God Awful Movies - 64: GAM064 The Atheist Delusion

Episode Date: November 8, 2016

This week, Eli, Noah, and Heath team up for an atheist review of The Atheist Delusion, a hybrid of man on the street interviews with high teenagers who can't explain cosmology to Ray Comfort, and left over stock footage of animals. If you’d like to make a per episode donation, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/?fref=ts

Yeah, oh well then you're a blaspheming lying Hitler. Yeah Then you hit lat you understand you But we both know that I'm not Hitler so why why doesn't your god not know that I'm not Not the point those are words that you've allowed me to apply to you now Say now you have to act like your headlight. Come on, put on my face. Put it up. Here's your little hat.

Oh, that's truly chap. Here's your little headlight hat. God awful. Movie. Movie. Movie. Who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be who will be I'm sending to my immediate left as my good friend Heath and right, Heath, welcome back, sir. Thank you, thank you. I'm not sure I feel comfortable doing this atheist show anymore, but last forgiveness we're done. Well, I gotta say before you watched Ray's movie, you were unhealthy and now you're healthy err. So there is that.

You're positive. And sitting 81 miles to my right, of course course is my bad friend Eli Bosnig Eli how are you this fine afternoon sir I'm pretty fantastic I got to tell you I'm real convinced by this series of stock footage and then Ray bothering teenagers so that's pretty much that could have been the title right there stock footage and Ray bothering teenagers, but it isn't so tell us heath what will we be breaking down today? All right we watched Eli doesn't know where Soho is. Also watch it's a documentary. It's about how Eli lives in New York City doesn't know where Soho is nobody deal. We also watched the atheist delusion. It's the story of Ray Comfort just harassing thousands of

people I imagine until he found eight inarticulate atheists to interview. So the part we get to see is Ray Ray explaining to these eight people how DNA was mentored 6,000 years ago by a ghost while I dreamed about cutting his tongue out with Hawkems Raisin. And by the way, if you notice that quick breathing in thing that heath was doing to power through the opening regardless of Eli wanting to talk get used to that. Ray will do it too. So Eli tell us how bad was this movie? Well, he doesn't know where Soho is. Keep saying it. He's trying to say it. Each time you say it, Andrew litigates it and sits more and more of a lie. It's fine.

Andrew keeps having to fight himself and try to fight him. He's coming out on the side. I just love the thought of all of these people who are looking back into the archives going, where did I miss something about Soho? No, guys, it's not like it's not like puzzling a thunderstorm that the mystery has never revealed in the archives. I'll reveal it to you to ask me a reason, cut. Well, if you love stock footage, but you hate logic, you will love this movie. I feel like Ray watched the hypnotism scene from Zoolander and was like, I could do that. It just gonna switch it. The prime minister, Japan, for Jesus.

He's a ninja. It's a movie. Yeah, I feel like in a lot of ways this movie contends for, you know, worst shit we've ever sat through. I'm not saying it is the worst shit that we've ever sat through just that it's a legitimate contender. So before we get going, I want to kind of give everybody an idea of where it falls. So tell me, where do you guys think this movie ranks in terms of like, you know, just being hard to sit through?

Like for me, it's right below international gorillas and right above matter of faith. Hmm. It's actually near the bottom for me. I enjoyed all the colorful pictures. There were a lot of fun. Absolutely, and I was gonna say the same thing. This is actually relatively easy to watch because There are this movie is made for people for whom science will get boring So there are strategic like look a fuzzy bunny pictures throughout this movie so that raise audience aren't like I don't know what this bag at DNA stuff throughout this movie so that Ray's audience aren't like, I don't know what this bag at DNA stuff is. No, no.

Boo. All right, so where would you say at ranks in terms of making you want to lash out violently? For me, I would say top of the list. I'm just just throwing, I don't want to like influence anyone's vote. Well, I'm almost there. I'd say it's right below Vax.

And also the left-handed shortstop thing in Kirk Cameron's Right below those see I was gonna go. It's just below matter of faith, but it's above loving the bad man Okay, all right, I like a nice room. How about we're at ranks in terms of presenting its case in a convincing way? Hmm, I'm gonna say N slash A. I ranked it right above the Mormon musical and right below what the bleep do we know? Oh, see, I rated it just above Vax, but just below what the bleep do we know? All right, all right. So we're close though.

Our rankings are close. If you're playing fantasy Christian movie, you know, okay. And so finally, where would it rank in terms of like Pavlovian saliva response? All right. Come on. I'm always hungry. Don't be mean about it. So all those amazing recipes from blueapry.com forward slash scaring got three

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So is there anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best at being the worst at? We covered it slightly, but can I go with best worst use of a shutter stock account? Movie was brought to you by shutter stock. Because we sit around in the quiet moments and we're like, man, wouldn't it be amazing to make not another Christian movie?

And we really like think about like what it would be about. We throw ideas back and forth. And here this whole time, we've been thinking about scripts and sets and actors. All we needed was a Shutterstock account and to bother people who couldn't argue as well as us in that crazy. Turns out you can do it on a budget. Heath any nominations? Yeah, I'm going to say best worst

forgetting to cut the part when Lawrence Krause makes you look like an idiot. Oh, it's bad. Here's the thing about this. OK, so Ray has a bit in this movie where he talks to Lawrence Krause. And you've got to figure this is the moment from that entire interview that makes him look the least stupid. Yeah Which is rough because he gets you to throw in and shit himself

Yeah And by the way, I want to throw this out to in the best worst the most ephemeral Homophobia and Islamophobia that we've ever encountered. There are just constantly moments of this that like we're as we're going to the end of the scene where he's just like and ju start another wars. Yeah, you know, he works it in with the end and he talks very quickly but like we can still hear the term fag gray. We know what I'm all right.

And faggots. What sorry what was that now? I was just saying he told me convinced now. Have I made you think? Have I made you think? Look into my eyes. Look into my eyes. And sleep. What sorry what was that now? I was just saying you totally convinced now have a major thing have a major thing Look into my eyes looking in my eyes and sleep And wake up a Christian Yeah, he said we'll point him out when they happen, but there are plenty of them

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No, I don't. And through conversation, show them the error their ways. Right, but don't you see birds and trees in your eyes and your larynx and your tongue and your foot and your toes and the food all put together so perfectly to find out that spot-a-man does whatever spot-a-can, you hear what I'm saying? I mean, I hear the words that you're saying.

Nailed it. No, no, no, no, no, I mean, I don't agree. I just, I mean, like in a literal no, I mean I don't agree. I just I mean like in a literal sense I do hear What you're saying right gonna gonna cut that part order now and get it for full months before we take all the DVDs and throw them in the garbage It give them away or whatever they do Maybe say it with me Spider-man Spider-man is not much one minute see the gift of spider-man Spider-man is only twenty minutes. See the gift of Spider-man the Spider-man

delusion because I'm better at arguing than teenagers. And we're back for the breakdown and we're gonna start things off getting all indignant about the fact that we're all just things on a rock floating in space. about the fact that we're all just things on a rock floating in space. This movie begins with Ray being huffy that we're not magic things floating through water. Like what does, what is his alternate option? Like he doesn't say like, oh, we're immortal angels

floating through lafytaffy. I don't know what the opposite of this thing he's upset about is Well, right like it like you know you can look at a diamond and say well That's just you know carbon atoms arranged a certain way and shit You don't get pissed off at the diamond for it afterwards Terrifying the music's ridiculous this point too. Um is basically I'm gonna murder you with this cello bow the music's ridiculous this point too. Basically, I'm gonna murder you with this cello bow.

This is the music that's happening. And while that's happening, they literally show us like ominous cuts of a DNA strand and a finch. That's the evil thing that's happening. The end-dance of dice being rolled, yeah, exactly. This should be the intro to a movie about a super bug. Not something that's gonna try to convince you to believe in God. Right, and what's amazing is this is probably the most on-point stock footage we will ever get in this film.

Like, at least you can see what they're going for here. So, we get this ominous, like, throw a bunch of shit at you, so you're thinking you're gonna watch a real movie, kind of opening. And then, of course, we get the the big bang and then a bald eagle. And basically the message here is, oh look, this is a documentary you can tell because it has animals. Right, yeah. And raise lists for making a movie by Stuck footage, talking to microphone, profit. That's where you really recognize going to be a lot of this.

This is where we do a quick flash through of everyone being like I'm an atheist. I'm an atheist. Yeah, I'd call myself an atheist, atheist, atheist, atheist, atheist, atheist. And look, I know we usually make fun of the physical appearance of some of the people in these movies and I know that these people are on our side and they're probably very nice people so we can do it as much as I'm about to But atheists if can we just all agree if we ever end up talking to Ray that we not have the silliest hair and outfits possible Maybe we take our purple hair and our hot topic t-shirt off for the interview with the guy who makes movies about us I'm just saying dress up sport it up a little so yeah Yeah, so we meet like David the atheist and mr. Jowls the atheist

He just finds a bunch of random atheists and I think with one exception. They are all 19 years old or younger Right, and they're they all have big shit eating I get to fuck with Ray Comfort grins on their face Which of course everyone would have except they're not good at it and they end up praying with him. Like it's you watch, it's like the kids from Bible Club, the movie was Steve Involveum where they were like, oh, watch me get Steve Involvein. All right, I take Christ as my personal savior. What happened? This didn't go well. I thought I was gonna get you.

Yeah, he keeps fucking it up. He's trying to make him out to be evil, but it's like, okay, what happened to make you an atheist? And the person's like, I started thinking about stuff. He's like, oh, we're gonna keep that moving on. We're gonna keep that moving on. Where are you an atheist? Not enough evidence to believe in God. All right. Fuck. What if I molested? What is gonna come out? And there's actually a montage of people being like,

yes, I'm atheist as if that's eat like fucking typical. Yes, they're atheist. They say yes. So weird. And there's also this montage here right where he's asking all of them, like if you saw evidence to confirm that God existed, would you change your mind? And all of them are saying yes.

Now of course this is his way of like trapping them in. Oh, I've got him real then. Now they have to look at my evidence. But I would love to just contrast this with asking the same question of Christians. We would automatically win the argument since they would be saying no. Right. You know, but whereas with atheists, even if you go up to fucking menthol Ronald McDonald and ask him this question, he gets it right. I know, he's one of the guys. So anyway, yeah. So, yeah, so we get this and then we get to the first argument. Now, I assumed that this would be the first in a series of arguments that we would get throughout the movie.

This is going to be approximately 26 minutes of the hour long run time. This is the look at this book. Are you telling me it just created itself out of nothing? Argument. Yeah. And so be clear, he starts this by literally handing people a multi-colored picture book, rough that Ray carries that around everywhere. But let's say it's just an example. Let's say it's not the only thing he's read, it's fine. It's fine. And he's like, you see that book?

You see that book? Do you believe that book just fell out of the sky? And they're like, no, no, I don't. And he's like, that would be pretty stupid. Now, what if I told you that book was created by a wizard? That makes a lot more sense. That's just, yeah, bringing in. But yeah, the whole thing is like, if I told you this book just fell out and came together

randomly, wouldn't you think that silly? But then he's going to transition from that to a literal metaphor for a book in a moment. Like he's literally, that's like people being like time flies and then him holding a clock and being like, are you ready? We're getting this. Spies. Well, right, right, because we transition immediately from that to the complexity of DNA, right? So, no, I have to point out as we're doing this, okay? He is very clearly on college campuses, most of of the time which means there's a biology department nearby Right, he could be finding out about DNA

Exactly right, but instead he's talking to all of the dumbest kids he can find and then of course cutting out the top 9 tenths of it Until he has these folks left over They're not even that stupid like several times. He asked one one. He's like what's DNA the NA and they're like oh it's a deoxyribonucleic acid he's like oh you're ready for that one we cut and ask a stupid looking kid is and then he asked yeah it's oh it's genetic code all right fuck let's go somewhere else find a we like didn't cut those either kept Kraus too. I'm gonna hold someone else's hecky sack hostage. You're the back, crack down, Dundee. Come on, man. I don't like it. So, but where he's going with this ultimately is there are more letters in DNA than there are in books. And if books couldn't exist without a designer, how could the book of life exist?

Even says, you know, this been called the instruction book of life. The instruction book of life. Yeah, no, this is the argument from why are there still infinite monkeys? I can't see. Classic. Geniuses. And that's literally the transition he makes is like this has been called a book. You just agreed a book wouldn't appear out of nowhere.

Therefore, DNA couldn't have evolved over millions of years. I see no difference. Ray out. Drops the mug. But also, it's tiny little moment, but I love it so much. So in order to fill this movie, Ray lists things rapid fire constantly. He's like, I'm monkey. I can't. A dog. You're red hair. You're brown hair. You blue hair. You told you're short. You fat. You murder her. You're rapist.

You're pregnant. Like you just list some million things so that they're like, Oh, bro, give me my hockey sack. Stop saying words. Like I get the tactic, but like you don't constantly. And in this first scene, he's explaining how cool DNA is and he goes, DNA is what gives you blonde hair and it shows a picture of a person with blonde hair, a brown hair and it shows a person with brown hair and then he goes and red hair and it shows a picture of an orangutan. I found very offensive. Figure the Irish people weren't offended enough by the leopard counting the hood. He also says all the color of your feathers if you were a bird.

And I wrote my notes. I'm glad Raiden leave out the birds that are watching this video. Right. Or did he just see a Disney cartoon one time and thought, fuck, they watched TV too. Well, better save those souls. Yeah, at this point, like Ra starts explaining what DNA is to me. And I figured his tactic is he was trying to convince me of christianity by convincing me i had died and gone to their hell at this point because ray comfort was explaining how dna worked to myself so then we move on to like basically we don't move on we were we were going to stay with the same argument we're just really going to drill in because this is where he starts going on to like ask everybody like well what do you think of the mentality of somebody who would believe that a book just fell together you think they were pretty stupid huh?

Right and you see people being like I that seems like a multi-faced question that I can't answer like yes or no to because you're not asking me about the thing I believe you're asking me about a fake thing that I don't you're like it's like Hey, how how hard do you think you could punch this straw man? I've built I don't know man pretty hard yeah, and he actually asks like did DNA happen by accident That's one of his direct questions and like he thinks the word Accident doesn't exist so you can't really answer that for a comfort Crazy person right and and so often the

argument that he's trying to make in this movie really does boil down to something that fucking stupid where it's like you have so misconstrued what you're trying to say or what you think DNA is or what you think evolution means that it's not possible to answer you anymore. That look like that people are giving you that's it's they're not stumped because you've just Presented really good evidence. They're just stumped. You understand head DNA is a little later We're the angels crawl up and they deliver messages to your muscles to let them know you know how you DNA is that and they're like And he's like yeah, I know it's hard to take in on once. In a second, I'm gonna get real close to your face with this guy.

I'm gonna get so fucking close to his face with this microphone. I'm gonna make Cameron's ainess look like a distant memory. And D&A did happen by accident, right? I mean, my parents told me that's how it was born To pull out and there I was Well, and that's the other thing too is like okay by accident like I'm writing in my notes here like Gee, I wonder when Ray is gonna debunk the clay world hypothesis in the RNA world hypothesis

You know For fuck's sake and that's the other thing is that again, again, we're getting this like, there's no difference between we don't definitively know and we have no fucking clue everybody gets to make up their own shit. Well and also things that we definitely do know. At one point he's like, DNA can't create DNA, right? That's stupid. Yes it fucking is.

Oh of course it can. I literally made that happen in my high school biology class during a lab. Replicated it. Right, because you would never be able to answer Ray Comfort with that point because you would start listing animals at you. Like honestly, who would have child randomly lists animals like that? I called it the speaking spell defense throughout my notes here. Oh yeah?

Oh yeah? Well, that's a great point. You've made this debate there. No illusions. However, the cow says. Oh yeah, well that's a great point you've made this debate there no illusions however The cow says Think it's pretty clear. I'm gonna get Clarence Gilliat up here to do Cornflakes and we'll be ready to go also tiny moment here, but again like it's the subtle moments with Ray that that make me love him so much In the middle of very clearly twisting a point

to get a very specific answer that he knows he's misconstruing. He goes, look, I don't want to win an argument. I just want you to concede that you're wrong. I'm not here to debate you. I'm here to prove that I am right and you are a heavy admit that in a movie which I will use to convince other people. You literally admits that and he thinks he's acting like it makes him like less disingenuous, right? He's like, I'm not here to debate you, you know, because I'm not changing my fucking mind. Yeah, you can do whatever the fuck you want. Honestly, look at this. I stopped believing in fingers and they're fucking gone Done matter. Look me in my heart. You see it. It's all crazy. It's crazy all the way

I don't know what I did in my 20s. I don't know what I did in my teens. There's a homeless guy buried in New Zealand somewhere We're not thinking about it. The truth of the matter is I'm bearing it under all this fucking crazy Now I've got some trick questions for you. Have you ever seen a moose at bird a donkey and already And so now it's time to move on to the are you saying that nothing created everything? argument now I want to point out okay So this is all basically this entire movie is going to be like man on the street footage and like you know like jaylen omeda's living walking around doing this and finding

people who thought the spanish american war was a rap battle you know like it like this is this is a proven way of finding the dumbest possible god damn people but even then he can't really find many really truly dumb people as possible goddamn people. But even then, he can't really find many, really, truly dumb people to represent anyway. But the point being, like he starts walking up to other people and demanding that they explain

how the universe came into existence, like just random guy on the street cosmology. And he says it in a way that we, the movie viewer, are supposed to connect, can DNA replicate itself or isn't DNA complicated with how did the universe get created, which is like me saying, how does the polarity of water worked? What is love, baby, don't hurt me.

They're not. Connect, I know they're both things you don't understand, but they are not connected by anything except your ignorance of them as concepts. Yeah, he thinks nothing created a magical warlock who can build universes. That is so much more goddamn complicated than GATC's four letters. How far does that? I'm sorry. Misspelled goodpelled good he played to correct you But she can says Yeah, I should have brought this with my color

So if I'm summing up this whole argument from it in this little section he's saying basically you're an atheist So you believe nothing created everything now. I'm gonna beat the shit out of this scarecrow see see no brain to do to do to do to do that What's happening? That could be the whole film if it absolutely if we actually had to get this episode out in three minutes That that would be the episode yeah He then transitions that to Richard Dawkins thinks nothing creating And there's this amazing what we're gonna get to it of like his whole Dawkins thinks nothing creative. And there's this amazing, well, we're gonna get to it of like his whole Dawkins attack,

which is phenomenal, but there's this amazing moment. One of the smart kids, yes, who actually gives good answers the whole time. He never gets stumped. He goes, do you like Richard Dawkins? And he gives the perfect atheism who is aware of Dawkins' entire career answer, which is like Be more specific

Like the selfish gene or do I like his Twitter? I need to know how And I gotta say like ultimately if you really wanted to like make your point by making Richard Dawkins look bad, it's not really that hard to do. You know, you would have to do some ad hominem like, oh, his argument is false because he was an asshole to this guy on Twitter kind of stuff. But you couldn't fuck it up more royalty than Ray does by immediately presenting Ray or of Richard Dawkins across from the guy representing Ray Comfort's side in this battle.

George fucking pal! George Cardinal George Pell, the child molestation covering and allegedly child molesting Cardinal who hid and was like I'm sick that's why I can't come to trial. Come home Cardinal Pell George Pell. And the way we're presenting this we're watching Dawkins give uh no context to his comments we're just watching him try to give context but with no sound. Yeah right. While Ray comfort is dubbed over the top and then one sentence from Doc is at the end. It's literally his mouth moving while Ray's like Richard Dockins is probably like, blow, blow, look at me, I'm English.

So it's no blow, a bit of good. My pubes are all grey and wispy. Grey and bolding and wispy and that's why nothing came from anything. Look at that weird, right? Right, and the moor on. So they give him just a conclusion where he's like, where he says, so that's how nothing can come from him. And the audience kind of giggles Adam or whatever.

And he's like, what's silly about that? And starts explaining why that's not silly, but they mute him again. That's like, oh, fuck, no. Not only do they mute him, but he goes on a monologue about like now while Richard grew telekinetic powers and killed that audience you can see how ridiculous everyone thought it was Well, right cuz you say it he's like well clearly after that question

Richard Dawkins was rattled You can trust me on that you don't need to hear any of this rattles stuff. It doesn't he look rattled He looks rattled doesn't it please don't you tube that debate it doesn't do that way ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the fucking of kids. Like I'm telling you, I was in a hard, for a kittyfucker, you know? For a kittyfucker, he goes to an hat. It's no fun. It's no fun to watch. This is also where Ray gets into the initial cause argument. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ray Comfort doesn't believe in a pre-god, right?

So he's an atheist about that. Right. That kind of interesting. And he's basically saying like, you know, atheist are wrong because it's scientifically impossible for nothing to cause everything. And are we playing with scientifically possible as a rule?

Yeah, right. Is that because that, the whole rest of the thing doesn't work real. Yeah, let's, let's, let's just get that out of the way up front. And also, by the way, have you ever in your life seen a video that's all like man on the street shit That is this little of the man on the street talking and this much of the guy behind the microphone talking at them Well, they nod

Also, I never heard the argument from Tim Allen agrees Tim Allen former Coke dealer hack comedian agrees with me. So there's a god Must just also just this incredible again. I know tiny moments are really what I'm focusing on There's this great moment where he's very clearly trying to have a good will hunting It's not your fault moment with this guy where he's like you know just a blob of nothing you're wonderful Hey, I tell you you loved you love Daniel It's gonna be okay But Daniel's just like you're fucking crazy. Why do you smell so much like sweat and he's like you know now

It was a fat Jew earlier lick me up and down I can't stop seeing the look in his eyes. Peele joy Peele joy when my son was born and when this motherfucker licked me. I don't know how to deal with it joy when my son was born and when this motherfucker licked me. I don't know how to deal with it. And then we're on to Lawrence Krause. And I love first of all, I love the way he introduces Krause because he's like in June at 2016, I interviewed Lawrence Krause. And he kind of says like theoretical physicist, you know, so it's just a theory But he actually says in as he's setting this up. He says now Unfortunately, I was I was limited to only asking questions, but I'm like what were Were you gonna lick him? I mean what was the other thing you wanted to be able to do?

I wanted to play charades, but everyone really shut that idea down right away I wanted to ask him statements. Ah, right. Well, yeah, that's exactly it. I wanted to preach at him for 45 minutes. And so, Ray, baby, look here, I know you listen to all of these. I know you listen to all the everythings to make sure that it's okay and safe and stuff. Ray, don't, here's the thing.

I would have given away, way worse answer than the snowflake thing that Lawrence gave you. Okay? That was brutal. You need to not let smart people talk in your movie, Spartans. Look, I can't, well, you're doing it. And you know what, for what you do, you do it pretty well. But this was, this was not good. You got to fire that at a Dorei. He did not represent you well here, man, because Lawrence, Crown, here's the, and me and Heath were talking about this after we watched the movie. I didn't know that snowflake example, but the snowflake example he gives, he's fucking awesome. He's like, yeah, DNA is super complicated, and it really would look like it's created.

But snowflakes are super complicated, and they're just made by the natural laws of how water works if I can tell you how water works I can make you a snowflake and we all agree snowflakes aren't created and rate just stares at him and cuts the camera away It's like Who's dusty and he has what it is? It's dusty. How do you explain this guy with a flask of color changing liquid? Yeah, and it was super fun just watching Lawrence Krauss like be angry here. Yeah, Ray Comfort's like, oh, so are you open to evidence? Krauss is like, that is our word. You can't say that. Well, but here's the thing like he said, when we first see Lawrence Krauss, he very very clearly frustrated like so you know that

there was like 35 minutes before this of him going okay okay but why would they still have monkeys that out why would those monkeys still have monkeys and and and and so like you can tell by this time like he's like he started this interview with more hair but by the end of it even by the end of it because Lawrence Krause is a really brilliant fucking dude you know so no matter how dumb ray re-packages his question loran's crosses able to get out of it so he makes this point about snowflakes which again yeah like said perfect example here to use

uh... and and it's so good that ray rather than trying to debunk it or refute it there in the moment just cuts to a whole thing where he's like, yeah, that thing they said about the snowflake was pretty smart, huh? Well, we've got some pictures to show you, so that you won't remember that. He said that. Now, here's the reputation he tries to use. The snowflake does not contain information. You see how that makes it different? The DNA. As a matter of fact, in order to try to make this work, he says, you know, the DNA molecule contains specified information, which is not a thing.

Define specified information. My fucking spell check is sure you mean specific. That's not a fucking thing. Yeah, his reputation is basically like, oh, he, but like, one snowflake, but DNA's like a million snowflakes, and everyone knows the laws and polarity, haven't created after. Fuck, I have been a million snowflakes here. God, that's a really good counter-example to what I'm doing. What's more complicated than a million snowflakes?

Uhm, DNA, there you go, right? You found it. Yeah. Editing this section out? Yep, that's it. Yeah, right. End all the solving. All the solving as well, take that hip.

Yeah. I was really shocked that they kept this in, because he's so clearly is getting his ass handed to him here. I maybe already paid for the snowflake stock footage. He also tries to counter him with Bill Gates. Standard to him here. I maybe already paid for the snowflake stock footage Trist to counter him with Bill Gates. He goes Bill Gates who who who's an atheist but never mind says that DNA is also very complex I'm sure I'm sure Bill Gates would agree that DNA is far too complex not to be shed out by Jesus. Pretty sure that guy who single-handedly works towards eliminating perlios on my side of the field. Yeah, even says at one point, the origin is clearly supernatural. I'm

like, by definition, that can't actually be true, even if I grant all your precepts. But also, this is one of these great little, like, you know, just a side of homophobia in the film things where he's just talking, he's once again, he's listing animals and he's like, you know, and God created the giraffes and the turtles and the sharks and the fleas and the dogs and the cats and the humans, both male and female and all of the other living things like, why Ray? Why did you have to point that out? What is your sum of penises? Some without penises. And nothing in between, Erie, Erie still men,

back in school, shootin', look a wee at him. And now we get the atheist nightmare itself, the chicken or the egg question. Oh, and it's so good. The music here is race sneaking around behind Aaron Ra. I I wanted so badly just Aaron to be at a burrito stand somewhere and ready to be like You know bush behind him Well, I love to that like he finds a group of people that agree with him and these are you know I apologize to people who have southern accents

I know that the southern accent doesn't actually make you any Dumber and that that's just a cultural stereotype or whatever. But the first people that he comes across that actually agree with his Argument are the most shit-kicking drunken red necks you can imagine. Well, that's a good question I never thought about that because the chicken have to lay the egg, but the egg had to come from a chicken and the chicken had to come from an egg. Holy shit, man You don't blew my mind right right back to Adam, which I'm like wait I thought we were interviewing athus and he's like no, I got some other people to When you say right back to Adam and the other person goes yes that person very certainly not an athus probably

Well, but but see that's the thing is that like you could, you, you could actually get a biologist to not along with you, because sometimes you would use that as shorthand, right? You know, all the way back to Adam as the back to the first human. And again, there's literally a professor of that in the building next to everybody. Right. He went with this shirtless kid at Coachella instead, but he was gonna do Neil the grass-tice and he was he was He meant you and you can tell because he uses some stock footage of him in a second But so here's the argument and of course we'll remember this one from a matter of faith The the correct argument is that the chicken came first because we really haven't beaten this initial cause

Concept into the ground Enough yet because the egg would have had to be fertilized what it would have had to been fertilized by because we really haven't beaten this initial cause concept into the ground enough yet, because the egg would have had to be fertilized, what it would have had to be fertilized by. Now again, he could have thrown this one to Lawrence Kraus in which in case he would have said a tyrannosaurus, because the modern day chicken is a direct descendant of the tyrannosaurus, you know, the eggs predate chickens by millions and millions of years. He just had one of those as a pet. Yeah, exactly So you're saying every chicken on earth these millions of years

Elves Such a stupid argument Well, and that is literally like he his arguments are not more intelligent than that one Well, he does ask him well then how did air evolve? Who's this? What? He's obviously never seen a transitional air fossil. It's no big deal, but...

Right, well, and then we go through this... Tired bullshit of like, oh, but before it had eyes, how did it see, you know, like, like, what, what good is a half evolved eye? We're gonna trudge through that ground again. Which is so weird for him to point out since the evolution of the eye is so clearly spelled out. Right. Like, there are things that it is harder to see the pathway of, but like, why light sensitive

cells on a fish at the bottom of the ocean are useful? Leads to an eye is a pretty clear pet, so why throw that out there? It's like, I don't know. Why would you even need penetration? And if I were talking to my girlfriend, like, it just doesn't, I know the answer. Well, that's the thing,

like, that's why they need to change up their examples from time to time because yes, we actually do know almost every step in this process. And there are all these remnants in the evolution of the eye where you can see, oh yeah, evolution sure fucked it up here. If it was intelligently designed, it wouldn't be backwards, and I would it. It wouldn't have a blind spot right in the middle of it like that. Whoops.

But then, but instead of dwelling on that, he just moves on to like, oh yeah, how did it breathe before it's lungs evolved? But that doesn't, you don't. And as soon as somebody starts to say, well, you don't understand, then he starts listing animals again. So that dross. He really hits it with the giraffes. He says giraffes a dozen times in this movie. This one I literally had written in my notes, this movie brought to you by giraffes. Go to the atheistillusion.com forward slash giraffes to get three free giraffes Not ads not ad is not a joke about Apple terrible example of an intelligently designed thing all right horrible

Well, okay, I shit you not I did the math at this point. We are currently 21 minutes into this movie in our breakdown. This is the sixth time he has listed animals. Every three and a half minutes he lists animals. So I just just to put that in your fucking mind of it. How I just how frequently we're dealing with this shit. And then like we get the the animals hanging out in pairs montage. Just people who watch race movie got bored. And so we have a sassy fresh music with animals that are straight. Look at these animals. None of them are gay. Do not be gays. These animals are not gay. Trust me. These animals are all straight.

What is so bad for them to accidentally show like a cartoon skunk like Peppy will be you fucking He's a man and she's a woman go for it. Just make sure he gives her the right to have a stripe evolve. I don't know it's like half the full one. You're an idiot. Well, but I do love to how G rated this this like these platonic animal relationships are fucking hilarious I also feel like this should count as the seventh time he listed animals But to give you an idea. Okay, it's not like these animals fit into some point he's making right he just starts showing animals

So you'll look at his at the screen again, and this is how bad it gets this montage literally ends With kittens hugging in a hamper i like that part it's the most reasonable part of the movie well right right now and and the most entertaining so as if we need more proof at this point ray moves on to his next question and this will be the argument from the sun doesn't literally rise and Mirage's don't exist. I don't know unless he's arguing that scientists actually

believe that there's really water on a sunny road down the hill there. I don't see what the fuck he's getting at here. Can you guys help me out? I just just shitting on evidence. This whole thing is about how like all these people have seen evidence and evidence is bullshit. Lira, he's a any magician will tell you not to trust your eyes. Can't trust your eyes and I'm like you can trust your eyes. It's fine. Try, look at my right hand when I'm paulming the card. You can trust your fucking eyes. What you can't trust is your attention, Ray. What have you been paying attention to, Ray? Well, exactly because look it's not like it's not like we figured out what Mirage's were by looking in our hearts Right like it was evidence that God us where we are

But this is also where he like reveals that a bunch of his on the street atheists were never atheists They were woo-god believers. Yes. Like, he's asking these quote-unquote atheists, well what do you think happens when you die? Oh, my energy is reabsorbed by the universe and then I'm reincarnated and I get to be with my puppy. No, you don't count! Oh, if I nod along will you blow me after yoga class? We're talking to me wrong, I went to NYU so I get it.

But I feel like you shouldn't be in the documentary with Atheus in the title. No regrim anems. I love, yeah right, right. Exactly. I love that he goes at one point. Somebody says like, well, God is energy and say and and Ray goes, like an energy drink. You see, you see that silly. My God on the other hand.

Not silly. Man, where man wizard. He's so mad also weird moment of agreement with Ray here where he's like you know people want a simple good like a buffet they just want to take certain parts and leave other parts behind and I was like you're damn right Ray you're damn right and he was like I just like to think about the nice bits and I was like there we go right yeah right right but his point here is is that you it's not enough to just be a good person You also have to hate facts. Yeah, and eat the entire buffet, which is fucking crazy The whole point is that you god damn it. You picked them up

There's also this amazing moment. He's trying he's doing this like God says the atheist is a fool thing but he I don't know why he spirals out in this way it's in the movie and it's wonderfully goes you know the Bible calls an atheist to fool but not like a clan not like a fun little clown gonna make you a balloon animal no no this is a fuck you clan this is a fucking red clan fucking clans at this point I was just like postulating my notes like something happened to ray with clowns dig deeper dig deeper or at least show up at his house

dressed as a clown but this this is where the movie takes a bit of a darker turn to yes it gets darker because like he's very clearly presenting to several of these people and these are young kids These are like 19 20 year old because where he's like you like suck sometimes doesn't it young person still finding his way and not really show What you want to do that's because you're an atheist, you know like you you very clearly see him that like now Praying upon whatever weakness he perceives in these people. Right, which works on everyone, by the way. Like, it's not just an atheist thing. There's always you are broken and the solution is X. That's just the classic con.

The con for everything since ever has been, you know how it feels a little broken to be human? And the person's like, yeah, it does. And it's like, I've got the solution. It's like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna be great. Right, that's it. It's been the pitch since ever. Also, this is where he explains to them that they're an atheist because they love porn and pre-baritile sex. And I mean, yep. Look, I do love those things a lot.

They're just not the cause of my atheism. It's not like I held the Bible in one hand and Assa cures biography in the other. I'm like, Man, man, man, man. One of these is a little rippier than the other. I've been there. Well, I chose correctly. Well, sometimes you have to clean up. You know, you don't want to.

Anyway, so, yeah, but, but like that's literally his thing right here, because he starts talking to everybody about like, you know, look, I know I'm preaching to the choir, because you secretly know I'm writing, you're not admitting it, because you love pulling so much. And that's like, that is his actual argument. And he even has people kind of like nodding along, like, do love porn, so that must be.

Yeah, but to be fair, like one of the kids is on like a drug vendor, he's clearly like, clearly, clearly like handy flipping and he's like, yeah, totally God, blows a menthol into my nose. Awesome. Yeah, you got that guy to agree with you. Congratulations. What's fucking spinning poi while Ray's talking to him? Hey, man, stay back. Yeah, but do you admit that God exists?

Yeah, man, we're all love. Well, and then he starts trotting out some ridiculous for-ray comfort arguments where he's like saying, how could food be delicious without God? But it's a pretty auntie. The sun is warm, isn't it? Those are his actual arguments. He actually says at one point, he's like, think about

how much radiation is coming off the sun. And there's actually just enough reaching earth to ripen tomatoes. You know, like tomatoes were a thing that already existed and they had to be just right for the set. Like, no, Ray, that's what your side thinks happened. Yeah. Also, Bird's tree is eggs and bacon. He presented that argument as well.

It's important. I think you're skipping. I feel like you were leaving out part of his argument Well, right. No, I didn't mention bacon specifically. You're right. You're right. I also love here like it as though he's just trying to T. S up for it You know after asking somebody how much they love pornography. He says am I touching a raw nerve? He does he literally does no right that's not what you touch Ray I'll I'll show you next time you show up to one of the atheist gatherings. I'll walk you through it Man, we can touch rudder it and then you'll figure it out

Do you ever get into dental porn? Whatever. It's fine Good stuff. I love the way that it very much seems at this point in the movie like raise entire motivation His entire career is built around the guilt that he still has about touching his winky when he was 14. So yeah, so basically, and then we get some Bible quotes about how evil people don't believe the Bible. And I think he, if I'm not mistaken, the argument he presents to kind of close this segment off is, you know, the Bible says we're all terrified of death. How could it possibly have

known that? It's never even met you. Hey, what did you know that I'm, how would it know that I'm closing myself all from other people, huh? Yeah, we're right. And like one of the atheists even says to him, I was like, well, come on, man, none of us really know what happens to us after we die. And he goes, I do, I know 100%. Well, that doesn't, but just the fact that you asserted it doesn't count, it does count because I stopped listening and now I'm going, la, la, la, la, and that my fingers in my ears. And I'm coming back to Stephen Avery, so it was fun.

And this is the book I gave them. Right, well, yeah, we jump right into an advertisement for his book. Okay, so this book that he's been trotting around the whole time saying, eh, you see this book with all these lovely caliphates in it? You think this book is just coming into existence all by itself? And it's his book, so if nothing else, he proved that a book can come into existence without an intelligent designer. Oh, but here's the amazing moment. This book is all about the stuff that scientists have created that's based on nature.

And rather than being like, how awesome is science, it's like, fucking scientists can't even make a wave. Yeah, right, right exactly. Look how long it took them to figure out flight. good got that shit on the first try I assume This is the part with Kelly Slater, right? Yeah, this team makes an artificial wave Right yes, so is he saying that like water can't have shapes unless someone Invented all of geometry first Invent all of geometry first Yes, okay, so the argument he's presenting here is he's like look this professional server had a whole team a scientist Trying to make a wave and it took him all this about a time

But they couldn't even make the water on their own It's like yeah, they could have but there was already existing water so they use that but but but his point is basically like It took all these scientists all this time to make this one tiny little pussy of a wave think about how many God makes every day Well, maybe a lot, but not Christian On makes waves like three levels and them whatever and also Ray at no point points out in this like a look how great the earth is he's never like and look at this eyeball eating bacteria Right your brain and then fucking frozen tundra that you can only be on for 30 seconds Then your freeze solid or your teeth that fucking kill you like well You never really like he constantly brings this up and you must imagine one of these teenagers at some point was like

Oh dude, what about AIDS and he's like right? Yeah, we can get to punishment in a little bit Yeah, he's not gonna avoid the subject. But instead at this point, we get what I can only describe as a fun things to do in Nebraska commercial. He transitions from things God made into F1 sports cars and dogs doing obstacle courses. That's literally in there. Like this is a montage of things. That is the connective tissue in this montage. It is that they all represent things that can be seen or done. This part was awesome. So many things like happening. I want to stock footage of Heath running through the obstacle course right behind the dog.

How you doing, dude? I'm a good, dude. I'm a good, dude. Well, I was pretty good at that, I thought. So all I'm like a motherfucker. Well, I guess random stock footage they hadn't used yet is the closest thing we're gonna get to a transition So we're gonna call that the end of act 2 and pause for a much needed break But before we do let me give act 3 the hard sell here

Can nothing create everything? Why are there still monkeys? Well then where do you get your morals? Find out the answers to these questions and more when we return for the impolite berating that caps off the atheist delusion hey fellas you want to be in a movie uh sure yeah okay so omray who are you guys and what do you do uh okay i'm heath and uh this is Noah yeah and we produce a couple of atheist podcasts for living oh well that was fun thanks for your time Hi there fellas, you wanna be in a movie? Sure do. Yeah, yep.

So I'm Ryan, who are you guys and what do you do? I'm Heath and he's no one. And we work at a Chick-fil-A. Wait a second. You sure you aren't the last two fellas except with mustaches and glazes? We are sure of that. Yes, we are not nose. Okay. Okay. No, she's gonna be sure. Devil tries to trick you. So are you two atheists? We are yeah. All right. All right. So how do you explain this book here? The you you brought it here exactly exactly So You brought it here. Exactly. So, do you masturbate to pornography? Why are your hands so deep in your pockets right now?

Can it stall and answer the question? Do you masturbate to porn? Yes. Yes. Yeah, you love porn, don't you? Don't you? Yeah, I do. It's wonderful. Did you see how that prews Jesus died for your sins? I do not. Nope. No, not even a little. Ah, it doesn't matter. I've got you on camera saying yes, I do and yeah, that's all I needed. Have a good one, fellas. Hey, you mother. I'll lick you.

Ray comfort away! and we're back to the breakdown when we last left our hero he was vamping for time with a montage that demonstrated the category of nouns and verbs but of course atheists don't believe in puppies doing obstacle of courses or jogging on sunny days on the beach they believe in dice rolls and devouring the flesh of babies. So we see some dice rolling because some stock footage costs more than others, apparently. So the argument we're going to get to here is, you know, like, well, it's the same stupid fucking argument, but basically he presents at this time as like atheist believe that it's just a coincidence that 0.0000000000000000001% of the universe supports life and that life happens to be on that percent. He also has this great moment where he describes us as

uh... Numea and Hamlet, they shake their tiny fists at God and I wrote my notes. I do not have tiny fists. I'm willing to prove that Ray We have offered we have made like actual like genuine registered letter type offers to demonstrate the size of atheist fists array as I grab whoever I want you should see me But yeah, basically this section is the argument from cows are made of meat and that's way too big of a coincidence Unbelieve it, he even says here he's like he's like naming off basically he's going full Quran right because he's going like this Would to build houses and then there's boats no fuck that's the other guys that's the other guys So then there's cows this cows and pigs well I'd eat them too and a certain point I thought he was just fucking with Eli because you knew he was a vegan.

Oh and Bacon's delicious yeah and goat cheese you remember goat cheese it's so tart fantastic you don't know what you got till it's gone huh has that soy cheese your fat fat. Oh you work out every day you look like mashed potatoes you look like mashed fucking potatoes anyway expect to the atheism movie that'll teach you to lick me. I feel Jewish now. I love that. Yeah, that that's more concerning to him than his late and homosexuality at this point. He even says at this point that cows give us ice cream. And I'm thinking to myself, did you see a cartoon maybe where they were in Alaska and you thought that's how it worked? I, how God. And then of course we closed

this little bit off with him going, and how awesome is God to give us all of this plus the ability to reproduce heterosexually? Exactly. Also, there's a weird moment here. He does the like, yeah, he let us reproduce. Also, did I mention how scientific the Bible is? Like, he just transitions exactly into that, like the Bible's full of scientific facts. Like bats or birds and rabbits chew their own cudd. This high equals three. Oh, no, no, no, not that stuff. Leviticus says you have blood. Well, okay. So let's, if you don't mind. Okay. So first he goes full bill O'Reilly only uses the seasons instead of the tides. You know, he's like if it was science, don't you think sometimes it would be went in and then autumn and then spring and then summer?

You know, or whatever, just like clockwork, never a miscommunication. And then he points out that a lot of people die, which somehow bolsters his argument. Yeah, he goes back to that a bunch of times. Yeah, 55 million people die, yeah. If you're a million, millions of people die, yeah. And they're designed to die.

That's what I'm saying. What I'm telling you is there's 54 people, it's right on a clockwork, it's a fantastic thing. I'm super happy about it. And then we get to the argument of how many scientific facts you can find in the Bible that weren't discovered until thousands of years later and I don't know about you guys but I got out my pen and paper went hmm all right let's have some fun with this.

Oh he's got some good ones. Okay now I counted four if I missed any of them, let me know. The first is that the earth is the best one. Hangs upon nothing. Okay, well, it's a sky hook. Everybody knows that, right? You're saying you're a sky hook atheist? Prove me wrong. Prove me there's no sky hook. Yeah, right. He does not. Right. Then he says, so that's one. That's the whole fucking thing the earth hangs upon nothing not it wouldn't you know you could describe gravity if you actually outside but whatever then he says and you know what it says to wash your hands before you eat that's a scientific fact you should wash hands also and I want to interject here you hand washing is not soap and water for 30

seconds to the tune of Happy Birthday. Right. It is cast a magic spell while you've got a weird jar thing and you'd like pour over your hand. Like, talking to me wrong, I'm sure this blew the fuck out of sheep herders minds to like put water on your hands that didn't turn you into a witch or whatever the fuck people thought back then.

But it's not handwashing. It's not the, the, the, the process, what's that thing that they use that like surgeons have to go through the process of X that like super intense hand scrub that they have to do before a surgery. That's not described in Leviticus. It's like, and then you should put some water

on your hands and have some coolgal. And didn't Jesus contradict that later? And he like, oh, yeah, it's no big deal. You can fuck him with not much hands. You can come all over, it doesn't matter. Oh, me and Jesus agree on yet another thing. Well, crazy. Why you wash your hands if you go to the bathroom?

What is he, shit on your hands? He's shit on your hands. You making me feel guilty. I don't want to wash my hands. I'm over here pantomimeing washing my hands. So I'm gonna be drinking. I know that. Because I won't actually do it So I won't actually do it.

I won't actually do it just because you gilded me into it, but I will pantomime doing it. Yes. So and then OK, so as if this wasn't enough, he then says, and the Bible says that the earth is round. And I'm like, it wasn't a jukebox playing, but one stopped anyway. Also not round

Let me go all right right no no no it's not but so I had to Google this to see what a bullshit apologetic site ray had been reading So what this refers to apparently is that in Isaiah 4022 They referred to quote the circle of the earth There's another thing and I think it joked it's even worse, that's even less specific or whatever. But yeah, the circle, not the globe or sphere of the earth, that's basically it now, it repeatedly talks about the edges of the earth as a literal place in the Bible too.

And just remember the last time someone handed you an orange and was like grab it by the edge. Exactly. Doesn't exactly work that way, but yeah, but apparently circle of the earth was God's way of coding in knowledge that was not useful in the discovery. And that's the other thing, right? Like the point where there's the Corona, the Bible, whoever presents this argument or whatever and says, oh, there was all these scientific facts that they couldn't have known about

back then. If they have the knowledge, they could have given it to you, right? They could have presented it in such a way as to make an argument in favor of it or to show you that it's the truth. If you have to retro-dict it, that just either means that it wasn't there in the first place ding, ding, ding, ding, or it means God is such a dick that he could have just told us the earth was round at any fucking point, but he had to sneak it in there and what in such a way that we wouldn't be able to make any sense of it Until after we'd figured it out on our own. Yeah, and what's so funny about this is like this is the only instruction manual that Christians are willing to give this level of benefit to the the doubt with. If you're IKEA manual was just like a long boring genealogy with some weird

indications that it's okay to make people and then you were supposed to read into it, how to build shelves, you'd be like, hey Swedish people, you need to cut that shit the fuck out. What are you talking about? It's so clear, you can make the Klingershmerk. And finally, biblical scientific fact number four, this one comes to us from Leviticus, so you know it's going to be good. The life of the flesh is in the blood. How could they possibly know that when you cut flesh that stuff that runs out of it until you die has the life in it? Yeah, but that's where all the life is.

And what the fuck does that even mean? What did they think it was just in there like what was the counter idea that Leviticus was disproving like no no that's just like the juice that's just in there. It's like coconut water. It's for hippies. And I really wanted somebody to just keep going with Leviticus here and be like doesn't say anything else in there. I want to keep reading for a second No, that's where the book ends.

No Oh no, I dropped my boi boi I'm gonna show you the rest of it And now it's time to talk about hell Well yeah, right so with the argument from Well, yeah, right. So with the argument from Rill still echoing in your head We get the scary music Well, while he asks all of these atheists do they think that hell exists?

most of them don't I Reiterate most of them don't Music note here. Fuck there's wolves in this Tomb Raider level. I hate wolves music note here, fuck, there's wolves in this Tomb Raider level, I hate wolves! Right, so most of them are like, no, don't think hell exists and his counter argument is, but what if someone murder rapes your mom? And one of them is like, okay, I'm listening. How did that help? What? How did that help? What? Yeah. Well, okay.

And so my, what I thought was we were going for a, so you're in favor of your mom's rapist going free, but no, his argument seems to be, well, why would you think somebody raping your mom deserves to be punished if there wasn't a God to tell you that? Yeah. It was basically people deserve to be punished, you know, for murder raping your mom or believing in the wrong God fucking to you. You know, all sorts of stuff that are all on the exact same level. Moving on. Yeah, how would you know murder rape is a bad thing?

Okay, I'm a Christian now. That's what the reason. Exactly. And if that's, if it's not quite Getting home for you here. We do talk about the Holocaust as well Such that he can say are you saying that Hitler isn't in hell you Nazi? So and then we go into Ray Comfort's patented do you think you're a good person bit? Which is where we will basically stay for the rest of the fucking movie.

Now if you saw Audacity or anything else Ray Comfort's ever done, you've seen this bit, right? This is where he asks if you're a good person and then you say, yes, I'm a good person. He's like, have you ever said OMG? And there's a, yeah, if you ever wanted to be band-a-kit with a lady, yeah, oh, well, then you're a blasphemy-mean-lying Hitler. Yeah. Yeah Then you hit like you understand

But we both know that I'm not Hitler so why why doesn't your god not know that I'm not Not the point those are words that you've allowed me to apply to you now say now you have to act like your Hitler. Come on, put on my shoes. I'm not scared. Put it on. He is your little hat. That's Charlie Chapey. He is your little Hitler hat. So now, I want to point out to the audience, just so that you're clear that we didn't, you didn't accidentally hit the fast-forward

for a minute's button or anything like that. We literally just went from, you remember Hitler, right, and the Nazis, and just vivid descriptions of hanging children with extra small news So it would hurt more to have you ever told any lies at all have you ever stolen music on the internet same thing limewire.com brought to you by Hitler There's this amazing moment again tiny little moments. It's so good. This, uh, he's talking to this one guy at one point and he's like, yeah, I look at

pornography. And the guy's like, no, never. And he's like, you've never looked at pornography. And he's like, I have a girlfriend now. I don't look at pornography anymore. And I was like, yeah, buddy, I don't look at pornography anymore. You're right. You and me both. Oh I also love the little fat 15 year old kid that he gets where he's just like you have a look at porn and the guys like Um, I feel like no, no, I have and he's like have you ever lied? He's like yeah, just now about to porn He also comes across a Catholic at one point. That's just terrifying to Rey. He goes, are you a Christian and he goes, I'm a Catholic. And he's like, oh shit.

You get born again or you're fucked. The Catholics, the fake one. The dance is no. Just say no. Unless you're like a me. What am I? Oh god, I don't know what I am. Like I couldn't really do, am I a peep-dist? I'm not gonna peep-dist.

But I could also be a panic hostile. Good, I could be a candle-like. I am the only one I am. I never talk about what I am. I just say Christian. Yeah, right, because obviously mine is the right one. And also, at one point here, when he's going through his, oh, well, you're a blaspheming lion, hell raising, Hitler or whatever.

One of the atheists actually, who is so very clearly almost too stone to do this, but not quite, he goes like, well, are you telling me that God made me broken and then got mad at me for being broken? And he goes, yep, that's what I'm telling you. Yeah, you got on excellent. Great.

We're right to the praying with this one. Seems like he's got it all figured out. That's it. We also get that parachute thing, which his argument was not becoming a Christian is like believing in a parachute instead of wearing a parachute, right? Is that what he's saying?

Yeah, but he comes back to this later and his exact words when he comes back to it is, hey, when you've jumped out of an airplane, you don't want to just believe that there's a parachute. You want to have faith in the parachute. And I'm like, no, no, you want to have evidence that parachutes are a thing. Or can you just not jump out of planes maybe? I feel like that's an option, no. Thatism right there yeah here you go and now for some reason again in his own movie Ray lets people bring up the problem of evil and he thinks it's solved because he's already established that those people burn in hell. Yeah, he basically says free, the solution to problem of evil is free will, but it's

okaysies because God punishes him. It would sort of be like the minority report cops if they didn't stop any of the crimes. They were just always waiting outside like, no, you fucking suck Come on time to go to jail That's what God is like God is like a bad Tom Cruise think about that Tom Cruise is a bad Tom Cruise She converted to not murderer we could have been a very bad hope not converted to not murderer. We could have stopped. But your asshole, you're not converting to not murder. Jerk. Especially if we had told you that we existed at some point and proved it. Yeah, and then we get the argument for you can't stop yourself from blinking and you have to pee.

How could God not exist if you have to pee? Check and mate. I don't, he even, this is, this is something that he actually has this is a paraphrase This isn't the exact question, but he actually asked someone how they could be a specific height without God What is the other option? Yeah, you might change you wake up one morning your tool is heath You wake up the next you lose send it nobody wants that nobody wants that you got to buy different paints every day cool is the one that keeps you up firm five foot full and see you just blinked the argument for flinching right there staring

contest with God go he'll just appoints out that you don't want to die you're not a dog dogs apparently apparently do wanna die. And this is where my wife left. She was like, dogs also don't wanna die in the bathroom. That was Anna's line. You going to hell for thought crime. She was like, eh, I've heard that. But don't want to die.

No, no, no. He seriously did have this moment where he's just like, he's like, you don't wanna die, do you? You're not like a cat or a dog. And I'm like, what are they? Does your dog do idea you know like a cat or a dog and I'm like what are they do you do your dog cut I feel like your dog cuts if you're not picturing Noah's Wilford Brimley cat listening to Johnny Cash's heart you're not the only one. Oh look at my butthole.

He does love that song. So there's also this weird like semantic I can can't even, I won't even call it an argument. The semantic thing where he's going like, well, you have a human being and that means that you recognize your being. Therefore God, right? Right? Is that, does that, does that make sense? Right. No. And now we learn something that I was very excited about, which is that if you go to court and someone pays your fine, you can leave. Now look, I had sex with some bread at a grocery store and Andrew's trying to work that out for me.

And I have learned the hard way that is not true. Nope. It's not. No matter how much I tried to tip them. Yeah. So basically, like just when you're thinking to yourself if only someone had died for all these sins of mine We learn that indeed someone has but we have to get it from the like Legislative point of view I guess yeah

We also get the argument that doing good things doesn't matter. Literally that's presented here. Raven Simone pops up, there's a little clip of her and she's like, on her show with four or five other women, she's like, so religions are just all about being a good person, right? It's just that's like all the religions that they have that in common. And like two of the other women, the Christians on the panel are like, no, actually that is not how we run it. It's grace through faith. Nothing to do with being a good person. Doing good things does not matter in Christianity.

No, right. Maybe don't brag about this part. Maybe just again, cut this with craft's part. No, it's, oh God, yeah, being good is useless. Pray comfort. And I just want to point out that like really, look, if your formulation is thing X is more important than being a good person, it doesn't really matter how you

solve for X. This is a bad action. Yeah. Thing X needs to involve things that keep you alive to be a good person. If you want to do a thing. It needs to be like breathing or blood flow. Well, also I love this because there's this bit where he's like trying to introduce Jesus to the conversation. So we get like him and his man on the street interview is going like, would you believe me if I told you someone died for your sins? Can you tell me what Jesus did for you? Jesus blanked for your sins.

Can you tell me what it is? And all the people are like oh Yes, Jesus was the allied is it allied I feel like it was a pendulum with a hacky sack The pendulum behind your back and that comes like a windmill some people call it a windmill It's also this amazing moment He's he's doing the Hillary Clinton thing of like trying to make something work when he can't he goes, it's cold grace and it's amazing.

Huh? You know right. It's like this song. I'm amazing. Spotted man. I'm in the kitchen. Coming in. Kitchen.

Good asleep. And this is also, this was the part that made me the manus of this movie. This is where he explains that like, because the one guy's like afraid he'll be bored in heaven, which is just this stupid objection to heaven ever. Like even the juice figured that one out, we didn't need modernism to figure that, but he's like, oh no, the harpsil get boring and raise like, no, no, heaven easing hops, it's here on earth and no one will get sick and no one will die and we'll just all laugh each other and stop metering each other and riping each other and I'm like, oh, so you mean earth, if you people leave us the fuck alone.

So far, we're crushing it on the not dying, not getting sick, not raping each other thing. You're the ones who fuck that up. Right. You're the ones who quote Luke and then let your kid die of maple syrup. I'm not, I'm my side's doing the work. Right, and so he's bragging that God's gonna fix the problem of evil in like 10 minutes.

Well, I'm gonna fucking asshole. He even says at one point when he's describing, having, he's like, no more kids getting molested I'm like why would you bring that up? Exactly and then we get okay, so Through this George pal Idiot so and throughout this movie we've been gotten all of these like you know the atheist that he's talking to on the street And like I said all but one of them is like 19 you know, the atheist that he's talking to on the street. And like I said, all but one of them is like 19 years older, younger.

But the other one is this older guy who I am absolutely certain was a plant. Oh, most certainly. The guy, because this is the guy that has the, like, I think I'm a Christian now moment with him, but like the guy even at one point when, when Ray comfort is asking him, he's like, you know, how silly would you think if, if somebody thought that a book could just come together by itself the guy actually says well that would be like a tornado blowing through uh... uh... uh... uh... junkyard putting together a seven forty seven that's the actual example uses

so we're supposed to believe that that guy hasn't read the literature on bull shit creationism right it's it's not just him literally everyone is now like I'm no longer an atheist I'm no longer an atheist. I'm no longer an apricot Whatever ends this conversation Just give me back my longboard Yeah, we have a friend who gets hit by cars by car yet

we have a friend who gets hit by cars yet from something up his argument in the section is basically did uh... did i rate comfort totally win this argument and explain how um... the fact that books are binded makes me win and it's like yes yes god's not dead you know i'm going to the news boys concert and i just wanted so bad for somebody to be like,

okay, no, I think you're right. I'm gonna pledge allegiance to Muhammad. Yeah, right. Also, he instantly turns into my mom, which is my mom's like, you need to go to the doctor and I'm like, I'll do it and she's like, when are you gonna do it? And I'm like, oh, mom, I was just being nice by saying

I was gonna do it. I'm not even coming. What's Wednesday look like for you? I got a recording every day. Every day forever. I so funny I wrote the exact same thing except for instead of my mom it said my Eli so. But I just want to point this out okay because I have never seen this outside of a Ray Comfort movie and I have never seen a Ray Comfort movie without this. In every movie he does there is a montage of people telling him he makes sense. Yeah.

Right, like, he, and not volunteering that information, just agreeing with him when he says it, because there's this whole montage of people going like, he's going like, now, did the stuff all I say just now, make any sense? And I was like, okay, yeah. Like, yes, yeah. Yeah. did the stuff i say just now make any sense and i was like uh... you have to be okay yet yes uh...

but yeah and clearly old guy is going to be christian now uh... because he thinks rea smarter than the average bear and i i i i i love to because the guy at this point he goes like you know you're a perfect stranger how could you care so much about me? He goes like well, I'm a Christian we're based on love not like some of them other religions No, no gonna name any names, but it rhymes with Baselam T. Erty Baselams Yeah, saying anything just saying yeah

If you would a band triggers if you will If you would a band triggers if you will Can't it too far I think that's not too far listening to it I forgive myself And Scotland and now you're just you're Perling he doesn't know where so always he was like Baris and everyone believes are you not embarrassed? They're all gonna talk on it. You're gonna just keep talking about it. I would be every time It makes me very ashamed. It's fine. I got the last word so now everybody agrees to go to church

Because anything would be better than continuing this conversation They're like they're all like he like, can I pray with you? And they're like, this is the last thing though, right? This is the last. And then I get to go and not feel like an asshole. It's like eating with your aunt, your crazy religious. It's like, I just want to say grace. And you're like, cool, but we get to eat afterwards, right?

You're not going to do like a thing. We, it's you talk to your friend, and then we all get to eat. Oh my god What if all of these people were male prostitutes? Right, like just hear me out. Okay. I mean there was a couple of women But it was mostly it was mostly like young guys who looked like they had drug problems You know and and what if all of them had just been he to hire them all through a service through an escort service And they're like when do we fuck I am gonna I'm like I'm I'm I'm I've I've I've stalled myself for sucking your cock at this point I don't know how long I how much longer I can hold on to that feeling now I'm looking forward to sucking your cock

Literally I just want to know Congressman choked me to death like I died I died and then he's that me back to life yesterday And that was a way better than this So you could put a bag over my head and call me your dad's name. We were getting a thing rolling I've got some math to enjoy And I love to like the guys that like let him pray with them like his prayer is like Dear God help these people be as awesome as me. Yeah, really?

Essentially. Let him be a Christian, let him grow a sweet, sweet beard and wear ray bends in public and inside, sometimes inside, because everyone knows you're like a cop. You're like a cop for souls. Amen. Amen, of course, this. Amen, amen.

Can I have my burrito back now? Later, Augustus. Go to convert it first. Yeah, so now we say the same stuff some more, but this time in civil shepherd focus, you know, like, I love to, he's got this line like where he's like, quoting from the Bible and he's like, hey, look and is like hey look at that the Bible Also said delusion. How would the Bible if no we were gonna name our movie that? Huh?

That's it. There's no way back then we hadn't even decided we haven't even got the website Yep, and then a rando comes out and tells you that you can get these DVDs for a doll out and tells you that you can get these DVDs for a dollar. That's really it. I want to point out again, this is a free video on YouTube that at the end says, we will sell you this thing cheap too. But see, like everything else Ray Comfort does, this is when it reveals itself to have just been an infomercial, right? This whole thing is just a way to sell you

the four-hour course with Ray Comfort on how to convince Atheist to stop being Atheist like he did in the movie. No, it's just Ray Comfort slap-chopping bananas. Yeah. Oh, we need to do that four-hour course Yeah. We need to do that four hour course. That might have to be a mini-series. Yeah, right. I'm gonna pay the full dollar. Oh, shit. So, okay.

So we're gonna keep the clothes short and sweet, guys. The advertising for this movie said atheism destroyed in one simple question. So, are either you still an atheist at the end of this? Well, I'm certainly not giving up porn so denial it Decided and Eli. Well, we never talk about it on the show But I really believe in energy and the fact that we're all connected

I've just sort of been you know, it's the title of the show. We're all cool with that right? I love you guys are look at me weird. And I can't believe that we didn't bring this up at all in the review. But I love that the argument that Ray, like basis, his entire world view on, is that most people would sacrifice the concept of living forever for porn. Now, I know maybe most of the people on this call would do that.

I've got some good stuff. You like Amy, you're a whole library. Good stuff anyway. All right, one last question. Are you guys still fornicating blaspheming lying, stealing idolaters? Oh, and proud. Awesome. I am not.

I'm actually a truthful, fornicating blast. Oh, yeah. And I used to stick to it when you asked him about the soho. Or whether it's okay to stab a dead body. Blind? Idolator. Forshadowing. Yeah, yeah.

That's a pre-callback again. Everybody loves the pre-callback, so we keep doing them. And while that does it for our review of the Atheist delusion. That's not gonna do it for the episode just yet, because we still need a T-shirt over next week's selection. So Eli, tell us, what's on deck? Holy man undercover. And holy man undercover, am I ready for this shit, dude?

Like, it's been a rough month, honestly. Like, the movies we watched have been really really fucking rough And this is exactly what I need yeah It is all the terrible of like late 90s early 2000s wacky schmacky comedy with David A.R. White's racism in multiple roles Yeah, multiple he he any Murphy's as an Amish boy come to LA to save souls and his wacky drug addicted uncle who's trying to make it in show business. Fantastic. It's the nutty professor at Liberty University. I'm very excited.

The nutty profilitizer. Yeah, that's it. So with the nutty profilitizer. Yeah, that's it. So, with the nutty profilitizer to look forward to, we'll bring episode 64 to a merciful close. Once again, a huge thanks to all the Patreon donors that helped make the show go. If you'd like to count yourself among their ranks, you can make a per episode donation at patreon.com slash god awful. And thereby earn early access to every episode. You can also help us a ton by leaving us a five star review on iTunes and by sharing the show with all your various social media platforms.

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episode. Thanks again for giving us a chunk of your life this week for Heathen right Neely Bosnick. I'm no illusions promise in a work hard to earn another chunk next week until then we'll leave you with a breakfast club close. He didn't know we're Sahe Walsh. Eli's lying. Ray Comfort went to hell for mind-porticating with Eli ever since Reason Rally, and Eli's lying about the Saho thing. The old guy with the jowls did kill himself because of the atheism. All of the straight animals went on to live good Christian lives. Or take your part now, man.

The enemy can't do the Ely was lying about the so-ho, damn. And truck by coming. So I'm right. What are you guys? And what do you do? Well, I'm heave.

Sorry, you want to give that one more time to move forward. Next time, too. So I'm right. What are you to give that one more time to do so I'm right you guys We're gay lovers Ray we just I was gonna say you fucked up I mean I'm on what species he is I've heard it I started watching my movies trying not to leave them You know any birds that want to be in the movie I want them to be a part of it feel welcome The preceding podcast was a production of Puzzle and a Thunderstorm LLC copyright 2016 all rights reserved be in the movie, I wouldn't come to be a part of it. Feel welcome.

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