God Awful Movies - 481: 2000 Mules

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

This week, we figured you might not be thinking about election related stuff enough. So we invited Jim and Mark from the Fallacious Trump podcast on to talk about what might just have been the wronges...t movie we've ever seen. == Check out Jim's book, "2000 Mules and One Big Lie: A Stubborn Conspiracy Theory", click here. Check out the Fallacious Trump podcast here: https://fallacioustrump.com/ == Come see us live in Nashville! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/god-awful-movies-live-in-nashville-tennessee-tickets-997264413707 If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/

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Starting point is 00:00:27 BidMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Did January 6th try to overthrow the government and overturn free elections and install fascism? Or was it just a slightly louder version of freedom? He actually says at one point he goes, they wanted their leaders to adjudicate these claims of election fraud. And I'm like, oh yeah, no, those pictures look like people who are out for an orderly adjudication don't they? Well, maybe the chance of adjudicate the claims of election fraud were just drowned out by the chance of hanging Mike Pence and we couldn't hit.
Starting point is 00:01:03 There you go. I knew that's where there was a reason. Godawful movies. Welcome back to the GAMCast where each week we sample another selection from Christian Cinema because we drew this short fucking straw. I'm your host, No Illusions. Heath is off this week, but sitting 900 miles to my northeast is my bad friend Eli Bosnik. Eli, how are you this fine afternoon, sir? I am ready! No, I've been waiting on this bad boy for four years! Yeah, it's been too long and also-
Starting point is 00:01:42 Giving people something to focus on besides anything else that might be happening Tuesday awfully nice of us. No, but no the fuck we're not though We're actually just gonna double down on their anxiety and to help us do that We're gonna welcome in two special guest masochists and the hosts of the fallacious Trump podcast Jim and Mark Jim Mark Welcome to God awful movies. Thank you very much. Hey, thanks for having us. Pleasure to be here. All right. So we've got a ton of shit to get to today. I believe when you guys broke down this podcast, it went on for like nine hours on your show.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So we're going to do it in considerably less here. But I still I want to take a quick second out to inform our audience about your show. So Jim, can you give us the elevator pitch? What is the fallacious Trump podcast? So we talk about politics and critical thinking each episode. We break down a different logical fallacy. We use examples from Trump because he provides all of them. And we also talk about British politics and pop culture, use those as
Starting point is 00:02:38 examples for the fallacies. And basically we try to make sense of whatever the fuck's going on in your lovely country. I was going to say we would provide you infinite fodder here in the States. You're welcome. Yeah, I imagine you'll get the same question that we get, which is, oh, you know, when we tell people, oh, we break down a new Christian movie every week, they always say like, well, aren't you going to run out eventually?
Starting point is 00:02:56 And we're like, no. They keep making them, you see. Yeah. We just did episode 160 and we've got a list still to get to. Yeah. And people say, well, Trump's not in power anymore. Surely you're going to have to fold the podcast and go, well, he's not going to stop talking bullocks.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yep. Yeah. Let's hope that ages well. Let's hope that geology stays. Yeah. So tell us, Mark, what will we be breaking down today? Okay, so we watched Dinesh D'Souza's documentary shaped Trump-looking propaganda exercise, 2000 Mules,
Starting point is 00:03:35 which is fundamentally about the underlying truth that the election fraud big lie was true after all, and anyone who says it isn't is lying. And that's true too. And we didn't look at Frank Zappa's 200 motels, which actually is much truer. Much truer, yeah, a lot more fun. It's not more reality there.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And Eli, how bad was this movie? Well, if you love the conspiracy fodder that makes up so much of our program, but you wish the research time and debunking we usually do could be replaced with a game of who stole the cookie from the cookie jar played by children. You will love this movie. Let me clarify.
Starting point is 00:04:18 So foolish. Let me clarify right now something. And I literally messaged this to Noah when he started to watch the movie. I was like, Hey, just so you know, don't waste your time because the debunking of Everything they say in this movie is they're just lying. No, they're just made that shit up Yeah, oh, this is a half truth or a misunderstood study or you know, they've actually done a lateral study since it's they are just Looking into the camera and saying things untrue. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You don't need to go to Snopes to look any of it up. Nope. It's just a waste of the click. Yeah. So is there anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best at being the worst at? I want to say best worst pixelation. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And there's a few examples so it might not be the one you're thinking of. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Dinesh does not whip out little Dinesh in this, in case that's what you're concerned about. Yeah, I'll hit upon the best worst use of the art of film editing, because it's just a kind of hack job of things that people say, let's just stick that in, in order to give it some semblance of reality reality It's like putting in brand names into a drama to kind of give it some authenticity So yeah, there is it's not gonna win an Oscar nomination for best editor. I don't think so. Yeah Probably not. All right. I was gonna go well
Starting point is 00:05:38 Actually, I was gonna go with what Eli beat me to the one I was gonna go with but but my second choice is best-worst Pseudom pseudo military data analysis facility. They clearly, they asked everyone making the movie to bring a monitor from home and everybody had to have like black screen with green letters that day. And they were just going, this is actually very uncomfortable to look at. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So fun. There's a debunking. I'll probably talk about it when we get to it in there, but there's a mistake that they make in one of their so-called computer screens that when I read it on Wikipedia, I laughed for four minutes. It's in the notes. Somebody included it in the notes. And I'm going to, like I said, I'm going to take the easy one.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I'm just take the one we were all thinking of. I'm going to go with best worst hero because the hero of this film, get ready, is Dennis Prager. So voice of reason. The hero we need. Dennis Prager. In this moment and amongst all this bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Who would you think? Here's our voice of reason. No, I had written best worst unlikely ally. And then I saw that Eli had best worst hero and I called him up and I was like, wait, who is the hero you were talking to? Like Dennis Prager, Magari. Now let me change my. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Well, we've waited way too long to get to this one. So we're going to keep the break brief. And when we come back, we'll dive into all the m mules I guess that are 2000 mules. Hey, hey man this is my spot. Eli, Eli it's me. Oh hey guys sorry about that. Why are you camped outside of Target? Yeah did the sales guy with the tribal tattoo lift his restraining order? Okay first of all his name is Chris. Second of all? No. But no, I'm camping out for Black Friday deals.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You're camping out for Black Friday deals? In the first week in November? I sure am, Mark. Gonna get a good deal on some speakers. Maybe some of those wireless earbuds everyone's always talking about? But Eli, if you want great savings on that stuff, you don't have to wait till Black Friday. You can just shop at Raycon.
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Starting point is 00:08:46 Hey, when you guys go in there, will you say hi to Chris for me? Well, I don't know, man. The judge was pretty clear about communicating with him for you. Yeah, no, that's fair. Hey, Dinesh D'Souza, my best friend. I got your text.
Starting point is 00:09:00 What's the matter? Hey, No Illusions, my best friend. Sorry to bother you, but I'm really stuck on this new movie. Oh, Dinesh, you could never bother me. For though we don't see eye to eye on much, you are still my best friend. What's the problem? So Trump lost the election, but I need to make a movie about how he didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I tried illegal dead immigrants, voter suppression, and Twitter, but none of it is sticking. People are gonna know that they just counted the votes and we lost. I see. But what about just lying? I mean, Noah, I was always going to lie. No, no, Dinesh, you misapprehend me.
Starting point is 00:09:41 What if everything is a lie? Everything? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not advising you to twist the facts or represent information dishonestly. What if you just made up whatever the fuck you wanted? Okay, but people would Google that stuff, right? Not the people who watch your movies. So you're saying I could just say whatever I want? Whatever you want buddy. Thanks Noah you're the best
Starting point is 00:10:12 friend ever. No Dinesh you're the best friend ever. I don't get it why are they best friends in this sketch? Oh cuz Noah went to a pub cafe without Eli. Oh, got it. How many more episodes are we going to hear about this? Nine. Nine. Got it. And we're back for the breakdown and we're going to open the movie with this scary glitchy Matrix Biden.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Right? They always make him seem so much more badass than he's ever been at any point. And we get this quote where he's like, you know, because it's Biden, he doesn't say any fucking thing right. He's like, we put together a voter fraud organization, cut. And they're like, see, he admitted it. He admitted it. Yes. That's it. Straight out of the horse's mouth. Yeah, exactly. He told us. Oh you let it slip again Also, I know it's just a tiny moment
Starting point is 00:11:06 But can we talk about how the election fraud media company being called Salem media group? Is a very on the nose thing. I know they're really into witch hunts It's halloween is all wrapped up in there and everything. Yeah, there you go and as we're getting our credits and everything we're seeing this like Surveillance video of ballot drop boxes. Yeah. And yet it's kind of not surveillance video because it looks like drama. It's not boring enough to be surveillance footage. Right. It's fake surveillance. Jim, can attest to that? Yeah. It's filmed from a car mostly, kind of from a passenger seat of a car, of a guy, he's an actor portraying
Starting point is 00:11:46 a mule because none of the footage they had of people that they claim are mules was suspicious looking enough. Right. So they had to make this up. You wouldn't be scared enough by it. And apparently for some reason he's using a VHS camera as well. Right, and he's got Paul Greengrass directing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. Yeah. But there isn't, disappointingly, there's no little flashing red record in the corner. Yeah, exactly. To make it look even vaguely surveillance-y. Yeah. Yeah. And also, who is this guy filming it?
Starting point is 00:12:21 And why aren't they intervening and just arresting the guy? This is like that kind of wildlife documentary, the Filmmakers Code for Wildlife Documentaries where you can film a starving polar bear, but you can't intervene. Oh, that's it. Right. That's what makes it a real documentary. Yeah. So, and I love to like, so they're showing like this guy get out of his car and he just
Starting point is 00:12:41 stuffs a bunch of ballots into the ballot box. And I wrote my notes I'm Like you guys know you can't just write Biden on slips of paper and slide them in right and it will take a really long Time for them to answer that question for me. Yes, and they don't they don't they try so hard Sweet sweet Dennis Breger as we teased later will be like, you guys know you can't just write by the end of a piece of paper and they're like, I don't know, man. Who knows what happened? It's a piece of paper.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah. Does that not cross checking involves and that kind of stuff? Has that not been going on for a century or more? Yeah. Yeah, right. Right. So, and then we get the title 2000 meals and we open up on, well, we damn near open up on the dictionary defines voting as.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yep. Right. And I love that he has to include this sort of pseudo patriotism in the beginning, right? Because look, what this documentary is at core is it's against everyone getting to vote. Yeah. Right. They trance it up and say, oh, it's vote harvesting.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And they only admit that in the last quarter of the movie. Right? What it is, is it's making, you're not allowed to vote and they got more votes than we did. So they have to cushion us at the very beginning with this fucking bald eagle flying over a voting booth and shitting out an M16 into the arms
Starting point is 00:14:04 of a blonde-eyed woman who's pregnant. To a Springsteen soundtrack. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yep, that he sued them for using, yeah. Yeah, but there's a bit of voiceover. I'm sure it must be Reagan. I think so, yeah. They play in the voiceover, but he stumbles over making this a nation of the people for the bitch like he's reading it like he doesn't believe it or something. Or like he's Reagan and he can't say a single fucking sentence in that point without tripping over it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah. Also it occurred to me there, is it actually okay to film people voting? They've got all this lovely floaty footage over the cardboard fold-out voting booths, and there's no one kind of going, hey, what are you doing? I'm covering up a paper. Well, the reason for that is that this is footage that Dinesh has reused from when he shot his film Hillary's America. He's had this still going with some cardboard voting booths.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So all these people are just actors or, you know, well, actors in the sense that they're in a film. They're not really at their film. Right, yeah. They signed up for a stock footage day. They didn't sign up to work for Dinesh D'Souza. Well, and I love because they show all these news clips going like, you know, oh, it looks like Trump is way ahead. And the movie's like, oh, whoever heard of being way ahead and still losing. And of course, I had to write in my notes
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yankees fans There's a reason Heath isn't on this episode and it's not because The Dodgers stuffed the ballot boxes with home runs overnight or whatever the fuck Happened yes that whole thing. Yeah, I'm taking the ball away now because we're winning and I go no no it's just a half time yes come back come back right also I just have to point this out because it's so funny so the very first argument of the movie is something happened overnight that's weird yeah but the rest of the movie will be about how they cheated with mail-in voting yeah but that wouldn't have changed overnight on the first night yeah this does not contribute to the mule theory.
Starting point is 00:16:07 That would have been reflected. The mail-in fraud would have been reflected on the first votes, right? So it would be like saying, we had a foot race and Dan tripped me. And then at the end, I'm like, and that's why Dan poisoned me before this race ever began. Yes! Well, that's okay. So like every conspiracy theory ever, right? There's no cohesive narrative behind what they're presenting in this movie.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It's just anomaly hunting bullshit, throwing everything against the wall, hoping that you won't notice that they never gave you a theory of the case. Yep. Right? Yeah, the first third is basically, look, the election was not secure. Therefore, whatever we say about how we reckon they did it is probably true. Exactly. And all these news clips are...
Starting point is 00:16:50 Every single one of them is taken out of context. Yeah. Well, it's so out of context that you can tell that there was like more words in that sentence. I tracked them down. I wrote a book about this movie after we talked about it. Because there was too much to debunk in our nine hours of talking about it. Think about that people. He got done with nine hours of debunking this movie and he's like, I'm really going to need a book to flesh this shit out. So I tried down every single one of these clips and they all cut off just before they say things like, but it's still early and there's lots of mail in ballots to count and
Starting point is 00:17:24 they're probably going to be from the Democrats. Like, yeah. Yeah. Jesus. But of course what Dinesh does is he plays all those clips and he goes, you know, one side claims the verifiably true thing, but the other claims the opposite. So they're tied. Right? Let's untangle that Gordian knot now. And he does say that the election haunted the American mind in 2020. Yes. And I think one of the things that haunted them a lot is the ordinary folk working in counting centers
Starting point is 00:17:53 after the polls had closed late, had to sleep at some point. Yep. Yeah. And that's it. And actually, yeah, the whole thing is ABC even told them, yeah, don't sleep because you'll wake up and things will be different.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yes. From when you went to bed. Right. Right. And I love the contrast, by the way, that we see because we first we see all the MSNBC anchors and CNN anchors saying like, oh, you know, this looks like everything is is on the up and up. And then we see like a few people like casting doubt on it.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And we go from this contrast of all of these like really well lit people that you've heard of to this Walmart security cam footage of some guy going, I saw ballots getting dropped off in the middle of the night. They make this claim once and then they never make it to Glenn. They're like, they were paying people $200 for their ballots. And I was like, man, that's a, that's a high price for the ballot. Pretty good deal, actually. Yeah, that claim comes from Project Veritas, though. Oh my god, baby!
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah. Yeah. You don't have a fetus you could throw in to sweeten the deal, do you? Just for that, they have a clip from Gateway Pundit, which is the one of the vans dropping ballots off in the middle of the night. And whereas some of the news clips they use are taken out of context, this one has been specifically re-edited to remove context. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Because, yeah, the original news report called Gateway Pudnett, a far right wing site known for spreading false information, and said that they claimed that this van was dropping off ballots eight hours after the deadline. And they just took those bits out so that it sounds more crimey. Oh, it's just CNN being like gateway pundit. Yes, Bap. Ballots in the night. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yep. But Dinesh can't move on until he knows the truth and did aligns with his lies. So and he says this is such a great fucking line He goes many other issues arise out of the 2020 election and we cut to the January 6th riots I'm like, yeah issues man Yeah, yeah the argument he's making here is like did January 6 try to overthrow the government and overturn free elections and install fascism? Or was it just a slightly louder version of freedom?
Starting point is 00:20:09 It wasn't an insurrection, it was an usurrection. He actually says at one point, he goes, they wanted their leaders to adjudicate these claims of election fraud. And I'm like, oh yeah, no, those pictures look like people who are out for an orderly adjudication, don't they? Well, maybe the chance of adjudicate the claims of election fraud would just drown out by the chance of hanging Mike Pence and we couldn't hit. Yeah. There you go. I knew that's where there was a reason. Or maybe judicate just sounds like USA. Oh, that's what they were saying. Adjudicate.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Maybe that's what they meant by Jews will not replace us. Judication will not. Right. Right. They're just doing the short version. Yeah. There you go. Maybe that's what they meant by Jews will not replace us. Judication will not replace us. But he reminds us that there were real consequences for this. After all, Trump was banned from Twitter. And I just have to remind everybody, because I know Elon Musk brought him back and we all sort of forgot about it. Twitter tried their best not to ban Trump and then he was like, yes, go my minions who
Starting point is 00:21:07 are currently inside the Capitol building. Kill as many as you can lay hands on. Tear the flesh from their bones. And the algorithm kept banning him. It wasn't even the people, they had to shut off the algorithm for his account and just be like, we're all going to make it. We're having a heads up and we're going to figure out what to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yep. Yep. But then, but Dinesh decisions like he, they banned him for the big lie, but was it a big lie? Was it a lie at all? And we all wrote in our notes. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Uh-huh. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Well, that's kind of a rule of thumb is whenever Dinesh asks a question, the answer is the variable no. So is it true that it's a he will start stuff with is it right that we can assume or is it true that or was it? Hasn't it been proven? Hasn't it been shown that? Yeah. Yeah. Does this show that? No. Any questions? No. Just move on.
Starting point is 00:22:04 If they did that, the film would be really very short. It's true, yeah. You would have a six minute episode this week, Lister. To make God off a mini. But are there legitimate questions about this election? Nope. Dennis Prager? No.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Credits start to roll up. We went and found somebody else to ask the same question. What did they say? So then we watched Dinesh D'Souza walk into his skinny little studio and look, I mean, it's more impressive than my studio, I guess. Okay. Hey, Dinesh, little protopro here, okay? We don't show them how the sausage is made.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Okay? If listeners saw out how the fucking pigsty in which I create their content covered in just random photos of my child and stuffed animals of a choom the cat, they'd either revoke or triple their Patreon page and nothing in between. Don't show us your green screen blanket from the side. Well, also, so he's trying to make it seem very professional, right? We zoom in on his mixer and there's, oh, look, there's somebody moving dials on that mixer. I'm like, why would they move dials on it now? So you're recording. Yeah. And people like the crew are saying things like sound speed and stuff like that while he's walking into the room.
Starting point is 00:23:25 While he's walking in he's taking off his jacket. Yes! So, and then with all of that he sits down and he goes, he has like the worst intro to a podcast ever. He's like, well, so this is the, I guess, season one, episode one of my new podcast. I'm like, oh, fuck off. Get out of my business, man. We get a shot of his wife sitting at the desk, Debbie, who looks concerned as he says that,
Starting point is 00:23:54 season one episode one, because I think her concern is, well, why is he worrying about is this getting picked up for a second season? Because, you know, it's been greenlit already as it turns out by sale of media so why is he saying season one episode one? He just said the first episode, like he's gonna have a break at the end of the season, there'll be a cliffhanger. Yeah exactly! He'll kill off some of the main characters.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Now to be clear, how good would it be if at the end of season one Broadchurch just turns a corner and shoots Dinesh in the chest? I'd watch the shit out of that, right? Yeah, yeah. My new favorite podcast. Let's call Tennant. He's not busy, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And then from there, so we learned he tried to start his podcast, but YouTube banned him for just asking questions about the LA. Except they didn't. He made a whole fucking movie about the just asking questions thing and he's still on YouTube. Yeah, he's not banned. I think the terms of service at YouTube are a bit less draconian than simply asking questions. Otherwise, Tucker Carlson wouldn't be on there at all.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And then we see the most explodable of all the rooms in all of history. So Dinesh D'Souza, by the way, my grammar check keeps trying to turn explotable into exploitable and I'm like, no, you're not wrong. Yeah, go for it, go with that. Oh yeah, so, but this room contains Dinesh D'Souza along with such luminaries as Larry Elder, Dennis Prager, Eric Metaxas, Sebastian Gorka and like the afterthought that his face was to his head, Charlie fucking Kirk. Charlie is so excited to be there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Oh yeah. Because I'm on the same show as No Illusions, occasionally they put me in rooms full of smart people. This is what's happening to Charlie Kirk right now. Right? And I bet he's ruining the day that he decided, oh no, I should have worn proper shoes. These people are here. They're properly dressed up.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I mean- That's because he's cool. It's because he's here. Eric Metaxas is wearing... I've got a question. Can you, Eric, wear super slim fit green pants with a double breasted black blazer and matching Pongka Hanchi? That's a great question. And a blue stripy shirt?
Starting point is 00:26:14 You know, we've got to believe, he's leading us to believe that he's seen the light. Yeah. And clearly he's got dressed in the dark. Eric Metaxas looks like a pimp for carpets. He's sex trafficking the carpets. You fuck them and somehow the carpets don't want it. That's all I know about his job. But he does though.
Starting point is 00:26:38 All these guys are Salem media radio hosts. They have national syndicated Salem shows. And that's why they're in this because Salem put out the money for the film. Oh, it's like, no, you have to include these people. Gotcha. This is like a cross promotion thing. Yeah, that's why they spend like a third of this film listening to what these guys think about the election and later on this film itself. This film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Okay. So that explains the big fucking question to me, which is why the fuck they left Dennis Prager in the movie, even though he spends the whole goddamn thing going, you guys are too full of shit even for me. You guys are idiots. Yeah. And this is where that begins, right? This is where Dennis Prager comes in and he's like,
Starting point is 00:27:23 well, this is fucking dumb. This is not at all convincing what you guys are saying right yes because look this is the opener right and to be fair all the other idiots in the room blow it because the construction of this scene should be I'm not sure I've seen some things that trouble me oh I'm worried and then they're convinced by the end of the movie but because these are idiot con men they open on all being like, yep, totally stole the election. With the exception of Dennis Prager, who's like, you guys are fucking idiots. The thing is, he's just the best at it. Like Gawker is like, no, I don't know what you're
Starting point is 00:27:57 talking about. It was definitely stolen. But Prager says he's agnostic about it, but he's not. He's just better at pretending he is. He wrote a blog post like in January 2021 saying that the Democrats definitely cheated. I'm just not sure whether it was enough to tip the election in their favor. That's the only thing he's agnostic about. Yeah. And it's illegal, bad guy shit. That's what Dennis does, right? He shows up and he just asks questions that imply bad, horrible ideas, and then we give him millions of dollars and no consequences and hurt his grandkids, change their name
Starting point is 00:28:33 to Frager when they go to high school and nobody knows the fucking difference. That's how being an evil person works. Only Charlie Kirk is the one who shows up and is like, Hi everybody, I'm on a hunt for kitty litter in the bathroom. And we're like, well no, you can actually see on camera there's not. And he's like, yes there is, I see it. Well, but it's not just Charlie Kirk though, it's everyone except Dennis Prager. Right, like you're saying, so Sebastian Gorka comes in and he goes,
Starting point is 00:29:01 Well, you know, I for one can't believe that a guy for the campaign from his basement got more votes than Obama. And I'm like, well, to be fair, Obama wasn't running against the platonic concept of incompetence though, right? Like they just, they keep saying shit like that, that where it's all predicated on this. Well, you know, if our guy wasn't the most incompetent human being ever to run for a major fucking party in any goddamn history of any fucking major election in the world this would make no sense and I'm like yes you're right hey guys real quick I'm just planning out our questions should we all ask out loud in our documentary what we would have done in 1940s Germany do you think we should do a quick roundtable. Let's do that. Let's do that. Yeah. Yeah. Charlie is so confused at
Starting point is 00:29:46 this question because he knows. Charlie's a fucking on brand boy, right? He's getting all the answers. His hand shoots up into the air every time. Stolen election, trans kids. And then Dinesh is like, I mean, if we had been in 1940s Germany and he's like, Ooh, is that I, I thought we weren't supposed to tell people what we were doing about that tonight. Yeah, well, because that's like Sebastian Gorka is like, well, if I believed that Trump was as evil as they believe, I would steal an election. And I'm like, that's what you're trying to do now, man.
Starting point is 00:30:18 We know, right? You're just so incompetent. You're trying to do it in reverse. Yeah. The fact they don't care about election integrity isn't the slam dunk argument they think it is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And again, this is the fucking phenomenal thing because they're all patting each other on the back, right? Oh yeah, this is totally a thing Democrats do. And Dennis Prager, having not been given whatever pill he needed before this, just goes, okay, so why didn't they cheat in Virginia then? Why didn't they cheat in other states? And they're like, because it's a bad end. Right, right, why didn't they cheat
Starting point is 00:30:52 to get themselves to Senate? Because, right, why did they lose the fucking Senate? And again, this will never be explained by his idiot fucking theory, right? Because we would have to believe that the fucking election mules that the ballot mules Split their votes. Yeah So fucking funny, it's so good also this is great moment where they're all like, oh well
Starting point is 00:31:16 You know the reason politicians aren't talking about this is because they're all afraid Yeah, and they're all the elites and Dennis Prager's like, or maybe they want to keep their jobs, you absolute fucking idiot. He's just as annoying. I'm in a room with you. That's what happens when you say that stuff. You end up in this room with Charlie. Charlie, I swear to God, if you take another piece of candy out of your pocket,
Starting point is 00:31:37 I'm going to beat you to death with my bare hands. You must stop eating candy. Are those loose nerds in your pocket? Okay. You must stop eating candy. Are those loose nerds in your pocket? Okay, we have to point out that Charlie Kirk is way echo-ier than everybody else. Which leads me to believe that Charlie Kirk like muscled his way, like he saw everybody get into the elevator.
Starting point is 00:31:57 He's like, what are we doing upstairs guys? And they didn't have a microphone from like hearing him through Gorka's microphone or something. Yeah, they had a microphone and they were like, oh, Charlie, we'd love to have you, but we don't have one. He was like, no problem. I'll just yell. And they were like, Oh, I think they had a boom guy and he was just not prepared to go near Charlie Kirk. That was like, Hey, man, I've worked on a couple of these steps before.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm just letting you know, if you run a microphone up Charlie's shirt, he's going to come. Hey, man, I've worked on a couple of these steps before. I'm just letting you know if you run a microphone up Charlie's shirt, he's going to come. Just letting you know. You're destroying one of our lobs if you do that today. So and then I love this contrast, right? Because we get we go from Dennis Prager basically saying, y'all are a bunch of fucking idiots to Dinesh D'Souza at home talking to his wife. So it plays like, you know, he got told off by Dennis Prager and now needs a more sympathetic audience. Right? So that's when I said to Dennis and I was
Starting point is 00:32:57 very convincing and he was very This staging choice he's made to like do slice of life intros to the various moments of this documentary is so bizarre. They do like they do a bunch of like, should we call a very close personal friend, Catherine? Oh my goodness, you know, we're having lunch so many times a month, I suppose now you could just call her up on the phone. I do have a phone number. Why don't I call her on the phone?
Starting point is 00:33:22 Just think she might be there. Oh, I don't know. It's a movie. She's going to answer straight away. It would be pretty awkward if she was. She doesn't. Or she just picks up and she's like, Dinesh, I told you never to call. Camera. So, fun fact. This is not their house. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:33:43 The exterior establishing shot is also not their house. That's stock footage. I mean, I'm sure they have a lovely house, but they're like, no, you know, this is a documentary. We don't want anything to be authentic. Well, I was wondering, I was like, I'm glad you said that because I was like, why is it that every time we see him, it's in this kitchen, right? We only had like, he works in that kitchen, Him and his wife hang out in the kitchen, right?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Because we cut to him and they're just sitting there in the kitchen having this conversation where he's like, well, you know, if you think about it, the Democrats have a long history of voter fraud, like Tammany Hall, for example. He goes back to the 1790s for his example. Yeah. He makes up a fake example. He's like, JFK stole the election. They're like, what? And he's like, never mind. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It was rumored to have... Also, I have to tell you, I just kept expecting the camera to, because it's so obviously a set, I kept expecting the camera to pan over to two porn actors who were like, he was supposed to start fucking me in the ass at three. Okay? It's 2.55.
Starting point is 00:34:45 You guys are going to have to finish this shoot over the sound of him penetrating me rectally, just so you know. Well, they look across at Dinesh and go, oh, the fluff has arrived. Yeah, right. The guy's like, it's not going to work. Yeah, it's not going to work. Not today. No, you can fluff all you like, man.
Starting point is 00:35:04 The thing I can't figure out is why is Debbie in the film? I don't know. Bring your wife to work day. Hey, Mark, Mark, you married man? That's why Debbie's in the film. That's it. Well, she's also on the credit as written and directed by. Sure is.
Starting point is 00:35:22 She sure is. Debbie walked in while he was writing and she was like, am I in the movie? And Dinesh was like, of course. Her LinkedIn says, this is true, her LinkedIn says that her latest job is helping her husband with movies. Amazing. That is her thing. Man, there you go.
Starting point is 00:35:37 So yes, but this is where she suggests that they call their good friend, Catherine Engelbrecht, founder of True the Vote. And she basically says that, why don't we call our good friend Catherine Engelbrecht, founder of True the Vote. And she basically says that, why don't we call our good friend, Catherine Engelbrecht, founder of True the Vote, right? Sure, let me use my telephone. Who happens to be, who happens to have done the research for the movie?
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yes, right. Right, right. Yeah. Oh, it's a good thing, because the rest of this was just going to be what we ate for brunch. Right, yeah. But luckily-
Starting point is 00:36:03 I was hanging out in this porn kitchen. It's phone call kitchen in the house. It's an hours. Right. So to give you an idea of who Catherine Engelbrecht is, do you remember season seven of Buffy when they had the Uber vampire who was like in charge, like stronger and leader of all the other vampires? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yes. Catherine Engelbrecht is that, but for Karen's. She actually shits expired coupons. Basically Obama was elected and she asked to see the manager of America. The thing that's so funny about Katherine Engelbrecht is that she is just the person who thought of this conspiracy theory too early. Right? She thought of it in 2008 before the internet destroyed most of America's brains. So she was like, I think the election was fake and everyone was like, shut up. And then by the 2020 we were like, the Twitter box
Starting point is 00:36:53 said they don't vaccinate my trance. And she was like, Oh, my time has come. Well, and so, and she says to the phone, she's like, well, you know, we're working on something. It's a little too big to talk about over the phone. And I'm like, is it the title of the fucking movie? So then she talks about it at great length. Yes. Once we get the footage of them driving to a facility. Yes, go to a shipyard like they're about to buy the McGuffin or some shit.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Right? Yes. And I think it's all shot with the same is the's the same point of view, stalker cameraman from the opening sequence. He's hiding behind bushes and stuff. Hiding behind things and sneaking out. He's been in the back seat of their car ever since he was filming Voters. Stuffing ballots. All right. All right. So they're going to meet this guy, Greg Phillips. And all we learn about him at this moment anyway is that he has a background in quote, election intelligence, and he's got some news for Dinesh.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So with our assurance that what they've got from him is at least as stupid as you were hoping it was, we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be back in a flash with even more of 2,000 meals. I guess approximately 1,320 meals worth actually with even more of 2000 meals. I guess approximately 1,320 meals worth actually, if you do the math. So it's like a flap? Well, it's more of a cap than a flap.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, interesting. Oh, oh, Mark and Jim, fantastic. Ta-da! Oh, Eli, you didn't have to get us anything. No, no, I wanted to thank you guys for coming on the show, so I got you just a little something. Oh, it's some cheap plastic crap. Yep. Yeah, you're welcome.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Can I ask why you got us cheap plastic crap? Oh, well, you know, gift buying is hard and big shopping websites sent me this by APM, so I figured it's good. Look, Eli, if you're looking for a great gift idea and you want to support an independent company, why don't you try Uncommon Goods? What? Uncommon Goods. When you shop at Uncommon Goods, you're supporting artists and small independent businesses.
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Starting point is 00:39:45 Alright, everyone, let's circle up for one last meeting of the vote harvest and mules for the 2020 election. Hooray! Yeah. Right, so as you know, all 2,000 of us... 54,000. Oh, 54,000 by the end of the movie. Thank you. Yeah. Anyway, we were all on board with this plan,
Starting point is 00:40:09 and we executed tens of thousands of illegal votes. Hundreds of thousands? Well, yeah, no, almost a million without telling anyone we shouldn't, or getting drunk, or getting caught. Really, it's an amazing job, everyone. It's really truly a physically impossible task that we've done here and I'm so proud of you all. We're proud of you man.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah, thank you. Yes, I did choreograph this national effort to steal almost a million votes without making any mistakes or getting caught a single time. Now, we weren't going to tell you guys this, but for the amazing work that you all did, George Soros is taking us all to Chili's. Hooray! Amazing! Alright, so why don't we head over there now? Does everybody know which car they're riding in?
Starting point is 00:40:58 We'll all intuit it and none of us will make any mistakes. That's my team. Hey, podcast listener. None of us will make any mistakes! That's my team. Heh. Hahaha! Hey, podcast listener, I'm Jim. And I'm Mark. You know, as people outside of the United States, we don't live with the great privilege to see a live show that you folks do in the US to... Really like privilege?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Just read the lines, man! Okay. Oh, how we long for the honor, nay, the solemn duty to attend a live show like our compatriots in the U.S. But alas, we do not live in Nashville, Tennessee and cannot attend Godawful Movies Live on December 7th. It's true. You can't.
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Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah, just please stop doing notes. Got it. And we're back for more of this shit. We're going to rejoin the action with Catherine and Greg taking Dinesh and fucking Dinesha to my best worst, which is their impressively black and metallic basement looking warehouse that they're going to get most of the rest of the movie in.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Fun fact, this is not True The Votes office. Oh no! Don't say! This is a studio called Epic Man Cave in Texas. Oh, excellent. Oh my fucking god! epic man cave in Texas. Please tell me they do like party rentals and this is the first time they haven't hosted like a fucking Call of Duty 40th birthday. Right, exactly that's what this room is for. This room is for a bunch of fucking
Starting point is 00:43:01 people to play Call of Duty in and take it way too goddamn serious. Yeah, I mean, I would LAN party the fuck out of this space. I don't want to hold this against man cave. That might explain the jackets and it must be very cold in there because everybody seems to be wearing outdoor jackets. Yes, sitting at the computers, wearing outdoor clothes. And I guess the budget blew any chance of heaters, because I'm talking about the stock footage,
Starting point is 00:43:31 because all the maps, the stock footage. Well, it's in Texas, so maybe the power was out. Their power grid is not really reliable. So Dinesh says to this guy, this is Greg Phillips, and he's, Dinesh says to Greg, he goes, so what's your background? And Greg says, well, I've been in and around election intelligence for about 40 years. And I'm like, that is nothing. You have told me nothing. So have I, man. In and around? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:57 So it's going to, it's going to save a lot of time from this point in, if just any time anyone in the movie says a thing, just imagine me saying, that's not true. None of it. This is where I sent the warning to Noah because every time they'd make a claim, they'd be like, we have the largest store of election information. And I was like, okay, let me fact check that. And I'm on my Google trying to learn. And it's just no, they're just saying words that aren't true. The government has that.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yes, of course. Yes. But just everything. Everything they say is just a lie. It's just a straight up lie. Or it's really general. So, for example, Greg does not have 40 years of election experience in any way at all. He was a stockbroker for a while. He didn't even graduate from college like 40 years before this interview. Yeah, right. No, he's like 52 or something. So he started working in election intelligence when he was 12.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah. So, but the big bit of experience he does have is he was the guy who claimed that three million non-citizens voted in 2016. Which is what made Trump to continually claim that he won the popular vote if you delete all of the people who voted illegally. Right. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Awesome. I've made up some pretty important lies. Maybe you've heard of me. Yeah. So yeah, so but they're sitting around there. There's also this great moment where like, you know, they're talking to Catherine about True the Vote and they show like, you know, she's been on TV. She's pretty important.
Starting point is 00:45:27 She's been on C-SPAN 3. Maybe you've heard of it. Maybe you heard of me testifying before Congress, like such illustrious people as comedian Dave Attell and Andy Ngo about the threat of Antifa. And don't you say we're going to let the data tell the tale? And of course, when it didn't, they just made up a tale entirely that didn't draw on any of the data. Stupid data wouldn't lie for us.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah. So we're going to have to make one up. Yeah. And the first case of election fraud that they're going to talk about is a person who was Republican. They don't mention that, but the way they get around that and again, really correct me if I'm wrong on this, the way they get around that and they're like, so this guy in North Carolina was harvesting votes.
Starting point is 00:46:14 He, well, he worked with a lot of black people. Yes. Okay. Larry Urban, very inside New York. He learned it from watching the liberals. Yes. Yep. Very inside New York. He learned it from watching the liberals. Yes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So if you think about it, the black people did the crime because they spent, they rubbed off on him. And they have to sort of like, they have to address this because, because Catherine is pretending that her organization is nonpartisan, right? That's a big part of it. Like, oh, we're just a nonpartisan election organization that's just looking into the integrity of the elections. We don't have a dog in this race.
Starting point is 00:46:47 So Dinesh has to be like, all right, so there's a lot of like actual verifiable well-known election interference in 2016 with the Russian bots and everything, and your organization never said a fucking thing about that. So do you want to address that now? Right? And she's like, yeah, we were looking at different types of voter fraud and like which types and she's like black. The stuff that isn't us. Right yeah the stuff we weren't doing. Yeah. The way she excuses herself as she said she wanted a way to prove the
Starting point is 00:47:18 election was fraudulent in a way that was more provable and I wrote my notes I bet she's not gonna do that. No. And no she won't. She will not. Yeah they came up with a way that was more provable. And I wrote in my notes, I bet she's not going to do that. And no, she won't. She will not. Yeah, they came up with a way. They looked for a way that the election could have been stolen, that they could track. Yes. So not like the way it was done, but a way that they could prove using their method.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And it just turns out that was the way they did it. Yes. What are the odds? So weird that all those nails turned out to need a hammer How amazing would it be though if they were just like yes We spent millions of dollars on this harvested data and just weren't fucking idiots. We were Okay, so they're gonna explain to us the the crux of their argument, but they're gonna get there in a stupid fucking way I'm so excited to hear the crux of their
Starting point is 00:48:04 But they're gonna get there in a stupid fucking way. I'm so excited to hear the crooks of their Please so they start off by telling us about geo tracking just in general how you can be like by data of where people have Like, you know depersonalized data of where people have bet right and Dinesh introduces this by asking Greg. What is Geo tracking Geo tracking. He totally does, doesn't he? He's on the board, yeah, he's on the board. God damn it. Damn it. He goes, oh yeah, no, we know all about
Starting point is 00:48:32 geotracking. We were in the Apple store the other day and on like a fucking course you were, Dinesh. I knew you were. They do this stupid thing where they're trying to yes and they're like, we were at CVS and we were getting coupons. It said that we were coupons and i guarantee you they were in the fucking cvs app yes these yeah clown shoes idiots were like how does it know get out of my head mark walberg
Starting point is 00:48:57 when you sign up to the in-store wi-fi yes consent to getting your notifications yeah how does it know where i was how did they know where I was? How did they know we were here? Tell me what I'm thinking right now. So yeah, so and then they're like, you know, this geo tracking data, that's actually how they found a bunch of the January 6th rioters. They might as well say, so you know, leave your fucking phone at the hotel by a burner, you dumb asses. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And a reminder that the way they found most of the January 6 rioters is that they fucking filmed themselves doing their projects. Yes right they just looked on the cameras and they were like well there's one right there. Hey everybody it's me it's me Greg from Greg overthrows the government don't forget to like and subscribe. How could they possibly track him down that quickly? It's impossible. But how did they identify them from the video? I mean, for example, like Derek Evans, the guy who was a member of the West Virginia House of Delicates, when he live streamed his crime on Facebook, he yells, Derek Evans is in the Capitol. See if you can follow my clues, Mr. Policeman.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Right. Unless they were spying on Derek Evans beforehand, how would they have known within 72 hours? How could they possibly know? This whole argument makes no fucking sense because they're trying to say like, well, you know, they would have had to been tracking those rioters even beforehand for them to find them so quickly. And then we're like, oh really? How quickly?
Starting point is 00:50:23 They're like 72 hours. 72 hours? They're like, yeah, well, you'd have to find the phone and then you'd have to track the data. And I'm like, that's the same thing. Right? You just said the same thing twice. Then you have to figure out whose phone it is. Well, that happens automatically when you find the phone. You have to save the data to your desktop. And then you have to go to your downloads folder. It folder and then it's not there. You have to check the file name. You have to open it.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Then you get distracted. You watch a few TikToks. And you accidentally clicked on a different app than unarchiver. So now that's the deal. So you have to right click and then use a new app now. How could you do that in 72 hours? 72 hours! It's impossible! But the thing is they didn't even do that. No! They didn't!
Starting point is 00:51:13 I tracked down all of the people who were arrested in the first 72 hours. And they were all people who were either arrested on the scene, or who gave their name to reporters or yelled it on Facebook or people who the FBI got tipped off by ex-wives and people they hated. It was all that kind of stuff. Google didn't even hand over the geolocation data that they requested until May. So they didn't use any geolocation data to track people for the first few months after the January 6th. Amazing, amazing the extent of the lying here.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And then they go like, you know, that geotracking that they used to track down American citizens, that's the same way they got Bin Laden. So they're treating American citizens just like they treated Bin Laden. In that there was a place involved? Yes, exactly. Yeah, geographically speaking, yeah. Yeah, right, Yes, exactly. Geographically speaking, yeah. Yeah, right, right. So, but then after explaining,
Starting point is 00:52:10 like spending all this time talking about how geotracking is evil, they're like, anyway, so we used it. And now here's the crux of their argument. And this is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever seen in my life. I had no idea that this is what the 2000 mules thing was going into this, right? So they bought a bunch of cell phone
Starting point is 00:52:27 tracking data and they tracked where people had been, anonymized data, they tracked where people had been and then they highlighted anyone who had visited more than 10 or had been, you know, because it's like geo tracking data like can get you within a, you know, 10 feet or whatever, 8 feet or whatever. 16 is the best case scenario. 16 is the best case scenario. 16 is the best case scenario according to the US government at least. Right, right. Okay. So yeah, according to the people who do this shit for a living. So if you've been within 16 feet of a drop box, of a ballot drop box,
Starting point is 00:52:58 if you've been within 16 feet of 10 different ballot drop boxes during the month of October, they said, well, you were obviously stuffing ballot boxes because why would you have had to go to 10 of them otherwise? Well, it's not just, I mean, Noah, let's give them a fair shake here because it wasn't just drop boxes. It was also people who went to any nonprofit. Well, but now correct me if I'm wrong here, Jim, but they never define what they're actually, because they say, or one of these organizations, but they never define in the movie what fucking
Starting point is 00:53:33 organizations specifically they're talking about, right? Yeah, there's a reason they don't do that. And that's because they would get sued pretty quickly if they did. Yeah. Liable. Oh, right, because they would have to be accusing those people of vote har- yeah, right. Yeah, they're accusing them of federal crimes. Yeah, of did. Yeah. Liable. Oh right, because they would have to be accusing those people of vote harvests. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, they're accusing them of federal crimes.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, of course. Yeah. And Dinesh wrote a book about this movie and in August of 2022, he put out his book and it was pulled back on the day of publication and taken out of stores because he had named five of the organizations. And I got a kind of early PDF copy because I'm on Dinesh's mailing list and then they when they republished it in October of that year those names were gone so how is
Starting point is 00:54:13 obviously said no you can't we don't have any evidence these people committed crimes you just can't name them in your book Jesus not the only lawsuit that would result from that book by the way yeah so I think it's worth saying here and you've done a ton more research on this and you actually wrote a book about this fucking claim. So I really correct me on this, but like there is no hard evidence that they did any of this. Oh no, none at all. I don't mean like nothing. There's no hard evidence that they found the right people
Starting point is 00:54:43 and that the people visited the right places. Like we don't have hard evidence that they found the right people, that the people visited the right places. Like, we don't have hard evidence that they bought the data. Yeah. Right? There is lots and lots of evidence to suggest, and I don't know, but there is lots and lots of evidence to suggest that they sat around being like, well, what we could have done was do this and then we would have done that and then this, and then just said that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Because when anyone, including the government at several points and legal teams has been like, show us the thing you said you did. They've been like, I ate it. You can't. Yeah. No. They gave some data about Atlanta to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and the GBI said this is nothing. This is bullshit. This doesn't even rise to the level of suspicious,
Starting point is 00:55:30 let alone us in getting an investigation open. And that's it. That's the only data anyone's seen. And they promised to release everything to the public in May 2022. Yes. Nothing. Nothing's been done. Never. Huh. So weird. And let's keep in mind that even if it's not fake, keep in mind how unexceptional this is, right? Because if you are a fucking UPS driver or a cab driver or an Uber driver or a pizza delivery guy, or you have any number of fucking jobs, like ballot drop boxes were everywhere in the 2020 election, right? They were all over the fucking place and they were in the most trafficked areas, obviously,
Starting point is 00:56:04 right? You'd put them in places where people would go a lot. So anyone who walked around a lot would visit 10 fucking drop boxes over the period, course of a fucking month. It was, it's just bat shit insane what they were even claiming. So just for fun, I looked up the 10 nearest drop boxes to me to see if I might, without knowing it, be sort of a Manchurian candidate fuel. Turns out I am because nearest drop boxes to me to see if I might, without knowing it, be sort of a Manchurian candidate fuel. Turns out I am because the drop boxes near me, and I'm not making these up, I swear, are Town Hall, the fire station, the library in my town, the College New Jersey Institute of Technology, Rutgers University, a different city hall,
Starting point is 00:56:44 and a third city hall. So it's just the places the most people go. They might as well be like playgrounds and the mall. Malls, they have them. Like where I was, there was one at the goddamn mall. Absolutely, they have them in malls, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they have them in shopping centers, college campuses, community centers, loads in libraries.
Starting point is 00:57:03 They're everywhere. Obviously. That's the point, is to make it convenient in libraries. They're everywhere. Obviously. That's the point, is to make it convenient to vote. Right, right. And they're like, see these people, why would you possibly go to more than one library in the same month? And it's like, well, you, yeah, right. No, I get why you wouldn't do that. And there's also this moment where Greg has to convince us that these mules that they're talking about, these some pretty bad dudes and he says multiple times we're not talking about grandma walking your dog okay yeah they're bad dudes and what he what he
Starting point is 00:57:33 means by that is black black black yeah do we have any no very important do we have any data on these so-called antifa drug mules? Anything we know about them? Yeah, right, right. Oh, I think you've spoiled it quite a bit. Yeah. So they're like, you know, well, of course, the data we bought also included a lot of the antifa riots. And I'm like, oh, you called them the antifa riots. I bet you're going to be real objective now. Huh. Yeah, it seems good. And this is where they claim that like the mules match up to a real database of like violent offenders and terrorists that the government has.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And of course, the government has come out and been like, absolutely fucking not. What the fuck are you guys talking about? Yeah, but they're like, you know, a lot of these people that we found that were going visiting all these straw boxes were also at the Antifa riots. And I'm just like, well, yeah, because a lot of them were probably like police officers and firefighters and pizza guys, you know, they would have been in those areas as well. Again, they say like they call them identified rioters, but all they mean, again, assuming they're not even faking the data, all they mean is we're in the area of a protest during
Starting point is 00:58:44 a protest. Yeah. It's so hard to talk about this because it's like well, we have to assume that they're not lying and they are, but even if they are, it's stupid. Right, right. And on the third level of if they were telling the truth, it's still dumb, but yeah. Yeah, there's a thing we talk about a lot on Felacious Trump, which is okay, this isn't true, but if it was true, it still doesn't prove what he thinks it.
Starting point is 00:59:08 When are you making that t-shirt? I want that shirt. So yeah, so they had hunted this in Georgia. They found it in there like, and then we looked for it in Arizona and we found it and we looked for it in Milwaukee. We found it. We looked for it in Michigan and we found it. I was like, oh wow, everywhere you looked, you found this anomaly. It's like, it's not a fucking anomaly. Sorry, I don't want to spend too much fucking time on this, but think about how easy it would be to have a control for this. You could just also get data from June of that same area and see how many people showed
Starting point is 00:59:40 up there. They didn't do that. You could pick- Okay, here's the thing. Oh really? They think they did. Oh, interesting. But that's because they're fucking idiots who don't understand how elections work. Because they bought data from October 1st through to the election in these places. And the reason they think that helps is because in-person early voting in most of these states
Starting point is 01:00:02 didn't start until like two weeks before the election So they think they've got a period that is before Early voting and during early voting Oh, but they don't because mail-in voting starts way earlier and was started during that period in all of these states So so it's because they don't get the difference. That's so fucking dumb. Okay. All right. Wow Once again, I was giving them too much fucking credit. So it's not that they're too stupid to think of doing it. It's they're too stupid to pull it off. OK. Yeah. But yeah, so but they're finding it everywhere.
Starting point is 01:00:34 They're like, there's a great moment where Dinesh says, and I quote, any reasonable person would say you're on to something here. And I'm like, oh, wow, weird that none of the courts or investigative agencies have any reasonable people in them. Fucking Dennis Prager's not on board, guys. You are not, you have not yet risen to the level of reasonable people. Aim lower. Well, and then they have this weird, like really kind of creepy moment where they're like, and how effective is this weird shit we're doing with geo tracking data?
Starting point is 01:01:04 We solved a murder with it. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. No, no, no. They did it. And then the FBI was like you didn't because their thing is we use this data. We heard about a murder. We used it and we sent it to the FBI and the FBI was like, they didn't send us
Starting point is 01:01:20 anything. And then the media was like, hey, who did you talk to at the FBI? And she was like, I don't want them to be harassed. So I'm not gonna tell you. And Dinesh thinks this is a genius idea. He says, yeah, it's a genius idea. And they do this little kind of slapstick routine where they go, oh no, it's your idea. Oh no, it's my idea.
Starting point is 01:01:41 But it was genius. In my view, it's a genius idea. Yeah, well, we're seeing what your view is like, Dinesh. So we're not going to take that as gospel. The thing is, even in their version of what they did, they gave the FBI the data in October 2021. Both suspects had been indicted two and a half months earlier in this case. One of them was arrested in July 2020. 11 days out for the shooting. Oh God. We retroactively solved the solved.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Anybody can solve a cold case. It's the hot ones. All right. But so they also, this is amazing. They also got a bunch of surveillance video of voter drop boxes, which is just terrifying that these people are allowed to have. Like I get why we have to have a system where you can FOIA that stuff, but it's just terrifying that these people have in their own estimation,
Starting point is 01:02:30 millions of minutes of surveillance footage. Yeah, there should be a question on the FOIA that delays it, where it's like, how sure are you that the earth isn't hollow on a scale from one to 10? And if you do less than a ten you actually don't get freedom of information. I'm okay with that. But also the stuff that they get hold of actually it's frightening that they got hold of it but it's boring as hell. The stuff it doesn't actually tell you what they said it tells us. They go to great pains to explain what it is we're looking
Starting point is 01:03:05 at when all we're looking at is somebody dropping a ballot into a box. Yep. Like you're legally allowed to do. Yeah. Sometimes more than one. Right. So that's what they're saying. They're like, look at all these people putting multiple ballots into the drop box.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Now, first of all, you've already admitted that you watched thousands of hours of this footage, right? So like, given the fact that like that is a perfectly legal thing to do, you're allowed to drop off ballots for your wife, your adult children, anybody like my wife, when my wife went to vote in Georgia, she dropped off my ballot, her ballot and her father's ballot, right? That was legal. So she's probably only have video of Georgia.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Right. She's probably on one of their fucking videos, you know? But that's the thing is that they've got all this video. Yes, you're going to find that. And that's all they ever show us, right? They allude many times to like, they're like, and then this person goes to a number of different ballots, but they never show us the same person at multiple ballots or multiple drop ballots or the same person at the same one multiple times. They never show... They allude to that a number of times and pretend that they have it or that they've shown it to us, but they never do.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Yeah. Also, I just have to point out, because I love this so much, this guy, one of the guys in this initial set of shots is the one who sued them and was like, yeah, I was actually dropping it off for my family. And they were like, ah, sorry about that, my man. The second of the book's retractions, in case you're keeping count at home. Actually, I hate to correct you, but that's still in the book.
Starting point is 01:04:32 They didn't take that guy out. Oh, they didn't take it out. He just sued them and they lost. Amazing. Yeah, yeah. Fucking amazing. All right, so yeah, no, I knew that one of these had been actually investigated by the state of Georgia. And then they were like, no, man,
Starting point is 01:04:44 that's just a dude doing a legal thing. You need to leave him the fuck alone. So but then so oh, sorry, there's also this one, this other anomaly that they feel is so huge, they have to point it out. They're like, what about this ballot box in Gwinnett County? It had over 1900 ballots. That's way more than normal. And like I looked up the population of Gwinnett
Starting point is 01:05:06 County is over a million fucking people. Yeah, they seem to be like, no, why would so many people vote all at once? And it's like, was it really close to the election? I'll tell you when it was. It was the first day of mail-in voting, first day of in-person voting. Oh my god. It was the day that people were like, oh, we can go and drop off our ballots then. So yeah, it was a record that day.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And also, they say that they have video of it, of the Dropbox, and they see 271 people approaching the Dropbox, and yet there were 1900 ballots. And they don't, they haven't watched it. They don't have that video and they don't show it I I got hold of that video and I watched fucking the whole thing from the covered those ballots period and there were 1323 people. Oh really approached the dropbox during that period. Wow. I don't know where the fuck they got there 271 from that's not true So the impression that I got and obviously, you know this better than I do But the impression I got is that they were saying that according to their cell phone tracking data, there were only 270 people that came there.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah, they say that they had, I think it was like 20, around 20 cell phone signals, but 271 people on video. Oh, this is fucking... Even dumber. It's always even dumber. I love this. It's a lie, but even if it wasn't a lie, it wouldn't prove anything This is a great example of that because geo tracking data isn't complete
Starting point is 01:06:32 No, right. You don't get all the cell phones in the in the Walmart that you're looking at You just get the ones in that particular sales package and they're lying about it It's never stopped and the ones where people have agreed to share their location. Right, yes. Pretty much to get that data, people have to choose that option. Right, right. Yes, exactly. And then we get this video, this poor fucking woman. I was afraid for myself because this is how I travel about the world. I could be in a destination to see some documentary any moment without knowing it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. Oh, hey, before we move on to that, man, I think we maybe should talk about that clip that Eli alluded to earlier where they made a mistake with the stock footage. Oh, yes, that was here, wasn't it? Yeah. So while Greg is talking about all of the ballots in this ballot box, we get some B-roll of him kind of pointing at screens of stock footage and we get a shot which has a map and a little insert video and the insert video is of the Georgia Dropbox that they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:30 But the map is not Atlanta. Nope, that doesn't look like Atlanta to me. No, no. It is a map of Moscow as it turns out. Do you think that was a nice, do you think that was a fun call to the Russian spies who created this movie? Do you think they were like, hey, Yorgie, this one's for you. Yeah, that's a shout out.
Starting point is 01:07:51 No, that's probably Yorgie's house that they're highlighting right there. Yeah, that one spot there. Oh, you guys, you did not have to do that for me. Fucking amazing. You guys are so sweet. I love corrupting elections with you. You guys are great. So yeah, so we get that and then we get this lady dropping off her ballot and they're explaining to us why everything is suspicious. They're like,
Starting point is 01:08:12 first of all, we have her geo tracking data. Her cell phone's not even from Georgia. It's from North Carolina or whatever. And I'm like, Oh my God, a person whose cell phone number doesn't match their state of current residency, the hell you say? She must have to dial nine to get out of the hotel that is that state. Long distance calls, you say? And then they're like, also, she's wearing gloves. And I'm like, yeah, why would a person wear gloves while touching a public object in 2020?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yes. And the only explanation they can come to is corruption and fraud. Just not COVID. Definitely not that. It's not COVID. It's that other people, Republicans, had been caught cheating at the election that same year. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:57 They say, well, you know, this all of a sudden we started seeing these gloves showing up right after some people got caught using fingerprints. And I'm like, do you guys think that's when fingerprint technology was invented? Give me a fucking break. It's also just for the record, not true that the fingerprints were used in that case. They did fingerprint those people, but that wasn't information wasn't made available until the following spring and the fingerprints were inconclusive. They didn't actually contribute to the case at all. It's always more alive than I thought it was. That's
Starting point is 01:09:28 so good. Also, they make this huge fucking deal out of this. After the lady's done, she throws her glove away in a trash can that was behind her and they're like, how did she know that trash can was behind her? She never looks at it. That's fucking... This is the part that I was like, Hey guys, hey guys, what the fuck do you think walking over to something is like? Do you walk over to things with your eyes closed? Or do you just spin as you walk 360 degrees to take in your whole environment? They don't have peripheral vision. I think we've gained an insight into their blinkered vision. For the entire filmmaking process.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Yeah. Yeah, it's a severe form of myopia known as conservatism. Yeah. But then, and then they go like, but this one lady, she goes to dozens and dozens of drop boxes during the course of the election. I'm like, oh, so I guess you're going to show us a video of, she was a very distinctive looking human being
Starting point is 01:10:23 who would be like, obvious, even with her, you know, even with the digitization, you could tell it was the same person. They're like moving on moving on. Yeah, we just don't get to see it. They kind of go, no, fuck you. We're not going to show you that. No, no, moving on. And what we move on to is this other guy, they're like, look at this guy, he drops a ballot in the drop box and then he takes a picture of it. Like he's trying to prove that he did it to his employer. And I'm like, yes, what possible explanation could there be for a Zennial over documenting their life with a cell phone?
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah. Just wait till you hear what Antifa is paying us to do to our food. Yes. Yes. And also Greg is narrating this and he's kind of, he's saying, see all the ballots coming out of his rucksack as he parks his bike and look, they're putting them into the box.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And you think, well, he can't actually, I didn't count them, there was one he put in. He's got one. It's just one! But he also says, oh yeah, he's very frustrated. Look how frustrated he is now. He's got to turn around, he's got to take a photograph. You know, he may be crap at data analysis, but his body language intuition skills way off the charts.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It's good going, Greg. And then we get the best worst pixelation. I assume this is the- This isn't the best worst one. This isn't the best worst. No. This is second best worst. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So this dude, they're like, what about this guy with his dog? And they've pixelated the fucking dog. Did they have protected the dog's identity? His identity, yes. God damn video. I assume the dog threatened to sue and they were like, okay, let's just be careful. So also, like, so how committed does this guy have to be? We're supposed to believe that this guy goes to dozens of drop boxes, right?
Starting point is 01:12:06 It's his fucking job to steal the election or whatever. And he brings his little dog with him. Yeah, in daylight. That seems inconvenient in daylight. Yes, right. In broad fucking daylight. Yeah. Right outside where people are going into vote, which we describe as doing it the right way. Yeah, I just never realized my friend Rachel was an antifa mule, but now I know.
Starting point is 01:12:27 It's all coming together. Well, she does go to multiple public spaces every month. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's all coming together. And Greg and Catherine narrate this one because there's nothing going on. This is, again, just a person voting. So they tell you what's inside the heads of the people in line to vote.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yes! Like they're thinking, what can this all mean? What's the point of anything if this is allowed to happen in broad daylight? How brazen. Yeah. Well, and then there's also this very creepy moment where they're like, Dinesh is watching this video with him
Starting point is 01:13:01 and he's like, cause like you said, so there's a ballot drop box where people are coming up and dropping off ballots, but there's also a line of people waiting for in-person voting. And they're talking about the people waiting in the line for in-person voting and they're like, well, why doesn't anyone intervene
Starting point is 01:13:14 when they see this person dropping off multiple drop boxes? Well, the reason is because that person is voting and intervening would be a federal fucking crime. But what this movie is saying is like, well, a good citizen, if they saw somebody dropping off multiple ballots, would intervene and stop them from doing that. Like that seems to be the movie's suggestion. Oh, if only people had been brave enough to tackle my wife.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Why didn't someone side-tackle anyone you assumed to be Antifa? Yeah, because they're not in line to do it in person. So they're ergo, they must be Antifa. Yeah. Right, right, right I did track down a frame before they cut away back to the them looking at the film There's one frame where the dog is unpixelated. Oh really? Whoa, and it turns out to be none other than Hunter Biden's lap dog. Oh All comes together I knew they did it for a reason
Starting point is 01:14:01 Oh, no. It all comes together. I knew they did it for a reason. And then this is where they start to make. So as Eli said, like the point of this movie isn't to prove to anybody that the election was stolen. The point of it was to give cover to these draconian voting laws, right? That are meant to purge people from voting roles and make it more difficult for people in poverty to vote, etc.
Starting point is 01:14:24 So this is where we start really dig in on that for the first time, I think. Yeah. You were just talking about how they keep making these laws. They say it's to protect elections, but it's actually to make them even easier to steal. Right. Right. And so this is where we should address the sort of hidden claim within their claim, I think, to be useful, right?
Starting point is 01:14:43 Because what I was assuming as I was watching this movie is that the claim they're making is that the 2000 Antifa mules are stuffing fake ballots into the ballot box. But that's not the claim they're making. Yeah. Right? The claim they're making is actually significantly weaker. The claim they're making is that they're taking real votes from real people and delivering them to ballot boxes and that's technically
Starting point is 01:15:11 illegal because of the voter suppression laws. Now, as will be the theme of this episode and has been the theme of the episode, that's bullshit. But even if it wasn't bullshit, it wouldn't be cheating. It would just be counting all the fucking votes. Okay, so they are going to poke some holes in this, but yes, they are not suggesting at any point that there were fake ballots going in. Yeah. Right. Yeah, Catherine, when she testified to Senate committee, I think in Wisconsin said, we are
Starting point is 01:15:41 not claiming these are illegal votes. And Brad Raffensperger in Georgia said, we're looking into this, but even if all of it's true, these votes are not illegal. They were just processed in a way that is, isn't okay. Yeah, exactly. Right. So they'll still be counted. Right. And keep in mind that the only reason that they were processed in a way that isn't legal is because of voter suppression, right? There's no reason for there to be laws that only you or a family member can drop off your suppression, right? There's no reason for there to be laws that only you or a family member
Starting point is 01:16:07 can drop off your ballot, right? Your ballot is sealed in an envelope that you signed. And if it's not signed and verified to match the signature inside on the other envelope, the vote is thrown away. So you can't do fraud with it, right? The only reason to do that is to keep people who are in hospitals and nursing homes
Starting point is 01:16:25 and in poor areas unable to vote. So again, it's bullshit, but even if it wasn't bullshit, it would be evil bullshit. Yeah. They talk about the fact that they're kind of, the votes of fraud that went on was subverting democracy. What we're talking about is people that are setting out to subvert democracy.
Starting point is 01:16:46 And as Greg would no doubt point out in his body language, human intuition skills, how do you distract people away from your stuff is to project it onto the other side. So actually all of the stuff that they're talking about in this entire film, when you suddenly get a moment of clarity and truth, you think, oh, actually that's exactly what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And they're just telling us that it's the others that are doing it. And then trying to dress it up as them doing us a service by pointing it out to us. I mean, yeah, as you say, they are, there is evil bullshit, but they're really bad evil geniuses because they're actually, it's a bit like when you get the evil genius that just monologues you. So you just pull out a gun and shoot him. They're monologuing. And in the monologue, they're kind of going, oh yeah, well if only they've, yeah, we've seen through it. They're fraudulently censoring the vote and processing this in such a way that we're restricting people's access to democracy.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Oh, okay. Yeah, in telling us all this stuff, you've just given it away. Right. Can you not tell that we can tell that? No, there's, there's like a, but there's like this really kind of, again, very creepy bit where like, where Catherine starts talking about, you know, and this won't stop unless we stop it. And I'm like, you're talking to a group of like an audience that's already been stirred up into treasonous fear or once before.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Right. And then Greg follows it up with the fucking tactical cargo shorts of sayings. He goes on the other side of fear is freedom. And I'm like, Oh, that's etched into the blade of your hunting knife. Isn't it? Are you reading that off of the backpack? Your wife got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:26 And also, because they have to point out, they have to at least acknowledge at this point that like, wow, you know, it's weird that Trump was saying all of this stuff before it happened publicly. And they're like, yeah, that makes it even more true, right? The fact that he told us what we were going to lie about before we lied about it, that actually makes it even more true. That's what they say. And sorry, I look at it.
Starting point is 01:18:49 We can't go back after every line, obviously, but I have to point this one out as well. Dinesh at this point, he advocates for bringing back quote, the old rules for voting. The pre civil rights era. Dinesh is sitting there taking a literacy test. Oh, I didn't need this one. I forgot what color I am again. Maybe not pre-civil rights, maybe pre-civil war. Because they're talking about voting.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I see. Yeah. That was when America was great, wasn't it? Right. Yeah, right. Wasn't that it? Yeah. So then we watch fucking sinister voting more.
Starting point is 01:19:25 This is the part where he comes up and he actually goes, what you're seeing is a crime. And that's the guy really, that's the guy that was investigated? That's the guy who sued them. Yeah. Yeah. And that lawsuit is still going against Dinesh and True the Vote, but Salem Media settled. Oh, really? Made a public apology and withdrew the film from their platforms.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Oh, interesting. Awesome. Yeah. So yeah, so and even says here, he's like, yes, you are allowed to drop off ballots for your family and people under your care, but that's not what this is. Even though it would look exactly like this. And in this single case, it was investigated. That is what it was.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Mm hmm. Right? They don't they don't like, there's no point where they're like, look, this is what it was. Mm hmm. Right. Like they don't they don't like there's no point where they're like, look, this guy has forty one ballots. It's impossible that that's, you know, that that's just him and his family or whatever. It's always three ballots. Yeah. So. Oh, and they also they try to do that bit where like they're like, and look at all of these videos.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Now, the videos that they've shown us have showed absolutely nothing. But they're trying to impress us with how many videos showing nothing that they have. Yeah. But even then it's a lie because it's the same videos over and over again. If you pause it and look, they're just using the same video like 18 times. Yeah, they do that kind of zoom out where it populates the screen more and more and more and more and they zoom in and get little lots of it, but they're all kind of, I think I missed a trick. They could have done one of those pictures that's made up of lots of little pictures
Starting point is 01:20:48 to reveal a portrait and it could have been Biden. Oh shit. But then of course this is a documentary and not a fanciful work of fiction. So of course they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't keep it real there, obviously. All right, well, Dinesh is pretty sure he has proven his point now, but that doesn't mean he's ready to shut the fuck up. We're ready for him to shut the fuck up though. So we're going to take a quick break. But first, let me give back to you the hard sell. Will they manage to find even less convincing lines of evidence?
Starting point is 01:21:18 What would that even look like? Does Trump add up to did too in Gamadria? Find out the answers to these questions and more when we return for the still dumber conclusion of 2000 mules. It does it by the way. I kept trying to find some kind of like uh-uh or something like that that would add up to the same as Trump. I couldn't do it.
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Starting point is 01:23:12 Not the week to include that in your must reach BetterHelp. It was not. BetterHelp. Do you even have a spare? I could buy one. And cut. Great job, guys. This panel stuff is excellent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Right. Too right. Say, Dennis, can I talk to you for a second, though? Sure, Dinesh. What's up? You know, I love your ideological fervor, but I can't help but notice that you're being a little bit negative on these panels. Yeah, whose side are you on? I mean, I'm doing my best here, guys. but I can't help but notice that you're being a little bit negative on these panels.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah, whose side are you on? I mean, I'm doing my best here, guys. Come on, man. Just say the evidence is good. Okay, but it's not good. We all know it's not good. Of course we know that, but you know, it's not like anybody's going to call you on it. Yeah, man, they don't care what we say. Okay, look, I didn't want to start a whole thing, but I feel like now I have to say it. You guys are doing it wrong. We're doing what wrong?
Starting point is 01:24:12 Being a bad person. We're not bad people. Yes, we are. We're children's movie level villains, but we don't have to be idiots. We don't? No. Wanting poor people to die and hating women's rights has been socially acceptable political stances since the eighties.
Starting point is 01:24:30 The eighties! But you guys have added all this stuff to it. Litter boxes and bathrooms, this shit. Just be a bad, selfish person. They pay us to be a bad, selfish person. Just take the money and run. There has never been, and there will never be, any consequences. So...
Starting point is 01:24:52 you don't think people will buy the movie? I didn't say that. Okay, but I think the litter box thing is real. Nobody asked you, Charlie! Pfft! Hahahaha! And we're back for still more of this shit and it's time to run the numbers with a giant map of the United States at the county level.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Cause you need one of those if you're going to add up election numbers, right? So they wheel one of those out and they're going to run the math or the math, depending on where you're from and see if their mules would be enough to swing the election. And okay, it's amazing for so many reasons. The first is that they go like 2000 mules times 38 drop boxes, each times five ballots for each drop boxes, 380,000 illegal votes. And then they beat, they finish and they're like, you have no context. Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Let's do that again, but stay by his. That means nothing. And also they're not in the numbers that they have previously been pretending they're in, right? They obviously just got to 380 and they were like, okay, we'll disperse those now in a way that would mean that Biden cheated and Trump actually won. But in order to do that, they have to accuse the Democrats of cheating in states they would have won anyways. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Yeah. Yeah, right. They're like, let's look at Michigan. Let's add the numbers. Well, fuck that doesn't change anything. They actually do that. They're like, but that would, no, no, Biden still would have won. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah. They didn't quite make up big enough numbers to win in Michigan or Wisconsin. Why didn't they make up bigger numbers? Why didn't we lie differently? And, and, back to my editing, worst-editing film ever, why didn't they just cut that bit out? And just go straight to the other numbers? Just go to where their votes were? Yeah, go straight to the numbers, rather than saying, oh yeah, so yeah, well let's take off those constraints
Starting point is 01:26:44 that you put on in order to show how hard you works And then let's imagine we're gonna make our bigger numbers. What if they went to ten drop boxes? What if there were hundreds of thousands of mules? Yeah. Yes. This is where they they propose that there could be 54,000 Even with their 2000 there in Pennsylvania. They claim they had 1,100 mules. They claim, was it 275,000 illegal votes just in Philadelphia. That is an insanely high number.
Starting point is 01:27:15 In 2020, Biden got just under 340,000 mail-in votes. That's like documented by the state. And probably at least half of those were not returned in drop boxes, but in the regular mail. So there's more illegal votes than were put in drop boxes. That's fucking amazing. That's in their original numbers before they inflate them. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Like why would there be, like what happened to the people who did vote for Biden and put them in the drop box? Where would their votes even be in this scenario? Yeah. Yeah. Well, but the point of what they're doing here is that even with just their 2000 meals that they've quote unquote proven to exist, that's just enough votes in Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania to swing all of those states and therefore Trump wins the presidency, right? But as you're saying, like, why not just add up Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania? Why prove yourself wrong about your own lie in your movie? Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:18 All you had to do was drag and delete in iMovie to not have this part that disproves you. Nobody would have questioned it. But again, what they're suggesting here at minimal is that 2,000 people did a crime and nobody got caught. Nobody talked, nobody turned sides, nobody. Nope. But again, and they're like, and that's just the ones that we know about there were actually a lot more So we can multiply this number by anything We fucking we fucking what yeah, and then Trump wins all For Joe Biden it turns out that all the states were Trump states Yeah, so yeah, the original threshold remember was to avoid false positives
Starting point is 01:29:03 So they're basically just go, but what if we just decide not to care about false positives? Then we can make up much bigger numbers. Yeah. And when they do, the new number of mules that they come up with in Detroit is one in 30 adults in Detroit. That's a lot. That is a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:24 And a million total illegal votes. Yes. A million. Yes. Dropped off two or three at a time. But the one thing I want to point out about this, right, that they accidentally proved by doing their like weird little sprinkling of mules here and sprinkling of mules there, right?
Starting point is 01:29:41 What they accidentally prove is how bullshit the electoral college is, right? They're like, yeah, isn't it crazy that 9,000 assholes split between three states could deny what the rest of the country overwhelmingly feels? Yes. Anyways, back to our secret antifa mules. No reason to think about these numbers any deeper. I've got a burning question that's been nagging at me. How do they know that all the ballot box votes were for Biden and not for Trump? Yeah. Interesting that Trump didn't have his own mules.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah. Because at least some of them were for Republican congressmen, which is a really interesting choice. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. So now though, it's time to go back to Dennis Prager, that son of a bitch, and give him a what for with all this new data that we've got. So we go back to that room full of assholes and they watched the first two thirds of this movie. Yeah. Right. On an iPad, apparently.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yeah. Yeah. You know, all gathered around it. Yeah. So that's the kind of thing. So I think the reason they're doing this is like, if that wasn't enough to convince you, all of these numbers that we made up and all of the stuff that we've shown you so far, what we're going to do is an appeal to authority for people that you think are in authority to get them to tell you what you need to think about the stuff we told you, you need to think about. Yeah. The thing is, don't take this opportunity to come up with new stuff.
Starting point is 01:31:08 They just take it in terms to say the stuff that they've, the anomalies they've already pointed out about these videos because they've each been given like one of the videos to say, oh, okay, Gorka, you talk about the gloves on this guy and Charlie, you claim that when someone's taking a photo, it's because they're getting, that's how they're going to get paid. Yeah, because they're getting paid by their teeth out, yeah. But again, Dennis is accidentally doing our job for us here, because he's trying, and I want to give sweet, sweet, beautiful Dennis the credit here, right? He's like, oh, so you got some evidence here of people faking fake votes,
Starting point is 01:31:40 like sticking fake ballots into boxes and they're like, um, no. And he just, he flumps. Screenshot it and put it in our notes. And that is just Dennis Breger sitting there being like, this is fucking stupid. If you need a visual of what he means by swamp, we've got the one that the dictionary would have employed if it needed one Yeah, there's literally a point where Gorka is trying to convince Prager and he's like, no, but don't you see Dennis? It's the perfect crime and Dennis goes it's not a crime
Starting point is 01:32:17 He's been holding out for the since the right at the beginning the first line in the previous den of Iniquity that he said, and he said, I'm agnostic on this, show me the money, show me the proof. And he's been waiting this long in the movie for it to be shown the proof and then they don't. It's not like they filmed this at the same time on the same day or anything. It's just they all happened to be wearing the same clothes that day. Yeah, so but also like some of the privilege bullshit here, right? Like they said, because they have nothing again, they don't have the video of the same
Starting point is 01:32:53 person showing up at the different drop boxes or anything like that. So what they have to settle for is shit like Eric Metaxas going, come on, this person's voting at 1am. Who does that? And I'm like, people who work nights, you fucking vicious piece of shit. People who aren't you. Yes. Yes. They do the job you should have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:15 And Breaker is just desperately going like, all right, at least someone tell me what I'm supposed to be believing. What the fuck am I supposed to be doing? Just say a lie. Say a lie and I will say yes to it. And they're like voting. And he's like, that's not illegal. You fucking reptiles.
Starting point is 01:33:37 At one point Prager though, trying to yes and these guys, he goes like, wait, you got a video here of a guy at 3 47 a.m. with a whole bunch of ballots. The whole bunch of ballots was two Right they showed this guy several times because he's trying to put two ballots in at once But you can't put two ballots in at once so one of them falls down and he has to try again and they and that To them makes him super suspicious or whatever so we see this guy a bunch of fucking times So yeah, they even say I think it's Metaxas at this point who says now Do you have videos of the same guy going to different places?
Starting point is 01:34:06 And then I was just like, yep, yep. And then we just move on. Yep. Catherine and Greg both claim they never see it. Yeah. Nobody says, well, can we see those? I know. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do that. Dennis, stop taking out your gun. But now we're going to get some testimony from a ballot watcher here.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Oh yeah, no, they have their whistleblower. So yeah, now the whistleblower interview has been digitized. It's also, it's interesting to me that the person interviewing them is not anyone related to this movie. Yeah, no, this is investigative journalist Heather Mullins, because investigative journalist isn't a legally protected term. So you can call her that if you want. We can't stop you.
Starting point is 01:34:47 But also, but like she couldn't like turn us on to this whistleblower. She couldn't be like, oh, it's this guy and he'll do an interview for you as well. Right? This is a one time only kind of thing. Yeah. And this is my best worst. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Because this they pixelated this guy. So, you know, to disguise his identity. But he's facing away from Cameron. They've pixelated the guy so you know to disguise his identity, but he's facing away from Cameron They've pixelated the back of his head They have they pixelated the back of his head How recognizable is the back of his head? If you had the head rolls that I do friend you would want your identity protected from 360 degrees I have a theory maybe he's professor Quirrell
Starting point is 01:35:21 Ooooo That'd be pretty fucking recognizable. Voldemort's just disavowing the movie the whole time. This is bullshit. I want to kill everyone and drink a unicorn's blood, but this is way more evil than I would like. I think this is the guy that's been operating the point of view handheld camera all this time.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Yeah, right! Well, that's what he's like claiming, right? He's like, I was, my job was to go around to all the ballot boxes and make sure that nothing was untowards. And I'm like, oh, people's jobs was to visit the various ballot boxes. Why, that sure would explain all the data that you fucking used to create your entire claim to begin with. Right. But he's like, but I saw a lot of suspicious shit.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I took a lot of pictures and I'm like, oh, well, I'm sure you're about to show us some of those pictures. No, no, well, I'm sure you're about to show us some of those pictures. No, no, not a single goddamn thing. No. Yeah. He says like, he's like, I took a bunch of video and I took pictures of very suspicious things happening. And then they show us literally nothing.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Nothing. No. They show us the recreation stuff of him shooting somebody, doing something perfectly legal out of a ballot box, whilst he's doing something slightly less legal, filming them out of a car. Right. Yes. And his climax of his story is, I saw these black girls walking over and I started filming
Starting point is 01:36:39 them and they were like, hey, why are you filming us vote? And I was like, um, this is technically legal. The president sent me the real one. And they were like, Oh, I don't like that. So why would they not like being filmed by the back of my pixelated head? Unless they was doing a crime. I just, again, his whole thing is just a lot like me and Noah have a friend who claims pixelated or no that he's psychic when he's on shroom.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Like there's again, I know a broken record on this episode, but it's a lie. And even if it wasn't a lie, it wouldn't fucking matter. There's also, I have to point this moment out too, cause like the guy says to the interviewer is like, well, you know, Stacey Abrams had her people out there and the interviewer goes, well, how could you tell that they were Stacey Abrams people? And you could just see in her face, her going, don't say black, don't say black, don't say black. And also, is that the only question that's occurred to her so far? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Like, where is this stuff? How much did you get? Can we see it? That would be the first question. That would be my first question. Can we see the evidence please? No, how did you know they were Stacey Abrams people? She does ask, so are you sure you saw crimes being committed basically? And he said, oh, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. And then she says, would you testify to that if law enforcement got in touch? And he said, oh, well, yeah, absolutely. I would have to. And the thing is this guy, it turns out in Dinesh's book is a cop in Georgia. He was hired by the NRSE to do this
Starting point is 01:38:12 observing thing, like off duty, but he's a cop. If he saw crimes, the Georgia PD policy requires off duty cops to report crimes. Yes, that's the whole job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking amazing. And that's very interesting, the change of tense there, because she says, would you be willing to testify to these things that give you a position under oath?
Starting point is 01:38:33 And he says, I would have had to. Right, yes. And then her follow-up question isn't, yeah, that's true, but would you? Yes. So actually, the follow-up question ought to be so what you're saying is You didn't witness a crime because you're not willing to you would have had to if they were crimes But you didn't so then they weren't at the very least
Starting point is 01:38:56 Yeah At the very least you're admitting that there was no crime here because what you reported they were they were just like I'll go fuck Yourself. Yeah. Yeah, so okay. now we get to nash's he's bet he's at work in his kitchen when Katherine calls him about another informant now This is again. This is like this stupid slice of life shit because she's just like hey I have a new scene for your documentary and he's like, oh watch it with my wife I just have to walk. I have to point this out I know we're running long, but she walks in before he says hey honey She walks in and he goes hey, honey, and then he turns he's like
Starting point is 01:39:33 But they left that one in the movie sure did yeah, they don't have second take money no second Pulling happening on that shot, so you know there's there's two operators there. They were lubing up that second actor's asshole while he was shooting. Like quick, quick, quick, quick. He's going, hurry up. How long do you expect me to maintain an erection while Dinesh D'Souza's here? Come on. Terrible fluffer. Keep it professional.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Yeah. So, okay. So now we're going to watch this other interviewer with this other whistleblower and this woman, correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't fit into their scheme anywhere. Yeah, she's not immune. Yeah, so she's going like, yeah, you know, people would bring me ballots and then I would get paid for that. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:40:21 And she's like, I don't know whatever it was that you wanted me to say for the money man I say I'm pixelated and also what I'm Spanish. That's all you need to know and that and that's why I'm subtitles That's why she's subtitles. She's the only one The mildest fucking accent Yes. Yeah, because she's a foreigner. So we're gonna have to subtitle her. And it's not fair to just subtitle her. We're gonna have to subtitle the American interviewer as well to make it look equal. Right, right. Greg, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:53 So, and also like, so Greg goes like, you were bringing these ballots up. Can you give me an idea how many ballots you put into Dropboxes yourself? And before she can answer, he goes like hundreds Because because he had to answer in advance so she wouldn't say oh, I would say at least four million, you know or whatever Yeah, I can tell you how many it might have been Oh really because although this woman is disguised like her voice is disguised and she's in silhouette and Dinesh hopefully points out They're concealing her identity Yeah, I know who this person is because she testified about this in 2016 because this is not about the 2020 election.
Starting point is 01:41:30 This is about the 2016 election when she was briefly a receptionist for a person who was later convicted of like messing with four ballots. And she said to the cop then when she was questioned that a maximum like around 50 ballots were brought into her office where she was a receptionist So it seems unlikely she took hundreds to the local library dropbox Uh-huh, and she also claims when Greg asked her why did your boss want you to take them to the library? Instead of anywhere else and she says because there's no cameras there, which is you know, super suspicious But there were that's just another else and she says because there's no cameras there which is you know super suspicious but
Starting point is 01:42:05 there were that's just another lie there were cameras there at the time so of course there were so at the end of the interview he goes like do you think that elections are rigged and she's like yeah and i'm like yeah i don't think any conservatives should bother voting in these rigged elections. What would be the point even? Yeah. Yeah. Trump won Yuma County in 2020, by the way, where those elections were rigged. Oh, really? So, and she goes at one point, she goes like, yeah, you know, this is really big in the
Starting point is 01:42:38 Hispanic community. I call it the Mexican mafia. And then Greg has to stop her because no, it's not, it's Joe Biden. It's Joe Biden. Shut up. Shut up. Right. Cause that again, doesn't fit into their narrative. Yep. And he also asks, what do you think it's going to take to get this trafficking to stop? And is it, and no one at no point in the entire film has the word trafficking been used. And I'm thinking, is this edited in from a different part of an interview about something
Starting point is 01:43:04 completely different? Right. A different kind of an interview about something completely different? Right, a different kind of trafficking. Yeah. Yeah. I only ask that because the question appears over a cutaway back to Dinesh and Debbie, who are continuing with their concerned faces. And it doesn't lead on from the immediately prior bit of the interview with the informant. So you say, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:43:23 So they just shoved something in that could be, is general enough, doesn't mention anything specifically, except that word trafficking made me kind of think, and actually they end up having to use that again later on in order to cover that up. Yeah, they talk about trafficking from here on a bit more. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, exactly. He's introduced it now they can use it all they want. Well, it's and she actually she says like some about how like, you know, she's worried about speaking up about this because, you know, she's afraid
Starting point is 01:43:52 she'll end up in a trash can in pieces. And I'm like, yes, Biden murders the mules that get out of line. You see, yes, the fucking cut you up like rumbling the Bronx over your mis-delivered balance. If anyone ever finds out that you aren't my immediate family or my legal caretaker, I will have your entire family killed. Well, again, they're saying, because they'd say later on that people were being paid $10 per ballot they delivered.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Yeah. Right? And I'm just like, okay. And they went to like 24 drop boxes and delivered five a piece. So this is shit. This is nothing money. Right? So like, feels like it'd be really easy to convince a couple of these people to turn,
Starting point is 01:44:38 right? Yeah, especially out of the wider 54,000 mules. Sure. Yeah. Right. Well, okay. So, but now it's time to tackle the question that Eli was bringing up earlier. Where are these ballots coming from? Because again, they're not just writing a slip of paper that say Joe Biden, right? It has to be better than that. So now they have to imply that Democrats are tricking, like mentally deficient people
Starting point is 01:45:06 or people who are like unconscious in hospice or whatever to vote for them or like, I guess that's the claim. They, again, they don't really make a specific claim here. Yeah, the list of people that they have that they're implying are tricked into voting for Democrats are the mentally incompetent, people in old age homes who are so far gone there's no way they could be voting and Hispanic people.
Starting point is 01:45:31 The homeless. The homeless. Yeah. Yeah. No, there's no way a homeless person could know who they want to be president. They don't have a house. Yeah. They kind of skipped over the truth that Dinesh inserts into Nougat when he says, we know
Starting point is 01:45:46 that the mules got their stashes of ballots from these activist organizations. And we go, oh, okay, where, where, how do we know that? I must have gone to the bathroom when you proved that. Yeah, exactly. Where did they get them from? So that means that they can just, he can introduce another discredited right wing so-called expert and project 2025 co-author. Oh, is that? Hans Von Spikowski.
Starting point is 01:46:10 This is where he turns up and they go, so tell us Hans, where do they get this stuff from? Where does it all happen? And he says, let me quote Shakespeare to you. And Eli just shows up from the fucking side of the goddamn screen to side-tackle him. Just me and Dennis Brager tackling from either side at the same time. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:46:32 This is the point. When I was doing all the research for my book, I was like, do they have a quota of things to get wrong? Because he then does not quote Shakespeare. He quotes Elizabeth Barrett Browning. Oh, does he? He gets that wrong. Yeah, he sure does.
Starting point is 01:46:49 But he's a well-read guy. He's written a book. We see Dinesh flipping through it. So, you know, he's a literary giant. Yep. They don't let just anybody do that, I say as a self-published author. Yeah. But this guy, his whole thing is to come up there and say, you know This is why we need to purge the voter rolls more often. Mm-hmm Yeah, right because like when they talk about the these the all of these illegal voters on the voter rolls and stuff They're talking about like like I'm probably still on a voter roll somewhere in Pennsylvania or something, right? Because I used to live there I and I never like, you know officially had myself removed or whatever I have to do. I just I don't vote there. So it's OK. No, I'm going to need you to take a road trip.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I know we probably shouldn't discuss this on air, but I'm going to throw this out there and say. Yeah. But then this is also where they have the whole like people in nursing homes are voting the olds, you know, they show a lady where they're like this lady has like she voted and she's asleep, right? They're trying to give you the impression that she's just always like that. Like she's a vegetable, but but the lady's just asleep. She voted when she was awake. And what her daughter is saying is, you know, she's in a, she's hardly ever awake now.
Starting point is 01:48:06 So they're telling me she's been voting over the last 10 years. And I'm like, well, maybe she wasn't like this 10 years ago. Probably not. And also she says, or one of them says, I guess in my mind, I thought if you put your parents into a facility, because they were incapacitated, they wouldn't be offered to vote.
Starting point is 01:48:22 And I know, okay, sometimes we take issues with our parents' politics, but that seems a bit of an extreme reason to ship them off to a care facility. No, no, let her cook. There's a great moment here where it goes, now, so the lady, the old lady goes like, they made me vote. And they say, wait, what do you mean they made you vote? And she says, well, and then they fade out.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Well, I wanted to go down to the whole, just they get to watch the Nestle Susan be bored by an old person. Just fade it out. Yeah. My son has a guitar shot. But the expert guy, the project 2025 guy, he comes in and he's like, yeah, you know, these, they got these asshole nurses that like help get them registered and help them vote and everything. It's like they're caretakers of some sort.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Just a bunch of BLM and Tifa Jamaican ladies. All right, darling, today you're going to be voting. Okay, baby. They're not pichettes. Yeah. Obviously not. Well, and then we learned that they're even letting the filthy homeless people vote. Can you imagine? God damn. Are they even citizens? Because they're like, you know, when they've sent out mail out, some states send mail in ballots out to everybody. And it was like, are those, when they've sent out mail out, some states send mail in ballots out to everybody. And it was like, are those any of the states that you guys are complaining about?
Starting point is 01:49:50 No, but some of the states do it. And they even send them to homeless shelters. And I'm like, where would you have them send the homeless people's ones then? Just bail on the street. Just bring them out the window. Put them in their cups. That's what they have the cups for. Well actually the guy has got no beef with that. He says, no that's perfectly fine. But the problem is, how do we know they're not being intimidated or coerced? Well yeah. Well Well, if you think that, you know, he says it's
Starting point is 01:50:25 very easy, I think, for them to be intimidated and coerced. Oh, well, if you think that, we'll just take that as true then. Well, no, Republicans hate it when the unhoused are exploited. Yeah. But also, like, how do we know Christian wives aren't being intimidated and coerced into voting the way they're voting man? Yeah. Right? Yeah. So Christian wives should be purged from the voter rolls is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Right. By the same argument. So then we get Dinesh ominously walking near the white house, wondering what could have been when he asks where the money is coming from to pay all of these mules, right? If they're getting $10 a ballot and they're buying the balance, where's all this money coming from? Um, I'll give you a hint.
Starting point is 01:51:07 It rhymes with the schmooze. It's so because this whole section is just them being like, they said that the money was going for elections, but much of it is for entirely election related. Yeah. And also that kind of, there is, what you're saying is there's enough money here to rig an election based on the fact that this is how much it would cost to pay 54,000 mules. Therefore, it follows that the election was rigged. Yeah, because there are some rich people.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Just because there's all this money sloshing around us. Yeah. I like the idea that if there hadn't been enough money, they'd be like, well, the mules must have given them a discount. You know what good negotiators the smr-smr's are? Come on. Well, that's the other thing too, right? Because this guy is selling us a different fucking story. He's selling us a different theory of the case because he's saying, well, you know, Mark Zuckerberg gave out all that money to help out with the Jew, Jews, Zuckerberg gave out all that money to help with the election.
Starting point is 01:52:10 But most of it went to like drop boxes and mail in vote voting initiatives, which primarily helped the Democrats. And I'm like, well, a that's because your guy was demonizing mail in voting, right? Like that, that's not like a natural thing or whatever. But the other thing is that that's not the story you've been telling up to this point, right? If their plan was to use these election meals, they didn't need extra drop boxes. Right.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Yeah. That doesn't help them. Yeah. Also, he says that of all the money that was given to the states by Zuckerberg, only a few percent went on masks. Well, masks aren't that expensive. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:54 You know, they still needed, like all of the states that got the money spent some of it on masks, but not, they didn't spend hundreds of thousands on masks. Yeah. Oh, they did in the UK. Drop boxes are a bit more expensive. In the UK, people bought yachts on the basis of that. Most of it went on staff costs. Right, of course.
Starting point is 01:53:10 And training new staff, because you're going to need more people when you're doing in-person voting in lots of different locations, so not everyone has to be crammed into the same school gym. Right, right, obviously, obviously. But yeah, but they're like, yep, he spent a lot of money on it, he's Jewish,
Starting point is 01:53:23 you know who else is Jewish? George Soros. George Soros. The S-bomb. I dropped the S-bomb. They don't even have a lie about him. Yeah. They're just like, George Soros, you hate him. Well, that's all you need to do. You see, we're this far in the movie and there's a whole bunch of numbers
Starting point is 01:53:37 being talked about in the art of editing, the best, worst art of editing. This is like Homer Simpson's interview. Remember that one where he was interviewed below the clock and then they cut him to make him say stuff and the clock jumps around. This is that scene. But there's all of these numbers coming around and then they're not any of them put up on the screen. So the people watching this, you know, the red mist has kind of dissipated a bit.
Starting point is 01:54:01 So they just have to drop the Soros bomb. Yes. And the Warren Buffet and the unions just chuck those back in so that people kind of go get all angry and throw beer at the screen all over again. Yeah, exactly. It's weird that they did that though, because yeah, this interview with Scott Walter at the Capital Research Center is Frankensteined together in a way that makes him say certain stuff. But the stuff we see him saying is horrendous and racist enough that I'm pretty sure he was going to say all of the stuff they wanted him to say. I don't know why they had to then make him say all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:34 And also, the thing that he's there to prove is that both money and campaigns exist. Right? Both large amounts of money and political campaigns are things that exist, that coexist in the world. That's what he's there to prove. And they're editing shit together to make him prove that? Yeah. Well, you see, this is all, this is all stuff for Dennis Prager, isn't it? Basically, I've worked out that the audience for this movie is Dennis Frazier. I've just got to convince him because he was the one they left in the film saying, I've seen no proof.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Why? But so maybe they are. No, I was going to say maybe they're better filmmakers than we think they are. They're just having somebody in the movie say, well, how do I know this is all true? And then they'll show you it. And then they'll show you the guy going, oh yeah, actually actually it's all true. But they never quite fucking get there. But then we get a clip and again this is the thing that like that the reason why all of this is so incredibly dismissible right is because Trump was complaining
Starting point is 01:55:37 that it was happening before it could have happened right he was pre complaining that he was going to lose because of this years before it even fucking happened. Yeah. Trump said they were going to cheat, so watch out for Haitian immigrants eating your dog. Yeah, exactly. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:55 So we see him during the debate, like, intuiting that the election would be unfair. And again, it'd be probably worth emphasizing one more time that he was in charge of the government at this time. It wasn't even the Democrats running the fucking show. But despite that Dinesh says, and I quote, Democrats conceived the heist, they funded it, they organized it, they rigged and stole the 2020 presidential election. That's an actual quote from the fucking movie. Yep. Yep. Yep. This documentary. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:31 So, okay. So now we go back to the room full of idiots for a wrap up. He goes, Dinesh goes, we have data, we have footage. And I'm like, not of anything, but you do have data and footage. We do have those things. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe you have data and footage. We do have those things, yeah. Maybe. Maybe you have data. I don't think you have. I want to say it is the personal opinion of Eli Bosnick that you don't have data. So yeah, so, but then they do this bit where they're all sitting around a room, like trying
Starting point is 01:56:57 to predict all of the holes that we're going to poke into their arguments. They're doing a roast! It's the only part that Dennis participates in enthusiastically. He spends this whole movie being like, I don't know what the fuck you mean. But this movie he's like, oh, you know, another thing they'll say, they'll point out you're a felon, Dinesh. They'll point out you're a convicted felon. And he's like, they will, they will do that. And that Trump pardoned you. Yeah. Yeah. I love that they bring that
Starting point is 01:57:25 up. They're like, just in case anybody forgot Dinesh's ulterior motive, we're going to include it in the film. I think this is the first time I've seen people in a documentary whining about how hard they're going to get owned by their eventual viewers. Also, they go like, they're going to call us racist. And I'm and I'm like well about other stuff and then Larry Elder says he goes look The evidence you've brought is irrefutable. It's just like the evidence against OJ Simpson Dude what famously? Yeah, boy isn't that exactly it yeah, I can I say something controversial and brave I Think Larry Elder is not evil. I think he's stupid
Starting point is 01:58:07 Okay. All right. That's nice. I know I'm with you It's not a popular opinion, but I think it one like when history looks back on Larry Elder They're gonna be like guys. He'd been eating paint chips Larry elders final IQ was for it's amazing that he was in a chair of Larry Elder was in a vegetative state legally and medically starting in 1989 And you people just made him a congressman So he goes at this one he says, you know, you can't explain this How do you explain and then he says a bunch of shit they haven't shown any evidence of you know
Starting point is 01:58:43 You're like, how do you explain both the same person showing up at multiple drop boxes with stacks of ballots. I'm like we've seen nothing like that. Show me the exact moment you stopped beating your wife. And then Dennis says if every American saw that, meaning the multiple visits to drop boxes, it would move the needle but their ability to keep their side ignorant is total. Yes. No that's not the reason we won't see it. It's because it's not in the film. They don't have that.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Nope. And more projection there from Greg's intuition skills, where their ability to keep their side ignorant is total. You think, well, who's are they? Is that Dinesh? Right. Is that the Republicans? Yeah. Yeah. There's this great moment too where Charlie Kirk, like he's like, No, no guys, we're going to save the day. We're making a documentary. We're just like Michael Moore or Al Gore.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Can I say, I have never, this is me and Noah with me being like, Someday we'll probably make a Skaven atheist TV show. You think? You think we'll get our own TV show? And he's like, just let me sleep on the plane, man. It's Charlie Kirk saying, I'm a real boy. Well, there's also Gorka says, do we know who these ballots were for? We can't know who they were for. However, you have to inject common sense.
Starting point is 02:00:05 And I think he's actually got the sentence reversed. Because what he should be saying is, however, I think you have to inject common sense. Do we know who those ballots were for? We can't know who they were for. So yeah, that answers my question earlier on. How do they know they were votes for Biden and not for Trump? Well, you can't. You can't know.
Starting point is 02:00:22 You have to inject some common sense. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing's going to shrivel, you have to inject some common sense. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing's going to shrivel this movie faster than a common sense injection. Yeah. So they also say at one point, one of them is like, the Democrats have ruined election day. And I'm like, is this like when we took Christ out of Christmas, guys? Is this another one of these things? The I voted stickers don't even mention Jesus anymore.
Starting point is 02:00:44 So, but then Dinesh wraps up with his fucking eulogy for the America we've lost Okay, I have a genuine question What is he calling people to in? This monologue right because he sure that the whole time being like elections don't matter because they're all rigged and fixed But he's like the people need to What we must? because he spent the whole time being like, elections don't matter because they're all rigged and fixed, but he's like, the people need to... What? We must!
Starting point is 02:01:09 Yes, right, the people need to rise, and what, man? But of course we saw January 6th, so I think we can see why he's not finishing that sentence. Yeah. Yeah, but no, he's like, he ends it all by urging people to get out and vote, and the last note I wrote was like, why would that help if we're cheating though? Also he's saying get out and vote, but obviously not to a ballot drop box because that's not
Starting point is 02:01:33 doing it right. Right. Yeah. Election day only. Yeah. And then within the prescriptive hours, after having passed your literacy test, not received a bottle of water for somebody in the test. Yeah, right. And not receive a bottle of water from somebody in the queue. Yeah, exactly. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:50 All right. Well, Jim, Mark, thanks so much for coming on and hanging out with us today and helping us break down this piece of shit. Thank you so much. It's been amazing. So this episode actually releases on Election Day in America. Is there anything you guys want to tell America while you've got their ear? Good luck.
Starting point is 02:02:07 I guess. And maybe the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing. Yep. Get out and vote. There you go. Vote, vote, vote, vote, vote. Yeah, so if you've got a few hours left,
Starting point is 02:02:17 presumably before you. You can't listen to this podcast if you didn't vote. Turn it off. It's not for you anymore. Yep, you don't get the outro. It's not for you. Or if you're not American, I guess. Well, yeah, obviously if you're not American. Hey, if you're not American and you can somehow vote in our election, fucking do it. We're cheating is in. We would steal the election from Hitler if we could. You know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 02:02:40 people? All right. Well, I guess that's going to do it for our review of 2000 Mules, but that's not going to do it for the episode just yet because we still need to convince ourselves to carry on. So Eli, tell us what's on deck. Well, Noah, we might need some cheering up next week. So I think we should head back to the one source of humor that's never failed us. I'm talking of course about the Bible. So we'll be tackling one of the Bible's silliest stories, David and Goliath.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Oh, fuck yeah. So with that to look forward to, we're going to bring episode 481 to a merciful close. Once again, a huge thanks to Jim and Mark for suffering through one of our least sufferable movies. Be sure to check the show notes for a link to their show, Felacious Trump. Trust me, it is right up your alley. And a perhaps even huger thanks to the Patreon donors that helped make the show go. If you'd like to count yourself among their ranks, you can make a per episode donation at patreon.com slash God awful and there by your own early access to an ad free version of every episode. You can also help a ton by leaving a five star review and by sharing the show on all your various social media platforms. And if you enjoyed this show, be sure to check out our sibling shows.
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