God Awful Movies - 270: The Exorcism of Emily Rose

Episode Date: October 20, 2020

This week, Michael Marshall joins us for a skeptical review of The Exorcism of Emily Rose, the true story of a Catholic Priest murdering a young girl for being mentally ill and then not getting punished for it. --- If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/?fref=ts All our other music was written and performed by Morgan Clarke. To hear more from him, check him out here: https://www.morganclarkemusic.com/ --- Check out more from Marsh on Be Reasonable and Skeptics with a K

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This one got sad. Yeah, this is depressing. This right, this, this ruined my spectacular. I really did, man. Oh, we'll get there. But also joining us today, I'm sitting one pond to my east is my neutral friend, Michael Marshall, host of B. Regional Book, host of of skeptics with a K editor of skeptic magazine and project director for the good thinking society.

Marsh, welcome back. Thank you. This film is in the top 100 scariest films of all time by several different ratings. And I think they're right before the wrong reasons. Yeah. Definitely. The fact that it's on that list is actually among the scariest 100 things that I know. Yeah. It's, it's our jump scorers were at the wrong

times. They were on radio delays. Right. Everyone else is like, oh, that clock moved and we're like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, right, right. Yeah, exactly. Who greenlit this shit? Yeah. During the credits. All right, so let's make it official there. Tell us, Marsh, what will we be breaking down today? So we watched the exorcism of Emily Rose and it's the true story of a teenager in real life. She was called Annalise Michel, whose epilepsy and schizophrenia caused her strict Catholic parents to think that she was possessed by demons,

so they had a priest take her off a medication, subjected to 67 separate exorcisms, and ultimately starve her to death. And that story alone would make this a horror film, but instead the guys who made this film went with, but what if she actually was possessed so they could make her kill us the good guys. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly. It's, it's, it's, it's a horror movie from the monster's perspective, but they don't know that. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, so and, and Eli, how negligently homicide always does. Let's say, well, if you love based on a true story horror movies, but your Andrea Yates screenplay just hasn't gotten accepted yet. You will love

this movie. Yeah. I mean, if this movie didn't kill off any skits or frenix, it's because it didn't find a wider audience. Right. Oh, and I was reading into this film because it's directed by the guy, it's written and directed by the guy who directed Doctor Strange, the Marvel films. This is a proper studio stuff. And it was call written by him and a guy who was a skeptic because the guy who wrote this who directed it is a believer, but he had that sort of balance I've have a skeptic and a believer right it so they can have some balance and ambiguity

is what really was happening. But then he directed it as the believer and took all the ambiguity out and made it. Yeah. That's all right. Demons is real. Oh, God. Right. Right. Absolutely. Okay. So is there anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best of being the worst at?

Yeah. I mean, I just have to say, best worst based on a true story. Yeah. Previously, you guys had me on this show to talk about the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Jesus message. But this is, we tortured a mentally ill girl to death because we believe in magic and we are the good guys. That's this story. Yeah. Oh, man, this was a tough one. So I was gonna go with best worst title, right?

Because like building on what Mars was saying, the idea of this movie is that they wanted to present this situation and say like, was it demonic possession or was it mental illness? But the title of the movie is, it was totally possession though, right? Like the name of the movie should be the negligent homicide of Emily Rosenfurt be an honest about it. But, or the tragic death of or something like that, if we're trying to hedge our bets,

but the exorcism of kind of tips your hand. By the way, even according to their own story, as we'll get to, they don't think they exercise there. They threw their eye and failed. That's their version. The repeated attempted exorcisms. The botched exorcism of the box. The box. The box. The college try. And of course, I'm going to go with best, best, best, worst lawyer. Oh, okay. Not only is she a bad lawyer in terms of like representing her case and getting her

client acquitted, she's just terrible at humaning throughout this movie. We've watched a courtroom drama that turned out to be hell for a bunch of people who had had or participated in abortions. And this lawyer was bad by comparison. Yes. And by the way, as we go through this movie, there's a lot of people that are probably going to wonder why we didn't have Andrew Torres, our awesome lawyer friend, casting on this episode. You'll find out the answer to that next week. I don't want to spill the beans, but you'll find out why next week.

Anyway, is it because you like him? Is it because you like him? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No way. Let me ask Andrew what I should say on that about a legal experience. And while I do that, we've got plenty of symptoms of mental illness

to demonize on the other side of the break. So we're gonna keep it brief. And when we come back, we'll dive into all the negligent homicide that he is, the exorcism of Emily Rose. And then we make the glue look like cocaine. Now I'm telling you, if we just hold him down while I pluck him, it's gonna be way less trouble. Hey, guys, when you die a gram in there. Oh, no, perfect. I'm telling you if we just hold him down while I pluck him is it's gonna be way less trouble. Hey guys

What do you when you die a gram in there? Oh? No, I'm perfect. We're trying to figure out how to deal with he snows and ear hair Do you think we should tackle him and pluck or should we trick him into doing a line of glue and then pull? Hmm. Well, that's tricky. Why don't you just get him the new weed whack or nose and ear hair trimmer from man's gate? Oh, what's that? I mean, it's pretty obviously a nose near him trim out. Shut up, Mars. You don't you just get them the new weed whacker knows an ear hair trimmer from Manscaped. Oh, uh, what's that? I mean, it's pretty obviously a nose and ear hem trimmer. Shout out, Mars. You don't know. You don't know. Manscaped is forever changing the grooming game with the weed whacker. This knows an ear hair trimmer provides proprietary skin safe technology, which helps prevent nicks, snags, and tugs in those delicate holes. The premium Manscaped weed whacker uses a 9,000 RPM motor

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I'm telling you that it wasn't really a planned thing. You know, I just, a text of Kyle, do you want to go to Grammolities? Well, next time text be too. I want to go to Grammolities. Well, but I will. Gentlemen, gentlemen, if I may, I want to call this meeting of the men who are still somehow inexplicably screenwriters

to order. First up, Kevin, how are those 19 scripts that you're simultaneously writing based on the idea that we only use 10% of our brain coming along? Oh, yeah, no, really great. I've got one with a magic pill, one with a super genius baby, and there's one where Scully Hanson gets telekinesis. A fantastic use of time and money. Yeah, thank you. All right, so on to new business time for another one of these based on a true story horror movies, but you know, since ghosts aren't real, we're going to need to tell the story

of someone who's either lying or mentally ill or both. Or both. Right. Yes, yeah, we can also do both. So gentlemen, let me hear your worst ideas. Okay, what about my neighbor? So she actually thinks her house is haunted since her husband died and she's really sad and lonely and it's obvious that this is super upsetting her. So. Hmm. Okay. It's good, but let's see how it plays out. If she dies, I'm in.

Ooh, all right. Ooh. I'm speaking of dying. What about the story of Annelise Michelle? That's the German teenager who is tortured to death by her family and her priest for her mental illness and none have ever faced any real consequences. Yeah, yeah, that's how we could like make a movie about history. Oh, so like about how terrifying it must have been to have a mental illness that everyone around you kept confirming was real?

Uh, I mean, I was thinking more like, what if she was Philip Edimonds? Okay, all right, sorry, you want to make a movie about the tragic story of a schizophrenic teenager whose parents literally starved and beat her to death. And your take is that maybe they were right to do that. Yes.

Well, I can't think of a story more evil than that. Let's do it. Yes, pretty nice. Oh, wait, I actually got a worse one. You do, really? John B I've got a worse one. You do really? John Bene, absolutely not. No, see this is why we don't invite lunch. And we're back for the breakdown and we're going to open up on some screams and some

panting and the words based on a true story. Supposed to the scariest and least scary horror movie of all time will get there. Right? Yeah. I mean, my notes originally said at this point, all this going to be like generic unsol-horror film. And I went back over those notes, midway through the film to write that the screens here, the opening sequence was actually the least exploitative part of the entire film. Yeah.

The opening seconds are the best it gets. Yeah. So we've got, we're opening on this medical examiner showing up to this creepy old farmhouse filled with wasps and cats. And yeah, we see this, this massive abandoned field of pumpkins, which is, you know, welcome to Halloween 2020. Yeah, by the way, we spend a solid minute, I'm glad you mentioned the bees know up because we spend a solid minute. I'm glad you mentioned the bees know up because we spend a solid minute of him staring at them

and I was like, oh, later in the movie, she's gonna spit some bees or shit up. Nope, nope, nope, just spooking it, having some bees around that. Right, so like this movie constantly does that, though, that's it, because it's, you know, quote unquote, based on a true story,

nothing ever fucking happens, right? So, because it's, you know, quote unquote, based on a true story, nothing ever fucking happens, right? So it constantly has to tease you like, oh, that's like the setup for a horror movie scene, huh? Right, bees, bees, anyway, and other thing. We just have a 19 year old who was mentally ill. So it's hard to pop scare with that. Whoa, two times in this opening scene, right? So we get the bees that don't add up to anything.

And then like he looks over at somebody's creepily looking at him out the window, but then she just opens the window and she's like, are you the medical, you're the medical, who say, I'll come down. Let me come down. Right? And the thing is, it's the priest up in the window. And you know, whenever you see a priest sort of peering through uppercut and so a bedroom room, like suspiciously like that, that's never a good sign.

I've been thinking of something happening. Okay. Yeah, I didn't realize it was that was the priest out of his creepy. Okay. All right. Yeah. And the priest is Tom Wilkinson. Yeah. It's a little bit linear. It's a proper cast. Yeah. It's sad. This wasn't even shot somewhere fun. They have no excuse. No. Well, we were saying before the record like if this was one of those weird ass movies where you've got to like log into some special site And you can't get there through those like fancy regular web browsers You know then fine right like if this is something seven people did on a fucking iPhone then fine You know we would watch this and we'd make fun of it and it wouldn't be terrifying

But this was a major motion picture with like a director that went on to direct other movies and actors you've heard of Oh, yeah, although I will say the movie does kill its own mood here because as it's panning over the creepy farm, there are two morbidly obese cats. Oh, it's a little chockers. Chockers, you fucking kill the mood. Is this like, oh, damnable things have happened in that. Yeah, right. So, all right. But this is the medical examiner.

He's showing up where this person has died. And so we get like the creepy him walking past the grieving family thing, all in slow motion. Oh, God. He's walking so slow. And I get that they're trying to make it slow. So it's all stillness and atmospheric. But he's walking so slow. It's just obscene. Like my sister has cerebral palsy and genuinely she be yelling at him to keep up. That's how he walking.

Yeah. So we saw he goes into the death room where the cops are. And he comes out and he's like, okay, yeah, sorry. This is not one of the legal ways that people die. We do arrest somebody at least. As I was watching, I wrote in my notes, again, as a joke, I want the medical examiner to come back in and be like, so you guys murdered your daughter, huh? And he basically does that. Yeah.

Like, boom. The only reason he doesn't say that is because he doesn't finish the sentence where he's saying that basically is that the daughter, she, and then they just stop. It as like, yeah, because the only end to that sentence is she's dead and it's your fault, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And the cops have to awkwardly arrest the priest. The cops are like, Hey, father, can we speak to you real quick? You are, oh, I hate to be this guy. You're under arrest for the murdering. You know the murder you did just out just earlier today. It's apparently that's not a warning. I asked I rodeoed back and said, can I give him a verbal warning? But it's almost the holidays and that's it.

I quote us. Yeah. All right. So, so then we cut. So he's under arrest. The press is all crowded and father more shit on the way into the jail or the courthouse or some damn thing. Wanted to know why he killed that teenage girl, right?

Yeah. And we got a classic thing with the reporters where they shout out just little fragments enough to make the plot that took come together. So the reports are shouting, father, tell us about the exorcism, which just might as well be like, father, could you just throw us a little chunk of plot just so we can get a game moving here? So yeah, so we get that scene and then we get all the lawyers that are going to prosecute them and they're sitting around this table like talking about like, oh, this is going to be tricky. He obviously murdered her, but he's religious. So do laws count. Oh, it's going to be tough. This is tricky. And that's true. That's true. I don't know if you know

this much, but that is how it works here. It was 10.0 to count if you're religious. Yeah. That becomes pretty obvious throughout this film as well. And I also love the bit where they're saying about the prosecutor they're going to pick. It's like, we need a Christian on this and preferably a Catholic. And I wrote, yeah, that's a view shared by the Federalist Society. So consistency across America. And they'll think, hang on, no, this can't be the Federalist Society because there's two people of color here and one of them is a woman.

So, yeah, this is actually them. Right. Yeah. And the other one seems to be in charge. So, damn, but not the Federalist Society. Yeah. So, yeah, but they need to find themselves a good Christian prosecutor. Then meanwhile, we cut to this bar where Laurelini is hard at work, loyering even at the bar, right? I love the way they introduce her character. Her boss comes over and he's like, this is Laura Linny. I know what you're thinking. A lady lawyer, but don't worry.

She's also an alcoholic. I promise. This is a really small thing, but there's lots of people that drink in Martini's. None of them are eaten in the olives. I meant to leave the olives in martinis. Have I been doing it wrong? Is that?

You're asking the right people. Let me tell you, Marge. I'm all, but he knows that I properly consume alcohol. Where is he? When I'm in the act, right? That's the question. But I get judgey looks when I order nothing but olives. So see, I'm in the opposite end of this spectrum, Marge.

I get judgey looks when I order nothing but olives. So see, I'm in the opposite end of this spectrum, March. I get it. Oh, and there's this point as well, where she's talking to some of the other lawyers in there. And they say to her, have you seen the news about the priest? And I thought, you got to be way more specific than that. Right. Right. Things that priests have done that criminal defense lawyers

might want to hear. If he's still need to be more specific. You can name a magazine, things priests have done that criminal defense layers might hear about. One would argue we have a whole other podcast call. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so, but she's being called upon to defend the murder priest, right? Yeah. And what they describe as an exorcism gone bad, like there are lawyers out there who are going, well, I mean, if it was a routine exorcism, it'll be fine, but this was this is one that went bad.

Right. Yeah. So, yeah. So Aaron Brockavish, I don't know, I'm like, I got a lot of Lora Lennie in my notes. She goes to see Father More in the jailhouse, right? Oh, we should also point out by the way that like 33 times in this two minute period of the film, they dropped the name James Van Hopper. Oh, God, it's so weird because she's constantly saying about how she got James Van Hopper

off and how he was going to fry, but she got him exonerated and got him released. And then she goes to see the the the priest now and she mentioned James Van Hopper. I said, why are you dropping that name quite often like, yeah, like we get it. You knew James Van Hopper. Like where is he that important? Where's his movie? Can we watch his movie instead? We find out he's a murderer.

I'd rather be watching that film. It's the guy who makes his murderer. Well, something happened in that one at least, yeah. Right, so yeah, so she goes to see the, the priest is like, I don't know if you heard me. I defended James Van Hopper. And he's like, oh, well, you know, we just spent two minutes of movie introducing

that that's a big fucking deal. So yeah, I was sad, no, who that is. And so he asks, he's like, hey, you know, we just spent two minutes of movie introducing that that's a big fucking deal. So yeah, I'm just sad to know who that is. And so he asked, he's like, Hey, are you Catholic by any chance? She says, I'm, I'm agnostic. I think. And I'm like, you nailed it. You did it. And so we have to have the like, the scene where she sells herself to him as the lawyer.

You know, he doesn't want her at first, so she has to convince him to take her help. Yeah, she tells, tells him how hard the DA is on priests. Oh, and there's a line as well. He says, you know, the DA is office doesn't like it when religion hold itself above the law. And it's like, I've got some bad news for you movie from 2005. I've got to tell you. It's hard to find a statement less true than the DA's office doesn't like it when religion holds itself above the law. You have to get into metaphysics for some untrue shit. Yeah.

No, shit. And he tells her, he's like, hey, look, you know, what I want most is to make sure that other children die of stupidity towards her in the future. So I don't care if I get exonerated for this. I just want to tell the story and muddy the waters about whether mental illness is sometimes possession. That's what matters to me as a priest. Yeah, I want to tell my crazy story.

And Laura Linney's like, I mean, did you murder her in your crazy story? Cause no. Right, not tell your crazy story. It ends with you murdering her. Yeah. And then, okay, so I love this. We're going to cut over to a quick scene where Laura Linny is meeting with Emily Rosa's

mom. But to introduce the scene, we get just a random desperate pop scare from a cat. All right. It's just like, oh, horror movie, horror movie. See? See? See? See? Still a horror movie. See, see, see, it's still a horror movie. Oh God, this cat. I mean, so it turns out that like they've got lots of cats. I mean, that's a fact that Laurelini establishes by saying a lot of cats live here, which is a really fucking weird way of expressing that sentiment to be in with.

But the cat that's there that does the popscare here is the single biggest mammal I have ever seen in my life. Like they say she's got 11 cats and I think this cat is at least six of them. There's there's no question someone brought their cat from home and no one had the heart to be like, Hey, Dave, your cat's morbidly fucking obese. Yeah, and the way that they established that there's 11 cats here's they have cats just crying in the background of every scene So yeah, she's talking to the mom and the mom's like you know I'm sure our ways seem very strange to you and Lorelyn is like that's not like an idiosyncratic thing though

Like that wouldn't matter who you were talking to when you said that you're you're just fucking weird It was actually quite difficult to even see the mom because everything in the house was like a brownie gray, including her, including her hair. Yeah. Her cats, everything just blended into one color palette. It was like a magic eye or something. I just thought it was sweet to make it. It looked through the movie. Yeah. You gotta cross your eyes and walk backwards. You can see the film. So yeah. So, but the mom explains that before them, ivory tower, elitist liberals at college got a hold of her Emily Rose was a happy girl. Right. Yup. Yeah, it's like the saying that she called demon at the university called demon.

Well, or mental illness, she caught one of those at college. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. All right. So and that leads, of course, to mom reminiscing us into a doodly do about when Emily got into college. Yeah. It's like a flashback to when the house also included orange. So it was a brighter time in their lives. Yes. Oh, she gets the letter and mom takes it and she's like, I'm going to show this to your father. I mean, it doesn't have pictures, but he'll get it. I'll tell you. All right.

So now it's time for us to meet Ethan Thomas, the evil Christian prosecutor who I have down from this point on as just protagonist. Okay. There's a really small thing just before we meet him as well, because like the, the interest that's seeing with like a newspaper report freeze frame. Like you've been kind of flash up on screen. Obviously, when you see that, the first thing you do is pause to just make out what they've put in the newspaper because it's always really funny to see like a newspaper props. They always read like they've been written by a prop team who've never, who've like basically only

ever had a newspaper described to them. Right. Yeah. It's all to produce that. But one of the lines in the newspaper report, it's my favorite line of it. It says, an exorcism was performed, but failed to have any lasting effect. I mean, bearing in mind she died. I'd come out and do it. Amazing. Oh, I'm so, yeah. So this is the lawyer's meeting beforehand.

And the prosecutor comes up and says, Hey, look, Christianity's above the law. We don't pretend otherwise. We'll give him six months. We'll give him less time than Noah would get for an ounce of weed, basically. Right, right. But no deal. He wants it to go to trial because he wants to like tell her story on the stand. Yeah.

And she's trying to persuade him to let him off basically because she's sort of saying, isn't she says, isn't forgiveness and compassion part of your creed? And she's arguing that a prosecutor should be lenient on account of negligent homicide because he's religious. That's the argument she's funny for. Yeah. But it was religious negligent homicide, right? And the prosecutor's great here.

He's just like, no, not that kind of Christian. I understand why you'd be confused. I'm one of the law abiding ones. Well, and it's great, because when she turns down the deal and she says, nope, it's going to drop. He does a giant fist pump in her way. That's never a good sign when you're a defense one. No, no, bring your guy. I want to hear his story. I'm sure it's going to go great. Oh, and it does a lovely bit as well, because she says like he was never neglectful. And the prosecutor says, never neglectful. Have you seen the postmortem photographs?

And she hasn't, she took his word for it because she's such a good defense attorney. He's like, I'm sure he's probably right. He said he's not really didn't do it. So it's fine. It's fine. Yeah yeah I don't see how those photos are relevant to the case so okay so now she's she's lawyering late into the night and we know that because her notes are on yellow paper that's lawyer paper I really wanted it to ban over her notebooks and the only note she has as demons equal real question. But what she does have is she's got two post it notes that are right next to each other. Yeah, that both say the same thing. Yeah, Dr. Briggs Medical Dairy Psychiatry John Hopkins.

Same thing. But right. All right. But then we get it. She goes to bed and we zoom in on her watch, eerily stopping it exactly 3 a.m. Because this movie has fucking nothing. Okay, nothing.

So we're in, we're in a court now for, for their opening statements. See, Andrew, I said opening statements. Whatever, there are things called law-dawful movies. Come at us. All right, so the protagonist starts off, right? And he's like, yeah, so, um so this is a girl that had a serious metal condition And then this guy tried to fix her with magic and she's dead. Do we need to do the whole Objection they all of that stuff with the hammer or what? Why?

Yeah, and I have to admit I was actually like moved I was having a real moment and then he pulls out the headshot of the actress who plays Emily Rose. And I was like, okay, good. Back out of the moment because he gives like a genuinely good speech about the horrible might. He does our job for five minutes. Yeah, right. But then he pulls out what is very clearly this actress is headshot.

And I'm like, okay. And we're back to comedy town. Thank you. Thank you. And he does do an excellent point. And he just makes a series of absolutely crushing points. He's brilliant. But he does at one point, to say, align in his opening statement, which is fantastic. He says, I represent the people. And I know that sounds a little abstract. So let me explain. I represent the people. That sounds a little abstract. So let me explain. I represent the people. He's that's exactly what I'm going to go on. One jurist just taking notes.

Oh, that's what that is. No, I ain't. So, and two, like, so he pulls out the picture right. He says, here's Emily Rose before, like, the exosystems and everything. And he's like, he pulls out this other picture. He says, and here she is right before the priest killed her. And she's like, all fucked up and her teeth are all broken and her eyes are all blacked out And she's obviously like been all the way fucked up

But I feel like the jury is going like oh, okay Well at this point he was just putting her out of her misery though, right? So he gets done he wraps up the judge turns to Laura Lennie and says so you want to do your opening statement She's like the past She's like the past. Past. Oh, yeah. She's got the, oh, fuck face. I'm sorry, you probably should have done a bit more than take the priest at that word on the whole demon thing.

Right. Yeah, exactly. A little added bonus content here about how evil this movie is, that photo that they show, it's a fake photo of the last photo of the true girl. It's based on which means they saw the last photo of a girl who was beaten to death by her priest and family and they were like, oh, we should make one of those. Yeah, right. Right. I also, I love this tiny little moment right after she says to the judge like, actually, I want to do my opening statement after the defense has already

done their presentation or whatever. And they're like, yeah, sure, it's a movie. You can do that. She turns to the priest and she says, don't worry, that was my plan all along. I meant to do that. I was just amazing. It's such a ridiculous thing for the lawyer to say to her client. Terrible. Don't worry. It's all part of my plan for them to just hear his side of things. Right. Yeah. Most of it. All right. So now the, the prosecutor is going to bring Edith to the stand. She's the family doctor. Yeah. And we, we learning in this scene that Laura Linnie can object like a mother fucker, right?

Yeah. I mean, so Edith is not only the family doctor. She's also Emily's pen pal. So that's, that's sweet. Weird. That's, I mean, it was right into her, her doctor when she went, when I went to college, like all good college kids do Yeah, what the family doctor so she says well

Yes, she wrote to me to tell me about this boy she met at a dance She didn't want to tell her mom because her mom didn't approve of dancing And I'm like, okay, well then you're automatically guilty of torturing your kid to death, right? Right. There's no question. That's it. You could have rested. You could have been like, yeah, prosecuted. All right. Well, they're anti-dancing. So can't be the good guys in a movie. Yeah. My closing statement is, do you think a lady

whose anti-dancing didn't beat her kid today? No. Yeah. I think she beat her kid today. She did. She did. Yeah. And then so we flash back. So like the doctor apparently, like also got

a call from her one time at the middle of the night down from a pay phone where she was freaking out and having like a mental breakdown or something. Literally a mental breakdown. She was actually having a literal breakdown. And this is, you know, people often say like what's the harm of religion? What's the harm of religion? And isn't this a perfect example of one of the unexpected harms of religion, right? Because as a doctor, if someone calls you and says, I'm chalk block full of demons, the DSM doesn't allow you to acknowledge religious phenomenon as part of it. So you have to be like, oh, fuck, you sure you're not chock full of lizards? Because if you're chock full of lizards,

I have a medication to put you on, right? Yeah. This real life girl was experiencing her first psychotic symptoms, but because we have an entire society built around pretending her particular psychosis is real, no one in her life could be like, oh, don't worry, that's definitely not real. Mm-hmm. Right, yeah. So this testimony doodly dues us back to her first No one in her life could be like, oh, don't worry, that's definitely not real. Right.

Yeah. So this testimony doodly do us back to her first, like psychotic episode, her first epileptic seizure, whatever it was, right? Because we never really drilled down as exactly what this is. So she wakes up in the middle of the night, three a.m. exactly. She walks out into the hallway. We get the pop scare wind closing the door, followed by the pop scare wind closing the door followed by the pop scare wind opening the door. I just fuck off guys. Come on. We know you got nothing. I mean, even if you have

good stuff, you can't do two pop scares in a row. We're already ready for it now. Right. But outside she found, you know, the inside of a schizophrenic's eyeballs, it's just so very clearly like a person having a seizure, but as imagined through a, you know, grind house horror movie director. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it could not be clear. Absolutely. And again, this is very obviously, as Marsh mentioned, like the skeptic was like, oh, maybe she could get like sunk into her bed and have a seizure and the idiot director was like, yeah, that spooky ghost stuff. And he was like, oh, maybe she could get like sunk into her bed and have a seizure. And the idiot director was like, yeah, that's spooky ghost stuff. And he was like, yeah, spooky ghost stuff. Or what happens to people when they have epilepsy and seizures? Right. Spooky ghost. Maybe it moves her pen cup. Oh, her haunted pencils. Yeah. She looked across and her pencils are haunted. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, right. Yeah. Cause there's no scientific explanation for our pencils falling over when you're having an epileptic seizure. Look, I might have been using every muscle in my body to spend my spine backwards, but I know those pencils were firmly in there. Yeah. And this is this is one of the first of many times I wrote my notes. This movie is going to take seriously a young woman's apocalyptic hallucinations as a way of blaming them for her own brutal death, isn't it? And I've got to do a comedy show about this. It's tough. What? All right.

So the best thing to do is power through Mars. Okay. So then we get a neurologist on the stand. So you know, bullshit, a leadist here. This is a person who examined her and is an expert and he's like, yeah, you know, at first we thought she just taken drugs because, you know, college kid that wasn't allowed to dance that day, they tend to do that. But no, no, it was, it was epilepsy. We checked. Right. We found exactly what you'd find if it was epilepsy.

And they were like, oh, okay. And then what happened? And he was like, oh, well, she, she stopped doing the medicine stuff and went with magic. And now we're here figuring out who murdered her. I know if you guys would like me to just wrap up for you. Yeah, right, Laurel. And he's like, objection. He's speculating in the judges like, under thing, he's an expert. That's why he's here. He's speculating on that.

But in fairness, he was speculating, because he cannot say it with 100% certainly it absolutely was epilepsy. And Ergo, a pre-tellinger to come off a med is absolutely fine. That is that is Laura Linney's objection here. Yeah. Are you certain it was epilepsy? Well, obviously not certain, because there's also something that well there we go, then demons. Right. Right.

No, her entire fucking cross examination was, well, wait a minute. Didn't she also do non-apileptic things? Well, yeah, I like, I, she, she wouldn't go groceries. That's not very epileptic at all. Listen, the defense rests. Wait, no, no, I, I, I, I, haven't done my opening yet. I forgot. I did a good job. All right. So we wrap up there and now we get Laura visiting father murderer and father antagonist in the jail again. Yeah. And he opens very strongly.

He's like, Hey, before we get started with a little wrap up of the day, you should know that we're both being attacked by demons and she's like, boo, not great, not great when someone says that, yeah. I mean, it's just, it's a series of not great things because he says, look, before we carry on, there's something I should have told you before I let you take the case, not a good thing to say, midway through the case as you don't do it.

He then follows up with, I believe in spooky ghosts, not much better than that. And then it's, and you're being attacked, oh god, this is a nightmare. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yet he says, there are dark power for forces surrounding this trial. And I want it to be like, Oh, God, this is a nightmare. He says there are dark powerful forces surrounding this trial. And I want it to be like, Oh, dude, we already know you work for the Catholic church. Don't worry about it. They hired me. Yeah. And he tells that, you know, demons exist,

whether you believe in them or not, which is a really stupid point because it's equally true to say of anything, you know, space palikens exist, whether you believe in the law, this is just a relative to the thing to see. Right, yeah, exactly. That was never a contingency. What's great is it's such a wonderful bastardization of skepticism, right? Because that, that, we've all heard like science works,

whether or not you believe in it, but that's not true of demons. Right. I will never be attacked by a demon. Yeah, no, right, right. By 100% certainty on that one. And Laura Linney's like, yeah, I'm, I'm bright, I'm being attacked by a demon. Yeah, no, right, right. 100% certainty on that one. And Laura Lynn, he's like, yeah, I'm, I'm bright. I'm being attacked by a demon.

Can we talk about law shit instead? And he's like, yeah, okay. He's, he's like, okay, what I need from you is a, like a good opening line that would lead us into another doodly do, preferably one that is chronologically next to the previous doodly do. Honestly, it frustrates me so much this one because he starts giving her Emily's medical history. And why is she the lawyer getting Emily's medical history from the delusional priest who killed her? This is not how it meant to work. And there's also, there's a lovely line that she tells them as well.

She says the prosecutor is using the medical aspects of this case as ammunition. So yeah, those medical aspects being you killed a girl who is suffering from various forms of mental illness. That's the medical aspects of this. Right. So it turns out they have reality on their side. So we're prepared to counter that. Good news is your religious. So we have a head start. And this reminded me so much of something from my own life. So way back when I was trying to be an actor and know what you can cut this if this isn't funny or not relevant to the movie. Way back when I was trying to be an actor, right?

I got cast in a TV pilot called the real Scooby Doo, right? And what they wanted is they wanted a skeptic and then like believers and a bunch of other people from all walks of life. And a dog. And a dog. Right. But then when they hired, they didn't actually want a real skeptic. They wanted someone who would be like, I've never seen a ghost.

There one is, I believe now. So I got fired on the very first day of shooting the pilot because they gathered us all together and they were like, so do you think there are any ghosts in the house? And I was like, they're absolutely aren't any ghosts in the house because nothing happens when you die. Imagine the consequences of us believing that ghosts were real or even possible. And then there was like a four minute pause

while I realized that was fired. And this is the lawyer version of that. Yep. This is the gut sentiment lunch and we're asked not to have crafty of lawyer. All right. So from there we flash back to Emily Insaning out of a window in a mental hospital somewhere. Yeah. So she's looking at the window and it's this lightning going on and she sees a demon

face in the lightning and falls into a seizure because the lightning is flashing lights and she's epileptic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Makes a lot of fucking sense. But of course, again, that's something that the skeptic put into the movie, right? It's like, yeah, right? Because that would be a trigger for that. But then the director's like, yeah, but I bet if I put a demon face on it, then people would think it was because of the demon face. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so now we've got Laura Linnie interviewing Emily's boyfriend, and he's gonna talk us to another doodly-do.

This will be the first time we see her just go off completely, like, all the way crazy, I guess, I don't know. Yeah, this is the one where she runs into the church. And like, here's the thing, the rules of your own thing are that demons can't get you in your magic house, right? That should have been the clue to Emily that the thing you're seeing is not real, right? If your kryptonite doesn't work on Superman, he's not fucking Superman, Emily. Go, or it's not kryptonite.

Yeah, one or the other. Yeah, right. Take your medication. Also, so I just want to point out the laziness of this goddamn sequence, right? Because we just keep the keeps giving us the same goddamn pop scare over and over again. Jennifer Carpenter, the actor is really good at the screaming things like that. I get why they wanted to have her do that a lot, but it's just the same fucking average. She looks at somebody's face and they're all monster. Ah, oh, that person also all monster.

Ah, just over and over again, like 11 times. Yeah, yeah, it gets so boring. It's like there's a couple in the rain. Oh, yeah, they've got the Edvardmann's screen face. She gets dipped in the, I actually wrote my notes. Oh, there's two old ladies in the front, pew, the chapel there. I wonder if when she gets to them,

their faces will change to evil. And there it is. Their faces change to evil. Right. See, I really wanted one guy not to turn evil like the couple monk faces, old ladies, monk faces, turns to a janitor. He's just like, hello, and she's like, okay, I guess the demon's face, that's the demon's face. I'm an easy, demon's eye, demons can't get him. So as, but as she's walking around seeing all these monsters, her boyfriend sees her, right, and follows her into this church. And when he comes in, she's like all bent over backwards. Like she's dodging demonic matrix bullets for something.

Yeah. And the boyfriend has such a weird reaction to this, right? He's like, yeah, no, she's dodging Matrix bullets, but I'm a Christian now. Yeah. Yeah. He says, I never knew how dead I was until I met her, which is such a way of lying. And also such a self-centred way to talk about your dead ex-girlfriend. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Yeah. You could stick to talking about her. She's the one who died wherever her murder trial. I don't give you wrong. I'm really excited about your religious journey in college, but I don't know. I'm only for the moment. All right.

So so so Laura Linney's in a bar again, because she's a lawyer. And and this is when she hears other news that James Van Hopper, the murderer has struck again. Damn. She really needed to give that guy a more severe outro interview. Didn't she? And what did we say? More murdering. No, I said no more. No, no. It's such a weird thing for the film to do at this point because early in the film, she's talking to these older lawyers who were like, we were gonna fry him until you'd convince us not to. So like, they were the good guys,

and she's the bad guy now. Like what are you doing? Yeah, right. What's the point in this movie? Right, exactly. So yeah, so but she goes to the bathroom, she's like, oh, what am I doing with my life? I'm helping the murderers,

and then a lady walks out of the bathroom stall. Popscar! It's the best! It's just like a lady walks out of the bathroom. She might as well turn to her and be like, was that just a pop walks out of the bathroom. She might as well turn to her and be like, was that just a pop scare in the movie? I was taking a shit Me being done taking a shit is a pop

The bummer your movie sucks. So yeah, well right so then the movie starts desperately going around looking for something demonic to happen again Right, so it's like middle of the night. It's 3 a.m. Because you know demons yet 3.m the movie starts desperately going around looking for something demonic to happen again, right? So it's like middle of the night. It's 3 a.m. Because you know demons. Yep. 3 a.m. So it's time for another visit from the Gulf of criminal negligence past.

Yeah. So like she wakes up at 3 a.m. And she starts walking around looking for a pop scare. You know, but the pop scare here is, I can smell burning, but it's really hard to silently act. I can smell burning in a spooky way. It doesn't come across intimidating. No, it comes across just like a,

a bug's bunny falling for the trap. Yeah. It's definitely the where has my cat pooped. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Performance. Oh God, go and say that I've had a lot of problems with my new cat and that is a very triggering sentence for you. This house has secret shits all over the place and I've not found them all yet.

So yeah, but then eventually like her door blows open because they had to do something to end this fucking scene. And then a glass breaks, she breaks a glass. Oh, scary. But she breaks the glass because the, scary, but she breaks the glass because the door opens and she forgets how countertops work and drops the glass straight onto the floor.

At least it's not scary. You just dropped a glass. It's so fucking stupid. And like this soundtrack seems embarrassed to have gotten so worked up over this, right? It's just, the soundtrack keeps swelling, strings going like, oh, is she going back to bed? Are you sure nothing is something creepy gonna happen while she's in the sound of the string going like, oh, is she going back to bed?

Are you sure nothing is something creepy going to happen while she's in the bed? No. Why am I even here? This movie couldn't have been sillier if we had just watched her clean up the glass. The three. Wow. I think it's she was barefoot and I thought, oh, she's going to cut her foot on the glass. That's why we've seen the glass smash onto the floor. Nope. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no,

no. The other thing is she shocked because the kitchen clock has stopped as well, but it stopped eight seconds to 3 a.m. not a 3 a.m. So I guess the demon kind of entered via the kitchen until it took eight seconds to get from there. Okay. All right. This movie really adds up when you think about it. You got to love that demon sitting in the kitchen. He accidentally stops the clock early. Oh, fuck, I'm going to get in trouble. Oh, I'm afraid he does that thing with digital clocks where you're trying to set it and you go one minute over where you want to get to. Yeah, right. It's close enough. It's close enough. Never mind. So meanwhile, so the movie is like, okay, so there was not a, I'm sure there was going to be a pop scare there.

What about with the priest? Is there a pop scare going on with the priest? Right. So we cut over to the jail where there are demons whispering at him, right? Which the movie is going to use as proof that he was in the right. But man accused of negligent homicide, his voices in his head is not the hero. That isn't the story. No, it might be a good insanity defense.

I don't know, but it's certainly not heroic, but he says magic words. So the angels come and like, fucking bully the demons away. Yeah. Really hoping we'd get a flash cut to that, right? Just Michael's showing up. Sorry, guys, he said the magic words. We gotta get him. He said the fuck stop whispering at him. Not that. Stop guys, guys. Guys. Guys. Guy and Chellik library in or something. Yeah, so. Alright, well, apparently this movie needs a minute to think of something creepy that could

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Yeah, you know, what is the point? What do you mean what's the point, we're gonna, like, we're gonna make her eat bugs and scratch people. Right, right. That sounds fun. Don't get me wrong, that sounds fun. But well, possessing her make everyone around her know that demons are real and thus, you know,

make them more religious. Yeah, it seems like it kind of sabotages the long term goal. What? No, no, no, no, it'll be like super spooky. Super spooky. Satan, can I speak honestly well of course? Are you sure you don't want to just grab a girl body so you can do show tunes? Yeah, like we've all heard you practicing I feel pretty the last couple of weeks But you guys heard that very much of the screams of damned yeah

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this is it. We know why it's in this one notes. She's like, could the demons keep turning off around? I'm clock at three o'clock. Yeah. Right. Yeah. All right. So now the prosecutor is going to bring on another one is bullshit experts, right? And he's going to explain how Emily Rose died, which is starving and then some. And by the way, the movie will not refute this. I kept waiting for them to be like, Oh, she didn't die from starvation. She died from the demon that burst out of her butthole. No, this movie will be like, I mean, she did starve to death. That is, we're not gonna refuse that one.

The closest it gets refuting it is saying the demon made her starve to death by putting her off a food and refusing to let her eat, but yeah, you still, you starve to the death, you starve to death, this girl to death, this is the truth of this story. Well, and we should be clear by about how much this movie diverges from its source material. So it's way, way off from the source material, obviously, but in this movie, it may have been a fucking demon. But also, like, I want to be clear on this one. In the real story, the priest starverted it.

The fasting was part of the exorcism. The movie had to take that out because they're like, there's no fucking way we can pretend he's the good guy then. But just so so we're clear in the real story, the fucking priest also starved her. It wasn't that she was unable to eat. No, it wasn't. And by the way, the doctor refutes this because we live in reality. They were like, well, what would you have done, doctor? And he was like, well, I would have used medicine to make sure she got enough nutrition so she didn't die. And everyone in the courtroom is like, oh, fuck, you can do that. Can't you? But the movie won't he? He mentions electro shock therapy. And the movie wants them to be like, shock therapy. Which is stupid because no, he fucking wouldn't

have. He would have forced better. And that's like, you know, that's what he says. Like, so the prosecutor is like, so what you're saying is she could have been both epilepsy again, psychotic. And he's like, well, that's more fucking likely than possessed by a goddamn demon, isn't it? And everyone's like, yeah, that's true. There is a really sneaky thing the film does here as well.

Because they talk about, I think it's like epileptic psychosis or something like that is a term specifically they use, which isn't itself a name for diagnosis, which they pick up on later and say, well, that's not even a real diagnosis. It's like, right, no, she was epileptic and psychotic. He's put the two things together. Why would this film have to have the medical doctor inventor name the diagnosis rather than just give her two separate diagnoses? It's so we can say, well, you see, he's made, can stuff up. Right. Because we also have Lauren and the lawyer playing the same can't you did earlier, which is, can you be 100% sure she would have got better? No,

I'm like 99% sure that if you'd have fed her, she wouldn't have starved her death. But I guess I can't be 100% sure of that. You're the defense rest. Yeah. Right. I win. Yeah. You're the defense rest. Yeah, right. Right, win. Yeah. Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, please turn the boom box off, Councillor. Sorry, I'm sorry. All right.

And just one other thing about the ECT, she asked them about the ECT and she sweeps to their jury like, huh? He would electrocute her. That's not good, but like, they put you to sleep for electro shock therapy now. It's not a thing. You just wake up with way less mental illness than you went to sleep with a lot of the time. Look, regardless, she's dead.

She's dead. Exactly. Right, so that's the alternative. Yeah, it's like, per- For fuck's sake. They're making out the doctor's a bad guy because he'd give an ECT against her will, rather than the good guy who's the priest who killed

her by telling her she was possessed and shouldn't take her meds and tortured her to death like I'm sorry, but like this we should point out like that this woman's knees were broken Which when she died both knees were broken from like being on their knees constantly praying and shit So you gotta imagine that like That's at least as bad as even movie electroshock therapy, right? Yeah. Well, that's true if you believe that's how she broke a knees Noah, because we're going to see some pretty compelling evidence like to see another reason, another way she could

have broken it. Well, as though the movie is wants to say like see, there's a lot of different ways you could break knees. I just need to just get broke sometimes. You know, just say how it happened. Oh my God. Yeah. It is what it is. So the prosecution rests and Laura Lennie goes up to the antagonist, the priest and she

goes, Hey, I am super sorry. I was late this morning. He's like, no, it's cool. You were attacked by demons in the middle of the night, right? And she goes, I was, I know. And just on the prosecution resting at this point, like they started very pointedly, they started at 945 this morning because she was 45 minutes late or 15 minutes late, rather. They did what about to about 10 minutes of testimony and now they're recessed for the rest

of the day. Is that normal? For the rest of the day. Yeah, fuck off. You only want to do court and snack, snack size pieces. And by the way, when he says like, oh, you're under attacked by demons because they don't, I want to know if the forces of darkness are helping her opponent, the protagonist, like slipping fives into his pants pocket, given the back

rub while he sleeps with her. Yeah. So he leaves, she turns to her nameless assistant who I don't think we've met before, but we'll be a character from now on. And she says, man, we really need to find a doctor who will lie and say that this was demon magic and not epilepsy. He's like, yeah, it's going to be tricky. Oh, that upset me so much. She's like, yeah, if we can't find a doctor who will misdiagnose this dead girl, we're in trouble. Yeah. Then you're already in trouble, lady. Okay. So, all right. But now it's time to get some serious lawyer and done. She's broke out the yellow paper once more.

This time to study demonic possession. Yeah. And she says to her assistant, she's like, yeah, I've read lots of books about demons. None of them are true. Is that an issue? The demons don't ever turn out to be real. Well, and the assistance like, oh, look at this back when we believe the stuff we're trying to prove. We burned women at the stake for having cats. Meet, huh? She's like, okay, we could use that.

She did have cats. Had cats. Oh, God, there's a really uncomfortable line from the assistant as well. Where she says, you know, I'm reading this book about possession in the third world. He says, of course, people there are still primitive and superstitious. Oh my God. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Laurel and he's like, Hey, they could be superstitious or maybe demons love Somalia. But again, I just correct me if I'm wrong here. She decides that her position as a lawyer is to make a positive case for the existence of demons.

Yeah, no, the exact words is that she wants to validate possession. Yeah, which I mean, in fact, if you're gonna try and validate possession a call of law, you can do that because possession's nine tenths of the law. Ah, boom. Ah! Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Yeah, but she comes across this book and it's one of those dumbass fucking books that somebody on be reasonable told Marsh to read. Right? It's one of these anthropologists, but maybe there are demons kind of books. She's like, let's bring this idiot on. and they're like, yeah, okay. All right. She was like, well,

this annoyed me as well, because she says, you know, this person, you know, she approaches a subjective possession from a scientific perspective and doesn't try to debunk it. And it's like, right, yeah, and you can do that. But the point is, you know, I know people who do that, but the point is when you do that, the stuff debunks itself. When you protest scientifically and don't go looking to debunk it, but just go honestly into it, it debunks itself. If you're doing it correctly, yes, exactly because it doesn't exist, right? There's a moment where she's like, you know, she's like, okay, but what if possession

is real to the assistant and the assistant is like, yeah, but it's not though. It isn't. But yeah, but what if it was? Okay, we can make a movie I guess about it. Yeah, she's basically at the point where I said, well, it's not though. It isn't. But yeah, but what if it was? Okay, we could make a movie I guess about it. Yeah, she's basically at the point where I said, well, there's nothing in the rule book that says a lawyer can't blame demons. So I guess after.

All right, so, okay. So we're back in court. It's time for her belated opening statement. She says, hey, you know, it is not illegal to believe in demons. Still illegal to kill teenagers, though, shit. Oh, yeah. Not as good as I thought. I'm sorry. I have to point this out. She opens with her name. She's like, hello. My name is Aaron. Great lawyer. Fantastic. How are you today? You're a jury. At this point, I wrote in my notes, this is a brilliant strategy.

Get yourself disbarred and get your client a mistrial. It can't fail. And she, she argues that you don't have to believe that demons exist to believe that people are correct when they think demons exist. Yeah, wait, what? She's trying to riff for him off a murder charge. You know, the victim of that. Yeah, yeah, silly belief. She wasn't starving to death. Yeah, wait, what? She's trying to riff for him off a murder challenge. You know, the victim of that existence, silly belief, she wasn't starving to death.

Yeah, exactly. Well, and then she presents the argument that like, hey, medicine hadn't worked yet. So fuck it, medicine had its chance, reality had its chance to fix her. Like keep in mind, the argument that she's using would validate any type of quack medicine ever imagined, right? Because she said, well, it's what they believed.

And that's, it's not illegal to believe that, hey, it's not illegal to believe that there's a demon inside a marsh. It's illegal for me to stab the fucking thing out. Yes. Jesus Christ. So we're doing a series of doodly dues. And we just keep coming back to different people, different ones of her witnesses that are telling the story,

starting with the boyfriend. I love this, this is telling the story about how they were just completely platonically fully dressed, sleeping together at college, when she had a, I'm taking a seizure. Like, this isn't even a true part of the story, guys. You can, they can just be fun. Friends, no goals.

Yeah, and so she has this seizure. He takes her back home, right, from the college. And then we have dad on the stand talking about how like all the doctors came in and all the King's horses and all the King's men, no good didn't do anything. Yeah, and it's got this whole bit where he's talking about the time that she was eating spiders and cockroaches and like those are real things that happened with the real victim, and Lee's Michelle, but there are signs that she needed a doctor and not a priest. Those are really clear signs of that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so and I think that is such a telling moment,

right? They have the dad on the stand and he's like, you know, we had tried Medicine and it wasn't making her any better. So we called the priest and I'm like, huh It's almost like having an alternative to real truth is just bad from the get go right right like this is inevitable This is fucking inevitable because first of all, you know, this all happened in the 70s or wherever this happened You know the in the 70s or wherever this happened, you know, the pharmacological possibilities for a psychiatrist weren't as good as they are now, and even now they're far from fucking perfect. So, yeah, sometimes the shit doesn't work. Sometimes like the first medicine doesn't do everything

that you wanted to do, or has side effects that you weren't expecting. Like, this is how that kind of shit works, and how it's to work, but when you've got somebody off in the back, standing there going like, all right, anytime you want to give up on that, I'm ready with my fucking anti-demon stick over here.

That's inevitably going to lead to people not getting the treatment they need. Right, yeah. Especially when they're in direct competition, right? Yeah. Because one of those has to be like, oh, no, that thing isn't real. So when you switch over to anti-demon sticks,

you have to admit that demons are real and that causes a problem for further medical treatment. Right. Especially when the priest is very specifically telling you that the medication you're taking is preventing the exorcism from working as well. Well, it was just an argument that they make in this. Yeah, it's unbuckenable.

But oh, and of course during this flashback, this is where we see the knee abuse that Mars was discussing. Yeah, where she's throwing herself down onto her knees. And that explains why her knees were so fucked. And the thing to bear in mind as well, the film deviates from reality on another key point here. In reality, the parents were also on trial.

So this would have in testimony from one of the accused saying, no, we didn't break her knee. She broke her own knees. You can believe that. Right. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right.

You can watch this film and think, oh, scary demonic possession. Spooky. She's eaten insects. She's thrown herself around. She's moving in weirdly demonic ways. Or you can watch it and realize this is the actual exploitation of a genuine real life story of a seriously ill girl who died as a result of the treatment she was getting. This is where the film becomes a horror film where you're like, oh fuck, they are misusing the source material vis-visiously.

Right. Yeah, you know what else looks spooky? Someone having a heart attack. You put strings behind that. It also looks like demonic possession. It doesn't mean you shouldn't give them an aspirin in some of those paddles. Right. Well, yes. And this is the part of the flashback where the priest shows up and starts talking to her in Latin and she talks back in demon voice. So obviously totally possessed.

And so the flashback gets. Yeah. So like he's talking with Latin. She's shouting back in Latin. I was like, how does she do that? I mean, either this flashback and it didn't happen or she was Catholic in the 1970s when masses were still conducting in Latin. Right. Or she was possessed by a demon. And guess which fucking one the film makes it out to be a symptom of? Yeah, right. Right.

Yeah. In keeping in mind also that she would have gone to Catholic schools where you had to learn Latin as it was required. Of course. Yeah. Exactly. So yeah. But so the flashback wraps up and we get back to our protagonist who crossed examines and he goes like, so father So, yeah, but so the flashback wraps up and we get back to our protagonist who crossed examines and he goes like, so father of the deceased or you are religious nut and there's like, yep, sure him. Sure him. Gave the priest my daughter, just gave him to him. Yeah.

Yeah, he says, so you trusted him and he said, yeah, he's a Paris priest. And the prosecutor says fair enough. And you know, this is why it's a bad thing. That religion just gets a pass because a guy was just happened to be assigned to your town, gets an automatic default amount of your respect and trust. Yeah. Right. Especially since he was assigned there because he was raping kids in some other town.

Yeah. And he said, so the prosecutor's like, okay, so, um, here I get two books here. Once the Bible, the other is the DSM, which are you more familiar with? You're trying to assess things, right? Because he basically says the DSM, the demonic satanic man. Right, he says to the daddy, he's like, so now just objectively, taking your daughter out of it for a second,

would you say that bug eating is a non-psychotic thing to do? And the dad's like, well, shit, now that you mention it, and then, okay, so now it's time for us to hear from their pseudo-science anthropologist. Yeah. Right? The chick from the expanse that explains how it could be demons, though. Yeah. And this is where I would say this movie crosses the line from like,

Hey, this is really exploitive to use this sick girl story to like, dangerous to like, it shouldn't be able to buy it on iTunes level, dangerous, right? Because this woman's point is, Oh, let me explain. I can see you all think that she was sick. No, the medication made her worse. That's why the exorcism didn't work because it blocked her psychic powers, which is the reason she had demons in the first place. And thus the reason that she died. Yeah.

Right. The medicine killed her because it kept the priest from being able to get all the demons out. Yeah. She says like, well, I believe that Emily was a high presensitive, the kind of person that demons are really attracted to, you know, demons tend to have a very specific porn profile or whatever. And hey, to prosecutors slash protagonist's credit, he's like, uh, excuse me, could you

join me at the bench for a whisper fight? You're on her. Are you just going to let this lady do her be reasonable episode on the stand? This was so, so upsetting. You know, this whole thing about her being hypersensitive and was unusually connected to the separate reality. This is someone who's meant to be the expert who's claiming that some people just have visions of the future and can see the dead.

And the thing is, I know people who spent their lives and their research careers doing almost exactly the research she's meant to have been doing. And you know, scientifically evaluating reports of possessions and trying to understand what's going on there. And their take-home message isn't, but just I guess some people are more susceptible to demons than others. Right, yes. Something like that.

Yeah, right. Like, if you went around and studied this and found that, it's weird how these always seem to match the cultural expectations, your fucking takeaway couldn't possibly be, so it must be real demons only they're super regional. Yes, yeah, yeah. They seek out people who know the culture. Yeah, just like to get along with their own. You know, all I'm saying is it's perfectly reasonable

to preserve our culture and heritage. You know, the people have that attitude. You don't go outside your own is all I'm saying. It's perfectly reasonable. This is, be an other American shows rubbing off on you, Marcia. Okay. So, all right. So yeah, but the, but the prosecutor objects right in the middle of this testimony is like objection, your honor and the judges like, yeah, I get it. I got it, but you technically still have to state a grounds and he goes, just it's bullshit, right? Right. He goes, how about on the grounds of this is fucking silly. So she's like, yeah, it is come to the bench and let's have our little whisper fight. So they have a little

whisper fight. And ultimately the judge is just like, you know, we already did medicine. Let's also do bullshit, right? Okay. The judge is like, we've had a lot of experts say this wasn't magic. So it's only fair. It was magic. I was appointed by Mitch McConnell and I'll be here.

All right. So then we wrap up the courtroom scene. We get her sitting outside the courthouse when suddenly nameless assistant shows up with some good news. He did find a doctor with no morals that'll testify that this was genuine demon possession. It turns out as a matter of fact, this doctor was an eyewitness to the exorcism. Oh, and the movie wants us to think like, oh, this is their ace in the hole, but in a real legal case, it just be like, oh, cool. And another person who is guilty of negligence on the side.

Yes. Oh, I say so this medical expert is disqualified from offering his medical testimony then. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So he's like, yeah, he got in touch with us and he's willing to testify. So first, Laura Lynn, he's got to go and like, bitch out, father more for not telling

her about the doctor. And he's like, right, but I, we had a pinky swear. Yes. Yeah. And her response this is to look at him like, wow, you're so honorable father. I was like, no, I'm going to holding vital evidence in a fucking negligent homicide trial. Yeah. You want to go to jail?

Right. And then keep in mind again, like you guys say, this is a whole conspiracy. Like you're you're you're protecting a felon. This is a different crime you're committing. It's not honorable. Yeah. The thing is as well, like him withholding evidence. This isn't the only piece of evidence

he withhold. He has at least two further piece of evidence. He sprinkles throughout the trial. Oh God. Yeah. And just for the sake of like better timing for the story. Yeah. So okay. So he is. So we go to the park where Laura Lenny meets Dr. Cartwright, the doctor that assisted in the exercise. And so once again, the movie's like so desperate to have a pop scare like birds suddenly fly off and and the characters look at him like, Oh, does that mean a monster's coming? Is that a nothing? Nothing.

Okay, nothing. All right. Part of the horror movie. It's like the doctor looks at the pigeons like he's waiting for it to do the pops get it. He's trying to focus in a little bit to he's waiting for it to do the popscare. He's sort of trying to focus in a little bit to see if there's any hint of a popscare. No. Yeah, so the doctor explains like, you know, she was no skits of frenet. She was no epileptic. They do this bullshit thing where he says, no, no, she couldn't have had a mental illness because when she wasn't being all crazy,

she knew that sometimes she was all crazy. Yeah. What the fuck is that? Yeah, the movie literally self-summarizes by going, crazy people don't know they're crazy. Like that's a real medical fact. Yeah. What?

That's not how that works. That is not remotely how that works. No. Jesus, yeah, so but he explains all of this. He's like, I was there to help That's not how that works. That is not remotely how that works. No. Jesus. Yeah, so but he explains all of this. He's like, I was there to help. And I can tell you for sure that she had no mental illness, I am an expert.

And I'm like, those two statements can't be both true. And he says, and you'll testify to all of this in court. He says, yes, I promise not to get killed by monsters or kill myself before I can testify and trial Cross my heart. Hope the cross which is cross my heart just cross my heart. Here's a tape player. Yep. Here here have a plot device You'll need this to queue a doodly do later So okay, so she goes to the jail to tell Father Moore all the good news about Dr. Cartwright and how he's going to testify now. But he's pissed off, right? She's like,

hey, you know, I don't care about my own innocence or anything. I care about telling Emily's story and endangering more people with mental illnesses, right? It's in the fucking title of the movie. Yeah, he just like, I just need It's in the fucking title of the movie. Yeah, he just like, I just need to get on the stand and share the dangerous delusion that I validated. That'll solve everything. That'll fix everything for everyone. Trust me, don't get it.

Yeah. To which she responds, I found a locket with my initials outside. Well, yeah, okay. So. So he says, you know, he said she's like, yeah, you know, they the art style. He doesn't want you to testify and I, you know, but fuck it. Fuck it. They're just paying my bills to saw. And he says, oh, by the way, have you thought any more about the crazy, branding shit I was doing about you being attacked by demons? And

she's like, yeah, sure have. When you tell people that you're, they're being attacked by demons, they always think about it later. But that's because she's persuaded now, she's starting to be persuaded. And just like step back from this movie for one second, right? The priest meets a young mentally ill girl,

tells her to stop her meds, starve her, cause her death, and then persuades his lawyer to believe his delusions as well. But in any of the film, he is a dangerous psychopath. Right. He's like a Hannibal Lecter levels of psychic. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

Like, he needs to be locked up by the end of this. Right. The timeline of this movie, according to this movie, right, with the bullshit is that. Jesus dropped by a lock it with her initials on it to help her with the demon attacks during her court case. Yeah right so she tells him the story she's like yeah i've been thinking about what you said and at the other day i was out for a walk and i found this lock it that had my initials on it one of the the odds. And I'm like, well, they're not worse than one in 17,570 sex. And that's like, that would be if all the letters were evenly distributed. So it's not just, but enough so that no, the fuck it didn't, right? That didn't happen. Yeah. And it didn't happen. It did not happen in real life. This locket

is just a confection to try and force the point because the actual story is so bad. Right, right, exactly. Exactly. And this is actually, you know, one in 17,000 or no, it's still too much of a coincidence to actually happen because there is no God. So yeah. So she tells him like, she doesn't give a fuck what the Archdiocese says. If he wants to testify, you know, he can testify, even if he does make their bicarious,

cannibal death cult sound weird. And that after I say, Slana, I love as well, because he says, the archdiocese doesn't want you to testify. It's like, right. And you know, the clown union wasn't best pleased about that link to John Wayne Gacy. I like. All right. So, so then we cut to her and bed at 3 a.m. that night. Yeah, because it's always 3 a.m. somewhere. And this time, the demons have turned on the tape recorder.

Yeah, right. She wakes up to that. At first, she wakes up to all the screaming and everything. And I'm like, I get it. I listen to podcasts as I fall asleep. It's different. She also does the sit straight up in bed. Oh, yes.

You're particularly in rage. When this. All right. Well, obviously this movie needs some help. So we're going to take a break and see if we can find a good pop scare for it. But let me give a act three of the hard sell first. Will Laura Linnie get over all that annoying agnosticism?

Why didn't God springfront nicer lock it? Is this movie negligent homicide? Fight out the answers to these questions and more when we return for the despicable conclusion of the exorcism of Emily Rose. Alright, Mars, you're ready to do the ad for Quip? I guess so. Yep, she'll. I think it's going to be really great for people to hear about what a great product quip is, especially for you, you know?

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Okay, is everyone here? Yep. Yes, Lord Satan. Cool. Alright, so this is the house of the lawyer who's defending the priest who tried to stop our demon plan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I think it's time we made sure that no one stood in our way. Excellent. I want you to stop her watch at precisely 3 a.m. Okay.

And Nero, you are going to make a banging noise in the kitchen right afterwards. I'm going to make a banging noise in the kitchen. And while we do that, the watch and the banging thing, what are you going to be doing, Satan, Prince of Darkness? I will be catching up on justified. Come on, man. Seriously? Well, it doesn't stream for like three months

after the season airs, right? And we get terrible service and hell. This is the worst trip ever. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha this is the worst trip ever uh... and we're back for still more of this shit we're going to open up with father more finally able to take the stand in his own defense and i love this little bit we open this scene on him going like so help me god right as if to say c he was a priest he swore on a bible he couldn't be lying he had had not allowed. And they're going to establish something, which is really terrifying and should make up a major part of the movie that doesn't,

which is that he got permission to do an exorcism. Yeah. Right. And so to be clear, that happened in the real story as well, right? The murderers in the real story that murdered the girl with their murdering murder did get permission from their higher ups to do it, although they were told to keep it a secret. Yeah. And did they get the permission on Halloween when things are at the most spooky? Oh, was that an addition for the film? I know I didn't double check on that.

I'm assuming that's bullshit. Oh, there is a great line with that. She's like, so you did it on Halloween just a what? To be creepy and she's like, no, no, no, it's Halloween's magic. It's a magical time of the year. Also, he explains that he crammed for his fucking deny exam. Yeah.

We have a spell, but it's a whole bake thing. It was really, but I was up, well, I fell asleep with the book in my hand. And look, this, that's not a good thing. Right? I'm sorry. If I was going to have brain surgery tomorrow, and the surgeon said, I was up cram and for this all night, I'd be like, well, no, then. Nope.

Don't worry. Turns out you were cramming for no reason, friend. Also, as we saw, it was very much an open book exam in that he had the Bible that was in. Yeah. And spoilers for this magic spell, it's gonna be like, Jesus is cool. Yeah, right, right, exactly.

What were you cramming for? Well, there's a lot of contingencies, mostly it just went normal this time, but it's so much easier to go wrong. All right, so yeah, So we flash back to him Sitting straight up as you awaken set 3 a.m. And honestly like I know you have to do that aggressively But he goes so fast. He's very clearly obviously intentionally fucking with me Personally with this one. Yes. Yeah, it's a double fuck you know, within the space of like 10 minutes in the film,

we've had two of these. Yeah, right. But he wakes up in exactly 3 a.m., which is, you know, it's because it's this movie's thing. But then we get him on the stand explaining the significance. He's like, yeah, 3 a.m. is the witching hour. It's the demons way of just kind of sticking it to God, the son and the holy ghost.

Think you know the whole trinity thing we got. It's like the opposite, except sun and the holy ghost. Think the other whole Trinity thing we got. It's like the opposite, except it's the same thing. It's the opposite of when Jesus died. Like the demons get together and they're like, all right, he died at three. We'll do our stuff at three in the morning. God, it's like in the garden. Yeah, they say 3PM is the miracle hour,

which I've never heard anybody describe it. As I grew up, Catholic, we, they say 3 p.m. is the miracle hour, which yeah, I've never heard anybody describe it as I grew up Catholic We never talked about 3 p.m. being the miracle hour No, it's all think about 3m being the demonic witching hour like it is in folklore It is that but it's got nothing to do with the holy trinity It's about when in the in the book you were meant to be praying at certain times and there was a gap around 3 a.m I believe it was it's nothing like mocking the holy. Wow. So they even made that that's fucking hilarious. So yeah, so he's telling this story, but waking up at 3 a.m. he says, I smell something burning and I just want to point out that's this movie's language for he's about to have a psychotic episode.

Yeah, yeah. Whereas like famously, if you can smell burning, you're having a stroke. That's like the thing about smelling, but I have some exactly burning or you're right. Yeah, whereas like famously, if you can smell burning, you're having a stroke. That's like the thing about smelling, but I have some exactly burning or you're, right, yeah, this is one of the two. Whereas when he says all this to the lawyer, she starts doing the, it all adds up kind of face from the end, like at the end of usual suspects or something. Yeah.

So he's, so we get this little flashback of him walking around looking for his pop scare. He's out in the hallway and they start doing just weird fun house effects with the hallway as though that could be the pop scare and we're like, wait, are we supposed to believe that that's actually happening to the hallway? And then we're like, no, no, it's just, I, we were just never mind, never mind with the hallway.

Also, if you're a priest and a hallway starts to fill with scary demon shit, I get being surprised, but that's your whole jam, dude. All right, this is, if you're, this is getting challenged to a fight at TGI Fridays, if you spend every Saturday learning karate, right? Right. He doesn't do it. He's just like, oh, I should hope the angels are here too. You fucking suck, dude.

I say this genuinely from the bottom of my heart. If a demon appeared in my home this evening, I would be so much better prepared than anyone in any of the home right? I'm like, oh, okay, either I'm insane or this is real, but I know all the words they say. So, Jesus back flips and shit. I'm going to pull a sword from the air because nine out of ten times you can just do that shit. Yeah. Sword from the air. And the thing is, this is him telling Emily story.

His big I need to tell Emily story. Yeah. And the fact that it starts with, I keep working up in the middle of the night. It's not a good start. My granda has keep working up in the middle of the night is not a good My granda has to get up in the middle of the night. The problem is a Yeah, so and we back out of mid-duty do we back out of the story with the prosecutor, right? And he's going wait a minute Are you fucking telling me that you looked in a window and you saw the literal devil nodding at you from your neighbors? Fucking house. Is that what you're saying? looked in a window and you saw the literal devil nodding at you from your neighbors fucking

house. Is that what you're saying? To which Laura Litty replies objection. He's harassing my witness. Nope. I just said what he said. Yeah. I'm allowed to do that. Did you or did you not see a demon ghost in your neighbor's house? He's like, yes, that's totally so deep and ghost. He's like, how often do you see the demon ghost? He's like pretty much all the time. Like he's right behind you right now. And the prosecutor says, oh, no further questions. Yeah, no follow up on that.

There's literally nothing. So yeah, so now he, she pulls out the tape, right? She's like, and now antagonist of the film, can you play this tape of the extra system? And the protagonist, the prosecutor's like, hold on man, she didn't say she had a fucking tape. You can't do this. And she's like, yeah, no, my surprise witness

is totally based on this tape though. Yeah, and I'm not a judge, but your client failed to provide us with material evidence. He had in his possession from the 90 killed a mentally ill girl is not great for your case. No, like this is really bad for the prosecution. The tips emerge, but this is really bad for, for, for the defense. Well, especially because the thing on the tape is him killing a mentally ill girl.

Yep. So okay. But yeah, but that tape draws us back into the full blown exorcism doodly do so we're finally going to see the big exorcism scene. But just before we get there, it is worth pausing and pointing out the fucking grim thing about this is the defense in real life actually did play a tape of the exorcism at the trial. Yep. And they actually argued that it was demons and named the demons and they played that for the jury. This isn't a movie thing. This isn't

just invented for fiction. That is what the defense actually did. It's so fucking grim. Yeah, you can actually go and listen to it. It's German, but you can go and listen to the tape. It's online. Right. And by the way, don't, but no, it's very clearly a mentally ill teenager. Yeah. It's like this movie adds a fucking horse and a cat attack. I mean, spoilers, but like, they add a shit ton of stuff to this tape to make it credible because the real tape is just a girl being like, I think I should get back on my medication, guys. I don't know about you, but this is not going great. Yeah. Well, okay. So the, the access system is starting off. And right away, you can see there's a serious goddamn problem.

And if you've ever been into a, as an Emile understanding, because right away, he says, all right, don't pay attention to anything that she sets. Right. Really, wait, you guys don't have any kind of say, so if she says specifically, there aren't any demons in me,

stop hitting me with that. We're, we're gonna, we're gonna not pay attention to that. Classic demon trick. Yeah. Apparently Jesus, that's terrifying. Yeah, especially when combined with he's not saying don't listen to anything. She says it's don't listen to anything. It says. So you're referring to the girl as it. This is not a good start. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah. Exactly., anything that comes out of her mouth is the demon talking. So if she says, please, please stop. I'm dying.

Ignore that. Yeah. It's his opening instruction. Yeah. So, but of course, it's cinematic. So we're about to do an exercise. And there has to be a sudden thunderstorm and a cross on the wall,

tipsofer and winds up upside down. Yeah, which presumably the jury could hear that on the tape. Is that what was that? That's how the crucifix cutting upside down. Yeah, which presumably the jury could hear that on the tape. What was that? What was that? I'm sitting on a crucifix turning upside down, turning upside down, rubble, rubble, rubble on a different story of this house. Well, I love later on it when we come back out of these, yes, the tape that you just heard and the additional things I told you as it was playing, you know, as if they're going

to fix that or whatever. Oh, this movie could have nailed comedy if they had just hand back out of the doodly-do and the priest is like, and then the horse is like, and the horse is like, and the person is like, and the person is like, and he's like, wah, wah.

So, right, well, so you keep mentioning the horse, we should probably talk about all the weird animal attacks that happened during this exercise. Starting with the cat attack, which I love so God damn much because it's like the bunny and holy grail, right? The priestess state of their going, good out demon from Satan and this chonker ass cat jumps up and grabs his throat. Like it does.

Like she unleashes upon him, her army of cats for one second. Right. You can poke him on attack. Like she's feeling the cat. And they're off again. So yeah. So but well, the cats are attacking. She rips through her buzz. She, I don't a smacks the guy or pulses nuts off or something. And she jumps out of a window, Allah reframadness. Yep, right. Apparently she's fine by the way.

Apparently she hit the ground running from that second story window, because the priest and his entourage all run down to chase her into the barn now. And they grab her in the barn and the doctor. Remember our surprise witness, the doctor takes her heart rate and he goes, her heart rate is 180 beats per minute.

And I don't want to be that guy, but that's not that fast. Well, she just run into the bar and it should be pretty. Yeah. So yeah, so they catch in the right. And now by the way, all the horses are freaking out. And I'm like, Oh, please give me a horse attack. We already had a cat attack. We know she can control animals.

Please give me a horse attack spoiler. They totally do. I mean, the horse doesn't jump on him and grab his throat, which would have been way better. And this is where she's like yelling at him in German. It's like, oh my god, that's so spooky. Why would she be yelling in German unless, you know, in real life? She was German. So, she was just yelling. Yes. Well, I messed the thing was like, she was German. So, she was yelling. Well, I messed the thing was like, so, and at a certain point, they tell us the six demons that are supposed to be there. One of them is Hitler. And so she's yelling in German and we're like, oh, she must be possessed by Hitler. But yes, in real life, she was just German.

Yep. And there's this great moment. He's like, tell me your name. And I just wrote in my notes, should I ask he's mom? She'll blow you up for on the spot for free. So just, yeah. But yeah, the demons arcane, Nero, Judas, Legion. Nope, that was a bunch of them. Bellal and then Satan himself. Oh, they didn't have, okay, in real life, she said Hitler was where the girl did it in real life.

I guess in the movie, they took Hitler out because that was just too silly. Too fucking silly, too obviously silly. But I love that the boss showed up, right? I really wanted it to do to like him micromanaging them. Oh, so you're using the cat attack now. Tell me what you're gonna do. Like we're gonna have a horse.

Do you want to do this? You're Satan. Also, why is Nero here? He's just like a king, maybe. Like, also, I love how they say Lucifer's name last. Like he's the headliner. Right. Yeah.

Like he said, like, inside me is Lucifer. And then Kane, you've like, well, that's a bit of a step down, actually. Yeah, right. Yeah. For example, with Lucifer thing. So in Wellther, having the six-chage, I love to all the like spiders and bugs and scorpions in the barn start coming out going like, you got this boss or are you are you going to need us? We're right here, man. Yeah, the cat attack and a horse attack. Yeah. And it's like, dad, could you could you just walk over in front of that hole and stand there? Like, like,

it's looking kick you into face. Like, this is set up like w wf at this point. Yeah. The whole stand that way to be kicked. Useless snake attack is the part of the movie where I had to pause because I was laughing so hard because the demon snake lands on the priest, but it's a fucking garden snake in the middle of go fuck yourself. I was. Yeah.

That was weird, right? That was. Yeah, that was weird, right? That was. But then we get the horse to take the horse attacks the dad, right? And then the doctor has to run over and help him and they're like, okay, well, now the doctor's not on the exorcism grow. We have to, we have to give up on the exorcism that seems over, right? It feels like that's bad prioritizing. Like I would, I just stick to the end of the exorcism and then go back to the data after that because you got to start the whole exorcism

again. There's going to be another horse attack just you're right. Just get this out, ticked off and nailed out. And then you can move on to the other things. All right, but the good news goes to the next time they'll know to board up the window. So yes. All right. So we back out of that doodly do into the courtroom and we look at the runtime on the movie and we think, well, it can't possibly be more than another eight or 10 minutes, right? But no, 35 fucking minutes still in this thing. So much movie left. But yeah, he explains that like after the horse attack that it just really taken all the mood out of the exorcism. So they stopped doing it.

Again, to be clear, this movie is lying because they performed 67 exorcisms on the girl. Yeah, but their story to make themselves look good is, yeah, I mean, we tried once and then we were like, fuck it. She hit us with a horse. No, no, their story is, we did it once. And then she didn't consent to any of this, so we respected that because we're really good with consent like that.

Right, yeah. That's the story here. Yeah, us Catholic priests in consent, you know. So, and the priest comes and he's like, hey, you know, look, I never told their not to listen to her doctors. I just contradicted what they had told her and then implied she would burn in hell if she believed them instead of me. So really, if you think about it, I just, I, I just also gave her advice.

I was just a helpful neighbor if you think about it. Yeah. He, he specifically said, I never said she should quit seeing her doctors. It's like, right, you just told her to stop listening to her doctor. You can see them, like, just don't listen to the doctors. Right. Well, even in the movie, and I don't think this is actually real in the story, but even in the movie, she's like,

but you did tell her to stop taking her medicine, right? And she's like, what, I mean, technically, yes, I did. That's a funny story about that. Ultimately, we both felt you beyond medical care. And the weaver was a mentally ill teenager and the priest who believes in literal demons and the two of them got their minds together on this. It was a great meeting of

our consensus. Right. I mean, it seems like you're two full of demons to cure for me. What do you think? I want a spider to eat. All right. So for eating a spider and one vote for demons. Like to be fair, if she needed a second opinion, they could have asked the voices in his head as well. And that would be an out of the consensus. And again, the prosecutor is like, okay, so just to sum up, you think you have a tape of demons

and you're bringing it up here and now because you got in trouble? And the priest is like, yes, and the prosecutor's like awesome. Yep. Yeah, thank you Um, I wanted to vote anyway Yeah, and then the prosecutor points out. He's like, okay, so we see her we hear her on this tape speaking a bunch of different languages To be clear like she spoke those though, right like and he's like oh, yeah Yeah, she did like Greek and Hebrew and a little Aramaic a little air I'm like yeah, yeah, okay, just so so we're clear That's not like an unexpected thing she actually did know those let yeah, sure did yeah also

She it's not like she was speaking highly complex version at one point. She's just counting right which you know I can do that in several languages. I don't know right exactly right as you only had to get to six And then also like so in the on the tape it sounds at a certain point like there are two voices talking at one don't know. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Right. As you only had to get to six. Yeah. Well, and then also like so in the on the tape, it sounds at a certain point like there are two voices talking at once, which is of course a classic demon thing. And it explains the double vocal chord thing. I don't know how real this is. It did send me on this really awesome rabbit hole of overtones singing on YouTube. Check that shit out. Yeah. It was really cool stuff. But way cooler than the real thing, which is that if you yell into an old tape recorder,

it distorts and sounds like two-boy. Yeah, right. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Which is what's on the tape, by the way. Oh, is it? When people try and bring this tape up, they're like, listen, you can hear the second voice. As someone who edits sound, no illusions, you would be like, no, she's just just membrane. Too loud. Yeah. Right. Too close to the mic. It's not like the voices are saying different things at the same time. Yeah. Unless there's second voices. BEEP.

Hahaha. Yeah. Right. So they're like, okay. She's like, uh, do you want to re-uncross exam in your witness? And she's like, no, I do wanna, I do wanna reserve the right to bring him back to the stand later because he's really our only a-lister. So there's that. But she's like, but now I wanna call my surprise witness who definitely didn't die or commit suicide since he agreed to take, oh shit, he's not here.

Ah, oh shit. I not here. Oh, shit. I can't imagine what would have happened. But the judge gives her like a bonus data fight her doctor, which was nice. Really nice of her. The hot pool of the judge. There's no way they needed a full day to find him either, because he's outside.

So he's not showing up to the courthouse with to go all the way to the courthouse, but not go in. Like, how hard did you look for him? And did you? Yeah. Out of Right. He's just in the parking lot or he's in a parking lot. I guess I don't know. But yeah, he's just, he just walks out of the parking lot. He's like, Oh, there you

are. I guess we didn't have enough time left in the movie for a whole big driving scene. That's a big thing. But he's all demon haunted now. And he's like, I can't do it. The demons are real. And then he backs it into a car that's not coming. And it gets hit by a car to death. And it's way funnier than I just made it. So funny. I really wanted a demon to come out and take a picture of him for Geico. Oh, this's just fucking, my greats are going to go crazy. Was the worst. So yes, she's super sad. Now so now it's time for alcohol from a coffee mug drinking, right? So that's that's movie for not just normal amounts of lawyer booze. Yeah, her boss walks in and he's like, hey, you have an amuga Scotch. Are you a podcaster now?

She drinks a lot in this film, but no point. Does she even seem remotely drunk? No, which misses the point of having a day drinking. Yeah, right? Damn it. So yeah, but her boss comes in and he wants got he wants her badger gun. Damn it. Yeah, but she needs just one more chance to win the case. And with, with supposed to be upset that she might lose her job over this, but she's really bad at her job. The two things we know about this case and the time she's honoured it a multiple murder I went to get. Right.

Yeah. Exactly. The best thing for the world is for her to lose her. So yeah, but she gets with the Boston Greece together one more chance to, you know, make the murdering of a child morally justifiable damage. So she goes back to the jailhouse to tell Father more about the dead surprise witness. Right. Right. And so like, first of all, he says to her, you've been crying. And it's like, yes, but like in her office, she was crying. Did she cry all the way over there, all the way over to the jail? And the thing is, he's upset that his friend has died in an

accident. And I wrote, quick, tell him it was an exorcism. He won't be upset. But yeah, but he's like, hey, look, I don't give a shit about this dead guy. We don't really have time for me to mourn or anything in this film. We have 26 minutes of runtime left and I still have to and some of that's going to be credits and I still have to tell Emily story, dammit, right? Surely she should just say, okay, tell me Emily story. He's like, no, I mean, I really want to do it in front of the audience and the witnesses and stuff. I feel it's more dramatic about do it.

If I tell you now, it's it's missing something. Apparently, yeah, when she's like, well, I really want to do it in front of the audience and the witnesses and stuff. I feel it's more dramatic about do it. If I tell you now, it's it's missing something. Apparently, yeah, when she's like, well, I really don't know. My boss just told me he's going to fire me if I put you back on the stand. Not so sure about that. And then he gives her this letter and he's like, here, here is a letter from the victim that completely exonerates me. Uh, just remembered that I had this, which is weird because they let me take it into jail.

Right. Yes. I've had this in my butt cheeks for a very long time. So yeah, so he goes in the letter to read and then we immediately cut to her reading it late that night. And this is where she turns the alarm clock around and I thought, yeah, it's not then the demons won't be able to tell what it's 3 a.m. So they won't be able to do anything very clever.

Oh right, clever, clever. But this letter I guess is going to be the, you know, whatever, the picture of the tire tracks from my cousin Vinnie, yeah, of this film, right? So we get her like, pushing through the press the next day, trying to get to the courthouse one last time, this time by the way, totally wearing the bullshit locket. Mm-hmm, yeah. So she's like, our surprise, we just got killed,

you're on her by a car, but we are gonna recall, Father Moore to the stand for bonus insanity. And we see like, comfiori, like, get pissed off and march out of the court room. We said, God, damn it. I told her not to do that. And he says, you know, Emily thought this letter was really important to share, which is why I didn't. Right. Yes. Exactly. Which is why I saved it as a surprise, like the best true things. Yeah.

And then she presents to him the problem of evil. Yep. She's like, why would God let something so bad happen and the protagonist, once again, he's like, objection, theodicy, like what? He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, but luckily this letter is to answer once and for all why God let six demons torture a 19 year old girl to death.

Yes. And Father Moore says, you know, I can let Emily answer that. And if he'd got out a puppet and started doing an event, he would not have been any more crazy or manipulated than he's been so far. But it would have been it's funny. He's like, yeah, so this letter takes place in a doodly do. So we doodly do back where post exorcism now Emily walks outside into the demon fog one early morning and in the demon fog, there's a demon tree. And she comes across herself laying down in the ground with poop on her face or something.

Yeah, they're not super clear about what that thing on her face is. It looks like poop, which means either she smeared poop on her face or she's just been laying there so long, something shit on her walk and mine. Yeah. But it gets crazier. Yeah, because who should show up? But Mary, the the

And hey credit to this movie. At least this movie is smart enough not to actually show Mary the mother of Jesus. Right. Yeah. No, we back way to the priest needs going like, yeah. So turns out Mary Virgin Mary that that's the Mary showed up.

Listen to Jerusalem. So yeah, so she shows up and she explained that God has this really weird plan by which he could torture her to death with demon possession and thereby scare more people into Catholicism. Yes. And here's the brilliant meta thing about this, right? God wants to torture this teenager to death so that they can make a scary movie about it. Exactly. And more people to be Catholic.

Exactly. I really, I mean, Emily, of course, is like, oh, whatever, the will. Exactly. I really, I mean Emily of course is like, oh whatever the will of Lord, I really would have loved a little more pushback on that plan. Emily, Emily, Mother Mary? Emily, I want you to know heaven is not blind to your pain. Oh, that's good to know. Yes, but you must always remember. Because I have these horrible seizures and I've been eating bugs and breaking my teeth. Yep, yep, like no.

Really ripping them right out of the skull? Yes, I understand that, but worry not, For your pain is not in vain." Oh, excellent. I knew there was some higher purpose to my unimaginable suffering. I can't wait to hear what it is. Yes, there is. Your suffering will make more people believe in my son. Sorry, just to clarify, heaven is allowing me to be filled with demons, to live in torment and to die,

so more people will be Christian. Catholic. Right, yeah, sub-sac, yeah, okay, sure. But don't take the wrong way, but could you just appear to people, you know, the way you're appearing to me now? Well, seems to, like that would just work a whole lot better. Do I?

I show up all the time. I sometimes I appear on toast, brute all over the place. I've done it. Right, but maybe you could just, you know, show up like this, all magical and talking and stuff. Talking and magical. Yeah, I mean, it seems a bit much. Right. Yeah, I guess we don't want to be unsuttle

Mm-hmm. I suppose if it's God's will can I just ask how many people will this convert? Yes, my child almost seven Almost seven four Right Right. Oh, God. Look, that's the thing about all of these religious movies and possession movies. So if they let us have all of the scenes, they would be as ridiculous as we make them sound on this show, right? Yep.

So, yeah. So yeah, so but Emily's like, oh wow Virgin Mary me dying would be proof of God, huh? And we're like, no, not at all because because schizophrenia and epilepsy if God hadn't also made schizophrenia and epilepsy then yes, and this totally work. And obviously the only evidence of any of this conversation between Emily and Mary are in the letter that the priest produced on the final day of a trial. I've been going really badly for him that he is now reading aloud. This is the only piece. This obviously didn't happen in real life.

This is the filmmaker just absolving all of the people who led this girl to her death, 100%. But he might as well have ended the letter by saying, and therefore, Father Moore is innocent, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely the end. Yes. Right, right. Exactly. And also, by the way, I don't want to glaze over this, this movie's answer to the problem

of people is that it's okay to torture a 19 year old to death if it sufficiently proves your own existence. Yeah. Just want to make clear that that is the moral underpinning of film. Jesus Christ. And also like quick question to the doctors who are listening, right? If your patient tells you that their suffering is necessary in order to let people know the devil is real, do you a high fives and a say, get on with that, or b, that's the part you take their medication. And if you didn't, would you go to fucking jail? Yeah.

Okay. So, and then the final question, she's like, so why did Emily not want anymore? Exorcism's after the first one where she jumped out of a window from a second story bedroom and was manhandled and tied to a thing and broke her knees and shit. He's like, oh, she's just couldn't, couldn't take it. She, uh, she tapped out.

Yeah. We have a, we have a strong tap respecting policy here. Yeah. Right. He says, like, she wouldn't submit to anymore. And, you know, I'm all about the consent as we very clearly established. So okay. So now the protagonist gives us his closing argument, right?

He reminds it. So because at the end of the pre-story, he's like, you know, and then she had stigmata, because why the fuck not, right? Her hands and her feet, nice oil, nice wear. So the protagonist points out, he's like, oh, by the way, we don't really need a way to explain the Christ like wounds on the person who had a documented history of self-harm

and psychopathic religiosity. So, moving on. Yeah. Welcome back to God Awful Movies. Yeah. Where each week we take a look at. So he also points out he's like, Hey man, like, you know, I'm religious,

I'm statistically speaking, most of you in the jury are religious. We always manage to do that without murdering any college kids. Weird, huh? Weird. He's like, and by the way, reminder, the defense's case is this picture. And he shows them the picture again. And he's like, so just to be clear, this is God's plan is his defense. Yeah. Yeah. And he says, you know, I'm a manifest, but in the courtroom, it's facts and not faith that matter. And I wrote, oh, 2005 American legal system, brace yourself, you sweet innocent.

Okay. Okay. Okay. This means just so good. I wanted Laura Lennie to just get up and sit at his table and be like, I'm the prosecutor now, I win. Yeah, right. I swear to God, one draw of like the guy at the prosecutor now, I win. Yeah, right. I just went to one draw.

Like the guy at the end of eight mile or something. Yeah. It's a moment when she almost does because he stops and it's her turn and she just sits there for a moment and I was hoping she's like, fuck yeah, he's right. I got nothing. Yeah. But instead, she's like, I thought you were a man of faith. Huh?

Yeah. High five, everyone. I've got him. He said, no, not really, no, no. Her closing statement is, because again, I was kind of bummed out by his statement because it's based on a true story. And like, that's really fucking sad. And Laurel and he gets up and is so ridiculous that, again, it made this movie a comedy again,

because she stands up and she's like, things exist or don't. I win. And when he said it, but she says that I said yes at the end of and then everybody, every of the sentence you can punctuate with, no, does it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right. Well, so her entire case is when you say that you're 99.99,% sure what you're really saying is your point zero zero zero one percent unsure right. Like I heard your entire closing argument is so you're saying there's a chance. Yeah right. Which by the way the answer to what she's saying is there a chance of is literally no yeah right. Is it possible that God chalked that 19 year old full of demons so that we'd believe

in his son? Nope. Nope. No, for a variety of reasons. Is it a fact that she was psychic and hyposensitive? Like the expert said, nope, nope, nope. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, We can do this on. But yeah, but she closes on the one thing I do know for absolutely sure is that father more loved Emily. Yeah, and her tone is like if anything his crime was loving her too much It's like no his crime was negligent homicide. Well, you know

Right. Yeah, that's the exact opposite actually right. Yeah, that's the exact opposite actually. All right. So now it's time for the verdict because this movie is this eager to be over as I am for it to be over. The jury finds father more guilty of negligent homicide because I got when the form of the jury hands the judge and I wanted to be another undeclared letter from the dead goal. They just in. Wait, Emily would like to chime in. She's been on the jury the whole time. Yeah, but so the judges like we'll do this same sentencing on April 12th or whatever. And Laura Linne is like, oh, actually, um, we need to wrap this movie the fuck up. Can we just do the sentencing now?

And she's like, yeah, that would be silly for us to do a whole another scene, wouldn't it? Yeah, it's like, we've only got Tom Wilkinson for like one of the scene after this. So we really need to get this moving. Right. Yeah. So she's like, okay. So I sentenced you to and then the jury's like, Oh, can we, can we do this? Sentencing and she's like, why the fuck would you? All right.

You just this one. Right. Right. But the jury recommends no punishment whatsoever? Time served, they recommend that he literally gets away with murder. Yeah. And the really, really upsetting and sad thing about this is this is what actually happened. Yeah.

They did put forward the fact that the parents shouldn't get anything at all because they've suffered enough for having gone through what they put themselves and put her through. And the priest gets time served. So off you go back into the world. Oh God. So grim. Yeah. Yes. Fucking terrible. So okay. So we wrap things up. We go back to the bar where Kompuri gives her back her badge and regained realizes that man, she did a great job exonerating that guy who was obviously guilty of negligent homicide. After all, she should get to be a full partner at their law firm. But she didn't exonerate him. Nope. He's very happy and impressed that she managed to get a verdict of guilty.

Cause you're going to get a verdict. Yep. Yep. And he's like, now you can be a partner. And she's like, I don't want to be a partner anymore. And he's like, why wouldn't you? That doesn't make any sense given what, what do you want now? I don't know. It just felt like the character should change because that signals grow.

Yeah. And it was like the archdiocese, you know, feel that the trial raised public interest in the church, which is like, yeah, I mean, what they mean is at least to talk everyone's mind off the ramp and p to feel it. Yeah. It's right. It's right. It's a direct demand. Exactly. All right. And so it's just one more time to emphasize just how predictably stupid this fucking movie is. So final scene, it's raining and we're like panning down from the rain, past some trees, and we're like, Oh, in a cemetery, aren't we yep, it's a cemetery stupid bullshit fucking movie. So father Moore and Laura Linney are standing there at Emily's grave stoned,

right? Having their final chat together. And he got to choose her epitaph. What is that? What is that? Well, you know, it's on you. He murdered a, he gets dibs. That's how that works. Yeah, right, right. Well, and the, the epitaph is fucking terrifying. By the way, it's workout your own salvation with fear and trembling. A statement so insane that Kierkegaard in the time he lived named his book about how dumb religion was after that quote. He was like, I'm going to call it fear and fucking trembling. That's fucking stupid. It's like, I just, I, I rub it. I'm like, wow, that's a great reason to stupid. It's like, I just, I, I rub that. I'm like, wow, that's a great reason to never pretend that book is real. It's amazing how many single sentences do that in that book.

Be afraid, very afraid. Yes. loving God. All right. So, and then we get Lorelyn, he put in all our trial stuff away in her box. I expected a warehouse from Raiders of the Lost Ark type situation, but no, she just puts her shit in. Like we watch her so long she goes to bed at this point. I'm like, are we just going to watch her live the rest of her life? We do.

My all of my final notes are nothing. No, just just the lady just going to watch her fall asleep. Okay. And then of course the movie gives us a couple of little title cards worth a wrap up. Right? The movie says now that murdered girl's grave is an unofficial shrine to homicidally religious people all over the world. Nice. Yeah. And that's also true. It is a place that pilgrimage to people, for people. Oh, God. Oh, also, they point out that Father more went into seclusion. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't appeal his conviction because he got fucking lucky and didn't have a leg to stand on.

Right. Yeah. Why would he appeal it? Yeah. The priest was like, few. I'm going to go fucking hide. So Noah and Eli don't kick me to death. Right. Yes. And then it comes up and it's like, and Laurel and he's character cashed in on this case and made a lot of money off the death of an innocent young girl. Yeah, the lawyer shared her notes on the trial, the treasurer's notes from trial, which went on to be published research that we exploited for this awful film. Yep. And fun fact, the lawyer in the real case was a guy called Eric Schmidt Leithner, who had previously made his name as a lawyer for the defense in the Nuremberg trials. So he was, oh no shit. That's his. Consider it like, wow. He's right now.

Wow. Everyone deserves a fair trial. But when you're going to that lawyer, you know you've got a case to try and fight. Bloody hell. Jesus. Oh, that's, that's fucking fascinating little nugget. Okay. So to close things off, I'm putting you guys on the jury. And I'm going to ask you for the sentencing stream recommendation that we should have gotten for Father Moore. Oh,

Laura Lennie has to defend the Catholic Church from now on. I'd sent him Father Moore to have to be present in the room anytime anyone watches this film so they can see how clearly he is the bad guy so he can be there and witness that on their face. Oh wow, that's a pretty good one. All right awesome. So that wraps that one up man that was a lot harder. I watched that movie before many moons ago before I was a skeptic.

I didn't realize how bad that shit was. I didn't realize how hard that one was. I didn't realize how hard that one was going to be to get through. It was real. Um, so, Mars, thanks, thanks again. Thanks as always for coming on and suffering alongside us there. Oh, always a pleasure, guys. Yeah. Cheers. And by the way, if anybody is new to the show and they haven't really been paying attention, where should they go to hear more from you? Yeah. So, uh, you can hear me on the sketch mix with a K podcast every fullnight. You're gonna be on B reasonable once in a blue moon. Let's face it. And you can check out the stuff I'm doing as editor of the skeptic at skeptic.org.uk. Awesome.

And of course, all that'll be linked on the show notes as well. And well, that does it for our review of the extra system of Emily Rose. That's not gonna do it for the episode just yet because we still have more of Eli's like, hell of a ration or whatever he calls it. So Eli, tell us what's on deck? Well, the Republicans are counting their chickens, hatched, no or seriously doubted by Nate Silver. So we're gonna be watching the documentary Trump 2024. Like after the president.

Oh, that's actually that's a good fucking thing for the helltacular or whatever it is. So with that to look forward to, we're gonna bring up a so 270 to a merciful clothes. Once again, a huge thanks to Mars Perseverant alongside us this week. And perhaps even a huge thanks to all the Patreon donors to help make the show go.

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Neil Iboz, the guy with no solutions promised to work harder and another track next week until then. We'll leave you with a breakfast club close. But the priests sincerely believed he was right, went on to become the law in the United States. Yeah. Yeah. The six demons inside Emily Rose went on to found a very successful reality show.

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