Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 243 - John Crist Joins

Episode Date: June 19, 2022

What up stokers?! This week comedian, John Crist, joins the pod. We get pretty deep hope you like it!        Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code [GODEEP] at Manscaped.com. That’s 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com, and use code [GODEEP].SHOW LESS

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meme pages nurse meme pages this guy does just for stand-up and it's just like just like the booker at a bringer show and a young female comic but just like dang it is so good it's just so nobody gets it except comics yeah it's just hilarious i mean the inside jokes that comics have about the comedy just that they they're always like brendan cooney is the best at that he's so so funny. He's so funny. Well, it's so therapeutic for, because you're like, man, like, and we're not, we're not really above the place where, I don't say it. There's the emails that I get from like this one nighter that's like, he's like a hundred, a hundred bucks in Sioux City, Iowa, who can do it tonight.

But I stay on the list and I'm, I would consider myself to be. Beyond that. Yeah. But I go, there there's all you could always i've never no comic is like i'm better than anything because you know you could be back there oh yeah well i mean and it's not a it doesn't work in perpetuity like you can have like a huge night where you do a huge show and throw a ton of people and then not have anything for the next night two weeks so after a couple days once the high wears off you're like

oh you're doing a show in your garage like in meth country i'm like i'll be there sure i'll be there or like hey you're like hey i wouldn't you know you never personally like piss off a booker because you know you might need that show even if it's the worst show unless you just burn the bridge all the way right then sometimes you got to do that i don't even know how to uh be rude to a booker oh you don't no you're good he's good like that or you know what maybe i am rude but it's in ways that it's so around yeah i'm not even aware that i'm being rude like i just don't respond for a couple weeks or i'm like lazy about promotion or the date and then he comes back and he's like dude he's like hey man could you help out on this and i'm like oh yeah i was being rude but i don't the old can you help out on this is tough like promo asking yeah yeah because he's he's asks you to do a show and you're like sweet and

then it's like two weeks before and he's like hey can you help out meaning there's no one coming yeah that's what that means right right hey can you yeah hey can you help us out and i'm always pretty reluctant to do that to comics that we book on our shows because i just feel like it seems uncool yes i'm cool and i'm yeah i'm you know pretty committed to being cool because there's more there's more long-term viability in that absolutely somebody yeah there's that's a it's a it's a personality that you want to live by somebody told me you know uh ryan long sure yeah he told me about this comic he was on a show out here in la in this comic i'm not gonna name him but he was like he showed up and he's like it's too many he's like it's too many people on the show he's like a famous he's like too many people on the show it is ridiculous

and like they were like all right we can like move up. He's like, nah, dude, it's fine, whatever. Did he say this to the booker? Yeah. Yeah. And he goes, well, you can go in front of Ryan. He's like, you can go in front of me.

And he's like, nah, dude, whatever. It's like, I'll just do it. And then he got mad at the comic that was before him for going 30 seconds over. And it was like,

dude, anything you were mad at, we could have changed. But he was just committed to being like whatever right he was committed to being over it yeah the whole time but it also they texted him on monday and goes do you want to do this show right but that's like that's like a personality like i'm um it's i'm too cool for this yeah the whole time yeah but you has to be here was he at his from your estimation without naming him is he at a place in his career where he should have that attitude not really no

i mean not not here if you're if you're at the iowa like improv maybe but like there's other people that are bigger this is yeah los angeles and new york that he's just like did whatever like this uh i'm like dude it's a tuesday how does it work on tuesday at the improv they ask you a week before if you're a big time guy yeah they go hey do you want to come here on tuesday and he's like yeah do you think he does that it's like a conscious choice of like okay i'm important now i'm gonna be the whatever guy the what yeah the i'm gonna be the i'm over this that's how i'm gonna that's how i'm gonna enforce my status yeah to be well there's like a um uh what's his name roy who's uh who's that roy that worked for comedy central black guy roy wood roy wood he's funny he said he was watching

damon wayans at uh he tweeted this he's watching dame wayans at the improv and he goes, dude, he was so, this guy's such a baller. Like he was killing so hard that the, he tweeted this, he was killing so hard, no one in the crowd realized he was calling an Uber on his phone during, and he timed his set perfectly to like when he got off stage, the Uber was there and he left. Like that's a flex. It's a great flex. No, get a driver if you are, right? I like that move by Damon Wayans to kind of subtly tell the audience

that even though I'm doing great, I'm in two places at once and this isn't that important to me. But it is though if you're like i i don't know why i like that you like that move i respect that i respect that yeah and he goes hashtag master class like meaning comics should like learn like this is the way oh so roy wood was on board with it yeah roy thought it was awesome and i was pissed at it this is what no why were you pissed at it i were you got other places to be, go there. Or like you're like killing so hard that you're like, I'm better than like, and you had to get, if you, first of all, if you're that rich, then just have a car service.

I hear you. Cause I'm a huge Bruce Springsteen fan and he would never do something like that. Bruce Springsteen would make the audience feel like the most important person. Yeah, or like Garth Brooks. Are you calling an Uber right now? No, I'm going to see if I can find this tweet. Yeah, so you're a Garth Brooks fan? Huge, dude.

Huge. And he does a great live show, right? Unbelievable. Not super familiar with his music, but I know his live show is supposed to be. It rips. It's just something else. Are you going to read it? Yes, please. I once saw Damon Wayans get on stage and destroy so hard nobody noticed he was ordering

an uber while talking then between jokes he'd sneak and check the status of his car nobody but comedians noticed timed his closer to hit just as the driver pulled up hashtag master class also very polite to the driver to not make him wait even though you're crushing in front of a project in front of a sold out his priorities are in place but he said no one noticed except the comics meaning young comics are like that is the way right versus like when we were coming up you talk to like the booker you introduce yourselves to make sure you met every single person handed out your card or like if you wanted to like be good yeah i never really did that stuff you didn't no i guess like hand out cards or like meeting everybody oh yeah i'm not great

at that either no i can't like it you know we'll do something like that trevor trevor's good yeah trevor is a businessman he is he's not he's not he's on point yeah trevor is he's a wonderful guy he's the best dude he's the nicest guy he's very accessible very kind hard work and he works his ass off yeah and you text him jokes and he texts you right back he's like a freaking hilarious i don't i don't text him do you guys text jokes yeah yeah yes i don't really do that i do that with like uh i don't really do it with comics. I text my brother. I like jokes. Yeah. I talk to my mom.

About comedy? Jokes, yeah. You do? I'll test out jokes on her, yeah. She thinks it's cool? She's into it. You know, she actually, she is my mom. Yeah. I'd say she's maybe an easier laugh because of that.

Yeah, that's it. But. Pad the stats though. But I can tell when something's funny with her. Yeah. You know what i mean like what would you call it is this during the middle of a conversation or you say you call her for i gotta run this premise by you uh both times have happened a lot of times a lot because

i call her a lot i call her almost every day so i'll be like hey can i run some jokes you call your mom every day almost yeah we're very close i'm jealous of that dude how often do you and your mom not that like once a month once a month. Once a month. But you guys must really get it in on that once a month. Yeah, we go pretty hard. You talk to your dad? Yeah, very often. You?

Yeah, my dad less so. Dang. My dad gets grumpy if I don't call him. He gets like a needy kind of girlfriend attitude where he's like, but he curses. He's like, hey, motherfucker, why haven't you called me in four days? I got to go through my call log. I'm like, I called you Saturday. He's like, all like all right well that was three days ago what's up and i'm like chilling just chilling did i live here or no then sometimes to be you know gently rebellious

i'll go what's up with you dude he goes i'm not dude that's like a good yeah sorry you called me that and now i can't call you dude yeah you're right you're right you gotta upset him a little bit let him know you're willing to poke the bear what back to the garth briggs thing what was his alter ego chris gaines was it yeah do you remember when he did that when he like pivoted into like a like an emo rocker kind of there's a lot of them that have done that uh what's his name jerks bentley does that he's gonna do a movie too yeah as that character as gains because he had to get that side of himself out do you have a sorry well chris well the garth brooks is a character what is the character from garth brooks whoever the real guy is inside of garth brooks garth brooks is a character everybody anybody that big is a care i'm kind of a character not like the part if you

meet see me in the airport and you go john chris you're gonna meet the guy from the videos right right you turn that on yeah i remember when i was in rehab dude i was like uh we're like three months and then we finally got to go out to like go to like a little mexican restaurant in like hattiesburg mississippi the first time and i was like we're sitting there with all these guys like from rehab and uh these three women walked by they go john christ and i go hey girl like what are you guys doing like having a margarita like i'm gonna tell your pastor and like like all the guys in rehab were like what was that i was like oh that's like the thing i do like a thing on the internet that was him you dive into it yeah but they don't they didn't they didn't

i guess from whatever you guys have known i'm pretty similar to that right but i was way out of work i was like in rehab yeah so it was like how was that experience unbelievable dude unbelievable as in uh the winter of 2019 right before covid yeah rehab's different dude you ever been i haven't nah it's good don't go no do go i don't know it's cool dude well yeah you and me we've known each other for a while on the same we got on the same tracks. Yeah, we're on a similar wavelength. I didn't mean like a railroad track. It's like if you're on the opposite side. Was that meeting out here?

Was it around this neighborhood? It was. It was a meeting. Oh, I'm going to blur out a bleep out that specific. Because people go to see you there? No, you don't go there. No, it's just supposed to be anonymous. Oh, yeah, right.

It's supposed to be anonymous. But I think everyone can put together what we're talking about i uh yeah i just started going back about a month ago yeah yeah to that one to that meeting doing most of them virtually doing it over zoom to go to that meeting was it today they have them there i didn't do it yeah it's every day at 12 15 and i did it the last couple days and it's been yeah amazing and dude it's just incredible how many layers get peeled back on the onion. Because I just started a month ago and I was like, I had this gripe about recovery where I felt it was too much of a bummer. And so I came in with this new attitude where I was like, I'm going to be hyper positive.

I'm not going to wallow. I'm not going to be pissed. I'm not going to be pissed. And then like three days ago, I'm just... I'm going to kill everybody. I'm not going to be pissed. I'm not going to be pissed. And then like three days ago, I'm just. I'm going to kill everybody. Just unloading, dude. But it was authentic. And I think that's what I like about it is that even if it's difficult, I do feel it's real.

And I feel more awareness of who I am and really what's going on. Yeah. Well, I mean, in L.A., if somebody wasn't aware of knowledgeable, the recovery community, the meetings, let's say just Alcoholics Anonymous, there are a thousand today. There's so that's so big. Oh, it's a huge. The recovery community, you think it's gonna be like, oh, I got to go in some church, go around the back door door knock three times and it's in a little closet i go no dude they keep them pretty small because but they're so so so big they're i mean that saturday one is like huge it's a party there's like 200 mostly dudes in there yeah mostly dudes um go to maybe start with the aa meetings because those

are little if you're new to the recovery go to like the easier more palatable ones. Or you go on Zoom. Do you have to introduce yourself on Zoom? I do. I'm so funny. It's my full name on my Zoom thing. I'm terrible at the anonymity part. I forgot about that.

I'm so like public facing about everything that that part's been a little bit hard for me to integrate but um oh you were public facing about what just everything yeah like about like my sex addiction and all that stuff so it's uh it's been hard for me to like uh well you know it's sorry keep going no you go you know what's good about that you can't be canceled right because Right. Because if anything happened, you're like, yeah, we knew this. That makes you uncancelable. Well, the reason I got canceled was because I was working in church and doing all the same stuff, and no one knew that. So it was the kind of cover-up more than the clown.

My activity was very plain it's not nothing weird but you like if you see like you know i said like if uh gavin newsom says everybody has to wear a mask and then we see him not wearing one we want to crush him because you told not we don't care if someone wears masks or not, but you told us to all wear them. Or if a fitness instructor is like, this is how you eat, you need to eat vegan, and then we see them at McDonald's, you go bullshit. You said this and you are this,

and that's what all being canceled is, is in essence hypocrisy in the way of living. Totally, I was kind of clued in on that early, That's what all being canceled is, is in essence hypocrisy in the way of living. Oh, totally. I was kind of clued in on that early because I remember that book that Paul Provenza had called Satiristas, where it was comedians doing interviews. And in the Patrice O'Neill section, he said, my audience is loyal to me because they know I'll never lie to them. And I think that's why people identify so much with him because they felt like they

were not getting the Garth Brooks version of him. They were getting the full thing do you feel now that you've gone through all that stuff and you've had to have this kind of like very like i don't know like vulnerable public moment do you feel like more yourself now when you're performing or like just even in your yeah yeah yeah 100% does everything feel more integrated yeah i wish there's a lot of people that I still know on the other side that are either in the faith, the Christian area, or just being like, they got a secret. I go, man, I feel so much empathy for them

because it's so much better over here. But by hand, I can't be the guy that tells people what to do because my hand was forced. I didn't volunteer any information, and I didn't have the courage to either. I got, in essence, discovered, and then I had to own it. But everybody's like, dude, I mean, there's a lot of comics that are so... I mean, the Me Too movement is kind of over. Not over, but like...

Well, I don't know about that. No, not over, but's so much fear of like, I mean, people were like quitting their jobs preemptively back in 2019. Remember that? I had a joke where somebody was like, hey, I quit. And you're like, what? You didn't. You were like, I'm in high school. Whatever.

You're like, I'm out. Yeah, there was two kinds of guys. Guys with like high profile jobs who were worried they were going to get in trouble. And then guys who were glad they didn't have high profile jobs everybody's like looking back on i mean there's i remember some executives just preemptively quit their jobs because they were so scared did you ever feel compelled to talk about it before you got in trouble i oh i don't i would always talk about it because you were in the meetings before yeah dude yeah um no i wasn't nervous if people see me in meetings or anything or if people ask me i wouldn't like i saw you at that

show at the improv i go dude i remember him from the meetings and then you were like yeah and i was like okay cool i didn't have i have no shame about it either no i meant like did you ever feel like did you have moments where you'd just be like alone and you were like I got to get this off my chest yeah yeah but yeah yeah yeah but I was I was uh scared terrified and that they when I got cancelled or discovered or whatever as the best sleep I ever got hmm I had a slept that like that in years this because you were kind of there are a few years where you saw it from the beginning of my comedy career 10 10 year really yeah and so when when you were sort of, there were a few years where you sort of like. Oh, it's from the beginning of my comedy career, 10 years. Really?

Yeah. And so when you sort of went into rehab, did you go unwillingly like yourself? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, well, so they kind of do it like threatening. They messaged our team and they go, hey, we've been researching John for six months. And we're going to break the story tomorrow about John. It was like it's just so silly.

It's not silly but it was like John he's been like texting sexting. He's been sexting and there were like relationships with married women. But I didn't know what the article, I didn't know what evidence they had. And then they go

we're going to post it tomorrow at 11 or something like that. And 11 came. I was so stressed. First, I was like, my life is ruined. And then 11 o'clock came. They didn't post it. 12 o'clock came. They didn't post it.

1 o'clock came. They didn't post it. And for a second, I was like, well, maybe. And I go, you know what? If they don't post it, I'm going to post it because I'm not living like this anymore. I'm posted. I didn't want to still live the same way because I was, dude, I was so depressed. This guy was like a comedy podcaster.

I was like, wow, dude, too much. But no, I think it's good. Everybody. When I was at those meetings, I was in the my career was just on a rocket ship. And I was so depressed and sad and drinking. And I've been sober since that day. Because I'm not in shame anymore because the shame is what took me down. Right.

And were you raised like a Christian? Yeah, the most Christian. So your parents were both like devout yeah yeah um church-going people yeah i thought the first time i ever kissed a girl i was like 22 i was a late bloomer as well yeah so was that because you were i was scared i was scared yes of god's judgment or of women uh god uh probably both and so was it hard for you to like probably both and so was it hard for you to like did that it seems like to me that would work twofold like i'd be afraid of having sex because of those factors then also i'd want to have sex more more yeah because they say no they say you can't right yeah yeah i remember we did a mission

like a church mission down in new orleans for the summer the whole summer in new orleans and they of course they were like they had all these bikes there and they go you can go this is they said they go you can go anywhere in new orleans except bourbon street don't go to bourbon street and i'm a 19 a boy i'm going there immediately yeah immediately because they go don't go there there's like i don't know what topless women or whatever and that's as soon as me and my buddy got a free we went there immediately that's just how religion kind of trains you a little bit so when all that stuff happened was did it feel like a rebirth in a sense yeah yeah and in terms of your spirituality did you was your faith sort of you know sort of a weaker level and then it got reinforced through the rehab process um yeah so you in in um like the the recovery community is so

like it i you know these big monster mega churches like if you go through the south i mean there's some here down in orange county this is huge saddleback church in orange county is like yeah that's a machine that is a there's something different they're getting like 80 000 people through there yeah and everybody in the in the um lobby the foyer everybody's dressed up khakis but you're like hey man how you doing doing great god bless you and then there's like you hear about these secret meetings and usually not at churches like that but you go to other churches a small lutheran church like the one and you go down there and there's always if you look in the in the instructions or the meetings it's always go to the

second door take a left it's very specific it's almost like a secret like a and then i i go because that's i came from the big church like and then i went to these meetings i go man if if jesus the man if he came back he would go to the meetings 100 yes dude i've never felt god more than in those years and i grew up catholic church and i yeah i felt it a little bit there at moments you know funeral or something yeah yeah but like the routine of it pretty hard for me to yeah to connect with but you go into a meeting and you hear people who have sin you have an empathy and forgiving other people and and that's what that's what if you're like you feel like a like a never felt closer to to god or spirituality than in in rehab which was wasn't it wasn't a christian you can kind of

decide who your own higher power is and the humility of it too yeah like we're all at the same place yeah and you go regardless like that's what you're like and you're not allowed to that you're not allowed to uh it's called no cross talk so a guy says i ruined my life uh i got i got fired from my job i can't quit drinking and you just gotta go thanks chuck and then it's just so my parents had to come to a meeting with me and they came to rehab part of the like thing is you got to go to a meeting and my parents came my dad's a pastor and all these people were just falling apart and he wanted so bad to be like and i got there's no there's no cross there's no help you do there well it's a it's extreme help but there's no you don't tell them

hey what i would do is you just go thanks man and pretty much you just go same and what do you think the benefit of that is well everybody they'll be trying to i i wanna everybody's trying you can talk to him afterwards in the parking lot and say hey if you really but it's like a control thing right it's like we want to control like we could fix this we can help but all that stuff is about abdicating control yeah and just being like yeah and just be like hey i'm just gonna let life do what life's gonna do and i'm not at the i'm not at the wheel on this let it you know it's wild in in in rehab it's like all of us are sitting around and uh there somebody um starts crying somebody starts crying crying and there's like tissues all around usually everywhere and if you get up and hand that guy they don't allow you if you were crying

they don't allow me to hand you tissues or you to hand him tissues why because you handing him tissue is saying hey i'm uncomfortable with this expression of emotion you're having. You are uncomfortable with it. You're saying, hey, button this up. I'm uncomfortable. So when somebody's crying, it's wildly therapeutic. It's wildly, if you just broke down sobbing. I've been doing it lately. So have I, a lot. It's so beneficial and it's so cleansing. And oftentimes other people are uncomfortable with it. And they, in the rehab process, they would go, then in the next session, they go, now, why did you do that?

Why did you hand him those tissues? It is true. Why when someone starts crying do our systems just go haywire? Lock, it's uncomfortable. Same with anger in a lot of ways like hey hey this is everybody's supposed to be so dormant and so but but it's but if you the best like i was at a concert the other day i was at a ben rector concert and i was i was moved to tears in the concert. And it was, it's like your face gets really like, crying is not attractive.

But it was so, it felt so good. It felt so good. I just started crying. I was weeping. And good on you for being able to be present in that moment. And like really, you're surrounded by people. Yeah, the people I were with who are safe people, they're not going to be like, oh, what a pussy or whatever.

They go, let him like. Oh, that's so valuable. Yeah're not going to be like oh what a pussy or whatever they would like they go let him like oh that's so valuable yeah and i was just like what were you feeling i was like a lot of gratitude a lot of happiness and i was overwhelmed by the i was like man and that makes me feel stronger like i feel more strong everybody's like what's going that everyone around you would feel more attracted to you. Not in a sexual way, men and women, but like that's a guy that. He's real. Yeah. And he's giving you permission to be real. Yeah.

That's nice. But it's, to express that. Yeah, you got to feel, you got to feel, but people do it in the meetings. You know, have you ever, there's other comics in the recovery community in Nashville. And you always go to a meeting and he says when at the meeting, someone breaks the meeting. Like opens it. So you can be like, okay. Because, you know, my.

It's like a school dance for all little tens. And somebody just goes, dude, I'm dying, man. And then everybody goes, thank you. This is why we came. Right. Because it's very surface level. Well, I'm trying to get a new job interview. And that's maybe what make me want to tempted me.

And then somebody goes, dude, I don't know if I'm going to make it to tomorrow. Like, I don't know if I'm going to live to tomorrow. And then everybody goes, thank you. Were you always in touch with your emotions prior to rehab therapy? No. Were you able to cry easily before? No. I just didn't.

I had no permission to do that whenever I was a kid or something. I never, no. Where did you grow up? At at Lilburn Georgia in the south and right outside of Atlanta small town yeah my dad's the mayor your dad's the mayor yeah that's cool she going to his City Council meetings did I love and what about your mom she's like yeah I'm one of eight kids are you so she just always works at the at the house which one are you third nice i'm yeah i'm fifth of seven are you right in the middle yeah do you feel you got that that's why you like me did you go to comedy because you needed

attention uh yeah well you know i'm i'm the baby of my mom's kids okay i was sort of the baby in that sense oh yeah um yeah i think i think definitely related to that need for attention for sure you need to get it i would i would perform for my family yeah i was always quiet and shy but i would perform yeah dude i'm the exact same exactly i would perform on the on the uh the uh fireplace yeah yeah all my cousins would be around out yeah dude we're the same person i was really an awesome power so like oh really awesome powers quotes yeah well you know what in in um i just started get i just started like first time i did stand up i go i'm gonna do this forever i'm gonna do this forever this is the most unbelievable rush of attention

and everything i didn't get and when i was you know i got into you know as an addict you got into and then i went in rehab they took away that other stuff and like you could there's no in rehab there's no they don't let you escape in any way so there's no obviously drugs alcohol sex uh no caffeine no sugar no fiction books no music no um no music no music no no um any even if you exercise and you get a runner's high from exercise i don't let you do that you just walk you can walk 30 minutes a day no no dopamine rush of any type because you're trying to drain you. Drain it all. And then the pain that you, whatever you're trying to escape from with all the addictions, you just have to sit with it.

Fuck. And then you realize, I always say when I went to rehab, I looked the devil in the eye. I looked him in the eye. What did he look like? It wasn't good, man. It wasn't good. Was it you? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wasn't like a guy with horns.

But I go, like death, you think about, I'm going to end my life. This is, this, this. The pain's too much. It's too strong. It's too, I go, I looked him in the eye and I had no, I had to. There was no, like now, even if you get on your phone, you're uncomfortable with an emotion, a thought, your girlfriend, a booker says like you just got ego i'm gonna even when i'm writing jokes and i'm uncomfortable with uh i can't think i go and i get in it i go on my phone because i can scroll and that kind of makes me gives you a distraction yeah it feels better for

a second and the radio and all this stuff but if you just sit with it it will you realize it's not that scary and i guess too like when you're saying that when you're looking at will you realize it's not that scary and I guess to like when you're saying that when you're looking at that thing and it's saying like hey you should you should get out of this you should it's so scary and I someone asked me they're like what's your greatest fear and it took me a minute but it was that I lay no and it was that I'm like permanently fucked yeah that like I can't fix yeah whatever it is I am and that's just gonna be it and he's gonna be there he's always

gonna be there and i can throw everything i got at it yeah but it's it's it's it's set it's done i'm not i'm not fucked up person yeah and to look at that that it's always no matter what career success or relationship success this thing is always and those things are always gonna blow up yeah no it's it's always it's gonna screw it up it's doomed because i'm a doomed that's that's that's the i looked him in the eye it's that and then what how what did you say or did you just sit and look at that well you just sit and and because i prior to uh rehab i i had to you do these big sold-out shows in these theaters, standing ovation,

meet-and-greet lines around the block three times. And to go around the corner, someone drop you off at a Hampton Inn, get a keycard for room 214 and shut that door was like a prison cell. It was

unbearable. It It was unbearable. It was absolutely unbearable. I had to either be with a woman or drunk to survive that. Really? It was the lack of attention? It was just the high from just the crash was just unbelievable. And just shooting dopamine into your brain on max. That's what a comedy show is.

It's incredible. If you do well. If you do, it's just like. And those people are looking at you in awe. And they're so grateful to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're just soaking that in. And they say, we drove from four hours to see you.

It's a very heavy responsibility as a human. And then they go, thanks. Here's your key card. We'll'll see in the morning and it was and did that and it was unbearable do you think if you would have stayed in georgia and like following your dad's footsteps a little bit and like done the more for lack of a better phrase like regular pursuit do you think you would have still gotten to this place or do you think the the career and the excitement and the attention kind of intensified everything i mean my dad asked me to take over his church when i was like in high school he's like you should you should you're the one yeah i don't

know if he might ask my brothers i don't know i never asked him but that was an option for me brothers i don't know i never asked them but that was an option for me and i didn't that didn't that didn't do much for me but i didn't pursue comedy at beginning but i when i i was doing a bunch of different things and kind of unhappy but i found comedy and i what i was gonna say is when they took away everything all the all the quote uh escapes drugs alcohol and i go uh i didn't do any drugs but all there was no and what and i was i didn't realize this was my addiction until when i was in rehab they took away all that stuff and i was like i'll be fine without women i like to be around women but i'm not i don't know you can take or leave that and then alcohol i go after three

weeks i go whatever that's not and then what happened was there's like a family week in rehab so your family either your wife comes or your kids come or your my parents came because i'm single parents came and there's another guy and his wife there's three of us that have families come at the same week we're all going through family week together i will never forget this the rest of my life did because it was in family week together i will never forget this the rest of my life did because it was in wickenburg arizona away from it's like a it's like a compound like nobody goes in or out and this woman that was another guy's wife came and she after the first session or whatever she goes hey are you john christ i go yeah goes, I'm like obsessed with your comedy.

And it was like, it was like, oh, that's it. That's it. It felt so good. Then I go, oh, that's what I'm, that's what I'm chasing. Not the, the alcohol was kind of a means to get to women to try to cover up this thing until i could get back to just being known or seen because my family not to my parents they are where they are but like i just never got attention and that comedy gave it to me and i thought it was all over. And that's what I wanted to end my life. And somebody came and said, hey, I know who you are.

And I think you're unbelievable. And I was like, oh, that's it. That was my addiction. And still is, by the way. Yeah, 100%. At this point, when you go home to the hotel room, not home, but when you go to the hotel room, yeah 100 at this point when you go home to the hotel room or not home but when you go to the hotel room yeah how do you what's your i don't know if fix is the right word but like what's

your substitution well it's not well the reason why i didn't want to go to the hotel room back then was because it was so scary because because of the shame all these people that had 5 000 people that came to my show i thought if they knew who I was, if they knew the truth about me, they would all hate me. And that shame is not with me anymore. So I don't feel the need to escape. I can just go and watch SportsCenter and... And what a gift that is.

Yeah, it wasn't the, yeah, it wasn't the, I'm not trying to escape of anything. I've been sober since that day. I mean, that's a superpower. I still struggle. I don't wanna be like, I wasn't the, I'm not trying to escape of anything. I've been sober since that day. I mean, that's a superpower. I still struggle. I don't want to be like, I don't want to. No, I know. Anybody in recovery is like, hey, data time, dude. I'm just lucky to be alive.

No one would be like, here's the five tips. Yeah. And it's a data time for everything. Not just staying away from the substances or whatever it is. It's a data time for everything. Yeah. We can't fix anything. No, but I'm not'm not like we can sit with

it yeah and that's the they said it your body will if you let it now it's impossible i think outside of rehab like people took alcohol from me i couldn't physically get to it so i didn't really in rehab that means expensive but like i would say it's pretty dang near impossible to live in the same community that you use in whatever you use and try to be sober it's disrespectful to addiction and the power of it you can't you can be i mean how many people have you heard like i'm quitting alcohol or i'm, for a month I'm going to go vegan or no more sugar. And then they get one night in and they go, God, I got to have some Oreos. I've quit the vape five times.

It's too strong. I'm about to pop a Zin. Yeah. I'm too strong. Oh, you did the Zin now. It's better for the podcast if I'm not vaping. Dude, nice. That was an eyesore.

But it's strong dude it's so it's you disrespectful to the endorphins and the and the chemicals in your brain to say like i'm gonna not do this yeah i i i had some issues with drinking my early 20s yeah and it's because i still have it a little bit but it's because i became a different guy the guy i wanted to be yeah yeah and i got attention for that because i was always shy and quiet and then i would get blacked out and i'd be this sort of like kind of crazier guy and everybody would like that guy everyone would like that guy yeah but and then when i sort of but i just it's sort of self-imposed sobriety now i'm sort of like you know here and there but yeah but um i think i i was able to but i think you know i was able to, but I think, you know, I was able to like through comedy, it's like that dopamine, that rush. You get it. Yeah.

Is through performing, you know. And they would say you're, yeah, if you took, there was a guy in rehab that he was a lawyer. He's a big time lawyer and he lost his license. He lost his license because he was a lawyer. He was a big-time lawyer, and he lost his license. He lost his license because he was addicted to cocaine. And he did it with clients, or he broke some rules. That's a licensed profession. He lost your license. And then he came to rehab, and it was like,

if you were sober for like a year, then you can get your license back. He was in rehab for five months relapsed and then the board came to him and said hey um you're never gonna get your license again and he overdosed and died really yeah because because does that make sense like he there was no path back to and his his identity was rooted in that guy yeah and if and me and rehab three months in if you said i i called my agent this is funny now but i go hey how many followers have i lost he goes oh none and then he goes i got a couple calls from some comedy clubs that want to book you whenever you're and i go oh wait what meaning like okay if i can kind of

Meaning like, okay, if I can kind of right the ship, I can see the way. I can see the way forward. And he, that was the only thing he knew, he's 40. He'd worked to be a lawyer, and they said you can never do it again. What, outside of Christianity or Jesus or whatever faith, what would you tell? Yeah, that's a tough sell

no i think i think people do in these conversations around people losing things and i i still don't know where i fall or what like how things should be uh decided and and what what consequences should be leveled i do think people underestimate what consequences should be leveled i do think people underestimate what it feels like to lose that thing that you've built your existence around and and and by extension of that like your self-worth yeah around and and obviously you know people make mistakes and they impact other people and and that's and there needs to be consequences absolutely it's a serious thing. It's a serious fucking thing. But I always do have empathy for the people who lose that thing because we're kind of fragile creatures. And we feel stronger when we have something like that.

A purpose. A purpose. And we get rewarded for that purpose. And that turns into how you think about yourself and there's there's negatives to that because then it's never enough or or you never feel full you never feel fully strong because you're always relying on this thing but that is yeah that is uh i get it that's that's all you're saying like oh like i can't believe anyone would would uh commit suicide or like but looking at the

you go i get i i i get it that's it i get i get i don't agree but i get i he goes so you're an addict and we do feel the heaviness of this like where i'm always going to have it right and so now you're telling him he the only place he had worth or value his family i'm not breaking confidentiality by saying this but his family had emancipated him like his addiction was so strong his family said legally we have to cut like legally not you cannot be in our family anymore like like excommunicating him because he because his addiction was so heavy so you have no family you got no kids you got no but you are good at this thing and you take that and you're 40 by the way or what are you gonna start like you're gonna work at cvs like what do you what do you going to start? Like, are you going to work at CVS?

Like, what do you tell? That's like a lot of people in prison that go for drugs. They make, you know, 40, 50 grand in a drug deal. And you're in prison and you get out in your mid-40s and you're telling them to go work at Staples? It's just a tough sell, dude. Yeah, I hear you but i guess if it happened to me and and i've thought about it we all have those nights where we think about

what would you do if it all got you know flipped for whatever reason whether it's personal choice or even just like the world changes or something like that but do you do you feel like i guess it's more interesting to ask you like do you feel like if it if it had gotten taken away from you could you have taken those steps is that kind of what scares you about it yeah yeah yeah is that what scares you about is that like you're like oh i could see myself in that guy's situation and i and i i don't know if empathy is the right word but i go you go yeah that makes sense now being on the other side being on the other side like we had a buddy that's in prison he's and i saw his mom at

a show at a meet and greet i go where's i'm not gonna say his son's name but i go where is he and he goes oh he's in prison i go what and he was in prison in that city and we were performing in that city and i go well let's go see him she was like what i go yeah let's go see him because i and he had um he had five duis and he's in prison and i and he's if you're in prison i don't i've never been in prison but you feel so low you feel so hopeless you feel so low. You feel so hopeless. You feel so, I go, man, being on the other side, I got so much hope for someone that can. I go, I have to tell him. I have to tell him. This is what makes me cry. I have to tell him that don't kill yourself.

Because this other side is so. Like if you can figure out the way, it's unbelievable over here. And every message I got in rehab, I mean, I'm a public figure, I guess, and they found out where I was. I got stacks of mail every day. Stacks of mail every day from people I did not know. But everyone was the same story. 20 years ago, I got a DUI. 15 years ago, I cheated on my wife and lost my whole family. 10 years ago, I was a CEO of a company.

I got caught at a massage parlor. And everyone had come to this other side. And their life was not amazing, but they were better for it. And they knew. And they knew that if someone, they knew what that feeling was to be at the bottom. And they go, and there's been, you know, Sam Hunt got a DUI or Chris D'Elia or all the,

or people like that. I go, just don't kill yourself. Just don't kill yourself. Because it's, you're so compelled to get the message to them. Because you have been there. I got a message from a guy that was at the old comedy club that I used to work at. One of the waitresses' dad, who lived in Nebraska and was a football coach. I got a letter from him. A handwritten letter. dad who lived in Nebraska and was a football coach,

I got a letter from him, a handwritten letter that a guy I met once. And I go, how did you even get the address? He saw my story on the news and he knew I was religious and he knew I loved being a comedian and he liked my comedy. And he goes I have to find this guy and tell and encourage him I have to because I know he's dying I know he's dying and I feel the same way about other other people that you know they love to do a job

and they get either you know they blow up family, make a horrible choice with alcohol or addiction or drugs or whatever. And I go, God. And I feel nothing but people on the news getting, I go, it's not funny to me. I don't have jokes about people. And I go, someone, let's reach out to him. Let's go see him in prison. Let's go because you know that they're dying.

But everybody in the meetings are like that. No, it can be overwhelming at times too yeah but i do find myself i don't know more connected to everybody because of it and and also more connected to myself which i think is so important but i'm kind of stuck on like, and it's heavy, but that instinct to not wanna go on when that stuff is lost, is it because like of attachment Is it because of attachment to how people thought of us or how we thought of ourselves? Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I get it totally. And it's kind of, I don't know if this is even helpful to the conversation, but like, what is it that would make it so hard to just be that dude at Staples or CVS? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. Well, I think it's like, you're like, I said this recently where when I got to rehab, they were saying, you're a good man. We love you. You made some poor choices, but you're deserving of life. You're a human being.

You deserve joy. You deserve happiness. We're proud of you. And I go, what? I was so confused by that. I never heard that before because I was very religious. If you make a mistake, it's shame. You're bad.

You're disconnected from God, from other people, hide. And they would encourage me so much all during the day, I would go home, this is what I struggle with in rehab, I would go home and I would get on Twitter and I would search my name and see all the horrific shit being said about me. I would go there, because I was so uncomfortable with someone saying,

you're a good man. I never believed that since I was born. Because you didn't feel like you were good enough unless you were doing something. That's the only way, like you said, on the mantle at home, earning, and then the drinking later, earning. Somebody see me me somebody at least

i think it's cultural too like kervonagate said like we're the only culture like a contemporary american culture that doesn't have like uh a paragon of like the poor enlightened person like everyone we worship in our culture yeah is it's attention it's success like there's no example who has the most currency attention yeah there's no example like i guess most other cultures have like oh there's someone they look up to someone they look up to who's not a big swing and dig point and then here we're like no no no no we don't have that we don't have that guy from cvs who's just a good dude and is content like a normal life and just be decent we don't have a guy like that that we all like are like it wouldn't work because we couldn't build anything yeah and so what you're saying is

is if if you to be the guy that works at cvs and just he plays intramural volleyball or whatever in his group and go it's just a nice guy so you yeah so you in rehab in essence you you let go of this like tarzan you let go of this rope and this other one you you never you don't know what it is like to just not pursue i don't know more followers or bigger something you just free falling you just go i don't know, more followers or bigger. Some. You're just free falling. You just go, I don't even know what any of this is. I don't even know. Like, they don't, you can't, in rehab,

they're not allowed to say what your job is. And you're not allowed to say your last name. So you just go, my name's John. And as a man, I think it's like, everybody in there is a doctor, lawyer, surgeon, professional athlete, entertainer, because they're all there. That's how narcissism just gets out of hand in those. And you just sit there and go, my name's John. And then you're like, I want to play ping pong it's so it's so and that's all you it's very vulnerable but that's all we ever had i'm just a fucking dude i'm just a dude i'm just a

fucking dude i don't have anything to dress it up in i can't right but that's how everyone i would say one it's wants to at their most basic wants to be loved not because you do anything just because you are a human right and do you think a lot of it too is a sense of purpose like it's the kind of thing where it's like with the lawyer for example it's like in his mind he's like i was this is what i'm good at this is what i was put on this earth to do yeah and then when you take that away from me it's like what's where's my worth what am i yeah it's like me it's like what's where's my worth what am i yeah it's like i it's like you've taken away my ability to be a contributing member of society in his mind yeah untrue yeah no but but very true to him yes this is the only way like i've dated women

i'm in a relationship now but i've dated women where they go hey just don't you want to just stay here tonight and just like watch a movie like do you have to go to like do a set or like do you got to go to the zany zany's i live in nashville do you got to go down like i hear you but i go that's all i've, you don't understand what my relationship is with this thing. It's given me everything. It's taken everything, but it's also given me everything I have. And down there, I'm not a God, not lowercase g. I'm a God when I go on the road.

That's the feeling. Yeah. And to just sit here and just like do the dishes, it's just- Is there a voice in your head too when you're with her, you're like, I don't trust that you'll like me if I don't have that other thing going. Yep. Because that's how you earned it your whole life. Exactly. other thing going yep and because that's how you earned it your whole life exactly and then somebody shows up and and like when after everything happened to me that people were like people

would stop people still did to yesterday just go hey man like i've been following you for a long time but you're you're you're it's just awesome to see what you're doing. And you've really encouraged me and your story has been an inspiration. You go, what? You tell, the first time somebody said that to me after everything, they go, hey man, we love you. And it was so confusing because you never, I, I go, what? What about the people, have you had any contact with like the aggrieved parties or the other side yeah yeah what's um

have you felt like growth or or reconciliation there yeah well in um so in rehab all they ever do is they get you to um see the other person's perspective right see the look at it from the other side like you look at like i look at oh i'm a i'm a public figure you guys came to my show you wanted to hook up and you you dm'd me first or whatever that's how you go in very like oh this is bs everybody's trying to cancel me because i'm successful yeah we're the that's how you start that's how you start and then you're kind of in there for a month and someone goes yeah you know what if you just came to like enjoy a comedy show and the guy up there you like you

like let's say you uh enjoyed the show and you like posted an instagram story you're like lol had a great time and you're like it's you and your girlfriends and that guy dms you like what's up it's it's very it's that jarring it's very jar and i go oh these are two adults yeah sure and then you keep spending more and more time in rehab and then they go man and i was performing in like churches so you go all right if you have any past not trauma but like let's say you dated a a guy, he turned out to be shit. Maybe your pastor, you trusted him, and then he turned out to be what you have some kind of history with a lot of people have religious trauma, a lot of people. And then I come along. And I'm like, hey, what's up?

You're beautiful. I love you. I'm on the road. But if not, I'd love to date you. And then you're like, you put a lot of hope in me. This guy is going to, John is different. And you find out I'm that guy too. I understand why you're pissed. And I very much, I go, I'm on there.

I'm on people on the internet. Like i'm on people on the internet like i never people on the internet like defend me i go hey i made a lot of i don't apologize to people that are angry on twitter like demanding my like like picketing and not but the physically that i would that yes that i feel great amount of of to make amends for that now people screaming on twitter that's but that's not that's not the court that's not they're not looking for redemption or forgiveness or reconciliation they're just that's a different thing but the actual people that yeah i've had many conversations with them and you go oh but you start being like ah like you dig yourself in the ground you know you dig you're like i defend yeah and then you go yeah yeah i get that i get why you're on it upset when i get digging into the ground too

because you're getting kind of rocked by everyone crushed yeah and there's a party that wants to say like but hey like i'm not all those things i'm some of those things yeah but not yeah you don't yeah yeah yeah and it's like i'm a complicated person and then there's the party that's like and you are too like we're all imperfect so and if you came to me like most of the conversations i've had honestly with with women that we go hey i'm so sorry i was a part of that too I didn't realize you were struggling and I used you also I was it's like two insecure people feeding off each other they both in the long run they lose but in the night during that night they both have used each other to win totally yeah and that's that's the thing that we're in

person reconciliation is different and people screaming on Twitter. No, yeah, I don't think that's a very... That's not helpful to anything, but yeah. No, it's just, I don't know. But people are dealing with their own stuff, you know? Yeah, it's weird, though. We had a conversation about the empathy toward the other side, about the, I mean, I was going to say not to get too deep,

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help you it's not doing what it thinks it's doing but it's going here yeah it's use this this will help you it's it's it's trying to look out for you yes it's you're trying to keep you safe now yes so the the addiction and going to the um meetings and stuff is like hey we don't hate this addict we don't say screw him we go hey um tell me what you're feeling right now. I know you're angry. I know you want to go look at porn or I know you want to go tell me why you're feeling that way. What is uncomfortable about? Why do you want to escape? And that kid, I don't know him or I don't know who he is, but addiction escalates, right?

So it started where it's a progressive disease yeah however that started it was a little bit of an escape from him and a lot of that stuff is like like maybe like mutilating the animals and stuff like it starts like that and then it it's progressive mushrooms well now that now that you're like it seems like you've integrated a lot more of like all the sides of yourself do you find it easier to be like light and like joyful yeah 100 yeah yeah well i don't want to be i don't want to be like when i got my two-year chip i go yo i should like post this i should post i should post this this would be my most liked post especially everything i've

gone through this would be my most liked post of in three years yeah but i go all right if i post this first of all why am i posting this 10 minutes later i'm going to check to see if i got any likes and see how good it's doing that's that is your addiction and it's you being good and getting credit for that and then i go and also i used i lived in i i told a story where i did a show at a church and then i went to a texas roadhouse with a bunch of pastors from the church and i wanted to drink and i go i ordered a sprite and then i acted like I was going to the bathroom and I found the waitress and I go, hey, can you give me a triple vodka Sprite in a Coke glass? So these pastors won't know that I'm drinking and I paid her in cash, 40 bucks or something like that. So I went, I drank in secret and I did everything in secret.

That's how the religion. So I go, if i post sober guy i'm sober guy now and then if i start drinking i gotta go back into the closet and do it again i i feel that's to build up that the guy again and i go don't put me on any any the bigger the platform the bigger the the shadow is what they say i go don't put me up to be like gavin newsom or joel osteen or i don't want to be a part of i just want to i don't want to be it i'll help you if you come to me privately and it's it's hard if you're a public figure yeah because we want to look up to and worship these people too and we i i struggle

with that where i'm like i want there to be perfect people i want there to be heroes that i can wish their well love unapologetically but the truth is even the people who have done great stuff were by and large deeply deeply deeply deeply flawed yes yeah people that's the story of the whole bible unfortunately not unfortunately but anyone in there is that yeah and then you're like well so do i just not look up to people it's like well no you you emphasize the parts that work and you yeah try to be a little more cognizant of the other stuff too well the i guess the problem was if you if you with my cancellation it was so uh traumatic or newsworthy or whatever because if you're you i never said i was any of the things i never said i didn't drink i never said i was i'm a single guy i never said i wasn't dating i never said but i guess

they put me you if you followed me and i said i was a christian you were like he must be i go y'all put me up here and then you found out that I was drinking and it ruined your image of me. But I go, you put me up there. And then, of course, I come out and I'm sober and all these churches, they come to our church, tell us your redemption story. I go, y'all put me up here. Y'all also brought me down. And now y'all are going up here y'all also brought me down and now y'all are gonna i go i'm well and we love that as people we love yeah you love it we love the up and down and i go i can't give you

guys back the power to be able to crush me again i mean it wouldn't happen it would but i go i can't put my worth back in your hands unfortunately and see you didn't post about the chip no i think that's huge man i've but people go back and forth because there are people that i m&m did it and i was encouraged by no it's beautiful when someone does it it's beautiful it's great hey whatever if you can help people get better that's fucking absolutely always good absolutely or or if like there will be of course there'll be a bunch of people in the comments. It'll be like, and you want to screenshot them and post them. Mm-hmm.

Because why? Wait, screenshot who? Like in this YouTube, there are a lot of people that are going to be like, we watched the podcast. We were encouraged by it. Oh, yeah. That popped into that popped into my head a couple times yeah you want to screenshot it and repost it to say everybody i'm same with performing on the on the fireplace the same hey everybody look at me yeah i remember when i was sober yeah i did three years yeah i never wanted to talk about publicly because well for me because i wanted to drink again yeah it's that same thing i'm like

you know you should talk about you should talk i'm like no because i know i just yeah yeah and i feel the same way i just knew yeah i was like i'm not gonna because then i'm not gonna brand myself like that yeah yeah yeah because i think that the the struggle we have with all those guys that are those those mega church pastors or whatever you go that can't be yeah right but then you know what you know what's tough is then when we started becoming known is then i was branded as a party guy oh yeah and then and then we were getting like advice from like people were like come to our party yeah i was like oh fuck yeah now i'm like a yeah you're that guy i was like how can i be like the house party guy yeah but not like but not want to drink

and then show up to a party and then like be a sober guy i was like that was a huge thing if you were sober yeah they'd be like and you were just like doing and then like be a sober guy. I was like, that was a huge fun fact. If you were sober, they'd be like, and you were just like doing shots of like water the whole time, they were like, wait, what? It's a Sprite. Yeah, let's go. That does sound sick though. I would take a shot of Sprite.

I think that's interesting too about how we think about ourselves. Like in your head, you're like, oh, they'll think I'm like boring or not as exciting as, but I find you more interesting uh like i love you any which way but like it there's something about us where we're like we're like we think we're more interesting that way but it's not actually no yeah the case like a really solid person who can do those things but is really solid and just like able to sit at home and watch

tv and be content with that to me is like that's fascinating right you know what i mean that's rare like i know a bunch of dudes who can get fucking ripped at a party and like dance on a table and that's cool as fuck but like it's cool but i don't i'm not like i'm much more interested in someone who can like like you were talking about go back to the hampton inn and sit there and watch sports center and be like hey i had a fucking great night and then yeah and then well thank you yeah and i think um it goes back twofold in college you know it's like it was sort of it came back of like of like now i'm the party guy again yeah so now my value is placed in that if i can't if i can't if i can and that's in my mind i was like

that's what people expect from me now yeah and if i can't if i can't meet that expectation i'm nothing i'm nothing and then on top of that the culture which i think is shifting a little bit i guess you just see it on social media maybe with sobriety and stuff with a lot of times they'll be like yeah they're like oh you're boring kind of thing yeah which i was like i was i was just so afraid of being boring but not yeah you know well if you if somebody comes up to you in the airport or wherever recognizes you are you are you the guy um i i think it's just so i i guess maybe i perk up a little bit but i just think it's so kind of you know muddled yeah it's all yeah maybe i've become more of the guy just in general well if you think

about like you're you're yeah like what celebrity of of even 20 and 30 years ago it's like it like if you love tom cruise you are a super fan of tom cruise you're interacting with him guilty for two yeah okay fair yeah you're interacting with him he hasn't said anything enough the whole time he's like this is where he's like oh this is now he's speaking to me if you're a super you're interacting with him for two and a half hours once every 14 months yeah no one knew of tom crew or we didn't care yeah we it was a no one he's like playing a character first of all we have no idea if that's him we were happy for just that slice of it yeah i go and now it's like you want to know you follow these people on instagram you know what you like you know his you know your

girlfriend you know like where he lives you know like what kind of like stuff he's and you're like this is a lot you can consume of you if you're a fan of you so there is it also does that's what happened to me it's like oh we thought he was we followed him every day yeah we watched his Instagram stories every day we had no idea who was deep in depression he was presenting us this and then we find out wait what so what does that depression like look like like does the camera shut off and then you're like heavy and you're just perking up for when it's well i think running or you can get the you can get the the the drug from it right from it's like it's like yeah you get on it and you're like yeah so it's not even a choice really it's like once that thing turns on the whole system yeah it's kind of like it's gas

yeah yeah you're getting gassed up and then you're like oh okay this is and then and then you go and i remember coming home if i didn't have a show for, you know, during the day I like to work and that's my kind of drug during the day. And I would make an Instagram story at like about four or five feet. And this is back in 2019, 18. I'd make an Instagram story because I knew I drum up a lot of followers. You drum up a lot of messages and a lot of DMs and a lot of interactions,

and that would last me through the night. If I didn't have a live Instagram story, and I would make one at 5 p.m. just so I could get to it. No, I've had that. If something doesn't go right, uh yeah a couple years ago i was like dating a gal and she like canceled plans on me that day and i was like i had already allocated so much of like my life force and purpose that day to to me and her like fusing or whatever in the way that i was like i was just so geared up for it you know i mean i was like this is gonna be

like you're gonna get all your needs yeah yeah it was like pre-game of like the finals or something yeah and then she cancels and i end up doing like 40 stories that day of me like shopping at a lululemon or something and it was great fuel like the whole thing was like funny you know but like oh i'm good yeah and then i was like okay i i and then i felt so good about myself for channeling it into something else yeah but yeah i don't know i don't even know how i'm trying to learn i don't even know how to be productive without that without that process if you were whatever we're talking about this whole healthy would we even want to no fuck no we won't be chilling in the other room watching sports center it'd be fucking hard

I mean that's the hard part I think about like when I hear you talking about it's a tough thing to come back from to be doing again what you're doing but having to be trying to do it from a place of like well they go like my one of my they go don't like go

like get healthy because we don't we want you to be alive we don't want you to kill yourself but don't get too healthy meaning like still be like have that edge god like if you still like at the airport and the guy tries to come you're like i'm gonna kill him you know still have whatever no you still want to have that yeah yeah it's true you still want to have that i'm like It's true. You still want to have that. I'm like, Carl Young said, like, we only respect a person who like, we don't respect someone who doesn't have the bull in them. We respect the person who's corralled the bull. Yeah.

And can like deploy it when it's necessary. Yeah. You have to have the, he called it like the capacity for danger or. That sounds like Jordan Peterson or something like that. Totally. That's the hard part about all these good thinkers too, is that at some point they all get co-opted by people who use it for the most base reasons and then you're like well

the guy was actually pretty smart but it's like then okay then okay that would that's that's what i knew when everything i knew everything with fauci had gone wrong or had the potential you know like you see some of these like young like you know this justin bieber like uh not not his like pastors but those guys you see him start oh this is gonna go bad like when anthony fauci threw out the first pitch at the i go oh we're done dude we're done because now it's turned into something else oh it's oh he's a he's a doctor that is is is given his life to help i go oh we're done yeah we're done no because now he's famous now he's he's wanting oh we're done now you're placating yeah now you're you want the spotlight

if you're throwing out the first pitch now you want and you're gonna say whatever it keeps that so we're it's a wrap no it's true and it's quick it's funny how fast we turn because like at the beginning of the pandemic we wanted heroes so then like you know i had tons of girls on instagram posting about how like sexy andrew cuomo is you know because he was like the hero we needed at that moment it's gonna go and then once you start seeing them post being like i'm a cuomo sexual or whatever you're like dude it's just just start the clock you know you lit the fuse it's over wait this what happened with him yeah exactly i don't even remember him until you just said i know he went down for sexually harassing like half his staff yeah it's gonna happen and then for doing like crazy like uh counter pressure on them like using all like his powers of power to like

you know silence them or whatever because you you start to that that gets in there a little bit yeah once he wrote a book on how to handle the pandemic yeah it's a wrap i just shake hands now yeah you're like you got caught bro you gotta think about think about the the the director of public health or the cdc whatever his name whatever whatever to throw out the first pitch meaning somebody goes hey of all the celebrities we choose you because you have contributed that's the ultimate we see you and it was the first pitch of like the first the the first of the season the big whatever the big one was and then i just watched that i go oh

immediately this this this voice cannot be trusted anymore immediately i think every one of those people it's like i'm reading this book about jfk and they're they're pre-world war ii right now and it's like neville chamberlain makes this deal with hitlers to prevent war and like uh czechoslovakia and everyone's like you're a hero and he's like i'm the fucking man i prevented war and then like the rap a year later everyone's like you're an appeaser you're a bitch and you change the course of history in a negative way it's like the only option for these people who are all hypocrites and fools to some level is every time they try to give you something you just have to start with i'm a huge piece of shit this could go terrible

i don't know either like fauci should have grabbed a mic at the first pitch and be like i'm also a fucking idiot i made these 30 mistakes i'm hiding some stuff i'm trying my best but don't trust me yeah or fact check me against somebody else right yeah yeah you can't present yourself as like then it's then yeah and some people are able to do like i feel like bill burr is a good example of that where like he goes i'm an idiot after every bit he goes i'm an idiot don't listen to me and if people praise him he's just like dude shut the fuck up yeah yeah like he's that's the he's got that boston humility where he's just like dude i'm a fucking idiot and i'm an idiot don't yeah but listen to me but it's tougher if you're falchion i guess to be like you have to be like listen to me yeah

he's a doctor yeah it's funny um yeah i just couldn't imagine you know like somebody that's like a yeah i guess we're very critical on this side of it but you go i just i couldn't imagine a a couple that's like a touring like marriage counselor i go no oh couples yeah public couples no i go no way no way ever just by the way it's dude you go no doom dude doomed doomed bro but you do you go you stand up there in front of everybody go this is how you have a healthy marriage dude you know you know his big one who we talked about this before jared the subway guy is he what well you can't present yourself as the subway guy no it's the ultimate burden

you knew you knew yeah i was i was this is my clip with my brothers because i i had no idea what i was talking about but i was just like we still don't by the way we still have no idea yeah i saw him on a commercial i was like i don't like that dweeb it's my brothers and they're like how'd you know how'd you know and i was like i didn't know you need to go i was just i was just mad that he's a subway guy yeah Yeah, I don't like this. Well, all the, whenever you watch like a, a lot of people would love like Murder Mystery or like those podcasts that you go, because you go, somebody got murdered,

something horrible happened and all these characters and you go, this guy from like down the street normally like takes out his trash every Tuesday, but this time he took, you go, this guy from like down the street normally like takes out his trash every Tuesday. But this time he took, you go, what's going on here? You go, we all live under the same, like if you were like, if you said, hey, I need to go down to like, I need to go down to like, let's say Fresno. I love Fresno. And you're going out there every week you're like i like what we would go he's up to something what's going on out there what's

going on out there it's something bad there's a chick there's a drug there's something yeah you go what what if you're like no i just like love fresno i just like the joy like the joy the drive like we would go no because it doesn't make sense. You just go, we all live under the same social rules of humanity. And when somebody, you just go. And we like picking up on that stuff. We're looking because we are that. Because we are that.

Yeah. And you do whatever you go. Nope. And then once you put your, like the doomed couple couple thing like once you say like hey we're the ideal company and they can try as hard as they want to be like hey i'm also fucked up it's like nah nah you took up the mantle yeah and now we've all got our sights like that's why we want to crush you yeah i'm watching you extra like i'm i'm clued i'm looking for every detail because it makes you feel like you know remember uh it's you know tim tebow of course this is you can double

check this but this is i'm pretty sure like ashley madison the uh they offer remember that they offered a million dollars if somebody could prove he said he was a virgin tim tebow goes i'm a virgin until i get married and and they by the nature of their business they hate that they hate someone with virtue or someone with conviction they go we'll offer anyone a million dollars if they can prove they had sex with them right because that was a giant mirror to people that were cheating on their spouses and making they go we this this makes us so uncomfortable we have to we have to tear this down yeah it's and it's our favorite thing to do i mean i think favorite with like even i was thinking about it with the amber herd trial

and people were so stoked to be stoked and i was i was watching it intently and i was like i was as excited by the theater of it and of like the johnny depp like reclamation of it as anyone but it did make me think i'm like oh we get more fired up about that of like the Johnny Depp like reclamation of it as anyone but it did make me think I'm like oh we get more fired up about that than like the thing that supposedly caused it or like we didn't yeah we yeah like the Jussie Smollett thing like I had family members who were like

so fired up about that they were like can you believe this fucking guy can you believe this fucking guy and it was incredibly like irresponsible and and awful but like i asked one of my family members i was like i've never heard you get that fired up about when that shit actually does happen and and do i think this family member is like a little bit racist probably but but i also think there's just something it love it baked into us that like if someone cries

wolf yeah that's that's just like when you're a kid and you're in school and some kid like makes up some shit and you catch them on that. It's aww. Like that for humans is. There's nothing better. There's no better like social feeling or like high than that where we're like, we caught you. It's the collective like schadenfreude. Yeah. We're like, we caught you playing victim.

Like, oh, you're so fucking dumb. And it's also happened to me. And it's, I would not wish it on my worst enemy. I would not wish what happened to me on my worst enemy. And like, you know, it happens every couple months with a Christian public figure. And I, when it happens to them, I still screenshot. I don't publicly, but I send it to my buddies. Can you believe of course

and i it's happened to me right and i know now i would never post something publicly because i know how horrific to i know these people read their mentions they read them they read their comments yeah i would never but i go look at that or like you go yeah and you want to you want to get into it we love it i wonder what that is it's i don't know but man it's powerful it is and it's a lot of fun it's very fun yeah it's a um the celebration of the downfalls like yeah i don't know i but i i always people are doing it now with amber hurt they're crushing her well yeah i mean i'm seeing articles and stuff where they're just like she's likely broke now she'll never work again and you're just like you know we're like yeah well remember the just like

i just think karmically i don't think we should celebrate anyone's kind of misfortune and a lot of it's people who feel victimized by something that hasn't even happened to them yeah but they feel no relation to it i remember the girl that was like that she was like standing up for racism but then we found out she was white she had like the rachel dolezal yeah amazing that one is amazing even now as we're having this now i know but she she was most likely if we got her in there she was if she would tell us the story about that she would say it was well i would look the devil in the eye too right i don't know her but she was like it was horrific no i think i would i

bet i bet you at the end of a long conversation with her i would we would love her i have nothing but empathy for yes that's everybody maybe not but like i'm betting who's that bill burr has that bit about he's like even if trump and hillary if they had to go on like a five-hour road trip together they'd be like and then they'd be like you know stop and get a burger yeah and then somebody goes i gotta go to the bathroom and they go all right and then by the end of it you're like ah yeah i guess i guess we like with those people that we feel no uh like push to connect to them we're like oh finally there's someone i can just fucking hate yeah yeah like i can just write this person off especially because when they are so virtuistic or so when they when they played that highest yeah and you go because everybody knows when we are when i am alone

and no cameras are on or nobody's i do things i'm embarrassed of and that makes me feel shame and when you see another person being maybe they do have their life together it it's a reflection on well i don't like that so when they come down and you're here they come down you are now yeah we're a little above them we are a little yeah we feel that way yeah it's not true but yeah do you think we're turning the corner with that you know a little bit yeah it seems like in terms of all that kind of stuff it's it's starting to better itself i think well i we i'm 38 i don't know how old you guys are but we're the ones that grew up without it and now like social media or now and now have it and the kids that i've always had it are like it it's kind of in its rightful place to them i feel like younger kids like oh i got roasted or i got they go it doesn't but like if you my mother wants to go knock on the

door of everyone that says a negative thing about me and be like, why did you say that about my son? And if someone ever said something about my mother or my parents' age, it's World War III. I go, I understand. It's a kind of part of the – when the kids younger than us are better at it, then they have a – they've interacted with it for the first time like you ever or you or got a negative thing said about you publicly it was earth-shattering

so it's a punch the gut yes and sometimes they're very smart sometimes they see something in you they say something about you publicly that you've been trying to you know make small and then they make it they bring it into the light and you're like you're like fuck like is everyone is everyone gonna think of me this way yeah it's uh it's scary it is so scary but now now you go like oh i'm getting you know crushed on some thread or on reddit or something but i also sold 3 000 tickets tonight yeah so you go if i'm have to believe one of these these are real people that really got dressed took a shower went out to dinner and got a parking spot and came in here and paid a hundred bucks to see me this by default then cannot be reality it is it's it exists but it's not i do think yeah whatever that is i think the culture at large is

starting to see the twitter voices as for what they are yeah which is like a very small minority of people and so i think now it's it's you're able to i think people are able to sort of come compartmentalize they're like oh that's just like a few people on twitter versus the real world which is yeah i think much uh much more much when no one knows that has anyone ever said anything negative or hurtful to you guys in person a little bit where you know it's more like a casual rudeness though they don't like go in for the jugular they just like oh they know your your work they know your work and they just try to punk you in a way where they don't feel on

equal footing when they're talking to you yeah they go the micro so they just start hitting you with little digs and seeing how that uh like what you do with that and you kind of just have to you can either and that's probably just part of it you got this part of it yeah and i've had moments where i've been like what what are you saying to me and i've also had moments where i just smile through it and i'm just like all right that's just this dude's energy but and he's sees whatever i'm'm doing. He doesn't, yeah, he's just, he has his own. And he obviously has enough of a feeling about it to come talk to me, but he hasn't made up his mind

whether he likes me actually or whether he can sit here with me and just chill. Yeah. I think people have talked about my teeth both online and in person. Yeah, have they? Yeah. And what does it do to you?

Well, they're veneers so i'm like whatever dude no it gets me you know something well you know what my pledge when i was in a fraternity my pledge sergeant whatever he's like you got donkey teeth and i was like dude he's like yeah call me gumby really you gumby and uh dude um i just find it funny now well my when i was in the fraternity we were all uh we all i was very skinny i'm pretty still pretty skinny but i was even skinnier i was six two and like 140 pounds yeah in college and we were all you know if you stand we're maybe we're in our we weren't naked i think we're in our boxers or in our underwear maybe we were shirtless for some reason we're all standing right over left in the in against the wall facing the wall so i have the same type story and he said i had uh my shoulder blade stuck out and he said i had back boobs why are you laughing at that dude i'm just kidding no you know what makes me laugh about it is that

it's the same type story about you they just do that where they get you you're like oh fuck i thought i've been thinking about it every day since yeah you're like fuck my gums especially when you're young that's great some bullies like some bullies are good at being bullies and they can find the thing like we were tough to come back we were like frenemies with this hot dude in high school yeah and like if i would have looked at him i there wasn't a thing about him that i thought you could make fun of he was smart yeah he's handsome he was confident i was like he's bulletproof yeah and then my friend who was like the best at bullying was like he's got long nipples and he's like he's got nipples you could

like light a match off of and then pretty soon everyone's making fun of this guy about his nipples yeah which is such a non-starter. And I was like, dude, like credit to you. We got to go with it. You found the one thing like on his anatomy that was at all worth making fun. And I was like, how did he even spot that? But he got it in a glance. High school kids are tough.

Like college is tough. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I never forgot what they said they I never forgot what this I never forgot yeah and I don't I know what the guy's name is too I remember exactly where I was yeah could you just go somebody has a bit about that millennia or somebody has a bit about high school kids junior high kids being like a nice child bearing hips he's like how'd you know I'm sensitive about that

yeah I also think though if they're finding you that you have like what was the insult a that's great back boobs what was the insult they? That's great. Back boobs. Back boobs. My shoulder blades. If it's something small like that, I think that means you're doing pretty well. Because like if you were really, you know, some homely looking person, you're like, God damn, you're ugly. It'd be way more macro and obvious.

Like they had to search. They got to get in. Yeah. He had to find something. I mean, you can just say that now when I'm in my in my 30s i can put it into context i know he was just a bully right but not at the time no of course not no we don't have the design for that i watched full metal jacket last week and i always wonder what a drill sergeant would say to me and would you be able to not laugh oh yeah like that if they're yelling at you like you big

tooth piece of shit i'd be like oh my god this is hilarious you'll be like and if the other guys if it was doing it to the other guys you start laughing yeah because they did it they did a um in my fraternity because they ask you all the questions about the history yeah let's try to like uh yeah the extraordinary gentleman that came yeah yeah yeah and then they go one time they go there was a there's a guy named burkhart and there's a guy named lancaster two guys and uh burkhart was was interviewing me i was you know i had uh my son my blindfold on we're on the woods middle of nowhere and he quizzed me about the history of the fraternity and if you knew all the answers they couldn't punish you make you do whatever get on your knees or do push-ups or whatever

so he goes he goes chris and i go sir yes sir that's how you say sir yes sir and he goes if you and lancaster's sister were in the woods together alone and she got bit on the nipple by a poisonous snake would you suck out the venom or let her die and i'm like 18 and these are like the authorities and i i'm like uh and you know the lancaster was you know over in the field 50 yards. And he goes, I go, and I like, I mean, you didn't, I didn't, I thought it was very serious. Like, I didn't understand Joe. I don't know what I was thinking.

And I go, sir, to save her life, I would suck Lancaster's he's like what and then he goes lancaster get over here chris said he would suck your sister's titty and then he go what and then it's like a whole like it's like a whole that'd be pretty hilarious so scared i was so scared i took it so seriously yes so did i you had seriously i took it because i i my this guy jimmy i really wanted to be in a fraternity with him and i was like i gotta be in pike with jimmy and so and so they they knew how seriously i took it so they're like you know dude we talked it over yes and we cannot give you a bid and i was like oh no and then they like came back they like walked out they did the same thing if we do everyone does it yeah mine's the exact same like we're just kidding i was like oh oh you guys got me so good

yeah they're just like oh it's all worth it they really do a good job of making you take it seriously where you're like you're like this is like when i was a pledge like i was like to my brother i was a pie capify you're probably i was like to my brother stupid yeah i was like to my brother i'm like yeah i'm a pledge right now so it's you know he's like you take that shit seriously i was like you're like hey i can't talk i was like what i can't talk about it yeah my roommate i was my roommate wasn't uh in greek life and i would always come back and he's like what dude what did you guys do and i go can't talk about it then they you have like the, ours is called the oral boards

where they have the review from like the nationals. You're right, right. It was like an alumni that lived in town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was like some, he's like, Chris, we looked at your, like, and they're like, what? And he's like, yeah, so stupid, dude.

Do those exist still? Frats? Yeah. Oh, for sure. They do? Dude, I think they're hard to kill. Like, I think like there was a time where like Harvard thought they were going to get away from like their social clubs yeah but if there's

any kind of system where you can elevate yourself and feel like you're part of something but they shouldn't exist oh no anything everything about it was like we're here to like be a brotherhood of men that respects women and yeah and helps with homework like this is yeah not none of that is true. Did you, were you guys on the other side too? Did you guys have to be? Not really. I was really fun.

Yeah, I was a cool guy. I would make them do weird, I would be like, you know, I made my interviews just really like fun and weird. So people enjoyed mine as opposed to like the guys. Like being a hard ass. Yeah, the guys who would like torture kids, you know. They were real. But those are the guys working at Staples now yeah i feel bad we're picking on staples yes i am anybody that works there some good hombres i used to work at chick-fil-a i can't

judge it yeah you worked at chick-fil-a yeah for a long time a summer how's that uh well they put me on the sweeping duty in the parking lot i got fired fired, but tough. Were you good at other jobs before comedy? No, dude, no. Well, I was good in sales, because I could just talk. Oh, that makes sense. What were you selling? Like sports equipment.

Oh, that's fun. Yeah, but I was just cool. I was just, they were, I go, hey, dude, I'm gonna send you this invoice for the 20 grand, like, ah. I was just fond of being around. That's cool. I didn't know, I knew nothing about it.

I knew, yeah. And I didn't send any I knew nothing about it. I knew, yeah. And I didn't send any of the invoices because I always forgot. And you lived in LA before moving back to Nashville, right? How's that been on your dome? Awesome. This place, even this neighborhood is just so stressful to drive here. The lanes are very narrow. The infrastructure is not it's just quite right what

they say about like you know if you if you're living at like you're living at like a 9.9 any like anything will put you underwater like any like there's the lines too long you get honked at you like if you're living right here this which is i feel like la a lot of people right like just but in nashville it's like down here and like if you get like a you know somebody turns down my tv show or i got a bad analytics on a video or somebody doesn't invite me to a party that i feel like i should be it's like it's fine right that's what an anti-depressant I'm not on antidepressants anymore, but I was for like a year and a half. That just like, it like,

the bad stuff doesn't make you want to go relapse. You're just trying to turn the volume down a little bit. Yeah. Like those things are like, it's just so like, in this city. It's an anxious place. Yeah.

That's a good way to describe it. You just said it better than I could. In this part of town. Come by the, come, come to me in the Valley guys. Oh yeah. I've heard that is chill. Yeah. The girl I'm dating lives in burbank and it's very i love going to her

place like i prefer going over there because i feel like yeah it's a neighborhood street families are walking down yeah that's a good way that's good it's fair like this five mile radius i'm just like i'm in the belly of the beast yeah you might be no i feel that i feel i run away to orange county a lot though and that's a nice decompression to get back with the republicans sometimes they know how to live they know how to live those people first they're like take the cat yeah yeah it's like i'm like what do you guys think about ukraine they're like i don't give a fuck dude let me tell you about this deck i'm building i'm like you know what not a bad way to spend five minutes talking about that that's awesome it's nice um but dude uh so you got a special coming out right or is it already

actually just came out last week how's it going killer it's unbelievable dude that's awesome which is yeah it's uh i put it out on on youtube i mean that's how yeah i think i might be the future dude i think we're here yeah because you can't i mean you ever have you ever debuted something or premiered something on youtube no where you watch you probably just like it's coming out at noon and it's everybody's going to watch it with you oh no it was yeah i was in that it was wild that's the one thing about youtube that i never experienced before is unbelievable. And people can share it. If you don't have Netflix or you don't have Hulu,

have you ever bought a platform for a show? I think the only one I did was I got Apple TV so I could watch the morning show. Really? And that's me being straight up. That's all you're talking about. You love to see people get crushed. Yeah. I got Apple TV for uh the ted lasso yeah yeah there it is i got i got oh i got disney plus for uh the imagineering story the documentary on how they you bought yeah yeah you still have it

hell yeah dude i've watched imagining story like six times but i think we undercut your point which is that no people don't do that. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, totally. It took me a couple of seconds to catch up to where you're going. Oh, my bad. Well, it just has to be extraordinary. And you will do it.

It just has to be like I got Amazon or what did I buy? Yellowstone. Good show. Extraordinary. Yeah. It's something if you go hey this is unbelievable it's on you go yeah versus here's the link it's right here and everybody can stream put it on their tvs everybody that's everybody's tv it seems to have more more longevity too because it you

know it doesn't get lost in the shuffle it just keeps building and building and you own it and you can see how it's doing yeah and if you have a big enough platform and it's a compelling piece of content you'll you'll you'll profit from it yeah yeah that's awesome man yeah well if somebody got this far in this podcast and they're like i want to i want another hour of john christ respect yeah um well i appreciate you coming on and being so candid and open man because uh yeah i kind of didn't know what to expect and i really appreciate you uh um yeah just being so see a guy from recovery in public oh dude a lot yes so do i dude i made the i made the biggest gaffe like you try in this podcast you kind of threw it out you're like you want to or i said rehab actually i think

you brought it i was gonna wait for your cue on it i didn't i didn't talk about that before or no i told chad i was like hey i've known this guy from recovery i was like i'm dying but i said i'm not gonna bring it up unless he brings it up and then uh you did and i really admire you for what if i said you go yeah you and me but i go what and i just left you out no well i've been stuff like that's happened on the podcast so i'm really i'm yeah i've made that mistake before i'm like oh this dude was not coming here for that um so that's just getting edited oh but but to your point about running i've seen people i was at the movie theater one time and i'm super friendly yeah

so i see this guy walking in with a gal he's's on a date. And I just, I go, and I didn't know where I knew him from. I go, Hey buddy. I'm like, Hey, I know you. And he goes, he's got this like quizzical kind of stressed out look. And I go, he goes, Oh yeah, maybe I know you from like an intramural, whatever. I go, nah, that's not it. And then he's like, and then he's like, Oh, you might know me from like, you know, I did an improv at this place.

And I go, no, that's not it. And then I must've made him sit there for what felt like an eternity. Did he know from the jump? He knew right away. And then he walks away and he's like with a gal, looked like a second or third date. He walks away and I turn my butt and I go, oh dude, I just fucked up. I go, I know that guy from sex addicts, dude.

I was like, he was, that was like worst case scenario. With a girl. With a girl on a date, just chilling at the theater. Tough. And I put him under the microscope. But now he's probably, he's probably married to her by now. I hope so. Hey, those are the best stories you hear in there.

Tough. Those are great stories when you hear about guys getting to the other side of it and, you know, being healthy. So, but yeah, dude, but thank you for being so uh open and honest about everything it was a it was really nice talking to you guys let's do it on the show soon yeah let's do it all three did that show yeah we should do that and with king batch dude he was big that was crazy seeing him there yeah it was a powerful green room yeah oh yeah that's a lot of hitters a lot of hitters a lot of hitters from the internet. Like, if any, like, but I... Internet hitters, for sure.

I consider myself, as I've been doing stand-up long before my videos were viral. Same. Same for us. Yeah. So, like, but the guys, like, you know, like, Harlan Williams or, like, one of the, like, comic comics would see that green room and the sold-out, they'd go, I'm out of here. They'd be like, this is what's wrong with the business yes 100 they were like these like yeah i i sometimes wonder that because like

i didn't buy me to point out harlow i'm just thinking about no he's like our favorite i love him yeah but he's at he's at the ice house a bunch i think yeah he's so funny so a guy that's like not on social media but just a crusher of a pure stand up. Yeah. I sometimes wonder that. And can't sell any tickets. I don't know about him, but a guy that like. That's always a shame.

And yeah. And just crush it like standing ovation every time. Yeah. And then we come in. Yeah. And there's a lot. And they go. But Trevor was a comic before.

He was with them in open mics. He did. Yeah. Yeah. He cried. yeah yeah Dow Comedy Studio let's go well I know that because I know how hard he works yeah and he was always cool and always diligent and always funny and no I have a sometimes I get a bit envious but for the most part I'm just like this dude is like he deserves everything it's different he is different and he's super fucking nice he's the fucking kindest guy i send i mean i send that guy's videos that everybody yeah he's he's brilliant they're like they're awesome dude every all my like friends that i grew up with and stuff

he's always in the circulation yeah yeah some of those i mean some of those i made his video this week i sent it to i sent it to four people but you know i don't do you watch much comedy stand up like stand up or like sketch i follow a couple i follow five maybe yeah i don't pay attention you don't know what i think it might be hurting my comedy honestly at this point like i should be a little more in touch with it but i i just uh i don't know i'd rather watch sports or yeah yeah read about something it just feels like a bigger break i guess to watch other people stand up or other people's sketches yeah it's hard for me to watch that stuff yeah but but but it's more of like i have like a uh like a worker respect for them

where i'm like i see what they're doing and i'm like that's great and i appreciate it yeah but i'm not like uh but then you're watching sports center and you feel like you're like oh another one another one and then you haven't put out one in two weeks yeah different beast yeah all right thanks man we wrap it up thanks for coming in all right you guys are the best man it's a's a pleasure. You're the best, man. That was awesome. Yeah, thanks. Wait, he had hanging. He had headphones on. Which I never normally wear. That's the opposite.

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