Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 213 - Chad and JT

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

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no warriors of sportsman that's not an action movie yeah it's weird it's hard to say but i know one thing. Unforgiven is not an action movie. I really wanted to post that, Mr. Roboto. Oh, you should have. Yeah. I don't think it was dicey. And I knew it would, like, make you feel really good. So I was like, you should post it, you know?

We should keep this in the pod and also mention that we went out drinking on Saturday. Yeah. And we're hanging out in a group. Yeah. And you were talking to a pretty gal. And she was, it seemed like you guys were vibing. Yeah. And then I look over and Chad's kind of buzzed. And I just see him pull out his phone and put it down.

And then I'm like, what's he showing her so i kind of lean over to look and it's the miami vice boat scene yeah i'm just playing on your phone yeah dudes if you uh and you were like looking at you're like look look at it look check it out and she was like uh-huh the whole table's like why are you making this girl watch miami vice i'm like because i just ordered a mojito she needs to know the companies yeah yeah my buddy was just on a game show uh-huh where it was like guess this word sort of password sort of thing uh-huh and the word was mojito that they lost on well really yeah no you gotta win that you can't lose on mojito

yeah yeah i'm trying to think what drink you could lose on you could lose on i can't think of another drink i think you should get them all dude yeah but i i love ordering mojitos now i think maybe just because of that movie but um oh yeah like i at the time i was just so fired up i got mojito i'm like look how fucking sick this is i was trying i was trying to give her context i was like well see that's gong lee and she's dating jesus montoro who's a drug dealer yeah but sunny's undercover they probably shouldn't be getting together but the sexual tension's bursting in this speedboat right now she was like okay no she was really nice about it she was like this is cool hey babe check this out hey better that than bitcoin or something yeah i mean oh i was but then afterwards i was like uh

because it was a jazz club i was like let's go let's go dance like colin farrell and gong lee good idea and we uh we tried to do it you know i think i from what i remember we you were dancing well you look good out there. Dude, thanks. Yeah. I was channeling Colin Farrell, Sonny... What's his name? Sonny... Sonny Crockett.

Sonny Crockett, yeah. Dude, I was trying to be cool and slide on my socks. Yeah. And I flipped up and scratched my arm and bruised my ribs. Where was this? At the dance floor. Oh, you fell? Yeah, I went down hard.

Oh, really? Yeah. Was that in the limbo?bo no after the limbo uh someone had their shoes off yeah and we were both trying to slide on the floor yeah and uh i really committed and i just went straight up into the air and scratched the shit out of my elbow and fucked up my ribs not too bad but i was in pain the next day oh damn i don't remember that and we got in In-N-Out, and I ordered like three things of fries. Oh, you did?

Good move. And a Neapolitan shake, I saw that. Yeah. That was good. Maybe two burgers. Right. I don't know. I think I just got a double-double, but...

Place is the best. Yeah. It was a good call by Ben. Good guy. Yeah. Great guy. Great guy. Who he said, dude, eat,

and you won't be as hungover the next day. That's true. And then, dude, in huge news, you didn't have a bad hangover, right? Yeah, Sunday wasn't too bad. Hey, man. Yeah. Hey.

I took some charcoal pills that night, too. Oh, okay. And I drank some electrolytes on top of all the shit. Dude, I was super hungover. You were? Yeah. Yeah. Really hungover. And I got to tell you, my hangovers lately?

Yeah. Nutty, dude. How so? Just the thoughts I'm having. Right. I just think everybody hates me. Right. Yeah. Right, right, right. yeah really hungover and i gotta tell you my hangovers lately yeah nutty dude how so just the thoughts i'm having i just think everybody hates me right yeah right and i realized i'm not afraid of like getting canceled you know what i mean yeah i'm afraid of just like people like ripping on me right you know what i mean oh interesting yeah yeah i've noticed that that's sort of been your your paranoia yeah it's been fucking huge dude but even on like the last weekend when you said

you were like you thought you acted a fool at that wedding yeah when you're telling me what like kind of like how you're behaving i was like oh that's not bad right yeah i'm just really dude i think it's i think it's the culture at large has got me nervous right oh totally like i even want i watch this taylor swift video yeah dude yeah it was very like i was laughing at the fight she was getting into with the guy uh-huh and i think i was laughing because i've been in a lot of fights like that so you think that just by like you're the way you are as a guy is gonna set you up for ridicule down the road yes the way you are as a guy in relationships dude don't nail it so hard yeah man yeah i know this is scary but i i just i think the easy solution of that is uh

don't date taylor swift right i know i don't think you should dude but i think i would yeah i think given i would yeah yeah i mean of course tay Swift, but I mean even just someone like Taylor Swift. Right. Vocal. Probably, yeah, but seems very cool or has a lot of talent. Right. Dude, her songwriting is, I think she's one of the best songwriters ever. Does she write all of her songs?

I think so, yeah. Wow. And they're beautiful. And the lyrics are so good. Yeah, she's pretty prolific, huh? Dude, you got to move that thing a little bit. I can't see you well enough. There we go.

Yeah, I got this pipe in my way. Yeah. There we go. Yeah, she's pretty prolific huh you gotta move that thing a little bit i can't see it well enough there we go yeah i got this pipe in my way yeah there we go yeah she's pretty prolific huh she just bangs out i mean this this newest one is like just her re-recording an old one so she can get the rights back from like scooter braun oh really yeah oh yeah i saw an article that jake jill is like jake jill and all steps out after song people people are pissed at him they're pissed at him really yeah i need to listen to this song and then dude and look i i think dating jake gyllenhaal probably don't jake date jake gyllenhaal either like i'm sure he's like a nightmare yeah you know what i mean but i think taylor's probably a big well what what did she sort of accuse him of doing so like the the major the first offense basically he denied her feelings a lot and kind of gaslit her a little bit yeah but like examples of this are like he has like a dinner

and he's like being kind of boisterous in front of his all friend in front of all of his friends and like loving the attention yeah and then um she's kind of not getting a word in yeah and then she goes to grab his hand and he kind of turns it over and pats it instead of holding it. And they get into a big fight. Really? And she's like, you dropped my hand. Yeah. He's like, what the fuck?

I don't even remember that. Yeah. And I was like, good response. But how long did they date? Okay. So I've heard they dated for like three months, but I've also heard he took a virginity. Oh, okay. And he was 29 and she was 20. So.

Okay. A little imbalanced. Yeah. Interesting. But I've dated in that age gap before. So I'm like. Yeah. Oh no.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even remember that. That's in the song? No, there's like interludes where this actor, Dylan O'Brien, and this, I forget her name, Sadie Sinkey or something is the actress is the actress and they they're both good and they like argue like a couple right and so he's like really loving and then he's kind of an asshole yeah oh interesting and then so i

dude i even we're gonna have to cut this way down but uh i even called my brother i was like bro this video is like firing me up yeah i was like like what's going on here i was like she's being way too hard on this dude and then my brother was like why are you losing sleep over it bro and then i was like dude thanks for the support dog he's like quit being a bitch i was like yeah i guess man but yeah that's probably good advice yeah yeah i know i could see a song coming up at me like you made me watch miami vice i would love that guy i hope i hope that song does come out dude if it wasn't a sad taylor swift song too yeah it's like yeah i don't think that all i wanted was for you to hear me without advice all you ever showed me were clips from miami vice to his sad ballad

i just had to repeat my feelings twice because you were so obsessed with sonny crockett and miami vice it just made so much sense to me at the time and i would do it again i think it was a great move yeah no i don't think that's bad no i just think it's funny if dude we might be there culturally dude even i think like cancel culture i think it's feeding into everything how we react to stuff yeah i think our fantasy football league people are getting fined all the time now for what for like things i don't even think they should be fined for like what like strider got fined i hadn't been checking the thread because we were just uh busy busy working the show and then but now i'm full blast back in and strider got fined a hundred dollars

because he left a guy in his starting lineup who ended up being inactive that day uh-huh so you know we want everyone to participate in the league so we'll fine you if you don't set your lineup yeah which by the way i wouldn't do if i didn't have my brother co-managing the team with me i'm like been super delinquent about it but uh so that's why it's hard for me to even speak on this because my voice in the league has been minimized because i haven't been as passionate about it but i'm passionate about this like they fine strider 100 bucks because he left a guy in his lineup who didn't play that day the guy got pulled 45 minutes before the game uh-huh and he got pulled because he was having mental problems he wanted to have a break right and see no one could have

known that that was coming so strider was on his way to do his podcast so he didn't check because he thought everybody was healthy right and then they ended up finding him 100 bucks for it man it's too hardcore that is pretty hardcore and i think it's cancel culture you think those are related yes i think everyone in our league wants to find people now because we all want to have like this punitive like ideology where if you don't fit into it we all get mad at you interesting so i think we're finding people like crazy because we're like you're not part of the league enough you're not doing what's right in the league but the rules are just there to make sure everyone has a good time and participates yeah and doesn't that hurt Strider more if he puts someone in the lineup?

100%. That's the thing. He's already going to lose. Yeah. He's already being punished. Dude, that's such a good point. He's already being punished. When you initially said that people were getting fined, I thought it was for things they said.

Because you're like, it's really the cancel code. Oh, right. Dick moves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If someone in our league says something like too misogynistic you know or uses weird racist coded language yeah 200 bucks dude to next year's dinner don't talk like that yeah don't talk like that bro bro don't talk like that dude like a swear jar or something yeah that would be uh yeah that'd be no bueno yeah dude i watched i watched my first football game of the season

yesterday oh whoa what'd you think about football oh that was cool nice yeah you hate it dude no i just it's fine i'm bored by it yeah i was well i was uh well we we had something this morning so i was kind of just thinking about that and uh wasn't able to get fully into it but uh this guy i was also a little bit hungover too so but it's cool you know i well one of my babe my i don't want to give away my babe too early but um oh yeah i do have a babe in mind from it it is it is fun to watch but you know what i've tried to like my whole life i've tried to get into sports and like i've tried to become a fan like many times like in high school i like was friends all my friends have been like huge sports fans and uh yeah you gotta

like you have watch look at the stats and stuff and i've like earnestly tried i just can't do it right i think you gotta grow up with it yeah dude i think sometimes look it's they're weird like arbitrary things like it makes a lot of sense not to be into them i don't know what it is that makes someone a sports fan and someone else not a sports fan yeah yeah but it's funny like when i i'm like i'm super an mma yeah and it has a lot of fans but a lot of people don't like it or like just don't get it you know and whenever i watch it with people who don't get it i kind of understand why they don't get it yeah you know what i mean like it is weird to like enjoy watching people get punched in the face but i just fucking like it inspires me i feel like really connected to people when i watch it and i just love the i love the two guys going against each other one's gonna prove they're

tougher like i love that or or more efficient or whatever it is that makes them good but yeah well i do love a good sports movie because Because you like art. You like storytelling. Yeah. And I do like playing sports. I like being athletic. I like working. One of my favorite things to do is work out. And I like surfing. And I play some basketball and stuff.

That's my favorite stuff to do. What's your favorite thing to watch in a football game? Is there a certain thing that you do enjoy? Touchdown celebration, I guess. you like the art part of it the theater part of it the performance yeah yeah i like seeing personality come out yeah yeah so did you like when cam newton ripped his helmet off it was like i'm back uh i don't think i saw that okay i want to get your reaction to this I saw that. Okay, I want to get your reaction to this. Cam Newton.

Dude, look at that Jimmy World shirt. Wait, so you kind of shook your head on, you don't think you have to grow up with sports? No, no, I think you do. I think you do to some degree. Yeah. But I don't know. My dad wasn't super passionate about sports, to be honest. Really?

Yeah, I just got super into it when i was about 16 oh when you're oh that's kind of later than i would have expected i was into it before then but then there was the strike and then i had a bad time in little league yeah and then but then mcguire and sosa did their home run chase and it was just like oh dude i fucking love this well i was into that barry bonds mark mcguire and all that stuff i was like yeah when that was going down i was that was going down, I was... That was electric. Yeah.

It was just so insane. I saw one of Barry Bonds' 80th homers or something. That one season, his best season. It was 73, yeah. It was 73. Yeah, maybe. I think it was like 69. Nice.

Yeah, he did. And that was sick. Yeah. In for a Panthers touchdown! You're dead! You're dead! I thought it was okay. Yeah.

I like more of a goofy celebration. I saw one guy, like, take someone's electric guitar and strum it. So was there too much intensity in Cam Newton's face there? there yeah you're just like um it doesn't context either right so cam newton used to be the quarterback for carolina he won an mvp one year he took him to the super bowl they got their asses kind of whipped yeah he was a good player there for a while but he kind of fell off a cliff they got rid of him and now he's back like three years later because all their other dudes are injured oh really okay that's cool yeah that makes more sense now but i wanted your pure reaction to just his yeah i mean i i don't i i if if you're gonna give like a if you're gonna give like a more of like a

cocky kind of celebration it has to be there has to be some humor in it i think right so you like the more the cocky thing where people like maybe act like too cool for school about it afterwards where they're like that was easy no no no i i think i i just like goofiness i like it i like when they do like uh i like i just like when they do funny shit i can't think of any examples but whenever i see it it gets where the football grenade okay yeah something like that but whenever I see it, it gets me fired up. Like when the football's a grenade? Yeah, something like that. Rodgers snaps it quick.

Pressure coming. Scrambles to his right. Pumps and runs, and Rodgers is inside the pylon. Touchdown, Packers. It's Rodgers running for the score. Yeah, go! I love you! I love you!

I love you. I still love you. I still love you. I still love you. I still love you. Yeah, that was hilarious. You like that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because just yelling at the fans, I own you.

Yeah. It was just funnier to me. It was funny, too, because all the Bears fans, like, Maurice is a huge Bears fan. Yeah. And he was because all the Bears fans, like Maurice, he's a huge Bears fan. And he was like, he does. Yeah, he does. Because he's beaten them like, what is it, like 18 out of 19 times or something like that. Oh, really?

That's not right. But he's beat them like for like the last 10 or 12 years, like every time. And the Bears are kind of struggling this year, huh? Yeah, they've been bad. What's their record? I don't know. They probably got like three wins maybe. Who's on top right now?

In the whole thing? Yeah. Who's the best team right now? The Cardinals just lost, but they're good. Their quarterbacks hurt. They have the best record. I don't know if anyone thinks they're the best team. And then some people do, but they're a little banged up.

Tampa Bay's dropped like two in a row. And Tom Brady's looked like old and kind of bad these last few games. Oh, really? But I think he'll come back. I would never bet against Tom Brady, although I hope he falls apart and this is the end yeah um uh which afc teams are good the patriots are starting to be good but they're not the best it's probably the bills right in the afc are really good and i know i'm forgetting someone's gonna get mad i didn't say the rams or somebody else pretty good and this is like the first time the bills have really gotten good right they've been good the last like two or yeah like pretty good

two years ago really good last year and now like contenders yeah right yeah that's a cool story and they have great fans yeah they're always smashing the tables yeah wait can i show you one more clip and this was actually gonna be my beef babes are the legends thing yeah i think only two guys could have beat donald trump in debate and i think one of them is arnold schwarzenegger i think he could have beat him because like trump couldn't have been like you're a pussy to him he would have been like i missed a universe and trump would have been like in which universe and then he would look any universe you can go to sissy and we hope i've been like nice dude and then i think charles barkley could have maybe beat Trump. Because he's so good at talking shit.

I love watching Trump. I guarantee you LeBron wasn't mad at the whiny or the inappropriate. When you said that man doesn't want to compete, that's what ticked him off. And I would have did the same thing. I would have came right back at your rack. I would have came up here and punched you in your face. That's what I would have did. Well, first of all, you're not a good fighter.

Listen. Isn't that hilarious? Dude, I know. So dumbfounded and hurt. What did Charles Barkley say? So Shaq's like, if you would have talked shit about me like that, I would have hit you right in your head. And what did Charles Barkley say? He said about LeBron?

He was talking shit about LeBron. Yeah. He's saying LeBron didn't want to compete or something like that. And then Shaq was like, I would have hit you. And Charles Barkley was like, well, first of all, you're not a good fighter. And then the producer so smartly goes to Shaq's reaction, you know? He's just so pissed. And the thing is, for context on that, Shaq tried to punch Charles Barkley.

One time Barkley ducked and tackled him. was like so and it was and that was when they were in the nba yeah and it was a super short skirmish but barkley like it looked like he would have won the fight yeah do you think they're enjoying being commentators more than being in the nba or do you think they enjoy their time playing basketball more i bet you there's days where they prefer commentating but i think overall they probably like basketball more yeah yeah i mean maybe at the end it sucks when your body breaks down and it's not as easy as it used to be and you have a lot more pressure but i still think they probably got a bigger thrill from that but dude they're hilarious yeah i mean to get to that level i mean you gotta you gotta uh have some drive in you that's like you know yeah you gotta love it yeah

because at that level it's so everyone's a really good athlete and that's like you know yeah you gotta love it yeah because at that level it's so everyone's a really good athlete and everyone's like huge or different or special yeah you kind of have to like is it some guys maybe not as much but i think most of the guys who are the best are psychos about it yeah did that one clip of uh shack dunking on the uh the white dude yeah i forget the white dude's name i think it's what is his name I want to say like Chris Duncan but that's not it yeah

wait just you saw this clip right where Shaq dunks on this dude and just like humps into his face and knocks him over oh yeah

oh he knocks him over and then he just pushes him over and the way he runs down the court and he's like so happy with himself but then Barkley made fun of him too Shaq talked about fighting And the way he runs down the court, and he's like so happy with himself.

But then Barkley made fun of him too. Shaq talked about fighting. And then Barkley's like, man, you can't fight. You only ever punched white guys. And then Shaq makes that same hurt face again. It's really funny. Barkley's the best. First of all, you can't fight. Did you see SNL did like a joe rogan impression oh yeah it's pete davidson yeah dude that was

the thing i heard from other comedians that i liked was like when they were like it was a bad joe rogan impression yeah like is that is that intentional so yeah the tim dylan's theory was that like they're basically saying we don't respect you enough to do a good impression right but do a good impression yeah yeah yeah i watched that yesterday morning it was all just very off-putting because i was just like i don't know i mean the jokes weren't even no the jokes were bad they just did like that's my d yeah that's my own d like i know when they make fun of him about that yeah because he said he could suck his own dick. I'm like, that's awesome. Yeah.

Isn't it progressive too that he said that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not that I care one way or the other, but it's like, I didn't think that was a big thing to like make fun of. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't really, I don't really understand. It's a weird thing to say in your fifties, but it's hard to do in your fifties. Yeah. That's why more guys don't say it.

I hope I can say it in my 50s. I mean, look, it's like he was just having like random bro talk with like three comedians. He wasn't like talking to, you know. I would like to see that. Yeah, he wasn't talking to like a governor. Yeah, I would like to see. Although that would have been pretty funny.

That's how he said it. Bros, I can suck my own dick. Well, all the guys are being bros too. They're like, dude, you can't do it. You're not that flexible. And he's like, I can do the splits. I can suck my own dick. Yeah.

It was very familiar own dick. Yeah. It was very familiar guy talk. Yeah. Yeah, I think trying to go after Joe Rogan, I just don't, I think it's always, I think it's, I think it'd be, I mean, I, you know, I respect anyone who wants to make jokes, but I just don't think, he's a tough target to hit. If they would have done it with more like if they weren't so clearly just trying to make fun of him if they were also trying to embody him a little more yeah it'd be better yeah and then i mean dude like you know it's incredible how much influence he has right yeah maybe no one should have that much influence yeah but like yeah i guess people are just upset about that yeah but i i listen to him as an interviewer and i think he's like amazing at

that his interviews are great. And such a wide spread of people like his interviews. Yeah. I've met so many people. I was like, oh, you listen to his interviews? They're like, yeah, they're great. And then you're like, okay. He's obviously got something.

Oh, totally. Yeah, you don't get that. I'm not making any news here. Yeah. Yeah. I want to listen to the Snoop episode. That's kind of funny, though, because he doesn't know very much about hip hop. Oh, really?

So it's always funny that way. Yeah. But that actually kind of makes the interview better in a way he's just being himself i like uh smart list have you listened to smart list no i heard that's good jason bateman will arnett and sean hayes do they have good rapport yeah and will arnett's so funny yeah he's the best yeah um i was listening to their um what was i listening to? Tom Hanks is good. George Clooney is good. Oh, fuck. What's his name?

Dumb and Dumber guy. Not Jim Carrey. Jeff Daniels. Jeff Daniels. He's good, too. That's good, too, because I bet you they're all big enough stars, too, where they can talk to those people like friends. Yeah. You know what I mean?

They act like friends, yeah. Yeah, because sometimes when you listen to that big of a person on an interview, everyone where like they can talk to those people like friends yeah they act like friends yeah yeah because sometimes when you listen to that big of a person on an interview everyone does the same interview because we all have basically the same questions we would ask them you know what i mean like what was it like to make castaway or something like that yeah but they can actually talk to them with some like they already know all that shit it's it's kind of like a fun hang yeah yeah that's good a good bro hang dude it's funny My brother's wedding's coming up this weekend. Yeah.

I'm excited. I'm excited. I haven't started writing my officiant speech yet. Oh, you haven't? No. When are you going to start? I don't know. I need the pressure to be on a little bit.

Yeah. And that'll generate the time. I mean, I'm going to do a good job. There's no way I do a bad job. Do you have the whole, yeah, you're going to crush, but do you have the whole routine down? The structure? Mm-hmm.

No. Yeah. How long are you supposed to go for? Five to minutes oh that's not bad oh okay yeah we can do that yeah my dude my dad called me oh your speech five to ten minutes yeah oh i thought but the whole like ceremony oh the whole ceremony is like 30 minutes but the in between stuff is easy yeah and you sort of know where those oh yeah i know that structure oh yeah and i'll go over to lunch with my brother before we go up there but no one takes me and you have rehearsal too yeah i'm fucking quick with this shit bro i'll pick that shit up yeah i mean you've been in front of a crowd yeah many times but it's a big moment my dude my dad's really nervous about it i didn't even like a pump-up speech really yeah what's he nervous about he's like i don't know

i just you know i don't know what to say and i kind of about his speech yeah oh interesting and he's like he's he kind of needed to be i had to give him like you got this man you come from the heart yeah so you're good you got gravitas dad yeah i was like the people are gonna want to hear from you and no matter what you say it's gonna work because you're coming from the heart yeah and he was like thanks thanks thanks yeah yeah yeah and that's that's sweet though they care so much dude it's it's he's really gone above and beyond. Yeah. I think he almost hired a speechwriter. Really? That's hilarious.

I know. Well, first he called my mom. It was like, hey, Monica, are you hiring a speechwriter? Yeah. And my mom called me and was like, your fucking father. She didn't say fucking. She was way cooler about it, actually. I just want to amp it up because it's a better story that way.

But she was like, John Thomas, your father said the weirdest thing. He's like, are you hiring a speechwriter? Yeah. And she thought it was my dad like kind of talking shit being like oh do you need a speechwriter yeah i was like no i bet your dad's hiring a speechwriter yeah and he's like he's he just wonders where you're at on it yeah and then and then yeah that turned out to be what it was my dad was just hiring a so he did hire one yeah for like a day but then he said he fired her because he was like this isn't me right i have to write this myself yeah yeah if it was like super structured and yeah yeah he's come from the heart wedding crashers exact heart it's so sweet though that he cares so much i was really like yeah i like that yeah especially because

he's so uh he he seems to have so much like confidence yeah around him yeah so that the fact that he's so nervous about it is funny I know I know yeah it's sweet uh but it's gonna be a great wedding I was telling my dad I was like dude it's gonna be a great party and it's gonna be the wedding of the year oh and dude credit to my brother he hasn't been freaking out at all really yeah he's been super chill I call him like every day and just bitch about myself for like 15 minutes. And then he's like, all right, dude, I gotta go. And I'm like, yeah, he's planning a fucking wedding.

Yeah. But it doesn't seem that hard for him because he's very into it. So I don't ever get the stress of it. Even when he says he's stressed, he doesn't sound that stressed. It sounds like he's having a good time. Yeah. Yeah. I love that hotel too.

Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Yeah, it's pretty. I think the weather's supposed to be nice too. Yeah, I was checking that. Yeah too yeah it's gonna be fun yeah it's pretty i think the weather's supposed to be nice too yeah i was checking that yeah what's it what's it gonna be it was saying partly cloudy but i'm betting it's gonna be sunny they say that all the time and it's sunnier than they say and by 4 p.m i think too yeah it'll burn off yeah no it's gonna be really fun yeah i'm stoked you're coming i'll be fun we're both dateless yeah yeah we got we got to go like kramer says you got to go unfettered you know weddings are a great place to meet chicks although you know i uh i matched with some san diego girls recently so you might ask for the you might well i'm like well okay uh because my brother brother was like, we don't have space for dates.

And then he was like, actually, there's some space now. Yeah. And he messaged me. I was like, I had someone in mind, but then I was like, no, I was like, ah, no. And I messaged him today. He's like, the window's closed. I'm like, okay. So I'm like, good.

You know, that's how it's supposed to be. I'm going to meet someone. Right. But what's the protocol? You know, what's the protocol? What's the protocol if later into the reception you say, hey, you want to come? Can you do that?

Or is that against? Is that very rude? I got two answers. Yeah. I got my real answer, and then I got my podcast answer because my brother listens to this. Right, yeah. I'm just going to give you the real one. Yeah, maybe just cut this out because I don't want to disrespect you.

No, it's not disrespectful at all. You're just shooting from the hip and I love it. I think it's a good move. I think it's a good move. Yeah. Because once everybody's... And it depends on the wedding. Past everything.

Past the speeches. When it's like 11 p.m. and people are dancing. When it's just pure party and all the ritual is out of it. I think that's a smart move. Yeah. No, I would never... 11 p.m and people are dancing when it's just pure party and all the the ritual is out of it yeah i think that's a smart move yeah no i would never be like hey babe okay right like in the middle of dinner when it's like when everyone's just in free-for-all mode yeah and then also the bride and groom are past the stressful part and they're just getting hammered now yeah yeah so you're not they won't even notice right and it's a big party if it was a small wedding with like 10 people i'd

be like that might stick out a little bit yeah it's a big it's like 200 people it's a big party. If it was a small wedding with like 10 people, I'd be like, eh, that might stick out a little bit. It's like 200 people. It's a big wedding. They won't notice at all. But yeah, don't try to get her a seat at dinner. No, no. And actually, I might be being too like, I don't think my brother would care. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, the last thing I would want to do is be disrespectful. That's true. You're like the most you know, be disrespectful. That's true. You're like the most respectful guy now. It's true. I think I'm too respectful. Really? Maybe. Isn't everything going pretty good, though?

That's true. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I worry about it, too. Yeah. Yeah. Like, should I be a little bit more?

You know what though i was feeling today uh i was like uh you know you go through like phases in life you know like for the past like year i was pretty like kind of like you know hammering at home just like you know not partying work hard and stuff but now i'm in a phase where i'm kind of like i want to let some steam off i've been raging yeah i want to rage and stuff but um but then I get in my head you know because I'm like because just by virtue of what we do it's not like we have like an off you know it's I feel like whenever I party it hinders my you know performing ability um and so that's why I get paranoid about it um but but at the same time

I'm just like I was just today I was kind of like, I was like, yeah, I'm still a little bit like not a hundred percent, but I'm just like super happy. You know what I mean? So I'm like, maybe there's like, I don't know. Maybe I just need to rage a little bit.

Yeah. Balance, right? Yeah. Balance. That's what my dad told me. I was like, dad,

I was like, I just want to find the next thing that I can be like really focused on. He said, why don't you just go somewhere you've never been before? Right. And then I was like, I don't really like doing that that much yeah yeah although it does sound like a good idea yeah yeah yeah it's tough to to know because especially in like la culture you know like when i would go for you know be sober for periods of time

you make sober friends who put in your mind they're like you know you know there's nothing worse than a belly full of booze and a head full of aa you know where it's like every time you drink you just your head's just like man i'm fucking everything up but in my case i don't think that's necessarily the case no i don't think so well that's why it's nice having friends too like my brother strider who did party but like they seem to be regulated people right they're pretty balanced and they don't seem to like blow things up you know yeah they're they're very like steady yeah yeah uh but i do like with myself like i'll think about that sometimes like because i did sex addicts like i'm always like i would sometimes think and like i would encourage

everyone who thinks they have a problem to get help. But like, sometimes I'd be like, are we like over-pathologizing things? You know what I mean? But the thing is, I do have a genuine problem. Like I can make myself really sad from just like watching too much porn or something like that. So I do have to watch it, but then I'm like, I don't need, but I don't want to like go the other way too much and like beat the shit out of myself. If i make if i you know watch too much porn one day right i mean yeah maybe it is just a more sort of nuanced approach to it just like assessing you know how it's affecting you right because like for example like like saturday night i had like the best time it was so much fun and you just get all these stories too from you know it's like i think it

just adds to your life you know it's in a positive way you make friends you know um and you order mojitos and so yeah i don't know aaron what do you think well i mean i am a sober guy but i'm not not because i ever had a problem with it just cause I didn't feel the need to do it. But, um, I, I think it all comes down to what it does to you. If, if it, if it wrecks you and your life and you can't perform otherwise, then it's a problem. But you know, you're allowed to have fun. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, just don't hurt anybody or yourself. Right. I do find with pot, too, like, I'm a little high right now. It does make me feel better sometimes. Yeah. But then I worry, I'm like, but am I better or do I just feel better? Am I actually worse, but I feel better in my own head?

Because you see that, too, right, sometimes, you know? Do you feel better in the moment, but in the long is it that's what i wonder yeah but then sometimes i'm like i genuinely do think i get better ideas sometimes when i'm high right and also i feel bad there's like college kids listening to this look you never want to depend on something yeah anything it's true it's hard not to though like people or something i think about that a lot like am i is everything in my life just to regulate me you know and then then i'm like yeah maybe right and then i'm like am i gonna be able to not do that right it's like, fuck.

That's going to be, that's going to be like, or maybe I'm already doing it. Maybe I'm only a couple of years away from it. Maybe I should be more positive. Maybe it's a process. It's tough. I mean, learning how to be alone and just happy uh and just you know happy just existing it's really tough thing to achieve that pascal quote man like yeah all of man's problems arise from his inability to sit in a

room alone with his thoughts i was like fuck dude yeah it's like yeah dude sometimes i'll just be that's why i was like watching moneyball and i'm gonna talk about moneyball later too because it's my favorite movie of all time i was excited dude when the thing I like about the movie is Brad Pitt has this he's so overcome that's what you like about that movie yeah part of what I like but I got more to say it's mostly Brad Pitt he's got so oh right right I thought you just meant this emotion yeah no Brad Pitt's incredible in it incredible the way he can feel his like passion and his frustration over his passion yeah and just like how how much he wants to change things but feels like he can't. There's so many roadblocks.

I was like, yeah, I feel like that every day. Just overcome. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah, he's awesome in it. Just be like, shout out, Billy. Billy, shout out. We got to talk about my contract. Yeah.

One year. I like that, Aaron. You're allowed to have fun. You're allowed to have fun. Yeah. In your 20s, you're allowed to make mistakes. In your 30s, try not to make as many mistakes. Oh, I like this.

Have fun. In your 20s, you're allowed to make mistakes. In your 30s, you're allowed to have fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's scaring me now too is like the scale seems like it's changing.

Like I have to be harder on myself for mistakes now than I was like 10 years ago. Yeah. Like it's not cute anymore. Right. You know what I mean? I'm like,

you're a dumbass, dude. You know how this plays out. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's growing up, man. Should we get into questions? Sure. Let's do it

yeah this is probably not a podcast about growing up i don't know i also just spent a lot of time thinking about stuff i said for whatever reason i was driving home from work the other day and i was just thinking about stuff i said to my ex my high school girlfriend when we broke up about how i thought about us getting married and i don't think i did right but i did say that this podcast makes you think about that no no no i was just driving home and yeah for some reason that thought came into my head it's like oh i mentioned marriage to a girl i dated three months right oh yeah dude yeah yeah yeah but i'm like is that about yourself yeah of course but cut yourself some slack you're 18 your first it's your first girlfriend i've said that to every girlfriend i've ever dated okay there's a pattern there that probably needs to be addressed but you know cut yourself some slack well no but i'm like why else would i date someone

if it's my girlfriend i probably think we're i probably longer than that though i assume yeah that's that's what my third episode is why don't you just wait a little bit well you probably dated them longer than three months in high school as well so the three months though at that age is a long time it is yeah and it certainly felt like it at the time but like i'm just i'm all about i'm older now i understand i'm twice the age of that kid yeah it's fine like he he made that mistake. I made that mistake, but it's because of all of the scenario, like the whole scenario. Yeah.

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Clean up your nuts and make Santa proud this year. All right, back to the show. Okay, import exporters of Stoke, Strider, Aaron, and Chris. My name is Lion and I live under my dojo. I train daily jujitsu and Kali stick fighting with my teacher who lives next to the dojo. He's a real badass that could kill most humans gruesomely and quickly. I have trouble feeling like I'm worthy of being in his presence. I have

trouble being myself because I want to live up to his standards. I worry about my body language and I have trouble making small talk without stumbling on my words. It goes without saying I really respect the man. I know that if I can be by my if i can be myself i would be a more outgoing likable guy in his eyes my question can you bros give me some advice on how to be more confident in myself around them this is a great question dude i think you're lucky man i think you're lucky you have someone in your life who you really look up to that much i think that's's rare. So I wouldn't judge yourself too much for how you're behaving. I think more if you're being sincere, that'll come through. He'll feel that.

And so I would just appreciate that you guys have that time together. And that's what matters the most is just that proximity. I don't think you have to be like Jim Carrey or something. I think the guy will know. If he's a good mentor, he'll see who you are through that yeah he I have no doubt that he respects his dude and no no the the teacher yeah uh you know understands who I I'm I've I'm all I'm in constantly in situations like that where I'm like around people I look up to and I'm just totally myself and I just feel awkward and stuff.

I just don't complete sentences and stuff like that. But then in the reverse situation, if someone younger than me, a niece or nephew, for example, if I can tell that they're nervous i think it's kind of charming it's sweet yeah and it's like uh and i and i know i just know deep down that the they're it's like i can see who they truly are yeah and what's funny about them isn't the clever things they say what's funny about them is how sweet and sincere they are yeah or like how they're themselves without knowing it yeah yeah and their true self always shines through yeah you know um and unless you're like overcompensating for that insecurity and being kind of like you know over the top then that's kind of like i'd watch that but it doesn't sound

like he's doing that but that's what'll get you in trouble yeah is when you feel like you're not being enough so then you overdo it and then you're too much yeah yeah like that's really good advice that's when i was like least funny yeah is when was like, these people don't think I'm funny. I've got to prove to them I'm funny. That's like, it's death. You'll never be, I would just not even worry about being funny

and I bet you're being funny just by being how nice you are. Totally. So yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't, I think, I think,

you know what? And also whenever I'm around people like that who make me nervous, I'm like, it's good training for being around everyone else because it makes you, even though you're nervous in that moment, it makes you a more confident and stronger person just in general. Yes. Because you're putting yourself in that kind of uncomfortable situation of like being around

someone who you aspire to be more like than when you're around, you know, your friends, for example. I think it makes you. You're more confident around them. Yeah. then when you're around you know your friends for example i think it makes you you're more confident around them yeah and then next time you meet it like a sensei that you really like you'll have some reps and you'll be more comfortable with that dynamic yeah no 100 it's like in hitch too like at the end when rata mitchell's character's like you told him to do all those things that made me fall in love with you and he's like hitch is like

like what she's like when he danced all goofy at my party so i wouldn't feel like a loser or when he spilled mustard on himself at a knicks game and you're like hitch is like i didn't tell him to do any of that yeah like okay yeah you tell me to do that god no yeah even though none of that stuff would work yeah are you a hitch fan aaron never seen it what you'd like it dude because it's hard it's impossible to dislike yeah you got ava mendez and will smith at their most charming there is a scene a shellfish scene though right yeah that's still too close to home for me are you allergic to shellfish i am really yeah how do you react?

What happens? Hives, mostly. So far. It's a boner jam. When was the last time you ate some shellfish? Well, I can say this. The last time I had an allergic reaction was four years ago today. Oh, okay.

And I don't know what caused it. Interesting. But I think it had to been shellfish related it's weird this is a good question it's long as fuck dude you guys ready oh can i say the last guy uh don't say cali what do you mean i don't like cali for sticks no for cali is the the state of california no i think he means it was K-A-L-I. Oh, okay, sorry. Fighting stick.

It sounded like you said. Yeah, I might have. This is still a public service announcement. Don't call California Cali. It's really annoying. It's C-A, California. Well, that's putting up a red flag that you're not from there. Yeah, yeah.

And you're trying to be local. It's true. If you go to the East Coast, everyone on the east coast calls it cali don't like it but i kind of like it you could you could you could be the one to change it yeah i don't know if i ever say but like what's up i'm from cali no you're right it's whack it sucks it's whack well now i'm self-conscious about let me try one more time uh will you ask me where i'm from hey dude where are you from i'm from cali yeah it's brutal don't say it bro bro stop talking like that um what's up, Stoke Lords? Mad props to what you guys are doing on the pod. I'm a full-time college student and currently working at a consulting firm.

Those Monday mornings after some major Sunday scaries are brightened up when I throw on an episode of Chad and JT while I work from home. You guys are what gets me through the day sometimes, so steez of you. Let's get down to business. I think I'm a sex addict. I drink, but I'm no alcoholic.

I vape occasionally, but don't have a nicotine addiction. smoke kush sometimes but i'm not a stoner sex is the one thing that i can't get away from i hate saying that because it makes me sound like a pretentious douche but it's the truth i've been off and on with girlfriends for as far back as i can remember i've had two girlfriends in my time here at school and up until recently we have had very minor amounts of arguments and entanglements post breakup with either of them it's tough to avoid because they're in my frats big friend group so seeing them often is basically a given although i've left them both many times in the past and have displayed major dickish behavior they always seem to come back to me at sporadic times not gonna lie i've pursued a few times but 90 of the time it's them reaching out and trying to sneak sneaky link with me i've fallen

into their trap far too many times and sometimes i have a hard time saying no sometimes i say no and after some major convincing i will cave and do it i know how toxic this is for both parties but this has seriously been taking a toll on my mental health i'm still hooking up with other girls outside of the ex-girlfriend sitch but these two recently i've been getting much more involved and eager uh a few nights ago i double dipped and had sex with both of them in the same night separately. They found out through the grapevine and then been verbally abusing me over text and in person. Although I understand what I did was honestly quite disrespectful from anyone's perspective, I've warned them multiple times in the past that what we do late at night on the weekends is nothing permanent.

They have also dealt with me in the past and know that i sometimes feel no remorse for my bad actions i've warned them we are doing what we're doing to serve a specific purpose which is catching a nut although this is the mentality i do find myself pillow talking with them post mooch for quite some time sometimes i'll even sleep over depending on how late it is since they found out i feel like i've been walking on eggshells. I think it would be best for me to take some time to myself and abstain from any sexual activity until my mind clears up. I understand why they're angry,

and I'll never be able to give a real explanation of my actions besides that it was out of pure lust. Realistically, neither of them will ever sleep with me again, so that's not an issue anymore. I just want to hear what your guys' perspective, and we'd love to tell you guys the full story because there's boatloads of context. I think we have enough context.

Yeah. That I couldn't even begin to mention in this email. I know some of your typical responses are to maybe find a hobby or hang with the boys more, but I already do both on a daily basis. I picked up surfing and hiking towards the end of the summer, and I'm going to give skiing a shot this winter. My guys are my backbone, and there's no disconnect there. They couldn't care less what I do with my wiener

but are also supportive of my thoughts about being addicted to this stuff and are there to help. I'm planning on seeing a therapist this week. I've never truly opened up to anyone about my excessive sex drive. I think it'll work out in my favor, but we'll see where it goes. I think, is he being a little hard on himself? I think he's kind of being hard on himself and then not actually being hard enough on himself.

Yeah. Like he's hard. He's being too hard on like the diagnosis being like, I'm a sex addict. You know what I mean? And then like, really, I don't know if he's a sex addict.

I think he's. If you're having a hard time controlling it, maybe, maybe take some time, time to sort of reassess how you, how you approach, uh, you know,

sexual activity. Um um because yeah i mean yeah i don't like hurting anyone's feelings yeah it sounds like he doesn't either and so yeah maybe take some time to reassess so uh you can be a little bit more uh sensitive i guess but you know but he was they're they're not he's not exclusive with either of them so yeah it is it i mean it that's probably you know i mean i've always like had debates with guys who are in this situation about this stuff and i've been on both sides of it but it's like it's like how culpable are you for a mistake someone else is willing to make right it's like oftentimes people won't hear what you say they'll they'll respond to what you do yeah so if you're still having sex with them is people will and guys do it too we'll just be like oh no they do like me you know what

i mean yeah yeah i think therapy is good yeah it seems like you want to talk about your feelings and you want to be honest about them i think think therapy will help you through it, and maybe you'll find a dating kind of system that's more beneficial for you and the other person. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. But it's tough, man. It's tough.

Yeah. I think that's why... Yeah, dating's hard, because someone's going to get... Hurt. Hurt. And it sucks on both sides. Yeah.

I don't know. I would not recommend you date Taylor Swift, bro. You're going to be in trouble. See, when he said he slept with both of his exes the same night, I was like, I don't feel like that's a problem. Like, unless he reached out to both of them. If he reached out to both of them that night and slept with both of them, then I think that's a little more of a gray area.

But like if they both individually reached out to him, like what's his responsibility to either of them as exes, he's just a guy, a guy in his twenties who's two women are attracted to him. Like maybe after he has sex with one of those women, that woman's like, Hey, like I really care about you. And it's like really special when we get to hang out like

this and then maybe he's like hey yeah like i feel you yeah it is really special and then he goes out and she finds out he had sex with another girl that night and she's like hey we were talking about like going on a weekend trip to like to like a portland together and then i found out you slept with like sydney and then he's like yeah well like i wanted to go on the weekend trip to like to like a portland together and then i found out you slept with like sydney and then he's like yeah well like i wanted to go on the weekend trip but i also want to sleep with sydney yeah and then she's like i didn't we didn't say anything he's like well i told you like a week earlier that i felt that way and then she's like but then he told me that like we were gonna like spend new year's together in portland i don't know yeah if he's spending all this time confusing people sure he's done something bad but i don't know the way you wrote it just sounded like he had the opportunity he took it and you know that's

what your 20s are for is going back to what i've said earlier like yeah go ahead and you know make the mistake you're not going to know these people your entire life you're in your 20s yeah it's tough it's tough i don't know i mean and so you got some girls mad at you on text you can block them like it's fine it's yeah but i think that well that's the hard part is like i think he probably wants people to think he's like a really nice guy you know what i mean he's like i want everyone to think i'm cool and then it's like well you're gonna get over that at some point as a guy who's almost 40 i'll tell you what you're gonna get used to at some point. As a guy who's almost 40, I'll tell you what. You're going to get used to people not liking you for a while.

Or at some point. Nice. Not everybody. You can't please everybody. That's true. That's a good way to think about it. You can't please everybody. Unfortunately, Bill Cosby said this.

But if you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody. Right. But Bill Cosby did say that. He did say that. did say that which is unfortunate but he's he was right on that one all right and sexual addiction i think is very serious and you should like really yeah no that's true the assessment of it he wasn't saying like i had sex with them both the same night and then i also beat off four times that day like i feel like that's more.

Yeah. In line with what addiction really is. But I think that's the right assessment. Yeah. As I always say, get your hormones checked. Therapy never hurts. Yeah.

He could have an excess of testosterone. That's making him do these things because we are essentially controlled by them. Right. By our hormones. So yeah, that's true. All right. We are essentially controlled by them. Right. By our hormones, so. Yeah. That's true. All right.

I'm nervous to get my hormones checked. You're solid. You're probably fine. I know, it just makes me nervous. What are you nervous about? I just don't like getting stuff checked. That's true, because the only news is bad news, basically. Yeah. It's good to know it's good

to have the information if i have low t i'm gonna fucking do but you don't have to get it no but i hear you i hear you but but you don't act like a person with low t oh thanks yeah so if you had low t and then they were like hey you should also take this and then you'll be up to like you might be even more stoked right yeah right You would know if you had low T. You'd have a lack of energy is one of the things. And then erectile dysfunction is another. Also, I think our metrics for how we measure this stuff, it's like every person's different.

You know what I mean? Like when me and my buddies did steroids in high school, we all went to like a shady doctor. And he told all of us that we had like low T. And some of my friends who went to see the doctor were like jacked. Yeah. And then they'd come out and be like, Hey bro, Hey bro, doc told me I got low T. Yeah.

When did you, when did you see him? What time of day? We were all like 18. We'd all see him in like the morning. Yeah. Okay. It's gotta be very early morning for them to even get a good assessment of it. And, well, I don't know when he went in, but, like, basically he was like, I got low T.

And I was like, you're, like, the strongest, toughest person I've ever met. I'm, like, certain you don't have low testosterone. And then they were like, no, I took it out in the 43rd percentile. And I was like, no, you're not. That's almost average. Yeah, but maybe testosterone doesn't work that way. Maybe it's not always directly correlated to, like...

But this, whatever we think of when we think of testosterone, my friends who were getting it from this doctor were, like, peak or right yeah i had low t let's yeah i mean but you don't seem low t yeah i know beast on the soft i didn't have it either like i had no i had no symptoms of it i had no fatigue other than my generalized i'm tired all the time but like i can get up out of bed and do all my things and I never had erectile dysfunction. So it was just like, yeah,

maybe everybody's different. Yeah. But those are the two major ones in a, in a guy that should, you know, what are the two? Uh, extreme fatigue and,

and, uh, erectile dysfunction. Yeah. I mean, I have erectile dysfunction, but I'm so fired up all the fucking time. Yeah.

But your, your ED is, is related to anxiety it's just all psychological yeah yeah or maybe i'm just a romantic that too that too um but get it checked it's important for your life yeah get it checked baby you need to be understood when you be understoked in that result. It's good for bone health as you grow older. That's right.

And not just boning health, but that too. Sunning your balls. Yeah, how do you... I haven't sunned my balls lately. That's a lot. If you have low T, you've got low t you gotta imagine because dude you could actually prove if ball sunning works or not yeah right yeah be huge don't do it for a couple weeks yeah go get tested then dude and document the whole thing make a fucking youtube video out of it then sun your nuts for a month straight or whatever the how long you're supposed to do

and then go get your t checked again and we can find out yeah yeah you could be like the new tim ferris bro but like cool no disrespect to tim that'd be sick it's not quite science but yeah chad ferris chad what is your beef of the week my beef of the week uh i don't know if i've talked about this on the pod before but you know when i was pledging my my beef of the week uh I don't know if I've talked about this on the pod before but you know when I was pledging my fraternity um one of the things that the dudes would do

is put some clippers near my dome and just turn them on so I'd be blindfolded and I'd just hear it next to my head and I'd get really upset I'm like you're not gonna shave my dome I told them I was like if it next to my head. And I'd get really upset. I'm like, you're not going to shave my dome. And I told them, I was like, if you guys shave my dome, I'm leaving the fraternity. That's a deal breaker for me.

So you're not shaving my dome. And I don't even like the threat. I'm down to get fucked with, but don't threaten my flow. And now I'm pissed because they didn't even know they weren't even asking for me to do it for a cause you know like we're doing this for the rainforest yeah I should pull up beautiful man I think you look beautiful we're doing this for the rainforest and i think we're helping awareness has been boosted look at this awareness um yeah i'm like i'm like if you're gonna threat me with that attach a cause to it dudes and that

goes for all the people who are you know pledging now or or having pledges now if you're if you're threatening a dome shave attach a cause to it don't just do it because you think that you want to like fuck with this dude you know do it because you want to see them do it for a cause then we'll talk that's what i'm saying dude do it because you believe in it bro yes we will always sacrifice our domes for causes. No, I'm kidding. Dude, if we end up doing this the rest of our life, let's go. Hey, Amazon, I got you, dog. We're coming to fix you. We're starting with our domes, but we're going to get you right as rain, baby.

We're going to fix you up. I love you, the Amazon. Oh, I thought you meant Amazon. Like the company. Dude. Like they were next. We're doing it for you, dudes. We're doing it for you, Amazon.

You guys deliver shit so fast. It's the best. Bezos. Beast. Dude, I'm shaving my pubes for Facebook. I like that. The metaverse. Okay, Aaron, what's your B for the week?

My B for the week is with CBS and Adele. Oh. I don't know why. I've never really had a problem with adele until recently but they hyped this concert that she had that aired last night and this oprah interview so hard um i mean it looked amazing she's she sings great but for whatever reason i just was like okay now i don't like it like i'm i think her music's boring. Uh, I don't know.

It's, it's obviously not for me. And then, you know, a whole Oprah interview. And it, to me, it just sounded like it just felt like someone purposely smelling their own asshole.

Whoa. Yeah. And everyone in the crowd was a celebrity, which I thought was very annoying. If you were watching that from anywhere else in the world, if you had any head on your shoulders if you're just like oh tyler perry then you're fine but like i'm literally like oh so no one in no regular folks could get a ticket to this right um i didn't know about it i wouldn't have

gone but my wife would have gone i had to watch the baby um but i don't know just something about it just stuck me the wrong way so i've been tweeting mean things about dell lately whoa interesting nice i like it i need to see your twitter i had that tweet yeah i gotta check this out i've only re kind of reinvigorated it a little bit lately you're poking the beehive there i've had some thoughts not to say beyonce's audience but no yeah no i can't do that wife would leave me dude my beef of the week is um with jazz music i like the idea of it like i'll read about it and i'm like oh this is cool concepts and it sounds like these are real artists who really think about stuff in an interesting way but when i listen to that stuff i'm like like, nah, dude. You know what I mean? I back you on this. And then it's loud. Yeah.

Like live, like a saxophone or a trumpet live. It's like. And it's like kind of, it's real puncturing. Yeah. And you're just like, Jesus, dude. And you're trying to like talk to someone or like chill. And then it's just like, this dude's just like being so loud. Yeah.

I'm like, you know what? Let's just have just a chill little bass and a you know what let's just how about just a chill little bass and a drums and just a set of mood you know but no they're like hey look at me and i'm just like it's not it's not for me as a theory it's great but then when you listen to it you're just like nah dude yeah i got you who's your babe of the week justin herbert's flow dude i was not that's his name right yep oh yeah the chargers quarterback yeah dude i was not aware of this dude until yesterday whoa whoa that's all i gotta say i saw that flow and i was like oh wow he's cool it was cool it was like cool to, wow. He's cool. It was cool.

It was like cool to witness. And he's a good football player too. I was like, that's pretty awesome, man. Good for you. He is good. He's got great arm talent. He's been slumping a little bit these last two weeks. So maybe you'll boost him with this.

Dude, I DM'd him. I told him how sick his flow is. That's awesome. He didn't get back to me. One day. But maybe Stokers, you know, I'm throwing up the bat signal. Yeah. Because I want to, you know, let him know.

And then I'll be like, dude, would you ever consider shaving a line down? Dude, you could do a funny interview with him about his hair, with you missing some, and just like your sadness about not having it. You're like, what's it like to have amazing hair? He's like, well, you know, you're like, I used to. Yeah. Kind of. Aaron, who's your baby of the week

much better flow than Philip Rivers yeah for sure yeah always kind of Caesar cut my baby of the week is myself

dude let's go I mean they say to practice self-love so I'm doing it you know I know some Stokers hate when I talk

about softball really some do I read the comments sometimes it's a beautiful game I think so too I know some Stokers hate when I talk about softball. Really? Some do. I read the comments. It's a beautiful game. I think so too. And just right now I'm having a bit of a Renaissance as a pitcher.

I'm really working a curve ball pretty well. Whoa. Through, through probably the best one I've thrown all season on Saturday through it to where it started at the batter in the right-handed batter's box, and then hit the exact corner on the other side of the plate and bounced off for a strike. And I just love what I'm doing.

I don't know if people, anyone else on the field is aware of the craft of it. Because nobody else really does. People don't really do it. A lot of people don't want to even try because it's very dangerous the ball can i'm like 40 feet away this ball can come at me super high speeds but there's just something about when i throw the ball with intent to miss the sweet spot or, you know, I just know when a guy's like a really good hitter and I get them to do something,

make it out. They didn't want to make, it's like, I have a piece of that. And you have to, you have to be tactical. Like you have to think, all right,

I throw this pitch cause I'm setting up the next pitch, which will set up this pitch. Yeah. And then when you get them to, I don't necessarily go that far into it. I more about location and right and height and spin this is what i love about sports is when people are craftsmen like canelo alvarez he'll punch a guy in the tummy for like five rounds and look down and then in the sixth round the guy gets used to it he puts his arms in and then canelo hits him in the face yeah and then you're like whoa dude like you were thinking

that entire time while your body was all stressed out and shit yeah and i'm sure it's just it's one of those things that kind of cycles where you you're really good at something for a little bit and then you kind of hit a peak or a or a and then maybe go down a little bit you know but right now it's just it's really working for me and i don't know i don't know how else to say it it's just, it's really working for me. And I don't know, I don't know how else to say it. It's great. And it's, it's not like we've even won every game, but like there've been big outs from just like,

I got that. No one else can maybe see that. That's what it is. That's beautiful. Yeah. Dude, my baby of the week is, um,

is putting gas in your car. I love doing it. And also do when I was grown up everything i ever owned broke you know what i mean i take bad care of things but also like you know you get toys and they stop working after a while you got like a remote control car it works for like a month and then it starts being on the fritz it's like nothing worked consistently so when i got a car i was like it's gonna be the same thing like i couldn't believe the first time i just was out of gas put gas in my car and then turn it on it kept running. I was like, this is fucking amazing, dude

Like these things work all the time. Although I know you had bad luck with the battery But yeah, I had written this before then and then I was like, oh damn Yeah, I went back and it just turned on there you go triple-a there though. Yeah. Oh, I guess it works That happens. Yeah, yeah, but it oh, I guess it works. That happens, yeah. Yeah. But most of the time, it's incredible. You get in your car, you just turn it on. It works like 99.8% of the time.

It is cool. And you just put gas in it. That's a good way to look at it. And they figured it all out. They're like, you just got to pump this gas in it, and it'll keep running. Yeah. For another 5,000 miles or whatever until you need to get checkup. I'm like, dude, that's fucking awesome. Yeah.

That's a good way to look at it for sure. Chad, who's your legend of the week my legend of the week uh chapelle show i've just been watching a bunch of chapelle show it's the greatest i mean some of those sketches never get old they're so funny you can just re-watch them over i mean rick james of course you can just re-watch them over and over again and i've been watching it too and it's like uplifting in a way where it's like he's so uh he comes off in it as so like carefree and like he's really doing what he wants to do and he's like he's got this great mix of like being immature but also like having like something to say which i love because i i love how silly and like how he can just he can

just throw out like you know shit jokes and stuff but it's still hilarious and it's like that that i think that's what makes it kind of so rewatchable and just so him so magnetic it's like oh he's truly just making the show he wants to make right and he's making the jokes he wants to make and he hasn't really give a fuck about how people are going to perceive it although i guess he was stressed out when he's making it but um that that's just as a as an audience member you're watching it you're like like oh this dude really just made his own show no it's hilarious instilled to i mean he does a very different thing now yeah but you always get the feeling when you're watching and i think it's part of what makes him so captivating is that he's truly honoring himself yeah like at every step it never feels like he's ever like

compromising what he thinks or what he thinks is funny he's always like no this is exactly yeah it's unbelievable he can especially in his stand-up so he can just sit there in the silence in that tension and just be like this is exactly what i think right yeah yeah and somehow still make it funny yeah more than almost anyone yeah he's he's amazing eric is your legend of the week my legend of the week i just listened to him on wtf george clooney clean dogs as i call him uh just seems like such a great guy like he's super uh just super fun to listen to he's super, just super fun to listen to. He's super funny and super thoughtful. He just turned 60, which is amazing. He still looks that good. Talking about his wife and how they met.

He's just super earnest and like, dude, I didn't think I was going to meet anyone. I've fallen in love with and I met her. Just like, boom. That's nice. It's amazing. And in the same way they decided to have kids. He's just like, boom, that's nice. It's, it's amazing. And in the same way they had decided to have kids, he just like, yeah, I want to have kids with you. That's it. And then they did. So, um, yeah, just, uh,

just a beast obviously has an amazing career. They, they talk about Michael Clayton, um, of course, which is great. Um, probably the second best movie that year. Yeah. Cause Moneyball came out that year. Or no, maybe it didn't. I think Moneyball came out the year The Descendants came out. Damn it.

Yeah. Was Michael Clayton 08? Yeah, which was a great movie because I think that was There Will Be Blood and No Country and Ratatouille and Once

and Dark Knight. Dark Knight came out that year too? Yeah. Didn't get nominated, but it but should've Assassination of Jesse James I think that's one of the best movie years ever this good Richard Gere movie

The Hoax oh I never saw that oh but I know the story of that yeah it's really good right yeah you know I watched the other days that Brad Pitt

James Gandolfini movie Killing Him Softly yeah what'd you guys think of that did you guys see it it's kind of like too on the nose yeah like it's you know

like it's about like the financial crisis but not like in a direct way but like every time they get into the car it's like a Barack Obama speech or like NPR

I'm like I don't think these gangsters would be listening to that right yeah but it is it's like interesting but I don't think it worked

as a movie yeah yeah great I didn't really buy Brad Pitt as like a stone cold killer dude I was about to say but I don't think it worked as a movie. Yeah, great. I didn't really buy Brad Pitt as a stone cold killer. Dude, I was about to say, I actually don't think Brad Pitt's very good in it. As good as I think he is in Once Upon a Time and Moneyball, I think those are some of the best leading man performances ever. Yeah.

Or I guess he's not a leading man in Once Upon a Time, but I think they're great movie star performances. Yeah. Sorry. I think he's pretty bad and yeah well he just him as a stone cold killer it's just hard to i actually just watched a couple clips from that movie and in the end where he's talking to the richard jenkins character and he's like this is america and in america you get paid now pay me my fucking money and i was like i don't buy it at all

yeah i was like i would not pay you yeah yeah you don't see any evil in him no and then that dialogue's really tough like yeah it's like this gangster like i know i think the sopranos would have handled that like in a more elegant way a little bit yeah a guy that pretty should be evil like patrick bateman yeah not like like a like a vain kind of evil not like a like a gritty evil yeah exactly who would have done it better him or bateman no well yeah i think christian bale actually would have been i think christian bale could actually go that way but i'm trying to think what other actor would have crushed it i thought vigo mortensen because of eastern promise oh vigo mortensen would do it

well yeah yeah it's got to be someone who has a coldness. That character has a real coldness to him. And Brad Pitt kind of has a warmth to him a little bit. Yeah. It'd have to be someone who's a little more, I don't know, emotionally removed. Who's that one guy who's... Willem Dafoe? Maybe Fassbender could have done it. He was probably too young at that time.

Yeah. Again, though, a little too pretty. Yeah, you want someone a little rougher looking? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe when they were younger, it would have been a good Gene Hackman part or Tommy Lee Jones or something like that. Yeah.

I don't know. It's a tough one. Yeah. And then, all right, dude, my legend of the week is, oh, it was you for the Miami Vice thing. I thought that was oh, it was you for the Miami Vice thing. I thought that was awesome. What? You for the Miami Vice thing.

It was the best. We got to it sooner rather than later. Guys, pro tip, if you meet a lady, you're at the bar, order a mojito and show her the Miami Vice boat scene. Automatically romantic. It's the best. You he said this could be us if this isn't your dream yeah then we don't dream the same thing um all right chad what's your quote of the week i kind of want to switch mine up because it was like rick james cocaine is a hell of a drug but that's so everyone knows that

what's uh what's a good quote maybe from the rick james sketch of chapelle show and he's like he's like he's like why why'd you hit me like that he's like because you hit me man that was weeks ago motherfucker i was partying he's like I hit you tonight I'm sorry Charlie Murphy that was weeks ago motherfucker I was partying that is really funny Aaron what's your quote of the week

my quote of the week comes from the song the book of love by the magnetic fields oh this is big. Which I learned is not, I've only heard the Peter Gabriel version. Peter Gabriel covered it like 11 years after it was written in 99. Oh, he did that cover album where he did like Heroes by David Bowie too and like a bunch of songs. Yeah. Yeah.

The Peter Gabriel version is far superior. It's better? Yeah. It's longer too, but I think he just takes his time. But yeah, it's great. Check it superior. It's better? Yeah. It's longer, too. But I think he just takes his time. But yeah, it's great. Check it out if you haven't heard it. It's in the final episode of season eight of Scrubs, which is technically the real show finale.

Make you cry every time. Oh, nice. That show will tug at your heartstrings. Yeah. The covers were like, the new ones way bigger than the original. It's like Tainted Love, All Along the Watchtower, and like Hurt. Although the original Hurt is really good, the Nine Inch Nails version. I might even like that one more than the Johnny Cash version. Which I didn't feel for a while, but now it's swung back the other way.

Yeah. I think the Hurt version of Johnny Cash plays better with the music video. Yeah, the video's incredible. Because you see him. Yeah, because you know he's about to die. And he's got his fucking wife in it. And they're like... They're both about to die.

They're in it to the end. Yeah. Yeah, they died on the same day or something, right? Sweethearts. So verse two just goes, The book of love has music in it. In fact, that's where music comes from. Some of it's transcendental.

Some of it's just really dumb. And I love that. Because the song, The Book of Love, you think is going to be like, oh, it's going to be all positive. Some of it's kind of stupid, like everything.

And that goes along with love and music. Some of it's really stupid. Some of it's, you can't even believe it. That's nice. Yeah. My quote of the week is from my favorite movie of all time, Moneyball.

I'm not saying it's the best movie of all time. I don't even know how I'd rank that, but it's my favorite movie of all time. And it's when, it's my favorite scene. It's when Brad Pitt goes to, and there's not much on relationships in the movie, right? You don't see much, there's no romance or anything like that. It's about these two guys. I saw some cut deleted scenes, and it's one is him having dinner with his girlfriend oh wow

I think that was a good move that they cut it because it really makes it about him and Brant when he goes to pick up his daughter from his ex-wife's house played by the incredible Robin Wright Penn it's so clear what the dynamic is because he walks in and he's like a jock so her first husband was like this jock

he's a smart jock but he's a jo was like this jock. He's a smart jock, but he's a jock. Yeah. And now she's dating this really kind of like defeat, kind of like nebbishy guy, played really well by Spike Jonze. And you're like, oh, she matured up and now she's dating this guy who's probably a lot easier to be around and is kind of gentle. But the guy's like super successful. So I think it's also the movie saying like, this is the kind of guy who thrives in contemporary society oh interesting is like this kind of like wormy kind

of weak guy yeah and like maybe billy beans from this like older time where you know men were like men yeah but the guy billy bean finds out halfway through the car oh and then the guy spike jones he um billy bean's like how have things been here and he's like good very peaceful yeah like kind of like it's very subtle jab because billy bean's not at peace ever in that movie right you know what i mean so i almost think it's that guy being like it's different here i don't have to be like aggro right and then billy bean finds out his kid has a cell phone and he feels bad that he got left out of the parenting decision and then spike jones comes in and like tries to cell phone and he feels bad that he got left out of the parenting decision.

And then Spike Jonze comes in and like tries to be diplomatic. And he's like, oh, well, it's just for emergencies. And, you know, we can talk about it if you're not feeling it. And then Billy Bean goes, yeah, well, me and her mother will have a conversation about it. Yeah. And just kind of like boxes him out. Yeah. Because I think he knows that Spike Jonze isn't being genuine, that he's going to keep

making decisions without consulting him. So he's kind of being like, dude, don't bullshit me. And I find there's so much of that in adult conversation where people are just like, they tell you what you want to hear, but they actually don't intend to do it. And I think Billy Beane was like, no, I'm not letting you do that. You know what I mean? But I think in the end, Spike Jonze is probably going to win

because he's around the kid more. So it's even sadder like when Brad Pitt takes her to get the guitar because you're like oh yeah you do have like a smaller influence

in her life right and he's always frustrated by his he doesn't have the influence he wants he can't make all the decisions he wants

yeah and then but then what I also think is interesting is that like Spike Jonze's character sorry I'm going to go for a while here guys

Spike Jonze's character is like probably a tech guy you know they're in Oakland so Brad brad pitt's like the old school thinker but he's actually using new thinking and trying to bring it into baseball so he's really not that different like he's also i think the movie's basically saying like we want straightforward talk but we want it without ignorance because billy bean's not ignorant at all he's like open to new ideas yeah and i just thought that was like i'm just like this is the smartest movie of all time yeah i was always confused i was like because he sends his daughter on a plane i'm like does she do they live in a

different city oh that's interesting it does he send her back to visit to see the mom that's what i think although he does pick her up from their house, so I don't think he'd fly there. Yeah, I was assuming they were like a Silicon Valley couple. So I'm like, where is the daughter flying to? I guess that was my question. And I think the movie likes, like, I think it's critiquing masculine types because you're watching all these guys at the office

just go at each other. Everyone at the Oakland place basically says what they think. All of his subordinates are like, your ideas are stupid yeah and he's like well you got to listen to him and then it's like real and then Spike Jonze is like the only character in it who's like oh yeah we can talk about it another time and I hear you and stuff like that yeah but it's like I don't think he's actually yeah yeah very peaceful yeah he says very peaceful I was like and then Billy kind of rolls his eyes he's like i didn't realize that was robin wright i think that's her yeah was that persuasive at all no no you don't think all that was in play or it just doesn't matter oh no all that's in play in

the scenes sure i don't even know if that's what's on the page but i think the actors made that happen i think this is the defining debate of our podcast along with in and out verse five guys And so your your beef with money ball Is that it doesn't give enough truth to what actually happened? Which is that they had a dominant pitching staff that year tim hudson mark molder barry zito And they had some other good hitters who weren't necessarily they had sabermetrics of the league tahata I remember his year that year. Yeah yeah and they don't mention tahata but you got to think about them just as a movie like what if you were an alien and you saw it yeah i would be a little bit bored

it's a baseball movie that rarely has baseball in it it's about so much more than just baseball but it's also really about baseball it's Can baseball be analytical and romantic at the same time? Because it's humans do that. Yeah. Thanks, man. I have a question, Aaron. Yeah. Do you like Brad Pitt?

I do. I like him a lot. I think you do. I do. I think you do. I do. 12 Monkeys? He's great in that.

Dude, he's amazing in Moneyball. He is everything i find it weird well not i don't find it weird it's not billy bean's fault that brad pit got cast as billy bean yeah i heard it is billy i heard billy bean said he didn't want anyone else to play him besides brad pitt then i do take then i do take umbrage because it's like how dare you no i love the confidence of it. And dude, his, his real number two in real life, I think his name is like Peter Despazio or something.

He ended up being a GM for Cleveland and football. He took his name off of it when they said Jonah Hill's playing him. Yeah. Cause I think he was basically like, I'm not fat. Yeah. He's like, I look more like Brad Pitt than this guy. He's like, my guy, you gotta get Ryan Gosling to play me. And they're like no we're

going for like an odd couple things like fuck it take my name off it's like i'm a fucking beast bro i watched some press conferences where they're talking about the movie and the way they handle that with jonah's like yeah you know that's a different name chad what's your phrase of the week for getting after it for getting after it let's get a mojito nice eron uh chad said it earlier and i loved it let's go in unfettered nice dude my quote of the week i thought of it when you were trying to think of your my phrase of the week for getting after i thought of it when you were trying to think of your, my phrase of the week for getting after, I thought of it when you were trying to think of your quote of the week is a share.

Do you believe in life after love? I can see something inside yourself says I really don't think you're strong enough. No. Do you believe in life after love i can feel something inside myself says i really don't think you're strong enough no do i have to give a disclaimer to put turn down the volume on this podcast before that no no i'll i'll it. Press it before we do that. Thanks, man. Is that brutal in your ears?

Just at that, just the one note. Which note? A flat. Do you believe in love after love? That sounds good. I can feel something inside. Go, baby, no, stay in it. Inside me saying,

I really don't think you're strong enough, no. Give me one more. I think you got more in you. Do you believe in love after the world went down? That was nice. I want to keep going, but I feel like J.K. Simmons in Whiplash. I'm like, come on, come on, come on. Why do you suspect I just hurled a chair at you?

What is his name? I don't know, but he's like so abusive. Why do you suspect I just hurled a chair at you? What is his name? I don't know, but he's so abusive. Why do you suspect I just hurled a chair at your head, Neiman? It wouldn't be weird if he pulled out a gun and just shot someone in the head in that movie. Does anyone want to know why I just shot that motherfucker in the head? Dude, there's one part where the World Series of Dice and Chappelle show and charlie murphy like robs the game he's like you want this cash you're gonna have to shoot me he's like okay he just shoots him in the leg it's funny she's in the leg that's funny yeah yeah aaron also dude we should say this before

we sign off wait hold on hold on oh sorry no you're. You're good. Aaron, so last week when Strider totally bungled the draft by picking Unforgiven, prior to that, he said, hey, the movie I'm about to pick is going to make Aaron jizz. And he told us before the podcast, you were actually ready to make a jizz noise because you were so confident he was going to say Top Gun. Yeah. But because he didn't say Top Gun and he went with actually the worst pick of the draft. No, sorry, Strider. You didn't get to bust.

You didn't make your bust noise. Yeah, I don't know what it would have been at the time if you're trying to get me to do it now. That's what you're trying to do. Yeah, well, can you just make a bust noise? I mean, yeah, you kind of, you did see where I was going with that a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I sniffed that out pretty good. But you don't feel like it's like organic in this moment? I don't.

Okay. Is there something we could say? Yeah, is there something i could throw you out of nowhere okay what if i went and we don't have to belabor this but what if i went you know what moneyball is kind of a stale movie oh god that's you coming no that was great though dude thank you for doing that man you really went there wait can you thank you dude i just love the heart man i love the heart there's a lot of heart in that bust maybe just do one where they oh oh

see i'm bad at this I always do it too real Kevin was getting mad at me for my humping we were shooting this scene he's like you're humping oh no you did too after I did it he's like that freaked me out I was like dude I just hump real yeah they were like doing like fun humping and then I kept humping things and I was like oh

and they were like dude stop I like playing it real yeah I guess I'm supposed to be more like And they were like, dude, stop. I like playing it real. Yeah. I guess I'm supposed to be more like... That's bad too, right? I'm just bad at it, dude. Hold on, let me try to be funny doing it. I can't do it.

Dude, yeah. I'm bad at humping. You're too genuine. Yeah. The only way I like to hump fake is like I got to just sell it real. I'm just like... The only way I like to hump fake is like I gotta just sell it real. I'm just like Oh Oh

Yeah Oh Oh Maybe that's, is this funny? Oh That's good Is that better? Yeah

Okay, so I can play the genuine but in a comical, yeah Oh Oh Oh Is that funny? Yeah Okay, good, I'm learning You didn't think i could do it did you dad i figured it out i know how to hump now oh man i wish we could shoot that again i would hump like

that oh i get it there's a real art to it that's's craft. All right. All right. Good pod. Good pod. All right, dudes. Keep writing reviews. Give us those reviews. Say what up. And stay stoked. And just live your life.

Have fun. Yeah, baby. Tell my people who be living it up, I said, what do I do? Hit me in the screws. Guys, guys. Guys, guys. Guys, guys. I know, I know, I know. Who's your favorite? Strider. Who's your legend? Joe, what's your quote of the week? Chad, what is your beef of the week? Aaron, who's your favorite?

Strider. Who's your legend of the week? Joe, what's your quote of the week? Chad, what is your beef of the week? Aaron, who's your favorite? Strider. Who's your legend of the week? Joe, what's your quote of the week?

Strider. Strider. Strider. Strider. Strider. Strider. Strider. Strider. Joe, what's your question? Thank you. And who's your strider? Joe, what's your strategy?

Chad, what is your need for the week? And who's your strider? Joe, what's your strategy? Last question. Last question.

Give me the screen. Last question. Last question. Guys, guys, last question. Give me the screws. Bye.