Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 232 - Will Forte Joins

Episode Date: March 30, 2022

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Yeah, sounds great. Sweet. All right. Tickle my taint and tell me it's Tuesday. What's up, Stokers of Stoke Nation? This is Chad Kroger coming in with the going deep chat jt podcast i got my compadre sean thomas what up boom clap stokers and we're here with our guest will forte thank you for coming on the pod thank you for having me on the pod we're're fired up, dude. This is huge.

Yeah. I got to start off by so in our podcast, we do a quote of the week at the end. And for the past few months, every quote has been from MacGruber. What are some of the quotes? It's been a fucking asshole of a day.

What else? Whenever I get asked this question, I can't remember. You did the coffee one last week with the tea. Oh, the Tazo tea. The tea. Yeah. Well, to this day, that was my buddy John john solomon was the one who pitched the taso t thing so every time i see taso t i have to have to take a picture of it and send it to john

immediately he just won a writer's guild award for uh he's a part of the uh uh the group that writes uh i think you should leave now oh oh nice amazing so yeah yeah but so john solomon the three macgruber writers excuse me are uh uh john solomon yorma taconi and me and john and yorma split all the directing duties oh cool yeah he's they're they're amazing and uh they should be on here too but but I'll be I'll be their mouthpiece for any related stuff yeah I uh I mean it's it's one of my favorite movies in college it was like our group of friends it was our favorite movie that we just quoted all the time and uh the one thing i love about it is it seems like you guys had you really made the movie that you wanted to make like it seems like you took total sort of creative control and and really sort of just put out

something that you wanted to make no we were we, we had all been in situations before where we got kind of forced to make changes to things. And so it was very, we went in hopeful that we would be able to like not be jerked around like, like that again. And Lauren was just awesome. Lorne Michaels, the head of SNL obviously, he just, he basically kind of just, you know, surrounded us and just paved the way for this artistic freedom. And the budget was small enough so that we got kind of left alone. And a couple of little things they were trying to get us to do but but uh lauren helped us kind of uh just protected protected us so we got to

just do all the crazy stuff we wanted to do i mean the only restrictions were financial restrictions you know the budget was only so big so we had to change around a lot of stuff but i but some of that stuff i think helped the movie like there was there was a much bigger uh scope scene which cost too much money so it ended up turning into that uh ripping the guys throat out uh the cup of water thing that you know where you think it's going to be this big trap but it's the little dixie cup of water falls down and you're all wet um and we were i think we were happy that with the shittier less expensive version of that scene than than whatever we were planning which i can't even remember what it was now but there were a bunch of little things like that but other than that they yeah they really let us it just left us alone it's kind of the same thing with the the new tv series like uh peacock was was awesome and very

supportive of of letting us just do crazy crazy and and pretty risque stuff yeah the the show is so good it was and it's so not like i just spent the holidays watching it and and i was i was kind of wondering like were there any bits that you guys pitched or whatever that you know they rejected they're like that's way too aside from the sort of financial restrictions where they just like that's way too out there you guys can't do that not really because uh no they were very supportive i mean we we self-police ourselves uh pretty pretty well um you know as as fucked up as the thing is we we certainly want to be responsible and we don't want to put anything out there that's um

that's offensive um in a way that doesn't uh align with our core values if that makes sense I mean I know that's weird to talk about with MacGruber but but you know I know there was like there was you know what there was something in the movie that there was the joke where we're going after the team and we cross off the guy who's gay in the movie. And that always kind of stuck with me in a bad way. That was not how I feel as a person, but we kind of chose the joke over stuff. And if I could go back, I would take that out. So we were just a little more you know careful with

you know stuff like that like we just wanted to make because we knew that we could do stuff that was fucked up that also didn't uh you know was was true to uh you know that didn't hurt hurt uh that didn't hurt any people for dumb reasons. That's tough too because you can see MacGruber feeling that way even if you don't necessarily feel that way. I think we justified it by saying

MacGruber's offensive and offends a lot of people. I think that's kind of why we we were okay with it but i don't know if i if i did it again if we did again that that wouldn't be in there i was wondering too when i got these two yeah they're on the pod awesome but they're this guy's pretty... This guy's...

Okay, I'm going to let him out outdoors real quick. He has a door right here. Just going to shut him up. His name is Mudbutt. Mudbutt? Yeah, my now wife and I, we were watching some kind of movie and it was a bunch of dogs

and one of them we thought was named Mudbutt. So we were like, oh, that's the best name for a dog. We ever had dogs. We had the the first dog, the mellow dog, Ross, who is named Ross because she found him outside of Ross Dress for Less when he was a puppy. Somebody just like left him in a cardboard box and said, take me home. But Mudbutt but we said oh we gotta if we ever get another dog and then of course we kept watching the movie and it became

clear that his name was mud bud with a d and we were like nope still gotta be mud like it was so so he he's like two now or or two two in a couple months but still has that puppy dumb ass energy puppy energy do you think dogs like personalities fulfill their names like do you think ross acts more like a ross and mud butt acts more like a mud butt that's there might be something to that i mean ross is also old and like you know if it was reversed and he was mud butt he's getting to the the age where there's probably some dog incontinence which which uh is gonna set in so you know probably still would would uh be true to the name that's good um in our own brains, yeah,

we probably make those connections in our brains when you're calling the dogs that enough. But yes, I think there's something to that. Nice. Where did you live before LA and before New York, like before you got into entertainment? I grew up in Northern California outside San Francisco, about a half hour east.

A place called Lafayette and Moraga. And then went to UCLA in 88. And basically just kept moving further and further west until I ended up in Santa Monica and then got the SNL job as I was living in Santa Monica. So would kind of go back and forth. And it wasn't just a year ago I moved to Mar Vista. So I had been in Santa Monica for like 25 years. Was Troy Aikman the quarterback at UCLA when you were there?

He was the quarterback. He was a senior my freshman freshman year so we were number one in the country for a little bit and then we it was so exciting and then we somehow lost to Washington State who I'm pretty sure was not very good at that time so we got knocked out of number one and then we lost at USC I think too so we so we all these great hopes took a tumble yeah and you were were you roommates or fraternity brothers with Matt Rice I lived uh we I was in a fraternity and he was in the fraternity next door so I was a high alpha he was a uh ZBT and so we got to know each other just from living for four years right next to each other. And then I started dating one of his best friends, this girl Amanda. And so we became better friends then. But yeah, he's my literary literary agent so that was that like he's I wouldn't uh have done any

anything in in comedy if not for him because he he went into uh being an agent and and he was like I started writing uh writing things but had no confidence about them and basically just said oh I know this guy who's a literary agent maybe I'll show him the stuff and and uh and see and and thank god he liked them because if he had said he didn't like them I probably just would have said oh I guess I shouldn't be doing this and and uh like you know move back up north but but uh and then it just so happened that he you know he was he's an amazing agent but back then he was just like an assistant to somebody so I just got really lucky that's cool and and so you you started writing on that was that 70s show your first gig or were you like and how did you break through into there through like packets and all

that kind of stuff my first job was uh uh the jenny mccarthy sketch show on mtv um which was really fun and the uh like do you know john benjamin yeah it's john benjamin he was one of the writers so so i've known him since 96 or whatever and john glazer yeah it was another another one and then and then a bunch of uh other fun writers it was it was a great first job and i went from there to i got to work at letterman for a while which was you know he's one of my heroes so that was awesome and then and then came back to la and wrote it on a couple sitcoms the army show which which uh was fun but only lasted 13 episodes and a show called action on box which was oh the jay moore show the jay moore show yep and now he plays a scuzzy producer yeah yeah that only went 13 episodes and then uh

and then uh got to go over to third rock from the sun uh and and for their their last like two seasons before they ended the show by their choice and then got to move over to 70 Show from there because it was the same producers and they asked me to move over to 70 Show. So that was where I was when I got a chance to audition for SNL. And did you always have, like when you sort of got into the business,

did you have sort of acting aspirations, right? Like, what did you see for yourself going in, or did you just want to do comedy in general? Man, I, you know, I think when I went in, I was thinking that it'd be, I was thinking more about performing, but I wanted to, to do both, but, but then as I started getting writing jobs I loved it I loved that that was fantastic and and then it seemed to make more sense in my life like oh maybe I'm maybe I'm just a gonna just write and that was totally fine so this SNL audition thing um really came out of nowhere and and screwed up my whole ad because I was I was actually terrified because um uh the experience at Letterman while I was super honored to get to write there I I didn't I didn't feel like I did a great job and it was pretty,

it wreaked a lot of psychological havoc because I was like, oh my God, I've got this great job at 70 Show. Do I take a chance to go to SNL and suck at it and then get fired and then that's a second dream that's crushed like the first dream was like uh go to you know when i was going to letterman i was like oh you know do a great job at letterman and and be there for a long time and you know maybe become the head writer you know who knows just you know you're imagining just getting to work with one of your heroes and and

and while I did get to work with one of my heroes I just didn't do a good job so I left there like oh I freaking botched that one um so it was it was it was terrifying to to uh to think about blowing another one of these you know lifelong dreams but but I um I auditioned I ended up auditioning I almost didn't even audition because I was I didn't want to like you know 70 show as I had said before like I was on all these shows that kept going 13 episodes and out so we keep moving around and 70 show was the first one that i went to that was i think they had just gotten picked up for two seasons so you know this this job security which i had never experienced and it's like i kind of leave this show which i feel so comfortable at and secure and it's really it was a super fun show to work at and and unusually good hours for

a writing job and so I I got the job at SNL but then turned it down the first season just thinking oh I think I should take the safer route and then thank god they came back the next year and i just said uh wait hang on one second let me let this dog back in all right all right so yeah so so then i ended up just going for it and and i'm so so happy I did it was a good good life lesson it just not everything's done yeah well when you turned it down and you were did you regret it like that one year like when you were watching SNL were you like oh shit I should be on there right now or did you kind of just oh yeah right I I mean there was relief at first because like I didn't have to do it and I was

you know it was just a frightening thing to think about because I had been so I had just been off stage for a long time I mean I would do an occasional show at the Groundlings, but you know, you got those writer schedules

are pretty nuts and our Friday, our tape nights for a 70s show were Fridays. So that took out, that basically took out any opportunity to do any of the Groundling shows because you have to commit to several months of friday and saturday shows so so there are oh my god these guys are they're doing that shit mud butt actually it's just mud butt ross is being an angel and they just like they they they get there's this place that I'm staying at in Albuquerque is pretty big they could like fuck around in any room yeah um uh oh my, I lost my train of thought. So anyway, like I was,

the only times I get a chance to perform on stage would be during our hiatus, you know, you'd have like two months of hiatus period before you'd get back into the next season. And so, you know, I'd go do a show then and just happened that Lauren, the story I always heard was that he was supposed to go to a wedding that somehow got canceled. So he usually he'll send like back then it was Marcy Klein. Now it'd be Lindsay Strickland.

But he'd send different representatives to see Groundlings shows or like, you know, if they were in Chicago, they'd go see Second City or, you know, UCB in New York. But this time he was actually at the show and I had a good show. And so we invited like four or five of us to audition. I forget why I started talking about that. Which, did you have to do impressions at the audition? Yes. Oh, I remember why it was. It was to say that I

was out of practice for acting stuff, so it was nerve-wracking. But yeah, so I think they say come in and do three impersonations, three characters, three original characters um but i'm not very good at impersonations so i just did i did four characters and two impersonations who's your impersonator i won't make you do it oh my god i'm really bad so i did i can't even remember the voice i did, but I did Martin Sheen. And I said, like, hi, I'm Martin Sheen. I've had a little bit of a cold, so if I don't sound like myself, it's because of the cold.

But if I do sound like myself, it's just disregard. So, will you guys shut up? Well, they're doing a squeak toy right here. But I'm going to throw the squeak toy in the other oh my god what what are you working on out there uh i just got here so we were at we were here to make mcgruber the tv show over the summer and uh yorma stayed in this house that i would always bring the dogs to because the yard is big for the dogs and then then my then fiance at the time we threw together a last minute wedding and we got

married in the backyard so now i'm staying at his place here um and the movie i'm doing it's called coyote versus acne cool and it's uh i basically play uh wiley coyote's lawyer through the acne company oh that's awesome john cena is the lawyer of the acne company company. Wow, that would be great. Yeah, it's really fun. And I just got to meet Lana Condor the other day, who will be working with us together. We're co-workers in this. So it's a fun group.

I'm excited. We start shooting it Monday. Oh, you start shooting Monday. Oh, cool yeah yeah yeah and then oh go ahead jt no you go down no that's unrelated go ahead so you and john cena you guys are going head to head do you have like a i mean i know you can't spoil the movie but is it like uh like a classic kind of legal battle where you guys both have like big opening statements and closing statements and you make like a... As of now, there will be stuff like that in there. I don't, yeah, I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to say either.

I can say that I've not met him yet. He's coming in like we uh we're starting with I think he comes in in about a week and a half um I'm excited to meet him I've heard he's super cool and I I just got done watching uh uh Peacemaker and it's so good yeah have you guys seen Peacemaker uh I gotta watch it oh my god you'll uh uh if you like mcgruber i think you'll really like beatmaker it you know it's totally different but it feels like i don't know it it felt felt like a you know that kind of tone is yeah what we're going for it's it's really fun have you been studying lawyers like did you watch like did you watch like to

kill a mockingbird are you like studying lawyers to uh get the uh that aspect of it in there no i i i mean i've seen to kill a mockingbird i've never seen it i just feel like you know over the course of my life i wait you've never seen to kill a mockingbird no but it's a lawyer thing right atticus yeah oh my god it's so good i would i'd probably watch like people versus flint i think that's like if i was looking the lawyer up or maybe my cousin vinny but there's so many some somebody was just talking about the verdict the other day which is that's a good one i've never seen it i can't get i've never finished it but i've watched 10 minutes of it i always watch it's like that's a good one yeah i'm just gonna get the ball rolling i know it's like david mamet and

sydney lamette so i'm like oh this must be amazing but then every time i put it on i pass out before like 10 minutes uh i mean you know a lot of times when you um over the course of your life if you've seen enough of these movies or just you know lived your life and you know you this by osmosis that you kind of know what a lawyer does and it's and and then if they write the script well enough it seems just it's pretty obvious what you're supposed to do and this was a case of them writing a you know just doing a great job with their writing so it's pretty laid out for you but but um but that's a good idea i think i might i mean i want to watch the verdict anyway so so maybe i'll watch that watch a couple

lawyer lawyer things beforehand but it's also like it's the the whole thing is, it's the, you know, the Looney Tunes world. So it's, you know, Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner. And it's kind of like a Who Framed Roger Rabbit type thing where it's live action with animated stuff mixed in. It'll be really fun it's really it's it's I'm excited about it but I've probably already said too much I don't know I do not want

to get I have not signed any kind of NDA so I guess I yeah you can let us know afterwards if you said too much we can yeah we can edit it out no no no i think we're pretty you know i even got nervous like saying can i say that john cena's in this but then i remembered like john cena was the first like there was i think a big announcement

that he was out there and then and then when when lana and and i joined on there was i remember seeing something that you know announcement so i think i'm safe yeah it seems to be a big thing and like because we've dealt with that too in like hollywood it's like what can you say about what you're working on and then i get so paranoid about that stuff you know because i'm like can i even like say like this much for that you know i just oh yeah well i mean shit i i understand like i don't want to give away any spoilers uh yeah we did last man on earth um i mean nowadays spoilers are not as big a deal because so much stuff is streaming and uh drops all at the same time but but like for a show like last man on earth or or shows that still do drop weekly just one episode

per week it it was so it was such a fight to keep your spoilers because um and i understand why fox would always want to um kind of ruin the spoilers because they want the advertising for, you know, they want the promo of saying, oh, this person's in the show, which totally makes sense. But, but, but we would love for last man on earth to like, to not have, for people not to have any idea that, that, you know, like we got Will Ferrell in the show and to come and be pretty instantly killed and then later Jack Black and John Hamm did the same thing and Martin Short and and one of the

things that you know a lot of times that the reason they would do it is because you say yeah it's going to be a total surprise we're not going to promote you all over the place we just want people to just you know always it's we for us it's kind of fun for people to think oh if i watch this show you never know when something's gonna happen because they're not gonna promote it so um box was probably right we probably should have promoted it because the the it would have helped the ratings and we might have been able to keep going but we i mean we got four seasons but but uh yeah this is a good run it's such a good show i appreciate spoilers yeah is there a favorite type of character you like to play or is there sort of an ideal character that you want to play in the future that you've always sort of dreamt about?

I don't know. I mean, I guess I'm, uh, geez, I don't know. I mean, I like, I love the opportunity to try new things. That's really fun. But I guess the stuff that I am probably most comfortable playing are weirdo characters like you know we just mentioned i think you should leave now that if you've seen that i did this crazy character on a on an airplane that seems like my kind of dude or you know back at snl the the hamilton or ham Hamilton's yeah you know um the the guy that I got to do when I just got to go back and host and I did this uh singing character with Kristen Wiig, Clancy T. Baclarat, Jackie Snad and and just things like that are always fun for me the weirdos with mustaches and and uh no hair right up here but long hair here right that's kind of my ideal it's based around a haircut yeah i like that you can well that person when you see someone with that hairdo you are like all right there's

a lot going on over there this guy can go in a lot of different directions i want to take that person out to dinner and just just say okay start from birth can you pinpoint where those characters came from for you like why you have such a an affinity for them like uh is it like in contrast to who you actually are or where does it come i mean i'm sure it's like immediately i go oh yeah it's nothing like me but then i'm sure there's there are a go, oh yeah, it's nothing like me, but then I'm sure there's, there are a ton of similarities. I don't know, I just like, I like weird stuff. I don't, I, that's an interesting question

cause I don't know why or where it came from, but just over the years, I would say that anybody who's gone through the Groundlings or Second City, you just kind of do enough sketches that you are kind of naturally pulled in certain directions. And that was kind of the direction that I got pulled was weirdo absurd absurd guys and then when you're improvising from like one of the as one of those characters you go to such wild places like like in the in mcgruber when you do like the just tell me what you want me to fuck scene i every which is hilarious one of my favorite scenes like ever but like when you're doing that is is that what's

on the page or are you finding that as you're going that that particular scene was all on the page that's crazy how did how did you write that we you know we. Yeah, we just talk it through. I mean, you know, certainly there would be times when we'd improvise, but, like, we had enough time on that to write so that we could really get specific with what we were trying to... Oh, my God. Hang on one second.

What are you doing? Why are you doing this this you're ruining the podcast oh my god they took like if i'm not doing this they don't they don't really do this unless i'm doing something that that i'd like to not be disturbed during right they want attention yeah but no no no that that you know we we, we don't have a, like the, the schedule on, on MacGruber, we made that movie in, uh, 28 days. Like there was, uh, and, and we just got lucky that, that Yorma, back then, John, John, although John went to film school and is a very talented director he he was Yorma directed Yorma got to direct the whole movie and then John and Yorma split the the series but like Yorma did such a good job with this guy Brandon Trost who was our

our DP and figuring everything out like even despite a you know a not huge budget I felt like they made the movie look really expensive you know they they were going after like the old 80s action movie uh you know every scene the streets were wet you know we had to duck down all the streets and and the rooms were always filled with smoke you know even if you're in a bank vault with no possible like it just everything was was smoked out it uh but anyway so so you had very little time uh to experiment now that said we would you know we would some you know every once in a while do takes where you might have a little extra time to do a a fun run and and just kind of fuck around with stuff and and but but like you you we we had to

be aware that we we didn't have a ton of time for each scene we just had to go in knowing exactly what we wanted if you had extra time to improvise a little that'd be great so we we uh you know that stuff that stuff was pretty pretty written out the the sex scenes are so iconic too in that movie was written every grunt wow well was that was that inspired by any particular movie or how did you guys or is that just something you had the i i went to uh uh my my buddies carrie and kristin did this show called campus ladies you remember that i think i think it was on oxygen um this was this would have been in like

2000 you know somewhere in the early going jonah hill was on it um it might have been his first thing i don't that that was uh first time I remember seeing him, but I got to meet him there. He's a very, very nice guy. But they did this show where they're these, you know, moms going back to school, going back to college and they're, it's really fun but anyway i had to have an orgasm scene with one of them so i i that was they said really really go for it and that was what ended up happening so when we we were doing a sex scene i'm like oh shit i gotta call and ask them if it's okay to do that and they said oh yeah go for it so that was just kind of based on you know this thing i had done for campus ladies oh gotcha yeah it's so fun and then the villain names too like did you guys go into writing this series

knowing that you wanted the villain to be queeth or did you workshop that we had we had um a lot like pretty soon after the movie bombed at the box office and uh we we regrouped uh me and john and norman said like you know what let's make sure that this is not the you know the last chapter in this book let's make let's let's i don't know you know who knows how we're gonna do it um but let's make sure we do the group again we just we we're proud of it and we uh we stood by it it was like you know what fuck this i this is we like this and we think it's good. And so let's force people to watch another one. Even if it's like shot on our iPhones. So we, so Queeth pretty early on,

I think Jorma pitched that to Queeth. And that stuck. It was like, oh yeah. And his first name should definitely be Enos. How not? like oh yeah and his first name should definitely be Enos how how not it's I mean I've been laughing about that since it came out you know I I had forgotten this but the the way we came up with uh how cunts uh came to be was that we were making i can't remember what that it was an snl commercial and and i think bill hater was the maitre d or the or the host at a restaurant i came in and had to you know we're we're i think just glorified extras in this commercial so we're just sitting around most of the time messing around and i signed you know dr dr cunt in in the book just to make him laugh and i i'm pretty sure

that's how that name came about right um yeah so good um uh jt do you have something uh no go ahead all right so uh and you're kind of just to pivot a little bit you're kind of a um superstitious kind of or do you have super like kind of basically are you superstitious and does that play into your life a lot i would say i'm probably more it's more like ocd than superstition although although that that they're kind of um they're kind of cousins of each other those two things probably uh um you know i do a lot of checking locks checking checking to make sure stoves are off checking to make sure water is not running. It's a real pain in the ass getting out of a house with me because I usually make my wife come with me and say, okay, watch me as I do my checklist because it's all checking

things and patterns. Yeah. Yeah. patterns and yeah yeah i yeah i think i think too uh being in in this business kind of because i have those kind of like tendencies as well more on the superstition side and i think being in this business kind of like fuels that in a weird way when you're sort of waiting for that to you what what are your superstitions i look at numbers a lot. And I like, like, threes of numbers, you know, if I see like three, three, three, or I'll be like, oh, today's gonna be a good day. If I see 666, like freak out. 666, like it's, I was, I was raised Catholic.

So, so I mean, for sure, 666, it's, it's, that's always like, a number to avoid, for sure 666 it's it's uh that's always like a number to avoid for sure yeah i'm the devil's number yeah oh yeah it for sure is the devil's number but how did it become the devil's number uh because the bible and i i don't know what i wonder if I I don't know the bible well enough but it must signify you know the mark of the beast six six uh six jackals and six I don't know right for sure six locusts is in knowing the bible and iron maiden well enough i do know that 666 is the number of the beast wait wasn't there is it uh the omen that 666 is is uh like in his in his head yeah in the little kid's head it's engraved in his down piece yeah just says 666 on his scalp yeah i think they find it in his hair like uh that movie that's that's one of my all-time favorite scary movies i've only seen the new one with liam schreiber

oh really oh my god the original is i mean i'm not no trash it i didn't like it that much i think i don't i'm not sure if i saw it i might have seen little parts of it but i definitely saw the original and i stand by the original do you that would be a huge bummer if you had a baby and it was the devil's baby i think so that'd be like worst case because you still have to love it and try to raise it as best you could but we thought for a while that mudbutt was maybe a dog devil baby like like it really like he he did have there's just this look in his eyes that's that's you can't read but but sometimes it reads as slightly demonic or majorly demonic right but it's like you know you can't really do

you can't communicate with human words so it's like we don't know if he's you know barking out he's like no this is just how i look i'm actually totally true yes that's true you guys have dogs no i wanted that my my mom has golden retrievers which i love yeah and um i've been wanting to get a dog for you know a couple years but i'm sort of just waiting for the right time to do it yeah i grew up with dogs and then when i went to college they stayed with my folks and then i didn't i didn't have one again until i i uh started dating the woman who's now my wife and she had that one dog and it's it's the best but also it's a kind of a pain in the ass too like you you certainly don't have the freedom that

that you did when you didn't have a dog but now that's what i worry about it's like where there's where we are all kinds of yeah how old's your baby she's like uh 13 months oh fun oh she's awesome she's it is the best did you always want to be a dad or? I did want to be a dad way earlier. I thought I'd be a dad. You know, you just kind of grow up thinking that whatever your parents do is probably what, what you'll do. I mean,

unless your parents are mass murderers or something. So I was thinking, oh yeah yeah i'll get married at 23 like my parents and and have uh my first kid at 25 and then i then i was the second kid at 27 so i i that that seemed normal to me and uh and then as i got a little bit older i I was like, oh, my God, I'm falling behind. And then I started feeling like in the same way that I kind of felt like, oh, maybe I'm just going to be a writer and gave up on acting. I just thought, oh, maybe it's not in the cards for me to be a dad. And then and then it just kind of, you know, met this awesome woman Olivia and uh and uh it all kind of went from there so uh yeah but I I I thought I would have a kid way before 51. Yeah did you sort of being in like Hollywood and stuff did you ever have the mentality of like oh I gotta you know be selfish for a while

to sort of get to a certain level and then I can think about that stuff or you're always kind of just like oh I'd like to be a dad I'm just waiting for the right person I don't think it was uh I it never was a conscious choice to choose career over family but like you you do just get really busy and you're working really hard and and it kind of is an unconscious choice career or family but but i you know certainly i feel like if i was in the right head space and had met the right person earlier um you know i would have i would have you know gotten married or or something but it just you know, I would have, I would have, you know, gotten married or something, but it just, you know, everything works out the way it's supposed to. And I can't imagine it being different than the way that it has worked out because it's, you know, I'm super happy and,

you know, have an awesome wife and this amazing little baby and uh who knows maybe we'll have another one not be fun you get a full brew yeah are you guys that you guys want to uh have families yeah for sure yeah yeah i think so yeah i do have a bunch of kids i feel like i'm looking forward to like um and you can tell me if this clicks but i i feel like it does like i'm looking forward to to maybe not being like number one in my priority list and having something else that kind of supersedes me but that it's also me you know like it's still it's got my dna in there so i feel extra incentivized to look after him or her and yeah i mean that sounds good yes it it is it's the most grounding thing to have a kid it's you know i i um when i went to to snl to when they let me host which was super exciting it was very

stressful like it's you know you're coming back I hadn't I mean I guess I had been on stage since I you know 2010 when I left a couple times like you know being a part of a of wigs opening monologue when she hosted and just a couple little times coming back but like this it was a big deal in my head and i was very stressed i didn't want to like majorly blow it and uh so each night i'd come home and just be really stressed. And then you'd see this old baby and just it all just everything goes woo. It's just the, your mind is instantly taken off of all the stresses of the world and your priorities.

It just reshifts your your priorities and and uh it's it's awesome it's really awesome nice when snl people say it's like a stressful kind of experience being on it right like you'll hear that from former cast members when they do um interviews and whatnot is it is it just because of the one week turnaround and then the flying without a net of the live of it? Like what makes it feel, it almost feels like sports or something like that in terms of like the pressure and the environment.

Did it? Oh yeah. No, it's, I mean, there are so many different things that go into the stress of it it's you know you're you don't have a ton of time to write stuff so it's this race to get stuff written and and and then you know everything is you know it's a pretty short week to to put together a whole show and you get used to the the the pressure of it but it's you know you only have one shot you can do it perfectly all week but you if you blow it during the live show that's the one that people see so it's it's there's the stress of that but it's but you also kind of loosen up

with that stuff because it's you know i feel like lauren used to say that that or maybe this was just me no i think he he you would or or maybe it was steve higgins some somebody said why are you so stressed out if you make a mistake people love mistakes like we're doing a live show that's that's fun for people to see mistakes not that you want to shoot to for for making a mistake but like what's the worst thing that could happen is something enjoyable for the audience to see um you know to see to remind them that this is a live show so that that was a good thing to hear um and that it really you know loosened up the pressure yeah and i feel that in your performances almost across across the board where there is like a fearlessness in it where it seems like you're very unafraid of making a mistake or going outside of like that's coming across because inside the person doing that

sketch is a great fear of making a mistake but yeah i mean i was so terrified for for four or five years and i was super stressed out, like really, really bad case of stage fright. And, you know, I came in with, with Fred Armisen, we came in the same year, and he was just instantly pumped to get up on stage. And, and I don't think he had any fear in him at all. And he just wouldn't, I was so, I admired that aspect of him and I was jealous of that, the thing in him that allowed him to be able to have fun as he was doing it. And I would, I don't know that I,

I would, sometimes you'd have fun up there, but it would, it was, I would have you'd have fun up there but it would it was I would have more fun like coming off after having a sketch that went well was fun but I but for me I would just be kind of locked in while doing it you know my my attitude was hardly ever having fun it was more just like okay do it right and and and then it'd be fun afterwards if it went well and if it if it didn't then it was you know horrifying for a couple days and then you move on to the next thing but but uh but yeah it was it was you know a couple times in my life i've really had a lot of fun doing stuff but most of the time i'm just kind of overthinking stuff

right like when you did a nebraska when you did when you did nebraska and uh the uh the alexander payne movie was that's probably like the most kind of contained character you've played right yeah certainly yeah i think so and so when you did did you ever coming from your like sketch and and comedic background i mean it's still a comedy movie but you know it's very like slice of life and it doesn't have the same absurdity that kind of uh informs some of your other characters was how did that feel playing something that was like a little bit uh like uh smaller i guess it was terrifying i mean i will say in in answering question, there was another thing that I did, which was even more dramatic than Nebraska.

And I got lucky enough to do it right before Nebraska. Oh, that's nice. Small Irish movie called Run and Jump. And this woman, Steph Green, asked me to be one of the, it was, I play an American doctor going over to help out this Irish family that the father had had some kind of like, God, I can't remember now, some kind of stroke, some kind of thing that changed his personality that that so I was in kind of researching this kind of rare rare problem rare affliction that he had and and it was this terrifying thing that that so I did that and then came back to the States because we shot it in Ireland.

Then I came back and had a couple months before going off to make Nebraska. And having that experience was so, I got so lucky to be able to do that because it really prepared me. It was this very small thing. So I felt safe to take these chances. And it was a great experience. I loved how the movie turned out. This would have been back in like 2013 or 2012, maybe. But anyway, so going in then with,

because Steph Green, I believe she had directed stuff before but i think this was her first feature so so it was fun getting to do that and both of us being new in a way doing this because then because i was terrified about you know i was a huge alexander payne fan and and uh and that was just, it's a different thing going in with this well-known director who, you know, it was just intimidating, intimidating. And he's super nice and it makes you feel very comfortable. So, but the couple months before doing that

were kind of like the couple months before starting SNL, where you're just like, I was so excited to have gotten the job, but I never wanted it to start. Like, I don't want to actually have to do it. I just want to know that I was that I want to, you know, the fun of being able to tell people I was doing it was awesome but like shit having to actually do it was terrifying. It ended up being a lot of fun. Alexander Payne's

awesome and Bruce Dern and June Squibb were just so full of knowledge and they're just awesome. It so real too everything fits together in such a real way like it feels like a real husband and wife and father a lot of those people i mean you know those guys are have been acting for years but then a lot of the people that alexander

pain uses are people who have never acted before like they're actual uh farmers in nebraska or or or this you know woman who came in and there was a it just like it's it's people who've never acted so they he just is able to coax these super real authentic uh um uh parts from from these these people who are just kind of saying stuff the way they would say stuff out there as a i don't know yeah they're not selling it like it's dialogue i just hit a brain jam nice could you tell no it's so smooth over here did did it feel weird not not going for laughs in that type like pivoting to dramatic acting like was it kind of because i feel like with comedic acting you're kind of you know you you have like something you got you're going for a laugh but with dramatic it's kind of like you're staying in the feeling and i wonder if there's like a if that's a weird transition it's very weird it's it

is the first couple times you do it it's like i don't know the best way to describe it is you just feel like super exposed it's yeah it's like uh because comedy is like the comedy stuff you're just you're doing characters that aren't you and so and and so like like when you're trying to portray these kind of more grounded characters you feel like you're exposing like you feel like people are seeing the real you a little bit like like oh shit now people know what I'm like when I'm when I'm actually angry or or or what you know they're I don't know it's just it's it's hard to describe but it's you just feel very exposed and vulnerable and it takes it definitely takes a while to get used to especially if you come up and your whole system is like oh it's you've succeeded if you get a laugh and if you

don't you know you just you you know you have your own you you can tell when you're doing a good job you know and and with this it's not you know there's no you just get to the end of a take and people are like you know oh i thought that was good after a while you you you feel you you're able to develop your own system of you know if you feel like you did a good job on a take but it's i mean it takes a while because you're you know for everything like you're you start out at the groundlings you're on stage and you're you've got to be a little bit bigger because you're you know theater you're trying to get this shit across to um people who are sitting out there and and you know don't have

a tv screen in front of them then you go to snl and it's like okay you gotta still make people laugh but you you know you probably are gonna alter your face so that you're not being quite as big because you know people they're close-ups and people get it a little easier and you don't want to seem too hammy and then and then moving on to something like this where you're just like you've been workshopping your face and how big or small it gets you start doing stuff that's more grounded and you're just I don't know my calibration you know you got to recalibrate everything and it takes a while to figure that out and it's it's uh so so the tricky stuff about nebraska was like um when when there'd be times that i needed to tell a joke

oh it should be a couple things that were jokes. Most of the time it's just like conversational stuff and like relationship with the dad. But then when there was, when I was telling a joke, it's like, you know, I know how to tell a joke. Well, that's debatable. But so it's like, what level of of um how funny is this guy that yeah yeah how funny is this guy that i'm playing because he's not as funny as i am but but he has to be funny enough for like the little world that he's in that's interesting gotta be like it was just little stuff like that which which i think now you i would go back um i don't know i don't think i'd be as stressed doing that stuff and it seemed

stuff seemed to make a little more sense but i just i was going in just totally flying blind especially for this run and jump but like you know in this in run and jump which is the irish movie um it's it's i mean they're cute moments that are are funny but it's it's even uh more weighted towards drama um in fact i would say it's completely weighted towards drama and they are just some like fun moments um during it but like it's it's weird because a lot of times uh you know you'll be doing the scene at the very end of the scene they want you to kind of you know look out pensive you know whoa that's powerful hold on it for a long time and it feels so weird and you just trust that they're gonna not they're gonna cut away at a they're not gonna let you hang it out to dry because sometimes i'll see things where they just hang on those shots for way too long and you're

like oh i feel bad for that actor because you go in trusting that a director is gonna you know and i don't know but but in the case of run and jump i i she had me hold for sometimes a long a long time just so she would you know how she could use as much or as little as she wanted and then she you know i thought did a really good job of of choosing the lengths of those things but you get used to it and and um and by the way you use a lot of that shit with mcgruber stuff too like it's it's you you turn it up a little bit to play it for yeah i mean everything like like like everything kind of goes into the your little pot of experiences and and you know and it just you know just you learn little tricks that all kinds of stuff are helpful and kind of you know stuff helps with comedy comedy stuff helps with drama it's uh it's all basically the same thing.

They're all just slight alterations of the other thing. Is it hard for you to watch yourself? Yes. Yes. But I've gotten better at it because when you're in the editing booth. Brutal, we're doing it right now, it's hard. Oh yeah, it takes a long time to get used to it, but then you just kind of develop a callus. So it's, yes, it was, i got a chance to like we uh we all kind of helped edit um

uh the the mcgruber movie and then at last man on earth i got to you know i was spent you know hours and hours with the editors on each episode you know probably i don't know i would guess 20 hours over maybe maybe 40 hours on each episode over well it'd be spread out over some crazy amount of time where you're watching i mean a lot of it was just watching my own shitty acting and trying to figure out a way to like turn it turn it watchable and and um and it's you just get used to it and you get uh um yeah but it's it's i still there are some things that are harder to watch than others but but i'm i'm used to it a little bit more and and in the early going i would do a lot of cringing when i would watch myself and and and i don't cringe as much i know there are people out there

who probably disagree that with with me me and cringe quite a bit when they watch stuff that I do, but like, I think some of it is like, you get used to seeing yourself, but then also, I don't know, you probably, you know, theoretically, everybody's getting slightly better at, at knowing what made them cringe, cringe you know the last time they did something and and avoiding that stuff so you know i i not not saying that i'm great i just am better at avoiding stuff that makes me cringe when i watch myself. But there probably are still a lot of things that make people cringe when they watch me, but they just are not for some reason making me cringe.

But it's a weird experience. So you guys do, you're still, you have a hard time watching yourselves? Whenever we get something from an editor being like i have a cut um i just get this like this like jolt of nervousness like oh i don't want to see the cut uh but i found that exposing myself more and more like basically what you're saying you develop a callus exposing yourself more and more to it sort of helps smooth it out but that first kind of like oh we've got a cut ready for you to see and you're like like it's it's terrifying oh and it's always it's always disappointing

i mean very rarely do you get a first cut where you're not um kind of bummed out and and and this is this sounds like and the editors that I've worked with are fucking awesome but like you just have in your head a very specific way usually that you picture it all playing out and even if it's a bit like they could be showing you a cut that's better than the cut you have in your head and you're just your brain's not gonna accept it because of the way that you have it in your head so it's like yeah sometimes you get you know a lot of times you'll get in there and sometimes you'll get in there and you'll go oh this is how i had the version i thought in in in my head and you can change stuff around so that is that version sometimes it's better and sometimes

you're like oh wait oh yeah you had the best version of it um yeah so it's just but the first time you watch it you just gotta not only are you like dealing with the the you know what you had in your head of what the scene was going to be but also you're you know looking at your yourself and you're so you know yeah you know you're so critical of yourself in a way that you're not critical of other people you know it's it's uh it's it's it takes a while to get used to that yeah yeah because i feel like you uh when i watch a cut my eyes just start directly to me and there's a lot of instances where i'll be like i want to make a change but then i'll sort of have to step back and be like i think that this change i want is only because i can just see me

in the scene whereas basically what you're saying where it's like you gotta be like i i think i need to put my trust in the editors on this one because I think I'm just watching myself and I'm not seeing what's best for the whole cut yeah I mean that's that's why it's good with with MacGruber it's good because we um uh John and Yorma and I we all get together with the editors um and and and our buddy dave noel who's kind of turned into the the fourth uh musketeer of the mcgruber group um and we so we so there are times when i'm just like i think that i think that what i've done here i fucking hate that take it's so bad but then I'm me so like so if you guys think that this is good and that I'm just overthinking it please overrule me but but you know I just have to bring up this

seems super a little too over the top or like I think this one's flat or whatever you know it's just hard to you know so it's it's really nice to have uh you know a a committee in those instances like sometimes you know like oh i don't like this or i do love this or whatever but sometimes you just are lost because it's just it's too close to the bone yeah it's good good to hear um for our last time when we answer some listeners questions so uh i'll read off some cues and then we give advice uh okay okay yeah so here's the first question mega babe in the surf lineup my dogs i write to you today to set my summer on the right trajectory i just moved back to the east coast and have been tearing it up on some winter gravel. It's heating up here in Charleston and the people are returning to the beach, including this mega babe who shreds.

I was out one day last week and I paddled over to talk to her and we cut it up for a min. But then a wave rolls in and we have to do what our heart yearns and charge down the line. We surfed the same break, so i'll see her out there next swell my question is how do i get my shot with this queen if lady ocean is jealous and keeps throwing nice sets our way mid convo that we can't turn down any help is much appreciated my dogs also shout out to crow dog and boys club homies in seattle respectfully turned dog i mean to me it seems like like if if uh mother ocean or lady ocean if i'd like like the the more that they're just out there in the same space and uh you know i think it's it's you know

you know it the time will will reveal itself when when he's supposed to uh introduce himself to this person if he goes out a couple more times surfing and and doesn't get a chance to meet her she'll probably know that he's there and then it'll feel really nice. But you know, like it might be the best thing in the world if he can't meet her for a little bit because then it won't seem rushed or he won't seem, you know, like he's, yeah, yeah.

I lost the word, I i've never brain jam again but uh um yeah it you know there's no rush if it's meant to be it's gonna happen and so if it happens you know he's meant to be with this person um you know maybe maybe it won't be for a month yeah i think yeah maybe maybe he'll meet somebody else uh somewhere else that's that's the right person yeah i think too if if you see an opportunity if she has like a really good wave that's your intro right there you know just say like that was a fat price that i am no i think i think your advice is really good yeah chad what do you say i'm not an experienced surfer what do you say to someone when they have a nice wave uh like i think just be nonchalant be like those are some sick turns and then she'll be like oh

thank you and you're like yeah and then i think it flows from there but i think you know someone tells me i had some good turns or like oh i know i know so when he turned like you spray on the wave you know if you have a good spray be like wow you had some like really sick spray on that last wave and then you could throw in like if you spray someone who's paddling out you know you like you totally baptize that guy right there and uh i think that's a good intro because if i got if someone told me that i would i would fall in love pretty easily i think i am the worst surfer i'm a perennial beginner but i will say i do my my favorite thing on instagram is kook slams i just oh yeah i freaking love i love kook slams i was just watching some last night uh you know oh my god some of those the this one where this guy just let

his surfboard go and just slammed in this guy's head oh i think i saw that one it was like yeah he comes out of a wave or something he comes out of a barrel and i think yeah it was and there was uh most oh and then a guy kite surfing that that not only is it like he gets pulled out of the water and gets super high up there and then another person's kite surfing and this guy gets uh tangled up in the other person's kite and then everything comes down i hope he's still alive oh yeah very far away so i can't tell if it's man or a woman okay sorry more i'm no i love it um all right what up stoke council and any honored guests i'm ready to ask a very important question that's been on my mind for a while i've been dating my gf for about three months now and i've known her for

about five i think i really do love her now and want to tell her the problem is i've never had a girlfriend before or told a girl i love her so i'm at a loss for how to go about this i'm pretty confident she would say it back and she seems to be very into me and our flame hasn't died down since we started dating do i do it mid-stroke after i tongue dart her or should i take her to a steakhouse and tell her after she finishes an eight ounce filet or is it way too early to say it any help will be greatly appreciated and i know i can count on you guys to give me the right advice okay this one I do have the right advice. Nice. There's no, there's, don't, you know, any, it's never too early or too late. It's like when you're feeling it,

the main thing is don't make her feel any pressure to say it back. This is like, you let her know how you feel. If she's not ready to say it back, it doesn't mean she doesn't love you. She's just like, you let her know how you feel. If she's not ready to say it back, it doesn't mean she doesn't love you. She's just like, you know, everyone's on their own time. So just, if you feel like you want to share that with her, that's awesome.

But, you know, let her know, but don't expect anything in return. Just put it out there in whatever way you wanna put it out there. It doesn't, you know, just say it however you wanna say it. It's a really nice thing. And she'll love that you're opening up to her. But just don't, like the worst thing to do would be go,

aren't you gonna tell me aren't you like if she doesn't want to tell you yet it's like you in fact it might even be good to say man i don't expect you to say anything if you're not ready to say it or whatever you know i just want you to know how i feel that's my advice i love that i think that's perfect yeah that's 100 yeah doing something nice without expectation of like reciprocity or something that's always the move and then i think it it it also makes you not only did you get to say this thing that feels so good to you and feels so good for the other person but it'll feel doubly good if she doesn't feel like you did it because you just wanted it back or something like that like she's like oh this this is just a loving dude who just wants to tell me

how he feels he's not doing it because he he needs to hear it back that's uh yeah it's it's a double win i think yeah the the thing you don't want to feel is like that she's just saying it to you because you said it to her so like you know you would uh i don't know you'll know it sounds like it sounds like um sounds like she uh is into it as well so so most likely she'll she'll say it back but if she doesn't who cares she'll she'll like you even more if you don't pressure her into saying it back and then i think too like the moment will come you'll just get so overwhelmed with feelings she'll do something cute and you'll just scream it from the rooftops i love you and then i don't

think you gotta i mean you can think about how you want to say it but i think the moment will speak to you inside your body and you're like all right this is the moment where i gotta say it i don't think you gotta plan like where you're gonna be geographically when you say it just know that it's gonna come out at some point you won't be able to help it it'll just burst out of you yeah last cue hey boys just a quick cue for the lords i'm running low on stoke because i don't have many close friends anymore i used to have a lot of friends but grew distant during college and every friend from college moved back home for the most part. It's even hard to get a bro to grab a brew with. I don't really want to join a club or a sports thing because to tell you the truth, I think it's kind of corny and I think it'd ruin the fun with

how competitive I can be. And friends from work are always sketchy. How do I get more bros? Starting to get depressing over here, boys. Love the pod. Keep killing it. I mean, that's a, you know, I will say that after I graduated from college, we talked about before I was up in Northern California for high school and, you know, everything for that. And that's a, yeah know, everything for that. And, and, and that's a,

that's a, yeah, I understand that feeling. Like, I remember a lot of people moved away and for a while you're like, you know, it does, you's uh you know I'm I have this uh Beyonce now wife so I was always felt you know I didn't feel as isolated but still was feeling isolated so like um I understand that feeling but you know I think it just kind of naturally will happen. Just be open to, I don't know, just say yes to things. Just be open to new experiences and you'll meet people. You're not going to meet people if you go home and watch TV every night. But by the way, if going home and watch tv every night but by the way if going home and watching tv every night makes you happy do that but like if you want to meet people i don't know just be just say yes when somebody invites you to something even if like like if there's some

dude at work that invites you to do something and you don't necessarily like that guy there might be 10 of your future best friends at this thing that are you know you never know until you get there and maybe every one of that thing sucks and then you just had one night where you hung out with a bunch of dickheads but you just move but maybe you meet a bunch of lifelong friends so so uh you know just be open to experiences sounds like you're uh you're you are so uh yeah just let it just let it happen and don't put too much uh this is a normal thing this is a normal part of life you gotta be fine yeah and i i think too he was like saying like he doesn't want to do intramural sports or like uh hang out with his work friends which i totally understand i i really

do get it but i think you might have to take some contrary action like whatever you're feeling in terms of like shutting down potential social avenues i would fight against your instincts and go do that stuff anyways just because like you were saying you never know who could be there or what could even you disliking it could lead to you connecting with someone there who also dislikes it so i think uh you just got to be out there as much as possible yeah no i think that's that sounds good too yeah you're right yeah i found whenever whenever i put myself out there and stuff like you were saying you know even if you don't meet new friends you always get

new stories and new experiences and i'm always happy i did go out into the world as opposed to staying home um you know when i didn't want to so and i i'm pretty introverted so I think you know I prefer to stay at home but whenever I do force myself to get out uh it's all I I never regret it so yeah there are so you're you're totally right there sometimes I it takes a little motivation for me to get out um and I would say without for me to get out um and i would say without fail you know once you just kind of get through the first couple minutes of being at a place it's always is like oh that was really fun i'm happy i did that yeah you know there's at least one benefit to every night that you were maybe uh you know not super up for doing you know i don't know yeah it's very weird that something is a complete um uh complete disaster not disaster that's the wrong word you guys all just i don't

know why i'm adding on you guys said it perfectly no this is people are gonna be psyched to get advice from you dude this is big time uh oh well thanks so much for coming on the podcast it's such an honor yeah oh my god thank you i i am i would love to come back and talk some more. You guys are really fun to talk to. Oh, thank you. I'm sorry I didn't ask more questions to you guys. So next time I'll interview you guys.

Whoa. All right, I'll start prepping. I'll ask for advice from the listeners. Yeah, good call. Oh yeah good call that would be fun that's a good idea to flip it and we'll just do an advice where they give us advice that's a good idea yeah and let me know if you come out to Albuquerque at all

yeah my mom's in Santa Fe oh really yeah well shit you know how close we are so yeah come come up and take me to santa fe and show me show me around yeah we'll go uh we'll get some we'll get some steaks food is so good out here it's so good yeah yeah i'm very into the New Mexico food. Oh, yeah. So good.

I will tell Mudbutt I said later. Yeah. They really work themselves. Look, he's... Look at him now. Is he passed out? Is that Mudbutt? Whoa. Totally energy.

That guy can do it all. Right? Yeah. I think he's dead Mudbutt oh there he is hey Mudbutt when I said that he just went

oh hi buddy oh hey later Mudbutt good to meet dude look have fun with the movie yeah good luck thank you and thanks again for having me yeah it was a pleasure thanks so much oh just say bye thanks man all right keep in touch yeah absolutely okay have a great one bye from my brother sure ross is sending a goodbye too okay all right what a nice guy he's the nicest. Truly a prince. Yeah. Chad, what is your beef of the week?

My beef of the week is with the extra sheet in the bed. You know, you have like the mattress cover, the fitted sheet. And then they always put like an extra sheet and then you have the cover i hate that sheet i never use that sheet and i always i don't even sleep with it anymore but you know they always put that in there and it ends up just at the foot of the bed because it's like too much sheet and then you're just you're just pushing it to the it always ends up at the edge of my bed it's just too much you know i think we need to really repurpose um you know our sheet count in bed um because that extra sheet is dog shit and doesn't do anything for me i don't even like it when it's hot and that's the only sheet

because even when it's hot it's like still not enough sheet because it's just like too thin and you're like like this is no way to to sleep this is horse shit and so i think it's just you know a ploy by a big big bed um to make you just buy more sheets and i and i'm here to say nah uh you don't have to do that and i don't buy that extra sheet and whenever i get like a set of sheets i uh i burn that shit nice dude yeah dude so you're just like straight comforter dude yeah that's big time yeah it's powerful of you to like kind of upend the status quo in that way thank you yeah um dude my beef of the week is with uh like uh terminology to describe alternative lifestyles to describe alternative lifestyles like i do a lot of mushrooms but i would never call it microdosing i'm just like yo like if i'm gonna call it anything i'll just say i'm a drug addict

because that feels more raw i guess and then like you know i think it's cool when people want to date multiple people but like i would never call it poly i would just tell people i have herpes and i feel like that's a better way of getting that message across i just i always feel like if you're doing stuff that's outside the norm i don't want to make it sound like high falutin i just want it to sound like you know like i'm almost being self-deprecating about it yeah because you're getting because it's like that stuff is kind of cool and kind of not cool to me and i don't want to and i'll let someone else make the judgment on that i don't want to give it like a cool label i'll just be like no i'll give you this the straight bottom of it and then it's up to you where you place it yeah i like that

too many labels these days it's crazy right it's like it's hard to keep track and then i kind of feel like people will look back on those stuff in like 30 years and be like like you know how we think of the term swingers now where you kind of think swingers were like, I think we kind of look back on them like they were a little silly, right? Yeah. But I'm sure at the time they were like, we're swingers. And they thought it sounded super cool. But then 30 years from then, it sounds a little silly. And I'm like, if you're committing to all these labels, just know that in 30 years, people are going to be like,

you're going to be part of a group that people are probably going to be poking fun of and retrospective film and literature. Yeah. And I'm just trying to, I just got my Dukes up. I'm like, I'm not going to let you box me in like that. Chad, who's your babe of the week? My baby of the week is a disney podcast so i touched on last week about how you know i was listening to news shit and it was just it was just ruining my day and i was like i was like why am i why am i even playing into this you know it's it's it really is a no benefit to my life and was affecting my my you know it was affecting my days and so i was like you know what i'm just gonna listen to podcasts about disneyland

you know how space mountain was built how pirates of the caribbean was built you know secrets of the matterhorn you know disney conspiracy theories you know what what's really going on inside of the matterhorn and my days are so much better because of it you know because i'm just putting all my energy into the happiest place on earth and that happiness is bouncing back into my life and um so i'm just here to say to everyone it's like you know what you don't have to know what's going on in the world you can just know what's happening at disneyland and uh i think you'll be much happier for sure dude what you absorb affects your outlook 100 we're sensitive creatures dude my baby of the week is amy landecker she's an actress from transparent she was in an episode of louis

where he almost gets beat up by a high school bully and she's also in an episode of curb where i think larry's competing with like rosie o'donnell for her affection and i just think she is um just one of the ultimate babes great actress um always super grounded in her performance and uh always like in transparent she plays someone who's like looks like they have it all together but it's pretty erratic and i love that kind of character and i think that's like a really hard thing to portray and she just drills it so amy landecker huge fan oh yeah chad who's your legend of the week my legend of the week is this new uh youtube channel flav city with bobby parish

i've been seeing the suggestions on our shared youtube account yeah flav city so so he he's like this dude who I think he's a chef and he just goes to grocery stores and like points out different food products and he's like basically points out the ones that are healthy for you he'll be like you'd be like you know this will stay healthy but it's like but they've got canola oil in there they've got you know they've got canola oil it's got uh natural flavors when you ever see natural flavors that's never a good thing it's basically stuff they don't want to tell you about so he'll list off all the things at the grocery store uh that have sort of the the the more toxic chemicals in them that are bad for your body and if anything it's just it's just like a pleasant thing to watch

and also it's very educational so now whenever i go to the grocery store i sort of have like an idea of like what i want to buy that that's sort of like because i've learned through experimentation that good quality of your food and like all that stuff is most important and that's what affects you the most so if you're able to and through this guy you're able to sort of hone in on what's what's best for you so that you're really able to sort of tighten up your your intake and uh you know avoid all those gnarly chemicals that that big food is putting in there um because i i think that's that's the biggest culprit in terms of uh what's getting people sick and stuff that people just don't really think about and he also

goes to like fast food restaurants and he'll point out that you know the uh the best fast food restaurants and like which of their products you can get that are on the relatively healthy side it's actually really surprising some of the stuff he went to taco bell and just ripped it to shreds which i'm like makes sense because i i can't eat taco bell anymore because i just like you know just shit my pants so damn yeah hate to see you crop your pants bums me out um dude my legend of the week is brian cranston actor i saw a play dude i saw this play called power of sale that's right you saw so you saw him live i saw him live he was fantastic he plays like an old white fogey professor at harvard who's like kind of jealous of his uh like bipoc students

for surpassing him in like cultural importance and he invites like a white nationalist to come debate him at harvard and uh but he's not it seems like he's doing it just to stay relevant but there's even like he's got trickier and darker motivations it's really good and i just think brian cranson he's unbelievable at playing characters who are falling apart. Like, like when he's just losing it and like the whole world's crumbling around him and he's trying to keep it together. He's just in the zone. And I think what he's so good at when he's doing that is you still, he's really good at playing characters that are falling apart that are,

but their biggest motivation is self-preservation and that comes through so clear in his performance and it's an interesting thing to do and he just drills it nice yeah what's your quote of the week is i gotta do mcgruber uh the gruber don't play like homie homie don't play like that nice my quote of the week is from power of sale the play i saw so it has this one line that's such a great analogy and a great way to like frame a certain conversation that's been happening a lot so the old white fogey professor he's like jealous of his students who are taking his slot in the culture and uh and they're all from like different demos than him and he can't quite get his head around it and then one of his students is like what's the rule of nautical law when passing in the harbor and he goes if you're under power of engine you have to defer to those who are under power of sail uh to go first and i was like

whoa and then that just means the writer was like in Cape Cod probably for a weekend, was learning about boats and was like, oh, that's a really good way to think about like, like deference in our culture towards like letting other people take the spot that they previously couldn't have because they didn't have all the institutional power behind them. And I was like, dude, that's fucking fire, dog. We didn't come up with that shit. Yeah, it was pretty cool that's awesome chet what's your phrase that we're getting after it my phrase that we're getting after it is uh dude let's make this bacon burnt burnt. Ooh. Mine is vanilla latte double shot.

Hell yeah. All right. All right, sweet. That was great, man. It's so cool to talk to Will Forte. What a legend. Yeah, he's awesome. Aaron, thank you, dude. You're a beast. Thanks, Aaron.

Yeah. All right. Wow. you dude you're a beast thanks aaron yeah all right all right guys well keep writing reviews helps the pod check out our patreon become a patron for bonus episodes they're classics they're like they're bringing we're bringing it back to old school style. I love it. Can't wait to do more. It's really fun. Yeah. And yeah, see you guys next week.

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Later. Thank you. Guys, guys. I know, I know, I know. Who's your favorite? Strider. Who's your legend? Joe, what's your club? Chad. What is your beef of the week? Aaron. Who's your favorite? Strider. Who's your legend? Joe, what's your club of the week?

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