Going Deep with Chad and JT - Ep. 111 - Holidays, Being Bummed, Nick Jonas' Arrogance

Episode Date: January 10, 2020

Chad and JT discuss their holidays, JT's mental state, and Nick Jonas. Check it out!

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John Thomas, what up? Boom clap, Stokers. And we are back in the studio following the holidays. Yep. How you living? Rough. Having a tough time? Yeah.

You want to talk about it yeah i think so i think it's good to talk about it um i mean you saw me at work today i was like i don't think i said more than five words yeah it was that same holiday stress where you're kind of like oh everybody's kind of in my business and everybody kind of does things that aren't my favorite, but it felt normal. But then they left and it was just my girlfriend and I hanging out by ourselves. And I thought that would be ultra relaxing. And it wasn't. I was having panic the entire time, basically. I mean, some periods were nice.

We went snowboarding for a day and like we get dinner, but I just, but more often than not, I was either fighting back panic or it was taking me over. But the one thing that helped was I was doing meditating. I was doing the Calm app. Yeah. And they got some great stuff on there that really did help me out. Yeah. That's nice you didn't have to resort to other methods, sort of the more destructive methods.

methods, sort of more destructive methods. It was kind of something that's probably tougher to do, but in the long run, it'll keep you more at peace. And then today was like just total hypochondria because my feet are really cold. Are they still cold? Yeah, they've been like cold and numb. And I went to urgent care and they did the reflex test and the left one wasn't responding to being popped with a little hammer. When was that?

A couple of days ago. Okay. So I'm like convinced that I have some kind of like horrible muscle neural disease like ALS or Parkinson's or something. I don't think that's the case. Yeah, it's pretty rare. And I was looking it up constantly today like ocd style on google and then uh yeah i'm just been wearing myself out yeah and just uh and yeah looking forward to being through it is there did you take some kind of test or are you waiting for like results or are you just kind of no the doctor was just like yo i

think it'll i think it's your back because i worked out i was i was in wyoming and i was feeling stressed so i started working out like extra hard yeah and uh he thinks i just overdid it and hurt my back and then that tweaked the the communication between my spine and my feet right yeah i'm sure you're fine i mean you're up and moving so no i, I worked out for like an hour a couple days ago, like hard. Yeah. And I don't think that's possible if you're really struggling with the things I'm talking about. But I've just been... When you're convinced, though, that you're like...

When you have some kind of symptom and you just don't know what it is, that's the worst anxiety. and you just don't know what it is yeah that's the that's the worst anxiety plus i think the fact that it's your feet and not you didn't have you didn't like faint or something no where it's it's you know you're up and moving you're moving around it's probably not i feel like you haven't had any other kind of difficulties in life physically i got stomach pains and i twitch a lot but all those things can be like anxiety related right i think i just have sky-high anxiety yeah yeah you'll be okay thank you man thank you means a lot just gotta work through it yeah i just gotta spread it around i can't i can't put all my need for support on one person well i mean you were you were in wyoming for like 10 days yeah 11 days 11 days i

mean that's a long time then you're up in the snow and i feel like it's when you're not really doing anything in the snow it's like you feel kind of trapped so yeah i've decided i don't like nature yeah i don't like calm serene nature i respect people who do yeah i was like i need people living on top of me i need noise i need helicopters yeah i need this you know competitive rat race in los angeles to feel uh healthy yeah i need to be in a place where i feel like i can advance my career yeah you can't really do that on half dome it's tough yeah i guess you can make a phone call, but I mean, come on, but you don't feel as like engaged with your purpose.

Yeah. You don't feel it. I'd be, that's why I love being in LA. I recently as, as a, as we've gotten older and whenever I leave LA, I get a certain anxiety where I'm just like,

I can't, um, unless I'm going to like Hawaii or something and like Hawaii or I went to the Caribbean, you can disconnect a little bit, but there's always a little bit inside of you where you're like, I need to get back to, I need to get back into the race. You know, I need to stay active. I can't, I can't be doing this and drinking eggnog and talking about fucking Star Wars right now. Kind of like, even when you have time off you're like oh i feel like i still could be creating i could make a video right now i could you know so there's always

that kind of a little bit of anxiety no and i'm more eager to make stuff now yeah yeah especially since i have a debilitating disease i want to i want to pump out as much content as possible so my legacy will be solid. You hear about guys like Lou Gehrig and you're like, all right, well, he was the toughest baseball player ever, best first baseman ever, and then he died. Or Stephen Hawking. You're like, they were the best in their field.

You know what I mean? But at this point, I might go down as the Carrot Top with ALS. Carrot Top is very successful. No, I know, I know. God bless him god bless him too i'm sorry i didn't mean to take a shot um he lifts heavy too and he does do you know what's a good thing about sadness though is i think i've read that depression makes you more uh empathetic and realistic right and i have felt that i've been a lot nicer to people yeah since i've been sad that's nice yeah yeah that's a good thing yeah dude my distress i put on my sweet girlfriend sally on new year's new year's

the biggest celebration day she's sick too we had to go to the hospital the night before because she had a cold and uh and i think she was a bit panicky from dealing with my panic and i just look at her and i go, babe, something's off. Something's wrong with me. You got to help me. And she goes, John, I can't help you. I've been helping you all day. I need to relax.

You need to go into the other room and meditate. And I'm going to watch the Jonas Brothers documentary. And I was like, all right, that's how we're doing New Year's. John, my vitals. Babe, my vitals are off. Yeah. I was being rude to the Jonas Brothers, too. I was it you're beefing with him a little bit i think i just contradicts what i just said about being nicer but at this point i was like i was watching every time nick jonas said something i was like fuck you

dude yeah fuck you nick jonas i feel that every day yeah he was presenting at the gold gloves yeah is it just something about him yes yeah it's his fate okay yeah thank you aaron thank you yeah yeah he's he's he's so talented but there's like a cockiness to him and like a cool guy swagger it's sort of what strider was saying about michael b jordan it's the look they both make a face it's like the pouty look where you go like oh yeah it's like he just had a he just bit into a lemon yeah like why yeah michael b jordan does that too he's like like always looking like they're so aware of their sexiness yeah they don't play it cool like brad pitt no nobody plays it as cool as brad brad pitt is so goddamn cool can we talk about that yeah can we just bottle

him up and make him a panacea for the world's issues? Yeah, he's so awesome. Have you guys heard him on WTF yet? No, he's on WTF. With Leo. No way. Yeah, guys, turn off this podcast. Go listen to that and then jump back in. Dude, I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

five times this break. Are you serious? Yeah. Dude, it's 15 hours of cinema. Yeah yeah that's awesome it's just so relaxing to me just watching i don't need story i just need cool dudes hanging out oh that's the ultimate yeah what else do you need just watching cool dudes and then you're like i'm gonna be like that everyone at the at the globes was so heavy-handed and i get why man like this stuff in australia is very scary right yeah it's a terrible our thoughts are with you guys and uh we'll definitely throw up some links so that people can donate um but brad pitt was so uh i don't know just low-key about it like

at the end of his speech which was great he just goes hey guys if you see someone tomorrow be nice to him i think the world needs that. Yeah. I was like, oh, perfectly stated. And he was like turning as he said it. Yeah. Be nice. Be kind.

Guys, come on. He just tossed it in there. Yeah. He should have hit a jukebox and made it start. Oh, dude, yeah. He flips a quarter and it goes right into the slot. It just falls into the slot. Yeah.

Lights come out of it. Yeah. Yeah, he's a beast what what did you think you saw uncut gems what'd you think about that dude i liked it you know i was going into it and i was going to see it because i was i kept hearing about it and like adam sandler's performance i was like i'm gonna go see this but i wasn't that excited to see it because i just knew i read about it and i just knew that the experience is not the most comforting yeah the movie's not supposed to make you feel comfortable right supposed to light your nerves on fire so i knew that going in i was like i don't know if this is gonna be

my type of movie but um we'll see and i i started watching it and i loved it and i loved the the score too i mean i could see I could really feel what they were trying to do trying to accomplish with sort of the gambling addiction and spoiler alert also guys I don't know if I'm gonna say spoiler but I'm just saying that right now um but you really felt what they were going for and his his performance was so was so great and I actually I think the reason why it's doing so well and that it's, is that, and I think only really Adam Sandler could make this character somewhat likable. Right.

You know, he had the, like, he was still kind of a piece of shit, but he had this little bit of charm in him still where you're like, I still kind of like him. Right. Yeah. What'd you think? I liked it. I didn't like it as much as their movie Good Time because. I have to see that.

It was kind of a similar thing where it's like a very anxiety ridden like roller coaster. Yeah. But in that one, he was doing everything to help his brother. Right. So just having that motivation kind of helped me, helped make all of his ugly actions palatable. Yeah. Whereas in Uncut Gems, it's just because he's a an addict and he can't handle like normalcy or whatever yeah yeah and so it felt a little bit more like like when when the

ending happened yeah i was like yeah well of course yeah you know what i mean i didn't feel i didn't care about him as much yeah yeah but i mean i still i like i thought kevin garnett was great he was great i thought his girlfriend is gonna to be a star. Yeah. I forget her name, but she was awesome. Yeah. Julia, Julia something. Yeah, Fox, is it? Something like that. I think so.

She was great. I keep thinking Austin. And then Eric Bogosian was great. Mm-hmm. But, yeah, I wasn't crazy about it, actually. For me, it was like a 7 out of 10. Yeah. I don't know.

I was watching other people in the theater while I was watching it, and you could see how tense everyone was. I just thought it was funny. And then as I was watching it, I was kind of waiting for it to be over. But then I just kept thinking about it. It just stayed in my mind for like three or four days. I'm like, oh, it really had kind of an effect on me. Their films do stick with you.

Hannah said, I saw Good Times with her. And she was like, I've been sad for like three days after seeing them. And then she texted me after seeing this one and she was like, fuck these directors, I can't watch their movies anymore. So they do viscerally impact people. They get inside you. Yeah, and I'm more along the... I love Stoke-inducing movies,

but there was just something about... There's a lot of speed. Adam Sandler. Yeah, and the way he... I empathized with the character because you could really see the sickness in him. And at his heart, he was a good guy. And you like driven characters yeah like characters

you like uh what's the word you like characters that aren't reactive but are proactive proactive yeah oh thank you yeah yeah i do uh yeah i um so i don't know it was uh it was i liked it more than i expected to yeah um do you see anything else have you seen 1917 not yet I really want to see that you saw that right that's a thrill ride do you like it

it's good yeah I watched a lot of stuff over break I watched peanut butter falcon have you seen that I thought it was okay yeah sweet

it was very sweet I thought Shia LaBeouf did a good job yeah he was good in it yeah the ending was I didn't quite understand. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, right. With the whole wrestling set piece. Yeah. Yeah. There's one line in it. Maybe I can remember it correctly, but the guy's like, yeah. They talk about like death. He's like, I might die.

He's like, we're all going to die. But you got to have some cool shit to say about your life before you do. And I don't know what the line is exactly but i was like that fired me up yeah i guess my thing was is that i couldn't understand the guy at the end who was beating up a disabled person during a wrestling match like we're just gonna decide this dude's an asshole yeah yeah i was like i can't imagine someone doing that in front of people as performance. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I feel like that'd be a pretty quick way to turn off a crowd.

Yeah. Yeah. And they're all like, this guy can handle it. He's the best guy for the job. And they're all like, Frank, what are you doing? Yeah. Shut up. Yeah. Like, he's like, I've got some anger.

I got to get out. And you're like, all right. It was a weird ending. Yeah. There was also that movie, Wrestling With My Family, which was a charming movie from this year. I haven't seen it. But in the end of that, it has like a sports movie ending where it's like the big match.

Yeah. And she's like the underdog in the wrestling match to win the championship. Like she can't even believe she's there. But they play it like it's real, but we all know wrestling is, and the movie has played wrestling as if it's fake. Yeah. At least, you know written yeah up until this point yeah and then in the end they just kind of like suspend that yeah i don't understand

yeah where the stakes are because wrestling's fake yeah so i'm not actually worried about her winning or losing this match because it's fake but all right i guess we have to have excitement yeah i watched knives out that was great i love that that was great so good i walked out of that and i was like that was a good movie yeah so fun and the the female lead is the from uh knock knock the eli roth movie oh yeah her first american movie yeah she's yeah she's great she was really good when daniel craig with his accent at first i wasn't on board i was like i don't know if i can if i'm gonna buy it and then like five ten minutes in i was like this is awesome having fun yeah yeah it's just fun which i love that about the movie it's so much fun and big actors all the juicy parts yeah yeah

and i like that everybody was kind of a scumbag. Yeah. I like that. It was just so clever. And the set design, too, was great. Really good. Did you watch Star Wars? No, I haven't seen it yet. That or Little Women. I got to see both of them.

Yeah. I saw Star Wars. And 1917. Those are my three. Yeah. I, um... You know, I enjoyed Star Wars. A lot of people were hating on it, but...

It serviced the fans, and... I gotta see it. That's all... Because... I'm not gonna talk about the new one. But, you know, like, with Rian Johnson's, the second one... I think he's trying to make some bold choices and get a little daring with the story. And I respect him for doing that.

I'm like, with the Star Wars Skywalker saga, I think just please the fans. I don't think you should try to make any bold decisions. I like some of his choices. I like that he made Rey like an ordinary person, but I heard this next one might go back on that. Even from your reaction, I'm guessing that's true. But a lot of it I didn't like. Yeah. I thought the first scene was really exhilarating,

like when Poe is flying over the Star Destroyer or whatever. Dude, I've learned something funny about myself. When I was with Sally, we were deciding what movie to watch next when we were hanging out, and I wanted to watch Locke which is just tom hardy in a car with a welsh accent trying to keep his life together yeah and it's all in real time fucking great movie nobody else really likes it she wanted to watch um like a uh something a little lighter i forget what it was but let's just say it was beyond the lights even though i love that movie and would have wanted to watch it too. But during the negotiation, I took my shirt off.

She says every time I negotiate, I take my shirt off. Like every time we have to decide something, I rip off my shirt. I go, all right, here's what we're going to do. That fires me up. She says it's a power move, but I'm just trying to show that there's no subterfuge, that what you see is what you get. I'm like, I'm negotiating a good faith. trying to show that there's no subterfuge that what you see is what you get i'm like i'm negotiating a good faith well dude i think you you take on this uh the body language is pure

dominance but with empathy and underneath it you know what i mean yes that's what i'm going for yeah that's nice it's like it's like oh this dude's a fucking ape with feelings right yeah i'm like whoa yeah yeah i'll give you 75 yeah but you don't yeah ape would never con you i don't think never yeah never he's just gonna he just wants his bananas too of course yeah and squats gotta do squats i know with this back injury um don't worry dude i'll do an ice bucket challenge for you i I can't do... I can't do... That's nice, dog. Who would be the three people you would...

Who would be the three people you would nominate? I would nominate? Yeah. For some reason, Cuba Getting Junior came to mind. Nice, dude. Aaron. Sorry, I'll refuse to do it. What?

Just make the original Iceberg Challenge. All right. Cuba Gooding Jr., I know he'll do it. He'll do it for sure. Anthony Hopkins. Tony Hopps, baby. That's three. Well, Aaron's not down. Oh, yeah uh jennifer aniston nice yeah yeah

what about you uh i would do who don't want to see cover themselves in water I would do Mark Ruffalo nice Kevin Pollack good call and Steve Guttenberg hell yeah dude

I love that thanks dude did you watch the Golden Globes last night? I did. What'd you think? Dude, Ricky Gervais was hilarious. He was.

He took it to people. Yeah. Yeah. I thought his jokes were great. My favorite moment was, uh, after Renee Zellweger's speech. Uh,

I forget what she was talking about, but she's, I mean, you saw it. She just kept going on. The music was playing and. I didn't see that part. Yeah.

And, uh, she was speaking with like a southern drawl. Is that how she talks? She's from Texas, yeah. She is? Okay. I was like, is she doing a character right now? And then, so she goes on for like however long, and it's just like, what are you talking about? And then Ricky comes up.

He's like, kill me. We're nearly done. That's funny. That was awesome. I watched The Two Popes, that Anthony Hopkins movie. Is that good? It is good. I mean, I grew up Catholic, so it resonated with me.

But the one thing is, it's all about this conversation that these two people have over the direction of the church. And then when they talk about the biggest issue that the church has faced over our lifetime, which was the molestation scandal, the camera zooms out and the sound fades to nothing. So you can't hear what they're saying. So you don't get to hear what benedict's admission or denial is you just get to see francis's like kind of like uh upset reaction to it but i'm like how the like where are your gonads yeah you got to show us what was said yeah you're gonna make up all this other conversation you're not gonna take a swing at the biggest part of the story yeah like come on man how tempered can you be let's go yeah why

do you think they did that i don't know to not alienate people or because the audience yeah maybe they wanted it to be more of like a pg movie and they didn't want to have like just like sick words come out but like if you choose to tell that story sick shit happened you got to talk about it right yeah yeah it. Yeah. It was disappointing. But the acting was phenomenal. And I liked it. That's cool. Yeah.

Should we answer some questions? Yeah. Hmm. Nick. Troubles with female companion. What up, guys? I have a situation that I think love Dr. Strider could have some fire input on,

but if he's not present, you guys will also have some dank advice. Me and this girl have been on and off since the summer, and we're off right now, and we both still have feelings for each other. However, it's mostly been me holding up the relationship because I can't decide what I want. My feelings for her also fluctuate frequently,

but the thought of her with someone else would kill me. How should I handle this situation? Because I really do not know what to do i know i like her but i'm too indecisive to make a decision thanks i mean just date her yeah i think just go for it yeah shit her get off the pot like date her yeah and i don't think that's fair to keep her sort of in this purgatory and plus you said the thought of her with anyone else kills you so i think you want to date her and i don't know what's holding you back maybe it's subconscious but i'd say just go for it take the polar plunge and then

you know see what happens yeah dude i mean i don't think you're too indecisive to make a decision i think you're perfectly situated to make a decision i think you're perfectly situated to make a decision and i think you know what you want to do there's trade-offs with anything but go for it yeah hey bro sorry for the medium-sized message i recently went through a terrible breakup and pretty sure i was cheating on as well long story short my stoke was destroyed i couldn't catch z's or eat much i started listening to dope pod as i was trying to sleep and it worked i slept well well and also felt enlightened when I woke up. I woke up

ready to destroy the day. Thank you so much for what you Stoke gods did for me. Much love you too. Let's smoke doubles sometime. Oh, thanks, man. Oh, thanks, dude. Proud of you for picking yourself up and getting back out into the world and creating Stoke for yourself. That's what it's all about, my dog.

Oh, and dude, guys, so on one of our most recent episodes, we had a friend come on, Tad, and he talked about doing a molly every day. And we don't think you should do that. No. You should not do molly every day. You shouldn't do molly. Right. Don't do drugs.

I mean that sincerely i have done drugs in my past and it was fun but they fucked up my life as well and i can say i'm happier now although i just talked about how depressed i was for the first 20 minutes of the pod um but yeah tad was doing something specific and i don't think people got it completely no but get this completely was doing something specific and I don't think people got it completely. No. But get this completely. Be healthy, be safe, and please do not do Molly. Yeah, we don't endorse taking Molly. What JT said, cultivate Stoke in a healthy manner.

Thanks, dudes. The legends. What is up, Chad, JT, and any potential guests? I want to start off by saying happy holidays and fire ass year for the pod guys. You guys definitely killed and boasted so many Stoker Stoke tank. We're reaching mine. It's all time highest and still waiting to be peaked. The reason I'm writing is because I'm in need of legends' expertise and advice being the helping hand to a Pablo Picasso sculpture.

For the past couple of weeks, I've been talking to and seeing this absolute bae where we met through mutual friends. She's super dope, attractive to talk to, and a hell of a bae that is way out of the league where even my squad can see it. We text DM every day and hung out a couple times and told my boys about it, but they're on my dong about making a move, which I haven't encountered yet. Lately, when we've been hanging out, she always tends to bring up her toxic relationship she had in the past year, where I just be the respectful stoker I am and listen away. I haven't been pushing buttons when we've been hanging out, so I guess I have been taking slow, but do not want to take too slow where the black hole of the friend zone is reached. I have been reached out of my game for two years now, and I am deep in need of you, Mastro's advice, and dank moves to initiate to make a move if it is not taking too fast.

Any advice of what to do in this crucial situation? Appreciate the pod, bros. Hit 2020 with a bang. So he's been hanging out with her as a friend, basically? I think they're interested in each other, but he's worried that interest is going to wane if he keeps waiting to make a move. Right. I'd say go for it.

Maybe ask her out on a proper date. Make your intentions clear and be classy. Be a classy dude. And just be like, look, you know, things are going well. We're jiving. I just got Roman swipes. No, just kidding.

But things are going well. We're jiving. Why don't we go out and get sushi? See where that leads. And, dude, you're going to be nervous when you make your move. That's okay. You don't have to be perfectly suave when you go to kiss someone. If you're a little nervous and you fuck up a little bit, just laugh at yourself afterwards.

And you know what sometimes I do? I talk about what I'm going to do before I do it. I remember one time with a girl I was in love with. I was like, we were hanging out and it was the time. It was the moment I had to make a move. And I just said, Hey, do you want to go back up to my apartment and hook up? And she just stared at me and I was like, what do you think? And then she was like, what do you think? And then she

was like, yeah. And I've tried that since with other women and it's bombed horribly, but if it's right, it'll work. Yeah. Just ask her like, Hey, do you want to make out? I tried it on a date in Texas. The girl was like, don't ask me. But then guess what? We kissed. Dude, I'm all for the asking for the makeout. I remember in college i made made out make out appointments i was like at 7 30 tonight we're gonna suck face yeah do that and uh yeah and also have this in your mind she wants you to make the move yeah don't think that you're gonna like scare her or something just be like no she wants me to make the move so you know what i'm gonna embrace my inner brad pitt and you know flick a quarter in a jukebox and say, what up? Either let's go sushi, let's make out your choice, whatever you think is right.

But make that move, my dog. Make the move. What up, Stokers? I'd like to stay anonymous. I met this girl in seventh grade and we were for four years, but there was always a spark there. We finally started dating when I got to high school at first the relationship was great we could talk all night every night but after seven months came around things started to change it seemed like she would never want to hang out and if we did she'd be upset the whole time we've

broken up for a day or two a few times and every time it got worse but i would beg her to come back because i loved her but it started to feel like she was using me to buy her stuff and take her place all the time eventually i couldn't because I had no more money. Then on Valentine's day, she wouldn't let me take her anywhere. And she didn't even want to say she loved me. The next day she wanted to break up. My first thought was, no, I can't lose her. But I realized me begging her to stay. Isn't going to make it better for either of us. So I agreed. But a few house later, she called me crying to get back together. And I took everything to say now because I wanted that so bad, but it just wasn't right.

She did some real schmo like stuff after the breakup. It's now been over a year and I still can't get over. I've tried everything. I always think of her all the time. It drives me crazy. I don't want her back. I can't even talk to other girls without thinking of her. I need some help dogs.

What should I do? You got lots of options, man, but don't get back together with her for sure. I mean, dude, you just got to take some healthy action, you know, start, are you working out, you know, do that. That'll make you feel better. And then you'll, you'll look better to, um, work on your career. You know, are you in a job you like, are you trying to move forward in that? You seem like you might be younger than that, where that might not be the top of your concerns um dude therapy go talk to someone about it they'll tell you that you're obsessed and that you're living in the past because that's

probably easier than moving forward and dealing with the unknown of the future but you have to step into that unknown and you just got to figure out what's out there for you the reality of that will be better than the reality of chasing this person who you're not meant to be with yeah i concur i um you were firing me up when you were talking about you know get out into the gym nothing nothing gets me more amped than a productive day where you it's like i took control of that day and everything i did helped advance me in my life i took a cold shower i did breath i did breathing exercises i friggin you know i wrote something down i wrote on post-it notes i did all these things for myself like i'm arnold and um so i would spread your uh spread your energy elsewhere into your life

like JT was saying you know develop yourself physically mentally emotionally and also get out into the world you know maybe watch some inspiring movies where you see some characters that inspire you to get out there and just show the world who you are but I would say out there and just show the world who you are. But I would say get out there, meet some people, say what up, be fearless, meet people you didn't even know you were going to meet, talk to people you didn't even think you'd talk to. And I think she'll slip from your mind in no time, my dog.

Yeah, dude, I think thinking backwards is keeping your life small and experiencing the forward parts of life is going to make it big. Yeah. And then you're going to write in an email six months from now and be like, dude, I went spelunking and I, you know, wrote a jet ski across the entire Mississippi River. And at the bottom of it, I made out with a beautiful Cajun girl who owns a really cool bar that does a great line dance. Oh, dude. That's in your future, a line dance with a beautiful Cajun girl. So stop thinking about schmoles in the past. Yeah.

And think about good times in the future. And I bet when you ask your boys about it, they're just like, dude, what are you thinking? Please don't do this bro bro please dude you gotta forget about her seriously bro she's toxic i know i like her though but i get it though you know because rejection breeds obsession yes so that's what's going on just it's nothing more than a psychological trick in your dome piece and and don't mistake intensity for intimacy right just because you guys are intense doesn't mean and that makes you want to fix it you're like oh

if we could just corral all that energy and fit it together right then we'd be perfect but no it hasn't been working and it's not gonna work yeah watch some maybe this might be triggering for you but maybe watch some movies or tv shows where you see like inspiring relationships and you're like, you can identify the pieces of the relationship that you want and be like, that's what I want. And then put that, write that down. Write that, write down what you want. Write down your ideal lady that's not the schmole and she will come into your life. Yeah.

Watch that documentary about Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her husband. I haven't seen that. Oh, yeah. She's a badass. And he's just like so cool. Yeah. He's like, my wife's a badass. But he's like badass too.

He went to Ivy League school. He's like a great lawyer. Nice. But he's like, yeah, I'm just cool. That's awesome. But you could be Ruth Bader Ginsburg too. I'm not saying you got to be fixed in either role. Yeah.

You could be Ruth Bader Ginsburg. You could be on the court. You could be Ruth Bader Ginsburg too. I'm not saying you got to be fixed in either role. Yeah. You could be Ruth Bader Ginsburg. You could be a, you could be on the court. You could be a justice. You could be wearing a dank ass wig. Then they'll make a three letter documentary about you, dude. There'll be a huge hit amongst the hipster elite. Yeah. You could start a startup that takes over the world. Then you'll have lots of different problems. But I just finished that book about Uber. You got to practice ethics along the way. You can't let your ambition take you over completely. You got to think about the people you're hurting.

Yeah. The drivers, the riders, everybody. Right. Chad and JT, stoked to be writing in. My name is Cassandra and I'm 23 years old. I'm a virgin for many reasons, but mainly because I haven't been in a serious relationship long enough to really feel ready for that. Recently, when I go out to bars, I've been bringing dudes home with

me at the end of the night and always have to make an excuse mid makeout sesh. Like I'm on my period or I don't have a condom, but really my excuse is that I'm, I'm a virgin at this point. I don't want to lose it to a stranger. Guys typically respect my dishonest excuses, but it's kind of embarrassing. I would just be honest with guys before bringing them home but i low-key love it because i reap the benefits of having a hottie kiss me all night without having sex do you think i need to be honest about my virginity before taking anyone home or just keep doing what i'm doing it's interesting yeah that's a good question i i don't necessarily think you're doing it wrong.

I think if you talked about how you were a virgin, that would lead to a very personal conversation that would build. I think maybe you tell that to the guy that you inevitably want to lose your virginity to a little more down the road. Yeah. Because you seem like you want to lose it with someone who you really like so you know keep fishing and then when you you tell that person yeah i yeah i don't think you owe anyone anything so i don't think you're doing anything wrong and and i think it's you know i you know you're going for a little makeout sesh that's fine that's fun uh and i don't think i don't think it's on her that's fine that's fun uh and i don't think i

don't think it's on her to be up front about a top yeah i don't think she owes it to anybody at this point yeah i mean if you want to if you want to say it and see how it feels go for it yeah i think most people are probably going to think it's like nice yeah and i think even even with just the makeout you know where it leads doesn't lead to anything, I think maybe if you're just honest and you're like, I'm not interested in having sex. I think people would be like, I respect that. What up, kings of Stoke and all things chill? Just going to come out and say this. I'm in a rut.

My Stoke all time low getting dangerously close to empty. I knew if I messaged you guys, your advice would be like stopping at the Stoke station and fuel up. I'm a junior in college. I've been struggling with my boys from home trying to get stoked because my group used to consist of 10 dudes, but four are gone because they started being schmoles. What if I'm next? I'm struggling with girls,

how to initiate conversation with them and then how to keep the conversation going. Brother, that's everybody forever. I mean, it's hard to talk to strangers. I also feel that the relationship with my family is also low brother. That's kind of forever too I mean, it's hard to talk to strangers. I also feel that the relationship with my family is also low brother. That's kind of forever too. Not, not in a bad way, you know, but it's,

it takes a lot of work to feel good all the time with your fam. I don't really get along with my dad or brother. I don't know what to do. I'm graduating soon and still don't know how I'm going to get a job where I like and excel in it. I suffer from anxiety. Need your advice. I got that from the email. I don't know what I'm going to do. I suffer from anxiety. Need your advice. I got that from the email. I don't know what I'm going to do. I suffer from anxiety. Dude, I think you're doing great, man. You're all good.

He's going through growing pains. He's developing. And dude, if you're worried you're the schmole of the group, I got news for you. You're not the schmole of the group. Yeah. Generally, schmoles don't think they're the schmole of the group.

Yeah. They think they're the fucking king of the group. Yeah, dude. I mean, you you're you're a college kid a lot of people don't say this but your 20s are hard they're difficult it's you know people glorify that decade i think it's one of the hardest decades of your life um because you're trying to figure out who you are where you fit in this world you know you're in college and you're in this sort of utopia where you just get to rage and play flip cup every night and then and no one really tells you that you're also developing and you're figuring yourself out so that's what you're doing so you know everyone has trouble talking to girls i have trouble talking to girls they

scare the shit out of me yeah chicks scare the fuck out of me yeah my brothers my dad they don't really scare me anymore but when i was younger they scared the fuck out of me yeah but i was you know i could tell you still love them i always love my brothers yes no matter how in my in my family even if they made me feel uh intimidated or insecure so um just, I would say, I know you have anxiety, so it's easier said than done, but try to approach each day with a sense of gratitude and just trust that you're in the process towards peace. Yeah. Take that, all that anxiety. And I'm borrowing this from Jimmy Iovine, who says, he's like, I got more fear than anybody. But what I did is I took that fear and I put it behind me and I let it push me forward.

And if you can do that, oh boy, you're going to be a lot to be reckoned with. And I think that's true. If you take that anxiety and you let it push you to make decisions and make more choices that are going to get you to a place where you're going to have less anxiety, that's the key. Don't let it scare you away from trying all that stuff you want to do. Yeah. What's that quote about fear? It's like when you step in the face of fear, there's something about that. But I would say get used to discomfort because if you want to live a great life, you're going

to have to be uncomfortable a lot and you've got to step into the unknown. And there's things you can do in life that get you used to discomfort. So that's sort of your home. Like I saw Mark Healy, this big wave surfer, he had a quote, I make discomfort my home. And he just went underwater in 32-degree water in Alaska for like a minute. Fully submerged. And when you do stuff like that, little mental tricks,

you take yourself to the gym, you do cold showers, you talk to someone that you're scared to talk to, and then all the anxiety and all the worry and stuff, it starts to slowly decrease, and stoke begins to rise. rise you know like you're filling up a big gulp with Mountain Dew the froth is coming up tasty yeah hey legends greetings from a couple Canadian gals we're seeking advice on behalf of a friend basically just found out his girlfriend of only a few months is pregnant she's super stoked and wants to keep the baby and she's from a super traditional family who is also really excited.

He's pretty apprehensive given the situation and isn't sure now is the right time. Both of them are in the early 30s so it wouldn't be ridiculous to have the kid

but the fact that they've known each other for such a short time is definitely a big thing to consider. Someone told him to just pop the question and marry her

and go all in but he's really confused right now. What advice would you guys give him? Man. Tough spot, man. Yeah, I'm sorry, dog. Guys, wear protection.

Yeah. Don't do Molly and wear protection. Yes. I mean that. I really do, guys, please. If you follow those two things and that's something you took away from this podcast, I'd be really happy.

That would make me feel really good. That'd be epic. I would say take a breath. Don't let people tell you what to do. Figure out what you want to do. You don't want to rush into marriage. I think these are modern times. You can figure it out.

And I wouldn't compound the situation by getting married on top of it. You know, if she wants to keep the baby and she's dead set on that, well then you need to learn how to take care of that baby as best you can and to make it work with her as best you can. But that doesn't mean you need to marry her. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Cause then if you marry her just out of obligation, while I respect it, I don't think that's the healthiest choice. No. I think the healthiest choice is for you to be happy so that you can be in a position to help both of them have a happy life as well. Yeah. Yeah, because what do you want the most for this baby? You want it to have a good childhood, a happy upbringing.

And I think that can be accomplished even if you aren't married because if the baby has two happy parents, I think that means more than if he simply had two parents that were married. What up, fellow Stokers? Would appreciate if you kept this anon as I have some bros that watch the pod as well. By the nothing like sipping on an ipa what up strider and watching the

pod with the bros anyway so i met this girl about six months ago and honestly i've never connected with someone so much in my entire life she's the cutest girl i've ever laid my eyes upon and she's got an amazing personality she's someone who i could generally see myself falling in love with which is saying something since i know what i like in terms of personality which makes me pretty picky i'm 21 and haven't had a girlfriend since i was 21 and I'm not really one to have drunken hookups. So my knowledge about how to handle these situations has diminished. So I know this girl has feelings for me because she's told some of my friends. The only problem is she has a boyfriend. So I guess what I'm asking is, do I go all out and tell her how

I feel or do I wait it out until her and her boyfriend break up? Also, side note, JT, I know you've dealt with mental health issues, and I was diagnosed with bipolar about eight months ago, and I'm still trying to fight the right combo of meds. I'm just wondering if there's any advice you could give to a fellow stoker whose stoke levels are kind of low. Yeah, man, I'm struggling to find the right combination of meds, too. I've been on one for a couple years, and I think the side effects are, you know, I don't know if I'm not taking enough of it, or I don't know if it's doing the side effects,

or if it's the cause of these symptoms that I have. And it's really hard to know. And I trust my psychiatrist, and I think he's a good guy, but it's hard. It feels like no one has all the answers, and there's not a one-size-fits-all for anybody. But most importantly, dude, I think the thing that I've had the greatest success with is reaching out to people. I really respect people who can keep their sadness to themselves.

That is not me, dude. I have to call people. I have to force the words out of my body. I have to cry and I have to get reassurance. And, uh, and yeah, if you got you gotta if I find that helps me a lot and helps me feel connected to people um and that's a big part of getting through those waves of of hard times my turn yeah that was nice yeah no I respect that you tell people when you're sad you know you got to reach out to people find your network of support yeah um sorry i was just like

just looking at the table uh um no i what not that it's the same, but when I get super hungover, I get extremely sad. And I tend to isolate. But then when I tell people about it or just get it out there, it helps a ton. It can feel more manageable for sure. Even though I'm more prone to, I just want to lay on the couch and just not talk to anyone until it passes. But like, last time I got really hungover,

I just hung with my mom. And she just, her warmth just gave me new life. Kept you up. Yeah. But it's tough. I mean,

so that kind of, it's debilitating. Oh, he's with a girl who's she's interested but she has a boyfriend yeah uh i would uh i don't know i'm always sort of like i i take uh issue with you know stepping on another dude's toes, even if the relationship might not be the best. Um, so, and plus you don't know if she's like for real. So you could just tell, so I would, I would, if she's really for real, then she'll break up with this dude and then you'll have

the opportunity, but I would stay patient. But also, you know, she's in a relationship as well so i would uh stay you know keep your options open but um i don't think i would say anything to her at this moment there's and there's no way to know what the right move is like sometimes the right move is to be like hey are you for real like if you are be with me and ditch this guy that you don't really like. And sometimes the move is to play it cool. I mean, do you know, bring back Chimbor's Beef of the Week. He was talking about Jim from The Office.

You know, Jim did it every which way. He told her how he felt, then he played it cool. You know, he lied about not having, not knowing how to drive sticks so they'd have more time to hang out. Yeah. I don't think there's,

there's no one way that I could tell you off this information. You just got to, whatever you think, you got to do it. Whatever you think, do it. Yeah. Do it. Do it. Do it. Let's get in the ring, partner.

Write it and tell us what he wants to tell you to do. And tell us to say that. As the tough guy, as a recovering drug addict, here's what I would tell you to do. Do a fake line of blow off your table. Feel that surge of stimulant in your body. Walk up to her like John Travolta in Saturday Night Live and say, Hey, I want to strut, strut with me. That's actually what he says at the end of Staying Live, the sequel.

But the point is the same. Be confident, say how you feel, and strut no matter what happens afterwards. Do the strut, baby. Strut. Oil up those hips, my dog. And just strut in there. And show them what you got. Aaron, what the fuck would you do in this situation?

With this girl? Yeah. His boyfriend? Yeah. Fucking move on. Oh, that's probably the best answer. Wow. Hey, dude, way to respect boundaries and to understand life.

See, the tough guy, when he sees the situation, it's all about how do I get what I want out of it? But a lot of times, what you want isn't actually going to make you happy. And what you need to do is read the writing on the wall that says, hey, I'm seeing somebody else. Obviously, I fucking like him more than you, and you got to move the fuck on. But I don't read walls. I read people. That was a guy from the real world's quote on his MySpace when he was on the, he's like, I don't read walls i read people that was a guy from the real world's quote on his myspace when he was on the he's like i don't read books i read people i love when uh i love when people

just cut through our wishy-washiness yeah yeah just move on or like oh yeah for sure that is what you do move on i mean yeah i'm i'm like 10 years older than you guys, so. I live through this. You're like the Hattori Hanzo of cutting through our wishy-washy. Oh, that's a sharp blade. Sharp. It could cut God. Sushi!

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It's got to go in that order oh cool so do you guys do you want to do your babe sure yeah all right my babe of the week is myself uh because i quit the jewel guys um pretty pumped on it i uh i got hooked on the jewel for six months and uh you never think it's gonna happen to you you, but it happened to me. And I would not recommend it because I've been off it now for two weeks and I feel fantastic. I didn't really realize the effect it was having on me. You know, it was giving me unnecessary anxiety. I wasn't really experiencing breathing problems, but I could tell my respiratory functions were not up to speed so but the biggest thing was the psychological you know like i would be in conversations and stuff thinking about when i could hit the jewel next you know it was just

it was not a pretty picture and i knew i had to i knew i had to cut it out of my life because it was just not serving me the way that i wanted and now i feel great you know less anxiety um better mood uh i'm able to live in the moment more i'm able to exercise better uh i've been surfing a ton over this break and just feeling good guys so if you need uh any help or assistance or some words of motivation for getting over the the robots dong hit up your boy um because i'll give you some good good stuff all right i've been off the jewel as well how you feeling good i know not now yeah yeah but about that yeah there's there's a weird because you know i get cravings from time to time there's a weird

thing about cravings it's like once you realize what they are because like they last for like 10 15 minutes or something but there's certain times where you're just like you're like my mind will be like why did you quit nicotine you should get on it right now it makes you feel good everything about it is great and that's just the weird ugly side of addiction whoa yeah nice and it's just a lot but then i know it's gonna last for 10 minutes and i just totally forget about it you know like before i quit it i was like how the fuck am i like it's like all i can think about how am i gonna not think about this thing that i've been thinking about for like six months and then you get off it and then all of a sudden you know a few days later you're like

like oh i haven't thought about dueling in like eight hours. That's crazy. Yeah. And I was at a point too, where I was thinking I needed the jewel to like do stuff. I was like, I needed to be good at our job. I needed to like, uh, be good at standup and stuff. It's like, it's just a story you're telling yourself. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty well. Aaron, who's your babe of the week? My, sorry. Uh, my babe of the week my sorry uh my babe of the week uh was at the golden globes last night she is she is a legendary babe if i may combine two categories salma motherfucking hayek oh damn holy shit she's 53 still goddamn gorgeous. Yeah. I know. I was hesitant to bring it up, but as I was watching the Golden Globes, I stopped it, and I yelled in my room, and I said, Joe, you got to get in here.

You got to get in here. It was a transcendent moment. I love Tiffany Haddish. I think she's hilarious. She's a great person. Met her several times. I couldn't hear a word she was saying, because Salma Hayek was just so beautiful and up and out there. And I liked it too because Tiffany Haddish was kind of on a run, you know, and I could

read Salma Hayek's mind. And then finally Salma Hayek goes, my turn, and started talking. Yeah. She's hilarious in her uh when she pronounced the words wrong that was awesome yeah that dress was fire too yeah yeah joe you gotta get in here what oh yeah yeah oh that's good stuff it was a nice moment what'd he say do you remember he was just like wow it's unbelievable i. I like audibly screamed. And I was like, my wife was like, what?

And I'm like, come look. You have to see. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. I was with my girlfriend. I was like, ho! Yeah.

Maya, babe of the week is Katniss Everdeen. It was a recommend to me by Chimbor. We were talking about the movie, The Hunger Games. And, you know, I love Jennifer Lawrence and all movies, but this, the character she plays in The Hunger Games is just such a fucking badass, dude. She just is so committed, you know, she doesn't want to do the job, but she's going to get it done. And she's going to take out who's ever in her way. And then at the end, when she's like, you know what, Peter, fuck the game. Let's just both kill ourselves.

The integrity, dude. Let's go. She buries Rue. She throws the symbol up to her district. And then they fucking rebel against the evil dystopian forces that have taken over their lives. You know. She's the Mockingjay. Right? Is that what she is? I think. I've only seen the first one. I mean, she's the Mockingjay, right? Is that what she is?

I think. I've only seen the first one. I mean, she can just unleash, she can unsheath some arrows. That's dank. Really cool character. All right, Chad, what is your beef of the week? My beef of the week is with websites. We talk about nicotine withdrawal,

and they make it sound like it's the worst thing in the world. Now, granted, I don't know. Maybe cigs are much gnarlier, but, you know, when you read that stuff, you're like, I don't ever want to try and quit because it sounds like the worst experience ever. They're like, you're going to be dealing with this for months. It's going to be on your mind.

You're going to feel not up to speed. You're going to have brain fog. You're going to have a lot of physical symptoms it's it's gonna be a rough experience they say it's the toughest thing to withdraw from and you're like jesus christ uh okay i'll stay uh i'll keep smoking and then you do it and you're like it can be uncomfortable and maybe i only did it for six months so i can't speak for people who've done for years but uh it wasn't that bad yeah it was just three days of being uncomfortable and then it just started to subside and so my beef of the week is with them maybe be a little bit more positive

yeah sometimes the fear of the pain is worse than the actual experience of the pain. That's totally what it was. And I was like, WebMD, chug my dong, dude. I know. I need to tell them the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. They're like those super logical scientific people who are very, they're like, well, you could have this.

And you're like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, they're very, and they're kind of dramatic, too. Yeah, they're like, why is my foot numb? And they're like, because you're dying. Yeah too yeah they're like why is my foot numb and they're like because you're dying yeah oh fuck yeah and they say it in a so cold with no with no emotion yeah and yeah it could be you know it could be uh you could be dead tomorrow i don't know and you're like dude eat a dick yeah dude i was watching a clip from the show the ultimate fighter i love it so much yeah it's where it's a reality show where a bunch of guys try to be in the ufc and this one guy lost but he didn't tap out and he's like i never tap out i don't tap out he's talking shit to another guy they end up

getting into a fight about it but he talks to the camera and he goes dude honestly i don't tap out i never tap out and if you do think i tap out and he hesitates for a second, he goes, suck a dick. Suck a dick. I'll put it at the end of this pod. It's so funny. You're just like, all right, dude. All right. Aaron, who's your beef of the week?

My beef of the week. One of my all time beefs is with people who leave internet comments. Yeah. One of my all-time beefs is with people who leave internet comments. I posted because I don't want to be crude or objectifying of women, but God damn it, Salma Hayek. I got to post something positive about you were just a stunner and a legend. And so I did post something about that. And the first comment i got was saying and then i went to her instagram where she posted a picture later that day of her in her dress and the first

comments below it were also about her having fake boobs and i just want to say fuck you to those people those are real they're glorious and uh they should not be questioned erin this is the most passionate i've ever heard you on the pod i love this you know it's kind of my thing uh yeah but this was just sorry if you can hear my dog coughing up hairballs over here but um yeah it's just it drives me nuts it's like let something be glorious don't you have to take it down you don't even know yeah you weirdo like i literally called the guy a fucking buzzkill right did you know that the beautiful illusion isn't hurting anybody yeah yeah i Yeah. I was like, even, even if they are, I don't have to, I'm not wearing them. I, you know, it's not my problem or, or not, you know, like it's not even a problem, but

if it, if there's a drawback to it, I'm not experiencing it from where I'm sitting. Cause I'm not there. It gave you great pleasure. Yes, exactly. And so, so why does anyone have to have anything negative to say about that? Yeah. You're not even following me, you random internet weirdo. Yeah.

Well, good for you for standing up for yourself and those boobs. Yeah. And I thought they were glorious. I mean, they're just, it's seared into my mind. Yeah. Like the Mask of Zorro. Great movie. What's your beef?

It reminds me of the Wittgenstein quote where he says, whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. If you don't have something nice to say, shut the fuck up. My beef of the week is the russian canadian junior hockey fight the punch up in pistani pistani czechoslovakia now slovakia we're talking january 4th 1987 there had been a cold war in hockey between canada and the soviet union that stretched over 25 years of international play, which had a lot of accusations from the Canadians that the Russians were using pros masquerading as amateurs. So then the junior hockey team plays.

Russia's not in contention for the gold, but Canada still is. And the game is feisty from the start. Right off the faceoff, Sergei Surasherov, elbowed Canadian Dave McLuhan, who responded by cross-checking the Soviet player. Neither player was assessed a penalty. In the aftermath of this fight, everybody blamed the ref for not keeping a tighter grip on the game. Five minutes in, Theron Fleury scored the opening goal for Canada. In celebrating the goal, Fleury slid across center ice on his knees, acting as if his stick was a machine gun

and pretending to open fire on the Soviet bench. Canadian Amateur Hockey Association President Murray Costello later called it an inflammatory act, completely unnecessary, lacking any sort of respect. The first period ended in similar fashion, with both teams

repeatedly slashing their opponents and canada emerging with the 3-1 lead flurry described the atmosphere on the ice the boys are up for the gold medal everything is so tense tempers are flying out there it's really tough out there i can't believe it it's so tense it's so tense then there was a period of silence in memory of four swift current bronco players who were killed when their team bus crashed in saskatchewan there was a drop in intensity for five minutes after that but then at the six minute mark a minor scuffle happened then the brawl after a face-off shistarov collided with everett santa posse resulting in a fight between the two soviet player pavel also leveled a two-handed slash and flurry leading

to another fight the battle quickly escalated into a line brawl involving all skaters on the ice. The commentator classically said, Oh, we got a real skirmish just moments after the face-off. Then the coaches started going after each other. Then Mike Keane paired off against Valerie Zolipkin with the Canadian fighting like it was for the world title, according to Fleury. This is my favorite part, too. This guy, this Russian guy, I guess the Russians don't fool around.

Like in Canada, there's like a tradition of like, hey, after a hard hit, you just fight. But the Russians are like, no, we fight to the death. So guys are like pulling their skates off and trying to stab each other. And then Brendan Shanahan, a lot of these guys ended up having great pro careers. I think like 20 players out of this game ended up playing in the pros. And Brendan Shanahan saw a Russian guy headbutt one of his teammates, and he said, it's the greatest headbutt I've ever seen. The fight goes on for so long, and the coaches are fighting each other,

that the people working at the stadium don't know what to do, so they turn off the lights. The emergency lights start flickering, and everyone just keeps fighting for another 20 minutes. They just fought in the dark as the fans whistled, we want hockey, we want hockey. They ended up canceling the game. Both teams, I think, were disqualified. Everybody blamed each other, but it was a great brawl. The punch up in Pistani.

That was awesome. Great names, too. Oh, yeah, it's a great brawl the uh the punch up and pistani that was awesome great names too oh yeah it's a lot of fun the greatest headbutt i've ever seen let's get fighting yeah lights are off and they're just brawling dude the guy's sliding and machine gunning the russians what a crazy fuck just a lot of testosterone in that game yeah and i just love it that the russians don't What a crazy fuck. A lot of testosterone in that game. Yeah. And I just love it that the Russians don't fuck around. They're like, are we fighting?

All right, then let's fight to the death. The Canadians are like, no, no, we just punch each other a couple times. All right, Chad, who is your legend of the week? My legend of the week is my mom. We had a great time over the holidays. She's got to give her a shout out. She's just the best. She's so pure of heart.

She's an artist, so we bond over creativity. We bounce ideas off of each other and we make each other laugh. We always have a great time together, so I just want to give a shout out to my mom. Lucky to have you as a mom. You're the best. When Brad Pitt i went brad pitt one last night she's like she texted me she's like you gotta see brad's speech and i'm like i saw it mom it was glorious that's awesome uh so yeah love you mom aaron who's your legend of the week oh i mean uh i believe i was quite clear as salma hayek still legend nice consistent uh my legend

of the week gotta be my gf sally for being so supportive but i also want to throw in a little little little sleeper legend the unsung jonas of the jonas brothers not joe not kevin there's a fourth one frankie really frankie jonas he's not in the band he's the youngest one oh wow and they interview him at the end of the doc and he goes i love him i know every one of their songs i just think they're the best i was like way to go frankie everyone thinks kevin's kind of like you know the uh i don't know the the not as like star-powered one but frankie just a regular guy. I love him.

Loves his brothers. It's great stuff. Yeah. That's awesome. So keep supporting your bros, dude. I think that's awesome. All right, dude. What is your quote of the week? Oh, I forgot.

I forgot. My quote of the week. Let's see. Oh, I know what my quote of the week let's see oh I know what my quote of the week is so I read I've read half of Moby Dick and my brother thinks I'm a douche for reading

yeah that was pretty hilarious he's like I'm like yeah I'm reading Moby Dick he's like is that because of your literary inferiority complex I'm like no yeah, I'm reading Moby Dick. He's like, is that because of your literary inferiority complex? I'm like, no, it's a good book. He's like, you really think it's a good book? I'm like, yeah.

He's like, why would you read Moby Dick? I'm like, because you should read the classics. You want to learn about the whaling industry, dude. Yeah, totally. Dude, sperm whales, fuck. Well, that's going to proliferate itself into your comedy too yeah thank you um thank you dude um fuck where's do you want me to go real quick yeah all right dude mine's from scent of a woman it's a al pacino won best actor for it i think in 1992 uh and he's a blind uh military colonel and he's uh he's had

this kid take care of him all weekend played by chris o'donnell and he's kind of been a dick to him but now chris o'donnell's getting kicked out of his uh preppy school for uh he's getting blamed for something he didn't do by these rich kids and he won't rat on anybody and so the the headmaster is being a real dick about he's like oh you are a cover-up artist and a liar to the kid. And then Frank Slade, Al Pacino goes, but not a snitch. And then the headmaster goes, excuse me? He goes, no, I don't think I will. And then the headmaster goes, Mr. Slade.

And then Al Pacino's off and running. This is such a crack of shit. Please watch your language, Mr. Slade. You were in the Bard School, not at Barracks. Mr. Sims, I will give you one final opportunity to speak up. Mr. Sims doesn't want it. He doesn't need to be labeled still worthy of being a Bard man. What the hell is that? What is your motto here? Boys, inform on your classmates. Save your hide.

Anything short of what? We're going to burn you at the stake. Well, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay. Here's Charlie facing the fire and there's George hiding in Big Daddy's pocket. And what are you doing? You're going to reward George and destroy Charlie. Are you finished, Mr. Slade? No, I'm just getting warmed up. I don't know who went to this place. William Howard Taft, William Jennings Bryan, I don't know who went to this place William Howard Taft William Jennings Bryan William tell whoever their spirit is dead if they ever had one it's gone you're building a rat ship here a vessel for seagoing snitches and if you think you're preparing these minnows for manhood you better think again because I

say you are killing the very spirit this institution proclaims it in stales what a sham what kind of show are you guys putting on here today mean, the only class in this act is sitting next to me, and I'm here to tell you this boy's soul is intact. It's non-negotiable. You know how I know? Someone here, and I'm not going to say who, offered to buy it. Only Charlie here wasn't selling it. I'm sorry, dude.

It's way longer than I remembered. The voice is great. It's okay. Sir, you are out of order. Out of order? I'll show you out of order. You don't know what out of order is, Mr. Trask. I'd show you, but I'm too old.

I'm too tired. I'm too fucking blind. If I were the man I was five years ago, I'd take a flamethrower to this place. Out of order? Who the hell you think you're talking to? I've been around, you know? There was a time I could see. And I've seen boys like these, younger than these, their arms torn out, their legs ripped off.

But there isn't nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit. There is no prosthetic for that. You think you're merely sending the splendid foot soldier back home to Oregon with a tail between his legs, but I say you are executing his soul. And why? Because he's not a barred man? Bared man? You hurt this boy, you're going to be bared bums. The lot of ya. And Harry, Jimmy, Trent, they're the rich

douchebags. Wherever you are out there, fuck you too. It keeps going. Stand down, Mr. Slade. Dude, it's long as fuck. I thought it was like one stanza. It's so fucking long. Alright. I'm not finished. As I came in here, I heard those words.

Crater leadership? Well, when the bow breaks, the crater will fall. And it came in here, I heard those words. Creator of leadership. Well, when the bow breaks, the crater will fall. And it has fallen here. It has fallen. Makers and men, creators and leaders, be careful of what kind of leaders you're producing here. I don't know if trial and silence here today is right or wrong. I'm not a judge or jury, but I can tell you this. He won't sell anybody out to buy his future.

And that, my friends, is called integrity. That's called courage. Now that's the stuff leaders should be made of. Now I've come to the crossroads in my life. I always knew what the right path was without exception. I knew, but I never took it. You know why? It was too damn hard. Now here's Charlie. He's come to the crossroads. He has chosen a path. It's the right path. It's a path made of principle that leads to character. Let him continue on his journey. You hold this boy's future in your hands, committee.

It's a valuable future, believe me. Don't destroy it! Protect it! Embrace it! It's gonna make you proud one day. I promise you. That's it. Wait, what's that from? Scent of a Woman. Oh.

Dude, honestly, I might have performed it less enthusiastically than Al Pacino. It's like Al Pacino at like full Al Pacino. Yeah. And they gave him the Oscar for it. That's awesome. I might disagree with that whole thing. With the whole speech? I might disagree with that whole thing.

With the whole speech? Like, if someone does you wrong, let people know. This is how the world gets fucked up. Aaron, I tell you right now, the words you are spitting out, they might be true in some anatomical sense, but they are not true in the sense of living. That's how conspiracies happen. This isn't a conspiracy to hurt.

This was a conspiracy to embarrass. The stakes are much lower than you're suggesting. Still. It still is correct. And we must be open to ambiguous conversation. I gotta watch that movie. Hoo-ah. Hoo-ah.

Hoo-ah. I know that from Seinfeld they quote him on that okay my quote is from Moby Dick I'm gonna try to do it in pirate's voice just from inspiration keep it real whenever I find myself growing green about the mouth

Whenever it is a damp drizzly November In my soul Whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing Before coffin warehouses And bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet Arr And especially whenever my hypos Get such an upper hand on me

That it requires a strong moral principle To prevent me from deliberately Stepping into the street and methodically knocking people's ass off. Then I accounted I dined to get to sea as soon as I can. Nice. How's that voice? It's good. It's a little Hispanic at times. Was it?

Yes. But I like what he's saying. He's like, whenever I feel despair, I go to the ocean and it boosts my stoke. That's what's up. That's like at the beginning of the book. I'm like, oh, this is a book about going to the ocean and boosting stoke. All right. Thank you, Herman Melville.

I love that. My dog, what's your phrase of the week for getting after it? My phrase of the week is, show your dink. I love that. What's yours? My phrase of the week is aaron oh aaron do you have one uh i i no i can't think of one right now we can come back to you yeah my phrase of the week is the speech from a scent of a woman i'm gonna do it again no charlie uh dude yeah no my phrase of the week is this too shall pass that's good stuff

Aaron you got one you know I love to have that great callback from earlier in the episode but I do not have one unfortunately how about we go out there and we we feel we act like we out there and we, we, we feel, we,

we act like we look like Salma Hayek. Yeah. What, maybe it could be, what, what did you first say when you saw her come out last night? What did I say? Honey,

you gotta see this. Honey, it's incredible. Honey, please come in here. Honey, please, can you come in here? Can you look at this? Honey, you got to see this. Honey, it's incredible. Honey, please, come in here. Honey, please, can you come in here and can you look at this? Honey, please, can we share this together? Would you look at that? They're two giant orbs.

Would you look at that? Yeah. You got to see these boobs. I have a friend's dad who loves athletes, and whenever he sees an athletic woman, he'll just get into the most rhapsodic speech. He'll be like, would you look at her thighs? I mean, you can just tell she's a thoroughbred.

The way she moves and the access in her hips. You're like, all right, you got to relax, partner. You're like, yeah. That's funny. Yeah. All right, well, feel better? Thank you, brother. I will.

You seem like you're doing better. This was a lot of fun. This was good for me. I'm sorry I was such a sad sack during work today. That's all good. This too shall pass. And show your dink, Stokers. Thanks for listening. Don't do Molly.

Yeah, and if you're a good baseball player, go to UCI with Danny Babona. They should call UC Newport Beach because it's right there. I didn't tap. I never will tap. I refuse to. And if you don't believe me, you know, suck a dick.

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