God Awful Movies - 291: The Atheist Religion

Episode Date: March 16, 2021

On this week's episode, Michael Marshall joins us for an atheist review of The Atheist Religion, the story of Matt Powell deciding that things he doesn't understand are impossible, and then presenting an embarrassingly long list of things he doesn't understand. --- If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/?fref=ts All our other music was written and performed by Morgan Clarke. To hear more from him, check him out here: https://www.morganclarkemusic.com/ --- Check out more from Marsh on Be Reasonable and Skeptics with a K

Maths? You're doing maths and so maths must be true and then in English you say, you know it must be true because everyone's speaking English. That's not what an English class is at school. What language are they speaking in maths, Matt? It's not just your English class they were speaking English in maths. Today in English class we'll be proving the existence of English and we're done Yeah, QED oh damn it that's Latin. Oh Math the gateway drug to biology Who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be who be my bad friend Eli Bosnick Eli, how are you this fine afternoon, sir? I'm Matt Powell fantastic. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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So now, yeah, okay. So Dallas, Marshall, what will we be breaking down today? Okay. So we watched the Atheist Religion. It's the Auerlong documentary in which Matt Powell, the Jared Kushner of being wrong about evolution, destroys Darwinism with monkey sailors, I think basically the entire TV segment. Surpers? Yeah, yeah. So Eli, how bad was this movie? Well, if you love making documentaries based on not understanding the underside of a snapple cap,

but your mom says you can't do it indoors anymore because of that time, Aaron Ra, upper decked your toilet. You will love this movie. Oh, God, look, I just want to point out, first of all, that we could have done an entire fucking episode on the comments. Okay. I would have enjoyed myself so much more. If instead of watching the movie, I had just scrolled through all 1,158 comments.

Okay. Cause they break down as follows, right? 35% or so are young earth creationists thanking him for his ministry. 35% or so are atheists who randomly happen upon this shit and are making fun of him. And 30% or so are gam listeners who deliberately happened upon this shit and are making fun of them. And it's a proud fucking legacy. If I die tomorrow, I've done my part. Oh, poor Matt, we're gonna, we're gonna outrank him on YouTube with this episode.

Go's up again. Sorry, Matt. Okay, so is there anything you just want to nominate? This one for me the best to be in the worst debt? Yeah, yeah. I want to say best worse use of the fossil record mostly because some of the arguments they make in this movie are so old they've fossilized all the time. I'm out old and dead.

These arguments are and they just keep digging them up and bringing them back out again. Yeah, boy, they so got nothing. All right, speaking of which I was actually going to go with best worst clam-based argument. I just I'm putting a pin in the clams right now because I had so God I was literally on the floor I didn't trust myself to sit in a chair after the clam argument, but we'll get there We'll get there. I have so many my make-a-wish at this point is follow-up questions about this Movie and of course I'm gonna take the easy one. I'm gonna go with best worst

Dinner table full of experts. So for those of you who heard our first Matt Powell review, science falsely so called, he had Stephen Anderson as an expert. When I say that the bar managed to be lowered for this movie, I'm talking hard hitters. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, we'll spend some time with them. All right. So I'll say what I am exhausted at the mere thought of revisiting this nonsense. So we're going to take a quick break. But when we come back for you to dive into all the I know you are, but what am I? It is the atheist religion. In thawasted sound spirit spirit more like nothing. Em hilarious. Blue.

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So feel free to grab a pair for yourself and a spare in case somebody, you know, reappropriates the first pair. That's 15% off it by racon.com slash gam. By racon.com slash gam. No, thanks Noah. Now if you don't mind, I'll go back to my program now. Yeah. And remember, don't let your grandchild be an octavrute. There it is. Yeah. Okay, everyone. Thanks for coming to the planning meeting for my next big movie This is where you guys are supposed to clap a pile is just for the dayable Okay, well as I said the basis for this movie is gonna be I don't get it therefore it isn't real

So why don't we go around and talk about what we don't understand, huh? Okay, and well I for one I don't we go around and talk about what we don't understand, huh? Okay, well I for one I don't understand Actually, Mars we had several requests for you to do your southern accent again Did you very much so yeah, the people need more? All right, then yeah sure Well, I for one don't understand why the channel on the TV matters when I'm trying to use the VCR. That's a good point right there.

Here, here. Also how to help us a coupon expire. But I mean, I understand that bread of business only runs a sale for a limited time, but if I bring in the coupon, that should be valid. That's a good one. Don't burden, put that in the movie. No, guys, I mean, it has to be stuff about science that we don't understand. Not just like the world and stuff.

Oh, why didn't you just say so. Okay, so, um, what don't we understand about science that we could make this movie about? Oh, about. Oh, everything pretty much everything. Yeah. All right. Well, then let's move this kitchen table out to my mom's backyard and we can get started. Yeehaw. And we're back for the breakdown. We're going to open up on the DVD cover art because damn, if he was going to Photoshop, oh, that shit and not get it into his YouTube release. And I feel like we're gonna do an episode

on just the DVD cover art if we really wanted to, right? It is monkeys praying to Richard Dawkins who is dressed like a Jedi while a tie fighter attacks a T-Rex in the background, and it is definitely the coolest part of the movie. And the most realistic. Why is the tie fighter? Why is the tie fighter?

Why is Dawkins dressed to Jedi? I get the point that they're making, you know, that universal truth, that all atheist worship Dawkins is an unerring source of truth and not to be ever questioned. I get that. Why the tie fighter stuff? Yeah. Why is the tie fighter attacking the tyrant? Why are they on different sides? I feel like they would be friends. I know fucking idea. Well, I found it be most unrealistic on the cover though, was at the bottom where it says from the makers of science falsely so-called, I'm like, makers, Matt,

plural, really normal. It will come, give me a fucking break. All right. And then it comes up to tell us that it's available on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Who the fuck is that for? I'm watching it on YouTube man. Nothing says success like proudly stating that your movie is now available on YouTube.

Yeah, that's the high bar of movie of moving picture. The only purpose that can serve is to make fun of someone who bought this as a DVD. Yeah. All right, so then we open up on actually the same Richard Dawkins quotes that we just read in the David Ike book paraphrasing here either you believe in evolution or you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, this is great. It's great. If you meet an evolution, Zaya Dawkins has the right that ignorant, stupid or insane.

Now let's meet a couple of them. Let's spend an hour back in that quota. But I love so, yeah, so we get this little montage of atheists saying very, very nasty things about creationism. And like the sources for R shit is like CNN, right? These shows a clip of Larry King interviewing Bill Nye whenever his side in his own goddamn movie gets represented by a quote from WorldNet Daily. Yeah, according to reliable and very good news network WorldNet Daily,

Atheists are coming for your babies. It even was the thing on WorldNet Daily, the article he's referencing was written by Chuck Norris. I found this. This is a true Norris article. Who do you believe CNN or Chuck Norris? The Chuck Norris network actually. The whole argument that they're making as well is that atheists are evil because they're putting stuff on the internet that they're trying to persuade people with. Says this movie that Matt Powell put on the internet to try and persuade people with it.

Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, so then Matt Powell shows up. You know, we're still getting the credits and everything. But Matt Powell shows up, you know, we're still getting the credits and everything, but Matt Powell shows up. His first appearance on screen is totally pony Charles Darwin. Right. He said, first of all, he puts up a quote and he reads a quote, the quote that he puts up on screen is wrong. He reads the correct quote, but they they're not the same thing. And the quote is Darwin saying, you know, I wonder sometimes

if I haven't been devoting my entire life to something that was wrong, right? This comes from a letter that I just want to point this out. This comes from a letter that Darwin sent to a Scottish geologist, Charles Lyle, and the very next sentence in the letter is essentially, good thing I don't have to worry about that since you guys just proved me right. This is the next quote. He says, you know, I sometimes wondered if I was maybe wrong about this whole thing. He says, quote, now I look at it as morally impossible in investigators of truth, like you and hooker

here, here he's referring to work and geology that proves the earth's antiquity can be wholly wrong. And therefore I feel that I may rest in peace and quote. And we even without that context, Matt's point here is Charles Darwin had doubts. I have never had doubts. Matt, yeah, right. That not only is the point shit made, but it's also a shit point. I just, I also love how he talks about Charles Darwin.

He actually says Charles Darwin, who everyone is suddenly a fan of in 2020. It's like, yeah, everyone became a massive fan of Charles Darwin in 2020. Darwinism, we just, one of those things we all got into during the first lockdown. It was Sanoadour, Tiger King and the theory of evolution of natural selection. Yeah. No, yeah. That's when you guys put them on your money, right? You put them on your money in 2020.

And I'd never seen Matt Powell before either. So the first time I see him is like, have I seen this guy before? Oh, yeah, he's the guy who came up to my table in that ball just do a magic trick real quick. How dare you? How dare you insult my proud profession? Oh, you're getting a website made about you for that, man. So and then we of course we go to the place any good documentary about evolution should start, the Columbine massacre. You see, when they were explaining why they did it, they mentioned the word evolution air go. This is all evolution's fault.

Oh, see, I, I missed that because he appears to be interviewing the head accountant for all the totes. Why? Why did this person agree to be on camera? Yes, but right, but he's telling us it's all because those kids learned about evolution. Yeah, yeah, that's because in one of their letters, they reference natural selection. And therefore the Columbine massacres were the fault of evolution. But the same court that mentioned natural selection also reference world war two and Vietnam. So you could equally say the shooting happened because they were taught history at school. Yeah. Well, the fucking quote also mentioned God. He said he was evolving into a God. So maybe it's because they taught him religion.

Yeah. Jesus. It's a good thing that there are no cases of religion causing people to think that there's superior to other people and then justifying their mistreatment or this argument sure would backfire on him. Yeah. I mean, if we are playing the what the high school massacres have in common. I mean, can I play too? Because I can find a lot of other things that are very, very clear in common. It's all high school massacres have in common? I mean, can I play two? Cause I can find a lot of the things that are very, very clear in common with dollar high school massacres. So yes, and then he throws out one of his favorite bullshit quotes, Matt Palsers, the soul of the time, he says that 97% of school shootings are carried out by atheists. What? What I love about this is, I tried to Google the source of that. And the only thing I could find was Matt Powell making this claim in May 2020, but at the time then, his claim was 99% of shootings were carried

up by atheists. Oh, really? So logically, according to Powell, theists shot up a lot of schools in 2020 to bring that under the hood. That's his own mass. Yeah, I just, I read that and I just, I wrote my notes, 117% of all rapes are carried up by Matt Powell. You're a move, motherfucker.

Yeah. Well, he follows it up with an even dumber claim. He says, Christians have never committed such an act. First of all, committed such an act, what script is he reading that off of? Second of all, he literally might as well say Christians can fly. Right. It never could. And so I'd point out the fucking middle ages, but I feel like the guy who thinks that

terror source fought in the Civil War might just get confused. But he also points out that atheists lead the world in alcoholism. And that is only because we have heath on our side. That's right. You got to do the meat and not the average map. Power. He says, Atheist drinking dude drugs. where I'm like, you guys rape and murder. I don't even know if you're right, but we'd still win.

It was curious he didn't mention like covering up for Peter Feeler in that list of bad things that people do. Funny, funny how you missed that one out, Matt. Weird. And he closes this section with in memory of Rachel Joyce Scott. Oh, yes. I'm just going to say he is a pioneer of one of those mid movie in memorials. Yeah.

So in case anybody's not familiar with her story, oh, that's apparently the girl who was asked if she was a Christian and she said yes. And that's why they killed her in Columbine. And that story is not true. Not at all. Not really. In memory of that dead girl, we keep lying about. Exactly.

Exactly. In memory of something that didn't happen. Yeah. Boy, how Christian is that of you? All right. So then we get to part one of the Atheist religion, which is titled the Atheist religion. It's a self-titled album, actually. Up until now, we've been watching the pre-movie.

Right. Yeah, exactly. And this is where we meet, in my opinion, the star of the show, Dr. Raw Matt. Hey, man, you don't have to use your gay wrestling porn name. Not a girl in a Christian anymore. You can go back to being named whatever it is you were. Yeah, or that. Dr. Rawmat is labeled as a creation scientist. And he says, the biggest problem with atheists is that they're not curious people. They don't ask questions. Well, the funny thing is, I am a curious person. I do have questions like, is your name really raw and what are you a doctor of?

If you go glim you find the answer to that. He is a doctor of Divinity studies. Oh But if you go glim you also find out he's apparently a professional athlete and a master herbalist who claims you to have a special way of Curing line disease. That is the creation expert. I feel like he like set up that web saying yeah right Well, no, okay, I'm on it. I gotta be fair because like he come up and he's like, you know, Atheist start really looking for answers and I was about to argue and I'm like, fuck, I am watching a map, how movie I am, not in a fucking play star. Are you right now? And is it me? Is Dr. Raw Matt being interviewed from prison here?

Because what is in it? It's a very sort of sparse, white sort of tiled background wall. I'm pretty sure he's in prison as they're interviewing him. So yeah, and then he points out that if we didn't actually believe in creationism, we wouldn't care enough to fight against it. He says in the movie about how atheism isn't real. Yeah, yeah, and he also says about how the atheist, they're so wound up by religion, which means it must be true. Says a guy who's really, really visibly wound up by atheism. Like, yeah, I think that's what I'm going to the idea of atheism. Oh, and we cut it real quick to a little bit more video of Aaron Ra. I had to write my notes at

this point, man, like this, his obsession with Aaron Ra would be disturbing if he was Aaron Ra's puppy, right? Do you know what they label Aaron Ra as just Aaron Ra, all one word. Is that how the pronouncing as well? So yeah, yeah. So we also, this is the first time we get that clip of Matt talking to his audience. Well, talking that space where he would like there to be an audience. There are some of your people in the room. Yes.

My notes keep coming back to that to about how this room is. He's talking to literally tens of people, as many as tens of people. I think you're exaggerating it. I do not think we achieve tens in that room. He has to feel the seats with multiple children. Like there are multiple children taking up multiple seats each to make the room feel false. So sad. And so he's trying to like, he keeps trying to get him to like react to some way to what he's saying, but they keep not reacting. At one point, he gets so desperate and he goes, this is so silly.

They hold up signs and stuff. Like no alpha male would ever do that. Well, okay. It is now my life's mission to get the picture that I know with a certainty is out there of Matt Powell holding up a sign. I don't know this picture. One hundred percent. Cause his whole point is how ridiculous it is that atheists are out there on the street

talking to people and it's like, Matt, guy, look at your team. You're wasting a lot of your own team here, man. All right. So and then because Matt hasn't realized that being like a religion is bad is not a great argument for him. They talk about atheist church, right? They talk about that. They speak over a black, they don't speak.

They get some guardian footage of a Sunday assembly organizer. They get the front of the building where it's like, this is an atheist church and then the organizer going, yeah, we get together. Yeah. Yeah. And it's been, this is one of the reasons I think Sunday assembly being like the atheist church. I think that's kind of a bullshit. And this is part of the reason.

It's just ammunition for decades like this to take out a context. That's one of the reasons the other reason would be something I think Andrew would have to remove if I was to say the other reason I think it's bullshit. Yeah. Well, so and then we cut back to raw. Jesus Christ, this guy.

So I have him down in my nose, by the way, is raw math. It's raw math. But you know, I feel like it's interchangeable. And he goes, he said, this is such an amazing line. He says, and I quote, atheism is a tiny little group of people. It's only five to seven percent worldwide. That is five hundred and thirty million people. Yeah. And the thing is, I'm not even sure if I think he's lowballing it there because that five to seven percent. That's not even true. That's barely

even true of like India and Ireland, of those places that aren't known for having massive atheist populations. Yeah, right. So, okay, China has, according to the latest survey that I could find 800 million self identified convinced A.D.S. at 61% of their population. And then like another 27 or something that are like, no, I'm not religious, man, that's silly. Yeah. So this is also where he says, if the Bible is like Lord of the Rings, why don't you protest Lord of the Rings?

And I wrote in my notes, I mean, if you and your buddy try to throw my wedding ring into a volcano because I would address it. And then Raw throws out probably maybe the biggest news in the whole fucking movie, right? He says the whole thing about how atheists lead the world in all the worst possible categories that you could lead the world in. Here are the worst possible things. Depression, medication intake, suicide, and school shootings. Now, first of all, it's fucking list of bullshit anyway, right? Like, no, lead the world in any of those.

But like, those are in raw meth's mind, worse than rape, murder, child abuse, spousal abuse, assault, all things that Christians, of course, lead at least the American statistics, like medication intake is worse than murder in your mind, dude. He's just parked in a van outside of like a chemo clinic. Boo's best. You kind of, you do get the feeling that he saw a list of bad things, picked out the ones

that atheists have worse at and then decided that those were the list of the worst possible things. Like, child abuse, is it that bad? It's not that bad. We'll skip over that one. Yeah. So then Rob Meth takes a break from punching holes into drywall to talk about how atheists need to start being so angry about that. He down. Come down. Come down. He's so tense. He's so worked up as he said that atheist needs to calm down into music. I literally paused the movie to take a drink of water

while this gentleman screamed calm down and he's frothing at the mouth. I paused this on his literal froth. I mean, I will give them something here, because as they talk about how shitty atheists are, they do cut to very footage of atheists. And as they're talking about how shitty atheists are cutting to a footage of Lawrence Krauss, like the FFF. Yeah, that's one for you. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Although I will say, if the point you're trying to make at that exact moment is how small a group atheists are, maybe

don't cut to the fucking national mall filled with them. Not when you're preaching in front of a half of just some people. Yeah, right. My favorite part about the shot of reason, Raleigh, is that he's showing these shots of atheism science. But then some girl just has a Da Vinci umbrella. Like it's just an umbrella with Da Vinci drawings on it, but they don't know that that's not atheism. So they're like, look at them fucking writing.

Writing in words. That's probably an atheist. I mean, to me, yeah. And then we learned that they've heard the non-stamp collector thing, right? They just didn't understand what they were hearing. That's impressive. Yeah, they'll continue to repeat it without understanding it throughout this movie. Several different people try and make it argument and still not understand it.

This is so fucking bizarre. So raw math takes the first crack at it. And he's like, you know, it wouldn't make sense if you didn't collect stamps, it wouldn't make sense to find yourself as a non-stamp collector, unless you know, you like fucking hated stamps. And okay, so I'm like like take me there, raw, how why would that? Why would it make it make more sense if you hated stamps? Which makes me want to know what he identifies

as, right? Because you know that guy's like, I don't fucking zip line no matter who you ask. Beautiful, the scenery. You guys want a t-shirt? All right. And then we, so we cut to part two, the big bang theory. And I'm honestly impressed that he remembered he was doing parts, right? Even what we've seen at a map. How he does forget later, he does stop doing parts. He starts listing things, but forgetting to do them is.

He does. He's doing the very short human time. And then he remembers they get it's, it's pretty fucking nuts. But yeah, so he starts giving us this, you know, he's going to totally nail the explanation of the big bank theory. He gets every single number he said in his explanation wrong by not just orders of magnitude. This is literally true. He gets him wrong by several orders of magnitude of orders of magnitude. Matt, if we're not going to believe in things that we don't understand, you don't need to limit yourself to stuff like the big bang.

We can talk about revolving doors and jack boxes. Start small. Just speaking of starting small, I also love how he's talking to this audience and he's saying about how like, you know, everything in the universe was condensed. And then you can tell that he's lost the audience. So he has to add, so everything in this room was condensed into it. And the audience lack object permanence for anything outside of the room while they're in there.

Yeah. So he says, I just, I love his math here. He says that a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second after the big bang that would be, you know, 10 to the minus 27th. The universe was, he says billions and billions miles across. Years I can tell, I'm no expert in this, but I did a quick googling. I believe it was closer to 0.88 millionaires. That's the size of a grain of sand to mat. So difference between grain of sand and billions of miles, that is the degree that your understanding is off by.

Okay, but this is where he gets into like the fascinating levels of wrong, because he's like all the waters of all the oceans and all the giraffes. And I realized, oh God, he thinks the big bang was like a clown car. We're just like, squeeze it. It just exploded out and all like, here's some water and some giraffes. Exactly. Well, you know, because I honestly, this was the point in the movie where I lost my atheism because look, they point out explosions can't cause corn dogs and there are corn dogs. Right. Yeah.

So this is role Matt who's pointing it out. He's talking very intensely about what explosions can and can't do. And I wrote my notes. Ah, I think I just worked out why he's in prison. He's in a few very intense explosions. This is where we also meet his poor atheist YouTuber for this film. This is your friendly neighborhood atheist who very clearly didn't realize how long he was going to be outdoors when he picked out that jacket. This dude, he is so clearly freezing

to death through this whole fucking movie. And he's doing, he's doing his best. He's trying to be intellectually honest, but he's doing it against Matt Powell. So he's like, I mean, it's negative 48 degrees. And Matt Powell just asked me, Homo says what? I'm not really sure. I got to say, like, honestly, especially when we're comparing him to that last guy that he roped in the raging atheist that he had in this last movie, this guy does as well as I think you really could hope to do in a movie that Matt Powell is going to edit. Right.

Yes. Yeah. Cause we get like five seconds of the interview before they could wait to slow motion, which obviously means that Matt Powell must have been crushing it. And that's why he could to win. Yeah. He didn't want to make this work. I look too bad. Yeah. I can't help but notice that Matt Powell has never challenged us to a debate. And I, I don't know, Matt, I'll bring Marshmallows. I'm just saying, I don't bring Marshmallows.

I'm not saying what I will do with those Marshmallows. But I guarantee you that we're not allowed to say what you would do with those Marshmallows. You will not get a clean cut, my friend. There will be no way to take out of contact. What I did. Yeah. So this poor guy, so what's amazing here too is like he matched so dumb that he thinks he got all the bad stuff out a lot of the times, but he didn't because clearly your friendly

neighborhood atheist guy is saying, dude, you have to stop saying Atheist believe X because that's not what Atheist means, right? Science believes X is what you mean. Atheist just don't believe in God, but because Matt Powell's editing it, talking over him and not listening to him, he tries to interpret that as no Atheist has ever said those words.

Right, right. Which he disproves by showing a clip out of context of a guy going, yes. Yeah. That's how we get. Yeah, the cuts are so brutal to cover where anybody says anything reasonable. And as you say, stuff that Matt leaves in just still shows how terribly is it what he's doing. He asked the question of a friendly atheist, Do you think artificial intelligence always requires a designer or have you just

not looked up the word artificial? To be able to do it. Artificial. I guess that's what that means. Okay. And we haven't really talked about the stock footage that he's been using through this, but we're going to fucking trape slightly over the back of a space PN now as the title introduces part three, what evolution actually teaches? Spoiler alert. This will not be what evolution actually is.

I was right about to type into my notes. Oh, million dollars says that we get surfing monkeys here, but then I saw Eli's notes and sure enough, so surfing monkeys. I also, I quite like that they start with BBC breakfast, news footage of them talking about the surf in Monkey's Things. So I thought, oh, that's Charlie and Naga from BBC Breakfast. I have sat on that sofa and debated the whole new path on that very sofa.

Really? Yeah, it was a little bit of nostalgia for me there. There you go. Right on, right on. He's dead now, but that was unrelated. Oh, I that was unrelated. Oh, I'll tell you. Or is it Matt Powell?

Oh, huh. I'll make the website if you make the movie, Matt. Call me. All right, so you have, this is by the way where I realized that I had 11 tabs open on my browser just to fact check his nonsense. Like every second sentence, I was like, that's not right. So, but anyway, so yeah, so the headline says,

monkeys who sailed 900 miles across the Atlantic, they're reading that from the Goddamn Daily Mail, by the way. So again, that's the source work he is working like for a scientific discovery. He uses someone on the BBC reading a Daily Mail article. Well, he also provides a screenshot of the headline from Google, not the article. No, he also provides a screenshot of the headline from Google, not the article. No, no. No. And that's because when he does show us an actual article or even better

a scientific study later on and shows like a little bit of it, we can see the bit directly underneath, which we'll come to, which just completely negates his conclusion drawn from that study. So he's now just, he's learned from, I think, from, from Partis and he's just showing us on Google rather than giving us the full context. Right. And he does this a couple of times. He does this very deceptively, right? When he's giving information wrong, he'll have somebody just Google it and go, wow, I didn't think that that would be correct, but I Google it and that's correct. But then when he's just making shit up, he just doesn't go back to that guy. That guy, by the way, is Paul Whitenberger.

Yeah. The guy who did the great-killing our Walter, the anti-fluoride film that we did on GAM. He's the new creationism expert. Yeah. He just shows up and he goes, we just see him occasionally googling something going, wow, Matt Powell sure is right according to my brief Google, but they show the googling and like the sources on like saying that the monkeys going from Africa to South America are like national geographic CNN Smithsonian dot org. And I'm like, do you guys

mean to do that? But I love how Paul Whitmerg is like, oh yeah, Atheist, they believe this. It's crazy. Now, let me tell you about how the flu right on our water is designed to make us all infertile, right? That's what it is. We also introduced my favorite expert of the movie here, Wayne Brayden. And if you're right on our water is designed to make us all infertile, right? That's his expert. We also introduced my favorite expert of the movie here, Wayne Brayden. And if you're wondering, his credentials, he is a retired police officer.

Yes, he is. Yes, he is. So you know his science is up. And I love his part of this is to speculate as to the motivation of the monkeys for crossing the water. It's like those police instincts just never leave you. You go straight to Milton. They have no motor. This is so fucking amazing. It is. It is. I love. So he does the background research on how long it would take monkeys to get to America. And that background research on the monkey raft involves him

thinking about how long it would take you to Rover in a canoe right now. That is his background research. It's amazing. Right. He says, I did some research on this. I wrote my notes. I bet it wasn't reading the actual fucking articles that Paul just googled, was it? It absolutely was not. And they talk about like, I know, it's got to be so hard. How a monkey's going to be able to do that. And what about the tides? The tides are going to keep getting in the way. They talk about the tides being an impediment to this because they assume the monkeys were trying to get to America. Yes, right. Like a kind of capuchin Columbus is what the thing they saw. Yeah, okay, so and we should point out by the way that this is coming from our

team of four overdressed men in a cornfield. Yep. Yes. At a kitchen table in a cornfield. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're sat in the middle of a crop circle. Yes, exactly. But he's got so many objections that are so beautiful. He's like, all right, talk Google canude. How long it would take you to get there? So that's bullshit evolution. Monkeys can eat saltwater, nailed it, destroyed it. Finally. And this is probably my strongest argument. I'm glad you're locking this on to the internet to put it in the digital record forever. Sharks would not ignore a jack anewful and lucky. They would get it. They would get it. The shark's are big fans of monkey. What I love about all this is they're using this to prove that the one of the scientific

theories about how monkeys got to America could not possibly be true because monkeys you'd have to get one place to another place, but their use is to throw out the science and prove Noah's Ark. So how the monkeys get from where Noah's Ark landed to America if it isn't by exactly the same thing. And they're saying, well, monkeys, you know, they'd run out of food. And what are they going to drink while they're on their on their raft? They can't see what they'll run out of fresh water.

They put your version is Noah's arm. Right. Exactly. Their argument is literally, well, it would have taken them 65 days. And that's ridiculous. Now 40 days and 49. Wow. That's fantastic.

Obviously. Well, by the way, they're going to argue later on that the flood was much longer than 40 days and 40 nights, right? They're going to go with the 371 day interpretation. There are for those who aren't aware, there are three different amounts of time that the Bible gives you for how long the flood lasts. But yeah, they're going to go with the longest stuff, but they do it all the way through the film.

They say, well, the scientific version says this and that can't possibly be true, but the same thing would have to have been true for your version of it. Right. So you're not actually debunking anything here. You're debunking everything. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. What I love the most about this scene though is that because we were going around the

table watching all these overdressed pastors and an ex-police officer explain why monkeys could never sail across the ocean blue. And one of them says, you know, it's really embarrassing that we even have to talk about this. And I'm like, finally got something right. Yeah. I find it really insulting and embarrassing that we even have to address these arguments that we have summarily failed to refuse completely. Yeah.

I got all dressed up in this suit that was for my wedding. And we'll only also be for my funeral. If you talk about how monkeys can't survive on a boat, which is what I believe deeply in my heart of hearts. All right, well, tell you what, surfing monkey references are the key to our map-powl drinking game. So we actually need a quick break at this point, but we're going to be back in a flash with even more of the atheist religion. Guys, you really didn't have to do this. be back in a flash with even more of the atheist religion.

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It is, yeah, it's delicious. No, it's not. Okay. All right, everybody, settle down. If we could all stop throwing our poop for a second, thank you. I'd like to call this meeting of the world's first monkey cruise to order. So as you all know, according to Matt Powell's

favorite imagination about a headline of an article that he didn't bother to read, we, a bunch of monkeys, have chartered a boat from here in Africa, to South America. Any questions? Yes. Uh, yeah. What are we going to eat? That's a great question. We are not actually traveling in a boat. We're actually going to be on a giant raft made of fallen vegetation. So we can probably eat that plus we can fish.. We can fish with poles and lines and bait and tackle. No, that's stupid.

We can reach into the water and catch clams and algae and stuff like you can literally YouTube us doing. Oh yeah, look at that. We can grab clams. We can't, we're gonna, okay. But what about storms and shark attacks? Those all seem like super important things. Okay, we're gonna. Okay, but what about extolms and chalk attacks? Those all seem like super important thing.

Right, right. Yeah, so again, the plan is not for one boat full of monkeys to succeed on the first ever trip. The theory is that one vegetation raft in all of the history of existence may have made it from the one place to the other. You see? Oh, that's insane.

Yeah. One last question. If this boat trip doesn't work out, the one place to the other. You see? Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. One last question. If this boat trip doesn't work out, does gravity still exist? I'm sorry, come again. I'm just thinking about how this event happening or not is marginally related to a separate testable and observable scientific phenomenon.

So if this doesn't happen, is the science of gravity entirely debunked? No, well no, it is it's not. Okay, that's good. All right. Okay. Well, let's take a 15-minute break to throw around some poop and then we'll all meet back here in the clothes that Matt Powell thinks we made for ourselves and set sail. and we'll all meet back here in the clothes that Matt Powell thinks we made for ourselves and set sail. Thank you. I'm a monkey. I am a monkey. And we're back for more of this shit.

And I know that you probably meant to get yourself, what the hell is the discussion of evolution doing going on this long with no mention of space octopuses? But don't worry, Matt is about to address that topic. The topic that you know how evolution teaches us that octopus and squids come from outer space? They're from space. Right, okay.

So I googled the quote, he throws up here. The first thing that comes up is snopes going, nah, man, fucking, no scientist ever suggested that fucking octopus is our alien. Yeah, and it goes even further than that because this is the point where he throws up a scientific study that postulates that octopus and squids are aliens. And I paused it at that point and read the very next line, which is, however, the paper also noted that such an extraterrestrial origin of, as an explanation of the emergence,

of course, runs counter to the prevailing dominant paradigm. Yeah. So will all the documentaries you make me watch be refuted by the polls book? Everything seems to be just yet, polls in career reading, what they're showing you, it seems to do the job. Yeah, that's exactly he goes, I'm not kidding, I'm like, no, man, you're stupid. Kidding is a step up from what you were. Now, kidding, you're lying.

That's a difference. But this, this is where X- cop, and it's my favorite. He counters this, you know, he's using that monkey science again. He's like, have you ever tried to catch a moving vehicle? And I was like, I'm fucking listening. Well, my friends and I, when we were kids, we were trying to jump onto a moving freight train, but if it was going fast, we couldn't. That's why squids probably couldn't hop on an asteroid.

That was going by their alien planet to come here. I can't decide what I love more about these explanations. How dumb their objections to Pazpermia are, or the fact that Matt Powell really felt like he needed to take some time to explain to his audience that actually space squids would be fairly unlikely. I know you look at him and you're like, yeah, that makes perfect sense, but no, no, I did actually. Here are a couple of reasons why that would be doubtful.

Yeah, it's great because it's so obvious that the police officer is picturing actual squid actually in space. Actually, after 100%. Just like going wee. Because then he talks about how like, when the asteroid comes into the Earth's atmosphere, you know, it'll start burning up. And like, you know he's picturing like,

calamari rain. That's what he's thinking. Yep. Absolutely. Also, he says, if squids were smart enough to evolve into space, why haven't they evolved into living on land? Where is the land to push?

What? Evolution is stupid. Why don't we have land to push something? That's the weak link in the chain for you, sir. What the fuck is wrong with you people? The other guy comes in to explain that this can't be true because octopuses and squids are mortal enemy. They don't get along. Why is there from the same planet?

The heliots were in the same planet. He goes, why wouldn't they be friends? I'm like, well, okay, I mean, as a Transformers fan, I can think of reasons, but that should not be your chief of checks. No, no, it absolutely shouldn't. And the thing is all the way through as well, he thinks he's really smart by using the plural of octopus as octopi, which isn't the plural of octopus,

but he thinks he's really smart. I think you'll find about these octopi from space, but he's probably one of that. Yeah, right, he feels like he's about to turn space like to push to do an intellectual prank. And what one thing I do like here is that we get another taste of the stock footage and all the way through do like here is that we get another taste of the stock footage and all the way through the stock footage is that we've seen. One thing that's

really nice is that all the stock footage of scientists has been pretty much entirely women. And I just like that the glass ceiling of being ridiculed in creation is propaganda is well and free and shattered. Yes, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. So we cut by the way to over to your friendly neighborhood atheist, not buying the whole space squid thing. Exactly. Yeah. And he's got a look on his face as he's looking at Matt explaining this. The expression is an expression I've done a million times when talking to people who are telling me about things like space. Yeah. Okay, like, mm, okay, go on. But I noticed we don't cut to Paul Wittenberg

Googling this one. So, I know. We come back to him later. All right, so and then he explains that beards evolved so it wouldn't hurt as much when we got punched in the face. This makes sense. It makes total sense to me why Matt Powell

doesn't understand how we got facial hair because he never did. Right. So it's an alien concept to him. But I can't believe that he thinks Beards came about because he got punched so much because his very smooth but utterly punchable face entirely disproves that theory. Right. Yeah. I wrote in my notes, if having a punchable face made you evolve a beard, Matt Powell would

look like ZZ. As would Rob Matt. Well, look, okay, so I did a little bit of googling. I obviously don't know anything about this shit, but it seems like that to me seemed reasonable, right? When they said that, I'm like, yeah, I could see how that happens. Like, you know, Dears, Antlers or something.

I had always thought it was like a peacock plume thing, right? Just sexual selection. Yeah, yeah. But women don't like beer. It's obviously they don't find them attractive. So it can't be that. So I'm like, yeah, okay. That sounds reasonable to me. But then we end up with raw mad explaining to us that no, no, no, if you have a beard, your hair will cut you if you get punched. I have no, he tries to explain this using the the Vaseline that a cut man puts on a boxer's face, but they put it on like their cheekbones and shit.

Yeah. That airy part. We do a great insight though where he's like, I've actually been punched in the face very hard and my beard is wide. Otherwise, I wouldn't have been fine. And I was like, Romant, get with me, brother. I really want to hear why you got punched. And just to point out at this point with Romant, he's no longer in the prison yard.

He's now on his web come in the dark because it's he wants to offend us in every possible way imaginable. And I thought, well, maybe he's indoors now because he ran out of yard time. You know, he's yard time expires. You could be back in and lock up. He's like, he was in solitary for that portion of the film. Yeah. Now, I have been enjoying raw

Matt's contributions to the film so far, but could there be, I'm going to say eight and a half minutes of him absolutely screaming about how monkeys don't work. Oh god, this was amazing. Right. Because he starts talking about how humans lost their fur because they were wearing clothes and didn't need it anymore, which is not, as I understand, at the consensus theory on why humans lost their fur. But he's given the chicken and the egg argument. He's like, but why would we have needed clothes if we had the fur because he can't imagine

a situation in which people might need multiple layers of clothing. Well, not even just multiple layers, also options, because if you're moving from like a very shaded area into like an open plane, maybe you don't want to be massively hairy when you're trying to chase something down, but then the winter comes and you don't want to be entirely exposed. So having no fur gives you the options of putting fur on and then taking it off again when you get too hot. Right. Well, and as if the editor is just fucking with them, raw Matt starts talking about, well,

you see those monkeys in the high mountains in Japan, they don't need jackets to stay warm. And then we cut to those monkeys sitting in hot springs so they don't freeze to death. But he is, again, he's screaming. He really have reported and put out a fire with less urgency. Fucking close. I thought at any moment it was going to pan over to an abused monkey. He didn't have any clothes that was like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like the people who made, I will want the great, great calling film.

It's just them. So it's all people from that production team. So it's just the guys on this film. They're like, so you're making this film. Do you want to stay on camera? Because he's saying no to us. I like the way you best boy, sir. How do you like to sit in that interview chair and tell me that monkey's don't need you? Then he brings up another one of Matt's favorite whipping boys, which is the fact that Duckville

dinosaurs likely crossed the Mediterranean Sea, which he describes as the Atlantic Ocean. Yes. Okay, but it does get better because they also think that our source for this claim is Sherlock Holmes. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. He absolutely believes that. It's amazing because the quote that he's actually citing means, look, I know that it's sometimes hard to believe things, but when you eliminate all the other possibilities,

even things that seem really unlikely are true. Yeah, it is not Watson. Did you know that Duck Bill Dynaphores can surf? It's so fucking stupid, yeah. And he keeps pointing out how stupid he finds this, you know, and he says, you know, in order for evolution to be true, this stuff had to happen. And I wrote again, like, do we get to play that game at? Because I've got some minutes on what you're talking about.

I feel like we're going to win this one, yeah. And then of course, we, he shows footage of somebody in one of those tyranosaurus, those big inflatable tyranosaurus costumes out on a surfboard because that's, I guess, what he's assuming scientists believe happened. Yeah. He thinks that dinosaurs surfed as well rather than swam because I don't know why he assumes that the dinosaurs wouldn't have swam. But then you get the pasta coming up and mocking the idea that dinosaurs could have done that at all.

And he says, well, what are they going to do? Are they going to eat fish while they're taking this journey? He's like, well, one, it wasn't really fish like we knew today. They're a bit bigger. But also two, they were underwater dinosaurs. So yes, why would they eat fish? Why would they not eat fish? We know animals eat fish, right? Yeah, right. Well, he says dinosaurs aren't good fisher men and I was really hoping to cut to like him on a fishing trip with inflatable tyrannosaurus.

You see? He hasn't caught shit. I haven't. I've just been like really bad company on the boat. He's fine fishing, but like, he don't spend all day with him. He's making too much noise and shit. Yeah. How do you have to ship again, man? Stop. You're wrecking this.

Just had done this. So just before they catch the fish, just going, man, to get the fish is attention. Not so you can breathe. And then he says like he's like, and these people believe that monkeys sailed across the Atlantic and the dinosaurs swam to Africa, but they still think that the Bible is too silly to believe. I'm like, what point do you think you just made, bro? Yeah. I was going to make a point, but then you beat me to it. So, okay. And then we cut to part four dinosaurs and man. And I like civil war terasaur here week.

So I hope we'd get there because I did not know at this point that Matt Powell did believe dinosaurs and men lived side by side like in the Flintstones. So I was hoping we'd get that and we did and I was so happy when it came up. Oh, and speaking of those fossilized arguments you were talking about from before, Mars, this is where he brings up the Mary Schweitzer discovery. Yeah. The dinosaur soft tissue. Ah, yes. The lady we murdered for finding all that fresh, fresh,

time-sour blood. And they used this clip from the first 60 minutes special about her discovery, which is in like 1945. And it might as well be watched through a fucking pinnip for. And he's trying to do it at a contact. So it's like, you discovered soft tissue in dinosaur bones. Yes. And they were mad at you.

And what they don't point out is that Mary Schweitzer was a young earth creationist until she made this discovery. And this was the evidence that persuaded her that Matt Powell was wrong. I didn't know that. That's awesome. She wants. Oh, Jesus. And look, so they're saying, like, well, this is soft issue. It couldn't possibly be puzzles. Therefore,, dinosaurs died in Noah's blood. And it's just what? It's just what? It's just 44 hundred year old dinosaur meat. Then it would still have to fossilize you fucking idiots. Yeah,401 years. Years. Uh, and he's trying to explain it to his half empty room slash church.

Yeah, he's like, no, no, no, if you put dinosaur meat in a jar, it would rot. And even if the jar was in a jar that was in a jar, now I know what you're thinking. What if that jar was in a jar. Now, I know what you're thinking. What if that jar was in another jar? They actually haven't done it. Oh, God. And Christ is not ready to do it. And the thing is what they're doing here is saying, you know, this one piece of information disagrees with previously held beliefs about fossil preservation. Therefore, we throw out all of fossils, all of evolution, and we therefore have to accept Noah's flood, despite

there being absolutely no evidence for that. Right. And the thing is, that's what conspiracy theorists do all the time, but Matt Powell is doing it deliberately. Yeah. Like conspiracy theorists don't even often realize they're doing that. Matt Powell must know he's doing that. He's doing it deliberately.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, there's a point out here where he says, you know, because what actually happened is we discovered, like you said, that soft issues preserve and can fossilize under certain conditions, et cetera, et cetera. And so we just updated our models on what can and can't fossilize and what we can and can't find.

But then they're trying to make this point that scientists refuse to ever change their beliefs no matter what. If anything ever comes up in contradicts their belief, they just pretend it's not true. And I'm like, no, man, we actually did change our beliefs. We just didn't change the part of them you wanted us to. And here's what's so crazy about this.

When you actually Google this, it's a bunch of nerds super excited to explain how and why this works. Yeah, it's no one being like, I'll fucking kill myself if this turns out to be press their top to turkey, man. Exactly. This is my limit. The thing that they really don't understand it to the point where you, again, killed myself if this turned out to be press. Right. I'm talking to turkey, man. Exactly. This is my limit.

The thing that they really don't understand it to the point where you, again, I think they have to intentionally not understand it is that nothing excites scientists more than finding out something they thought was right is wrong. Like, that's where all the juicy science happens. Yeah. Yeah. And instead of understanding that, what Matt Powell says is, you know, scientists only accept evidence that lines up with what they've already decided is true.

Anyway, here's why this dinosaur born proved noiseless. And again, his evidence is simply that evolution is wrong. And therefore, it knows what, yeah, exactly. And raw by the way cuts in here, it's basically a surest that dinosaur DNA is pretty easy to come. You could, I could get you some dinosaur DNA by 4 p.m. I wouldn't even need a fucking fake barbass saw can, okay? I will sell it to you on my crazy blog with a...

I'm not gonna see me de-oil and a medicine that will make you immortal. Oh, and then of course we have to deal with behemoth, right? That time in the Bible where they talk about dinosaurs. Yeah, yeah, not even introduce it by saying. So here's what the Bible says about dinosaurs. Something not about dinosaurs. Right, right. Exactly. He's like, but look, almost half of the descriptors of behemoth could be attached to dinosaurs. This is a Christian documentary. So now it's time for me to not get a dick joke for 10 minutes. His truck, huh? His big, thick meaty trunk. Oh, you can run your mouth open down that trunk. It'd be far too big for you. It's powerful muscles in its loins. Probably a I guess they had really muscular lines, those broad source.

So. And by the way, okay, so I have to point this out to because this is a moment where Matt Powell thinks he's gotten a gotcha, right? But he's gotten the exact fucking opposite. He's too dumb to know it. We cut back to him with the your friendly neighborhood atheist. And the guy says, Hey man, you know, I'm in no way an expert on science. That's not a field that I know a lot about. And Matt goes like, Ah ha. Yeah. And the thing is, this scene was introduced via a court from

Romans about how fools thought they were wise. And you've just followed your own small idiocy with the thing about, you know, those people who were fooled who thought they were wise were actually fools yeah yeah exactly this has this movie become self aware of this point right and immediately after that is of the eighth years guy going like I actually don't know very much about that man. I'm not gonna speculate. I know much about everything. No, I'm not. Also, what's with the weird off-brand Atheism right he had the raging atheist which is very clearly diet coke of you now We've got your friendly atheist which is the fucking mr. bib of ham it meta

Like what is why can't he get the brand well because nobody in their right fucking mind would agree to be in his Like no offense to YFN atheist. I think actually that dude did a pretty good job. All things considered. I think the right response is to say no when Matt Powell invites you to do something like that. And I think most atheists, most people with, you know, most people who already have a bit of an audience would not bother with that shit.

Yeah, but you say nobody in their right mind would agree to go on that. And you say that after we've already heard Eli say he's desperate to be interviewed by my wife. Well, but you say nobody in their right mind would agree to go on that. And you say that after we've already heard of Eli say he's desperate to be interviewed by my mom. Well, that's true. It's always checks out. It'll check that. You let me do my marshmallow thing. Well, exactly. You do. The channel shuts down. If I have ended this so that he can get secret video of him shoving marshmallows up on Matt Powell's ass or something I would totally forgive him on this. We chat to us, man. Yeah. And we know you already got a connection. We will bring us, man. Yeah. And we know you already got a connection. We will bring the marshmallows.

You bring that. Oh, all right. So now we get part five creation versus evolution, which was also part two through four, but okay, whatever. Okay. Yeah. It's illegal. And this is where we learn it's illegal to believe the thing that they're making a movie

about. Yeah. Yeah. Evolution is the only theory protected by law. You know, go teach alternatives to gravity at flight school and see just how well that looks out. The medical schools don't even let you teach your free thought alternatives to germ theory. You're being oppressed. Well, yeah. So he says, we get it. If your theory needs to be protected by law, it's probably not a very good theory. Don't say, River, don't says, again, if your theory needs to be protected by law, it's probably not a very good theory. Don't say refer, don't say refer, don't say refer. She's... He also, we come back to him with the friendly neighborhood

atheist here and he's like, we can't create life in a lab. We've tried every possible method. One, I feel like that's a very broad use of we, that's a whole, don't feel like you did much of anything. Two, I don't think they've tried pop rocks and come. Yeah, right. So until a scientist jerks off onto pop rocks, I will remain

a neck and stick about whether or not we can create life in a lab map. All and egg, no stick. Yeah. And then of course, raw mat cuts in here to explain to us that good teaching would mean telling kids both sides of an issue and letting them decide what to believe. How are they still doing the teach both sides thing in 2021? Like that dinosaur soft tissue should have rotten by now, but even it would have outlasted that argument that I'll give it so much older.

Oh my god, look, I'm like name any subject where that would be desirable, man. Literally any fucking academic subject. Well, that's what you'd wanna do. But this is where we get Toad King again. Yeah, Toad King explains that water couldn't have resulted in life because water destroys molecules. That's why fish don't exist. What the fuck is this? That's why fish aren't.

Yeah, well, he's trying to say that DNA is destroyed by water, so DNA couldn't develop in water. It's like nobody says it developed in cells, man. Just, just, you fucking idiots. Look, again, this, like if you had any interest in knowing this shit, you would just know this shit. You would have looked it up and you would know this. Oh, of course, absolutely. Absolutely. But he said what they do is they just have a series of different men saying exactly the same thing

as if that represents consensus or strengthening your argument. Right, well, everyone, you know, four out of four people in this fucking corn field are going to be. Yeah. I was super distracted at this point of the movie because raw Matt is sitting in front

of a very nice, very high end grill. And I was just like, oh, that's a nice. I know it's not as well actually. Oh, I bet that does propane and guess. Oh, it's great. But why does he need that? He's raw Matt. Why does he need to get stuff?

He's raw Matt. Surely anybody's into rolling to get raw Matt. All right. So, and then he, so they spent a lot of time, and I have with the subject, they spent a lot of time talking about how dumb the concept of a biogenesis is. So fucking stupid. You can't make a life from not life. And I'm like, but your thing also has a biogenesis, right?

Just like the monkey still have to get to South America. Your thing also has a you get there with dust and fucking magic once. Yeah, our fucking stuff is done because of water and DNA. Right, but yours is because of a wizard. Right. So I see you've just added a wizard to a thing that's hard to understand. Right. There's another thing that Dr. Roa Matt says about it when you know, you see this when

you look under a microscope, but the thing is if you look at him, he's clearly a man that if you gave him a microscope, he'd take the lenses out and he'd use a just smoke meth. One of the reasons is not to go about it. That's your right, yeah. My notes are literally, I would love to watch Raw Matt attempt to use a microscope. And my notes are, I bet you $8,000 worth of meth

that Raw has never looked at a microscope. So, all right, but he says at that point, after he gives us his microscope wisdom, he says, you know, I go with what we can see and what we can test. And I'm like, you're the religious guy. I literally the first thing that's on your blog is that you think you can live forever raw, Matt. Dude, it's right there. So and I love how quick Raw is to add to like everything

he says he has to like close off by going, also Atheist or a bunch of stupid poopy heads. Mm. Like the whole fucking movie, he's trying to pick a fight with us in middle school. Well, can I just say, I kind of feel like we have influenced Matt there, right? It feels like Matt listened to our podcast, which we know for scientific fact is what happened.

Yeah. And he was like, okay, so they like name calling, I guess, or going, oh, Jesus, forgive me for saying this, but they're dumb, dumb, dumb, dummy faces. But if that's true, and he is listening and adapting to what you want him to be, you can really fuck with that. And you've got the space to really lead him down some dark places. Matt, Matt, we will give you a spot on vulgarity for charity, Matt. All right.

So you'll be our top donor prime. All right. So and then they're going to tell us about genetic entropy, which is a bullshit thing creation is made up so they have science words. Like seriously, Google genetic entropy, you'll get Google telling you a saloon of shit followed by 37 creationist webs. Okay, but the best part about it is they use the science of Michael Keaton's multiplicity. That's this theory is based on the part of the movie multiplicity where Michael Keaton was like, yeah, if he

clone a clone, it comes out different. Well, essentially, yeah, right. So he says that this is so fucking insane. The fucking frog accountant guy comes on and says, well, we know from the human genome project that every generation we lose one to 2% of our genetic information. We've been about 250 generations that that leaves us three percent of our less than less than two and a half percent of our DNA would remain.

If I'm right about the things I just said, we don't exist. So I don't. So I, in fairness to him, he's an excellent illustration of information being lost. So he's doing a great job of doing theory. Well, yeah, because at this point, he actually does the math himself. And he's like, so at this point, my own thing kind of disproves even my times. I guess the earth is 19 minutes old. Fuck, come back to me.

Come back. Come back. I'm sorry. I'm going to eat some flies all right well clearly they need a minute to rethink their arguments so we're gonna take another quick break but first let me give it back to you the hard so is Matt Powell listening to this toss does he have to apologize to Jesus every time we say fuck should I say say fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck just in case?

Find out the answers to other questions and less when we return for the clearly delineated conclusion of the atheist religion. Babies have 100 more bones than adults do. Hawaii moves 7.5 centimeters closer to Alaska every year. Polar bears are almost invisible to infrared cameras. You know, I'm sorry. What are you doing? Oh, hey, no, job, job security. But it's just a wait saying science trivia into our podcast is job security now. Yeah, it is. Speaking of which, a Venus is the only planet that splints clockwise.

Uranus does, too. Actually, I'm sorry. Can we go back to my last question about, you know, how? Oh, I have no idea. I just Googled Crazy Betruse Science. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. How science trivia is job security? Oh, so after this week's episode, I realized that Matt Powell makes one or several YouTube videos every time he hears a science fact that he doesn't understand or doesn't sound like it makes sense to him. And then we get to review those movies

and make fun of him. So I'm just, you know, feeding the furnace, if you will. Huh. Hey, speaking of which, did you know that stomach acid is strong enough to dissolve stainless steel? Woo, I did not, and I'm guessing neither did Matt Powell, so, you know, Chiching. Chiching indeed.

Just Google it, it's right on your phone. No can do, no, I don't know how Google works either. Oh, hi fellas, what's the matter? Hey, Marsh, Eli's gotten a little too into this week's movie. And now he just doesn't believe in anything that he finds confusing. Or mildly surprising. Yeah. What did you tell him that he found confusing that the American dental association recommends chewing sugar free gum for 20 minutes after meals? Why would they tell you to eat candy? No. For the last time, it's not candy. Quip gum can help prevent cavities and fresh and breath when shoot for 20 minutes after

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Exactly, it's too cool looking. So it's not real. And in a world where we all need to be extra safe and hygienic to click release button, means you can still share with your friends, no wrappers, hands, or hassles. Yeah, when you click it, it shoots out like a cool little pew. I mean, I mean, it doesn't, no, it doesn't do that because I don't understand how it

works. I mean, I imagine springs are involved somewhere. Yep. But here's the best part. If you go to getquip.com slash awful right now, you can get a free plastic dispenser with any refill plan. That's a free dispenser at getquip.com slash awful. That's G-E-T-Q-u-i-p.com slash

awful. You can also find the quip electric toothbrush refillable floss and more in the oral care aisle at your local Walmart quip, the good habits company. All right, Noah, we'll go to this Walmart, you speak of and see if this quip is real. Oh, guys, can I come? I've always wanted to see inside of a Walmart. No, you don't. You really don't trust me. I mean, I'm gonna buy like a TV and a big bar of peanuts from the same aisle. Okay. Yeah. And we're back for still more of this shit. This is the part where Maddox points the laws of thermodynamics to us. So you know he's gonna nail this shit to the wall. Yeah, his point here is

the first law of thermodynamics proves atheists wrong as long as you misrepresent both them and it. Yep. Yeah, I put it my nose to like, oh, I'm sorry, I assumed when the words first law of thermodynamics came up that that's what he was going to be talking about, but no, no, not really. Matt, it's a sentence. You could have thrown it up there. Right? Well, but that's the thing is could have thrown it up there all the time. Right?

Well, but that's the thing is that actually throwing up the first law of thermodynamics fucks up his point. So, and I want to point out this, because again, this is sort of Matt's MO. When he describes our things, like when he describes scientific stuff, he adds phrases like poofed into existence magically, like in a derogatory way,

in his argument that the universe literally poofed into existence magically, in a derogatory way, in his argument that the universe literally poofed into existence magically. Yeah. Like, that is literally those words are the thing that those words mean are your argument, bro. I don't understand why you keep doing that. No, but he thinks it's a really excellent argument. And we know that because he

prefaces it with this is a really excellent. Anxiety. We never really convinced that my argument is excellent. If this argument wasn't so good, where I really have proceeded it with that much science stock footage.

And then we move on. Go ahead and go to the second law of thermodynamics, which is about equilibrium, though you would never know that just by watching this movie. Yes. If chaos created the universe, how come there's so much water? Why is it? Why is the water, his example is go to example for thing there's too much of to cram into

a singularity, not the planet, the water sits on, not the much larger sun that it orbits, not all those other far bigger stars. It's the water. Why? Do you think that's because of the whole genesis thing of separating the heavens above from the heavens below and not being like a separation in the water? Do you think he's kind of saying that the water, it needs to have been there from the start? Obviously, there was water there from the start. Well, the big bank can't explain that. Well, here's God to explain it. Okay, that makes as much sense as anything I could come up with, right? Like, I was like, dude, you might just want to be using a pair of gloves as your

fucking example. But if that's a case, it kind of suggests he doesn't realize or doesn't accept that water is hydrogen and oxygen. Like water can be made from smaller stuff. And that smaller stuff could have been somewhere else. Right. No, again, like it's the clown car analogy that he likes. He actually thinks that there were tiny little traps squeezed into the singularity that popped out at the big bang apparently. Bucking old frog guy comes in, by the way to explain the second law of thermodynamics. This is what he says.

He says, the second law of thermodynamics says that you start with the complex and you get the simple. That is not at all what the second law of thermodynamics. It's not what it implies. That's not remotely. Yeah. That is what the second law of thermodynamics does, David.

It started as the second law of thermodynamics and it resulted. My. No, that is what came from his mouth was very simple. It was entirely wrong, but it was quite simple. And not equal. So there you go.

Right. No, yeah, exactly. If anybody represents entropy visually, it's this month of fire. Oh, God. And then he promises that he's going to explain the if anybody represents entropy visually, it's this motherfucker. So. Oh, God. And then he promises that he's gonna explain the fucking frog account and promises that he's gonna explain how space dust proves God's existence.

And I don't mind saying you have my fucking attention, bro. I was intrigued. I was intrigued. I was like, all right, buddy, you believe that the stars are gonna fall out of the sky any day now. But you're about to take me on a journey about how much space dust there is. Yes. His, his space dust argument, it is ludicrous because his argument was there's dust out

there. That's been held by the gravity of the sun. But if it was old, it would already have dissipated. But for the gravity of the sun, I mentioned that's already highly good. Well, but Marsh, if there was really not a god, how would Saturn's rings be so lumpy? Right. But when you say Saturn's rings are lumpy because it's young, but they are young, right? They're a hundred million years old.

Yeah. It's Saturn's full billion years old. That's that's quite young. Exactly. Because they're young. Yeah. Although this does now make me want to go to Frog guy's house and like move a lamp. And when he comes home, he's like, Oh, shit, it's been a million year. Oh, no. Everyone knows the only reason stuff moves is tried.

All right. So and then we move on to the biblical flood using the words quote God flooded the world 4400 years ago and killed every single living thing on the planet in their movie about how I should worship that dude. Yeah. All right. Let's stop talking about this crazy bullshit science. Anyways, the kangaroos, they get off the boat in the state. They hop back to Australia. Let's talk hard science. Yeah. Absolutely. Noah and his family, they get off the boat and they fuck each other's brains out. Like they're kind of into family stuff that Heath would bookmark. That's what it was like. Totally. That's the flood. And then he explains that they found fossilized monkeys clinging to vegetation wraps. So like, because of of course that's abused as evidence that the monkeys crossing the ocean

to South America could obviously be true. And he's like, but why would they be clinging to a raft if there wasn't a biblical flood? Yeah. You know, the only event in which monkeys average. This is so frustrating. When you're talking about the flood, you shouldn't bring up how monkey's got from one place to another. You just give me a... You could have gone away and no one would have noticed that your problem... Your thing still had a problem with that, but you put it right here in the middle of it.

Yeah. And Benny explains how the whale bones got to the top of the mountains. There. I was like, he thinks it's mountain climbing whales. My money is on mountain climbing whales. Well, this is where we got a raw mat, isn't it? Where raw mat says, you know, the whales, you know, they die and then the whale carcass like floats up. And raw mat says, you can just watch like these whale carcasses. You can watch on YouTube, but just a video of a whale carcass rotting.

It's not illegal. And that's a really risky thing to do, given that his audience is currently watching their movie on YouTube, because a rotting whale carcass would in a way more than the one. Yeah, that's like, wow, I can, I can get rotting whale carcass on this thing.

Fuck, why don't we click the railing? How about one click the railing? I recommend videos rotting whale carcass. Yes, please. So, okay, so I want to point out what he's saying has happened there. Okay. So depending on which of the three contradictory accounts you take out of the Bible, the flood lasted either 40 days or a hundred and fifty or I think it's 371. Anyway, one way or the other, they're saying that during that time a significant enough number of whales died and happened to like just be over mountains when that happened.

For us to be finding fossilized whales on mountains now. Yeah, and part of his argument I think is that the whales then got like eaten by the mountain crabs because all the flesh was eaten off from like mountain crabs. Because he said the flesh is eaten off from by crows, but he's going to be mountain crows, right? That's what they're being crows on the mountain.

And then he's just like, there's no other possible way for them to get on top of mountains. And I'm like, are you, what if the earth has tectonic plates in his forefoot? No other way. Okay. There is no other option mentioned in this movie. What? No one's that later. He'll be like, they say tectonic plates, and I really wanted a shot of him just smashing

two plates together. See? No way. And then, okay, so then we look at the Grand Canyon, which is great evidence for young Earth creation. Okay, his argument, no, because there are groundhog holes in the ground. There would be groundhog holes in the grand canyon. Yes.

Yeah. Why are the no animal holes at the bottom of this really, really, really, really, really deep canyon? It must have, it must be because it was caused by the flood. Right, right. I'm like, I'm afraid, I'm not, because there's a planet on top of them. I'm thinking it's, they would be pressurized. Jesus, he's literally asking him,

but he's like, why aren't there any trees now there? Like, are you asking why all things aren't fossilized? Because you know, we just talked about how whale carcasses float and get eaten by, do you need to talk to raw? I can put you in touch with raw. And I love this because he goes, but if you actually look at the world, you'll find that the layers are flat, right? Because they were all swept there at the same time by the flood. And then

he cuts the stock footage of the layers not at all in any way be flat, right? Like also, but how does that make any fucking sense? The reason there would be sedimentary layers that are different colors is because they were all laid out at the same time. What the fuck would that even mean in your argument? Well, you've got a bare mind now that as he says, the fact show that it was caused by a flood. I mean, he's in show us those facts or in any way, okay, there are some facts that I did. I didn't know. I'm not privy to all the new shit. I earned those facts. So. So and then we get to the goddamn claims. So he points

out that they found giant clam fossils on Mount Everest, which I don't even know if that's true, but but let's assume that it is.'t even know if that's true, but, but let's assume that it is. So he's arguing that, okay, I will get to what he's arguing, but, but part of his argument, the crux of his argument is that during the flood, during the time of the flood, whether that's 40 or 150 or 370 one days, giant clamp, which way or is of 600 fucking pounds Clammed their way up Mount Everest. Yep Just by little you know claiming they had turned into each other, you know This is my only shot to get up there

Bunch of dead tourists around here bunch of dead tourists around here. Also, he spends a tremendous amount of time on the fact that clams can't stay close when they die. The second it dies, it opens, they have to open. It's impossible that they don't open. But why? Why did the clams drown in the flood? in the flood. This is already not clam strong. Okay, but what I guess what he's saying is that all the sediment was for whatever reason dropped immediately on the clams all at once when the waters were with flood waters receded.

So, you know, that would be why there was no remnants of any other thing at that point. But like if you can close a dead clam with sediment, you can close it with anything heavy enough. So you could find a fossilized clam claws different tree fell on it, for example. Next time you see a dead clam, if you pinch it closed, you just disproved the big bang. That's how that works. Also, the fact that there were clams bigger than a human being, kind of weird that your god made a clam that big. Like, what was God thinking when he made a clam?

Because it's the evolution firm. We understand why things get big and small and stuff, depending on the environment. But God just like, no, I want a fucking massive clam. Like, I'm really fucking big clam. Because I can't, because I can't. All right. I meant the Japanese will hunt them to near extinction. Gonna make a shout out or damn it.

And there's one other thing here, because this is raw Matt who's talking and he ends every one of his lies with there are no other options. Yeah. And it's a tactic I am going to start adopting. Who ate the last of these M&Ms? Oh, yeah, a seagull must have flown through the window, stolen them and flown away. There are no other options. I guess it's true. Yeah. I'm the one and flown away. There are no other options. I guess it's true that, yeah. I'm the one editing this video. There are no other options. So yeah, and then we get the again,

to talk about some fossilized fucking arguments, we get the whole poly straight fossils thing about, well, how could this tree be in multiple strata? If it was just, okay, set up like a river flooding, I get it. Okay. I see now, however. At one point, do they say that trees wouldn't just stand there,

they'd move? Yes. Like they'd go get coffee if it started to start to grow. I'm like, I'm gonna find fossilized trees in the desert. And I'm like, well, there are trees in deserts, but like, how does that help you? Like in our worldview, like the earth is billion, so years old, where once there was a desert,

you know, there used to be an ocean floor, there used to be a forest or whatever. How does that help your steady state earth shit? Right? We'll go just put them that too, you know, fuck with this and stuff. But just fuck with the scientists, yeah, exactly. Yeah, see, it's a him that to, you know, fuck with this and stuff. But just fuck with the scientist. Yeah, exactly.

He's a priester. You know. All right. So, and then he points out that science has the problem of infinite regress. He does not point out that Soda's religion. So, and I love the way he tries to present this, right? So he says, because he's the most of this is done through his conversation with your friendly neighbor, Henaethiast. And he's like, all things that were created have a cause.

And therefore, if time was created, it must have been created by something out of time. I mean, that's not how cause and effect, by that argument, a domino could not knock down a domino, dude. What the fuck are you saying? Also, he's fucking up the Kalam cosmological issue. Yes, because the Kalam cosmological argument is a bad word trick, right? It doesn't work on kindergartners, right? If you're like, Hey, you know how there can't be anything

inside my closed hand. And the kindergartners like, can I see your hand? And it's like, fuck you, you atheist species. That's the verbal equivalent of the column cosmological argument. But he's just like, well, you know, science says you can't see what's inside my hand. You do it. He does it so obviously you can see, you can just see and hear the, the, the slight of rhetoric through it because like anything which comes into being except my thing must have had a start. So anything other than my thing needs to have something to have started it. The column cosmological argument is so fucking stupid because it begins with, all right, first we're going to create a category that only has the thing I'm trying to prove exists in it.

And then fuck you. And by the way, credit we're is due, your friendly neighborhood atheist catches that he's doing that because obviously this guy's coming across the column cosmological argument. And he argues this way out of it, but Matt's too dumb to realize that he has. So Matt swings all the way to our side of the argument by accident to talk about how unconsciousness can't cause consciousness. So he swung so far away that he's now saying only a domino can knock down a domino. And that domino's name is Jesus Christ. This is why we're not allowed to meet in my house.

That's why mom said I could have atheists over. so no actual quote. This is sort of his his wrap up on this point He says that's what the big bang is. It's a poof. It's an imagination Like that's not even your argument. What the fuck are you talking about? That's not even a sentence in the English language also map hell is working off of notes. Yes. Yes I would Also, Matt Powell is working off of notes. Yes. Yes. I would pay all the money I have to see Matt Powell's notes. He's just like an arrow from cause to God. Jesus, then like six pages of drawings of boobies.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. So now we're going to bring in a friend of his to run the numbers. This nine year old that shows up to do the math for us. Why do they get a child in for this? That is so weird. Neither of you put it in your notes. I thought, am I imagining that this is an actual child here? Well, the real reason is very few people still believe this dumb shit when they grow up, especially

somebody who's smart enough to do math. But this kid says, and I quote, the chances for a, this is, there is no context around this quote, right? We, we, we have not even met this person before. We just show up and he says, and I quote, the chances for a single protein, for a single protein, just one is 10 to the 164th power. What the hell could that possibly mean? There would be so much more context needed before that. Again, achieves the fucking status of sentence. But let's say that, like, let's say that we add enough information to make this

make sense. Right? The chances of protein occurring naturally in X amount of time and Y amount of space is 10 to the 164th. There's a lot of X and a lot of fucking Y. Yeah. I mean, if you think of how many atoms there are on Earth, that's something like 130 to 10 to the 45. I think I found honey milliseconds, either in 4.5 billion years. That's one times 10 to the 20

So you've got a lot of time for two things to try and come together into a thing right right exactly They cut to him like a at his little church gathering thing with the seven people scattered about it don't also together If you look it looks bigger if you spread out so any any asked him's like, who thinks that a 10 to 164th could happen by chance? That's the whole fucking word. Nobody raises their hands even though by definition, it absolutely happens one in every 10 to the 164th something. Right? So like, you're wrong people without your hands on.

I also wonder how many of those people buy a lot of tickets? Because it's not zero. There's a non-zero amount of people with a lot of ticket in their wallet being like, universe could have just won out of 10 to 100 million dollars. Stupid. Yeah, there's a non-zero amount of people in that room who have a lot of ticket. And bear in mind, there's barely a non-zero number of people in that room.

So that is quite a high percentage. Well, look, okay. So again, and we have to point this out every time it comes up, the argument here is that proteins are too complex to exist without a creator. So there must have been an infinitely powerful being that can speak them into an existence that existed without a creator. Yeah. I did the math, by the way,

on the odds of a God existing by chance, it was 10 to the 160 fifth, sorry guys. Oh, we won by one or the remaining. Oh, no. You just broken a 10-year-old's heart Noah. No, no, no. You just crumbles up his crann picture of him and God running through a metal.

Stupid atheist. Also, what the, I honestly, most of the time I could at least tell what point Matt was trying to make. Here I could not. Why does it matter that the moon is, how is the moon getting farther away a reputation of evolution? Oh, I found this all very, very confusing. He was, he's arguing that we need to give it more

time to prove that we exist. I don't know, he was saying like the sun's going to get smaller in the future and therefore we couldn't have previously evolved, which is a bit like saying my coffee is going to go cold in the future. Therefore, it could never have been hot. I don't know what he's trying to say. It's so strange. Yeah, I literally could not puzzle out what he even thought that he was saying here. And bear in mind, this film was made during the pandemic, I think, and it was released into the world at roughly the same time as several COVID variants emerged. And given his views on evolution, I'd love to know what power things a virus variant is.

Yeah. This was December 2020. So this is roundabout exactly the same time we got a few of those knocking about. Well, and if you think about it according to frog account, it should only take 250 generations for all of its genetic material to be lost anyway, right? Yeah. So we should, yeah, the rate it's reproducing, this should have been over a long time ago. Yeah, with it. You got to wonder if that frog accountant was advising Trump. You got to wonder if that frog accountant was advising Trump. It cuts over to an interview with the COVID virus. Well, it's the thing that you got to understand about France's cranks.

You really can't. Yeah. And there is no other option. Yeah. No. All right. So, and then we get a quote from a second Peter that shows us how making fun of religion actually proves that his religion is right because it said we would in his book. Yeah. It's a quote that decries scuffing in a film that has been 80% scoff.

Yes, exactly. Scoff has been almost all they've done. Well, immediately after they say you shouldn't scoff, Ross shows up to talk about how we hate him so much because we're all such stupid poop for brain jerks, right? Yeah. And he's yelling and renting with the energy of somebody who's explaining how actually it's his ex-wise fault that he got that DUI after all. That's the energy he's got for them. He's screaming like, why are you so mad? Why are you so mad at us? And I'm like, dude, it's because you look like Skeletor's misleading Tinder picture.

But that's... Oh, and then of course, this is where Matt and Rodgs point to us that you can't trust evolution is because they changed their mind every time they learn new stuff, but Christians have literally never learned a new thing. And that's how you know we're right. Yep. Oh, and his whole rant here, it just goes on for so, so long. And it's like a one point saying, and you know that Rockefeller funded the education system

and I thought, wow wow that came out of nowhere And yet it was somehow inevitable, so I like his example of teachers here He's like teachers are like, oh you can put whatever you want on a test And I'm like, well, that's not a good teacher and he's like no a good teacher would just ask you a question And then you can just say whatever the fuck you want and they're not there and you're in a YouTube video And you sell a bunch of weird shit on your blog that no one visits and that's the best teacher Okay, so yeah, so the argument that he actually makes here

This is so bizarre is that in any subject other than evolution the teacher so like you write just whatever answer You want you get to look at any book you want decide what the answer is that's literally what he's saying It's like not only have you never taken a test, you've never been told what a test is. Clearly. Yeah. And then he talks about all the different subjects and how like, you get introduced to these subjects and they're true. Cause like, in maths, you're doing maths and so maths must be true. And then in English, he says, you know, it must be true. Because everyone's speaking English. That's not really what an English class is, it's cool. But also, what language are they speaking in Maths, Matt?

It's not just your English class, they were speaking English in Maths. Today in English class, we'll be proving the existence of English and we're done. We're very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I wrote in my notes like math, the gateway drug to biology. Also, he's in the middle of his rant at one point and he goes, you know, it's just evolution, evolution, a baby evolves into an adult. Grass evolves into corn and I'm like, no, no, buddy, come on back, come on back. I don't even know how he'd think grass evolves into corn. Like, I don't even know how he'd think grass evolves into corn. Like, I don't even know what he's thinking there.

He seems to be babies evolving to adults. And I just roll out, imagine thinking that this incoherent, deranged rant was a good way to end your movie. Because this is like, near the climax of your movie. And you think, yeah, I'm going to leave eight minutes of this in. This is gold. Yeah. He goes, we've made a generation of people ingrained into thinking one way.

And I just wrote in my notes, okay, religion. Yeah, right. Okay. Well, and he's like, you know, he's like, they're so indoctrinated that when I point out that evolution isn't true, they act like I'm on crack. And I'm like, dude, nobody thinks you're on crack. It's clearly meth, okay?

It's obviously, you couldn't really afford it. Super strength. You crack. Now, I's clearly meth, okay? It's obviously, you couldn't really afford it. Super strength. You crack. Now, I gotta be honest, I was like hesitant to make fun of this guy too much because I think there's a brain surgery scar that's visible above his left ear there and I did, like, so I don't know how much, like, maybe he was a very different person before that, I don't know. But I did learn that want to punch somebody in their brain surgery scar as an emotional state during this.

I didn't know that before and I'm very disturbed to find out that that's in me somewhere. Yeah, also, if we're gonna like draw the line at making fun of people with brain damage, we're gonna have to cut this whole fucking episode. No, I mean, we got Matt Powell, we got copy McAsteroy, this is not good. Oh, okay. And I love, at this point, he goes for an analogy and he can't get there, right? So he does the whole thing where he's like, our model is so good now that it's so good.

Good. That creationist model has never been seen before and that model is intelligent design. That is creationally designed design, something model. So even 20 years ago, our model wasn't as good as it is now, because now it's on YouTube, but like anybody can find it, before we have to like shout out to it in the street and stuff.

Yeah. So, and since there's still like a solid four and a half minutes of runtime, they go ahead and squeeze in the purpose of life real quick. So, you know, if you ask atheists what the meaning of life is, they will not say supplicating myself before a vengeful space monarch with superpowers and a shit temper must suck for them, huh? Yeah, they just make up their own meaning of life.

Luckily for me, I've got one that's given to me by a 2000 year old book that doesn't know about germs and actually bears very little relevance on my life because the thing that takes place after it is infinite. And based on thought crimes, but those motherfuckers are like kindness helping others bunches shit. And the things he says, you know, atheists have to make their own life up and that's just make believe because they're making their own purpose up.

Is that pretending there's an invisible omniscient being who has a special plan for you? That's make believe that is almost definitionally make believe. Yeah. Right. Also like the nine year old cuts in here at one point he goes, you know, if atheism is so good, then why is it the least religious places on earth are all so sad? Now, I just, I only bring that up because that's exactly the opposite of the truth. Right, of the 10 happiest countries on earth,

five are also on the list of the 10 least religious, and the other five are like between 11 and 40 on the least religious, like there is an absolute correlation between happiness and lack of religion. Now, the causality goes the other way, right? The idea is that the happier you are, the less you need religion. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But one way or the other, his fucking idea that not having religion makes you unhappy is absolutely disproven by the numbers. Yeah. And he seems to think that like, if you don't know know God exists you have no grasp of reality and therefore kill yourself You're just like I don't know this that's weird that is such a because he leaps to like if you can't be sure something exists It must be evil and therefore you realize you are evil and therefore you should kill yourself Right, and I feel like he's like repeating an argument that he's only half remembered which you know Yes, fine. You're a child, but this is the climax of the movie. They left that in him him trying to repeat an argument that he's only half remembered, which you know, yes, fine, you're a child, but this is the climax of the movie.

They left that in him, him trying to repeat an argument. He can't quite remember. He's left in as the climax. It's like they don't know that like the words before and after they're for are supposed to be related to each other. It's so fucking weird because I think what happened is that this kid made this argument, Matt just is not bright enough to realize that he's just saying things that make no goddamn sense. That you cause he's just like, if there's no God, how do I know this wall?

It's just, how do I know this lamp exists? So I must be evil. What the fuck? Like none of that follow. To be fair though, if you're using Matt Power Logic, that's fucking sound shit. Oh, okay. All right. Matt Powell does not know that lamps exist. If you're using mat power logic, that's fucking sound shit. Oh, okay. All right.

Matt Powell does not know that lamps exist in my subconscious. The second law of thermodynamics. Yeah, right. So. All right. And then bedrackled though we are, we finally reached part six conclusion. Fuck you. You're not my dad.

He's yelling at it a monkey. It's just a weird intense guy yelling for a bit, like cool. Great conclusion guys, well done. Yep, yep. He says, you know, those scientists, they don't have the evidence to back it up. It's like, that's what they always say about scientists. They don't bring the evidence the way that religion does.

Jesus, he talks about there not being intermediate fossils. Yeah. And I was so excited because I thought that Bingo Square was going to left unmoxed and then right in the end, no transitional fossils, Bingo. Jesus Christ. Okay. So obviously, very quickly, the whole idea of an intermediate fossil, but Trace of Grossman's understanding of what fucking evolution is that being said, you could not ask for a more intermediate fossil than the goddamn Archaeopteryx, right? Yeah. Like, everything is intermediary to the next fucking thing, but that is so perfectly

halfway between two species that just give me a fucking break. I can't believe there's still trotting out that old conard. Anyway, I also have to point out that I love that he keeps cutting the shots of Aaron Ra, not just because of his obsession with him, but because Aaron Ra is always dressed as a problematic wizard in a Disney movie. So it's always like some guy at a chalkboard, some guy at a cockboard, go my minions, take him down some guy at a chalk shop or a bill not the science. Yeah, yeah.

And I love it. He does that while talking about how, you know, this is what happens when I bring up my arguments to atheists. But he's showing all the atheists who refuse to talk to him for this movie. Yeah, right. Exactly. When I bring up, they block me on Twitter. But anyway, but if there are other people bring up similar arguments.

Yeah. And so he's doing his whole, like, you know, he's doing his whole wrap up of like, you know, they say we're silly for believing, you know, X thing and then but we're, but there are the ones that believe why I think, right? But in order to make this work, he has to use every time he says the thing that we believe he has to add a bunch of extra adjectives like magical and and and poof into each disease, describe everything in the silliest possible way. But like just to make it sound as silly as his stuff does when you explain it in the way that they explain it. Right. Again, what point do you think you have made? For fuck's sake, at one point there was a guy who's trying

to explain, you know, the Christian trying to explain the worldview of scientists that includes the phrase and then the two slugs got married. Yeah. And does he think slugs need to be married to procreate? Is that what he thinks? Well, those looks wouldn't have him premarital sex. So we've only seen that they were married first. God wouldn't have created them if they were going to be all the lascivious like, yeah, yes. And the thing is at this point, I think he's as bored of this film as we are because this is like the last shot of the film. And they try to cut to a cartoon,

but they cut like a second too early and just cut to a blank white screen and then cut back to the pasta and then to the cartoon. And they let that in like the fuck to edit. They let that. They could just go back. Oh, hang on, we fucked up an edit there, but not they left that in. That's in there. You can see they could just go back Oh hang on, we fucked up an edit there, but not they left that in that's in there. You can see that right, Nidia? Whoops. And his his big conclusion before the credits and we do need to talk about the car. My favorite part of the movie is him and the friendly neighborhood atheist him being like,

so do you want to get some lunch later and him being like, sure, there you go. Remember someone said sure to me. Yeah, right, right. Well, and then after that's all over, he ends on the voiceover of that one, the only person in his entire movie that spoke on behalf of science going, and now I just want to remind you, I don't really know a lot about science. It's not something I have any expertise in whatsoever. And that's the end. That's it.

That's like he thought that was the big moment for him was the guy that he had brought on as a science expert saying, I'm not an expert in science. Yeah, it's like what you've done there is you failed to properly research your guests. When you done your guest book and you failed to properly research them, that's literally what you're admitting there. There you go.

And then the credits start rolling and I got the fuck out. Oh, because I had already met Paul for a while, but apparently I missed out. Yeah, I also got out. And then when I had already Matt Powell for a while, but apparently I missed out. Yeah, I also got out. And then when I went back to look at the notes before recording, I saw Eli had more notes and I had to go back and watch Matt Powell rant over the credits and I was so mad, so mad. He's very, I cannot believe anything but this Matt Powell left his mic on while he was ending this and just

included his rancid mumble you fucking y'all tell you. Say that I should make a suicidal amoeba your suicidal and me fucking you don't know primate primitive primates. It's not like podcast, Mr. you've never had the experience of watching no illusions deal with broken technology, but if it could be the narration of the Apple movie, that's how bad it is. There's a lovely line in it as well where he said, you know, they they they want to debate this all the time, but would they debate, you know, would anyone debate

the existence of Santa Claus? It's like, Matt, I spent an hour yesterday on the phone talking to a lady who thinks her magic book will give her teleportation powers. I would debate the existence of Santa if you find me someone who believes in Santa. Yes, absolutely. Clearly, you've never met Mars, dude. Come on. All right. All right. Well, okay. So Matt has fulfilled his obligatory two videos for us to make fun of for the year of 2020 That will stay well for lawsuit from us for another year, but get cracking asshole 2021 So almost a third over now and Marsha thanks again for hanging out with us today It was so nice to be able to introduce you to this little slice of American

I'm so glad I got to see it. He will have a special place in my heart forever Awesome, and well that doesn't for our review of the atheist religion that I can do for the episode just yet, because we still need a cast of line out for next week. So Eli, tell us what's on deck? When a scientist struggling to reconcile his beliefs, programs are super computer to prove or disprove

the existence of God and his stun by the results, we'll be watching the God quest show for fuck sake. Okay, so with that to let's say look forward to, we're gonna bring episode two 91 to a merciful clothes once again, a huge thanks to Mars for helping us out. Be sure to check the show notes for links on how to hear more from him. And perhaps an even huge of thanks to all the Patreon

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