God Awful Movies - 488: Trump by Grace (ep 1&2)
Episode Date: January 7, 2025This week, Dan and Jordan from Knowledge Fight join us to review Trump by Grace, a pro-Trump TV show that was aborted in the first trimester despite their constant protests about how sinful that is.... --- Hear more from Dan and Jordan on Knowledge Fight If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/
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God-awful movies!
Welcome back to the GAMCast, where each week we sample another selection from Christian Cinema because this is the way. I'm your host, Snow Illusions, and sitting 700 miles to my immediate left is my good friend Heath Enright.
Heath, welcome back.
Thanks Noah. Let's talk about American politics in 2025.
That should be fun. Yeah, let's do that for a year.
Happy fucking New Year.
And sitting 900 miles to my northeast is my bad friend Eli Bosnik. Eli, how are you this fine afternoon, sir?
I refuse to be blossomed.
What? Yeah, that's right.
All right. Well, it's good to know, I guess.
We're going to blossom the shit out of you.
Well, now that you've said it. Yeah, that's the bit.
All right. Well, and we're also excited to welcome back guest masochist
extraordinaire and host of the Knowledge Fight podcast, Dan and Jordan.
Dan, Jordan, welcome back.
Hello. It's been too long, but let me just
make sure you guys know we have been
name dropping you the entire time, the
entire time.
It's true.
Mostly around Cranstool.
You're, you're, no, no, no, no, no.
It's called advertising if no one knows who we are.
So tell us, Heath, what will we be
bra, other than Jordan's ego, what will we be breaking
down today?
We watched Trump by Grace.
Will you mention us on your show?
It's the story of making a movie by doing your own research instead of like going to
film school or anything like that.
Right, right.
And Eli, how bad was this movie?
Well if you had trouble taking power of attorney away from your pre-dimension dad
And you wish she had made two 25 minute episodes of a television show to help your legal strategy
This movie I would like to posit something
Brave which is that this is not just the worst thing we've ever brought Dan and Jordan on for and I will remind you we
once brought them on for
Essentially still images about a cult's beliefs about space. This is the worst thing we have ever seen
It is the most concentrated evil we have ever talked about on our show
It's like it's bad in a way that is new to us, right? Like it is reached a new echelon
of bad dumb somehow. Yeah.
I'm going to say that maybe this is a result of what you said earlier about us being masochistic.
But we have already discussed this TV show at length for quite a while. And I tell you,
you are wrong. We both kind of love it.
And this is secretly brilliant.
Yeah. And well, not brilliant.
It's terrible, but it's brilliant to think about.
And maybe one of the most
I think it should be put into a time capsule of like, this is who
this is who we fucking are.
Right. Yes. Yes.
Put it on a golden DVD.
Send it to space. Absolutely.
Yeah. It's this is basically the movie version of that thing in Oppenheimer where he's like,
I didn't know it was going to be shaped like a flower.
Yeah, our hot take was that like, I liked it and hearing you say that it's the worst
thing that you've ever done is like, wow.
All right. Yeah.
This job suddenly seemed a little easier.
You can say it.
Pussy.
That's what you're thinking.
Damn it.
I like this more than cram school.
Yeah.
100%.
All right.
Okay.
I enjoyed the experience of watching.
I laughed.
I cried.
There's a lot going on.
You know, okay.
So here's the thing that happened to me.
And I think this will kind of make sense
of where I'm coming from here.
When I was growing up, you just got hit by adults all the time,
like, whatever.
That was just how it worked, right?
And then I was reading this thing,
and it was all these stories of people
whose stories were exactly like mine,
and they were like, oh, and it was tear-filled,
and it was traumatic and all that stuff.
And I remember being like,
oh, that was a pretty good time in my life, honestly.
I didn't know.
I didn't know I was supposed to be crying
all the time about it.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the thing is like,
for the listeners who are blown away by the difference
in our assessments here,
consider what these guys do every fucking epic.
That's true, yeah. Right, like, consider what these guys do. Every fucking episode.
Yeah. Right.
Like, so what we're doing is nothing compared to watching Alex fucking Jones.
So, yeah, you earned that desk is what we're saying.
Yeah.
Still has not arrived.
May not be coming, but.
Fucking liars at the onion.
We'll see.
All right.
So is there anything you guys want to nominate this one
for being the best at being the worst at?
I'm gonna go with best best
Ghost of a dead wife. Okay. Oh my god
Hates her husband and the husband made the movie and has the ghost of the dead wife just like
ignoring
She disappears mid-sentence while you talk to her.
It's the best.
Oh my, that moment is so funny.
I stopped to weep with laughter for a while, yeah.
Yep, there's some good stuff in here.
I was gonna go with best worst farty couch.
All right, so like, we're gonna watch,
we're gonna go over two episodes of this TV show.
The entire show is this guy sitting on his fucking couch, right wallowing sitting is generous
Yeah beached upon his couch and just every time he moves or God forbid tries to get up this couch just
farts the entire time
and I love it every time.
And it's comedic timing.
And by this, I mean the farty couch is perfect, right?
Yeah.
Because like sometimes it won't fart at all.
And then he'll be like, here's the thing about 9-11.
And it's just like, whew, every time.
Gets him every time.
Yep.
So on a related note, I was gonna go with best worst feet.
Because we will be shooting this man, Lazy Boy On,
the center of the frame of, I'm gonna say, 97% of the shots of this show
are just this man's dirty dirty souls.
Yes. It's a visual metaphor.
He was taunting the foot perverts. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, wiki feet won a lot of awards for this show. I
I'm gonna nominate it for best best since we can do that. I'm gonna nominate for best best
Trumpian auteur. Okay, Brian McLean. I think he's the best
Have you checked out his work in YA novels? I have I have gone deep
Because both of us did research on these people trying to understand
I've seen I would say 80% of the content that he's created and I think he has a
vision and I don't respect it. All right. All right. Well, I can't wait to
break it down further and Jordan did you have a best-worst for us? Oh yeah I had
a best-worst two daughters. I genuinely like to use the term sex worker.
I believe that's a agreed upon term
that doesn't dehumanize them.
But the only way to describe this man's characterization
of his own spawn is my two whore daughters.
Yeah, it is crazy.
It is crazy the way he treats these women.
It's virtually what they're listed on in the credits,
right, like whore daughter one, whore daughter two, damn it.
It should be named my two whore daughters as a TV show.
Yes.
Like in the 1970s, if you watched, oh, it was all in the family and then my two whore
daughters, you'd be like, it just makes sense.
How I met your whore mother.
I feel like we all should do this episode slurring slightly
Have seven rum and cokes next to me
Perfect and Heath is your uncle
Before we begin too far I just want to know and I don't think this is important and yet
I also don't think it's not not important, but this was posted officially five days before January 6. I don't think this is important and yet I also don't think it's not not important, but this was posted officially five days before January 6th.
I don't know if that matters.
Oh no shit.
There might be a reason we didn't get episode three and four is what we're saying.
I don't know if it's important.
Well, I'll tell you what, we have deprived you of these fucking gems for way too long.
So we're going to keep the break brief and when we come back, we'll dive into all the
budgetless assholery that is Trump by Grace.
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All right, Noah.
Thanks.
So, um, what do you say ready to make some goals?
Can they be less goals and more targets?
Depends on what you mean by targets.
Well, I was thinking that's where the better help ad ended.
Everybody all done with that ad now.
And so I said more like Bernie man, Bernie man classic.
Hey guys, you want you wanted to see me?
Yeah.
Yeah, Jordan.
Come on in kid.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
So, uh, well we hired a real-life comedian to punch up our show Trump by grace.
We were well, we were kind of
thinking you fellas would add some goofs you know yeah maybe a wacky ethnic
character yeah ethnic character yeah but these don't seem like constructive notes
really oh well okay so this first note you wrote just says, the funniest thing about this script
is your attempt to spell interior.
But it's true, you tried and missed four times.
All right, well, here on page four,
you just wrote an emerging, shoot yourself in the mouth.
Did you take the note?
I didn't, I didn't take the note, I didn't.
Well, it's a solid suggestion. I don't think it's a solid suggestion.
Okay, look, guys, I get it.
You want bits. You want funny situations.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so how about this?
Big Daddy's up on the roof, right?
Okay.
And then he falls.
Little physical comedy, alright.
Alright, and then he cracks his hangman's vertebrae
and he's just paralyzed.
I mean, he can't move at all. I don't think that's but then I show up and you're this
is the part that you're going to love. I start and I unzip my pants and I start peeing into
his open mouth. But you're not even in this show. I am no and he's drowning, right? He's
drowning. So just drowning in my piss, but he can't even turn his head because he's paralyzed from all the falling. So he's just drowning and
draw. Oh my God. He's just drowning so much. I think, I think maybe, no, no, no, no, no,
stop, stop, stop. Please don't interrupt. And he's just drowning in business. Yeah,
we got it. Hey Jordan, you're almost done in here. The taco bell's getting cold. Almost
done. Still unzipped. You tell them about that whole drowning and piss thing. I just got around to a buddy. Great. And we're back
for the breakdown and we're going to open up wondering if we've accidentally skipped
ahead on the video. Right? So it's just a black screen and somebody else, Tommy. And
then that's it. mood this show moves on
I guess they're trying to do like a a breaking bad, right? Like oh, yeah, you'll understand
Why that is at the end of this program? Hey guys, let me start off vulnerable. Let me start off from my heart
I don't what is that? No, so that's I think he was trying to get there like at the end of the season that he never finished
making Because he went to jail for j6 That's I think he was trying to get there like at the end of the season that he never finished making
Because he went to jail for j6 probably right probably that part because there are no
Characters named Tommy in the movie. Nope that I can tell sure aren't sure aren't we have not met Tommy
So yeah, but so we get that and then we see our hero
He is Dan Oh or Big Daddy depending on what mood he's in in the moment.
Dan-o, Leary, Heath's people,
in case anyone's keeping track, throwing that out there.
It hurt me as Dan.
I didn't like seeing this representation of Dan's.
Yeah.
It hurt me as a human.
Just the fact that he got called Big Daddy.
By daughters.
Yeah, that he paid a couple of young women
to call him Big Daddy. Well, so I honestly think he paid a couple of young women to call him Big Daddy.
Well, I honestly think that's why he's got both names, right?
Because he named the character Dano and then he hired two attractive young women to play
as daughters and he's like, call me Big Daddy.
I think that's what happened.
So we meet him, he's walking through, he's huffing his way through a graveyard to visit
his wife's headstone.
And he's announcing himself and it's so sad as the cold opened.
He's like, that's me lumbering through a cemetery with my oversized Eli shorts that are ridiculous.
My wife died of opioids.
We had dogs.
We loved them.
They all fucking died.
It's so sad.
It's fucking nuts.
And look, in my head, he like, the next thing was like, and then I shot myself. They all fucking died. It's so sad. It's fucking nuts.
And look.
In my head, he like, the next thing was like,
and then I shot myself.
Yeah, right, right.
Blam, and the movie's over.
He introduces his wife by saying his wife was
a casualty of the opioid epidemic.
And look, the people on this program
understand that addiction has nothing to do with willpower.
We don't have any of those problematic beliefs.
And we understand that people of all stripes and kinds get addicted to things. It has nothing to do with you as a person.
But Trump supporters don't. So the fact that he will spend the rest of the film talking to his
wife like she died saving a kitten from a fire fucking weirded me out. Well, I just, I wrote
my notes. It's really, it's really amazing how quickly we adopt language
like became a casualty of the opioid epidemic once it was white people who are overdosing
mostly right rather than Hispanic or black. Yeah. Yeah. Way more sympathetic. No such
kindness of language for Hillary Clinton losing an election. Right. Yeah, I think that's what
I and I think that's where we're gonna begin the conversation here.
Alright?
I find it so interesting because this is a man who has no idea what he's actually saying.
And what he's actually saying is so dark and personal and revealing about who he is as
a person.
Yeah.
Like it is insane what this man is saying and, and you're, you're mocking him when he's trying
to reach out for your help.
He needs you now.
Well, he ain't going to get me.
He's not going to get us.
He says, he starts this off.
He's like, he's like, my wife died and then all my dogs died and I live in my mother-in-law's
house.
I think it's supposed to be his house, but the way he said it, I thought live in my mother-in-law's house. I think
it's supposed to be his house but the way he said it I thought it was the
mother-in-law's house which makes this way funnier, right? Oh it'd be way it'd be
worse if it wasn't if I just assumed it was both his house in the show and also
his house in real life because obviously it's his house in real life. Yeah.
I know that it's his house in real life from other
research that I've done. I definitely thought it was the mother in Los has Dan. Are you
there right now in a pool of blood because we need to make an ally for you. You have
to tell us. Let me tell you, it's not a pool of blood. It's not a pool of blood. I'm in his pool. All right. Bleeding. I cut my foot on the way into his
pool. So now, but he explains to us if Hillary had won in 2016, he was going to leave the
country and we would have been deprived of this show entirely. Lucky us. We could have
had so many shitty people just leave.
He's not the only one who would have made that promise.
Fuck.
Oh, it would have been so good.
Here's the thing that I think is really interesting about this dichotomy is that like the beginning
of the show with the all of this, like my wife died from the pills and all my dogs are
dead and I live with this, uh, this old woman who I'm sort of connected to,, there's a braveness to how dark he's opening up this show.
And then it's contrasted with this,
if Hillary had won, I would have left the country.
And that's so trivial and stupid.
There's a yin and yang there.
It's a fascinating displacement.
Because what he's doing, you can clearly hear him trying to grapple with all of these things
that are outside of his control.
And in order to grapple with any of them, the first thing he would have to do is be
like, well, some of this is my fault.
And he can't.
No, never.
He absolutely cannot.
Never and not even close.
But things that aren't in his control at all are his fault, right?
Because he goes, and so I did what I do best.
I prayed.
No, totally.
And the, and just like this, this is a man who's, who's centered an entire show around
his version of Christianity, a version of Christianity that I think a lot of people
would identify with.
And the very first thing he does is publicly pray and bargain with
God for prayers.
Exactly.
Hey God, I'll do what you want, sure, but first what are you going to do for me?
Yeah, we cut to him praying for Trump's victory into a microphone that's two rooms away, by
the way, for some fucking reason.
I like that he's being vulnerable here. He says that I'm best at is wishing for stuff.
He's a good guy. It's pretty fucking sad. Yeah. So yeah, so we get his, we get his title
Trump by grace and the T and Trump big cross. Very clever. Oh hell yeah. It was a nice touch.
And I want to just say one thing really quick because I feel like I might have misrepresented my position. I want to make sure that anytime
I'm saying that there's a complexity to this, I don't think it's intentional. No, no, no,
I just want to make sure that that's not the presentation that I'm putting forward. This guy
is making an amazing piece of art. So little of what he did was intentional, man. He's stumbling into
complexity by trying to read the words he wrote badly. Yeah. Yeah. And genuine. I think
the best way for me to describe this is like if you read Slaughterhouse 5 and you're at
the parts where he's in an observation deck and aliens are just watching him like, what
the fuck is this guy doing? That's how I felt.
I felt like an alien just going,
what the fuck are you doing?
Yes, anything else is available to you.
You're rich as balls, man.
The Travmadurians are learning a lot about American culture
after watching this movie. 100%.
Travmadurian turns to the other one,
okay, does it have to go like this though?
I swear. I don't wanna be the guy, but. I feel like if I sent him a text at the right one, okay, does it have to go like this though? Like, I swear, I don't want to be the guy, but I feel like if I sent him a text at the
right time, he would have been like, Oh shit, it's on me.
Also speaking of slaughterhouse five, I would describe the editing style of this movie as
unstuck in time, which somebody pay that man.
So, so he prays and then we get the fuck it.
We see the Trump wins headlines spin into view using mode seven from the Super Nintendo.
Sorry, that's a deep cut.
Our retro game nerd fans are going to love that.
Yeah, those nerds will love it.
Okay.
But here's the thing.
He somehow failed to make it stop.
So we just see it spinning.
We don't see the part where it stops.
Yes. And you can read it.
Yes.
Yeah.
I paused it to read the sub headline and it was just boring. It was that the Republicans
controlled the Senate and House. It's like, ah, I thought, I thought we'd have something
fun in here, but there wasn't.
Yeah. You thought there was going to be some fucking QAnon shit in there or something or
something. Yeah.
I would welcome some Lorem ipsum at this point.
And then the first of the daughters, this is Barbara, and she comes just clomping her way into the room.
OK, she's just hitting coconuts together when she comes.
Question for the panel, is she supposed to be walk of shaming
or was he just like like everyone wear a party dress
to my movie oh no that's interesting i could relate to this moment i feel like she had a
hangover from the hillary's about to win that turned into hillary losing party yes we all had
that day that's what we're yeah i had a rough next day we almost brought no i know we've told
this story on air but it is worth repeating we almost brought no I know we've told this story on air, but it is worth repeating
We almost brought no illusions that night to a house full of antiques and rare art
Yeah, that would have been destroyed with mental rage fire. No, it was we would have gotten false fire starter
Oh my god, I think the subtext to the daughters every time they are in frame
They are learning an important lesson from Big Daddy.
Oh, yeah.
That they will forget the moment they leave frame
where they go fuck some stranger
or get too wasted to drive home and then drive home.
Yeah.
And then show up in frame again.
That's the understanding I have of their characters.
Yeah.
So I love that you're going,
doing the deep dive into their motivations.
And whenever my notes are just like, oh, the daughter had an itch on her love, Mike, these
are serious actors. I there's, have you checked the IMDb page of serious, serious. We got
operation hope Holocaust gives grandmother power. That's passed down. She's, that's Katrina Kelly.
Do you hear that?
She's in a Holocaust movie.
All right.
You didn't know that.
You think she's not a serious actor.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Serious actor.
And it gave her superpowers that are Holocaust.
Yes, of course.
And then they were passed down.
So it's not important that mother and grandma
did fuck all with this immediately following
the Holocaust.
We're just catching up with now.
Shut up.
Move on.
The story continues.
Holocaust powers are recessive sometimes.
I get it.
Skips Generations.
Oh my gosh.
It's like an Iron Man.
I'm still sorry.
We have to talk about this.
It's like a Captain America ripoff.
Yes. Yeah. I have to talk about this. It's like a Captain America ripoff. Yes, yeah.
I have to read you this byline.
After genetic experimentation during the Holocaust
gave her great-grandmother great strength
that was passed down through generations,
Hope Silverstein embraced her powers and destiny.
Hope Silverstein?
Hope Silverstein, do you hear that?
Are you serious?
Do you hear it?
Okay.
Hear it, hear my words.
Hope Silverstein.
We are switching the movie right now.
We're doing it right now.
Guys, I'm just gonna bring up,
I said everyone the link on Tubi.
No, look, I joked to Jordan,
and when we were talking about this,
is we're gonna hold you hostage,
and we're just going to watch everything from-
We're gonna do the whole filmography
of everyone in this film. Yes, absolutely.
I'm in a branching path.
No kidnapping required.
Holy shit.
Have you heard of snake resorts?
The only snakes you have to worry about have two legs.
Oh, what seems like a weird name.
No one understands that.
Jordan still I'm in though.
I mean, I watch it.
So OK. So guys, I didn't storm out of the podcast
or anything. I'm reading the descriptions of the other
things.
I'll try to get this.
I'll try to get this actors have been.
I'll try to get my literal first scene in the movie
discussed.
She got Holocaust superpower.
I know, I know.
I'm not blaming you. I get it. Wepowers, no, Lucius. It's an emergency. I know, I know.
I'm not blaming you.
I get it.
We said,
Oops, Silver Steed.
Come on.
So the two daughters come in.
He dances on their grave a little bit because they're like, oh my God, it's like, it was
such a rough night.
Donald Trump won and he's like, I'd like to dance about it.
This is where he stands up and we're first introduced to the farting couch.
Yeah.
The couch just seems to almost shit him out.
There's so much farting and he does a little he does a little dance for him.
It's sweaty and white down in Arizona.
Those are the two things I know.
Yep.
Yep.
And then the title card comes up and it gives us the title of the show again,
Trump by Grace, followed by in a different font.
I'm staying. So these are like scene titles that he's going to do.
Chapter headings, if you will.
Yeah, yeah. Chapter headings.
Vignettes. This is like cinema.
Haven't you seen the Cohen brothers short story?
This is inspired by that. Ob. The clerks maybe, yeah.
So we cut to, he's celebrating Trump's win with his buddy, he chose this name, Joe Bob.
Joe Bob, my man.
Joe Bob is great.
Joe Bob is unabashedly great.
My favorite thing about Joe Bob is that every time he has to sit, they're sitting next to
each other on this couch so they can both be in frame. But Joe Bob wants it to be very
clear how gay he isn't. So he sits as far as is possible and still in the same, like
the chair next to Dano.
I don't think that's the explanation for it.
No?
Agreed.
I think he was dizzy and didn't want to throw up.
It's like, if you throw up again, don't make it in my lap again.
All right.
Yeah.
If he sat back too far, he was going to just conk out.
So he needed to position himself just right to deal with the wobbles.
Yeah.
It felt like a teeter totter.
There's a lot of sunlight and a lot of empty glasses.
Let's put it that way.
If I may recite the first line of this scene,
it's actually pretty important to me.
I transcribed it.
If he, in his whiz, sizz, he win.
Yep.
Now that's writing.
Okay, so we haven't mentioned this yet, strangely enough,
but the two, this guy, the main character
and his buddy, Joe Bob, will just be shit face drunk the entire time they're filming.
I don't know that the main character that Dano ever manages to correctly say an English
sentence at any point in these two episodes.
I don't think he can read when he's sober to be clear, but yes, it's making it worse.
This is a really interesting question too, because in my deep dive into Brian McLean,
I found that prior to doing this, he did a show about 12 steps. Yep. So he's somebody
who has like an interesting relationship with substance, clearly. Did that show do well or did it have one episode
and then stop?
I found episode one and three of it.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
He blacked out for episode two.
Twice as successful as I thought.
I'm not sure if the rest of the episodes
are available anywhere or if he made them.
Right.
But he's somebody who clearly has an issue with booze in some fashion. And so I was fascinated by how that
all like existed in the background of this show. Like I don't understand how anybody
could watch it and not be worried about that. Yeah. Really? Yeah. It is a cry for help through
acting. And I think we all know that person who's crying for help
through acting.
And I just don't understand why it's this guy and why nobody
is dealing with that.
Yeah.
OK, so you guys are concerned with his alcoholism
and his mental health and everything.
And I'm just writing.
Well, concerned is a very strong word.
Yeah, but also let me say, he also
did another series called cruising with grandma, which
is, oh, okay. I didn't really didn't find that one. And the grandma are in a car talking
shit about like the Biden's and stuff like that. Holocaust powers, right? That's implied.
That's implied. Yeah. Yeah. But within twa, like the first couple minutes you see him
surreptitiously pop a pill. Yeah, so like there's oh, I missed that
We watched it. He's good. He's he's good at it
There's a real concern like wow just the drinking I feel I feel worried. He was driving
He was in the car driving and he surreptitiously on camera popped a pill
Do you and it was so smooth? It was like he took somebody's wallet. It was amazing
The master pickpocket of opioid addiction. Yeah, right
So honestly, I was just distracted by the fact that literally the the lighting was so inconsistent in this scene that every time they cut
To a different angle. I would start writing that evening in my notes and then have to go. That's just their lighting is bad
It's funny that you're there because I think at a certain point I became so fascinated by
The what's real and what's not in this guy's vision?
I suppose that I lost all track of like technical issues whatsoever. Yeah, sure
This was this was like suddenly there's a low spot.
It's just his face.
And I'm trying to figure out what he's doing on stage.
Yeah, I get it.
Called suspension of disbelief.
Yeah, totally.
Of a tour.
I never quite got there.
So and I guess the whole point of this scene is that Granny won't take her meds.
And he does this clever thing where he turns her TV off until she does.
And he just wanted to capture that moment.
Thank God for parental controls.
An actual joke.
I guess.
Right.
But he doesn't do it like weird, gritty, unplug the TV style.
He has like an iPad that controls her TV and he tells her nurse to tell her that the TV style. He has like an iPad that controls her TV and he tells her nurse to tell
her that the TV company called and they won't turn her TV back on until she takes her pills.
He's trapping her in a big brother ask 1984 situation. Yeah, right. He's like, take advantage
of the dementia a little bit, you know, I don't think enough people elf on a shelf their moms, and I think that should all start doing it.
All right, so, and then we get,
with that important scene out of the way,
we get another title card, and it comes up,
and it says, Daughters, Death, and Taxes.
That's not, are daughters guaranteed in life?
Nope, they sure are.
That's the saying, right?
Yeah, his inability to know what any aphorism means or like, or get one
right in the movie is the basically the plot. The daughters, daughters in daughters, death
and taxes is, is shorthand for my daughter's being a real pain in the air. Yeah. Right.
Yeah. And that is not guaranteed in life. Nope. I think the implication is obviously
that he's going to daughters require money period. Right. His death., I think the implication is obviously that he's going to daughters
require money period. Right. And I think he just understands that death and taxes are
borderline related to the government and that's it. Deaths related to the government. I mean,
have you seen, have you seen the death penalty lately? Well, I was just saying, have you
seen what this guy thinks of COVID and the vaccines there?
See, there we go.
Yeah, yeah.
You're not looking through the eyes of the auteur, Dan.
You got to look through the eyes of the auteur.
This is where I failed to do that.
I will reconsider.
Hope Silverstein.
Also, we have to talk about this line.
It's amazing.
Dano says to Joe Bob at this point in the movie, I think I'm getting the itch.
And there is never any more detail of what the fuck he meant.
He never clarifies that.
He says it multiple times to multiple characters throughout the film.
And we'll talk about those other characters in a second, but multiple times he'll be like,
I'm going to do the thing again.
And everyone just sort of nods knowingly, right?
It's got real, can I say history of violence vibes, right?
Like we don't need to know what Viggo Mortensen did.
When we see the tattoos, we understand it.
That's how I feel about Big Daddy
in episode one of Trump by Grace.
I think I'm right, am I right?
Am I right?
Accept me onto your side, Dan and Jordan. Shit, I'm right. Am I right? Except me onto your side,
Dan and Jordan. Shit. I'm trying to think. Fuck.
So, but then Barbara, the blonde daughter comes in, she's got something important to
talk to him about. But before she can talk to him about it, him and Joe Bob have to
dunk on Hillary for like four minutes.
It's an interesting moment, right? Because you see occasionally or you'll hear people do these sort of cruel things to their more liberal families.
But you obviously never see it from their perspective, right?
It's just the video that's about to be like stitched and then the guy lost his job at, you know,
whatever tool repair shop he worked at or whatever.
But like, it's really interesting to see this entirely in a universe where that is appropriate
behavior.
Yeah.
Right.
Because it's changed remarkably little from the thing that we believe is inappropriate.
I always assumed that they thought of it, but they're like, no, no, I just say that
stuff and everyone hates me.
I mean, it's a question a lot of the time of like sincerity.
Like, you know, Dan and I were talking about this the other night.
There's a certain sincerity of belief that is different
from the people we're used to lying about or who lie about it.
You know, like this guy actually truly believes some of the weirdest nonsense.
He's not lying to us.
Sure.
He is revealing something deeply personal about him.
And it's not that he is a bad person.
It's that he cannot understand basic reality.
Oh, I think he's a bad person.
And he's a bad person.
I agree, but not in this regard.
In this regard, this is a man who believes
that he is benevolently educating his children in the ways of the
real world.
Yes.
Yes.
That makes him so much fucking worse.
He's insane.
From his three way love seat slash Lacey Blake.
And he's not lying.
You're right.
He's saying like the news is Donald Trump won the election.
This is about the first time that Trump won.
And then he says like, well, bad news is Hillary Clinton is going to cry about it
and she's going to make up some kind of like big lies.
It's amazing.
It's like, I wrote my notes like, yeah, you'd hate to have a losing presidential
candidate spend years trying to relitigate the election based on a lie.
Huh?
That would be really embarrassing.
Jesus.
They go on about this like three different
times in their dumbass show.
That's why it's tragic that there wasn't more episodes. I really like how they dealt with
2020.
Yeah.
Lost episode number three is titled omnipotence. Episode number four is titled socialism and
suicide. So that was the one that I was hoping for oh That would have gotten dark
Yeah
I would have gotten deep and dark and he would have thought that it was a criticism of the rest of society and how wrong
They've been and we would all watch it going like you're actually maybe the person who murdered your wife
That you probably murdered your own wife
inside that you probably murdered your own wife. Jesus.
His hands aren't clean.
His hands are.
His hands are not clean.
Nope.
No cleaner than his feet.
Do you think he did it in episode four and like it's been held up in court, but like
you will eventually get to watch him put a gun in his mouth and just like he blows out
one of his cheeks first and he sort of has to crawl across the floor. Okay.
He does a fight club.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I was going to say that I know that that can't be true because I watched his series
that he did after this called God's trumpet and I was like, well, he didn't have a gunshot
wound to the head.
Okay.
But I actually realized that I can't say that for sure because the entire series involves
him having a bag over his head. Oh, being kept hostage by the deep state. So I don't actually
know. So all of this could be, it all could exist in the same reality. All right. I am
formally inviting you back for that one since you already watched it anyway. There is a
mind that is working here and I don't understand it and I don't think it understands
much.
It's like, no, it is like watching a gibbon learn to use a camera.
I don't understand where his mind works.
Or that fast motion video of the ants navigating the puzzle.
Yes, yeah, right, right.
Piece through the, yeah, exactly.
How did he get that camera?
So how did he get it?
Who sold him that? So now ultimately in this scene though, the daughter has come into him to tell him that she needs
$11,000 to help pay all our bills, right? I was surprised by that amount. I thought they were gonna swing a little lower
Yeah, a very specific almost pulled from the headlines
But yeah
So but he agrees to pay it for the daughter.
And then he turns to Joe Bob after she leaves and he goes, he tells this story.
He's like, you know, my daddy had some words of wisdom one time.
I fucking hate you and I wish you were dead.
I mean, that's not exactly what he says, but that's basically what his daddy said.
And this is where Joe Bob reveals himself to be just the best kind of friend,
which is that you just need this guy who's drunk with you who is like, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, You said it, man. You said it. Do you think Joe Bob's own chair at home is as nice as this chair that he's sitting in right now?
That's the thing. He doesn't have his Fardia chair back home.
He's like a country music version of a hype man for this movie. It's kind of fun.
100%.
I bet if he asked Joe Bob to suck his dick, he would.
I'll say that right now. I'll say something brave.
For Trump.
Alright.
No, and here's the thing about this scene, and I think it was Dan's point especially,
is that he needs his daughter to behave like this. Like, she is in a cry for, like these are,
these are like, parasitic relationships. Yeah, codependent relationships here.
Yes. Absolutely.
Right.
Nobody in the movie, nobody in the movie will not be financially tied to him because on
some level he's aware that unless he is giving everyone in his life, tens of thousands of
dollars or free boost to Joe Bob, they would abandon him and never speak to him again.
100%. Absolutely. And well, I jealously wish that I could do the same
We're gonna pause for a quick break, but we'll be back soon with even more of
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And we're back for more of this shit.
We're going to rejoin the action in the same living room with Dano and Joe Bob sitting
the same farty ass couch.
We get a title card.
This time they couldn't come up with a clever subtitle, I guess.
Right?
Yeah.
The title card is just the title of the show.
Yep.
Yep.
Again, title card, I guess, technically.
So like so far, I guess the plot of this episode is one time me and Joe Bob were getting day
drunk at my mother-in-law's house, right?
Like that's what we've got going on so far in case anybody needed to be caught up.
Well, no, I mean like the subtext is that, I mean the episodes titled answered prayers.
So it's about the fact that he prayed Trump into office and what that means for his life.
So he's dealing with that as he day drinks
with Joe Bob.
Sure.
By just sitting.
Yeah. Have we, have we established that this entire thing is the theme of this entire show
is that this man essentially won a bet with God and now he has to improve his life in
order to protect the president from threats, both foreign and domestic. We understand that, correct?
It's true.
Yeah, he prayed to God that Trump needed to win.
And if Trump won, he would stay in the United States
and fight, whatever that means.
Yes.
And so now Trump has won.
So he has to stay in the United States and fight,
but he has no way of fighting.
Nope.
There's no sense of what that means.
And so he's sitting there drinking with Joe Bob
and it's kind of like, that just is in the background.
Yeah. Having the itch.
Yeah.
How am I gonna fight?
I'm gonna make my daughters feel like shit.
Yeah. That's how I'm gonna fight.
Yeah. Right. That's, that's the starting.
That's the opening salvo.
They're just sitting there on a couch, day drinking.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
First things first, educate the youth.
You say it one way and I say it a different way.
We say it different ways.
Well, yeah, they're day drinking
and they look out the window at the youth,
the two daughters, and they're like,
look at these idiots fucking drinking during the day.
Yes, yes!
Because the daughters are drinking outside.
I know, I mean, but the thing about it that's so amazing
is like these people clearly have
it like him and his real life daughters. He's clearly pampered them and spoiled them in
such a way that he will always have them both dependent upon him and a thing that he can
say he's better than.
Yeah. Despite the fact that he is exactly what they are and they are what he is. Right.
He's fascinating.
Yeah. No, they even say like, I bet they're not discussing anything important.
And I'm like you guys are discussing them.
And two things one is the daughters left saying do you want to go to the bar and
then they end up on the patio drinking.
Why because I think there were they couldn't get a bar to let him shoot there.
Yeah, but then the second thing is Joe Bob when they're talking shit about the daughters being out there
He has a moment of humanity where he's like at least they have each other. Yep
Something like that where it's like why is that line in here? What are you doing? Did that sneak in?
Did you have a thought that you wanted to get? Hey, man, don't be so hard on your daughters
Yeah, and well and then and then Daniel immediately negates it and he goes well two dead batteries still You just have a thought that you wanted to get. Hey man, don't be so hard on your daughters. Yeah.
And well, and then, and then Daniel immediately negates it.
And he goes, well, two dead batteries
still don't start the truck.
Okay. Totally.
And that's when Joe Bob knows that his humanity
has gone too far and he has to go, hey, hey, hey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And cheers.
You're right.
You know what?
He's, he's like the SNL sketch of tiny Elvis. He's
like, you're right. Tiny Elvis. You got it, man.
You got it. You got it. Yeah. Can we, can we talk about the importance of the wisdom
of the truck to these people in this?
Yeah, it keeps coming up. Everything is some damn truck.
So they're complaining about the $11,000 that the daughter owes, and Joe Bob's like,
11k, that's a nice work truck right there.
And I was like, okay, that's a weird unit of measurement for stuff.
Okay.
And then he says two dead batteries still don't start the truck.
So like, this won't be the only two examples where like, truck-based Republican wisdom
is coming out.
Truckees, if you will. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Now, let me say this.
If Joe Bob had continued to have startling flashes of humanity followed by,
hey, hey, hey, this might be my favorite show I've ever watched.
Right? Like, if it later he had just been like,
I think we might be like philosophical zombies, right?
Like, I don't think just because our bodies pump blood
we're necessary having a lived experience. And he was like, right? Like I don't think just because our bodies pump blood were necessary having
a lived experience. And he was like, what? And he's like, double finger guns.
That's how I experienced him though. And I think part of that is the pedigree of Sean Oh, please. Hope Silverstein, baby.
No, Sean Dillingham is like, if you look at his resume, the first credit he has is from
America's Funniest People.
All right. I'm listening.
I'm listening in a video. I'm listening.
From the 90s.
I got hit in the nuts. And then he was on an episode of Brooklyn nine nine. Nice.
And an episode after Trump by grace, after Trump by grace, he was on an episode of better
call Saul. This guy has some skills. There is a local Arizona film scene. I swear to God, there are people in Arizona
who make movies for other people in Arizona.
And they just, I think it's self-contained.
I think we just don't know about it.
And when I look over this man's IMDB,
he may be a permanent truth teller wherever he goes.
For instance, he is in Reflections
and you're all gonna die. And the haunting of butterscotch lane.
Alien abductions with Abby Horn. Seven episodes of I pranked my parents. Whatever that is.
So, okay. So then we, so we cut outside to see what the daughters are chatting about
because they were so good at capturing audio indoors. Why not give yourself a challenge?
Right. And this is where we learned that redheaded daughter lost her job yesterday because the
boss's wife found out she was fucking the boss.
Amazing. Amazing sub. Like here's the thing. This is a thing that happened to this man.
And he's done 100%.
This is not a like, oh, I had an idea.
What would be emblematic of like the Hillary years?
Like for all of his Hillary people jokes,
none of them are this specific to his life.
Yeah.
He wrote down his 20 grievances.
One was Hillary Clinton 19 where his whore daughters
There's also a great moment afterwards where joe bob gets a text from his wife. He goes
I better leave before she thinks i'm pulling a bill clinton nailed it. Okay. Get it boom. Hey joe
joe bob print it we got nobody thinks you're having an affair with anybody
I was on better call Saul. I could fuck whoever I want. I
Think we were probably in love when we first got married
But we've grown into two different people since then and I have not the courage nor the independence to leave her
She waits for the day I die.
And it might come soon,
because I'm driving home drunk.
Yeah, right.
I gave Bob Odenkirchen over the pants heege once.
I did get caught, so this does make sense.
Dan, how dare you?
He's not driving home just drunk.
That's true. What does that mean?
It means he's taken an upper to counteract the drinking.
Yeah, he's taken some pills as well.
If you take an upper and drink, that's not drinking and driving, that's just regular driving.
That's medium. That's sobriety.
It balances it back out.
Exactly.
Do not take drinking advice from a podcast.
So, okay.
Don't take driving advice from at least me.
Anything with Eli Bosnic on it.
You can take the drug advice.
You should take upper advice.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll give you good drug advice. So the next day I guess the redheaded daughter
catches granny at breakfast and tries to borrow a hundred dollars off of her. Now
this is the first we see of Grant. Which again based on granny's physical
appearance she might as well try to borrow a hundred dollars off of one of
the wall sockets. Like granny is shambling from room to room in like an oversized t-shirt stained with
like urine and feces and old people blood.
The notion that she has any dollars, let alone 100 of them anywhere on her person is mystifying.
Yeah.
I'm going to throw this out.
All right. I think she made that choice herself.
I've watched some of Grandma's other grandma, in case you are wondering, is also on many other YouTube videos.
Oh, is she? And she's got to play it.
Hope Silverstein.
She's got big thoughts on on this world.
And I think some of these choices were her own.
She's not like interesting.
She's not the character in the show.
She's, I guess with it in a sense.
Yeah.
In the show, she's like window dressing
and like a prop, a thing that is there.
And then in other videos, she's like the craziest
old Trump lady that you could ever imagine.
Yeah.
She had those vibes. I have a question for the panel here.
The redheaded daughter during the scene is wearing cat ears.
Is that the filmmaker implying that she shits in a litter box at school?
Right. Is that what's going on?
Is that the filmmaker being like, it's probably one of them furries?
I 100% was like, well, I'll just allow that to happen and move on.
I had no thoughts.
My read on it was that it was an empathetic gesture on the daughter's part because the
grandma doesn't put in her hearing aids. And so it's a way to like not shame her to remind her.
Oh, I have to put in my ears.
Yeah, maybe that's.
Yeah, I thought that might be what it is,
but that's way too generous of a depiction of the daughter.
The show hates her.
Yeah, the show hates her.
Oh, absolutely.
So yeah, so she tries to borrow money off of grandma.
That doesn't work.
And then Dano calls her into the living room
where he's smoking a cigar next to his elderly
mother-in-law.
The way this man smokes cigars is such a welcome punishment to him as a person.
Right?
Like, short, had I genie-like powers where his hands uncontrollably sliced him open at
various places with some kind of exacto knife, I couldn't dream up a better punishment than the way he will smoke cigars
throughout this film, just either hitting it like a joint or puffing it
and immediately coughing smoke into his own eyes. It's fabulous.
It looks like he's trying to like pull off a difficult blowjob, right?
Like, OK, I can.
Yeah, I think he doesn't actually smoke cigars and he just wants to look cool,
which is I find it so interesting whenever he chooses affectations that he
believes are going to make him look good, because it says to me that he can
understand that he could look good or bad.
Yes. So the fact that he allows himself to be seen doing all of these other things
suggests he doesn't think they're bad.
So, yeah, so he calls the daughter and he says, Hey, your sister snitched on you. I
know you lost your job. So until you find another job, you have to be the church's butler. Right? Now, this never comes back in any way into
this movie, right? They just, he just saw Seinfeld and he's like, no, a sentence to
be a butler is a, is a TV show thing. Right?
Yeah. And, and there's really not much of an addressing of the fact that he knows that
she lost the job because she was having
sex with her boss.
Well, he does offer some great wisdom when that comes out.
Don't crap where you eat.
No, he doesn't get it right.
Because that that would be him getting it correct.
No, you're right.
That would be him getting it correct while not using shit.
He said, don't crap where you work, which is amazing.
Of course you have to crap where you work.
What do you do when you have to take a shit and there's still six hours left
in your shift? All right.
Now it's good. You don't shit in the bed of the truck unless your trucks away from
work. 100 percent never crap, never crap, never crap, never crap.
And then bees come flying out of his mouth and they As you got it as you got to do your dumb daughter is you got it not eat where you work?
But also like Bill Clinton said eating a cheating
I have confused myself
I'm not sure what's more important Trump or misogyny right now
Shit I would fail the Turing test is what I'm saying right now.
I would have fooled no one.
Does the Turing test involve sobriety?
Yeah, right, right.
You saying I gotta blow into this robot?
If I stand on both legs, maybe.
This scene is maybe the perfect scene of like, what this time capsule should be is that this is a man who believes that his daughter
is just fucking her boss as opposed to like, this is a, this is like a, you haven't paid
attention to me long enough. And like, there's any number of, of emotional familial relationship
problems that could be exemplified best by her fucking her boss coming to him, lying
about it. And then him giving nothing more than,
well, you shouldn't fuck at work.
That's it?
Yep.
You're my father.
Hey, my boss slept with me.
I blame you.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, there's only one person involved?
This is all fucked up, dad.
Help me.
You gave mom too many pills.
Oh, God.
She said her back hurt.
So did I.
So did I.
So did I.
So did I.
And I didn't like it.
And I didn't like it.
She wouldn't fuck me when her back hurt.
So I murdered her.
So I murdered her.
So I murdered her.
So I murdered her.
I murdered her with the lowest.
Deeper. The lowest rated doctor on Yelp in Arizona and me got
together and murdered your mom so I could fuck her six more times.
Like, and that's the other thing. This is all about him and his relationship with his
wife who was a casualty of, of the opioid crisis. And at no point in time does he ever
stop and think,
I wonder if my important to my life daughters gave a fuck. Yeah. Nope. Right. Not at all.
And it's fresh too. Like she died a year ago. They said, yeah, Christmas without mom. Like
it's right. They should still be in a pretty serious grieving. That's probably why he's
drinking so much. It might be. So then
we, we cut to this, like at sometime later, the nurse wakes him up from his couch. Now
this scene is so fucking weird because it's just the nurse wakes him up and says, Hey,
can I leave? And he goes, yep. Hey, do you hate us? And she goes, yep. And that's the
whole scene. Yep. It's, it's not a couch and app. He was passed out. Well, that's no, that's
fair. That's fair. He had his little eye nap pillow thing on and everything. He has a very
involved high pillow. I feel like, okay, so this man is genuinely worried. The eye pillow
is gay, but he really likes it. So he's still using it. Yep. Yep. Taking it back. So the
nurse leaves and then he turns to a picture of his dead wife and gets mad at her for dying for a bit.
Oh, why did you have to succumb to the pills?
Yeah, I think that's fair.
I think that's regular grieving.
I think that would make sense.
I think you do often have like in this kind of situation, you do have displaced anger towards the person who you want most to return to your life.
It makes sense. No, you're right.
This guy is so deeply human and so weirdly alien.
Yep.
Fascinating.
That's the thing, right?
Like, because if you could see this in a normal TV show being a poignant moment, but then
in the next scene, he'll be like, I'm a lizard boy.
Everyone dance to the drum. Thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, th I want to show this to important people. I want to ask Barack Obama what he thinks about it, right?
I want to be like, okay, man, Barry, what are we doing with this?
Barack Obama, do you feel like your policies had a role in creating this?
This guy has strong feelings about you.
What do you think about him, man?
I would also like to talk to McLean. I'd love to get on an interview
McLean just try and gauge his awareness you guys can have
That I don't think I want to talk to him. I think I would have to fight him sooner or later
Yeah, eventually there would be a fight but as in from a distance the inevitable outcome. My answer is yes
You should As in from a distance the inevitable outcome my answer is yes, you should
That would be a good podcast interview in a fight I think if we agreed ahead of time you were going to fight with the end of the interview
It would add an interesting twist to the question
I think it I think it goes back to where I was the way I was raised with that story earlier of like
Oh, you know you're like there are some people who need to listen
But who cannot listen because where they grew up in order to listen you need to be knocked on your ass first
Like that was how okay. All right. Yeah. So in a lot of situations
We're like in that we're in the present where we're like, hey listen, we're not all fucking apes man
But some people are apes man. So maybe what we're saying is that sometimes violence solves problems. That's what I'm saying. It's
Saying that in order for certain people to listen to words they need
First I'm saying it does solve problems
I'm not agreeing with Jordan, but what he's saying is it's a facilitator
The answer it's just part of getting you to the right no exactly we could use booze
Theoretically, but I think it would go the wrong direction and wind up with the fisticuffs again, right?
Yeah, you get there one way or the other so all roads lead to listen. We're talking about health care now. That's the
So then we get another title card, which is good because I thought we had forgotten
we were doing scene titles and this one is titled the Holy Spirit. So again, we start
where we already were him napping on his fart couch or whatever. And then he wakes up again
at this point and I guess he's had a revelation.
He's definitely signaling that through his facial expressions.
Yeah.
He's fucking barreling the camera.
He is doing so much face acting right now.
He's saying in his fucking head over and over again, face act, face act, face act.
So we should explain what's physically happening in the universe,
because it's so important to understand this scene.
He has, you can see it.
Democracy doesn't work is what's happening.
Yeah, 100%.
That for sure.
He has an earbud in his ear and he has recorded the lines of this monologue and he's listening
to them before he says them.
100%.
We can see that's what's happening.
So he's sort of doing it as divine revelation, but like it's real.
It's so real. Like we're actually watching this man be surprised by the words he wrote
and recorded for himself to say. My notes are in order, if I may, if I ever win a billion
dollars, I'm just going to make Keith watch this scene over and over again. Keith get
closer to the screen, put get closer to the screen.
Put your tongue to the screen.
So here's what he actually says. He wakes up.
He wakes up, by the way, with a glass of whiskey with ice in it next to him.
Right.
So this guy's short nap hasn't been that long.
He goes, it was a miracle.
And then he waits for the next line in his headphones.
He goes a message.
And then he waits.
God's grace.
And then he waits an undeserved paper and he just delivers the entire
monologue like that.
Yeah.
But the monologue is all about, I guess, him realizing that God answered
his prayer specifically.
So it's really his fault that Trump won.
And now he's got to make good with all the promises he made to Jesus.
Right? Yeah. He's made to Jesus. Right.
Yeah, he's on the hook.
Yeah.
What do you think this guy believes about what happened next?
Because this was before Biden got elected.
So like, does he think Biden was God, like, just taking a quick mulligan and being like,
I'm switching over?
I'm sorry, that did not work out.
I think Dan can answer this because Dan watched the follow-up series, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how does that play out?
If you were going to say like, in this case, this is a story about his regular life.
If Trump had won, imagine his regular life.
If Trump had lost.
And I believe Dan can explain the plot of the follow-up series.
Well, I, yeah, I would, I think that, I don't know, this is going to get into a grand thought
and I apologize in advance.
Take us there, Dan, baby.
Look at me.
Hey, if there are thoughts in this fucking show, yeah, I want to it up.
Speculum.
I think that this, uh, these two episodes perfectly crystallize this idea of I have prayed for Trump to win anyone and now I must
become a soldier in some positive vision of what Trump's win is going to mean.
And that's why there's only two episodes because it's a dead end.
There's like these good intentions and all of this that he has, but it's not really all
that interesting.
It doesn't excite you.
You don't really want to get better.
It's just a feeling that you had in the moment and the feeling of the obligation to God that
he's feeling in that greatly acted staring at the camera moment.
When you're talking to about the like, what is it when Biden wins it? Like he does
two episodes of this, two lost episodes that we can't find of Biden by grace. No, he then
starts doing this God's trumpet series, which is predicated on he has written this children's
book about the resurrected rock star, Zach masters, which is a real thing, which he actually did
right.
What?
Right.
And so the God's Trumpet series is the globalists have kidnapped him and are holding him hostage
because his book is too dangerous to their evil plans.
So it's like, that is what is more interesting.
That's more exciting.
That's where the story
inevitably goes. It's more exciting for Biden to be the president and him to be a hero in
opposition trying to take down the president. Exactly. Then it is for him to accidentally
win a bet with God and then have to work out. Yeah. Right. Right. That's interesting for
a minute, but there's, he just run out of track. If I wanted to work out,
I would already be in shape.
There you go. Instead of on my chair,
drinking and smoking like an adult.
Yeah. Well, we'll get to the,
we'll get to the working out thing in the next episode.
You got to have a nemesis though. That makes sense.
Like the deep, the globalist deep state,
like led by Hope Silverstein with superpowers from the Holocaust.
Exactly. And that's the point is that the nemesis in this show,
if allowed to be examined, is within him.
Yes. Right.
And that's why there is two episodes of this show, because otherwise,
as his self-improvement, he would start to realize how distant he is
to his daughters. He would start to realize, Oh my God, I only have a relationship with
my mother-in-law through a nurse. I think he would start to realize these things. It
would be a problem. No, if I am the villain in my show about me, I am the villain in my
life. Yes. What does that say about Trump?
Oh, interesting. So, okay. So we got to go quick on through this last bit, but should
we get the, we get our final title scene, which is five minutes. And this is where he's
going to sit outside with his dead ghost wife telling her how much he would give for five
more minutes with her.
And she won't talk to him at all.
She silently, yeah.
I think this one is actually fascinating because it's right next to the, I'm listening to my
own recorded lines in my head scene.
So he's got the, the last scene, he's got the camera straight ahead.
He's listening to his own lines as he speaks them.
I mean, waiting patiently to listen to them and then speak them
But in this scene now, we've got it at a three-quarter angle. He's not looking at the camera
He's kind of looking at what he truly believes is his dead wife in the moment and it sounds natural
He's not acting here. No, I don't see any really grieving his wife. I think you're right
This is his best work by far.
Which is crazy.
It's fucking nuts.
He showed it to us.
I didn't ask him to record his grieving
and then give it to me.
He showed it to me on purpose.
Yes.
Out of his own free will.
Vulnerable artiste, absolutely.
But Jordan, that response that you have is predicated on our belief having not, we
don't really know this for sure, but I believe his wife is dead.
Oh yeah.
The guy who made this show.
Yeah.
100%.
I think all his dogs are dead, man.
I think all of it is really, yeah.
Yeah.
All of this shit's really sad.
Casualties of the, uh, nevermind.
Opioid epidemic.
Yeah, right. Right right dog opiates
dogs back hurt and I couldn't fuck it Jesus so but then the thing is though is
that because this is just him improving his grief it ends he's trying to end
with something profound and he goes you know but that's the thing about life. Death happens eventually.
But then the ghost leaves before he's done.
It does.
The ghost.
I think he thinks that's a reveal that when it disappears,
you're going to be like, oh, the wife's not even there, but it's not.
Well, like we obviously know.
And so when she disappears, it's like she just got sick of his bullshit.
This is where I think it is actually profound. I think that there's an accidental profundity
to this. And that is that the episode is titled answered prayers. And he has two prayers.
One is that Trump be put into presidency. The other is that he gets five more minutes
with his wife. He gets both of those things.
And well, cause at the end, that's the metaphor.
Yeah.
The visual language is that she is sitting there with him.
I got you.
Okay.
And he doesn't realize that she's there.
He is taking for granted the five minutes that he's being given with his dead wife while
he sits out by the pool.
And so she disappears in a way
of like, yeah, I'm here. I'm always here. You don't even realize in the same way that
he's taking, he's taking for granted his current daughters who are alive, the way he's taking
for granted his mansion that he absolutely did not build with his own money. Yeah. Super
cool. It's super cool. Drunk friend. Yeah, right. His super cool drunk friend.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's taking advantage of all of these people,
or he's taking for granted all of these people
and his own show about trying to understand himself
taking advantage of them he can't follow through on.
That's fucking amazing.
And his ghost wife poofs away like a therapist being like,
okay, our time is up.
Our time is up.
Exactly.
There is something within him that knows.
There is a thing inside of him that knows that he's trying to get out and he is killing
it in front of our eyes.
Well, yeah, because then we cut to him saying his prayer, right?
He's like thanking God for letting Trump get elected.
And he starts talking in all of these vague ass vagaries or whatever,
these fucking cliches where he's like, God, let's make this ride
the ride of my life. And we're like, what ride?
What are you even talking about?
Is trucks something with trucks?
Is truck rides wisdom? If I stop drinking for more than three hours, the thoughts are so mean, God.
God, the thoughts are so mean.
I don't, I, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
There you go. And credits and credits right after that.
Now that's a show.
Well, and then there's another issue with these prayers too.
And that is that like he's offered something to God for Trump being put into the presidency,
but he has not bargained for his wife's life.
Oh, interesting.
That's true.
Interesting. He's like, I ain't going to do. Oh, interesting. That's true. Interesting.
He's like, I ain't going to do a whole fucking bow flex for the bitch.
He said when he's talking to her that he would give it all up for five more minutes with
her when they're talking about that by the pool, but he doesn't make a deal with God.
No, you're right.
To me implies that that's not a deal that needs to be made.
She and her love is always there. And he fucking feels
like he needs to give God something a quid pro quo. See like Russia gate. That's fascinating.
I just, I, I, I understand where you're coming from. And I think I have a different point
of view on it. And that is, I think that he is in a, unable to think that God can actually
do it of these things
He inadvertently limits his own God because he's like well, right God can't bring her back to life
But God can get Trump elected his faith is ultimately meaningless. It's based purely around bullshit
Yes, it's basically I he he prays that one sixth of the time the dial come up three. Yeah, exactly. Yeah
Maybe Trump can bring her back to life? Well, all right. Well, in a world that loved us,
that would be the end of the show. But in this world, we've got a whole other episode of this
shit to do. So we're going to take a break first. But first, let me give episode two, The Hard Cell.
Will an incident be incited? Will action rise and or fall? Will there be a plot? No. Find out what will
happen instead when we come back for episode 2 of Trump by Grace.
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From the makers of Trump by Grace last man standing and pretty much all the Gramps movies
You kids have a thing or two to learn from me
I'll tell you that comes a series about a rapid change in mood, financial planning, and linguistic fluency.
I'm leaving all my money to the concept of racism.
Dad, please don't.
A man done with all the back sass and the talk back.
Never tell me where to put my shoes.
Grandpa, it's Christmas.
And the ability to drive
Stop sign came out of nowhere
early onset dementia
the show
Wait what Obama's Muslim sponsored by poisons for death do it you coward
Hussein Obama.
And we're back for episode two, and we're literally going to start with a previously on reminder in case man drunkenly mumbles from fart couch was too much for you to keep in your
head altogether. Right?
Previously on Trump by Grace, I had 18 rum and cokes and it's not going good.
I really like my distilled sugar cane to be a little sweeter, so I had coke to it.
And you're watching my feet slowly rot.
Hope you're enjoying.
Dan peeled back my skin and saw the baby my mother loved more than she ever loved anyone.
And then I closed it tight and sewed the husk up
on top of it anyways.
Did I mention that my daughters suck?
Yes.
At this point I wrote, it's like he made a movie
where everyone he knows falls for
you've got a spot on your shirt.
Yeah.
I like whenever after one episode you do a best of.
Yes, right?
Because it's like he chose these not for plot reasons like these were his like, oh man
I got us I got to run these back people might have if you didn't watch the first episode
Well, at least you're gonna get the best jokes, right? The highlights if you will not like oh the plot is advanced
No, wait, yeah, right those those plot lines include him turning to Joe Bob and going, I think I'm getting
the itch.
That's how it ends.
Right?
Yep.
So then we get this amazing scene where he, I guess, justifies writing off his drone by
taking his dog for a jog that very quickly turns into a walk? Yeah.
It's hot out. It's Arizona.
Yeah.
I so wanted to find out later that he like destroyed the
camera in this drone by like aiming it at the sun for this
long.
And the point of this scene, right?
The point of this drone dog walk is that there was a rant so
constant and so unhinged that he couldn't bother to
shoot it on his living room couch like Joe Bob couldn't go long enough without urinating
on himself while he sat there and said this.
So it's literally just the desert of his soul personified while he's like, I think Ronald
Reagan said it best.
No he didn't.
He never said anything best. Yeah, well then it wasn't said very well, yes.
Unless he said, I have dementia,
please fake my signature until I'm no longer president.
It's not the thing Ronald Reagan said the best.
I think the exterior and the outdoors is just,
it's supposed to feel inspirational.
I think he was trying to get that vibe and it missed.
He was going for Rocky.
He was straight up going for Rocky.
Like you were supposed to look at this man attempt
about to turn his life around.
In essence, that's what he believes
from the palatial Arizona mansion that his dad's money bought.
Yeah. Turn his life around in a bright red matching sweatsuit that he also wrote off.
Totally. Well, that's the that's the armor of God.
He's the full armor of God that he's putting on.
And again, I believe him.
I truly. And now here's the thing about this little monologue of his.
I believe
He believes that he needs to get in shape
Help the president of the United States to help the president make America great again with his jogging skills Yes, that's what the rant is and it's dog and it's dog. Yes
Right, right, right, but I feel like you're not clearly understanding this. This is not a man
talking on TV about how he's going to get in shape and clearly making an exaggerated metaphor
or embellishing or indulging in any number of literary devices. This is a man who believes that God, the God of black holes and the universe
has chosen him to get in shape
to help the president of the United States against blank.
You understand that that is a belief he holds.
Well, and to do that by making this show, which is about him
making this show ultimately. Right? Right. That's, that's something that we need to address
that we haven't yet is that the revelation that he had in the first episode, the Trump
by grace, what he's going to do to hold up his end of the bargain with God ultimately
is the show that we're watching.
Yes.
Because he starts an entertainment company called Lodestar, which is the company that
made this show that we're watching.
Exactly.
So the act of doing the things that are on the show are like a spiritual necessity.
Yeah.
If he walked out of his house in the last shot of this TV show and he was in the village of from
It would make the same
I
Promise you I promise you one of my favorite authors is Ken Kesey
And if one of the characters in one flew over the cuckoo's nest said half of this shit
You'd be like, well, yeah, they're supposed to be there. Yes
said half of this shit, you'd be like, well, yeah, they're supposed to be there.
Yes.
Yes.
Jordan, Jordan, do you think we're not gonna believe you
that Ken Kesey is your favorite, right?
I said one of, but also fair enough.
I think I could have seen you from across the street
and been like, that guy loves Ken Kesey.
I don't know what to say.
It seemed like you thought we wouldn't trust you.
There.
So then we get our title card for this.
And this is the first title card or like subtitle card or whatever for this episode.
And hey, he's figured out how to put the subtitles in the same font as the title
in this one, which is a big step.
So this one, the scene title is The First Lie.
And I'm like, no, no, We've been through a few by now.
That's a lie, sir.
Yeah, right.
So now this is the bit where his his daughters are in the other room talking about how Trump
is going to get impeached and then Hillary will become the default president.
Okay.
Now I have to say this was a fascinating insight into his mind.
Right. say this was a fascinating insight into his mind, right?
Because it didn't occur to me for him to do theory of mind of us, right?
And what he thinks Democrats wanted from Trump's impeachment was that Hillary Clinton gets
to be president.
Think about how little he has to know about all the things to think that's what we
think. Well, so I think what he was doing there was conflating because there was all that dumb
shit from idiots on the left saying that, you know, if Jill Stein got her recount, then Hillary
would win or some nonsense or whatever. So I think he was conflating that with the impeachment.
And then he just put that all together as one thing in his head, right? Which is still, that is still
a fascinating insight into the jumble of brain cells that he calls a thought, right?
But from watching as much of the sort of right wing media stuff as I do, I know even until
like last week, it's been a constant obsession of how Hillary is going to, you
know, weasel her way into being president.
So like this to me, it felt like that makes total sense that you would think this.
Yeah, I think you are mistaking the idea that just because there were some examples of a
thing like what he's describing happening in a media sphere, you have to remember that
his access to that media
sphere is zero to none. He is only understanding information from the right wing media sphere.
So it doesn't matter if somebody on the left was saying any of this nonsense. What matters
is that the right wing was going to say, they want Hillary Clinton to be president. Whatever
any of them tell you about laws, what they
want is for Hillary to be president.
See some asshole tweeted it once.
Right.
Well, yeah, because he asked the daughters, he's like, where are you getting this?
And they're like the news, like Facebook and Twitter.
Right.
Because the right wing says that the news is telling them this.
Yes.
But they're the ones being told.
Yeah.
So, but the important thing is that he's now going to mansplain impeachment to his daughters.
Incorrectly.
Well, yeah.
So, the thing is, what's really happening here is this man wanted to own some libs in
a argument.
So, he paid some women to pretend to be his liberal daughters so they could
win an argument for a change.
But even in that, even in that construction, I don't think he does.
No, no, you're right. You're right. He manages to lose even that.
He loses his shower thought to himself in his movies.
Yeah, it's awesome.
Even though the fake version of his like, you know, sort of conversation or debate opponent
is like, ah, you know, like she's even very, she's a very soft opponent that he has, he's
scripted for him to go up against and he still loses.
Yeah, he still loses.
They're tragic.
There's a line that he repeats and it reminded me of that tweet.
I know I've talked about it before, but there's a tweet that's like so much of what
boomers think our morals are actually just lead poisoning.
And the line that he repeats twice,
Trump colluding with the Russians is like me colluding with Al-Qaeda.
But the thing that's so brilliant about it is there's no follow-through,
and he just says it again.
Right? He says,
Trump colluding with Russia, let me hear you again. I disagree. I think this is actually the
funniest thing that happened. I know, I mean, I agree with most of what you said, but you're
missing the one in between line, which is he says, obviously he says his joke that he thinks is funny
twice. Yeah. But in between, what's actually funny is that the daughter he wrote for himself goes,
that's not true.
Is it, daddy?
As though there is a very real possibility
that he could be working with Alcada.
She is not she is not like, well, what a great joke, dad.
She's like, wait, do we have that capability?
Right. Well, what a great joke, Dad. She's like, wait, do we have that capability? Right.
Well, yeah, there are so many ways to refute this whole Trump's going to get
impeached and then Hillary gets to be president thing.
What he goes with is Trump didn't collude with the Russians, which is untrue.
He did though.
We do know that.
So did this guy collude with Al Qaeda?
Right? No, that's the
it's the only I mean, it wasn't the oil business.
So I mean, who knows what kind of dealings he had?
Yeah, it's like H.W. being like, hey, man, we never sold Code King bullshit.
Now, so I bet and I should point out to that when I say that he like, you know,
the Trump didn't collude with the Russians, I'm having to translate out of this guy's drunken ease, right? Like, like he never actually
you always have to sort of interpret his points like old biblical passages.
I like that. I like that. There's always a deeper meaning behind the meeting. He speaks in parables in a way.
See my whore daughters are okay.
So then we get we get this compromise scene title that says meet Dave the financial guru.
Right.
Because it's first it says meet Dave and then it switches to financial guru as though he
was in an argument with himself I guess.
I think I think he got sued by Eddie Murphy.
I rewrote that title to, I'm not racist.
Right, yes, there is a black guy in my show.
Everyone says I'm racist, but I'm not racist.
Yeah, I love this scene because it's what a stupid person
thinks a rich person does with their financial manager.
Yes.
As we have all hinted at right
There is no question that this guy
inherited his dad's emerald mine or whatever the fuck it is and he's just sort of
Scared into the middle distance collecting residuals forever
But in a movie he has to represent himself as someone who takes care of his own money
So he basically is asking this guy about his offshore accounts.
Yes. Got to move them back.
He's got a manila envelope that has three pieces of paper.
He turns to his financial manager and he goes, is this everything I have offshore?
And he goes, yep. He goes, put it on shore now.
I need you to swim out and get the gold back.
I know we're doing the end of the flamingoo brief thing that John novel, but I need it.
The boat can't not get out.
What dry off, dry off my money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he wants to bring all this money back into America to help make it great again.
And the financial manager Dave, he goes, Oh, you have some ideas. He goes, yeah, I got a few ideas percu-clayton, per-pack-clayton.
He thinks the way I spell.
So, and so Dave says, well, you know, my, my nephew just started a company apropos of
nothing and goes, Oh, what's the, what kind of company goes social media to which Dano says what's social media and then the financial guru is like you
know Facebook and he gestures around his face yes like this kind of book
Facebook Twitter Google and I don't I don't think Google's a social media
company no no and they had one for a minute, but that didn't work out.
But Dave's nephew's starting one.
It's still the only one I'm allowed on.
It's the only social media I was able to use responsibly.
I find this to be one of the more unbelievable moments.
The idea that this character doesn't know about social media is shocking.
Yes, right.
Because he's already yelled at his daughter for getting news from Facebook and stuff. So that's ridiculous. But I do believe he probably maybe, I don't know, just hears about things from social media more because he I don't feel like he has the sobriety to use a computer.
Read a whole tweet. Yeah. Yeah. He strikes me as someone who like, they're later in this episode, The daughters are shocked and worried when he's not in his chair. Yeah
And immediately begin fantasizing about his dad. Well, yeah, we'll get to that
Yeah, but so yeah, but he's like, all right call your nephew with the social media company
So get him on the phone so he gets on the phone with him. What are you texting? I'm an adult man, sir.
That's not how you speak to me. Never mind.
You can talk to me like that. Okay.
Alright. Fine. Cool.
Okay. I cannot say this enough
and I think Noah and Heath can also speak from
their Christian hearts and say this as well.
I cannot tell you how many
calls exactly like
the one we see in this scene
I have been on.
Yes!
Yes!
Where some guy who thinks he's the big kahuna does this bullshit thing and that phone call
100% of the time is followed up by him calling me back to go, hey, I actually can't do any
of the things I said I could do on the phone.
You have to talk to Cindy over it.
I'm just the general regional office man, a paperclip doctor.
Oh, my God.
I had a guy call me that was sure that he was going to buy my podcasting company
from me at one point, and just it was this goddamn conversation
with this guy for fucking eight minutes until I made him understand
that that was stupid.
Yes.
I'm not gonna say who, but two of us worked for this guy.
Yeah.
I wanted us to do a reverse mortgage
on the podcasting company.
Yeah.
Okay, well that's who you work with.
I don't think he knows what any of that means.
Okay, yeah.
I'm thinking it's Bill Gates.
I think this scene is interesting for what it says about the man's self-image.
So this scene I would like to call, I'm not a racist even though everybody calls me a
racist.
And this scene is essentially him speaking to a black man as though he was a servant
at best.
Yes! Right, like, no, it ends with him going like, now get back to work.
Back to work, Dave. Yes. And Dave, the actor suddenly becomes Dave the black man. And I
took a picture of his face and texted it to Dan because Dave, the black man does not want
to be talked to like this. How dare you, sir. And this conversation, hey, listen, get him on the horn. You do not,
again, do not talk to me like that. Say please say something,
say anything other than get him on the horn for me. Do you mean
my nephew on my phone? Fuck you. Right? Jesus, I wanted to fight
him. And this is the scene where he wants to prove he's not a
racist. Yes. Yeah amazing
Yeah, right. So he gets the guy on the phone. He says I have three questions for you
Do you believe in the Lord who'd you vote for and are you married or have a serious girlfriend?
The third one was strange I didn't expect that that seemed seemed like why? Right, because he doesn't. Good Christian man. Good Christian man is married.
I guess.
That way he's not out fucking my two whore daughters.
Fair.
Well, being married hasn't stopped anyone from fucking his whore daughters.
Well, regardless, the three questions, the answers check out and he's like,
perfect, I'm going to invest all my money in this social media company of your nephew.
And I was like, okay, that's dumb, but this goes so much better than truth social.
So it does go better by definition.
But it's, it's even dumber than that because he's not investing in the company.
He's hiring this kid, this nephew for a job that has not yet been defined. We'll, we'll get there.
We'll come back to this. Yeah. I think he's the one filming the show, right? Like that.
I think so. Yeah. That's where it goes is that this is the media company he's hiring
to make his own TV show. Yes. Right. Yeah. I think ultimately that that's what we're,
we would take away from it if there were more episodes. But yeah, that's the sense that you get.
Yes. It's the making of the tea show, the TV show. Yeah. Much like Seinfeld.
Really? Yeah. If you think about it, it's just meta. So, okay.
He's got to learn how to swoosh out of a doodly-doo and then get into like the real.
So then, so we get him and Joe Bob, they're watching the news later,
talking about how much Trump didn't collude with the Russians. Right now, there was a good, you know, obviously, I'm a podcaster,
bit of an audiophile here. The weird sound effects that kept showing up in one headphone
and not the other during this scene were fucking fascinating to me because I spent the whole
time trying to figure out how one would accidentally do that. And I cannot think of any way it happens.
Yeah. Was it the left ear?
It switched. It switched. It was the left ear for a while and then it was the right ear.
Interesting because I only watched it with the right headphone.
Oh, okay.
I assumed that stereo wasn't going to be a big part of the sound design.
Right, Ryan. Look what you missed out on. You missed like half the movie.
I assumed that a television was on.
Yeah.
That while they was filming,
someone was watching television and they were like,
Craig, do you mind?
And Craig was like, fuck you.
I do mind, yeah.
Maybe it had something to do with like feedback
from the earbuds that were feeding the lights.
Yeah, right.
Or something.
Yeah.
So, but regardless, they managed that the,
the point of this scene though is that the nurse comes in and says that granny
wants to go to Walmart and they say, what does she need? And, and,
and the nurse says feminine supplies,
which Joe and Dan will have a great big laugh at lady stuff.
Do not call him Joe. Call him by Joe.
Sir, have a little respect. Lady stuff. Do not call him Joe. Call him by his proper name. Oh, Joe Bob. I'm sorry.
Sir, have a little respect.
Multiple episodes of Better Call Saul.
Thank you.
Really?
But then he says, at this age, when she says feminine needs, she means flowers and dirt.
What the fuck does that mean?
I don't know.
Ladies love gardening.
I guess I genuinely think this is another like I think that the the oh grandma's
feeding the chickens line, which will be I think is later.
Yeah.
But is another 30 second scene like I think these are things that he directly pulled
from his life that he thinks are hilarious.
Yes.
Like he thinks that when he this actual thing happened in his life and he actually turned
to his Joe Bob in real life, he said these actual words and Joe Bob laughed and then
they put it in the show.
Right.
And he's like, write that down or 100% remember it.
Remember it.
I would.
None of us is going to write that down.
Yeah.
And what also happened in his real life was right after that, he was like, but
yeah, Walmart's fucking fucking awesome. Let's go to Walmart.
Yeah, he goes and let's go to Walmart. What are we doing here?
I legitimately felt at that moment unsafe.
I was worried about him standing up.
I was worried about the idea of him going in public.
He seemed so drunk that I was like, you can't drive.
Yeah, who's driving? Who's driving?
The nurse better drive. That's the only way this works.
Even granny on all the pills would be better than this guy. Yeah. So, and then, so they
leave and then the daughters come in and they see him not in the chair. And like Jordan
was saying, they panic. They're like, oh fuck, you think he's dead?
He's probably dead if he's not in that fucking chair right there, you know?
He doesn't do anything else.
Except sit there, drink, and be a dick.
And they're like, do you think he's dead?
And they're like, I don't know, you want to go shopping?
And they're like, yep, I do.
I thought they were all going to meet up at Walmart, and it was going to be fun.
Me too.
It was a setup for that. Imagine writing other people talking this way about you behind your back.
Right.
That you can write your family saying anything about you.
And what they say two sentences in is maybe he's dead.
Let's go shopping.
You know, one of the best one of the best writing
lessons that I ever learned was I
was 19 and I was just taking
this like I had just dropped out of my first
college. So to kill time,
I was in a community college before I
drop out of my second college.
And I took a playwriting
class. And one of the best things that ever
happened is that I wrote this whole thing.
And then the guy brought in people to speak the words aloud.
And when I heard the words out loud, I realized that I hadn't spoken them aloud before and I threw them all away. I was like, no, no human being should be allowed to write these words, let alone say them out loud.
And I assumed that this is what other people would do
when they hear that.
And instead this guy was like, put it in forever.
I want it forever on the world.
I want my great grandchildren to be able to see it.
Yeah. Totally.
So then we get Dano showing off
his new exercise machine to Joe Bob.
This is the best.
That's the whole scene.
I love this scene.
It's just in real life being like,
Joe Bob, check this out. I got a bow flex. I think it's brilliant. He goes, he goes,
you can do 20 different exercises on it. I'm like, you can do so many more than 20 exercises
on that bucket. What are you talking about? No, but Joe Bob can only do two of them. Yeah. He's got, this is in his bedroom.
And his bedroom has, by the way, a four-poster bed with a canopy and a bow flex next to it.
The whole scene is so very sad.
And his guitar.
And his guitar. And then he's like, I ordered a bench too for weights and weights for the dumb bells.
He's got a weight bench coming for his garage.
I got the Widow or Starter Kit is what it's called, actually.
Right. But do you not hear the genuine hope Silverstein in his voice?
Yeah, he believes he's going to get better.
It comes with a shammy cloth for it says tears and come.
I don't know what that means, but I'll figure it out
Here's the thing right? I when I was looking at that four-poster bed with the fucking the little hangy bits
What's it called the canopy the canopy bed?
I was looking at the canopy bed and I was genuinely struck by this horrific moment of humanity, right?
Because he didn't order that bed. No his wife ordered that bed
Right, and he was like anything for my princess and he wanted the bow flex instead
Yeah, and now he's all alone in a canopy bed
Do you know how fast I would kill myself?
When do you think that man makes it all the way up the stairs to bed?
Yes, you're right.
How dare you imagine he can make it up those stairs?
He's not even going to make, he's not even going to try it because he knows he'll fall
and kill himself.
He keeps the fucking eye pillow right there by his farty couch.
Yeah.
No, the shape of his body in the couch makes a suction.
There's no way he's getting out. The body in the couch makes a suction. There's no way
The bed the beds a memorial
But that's what's so human about it is that it is 100% a memorial yeah
So then we cut to the do you think she died in that bed?
Maybe I bet he found her there. Okay. It was in the car. Shut up before this scene ends.
He's showing Joe Bob this workout equipment and then Joe Bob's like, let's celebrate with
a beer.
Yeah.
And then, and then Dan was like, yes, fuck yes.
And they're both out of breath from walking all the way over to the bow flexion back.
Yeah.
Right. And I think that that's such an important moment in this idea of self-improvement
that is being shown in the context of this, this, uh, this episode, they are not sincere
and serious about whatever commitment to fighting God's battle there is. It just feels good
to pretend to like they are. So it's feels good to pretend like they are.
Yeah.
So it's feels good to look at the bow flex, but it also feels good to forget about it
and go get a beer.
And don't have a beer.
Yeah.
God said we can start with a cheat day.
It's cool.
Let's start with one.
It's accidentally so revealing.
Yeah, no, it's, it reminds me of like two boys coming up with the perfect snow fort.
Yes.
There's no intention of actually building parapets
out of his nose.
His company's just like that too.
We'll get there eventually.
But first we have to have this scene where the two daughters,
they try to pull in, but he's put weights now
in the garage where they normally park. So they have to come in and be way too angry about it, like
a high school play.
Right. And he has to be monstrous about it. Right. He's like, you'll park out front with
the guests because this is my house and in my house you live by my rules. And Joe Bob's
like, that's right, Bob.
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suck. He has. Yeah. He thinks that they're bad people for complaining about their parking
spots for the wrong reason. They are. I agree. But we think for very different reasons, they
are bad people for said thing. And again, he is at fault for almost all of it at the core.
Right.
Because it is a dig move.
Like if you're, if your daughter's normally park in the garage, I don't give a fuck that
it's your garage and you pay the bills.
It's a dick move to move a bunch of shit in there and not say, Hey, I'm using the garage
for something different now and let them find out as they pull it.
Right?
Yeah.
You want to surprise them with inconvenience. I don't give a shit. They have more than one parking spot. Fuck you. Fuck
you. How dare you waste Arizona on your three parking spots. There's a national park that
could be made where his house was burning all down.
I also, I love that he goes, the daughter goes, this isn't over.
And then she storms off and it is over.
We never hear about it again.
Not only is it over, the show's canceled.
It's really over.
This is so over.
No, but it's not over though, because he's going to stop using that bench.
It's going to be moved to the side and she's going to get her
parking space back in episode five.
Yeah.
The show continued.
Yeah, the show could.
Oh, man.
What a dark thing it would be if the end of that scene was,
Dad, you're going to quit and I'll get my parking spot back.
Dad, you're going to die like mom.
Yeah.
You'd already be gone if you had an enabler like you.
Oh, my God. Did you not see that? Be great. Did you not an enabler like you. Oh my God.
Did you not see-
That'd be great.
Did you not see us fantasizing about you being dead when you went to Walmart?
Live in reality, Dan.
You were standing behind the camera.
That you put in the show.
Yeah.
Dan, we're alive.
Hug me.
Hug me.
I call you Big daddy for a reason.
Oh, so and honestly, so I want to come back to the hug thing in a minute.
OK, because the next scene, this next scene is called The Apprentice.
So do they. Yeah.
Well, no, we'll get there. Hold on.
Because we get this thing called The Apprentice and this is where he's going to
meet Jeremiah, the social media nephew guy.
I'm not racist. Part two.
Yes. Right. I love this. so I can even hire a black man
Yeah, there's this great moment. It's right at the top of the scene where he goes. Tell me about you and the guy goes
Well, I graduated top of my class and he goes no tell me about you. Well, so I'm sorry
It's impossibly stupid, but you left out the amazing pause because like Dan was supposed to interrupt him
Right and he almost the poor actor playing Jeremiah almost has to say
Dot dot dot, you know at the end of his fucking line
Ellipses what are your next thoughts now? Probably? I don't know
You're too drunk to deliver your drunk dialogue. Yeah
There's so many moments where we see the faces of the actors being like, are we fucking keeping
that?
Are we?
Yeah.
Do you want to take another shot at that?
Are we going to cut?
You hired me for the day, dude.
The day.
The whole day.
I mean, this isn't hourly.
This is a daily rate.
So like, whether we go, whether we rap now or not,
I'm still getting paid the same rate. So let's take another take. Let's just take another
take for me.
Still rolling.
For me.
Yeah. You're not drinking more or less depending on when we stop. So, you know, it's the same
for you too. Yeah. But he explains to Jeremiah that, well, first Jeremiah explains that
he was a lone wolf in college because he doesn't like feeling like a cog in a machine. And I guess based on the sincerity of his no step on snack,
Dan Oh, hires him, right? But he already hired him on the phone. Yep. He did. Yes. So this
is a double hire. Jeremiah goes, okay, you hired me to do what? And he goes, I don't
know yet. What print it cut, print it. Let's go. God's going to tell me me to do what? And he goes, I don't know yet. What? Print it.
Cut.
Print it.
Let's go put it in.
God's going to tell me what to do faster.
Here's what he says.
And I can't tell you how many times I've had this conversation, right?
Where someone's done almost exactly this, right?
Go home and figure out how much money you want.
And also what you do and how it makes me money and how it works and when it works.
Yes. And then maybe I'll do it. Yeah, right. Right.
He says at this point, I want you to this is a direct fucking quote. I want you to think about
what to capitalize the company on.
I'm like, are you just saying all the business words, you know, in a row now, man? Yep. It
was nice of him to say, give yourself a good salary though. Yeah. That was cool. Let's
not forget. This is the man who wrote down Obama's finally going to pay for his propaganda, liberated liberal policy, which made me ask the question,
did you not understand the word illiterate?
Is that maybe what you're doing or was I being too generous in the first place?
Yeah.
And you were just throwing that word in there for fun.
Yeah.
Right.
And then, and I want to talk about the end here at the end, he's like, Oh, and add $11,000 because that's how much you're going to pay my daughter or because
my daughter's going to work for you, which either means he wants his daughter to make
$11,000 a year. He wants her to fuck his boss. Nowhere near minimum wage in any state, including Arizona, or he's paying him an extra
$11,000 to hire his daughter.
Right.
I thought it was a write off. I thought that was the way that he was. I thought he was
just trying to hide the money that he gave to his daughter.
Oh, that might've been it. Yeah. Well, cause like he, cause he says, cause my, my daughter
Barbara, now Barbara was the one that needed the $11,000 earlier, but she's critically
not the one that lost her job. Right?
Well her ex husband or lay about ex husband isn't working. We know that, but we don't
know that her employment status.
Yeah. Right. Right. But it's the other daughter that lost her job. And then he was supposed
to be like, that was supposed to be working for the church or whatever.
I think he forgot which daughter it was by this point.
Sure. He just likes the unit of one nice work truck in stuff.
Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I guess. Yeah. When it's all truck based, 11,000 is the base unit. Yeah.
So and then he goes, Jeremiah goes to leave and Dano hugs him. Now he has had no physical contact with his daughters whatsoever,
but he hugs this guy that he just fucking hired for a job that doesn't exist yet.
And it was palpable.
Yes. Yeah.
It was an in-depth hug.
I felt again, unsafe.
And I thought he was going to fall over.
It is interesting that he has this whole like, tell me about you. And then he puts his words
inside of a black man's mouth because it is also very similar to if you pulled a page
from his diary where it's like, see, I'm not racist. These are the qualities that I accept
black people to have and still like them.
Yeah. Right. Right.
So then we open the next scene.
I shit you not with a barely audible.
We're recording.
Followed by 100 percent heard that
by Daniel reading the Bible out loud.
I love that so much.
So, yeah. So he cut this scene is so stupid too.
Like he calls the nurse and he's like,
hey, what's granny doing?
She says, oh, she's outside feeding the chickens.
We cut outside to show granny feeding chickens
in case we don't believe them.
And then he's like, all right, tell her to wear a hat.
End of scene.
Yep.
Well, see, I think that this scene is critical because-
Oh, is it?
Is it, Dan? All right, I think that this scene is critical because, Oh, is it? Is it, Tim?
All right, I'm listening.
It unlocks the whole theme.
Well, it kind of does.
In a way, it's accidentally revealing because when they come back inside, he's like, we're
like Beverly Hillbillies with these chickens or whatever.
And this is so indicative of the inability for him to realize that he is not relatable to the
Trump middle class. Oh, interesting. Yeah. You know, or whatever the energy of, you know,
like the Trump movement and stuff about working people, you know, and like the common man
is rising up and demanding that we get our fair shake and stuff. He wants to feel like
that, but he is not that he lives in a mansion.
Right? Yeah. So this is him trying to like humanize himself on that level for people
that disguise. That's interesting by having grandma feed chickens out back or whatever.
He's trying to create that aesthetic relatability of middle America when he is nothing like it. He's a super rich dude who can just at a whim start a business
and drink all day on his stupid lazy boy.
It's great.
Yeah.
And he's got chickens.
He's not paying for eggs.
Yeah. He's like, we're not, we're not carpet baggers.
My grandfather moved here from New York city,
stole a bunch of money and land from the people who currently live here
My father exploited his workers still further and I never learned how to work an actual job
We're the salt of the earth
Yes, and he thinks family values is telling the nurse to tell his mother-in-law to put on a hat
Yeah, like he is not connected in any way to what they're
all pretending to be. But this scene is his performance of it.
That's awesome. That's him performing it and knowing so little about it that he has no
idea how one would even perform it. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. So then
we get this next scene where we're going to meet his lawyer. He's got to, he's brought
his lawyer in to tell her that he needs to start a company, but he doesn't know what it's going to do
yet. So right up the paperwork.
So I love this scene because it's him accidentally telling us that he has a series of people
in his life who take financial advantage of him being an idiot, right? Because this is
something he must do on a regular basis, he calls his lawyer and his lawyer charges him $700 an hour and he's like
I want um to be all the laws legal and she goes uh-huh okay great do you want
me to draft up some paperwork I don't know any of the words yet that's fine
I'll write it out and I'll charge you $700 an hour for it and I'll charge you like three hours and he's like, Oh boy, ain't free being free.
You're right. The other night, Joe Bob said that maybe we're not having an
internal experience. Nope. You don't pay me to tell you if you're having it.
Okay. No, no, no, you're wrong. Because this moment.
All right, Dan, interesting.
This moment with the lawyer is as close
to a deeply human moment as there gets.
From a lawyer, it is the most human moment
that I've ever seen.
Hey. Definitely.
Hey, everybody, how about we do this?
And everybody want to drink it tonight?
Whose birthday is it, huh?
All right.
Sorry, Dan, I needed to do that.
After they have their conversation about the business or whatever, she mentions her husband and is like, we're worried about you.
There is a realness to that moment of like, he's drunkenly talking about starting a business of like, uh, we don't know what it does.
He says, and I quote, I think it's going to be a company.
Right.
She's like, we're worried about you.
Yeah.
You need help.
I agree.
Actually, you know what?
I'm going to, I'm going to go, you're both wrong because I agree with both of you simultaneously.
I think that genuinely at the beginning of these relationships,
the people are like, hey, you don't need to do this.
This is a bad idea.
Just just like right.
You have drinking, man. I care about you.
And then after like phone call eight, they're like, sure, man.
Whatever. I'll draw a bunch of now.
Yes. Yes. Yeah, fine.
Absolutely. Like these people are not taking advantage of him
out of like a sincere evil.
They're like, well, it's easier
than fucking trying to fight him.
I would say it's unethical
not to steal a bunch of this guy's money.
I agree.
He'll spend it on something he chose.
Really?
Heath, can I ask you for a moment
of radical vulnerability here
on our little podcast program
Is this how you feel about me?
Do you can I ask you for a moment of radical vulnerability?
Do you want me to answer? No, okay
Let's move on to the next scene. So then we get a title scene that comes up and it says power rock
No, this is not going to be him overdosing
on crack cocaine. I was helpful. But no, what we're going to see here is he's going to work
out on his bow flex for a second and then he's going to pick up his his broom and start
playing guitar with like air guitar with it because he thinks that's really fucking fun.
Tour de force. I like that he needed a prop because just air guitar by itself would be
kind of confusing. So he keeps his broom there. I like that he needed a prop because just air guitar by itself would be kind of confusing
So he keeps his broom there. Oh, I like that. There's a guitar in this scene as well. Just sitting in the background as well
I like that he he needed to compulsively lie at the end of the scene, right?
So he does the air guitar and the daughters walk in and he's like what you never seen someone play air guitar before and as they're
Leaving he very clearly improvises. I produced that song, but he did.
Yeah, he totally did.
He absolutely produced that song.
Eli amazing.
That's the resurrected rock star.
You know, Zack Masters.
I found I found that scene to be one of the most intimate.
Like I felt I felt I felt like it was shot with a closed set,
like a steady cam. It wasn't a director. Like it was like, Hey, we're going to keep as few
people out here as possible. You can, you can be as vulnerable as you like in this very
personal. It was, it was like, I wanted to help him when I watched as much of that scene
as I could. Yeah. It's this and the Danish girl.
It felt like he's going to slide in with no pants, like risky business.
Yeah, one of those moments for sure.
No, it felt like he was going to fall and die.
Also, yeah, right, right.
So then, OK, we get our penultimate scene title of the episode, Night Talk.
This is going to be another rap.
I guess this is like the formula he envisioned for this show that each episode would end with him talking to his dead wife
about what he learned here today. Right. He says to the wife, he goes, Trump's doing a
great job. And I wrote at what? Yeah, I wrote, there's no point in history where that would
be an honest thing to say. He says, kids are good.
Your mom will die eventually.
Yeah.
But I'll be around until she's dead.
Also another dog died.
Yeah.
Doesn't he announce that here?
He's like, I got another one.
That was the third dog.
That was Dieter.
Dieter?
Yeah.
Yeah, not Trump.
Yeah, Trump's still alive.
Okay, but do you think he knows you have to feed dogs?
I have a theory that he doesn't know you need to feed dogs. Only chickens eat
Also the wife disappears in this one. I feel relief for the dog. Right?
Absolutely, what he was talking about. Oh, I got this one from the shelter
I'm like, mmm, probably better off at the shelter
But then in this scene the the fucking, the wife disappears,
the ghost wife disappears again, but then she reappears at the end.
Yeah. She comes back in. Oh, sorry. I realized you're not done.
I was sort of hoping by disappearing, you might have only paid for five minutes.
I had to go to the bathroom.
She dipped out for a ghost P. So, and then we get a
quick shot of him saying his prayers at the end, right? One more time. I guess again,
this is part of the formula. Well, with the dead wife, just to touch on that really quick,
there's something else that's going on there too, which is that he, for the first time
in any of these episodes doesn't have a drink with him. Oh really? Yeah. And he
says, I'm dedicating these 12 steps to you or whatever, which implies that he's going
to get sober in honor of his ghost dead wife. And that led me to be really fucked up because
the, like I mentioned earlier, the guy who did this, Brian McLean did another show about
the 12 steps. So he has some like addiction
and recovery kind of experience. And that made me wonder if he was performing drunk
for the earlier parts of the show. And if so, he's amazing.
That's true. Well, so I, what I thought, cause he doesn't say I'm going to dedicate these
12 steps. So he says, I'm going to dedicate 12 steps to you, which I thought was him referring to the other TV show that he produced, right? That he was
going to dedicate that TV show to her.
Oh no, that's interesting.
I had not considered that.
Who knows how meta he's trying to be here. But okay, but then we get him saying his prayers
one last time, which I honestly, I only include this because of the contents of his goddamn bedside table. We can't not talk about those. The enormous three
remote controls that operate three different large pieces of equipment
apparently. Yes and there's a little one too. There's a little one for like a
ceiling fan. There were four total remote controls on his fucking bedside table. And a big power aid to stay hydrated while you're sleeping in your canopy bed.
I'm confused.
What don't you understand about he's a man of the people?
During his prayer he goes, Lord, I swear this is his actual line.
He says, Lord, guide the Rush Limbaugh's guide the Sean Hannity
Yep, not the Alex Jones is though. I mean there is there is something again like
time capsule necessary for that because almost all of the things that he believes are
Directly pulled from those idiots all the things that he says that he believes are directly pulled from those idiots all of his actions Are in absolute opposition to any concept of like trying to help
Yes, yeah, because he's been so warped in the mind by these people
This is where we are like I I feel like there is a there is an actual literal hand pulled from the radio
Pushed into his brain massaging it and making him say bullshit, you know, yeah, he's insane
How do you think he felt when God killed Rush Limbaugh like moments after this came out?
Oh, yeah, he was confused by what happened or do you think he was like a mysterious ways?
Because that means I need to start running too. Did I do that? Yeah right right. All right I'll do Pilates.
The very last thing in this is he said he prays even for all the atheists who work against Trump
and I'm like hey that's us guys. He prayed for us at the end. It's nice. And then instead of the show ending, we get like a minute and a half or two
minutes of the grandma character just ranting into the camera about what a
bitch Hillary is.
She's great.
It's kids say the darndest things, but with dementia.
Cause she never completes a thought, right?
You get the first half of one thought and the last half of another like eight times
in a row and then it's over.
If I may quote, she's actually, and I think this too, they're going to ask for votes and
then she's going to pop up.
Yes.
But like here's the thing that I couldn't stop thinking about and I think this is a
nice somber note for us to really, you know, think about this whole
thing in the lens of, like, grandma comes from a generation.
Like grandma wore like a nice sweater and a little poodle skirt for her high school
yearbook.
Do you think if we could travel through time and be like, hey, if you live to be 80, your
son-in-law will show you looking like this and saying
this.
Do you think she would have done it right there?
I think she would have.
I think she would have gone right down to the drive-in and pushed herself over one of
those cliffs they had at make out point.
What do you guys think?
I would.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm confused.
Are you saying that if we went back in time to
the 1930s and told a white woman that she was going to be racist someday, she would
be unhappy. For me, it's, it's not the racism. It's the hair. That's fair. That's fair. It's
the sadly voyeuristic glimpse into it. Just a deeply pathetic and disastrous existence
Yeah, again a white woman in the 1930s would be like, yeah, this is a disastrous existence my bad
Like oh, yeah, you guys are making fun. I think this scene was very important actually when you think about it
So, oh really? Yeah, what we're learning here is like big swings here
This is the this is the movie. This is Brian McLean accidentally admitting like, hey, this is the generation that was our parents.
We're doing the best we can.
And that's what we're looking at right here.
Oh, interesting. All right.
That's so the the shot of grandma is basically being like, what do you expect to happen with?
Yeah, right. Exactly. That's the best you grandma is basically being like, what'd you expect to happen with these guys?
Yeah, right. Exactly.
It's the best you can hope for.
That's interesting.
Jack Nicholson emerges from her mouth and goes, what if this is as good as it gets?
All right. Well, I think that's a great note to end episode two on and thus our commitment
to doing this ever again. So Dan Jordan, thanks so much for coming back. Even knowing kind
of what you were getting into this time. Hey, it was great. I, I, this was, this was awesome. I
feel like it's a lot has been brought to my life accidentally. I swear to you, I swear
to you. And I, I don't even need to ask Dan later on when you're not around, we're going
to talk about the show again. It will happen. It will 100% happen. All right. And if you would, can you remind our listeners where to find more from you
guys?
Yeah, we have a knowledge fight.com is our website and we're on various podcast applications.
Awesome. And you also be of course on the show notes for this episode. And while that's
going to do it for our review of Trump by Grace, that's not going to do it for the episode
just yet because we still need to lure you back. So Eli, tell us what's on deck.
A reluctant leader heads up a team of seven Christians intent on smuggling Bibles to underground
churches in a future America where the Bible is illegal and dangerous around every corner.
We'll be watching Disciples in the Moonlight.
What a stupid fucking time. That sounds fantastic.
All right.
So with that to look forward to, we're moving episode 488 to a merciful close.
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