God Awful Movies - 514: Animated Book of Mormon, Episodes 3 and 8
Episode Date: July 8, 2025This week, Cara Santa Maria relives her childhood trauma at the hands of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. But in cartoon form. Check out more from Cara on the Talk Nerdy podcast If yo...u’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/ Report instances of harassment or abuse connected to this show to the Creator Accountability Network here: https://creatoraccountabilitynetwork.org/
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Welcome back to the GameCast where each week we sample another selection from Christian Cinema because NASA still won't take me.
I'm your host No Illusions. Heath is unable to join us today. He's doing married shit. But sitting 900 miles to my northeast is my bad friend Eli Bosnik. Eli, how are you this fine afternoon, sir?
Mormon movie month!
It is, in fact, Mormon movie month!
Yes.
And also joining us this week is the most maliciously web-sided of all our regulars.
She's the host of Talk Nerdy, she's an Emmy-winning TV personality, and she's somehow still on
speaking terms with Eli.
She's Kara Santa Maria.
Kara, welcome back.
And don't forget, former Mormon.
Yeah, that's right.
This is how I got Kara on the show for the first time.
This is how we lured her in.
All those years ago.
We were like, hey, it's just once a month.
It's just one month we're doing a thing.
So tell us Kara, what will we be breaking down today?
So we watched animated stories from the Book of Mormon.
We watched two episodes, both Journey to the Promised Land and The Brother of Jared.
Mostly I just had flashbacks from my youth.
So thanks for the memories, guys.
And the PTSD.
Yeah, right?
All right.
We blame the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for the PTSD.
We just triggered it. We didn't give it to him.
Exactly, yeah.
And Eli, how bad was this movie?
Well, if you loved following along
with the shenanigans of Nephi and his clueless brothers,
but you wish everyone had the memory of a goldfish
and the morality of their author,
you will love this movie.
This is the, really, you're trying to kill him again
part of the Nephi story.
It sure is. And the end again part of the Nephi story as well. All right, is there anything
you guys want to nominate this one for being the best at being the worst at?
Oh, I'm going to go with best, worst veiled. That's heavily in quotes. Anti-Semitism.
Oh, whoever who you mean?
Wow, Jesus Christ. I'll give you a half a shackle
That's the actual line got me. Yeah, he's the actual line. Yeah. No, yeah, we would have bleeped it
Hey, I didn't do the nose. I mean, come on. That's not yet. We're on camera
He did do the nose wearing a prosthetic since we got on everybody.
Oh, Bradley Cooper. Come on. So but I was going to I'm actually going to stay in the exact same scene that you're in, Kara.
I'm going to go with best worst babble.
Mm hmm. Right. There's a point in this movie where a bunch of white guys are asked to speak in random foreign languages.
And it goes as well as that tends to go. It sure do. It sure do.
I'm gonna go with best worst call forward.
Nephi uses his magic powers at a certain point and I don't want to spoil it
because we'll talk about it when it happens but Joe was getting high on his
own supply. Why wasn't he though? All right well if we don't approach this
episode cautiously it will sink further into the earth just like the buried treasure Joseph Smith told gullible farmers he could
sense on their properties for a living before he became a prophet. So we're going to take
our time, but we'll be back in a minute with all the hat wisdom that is the Animated Book
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Woo!
We're back, yeah.
So you guys will remember our last two episodes,
we did the story of Nephi and the plates,
and then that dream he had that one time.
And since then, we've gotten some feedback that viewers would like something with a little
bit more action this time around.
Ooh, well how about Nephi's journey across the sea?
You mean the one about the time he got in a boat and sailed across the ocean?
Yeah, that's the story.
Yeah, and his brothers try to kill him and then God
punishes him and then they repent. Well, yeah, but that's I mean, that's exactly what happened
in the first episode we did about Nephi. What is? His brothers attack him, God punishes them,
and they repent. People want a new and different story. Right. I mean, there aren't new and different stories in the Book of Mormon.
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And we're back for the breakdown.
We're going to open up on three different fucking titles screens, right?
But we land eventually on fucking journey to the promised land and land of the powerful.
I think they were settling an argument between two of the writers with this, right?
But we open on Nephi writing in his plates
with a fucking Bic pen, apparently.
Now, if you've forgotten in the like whatever year or two
since we've done one of these,
Nephi will be dressed as Tarzan
throughout this entire fucking thing.
Yeah, and they were really going for,
this is just like Hercules kids, we promise.
Yes.
Yeah. I was struggling throughout both of these because we'll get to it,
but I was like, when was this?
Or when are they making up that this was?
And I found no lie.
So I went down to my bookshelf and got my childhood scriptures.
They are brown, leather bound.
They have my name engraved in them.
Hell yeah they do.
I've got my Book of Mormon,
Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price.
That's in one book.
The other book is the Old and New Testament,
King James Version,
which apparently at some point as a teenager,
I put one of those CD stickers
that says parental advisory explicit books on the right.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Fuck yeah.
And they're all cross tabulated.
All my old like highlights in them.
Anyway, I found inside of one of them a big bookmark that is dated.
Yes, it's copyrighted.
Where's the copyright date?
Oh, copyright 1989 by the corporation of the president
of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
That's the fucking year that this, not the first one,
but the second one that we,
the second cartoon was made.
That's crazy.
Yeah, and so it has the timeline.
It's called the Book of Mormon Chronology Chart.
Oh, Jesus.
I would love to see what kind of bullshit
they manage for that.
Let me give you the chronology for this perfect word of God.
So according to them, Lehi, because I was like, first of all, where are they?
Are they like in Fiji?
Like I was like, what's going on?
Yeah, right, right.
The Fiji portion of Israel.
So Lehi is in Jerusalem in the year 600 BC.
Sure.
So that's why he looks like Tarzan?
Yes, that's why he is dressed like fucking Tarzan.
Okay, so just so that we know everybody, take us back to the year 600 BC.
This is Nephi, this is Lehi.
This episode came out July 10th, 1988, so Mormon Movie Month is apropos.
And go.
Yep. There we go.
Right on board.
And we should also point out too,
the animation in this movie is a bizarre mix
of very good and very bad.
Yeah.
Because any individual still, if I pause this movie,
you could mistake this for a contemporary Disney flick
at any moment, right?
But once you see those stills put together, right, and the like
proportions of the faces start moving around amoeba like on the screen and shit
like fucking Nephi's jaw gets bigger and smaller relative to his head.
Then you're like, hey, what the fuck is happening here?
So and that and that's throughout, like constantly.
You'll just be like, it'll almost be good enough to fool you.
And then like, you know, something will have to leak through the boat and you'll be like, no, no, this is cheap bullshit, isn't it?
Yep. Yep.
It's okay. So Nephi is he's writing in his golden plates and his daughter is like watching over his shoulder and she's like, hey,
are we at the promised land yet? Where in the story are we?
We're on point to the place on Kara's bookmark
where we are.
Yeah.
Hey dad, I'm pretty bored.
What, where in the story are we?
Yeah.
Well, and what's helpful is, I don't know if you guys
noticed, but where did we watch this?
It was some like scripture website.
Livingscriptures.com.
Livingscriptures.com.
Yeah.
I have a yearly tradition with the yearly script, living scriptures, which is I subscribe
for one month under a fake email for the free month.
And then they call me about a month later and they say, Hey, we noticed you canceled
all your free scripture trial was going on.
Why?
And I say, I have a movie podcast that makes fun of Christian movies.
And that's what I use your service for.
And then there's a pause and they go, someone mentioned that there was a podcast.
This is the greatest thing ever.
We'll see you next year then.
Yeah, they almost always have a child calling me, which is why I don't do
anything like gross or mean because it's always like someone who's got the best
mission assignment ever.
It's like, hi, I'm here on my 16th birthday.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
Here we go.
And as we'll see later, they don't really give a shit about child labor laws.
No, they do not.
It's part of their scripture.
But what I love is that, you know how usually you can pick...
I watch things with subtitles because I'm a millennial, of course.
And usually you can just pick like English, Spanish, whatever.
But here they have one called English scripture.
Yes.
And they just tell you the actual book in verse.
So that's what I did is I read along in my book of Mormon to see what was actually in there and what was, you know, creative license.
Oh, there you go.
Kara saw how much research Marsh did on our bonus episode where we all did tarot together and she was like, I'll show you!
So, yeah, so the little daughter's like, hey, where are we going? And he's like, I'll show you. So, yeah, so the little daughter's like, hey, where are we going?
And he's like, let me show you.
So he goes inside his tent and he goes inside this like fucking pirate's treasure chest
and he pulls out the Leona.
Oh, yeah.
Golden Compass, which like, do they call it that in here?
Because I just kept reading.
I think it was Compass.
They used a different word in First Nephi.
Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
The Leahona is what this is called by like,
sort of the, or in the Book of Mormon,
it's referenced as the Leahona.
It may not be referenced in that part of the scripture.
Carrie, you don't know it,
but you're watching a Marvel movie with us right now.
We are pointing at a character in the back right corner and being like, he's actually
Shadow's brother.
It's like that, but with significantly more child rape.
Jesus Christ.
But I do think like, cause if I'm not mistaken, the Lea Hona is introduced early, but it gets
its name late because it's all like, you know, as Joseph Smith was making the shit up. Right. So, oh yeah. He's just yeah. Because this is like
right at the beginning. First Nephi is the very first book. So, yes, exactly. Yeah. I
think they just call it like a compass or I'm trying to find it here. Blessings, Lord
came to pass, came to pass, it came to pass. Fruit and honey. Yeah, whatever. I'll find
it eventually.
So that we flashback to Lehigh fighting the Leahona. And I love this moment because they
just he blinks one time too many as he's staring at it just one time too many so that it's
hilarious. So he stares at that for a few seconds. Then we go back to to Nephi and he
explains to the kids that it'll point the right direction as long as everybody's faithful.
And they're like, well, it's pointing towards the fucking ocean.
So are we being unfaithful?
Right. Right.
They have no idea how they're going to cross the ocean.
And he's like, if only I had a boat to stare at long enough to figure out how it worked.
Oh, yeah.
So, Eli, this is the point in my watching where I realized that my boyfriend is you.
What? Yeah.
I started dating a you.
Oh, no.
So he's sitting next to me and immediately Googled who wrote the screenplay for this
and proceeded to teach me all about Orson Scott Card.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
I know.
Like, and I noticed you guys didn't even talk about that.
Did you cover that on another episode?
So Orson I don't think we have talked about the fact that Orson Scott card wrote most if not all of these animated Book of
Mormon episodes. It's my favorite fun fact. This is the guy who wrote Ender's Game
Yeah, it's the Ender's Game guy. Yeah, and he won like a Hugo and a nebula
But also he's the great-great-grandson of Brigham Young, and he doesn't like the gays.
He does not like the gays.
So the way he is the elder millennial version of J.K. Rowling.
Right? Like when young people are like,
God, it's so disappointing.
Like I really, I've ruined the whole series.
And I'm like, pull up a chair and let me tell you the tale of Orson Scott Card,
who wrote an open letter to the newspaper about how gays victimize children
while I was waiting for his next book to come out.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Oh, it's rough, rough times.
So yeah, so we wrap up that little opening and then we cut this little boy.
Now this is Jacob, the youngest of the five brothers.
He's in a tree gathering berries the hard way, right?
When beneath him, his dad Lehi and his evil brothers,
Laman and Lemuel, show up to argue about the next step
in their journey, right?
Where the Leahona is taking them.
Right, and it's important to remember,
in case you haven't been following along,
that these brothers who are about to turn on their father
and they don't believe he is being instructed by God,
they saw an angel 33 seconds ago.
Yes.
It's also important to remember if you don't follow the lore,
and this is me barely remembering,
so maybe you guys who have done deeper dives can like mansplain
the religion I was raised into me because in this case, it is fair.
I've never been happier.
It's completely fair because they don't really teach it to the women,
just to be clear.
Like when we're young, they're like,
just bake a cake or something.
The men are going to talk.
To be fair, last time someone explained the story
of a Book of Mormon to a woman, it was Martin's wife
and she ruined it forever.
Yeah.
So like, so Layman and Lemuel, the brothers of Nephi, are, well first of all, Layman,
he's ethnic.
Well, he's getting more ethnic as we go.
Yeah.
And so he ends up being sort of like a Satan character, right?
Like he's like the evil brother and he ends up being the Laymanites.
Right, right.
What the fuck happens to Lemuel?
Don't remember. I think he gets killed in one of the warsamanites. Yeah. Right. Right. What the fuck happens to Lemuel?
Don't remember.
I think he gets killed in one of the wars.
Okay.
I can't remember for sure though, so don't quote me on that.
So Laman literally looks in these drawings like Jafar in Aladdin.
Yeah.
Like that's what they're going for.
Like a more problematic Jafar.
Yeah, like a more problematic.
And then Lemuel for some reason is like a fat white guy with like a really whiny voice.
Yeah, they certainly seem to be going for five different races with the five sons of Lehi here.
It's strange. Like, what is their depiction of Lemuel?
I don't get it.
Barg?
But Eli, you do the voice well.
Yeah, they're all supposed to start out white and delightsome.
I think the animated series is just getting a little ahead of us here.
So yeah, but the brothers are arguing, they're like, we don't want to follow Nephi and Dad
is like, we're following God.
And he wanders off and the brothers are like, the evil brothers are like, hmm, we're going
to have to take care of Dad, aren't we?
Now the whole time, of course, the kid in the tree, Jacob is overhearing all of this,
you know, unbeknownst to the plotters.
And Jacob is also a brother, right?
Yes.
He's the youngest of the brothers.
Yeah, this is confusing because Jacob's about the same age as Nephi's kid.
But I think this happened a lot when polygamy was like all the rage, right?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
No, when the marrying age of your children and your soon to be-be wives were the same. Exactly. Really mixed up family dynamics.
Yeah.
Blah, blah, blah.
So, but the kid in the tree, Jacob, he runs out, he's got to go tell Nephi.
And I'm like, I feel like you would tell Dad, wouldn't you?
You would think.
People are planning to kill him, but...
Can I say what's so weird about this scene?
So, he goes to Nephi and he's like,
Nephi, are we going to fight them?
And he's like, no, we will not fight
them. We do not want to fight.
And this is
not in the Book of Mormon.
No. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff not
in the Book of Mormon.
Yeah. They just added a bunch of
stuff. I don't know why they added
peacekeeping to the Book of.
I mean, Nephi already just sits there
getting kicked in the nuts for most
of his origin story. I'm not sure why they added a pacifism subplot that we didn't need.
But it gets it makes it even worse than that, right? Because then it's also him not doing
anything about it, right? Because they Jacob runs and he's like, Nephi, Nephi, they're
going to kill dad. And then Nephi is like, ah, layman is always I'm going to kill dad
this I'm going to kill dad that I'll pray about it, leave it with me.
And then he just doesn't do anything.
Yeah.
So when they attack him,
it's just like he all the more had it coming.
Yeah, he literally is like, I've got this,
and then proceeds to not got it.
Like, I'm cutting ahead,
but his solution to this is build a boat.
Meanwhile, I'm like, they could have just killed the dad
in any of these montages. Right, he could have just killed the dad. Yeah. In any of these montages.
Right.
He doesn't even warn the dad.
Yeah.
No, he doesn't even tell his dad that his own sons want to kill him.
At this point, he might as well call Chuck Schumer's office and ask Chuck Schumer to
do something about it.
So yeah, but so he goes to pray and God says, go to the mountain.
And I'm like, I feel like you got to be more specific than that.
Right.
Yeah.
I think there's only one mountain on that island.
Are there islands in Jerusalem?
I'm so confused about where they are.
So yeah.
So he goes up the one path on the one mountain.
And I guess this is a thing where like God is sick of coming all the
way, every time he's like, meet me halfway.
You go up to, you know, he goes up the mountain to get a better signal and he prays again.
I Google mapped.
There's a Denny's halfway between heaven and you.
So yeah, but God tells him to build a sailboat and he's like, I don't know how to do that.
And he's like, well, I'm going to, I'm God, man.
I'll, I'll help you out.
And he's like, well, I don't, I don't have tools.
He's like, you don't have tools, man. I'm God. I'm I'll help you out. He's like well. I don't I don't have tools. He's like I have tools man
I'm God. I'm gonna help you out
Okay, but I really sympathize with God here cuz you ever doing something where you're gonna do all the work and someone starts asking like
Really long questions that have long answers, and you kind of just want to be like that's none of your concern. Yeah
So okay, then we're gonna get the first of our two back to back
montages to the same song.
OK, this one is so stupid.
It starts with him finding the materials like like you're doing a fetch
quest in a video game.
I wrote he's at the start of a Minecraft run.
Yes. Yeah, right. He buys the ore, just a pile of ore.
Oh yeah, he needs the ore to make the tools to make the boat.
Yeah.
Well, at first he has to sew together tiny squares of cloth to make the bellows, to make
the fire, to melt the ore, to make the...
Yeah.
And so we want to plant the wheat.
This is the point where I literally wrote, let's hope he can smelt this ore and make
these tools to build a whole ass boat before his brothers do a murder
Yes, right. Well, apparently they're out there smelting a sword or something to stab dad with so they're tied right?
Flash cuts over to the factorial protagonist. This is nothing
Right, but so this montage goes on I brought my notes like man
This montage damn near has a part where like Nephi
and God spray each other with a water hose while they're washing the car,
doesn't it? Yeah.
But ultimately, he makes his tools and he goes to cut the tallest tree
in the forest to start his boat with.
And then his other brother, who we haven't seen in the episode yet, shows up
and he goes, I'm also in the episode. Let me help you cut the tree.
And we're all like, I am the good brother.
Who the fuck? But I didn't know who he was yet.
Right. I thought that he was just a helpful fellow wearing a T-shirt under his leather toga.
Well, he was. He was. I was confused.
But and he also like there's some like real I mean, maybe I'm just
I don't know if I'm just reading into it, but this is Sam Sam, right?
Yeah, this is Sam. So Sam and Nephi have some like kind of vibes. Yes. Oh, yeah
There's some Lord of the Ring romance going on here
Okay
So here's the thing about the Nephi character here is that the person who's has some vibes with Nephi is the person who's?
Animating this goddamn movie, right?
There is nothing that they spent more time and effort on in this animation than Nephi's rippling muscles.
Everything else they just kind of half-assed or whatever, but anytime it's time to show Nephi's abs, there are eight of them.
You could stop and count them.
All the ropes are way too authentic bondage knots whenever he ties.
Fucking... All the ropes are way too authentic. Bondage knots. Whenever he ties. Why would the brothers hang him upside down like, I just drew the ropes.
Right.
And so, Sam, I think it's just our analog within the movie, you know?
So all right.
But so now they've got most of a boat.
Right.
And layman and Lemuel are like, this is stupid.
Making a boat is stupid.
You're stupid. And he's like, no, the Lord told me to make this boat.
And layman's like, well, I'm not putting my family on it.
We're in fact going to attack you.
Yeah, we're going to murder you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because that's, that's how we fix things is with murder in our hearts.
Well, exactly.
He goes, I know you're planning to kill father.
And then he delivers the line.
He goes, not until we kill
You first like he's trying to get a point
Right, like he's trying to get a fucking point in an ad on our fucking show
Well, the actor very clearly wanted to go not until we kill you but the line is not until we kill you first And so he tried dramatic pause before first and it didn't work. I, exactly. I fuck. I got another word. Damn it. Damn it.
So it's so Nephi, he powers up, right? He starts he holds down his aura.
Yeah. Right. Right. He like holds down acts to power up his attack or whatever.
And he goes, if God wanted to, he could turn this entire ocean into dry land.
I could do that with my god powers. I just would rather
Build boat I guess yeah
Having fun with the boat and then they're like well, we're not convinced and he's like really cuz I'm glowing and they're like Yeah, and they're like and you saw an angel in the last episode
They're like right and God's like fuck it use your force push. Yeah, and he uses force push
This is my best worst. This is the foreshadowing So Kara, I don't know if you know this
But when Joseph Smith was a trying to escape the jail when he was shot right before he was shot
He tried to use his magic powers on the people who shot him
Very famously like the story of Nephi. He did a little too much drinking of his own Gatorade and he was like, yeah
And they were like pet pet and then he died yeah cuz his magic's not real yes well the other
okay so the other theory on that and I hate to throw cold water because that's
so fucking amazing but the other theory on that is that he was trying to do like
signs of like Freemasonry or whatever that that would like signal to the
people within the group that he was one of them or something like that but but
yes he was doing magical hand symbols as he was shot, ruined right
at the other.
Either way, he was doing a mime when he died.
Exactly.
That's amazing.
It's a funny assassination to think of regardless.
So, yeah.
So the brothers are now very apologetic,
you know, and they're like, oh, we're so sorry.
We will never do that again for like three or four days.
Three more minutes.
Yeah, exactly.
God, it's just it's just that over and over and over.
Right. The whole fuck. Yeah, that's the whole book of Nephi. The whole Three more minutes. Yeah, exactly. God, it's just that over and over and over, right?
The whole book of, yeah, the whole book of Nephi.
The whole book of Mormon.
Yeah.
And this is like a conversation that Steve and I have
a lot on the SGU where we both agree
that when we're watching films,
the laziest plot device is when just the fuck up
keeps fucking up and that's what moves the story forward.
Yes.
And that's all this is.
Right. Because it's written by a guy who'd never read a fucking book
staring into a hat all day as he's thinking of it. Right.
And he's only got this one idea. Yeah.
It's just fucking tedious.
So then we get our second montage.
The last one was making the tools.
This one is making the boat. This one is making the boat
This one's just hammering wood. Yep. Okay. I know this isn't really worth mentioning But I do have to talk about it because it made me so happy did it sound like the guy singing the song
Wasn't sure if he should be singing the same
I think what actually happened is that like the sound was a little warped when they
translated the VHS to the DVD to the digital form, whatever this is.
But what it sounds like is him being like, you and I in the moment again.
Yeah, we just did this one.
This is where is this the fucking canteen in Star Wars or something?
We just didn't want another number.
Oh yeah, this is this is such a weird line too. Cause there's like, there's nothing I
can't do doing it with two. And I'm like, there's like 15 people there.
Right. Yeah. So there's also, they reprise that line with doing it with you. And I'm
like, wow, you guys are not here in the double entendre at all. I'm just doing it.
Are you sure? No, but yeah, so we get this one. Now the whole family is all building
the boat together. There's one moment where like the kid brings a bucket to one of the guys who's
working and he just dumps it over in his head.
And both Eli and I wrote in our notes, I think that was like for everyone to
drink, you asshole.
And like like Kara says, all of it as it pans over the boat, everybody's just
like hammering a random spot in a beam.
Yeah, they're just hammering a random spot in a beam.
Yeah, they're just hammering on very much.
Yeah, there's no no right. They're just like weakening the structure of the boat the whole time.
I will say I had to capture an image of it to add 12 minutes, 31 seconds.
There's a great MC Asher moment where the guy's standing on the bottom of the boat
and hammering this beam that would be like 40 feet above his head.
Oh, I thought he was floating. Oh, he might be floating.
That's the other option.
It does appear to be floating.
Yeah, no, that's also possible.
Yeah.
This is also where Layman is like not working.
He's just getting a massage.
Like 15 different times they cut to the same animation of him getting a massage.
Yeah.
And they think that they're doing a bit, right?
They're like, it's a callback.
And we're like, no, you're just using the same animation.
You lazy fucks.
We see what you're doing here.
So, yeah, but they build the boat and then we watch them load the boat.
Got to see that.
Watch them haggle with the moving company.
Yeah, Jesus fucking Christ.
But finally, they launched the boat.
Soraya, the mom, she's going to be very sad. She sure will miss the old world
Do you think Soraya was just him making up?
like
Sarah yes, but making it sound like he's like, oh, that's a biblical name. How do I?
Biblical. All right. Yeah. Well, so the entire Book of Mormon though the through line cuz we read through the whole Book of Mormon on
scathing atheists years ago. And the real through line is that he just had no ability to come up with good, proper
nouns when he needed them.
And so every name is Flurgener.
Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So we need now to pause long enough for Layman and Lemuel to forget that their brother is
magical.
So dad only take a minute or two and then we'll be back with even more of
the animated Book of Mormon.
Hey, Kara. What's the matter?
Yeah, you seem kind of down.
I don't know, guys.
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What?
I said it sounds delicious.
Right?
It does.
It is.
We'll kill you, brother.
Nobody tells us what to do.
Laman, Lemuel, it is I, your god.
Stay your hand and do not harm Nephi,
for he is my servant.
Forgive us, Lord.
We will not do it again.
Very well.
Seriously?
What the fuck was that?
What was what?
You, you, you kicked him.
No, we didn't.
Dude, I'm, I'm literally God. Okay, we didn't. I'm literally God.
Okay, I was checking...
What were you checking?
If you meant this, Nephi.
Right, you could have meant any Nephi.
So you thought I came down here to tell you not to kill a different Nephi than the one you were killing?
Yes. to tell you not to kill a different Nephi than the one you were killing?
Yes. OK, well, I do mean this one.
Don't kill this Nephi.
Yep, got it. Totally understood.
Seems obvious in retrospect.
All right. So I'm going to go back.
Seriously?
Measure twice, cut once.
That's not what that means.
Or is it no
That's practically the fuck
And we're back for more of this shit
We're gonna rejoin the gang at see having a little after hours dance party
Yeah, and I was so excited because this is always, I love Christian movie code for evil,
which is just fully clothed dancing
and swinging unnecessarily out of the same liquor bottle.
Yes, right, right.
Yeah, we see layman's wife dancing up.
We see Lemuel so drunk that he kind of wants
to dance the shit out of layman's wife.
Ooh. Yeah.
Somebody's drumming with chicken legs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's debauchery, absolute debauchery. And then fucking Nephi shows up Ooh, somebody's drumming with chicken legs or something? Yep, yep, yep.
Departurey, absolute departurey.
And then fucking Nephi shows up to be the bad guy from Footloose.
Yeah, he's such a wet blanket.
He's like, you guys are having fun?
Stop that.
Right.
You're not righteous.
Yeah, look, it's easy to judge Lehman and Lemuel for how often they want to kill Nephi,
but Nephi is so fucking killable, right?
He really is. He's constantly asking to be murdered.
Such a piece of shit.
Yeah. He's like, God will only guide us if we're right chance.
And they're and they're like, you know what?
It has been days since God intervened directly on his behalf for the second time.
Let's attack him. OK.
Tiny moment I have to talk about when layman slaps Nephi., again, I know it's just a mistake in the animating.
He becomes animated a shade darker and I was like, Oh my God, is he going to get darker
every time he hits it?
But no, no, it's just bad color correction.
Wolf.
Yeah.
So they tie him to the mast.
They slap him around.
Dad comes out mid mutiny and they're like, Hey, if anybody pisses me off, I'm going to
throw him overboard.
And I'm like, he's tied to the mast.
It would take you a minute.
I feel like he's really good at those knots.
Well, yeah, clearly.
Yeah, right.
Right.
No, we see a lot of like how tied up is Nephi right now?
How tight those ropes are bound around his four.
Yes, exactly. Yeah.
But just then the Leahona stops working.
Yeah.
And a storm, like, brews on the horizon and layman fucking cackles in case it wasn't clear
enough.
Yeah, he might as well get struck by lightning and be like, coincidence, not a big deal.
Happens to the best of us.
What we're supposed to believe here, and this is true, of course, to the Book of Mormon
story is that God's like, oh, you're going to fuck with Nephi.
Well, I'll sink the whole damn boat then.
I'll kill his family and him.
Right.
The storm starts hitting and dad is like, layman, you have to take down the sail.
And he's like, don't tell me what to do.
Dad, go.
But he does.
He takes it down and Sam is trying to hold the tiller, but he could barely hold on.
And then Mule falls from like eight stories and he's just like, sad is all.
It's great because like nothing happens.
They just there's a storm and then they let me fight go.
But even the folks who made the 22 minute Book of Mormon animated episode knew that
wouldn't fill an episode.
So they're like, well, what if a bunch of stuff almost happens?
We could fill a cartoon with that.
Yeah, exactly.
What if a bunch of things that have all this shit is added?
Yeah, none of it's in here.
I was looking like it's just there are iniquities and then they tie him up
and then there's a storm and then they untie him.
Like, there's a scene where Nephi's wife comes up to try to untie him.
That's not canon. Yeah. They added that.
No. And also, like, not only is it not canon, but it's really important.
Like, this is the part where the animation falls apart the worst, right?
Like, any time they have to do wet, you really see how bad these animators are.
The water that's supposed to be coming in through the seams, the tears in people's eyes
and everything just looks fucking ridiculous.
And we linger here for minutes and minutes and minutes because they've got nothing else
in their fucking story.
But what is in the story they didn't put in the story,
it says, wherefore they came unto me,
this is when they actually finally untie him,
wherefore they came unto me and loosed the bands
which were upon my wrists and behold,
they had swollen exceedingly.
And also my ankles were swollen
and great was the soreness thereof.
They weren't swollen.
I didn't see any sore hands.
I guess they couldn't figure out how to animate swelling.
Where was the four minute montage of Nephi being like, we don't have any of those special socks, do we?
Really? They dedicate a whole verse to it.
They have more time on that than they have on the storm. Yeah. Yeah.
So, yeah. But in the story, like we're three days into the storm, right?
We cut to three days later.
We're down in the decks below, right, where everybody's hunkered down and shit.
And the layman's wife is like, Oh, the
baby's gonna starve because he's so seasick. He can't eat. And
everybody's like, Yeah, man, sure wish your husband would stop
being a fucking prick and pissing God off. Yeah. Right. So
then little Jacob decides he's had enough. So he's going to go
out and give layman a what for apparently Apparently layman and Sam have just been holding
onto the tiller for three straight days now.
I mean, it gets to be four.
It's the fourth day that they finally untie him.
Oh, I guess it is.
Right. So yeah, they're into the fourth day now.
So they start yelling at Jacob in his anger.
Layman knocks Jacob off the boat in the storm.
Now, luckily Jacob grabs a rope as he's flipping backwards off the side of the boat.
And he's, you know, so now he's just being drug along and Sam goes to rescue him.
And they have this exact exchange.
Sam says, hold on.
Jacob says, Sam, I can't hold on.
Sam says, try Jacob
But do it or some Scott card ladies
Yeah, but do though is this fucking counter and then he's like help me and I'm like What is fuck do you think he's doing with the rope man fucking lasso tricks?
So yeah, so but then at that point they bring Jacob back up and they're like, come
on, layman, cut him fucking free.
It's been we're on the fourth day.
It says in the book you can cut him free on the fourth day.
So he does. Yeah.
And not only does the storm clear, but it becomes daytime all of a sudden as well.
Yeah. You say that God is satiated, decides he isn't going to kill everybody's family
and everybody emerges and they're all very happy.
Yep. So the next day we get Jacob, he's waking up and there are goals everywhere because
they're they found land.
And we get one of these great moments that we've seen this a million times on got off
and lose one of these moments where like everybody's trying to woohoo and they're
trying to like they've got like six actors try to sound like 50 people and One guy's got a very distinct woohoo that he does three goddamn times
Yeah, the animation of this point of the story because you could they are counting down to 22 minutes at this point
They might as well be telling their story like they're stalling while someone sneaks past the guard
And then they lowered the mizzen mask
the guards. And then they lowered the mizzen mast. And then?
And then?
The plank.
So wait, at this point, they've reached land. Somebody, again, please explain to me the
history of the religion of my people, the very new religion of my people. Is this America?
Yes.
Or are they still somewhere in Israel? Okay, so the Promised Land, they have made it to
America now because this is where the Nephites
and the Lamanites eventually will become Native American, like indigenous tribes.
Well, only the Lamanites, the Nephites will die out.
Oh, right.
And yeah, and they're still pure and white.
And it's a punishment.
It's not like they...
Yeah.
Yikes.
But so this is the promised land.
They sailed somehow from Israel to America.
Yes. Yes. Uh huh. It's going to get worse. But yes.
In like four days?
Well, there were a lot of days, there was a lot of coming to pass that they skipped
for the purposes of the...
Yeah. Yada, yada, yada.
But yeah, but they arrive at the new world. Nephi is the first that thinks to like, you know,
kneel down in his righteousness and thank God
from getting them safely across and everything.
But everybody follows suit eventually.
I wanted the brothers to attack him again.
Wait, there's something amazing here.
So before he starts writing in the plates, right?
Cause this is the end of verse Nephi.
There's a verse, I'm so sorry, you guys.
I know it's so fun to hear me read from the Book of Mormon, but, and it came to pass that we did find upon the land of
promise as we journeyed in the wilderness, that there were beasts in the forests of every
kind, both cow and the ox and the ass and the horse and the goat and the wild goat.
So there were domestic goats in the promised land.
And horses. Where there were no people in the promised land. And horses.
Where there were no people, according to them?
No, at this point, yeah, that's their contention.
Yeah.
God, Joseph Smith was really stupid.
Oh my God.
There's a point, Kara, in the first fucking book where he's able to make a sword, Nephi
is able to make a sword because he studied a different sword.
He looked at it long enough. Saw another long enough to figure out how it was made. That's how he figured out how to make iron.
Yeah. So, okay. So that's the end of that episode. And now it's time to move on to the
next episode, but we're using Eli counting. So we actually are doing the eighth episode
of the series.
I was so confused here because it literally says the Animated Book of Mormon episodes
three and four. And I was like, Eli, it literally says the animated Book of Mormon episodes 3 & 4 and I was like Eli
This is not so the reason that we are doing it in this order is I'm going through the
Chronology of the Book of Mormon. No, you're not though. No, you're not. This is ether. This is the last chapter
Yeah, this is like I'm going through like the
Chronology no, but this goes back to 2500 right?
So then this would have been first if we were actually going by the...
Yeah, but that was confusing.
Would you like to rescue it in a different direction?
I had to do a lot of math.
There's a lot of math to figure out why.
Really I think you just were into boats.
Yeah, right.
I wanted a boat.
Well, I know exactly why we did this one, but we're not gonna I'm not gonna spoil it just yet
But first, okay, so this is this is the brother of Jared, right?
We're gonna learn the story of the Jaredites stay with me exmos
Don't spoil it for the fucking people who don't know don't spoil it
So, okay, so we're gonna start off with a kid learning all about the honey trade. Hey, hey guys
Admittedly, I don't know anything about how ancient honey harvesting went, but I feel
like put honeycomb on stick, spin stick so that the honeycomb, honey stuff all comes
out with cent, centrifugal force.
Is that how it works?
I mean, it feels like that would have worked.
So yeah, probably.
It might be how it works.
Probably.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I couldn't correct it. It looked silly. I wanted to make fun of it, but I could be wrong. Yeah, I'm, I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't correct it. It looked silly.
I wanted to make fun of it, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, same.
Same.
This was so...
Okay, so just for everybody, I guess we're not spoiling it, but for those who are following
along with their personalized volume of the Book of Mormon.
With their engraved Book of Mormon at home.
And because remember, if you don't know this, you get the Old and New Testament with your
Book of Mormon
Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price because they are all cross tabulated.
Like the indexes all go together.
So this is a Genesis story that's connected to the quote,
Jaredite record in the Book of Mormon, which is detailed in the Book of Ether.
Not Esther. You think it says Esther.
No, it is Ether and it will put you to sleep at the same fucking rate.
Yes. The best thing, the only good thing I can say about ether is that it's not Alma.
So and oh, we should also point out.
So at the beginning of this, it's all bees and shit.
So that buzzing sound that triggers Eli so bad is just all you hear for the first
27 minutes of this 28 minute bad is just all you hear for the first 27 minutes
of this 28 minute movie. It's just so much beat.
Super fun.
Who is the kid, by the way? Like this is a weird scene because the kid is saying to his
mom, I'm too little to work. And she goes, if you're old enough to know you're little,
you're old enough to work. And I was like, Whoa, Mormon fucked up.
Mormon ethics.
Jesus. Yeah. Jesus.
Yeah.
But yeah, but this kid has nothing to do with anything in the fucking movie.
I guess that it's like, it's a cartoon for kids and they think that they need to have
a kid character to be the viewer analog in it, I guess.
Well, and also we are, when you're raised in the church, like as a kid, as a girl, at
least we were called the beehives.
Yeah, right.
Like that was like, Mormons just like bees a lot.
Yes. Yeah, exactly.
They like to see bees as a symbol of Mormons all working together in the hive or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah. And like milk and honey, they use that.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, okay.
So then we cut to a bunch of shirtless studs building the Tower of Beth. And we we get another one of these, cause you know,
we saw that when we panned over the boat that they were building, it was just people hammering
wood for no fucking reason on the building. A lot of people's job is just wiping the walls.
I guess they want to be good and polished.
It's a big part of building the Tower of Babel. I also love this because we see that the Tower
of Babel, of course, cause they were trying to reach heaven, is above the cloud line.
But they illustrated their floors badly.
So it's apparently four stories up to the above the cloud.
Yeah, they had real low clouds back in Babylon at that time.
Clouds were very low then.
Well, also, I find it fucking hilarious because they want to make it look like
there's a lot of activity going on, right?
Because you don't want to just have activity
in one spot in your animation.
So they've got people building walls all the way down
and I'm like, I feel like they would just build it
one floor at a time back then.
Guys.
Yeah.
Now I see your problem.
And then we get Kara's best worst, right?
This is where the old lady is going to sell her honey to the funny guy from New York.
Yeah, his name.
He has a name.
I wrote it somewhere farther down.
Maybe I wrote it up here.
Is it Checombe?
Yeah.
No, Checombe was the not quite sheckled.
Simus.
Simus.
Okay, yeah.
So Simus is darker in hue than the others.
He has a very large nose.
He is working like a stall.
—He owns Anakin and his mom.
—And of course, he's ripping off an old woman who's trying to sell—yeah.
—Old woman trying to sell her honey
And he like he's like hey look over there, and then puts bugs in it, and then he's like oh your honey's full of bugs
I'll only give you half a shekel yeah, right rough
I also I should point out like this isn't necessary for the story of the Tower of Babylon, right?
It's not like you know people before the flood or Sodom and Gomorrah
We're trying to establish that a whole town was bad.
Right. Because you'd put a scene like this in to establish the town was bad.
Everyone was in it is bad.
Don't feel bad. But like in the story of the Tower of Babel,
God's just bad because they built a thing that was too tall.
The tower. Right. Yeah.
Everyone is not supposed to be evil involved in the project.
But isn't it kind of implied that all the people chose to build the tower because of
like the false idols and all the shit?
Yeah, and the kids of Pickpocket that we see.
They are very clearly trading this to...
They've lost their way.
Their wayward Babylonians.
Yeah.
They are Babylonians, right?
I guess, yeah.
Yeah, I think the tower of the Babel story is supposed to be in Babylonia.
But then to further enforce that, right, we get the two righteous brothers, Jared and
here's another one of those great goddamn Joseph Smith names, Mahonrai.
Yeah, I was so confused by that.
I was like, this isn't in the original canon, is it?
No.
I'm just saying, you know, it's very easy to judge Joseph Smith, but I challenge all
of you to put your face into a ski cap for six hours
a day while your dumbest friend writes down what you have to say and see how good the
names you come up with are.
Yeah, but like, like next to each other, this one's in time. It would be one thing if it
was like Mahone Rye and Phleblucan.
Yes, right.
Jared.
Jared does.
Yeah, like I know like three Jareds.
I know this isn't true, but I always imagine that the names got weird when Martin's wife
would walk in the room, right?
Like he'd be like, Jared, and then she'd be like, can I get you guys anything?
And he'd be like, and Mahone Rye.
Mahone Rye also impressed much.
But yeah, but when Jared and Mahone Rye, the righteous brothers, working everybody in the
town starts making fun of them for being so pious and loving God so much, right?
Oh, you got some you can marry him that you know
One of them goes. Oh, hey, what's the do you're talking to still talking to God Mahone, right? What's the latest word?
What's the word from God and Mahone right turns around and he goes?
repent
Yeah, every missionary I've ever said politely, no thank you to, is wet dreams.
Yes, right, right.
Yeah.
But one of the townsfolk turns to Mahone Ryan and goes, hey, I bet our tower makes it to
heaven before you do.
Huh?
So, but he's off to preach to the people.
While he's doing that, Jared, his brother's gonna go and do some work in town, which includes selling some honey to that fucking Hitler propaganda piece from earlier.
Simus.
Yeah, Simus. He tries to... Simus tries that bug trick with Jared's honey,
but he's no gullible old lady. He catches him.
And here's what he says. Are you ready?
Yes, please.
Are you ready?
So he tries the bugs, he catches his hand, and he goes, what are you doing?
You put bugs in my thing.
And he goes, no, that's nothing.
I just biffed both Samagodat.
Blues, blabbing knee.
Blues, blabbing knee.
Just like that.
Yes, this is where we get my best.
Everybody's trying to do their fake made up language and it's just a bunch of white guys
that are like, oh, what is Asian sound like that the language Asian? Um
Yeah, Biff Bo Samma Go Dad
Biff Bo Samma Go Dad is the least problematic language
I also like that Jared and his brother land on the same language
That was convenient. Yeah, not part of the Book of Mormon or part of the Bible story.
So I was very impressed by that.
Oh really?
Yeah.
I just read that as luckily Jared and Mahonrai still speak white.
Yes.
They still speak pure.
Delightful.
I think the idea here is that they are not part of the town, right?
They were just in town for the time.
So them and the old lady who got ripped off on her honey, there'll be fine.
Everybody else is going to babble, right?
Because this is the Genesis story, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Tower battle. And then, yeah, all the people.
The tower doesn't actually fall though in the story, does it?
Well, not here. Well, not yet. Because like the two guys, like everybody starts babbling
and they're like, oh, let us kneel and pray to make sure that
our language doesn't change and we can still talk to each other. And I'm like, are you
sure? Because there's an earthquake going on and there's a rickety tower right next
to you. They were building like the second floor and the 31st floor at the same time,
guys.
But in the actual Bible story, does it actually fall?
Oh, I don't know. No, I don't think it does. I don't believe so.
I do love this moment though, because they're praying and the last words he says of the prayer is please Lord
Keep us safe and then a giant rock almost fall
I just googled. I'm so sorry. I just googled does the Tower of Babel actually fall and it auto corrected
You know how it like auto fills does the Tower of Babel actually exist God people
Common fucking Google search.
Oh, wow.
Yikes.
Where can I take my family to see the Tower of Babel?
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah, but yeah.
So the, but the tower falls and they, and they run off
and there's this weird moment where they're just like
standing next to the gate, like the city gate
and they go, we can't stay here.
And I'm like, well, in that gate.
Well, no, obviously you can't stay there.
Yeah.
He goes, we should head home.
And I'm like, yeah, well, that's where you should stay.
Obviously.
It's pretty clear.
So, okay.
So, but that night Mahonrai is praying to God for direction where they should go next.
We get the two kids listening in on them, right?
They're eavesdropping on God?
Yeah, eavesdropping on God.
Yeah, we all wrote that actually.
And God's literally like, get your people and your sheep, because sheep are important
when you're lonely.
Who knows?
Like those are the only two things he said they had to gather. Yep. People and sheep.
And you're going to go to the land of choice.
Yes.
The choicest of the land.
A choice land.
And then like a pirate catches the kids eavesdropping
and he's like, don't eavesdrop.
And then he eavesdrops.
Oh, and he makes fun of the kid and the kid's name is Pag.
Is he?
Did you guys catch that?
No, I did not catch that.
Yeah, there's a kid named Pag because of because he's good at names.
I feel like maybe like Orson Scott Carr didn't want to one up Joseph Smith in the name making
up category at this point.
He's like, I can't have good names for my characters and silly ones for his.
Oh, I'm looking this up.
Maybe Pag exists in either.
I don't think so.
My favorite part about this is that he he yells at the kids for eavesdropping then he eavesdrops
But then Jared comes out and tells him the plan so there was no point. No
No, nothing at all and he goes he goes we shall head north and everybody's like north north fucking sucks
Yeah, why are they all so upset about north? Yeah, they say no man has ever been north
And I wrote in my notes the direction like people have been or ratcheting your way south the entire history of humankind
I don't think that's right. Wait a minute. There is a pag, but his name is pag gag
He's the son of the brother of Jared and
My bad, I'm so sorry, I would take in Kara back to her room you have no idea
How many Mormons are relieved
right they've been screaming at their car
It's a gag
Pegag action figure when I was a kid it was my favorite of the Jaredites furiously re signing up for our patreon
So, okay, so now we get Levi.
He's that's I don't know.
He's probably in the fucking book, too.
But he's the pirate guy that caught the kids.
Oh, Levi's for sure.
Well, there's definitely some Levi in there.
Yeah, there's probably like 10.
Yeah, right, right.
So they're now doing an inventory before they head north.
We get some pig shenanigans.
We get an infinite fish shenanigan.
Yes. Yeah, that I guess that was included because they thought this would be funny to children, right?
Yeah.
So it's actually almost a funny moment, right?
Which is that the guy is like fishing with his hands and then he takes the fish and he
puts it in the pot full of water behind him and then the fish jumps out and then he catches
the fish.
Yeah, because he's like, ooh, there's so many.
Ooh, look, another fish.
They do this bit, podcast listener, four times.
I wrote in my notes, did Heath start this?
No, no.
No, it's not gonna tell me how many times
I can animate this fish guy, god damn it.
And you can tell that this guy is like the town
kind of like special friend,
because when they're all turning in
their animals, the guy looks into the pot and there's nothing in it and he goes, do
you think it's enough? And the guy's like, yeah, it's great. That's how Noah and Heath
talked to me about my edits over on D and D minus. I was like, pretty good, huh? And
they're like, yeah, people who hear that show are going to love it. God, my boyfriend's one of them, isn't he?
So, yeah.
So, yeah, but they gather the bees.
There's a weird moment where the kid goes like, Peg, the kid, you know.
Come on, Pegag.
Yeah, where Pegag is like.
This is Pegag-eration.
Yeah.
So, but Pegag is like, well, I don't want to get the bees.
What if they bite? And the dude's like, well, they won't. And I'm like, well, I don't want to get the bees. What if they bite?
And the dude's like, well, they won't.
And I'm like, well, yeah, no, they won't bite.
Though I feel like we can be confident in that.
Good call.
Good call.
What?
Oh, he says that really fucked up thing.
So the kid gets the bees like all unafraid.
He doesn't get stung.
He sets them down and dude is like, man, if I had your faith, like good stuff would come
my way. And I was like, oh, so he had your faith, like good stuff would come my way.
And I was like, oh, so he's obviously just like fucking with this kid.
Right. Like you expected that kid to get the shit stung out of him.
Yes. I would have been a good prank.
Yeah. Would have been good.
All right. Well, some of us know what they're about to load those bees on to, and those
folks need a minute to brace themselves.
So we're going to take a quick break.
But first, let me give Act 3 the hard sell.
Is it even possible to generate suspense at this point in the story?
Does our format break down when we do two short films instead of one long one?
Why don't I just adjust it as necessary?
Find out the answers to something I'm sure when we return for the expensively cheap looking
conclusion of The Brother of Jared.
He went to the brother of Jared.
You went to the brother of Jared?
Kara, Kara, you got to help me.
Eli, what's the matter?
Where's Noah?
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I was going through your phone because I thought maybe you'd have Magic Mike's
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Alright Noah, thanks!
Hey, why were you worried about me anyway?
Oh, so I texted everyone in Kara's phone that I wanted you to get ripped and three people
texted back getting a van now.
Oh.
Yeah, no, that's no good.
Yeah, if that was Larry Wilmore, you should run.
I knew I was scared of him for a reason.
Joseph!
Joseph!
Yes, Martin?
I have just finished reading the marvelous story of Jared.
Marvelous indeed.
Yes, yes, many marvelous.
For instance, the Lord installed no mechanism for air in the miraculous vessels.
I wonder how they breathed.
Oh, did, uh, did God not mention that in the book?
No, no, not once!
Ah, well, if I recall, in the next verse, the angel Moroni told me that he's going to
tell them to open the top sometimes.
Open the top?
Yep.
It's going to let all the air in.
Well, why wouldn't that let in the water? Nope, it won't because they're going to close it before the water gets in.
Before the water?
Yep, yes.
Well, you know, I suppose God can do all things.
Indeed he can, Martin.
Yeah, but wow, to navigate the ocean with no lights at all, that is truly a wonder, no?
I forgot the light.
I mean, God forgot the lights?
Well, indeed, there was nary a mention of them.
Well, wait till you hear what God gave them for light, Martin.
It was glowing rocks.
Rocks, you say? Throwing rocks.
Wow.
A lot of God magic is done via rocks in this story.
Yeah, well, I stare at a hat full of rocks all day, Martin.
What?
I said mysterious ways.
Oh, yes, mysterious indeed.
And we're back for still more of this shit.
We're going to rejoin the action late that night with Mahone Rye trying to get some sleep
with his son pastors him about some bullshit.
He's got this great moment where he says to his kids like, Dad, are you scared?
Super long pause.
No.
I wanted the kid to be like, you're fucking scared.
Yeah, right. This part's weird.
He asked him about like, if they encounter lions or tigers or bears.
Okay.
They're in Babylon.
Yes.
It's 2400 before the common era.
Yes.
How does this kid know what a lion or a tiger is?
Think they had lions and tigers.
They didn't have bears that far south.
Definitely didn't have bears.
I think they had Caspian lions.
Oh, did they have Caspian lions?
Or Caspian tigers, rather.
Did they have lions?
They definitely had lions.
Yeah, there were lions, Asiatic lions all over there.
Who was going to eat the Christians.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
So there were lions and tigers, but there were no bears.
No, I think that was just a rhyme that Joseph Smith remembered.
Yeah, exactly right. Yeah
What goes with lions and tigers, yeah, and they're doing that really lazy animation trick
And it's actually very clever right which is that when you you don't want to animate a scene fully what you can do is you can pan
The camera quote-unquote back and forth over an image to create movement where there isn't a lot
So you just have to animate the character's mouths, right?
And Disney uses this really effectively a bunch of times.
This movie does not.
It seems like the cameras on a metronome.
Oh, my God. And it's just nauseous.
Like you're about to vomit by the time.
It's seasickness inducing. Yes.
But just then, as they're as they're trying to get some sleep,
there's some godlight under the door and Mahonrai walks out and there's this pulsating cloud that looks like something that you would
fight in Super Metroid.
My sympathy really went to the makers of the animated Book of Mormon here because you really
this was a lot harder to animate than it was for Joseph to make up off the top of his head.
Yeah, it's a great cloud that they had to follow.
So that, yeah.
So then we get just this
fucking montage now of everybody following this pulsating cloud
blob through the twilight.
Oh, my God, the emotions that you were able to project under this.
There's a moment where they're like struggling over these rocks
and can't quite make it.
And so the cloud stops and like you have a moment where the cloud is being like, hurry it up a little bit. You guys mind?
Can you get into hiding the cloud here?
It's hard to keep all these cloud particles together. Yeah. Right. Well, also like the
cloud is God. He could just float the fucking cart over the goddamn rocks. But I guess
God isn't as generous as fucking ET.
Right.
I'm so sorry. I clearly like just
stopped responding because I started
Googling if an Asiatic lion or
a Caspian tiger was bigger.
This is what you're here for, Kara.
You're here to be the voice of a
people.
OK. On Reddit.
The source of all truth.
Megafauna are wilding
three years ago. An Asiatic lion and
Caspian tiger clash in the Caucasus. OK. lions will go extinct blah blah. Okay, AI overview in a
hypothetical one-on-one fight a Caspian tiger would likely be favored to win
against an Asiatic lion. Not enough to find out there weren't bears there. But
the dad did say I think you should be more concerned about tigers than lions, right?
Yeah, no, he did.
In 45 minutes, Kara's gonna chime in with,
Okay guys, I got it!
Actually, there was a bear there. The Syrian black bear would sometimes wander. Yeah.
The episode will be over.
I did the same thing when I googled whether they had ox carts,
because I was like, what year is it?
Yeah, right, right.
They did. They did. did they did yeah, I had a spoke to wheels even I had a weird
Fascination with fucking Babylonian history as a kid. So yeah, I actually knew that one
That's how you knew about the Lions and the time. Yes, yeah
Cuz I was just thinking about modern lines and tigers
I'd also officially like to resent Noah using the past tense about his fascination for Babylonia
This show oh, yeah, you don't care about for Babylonians. No, I moved on to a trust. Until this show.
Oh yeah, you don't care about the Babylonians at all.
I don't read about them as much now.
As much.
There it is.
Wait, okay, so where are we now, you guys?
So we are wandering to the shores of fucking,
I guess the Mediterranean Sea.
Has the kid found the shiny rock? He I guess the Mediterranean Sea.
Has the kid found the shiny rock?
Yes, he did.
He just found the shiny rock.
Okay, hello foreshadowing.
We all called this one, right?
He's like, oh, well I've read the book,
but yeah, he's like, yeah, look at this glowing rock.
Well, I guess it's not quite glowing,
but it is quite shiny.
I wrote so many times in my notes,
things like the rock shineth,
or Jacob pu shineth.
Jacob Puketh.
And it came to pass that Jacob Puketh.
So yeah.
And but they get to this big fucking sea and they're like, okay, now what smarty pants?
And he's like, well, the Lord's got it sorted out.
I'm sure what we're going to need is a fleet of drum roll, please. Submarine submarine.
Eli, Eli, how tight will the submarines be?
Tight as a dish, baby.
Tight as a dish.
Yes, sir.
So we actually get them making their goddamn wooden submarines.
Yes. And they made this dumber than it is in the Book of Mormon,
which is a fucking achievement, right?
In the Book of Mormon, they're just like, they took the ships,
they were tight as a dish, they got over there,
glow in the dark rocks.
We'll talk about those in a second.
But for some reason, in the animated episode,
they choose to have a character ask all the questions one
would logically ask about wooden
submarines and the answers are worse than the answers in the Book of Mormon.
Yeah.
Yeah, because one day he goes, well, there's no light in there.
And he's like, well, if no light can get in, no air can get in.
And I'm like, well, that's not how air works.
What are you talking about?
Have you never been in the dark and breathing?
What the fuck are you talking about?
And then Jared responds, that's okay. We'll just open it a little bit and then close it
before the water gets in. And everyone's like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah. He's literally
like, just give the submarines a blowhole. Yes. Yeah. Well, obviously. So yeah, because
while Jared is talking to the people about this.
Mahone rise up on the mountain, talking to God and saying, hey, man,
how the fuck will we breathe?
And yeah, so God recommends a blowhole.
And he's like, well, won't the water get it?
And he's like, well, when the water starts getting and plug it, plug it in again.
Well, that's how a blowhole works.
That is how a blowhole works. Yeah.
And he goes, well, how will we steer?
He's like, I'm God.
I'm just going to make the waves go that way, dude. Yep. And then he goes, well. How will we steer? He's like I'm God. I'm just gonna make the waves go that way dude
Yep, and then he goes well. How will we have light and God is like oh my fucking God with your bitching
What the hell man? Okay? This is insane cuz I have to emphasize
This is not in the Book of Mormon God goes. I thought this part was oh where God goes. What do you think?
Yeah, I think I I think it was.
Oh, okay.
That makes me feel much better.
Okay, actually makes me feel much better that this is in the Book of Mormon and not just
Orson Scott Card going, I bet God would be a shitty boomer dad about this.
Yeah, but God's like, you know, I don't know what do you want to do about the light?
And he's like, well, I don't know.
You're God.
And he's like, well, I guess I'm just going to solve all the fucking problems, aren't
I? And all of us are watching him. He's like, well, I guess I'm just going to solve all the fucking problems, aren't I?
And all of us are watching him. We're going to glowing rock.
Yeah. You already showed the glowing.
We found the key to bad movies in Kara's heart.
We just need to make Mormon movie month all year every year for all of their parents.
Yeah, they don't sell. We drag her in.
So, yeah, but we have to have that.
We have to draw this out so fucking long.
So that night, Mahone Raya is sitting by the fire pondering the how will we see problem?
Right. Notice that nobody is dealing with the where will we shit problem,
which deserves quite a bit of attention, I would think.
I asked the same thing.
I was like, it's probably so stinky in there.
You would think, yeah. Yes.
So but yeah, but he's thinking about their overlaying animations from earlier because
that's cheaper than coming up with new stuff.
And then he looks down at the fire and he sees that there's rocks glowing near the fire
and he like, and he's like, right, rocks can glow.
Yeah, just like that kid.
That kid found a glowy raw.
Yeah, I really wanted to flash cut to the submarine bursting into flames because they
fill it with hot coals.
Okay, not not that kind of glowing.
Okay, all right. Let me ask God about a different.
Yeah. So God, he did.
Or my home right.
Gathers up some rocks and he's like, hey, man, I brought these rocks up the mountain.
And he's like, that's weird that you brought them because there are rocks here.
It's a mountain.
And he goes, right. No, but I brought some.
He's like, can you charge them up with your light finger like ET?
And he goes, strangely enough, yes, I can. So we watch as this cloud blob sticks a finger out one at a time.
So erotic.
It is.
Thank you.
It is, right?
Well, and it's made all the more erotic because God's doing that thing where you think someone's
asking for a dick pic, but you need to be sure because you don't want to end your career
and your family.
Right.
God's like, I don't know.
So do you see my finger?
Do you, um, do you want to see anything else?
He does.
He literally has that.
You want to see the rest of me?
He goes, he goes, did you see more than my finger?
And he goes, and then, and fucking Mahonrai says, and I quote, show yourself unto me.
And I'm like, are you asking if God is a cop?
What the hell?
And it's not God, it's Jesus,
because God and Jesus are separate beings.
That's right.
So the Lord here is Jesus.
He shows himself and he has, you guessed it, blue eyes.
He does, yes.
Blue eyed Jesus.
Blue eyed Jesus.
And I thought I really wanted Mahonrai to go, oh, we're in a robe. Yeah. No, of course. That's what
I had in my shirt. Yeah. You know, of course, of course a robe, but yeah. And he goes, because
of your faith, I can't withhold anything from you. I will teach you all things, the future
in the past and all of the, all things about all of humanity, matrix style. And he goes,
really? And he's like, yeah, but you got to promise not to spoil my big crucifixion reveal though. Okay, you can't can't tell anybody until later
Also, I just want to apologize that this is good
Inevitably going to include all the seasons of Love Island as well
It just felt weird for me to be like I'm'm gonna leave out one TV show. So yeah, you know, it's like you're also gonna see all the seasons of The Violin.
Is this part, so is Jared in the Bible at all?
No, no.
So they made him up.
Yeah.
Okay.
Did you know that they made it all up, Kara?
I know they made it all up, but they made it all up to try and like vibe it with the
Bible.
Yeah.
Did you know that they were in the valley of Nimrod here?
Yeah.
Oh, there's so many interesting names.
Yeah.
Nimrod.
Nimrod.
Isn't it?
I don't know.
This might be a powerful, but the story is that Nimrod became an insult because of a
Bugs Bunny cartoon.
It is because of the Bugs Bunny cartoon.
Yeah.
He was using it to reference the great hunter, the mighty hunter, and everybody else
just thought it was a word for idiot.
Yeah, it's just a name to call someone.
Yeah.
But so Nimrod is in the Bible.
Yes, Nimrod is.
Yeah, he's a hunter.
Yeah.
God, so half the time they just recycle Bible words.
Other times they're like, if I add a letter, she's not Sarah, she's Sarai.
At best they were recycling Bible words, at worst they're the anti-Nephilehi.
Yeah.
You go on, you end up praying for those Bible ripoff words.
Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. You sure you didn't have another?
So yeah, so now we get Mahonrai. He's given all the light rocks to the various submarines, right?
They each have like a light bulb now.
Oh yeah, and they're all like fist pumping. And at this point, I know a lot you guys,
my boyfriend goes, because he was raised a Unitarian, so he is very far away from that.
Get out of here.
Yeah, yeah. So he turns to him and he goes, so is this just like fanfic about the Bible?
Yup.
He goes, who the fuck came up with this? And I was like, Joseph Smith.
Got it in one.
I could tell him so many good stories.
So good. Yeah.
So then they get their little glowy rocks and they they plug up
their little blowholes and they set up and they set off in the,
I guess, into the Mediterranean Sea and then, you know,
through the Straits of Gibraltar into the ocean and then on to America.
But they they tease us for a second like they're not going to go full submarine, but they
go full submarine. You bet your asses they do.
Oh, yeah, because they pop up out of the water like a submarine.
So this submarine montage, it's accompanied by a song.
And I have a very important question.
Did the singer of this song have a super terrible, super obvious lisp?
Or did I imagine that out of boredom?
I think it was another one of those VHS DVDs.
For some reason, I got it locked in my head while I was listening to this song that this
person was doing the musical montage like this.
So for those of you who watch along with us, if you if you've also given Living
Scriptures, none of your money for your monthly thing, please verify that I did
not hallucinate alone.
So I got to be honest with you, Eli.
I don't know, because I had tuned this music out so bad that even though they
were translating the lyrics on the subtitles that I was looking at, I still couldn't like my brain
was tuning it out all together.
By this point, you were in a fugue state.
I get it.
Because all of the music just sounded the same.
At one point they actually hit the same song twice.
And so then it just felt like the same song over and over again.
And I'm like, I'm not getting tricked into paying attention to lyrics again.
Right.
So, okay. But so then we watch the kid like they're in the submarine, the kids bored with the submarine trip. And I'm like, we're all like, yeah, I get it, kid. We be to Jesus
Christ. Are you sure these things are only 26 minutes long? But then he sees land.
Just like last time.
Exactly like the story that we just fucking watched because Joseph Smith can't come up
with new fucking stories.
Yes.
Well, and I even wrote, so where are they now?
Because America doesn't happen for a long time, I don't think.
Right.
So I'm wrong.
They're in America.
Yes.
Yeah.
Ultimately, at some point in his stupid fucking ramblings, Joseph Smith found it necessary
to have some some Israelites that were already there in order to move the story forward.
And so he was like, Oh, no, exactly the same thing happened to them only with submarines
this time.
Oh, because the Jaredites become the mulekites, which ultimately merge with the Nephites to
create the modern Nephites.
Yes.
And something about Alma the Elder and, and then Gadd, the Anton robbers.
At this point, he's just trying to get his D&D campaign to end up in upstate
New York, and he's really.
So and then like, yeah, we get this one shot of the submarines
approaching the new world.
The perspective is just fucking nuts on that.
It bothered me so bad. But then they get to the new world, they release is just fucking nuts on that. It bothered me so bad.
But then they get to the new world, they release the bees so that they can go on to,
you know, symbolize Mormonism or whatnot.
And the episode ends. So, no, I have to ask you guys, because at the end of these episodes,
it gives you the option to take the quiz.
Oh, yeah.
There's also a coloring book.
Yep. There's a coloring book.
There's a quiz and then you have another option or something else.
But did anybody else take the quiz?
Yeah, they did.
I was not given. They've caught on to me.
They know I'm the podcaster.
I didn't get the quiz.
Oh, yeah. I'm not doing that except for extra money.
You guys.
Yeah.
It's like that's not.
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
Well, I took the quiz and I'm just like, well, you know, I bet this will this
there will be a lot of humor going on here. There'll be something funny I'm not doing that. Well, I took the quiz and I'm just like, well, you know, I bet this will just there'll be
a lot of humor going on here.
There'll be something funny to pull out of that.
And it asks you at the beginning or like, do you want to begin or middle or expert quiz?
I'm like, well, I'm a fucking expert.
I'll take the fucking expert quiz.
And then it's just like completely not funny.
Were you paying attention at all to this thing that you just watched?
Kind of shit.
So, you know, it's like prove to mom that you actually watched it kind of stuff.
And then mom says you can have your Nintendo back if you pass the expert.
It was right. That's all it was.
Who it just it really but it was kind of a window into just how bad it is
to be a Mormon kid growing up, right.
That like even your entertainment is like, all right, but did you pay enough attention
to pass the fucking quiz about your entertainment?
That's so boring that you otherwise wouldn't have paid
attention to.
This is what drove Kara onto American Idol season two.
OK, people.
You guys, you have no idea.
Kara, I have looked so hard for that.
The amount of hard I have looked for that footage is disconcerting.
I love that you're still. That was not what I was referring to.
But yes, being a Mormon child is rough.
Yeah.
If you, I mean, if you just think about the amount of time dedicated to Mormonism as a
child, you're going to church for three hours every Sunday.
You're doing youth group every Wednesday night after school for like two or three hours.
And then once you're, oh, and Monday is family home evening.
Usually the missionaries are coming to your house for dinner.
And then once you're old enough to be in high school, you're going to
seminary before school for an hour every day.
Jesus.
It was brutal.
And all of that without soda.
Well, and then, yeah, or, or, or cigarettes or booze.
And then you get home and you have to watch this shit.
Wolf. All right. Well, hey, Kara, thanks so much for reliving your childhood
trauma for our entertainment.
And anytime.
Don't you miss Iron Man, the musical now?
All right. Well, that's going to do it for our review of the animated book of
Mormon episodes three and eight.
But that's not going to do it for the episode just yet, because we still need some
more Mormonism for next week.
So Eli, tell us what's on deck.
Well, Noah, we might have enjoyed ourselves poking fun at the Book of Mormon this week,
but our movie next week will remind us that the Bible can be just as silly.
So we'll be watching the Netflix Bible blockbuster, Mary, Mother of Jesus.
Oh, that's a damn short Mormon movie month.
But OK, with that to look forward to, we're going to bring episode 514 to a merciful close.
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live on stick I'm no longer just promised to work hard to earn
a laundry truck next week. I got through all those words. Until
then, we'll leave you with the American graffiti clothes.
Jared begat or right.
The son of shul, son of Omer who is the son ofib, who is the son of Shul, who is the son of Omer, who is the son of Emer,
who is the son of Coriantum, then Combe, then Heth, then Shes, and then Riplakish, then
Morianton, then Kim, then Levi.
Okay.
M.Negada is in there somewhere, but they all came from Aether, a descendant of Coriantor,
who was the son of Moron.
I shit you not. M-O-R-O-N.
Look it up. It's in Ether, Chapter One.
Kara would go on to learn that that was only the 813th silliest name in that book.
Oh, God.
Kara's boyfriend and Eli still didn't find the strength to reveal their affair to her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Oh, you guys are gonna love each other so much.
So much. We're gonna be such good friends.
I'm so excited.
You're just gonna be alone.
You're gonna be alone doing cool people stuff while I'm like, yeah, this Warhammer Mini.
Here's my concern.
You're both dungeon masters.
This is what I'm saying.
And what happens when two dungeon masters merge?
They fuck.
That's just scary. Raw. Master's merge they fuck
Wait Eli are you by sure I'll try anything twice
I'll try anything to prank Kara
You guys won't believe how good I got Kara. I need an ice pack right now.
I'm gonna have to walk home from LA.
I'm not sitting on an airplane for six hours.
I don't know why it's extra funny to me that this is like it's better help slash awful.
Yeah, right.
We've got a lot of those. We
get a lot of those where it's just like awful. How you guys going with that with your food product?
Right. Like didn't want to go with gam. Okay. All right.
There are other words associated with our show.
I guess they can't go slash God, right? Nope. Or God awful.
Yeah.
It doesn't help.
Yeah.
I do like though that like if I comment on somebody, like if I'm signed in to as God
awful movies on like Patreon or whatever, and I comment on somebody's thing, if they
want to block it, it comes up and it's like, do you want to block God?
Because that's our first name.
That's hilarious.
It's God awful movies. Yeah.
I just I imagine Christians going like, I just can't do it.
Damn it. I have to give them more money.
All right. Interstitial two.
Joseph, Joseph.
Yes, Martin. What the fuck were you going to do?
Sea urchin?
Santa voice?
Santa voice came out first.
And...
Yeah!
I did like a Mr. Ed voice.
Yeah, no, that was a choice, man.
Make choices, that's what they say.
All right, here we go, that was a choice, man. Make choices.
That's what they say.
All right, here we go.
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