Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 279 - The BEST BBQ is in St. Louis

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

Coming to you live from the STL. The bros dive deep into the BBQ, coming off a fresh meal of brisket and ribs. Chad and JT take some dank calls from listeners and a hostile stoker calls in upset about... The Athlete Draft. Call us today with your questions or drop a confession about a wild night with the bros! (323-418-2019) Check us out on tour! Go to www.chadandjt.com for tickets! Check out the reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Episode Sponsored by: Athletic Greens: Visit www.ATHLETICGREENS.com/GODEEP for a FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why do all guys like Nicolas Cage and Kevin Costner? Because he bones, they bone their daughters. Hold up, wait a minute, something ain't right. They don't bone their daughters, they bone the audience's daughters. Are you crying? audience's daughters are you crying hey i mean you guys you guys know what i'm talking about right what's up stokers we have an epic epic podcast for you so excited for you to listen stay tuned for all that stoke goodness before we begin i want to let you know that we are on tour right
Starting point is 00:00:43 now that's we're in st louis but we are headed to Tacoma next, and then we're going to Palm Beach and Miami, and then Portland, I believe, Sacramento, San Francisco. Get your tickets now at chatandjt.com. The show is super fun, and we all have a good time. We're also brought to you by Legends Athletic Greens. Guys, I love Athletic Greens. I drink Athletic Greens every morning. It just gives me all my daily nutrition in one go. It's delicious and it makes me feel fantastic. If you're looking for an easier way to take supplements, Athletic Greens has given you a free one-year supply of vitamin D
Starting point is 00:01:19 and five free travel packs with your first purchase. Go to athleticgreens.com slash go deep. That's athleticgreens.com slash go deep. Check athleticgreens.com slash go deep check it out all right let's start the show all right slap the barbecue sauce on the ribs and let's get naked in public. What's up, Stokers of Stoke Nation? This is Chad Kroger coming in with the Going Deep with Chad JT podcast. I'm here with my compadre, John Thomas. What up?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Boom clap, Stokers. And we are here live at Half Coast Studios in St. Louis. I want to give a shout out to our dogs in there. What up, bros? Yeah, Justin and Alex. in St. Louis. I want to give a shout out to our dogs in there. What up, bros? Yeah, Justin and Alex. Got it. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Thank you guys for hosting us. Because we're on the road. We were in Miami before this. Now we're in St. Louis doing a couple nights of stand-up. We're supposed to do five shows. We had to pare it down to three because ticket sales were not booming. But I got a lot of DMs from people in St. Louis and they were excited to see us. shows we had to pare it down to three because ticket sales were not booming but i thought it like i got a lot of dms from people in st louis and they were excited to see us but i got more dms
Starting point is 00:02:30 saying are you pumped for mardi gras i did too i i was like i was like why are you talking about mardi gras we're not in new orleans i didn't understand yeah i was like uh i guess i'm pumped for it i was like are you pumped to travel to new orleans and then we found out st louis has a huge party every year mardi gras biggest party of the year and people are amped on it dude like people people like come out and i'm it's today it's it's actually going on right now right so justin alex thank you for doing this and for missing out on that major sloshing down in Soulard. Soulard is the – Soulard. That's the neck of the woods where they really get down.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And, you know, you do the beads and you do the beer and you hopefully see some boobs, I'm sure. That's fantastic. I'm sure a lot of people are excited for that. And then I might cruise, but I need to go to the gym. I feel like shit. Dude, I was – I mean, a bunch of guys at the show were talking about it. And it was bringing back a lot of memories for me of, man, those, I mean, my favorite, if I'm going to drink, day drinking is the best.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And not only that, day drinking starting in the morning. You're a morning guy. Dude, if you start drinking at 6 a.m., no better feeling than being hammered and doing keg stands at 7 a.m no better feeling than being hammered and doing keg stands at 7 a.m okay i remember i was in college we had the beta breakers where in san francisco you dress up and you know wear like a diaper and a sailor's hat and you walk from uh the you know from the bay all the way to golden gate park it's like it's supposed to be like a race like a marathon but it's just a bunch of drunk people walking across the city it's but it's just a bunch of drunk
Starting point is 00:04:05 people walking across the city. It's awesome. It's important. And I was at Santa Clara. So you start at like 5.30 in the morning. And I'm talking, kids don't do this, but I was talking to Molly at like 5.30 in the morning, you hop on a train all the way down the bay. Best mornings of my life. It's different now, dude. Yeah. You you got a dog you can't do that anymore dude your puppy's got a uti you're on molly yeah yeah i saw you get nostalgic about it when we were doing a meet and greet after this show last night and you went through like that rigmarole and i was like you kind of like you were talking to them but you're also just like talking to your old self in that moment yeah what up dude i mean that you know that i do
Starting point is 00:04:46 like to blow it out every you know four or five months so i know yeah maybe maybe next time it's gonna be an early morning sesh i would i want to check it out i want to see what what this mardi gras is all about yeah and i i haven't gotten a feel for st. Louis yet. Like, I don't know how to describe it in a couple words. It seems to be very multicultural. The food's good. We got barbecue yesterday. We went to Sugar Fire. And for me, it was the best barbecue I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:05:16 The ribs were unbelievable. The sauce is so good. All the people who worked in there were kind of like flinty. Like, I'd be like, hey, can I get the ribs? They're like, yeah, you got a rack coming right up. And then they're like, do you want anything else? I was like, I'll get a cheese. He's like, do you like cheese?
Starting point is 00:05:30 I was like, uh-huh. He's like, what kind of cheese do you like? I was like, I got scared. I was like, I don't know what cheese do you like? He's like, we got Swiss, we got American, we got cheddar, we got provolone, we got Jack. And I was like, what do you like? He's like, I'm a Swiss guy. I was like, I'll do Swiss.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And then they just like flew me through it. And then I was eating it. I was like, dude, this is the fucking best rib I've ever had. Cause it comes out dry, but then you put the sauce on it and the meat was falling off perfectly. And it just looks so beautiful. You got the brisket and you got some fried artichoke. Dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Way more than I anticipated. You got a bundle of that shit. It was so good. Oh, you know, that's so interesting. It's like, why are ribs better in st louis is it the is it the you know is it the cow the cow is more prone to being rib tasty yeah because nebraska is supposed to have the best best the best cows yeah i don't know some people just got to figure out it's like why does new york have the best bagels they say it's because of the water in new
Starting point is 00:06:23 york right like the water they use there is like thicker. So it's better for the bagel. I do know this though. There's like barbecue places in LA that are like supposed to be Southern style and I've never really enjoyed them. I go there for the novelty, but then afterwards I'm like,
Starting point is 00:06:37 I feel like shit. It didn't taste good. Yesterday, I felt like shit, but it tasted very good. Do you think political leanings affect meat? You know, if you're trying to go with like southern style meat but you're in a liberal area does that affect the tenderness does that blow it yeah i never thought about it that way i'm sure there's some study like
Starting point is 00:06:57 based off how people vote on abortion correlating to how good people's ribs are i mean you go to texas the steak is out of this world. See, I didn't think the barbecue was that great in Texas. And I was like, so you guys are against abortion and your barbecue sucks? I'm like, what's the deal? Like at least drill one side of that equation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I mean, this meat is authentically pro-life. But I posted about how it is my favorite barbecue ever and then i got hit with the deluge message has been like poppies is better in st louis or you guys have never been to kansas city and i'm like dude just let me i know i posted it so you're welcoming that response but i was like dude just let me enjoy this moment yeah and let me believe that sugar fire is the best barbecue in the world do you guys all right they're saying pappy's is better too thanks guys um all right i guess i gotta go to pappy's today too and see if their bbq is more tasty yeah that sounds good, dude. Dude, I just had a thought and it ran away.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Where'd you go, buddy? It was something. I saw it go out the door. Yeah, it was gonna be... I think it could have changed the way people think about things. But it's gone. Well, no, let's just settle in the silence
Starting point is 00:08:20 and let it come back. Take a deep breath. I didn't sleep good last night. I had a bunch of nightmares. That sucks. I had a nightmare about like a alien ship like crashed into this warehouse I was kicking it at, like outside of Malibu.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And a girl who looked like Hayley Atwell got out and was like, the aliens are coming. They're going to kill us all. And this potion will save you from what they feed on. And I was like, what do they feed on? And she was like, the aliens are coming, they're gonna kill us all, and this potion will save you from what they feed on. And I was like, what do they feed on? And she was like, jealousy. And I was like, and she was out of the elixir that like neutralized that in you.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Wow, those are your dreams? Sometimes, not normally, but last night that's the one I remember the most. I think Jeff Goldblum was in one of them too. He's, I mean, when it comes to aliens, he's number one. He's cool. Him and Will Smith. Yeah, top dogs.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, Will Smith, for me, loves aliens the most. He understood that alien movies hit hardest at the box office. Smart guy. Totally. Mardi Gras, St. Louis. You came out to Nelly yesterdayis you came out to nelly yesterday i came out to nelly dude i mean we we finished the show with batter up so fire and dude okay so we were in my so we're in st louis right now we were in miami earlier at the boat show yeah we went to a yacht show in miami it was awesome and uh dude i love miami man um but he ran to dave portnoy
Starting point is 00:09:46 which was like just totally random uh but that was cool he's i mean he's hilarious he's just like he was a camera he's yeah he's exactly how he is like off camera as he is on camera he was nice to do the video too i appreciated that he didn't ask any questions he was like yeah if you want to film something film something yeah he seemed totally he's like totally game he's like we're all in the virality business like yeah yeah you get it the video was fun too it's fun being at the boat show going on those mega yachts we had our crew with us chigas and jake big shout out to those guys legends we casted a kid because we're because we're trying to see if being on a boat can cure depression, anxiety, whatever the most prevalent mental issues are of the day.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And so we casted someone off Craigslist, this kid Navi. His name's Hussein, but he goes by Navi. And we were bringing him onto the boats to see if that could pick him up. And he was, yeah, he was great. He was a little absent-minded. He left in the middle of the shoot because he thought his car got towed
Starting point is 00:10:49 from a parking structure. And then we were like, yo, dude, we'll pay for the tow. We got to shoot the vid. Then after the vid, we filmed it. It took us an hour and a half to find his car, but it was still in the lot. Took us an hour and a half in that lot to find the car. I mean, that was probably one of the more
Starting point is 00:11:06 brutal situations i've ever been in because out of everyone in the crew let's say you got you me we had griffin from the boat company and our two camera guys jake and cheeks shout out navi was the least helpful out of all of them. He wasn't doing a great job of communicating. He's still hanging out there. Oh, really? And he didn't have many details on where he was parked. We're like, so where did you leave your car? And he's like, I just saw the number five.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I just saw five. And we're like, okay, that's good intel. There's level five, pink, orange, yellow, and green. That was crazy of the parking structure to have three. I mean, to his credit, it was the most confusing parking structure of all time. Horrific, dude. Why did they do that? It was a crazy parking structure.
Starting point is 00:11:54 That's just like the Century City one where you go in there and you're lost. I'm like, there's no, it doesn't make any sense. It's a maze, dude. But yeah, he was like, I'm parked on five. He was actually parked on seven. Yeah. And he didn't, he was convinced he took the number five elevator structure down. That turned out not to be good.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And then he did that thing where he was like, I think my car got towed. So we asked the people, they were like, do you, because I know I've lost my car in a parking, or I lost my keys one time. Couldn't get my car out of a parking structure it's impossible to tow out of those places because they have the 6-2 overhang and uh i was like dude i don't think you got tow we asked the lady she's like we don't tow he's like she's lying they towed me then after a while we asked another guy he's like we don't tow and then he's like they stole my car and we were all so frustrated we're like dude we don't think anyone stole your car and then you know someone might have besmirched what kind of car he had but we didn't mean to be mean we
Starting point is 00:12:50 were just upset because we had had a long day and we were an hour into helping him find his car yeah and he wasn't proactive in trying to find it he had kind of resigned himself to having lost his car or like someone stole your he's like someone stole my car and we're all just like because whenever feels i'm like who the fuck who's gonna steal a honda civic that's when you say you're a kid you're like i can't find my sunglasses someone stole them it's like you might have just misplaced them in a bathroom or something yeah i'd say there's at least 500 cars in there who's gonna go to level seven steal the 2010 honda civic like like who you know i mean he's like well people are smart they can power it up i'm like dude i mean he walked into his
Starting point is 00:13:37 situation he walked into a hornet's nest he had no idea what he was going into but he did not he did make it clear he is he only did it for the money yeah we it took us an hour and a half to find his car we're all like like chicas who's the nicest guy in the world was like snapping at the end plus i made chicas was like dude i can't keep filming i was like you gotta keep filming but it's tiring because he's got it it's like a 20 pound thing and then uh and i was like no dude you just got to keep filming we're still on camera we're still doing this thing and then when we finally found his car after an hour and a half, we're like, dude, we found it. This is your car.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Amazing. And then I just goes, you're still going to pay me, right? And we did. We did. We paid him. Yeah, that was a wild mind melting experience. But amazing being in Miami. What a city.
Starting point is 00:14:24 What a city. The people so vibrant. They a city. What a city. The people so vibrant. They actually think I'm Latino there. You know, I grew up in Orange County. Everyone thought I was Jewish. I'm Colombian. When I'm in Miami, everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:14:33 just goes straight at me in Spanish, but my Spanish is trash. So then I'm just like, no, I am Jewish. And I got some arepas. Dude, the best arepas I've ever had. Venezuelans, I think they do it better than Colombians. Oh really,enezuelans do it too yeah so i brought it up to my mom i was like yo mom i went to a venezuelan place it's the best arepas i ever had and my mom was like yeah i'll be real with you i think venezuelans do arepas better than us what's the difference i don't know really i mean
Starting point is 00:14:59 the cheese seems slightly different but i've i've mostly i, I mean, I've only been to Columbia once when I was like four. So my understanding of like their genuine cuisine is, is a little limited to what I've experienced in America, but I don't know, just the cheese and the way that they did the plantains and the meat was really good. It's just, the whole thing was just perfect, but I need a bigger sample. I got to, but no, you know what? I don't need a bigger sample. gotta but no you know what i don't need a bigger sample doggies at epa's in miami best at epa's in the country sugar fire barbecue best barbecue in the country but on a just a murderer's row of best dude i um a lot of crazy things happening in the country right now there's that i'll get into it that east palestine you know train derailment but i don't know if it's just twitter i don't know if it's just the age we live in where you just
Starting point is 00:15:50 know everything now but and i don't even really follow any i follow probably like 50 people on twitter but my timeline is just like everyone the most popular shit just because it's how that's what the algorithm feeds me or whatever but it's like that whole east palestine thing happened where uh and i think it's i guess it's pronounced palestine not palestine in ohio right um which is it i don't i but is how's the one that's in the middle east pronounced palestine oh okay so they're different in how you say them yeah okay i wasn't sure which one was which. Yeah. Well, I just heard people say East Palestine.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Do you guys have any info on that? Is it East Palestine? You're making like an eek face. Like you don't want to be responsible for this. Yeah. Like on record. This is treacherous territory. See, this is the mistakes we make daily.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. You just get over being smart. You just accept. Dude, to all theinians i'm sorry anyways so there's that whole train development the whole ecological disaster and then but then you just see all these tweets are like all these trains are derailing all these like chemical warehouses these like plastic warehouses are erupting in flames and people are like this is not coincidence and i'm and i it just it's too
Starting point is 00:17:06 much for my dome yeah it's i mean because we got connect the dots brains so people i think uh just from their their their bedrooms on their computers start stringing stuff together and some of it is probably true someone's probably, but the amount of people who are theorizing, it's just impossible to sift through. Yeah, I guess I would just like to see how many train derailments there are a day, how many chemical plant fires there are. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Is it just because that's highlighted right now? So all of them are being highlighted right now or is there an abnormal number happening at the same time? I'll look it highlighted right now. So all of them are being highlighted right now. Or is there an abnormal number happening at the same time? I'll look it up right now. Are train derailments common? About 1,000 derailments occur each year, according to the Federal Railroad Administration, the FRA. That actually doesn't seem like that many.
Starting point is 00:18:03 The number of trains coming off the rails has been on the decline coinciding with the reduction in miles covered by the industry there are 1 000 such instances in 2022 out of roughly 535 million miles traveled but more than six have crashed this month so i'm switching articles so we might get dude i don't know man i mean look this is very tangential and not as important but i've been reading articles for two years now saying penis size is going down yeah huberman drops a bomb the other day says penis size is up 25 percent over like succeeding generations who Who am I to believe? I mean, I see dicks.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They look about the same that they've always looked. I don't even know if I'd be able to notice a 25% increase, although I do, you know, notice big dicks and small. But yeah, I don't know. There's just, it's the same thing you're talking about. There's just so much information, I'm sure. Well, how many, how do they measure these dicksicks mine never got measured except for a bouncer one time but i don't know if that was put on record unless he works for the city yeah i don't i don't think i mean we we have it on camera so we know
Starting point is 00:19:15 but it's not in any official database yeah was mine included in there also is it erect um yeah because dicks could be smaller flasks and then get bigger bonered uh stokers let us know if government officials have measured your dicks um because i don't know anyone who's had theirs measured no so even though so six sounds like a lot of derailments especially if it's the first i'm hearing about it but with that figure averaging out to about 142 derailments a month 2023 is so far on track to continue the declining trend in yearly incidents so no it's still going down interesting i mean life is good i mean it's a no no that's i don't know no i agree that's peter singer said that in his nope not peter singer dude my brain is so fried today um I don't know. No, I agree. That's the thing. Peter Singer said that in his... Nope, not Peter Singer.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Dude, my brain is so fried today. Steven Pinker. Close. He did a book. It was years ago, meaning five to 10, where he said this is the least violent time in human history. This is the most prosperous time in human history. Life is as good as it's ever been but uh it doesn't feel that way well i think there's so much info coming as every day and i also think i mean i i also think uh yeah i think everything's trending upwards and i think at every point in time everyone's kind of been like we're fucked yeah always well
Starting point is 00:20:49 we are all we're all gonna die yeah so most of us um yeah dude except for ray kerswell that guy's got it yeah he's got a good toupee too i think he has a hairpiece on really it looks like it unless he just dyes it good for him i mean look it looks better but you just got to be nervous He's got a good toupee too. I think he has a hairpiece on. Really? It looks like it. Unless he just dyes it. Good for him. I mean, look, it looks better, but you just got to be nervous anytime someone's going to give you a noogie. Yeah. Don't go to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:21:12 No. Too windy. We saw it with Spade. Dude, how was your Valentine's Day? It was good, man. We celebrated on the Super Bowl because she was working. Dude, I was sick. I was sick for like a week.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I'm getting sick too. Oh, you got the pup and then travel. It's a brutal combo. Yeah, but it was like a weird thing. It was like a stomach thing. But it was like very kind of like, it was almost like I had like a bacteria. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:41 It's just sort of like you have like a bacterial infection. But it was for like a week. And I'm like, what the hell's going on? Then it just goes away. I get stomach viruses once every 18 months. They're brutal. I'm susceptible to them. But I didn't throw up.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I just felt shitty. Yeah, I don't, I don't boke. I just, I'm either like incontinence or the opposite. And then, yeah, those suck. Did you have like knots in your stomach and stuff like was it painful i just couldn't eat yeah that's rough i just had no appetite so i just didn't eat um which sucked on the super bowl because i i usually like a you know five layer dip but you guys had a nice time together you had a nice time we got some good presents how about you
Starting point is 00:22:22 dude it was fun i mean me and her were both really busy that day so we couldn't do anything big time i i gave her a little gift she wanted me to put up a coat rack so i i put that into the wall there's children in the hallway that's your future dude they sound adorable every time i see kids now i want to go play with them i'm an expectant father so uh i feel like i've been deputized to uh kiss all babies um yeah so she got these coat racks and i leveled them and put them on the wall jake was helping me out i only put i only found the stud for one of them but it's like i had wall anchors so i think it'll be solid even though it's just hanging there in the drywall and i put that up then i put some coats on it and i was watching the end of the tour
Starting point is 00:23:05 that uh david foster wallace movie which is not great but i like what it's about it's about petty resentment and two guys intellectually jousting so it was good background noise and then and then me and the lady we snuggled which was lovely very connected thanks babe and then uh and then i just chilled and then i got a prank phone call oh you did but i'm gonna talk about it later because i think i think i'm gonna make the prank phone caller my legend of the week oh that's awesome yeah i like getting prank called oh hell yeah it adds spice to your day dude yeah and then you're kind of like who is it yeah who's calling me who wants to fuck with me yeah you feel kind of special you're like oh of all the people they could have fucked with they fucked with me dude yeah that's nice nice um but yeah valentine's day good day i i think i'm pretty big i care about
Starting point is 00:23:56 valentine's day more than my girlfriend does and you know what i think i think guys get short shrift like do guys get gifts on valentine's day i did good i think that should be it should go both ways yeah like guys have gotten more sensitive we're more in tune with this stuff you know we try to do better um with being compassionate and with being communicative and and and uh displaying our affection and commitment, that's got to come back, baby. Like I think the fellas should be getting flowers on Valentine's Day too.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Like when do guys get flowers? Do you get flowers? No. Would you like flowers? Yeah. Would you like flowers? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Some peonies when I come home? Thank you. Yeah. I'm more of a sunflower. I'm a sunflower guy. That makes sense. Of course, the sun. Yeah, if I got a sunflower coming home, I think I'd be like, oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I think I have gotten flowers actually once in the past year. Look at your smile. Dude, she did give me flowers. Look at how happy you look. Yeah. It's great. Flowers are nice. It was nice, but another part of me is like,
Starting point is 00:25:09 don't look like a bitch. I mean, I get that, cause they're flowers, but we got to reset. That Ohio thing is actually super fucked with the train. Oh, right. Do you have information? Like, you know what, I've just watched enough videos where it's like it's like killing the wildlife yeah the water like all the fish are dying and it's like in
Starting point is 00:25:30 the water and the government said the water is okay to drink but there's no water but then there's other people taking videos that like the water is not okay dude yeah they're throwing stuff like they're throwing stuff like in literally like into the water and you see like the chemicals in the water because that like literally goes into the water source yeah dude that are we still recording uh yeah hold on i was just resetting this guy no let's go yeah let's keep let's put this in yeah i mean dude that that's the thing is like nowadays nowadays our bodies are there's so many foreign chemicals entering our bodies whether it be through shit like that like ecological disasters you know like train
Starting point is 00:26:15 derailments and then all these chemicals get into the water supply and stuff just even like water bottle plastics um fragrances everything like our and then on top of that there's a like electromagnetic magnetic frequencies like the cell phones and stuff like like all that electricity going through the air that like affects our bodies the amount of stressors that we're putting on our bodies is crazy and then the food too just everything there's so much artificial shit you gotta have a farm that's the thing but then you're still gonna get your water and soil i don't know how you isolate it from all those factors yeah but thank you for that additional info on the uh east palestine disaster yeah that's that's crazy because i did see that the government
Starting point is 00:27:04 was like hey the water is good to drink. And I was like, ain't nobody buying that, brother. Yeah. But back to the flowers. So my girlfriend got me flowers and I was super appreciative. You know, it made me tear up. But I also had to do, you know, some cleaning jerks. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I was going to recommend that. Yeah. Just do some weightlifting. Yeah, I think flowers are just beautiful. And it's fun to watch them grow. Dude, sometimes I'll get flowers and I get them for my girlfriend, but I'm also just getting them because it's nice to have them in the house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Like you walk out, she's got a vase right in front of the sink and a nice like bay window there. And I'm like, I'll just look out and be like, do an addition. I'm like, it's nice. Look at these tulips going for it, dude. Yeah. Yeah. like do an addition i'm like it's nice look at these tulips going for it dude yeah um yeah i just think i just think they're nice i think flowers are just nice they're just pretty and
Starting point is 00:27:54 they they're short i like that they have this ephemeral lifespan that's just totally beautiful throughout it's a i don't know it's a treat flowers are nice dude and then good news on the romance front my beef last week the breakup between mgk and megan fox i was devastated i like it when weirdos go for it when they're embarrassing to the world but they're in it together heard this week they're trying to make it work wow they were photographed coming out of couples counseling dude let me ask you a big cue hit me because we were in that we were at an mgk concert i did notice his guitarist smoke show lady yes smoke and then a lot of the a lot of the people a lot of fans speculate he was hooking up with her. I mean, there's so much of that now with the speculation because we're photographing everything.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So like Oscar Isaac gives like a look to his co-star and everyone's like, they're banging, they're banging. I'm like, dude, hot people just look at each other. Like what are they going to do? It's like hardwired into our biologies. You're just like, oh, hey, smoke show. Maybe I'll look at them for a second longer than I would
Starting point is 00:29:07 anyone else I mean do I think that they've been completely monogamous to each other throughout their relationship I would bet probably not I mean they're stars and they're both beautiful and in their own way and
Starting point is 00:29:23 like I don't know if Machine Gun Kelly is beautiful, but he's got something, right? Yeah. And he can obviously probably find a partner relatively easy. But I think if I'm betting, I would imagine that they just have rules around who they can hook up with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And I feel like if Megan Fox told Machine Gun Kelly, hey, you can sleep with like these 10 people, but don't sleep with your guitarist. I think he would have listened but maybe i'm naive i think that he would be ethically non-monogamous for some reason i feel like if megan fox i just feel like she's a monogamous person that'd be that's even cooler if they're saying no to all that i think that's really inspiring i just get that vibe good no i don't think mgk was cheating on her i think they're i think they they were probably flirting
Starting point is 00:30:07 and it got them both a little upset yeah but i don't think there was a full-on cheat i'm changing my bet that i just made two minutes ago strider told me um the name they use when they check into his hotel are we allowed to say yeah okay savage that's cool when i say cool i mean actually not but i'm rooting for them i guess you like they went to megan fox went up to strider what's uh what's the name under savage hilarious um but yeah i'm glad those those two crazy kids are trying to make it happen uh dude should we answer some cues? Hell yeah. Let's dive in.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Let's get into it. Stokers, you can get on the hotline. Here's the first one. Hold on. Yo, this is... Yo, what up? Yo, this is your boy. You know, got a question for you saucy boys. You know, I've been kind of on the addies since I was like just able to walk.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I was a victim of the amphetamine push of the 90s. And I don't know if any of you boys or any of your boys have ever, you know, had that addy problem that they've been trying to kick. you know, had that Addy problem that they've been trying to kick. But since it's long-term, you know, it's not very dank to get off it, you know, for the body and whatnot. You know, appreciate you boys. And, you know, keep it tight.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah, we both had issues with Adderall. For me, it was easy because, well, when I had a prescription, it was not easy because I was on those a lot. And then I really loved the feeling they'd give me, so I would just, I would go overboard. And I would get, because I love to get fired up. I would take a lot. And I'd listen to Rage Against the Machine. And I'm sure you've done the same, brother.
Starting point is 00:32:40 But what I did right when I graduated college, stopped my prescription. Because you know what, it made me, um, gave me tons of anxiety. I didn't eat and it totally, I just zapped me of my personality. So I just ditched them entirely. And I think it was probably like naive enough to not even think about withdrawal or anything. I think a lot of times, I know withdrawal is a physical thing, but I think a lot of times too, it can be mostly mental to where if you're thinking about how withdrawing from Adderall, for example, is going to affect you, you're just dreading it, it's going to make it that much worse. So, I just stopped the prescription and just went cold turkey
Starting point is 00:33:22 and I was lucky enough to be able to do that and not be tempted. So that's what I did. Yeah, I struggle with Adderall in my late 20s. I love doing it. I got a prescription for it. And I'm like a borderline ADD case. Like they diagnosed me in high school, but they were kind of uncertain. They based most of it off not any kind of testing but more just like observing me they were like you're
Starting point is 00:33:48 bouncing off the fucking walls you got add um and i was afraid to take it then but then as i got into my mid-20s it helped me with my job i was uh doing locations on tv shows and it was high stress and i wasn't naturally suited for it so i took the drug to as like a performance enhancer basically. And it helped. I was better at my job. I was able to kick down doors and kind of take abuse and, and, and communicate very directly and effectively and,
Starting point is 00:34:16 and forcefully. And, and but it was also kicking up other stuff for me. Like it really boosted my, my sex issues specifically like watching porn and masturbating. And then at first I didn't have much of a crash and it was helping me so much from my job. I just started using it for everything for standup. I felt like 10 feet tall and bulletproof doing standup on it. Like if a joke didn't hit, I didn't feel any kind of self-doubt
Starting point is 00:34:40 afterwards. I would just plow into the next one. And it helped me when I'd go out, like hit on girls because same thing. But then Paul Schrader has this great line about cocaine where he says, at first you're having fun with cocaine and then cocaine's having fun with you. And that switched for me too. I started paying too big of a price. The next day was, I'd be a husk of a human. I felt sad and just had this persistent kind of physical emptiness that I started coping with through the porn and the masturbation and doing those two things together often. And then I was doing a lot of Adderall, like a hundred plus milligrams in a day, not every day, but a couple of times a week. And I just broke my brain. Like I was, I started seeing things. I, um, I was really irritable and, uh, on edge. And then I was, and I was totally relying on the drug for
Starting point is 00:35:35 anything that was challenging. So my, I think my self-esteem was plummeting and, and I just, uh, yeah, I stopped doing it. And my life got exponentially better. Now, it's not, you know, some people might actually need it. But I do think it's pretty gnarly on the body and the brain. And if you feel like you want to try something else, I think, you know, with doctor supervision, we're just two dudes who've had some experiences. I would talk to a doctor and see if there's a, another path for you. Cause it's, it's, and look, there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:11 successful people who do it, but it, it beat me up a lot. So I'm, I'm biased. I, I, I think it can, my life is better without, I haven't done in like five years and i'm a much happier put together person because of it but um yeah if i can propose an alternative like i'm not a doctor but my dad's one um i've been microdosing mushrooms since november honestly same effect as adderall i I have tons of focus. It's natural. If I'm anxious or something, it can heighten the anxiety, but it's also sort of like that shroom thing where you learn to combat it. And it also can heighten your creativity and boost your mood. So, you know, if you need that focus, I'm not saying to do mushrooms, but I am saying to do mushrooms, microdose. Yeah, I think there's a lot of alternatives out there for you, brother.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And yeah, I just know some people, I have a friend right now who's getting off Adderall and she was doing a ton of it. And the same thing, what she's going through happened to me too. It took a couple months for my brain to get right. Like you really do jack around your circuitry if you're doing a lot of that stuff too.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And it can be kind of a painful road, but you just kind of ride it out, the ups and downs of it. But my brain I think is essentially back to normal whatever normal is for me which is not you know still free but uh yeah it's just um because you sound you sound like you want to try something else and and maybe have your down time not feel down and just feel more norm so yeah i say go for it brother good luck to you out there um all right here we go here we go here we go yo what up chad jc this is Sam from Illinois. You know, going back to the best athletes, like, of all time draft, I got to say, the lack of, like, wrestling or, like,
Starting point is 00:38:34 basically any sport outside of baseball and fucking football is, it's just fucking ridiculous. Like, I mean, what are we doing? Are we just saying, like saying like oh this is my favorite football player because i'm from this side of the country like there's other sports dude but come back to it i'm just pissed off that no one said kale sanderson like probably the best wrestler of all of the united states like 159 in. Didn't lose a single match. Three Olympic gold medals.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Five total medals. One silver. Two, I'm sorry, six. So that would be three gold, one silver, two bronze. Also has nine collegiate team championships at Penn State University. Not a huge fan of the Lions but whatever big deal here's the thing K.L. Sanderson whooped the shit out of literally any of the
Starting point is 00:39:30 guys you picked all day every day fuck you wow dude I love the passion thank you for coming in so hot that just fired me up and I would just like to say graciously,
Starting point is 00:39:45 fuck you in return. Nice energy. Yeah. And I hear your point, brother. But to my defense, I have no fucking idea who Kale Salad Sanderson is. And I've never watched wrestling in my life. So why don't you take some oil
Starting point is 00:40:03 and put it on that attitude and smooth it out? You've never watched wrestling in my life. So why don't you take some oil and put it on that attitude and smooth it out? You've never watched wrestling? That's crazy. I mean, everybody watches collegiate wrestling. It's such a popular televised event. Dude, you're right. I mean, check the top 100 ratings. We're all obsessed with wrestling.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Dude, I love combat sports. I know who Kale Sanderson is. I know not much about wrestling, but I know Dan Gable and the Schultz brothers and Jordan Burroughs, and I follow it. But here's the thing. The reason we picked football and basketball players is because those are the most popular sports. So the competition pool is deeper.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And unfortunately, the stakes are just a little bit higher because more people are paying attention. Now, do I think Kale Sanderson is an incredible athlete and worthy of adulation? Of course I do. But do I think he's the same caliber of athlete as a premier football player? Like some of the guys we picked like Adrian Peterson or Jerry Rice? No, I'm sorry. I don't. Like I think the best athletes go into those sports because there's more money in it too. And there's just more of it. So they have more access to it. I think if some of those football players were raised their whole lives to do wrestling or to participate in mixed martial arts or boxing, I think they would do well.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And I have small evidence for that. We had a guy in high school, he never wrestled. He was a dominant football player. His senior year, he went into wrestling, he trained for a couple months. He was very good at it. Yeah, and I love combat sports, but people were like, why don't you pick an MMA fighter? And I was like, dude, it's a relatively new sport. The UFC started in the mid nineties. And I think John Jones very well could have been on any list.
Starting point is 00:41:38 George St. Pierre could have been on a list. Khabib Nurgur, I'm sorry, Khabib. I'm too fired up. I can't name a name like that right now. Fedor. I love Fedor. Anderson Silva. All those guys.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But I don't know. It's the top four. People are going to get excluded. And, dude, a lot of people made the point, like, what about Lewis Hamilton? What about a Tour de France guy? Look, Lewis Hamilton I think is amazing. Do I think he can match up athletic? I mean, people were making the point about Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:42:11 They're like, you know, I think athleticism. Lewis Hamilton, he's a great driver, but athletic, you know, I think he's probably got a great mind. He's got good hand-eye coordination. But could he hold a candle to Usain Bolt, to Michael Phelps, to Jerry Reisdell? I don't think so. No, dude, he races a car. He's incredible at it too.
Starting point is 00:42:33 His hand-eye coordination is probably better than all those guys. I mean, however you measure that. I mean, boxers have great hand-eye coordination. Baseball players have great hand-eye coordination. Receivers have great hand-eye coordination. But yeah, dude, people are going to get excluded. And I probably made a mistake picking Brady number one because he runs like a 5'2", 4040 and he can't like Tomahawk. But the guy won seven Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah. Like he's playing in what I perceive to be the first or second, you know, most high level league for athletics in America. And then, you know, some guys came at us and were like, how come you didn't pick this guy who won eight dart championships? Yeah. Someone threw a darter at us. A dartiste. I mean, Tour de France, they're throwing butt darts at us. Okay. Come on, man. We're in Southern California. You know how we feel about cyclists. Yeah. I also don't appreciate that, that we were being like regionally biased. My brother picked Adrian Peterson who played football at Oklahoma and then for the Vikings for most of his career.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Yeah. My brother's from Orange County, dude. Yeah. We didn't pick Deshaun Foster. Yeah, Vikings are from Europe. We didn't pick Maurice Johnson. Exactly. Yeah, dude, look, man.
Starting point is 00:43:42 You think we're not pissed at ourselves with the sports trap? We lost to Chad, man. The guy doesn't even watch sports. He thought the San Francisco Giants were in the Super Bowl, dude. That's fucking right, dude. Yeah, I overthought it a bit, man. Dude, when they won the Super Bowl, I lit a couch on fire. Gabe Stevenson? Gable Stevenson? What's that guy's name? I think there's a heavyweight who I want to see in the UFC who's a monster. But yeah, Gabe Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:44:08 He looks like a tank. But yeah, dude, I'm sorry. I just think run, jump, and fast twitch strength-wise, football does have a lot of the best athletes. I wish it weren't so. I'd love to see Micah Parsons train his whole life to do. And to that point, I've seen really great athletes in combat sports who weren't the best fighters because there is an intangible quality to fighting
Starting point is 00:44:35 where you just don't know how someone's actually going to react when they're in the cage under pressure, getting hit in the face. There's other things that go into it beyond just your pure athletic metrics but um yeah just uh i i regret not having a ufc fighter but i like i i don't know who would who do i put him up in front of maybe carl lewis but lano messi tom brady and barry bonds like you know those guys are good they're good at their sports. You can't be that mad at those three picks.
Starting point is 00:45:08 K.L. Sanderson. He was a beast. I think he went to Iowa. Let me check. Don't get this wrong, Parr. I mean, yeah, to be fair, wrestling is probably one of the oldest sports. But also, to be unfair, the Schmoll wrestles. And, dude, Iowa State.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, the Schmole wrestles. But dude, I love that call. The passion was good. The passion was really good. The passion was good. Guys, if you're gonna call in, heighten that passion. That really fired me up. Great call.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Dude, thank you for calling in. I should have put Gordon Ryan in there. Best jiu-jitsu guy of all time. Who has himself said he's not that great of an athlete, but that he just has great technique and isometric strength. So what do you want me to do, dude? Dude, you want to hear a bend? Yeah. Tom Cruise. People were to hear a bend? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Tom Cruise. People were throwing in some names. Yeah. Aaron was getting kind of roasted for Jackie Chan. I heard Steve Irwin was a great athlete. Maybe throw him in there. Jackie Chan, what the fuck? It's just a, you know what I like though?
Starting point is 00:46:21 It brings out passion. You're a wrestler. You could come over here and double leg both of us and flatten us to the ground like a pancake. So I respect that, sir. Guys, I'm interrupting this podcast letting you know once again that we are on tour. Check out our show.
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Starting point is 00:48:43 And putting a risk between her and me and me and her family. And I just don't know how to break this need to let him know that she's taken care of. And that I don't even know how to put this into words. That she gets boned good. Man, I need help, guys. Thank you for your vulnerability. I mean, look, I get the primal urge to want to say you're handling your business on the sexual front. But for me, it's golden rule, dog.
Starting point is 00:49:27 your business on the sexual front but for me it's golden rule dog and we all have the we all want to scream from the mountaintops when we're getting some and we want everyone to know especially if we're laying it down good especially the father especially but do you want your dad to constantly be telling you how much he fucks your mom. Now, if you're okay with that, the conversation evolves and you're not being a hypocrite. You're living your life egocentronic, but I'm betting you don't like it when your dad throws that at you. So if you wouldn't want your dad to say that to you
Starting point is 00:50:03 or one day if you have a daughter, I don't think you're gonna want her you know 16 year old pimple-faced lacrosse playing boyfriend to uh talk shit to you on that front dude i mean it's like joel edgerton the king he says he only speaks when he truly has to you don't have to speak on this man it's all in your attitude it's all in your presentation it's all when you go to see your girlfriend's dad you know are you wearing a leather jacket are you smoking marble reds or a cuban are you wearing aviators during thanksgiving dinner are you blowing smoke in his face? And if you're, if you're metaphorically butt naked, I think it all comes down to a glint in the eye. There's just a shine that comes through when you're having fun, positive, mutually
Starting point is 00:50:58 orgasming sex. And I, you can't hide it. And the dad will see it and he'll subconsciously appreciate it. But I don't think he wants to hear about it, dude. And I like what you said, man. You don't have to say it. Is it essential? Is it essential to tell the woman you love, father, that you're plowing? And I just don't think any stoic philosopher is going to give you the green light on that. I mean, why do all guys
Starting point is 00:51:26 like Nicolas Cage and Kevin Costner because they bone their daughters. They don't bone their daughters. They bone the audience's daughters. Are you crying? Hey. I mean, you guys know what I'm talking about, right?
Starting point is 00:51:55 They're nodding. Yeah. Check that for data. What's this saying? But, dude, again, I love your passion, man. Thank you for coming to us with this. I mean. Take that for data.
Starting point is 00:52:14 That's what David Fitzdale said. Take that for data. Let's keep these coming. We got some good cues. What up, Stokers? This is Justin. I'm calling from New Jersey. And, uh, I just wanted to say that, uh, I'm watching the, um, something's burning video,
Starting point is 00:52:39 uh, with Bert Kreischer and you two guys eating that butter board. Um, much respect to that. I'm not a big fan of dairy, and to see all those delicious ingredients thrown onto a cutting board of butter is pretty intense. So, you know, much respect. It looks like you all enjoyed it. What I'm really calling about in regards to this episode is JT.
Starting point is 00:53:07 As a fellow vaper myself, I too love to blow the vape out of my nostrils. I do think it looks cool. I think I get the crowd fired up when I do that. But my big problem is, is that most times, um, when I vape and exhale out of my nostrils, uh, I start to sneeze violently and then, uh, it just takes the, uh, stoke away from everybody. And I just look like a massive tool. So my question is how did you make it look so effortlessly cool and are there any tricks that I could get from that you know because I love vaping and
Starting point is 00:53:53 I mean I know we're all trying to quit and everything but there's so much better than cigarettes so much more convenient but I want to look cool when I vape and I mean dude you just killed it i hopefully there hopefully that was just the one take i didn't notice any editing uh when i watched that but yeah man much respect dudes love you guys oh thanks man that means a lot dude um bro you know i um i know i look like a tool when i vape and I just don't care. I just need my fix. And, you know, I feel bad, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I told everybody I was going to quit January 1st because I thought they were going to be illegal in California. And they are. But the vape shop still got them. They still sell them. You just got to pay cash. And I even kind of like this new illegal drug dealer component of it. It feels a little more exciting. I go in there,
Starting point is 00:54:45 I'm like, hey, you got the flims? They're like, are you cool? I'm like, I'm cool. And then I get them. I do go out the nostrils a lot. And brother, I'm sneezing all day long. Actually, I've been sneezing so much and I didn't realize that's why I'm sneezing so much. So thank you for putting that together for me. Dude, I just ride it out. I just sneeze. I never even, I guess I'm considered in some ways, but in terms of sneezing, I don't really think about the externalities of it and how I'm impacting the people around me. I just kind of sneeze. And if someone's got an issue, they tell me, and then I stopped going through the nostrils, but I kind of wait for them to stop me first. And I vape everywhere. And I just wait for people to tell me I'm not allowed to vape there.
Starting point is 00:55:24 me first and I vape everywhere. And I just wait for people to tell me I'm not allowed to vape there. I'm kind of a tool. I just, uh, I just like to vape, but dude, thank you for all the kind words. And that butter board was really good. A lot of people had comments about the butter board. Like they thought it was nasty or something. Look, I get it. It's a butter board. It's inherently gross, but dude, the taste was out of this world. Yeah, it's bread and butter. I'll do that all day. And if I could just some words of encouragement for you and for the audience, just so if you had any doubts. This is unedited. This is fully unedited.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Dude. Is that sick? That's so sick. All right, cool. I mean, and dude, if you're sneezing, dude is that sick that's so sick all right cool i mean and dude if you're sneezing that's how you vape bro sneeze you know you imagine if everyone vaped like jt he wouldn't be cool so or it wouldn't be cool because everyone was doing it the reason the way you vape is cool is because that's the way you vape and it's unique.
Starting point is 00:56:25 So if you're- And I'm trying to nose breathe more. Exactly. He read, you know, James Nestor would be, who authored the book, Breathe or Breath. He loves the way you vape. Thank you. Yeah, and you know,
Starting point is 00:56:41 the way I've rationalized it to myself too is like, it's kind of cool, because when I think I'm vaping, I think I look pretty uncool, but I think it's like, I needed that. I needed to stop trying to look cool and just do what was making me happy. And your girlfriend loves it too. Yeah. She's kind of neutral on it. She's like, she's like pro me not quitting everything.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Cause I haven't been drinking or smoking pot or watching porn so i think she feels like i'm doing a good job on like the uh on the uh on the moderation kick um in terms of i'm doing one thing a lot but i'm not doing other things you blend them together that's moderation let's go so chad and jt um this is austin uh me and my homie were watching a new episode of the last of us and i don't know if you guys have watched it but it's about two homies uh making love and fighting happiness and i was finding it very powerful and i was tearing up even during the intimacy scenes. And me and my homie are straight. And my question is, one, is it gay for me to like the intimacy scenes? And two, is it even gayer that me and my homie were not wearing socks, sitting on the same couch, watching it, and tearing up?
Starting point is 00:58:03 It was a very powerful moment but I was fighting myself disassociating due to the fact that you know we're both straight dudes you know finding ourselves in this very vulnerable moment I just needed to hear some input if you could let me know that'd be great dude i watched that episode too and no dude i think the more you bonded with your bro during that episode episode three with nick offerman and the manager from white lotus season one that guy's a good actor dude the more you guys were getting intimate and getting closer the better it is. What's his name? And it's not gay, dude. It's just beautiful.
Starting point is 00:58:49 It's just beautiful. I, you know, I was with my girlfriend and I was sort of, we were having a good time, but I was sort of like, I wish JT was here because I would be giving him a foot massage right now. Having a bro that you can love and fight the apocalypse and survive the apocalypse with is probably the best thing on earth looking for canned beans all kinds of shit yeah i haven't been watching the last of us but i heard about this episode and people said it was some of the best television they've ever seen um i'm on record i think movies about dudes with
Starting point is 00:59:27 repressed homosexuality are the best films of all time and i think they're actually specifically designed for straight guys because what i think it's really about they rarely have gay sex in them i'd say they have too little gay sex in them um they're really about us being afraid to be vulnerable and i think that's more what you're about. I think it's like uncool to always be worried about like where I'm at on like the straight gay continuum. I don't really give it much thought. Like I like women, but if dudes were making me cum, I would do that. And I don't think I would think twice about it.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Like everything outside of like what makes you cum is just what you like. So if you like watching people be in love, that's beautiful. I was on shrooms one time and I was at swingers diner and I saw these two gay dudes having the most beautiful moment ever. Just like being sweet with each other at their table while they were sharing a grilled cheese. And I wanted to photograph them, but I knew that would have been like super encroaching of me. But no, man,
Starting point is 01:00:23 you just like people being in love and being happy and being themselves and being together on something. To me, that's like the best part of our human experiences that we're in this together, regardless of where our orientations take us. I mean, dude, you and your homie are kicking it on the couch. One of the most intimate moments I ever had was me and my boy A-Bomb were watching Mad Men and I slapped him on the leg because I was so psyched on Don Draper's turn of phrase. And he said he could feel my sexual energy go into his body. And we laughed because it was fun. It was fun to feel that together. And I've kissed some of my homies on the mouth, typically to destabilize the alpha males that were around us
Starting point is 01:00:58 who were having those conversations in their head too often. And no, man, it's whatever makes you feel full of life. That's like the gayest plus straightest plus most beautiful thing you can do i don't know yeah i mean there's nothing more beautiful than ron swanson looking you in the eyes and saying hey i bang dudes yeah that's awesome yeah i i uh i don't know i think and like locker rooms and stuff, you know, we hump each other. Wieners are out. Guys sometimes take it too far, like pee on each other, slap each other with their dongs. Like it's just fun.
Starting point is 01:01:37 What's fun, dude? If you're having fun, that's sick. Yeah, dude. Imagine being in a room full of dong and having no worries about any of that stuff. Just like observing dong. That's pretty cool. You know what it is too? I think dudes, we get into our competitive mindset
Starting point is 01:01:53 when we're in that situation. We get afraid of other dudes' dicks because we worry those dicks can do more work than our dicks can do. And we lose sight of just like, it's cool to be naked and just be a bro and be open. And that's confidence to me. Like just the confidence to not think of things as a threat or thinking of how they impugn your like identity in terms of how other people perceive you, most importantly yourself. So, bro, like, yeah, like there's a great scene in The Sopranos where the two guys are watching their best friends and they're dumbass and they're watching TV in their boxers together.
Starting point is 01:02:24 And like the old school italians make fun of them and it's funny to see those like contrasting generational perceptions but to me dude it's like it's like it's like all good dude me and strider one time we were laying in bed and like we were just like we had slept in the same bed and we were kind of canoodling in the morning just laughing and like he put his fingers up my butt through my boxers but it was funny dude and then i did it to him and like it was funny like we still laugh about it and i don't even know if we should laugh about it maybe it would have been cooler not to laugh you guys did that yeah we were weird i mean dude we just haven't slept in the same bed now because we're older but i'm down oh i thought that recently. I was kind of bummed. No, that was like 15 years ago, man.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Oh, okay. That's cool. It's way back in the day. I just kind of had fun though. Dude, I'll see athletes kiss each other. It's nice. I saw, who did I see kiss Dana White? Tito Ortiz.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Oh, he did? He laid one on Dana White. Yeah, it was great. And he didn't give a skate park protection? No. Oh yeah, Tito. That was one cool moment that Tito had. Dude, think about the miners in
Starting point is 01:03:30 Chernobyl just dropping dong and saving lives. That's all you need, dude. Alright, Chad, should we get into the next part? Yeah. My lord, who's your beef of the week? My beef of the week is generic cola. You know, you go to a restaurant, specifically went to this restaurant. I want a diet Coke and they just have, they're like, well, we don't have diet Coke,
Starting point is 01:03:55 but we do have diet Cola. That was at sugar fire. Yeah. Whoa, big ding. And I'm like, what the, what the hell is diet Cola? What the hell is just cola? I want Coke or Pepsi. No ifs, ands, or buts about it, all right? I'm a brand guy, all right? I'm a full-on American dude, and I want the cola that I know. I don't want some cola that I don't know who's making it. I want the cola I know and I don't want some cola that I don't know where it's, you know, who's making it.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I want the cola I know and I trust. And that's Coca-Cola or Pepsi-Cola. All right? If you're bringing generic cola because you're some hipster to my door, you got another thing coming. All right? Because I will blow some vape smoke right out of my nose in your face, and I won't sneeze.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yeah, who's the guy? That's real talk. Yeah, dude, you remind me. When you said if you bring regular cola to my door, it reminds me of David Koresh, the leader of the Branch Davidians, who were killed in the Waco massacre. When he said, if you come to my door, I will beat you there every time. It's inspiring. Dude, my beef of the week is with, I got a bunch, parking structures wall anchors the wall anchors you
Starting point is 01:05:27 get when you buy stuff or trash you got to buy your own wall anchors i know nothing about this but i know that much and then um bro two more beefs how about the guy at the airport when we were leaving miami who took my seat when i went to go get a coffee. Dude, yeah, I felt kind of bad about that because I was on FaceTime. He sits down and I'm like, hey, man, my buddy's sitting there. Because I was kind of confused because your backpack, I couldn't find your backpack.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I'm like, my homie's sitting there. And he's like, he just looks at me. And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure he's still, you know, and he just looks at me. He just goes back down to his phone. I was like, fuck. I know, I came back sure he still, you know, and he just looks at me and he just goes back down to his phone. I was like, fuck. I know, I came back and I looked at him and he just looked at me and I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:10 I came back and I looked at him and he just looked at me and I was like, dude. Yeah. I was sitting there, bro. And then, dude, my beef of the week, and this is the thought I lost earlier. I'm going into the tough guy for this. Look, I have traveled the world nine times over again.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I've seen some wild shit. I've partied on boats with, you know, sheiks of Dubai, with emperors of Egypt, with all the who's who of the who has it. And the thing that upsets me most, though, is when you have an experience like that. You're on a yacht with some of the coolest motherfuckers the world has to offer. You put it on Instagram because you want to share your good times and then someone goes hey man that guy's not that cool and i've been on a bigger boat and i had this experience i had it in a nutshell yesterday i went to sugar fire barbecue in st louis with my dear friend chad kroger and we had delicious ribs the best ribs i've ever had and I want to share my joy with everyone I
Starting point is 01:07:06 know. So I put up a post on Instagram and I say, look, you got to come get these ribs. They're delicious. It's fun. It's a unique experience. They fall off the bone, off the bone. And then I get all these people and they're saying, you know, the ribs aren't really that good there. You should go in for it. It's like, listen, brother, I've done blow with Diana Ross at Studio 54. All right. I know what good is. I know what a unique experience is. I've been on the back of a Harley with Hunter S. Thompson, who, to be honest, didn't even party that hard.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And I've ridden through the Mojave with mescaline pumping through my veins. And you're going to sit there and you're going to act like I don't know what ribs are because you got some hole in the wall down the street from your house that you swear to Christ is the best fucking thing you've ever had. Look, I'm not doubting it's great. And if you post about it, I'm not going to call you a nincompoop because that's what you're into. All right. But I've tasted the finest powders. I know what I know. So trust me when I say that something's good, I'm not saying it out my ass. All right. Just give me the benefit of the doubt for God's sakes. Step into the tough guy's office. Why? You're not getting fired, but you're not getting promoted
Starting point is 01:08:16 because with that attitude, I don't want to be around it. It's like, if you come home and this is what social media is like, It's like you come home. You're like, hey, I went to Disneyland. It was amazing. And you just have a friend who's sitting there and he's like, hey, Six Slags Magic Mountain is better. It's like, dude, can I take my backpack off first? Can I sit down on the couch first before someone weighs in with what it could have been?
Starting point is 01:08:41 I don't think about what it could have been. The tough guy is in the moment. All I'm thinking about is how great that moment was. I'm not thinking about the moments that I could have had. If I was thinking about that, I'd still be hung up on that time me and Olivia Coppola had a run in at the Swimsuit Illustrated party and I didn't act. It's kind of like when George Clooney talks about those moments in Out of sight when he's having his little a pre quite a flirtation with Jennifer Lopez incredible scene well lit very dynamic editing, but You know, I I don't think about those moments except in this moment. I move I'm I'm on to the next
Starting point is 01:09:18 So stay, you know, let me have my my my things I Just creamed. Thank you. I just craved. Thank you. I just craved. Chad, who's your babe of the week? My babe of the week is the crowds in St. Louis. Well, we've done one show. Phenomenal. They were awesome, dude.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Freaking phenomenal. I went out there and I was like, this is what it's all about man this is what you fucking you do your open mics for 10 years for crowds like this to go out with just a microphone and a solid group of people who are there to laugh and have a good time and you can feel the energy and you give the energy back and it's just a back and forth you're just volleying you know tennis balls with rafael nadal the rafael nadal of crowds people were upset about raf not being on the list yeah and you know what he's a hot dude i should have picked him anyways that's uh
Starting point is 01:10:19 the crowd st louis good crowds good ribs good people I want to give a shout out to my boy, Tim and Mundo. My boys, Tim and Mundo, they're from here. You met them. We played volleyball with them, 4th of July. Oh, good guys. They're from here. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:34 St. Louis has got it going on. You have Nelly. I mean, it's cool. It's cool. The crowd was amazing. They were so engaged and they were, it made it so much fun. Thank you guys. Dude, my babe of the week is,
Starting point is 01:10:49 is the flight attendant on the flight from Miami to St. Louis yesterday. Guy was hilarious. I come on the airplane and I see a funny meme and I want to run up to your seat to tell you about it, but everyone's got to be seated for takeoff. And I'm standing there deciding if I'm going to try to find you on the airplane. And the guy goes, dude, what are you doing? And I just look at him. I'm like, uh, I was going to go see my buddy. He goes, no, you need to sit down. But he said it funny. And
Starting point is 01:11:16 I was like, dude, you're hilarious. I sat down. Then I find you on the airplane. You're sleeping. I like to take photos of my friends when they're sleeping on airplanes. I take a photo of you. He goes, what are you doing? I go, oh, dude, it's my buddy. He goes, give me your phone. I go, dude, it's my buddy. Like, come on, relax. And he goes, no, get in the picture.
Starting point is 01:11:32 So then he takes the phone to take a photo of me. I go, dude, you get into the picture too. He flips it around and takes a selfie of you, me, and him. And then like three other people on the airplane and just snapped a selfie of us. The guy was down, dude. He was so cool. Maybe I can throw the photo up in the, uh, in the edit here. And he just made the whole experience great. And then every time I went to the bathroom after that to vape, um, he was so sweet. He, we just laughed and, uh, we didn't say much, but I was like, what's up,
Starting point is 01:11:59 dude? He's like, what's up? And we just like, we're laughing. It was, it was really nice. That guy was awesome, dude. Chad, who's your legend of the week? and we just like were laughing it was it was really nice that guy was awesome dude chad who's your legend of the week uh my legend of the week is bruce willis uh had some tough tough news come out this week that he has dementia which my dad you know when they came out with his first the declaration of he had this thing uh my dad was like that's dementia so I already knew it but it's really sad he's having basically unable to speak and communicate anymore the poor guy man I just want to give a huge shout to Bruce Willis I mean I think you know one of my favorite action heroes of all time. The charisma on the guy.
Starting point is 01:12:51 He's, you know, I often, I can't imagine having like a Bruce Willis. If you're in a tough situation and you have a Bruce Willis with you, you know you're going to get through. He's just an incredible actor. So fun to watch. Thank you so much for all the great times you've given us and continue to give us through your movies you know your your legacy will live on and it is a strong one my friend so um i just want to pay homage to one of the greats he's an icon diehard armageddon so many great films pulp fiction he always brought he had he was cool too like he never
Starting point is 01:13:28 overdid it no and uh whole nine or uh i like whole nine yards whole nine yards and oceans 12 his uh just his cameos amazing fifth element great element yeah bleached it for that that was cool yeah it's sad funny too it's it and the thing is with guys like that you you you kind of uh assume they'll always be around that they're like immortal you know what i mean because they feel bigger than life so it i think it reminds us of all of our mortality to see them go through difficult experiences that that doesn't seem like there's a corrective for it um but you know, you had a huge impact, Bruce. You really did. Dude, my legend of the week is this person who prank called me on Valentine's day.
Starting point is 01:14:13 My girlfriend had gone to sleep. She was resting up, giving nutrients to our two little ones that are brewing in her tum tum. And then I get a call non-listed number i'm like what the hell i pick up and someone's like hey i'm stuck in the bathroom i lost my phone like what do i do can you call someone and i i was like oh that's a prank caller 100 and then so i just start being like hey what's going on are you prank calling me and i just want to talk to them like normally and then they try to prank me for like a little bit longer but they didn't have like a good prank setup i've been there before sometimes you just run out of things to say and uh and then they tried to prank me for like a little bit longer, but they didn't have like a good prank set up. I've been there before.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Sometimes you just run out of things to say. And then we just started talking because my girlfriend was asleep. So I didn't have anyone to talk to about me putting up the coat hangers yet. I wanted to wake up my girlfriend, but that would have been too much. I think I did wake her up anyways.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And then I wanted to complain about the wall anchors because I had to like hammer them in, but then they were getting bent. And then, so I had to screw them in and they were just kind of faulty. And then I was a little upset because I didn't get the wall anchor and this all the way into the wall. So there was like a little bit of a gap between the coat rack and the wall, not big, but you could fit like a post-it between it. And my mind was just obsessed over that little gap. I just wanted to, I just wanted them to fit perfect. I just wanted it to kiss like my fingers right here, just welded over that little gap. I just wanted him to fit perfect.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I just wanted it to kiss like my fingers right here, just welded to that wall. And I was explaining that to the caller. And then I talked about how I felt about impending fatherhood. I just opened up. I just wanted someone to listen and they were there. And yeah, it was just a delightful experience. And what was so funny about it was unexpected.
Starting point is 01:15:44 You know what I mean? It came out of nowhere nowhere so uh yeah you're my legend of the week chad what's your quote of the week my quote of the week comes from heat the movie amazing movie if you haven't watched it i shouldn't say this but turn off the pod right now and go watch the movie it's a great movie from neil mccauley played by robert downey jr uh deniro was that on purpose i want to say yes but no downey jr would have been good in that yeah probably more i do know it's robert deniro though they're just fucking yeah we're talking a lot um i'm alone i'm not lonely he's badass when he says that um my quarter of the week is from that john cassavetes book i'm reading so he was doing like these like uh really challenging independent films
Starting point is 01:16:33 and the studios in hollywood kept being like you don't know what you're talking about that's not what people like and then he said um and he had been through the system enough to know that like no one really knows what they're talking about that's william goldman's first rule of hollywood no one knows anything and cassavetes said they're full of shit they don't know any more than i do and i don't even know what i like and that was a really cool way to put it because he wasn't just saying they're idiots he's saying no look i'm an idiot too and i i think that's true it's like none of us know anything you know i don't even know what i like i I really don't. And then there's things I think I would like that I don't.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And there's things that I thought I wouldn't like that I do. And it's like, it's always a surprise. That's what's fun about it. That's the thing. I used to be so, I used to have like sort of a hard line of like, I don't watch sad movies. And then so I've watched some, I'm like, this is fantastic. Like I'm watching, I keep watching All Quiet on the Western front.
Starting point is 01:17:26 It's tough. The German one that just came out? Yeah. I heard it's amazing. It's amazing. And it's a really hard, sad, tough watch. You know, it's brutal, but I love it. So yeah, I think it's cool to be kind of like fluid and like all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:42 That's one thing too about like when people like opine about his politics or whatever and they're very like hard they're like they're like i'm i'm i'm not on the right i'm on the left it's like i feel like you know it's i feel like everything is nuanced you know it's it's it's kind of stupid to be rigid and you're the way you you know to to hold that rigidity in everything that you believe. Because I think there's a lot of facts out there. There's a lot of different things out there. I think people should be open to being swayed. Yeah, and I think we all end up being wrong
Starting point is 01:18:15 more than we're right. Yeah. Like I was so confident about certain things during COVID and I was really hard on people who disagreed with me. And I think time has kind of made me realize like I was, yeah, I didn't know as much as I thought I did. And I don't know, I'll still be wrong in the future and probably be overconfident on things.
Starting point is 01:18:35 But if I look back on how I thought certain situations were gonna play out, especially big ones that are beyond my like immediate life, I'm wrong all the fucking time. Yeah. But I might just be especially stupid. Chad, what's your phrase that we're forgetting after? Are we all though?
Starting point is 01:18:50 Yeah. Are you guys smart? Yeah, they said they are. You guys do seem smart. I mean, you came up in school just on the East Palestine thing. So you're probably smarter than us for sure. Chad, what's your phrase that we're forgetting after it dude they have five different kinds of barbecue
Starting point is 01:19:08 sauce dude the white one yeah i didn't even know those barbecue sauce till you told me then i was psyched five different kinds of barbecue sauce that's so cool what's up? What's your phrase of the week? Oh, yeah. My phrase of the week for getting after it? I'm trying to think if something iconic was said during... I'm trying to think if something specifically party-inducing was said during our time in Miami.
Starting point is 01:19:48 No. specifically party-inducing, was set during our time in Miami. Now, my phrase of the week for getting after it is sugar fire. Nice. How's that experience? It was sugar fire. That's epic. Half Coast, thank you guys for hosting us. You guys were tremendous. This is a fantastic setup
Starting point is 01:20:06 guys if you're ever in st louis and you record podcasts check these dudes out um i loved it dude i think this furthers my feelings on the uh table setup like this yeah dude so we're trying to set up a new studio and chad wants to do a table he feels like the conversation's better when we're like the chair picks us up a little bit rather than the couches we were kind of sinking into. And you feel more connected to the person you're talking to
Starting point is 01:20:30 when you're square with each other. I tend to agree. So weigh in and let us know. Yeah, let us know what you think. Yeah. We want the new digs to, you know, bring out the best. Thanks for watching.
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