Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 368 - The Telekinesis Bros
Episode Date: November 14, 2024Today is another classic solo ep with just the bros recording from New York City. Is a grilled cheese only supposed to be cheese and bread? JT's huge beef of the week is adding beef to a grilled chees...e which essentially makes it a different sandwich. We talk about our travels on tour and the wild airplane experiences we've had recently. We end with telekinesis and how to communicate with your body. IF YOU ENJOYED THIS EP, HIT THE LIKE AND LEAVE A COMMENT to BOOST THE STOKE ALGO! Thanks to Melrose Podcasts for letting us use the studio while on the road! We are live streaming a Fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://shop.chadandjt.com/ Come see us on Tour! CHICAGO & Montana are the next stops! Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Thanks to Our Sponsors:Chubbies Shorts: The Best Clothing Company. Get 20% off today when using promo code GODEEP20 at checkout when ordering from https://www.chubbiesshorts.com HIMS: Fix your hair loss problem today with HIMS! Get your first online visit free when going to https://www.hims.com/godeep MagicMind, Easy Rider, Botanic Tonics
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Alright guys, live from New York.
It is the Going Deep with Chad and JT podcast.
I'm here with my compadre, Jean Thomas.
What up?
Boom clap, Stokers.
And we are here in Melrose podcast.
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Shout out to Abby and Ari, our buddies who own it. Hell yeah. Stoked to be here. How are you doing? I'm
good dude you know I'm just waking up we're on New York Times so I'm a I'm a
few hours back. Yeah it's 630 a.m. technically it's 930 here but for us it's
630 mm-hmm so but we're bringing the Stoke. Yeah and I'm not bitching because Technically it's 9.30 here, but for us it's 6.30.
But we're bringing the stoke. Yeah, and I'm not bitching,
because there's like Marines and school teachers
and early morning radio hosts who have to wake up early.
Right, Howard gets up at like 3.34.
Animal.
I guess now he records from his place.
I don't know what his schedule is,
but he's still getting up early.
Yeah, I don't even talk about those legacy media guys
anymore.
Right.
Legacy media is out.
They're so pesé.
Yeah, dude.
It's all about podcasting.
It's podcasting.
The world has made it clear what they're into
and what they want.
Yeah.
I know, because we were vying for,
we were trying to get a show on CNN.
That would have been cool. Yeah, but our agents were like
What are you doing? What was like chatting JT review waves something like that? Yeah, well that was it. Yeah
I don't know why I said something like that. I know what the pitch is
Chad JT review waves on CNN and we can have
Jake Tapper
Give kind of the forecast.
He writes like real books.
Does he really?
About like, about like a Secret Service guy who's like solving a, uh, a murder that happened.
Fiction?
I think so.
Jake Tapper?
I believe so.
Let me look it up.
Wow.
That's why he was gonna be so great on the show is we're like, you're a friggin' Renaissance
dude.
Yeah.
Man. on the show is we're like you're friggin Renaissance dude yeah man but it seems
like they're just they're being bled right now no Chris Cuomo
yeah look at all these books he wrote no wow Jake Tapper does that mm-hmm
Hellfire Club all the demons are here that guy got badass names. Damn. He's not messing around dude. Does he train? To write?
No like does he do like Navy SEAL training? Oh probably. Is he a veteran? He's rich. Damn. He
might be. Yeah he is a veteran. He's a Navy SEAL. Dude he wrote he wrote the outpost, they made a movie out of it with a Jake Tapper wrote that?
Oh, Bloom and S Eastwood and some other dudes.
The same one?
Yeah, dude, he's, oh wait.
A different Jake Tapper?
No, it's the same Jake, it's gotta be the same Jake Tapper.
Yeah, it's the same Jake Tapper. Do be the same Jake Tapper. Yeah, it's the same Jake Tapper.
Do you see the clip of him where, you know,
on election night, they're looking at the map
and it's like, here's like where the votes are coming in.
And he's like, so where did Kamala outperform Joe Biden
in the country?
And the guy goes nowhere.
And he's just looking at the camera and he's like didn't outperform or she didn't outperform him anywhere.
Yeah it was a rough night.
Let's go to commercial.
Real ass whooping.
A historic beatdown.
Historic.
It really was.
Just historic.
No one's ever gotten beat worse.
I mean he got more obviously he got more
popular votes than it since then any Republican since 88 insane it's funny
too I like how um like all the all the chicks I know in LA were trying to blame
dudes oh yeah and I'm like 52% of white women voted for him. It's the third time
in a row he's won the majority of white women. I'm like you're in this with us.
Yeah. Don't don't be blaming the fellas. We only outvoted you on him 7%. It's
like nothing. Classic females. We get into the same college. Well it's like you
know you're talking to someone about it and she said that no one hates women more than women she did
tell me that I was I was talking to one of our gal friends and we were going
back and forth on it yeah maybe it's true I mean does no one hate dudes more
than dudes I don't think dudes hate dudes except maybe there's a beef between
like Brett Baer and Jake Tapper.
I can be hard on guys at times.
Yeah.
You know, I've heard some famous comedians
only like to hang out with girls.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
But you know when people take people on the road,
like for openers, they take gals most of the time.
Yeah, that's true.
Which I get, you want feminine energy around,
so nice to hang out with a girl.
Yeah. That guy Cole I just met, I liked him. Which I get, you want feminine energy around, it's nice to hang out with a girl. Yeah.
That guy Cole I just met, I liked him.
You a good guy?
Yeah.
I wasn't hard on him.
No, you weren't competitive with him
and like trying to put a ceiling on his-
I mean when he shook my hand I did pull it,
you know, just to like test him a little bit.
But- That's Trump.
And he pulled me back.
So-
That's nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. When a guy will test you. mean, yeah, you try to pull that shit in New York and
It doesn't play the same way in LA. No, these are real people out here in LA. You'll pull his arm off
Near they're like they do I've deal with that every day on the subway. Mm-hmm. Okay carry my bike
Yeah
I carry my bike. Yeah.
I carry my bike.
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Dude, I have a hot take? Yeah
This is scorching hot El Scorcho
Restaurant grilled cheeses. Mm-hmm always suck. Mmm any grilled cheese
where you add a
meat other than bacon I'm talking like
brisket or
Good, it's crap. What about turkey?
Crap just leave it and don't do six kinds of cheeses with the like we're doing the Gouda
And we got the camembert of already a hard. I'm like just do it normal
and we got the camembert. Havarti.
Havarti, I'm like just do it normal.
Just do like either cheddar or American,
two pieces of bread and the cheese, it's perfect.
It's better when it's thin and simple.
You get these freaking overstuffed grilled cheeses
with you know, pork belly in it, it's too much.
Do you think it's so simple that they overcomplicate it? Because
I'm a chef. I need to be creative. I need to make this my own. And you're like, no,
just stick to the formula. You know, get some Wonder Bread, get some Kraft cheese and just
lay it on. Just do it like that. And just do it, do a white belt move with black belt skill.
Just give me a basic grilled cheese,
but do it with all your years of training in the execution.
But don't add a bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
It's classic.
I'm right there with you, man.
Brisket on a grilled cheese, it's no good.
It looks too much.
No.
You're like, ugh,
you just feel like you're gonna break out.
Grill, when you get a grilled cheese,
you want a treat.
You want something where you're biting into it,
you're like, or you're ordering it,
you're like, this is kinda like late night,
I want a grilled cheese, this is like midday.
Typically it's not, unless it's like,
typically it's not a unless it's like,
typically it's not a full meal, I would argue. Right, it's more of an in-between meal.
Yeah, but then they try to make it a big thing.
Like you had a chicken Caesar for lunch,
you can have a porterhouse for dinner.
What's gonna carry you there?
Yeah, it's like I can't just I can't just do like a Caesar I
Can't just for the day have a Caesar and then a bone-in tomahawk. I need to have a grilled cheese in between
It's a nice day Is there anything better than a bone-in tomahawk?
It's the coolest looking thing in the world like when you see it just sitting in the cold fridge. You're like whoa
Mm-hmm, which part of the what kind of beast cow gave
us that yeah do you eat bonings I love a good boning nice Kansas City baby where
you from I'm from Connecticut that's right what part Southbury so right next
to Newtown it's a really fun way to say it at parties Newtown's like that Sandy
Hook area where you live Ah, cool. Congrats.
Were you living there when that went down?
Yeah, I was in high school.
Damn.
Oh, Jesus.
Sorry about that.
Well, thanks for...
Bringing out the spirits.
Yeah, thanks, dude.
I told you that's my party trick.
That's crazy.
Are you okay?
I'm, you know, I'm not over it still, to be honest.
You got a nice set of hair, though.
Thank you, man.
That's what's really kept me in the game.
Yeah, you get me.
Tough to feel down when you...
Got a good head of hair, yeah.
Nice, big, and voluminous like that.
Yeah.
It's good.
Anyways.
You grilled cheese.
Yeah, dude.
Back at it. I mean,
how much butter do you like on it?
A lot. Do you like mayo?
Mucho, my tequila. I'll do a little mayo, but I'm telling you,
we're starting to deviate. I love mayo though.
Put a little mayo on there. I I'm more averse to
the extra middle parts. do you like sharp cheddar?
I'll do a sharp cheddar, but I like a basic. I want it basic you want Kraft singles the Kraft singles sounds good on Wonder bread
I liked what you were doing there. Yeah, you made it as basic as possible sourdough. It's gonna be illegal pretty soon
I'll do a sourdough, but let keep it simple. No just just just I like a
wheat. But I mean you gotta you gotta spruce it up a little bit. I do I mean I
get that you want to you want to put your stamp on it but I think what makes
it good is keeping it base. I mean when I make a grilled, I do five kinds of cheeses.
I put roast beef in there.
Is that even a grilled cheese anymore?
Isn't that just a roast beef sandwich?
My dog?
I think we're veering into that territory.
Oh, I thought you'd be on my side.
That's where I'm at.
It's not a grilled cheese anymore
if you stick meat in there.
Now it's a meat sandwich. It's a grilled cheese and
Yeah, it's a grilled brisket sandwich would you would assume would have some cheese on it. Mm-hmm
That that really
It's really to me about keeping things
defined right
It's important. Have you made grilled cheese for your children yet?
It's important. Have you made grilled cheese for your children yet?
No.
Do they eat grilled cheese?
They can eat grilled cheese.
Yeah.
They eat sandwiches.
You just cut it up into little cute little pieces.
Right.
That's a good thing.
How much of a grilled cheese can they eat?
Oh, probably a half.
Half.
Half each.
Yeah.
If they're hungry.
They can eat like a whole steak if they're hungry.
Do they get picky yet?
Yeah. Yeah. They'll have food aversions
It can be tough for a couple days. They don't want anything mm-hmm
you just eat like and and
My lady will she she really will be like no we need to make them like a full meal
So it'll be like three courses, and she's really like
Creative about it not creative, but like you know she puts a lot of thought into it
and so we'll have like sweet potatoes and then like
Broccoli with like some cheese on it minced up over here, and then like I'll cook up some salmon
It's like a real meal yeah, and then my daughter will just grab her to throw the whole thing on the floor right and
Then but it's important. They need to learn how to eat. I'm like I know but sucks
Yeah
There are you have they tried are you gonna give them like McDonald's or anything? They've done a little fast food
I I'm a little bit more the stickler about the health stuff where they were eating like the Kraft mac and cheese
And I was like, that's poison right and then um
She's like hey, can you go buy more? I was like I won't buy it
I was like you can feed it to him, but I'm not gonna buy it
I was like so it's just like and I mean I travel enough
I was like just you don't have to go mac and cheese when I'm gone, right right right
Yeah, that's a big topic nowadays
My son's turning into a bully a little bit really he punks his sister
She was more the alpha early and now he's kind of
He'll like knock her off things or take stuff from her
She's so sweet. Like if I
open my eyes she'll give me a hug and like she shares, but he doesn't do none of that.
But I love both sides of it. I love that she shares and has like an instinct for kindness
and I like that he is like will cry and then laugh and then like take and just seems like
a real animal.
Does he give you big hugs?
He does not as much.
If he gets hurt, she's the more of the huggy, cuddly one.
Mm-hmm.
Do you think it'll keep vacillating between the two?
Yeah, they switch personalities every couple weeks.
Interesting.
Have you heard about child development stuff?
At what point do they kind of lock into a personality?
I've been talking to our neighbors and stuff about it,
and they're like, dude, they kind of don't. One? I've been talking to like our neighbors and stuff about it and they're like dude they kind of don't
They're like they're like one of our kids had the same personality throughout the other kid was changing all the time
They're like even his face changed like he would just look like a different person after a couple years interesting
Do you think that's through like evolution or whatever?
Development testing out different things to kind of get more what they want
That's interesting probably that's I think that's a good theory.
I don't know if it's that exactly,
but I think that's a good theory where it's really just about seeing what's most
effective.
That seems to me like with birth order psychology,
that seems to me maybe early on, let's say you're, yeah,
I'm the youngest of five, so I think,
as opposed to my oldest brother, who's the first one,
probably in order to get more love or whatever,
resources, food, whatever, maybe not food,
but like, you, you, you,
Attention.
Attention, you adjust your personality, you know, and if you're the fifth child, you're
obviously going to do it a different way than the first.
Yeah.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
And then some people do it being like high achieving, some people do it by being like
a good hang, you figure out, and then maybe it stops working, you're like, oh, I got to
kind of reorder how I do this.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wonder.
It's tough. They they're so little but I
definitely see them like I do think my daughter knows she gets more stuff like
more attention because she'll be so sweet like she'll do this little bashful
face for sure and then yeah my son probably knows like if he's like Then I'm like, oh, what do you need? What do you need man? Right? But yeah, I think they're probably playing me. I
Mean they are your kids. Yeah
That's hilarious. I'm on to you. Do you have out this? This is a new new vest
You're gonna wear that at the show tonight?
I am, and then this will come out after I do it.
I'm giving it to my brother for his birthday.
Is he in town?
No, but I'm gonna see him on like Monday or Tuesday.
His birthday is the 17th.
Nice.
He's a Scorpio?
But I'm gonna wear it before then. Is that what that is?
Yeah, I think so.
I'm not sure what the...
Are you able to look that up, Scorpios?
I'm a Scorpio. You just had your birthday.
Yeah, I get a lot of flack for being a Scorpio. You know,
you tell any female, they're like, what's your
sign? I'm like, I'm a Scorpio. They're like, oh, you must be really kind of vindictive and
controlling. And I'm like, hey, how about you you fuck yourself? Tell him what's up? Yeah?
Damn oh you and my brother scorpios you guys are probably the two least vindictive guys. I know yeah
We're both very unscorpio. Yeah, I'm a Leo rising. I think I identify with that more
I wonder what your brother's rising sign is if I had to guess I'd probably say a Pisces. Oh
Rising sign is if I had to guess I'd probably say a Pisces. Oh
My brother listens, I wonder if he's driving around like that's not I'm not a water sign. I'm not a one It's not right. No water sign. Fuck you. He could get mad about that
Yeah, maybe it's more of a fiery. I don't know. He has that in him
Passionate guy, but he's me rocking this
Well, so we went to it we were
For your birthday performing we were in Pittsburgh. Mm-hmm or on your birthday. How's your b-day?
It's good
Flew into Pittsburgh we had a show that was fun stay in the Airbnb
Wasn't nice. It wasn't wasn't that nice
Just standard, you know,. I didn't really do anything.
You're traveling.
Traveling did my thing.
We celebrated a little bit the Sunday before.
My girlfriend and I,
what did we even do?
She made some food.
I think she made steak and broccolini.
Beautiful. And then we just played do or she made some food I think she made steak and broccolini beautiful and
then and then we just played pin the tail on the donkey really yeah that's
fun yeah I'm the one I pinned the tail she wanted to pin the tail on me but I
was like not this week okay yeah that's how we play. It's like you guys are the donkey. Yeah, typically
I'm the donkey. She pins the tail on my ass, but I was like not this week babe.
It's my birthday. I'm gonna pin the tail on your ass and it got it got wild. Happy
birthday. Yeah, I hope her parents aren't listening cuz it got pretty wild
But yeah, then I think oh, you know what I did do it just I
Do I just love going on runs now you big yeah prepping for the marathon prepping for the I love runs
I did I did my first 10-mile air that Sunday. I did 11 miles
What's a Tuesday on Sunday I love it that's not
the one where you oh that was we talked about that on the other one so you did
your first how to go did the first time I felt sick after I ran too hard do we
talk about this I think we did yeah but I did 11 miles this Sunday and I felt great.
It's the ultimate antidepressant.
You just shed any anxiety, any negative feelings,
that you sweat them out and you just leave them right on the trail.
And for the rest of the day you're just buzzing and you're like, dude, I could do anything.
This is amazing. Life is awesome.
So I love it. I think I'm gonna try to run on the Hudson today.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
Of the cities you've run in, which has been your favorite?
Um, I mean, honestly's still LA. Ran Pittsburgh, ran Spokane. They're nice but
there's I you know I ran to the ocean. That was pretty... From your place? Yeah.
Oh that's nice. That's pretty special yeah. That's cool. Ran to Marina del Rey and
then just looked out over the ocean turned right back around. But we'll see
how the Hudson goes. Maybe I'll see like a Captain Sully thing or something.
I don't know.
I just, the guy next to me on the airplane
was watching that.
Captain Sully?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
What a weird pic.
Yeah, while on the plane?
Yeah.
What airline did you fly?
I flew Southwest coming home from Pittsburgh
and I flew Delta coming out here.
So he was on your Delta flight he's watching?
No, on Southwest.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, I was gonna say.
No, it wasn't even part of their movies.
Like he had it up on his iPad.
Yeah, I would say interesting move by Delta
to put that on their list.
That or flight.
Dude, I've, yeah, Air Force One, I was like, let's do this.
Yeah, Air Force One would be sick.
I just started hitting guys.
Yeah, you're just, you just looking for your exit points.
Not gonna leave my family.
Dude, on my flight home from Pittsburgh,
on my flight home from, what's up, Abby?
On my flight home from Pittsburgh,
I'm sitting there, the guy next to me,
I'm coming down, he's like, do you wanna sit here?
He seemed like excited, I was like, yeah, sure, why not? We out of seats. I'm like I gotta sit in the middle get in there dude
He's coughing and blowing his nose. Oh the whole time
And then I'm just in there I start
I'm just like so mad. I'm like, dude. I'm going home to see my kids. We have to leave in two days
I'm like you're gonna this guy's gonna ruin my whole life and get me sick. Yeah, and I'm just sitting there
I start going like this
You son of bitch. I'm shaking my head now. I'm like making it obvious and then he just
And then after like 30 minutes I go are you sick? Yeah, and he pulls out his headphones
He's like what I go are you sick. He's like no no no I a Tickle in my throat. Yeah, I'm like hell of a tickle
I'm like, why don't you put on a mask and he's like, I don't have one he goes. Do you have one?
No, I'm not sick. Yeah, and then just that was it and
then he just kept coughing and
Drinking water, but he was he was like hocking up along we land. I have a connecting flight in Vegas again on the flight in Vegas
Sitting there Southwest guys like is anyone in that seat? I'm I know another just really jolly sweet-looking guy
Yeah, he sits down he starts coughing yeah
Then I'm like oh my god, so after like 25 minutes the only way I can make myself feel better
I just go my hair you sick
He's like no I got a tickle in my throat same same thing different guys same story two guys in a row
both flights
Did they recline their seats I was wondering about that no they didn't they were very polite that way yeah
They're like I don't recline my seats. I got no problem if you go to the bathroom five times
I was like I know but you have Ebola
You literally have the Ebola virus and then
To do yesterday my uber driver was coughing a lot. I was like dude is everyone just sick
Yeah, and then on my flight to New York
this was more serious and not just like me bitching but like in the row in front of me a
Lady just starts going. Oh my god, sir. Wake up. Wake up, sir, sir, sir, and then
The flight attendants come down to like we have a medical emergency
Is there a doctor dude in front of me black dude in like his 60s or 70s?
Which is out which is like
Kind of time would not respond like this two doctors roll up
one of them was a cardiologist so they like dominated the other doctor the
other doctor just kind of slunk away yeah cardiologist on top doc yeah and
then um the guy finally just popped up and say I'm fine really and the doctor
was like what you were like unresponsive do you take medication are you diabetic
guys like no is that you take any medicines medicines I took as I as a quill is equal is equal yeah yeah and
like four of us like the whole plan was paying attention but like us around him
were staring guys like sweating he looked bad he's like I'm totally fine
yeah and the doctor was like let's uh let's do blood pressure they had the
thing they tested me he's like 120 over 75 like he's fine and then we just moved
on really mm-hmm but he looked bad like I
was like I wanted to tell you that hey man you should go get like checked out
and so because he was sweating a lot but I don't know he had a sweater on so it's
tough to tell but yeah that's interesting when people do that when
they're you think they're like dying and then they like they're just like no I'm
fine and it's like I you would think in that situation because you caused such a, you know, alarming situation for everyone, you'd be
like, okay I'll get off the flight and get checked out. Because everyone's just
gonna be worried about you now. It was, he just woke up, he was like, for like a
couple minutes they were like, sir, sir. And then, I don't know if they physically
grabbed him, they were just talking at him, but he popped up and then he's like yeah, I'm good, and we're like okay
Yeah, we're like we're about to land the plane. Oh, so this was like mid-flight. This was in the air
Oh, I thought this before he took off. No we were in the air
I was like I was when it was happening. I was like oh, dude. We might just I've never been a part of that
I was like this might be one of those medical things where they got to bring it down
Yeah, yeah, and he just landed did he just get off just fine. Yeah, I'd like we just walked off and I don't think he
He might not even he it might not even be a story for him, right? Maybe the Z equal hit him so hard
That's what I was like. It does knock you out pretty good
Yeah, but I don't think I take them here and there but they they don't, I don't think they'd knock me out so much
that I'd be unresponsive.
But I'm also not, you know, in my 60s.
Yeah, he was a little bit older too.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm fine.
He had the lady freaking out.
The dude next to me was like,
hey, he wasn't moving, I was like, oh, geez.
And then, I was watching how to train your dragon.
Oh. Jeez. Yeah. And then, uh, especially how to train your dragon. Oh,
it's good movie. It's a great movie. Soundtracks killer. Damn. Yeah.
Dude, the, um, I know we had this debate with, uh,
Rusty and Willie D but person in front of me did not recline their seat. Person next to me in front full recline. I was like I looked over at her I'm like
you gonna take this shit? I was like this is bullshit. You're allowed to recline your seat.
No I think it's I think it's I think it's I think it's I think it signifies
what's wrong with society.
What do you think's worse, being sick on a plane
or reclining your seat?
Reclining your seat.
Yeah, full recline.
You have no respect for your fellow human being.
I would never go into war with someone like that.
But someone can come on the plane with a bowler
and it's just like, hey, they gotta get where they're going.
They gotta travel.
They gotta get to where they're going
But I see someone recline their seat. I look at them and I'm like I would never go into battle with you
You toss me in front of the front line
Just so you could be comfortable in the in the in the in the foxhole. That's not true I would be great in combat with you. I would just I would just want to be relaxed when I'm out there. So
Combat with you. I would just I would just want to be relaxed when I'm out there, so
Bring a pillow and be in a reclined seat while I double machine gun the enemy
It's just being like they were in like a tank
Like fully reclined. Yeah, you know
You don't fury with a shy loverover, on the way! You just be like, you need to be fully reclined. Yeah, on the way!
I'd have my headphones in.
Little food, little sandwich.
Norman, come on! You gotta shoot the Nazis!
It's not right! You gotta shoot the Nazis!
They're here to kill you!
They're here to kill you!
You gonna let them kill me? Do your job.
That was good.
Thanks, I like that movie.
Have you seen the deleted scene about his backstory?
Norman?
The Brad Pitt character.
No, what's his backstory?
He had like a great girlfriend.
He's like, she's the sweetest girl in the world.
She made me pie and she believed in God
and she saw me as more than the devil I am.
Well, I went out drinking back in my day
and then I was with her and my best friend,
Craigie, who always got me out of trouble
and I drank too much and they didn't want me to drive,
I drove and I killed them both.
Really?
He killed someone in a drunk driving accident?
He killed his girlfriend and his best bud.
Oh damn.
What a tortured guy.
I know.
I think they should have left it in the movie though.
Interesting. Cause, well...
Because they were all in such bad moods. I was like, why are these guys so grumpy?
Yeah.
Beyond the war.
Yeah, yeah. He's thinking about that. Damn.
I guess that's why his back was all...
Oh, that's why his back was all fucked up? Not from the war.
You assume it's from the war.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, maybe that explains why he went on that suicide mission at the end.
That's what they were saying.
Yeah.
And like on the TikTok comments, people are like, this is why in the end he does that.
Yeah, yeah.
Kind of selfish if you think about it, because the other guys are like, come on, man.
Hey, I didn't kill anybody.
I just want to get home.
Or I did kill people, but it was all like, you know, above board.
I'm staying.
I killed my girlfriend, drunk down and now you all gotta die.
It's a tough thing to bounce back from.
If anyone listening has done that, you know we love you but it's a tough one to bounce
back from.
Feel free to call in.
Yeah, call in and talk about that.
Talk about Sandy Hook.
Dude Pittsburgh? So I'm a Steelers fan, so maybe I was biased. I gotta say, I think Pittsburgh
is the most beautiful city I've ever seen. It's awesome. It is gorgeous, dude. The Carson
Street, the foliage is insane, the architecture, the city of bridges. You're just crossing
bridges, rivers everywhere, and it just feels like old solid America like it's just as you're driving down the street
You're like, yeah, you could build a niche of cities like this. It'd be a good place. I mean there
That is one thing I've learned from traveling is there's nothing better than just good solid Americans
You know come from the steel factory
They want to watch football have a brew. They love it. Have a hero.
We went to Primonti's, we did their sandwiches.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
It was good.
I had two Rubens that day.
You did two?
I did two.
Oh man.
I had a Ruben from a different place for lunch.
And then a Primonti's Ruben after that.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Their accent, the Pittsburgh accent, probably the dumbest accent I've ever heard.
Yeah, I didn't even know they had one.
It's so unique.
Like where you're just like,
what are you even talking about?
What is it, the Yizjagos?
Yizjagos. Yizjagos.
And then that's different from Philadelphia
where the, you can have this drawn,
you can have this drawn.
No, it's not, yeah, but they're close,
but they don't talk alike.
Yeah.
Injagos.
Injagos.
The Steelers are gonna be good.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a little, it almost sounds like,
it's almost like a black scent,
but it's super white at the same time.
Right.
Good win for the Steelers.
Bro, let's go.
Russell Hustle and Bustle, man, Muscle Wilson.
You believe in him?
Do you think he's got it?
He's got it enough.
Can we win a Super Bowl with him?
Look, we got Mike Tomlin.
I mean, the guy's never had a losing season.
You know the headlines, seven and two.
He makes it happen.
He's finally got a quarterback that can throw the deep ball,
can open it up for our run game.
We got the great defense.
Yeah, I think we can get there.
Do you think Justin Fields doesn't have it?
That's his name, right?
Maybe.
I mean, he was tough.
He went to chicago
seen what they're doing with caleb this year
you can make a reasonable argument that he wasn't put in the best position to
succeed in developing there's been a lot of quarterbacks and maybe if they went
to a different place
could come out better but
i think i think without question the steelers are better with wilson
kancy just uh... he can convert thirty eight he can be can be down in the fourth quarter without question the Steelers are better with Wilson because he just
he can convert third and eight he can he can be down in the fourth quarter and
And make big plays to bring you back. I just don't have confidence in Fields doing the same thing I like but I like Fields. Do you feel bad when that happened like when for someone like him?
He's trying to make his mark. You feel bad when he gets benched
Yeah
I feel bad for a lot of guys who in sports who just didn't go to the right team and never got the right opportunity
You see it with some guys like later in their career
They'll be like 31 32 and then they'll go to a different team and you're like, whoa, like you're stud
Yeah, and it's like yeah just wasn't really given the opportunity, right?
I mean, it's not quite the same but like Saquon Barkley was with the Giants
Everyone knew he was like a generational talent like I watched him at Penn State
I was like this is like the best running back I've ever seen he can literally do
Everything he like has the perfect physical makeup perfect mental makeup all the skills and he had a couple good seasons
But he was kind of we thought he was washed and and maybe he was gonna have a subpar career
Then he goes to a different team now. He's a world-beater. He might be the MVP a lot of it's just situational
Probably true of all things in life too yeah do you think Daniel
Jones if you were on a different team no he sucks he'd be bad anywhere are you a
Giants Jets guy Patriots not big sports guy no I love you Daniel Jones like as
a human and he's a good guy I don don't know. He's handsome. He's
He's got a huge contract. He's getting like 40 million a year
Wow, but it's to do like so my friend worked Mark Sanchez went to my high school for a transfer to Mission Viejo
I think honestly
He would have been better off staying at the high school that I went to that I then got kicked out of so we both
left but um
My friend was like working for like a sports marketing company and Sanchez is one of their clients and he called someone one time
He's a hey
We want to do like an ad deal with you and like Mark Sanchez or have you guys endorsed my center and they just went the
butt fumbler
Because he's got that famous thing where he smacks off his own lineman's ass
It's like do one moment like that yeah that's the rest of
your life everyone thinks you're that Marc Stinger's like handsome badass like
cool stud quarterback all people remember he slapped off someone's
fucking behind yeah and everyone thinks he's like a doof now and it's like dude
this guy you know beat the Patriots in the playoffs. That's tough. I mean, yeah, I think about that a lot with sports, especially football
because
it feels like
To me, you know, I've been really watching football for you, you know
Three months, but you're in now. I'm in now, but it's kind of look like Matthew Stafford. Who's your quarterback?
A little bit tough loss last night. Yeah tough
I know you guys looked like shit. Yeah
But it seems like in football a lot
It's like you work so hard to eat your stud quarterback
But then the fans are just ruthless if you lose a game you just get trashed and it's like
you'll be I'll be watching football,
and you'll be like, I'll be watching football,
and I'll be like, man, it'd be so cool to be a pro athlete.
But then when you really think about it,
it seems like torture.
Unless you're just crushing,
unless you're Mahomes, Travis Kelce,
you're just crushing it,
it seems like it'd be a really stressful
Total indeed time period. Yeah, I was sitting next to a guy at the at a
Restaurant in the terminal at LAX and we were talking about football
And he went to Notre Dame and he was friends with the guy who quarterbacked and he's like dude He couldn't handle the mental part of it. He's like after they'd lose the game
We'd just be out and he'd be checking the social media and he'd be like everybody hates me. Right. And he's like it would ruin his day and
he just couldn't get over it. Yeah. And I was like well he's 19 he was like 20 at the time. Yeah.
1920 it's like uh that sucks. Yeah. Most people aren't equipped for that. Yeah I remember there's
uh I was watching the Raiders game a few weeks back with my girlfriend. She's a Raiders fan and they had like their third string quarterback in.
I forget his name but he played like shit and I was just thinking about the whole time
because this was like kind of his shot to you know perform and he looked terrible.
Was it Minshew?
Minshew. Minshew, yeah.
He's had some games.
But, yeah, the whole time I was just,
I mean, that poor guy.
I've seen, one of my buddies played football at SC
and his roommate got a chance to start a quarterback
and was kind of a highly touted guy.
And they lost, it was a brutal game,
it was like a monsoon weather, it was tough to do to do anything but he didn't play good and we went back
to their apartment afterwards and he was just sitting on the couch just like yeah
just so and I don't know if he ever mentally recovered from that it kind of
yeah he never like played great after that damn I know it's tough out there it
is I'm trying to think in comedy Rob Delaney had like a really bad Conan set
that everyone says is like legendarily bad.
But he bounced back.
He had a good show on Amazon and stuff.
He seems to keep plugging the chart.
He's older though.
He was like in his 30s, 40s when that happened.
Yeah, it seems like in comedy you can bounce back.
Yeah, because it's funny.
Yeah.
You hope.
And it seems like you get more at bats. I would say.
We can do it for longer. Yeah. Although my window's closing. I gotta figure it out. I'm getting old, man.
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Back to the show boom you know what I don't get though
Karma hmm you don't get it not real. You don't think it's real no
Because if karma is real
You know I've never heard mention karma?
Is a warlord or a dictator.
Right.
You never hear Putin be like, a guy better watch out, he's got bad karma.
People take over the world, nothing happens to them, they just keep plugging along.
That's true.
But I know you're a karma guy, so do you want to decarma my karma?
Yeah, I mean I guess in Putin's case he's probably got some other demons he's dealing
with that you just don't see.
Maybe, but wouldn't karma still be like, hey we gotta kill this guy?
I don't think it's eye for an eye.
How is it then?
I think it attacks you in different ways.
You know, it wouldn't be like- like he's having boner problems or something. Yeah, I think if if if if you're a dictator
Or a warlord and you're killing people. I don't think it would be like another dictator would come and kill you
That could be the case, but I think it would come back in different ways where he's got his own hell
You know yeah, I guess it's I guess the part I take umbrage with is when people make it seem like eye for an
eye.
I don't think it's eye for an eye.
Because people are like, this is proof that karma is real.
And then I'm like, what?
But the people who are getting the good karma don't even seem like they deserve it.
And then I'm like, it doesn't make no sense to me.
No I think it comes back in different ways.
I don't think it's I for an I.
I do think too, if you act a certain way,
like if you're like a belligerent guy
who's like always picking fights,
like you're more likely to get your ass kicked
because you're in those situations a lot.
But I don't think that's karma.
I think that's just like probabilities, you know?
It's like you're in a certain lifestyle
that's gonna make that
stuff happen but I'm like that's not karma no I no I tend to think that yeah
I don't I don't think it's that just wouldn't make sense eye for an eye I
don't think you should believe in karma. Why I just don't think it
I don't think it's I think you should not I think it'd be better for you to not believe in karma
So what you think I should do?
That's true cuz you can't I'm big on that. You shouldn't just tear down something without replacing it
Yeah, what do I think? I think you should become like a
Slaved back hair demon guy and be like, you know what?
It's life is just about the application of power right is taking what you want
so you think I should just try to become like
just
try to take over everything and and and
Screw everyone out. Yeah, that part might have to happen. I don't think you'll have to do that all the time
I think there will be key inflection points where you're like, right. I got to fuck this guy. Yeah, he's screwed
Yeah, but for the most part. I think just you're just like you're not even thinking about it
You're just like I'm on I'm on my shit, and then if you get in my way
I got it. I got it like a Logan Roy. Yeah, you know I should try to become like Logan. I think so
I think that's a nice second act for you. Yeah, that'd be an interesting route, and then you can always pivot back. Yeah
Yeah, that'd be an interesting route. And then you can always pivot back.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can become, it's sort of like
the classic billionaire path where you become the billionaire
and then you become a philanthropist.
They're super nice at the end.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're like, look, life is really just about helping people.
Yeah.
But then they do the biography
and everyone from like 20 to 35 is like,
he was the biggest piece of shit I ever met.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He took my ideas, he ran with them,
and look, he did a great job,
but those were not his ideas.
But then he looks back and he's like,
you know, for me it was always about connecting with people.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll give it a shot.
I think you'd be good at it.
Thanks for the inspiration, yeah.
I'll see how it goes.
Just to see what it feels like.
And then if you do that, maybe I'll become a karma guy.
Yeah, that'd be a nice,
that'd be an interesting experiment.
We can see, I mean this could be the starting point. Yeah we could sample it and be like hey
how'd it go? Yeah what happened? Yeah I fucked out, I fucked two guys I have a deal, felt pretty good.
But then you'd be a Buddhist at the end, you'd come back to it. I already study that stuff. Yeah.
be a Buddhist at the end. You'll come back to it. I already study that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I could do maybe I yeah that's like the reverse billionaire path is start as philanthropists,
even though I'm not a philanthropist, but start as a Buddhist. You are. Start as a Buddhist
and then fuck people till I die. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, wow, he was a really nice guy up until 34
and then he just became a real piece of shit.
Yeah.
You always keep him guessing.
What do you think?
You think I should try it?
I think you gotta do it just once, yeah.
All right.
Just to try it, right? Yeah if you what if you really like it like what if you get like?
Power drunk and that was your real purpose here. Yeah
Burtable yeah
Sounded pretty good, right? Yeah
I'll need to think about need a lot. I mean not think about but I need to think about how to apply this newfound power
Yeah, cuz because I guess my thing is people who say karma is real
Are they do they believe that are they more afraid that karma isn't real?
Are they more afraid that karma isn't real, what do you mean?
Like
They're doing all these good things, but they have a fear that nothing will come
back to them.
Or they're worried that actually the world is brutality.
The world is brutality.
And so they're almost saying that karma is real because they're hoping to make it different.
They're like, if I believe in karma, maybe I could actually make karma real
Does that make sense?
Sorta it doesn't make any sense does it lightly lightly make sense you're I feel you're saying they're hoping that karma is real
Right, which is kind of just normal. That's just kind of how people believe in things. They just hope it's real. It's sorta
Yeah, right, right. They might just be
Yeah, right they might just be I feel like you guys are fucking with me right now Well, I okay here's I feel like you I'm being you guys you guys are trying to make me this is first step of taking the power
Yeah, you guys are doing something to me. Here's
Here's a case all
Yeah, Sackler family, right? Yeah, you see the opioid people. Yeah, the guys who created a piece on great guy
Yeah, and now with my newfound path,
best guys I know.
So did you see the, who's the one guy?
Doapsic?
Not Doapsic, it was the Netflix one.
Probably the same story.
But who's that guy that you like,
filmmaker?
Alex Gibney?
No. What what he do anyways you see Matthew Broderick
Scorpio I think so you see Matthew Broderick who's like the guy who started
it all in the Sackler family who started Oxycontin or was really pushing it you
see him in his big mansion and he's all alone and he's trying to like he's trying to like stop his smoke alarm from going off and he's just all...
He's just sad, right? He has all this money, he got all this power, but he's just alone and he's just a miserable piece of shit.
Great guy though with my newfound thing.
guy though with my newfound thing. Would you argue that that's a form of karma? It's like he has all this money, he has all this power, but he's miserable still.
I would argue that that's a fictionalized version that is depicted that way to make
us feel better about his wrongdoings. We want to believe that he's suffering on some level.
But I do think, like Ta-Nehisi Coates talks about this
in his new book, that this one player,
I think Derek Stingley got paralyzed playing football,
and he got paralyzed by Jack Tatum,
who's a real hard-hitting guy.
And you would think Jack Tatum has to live in
some kind of guilt or suffering over what he did,
but then if you read Jack Tatum's biography,
he doesn't even really mention it.
Like, he might not even think about it. But. But I think us when we create the story of it
we very much want to believe that the person who's inflicting the hurt is like thinking about that
forever and they have to carry this burden but in actuality that might not be the case. Right.
But I don't know, I don't know the real Sackler guy might be like waking up at night from nightmares and be like feeling the weight of his sins.
I don't even know if that's the case. It's just he's all alone.
Yeah. Yeah. That sounds hard. I hope so. it's like the Nicholas Cage movie Family Man. It's like he took the Family Man route
or he took the rich guy route.
Which was he happier as?
You know, both lives look pretty good for him in Family Man.
That's the thing.
In that movie, I could have gone either way.
Like he had the big penthouse
and he was killing it, the business thing,
but then I'm like, dude, Tlione and you're living in Jersey and you own a tire shoot, it's not bad.
Your family was good looking, everybody was healthy.
Piffin's your best friend.
He seemed cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, that one was a toss up to me.
The ending of that movie, very unsatisfying.
What happens at the end?
So he has to go back to his regular life, but then he finds T. Leoni who's now living
like a business woman life in New York and before she leaves for Paris he's like
he explains to her what their life could be and then she's like okay I'll date
you right like he's like we live in New Jersey we have a van it breaks down our
daughter eats too many sweets but we're together and we and when I look at you
on Christmas Day I know I made the right call and she's like okay in real life
the person would be like what the fuck are you doing right yeah I've tried that
before yeah it doesn't work in real life it's would be like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, right. Yeah, I've tried that before. Yeah, it doesn't work Yeah, it's crazy. You should try it
Shoulda? Yeah. You think I'll do better cuz it didn't work? No, you're gonna fail miserably
Okay, but you just need to feel that hurt. And you got to try you got his life this romantic
Yeah, yeah, I'm probably not I tried that with Dua Lipa. Oh
Yeah, she's a good one to try. Yeah, cuz she's at a concert
She's walking out and as she was walking out
You know, I just yelled I was like, you know, we live in Jersey and
Looking on Christmas morning
This will happen if you stay if you if you just like don't do this concert and you come with me and then security
I scored a man. Yeah, she's like look I gotta be in Paris next week
Yeah, I'm on top of the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, that sounds fine, but Jersey would have been nice
Yeah, I'm a Scorpio. Yeah, man. I do the I could call man. I have some sick thoughts when it comes to Dua Lipa
Yeah, yeah, I have some of that stuff too with the pop star women. Yeah
I'm just like what if I just asked if I could just be her toilet
Yeah, have her piss on you. That'd be nice everything have. Have her degrade you. That's nice when those thoughts pop into your head.
I think that's really healthy actually.
You just like look at it pops in your head, you're like, God darn it I don't want to have sex with her.
And your brain just goes like nuts for a minute. Yeah. That's a great feeling.
For me it's much sicker though. For me, you know, I'll see
I'll see Sabrina Carpenter. I'm like,
she just needs to take a dump on my chest.
Yeah.
That's what it's all.
That's me espresso.
That's great.
That's my morning espresso right there.
She's like, I'm just, I'm not feeling that well.
I'm like, how do you need to?
Yeah.
I smell a bit, cause you dropped a heater yeah my chest is wet from your
butt splatter yeah sorry cut that um gladiator 2 you're not psyched on it
this Paul Mescal guy what about him is he gonna pull it off I mean reports are coming in and they're looking good
You saw the Denzel clip. I didn't see Denzel clip. I'm just seeing you seeing reviews
They're looking favorable favorable. I saw that he be Russell Crowe
Can anyone I think someone could have and I don't know if this is the guy, right?
I think he feels a little bland and And I liked him in normal people,
but that was a totally different kind of part.
I'm not familiar with any of his other work.
Or I don't even really know what he looks like.
That's what I'm saying.
And he put on some beef,
but it doesn't look like it's always there.
And with Russell Crowe, he's a thicker guy.
So you're like, yeah, he's a big boy.
Yeah.
Even if he's not the tallest, he's got a thick build and and mezcal. I'm like his muscle looks a bit
Like he took clay and just like stacked it on a thin boy's body. Yeah to me I
Haven't looked at trailers or anything for it. Yeah, I've just seen some
Reviews are he's pulling up. Okay. I mean, I mean, that looks pretty sick. Yeah. But
look at his face. Look at the faces. Can we zoom in on his
face? It's not Russell Crowe's face. And women like him. They
do. Yeah. He was in normal people. He was a little bit of a
sad boy heartthrob.
He looked pretty good there.
I mean I'm pumped.
I have to see it.
I'm seeing it as early as possible.
Yeah.
But I don't know if he's going to be able to take it on and carry the flag.
Have you heard about Yellowstone?
What happened?
The second half of the last season just premiered and spoiler alert, but Kevin Costner famously
is not in this second half of the season.
And so his character dies.
Fans are pissed about how his character dies.
How did that? So it's made to look like a suicide at first but then it turns out
that Jamie's wife or girlfriend, Jamie Dutton, she killed him and all the fans
are pissed. Is Jamie the blonde-haired one? No. Jamie is he's the lawyer who's not his real son he's
he's made out to be look like a bitch the whole series sure and so I saw an
article everyone all the fans are like this is bullshit lazy writing fuck you
Sheridan and then there's an article that came out and Kevin Costner
breaks silence on his character's death and he goes I found out this morning.
He was so checked out. That's hilarious. What a beast. I love that guy.
He's like I don't even give a shit. I had to make Horizon to compete with Yellowstone.
I had that movie on, I had that in,
I had that on works for years.
You're done, done, done, done, done.
I have to say though,
my interest in Yellowstone has gone from 80 to zero.
They're trying to make it where Cole Hauser
and Kaylee Riley I think is her name, that they like the leads and I'm like do they have the heft that
Kate cost has I don't think so
Cole Hauser's the man. I like him a lot, but he feels right as like the third lead on this. Yeah, it's like the cool
Side guy like it's like almost like the Christopher from the Sopranos. I don't know if I want to watch him as yeah the Gandalf fiends
I've been rewatching Sopranos the best show of all time. It's funny like the Christopher from The Sopranos. I don't know if I wanna watch him as the Gandalfines. I've been re-watching Sopranos.
The best show of all time.
It's funny show ever.
Yeah.
Carano, you're like a great artist down there.
The way you kiss me down there, pass me the red peppers.
He's so funny.
She's feeding them to him too, right? yeah, and the way he eats them is so good
Do you ask about do you think the office change the way we all act as humans
Yeah, probably
Sometimes when I'm in public and something embarrassing happens. I'll look to a camera. That's not there. Well, there's cameras everywhere now
That's true. Yeah, maybe I'm just looking at like Big Brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, don't put that in my highlight real CIA
Yeah, but I I think I
Think I became I think that show made us all aware
Self-aware that someone could be watching us. Oh, right. Yeah, and that we should show them that we're us all aware. Self aware? That someone could be watching us.
Oh right, yeah.
And that we should show them that we're aware of that.
Yeah.
I think you're definitely onto something.
Culture did shift after The Office.
It changed us.
Yeah.
I mean with that and the iPhone, maybe that's what Steve Jobs had in mind.
Yeah, they kind of hit at the same time.
Steve Jobs was like, what if you could look at the camera all the time?
And so you're always in, you're, you're, you're on the inside.
That's nuts. Dude, I had, what about this?
So like cheating on someone is horrible
Mm-hmm and then to cheat on some to cheat on a guy and have a kid and it's not his kid
But make him think it's his kid is is bad
and
part of why it's bad is because then that guy thinks it's his kid and he he cuddles that kid and
He kisses that kid and he cleans that kid's diapers and cleans their private parts and touches them.
So not only did you make the guy a cock, but you made him a molester.
Mm.
That's karma.
Because what did that guy do before?
Got molested?
No, I think that-
That closes the loop.
I believe in karma now.
You sold me.
That's a pretty wild, yeah.
It's a tough scenario.
I ran that idea when I was stoned.
I ran that by my girlfriend.
She's like, I was like, babe, I have this really funny thought.
I just popped.
Yeah.
She's like, is it about molesting?
And I was like, yeah.
And she's like, I don't want to hear it.
And I was like, all right.
And I was like, can I still tell you?
And she was like, OK.
And then I told her, and she's like, yeah, I don't like that.
And I was like, I think a lot of people are gonna like that one
Are you thinking about that cuz your kids are black mm-hmm yeah, but I'm tan
Yeah, they're both black what's the we do I
Know you're tan your girlfriend's blonde. Yeah
Makes sense
Yeah, they're cute little afro-americans
I'm stoked. I was like hell yeah, I know when you showed me the photo. I was like dude
Yeah, like if you could if you could have two white parents
Make a black kid, that'd be pretty sick. Madonna did it.
And like no BS about it, no like alternate, you know, paternity.
It's just, hey, we're two white people, but we made a black kid.
That'd be good.
Would you choose that if you had the option?
I think I would choose that.
That's awesome, man.
That seems like something in the future.
That'd be like the new liberal thing thing you know what I mean? Yeah. That'd be like the new. I am very liberal. That'd be like the new Madonna adopting kids from Africa like no you can
just have a black kid now. Right you could change like the egg somehow through like all the science
we got. Yeah like hey hey I'm Wendell and this is Trish
and we both teach at Berkeley and here's our black son.
Mm-hmm, gotta teach at Berkeley.
You gotta, it's funny,
I always try to interview these professors.
It annoys me so much,
because I'm very liberal and everything besides policy.
I just like to, I'm just better than people.
But I'll try to interview professors and I'm like, oh, this one's like really big on antitrust. I'm like, oh'm just better than people but I'll try to interview professors in a way
Oh, this one's like really big on antitrust
I'm like, oh, I'd love to learn about antitrust like all these big corporations
Do we need to bust him up and they're like they specialize in the race sex and gender part of it
I'm like why would I?
And it's for every topic I'm like, oh I want to interview like a geologist and they're like, oh, yeah
They're great with like magma and volcanoes and and all the the the plates that go on and they're like but they specialize in the
Race of it. I'm like, how is that even?
They just pushed everyone there for a while. I guess well, that's like the the Graham Hancock. Do you know who he is?
Mm-hmm. He's he's found Rogan a bunch and he's like a
archaeologist who are more of a journalist who
Theor who has this theory that there was like a very advanced civilization
past 13,000 years ago.
And when he came forward with that argument,
he had like a Netflix show and ancient apocalypse.
A bunch of archaeologists were like, that's racist.
Like that you're promoting white supremacy
Yeah, and he's like I'm just saying that there was a agent civilization and they like well
You're saying that that white people had to create the pyramids for them to be built
Which to me is like a crazy way to
To take it crazy mental gymnastics. It is nuts i i i get where some of the customers like you
they can
the origins of intelligence are battled about and then people use that to like
you know
justify their
like who who's the smartest and who has eminence and stuff but yeah i think i
think we could all do to
i don't think most people think about stuff that way and you kind of bum people out when you bring it there.
Yeah.
Where they're like, actually this is racist.
I just thought it was fun
that there was this alternate historical timeline.
That's why 99% of people love it,
cause it's fun.
It's fun to think that there was a crazy society
that just got totally wiped out.
But would you think it was as fun
if his alternate timeline was that all that happened
but it was Mexicans
Yeah, well there you go. Well. I mean he well that's point-proven. Hey, you just I swear to God
I'm not even being sarcastic. Yeah, you just kind of defeated the
Yeah, I mean I don't when he talks about he talks about like the Amazon and he talks, but I never weren't picturing
Joe white guy yeah, I'm all that stuff. I'm not picturing Joe white guy doing all that stuff
I'm not picturing a bunch of guys in Pittsburgh
We need to make we need to get in jangles these jagas need to make the pyramids. What's going on?
It's probably like not even a Pittsburgh accent, but like
He's talking about like the Amazon rainforest and like he's like well it really the man Amazon rain
I can't do his accent, but he's like the Amazon rainforest. It's man-made
You don't understand this Joe. Yeah, it's cool. That's exciting. That's that's cool. Yeah, and these I'm not buying it
But that's exciting. It is cool. It is cool. You look at Ligar and he's like look at these look at these structures
How did they make you know what I mean? Totally? Yeah, and Totally. And then he gets pretty wild with it too,
where he's like, I believe, Joe,
that we had the power of telekinesis.
You wonder how they made the pyramids?
With the mind.
Moving the rocks.
I love telekinesis.
Of all the powers, X-Men style, it's in my top five.
And then he debated this guy. I do a great telekinesis of all the powers x-men style. It's in my top five and then he debated this guy
I do a great telekinesis phase
Let me pull that mic over here do
That's kind of acting I love anytime an actor has to act out telekinesis, yeah, I think that's
Liam Neeson's very good at it Michael Fassbender. What's the one?
where Yeah, I think that's the best Liam Neeson's very good at it Michael Fassbender. What's the one? where
Where the guy likes oh the matrix
Where he's the machines come and he's he's blindfolded. He's like oh my eyes. I can't see
At the end of number two yeah, oh you're talking he's face really good turn to camera so people can see you talking he says face
Number two yeah, oh you're talking he's face really good turn the camera so people can see you talking he's this face
Alright, oh
That's really good
It kind of looks like you're busting why do you does like you I
Use all my life force he passes out at the end. I'll try to you then alright Let me stop a bunch of a epic nezzers or whatever they call them
Yeah, that's good be a sick end to Matrix Reloaded.
Because at the end he actually has to reload.
Reloaded.
Reloaded.
To the Hancock thing too, you know what?
There's probably, I don't know, but there's probably a lot of black dudes and Mexican
dudes and Asian dudes who like his stuff too.
And then people are like, it's racist if you believe in that.
And they're like, what are you talking about? Why, why am I not allowed to like this thing? Because
you say it's this other thing. Yeah. Look, there's a big referendum on it. People are
over it. It has been announced nationally. Well, here's my argument against the archaeologists
as well. Is there like, that's racist for thinking that. And I'm like, no one's head
was even going there. Yeah, why do you? You're racist for thinking that and I'm like no one's head was even going Yeah, why you're racist for thinking of course because your mind is thinking you you're you're doing something weird
You're saying that he's being a white supremacist by saying the only white cultures could have done that
But you're the racist for having your mind even go there
I totally agree and I think I think that would do a lot of legwork. Like I'm I'm
you know, I purport to be liberal, although I was running for city council. My policies
were pretty middle, but I'm racist. Yeah, I'm sexist. I'm all those things. Right. As
human beings, we were all somewhat instinctively biased against things that aren't from our exact group
mm-hmm but I also hate my own group right I also very much dislike half white
half Colombian guys who grew up privileged I think that's a pretty
despicable group and I I don't like them yeah I think it's good to be honest you
got to I'm coming out here live. I'm racist.
Good job.
Thank you. You have to say it now.
No, I'm gonna fuck you. That's my new thing.
God darn it.
You wanted this. I don't associate with this man in any way.
Dude, come on man. You baited me into that.
Yeah, I cannot. I totally disavow everything he said.
I think it's despicable.
Oh, you played me.
I think it's dishonorable.
And...
But you think 9-11 was a hoax.
I think 9-11 was an inside job, yes.
That's racist.
That's not racist.
Because you don't think Arab people are capable
of pulling off a massive terrorist attack.
I mean, look at the tax reds.
Larry Silverstein took out a huge insurance payout.
You don't think they have the technical wherewithal
to pull it off in the sophistication and organization?
Yeah, you got me there.
That's racist.
Towards the middle beast.
Now that we are talking, no I'm just kidding.
Don't get me cooking on this stuff man.
It's nice being in New York huh?
It is.
It's cool.
You can hear the traffic outside.
When you lived in Connecticut did you consider yourself a New Yorker?
No.
Oh because my lady's from Connecticut and she basically, it's all, she's like, I lived
in New York.
She was basically like, I lived in New York.
Right.
How far was she?
I had friends like that we made fun of.
Just being honest.
I had like one friend.
No, I'm glad you're doing it.
I'm glad you're doing it, not me.
I'm off.
I think it's probably like an, what is it, hour 15 from here by car?
Yeah, more probably the traffic hour 30
Yeah, because when I lived in orange county i'm like an hour and a half from la I never considered myself a
Los angelenos also a different state like
The culture yeah, you're in a different state. Yeah, you can't do that
That's so fair, man
That's so fair, man. That's so fair. Do we have anything else?
We've only been talking like an hour and eleven, but I think we've cooked with a lot of, you
know...
We cook with gas.
We put a lot of heart into this thing.
Yeah, we got a show tonight.
We got Chicago this weekend.
First two shows are sold out in Chicago.
Yeah, hopefully we sell out tonight. It's looking good in Chicago. You know, if we sell out tonight, it's looking good in Chicago.
That's what it's all about.
Got Montana next week.
Is that next week?
I think so.
Holy moly cannoli.
I got to tell you, I, I, we, and I know you, I have a tough time leaving my dog.
Yeah.
She can tell when we're leaving.
And she like, she can tell.
So, you know, we were dropping her off at the dog sitter
the night before our flight.
She gets in my lap and just like lays in my lap.
She knows it's heartbreaking.
And then we hand her over to the dog sitter and the dog sitter is great. Like she's the
sweetest and you know she loves Lola but like it's just so heartbreaking where
the dog sitter is taking Lola and Lola is like walking and then she stops and
looks back at me for
like an extended period of time and you just want to be like I'll be back
mm-hmm it's gonna be tough I'm going on a cruise Christmas I have to leave her
for like eight days it's tough man it gets harder and harder too I cried
yesterday saying goodbye to the kids not like full but like I got teary-eyed. I didn't cry at all. I was solid but um
It does get harder, and then you're like
Because we're gonna be gone for like a week this time
I was like are they gonna remember me right like the kid they're little babies yeah
I know they will but yeah, it's tough man. You feel like you're missing out on a lot of quality time. Yeah
Yeah you have a dream and can you have a solid home life at the
same time? I think so. Yeah. It'd be nice to have a show so you don't have to leave.
Leave, yeah. I'm sure there's a lot of stokers go through it. They've got to travel for work
and stuff. But it is hard. And then you know, I'll FaceTime with them and they'll laugh through the camera,
but it's not the same. It's not the same as playing with them and being there.
Yeah. So true.
How's Lola? Does Lola seem different when she comes out?
Afterwards? Yeah.
Afterwards? Yeah. No, she gets excited when I come back, but you know, I haven't left her for, I guess there was maybe a couple times. When we did South Carolina and Vegas.
Did you have her already? I didn't have her but I know my
mom's dog would like kind of like be crumpy when she came back so I don't
know it's a I just love that dog she's a beautiful dog she's sweetheart
it's tough yeah it's tough being on the road. You come back to your hotel room after the show
You're just like what am I even doing here? Yeah, it's just like just don't beat off three times, right?
That's all you got to do
Look, I know you had to sing about a little I know that's tough enough. She's with the Docs that are just don't jack off. Yeah
If you can do that you're doing good
Yeah, you hear that
This applies to me too. I can't I can't check off. No, well, it depends. Okay
What's going on in your life?
How I check it off
Right. Is there something you're struggling with?
Completion
Not related to the jack-O-Nob.
No, everything else is smooth sailing.
Oh, then keep Jack-O-Nob.
That's what they call, you know, that's why Connecticut,
New Haven has that classic restaurant, the Yankee Doodle.
And people think that's a patriotic thing.
They think that's because it has to do
with the birth of our nation.
No, it has to do with Jack-O our nation. No, it has to do with jacking off.
Yanking your doodle.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Yank old doodle my noodle.
Yankee doodle slapped his noodle
just to feel it bust.
Feels like a good place to end.
Yeah.
Call it.
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