God Awful Movies - 526: Mindreader

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

This week, the gang is live in New Orleans, breaking down the latest offering from the Christiano brothers. Or... the one Christiano brother. Not sure if they're bickering or if this script was too we...ak to pique Dave's interest, but we're only getting half the team this time. And we learn that it's apparently possible to be half as good as a normal Christiano Brothers movie. If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/ Report instances of harassment or abuse connected to this show to the Creator Accountability Network here: https://creatoraccountabilitynetwork.org/

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Starting point is 00:00:40 I would write down something like micro-pachycephalosaurus or something. Give him a challenge, right? Make him pronounce something, at least, you know? Write down a slur, see if he says it. Come on, man. It's the 70s. You wrote down, my God.
Starting point is 00:00:59 You drew a picture. You were supposed to draw a picture. God-awful movies. Movies. Movies. Welcome to God-awful movies live from the Big Easy. We're live in Nalans, or as Eli would call it, Rock City. This is, of course, the podcast where each week we sample another selection from Christian cinema
Starting point is 00:01:39 because once in a while it affords you the chance to do a live show at the same hotel as the Church of Christ Holiness, worship, and prayer service breakfast. Which was fun. As April pointed out, it would have been a lot more fun if any of our crowd actually makes it to breakfast. You know, the breakfast downstairs would have been great, but. I am, of course, your host, No Illusions, but I'm not alone. Please put your hands together to welcome my good friend, Heath, and Wright. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Oh, fantastic. Some old friends are here. Love it. New Orleans. Am I saying it right? New Orleans, close enough. All right. Fantastic. And also joining us from stage left, please put your hands together one more time for my bad friend, Eli Bosnick. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's a lot of, a lot of side sack. can I say I was wearing clothes was the plan and then one of the guys back there he just started to give me oh don't rush this come on Charlie Kirk
Starting point is 00:03:11 fucking 2025 you don't just gently walk towards someone on a stage I've said some shit man doing my fun little bit and you're just like boop do boop
Starting point is 00:03:26 fucking I'm gonna say no Oh, before it... So, okay, okay. So, Eli... I liked how much blood there was in that video. It made me feel good.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Thank you. Okay. Let me fire for that. It looked like it hurt. Okay. I don't think it did. So any chance you could trade those beads back in for your clothes? Do you think you could bargain?
Starting point is 00:03:51 So thank you, Eli. So, there's not enough money in the world. I have to be on this stage. So, Heath. Titanium night, it's Slater, yeah. You have a weird note right here. I just wrote shenanigans in the notes, but you have something that demands an explanation.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Okay, so the very first things I saw in New Orleans on this trip. Leaving the airport, very first thing I see, billboard for ziplining, which I thought was fun. It's Eli's birthday. He would hate that. It's perfect. Then I saw a billboard
Starting point is 00:04:39 for chick filet. Okay. Naturally. But then I saw a police department. There he is. We're going to go ziplining, by the way. Police department. No fucking shot.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Do it. Okay, if the killer had done a zip, it doesn't matter. That'd be pretty funny. If you murder me and it's a bit, I'll appreciate it. I want you to know. Probably not in the moment, but no. We have a whole whiteboard about how you're not allowed to give them instructions about this, Eli. That's true.
Starting point is 00:05:18 A whole bit. So, sorry, wait, wait, there's one more thing on your list. Oh, yeah, last thing I saw, or a third thing I saw right away, too. police department parking lot. It's got four or five RVs branded with the police department and two dozen jet skis. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, please don't make a Katrina joke. Eli, please don't make a Katrina joke. No, no, no. So I'm overruling the audience on this one. Tell us he... I got a whole talking to about Katrina jokes. What will we be breaking down? Then you set me up like that.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Today. We watched Mind Reader. All right. How many people also watched it? A lot of watch? Yeah, by applause. The audience can't hear you. By applause, how many people watched it? There we go. All right, excellent.
Starting point is 00:06:15 All right. Pretty much everybody watched it. It's the story of that one Bar Mitzvah magician who actually is a psychic, and that one stripper who actually does really like you.
Starting point is 00:06:31 A stripper has to like somebody sometimes. That has to be real sometimes. And that's the Christian experience in a nutshell. I thought it was perfect that the Christian brothers did that by accident. Only one Cristiano brother. One Christiano brother. That's why
Starting point is 00:06:47 it wasn't as good. This is the dear You didn't have the genius of whatever the fuck. Yeah, other Christian. This is the dear old dad. of Christian brothers' joints. So, Eli, well, I guess you've already answered this now, but how bad was this movie?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Well, if you love the heavy-handed metaphors of Christian cinema, and if you're here, you motherfucking do. Yeah. But you wish they'd be explained to you after the movie within the same movie, you will love this movie. Okay, for the 20,
Starting point is 00:07:25 six of you in the audience who haven't watched this movie already, and for all the people listening at home who haven't watched it, just wait for the fucking ending, okay? It's going to get so much better and make so much more sense of why we're doing it. Let me help you 26 people out. Has anyone ever
Starting point is 00:07:41 written you a poem and then you didn't care so they explained the poem? There's a Christian movie version of that. The difference between the men and women who raised their hands just now. Yes. Men were like, yeah, poems.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And women were like, he did it. He did it. He's with the Lord now. That was the explanation. All right, so is anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best, to be in the worst hat? Ooh, can I go with best worst? Anti-Semitic, wide whale corduroy, apparently is a way to be anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And I was surprised. Really? Those magician guys were... Okay, no, no, you're right. Okay, you're right. Most certain. And in case it wasn't clear, we'll find out the end how clear. They actually explain later that that was. They do connect those noses for us.
Starting point is 00:08:33 So, all right, Bradley Cooper. So I was going to go with best, worst attempt to inject the word strawberry with gravitas. Oh, fuck, yeah. There is a point at this movie where one of the characters will be called upon to say gravitas with the they call me Mr. Tibbs inflection, right? And he goes for it. He fucking goes. for it.
Starting point is 00:08:56 We had that to look forward to as well. I'm going to go with best, best magician, sexual fantasy. Now, look, none of you are or were professional magicians because you can afford a ticket to this show. So I'll explain. As a magician, what you mostly do is you go up to talking people who are enjoying themselves at a perfectly nice party and you go, would you like to be entertained
Starting point is 00:09:24 like a child and they go no thank you and you go please let me or they won't pay me so when I tell you that a movie where every time a magician does a trick everyone in the room goes you're fucking real
Starting point is 00:09:39 this is some outfit stuff level fantasy playing out in front of me and I'm also viscerally aware that whichever the less talented Cristiano brother was saw a mentalism show and was like, this guy might be Jesus. There's like an 80% chance.
Starting point is 00:10:01 This guy is Jesus. All right, well, I'll tell you what. I'm almost as excited about talking about this movie as I am about making Eli talk about this movie. So we're going to keep the break brief. And when we'll come back, we'll dive in all the ham-fisted parables of Mind Reader. 22, 23, 24.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Hey, guys, what's you doing? Oh, hey, Morgan. Me and Anna are just getting in shape for the next season of D&D minus. Yeah, that's right. Gotta be in peak dice rolling shape. And you're doing that by having Eli do jumping jacks?
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Starting point is 00:11:22 slash gam. That's F-I-T-B-O-D-M-E-S-GAM. Nice. Hey, why do you guys want to be in dice rolling shape anyways? We're mostly going to be throwing them at Heath. Oh, good plan. Right? Okay, everyone, welcome to the first ever writer's room meeting for Mind Reader. Woo! So I'm thinking this one's going to be a good old-fashioned parable. It's about a wonder worker who earns the love of the people with his magic. But when the High Council is afraid of his power and influence, they're determined to take him down. Amazing. But what's the parable? Yeah, I don't get it. You guys don't get it? Yeah, there aren't any magicians in the Bible? Okay, first of all, yes, there are. Second of all, really, you can't think of a character from the Bible that this story reminds you of.
Starting point is 00:12:17 No, no. Really? Samson? The guy with the hair? Ooh, Alma? That's from the Book of Mormon. I still think it's Samson. Okay, you know what? We'll do the story, and then after the story in the movie, we'll have a story where someone explains the story, okay? Oh, that's much better.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Vishnu. Stop saying other religions. Then be more specific. And we're back. Thank you so much, New Orleans. gonna open this movie on our obligatory bible quote this is matthew 1313 where jesus says and i'm paraphrasing here i speak in parables because y'all are too dumb to understand this shit otherwise right and then we get we see a theater marquee announcing that there's a variety show starring quote the great dexter
Starting point is 00:13:10 and what theater is it it is the temple oh hint hint wink wink now listeners for a while you're going to think that this is not a Christian movie. I assure you, we will prove by the end that it is. So we're going to cut inside the theater. We're going to see, and this was traumatic for me, the end of a very bad juggling act. Right? I didn't see the rest of the juggling act,
Starting point is 00:13:33 but hey, if your grand finale is throw one ball really high, take off your hat, and catch it, you fucking suck as juggling. You're not getting more than a reverse cascade and a half shower out of this asshole. But then, once I'm done being offended, the entire rest of the movie comes out to piss off Eli. I loved it
Starting point is 00:13:53 I loved every second of it this dude walks out and I was like yep you fucking got us he's got shoulder length hair in a doll bob a powder blue suit like he's being chased out of a 1984 prom
Starting point is 00:14:08 oh dude he was he looked like somebody wearing a mean Cecil costume right somebody was going to Cecil for Halloween but hated him That's how I would dress if I wanted to die by Cecil's sword. Yes, yeah, exactly. Waiting outside for him in the morning.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Come, Cecil, put an end to it once and for all. I'm 30-f-fuh, and I'm ready for it to end. Did you hear tomorrow's the sin his birthday? People are really excited. Yeah. All right. Listeners at home, Eli's doing callbacks to the interstitial breaks now in case you're curious. They gave her a part.
Starting point is 00:14:49 birthday clap and I didn't get a birthday clap. So now it's time. No, it's too late. It's too late. I don't want your make-a-wish birthday clap. My wish is for no more birthdays.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Okay. He's going to help you out in the corner of the Yeah. He keeps sneaking closer to get a better shop. So now the guy's going to come out and he's going to do this bit. So one of you guys who's in the up front
Starting point is 00:15:20 where it's got your name on the where we put your name on the back of the chair there is there somebody that doesn't want that anymore that can give it to me and never have it again. Okay, I got one, I already got one, that's great. Okay. So the guy, he's going to do this magician bit where you throw a ball out to the audience
Starting point is 00:15:35 so you know you're getting a random person. So this is what he does. And apologies to the listeners at home because this is a visual bit. This is what he does, he goes, Yeah. It is the most ridiculous throw that I've ever seen outside.
Starting point is 00:15:48 a Christian sports movie. It's incredible. It's incredible. It seemed like he hurt himself in real life. It did. Oh, I should have stretched. Throwing a ball. Somebody described Tim Tebow throwing a football once.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I think it was described as as if somebody trying to throw a folding chair during a bowling alley fight. Yes. And that was perfect. He did that with a ball somehow. Oh, he almost missed. It was just throw the ball out into the aw. audience, and he very nearly missed. So now here's the bit. Somebody catches the ball.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He's like, now you throw it to somebody else. Now you throw it to somebody else. So we've got three random members of the audience. He gives each of them a pat of paper, and he says, write down a number. And then he just goes through and he goes like 72, 106, 31. And he's right, but that's a bad act. Terrible magic trick. Well, it actually gets work because he goes, okay, write your numbers down. Now think of them.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And it's like, well, if you were reading the minds, why did they write them down? And then he doesn't even have him show it He just goes 74 And a person in the theater You can't hear goes Ooh Got it Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:59 Also he hands out the pads And he's like This is a normal Piece of paper on a normal pad Pad I brought with me Now I think you're lying Right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah If you say this is normal Now it's not Like if a barista was like Here's your normal Coffee You jerk off Poison.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, exactly. For sure. That's poison. It's cum or poison. But also, like, I know magicians well enough to know that if you hand me a pad of paper and a pen and they say, examine the pad of paper, it's a normal pad of paper. I'm like, okay, so it's a trick pen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Right. Right. Oh, that's the new magician trick. We just tell people what they can't examine. Here I have a normal deck of cards. Don't touch my sleeves or I'll cry. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Here, I have a normal deck of cards. Examine the box they came in, yeah. But I want to point out, the reason. this happens in the movie is, as my co-hosts have pointed out, we have trick pads, secrets of magic revealed. But what happened is Dave Cristiano, the less talented Cristiano brother, was sitting there in a magic show and he was like, well, of course they have to use ordinary everyday pads. So, okay, so you weren't impressed with the number trick. Don't worry, he's going to do the exact same trick again. So he goes one by one to the people and he's like, okay, now write a
Starting point is 00:18:14 word on your paper. And people are like, wow, well, I mean, guessing, A number is pretty easy, but a word. And so now he's going to go through it, and he's going to tell everybody which word they pick. Now, we're going to see him do this trick about 31 times in the course of the movie. Every single person will pick a word that is intrinsic to their own personality, right?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Like the one word that describes that person's personality in the script. So the first lady, what was the first lady's word? I forget, the adulterist lady. Kiss. Yes, you're right, yeah. She's like, what's your word? He says, your word was kiss.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You're also the guy that you're with isn't your husband. And she's like, oh, fuck. But I say, Noah accidentally gave so much better a performance than this guy gives. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because what he does is this. He goes, your word is kiss. And everyone's like, boo, boring. Clap, clap, clap.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And then he goes, by the way, you're treating your husband. All right, your word is pumper. Like, he just fucking moves past his real psychic powers. Yeah. Right. So he goes to the next guy. He's like, your word was boy. and he's like, it was boy.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I wanted so badly for him to be like, you're dating a boy. It's 1940, it's 1974, so they beat the shit out of him and throw him out of the stream. So yeah, but he's like, your word was boy, and your wife is pregnant
Starting point is 00:19:34 and you're hoping she has a boy, aren't you? And he's like, yeah, I am. And then we go to the final woman, and he says, your word is flower. And I'm like, okay, anyone would have guessed. that that fucking woman's word was flower, right?
Starting point is 00:19:49 She's wearing a dress covered in flowers, everything about her person. She's carrying a bag with flowers all over it. Obviously, her fucking word was flower. And then he tells her, she says, well, yeah, no, I love flowers. I was going to open a flower shop. And I'm like, well, the fact that you don't know the word florist
Starting point is 00:20:03 suggests you haven't thought about it too fucking hard yet. Flower is. Flowery. Curse you magic man. You've made a fool of me once again. Just like the bank. Do you think that's why she got denied the first couple of times? They were like, so what is this for?
Starting point is 00:20:21 And she was like, I want to be a flower lady. And they were like, well, you didn't Google it. So I'm going to need you to... A flowerologist. I don't know. I don't want to bake things. So now, then we cut to these two auditors, the show's over. And we're going to meet two guys, Nicholas and Maxwell. They're walking out of the show.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Nicholas is absolutely convinced that Dexter, the great Dexter, is a psychic because of actually reading minds. Maxwell is not convinced. Maxwell will spend the entire rest of the movie going, fuck are you guys talking about this? There's no goddamn such fucking thing. It's magic fucking powers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But he's the bad guy in this because it's a Christian movie. He's the bad guy, yeah. He's Jewish. He is. That's what's happening. They've heard when he said bad guy. So, okay. So then they're leaving and they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:13 and we learn that they're like magicians. their fellow magicians, right? They're trying to figure out this act, and it's really, like, grading on them that they can't figure it out. Nicholas, who is the good guy of the two, he's like, he's like, look, I've been to this show, because the other guy's like, ah, he's just using plants, I'm sure he's using plants. And Nicholas is like, no, I've been to this show six different times. He can't possibly be using plants. What are the odds that there are 18 out-of-work actors in this same town? And then he's, then he goes, look, I've seen a lot of magic. this is the greatest magic trick I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And, like, even if the motherfucker's psychic, this isn't the greatest magic trick you've ever seen. This is a pretty shitty trick. Dumbest use of actually being psychic. Throughout, I was so mad you weren't doing anything. If you're actually psychic. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So then we cut to him, he's in the dressing room, and adultery lady comes in to confront him about outing her, about narking on her in front of her rich boyfriend. She demands to know how he knew, right? How he does his trick. And he's got an assistant. This is Caleb. The assistant stands next to him and he goes,
Starting point is 00:22:21 he's actually a mind reader up. It's the best. Caleb's my favorite character in the movie. Oh, yeah. Because he just announces the plot of the movie throughout the movie. Everyone else is participating in a fictional movie, and Caleb is staring directly into camera like he won some kind of prize. He's really psychic.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Is the plot of the movie. Yep. I'm in the movie. I'm on a boot. She says, my sidepiece left me because of what you said, I should sue you for me being married. And then she's like, I don't think you can do that. And then she storms off and she goes,
Starting point is 00:23:03 I think your act stinks. I'm like, well, you've got to admit you're at least impressed, though. I mean, come on. So, okay. So then we're going to cut to that. This was all in 1974. Eventually it comes up, there's a subtitle that comes up like midway through the fucking scene. It's really easy to miss that says this is happening in 1974.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Then we cut to the present day. There's these two guys that are arriving in a small house and they decide to stop. It's one of these things like that they do in movies where apparently these two people had no discussion whatsoever in the car leading up to this. So now they have to get out of the car and stand there and explain to each other what they're doing there. Do you think they tried to start expositing in the car like they got it and it was like, so this is the... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait until... I told you we're listening
Starting point is 00:23:46 to all of Janice's blue in the car. Don't interrupt. Okay. Here's the thing that I love about this case to the movie. This was very clearly intended to be the explanation of the heavy-handed clumsy metaphor of the movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And the less talented Cristiano brother was like, they're still not going to fucking get it. Yep. Which renders these characters completely pointless. Well, okay, so what very clearly happened is that the less talented Cristiano brother made a movie, he finished it, he looked at it, and it was 51 minutes long, and then he's like, okay, I'm going to frame it around a bunch of guys doing a flashback,
Starting point is 00:24:28 because the flashback stuff never fucking matters to the rest of the movie, right? It doesn't resolve anything that's left unresolved within the movie. And then he did that, he framed it around all these flashbacks, and he's like, okay, now it's 62 minutes long, fuck, I'm going to add an ending where I painstakingly explain every goddamn, damn thing that happened. That only got him to an hour and 20. Yeah. Right? Even with all this shit.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Shows up to Dave's room. Hey, buddy. You remember how I said, like, I don't need you and I can make all my movies. Now it's just kind of... I don't have any B footage. I'm not giving you anything. It's just, like, just me and Thomas and Tom kind of talking now. Could you mind if you just
Starting point is 00:25:08 write some bumpers? So, of course, both Heath and I had to have a note about the fact that the guys that are about to go. So they're going to go in and interview Caleb, the guy who used to be the assistant to Dexter. And they're bringing a Zoom recorder, which is the exact kind of recorder that we have, the H4N. I'd pick it up and show you, but I'm using it to record shit right now. It's kind of important. But yeah, so that was kind of cool. But they don't know how it's used because he keeps holding it like a news microphone.
Starting point is 00:25:36 So for those, there's spatial microphones, and you put in the center room and catches all the noise. but he keeps pointing it at the guy but they're conversational distance away so he keeps being like dude at one point at one point when they walk in he sets it upright yeah which is fucking nuts because A the microphone is not pointed towards the fucking ceiling
Starting point is 00:25:57 right and B anybody fucking sneezes and the goddamn thing is going to fall over actually some of the greatest journalists point their microphone the wrong direction for the first 40 or 60 episodes of their Pine Canada.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So, okay, so they go into this guy's house. They're going in to see Caleb and they explain, hey, you know, we want your story of what, the Dexter died, I guess, and now they want to do their association, which is the association of magicians, I guess, they couldn't get the rights to whatever the actual group is.
Starting point is 00:26:34 There's a real one, right? There's like a governing body of all magic. I'm in it. Are you Are you fucking serious right now? I leave our job to go to their convention every year. You're in a professional organization.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Psychic entertainers association, I'm a member with Silver Star, baby. And can I say to whoever Cristiano's credit, they have captured the whiteness and grossness of our cohort. I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:07 I'm going to call Archie and tell him that they're making fun of him in this Christian movie. So you're getting out of us. You get out of me. So, okay. So they go in there, they're like, we want to give Dexter this posthumous honor. It is the highest honor any entertainer can receive. Big deal. Kind of like the People's Choice Podcasts Award of 2015.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yes, exactly. Exactly. I'm sorry. If it is the highest award that an entertainer can receive, they're not giving it to a fucking magician. I'm sorry. Maybe that's just the juggler and me coming out. But, okay. So, but we learned that this guy, Tom,
Starting point is 00:27:41 is the guy with the H4N, Zoom recorder. He says, I'm writing an article about Dexter. I will write whatever you say. Well, that's a power you should never give any fucking body, right? Imagine if he said that to Eli. Dexter fucked kids. Got him. So he's like...
Starting point is 00:27:59 13 hours, $13 an hour, my ass. He says, okay, so what we'd like for you to do is just sort of walk us through Dexter. story in a series, like a movie-length series of flashbacks. And then he says, but don't worry, this information won't be available to the public. It'll only be in our museum. Is it a secret museum? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I don't know. Do you have a secret museum of psychic museum? Well, there you go. No, I guess that makes friends. I looked at their notes and I was like, oh, man, I hope they don't ask me if we have a secret museum. We have multiple secret museums. Y'all, live in my world for a moment. David Copperfield owns a museum that you have to know somebody to get into.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Then there's a guy who has an underground museum in the middle of Virginia. And then we have a secret mentalist's only museum down in South Carolina. So, we don't have secret museum. We have secret museums. So, sorry. I just want to be clear. Somebody goes to the one in South Carolina. They do card magic.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Get the fuck out. Get out. You're not a mentalist. You're not allowed in. All right, so they said, so we're... They're the worst. It's truly, it's truly the worst. There are not a lot of people that atheist podcasters can squarely look down on, but I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Magicians are right there making the balloon animals to make it happen. We're really, we're in it to win it. So, okay. So they say, they turn to Caleb and they're like, let's start the doodily-dos out by asking you, what is your most cherished doodily-do about Dexter? and he goes he says what's your most cherished memory about texture and the answer that the character gives he says that he was a good man
Starting point is 00:29:43 it's not a fucking memory the fuck are you talking about I wrote a secret museum here give us some fucking dirt I wrote in my notes meet this is why you gotta prep the people in your life before you die okay
Starting point is 00:29:59 it's okay so we doodily do back to the break room at the factory where and Dexter both work together. Oh, okay. He's, Dexter is supposed to be an actual psychic. A mind reader, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:15 A mind reader. Why are you working in a factory if you're a mind? You wouldn't? Yeah. So, because he wants to remain humble. So two characters we have. I don't think he does, though.
Starting point is 00:30:25 No, no, he becomes a goddamn mentalist. So, yeah, probably not. They don't write the lottery numbers down on pads first. Yeah, right. So, okay. Do you think there's a prequel? where Dexter's just trying to figure out how to make his pad-based powers profitable
Starting point is 00:30:40 outside of variety entertainment where he's just like, okay, write down your pin number on a pan... Where are you going? Fuck! I am cursed by God! If I cut my flowing locks, my powers go away. And because I'm psychic,
Starting point is 00:30:58 I know what everyone thinks about my hair. A fate worse than death indeed. Yeah. So, okay, so we're at this break room in this factory, and there's two guys playing poker, and neither of them are the characters that we know. And one is losing to the other who's being a real asshole about it, right? Importantly, though, he didn't make the other guy play poker against him. The guy agreed to play poker against him and just lost, right?
Starting point is 00:31:26 So that's where we're at. And the guy who lost, he turns to everybody afterwards, he goes, I can't afford to lose that money, or I won't be able to feed my children. And we're supposed to feel sorry for the guy. I was like, okay, man, hey, I have an idea. No, me? Yes. Oh, me, what have you done to me?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yes. The meme of sticking the stick in your bicycle tire, yeah. Why would they let you play a game where you lose? Right. But then, so the guy turns to Dexter, he goes, Dexter, help! And Dexter goes, oh, I'd sit down and play poker myself, but it wouldn't be fair. Well, except for maybe making a point during a flashback.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Shut up the cards. But then they don't play poker. No, they don't. Why the fuck wouldn't you just have him play poker? Well, because then he can do the eighth lamest magic trick that anyone has ever done. Oh, my God. He literally does pick a card and a card.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And it's worse than pick a card any card, right? Because here's what he does. Here's pick a card in a card. Pick a card. You chose the four of diamonds. Hooray. That's a bad. Here's what he does.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Pick the top. You shuffle. We watch him layman shuffle. So he's like, I can't do it the way my grandma did. And then he goes,
Starting point is 00:32:46 take the top card of the deck, which literally non-magicians know you have to cut the cards because everyone could see that fucking one. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:54 He pushes it forward. He goes, you guess what it is? He's like, no, you're the psychic in the movie. He's like, shut up.
Starting point is 00:32:59 What card do you think it is? He's like, queen and diamonds he's like, wrong. And he's like, this is terrible so far. He's like, no. Because I'm, now going to tell you
Starting point is 00:33:08 what it was. Yep. And then he does. He's like four of clubs, and the guy's like, oh, my fucking God, I've never seen everything like this in my whole fucking life. He's a demon stab him in the heart. And again, I cannot tell you what a sexual fantasy this was for me.
Starting point is 00:33:26 All right? My friends, I memorized multiple decks of cards when I was a professional magician and was met with bored, yon. from everyone around me. The idea that someone would be like, he knew what was on top.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I clipped this movie. You go on XNXX.com, you're going to find a lot of clips of Mind Reader and just one account favoriting them. Don Ford, Voice of Fantasy and Adventure. It's my name on all the porn accounts. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That makes sense. So now he's won back the guy's $65 that he needed to pay his children or feed his children. What is it you do with kids again? I forget. I don't have any of those. No, that's Don Ford Voice of Fantasy. So, yeah, but he gives him the $65,
Starting point is 00:34:26 but only if he promises never to gamble again. And then we back out of the doodley-do long enough to tell us that then Caleb, having witnessed this amazing, guess my card trick helped Dexter put together his stage show. So then we go back to the doodily do
Starting point is 00:34:42 where Nicholas and Maxwell have now gone to their boss, their magician, historian, boss. Secret museum curator. Right, yes, exactly. That's Robert. The Pharisees.
Starting point is 00:34:56 These are the Pharisees. Yes, yes. This is the anti-Semitism squad. Exactly, exactly. And Nicholas is Nicodemus. I'm getting ahead of myself. Wow. Wait, is there a parable?
Starting point is 00:35:06 You believe it or not, yeah. Try to follow along, 26 people. I think you might crack this one. But they're like genuinely in a lair. Like, whichever Christiano it is, I don't fucking care. He's pretty sure there's like an evil volcano layer for skeptical magicians. You don't think that there's actually an evil. Is there of any, do you have an evil?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Of course there is. They had a convention. It was called The Amazing Meeting. It was a whole thing. You know what I don't have you going to... Spinny bookshelf. Brandy sniffers, the whole thing. Fuck Dungeon.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Don Ford. You're just describing Penn's house right now. Okay, so... But basically these three guys who are supposed to be historians of magic are basically sitting around having the... But what if David Blaine can levitate conversation, right?
Starting point is 00:35:55 Now, I want to be super clear that the trick that he does where, like, you write down something on a pad of paper and then the magician knows what it is, like, that's a trick. like this is a real trick like that is a doable trick they could have in their movie
Starting point is 00:36:08 had the psychic do something that a magician couldn't actually do and they didn't when we're talking about the least talented Christiano brother that's how talentless we're talking also not to ruin the like enclave of magicians
Starting point is 00:36:22 but we have never wondered how tricks are done we're like what do you think he's getting paid for that do you think he do you think they're letting him eat beforehand Do you guys want to...
Starting point is 00:36:35 Let's go down to the dungeon. Do you guys, they don't have Uber pool in this city, but if we both call the Uber at the same time, we can be like, oh, it was a mistake, and then he has to let me ride in the trunk. Does they make it? I got Jimmy's 6th birthday this year. I'm pretty proud, pretty excited.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I actually have a zero rating on Uber. I can't use my car to do it. So, okay, so then they're like, no, come on. He's obviously using plants because apparently the Christianian brothers can't think of any. other way this trick could possibly be done. They're obviously using plants, but then Nicholas,
Starting point is 00:37:06 he says, well, you know, I didn't want to tell you guys about this for reasons that will never be clear at all. But I was actually an audience volunteer. I caught the ball one time, which is not as sexy as it sounds. So now we're going to doodily-do
Starting point is 00:37:23 in the doodily-do back to when he was a volunteer. Right? We didn't swish it. We're fine. We haven't swished it yet. Keeping it safe. But then, so I guess he's got to write down his word, right? And he's boring as fuck with his word. What was his word?
Starting point is 00:37:41 I forget his word, too. Was it father, dad? Wonder. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was wonder. I would write down something like micropacephalosaurus or something. Give him a challenge, right? Make him pronounce something, at least, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Write down a slur, see if he says it. Come on, man. It's the 70s. You wrote down, my God. You drew a picture. You were supposed to draw a picture. So, but also... Strawberry?
Starting point is 00:38:15 But then, the big deal thing that he does, right? So he's like, the guy's trying to convince these other magicians that he's the real deal. And he says, but after he guessed my word was wonder, he turned to me and he said, you should call your dad. He'd love to hear from you. And he's like, you know, I haven't talked to my dad. how the hell could he have possibly known, right? Now, okay, so last weekend,
Starting point is 00:38:36 I gave a talk about cold reading, about doing tarot readings and stuff, and the go-to example I used for the easiest possible prediction to make for a person is you have daddy issues. Right? That is the biggest possible potential hit you can ever get
Starting point is 00:38:49 when you're predicting shit from people. And in this stupid fucking movie, that's the one that has all the professional magicians going, well, fuck, how could he possibly have known that you don't call your adult dad? As an adult, you don't call your dad as often as your dad would life. It was even less.
Starting point is 00:39:01 It wasn't, like, daddy issues necessarily. It was like, I predict cold reading-wise, that you have a dad. That's all that was predicted. Who owns a phone? And he's like, how would he know that? How would he know that? Just by a round of applause, who in this room has daddy issues? Fun fact, everyone who didn't clap.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Those are some enthusiastic daddy issues you have. Let me say. I do. The real daddy issues with their soul. So, okay, but he said, there's also this great moment where he goes, that Nicholas says to the other two, he goes, you know, you two are the greatest historians of magic ever known in case you forgot who you are during this conversation that we're having.
Starting point is 00:39:46 You know how every trick that's ever been done has been done, except this one. Yes, which, to be clear, would be like saying, you guys are fantastic musicians. You know how to play every song that has ever been written. All right, so then we cut to fucking flower lady at the office. Now, over and over again in this movie, we'll go to people who caught the ball, right?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Who wrote down words for him to show us just how right his predictions turned out to be, right? So we have flower lady at the office, and she's talking to her friend about how, you know, she really wants to start a flower shop, but the psychic told her she should try one more time. What could that possibly mean? And can I say, again, just this is the,
Starting point is 00:40:31 sexual fantasy that anyone sees a magic show and doesn't go, and there was a magician. Like a full grown... No, he was an adult. It was not a child. It was an adult, and he was like, I'm a magician. And then he needed a ride home.
Starting point is 00:40:51 The amount of times I've sat in the back of a grown-up's car being like, thanks for the ride to the train station for the man of mystery and wonder. I hope you had fun as I plumbed your deepest secrets. Do you mind going to the awning? It's raining. Thanks, I'm going to eat a cliff bar and seven unquestibles while I wait an hour and a half for the Long Island Twinslet.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Did you have those in your pocket? Oh, my own choices. He had them up his sleeve, yeah. So, okay. My bud died. But she's like, I think what he meant is I've tried to get a loan for my flower store. several times, and I think he meant that I should try one more time to get the loan. Okay, even if you thought that's a real psychic mind reader, supernatural human,
Starting point is 00:41:42 why would you think they would be giving good advice about like your small business decision? Right, yeah, right. He doesn't know the future. Yeah. Right, or we haven't established that he does, yeah. And I, again, as someone who knows a lot of magicians, you do not want to take business advice for that. Yeah, you're a fucking magician, yeah. All right, so...
Starting point is 00:42:01 How's your Bitcoin doing? Is it good? Oh, man, why you got to bring things down? That wasn't me. That was my friend who sold it because Karen Tom told him to. Okay, this is... That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:12 That's a real story, but we genuinely have to move on from it. But, okay, so as we're talking about what great business decisions, magicians make... So then, okay, now we go back to the theater and a woman shows up and she says, I would like to work for you backstage in the Secretist Department.
Starting point is 00:42:27 For free, I don't need money. For free. Volunteer to do that. It'll be for free. For free, I will work for free. I'm not a spy. You're a spy. You're spying on yourself, I bet.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Now, don't get me wrong. I do know a lot of magicians who would fall for this. Every magician you know if you walked up and you were like, hey, I just want to learn from you because I'm so impressed. They'd be like, I knew someone would say this to me someday.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Okay, but this character's name, guys, is Judy. Judy. Oh, okay. We'll get there. We'll get there. So, okay. But he's like, you know, well, we really don't need any help, but, um, fucking juggler is shit. You want to help the, uh, maybe help him out or something?
Starting point is 00:43:10 And she's like, yeah, whatever gets me back there in your backstage area is fine. Yeah. So she can start tomorrow. So then we check in with the guy whose word was boy, the guy whose wife was pregnant from the audience earlier. And he just has a conversation with his wife about how he's pretty sure that mind reader was right. And she's going to have a boy.
Starting point is 00:43:29 there's a moment where this movie tries to like tackle the inherent sexism in this the less talented christiano brother decides to tackle the sexism because he says how's my little ball player doing and the wife goes well your ball player or cheerleader is doing fine now it's less sexist guys okay here's the thing though i'm pretty sure you're finally going to stop failing as a woman and birth be a son because a magic guy told me while i was out at a magic show by myself while you're pregnant with our other two children at home. And he's got two fucking daughters.
Starting point is 00:44:03 What a dick! What a fucking pregnant. Sometimes you just need to take yourself to the magic show. Little treat for daddy. He's got rickets again. Fuck, I'll be at the magic show. Tell me what number
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm thinking of, wizard. Carry me away on a blanket of wondering lives. All right, well, right now, while you still think that pregnant ladies' husband and flower lady are going to factor into the movie in some way, before we disabuse you of that, believe, we're going to take ourselves another quick break. But we're back in a minute with even more Mind Reader. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:45:55 And thanks for all the tissues, therapists Oh yeah, thanks for the tissues Now, if each of you will think of a word, excellent You, sir, is your word bathroom? It is Indeed, I regret to inform you You have bladder cancer
Starting point is 00:46:15 Now, madam, your word is a tricky one Wait, what? Tell me, do you play tennis? I do. Sorry, did you say I have bladder cancer? Well, then that would explain why the word you wrote down is love. I did write that down. Sorry, just real quick, can we go back to the bladder cancer thing?
Starting point is 00:46:36 And finally, sir, you're thinking of a name, are you not? My God, I am. And that name is Craig. How did you know? You know what? I'm going to come back tomorrow. I'll come back and ask tomorrow. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And we're going to, I love when the audience at home gets the me cutting off of a joke from Heath or Eli right at the very beginning of those. So we're going to rejoin Dexter at the theater doing his same boring fucking trick again. This lady's word is locket because she lost a locket is her personality. So she says locket and then he says to her, he turns to her, he says, don't worry, you'll worry. find it and she goes and then he turns to this other lady this is patty yeah patty get him
Starting point is 00:47:32 so he gets this lady patty so he goes he turns to patty and he goes you're not thinking of a fucking word at all are you patty you're trying to fuck with me aren't you and patty's like oh i am trying to fuck with him she's like you he's like because you wrote down exo xo didn't you and she's like very sheepishly admits that is what she wrote down Yeah, and again, this is every magician's fantasy
Starting point is 00:47:55 that the person who fucks with a magician, like the whole crowd turns on them. Yes. Tears her limb from limb. So, and then, okay, and then meanwhile, the association, the Nicholas and Maxwell and Robert, are sitting there having the same scene that they had last time, right? Where Nicholas opens it up going,
Starting point is 00:48:14 well, you've got to admit that last scene was pretty damn impressive, right, with the XO, XO, XO, and everything. And then they're like, well, what we need to do is get dexter to join us in the Magicians Association, right? If he does that, then we can, like, kind of take credit for his shit. And then Maxwell goes, yes, yes, we could draw him in and then expose his trick. And I'm like, you're a fucking magician.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Why the fuck would you do that? What did he even mean by expose him isn't clear? Exposed that he's actually a psychic. Or exposed that he's doing a magic trick to other magicians whose job it is to do magic tricks? Yeah. I don't understand. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Meanwhile, locket lady is in the office talking with a different lady about how she was at the magic show and the guy told her she'd find her locket. Think about this movie that includes this fucking scene wasn't long enough to make feature length so they had to add all this framing bullshit, right? This movie that follows random fucking locket lady to work to go, like, no, no, she lost a locket though. He was legit. He was right. She turns to her friend at this point and she goes, he said, don't worry, you'll find it. What do you think that means? And I wrote in my notes.
Starting point is 00:49:24 What else could it mean? The clitoris. Are you... Diane? This is why everyone in the office fucking hates you. So, hey, we knew it was your birthday over the summer. We skipped it on purpose. So meanwhile, Judith, I mean, Judy is introducing Dexter and Caleb to Robert Maxwell and Nicholas,
Starting point is 00:49:50 the evil association guys. And so, you know, because they want to get in and like invite him to be part of their association, but also, you know, get into his theater and see if they can figure out how he's doing his fucking trick. So they're like, you know, your act is pretty impressive and he is a variety show
Starting point is 00:50:06 so he tries to throw the juggler of bone. He's like, oh, well, you know, all of our performances are very good. And they're like, no, I'm not the fucking juggler. We saw his finale. He's fucking suck. He's a juggler. He'd say that. This is why Heath has to sit in the fucking middle, right? So I'll beat you with a fucking pin.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I have clubs, torches, chainsaws, I got a bowling ball. What do you got? Magician, you got a saw me in half? Multiple pants. Words that people can think of. Real psychic powers I barely use. And Maxwell is like, the first person and only person in this movie that acknowledges that his act is.
Starting point is 00:50:50 boring as shit, right? He goes, so your act is, um, this is just the same fucking trick twice and you just do it over and over again, huh? And he goes, yeah, people like it though when I do it over and over again. And they're like, well, what we'd like you to do is come to our, so our magicians association has a monthly mixer and we'd love it if you could attend. And I'm like, wow, a room full of fucking magicians trying to, who, no. I would rather swallow my own fucking tongue. As someone who's given that invitation, you hear that a lot, I won't tell you.
Starting point is 00:51:26 According to the standard. It's a box you can check as I'd rather swallow my tongue than go to the magician. So there's a, and then they go to leave. And of course, Dexter has to do his one more thing bit. They turn back around and he says, Nicholas, you still haven't called your dad. So, okay. So now we're at the association dinner. they're
Starting point is 00:51:51 sorry we're back at their office their mahogany office and they're commiserating about how badly they botched their spy mission they're like Maxwell's going we should let us go backstage so he could see the fucking trap doors and shit may stand out front
Starting point is 00:52:03 like a backstage psychic machine I don't know what they thought was going to be some sort of physical rain foil hat with a big coat on it I knew it but Nicholas is like guys he's obviously a real psychic he's a real wizard and I'm like if he was why wouldn't he
Starting point is 00:52:20 let you guys backstage. Just a pile of Hugh Jackmans on the floor. Like, I don't know what they... What are you looking for? Those aren't for the act. Those are for sex. Could be both. That's how I keep the perfect Bob.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Hugh Jackman come. Ask Anthony from Queer Eye. Meanwhile... Thank you for those. Meanwhile, we've got Maxwell. in the office like you got to imagine like Eli right going like the guy's not a fucking psychic which is by the way you have to tell
Starting point is 00:52:56 magicians that all the time I'm sure and then so oh sorry so they're in this diner at this point and this guy comes up and they're like oh it's Howard Howard apparently is the wealthiest and most influential magic philanthropist in the world
Starting point is 00:53:12 because they're like oh my god if he's more impressed with Dexter than us we'll lose his donations right so that That's their motivation for taking Dexter town of that. Is there a magnate of... This is absolutely what happened. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Occasionally you have a grown-up who's stupid enough to like magic. And that grown-up pays for magic every year. And we all take turns having that grown-up pay us to new men. I have been like, I got Howard this year. This movie's a documentary, is what I'm saying. It's a documentary towards the darker parts of my life. Sure. and so meanwhile outside the doodily do they summarized the last scene
Starting point is 00:53:53 and the main association guy he says you know well you know dexter and this is going to be a big part of the movie from this point on he's like well you know dexter never claimed that he had psychic powers now we haven't mentioned this at the end up to this point but the end of his act is him going remember i don't do magic i just read minds that's his fucking tagline yes he does say that he's Caleb, you stood next to him and was like, he is a real mind reader.
Starting point is 00:54:20 It doesn't matter whether or not he says it or you say it. Yeah, right. If your hype man says it at your behest for a living, you say it. I'm just picturing Uri Geller on the set of the late show, just being like, Hello! He has real psychic powers. Don't get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Let me touch the spoons. Please, let me touch this boon. This will be my number one YouTube result for so long. Let me touch this boos. I'll bend them where you're not looking. So, in case it's not clear audience, Eli was doing a hand puppet the whole time. The audience listening at home.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And the flawless Uri Gallery. Yeah, well, no, that was. Yeah, it was. So now, so okay, so now we have a scene, and like, normally I wouldn't even talk about this scene, but this movie is so boring and pointless and stupid, there are no scenes that I can leave out of it. Because then what would we fucking talk about, right? Oh, well, this scene is useless, yeah, well, so okay, but there's a scene where Judy is telling Caleb stage manager stuff that doesn't factor into the movie in any way.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Like, it's like they're trying to set up a love interest between these two characters, but they'll never speak again. Mm-hmm. So, again, I guess we're just a pad and runtime. Meanwhile, we give Nicholas, we got Nicholas, he does a pump fake on calling his dad. He almost enacts the inciting incident of the movie that will never matter. Yes, right. Now, this is the 1970s. He calls the operator and asks for England.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Okay. I, as the cherub-faced youngen of our podcast, who's only 30 years old, I believe we had phone numbers in the year. We did in 1974. I believe they already had those. You didn't have to call Mildred down at the switching post. I believe England was still, they all had the one phone that they would take.
Starting point is 00:56:23 No, so I will say that, I don't know about 1974, that's before my time, but as late as like the early 90s making an international call was still, you know, you had to like slay a dragon and present its tooth to Mildred and all that shit, yeah. Mildred, get me England. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:41 The part where my dad is. You know. So, my dad. So, yeah, so, but while Mildred is getting England on the line, he says, no, I'm sorry, I don't know what I was thinking, it's still act too. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I can't do it. So he hangs up. And then we cut to Earth's worst party.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Okay, this is the magnate guy, right? The philanthropist, the guy you all before. Howard is, yeah, uh-huh. Bruce Wayne or whatever. He's got a mansion. He's hosting like a wizarding gala for everybody. You've been to these, aren't? Yeah, you're nodding like you've been to a bunch of these.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah, 100%. That's how you got. Yeah, I wrote my notes. This is upsettingly accurate, except everyone is way too nicely dressed. And no one's talking about losing their kids in a divorce. Okay. So apparently there's like a mentalism industrial complex or something.
Starting point is 00:57:34 It's like serious. When was the first woman in all of magic? It was sometime after... 1974, clearly, yeah. Yeah, but way after 1940. Way after our friend Rachel. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Fair. So, yeah, so, but as Dexter shows up at this party, right, of all the magicians, and Howard comes up to him, and says, you know, I find your trick to be the most impressive of all the magic tricks, I would pay handsomely to know how it was done. And as he's doing this, Maxwell, the, you know, chief instigator, the chief anti-Dexter guy down at the association comes by and starts talking a little magician shit. No, I want to point out that Maxwell in this movie wears a sports coat over a turtleneck because he's supposed to be a douchebag character.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Or a magician. Well, no, no, no. But that's... Six and one. So, but he's supposed to be this douchebag character, except Dexter, who's not supposed to be a douchebag character, is wearing a turtleneck with a sports coat and a vest. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Like, he out-dush-o-o-dush-bill. Right, you have to pop a collar to be more of a ducy-stress. bag than that, right? But, but Maxwell challenges Dexter to do his trick. He's like, well, if you don't use plants, I guess you could do your trick right now, couldn't you? So the gauntlet is thrown down. But Dexter says no at first, right? At first, yes. Right. And then Maxwell's like, attention everyone, this guy uses plants and it's all magicians at it. They're like, yeah, we all, I use plants. Like a lot of us use plants at Max. Max, have you not been using plants?
Starting point is 00:59:16 They're great. You know magic's really silly and stupid, right? Max, you want me to be your plant? You just throw the ball to your plant. That's nothing. Then they throw it to another one. Playing catch. It's a game already, Max.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It's great. Proves nothing to nobody. Okay, but Dexter finally does take the challenge. Yes, yeah, right. He goes, finally he's like, get my pads. Okay, that was one of my, I laughed so like,
Starting point is 00:59:49 because that's like, that's like for magicians like, let's take this outside. Yes. It was like, get me two normal pads of paper. Here we go, over the top. Let's do this. He turns his shitty bob haircut around. He's just in front of his face.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Here's my other question. Did he prearrange that with Caleb, because Caleb was ready. So when they were walking into the party, was he like, Caleb, in case someone challenges the authenticity of my psychic powers, I may ask you to fetch my props, like some kind of
Starting point is 01:00:25 19-20s problematic relationship. I have them ready? Okay, you just have them ready. It's just the pads, right? Do you mind wearing a fez? I will have a fess. Here, hold this lantern in case we need to. So. You had it upside down. It spilled a lot of oil on me. Ow, from earlier.
Starting point is 01:00:47 It's okay, it's the 70. So, okay. So they set up to do the exact same fucking trick, right? And he's like, I'll use you, Maxwell, as my audience volunteer. You write down a word. So Maxwell writes down a word, very flourishing. And then he says, now think of the word. And he thinks of it, and Dexter writes down his prediction,
Starting point is 01:01:10 which isn't part of the trick. But for purposes of this stupid reveal, has to be, right? So he writes it down and then he says, so what was your word, Maxwell? And this is where Maxwell turns around his word and it was strawberry. And
Starting point is 01:01:24 Dexter goes, you wrote down one word and thought of another. That doesn't fucking count. No fair. And this is where he does my best worst, where he goes, my word was strawberry.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And I also have to point out that they do the yes you did know you back an insane amount It's like six back and forth It's genuinely like a full solid 60 seconds Where he's like, you didn't think of it Yes I did
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yes I did stop it I was thinking of it I love strawberry what It's nuts And also a position that every magician Has been in You're also going to be Jewish in this metaphor later
Starting point is 01:02:11 Just so you know I'm like the king of people So, okay, so Dexter storms out. He goes, you've thought of the wrong word. You're cheating. And he storms out. And then Nicholas runs up to Maxwell. He's like, why did you think of the wrong words?
Starting point is 01:02:25 You're such a bad person. And he goes, didn't I totally was thinking of strawberry. It was my word the whole time. But then, after he walked out, they turned Dexter's fat over. And it says strawberry on it. Okay. So at this point, thank you, Chuggester, in the front row. What the fuck actually happened?
Starting point is 01:02:43 Great. He has real psychic powers. He actually guessed the word. He has a panic attack about him not thinking of the word, but he wrote down the right word or he changed the word to think that... What was Dexter's playing?
Starting point is 01:02:56 I don't know. I think Dexter just wanted to leave this terrible party of magicians. And he found a way to storm out that made no sense. But he was like, grab the lantern, we're out of here. Yeah, he didn't know about my trick,
Starting point is 01:03:11 which is, excuse me, I still have custody of my kids. kids, so I've got to go. That'll get you out of any magician gathering pretty quick. So, okay. So now Maxwell's back at the association office apologizing to Robert for fucking the last scene up so bad. And he's like, well
Starting point is 01:03:25 in my offense, like everybody kept talking about how Dexter was awesome and nobody was talking about how I was awesome and I am awesome, so it's got a bullshit. And this is where they bring up again, and they've talked about this throughout. They say that like if Dexter has real psychic powers, it would be terrible for mentalists.
Starting point is 01:03:41 But that isn't true. No. Wait, lots of Americans think psychic powers are real. Yes, the majority. That's usually why they hire magicians who pretend to be psychic.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Right, so that they can go, but do you think you really have powers? Yes. Yeah. Getting one right would be awesome. It's pretty awesome. Because you just get to be a magician and go, I'm like duck eyes.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yes. You know how there's one of us that's real? Now there's two. Take my business card. I printed it at Staples. There is a great moment here where Maxwell says, he's doing something. And I'm like, yeah, no, we can all agree on that.
Starting point is 01:04:25 And then they say that they have to find a way to stop him. He's becoming a problem for the association because real psychics would fuck up fake psychics. So they have to find a way to stop him. Pin in that, it's as crazy as you think. Do you guys think we should, like, persecute him or something? I think we should persecute him. Maybe we nail him to something.
Starting point is 01:04:48 We could nail him to something. So, okay. So, meanwhile, Judy is stage managing. There's this great moment where, like, the writer needed to think of a thing that they might be talking about, you know, just something that the magician and stage manager might discuss before the show begins, but they can't because they're fucking idiots.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And so he goes, I was thinking about maybe changing the show up a bit, I could throw the ball further back, so that it would be more random. More random? What if instead of having people think of a number from one to a hundred, I hadn't think of a number between
Starting point is 01:05:20 100 and a thousand. 200. I have real psychic powers. But then he's like, let me show you what I mean by throw further. I've forgotten my magical hacky sacky sec. Judy, can you go back into the secret section? Also, I severely injured myself last time.
Starting point is 01:05:40 something. Yes. So she goes back to get his magical hacky's like, but she sees a crumbled up piece of paper. Yeah, might have some secrets. But before we can talk about that, we have to check back in
Starting point is 01:05:54 with Locket Lady. I'm sure you guys were worried about locket lady. She found her locket. Yeah. She found her locket. It was in her jewelry box, so his magic trick is that women don't actually look the first place you told them to look.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Look how still the married men in the audience are right now. I don't know what he's talking about. That joke doesn't make any sense. You're really good at looking for stuff you lost. And then, so we're gonna wrap up a bunch of these, right? Because we check in on her, she finds the locket. We actually have her find the locket and then go to work
Starting point is 01:06:29 and tell her friend, I found the locket. We know. We just saw another fucking scene. You thought we were going to think that was a different locket that you were picking up in this scene? Jesus fucking Christ Then we check in on flower lady Right
Starting point is 01:06:42 She's sketching a sign for her flower shop Still hasn't learned the word florist And then we check in on boy guy Who is at a party with blue balloons Yeah right So it's all coming together So then we check back in with Julie I want an agenda reveal to start a fire for that guy
Starting point is 01:07:03 I hate that guy He stopped So then we cut to Judy who gasped, turns out that she was a spy for the association the whole time and the movie thinks we're going to be shocked. Yeah, right, right, you're so disappointed. And so she brings the crumbled-up piece of paper
Starting point is 01:07:20 and she's like, look, he has a bunch of equations on this piece of paper, so he's probably cheating. He's probably using math to guess what their numbers are. We see this thing for a second. It's calculus. Yes. So the movie's being like this. is how he does it.
Starting point is 01:07:39 He finds the area under the curve using the integral. Think to figure, to be psychic. Think of the nut. Look, eventually the average number people is going to guess is 50, so I just say 50 every time.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I'm figuring it up. One to 100. You're eventually going to, you have to, everyone says 50. Think about how. The average would be 50.5. It's fine. It's fine. Think about Nah, because nobody ever guesses one through night. Think about, though, how stupid your understanding of math
Starting point is 01:08:12 would have to be to assume that somewhere out there there is an equation that would solve for guess a number. Yeah. Right? You'd have to be the less talented Cristiano, brother. Yes, exactly. So, okay. So now we got to Nicholas.
Starting point is 01:08:27 He's still trying to call his dad. But this time, he gets through. He goes all the way through it. And look, I got to admit, even I at this point thought that the conversation with the dad would have any meaning whatsoever. My friends, I kid you not,
Starting point is 01:08:42 it is 14 seconds of the most boring small talk you have ever heard. He's like, hello, dad. It's different time here than it is there. Yeah. How are you? I'm right. I too am all right.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Click. Yes, that's the thing. This stupid fucking movie could not have been bothered to come up with a conflict for them to resolve here. They're just like, yeah, so, uh, been a minute. Bye. That's the, like, we've, we've had like four scenes to set this up, right? At least give us a, like, I still think about what her body looked like that night.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yes, right, yeah, something, yeah, yeah. Something with Errol Musk, no, nothing. All right, well, this movie's getting ahead of me and resolve an act three shit, so we're overdue for a break. But first, let me give Act 3 and the stunningly bizarre fourth act, the hard sell. Will this movie follow us out of the theater?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Will this movie painstakingly spell out its already transparent analogies at length? Will this movie make you regret ever wondering for a fucking second if it belonged on God-awful movies? Find out the answers to these. questions and more. We return for the exciting conclusions of Mind Reader. Dexter, that was incredible. Honestly, Caleb, it was nothing. You can't tell me that was
Starting point is 01:10:22 nothing. You have real psychic powers. Yeah. I never said that. You know what you have to do, don't you? What? You have to join a multi-show act. Wait. What? What? Yeah, people are going to love this. Oh, I thought we would use the superpowers to, like, save lives and stuff. Oh, I was just thinking we'd use it for, like, a magic show. What? Magic, you say. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Guys, guys, if Dexter has psychic powers, we should be using it for the greater good. He could be finding missing people or solving crimes, preventing future terrorist attacks. Yeah, I guess so. Or I could guess the number someone thought of. Now, that's what I'm talking about. Okay. And we're back. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And we're going to rejoin the action back at the Association's Mahogany Office where Maxwell and Robert are plotting. They're leaving Nick out at this point, right? They know Nicholas is not on their side anymore. He's a turncoat. But they're setting up some kind of a sting operation now on Dexter? Has the association ever done a sting operation? We have actually done quite a few things on B'Belianz.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah, they have to pretend to be psychic, yeah, I guess so, yeah, yeah. So, and elsewhere, Cindy, the flower lady, is she's getting some mail from the bank, which she's having sent to her at work. They send you your loan acceptance, like a college acceptance letter. We want to thank you for applying to HSBC Bank. Yeah, and so, but she's like, I can't read it. I need my friend to read it for me. So she tossed her friend into reading it for her.
Starting point is 01:12:04 But her friend still, like, does a huge dramatic pause before the word approved. Seems like a bit of a dick move. But they do say approved. So she's going to be a flowerist after all. This is a stupid bank, right? Like, the bank needs a mentalist on stack. But really, yeah. Dexter, how's this going to go?
Starting point is 01:12:30 Writes down on a pad, bankruptcy. Yeah, right, right. And, of course, at the end of the scene, she turns to her friend, and she goes, the mind reader was right. And I just want to point out, he wasn't, though, because all he said was try again, right? He didn't say the bank is going to give you a fucking loan, you know? So, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:48 So meanwhile, back at the theater, Nicholas is having a one-on-one with Dexter. He's come to see Dexter to tell him about the secret plans that Robert and Maxwell are drawn up against him, right? He says, first of all, I want you to do. know that yours is the greatest magic trick I've ever seen of the apparently
Starting point is 01:13:08 two that I've seen, I guess, because it's not very good. At this point I wrote in my notes, this is what Uri Geller thinks happened to him. Right, because he goes, you know, they go after people who claim to have supernatural powers and Caleb says, but Dexter's never made such claims and we're like, but you have
Starting point is 01:13:26 Caleb? Yeah, this is where Dexter says saying it's a trick would take away from what our act is all about. And I wrote, why would it do that? No, it wouldn't? That would be like saying,
Starting point is 01:13:39 Noah can only juggle because he dangles a baby out his bedroom window every morning. Well, and so, and, we're not supposed to tell people about that. But he goes like, this is serious, this is very serious. It isn't.
Starting point is 01:13:54 It isn't serious at all. He says, they don't play to lose. And I wrote, yes, they do. They're magicians. He goes, they don't play to lose, nor do they plan to. I'm like, okay, well, the last half is probably true, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 He threatens, well, he threatens on behalf of the association. Nicholas is, like, explaining to Dexter that they're going to shut down his real psychic show. Yes. And Caleb and Dexter are like, what is that, no, what does that mean, shut down our show? And he's like, trust me, you don't want to know. It was like a mob hit type of vibe to it. Yes, right. They have ways.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And they're like, are you going to murder? Dexter? Yeah, it was like the Muggles Union. Yeah. Like they were going to beat up the magical scab or something. Yes, right, right.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Your mentalism troop would be amazing as like beating up magical scabs. Yeah, right, yeah. So, okay, so then we cut to the meeting where they plan to expose Dexter once and for all, right? We slowly, we pan across
Starting point is 01:14:56 a bunch of dower magician faces until we land on this table up front where Maxwell and Rob and Nicholas are sitting in judgment. Yeah. They call themselves the governing board of magic, and I wrote my notes. Ah, yes, the governing board of magic
Starting point is 01:15:11 and the official party of dance. Yes, right. Right. Right. Eli, can I ask you a question about the governing board? When you start a meeting. Yeah. Is there a very silly, very small bell?
Starting point is 01:15:24 Yeah. To begin the meeting. We do the foof of fire, and that's like... Oh, yeah, there you go. No, I wrote my notes. I was like, Robert jingles the meeting door. He's got his little belly and so he explains that
Starting point is 01:15:38 this is the their job as the governing board of magic is to make sure that no magicians pretend to be real and I'm like wow you guys suck at your fucking jobs don't you somebody somebody get the Pope you know not Pope
Starting point is 01:15:54 he goes well this is 1974 hey write it down on the pad you thinking a hot dog Why not? Pope, I've probably covered up some rapes. Don't get to like me. So, yeah, so Dexter says, you know, I never said I used supernatural powers,
Starting point is 01:16:17 which again, he did. We know that he did. We were watching the movie. And they're like, it doesn't matter you didn't say that you weren't using them, right? Which, fair, fair. If you're out there doing a magic show, like, I mean, most magicians that I've seen,
Starting point is 01:16:32 will at some point remind you that what they're doing is a trick, right? But Dexter, when he is told that he needs to start doing that, he goes, I've never seen a magician admit that they were doing tricks to their audience. Have you ever seen a fucking magician? Yeah. Then? And at most magic shows, that's just insultingly obvious, right? Like, the guy's gently putting his pet rabbit back in the cage and he's like,
Starting point is 01:16:56 do not fear the God that stands before you. By the way, can I get a ride back to the train station? I thought I scored an uncrustable, but it was just the rapper. I'm really hurting. Listeners, once again, Eli is calling back to stuff that happened while we weren't recording. They brought me a rapper, podcast listener. That's so heartless. That's so fucking heartless.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I had to hide it from myself because I kept looking down at my notes and being like, oh, a little treat. No. God damn it. Okay, so here's what clearly happened. Is somebody in the audience thought, oh, you know what, I'm going to bring Eli an uncrustable. I know he loves him.
Starting point is 01:17:37 He's always talking about that. And then somewhere along the line, she was like, this uncrustable looks really fucking good. I don't think he's going to make it all the way to Eli. And then she saw me without my shirt on. She was like, he doesn't need another uncrustable. He's got, he's pretty crustable right now. He's got plenty of uncrustables up in his hotel room.
Starting point is 01:17:59 You know what? I do. I have strawberry and grape. Because your city, not very vegan-friendly. As it turns out, yeah. So, but then when he says, you know, I'm not going to tell my audience it's a trick, because that'd fuck up my bit. And they're like, well, it just so happens that we have this,
Starting point is 01:18:20 and they pull out his crumbled calculus notes. Oh. Yeah. And he says, I can see. that there are a bunch of calculations here which means you're doing some sort of math trick. Tell us the truth, Dexter.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Does X equal negative B plus or minus square root? Oh, do you got the rest of the quadratic? B squared. Minus 4A.C. All over to A. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:55 All right. All right. Heath has never been more proud Wow We have reached the peak of Eli's intellectual existence It's all downhill from here So, okay So he says it was a math trick
Starting point is 01:19:16 You're doing a math trick If you don't admit publicly that you're doing a math trick We're going to publish these notes That suggest you're doing a math trick and Nicholas is like you can't that can't do political violence like that absolutely not he goes he goes you have three days
Starting point is 01:19:38 to decide whether we've won the movie or not and then Nicholas goes those notes are meaningless I planted those so that your spy Judy could find them he knew all along because he's a fucking mind reader I mean how you going to spend your spy
Starting point is 01:19:56 to a fucking mind reed. This lady will work for me for free for like a month if I occasionally drop a crumpled piece of paper. It's a great way to get free labor unless you're a religion. I can't do Jehovah's Witness so we'll do this.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I did enjoy Maxwell doing the like taunty hype man thing. Right, yes, yes. That was fun. Shows over, Dexter. What was great is he does a little the guy who's talking. does a little side eye.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Like, hey, don't, I'm doing the threatening. So, all right, no. I was going to use your stepping on all my best lines. Just go to do your... Abra-cadabra, bitch. Craig, can I talk to you over here in the Whisper corner? Remember how I said I don't want you to hype me up? I do remember when you go that out.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I jumped out. I have to represent Jewish people as best I can in this movie. I understand. So I have to be very, very bad. I have to be evil. I got it. Okay. So, so he explained.
Starting point is 01:20:54 the paper's meaningless and then he says people want to be fooled into believing the supernatural and like says the Christian writer but then he says the truth is that you don't care about the integrity of magic
Starting point is 01:21:09 you don't care if I lie about being a psychic you're just mad because you can't figure out my fucking trick is done and yeah right when that's everybody's just like Eli that part's accurate right like you'd all go insane if somebody could do a trick you couldn't figure out.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Oh, my guy. If you say that to another magician, that's like, I hope you lose custody of your kids. But, like, serious, because we do that all the time. Yeah, right, right, no, because they actually had already lost custody. I'm glad you lost custody. No, we said that all the time. Because that guy who did the drink trick, I was like,
Starting point is 01:21:40 how do you do it? And you started crying. I did. Because you couldn't tell me the answer. There's a guy in New York who does a trick, and none of us know how he doesn't cheat, and it fucks us up real bad. Okay. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 01:21:50 It's the thing that I genuinely have you... You know how you think about, like, the bad things that have happened, to you, but nothing bad has ever happened to me except the Uncrustible. So I just I lie in my bed at night and I'm like, maybe there's a pouch underneath the table. Which has all possible
Starting point is 01:22:05 drinks in it. No, stupid, stupid, stupid. So, okay, so he's like, but I don't care if you publish my trash and he goes to walk out. But here's, like, honestly, maybe the funniest scene in the whole fucking movie is him trying to walk out of the, but the crowd of magicians doesn't move. And they let it go on for so long. So he's
Starting point is 01:22:24 just kind of trying to angrily scooch, you know? Unwilling to shoulder check his way out of the room. He's like, oh, I'm a psychic. I should have known you were going left to Ha! We're dancing. Stupid. So he's like, he pushes his way through a while, and then I shit you not.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Somebody yells, Dexter, and there's a gunshot. He got shot? They shoot him. Maxwell turns around and he goes, more like Abercadabre, huh? Huh? It's not to time. Not to time.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I wanted so bad for the next cut to just be Dexter with like a bullet in his teeth. Cut. Turns it around and has strawberry written on it.
Starting point is 01:23:10 So, okay. So then, so outside the doodley do, Caleb weeps for Dexter's memory. You know, he says, yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:22 you know, I sure will. miss my old friend Dexter and they're like wow that was a that was a pretty incredible story and we're like yeah seem better maybe you're both christiano brothers got together maybe it would be a great did you keep all the inserts where people later confirmed that the things he said on stage were true okay good so so he says i'll tell you what gentlemen wait for me in the front yard before you leave there's something i want to give you for your museum so we cut outside they're waiting for me comes out and he's like, here is one of the pads of paper
Starting point is 01:23:53 that Dexter used for his magic trick. Yes, they're ordinary fucking pads of paper. That's the whole thing. It's just a regular fucking pad of paper. I thought like a gun was going to pop out and shoot the interview guy. Yes, right, something. Come on. I stole this one from the Hyatt for him.
Starting point is 01:24:14 So, yeah, he's like, I want you to examine this notepad to see that there's nothing, no trick about it and they're like well we don't know if sure it's one of the ones he fucking used why you're not going to do the fucking trick so why would we bother with this shit right and to be clear there's no payoff to this right
Starting point is 01:24:31 no I thought he was going to be like now think of a word and then he does the trick nope he's just like all right you have that now so he goes to leave is the scene over yeah right he goes he goes nobody else ever didn't act like
Starting point is 01:24:47 dexter's and I'm like they did though I've seen Eli do this trick. I did this act. Me doing this act is on YouTube. Yes. Right. And then he goes to leave, and the reporter guy
Starting point is 01:24:59 who doesn't know which direction in his Zoom recorder faces and he says, one last question before you go. I did not stick my finger in the bullet hole. What? It's, what were you going to actually say?
Starting point is 01:25:14 It was not my finger. It's going to turn out to be a Jesus thing, and it's extra fun. So, okay. So he says, one more thing. How did he do the trick? Come on, let me give me a fucking break. And he goes, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you three things.
Starting point is 01:25:37 One answer will be true. The other two will be false. Okay. Can I just say that the sentence Noah said was so much more clear than what is actually saying? Yes. Noah couldn't help but write a better sentence. Right. He's actually like,
Starting point is 01:25:52 I'm going to answer your question in a multiple choice question. What? Fuck. Um, A. Yeah, I want to point out he's wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:05 He's lying. Because he goes, how did you do the trick? A, very well. The shittiest magic answer in the world. B, he really could. read minds, or see both of the above.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Now, I want to point out the parameters were that two of these were wrong. Right? That was the setup. Yes? Think about this shit. Man, you need the other Christiano, brother. You really do to bounce shit off up. I wanted the reporters to be like, oh, so you mean he did it very well? And he's like, no, I meant...
Starting point is 01:26:46 Then he was psychic, but bad, Shit, oh, fuck. Secret answer, secret answer, D. We hadn't really locked in the formula for the show when we agreed we were doing puns at the end. And then he goes, he goes, just believe, gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:27:08 humble yourselves and believe. Now, at this point, I wrote my nose, see, it's a Christian movie after all, because I was still worried. but then the credits run and a lot of you are probably sitting there thinking the ones of you who haven't seen the movie the listeners at home who haven't seen the movie
Starting point is 01:27:24 are thinking to themselves well this is going to be a really short episode why is there so much runtime left in the podcast it's mostly me crying about the uncrustable I didn't get it mostly well yeah that too but as the credits roll people get up and leave the movie and we follow them out of the theater
Starting point is 01:27:45 Like, there was genuinely a moment where I was like, this movie is not going to end until Rich Christiana walks into this theater and challenges us to a fucking fist fight. Ladies and gentlemen. Everybody whiff really hard. With Christ, all things are possible. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Rich, come out of here and there's no Christ. All right, we've been disproven all in some pro. Okay. I just want to say I feel like we could score a Cristiano. Yeah, but not Rich. I have the cameo funds necessary. So, okay. So, okay, so we follow these four friends out of the movie theater.
Starting point is 01:28:31 And what's amazing here is that now we've got Rich Cristiano writing dialogue for his characters about what a great movie he's writing. Right? Because they're walking out and they're going like, wow, it's a really good movie. One guy goes, oh, man, that part where he predicted it was the four o'clock. Whoa. That's the actual line. Well, I really thought he was going to get that wrong in the movie. Do you remember in the movie when things happened in the movie? Here's my question.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Because we're about to get into it. Do we think this section of the movie was caused by a test screening? Yes. Yeah. I think he screened this for his audience. And they were like, I don't get it. How come there wasn't no Jesus in it? How come?
Starting point is 01:29:19 How'd he do it? I told you there's a parable at the beginning. I think I wrote it down on my pad that you gave me when I came in here with the bag of chips you gave me for lunch. I think it would be better if the movie was explained in the movie. Yeah. So, okay. So, okay, so now, so. I wrote strawberry.
Starting point is 01:29:40 So as they're walking out, the one friend, there's this kid Danny who's, who's, paid for the other friends to go to the movie, right? So they're like, Danny, thank you so much for buying the tickets. He's like, yeah, guys, I thought maybe we could talk about some of the... Okay, no, Jack. All right, see ya. It's the best. The Christiana brother wrote this. His characters
Starting point is 01:30:01 that he wrote, one of them's Christian, and he's like, I got you guys those movie tickets. How fun was that? Anyway, I want to talk to you for a second. They're just like, fuck you. We're out. It's the best. It's awesome. Even the Christiano brother.
Starting point is 01:30:15 can't pretend that anyone gives a shit about a Christian. They're just leaving God is dead. Ooh, ooh, see you, Danny? Fucking awesome. Yeah, they all leave. I write in my nose, how the fuck are there 15 minutes left in this movie?
Starting point is 01:30:29 And then we cut over to Danny's dorm room where he's commiserating with his buddy about how he didn't manage to tell him about all the Jesus stuff in the movie. Right? He's like, yeah, man, I really blew it. And his buddy goes, well, maybe you'll get another chance.
Starting point is 01:30:43 There is a bizarre amount of movie. movie left, so. And then we just sort of follow Danny around in his day at college. It's very sad. I wanted him to have like a big whiteboard where he's like, make a movie where there's a movie in a movie, and then I explain that movie after they go to that
Starting point is 01:31:04 movie, but in the movie, I'm in the movie explaining the first movie. That's, you're just reading the script. No, that's no fair. So, okay. So yeah, so then he gets a tax. from his buddies that he went to the movies with, and he's like, they're like, hey, man, we need to meet you at the library after school.
Starting point is 01:31:21 We want to talk about something very important. What a college guys talk about when they get together. Jesus. Wait, wait, we can't go to the scene where they get there yet because Heath noticed one of the most amazing things in the history of film. Oh, okay. So he's sitting there in his math class.
Starting point is 01:31:42 First of all, we see his phone for a second. he's down to 58% and it's like 2 p.m. So that's just in bed. Like, this is why we lost the election. This is why right here. But we also... TikTok takes up a lot of bad.
Starting point is 01:31:53 We also see... We also see... I got to check on Zingzing the monkey. She needs me. Yeah. Yep. So that's why we lost the election. TikTok, for sure. Also, we see his math notes for a second.
Starting point is 01:32:08 He's got a notebook. He's at a university. He has a notebook for a university math class. and it has PEMDOS on it. It does. I saw that in Heath's notes, and I had to go back and look. It does.
Starting point is 01:32:24 P-E-M-D-A-S. That's the order of operations for arithmetic. At his college level. In his university math class. Please excuse my dear aunt Sally at his university math class. cuts up to the board is just that Facebook meme 99% of people will get this wrong
Starting point is 01:32:48 Albert Einstein I'm glad we lost the election so then so okay so now he's got the text he goes to meet with his dismissive friends and it turns out they don't want to talk to them about Jesus at all they only wanted to talk to them about the name for their intramural basketball team
Starting point is 01:33:09 darn it right So, Danny, the serious Christian here, he's like, all right, I thought it was going to, I thought you were going to want to talk about Christianity. I'm going to take off. And you see the rest of them be like, guys, he's like crying already. Danny, wait, was there maybe like a parable from the movie? He was his parable, movie was parable. So the pads are the word of God.
Starting point is 01:33:39 What? He goes, yeah. So he goes, he goes, because the question they asked, they're like, hey, man, at the beginning of that movie, there was like a Bible quote. What was that all about? Right? And he goes, oh, yeah, no, it was the part about Jesus talking in parables. And they're like, why wouldn't Jesus just say what he fucking meant? And his answer is to punish you for not believing.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Yes. Jesus is kind of like butt stuff, right? In the parable? like yeah okay let me yeah let him yeah let me cook I will stick the landing here
Starting point is 01:34:19 okay that's very important when you're doing butt stuff that you stick the landing what I'm saying is I've got yes yes it is good point Noah I'm saying Jesus doesn't move
Starting point is 01:34:33 you move your ass to Jesus It seems like a bit of a stretch But hey it's butt stuff It's always a bit of a stretch You know Not always Not always
Starting point is 01:34:49 And it's the only way to the father I like that we ended on a holy joke That's great So he's like No don't you guys understand The movie was supposed to be a parable And they're like Was it?
Starting point is 01:35:07 Because like we're sitting here explaining the whole fucking thing right now. So, I don't know that it is. And then he goes full ray comfort. Yeah. Are you think you're a good person? Yeah. Yeah, he has this great moment where he's like,
Starting point is 01:35:21 guys, why would Jesus have to die on the cross if being a good person was enough? And I was like, oh, you're so close. You're so close. Yes. Oh, you're so close. Indeed. Indeed, why?
Starting point is 01:35:31 Use your pet mask. So, and then he starts smelling everything out. This, this writer is such a chicken shit. He goes, no, guys, look, Judy was Judas, and Nicholas was Nicodemus, and the, and the pads were the Word of God. And they're like, what? And remember the anti-Semitic guys, they were Jew? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:35:57 He even says, yeah, he's like, and those guys were the, you know, they were trying to kill Jesus. And then friend three goes like, what's, It's fucking dumb, man. This movie is dumb. We're in a dumb movie. And then, like, two of the three friends, well, he goes, you know, they're like, you know, wouldn't it make more sense if Jesus just explained what he meant?
Starting point is 01:36:21 And they're like, no, no, it wouldn't. There's like, are you sure because, like, otherwise you burn in hell for eternity if you don't get it? I feel like that's one of those situations where you want to be super direct about things. Is this where they do the, we know what the alternative is conversation? Yeah. He goes, well, you know what the alternative is, and they both do like a knowing nod because they don't want to in their movie about magic tricks
Starting point is 01:36:45 be like, and then the rape demons, they just, but you don't remember it. So it's the worst it's ever been because it's new every time. What were you guys thinking we would name our interim basketball team? Yeah, but the one guy goes like, but come on, man, I'm a good person.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I should get into heaven. And he's like, no, no, according to my religion, that's not even relevant. Not only, it's not just insufficiency, it's irrelevant that you're a good person. And I'm like, hmm, do you hear it, though, now? They don't. So two of the friends get up and walk off. They're like, I'm sick of your Christian bullshit.
Starting point is 01:37:20 So they get up, they walk off. And the third Christian, Logan, sticks around because he wants to hear a little bit more of this Jesus stuff. He represents Wolverine from the Bible, I guess. Yes, clearly. I'm the best at what I chew. But he goes, like, but shouldn't we all get to heaven if Christ died for all of our sins? He didn't die for just some of our sins. He's like, no, it turns out he did.
Starting point is 01:37:45 It was kind of a dick movie. I still have to say the magic words. And he says, well, okay, well, what does the Bible have to say about all of this? Because that's the next logical question, right? And he goes, check out John 146. And I'm like, well, weird that it would just be the one sentence that you'd want him to check out. You'd think it'd be a whole chapter or something, but no. he says like well i don't know if i want to and then he goes look we're talking about eternity here
Starting point is 01:38:12 or bullshit it's one of those two things that we're talking about and so we have a we have oh so sorry so and then he goes hey do you remember when caleb said in the movie that you should humble yourself and just believe and we're like yeah it was seven fucking minutes ago man yeah we remember it in the context of the movie it was fucking bizarre made no sense so okay so then he leaves now we've got Logan back in his dorm room
Starting point is 01:38:41 thinking about Christianity picking up the Bible and thinking about it but not really being sure yet were you guys worried we were going to pull out into a different movie I was afraid it was going to pan out and people were going to be leaving this movie I don't know why Logan didn't listen to his super smart friend maybe you should have made better arguments
Starting point is 01:39:00 anyways here we are in our Alaskan research station. Everyone remember, Pemblass. What are the most important parts of Alaskan research? Tab flash. Paragraph electrical denoness. We got it.
Starting point is 01:39:24 The movie jumped up its own Pemdass. All right. So now we're going to follow Logan around, right? We follow Danny around. Now we're going to follow Logan around for a little while. He's at work at the coffee shop. Still a fucking movie. And he looks over in the restaurant,
Starting point is 01:39:43 and he sees somebody who looks just like Dexter from the movie. Yeah. Who is Jesus in the movie. Dexter Christ is there. And you watch Dexter Christ, the actor, right? So, like, this would be an actor according to the swoosh warrior. That's the thing. is that even in the movie, that guy exists as an actor.
Starting point is 01:40:07 As an actor. So you watch this actor and be like, this weird Christian priest is going to ask me if I'm Jesus Christ right now. I got to get out of here. And he walked out. Knowing he was an actor in a Cristiano film, I expected him to go up to the counter and be like, are you guys taking applications?
Starting point is 01:40:22 Yeah, right, right. Dave Cristiano paid me $200 in membership at his church. Turns out that was free anyway. So, okay, so now we cut to Logan. and he's studying the Bible hard because he saw that actor in his coffee shop. So then he reads something in the Bible, and he decides to go talk to his other non-Christian friends from before, right?
Starting point is 01:40:42 And so he asked him, he's like, hey, guys, what if Danny's right? Now, here's the honest-to-gone interaction that happens within this film. He goes, what if Danny's right? And the other guy goes, well, what if Danny's wrong? And he goes, yeah, but what if Danny's right? And the other guy goes, no, that's a good point. Okay, to be clear, if I was in a conversation that idiotic, that is exactly what I would do. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I said, but what if you're wrong and they said, but what if I'm right? I'd be like, great point, man. Guess you should leave. I've got some praying to do. Dear Allah. Yeah. It's neither here nor there. Yeah, no, but they go back and forth exactly three times.
Starting point is 01:41:26 And the movie chooses, of course, the movie Piacs this argument. Yes, right. The movie Pax's like, what if he's right? But what if he's wrong? But what if he's right? Oh, damn it! Jesus, we win. Odd numbers win these games.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Yeah. That's what the P and Pem dances for. So the one friend goes, like, don't take religion too seriously. And Logan goes, well, Danny takes it pretty seriously. And we're like, yeah, and he's a prick. Right? He's an annoying prick. And we won't even go to a movie with it.
Starting point is 01:41:54 He doesn't pay for all of our tickets, right? But Logan thinks they should all be more Christian. So he goes back to study his Bible. he reads the John 14 whatever chapter which is that's the Jesus was the way and the truth in the life verse which I want to point out is entirely meaningless out of context and translates to Christianity as the right religion though that's all it means but that's enough for Logan he prays and then he sends Danny a text that says I just prayed to Jesus and then we see a big stupid grin from Danny credits for me reels this time.
Starting point is 01:42:33 This is a Christiano fantasy right here. It's so beautiful because it's like, and then my friend from college, who is real, texted me back. End of movie. I have won. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Yes. Yes. All right. And that is genuinely it. There's not another credits that we walk out of after that. At least I don't think so. Actually, I turned it off before the credits were over.
Starting point is 01:43:00 It might still be. going. I don't know. All right. Well, that's going to do it for a review of Mind Reader and possibly for Eli's love of stage magic, but that's not going to do it for the episode just yet, because people get really mad when we leave the what's on deck portion out of the live shows, regardless of how awkward it is to do on stage. So, Eli,
Starting point is 01:43:16 what's on deck? Stranded in rural Alabama, two couples are faced with a maniacal killer and a deadly ultimatum, while sheltering in a home that itself harbors evil.
Starting point is 01:43:31 We'll be kicking off our Halloween spooktacular with house. Okay. Not... Awesome. Not the good house. Not the one with Norm, but the other... A different house. We'll have Tim specify on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Which one? All right. Well, that's going to do it for the episode. Before we go, I need to thank Tim Robertson for all the work that he did, organizing things for us. He always does an amazing job. We need to thank Ann Perkins for. all work that she's been doing, helping out with merch.
Starting point is 01:44:03 And Perkins. She's also the reason that I had to Dr. Beber. We need to thank the lovely and talented Lucin Delusions over here. We need to thank the magical Dave, who manages to make feedback go away just by walking near it. Thank you so much for making it sound good today. Yes. We need to thank everybody at the Crown Plaza,
Starting point is 01:44:23 especially Caitlin, who is amazing. She's the one that did all the organizing for us. She's not in the room, but I want her to know that we thought she was awesome as well. And on that note, we'll leave you with the American graffiti clothes. Caleb put on his best waterproof mascara and tearfully announced Maxwell, I forgive you for shooting. Eventually,
Starting point is 01:44:57 eventually, the association guys realized they should. I should have asked for the fucking pens. Dexter now tries to get attention by telling the New York Post he knew 9-11 was going to happen. It doesn't work. Thank you, New Orleans. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Thank you. I got so excited when I saw this Uncrustibles rapper, and then it was empty. I regret my whole career. That is heartbreaking. Rock stars get panties. I get empty, uncrustable rappers. And my own panties. Made a terrible mistake
Starting point is 01:46:17 here on my 30-month birthday. That was yesterday. While we wait for other people to come in, can I tell you a story that's a little too boring for the podcast but is actually kind of sweet? I was telling this to Heath backstage. So I have a friend who's a magician
Starting point is 01:46:35 and the way he sort of built his career is going on tour in England. And so he was on tour once and he was doing like a full week of shows in this little town in England and he noticed that a lady had left an earring in the theater and he uses cameras in his act
Starting point is 01:46:53 so he used the cameras to see which lady lost the earring and then he looked at the ticket booth to see when she bought her ticket and went through the times and saw who it was. Then he used her email to look her up and found her address. And he sent his wife to this woman's apartment. And his wife knocked on her door
Starting point is 01:47:10 and was like, hi, my mom lives below you. We're getting a leak. Can I check and see if the leak is coming from your apartment? And then she hid the earring in the woman's bathroom behind the mirror. And then he had a radio appearance that day. And on the radio, he was like, I'm getting a woman named Karen.
Starting point is 01:47:27 She's lost an earring. It's behind the bathroom mirror If you find it The best part about that story Is that he never heard anything So she probably just wasn't listening to the radio And he stole that lady's earring And lost her fucking earring
Starting point is 01:47:46 Best case scenario She was like, oh fuck It was behind the mirror That's weird Secrets of Magic Reveal Thank you so much Thank you so much. So real quick, before,
Starting point is 01:48:00 we don't actually do the sketches and stuff on the live show, sorry. We don't actually leave during the breaks, though, which is nice. But this particular live show just happened to fall on a very awesome day, which is right between the birthday of one Eli Bosnick,
Starting point is 01:48:17 who celebrated his something or another birthday, 38th, 39th? 38th. The birthday yesterday. and the lovely... Are you sure? The one I'm looking forward to is the last one.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Okay, all right. But that birthday was yesterday and tomorrow is the birthday of my lovely wife, Lucinda, who's right back here. So we're apparently going to pin a dollar on her shirt tomorrow and walk her around town
Starting point is 01:48:48 and try to make some money. I would just like to point out that the difference between your birthday claps for me and the birthday claps for Lucinda. Well, you're... birthday clap for you was like there was a surprise in it, right? You know? That was my note just so you're all wondering.
Starting point is 01:49:04 You know when they bring out an athlete who got hurt real bad and now he doesn't play anymore? That's how you birthday clapped for me. Here he is, everybody. Tyson Diggs. How you doing, bud? All right. It's only because I said her last.
Starting point is 01:49:23 All right. And you didn't know the number to be fair. It was like, oh, buddy, and then he didn't know the number. It got worse. All right. And I wasn't even going to try saying the number for Lucinda. She's turning 29 again. 21, everybody.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Yeah. All right. Let's buy her first beer. What do you say? Yeah. All right, since you're... All right, since everybody's clapping and laughing anyway, we'll come back. All right, well, if guy who wants a boy and flower lady, you're going to factor...
Starting point is 01:49:56 Sorry. one more time. Morgan, make it sound like I didn't say this. Keep it in, Morgan. Well, right now, well, you think... He caught my cool Bitcoin story. Keep it, Morgan. All right. So apparently, this guy is so good. Our audio
Starting point is 01:50:11 guy is so good, he can just walk by the fucking speakers and they know better than to keep squealing. Thank you. Thank you so much. Hold on. Are you a psychic? This is how he uses his power. How the fuck did you? Did your mom take Tylenol when she was pregnant?
Starting point is 01:50:34 That was awesome. That was pretty good. See what you get for coming to the live show? Yeah. All sorts of fun shenan. Yeah, everybody else will have to wait to the outtakes to hear that part. This content is canned credentialed, which means you can report instances of harassment, abuse,
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