Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 357 - Classic Solo

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Today is another classic solo ep with just the bros! We start off the ep talking about the doomsday fish in La Jolla and why chad thinks it a sign off earthquakes. JT talks about parenting and taking his kids to the gym. We also discover why Chad doesn't drink protein shakes, ONLY STEAK AND CHICKEN! We take some great callers! https://www.PARRFORBURBANK.com We are live streaming a Fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://shop.chadandjt.com/ Come see us on Tour! WE JUST ADDED 30 NEW cities for fall dates into 2025Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Thanks to Our Sponsors: Hims - Best Hair Loss Prevention around. Go to https://www.hims.com/godeep to start your free online consult today! HomeChef - Best Meal Plans! Get 18 free meals plus free dessert when going to https://www.homechef.com/godeep Shoutout - MagicMind, Easy Rider, Botanic Tonics

What up dudes this is JT Parr and this is going deep with Chad and JT and say what up to my partner. Where's Chad? Chad? Oh no. Is Chad running late? I didn't check before I started. All right, well he'll be here soon. He's the man. He probably just got stuck in some of that LA traffic. But if I know my dog, he's coming too fast. But I'll be steering the ship for now. And you know, I'll be steering it gently.

This is an oil tanker. We're not going to just be careening in a different subject. We're going to go low and slow. What class is... So Big Nut Tut on the chat, this is his first time here, is saying he has to go to his first class in 15 minutes. Your first class ever in your life? So you must be like four years old. Well, Big Nut Tut, just stay optimistic, have fun,

and, you know, be nice to the kid who seems lonely. Oh, your first sex ed class, you're older. That's exciting. I mean, look, this might be bad advice, but I think there's a good opportunity there to do a kind of a funny joke so as to appeal to everyone in the class and make yourself look cool. sex ed was nuts, dude

You know in my school they separated the boys and the girls. Oh Dude this guy booty snorkeler just wrote in he's going to jet-skiing this weekend. He thought I should know Thank you for telling me booty snorkelerler. That's going to be awesome, dude. Just pin it. You can't really get hurt on a wave runner. I've hit the water pretty hard and I'm always like, am I concussed? And I'm like, if you were concussed, you wouldn't be asking that. Oh, dude, this guy was in a sex ed class, Papa Leon, and his friend got him to ask the

teacher what a penis balloon was. I don't know what a penis balloon is, so that's probably a good question. Oh, and here he is. Dude, I accidentally started without you, bro. Sorry, man. It went okay. You talking to the chat? Yeah, we're just hanging out. Who's out? We got Dark Tinkle? Hell yeah. Fresh pair of pants, cream jeans. Dylan Lowe needs a raise.

Who? Dylan Lowe. Dylan Lowe. Beef Nips found a penis pump? Alright. Guys, welcome to the podcast. Before you do anything, make sure you like, comment, subscribe if you're watching this on YouTube. That helps us out and helps push this Stoke pod out to more people, which we'd be very grateful for. Also, we are back on tour.

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All right, let's start the show. Tick, tick. ["Going Deep"] Once you're deep, going deep, trying to change things. You know, I left last week's pod a little nervous. Maybe it was two weeks ago because I saw that the doomsday fish appeared. The doomsday fish appears before big earthquakes or tsunamis. They appear in La Jolla. But then I remembered we experienced a quake right after doomsday fish said, what up?

Wait, so what? So doomsday fish appeared in La Jolla. And who, yeah, like who is that? It's this fish that comes to warn human beings, danger is coming. And so it appears from the deep sea because I think it has contact with the core of the earth somehow.

They say that we only know about 1% of the ocean, so that's still a mystery, but it comes up and basically appears, and I don't know how, but it sends a message to, you know, La Jolla scientists saying, look out, there's an earthquake coming. So, there, yeah. And then, so I was like, damn, are we gonna have a fat earthquake? But then guess what? The earthquake happened live on the pod two days after Doomsday Fish said, hey, look out.

Was I here for that? Yeah. That's scary. Yeah. We survived it. I'm glad we're okay. Yeah. At least I think we did. We could be in a parallel universe and could have died in that and now we're in another universe and we just think we're still in the same life but really we just woke up in another dream. My breakfast was still good. For real?

Oh, that's good. What'd you have? Eggs Benedict. Dude, that's sick that in a parallel universe, they still have Eggs Benny. I cooked it. You did? Mm-hmm.

You make hollandaise? I made my own hollandaise. How do you make hollandaise? You just get sauces and put them together in a pan. Oh. Where are the sauces? It's like egg and like creme fraiche. So there's more egg on a hollandaise?

So it's egg on egg? I don't know. Damn. Dude, fresh pair of pants is a prophecy that you're gonna win council. That's really nice. Thanks, dude. I mean Yeah, I am How's the campaign trail? I think it's going well. I mean i'm going door to door. It's nice talking to the neighbors It's good finding out what their issues is. You just meet really lovely people and they have great like, uh I don't know. They just have great things to talk about.

Like one guy, I was like, hey, what's up sir? My name's John Parman for city council in Burbank. And I just wanna ask you like, what are the big issues to you? He's like, oh, you're running, huh? Publican or Democrat? They always do that. I'm like, Democrat.

And he was like, you know, I got a problem. I got, look at this orange tree I got here. This is the biggest orange tree in all of Burbank. It's the oldest orange tree in all of Burbank. So about a year and a half ago, this lady starts coming by with a tree picker, starts taking my oranges. I'm like, oh no. And he's like, yeah.

So I tell her, hey, you can have my oranges. It's fine, you know, but don't come into my yard with a stick. I'll leave you a basket. just tell me when you're coming. She goes okay, leaves. She keeps coming back picking my oranges. Pretty soon she's taken too many of them. So I come outside one day to stop her, she starts hitting me with the stick. Yeah, she's like I got a big well on my head from her hitting me with the stick.

So I called the cops and I went to LA cops instead of Burbank, because I'm like one street over. So you gotta fix that, make sure it goes to Burbank police. Wow. And I was like, all right, cool. That's such a specific issue. It is, yeah. I like that issue.

The outline of the city is a little goofy, over there on like Pass or Neybourne, I think. So is he a resident of Burbank? But because of the technicalities. He's like right on the border. So if you move like 10 feet this way, it goes to LA instead of Burbank. Wow.

Dude, that does make a huge difference. I have Culver City cops and I feel much safer. Burbank has great response time. They're there in three minutes. Yeah. I was talking to one guy about this, that in the both in both riots and the riots in early 90s and then the riots 2020, you know, they're happening in like West Hollywood and Santa Monica and every time they try to start in

Culver City, the cops are like, no, it's not happening. Yeah, it's law and order. We might actually have the highest view count we've ever had live. Really? Yeah, we're at 106 live viewers. 106,000? Yeah, 106,000. Yep. That's pretty good.

Yeah, we're getting there. That's like a whole Lollapalooza. Exactly. Wow. Dude, we're talking to Lollapalooza. Does that make us like Limp Bizkit? It's like a whole Lollapalooza. Exactly. Wow. Dude, we're talking to Lollapalooza. Does that make us like Glym Biscuit? Dude, I hope so.

I don't know if I could live up to that name. I think we're more of like a simple plan. They were good. Dude, they're still cruising. What are their songs again? I forget the name. I'm just a kid and this is a nightmare. Raging boner biscuit.

Perfect. Yeah, they're good. So what are your thoughts on the whole Demure phenomenon? What is that? A lot of people are using the word Demure. Jake, do you know anything about this? Seen like a couple chicks post about it, but I don't really understand what it means.

That's sick. So, okay, so everyone's having a brat summer, right? That means everyone's being wild and unapologetic. And I'm a brat, you know, I smoke vapes and I, you know, freaking, I take my shirt off. And now we're having a demure autumn, which means we're very sort of with our manners and polite, observing our manners. I love that.

Yeah. Have you done a deep dive into it yet? Demure? No, I literally didn't. Um, have you done a deep dive into it yet? Demure? No, I literally didn't. I saw something about it and then someone in the chat brought it up and that's all I've really, but um, I like Demure. I like it more than Brat.

Yes. Agreed. Why don't you like brat? Um, because I like when people are proper. I think it's pretty sick. He like manners. Yeah. I like polo. I like water polo. I like Ralph Lauren. I like to more like when people are Demure. And which clothing companies are Brat?

Hot topic. I know it's not, that's just a store, but it's Brat. I don't know of specific brands. Volcom. Oh. Dude, Volcom's Brat. Volcom? Oh. Dude, Volcom's brat.

Should big titty honkers be worried about trying shrooms for the first time while currently on antidepressants? I mean, dude, you came to the right place, big titty honkers. What's your take? I think he should ask a psychiatrist. I thought you had some knowledge on it. I do.

You do? Yeah. What do the... Do you know what psychiatrists say? I know what my psychiatrist told me. Can you say it or do you not want to say it? Well, yeah, I don't want to... Everybody's different, you know? And I don't know this guy from... Is it dangerous? Is it known to be dangerous?

To do mushrooms? On antidepressants? I think it's dangerous to do mushrooms, period. I don't think the mushrooms are going to kill you, but you could do some wild stuff or kick some doors open in your head that Might need to stay shut right so you think you should do with a supervised professional Yeah, or I think he should um You know what this is what I'm saying I Don't think it's cool of him to ask us

Right because then he's putting us in a spot where I'm telling him it's okay to do drugs. Right. Like, ask your buddy who's your psychiatrist. Yeah, big titty honkers. Ask someone else. I would say if you're gonna do mushrooms, do it with like one or two people. Don't do it with a hundred people because no matter what you're on, that'll do it with like one or two people. Don't do it with 100 people, because no matter what you're on, that'll ruin it.

100 people? Yeah, I did it one time at a party and I freaked out, and I thought the cops were coming and had a crazy experience. Whereas if I just did it with a bro and we gotta have a heart to heart and you gotta talk, it was an awesome experience. I have continually less and less interest in doing anything.

Like, you know, I'd say like a couple of years ago, I was like interested in doing mushrooms and experimenting with it. But I'm like, people are like, yeah, that's how you break through the ego and you find like peace and stuff. I don't know. I think it's cooler to find that without anything. Yeah, I also feel like I think you're making a really good point where people are like, oh, I got to do mushrooms to supersede my ego.

I'm like, sounds like you're thinking about yourself a lot. Yeah. What if you're just a regular dude plugging away? Yeah. What if you were just a regular dude plugging away? Yeah. That feels pretty egoless. Yeah, just doing your thing. Just say the truth, I'm bored. Yeah.

Well, that's the thing is people are like, yeah, you know, I experiment with hallucinogenics and like, you know, and ketamine to, you knowamine to break through my depression. And I'm kind of like, why are you just stopping a pussy? That's not what you mean. No, I, it's still like, it's still like people are always trying to look for solutions through drugs and stuff and it's like I understand that smoking weed or doing shrooms and stuff can help you see the world

in a different way, maybe help you see like the interconnectedness of all things and stuff, which is cool. And it's affordable. And it's affordable. But I'm also like, you could also take a walk outside and kinda, I think it's much, I think you can make it much simpler than having to go through all this trouble. I think you can make it much simpler

than having to go through all this trouble. I don't know. No, I agree with that a lot of the time. Do you think, yeah, Lord and savior, that's your drug? Nice. JT, first baby is due in March. I'm stoked and terrified. What's your biggest tip?

Word of advice. Prioritize your partner and their wants and needs. Congratulations. It's awesome. It's the best. I took my, me and my lovely lady E, we went to my gym, which is like a little workout class for kids where they like climb on top of foam pits

and stuff like that. Dude, it was sick. Yeah, my son, he was like, he's so strong. He can already do a pull-up. Really? Yeah, he's a strong. He can already do a pull-up. Really? Yeah, he's a beast. He's climbing everything. And then they're both just superstars.

I mean, they just light a room up. They're so smiley, they're so happy. And then about three fourths of the way through the class, my son, he's just like me, he's a sprinter. He just was having the best time of his life. And then just on a dime, he just fell down and started crying, was just so over it. And I'm'm like dude. He's all partied out

Yeah, and he just is overstimulated. He was having fun He was the life of the party and now he's done done done and all he wants to do is get out of there That's awesome So he emptied the tank he emptied it big time and then he was so mad Give me out of here. He's just like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,

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Little hang doggie. It was like running around bumping kids. Just the biggest kid in there just bumping them. Just so nature Mm-hmm. It's sick. It was badass. So as you've been a parent for over a year now, are you nature versus nurture? Oh. I'd say I'm 60% nature, 40% nurture. Nice. I think the way I think about it is like, 40% nurture. Nice.

I think the way I think about it is like, I got lucky. My kids are like super happy. So I'm always just like, all right, my job is to keep them happy. Yeah. I don't know if I have enough horsepower and influence to really change their hard wiring, but I think there's things that could get lost if I don't keep it encouraged. Right.

And so I'm just like, all right, they're smiling all the time. How long can we keep that? How long can we keep them smiling? Yeah. Because I mean, there's gonna be hard times. They cry a lot too, which is I think good, but I'm like overall they have a happy disposition.

So I'm just trying to keep that protected. That's what my brother always says about his son. He's like, I need to keep that energy. Cause he has such great energy, such great aura. He's like, I just need to maintain that and like, don't lose that. Totally. They're outgoing. They go into the world and they're like, they're not afraid of it.

They want to engage with it. And I think that's why you can support them even when they overstep a little bit, because I'd rather them Overdo it because they're too confident than under do it because they're afraid right you want them to get out there Yeah, I want them to make mistakes fall over on someone and then you know have to figure out not to do it again Yeah, it's it's nice I'm glad there's two of them too. That's been sick.

When they laugh together, it's a... Oh, they laugh together? Sometimes. That's fun. The doctor said 14 months when they really started interacting, but they're like 13 and they're already doing it. They have moments where they'll just sit and stare at each other and laugh. It's just like this bubbling energy.

I'll come home and be like, what the hell is that? That is the sickest thing I have ever seen. That's awesome. Yeah, little cutie patooties. Dude, I went to the Mecca, worked out at the Mecca Gold's Gym in Venice. So you were texting on a chain that I was on. I didn't know what it was.

Oh, that's Mecca's Gold's Gym? Yeah. So is it mostly Muslim people? No, they just like, that's cultural appropriation. They're like, let's use the name they use for like the Mecca and put that as the like Mecca of weightlifting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you'd have to take that up with Mr. Gold,

you know, if you think that's niche. But dude, the Mecca, dude, yeah, I went to, I did my pilgrimage and frigging it's sick. Cause everyone there is so inspiring. They're so jacked. They're so jacked Everyone is so jacked and you just it makes is it's humbling. You know, it's very you're like you're like damn, dude I feel like a Friggin doughboy, you know, everyone's just cranking it out. There's gold

330 pound dumbbells at the front of the gym. I'm like, who lifts those? To someone? Arnold. Yeah. Did you lift harder because of the environment? Yeah. What'd you do? Which muscle group did you hit?

Well, I was with Moscow, so we did a bodybuilder's circuit. So we did every muscle. So we did, we started off doing deadlifts and then we did some kettlebell leg stuff and then did lunges and body squats. And then we did bench press, pushups, and then we did pull-ups and dumbbells,

like bent over rows. So you were super setting everything super setting. So the pump must have been pretty fantastic Pump was then we went to Aron after nice. So we got like yeah, and what kind of protein did you get? What I get brisket good. Yeah So you get a protein shake? No Just straight bread. I never really get protein shakes. So the argument for them get a protein shake? No, just straight protein. I never really get protein shakes. So the argument for them, cause I was wondering about this.

Yeah. And I don't mean to come in like, you know, but apparently the protein in a protein shake goes into your muscles faster. So steak takes two hours. So when you're in that crucial period after a lift where you need to get protein into the worked over muscles, it gets there quicker than a conventional tactile.

Is that because it's chopped up and it's easier to absorb? Yeah, I think there's just different kinds of, like you know the way there's complex carbohydrates, simple carbohydrates, there's just some kind of hierarchy or delineation between different forms of protein and some get there faster. Oh, interesting. Yeah, you you know I've never really like I've been working out consistently for like you know. Your whole life. Yeah you know I didn't really work out in college though or high school.

I guess I did sports sports but like on my own volition going to the gym since uh you know my own volition, going to the gym, probably for like 12 years. But I've never really done protein or been interested in protein, any of that stuff. I never really, I don't know. It's never really been part of my routine. I've never done creatine. Wait, so you went your whole life not doing protein?

I mean, I do protein in the form of steak Like I you know, I'll eat steak by the hand after I lift But you know, I've never really been like what's the deal with metrics and are you somewhat suspicious of anything? That's like been created by nerds Yeah 110% You know some guy named Darrell is Yeah, 110%. You know, some guy named Darryl is making my protein. You gotta wonder, is it even legit?

What's the, you know, what's the catch? You're not just gonna, if you're a nerd, you're not just gonna help out the jocks, make them more buff, unless you can cash in on that and also put a barb in their taint. You know? Is that in the protein? I assume.

That must have been a lot. Well, I mean, what are your thoughts on it? You're pro protein. I've been going to vitamin shops since I was 11. Yeah. I was on the NO2, the creatine, the amino acids, the arginine, everything early. And then I just wasn't making gains

and it made me suspicious of the whole enterprise. And then when I was 18, I did the real stuff, the T, the HGH, the hard hitting shit. And I swole up, bro. I had 20 pounds of new found rock just slapped on my body. Dude, that's so sick. That just fired me up. It was pretty bad ass.

And I was lifting like two, three times a day and then playing volleyball the rest of it. And like, my dad was just like, dude, get a job. And I was like, I have a job, man. All right, it's living life and being awesome. Then I got off of it, lost some muscle. My shoulder was all banged up. And I think it was cause when I was on that stuff

I was lifting beyond what my tendons were ready for and I didn't feel it because I was so Antibiotically turn yeah, and now I've come to like a middle ground. I drink protein shakes after I lift and I And I take some I take a little nootropic and I do a little athletic greens and that's about it for me You didn't do tropic. What's your new tropic? I do like this magnesium theridate. Hmm. It's a little pouch and then I do the magic mine. Oh nice sponsor I Yeah, I think I might do a three-day fast again soon. Oh, I might be down for that Yeah, I did 36 hours a couple weeks ago. I felt amazing. You get high. Stan You get high, yeah. It's awesome.

Marshall I went to the store because I was like zooming. The comedy store. I was like zooming. I was like, I need to be around people. Stan You, I think at a certain point too, all anxiety is just goes away. It's impenetrable. You cannot like, when I was at like 48 hours, maybe like When I was at 48 hours, maybe 54, I was like, anxiety's not even a thing anymore. That can't even penetrate. Yeah. Because I'm starving.

Yeah, you got bigger fish to fry. Yeah. Namely, I'm hungry. Yeah. Yeah, if you're hungry, you're not worried about, did you say something dumb? Yeah, that's the thing is all those thoughts of like, what's my place in this world?

Am I okay? What does Megan from third grade think of me? Those are gone because my mind is just purely steak or brisket. Yeah. And butter and A1 sauce. LD brisket. Yeah. And butter and A1 sauce. LDL baby. Yeah.

Yeah, even, you know, my girlfriend's like, what do you want to eat? And I looked at her, I was like, rump roast. What? I don't know. What is rump roast? I don't know. I don't either. That's why I said it. I was like, and then afterwards when I started eating, I was like, I don't, she's is rump roast? I don't know. I don't either.

That's why I said it. And then afterwards when I started eating, I was like, she's like, what was that? I'm like, I don't even know. I was just on such like, you know, how like Plato talks about, or like Socrates, there's like a infinite knowledge that you can access. I think I did that.

So it's like a stream above us. Yeah, it's like, you know, in fifth element, how the taxis are like, it's like, it's like that. You guys got to catch a taxi and you're like, oh shit equals MC squared. It's like you literally grab it. Yeah. For everybody.

Yeah. But you just got to be hungry. Yeah. All right, I won't eat the rest of the day. Yeah. Yeah, I got something we could talk about. So, since football season starting, the Chargers got stuck in an elevator

and their coach, who's a big football guy, Jim Harbaugh, he said he's mad because that he wasn't in there because it would have been a learning lesson. He could have talked to the guys during those two hours. How would you feel if you were stuck in an elevator with someone for two hours would you feel like you'd become closer to that person? You think you could you know take over the world with that person? Well let me ask you this first, did they feel in danger? Were they nervous or were they kind of like, we're gonna get out of here?

Yeah, so he claims that the leader, Justin Herbert, the quarterback, he was a rock, kept everybody calm, kept everybody's poised. So he was still like a leader in a situation like that. That's sick, good for him. But he says, yeah, test people's wills, you know, it makes them, they're stuck in a place together. I love Jim Harbaugh because he's always at about a 10. And so this is him just finding the silver lining in a pretty mundane situation.

Like, I feel like two guys could try to go into the same stall to take a crap. And he'd be like, look right there. That's two competitors finding the middle path into who gets to use the shitter. So who gets to go first? It's the guy who's got to go back to his position group first. And he recognized that immediately because that's ours. That's that's Derwin James. He understands what's important and had a triage defensive responsibility. So yeah, so Bosa took a big shit. Derwin stood by waited, then Bosa got out of then Derwin took a big shit. Bang, bang by, waited. Then Bosa got out of it, then Derwin took a big shit.

Bang, bang, like that. Two big thoroughbreds on the pot. That's the kind of team we got. Sick. Jim Harbaugh's like, he's just like. But it rips. Like he was USD's coach, so we were just down there. They won the Nadi where we went on South of the lacrosse.

Then he went to Stanford, turned them into a powerhouse, went for two against USC when they were up by like 40. Pete Carroll was like, dude, what's your problem? Harbaugh was like, I got a million. Then he went to the Niners, took them to the Super Bowl, lost to his bro, now he's back. Got one at Michigan. Yeah, he went to the Niners.

How long was he with the Niners? Six years, maybe. And then he was with Michigan for about six, seven years. Did he do well with them? Yeah, they won a national title in his last season. But now they're like in trouble. They had like an assistant who is filming other teams games, which honestly doesn't even seem illegal to me.

I'm on Harbaugh's side. But I think he's he's he's acting like he didn't know. Yeah, people are making it. They're being dramatic about it. They're like he hired a spy. I don't know all the details, so I'm just winging from memory. But it didn't seem that serious to me.

I wish I could have been there with the guys. Yeah, do you think it would, you know, bring you closer to some people being stuck in an elevator? Do I think it would make me closer? Yeah, like even if they were just like random people. He filmed practices. Yeah, 100%.

100%. That's where you get deep. If I have a daughter and she starts dating some guy and it's getting serious, I'm gonna get us both in an elevator. That's smart. Just hit the stop button and be like, so what's up? Just see how long it takes him

before he tries to hook up with you. Yeah. Oh dude. That'd be an interesting test. If he makes it three hours, I think that's all right. Yeah. Are you gonna, if your daughter has like some, you know, a serious boyfriend come over,

you know, are you gonna like, how are you gonna act? Are you gonna like, take a big dump and lock him in the bathroom and just, you know, intimidate him? That's not a bad idea. I could see myself doing that. Cool. Sup Stokers. This is Tris from Raleigh, North Carolina. How's it going? Good, man. Great intro. Yeah, strong setting.

Thank you, dude. That was fire. Oh, you guys are coming to Raleigh in October. Yeah. Am I, my little sister's gonna be there too. Nice. Yeah. That's awesome.

She in North Carolina or like, why is that? She's in North Carolina, yeah. Okay, sweet. Yeah, studying medicine. Well, I just wanted to talk to you guys about something and maybe just share like a little counter perspective on something I heard from a number, it was a long time ago, I can't exactly remember the date, but it has to do with achieving climax with a loved one. And I just, you know, heard something that kind of got me thinking a little bit.

As in a family, brother or sister? No, no, no, no, not a brother or sister. I'm talking about maybe a wife, girlfriend. Oh. I thought that was an interesting way of calling it the wrong thing. I thought achieving climax with Ken. You're right, no, I appreciate that.

No, that's a really important clarification. My bad on that front. Oh good. So I think it might have been Shrider, but he just basically said that he, you know, actually typically does not come anymore. And that just kind of got me thinking because I went through a stretch of time where that was true for me as well, but it kind of like I didn't like it dude like I didn't like the sensation of like having sex and then like basically being able being unable to get there and so I was like just kind of doing a little bit of research on it and trying to figure out what's going on and I think you know I mean I guess if it works for some people like that's's cool with them, and that's cool.

But I just wanted to maybe articulate a counter perspective that said, one of the things I realized was that like, sounds like masturbation was kind of like taken away from my ability to achieve climax. And so that kind of sucked. And I actually correlated the two and once I kind of cut back on that The climaxes were were fully loaded locked and loaded again and I can tell you it made a difference between me and my girlfriend So I just wanted to share that experience So what generally makes you come? That's a good question, I think it's like a combination of like

That's a good question. I think it's like a combination of like, like my head space and then kind of combined with like, obviously the physical sensation, but like when it's the two of them are together, it's like, kind of like what helps me get there. Do you are you like an eye contact guy, kisses guy dirty talk guy, or is it just the the how good it feels to go in and out? Um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's a little bit of all the above. I mean, I think from the dirty talk perspective, that was

probably like lowest on the list. But like, yeah, the eye contact, like, the connection. The Yeah, the feeling the sensations all kind of plays a role. And then like, you know, there's also some dynamics around like work stress levels, like where my head's at in terms of like other things going on in my life and just kind of like being able to zone into the present moment and like just connect with her

on this like very like present level is also like a kind of a big part of it for me as well. Yeah, I'm glad you shared this. You know, I had a similar experience because in high school and college, you know, I was cranking it a lot, watching a lot of backroom casting couch. Yeah.

And it was great. What about big naturals? I haven't dabbled, is that good? I spy camel toe. Oh yeah, love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I spy camel toe, backdoor casting couch and big gapes. Nice.

And so that, my mind was constantly being stimulated. And so, you know, when it came to the real thing, especially cause I'd be partying and I'd usually be drunk during the time of fornication, I could never bust. And it was even the first, probably five or six times that I actually did the deed, I didn't bust and I would lie about it.

I'd be like, oh, I just came. Oh, dang. Yeah. And they'd be like, you did? I'd be like, yeah. And then I'd just run away. But I learned that thing. It's like I was stimulating my hog too much and my mind.

So taking a step back from the nography and just trying to crank it less and not come as often has led to some really powerful sensual moments. And now it's like so much that I come too quick with my current lady, which is huge props to her. But something that I'm not ideal with the opposite problem, which I never thought I'd have.

But something that I deal with the opposite problem, which I never thought I'd have. Yeah. You know, I exactly though, dude. I, um. Sorry, GG. Sorry. Until my girlfriend now, I never had an orgasm. For real? I didn't even know I was faking it.

I thought I was actually busting. Wow. I didn't even know I was faking it. I thought I was actually busting. Wow. And it wasn't until I found her and she kind of called me out on it and said, hey, I think you're faking. And I was like, no. And I felt so unsafe.

And then, you know, we argued actually. And then through counseling and just her holding my hand through it, I realized I've never busted. And yeah, I've just started having real orgasms for the first time with another person and it's it's amazing but it is scary to let someone in like that because what if they take it away right you know what if they take away the bust that they gave me well it's so

interesting because you know before you were with her you were known for having really loud climaxes yeah like our friend Joe was my roommate and he would always talk to me like dude you like are really loud during sex and I thought I was genuinely just like loving it and now I'm realizing a lot of it was performative but I didn't even know because I was so far away from who I am today. Does that include like, uh, orgasms just by yourself, like masturbating, no climaxes there, or you just specifically with another person? So after looking into it more, I realized even when I was by

myself, masturbating, I was faking it. And you were making the noise still. And I was still being really loud masturbating by myself and faking it for who? Joe. Joe. So Joe would be like, who are you? Who are you with? Sorry, go ahead, brother. What is it? Oh, my bad.

I was just gonna say my college roommate grew up kind of in the Bible belt where masturbation is like strictly off limits. And he like never did his entire life. Not even a single time. Like even through college, never ever jerked it and he would get wet dreams like a freaking mofo because of it, but that's the only other person in my life who I'd ever heard of, you know, I guess it's a little

slightly different not having an orgasm versus never masturbating because it's against your spiritual convictions. But that's insane. I'm glad you turned the corner on that one, JT. That's a fantastic place to be between you and your girlfriend. Does your buddy nut now? He does, yeah.

He got married and yeah, they figured it out. So he does now, thankfully. Dude, I always thought about, you know, for the people who wait until marriage, they've never experienced post-nut clarity with their partner. That's gotta be scary. You wouldn't as crazy as I actually personally waited for marriage myself.

Oh, you did. Did you have- I did, dude. Were you scared of the PNC? So what's funny, dude, is I ended up unfortunately getting divorced from that girl. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, but it's hard to describe, dude,

because when we waited to have sex until we were married, we dated for like four years, didn't have sex a single time, and then we got married and started having sex and I kind of thought like, hey, you know, let's introduce sex to this relationship. It's going to make a lot of these different kind of bed flags go away. And then we got married and like sex didn't fix anything, dude. It actually was like a huge point of contention. Yeah. So did you guys have good sexual chemistry? Yeah. So did you guys have good sexual chemistry?

Um, dude, it's hard to describe. Like short answer is no. Um, like not really, dude. And I don't know. I got a couple of theories. Like I think for one, she could never, there was always just a little tinge of kind of like that little Bible belt shame about it that she can never really get past. Yeah.

Um, which is unfortunate. Now before you guys got married, you would still like make out and like dry hump and stuff, right? Yeah, yeah we would, but dude, I'm telling you, we were disciplined bro, we never really got past like second base. But was there good sexual chemistry during that?

Like did you feel very turned on by her? Yeah, for sure, for sure. And then it was just when you guys went all the way with it, it kind of dissipated? 100%. And like, there was a lot that kind of went into it. I don't even know, dude, I'm obviously not an expert, but like, I think it had something to do with like

some of the power dynamics in our relationship that like sex kind of like turned them on their head and be more explicit. What do you mean? I don't do it. It's hard to describe it. Like basically I think like, you know, if you think of sex is kind of this like intimate like energy exchange between two people, there's kind of like a, a giver and a recipient is typically like the two sexual roles and typically like male, physically and like like literally physically and materially like giving giving but you know the dick the cum

like it's a lot of giving and the feminine is kind of this receptive energy but in our own relationship it was like she was kind of the boss, dude. Like she kind of wore the pants in our relationship. I'm not proud to say that, but it's just kind of the facts. And something about like having sex was like a space for me to be like a bigger, more masculine energy and our dynamic and dude, it just threw stuff off, dude. I don't know how to say it.

Right, so you started being more masculine in the sack and she didn't like it? Exactly, dude. Exactly, dude. And you felt like, hey, like I need to be my full self to really feel fulfilled. And she was like, no, I need you to be smaller in this space.

And then you both felt kind of unseen or unfulfilled. Exactly. I mean, yeah, exactly. She never like said that like word for word, but that's pretty much energetically like what it was. No, she needed to talk about, that was the real issue. The issue wasn't the issue. It said she wasn't willing to talk about what the issue was

because she was so bottled up from the religiosity. Yeah. Did you know what you need to do? Get out this masculine energy and not saying it's a bad thing But just to cultivate that energy you need to go to the Mecca Lift some lift some gold done bells Boost your boost your lats dude. Oh the lats. Yeah, just get your lats fired up. I Try I do a lot of like body weight stuff.

That's sick. That's perfect. Dude, you do some squats out in the Venice sun. Your T is gonna be on fire, dude. Have you ever cried during sex? Me personally, I have not. Not opposed to an experience that touches me in that way,, I have not, not opposed to an experience that touches me in that way, but I have not.

All right. Thanks for calling, man. Thank you guys. You're a legend, dude. Dude, good instincts by you on the post-not clarity for those who wait till marriage. Cause that was like, That was the whole call. That was the whole call. was a whole call he totally had it

and Yeah, just waiting waiting for that, you know sconies experience that sconian this might be too optimistic I am kind of the of the opinion that you can have a good sex life With anyone if you like put enough effort into it You know But then sometimes if you don't, if a person doesn't like the other person enough, you're like, I'm just not gonna invest that much effort into this because I just don't feel it.

So it's a little chicken or the egg kind of thing. Do you think attraction has to be there though? I think so, but I think you can find new levels of attraction too, as you continue on with someone. So if you're attracted to ladies, you're a dude, what you're saying is you can, with any lady out there, you can form a good sexual relationship? Maybe not any lady, but like a lot of them. Yeah.

I think you can. Through hard work and communication? Yeah. And what's the hard work, like homework? The hard work is like opening both of you guys up enough to like find who the other person is and find like what your guys' real like underlying connection is.

And so I think it takes like, it takes time together, it takes trust, it takes experience, it takes time together. It takes trust. It takes experience. It takes all these things that, but then maybe you only do that with someone you are compelled by. So it's a little bit like tautological. That's not right. But it's a little bit like of a mutually reinforcing system.

Right. Or that's not quite it. But it's like, you gotta wanna fuck. Right. You have's not quite it. But it's like you gotta wanna fuck. Right. You have to be interested in boning. Yes. Interesting. I don't know if I believed what I just said.

I had a thought, but it escaped me. Maybe it'll come back. But it was pertaining to what you're talking about. But I don't even remember what it was. That you can find rhythm with anybody. Yeah. I don't know what the thought was. It's a good point.

It is funny with that, with, with boning, you know, it's like, especially just from a dude's perspective, it's you can be so horny and just be like craving, just boning, like you're just, I need to bone and then, and then you nut and then you're kind of, it's such a weird resetting of the brain where you're like, such a weird resetting of the brain where you're like, you're like, why was I so like, I was insane there for like an hour. Yeah, yeah, you can lose your mind.

And then, yeah. Well, act way different than you normally are. It's crazy. It is, yeah. I think it's kind of good. Yeah. I think it's a good, it's good to see that side of yourself.

As long as you're still considerate and you know, you know how to pull out of it. Yeah. Did Chandler Sinclair, be whole munch equals instant sexual harmony. I've experienced that. That's real. What do you think of them closing the San Onofre nuclear power plant, aka the giant boobs on the highway? Dude, so actually I rewatched Chernobyl recently and you know, I think nuclear meltdown is, you know, there's, I was actually, I also listened to a book on nuclear warfare and they called the devil scenario if a nuclear warhead hits a nuclear power plant. But I think that nuclear power these days is generally safe and it's also the cleanest energy we have. So I'm in favor of it.

I think we should build more nuclear power plants I've heard that what do you think? About power I Don't know it seems like I like what you're saying that I've heard arguments for nuclear and always been pretty compelled by it and it seems better than Like it's it's more realistic than going totally like wind and water powered and then it's it's not as bad for the environment as the older

methodologies. Yeah. So yeah, I'm I'm just gonna miss those. Are they tearing down the boobs? No, it's been down for a while, hasn't it? Oh yeah, nuclear waste. Yeah. Are we too aware? I think we've, there's gotta be a sweet spot, right? Between being totally unaware of externalities and then being too aware. Externalities in terms of like consequences from...

From just the way our world is run. Yeah, I mean, I think... There's just a lot of doom and gloom where people are like, you know, this is going to send us to our end. I'm like, probably. People say that all the time. I generally have an optimistic outlook. I think things tend to trend towards the positive over time and as humans, we just catastrophize everything.

And if the world does end, it ends. Yeah, exactly, I'm okay with it. I mean, we all die. I think I'm OK with dying now. Are you? I felt pretty good about it when I was on a plane ride. I was like, if I die, I'm OK. Yeah. I felt all right.

Yeah. It's the next frontier. It wasn't even like that I was like, oh, I'm ready for the next thing. I was just like, you know, I was like, you know, this whole thing. I put enough of myself out there. I'm ready for the next thing. I was just like, you know, I was like, you know, this whole thing. I put enough of myself out there. I'm good. I mean, don't you think it's just crazy that we're born and we're these things and we're here and we just normalize it so quickly and then we become miserable? Mm hmm.

It's insane. Yeah. Miserable, selfish and bitter. Yeah. When I was a kid and I used to go to bed and I used to insane. Yeah, miserable, selfish, and bitter. Yeah. When I was a kid and I used to go to bed and I used to pray, my prayers were so nice. I didn't ask for shit for myself ever. Now when I think about things, I'm like, God, please punish this other person who has slightly more than me and make sure I have more than them. When I was a kid, I used to pray, God, no more

wars. Please help the poor. make sure my brother and my parents are always okay. And then I'd go to sleep. Yeah. I was a good kid. Yeah. And then somewhere along the way, I started being a grubber. It's the human mind. It's insane. We're like, we're here. The mind's the problem. The humans are the problem. Yes, the human mind is the problem. And then we blame other things. We're like, we're here. The mind's the problem, the humans are the problem. Yes, the human mind is the problem. And then we blame other things. We're like, oh dude, it's the government or it's, you know, like the media. And I'm like, it's all us.

You're those things, you know? It's all, it's all, not always, but oftentimes it's just representative of what we are. Well, the fact that we're like conscious, we're aware of existing, and then you're conscious and I'm conscious, and we're two consciousnesses interacting with each other, and we're just like, yeah, we're here,

and there's a sun, there's a beach, and we're like, man, this sucks, that guy's an escalade. I don't, it's so sucks. That guy's an escalade. I don't. It's so stupid. The comparison is rough. It's so stupid. When you look at the big picture and everyone has their own misery,

it's just, then you just, in those times though, you just gotta go to the Mecca and do squats in the sun. That's, movement is good. I think about that though, like, even the hedonic treadmill of like, I was a virgin till I was 24. Yeah.

And then I started having sex, and then I started thinking I was like, cooler than I was. Yeah. Like, I started having sex, and then I started thinking I was like cooler than I was. Yeah. Like I've been good lately where like whenever I have sex, I go, dude, this is pretty cool I get to have sex. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it is.

Yeah. And then so many people call in and it's like, hey, it's not quite what I want or like, dah, dah, dah, dah, I'm like, you're there. Yeah. You get to, if you, in your life, get a boob in your mouth, That's sick.

You did it. You get a boob. You did it. You get a boob in your mouth. Dude. You did it. Yeah. And then you're gonna complain

about what you, you know, how it could have been this way or like, I wish I had more boobs or another boob or the boob was like, you have a boob in your hand. And you get to put your mouth on it. Boobs exist. Boobs are real. And then once in a while, someone shows you a boob and you get to just sit there and be like look at these boobs Yeah, and you get to hold them. Yeah, and then and then sometimes

Sometimes the person whose boobs you're touching Most the time hopefully all the time yeah, but I mean like they like that you're touching their boobs. Yeah. Boobs are so sick. They're so amazing. Yeah. And we're taking them for granted. I mean, when did human beings start taking boobs for granted? I don't know, but I'm on TikTok

and I'm just not seeing the love that I think should be there. That's why I like dogs, you know. A dog would never take that for granted. Dogs don't worry about how they look, what that other dog said about them, how they come off to other dogs. No, little dog, big dog, they're not like,

oh, I'm fat, oh, I'm short, oh, you know, my hair's falling out. They're just like, you see that pillow? It's about to get the business. Yeah. Yeah, I do. Dogs are the best. I'm about to rock that pillow's world.

Yeah, I know. It is, I have had that thought of like, of like, trying to step back and enjoy things a little bit more because, you know, my mind, you know, up until lately, I think I've been good at because you know my mind you know up until lately I think I've been good at you know being more present lately but you know for especially since I got into like out of college and pursuing comedy you're like what's the next thing what's the next thing and then it's like you know you get to do cool things and you're like but even when you're starting you go like the laugh factor and you'll be like,

maybe it's so cool to be like on that stage. Then you got on the stage and you're like, well, it's not, I'm not here enough or like, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, totally. And it's, and it's, and then you just realize, What is the point? You're like, am I always gonna be in this

not enough thing, like future thinking, you know, kind of like, kind of frustration or should I just take a, cause then you just eventually you just die. So I'm like, well, maybe I should just, you know, lately I've just been taking time during the day where I'll just go out into the backyard, even stoked to have a backyard and just lay, literally just lay. My dog will walk around me and I'll just look at the tree. I'll look at spiders and I'm like, dude, those exist and they

create webs. How sick is that? You know what I mean? 100%, cause I remember your place before. And I remember my place before, my place here. We're both in better places now. But there was times we were more stoked in the other place. Oh yeah, yeah. Cause it was just all what it was. We weren't thinking, well, what's the next place after this? I know.

And it's like so, in the comparison thing, we wouldn't even be aware of it if we weren't like looking on social media or whatever. I put it in my own head. Yeah, it's all in it, yeah. It's hard, I think it's part of life to get caught up in it, you know, and that's the kind of like hero's journey of it is to pull back out and find yourself. Yeah.

And, but I regret losing time. Yeah. Losing time not being myself trying to chase something. Yeah, but you know, it's like what you said, that's part of the journey. It's part of the journey and you know what? If I had found that thing I was chasing, that might have been cool too. Yeah., so it is what it is. You have to be you gotta make do with what is Yeah, but imagine too if you if you If you hadn't gone through that then you would have less appreciation for Where you're at now, I think yeah true true true double true But it's even like

Now now, you know, I guess back in, you know, years back, people are like, what do you want to do? I'm like, oh, I want to like, I want to have a TV show. I want to do movies and stuff or whatever. And I still obviously want to do those things, but now it's like, when you get that question, I'm like, I just want opportunities to act goofy. That's the main thing. It's just the ability to perform in a goofy way. That's all. Yeah, you've gotten it down to its purest thing, to its simplest, purest thing.

I'm with you too. It's like, that is the gift. That is the coolest part is to be silly. Yeah, just being silly. It's so fun. It is nice. And you know you'll watch like comedy movies and I'll watch like you know I watch like The Jerk with Steve Martin or whatever and that's what I love, the freedom he has to be a doofus. That's the best part. Went to my fantasy football draft in Utah this past weekend and we all watched McGroober.

Yeah, I mean dude. And the whole movie we were just dying. Every face he makes. Yeah. It's so funny. And when he's recruiting the guys back on the team, and he sees the big show, it's like, it's a stupid homophobic joke. But like the big shows kissing.

I think he said he'd take those jokes out now too. But like it is really funny. They cut to MacGruber's reaction. But it's just all so funny. Like just the seriousness he puts into it. This guy, can you get into standup comedy if you don't live in a city? Yeah, of course.

Yeah, there's a lot of people who did it that way. Major Beef Lord, is that what you're talking about? Yeah, he wants to start doing standup. Just do it, man. Yeah, just do it. Rural, start an open mic. Yeah, you can just go to a bar and be like, hey, I wanna do an open mic here.

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All right, let's get back to the show. Should we call someone else? Yo. What up? Yo, what's up man? This is Jake, what's up man? Um, how you doing? Hey man, how are you? I'm good. Oh, shit, what's up man? This is Jake. What's up man? How you doing? Hey man, how are you?

I'm good. Oh, shit. What's up? What's up, man? What's up, dude? What ails you? Yeah. So, I'm moving out to Santa Barbara.

I thought I was recording for a second. I'm moving out to Santa Barbara next week and it's not so much that I'm like asking big questions about what should I do. Even though I do have questions about like in the area, what would be good markets. Also though kind of like just mindset questions. So yeah, moving across the country. Never moved before. I'm 28 and it'll be the first time moving away from Michigan. I'm from Ann Arbor I'm open to chat talking shit about the Talking shit, but I'm not yeah, I'm just talking to you right now right Jake. No, you're trying to change a T I'm talking about my thing. Yeah, wait, you think is a recording I Couldn't pick up the voices

Wait, yeah Wait, Can you start over? What's your issue? I thought I heard Jake's voice first and I thought I heard your voice, Shad. I'm moving to Santa Barbara soon. Okay. Like next week. Yeah. And looking for jobs out there and yeah kind of nervous very excited about the move but moving in with my girlfriends and the first time we're living together. Yeah. Sick. So what's a is there an issue? My channel might well the

issue with moving in with her is we've been living together five years. The real issue with that, I want to go deep with it, is that I know for a fact she doesn't want to have kids. And we've had this conversation. We've been together for five years. And we aren't going to get married anytime soon. She's starting her master's program soon. I am just moving out there because it's a cool spot to like keep things moving with.

And we're very clear about that, but I do feel some type of way about that. I don't know. I guess that's just life, right? How do you feel? Dude, I mean, like some way in my stomach. Nervous or excited, depending if I want to be positive or negative about it. Well you brought the kids thing. You feel a certain way about moving?

Oh I'm in no type of position to have kids right? But it's kind of like setting goals. Or not setting goals but like I don't know like just because I'm not in position right now to have kids does that mean I should be like oh I'm not gonna have them Yeah, I don't think when do if you were single when do you think you'd have kids? Like if you weren't dating her, but you were just on your life trajectory When do you think you would end up having kids if I had to draw a line of sand? It would be like 35 which sounds old but just by they're not told but it just like the way medicine is going she like that 35 dude

then by the time they're 18 what is that I'm like just over 50 yeah wait how old are you now I'm 28 now yeah you got seven years to convince her how old is she but I mean I'm not trying to convince her right? Well I don't know. What I mean what are you gonna do? Do you want to have kids? I do want to have kids. I guess I right I got some time to figure it out. I thought that was the big rub is that I was a little distracted. He wants to have kids she doesn't. That's the big rub right? Yeah but I think he's She doesn't that's the big rub, right? Yeah, but I think he's also feeling some way about Or is it all just that you think there's this one big

Issue that you want to have kids. She doesn't have kids. Is that the big thing it makes it? That is an issue and by moving in together I realize that that conversation is gonna have to happen it's happened before But it's gonna have to be like a make or break that happens in the next year or so, right? The kids thing. For the next two years. I figure. I got seven. I'm not doing a great job here, but you know what,, it's so nice she loves you. You guys are living in Santa Barbara, it's a great place. People change their minds on a million things. You never know. If you guys have a good relationship otherwise,

I would go forward and figure it out together. And she could change her tune. Appreciate that. I do, yeah. Do you know- Are you stoned? Oh yeah, a little bit. Sorry about that. Where are you moving from? I thought there'd be like a screening or like a- No, you just go straight to us. What time is it where you live?

Currently it's 414. Ah, that's not bad. Six minutes early, dude. Yeah, I mean. Six minutes early. How often do you blaze? I mean, I blaze every day afterward. Does your lady know you blaze every day? She does.

She's not that stoked on it. She's not about it. But she's all right with it. She rocks with you on it? It's been, I mean, to be honest with you, I have some, some like, it's kind of less your multi-evils type deal. Yeah, I understand. And in a perfect world, I have that one under control as well, you know.

Well, so if she's willing, if she's willing to rock with you on that and she knows that where you've gotten to this point is growth and she has faith that you'll grow even more beyond that, I think you should return the favor with her be the rock that she's been for me yeah oh yeah is it fair then because she's the one that's out there starting a school program so I'm moving out there for her yeah move out there and be a good boyfriend. Oh yeah. What do you do for work? So that was my other part about it. I am like, currently I work, I just finished up a job doing print production, working in a warehouse doing like business cards and

brochures. Oh nice. I have a degree in simulation, animation, and gaming. Wow, sick. From the college over here. And there's not a lot of like industry for that, but I think in SoCal there's just hell of an industry for that. Dude, yeah. So I am kind of looking over there, but. Yeah, dude.

I don't know, that's a competitive and like, I know I have to be making money, true money over there. So I- Look man, it's normal to be scared. It's normal to be scared, but you got to believe you can do it on both fronts, on the relationship front and on the professional front. And if she makes you feel like you got a better shot at both, I think she's good for you.

Yeah, is it fair to put her as that like, I'm doing this for you because I do for me too. Is it fair to have her be that goal for myself? What? Like you're moving out there just for her? And I mean, because it's easy if it's for her, right? Like she's an amazing woman. I would do it if she wanted me to do construction, I'd do construction. What are you really worked up about?

Like you think you're just putting, I think you're just overthinking it. Santa Barbara's awesome. She sounds pretty awesome. It sounds like you want to try a new career. Changing locations could help jumpstart that. I would just go for it. You sound trepidatious. That's totally understandable. I would just get your head clear and just go for it. I don't know. Mike, I create ideas, laying tile. Do you know anybody that does contract work out there and is it a solid move to do that? That's my last question. I know, I just talked to a guy in Ventura,

which is like what, 45 minutes from Santa Barbara, who works in zoning and like development. So yeah, I know a guy out there. I don't know specifically to the tile thing. My stepdad kind of used to work in construction. He was a really good tile guy. So, yeah, I know some people who do it. But you've been just kind of like where it gets money out there.

That's OK. Thank you. Thank you, Jay. I appreciate you guys' time. I'm sorry for derailing. No, dude, you're a sweet guy. You really pulled it together. The charm came through at the end big time. Dude, yeah, I think you're gonna be fine. You're gonna be alright, man. You're just nervous. You'll be good. Make the move. I'm hella nervous. Yeah, is Santa Barbara sick? You know, go jump in the ocean, dude.

Yeah, the water's good for you. Yeah, get those negative ions on your hog and you'll find it. Are the surfers local? Are they aggressive? Is that just a movie trope or does that exist in real life? Depends where you go, but I'd say for the most part, you know, they won't be too aggressive

unless you steal their waves. Do you surf? All right, thank you. I don't, I mean I've surfed before. I live in Michigan currently. I was certain he doesn't surf. Just was asking. Dude, Santa Barbara's sick, you're gonna love it.

It's like the best place in the world to live. Yeah. And apply to like Activision or something, that sounds fun. Or Rockstar. If that's what you wanna do. Right. Thank you guys.

No rush. JC, why are you sure I don't say? No, I didn't mean it in like a judgemental way. I just felt like you were just asking more granular questions as a way to alleviate your anxiety, but they weren't really specific to what you were trying to do. Damn, that is hella accurate.

All right, thank you guys. All right, love you man. Jake, what's up dude? Yeah, so it was all over the place. Yeah, he was a little scattered. I've been there, man. I really related to it. I very much am like that.

He's just nervous. He's just nervous. She sounds like a good gal, man. He's lucky and I think he knows it. I think he... I really saw that there was a sweetness underneath it where he just, I think we hear a lot like, hey, don't put too much pressure on your partner. Don't do things just for your partner. Do them for yourself too. But the truth is,

people move all the time for their partner. That's very common. Yeah. Especially if you've been dating for a while. I think it's, you know, people usually just warn against it if it's like you go to college for like a girl or something. Yeah. Or a guy. Cause that usually doesn't end up well. But in this case where you're in your mid to late twenties. And you're serious with the person you guys, yeah.

Makes total sense. Yeah, and just like experience. Like just even if it doesn't work out, at least you get to go out there for total sense. And just like experience. Like just even if it doesn't work out, at least you get to go out there for like a year, see Santa Barbara, see one of the prettiest places ever. That's so true, man. You're going to Santa Barbara, like you're gonna be fine. It'd be another thing if she was, you know,

dragging you somewhere shitty. Dude, can we talk to that guy who was having issues with his folks? What up? You got Chad and JT on the line. Who's this friend? Hell yeah. Uh, my name is Peyton.

I'm, uh, from Florida. Manning? Longtime listener. Not Manning. No. What's going on? All right. I didn't know if you guys like it and stuff.

All right. Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I's going on? Alright. I didn't know if you guys liked it or not. So, my issues with my folks, they're just very egotistical.

And... Hold on. And, uh, yeah, so basically they're very egotistical. Uh, they overstep their boundaries a lot. Um, and then they just don't apologize for anything or like have any remorse for overstepping or crossing a boundary that like I've clearly set. And the like issue with it is that I'm gonna be getting married here in two just under two months now and I'm just wondering like how me and my fiance can go about like dealing with them like should we confront them basically or should we just let it ride and just like hold our boundaries firm I guess what

are your boundaries so that's a good question. How do I describe that? Basically, like, let me just go anecdotal. So for the groomsmen suits, I set up like a group code at men's warehouse for the dudes just to rent a suit because it's just cheaper for them and that way it's just easier. And like we made it clear that the dads are not going to be in the same color suit as the groomsmen. Like yeah you can do blue, you can do gray, you can do whatever color just not the black suit. And like we said it multiple times and then they texted me and said oh hey by way, we went ahead and just added Dad onto the men's warehouse group code just so that he can get the same suit And we're like, no, no, no, we clearly told you multiple times that like that's not happening. You can get it anywhere else and then

and then we like I tell them that they were wrong in doing that. And then they say, Oh, it's no big deal. You're making this bigger than it needs to be. But like, that's just an anecdotal thing. But like, we clearly set that boundary and then they just do it anyway. And then when I call them out for it, they kind of just gaslight and say that I'm overreacting. Right. They're there. I get mad at my folks about this sometimes. I'm like, you guys play, you guys are bullies sometimes, not like horrible, just human, but I'll be like,

you guys are bullies. And then you play victim when it gets flipped on you. Right. And it's like, they kind of want it both ways. Do you overall have a good relationship with your parents? Uh, I would say it was better when I was younger. Um, they so I don't They haven't specifically said it but Me and my fiance both have a feeling that They don't approve of our relationship, I guess.

And my theory on it is just because I was raised very Catholic and I'm pretty sure you were as well, J.T. I'm not like practicing Catholic, a practicing Catholic anymore, I would say. I'm still very Christian, still very religious, but a big reason why is because I just like moved out of the house and just haven't been going, and my parents think that my fiance is the one that is like controlling me in that, when she's actually very Christian, is

actually the one leading me to stay in the faith. But yeah, so because of that, they just hold a... I feel like they hold a grudge against us, and so like, it's been pushing me away from them recently. And yeah, I don't know if I should just confront them and be like, hey, this is how I'm feeling. But every time, I feel like every time I confront them on anything, they just gaslight and avoid. And yeah, play the victim card. Who's paying for the wedding? Her parents.

Yeah, and... Yeah. And well, what's going to make, if you stand up for your parents and you're like, Hey, if you wear that suit, you can't sit at the family table. You can't be in the photos. Like, like, would, would that make you feel good or like, what's going to make you feel worse doing that and playing super hard ball with your parents or kind of letting them run roughshod and just kind of letting them have their way with things like that, which to be totally honest, is kind of more on the peripheral of the wedding. It's not like really interfering. It's just kind of them encroaching a bit,

but I would say it's not like, uh, a hundred percent Yeah, yeah, yeah and like that's just one like example there's other ones where like I mean it's all been revolving around the wedding just now just because like that there's just been recent but another recent one was where we Have people that we invited and we have people we didn't invite to the wedding obviously just because like there's only so many heads that her

parents can pay for whatever so we set the notion of like all right we're gonna do it extended family up to this point and none of like those extended family like siblings or anything like this is this is where it's and then my mom went out of the way out of her way to invite her grandparents siblings and told them to make arrangements when they never consulted with us and when I when she told me about that months later, I said, oh no, they're not invited actually. Because we didn't do that on my fiance's side. So it just wouldn't be fair. And then my mom basically told me that I have to be the one to contact those people.

Tell them they're not invited. That's funny. How does your fiance feel about all this? Oh, I mean, you know, pissed. Well, yeah, and so your loyalty's gotta be to her. Yeah, and she's the, my fiance's the level head one where the reason why I'm calling is just because she's been telling me just stay just stay calm, you know,

whatever, but I'm a very like, if somebody does me wrong and I have clear evidence that they did me wrong, I feel the need to like confront them and be like, hey, you're a jackass for doing this. But like at the same time as my folks, I don't want to be disrespectful. You know what I mean? So, and yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, you know, I don't know. I fight with my parents. I would yell at them for this. I don't know if it would help anything. And it's, and I don't feel like a hundred percent good about it after. I feel a hundred percent good about it immediately afterwards. But then when I look back on it, I've said some pretty hurtful, hurtful things to both my folks. And yeah, I don't know.

Do I feel good that I stood up for myself and that I feel like I gave it as good as I got it? Yeah, but then sometimes I'm not so sure I did. Sometimes I think I'm being ungrateful and I'm not being understanding enough for all the love and support they have given me. It's always complicated with your parents. I think the hard thing is weddings, everyone loses their mind and everyone, even like when we got pregnant, both my parents kind of lost their mind in their own way. Like everyone, these moments, they build everyone's psychology and everybody goes bigger. If you're in a family like mine,

it sounds like your family is kind of similar and then everyone starts wanting to take more control or assert more influence. And that's just how they react to stressful situations. Even things that are positive, it's still stress inducing. And everyone's like, oh, we wanna do a good job. And then they start meddling too much and interfering and not listening.

And then it can be very, very upsetting. But I think the, the best thing you can do is just be a rock for your lady and just, just try to treat your parents like children. I wouldn't fight with them. I would mostly just ignore them, try to keep their role in the wedding as small as possible, but understand that they're going to step outside of that a certain amount, but you just got to not let it throw you and your lady off.

And that's like your job is just to be steady and to be, and to be positive no matter the child your parents are trying to bring out of you. I like that. Yeah, that helps a lot easier Easier said than done. But you can do it. You can do it and you'll feel fucking good about yourself when you do, man.

If you can be a steady rock for your chick and not let your parents fuck with your head, that's a man right there. I love that. And then I don't want to stay too long, but one more thing is that I'm very close to my... I got four siblings. I'm the oldest I'm the first one to move out. They also live with my parents. Um

My siblings will call me quite frequently I wouldn't say every day, but they'll call me quite frequently and say all the Shit talking that my parents do behind me and my fiance's back about me and my fiance damn So it's like it's like I don't like did they give you specifics Yeah, so like my my brother that's right under me is moving out and He went to tour some apartments and whatnot. He actually just got Like a real job, I guess, electrical like job. And so he's trying to move out now. He went to tour some places and then he

was saying, oh yeah, the place that my parents live in kind of is like a, I guess you would say like a rich people area. So they just like put a tax on all the apartments. were rich i knew they were rich right away yeah you know and so uh they um my brother was telling him oh yeah payton was telling me that this area just like puts a tax on everything just because of like the area which is just a fact and my mom had told him don't listen to a word he says he doesn't know anything about finances. It's like, how could you say that? But maybe I don't, but I don't know. It's weird when you're like, you're my parents, you should want me to be ripping. Why are you being competitive with me and trying to like make me small? Yeah. It might be a sign you're doing good. You might be just doing really well.

You might just be doing really well. You don't got haters. You're doing something wrong. Yeah, exactly. You're doing so well, you turn your own parents into haters. Yeah, I love that. Just ignore it. With the haters, you know, I was

keeping an arrow for my lady. Yeah, just a bro. and then the last thing, my fiance is so dope, bro. For my graduation from college, she bought me tickets to come see you guys when you guys are here in Tampa in February. We had a great time. Oh, sick.

It was dope. You're out in Tampa? Yeah. Dude, I love Tampa. Yeah, bro. Yeah, I think JT gave great advice. Stay strong and steady. And then with their shit talking, you know, that's that's just parents do that. I think, you know, they could be baiting you, you know, I don't know, but just don't.

I'd say just ignore that. They might be wanting to get a rise out of me. So then if I don't give them that rise, then they don't have anything but just don't, I'd say just ignore that. That's true, they might be wanting to get a rise out of me, so then if I don't give them that rise, then they don't have anything to go off of. Yeah. Yeah, they're just rocking with their egos. And they're just like, oh, I have to feel bigger than everyone, even if it's my own kid.

Yeah, and if you don't react to it, then it's, if they keep doing it, they're gonna feel stupid. And then just start start ripping at finance to, you know, did start investing like GameStop and. Tell them to suck it. They love you, they're doing the best they can. You just detach with love, just detach.

Just that's their shit. You got your own awesome life going on. You're not defining yourself by how they feel. And they're're gonna be missing out if they keep acting the way they were acting Hell yeah Thank you guys. Yeah, dude stay bronze out there. Yeah, are you tan? No, I'm not But I just I just hit it. I'm on your parents side now. I did chest and trice today. What's up?

I just hit the gym. I just got back. Did chest and trice today. That's good. Good guy. It is a massive so. Dude, you got pump? I do have a pump right now.

Yeah, dude, I mean. Dude, I mean, best thing you can do is just flex on your parents. Keep getting a pump. Get super tan, dude. That is funny. I swear to God, that's a good point. I think you should get tan, work out, and then when you have a pump and you're tan just

once a week, send a photo of your parents shirtless of you in the mirror. With no context and just keep sending that to them once a week. And then say, send a text and be like, weirdly, my dick's bigger. No, thanks to you, dad. Yeah, I think I actually, I swear, I think that's a good idea because then you'll be having fun with them and it'll make you take them a little less seriously. Once a week, send them a tan shirtless photo of yourself and never send any words with it. Just keep sending the photo once a week. Yeah. Send like a photo of you shirtless and then Brad Pitt in Fight Club and then be like, see a difference?

Cause I don't. I love that bro. I'm gonna do that. Yes, send it to him today. Send him a shirtless. I will, I just think a pump pic. I'm gonna send it around. Yeah, send it to both your parents.

Hell yeah. Yeah, it sounds like you're doing great and they're just jealous so feed off that jealousy and don't you know let them have their tantrum and just stay strong like a hard cock. You're a hard, yeah dude, you're fucking rigid. All right, I'll see you later Peyton Manning. Praise, thank you boys, love you. Love you too man. Weddings are stressful. Yeah, it's sick that the Mannings will call into the pod

too with their issues. Great guys. Just still don't know if it was Peyton or Eli. Yeah. Dude, I gotta send you guys this photo to put on the pod. Is it you after a pump? Nah. Although I do have a good one of those too. Do you take shirtless photos of yourself?

I feel like you don't. I don't. So I think this is one of those live photos where you can see us move. This is me and my buddy Trevor after a game of beer died. That was pretty intense. We were playing against each other.

There was a lot of screaming. Wow. That's sick. You guys are about to make out. It was close to that. Have you guys ever made out? I think we've kissed He said I was a lot of the guys said I was being too cocky and Argumentative, but I was just trying to get in people's heads. But the thing about Trevor is he's such a dark demon lord

He just feeds off the negativity and makes him play better. Mm-hmm. He was like super drunk He didn't even know he was catching the die. It would bounce and he'd look And then he would look and go, oh, and be surprised it was there. He was in an unreal zone. That's sick. But afterwards me and him just brought all that intensity to bear and just got really close to each other's faces.

That's beautiful. It was raw. He beat it, they skunked us the game before that. So we won this one, but he beat us the game before with our buddy Paul. It was raw. They skunked us the game before that. We won this one, but he beat us the game before with our buddy Paul. Paul played phenomenal. They had really good little skits that they were doing with each other.

They kept ringing each other on the phone, go, hey dude, is this Paul? Is this Trevor? Time to dial in. And then they would hang up. Nice. And they were just shooting lasers. Beer die's so fun.

But they beat us 11-0. I had a naked zip line afterwards. Did you really? Yeah, I'll show it to you. Dude, that's sick. That's punishment? Look at this. Is that the most broke back thing you've ever seen? Is that straight broke back? There's so much intensity. Dude, play it one more time, Jake.

Ha ha ha ha. Beautiful. That's awesome. Yeah, it was raw. Thanks for letting me show that. Well, that was a fun pod. That was fun. Good stuff, guys. Thanks for letting me show that. That was a fun pod. That was fun. Good stuff, guys. Thanks for calling in. Thanks for calling. Chat, thank you guys as always. You guys are the best.

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