Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 373 - Stood Up by Zachirific

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Today is another classic solo ep after our scheduled guest, Zachirific got caught up signing million dollar deals with Tesla. The bros decide THE SHOW MUST GO ON! JT forgets how to read and talks about his issues with ordering from a menu without pictures. Chad talks about how trying to be super "healthy" is actually bad for your stoke and super stressful to stay in a routine after getting accused of being a fake holistic bro.  JT's GF calls the hotline after she finds out he has been using her conditioner. If you enjoyed this ep, leave a like and comment - this really helps!   We are live streaming a Fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://shop.chadandjt.com/ Come see us on Tour! St. Louis and Indianapolis this week! http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Thanks to Our Sponsors:Chubbies Shorts: OUR FAV CLOTHING BRAND! Get 20% off your order today when using the promo code GODEEP20 at checkout  https://www.chubbiesshorts.com MagicMind, Easy Rider, Botanic Tonics

What up Stokers? Welcome to the podcast. Before you do anything make sure you like, subscribe, comment, do all that good stuff because that helps spread the Stoke and boost it into the algo and that fires me up. Guys, we are going to be in St. Louis this Wednesday and then Indianapolis this Thursday. So make sure you get your tickets at ChadandJT.com it'll be a nice nice pre Christmas show if you're in the area come check us out ChadandJT.com for tickets twist the niblets and let's put the gravy in my ass. What's going on? Stokers of Stoke nation? This is Chad Kroger coming in with the going deeper Chad JT podcast. I'm here with my compadre Jean Thomas

What a boom clap Stokers and we are awaiting our guests Zachary if he will be here shortly I Think he's closing a deal with Tesla right now. How you living? Good dude, just hanging. Yeah. Lifted, went to my gym with the kid. Just one? Mm-hmm. Wednesdays is the day for both. Boy or girl today? bleep that Did she Did she crush it? Yeah, she's beast. What what kind of so my gym is a gym for kids What were like little ones? What what kind of? Obstacles did she encounter she did a swing?

She did a toboggan slide. She did a ball pit she did um some climbing up like a Like a gymnast wall Nice it's fire that's sick. She crushes it every time. That's awesome. Do you think she's gonna be a gymnast? She could she's pretty good at somersault and she seems to have good uh proprioception. What's your dream sport for her? Field hockey? No. Probably... Ice skating?

If we're going that time of year, I think it would be the downhill in skiing. Dude! Or slalom. Well you know what you need, you know what you need for downhill right? What? Fire quads. I have good quads, I think she'll be good at that. Dude, I mean are you gonna do squats with her? I'll probably, yeah I just, I'm three-fourths of the way through building a belt squat machine in the in the garage. For her? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, because they don't want to put pressure

on their spines when they're young, but I think it's gonna be pretty bad ass to get their legs big before they hit pre-K. Well, it's like surfing. You want to get that muscle memory and you want to get that into your noggin. And having good lift form, when you have that kind of elasticity in your brain. I Don't even know where I would be if I had that, you know

I'm saying I do sometimes really the fact that my parents didn't put more of a premium on that yeah, like my dad was teaching me how to read and I'm like Yeah, but how about like a clean, you know? My parents didn't even teach me how to read. That's right, you can't read. How is that? It's hard, cause I lie about it a lot. Yeah, you post stories on your Instagram about the books you read.

And I'm like, but you can't even read. Or write, so thanks to my brother for putting all that up. Yeah. He learned how to, he had a different life than me because my parents sent him away with my TO in Miami. Well, what if you get to like a fast food restaurant and there's no pictures on the menu? Like, what do I eat?

How do I eat? How do you order? I get it wrong sometimes. Like I'll be at a taco bell and I'll be like burger. Oh damn really? It's confusing too. Because the people look the same at all the different fast food places. I remember one time we were at taco, actually that happened, we were at Del Taco

and you ordered a burger, they gave you just a huge burrito. And we literally were in the drive-through and he just stared at the cashier for like 10 minutes. Not in like a mean way, just confused. Yeah, you know, I do think though not being able to read has made me better with like Abstract perception. Hmm

How so I think they say people who can't read are like better at putting puzzles together and stuff. Oh Like they have a better like non literal brain. That's crazy. I Heard that Are you good with puzzles? No. Damn. Are you good at anything? Yeah. Self-awareness. Oh that's huge. That's one of the biggest honestly. Your parents taught you that for sure. Because they used to pick on me for not being able to know how to read Yeah, that's crazy. I mean even like in your 30s I remember seeing your dad and he was like, yeah JT Like he got you a book for your birthday and just started laughing but dude when you're not around my dad talks massive shit on you

Oh for real. He calls you like a bitch and a pussy and a cuck and yeah He says you're probably the weakest of all the guys I know. Damn really? Yeah and he says that when he's talking to your dad on the phone. That explains my dad's recent change in behavior towards me. And your mom's on the phone too. Whoa are parents just really mean? No. Our parents just really mean? No. Damn. Why do you think I'm such a bitch? Oh dude, it's a long list.

I can't remember it because I can't, it was so long. Wow. But the top one was just essence. Just a bitch essence? Mmhmm. Do you think that? No, I love you. I think you're the best.

That's so mean. All right, should we end the pod there? Yeah, I think we're good. Oh, Mr. Parr, if you're listening to this stop please just stop. You can call him names too. You're a bitch. That's right. You hear that?

You're a cuck. You're a fucking cuck dude. Yeah what's up? Mr. P, suck my D. Yeah, Mr. P, why don't you suck it. Damn. I heard what you said. Why don't we head outside and settle this right now?

That'd be cool. I'd love to watch you fist fight my dad. That'd be cool. I'd love to watch you fistfight my dad. I mean tense He definitely has OMS What's that old man strength? Oh, yeah, he's pretty he's pretty strong if you try to like One time I thought he was stealing my vape Mm-hmm, and I went to grab it and he grabbed my hand and then I started wrestling him and He said it was because he thought I was gonna grab his cigarettes

Oh, wow, we both thought the other one was gonna throw away the other one's nicotine Wow, and so we started like hand-fighting interesting That's wild Yeah, I mean you try to be different, you know? I was like, I'm never gonna smoke. And then one day I started ripping that E. The Vaporulo. Jason Vaporulo. You remember the first vape, I think it was called like blue something. What's his face? The guy who in he was in True Detective season three. Steven Dorf. Steven Dorf. Those commercials you remember those? No.

He uh yeah he did these sorry it's just Zachary Fick. He did these commercials where he's just ripping e-cigs in Malibu and I was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. Started vaping right there. Before it was even like, before Juul, you know, before, you know, before Call of Duty, before Halo 2, I was ripping e-cig.

See, let's go. Yeah, I was pretty sick, not gonna brag. I'm trying to think like, if I remember when you did that, but then I do remember you like saying Dorf a lot. Yeah. Like you'd be like, bro, I'm blading. You were like, it's Deuce is wild. And I was like, what are you talking about?

The dwarf dude. And you were like, it's true, bro. Detective season. Yeah, detective season. We are brought to you by the legends at Chubbies. Hey fellas, are you spending the holidays with your new partner's family and want to make a good impression?

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Demi Moore and Margaret Qualley. I might have put too much Qualley on her last name there. It's like two and a half hours long. It's way too long. Kind of abusive that way. But they're both naked for huge chunks of it. Wait, who? Demi Moore and Margaret Qualley. Whoa! This new movie that just came out? They're naked for a lot of it? Yep, huge chunks.

How naked? Everything. Whoa. And Margaret Qualley, she has boob prosthetics on it. I Googled it. Cause I wanted to know. But the camera is very like voyeuristic. Like it stays on their naked body for a while.

Really? Mm-hmm. How's Demi? She looks great. They're both beautiful. Damn dude, that just got me kind of torqued up. Yeah, it's a lot like the fly. It's a lot of like body horror.

Like they make you suffer for it. Oh, it's like not cool. It's cool at first and then then it starts getting like ripped apart and bloody and messy and weird but no there's parts that are um. Is it like a horror? Yeah body horror kind of thing yeah. Oh. But if you're like 12 or 13 you could crank to it no doubt. So should I just watch like the first 15 minutes? Probably. It's sort of like below like you watched the first half and then you don't watch the second? Just dip, yeah. Okay cool. Uh yeah I'll just watch a little bit of that before the horror starts. It gets a little bit too much with that. It's funny but I was like all

right come on enough the story is not even moving but They both look great and she's Annie McDowell's daughter Yeah, and it was that wild Mm-hmm, and then that grace Abrams girl who's like singing with Taylor Swift and has that song that like Nikki Glazer walked out to uh-huh. She's JJ Abrams daughter That one annoyed me the most normally don't care about nepotism. Like I've always been like, look, Martin Luther King's dad was a pastor. JFK's dad was the richest man in America.

Winston Churchill's dad was in parliament. Like, you know, they come from smart people who were successful, and then they just try to keep it moving forward and towards progress. But when I found out Gracie Abrams' dad was JJ Abrams. I was like shut up Yeah, you know, it's I Used to I used to have a similar outlook on Just a similar view on nepotism as you but the more you find the more you learn about people in Hollywood The more you're like it's everyone

It's too much. It's it's it's I'm like a privileged guy but um so it's kind of nice having them because I'm like oh it must be nice. Right. They're like the only people have it easier than me. Yeah. But it is annoying. Like where I'm like. It's very annoying. Yeah. Is she good? Yeah her music rips, she's good. Yeah. And it's, I think her biggest song is like really good. It's like pop, pop sensation. It's poppy good.

Well, if she's good, then that. She's gorgeous too. Yeah. It's chill, nevermind. Yeah, it's all fine individually. It's just the totality of it is bothersome. Yeah, I mean, I guess it just like, I think part of the beauty of Hollywood a lot of the time

is that like, most people seem to have these wild stories or these kind of rags to riches stories where they like, or they just like, you know, where they were like in the trenches for like 10 years, just getting after it and working hard and then they rise to the top, you know, like Harrison Ford or something. And then when you hear that they, you know, their dad was like J.J. Abrams, you're like, it kind of ruins it a little bit. It does. It kind of ruins it a little bit. It does. I'm not hating on their talent.

A lot, most of these people are super talented, so. But it's just, you know, a lot of it is the story too. I agree. Like what do you gotta say? Yeah. It's not as interesting as somebody like came off the bus from Ohio. Yeah.

Didn't know anybody. Or Iowa. Yeah. Jake. Oh yeah. Like you're a hayseed. Wait, dude, were people giving us guff on the Reddit? They were saying we were, we were not showing you proper respect, Jake.

No, I think that person was just like misunderstanding. They thought that like, I didn't know that you guys were joking. And I don't know, I'm just... About the moose knuckle thing? I guess, yeah, I don't know. Cause I was pretty pissed, man. Yeah, I mean... I went home and I was breaking stuff.

I mean, we met Beef Nipsips too up in San Francisco last week. He was a legend. Great guy. Sweet, sweet, dude. I mean, I love all these names here. Cream Jeans, MomLem, Hugh Janus, Sauce Boy, Fresh Pair of Pan, Nikki Glazer, Booty Snorkler. I mean that it's just really it's a well-rounded list of just the best people.

You know, Mom Lem and me have been talking because in Burbank they were gonna maybe execute a dog. Oh yeah, that's right. Because it went ham on its neighbor. The people? Mm-hmm. And Mom Lem was working hard to make sure the dog was kept alive know, kept alive.

And then it got marked as a dangerous animal and a lot of people were offended by that. They thought it was like discrimination. Right. And they think the lady might've provoked it. I'm more in the middle. Well, the, so people argue that the lady provoked the dog. Yeah.

But you're more like, the dog's prone to violence, it should be. I think we are a little too protective of dogs. And by a little, I mean way too protective of dogs. Right. In Los Angeles. Yeah, I think, I used to be on the side of protect all dog.

You know, obviously I love dogs, but when you have a dog and you go to the dog park and you see dogs that should not be in the dog park and people are just irresponsible, they're on their phone and their dog is just attacking other dogs, you're like, get that fucking dog outta here. Yeah. It's ridiculous.

People, they say it was like voting or whatever, or driving, you need a driver's test. I think people need a dog test. They need, like if you get, if you're gonna get a Malinois, a German Shepherd, a Pitbull, you need to be, it's like getting a gun. You need to be well-trained or just have a sense of, you need to be, it's like getting a gun. You need to be well trained, or just have a sense of what you're doing,

because you could, you know, you could just have a sweet animal, but you could be, you know, raising a weapon if you're not doing it properly. So. I 100% agree. And I don't think the dog should be euthanized. I'm not saying that.

That's not cool. But you know, if your dog has been biting people, it might have to stay inside a lot. Yeah, or just be respectful of other, you know, I remember I was walking my dog to the park and then this mom and her daughter had two dogs in their car, it was like a suburban, and we were walking by and the dogs were like snapping at Lola. So I was walking by and I was like, get out of here. And we go to the dog park, those dogs come in, and I'm at the other end of the park, and literally within like five minutes they attack Lola and

The mom and the daughter are just on their phones and I had to like run in and grab her and I was like What are you guys doing? And yeah, it's just people are idiots dude, I think subconsciously They want to inflict violence consciously, they want to inflict violence. Yeah. I think they feel somewhat neutered in their own lives and they're disconnected from their own anger. And so there's a part of them that gets a vicarious rush from their dog doing damage.

Yeah. 100%. Wait, scroll up. Momlem has some extra information on, I think I might as I want to get it right. Yeah, 100%. Wait, scroll up. Momlem has some extra information on, I think I might as well, I want to get it right. They caught the head of animal control lying in court about the dog being aggressive. It was on her body cam. Interesting.

So why did the head of dog control do that? There's something similar happening in Venice. This homeless lady had a... They always find the sweetest photos of dogs they're like they're gonna use this dog it's like the cutest cuddliest picture well they what about that squirrel did you about the squirrel in New York no there's like a famous like Instagram squirrel that these people had a pet squirrel and I think the state of New York or the city of Manhattan, whatever, they thought it had been exposed to rabies so they

euthanized it. And apparently it wasn't exposed to rabies but I'm not sure if this is correct but I think they chopped its head off. Whoa. Only licensed wildlife rehabilitators can legally rescue squirrels, and to legally keep a domesticated wild animal. Whoa, dude. I can read. Did you just read?

It also has to be registered to be an educational animal. Go to the next paragraph Jake. We were ready to comply. We were ready to got the perp-er. We were in the pocket paperwork. Oh dude, I'm losing it. Shit. You had it dude. That was it.

That was fantastic. You read so quickly. That sucked. I almost could read again. Did you wanna try it again? No, it's too embarrassing. I hate not being able to read in front of people. What story from elementary school

do you think was most impactful on your psychology? Like a book? Yeah. From elementary school. I was thinking because I holes. Oh, yeah. Holes was good. Yeah. Holes was sick. What about you? I was thinking about the giving tree.

Oh, giving trees tight. It's so giving tree. Oh, giving tree is tight. It's so fucked up. Yeah. It's so sad. What's the, is there another tree one? It's almost like the giving tree is almost like, it's, I think it's so we'll go easier on our parents, you know, like your parents give you everything and you just kind of take it without thinking about it

But I also think it like sets people up for toxic relationships mmm interesting like this is what dating in your 20s is gonna feel like What are their books that they The hook fin made me want to like go on a raft and tan that's cool. Yeah The fables from childhood like I remember Ricky Tiki Tavi about the mongoose Their Rudyard Kipling story. Oh Shell Silverstein, yeah, I like shell. I didn't like Roald Dahl

No, it's gonna throw that out there too weird. There was like a weird Macabre darkness in it. Yeah, I don't like I don't like Willy Wonka James and the giant her age Charlotte's web sick yeah, you do get kind of pedo vibes from all of it. Yeah, it's too weird No disrespect. I'm gonna say that. Yeah, you know what? I'm gonna say it on the pot roll dolls a pedo But no disrespect What else the line the witch the wardrobe Yep, the cat in the hat. I mean huge my My favorite book as a young one, Good Night Moon. Have you read that to your kids yet? No.

I think we have it though. Do you know Good Night Moon? I only know it because you've mentioned it. I love Good Night Moon. Weren't you gonna write a new one? Yeah. About how like the moon's not real? Yeah, good night fake alien satellite.

It's like good night alien satellite. Good night mind control weapon launched into the universe by the Anunnaki aliens. Good night Alex Jones. I always thought that was such a good idea. Speaking of aliens, have you heard the latest theory on what those drones are? Yeah, those orbs or whatever. Yeah, what are they?

Could be something crazy. And none of the detectives or anybody knows anything about it. I thought it was the... I thought it was the Iranians. Yup. I'm serious, I read that. Is that not true? Someone's like, it's Iran. What do you- isn't it- is Iran aliens?

Yeah, I guess that could be true. Maybe it's just like illegal aliens, you know? Like a different type of alien. I don't know. Dude, so I have this watch that like, it's, you know, it's for training. It says I'm not doing too hot right now, dude. Like recovery wise? Yeah.

My heart rate variability, unbalanced. Oh no. Training readiness, level one, no. Training readiness level one. Poor. Time to slow down. Am I gonna die? No, you're solid. Because your dad texted me just now and said you're gonna die bitch.

He sends that to like 30 people a day. Oh he does? Okay. Yeah, don't take it personal. Dude, speaking of Iran, Syria fell so fast. Yeah. Assad is out. And I think part of the reason it fell so fast is because they asked for backup from Iran and Russia,

but they're both so preoccupied in other conflicts that they didn't have the resources to help for the bandwidth. Damn. So what's going on now? I mean, there's a mad grab for who's going to be in the top seat. And who are the rebels? What? Cause I was how the rebels took over the Capitol.

But who are the rebels? I think saw the rebels took over the capital. But who are the rebels? I think it's a few different factions. And I think they're downplaying their more extreme views if they have them right now. So that they'll be more like palatable to the outside world. Okay. But I think there's nervousness that once they get in there, they'll be hardliners. Right.

I might have that wrong, but that's what I've been seeing. I've just read the headlines. It's not so bigot so. I mean, have you listened to podcasts on it? Or what do people, do people have a, what are people saying about the future of Syria? I don't think they know yet. I think it's pretty up for grabs.

And then they asked Iran, but Iran said that we're doing this drone thing on the East Coast. Yeah, Assad before he dipped was like, yo, you guys normally help me out in these situations. And they were like, brother, not today. We're busy. We're fighting other fights. And then he was like, all right, that's about it for me. Dude, that would suck if you're a dictator and you have allies and then people are coming for you.

Like if I were to message you and I'd be like, dude, rebels are trying to break into my compound right now and he left me on read. No, I would not do that. But do you think like dictators and world leaders have with their phone, you know, my phone will say like Instagram, JTPar, Strider, Joe Morici, Matt Mosco. Do you think theirs are like Russia, Iran, China?

He went through all the homies. None of them had his back. The mail left him on read. they were like, sorry dog. Yeah, they might not even have responded Are you guys coming? Yeah, he's like bros. Don't worry. I got this. Hey Putin boom Shit's getting kind of heavy here. Hey, I told her shit's getting kind of heavy here when you rolling You're like, yeah, I'll be there soon dude.. He's like, all right, well, sooner the better because it's just not good vibes right now. Hey dude, what's your ETA?

I'll be there soon. I'll tell you one thing. If we were getting attacked by rebels, I wouldn't text Zacharyffic. No, I would not count on him to protect my father's empire. He would be like, yeah, I'll get there when I get there I'm like well my fucking heads gonna be chopped off dog Yeah, he's like bro. You see what they did at Gaddafi in Libya. These guys go nuts, bro. I have a prior commitment Man you got a schedule conflict

What are your what are your all thoughts on the whole Jay-Z thing? I'm going to let that play out before I weigh in. I'm not in a rush to speak on it. It is like a crazy, maybe it's like a culture shift or something, but this is like one of the few times where someone gets accused of something and they don't have to like step down from a position or like, you know, cause he still is doing the Super Bowl voting

and he's on the committee still. So either it's not that serious of allegations or, yeah, I don't know. It's always weird. Like no one is, I guess because it's not all one organization, but it's very inconsistent how people get dealt with Well, I think too, you know when Dady went down we were all like, yeah, he seemed kind of evil This makes sense. Also the lube is hilarious and

Then they were like but also Jay-Z and we're like that's enough rappers for one year Don't take away Jay-Z. And we get tired of stuff. We're like, oh, yeah. You know, we already kind of had our main entree with Diddy. Yeah, that was like a big T-bone steak. Yeah. You're like, hey, do you also want a New York strip? And it's like, no, I already ate. Yeah, I'm good.

Give me a couple of weeks. Yeah. Let me digest and then I'll be ready to eat more. Yeah. Celebrity pervert. Like if they came out tomorrow and they're like Eminem too, and I feel like shut up, dude. I know, it's like enough. Find me a pedophile from a different musical genre. Yeah.

Dude, sort of tangential, but similar. I watched Jamie Foxx's special. What'd you think? Horrendous. I love Jamie Foxx. I think he's so talented and I'm so glad he's alive. And he went through something traumatic and unique. And I can't imagine what he's going through and what he's had to overcome.

But as a piece of one hour art, it's a disaster. I mean, I watched the first 20 minutes. I was like this is a little over the top but I was like what did happen Jamie? It takes a while for him to get there. Yeah. And he kind of just keeps saying Atlanta saved my life. Yeah. And dude at one point me and my lady were both like no we get it but what happened? Yeah. Like they edited it. It feels like he was on stage for like eight hours and it got edited with like garden shears. Like I was just watching like what and then my lady kept being like is it a stand-up special? I was like I think he does bits later. Yeah. But he's just kind of up there existing. Did you watch the whole thing? No, it's impossible. How far did you get? It's 25 minutes But that was incredible that I made it that far

I was duking it out with my own patience. It was brutal Dude, he resets the premise. He's like Atlanta saved my life Atlanta saved my life. No, like we love you. He's like, I love you too. And I'm like All right. Yeah It's the number one thing in the country right now though. Is it? Yeah, I think people just like, if you're like my mom, you're like, I love Jamie Foxx. I've seen like six movies with him that he's awesome in.

I want to hear what happened to him. Is it getting reviewed well? Not by me. I think it's... I just watched other Jamie Foxx stuff. I was like I watched his Trump impression that time he destroyed that guy at the roast at the Emmett Smith roast which is kind of mean. Oh that's right. Yeah it has a hundred percent but only on six reviews. It's crazy. Well I think people are afraid to give it a bad review because he's kind of like had a stroke. Yeah. If the critic would be like this is trash to write that this is trash. It's bad though, it is. It's shot bad.

It's like the angles are weird. Like it'll go, the continuity is like pretty sloppy. Not to be a dick. I'm just saying, it's like, I don't know. I'm not criticizing, I'm just saying it'd be really funny if like, his thing is like, this is like me, this is a story about how I had a stroke and I came back to life and now I'm back.

I went through a tough journey and then the critic writes and like, you know, the guardian, he's like, this is trash. I'm in Atlanta saving my life. Atlanta saving my life. It's, it's, it's yeah, it's, I recommend everyone try to watch it Nice special Did you watch the whole thing no, yeah

Dude there's the moment to where it turns where he like is like, alright, I'm gonna get into it He's like he cries. Yeah, And it would look like acting to me. Oh yeah? Like I was like, you're not actually crying. I bought it. The first time he got on the stool and he turns out of it so quick though. Yeah, maybe I'm dumb, but I bought it.

I'm not saying he's not sad about almost dying. I'm sure he is. I just mean the way that it was conveyed in that moment felt... I was just at home like, nah. That was in the hotel room in San Francisco. I was like, oh fuck dude. He's crying. Yeah. That's funny. I'm glad he's alive.

I love Jamie Foxx. He's one of the most talented dudes around. Does he have a new movie coming out? Dude, all the movies are coming out now. Or maybe it's just some of the trailers I've seen lately. I'm like, what is this? Because you see like trailers for comedies and you're like, comedies didn't used to be this dumb.

No, all the comedies are bad. There's some good dramas. Do you see Juror number two, the Clint Eastwood movie? That movie's good. It takes, it starts super slow, but that one's good. Anora is good, Heretic's good. There's some good movies. The comedies. Are awful.

Like I don't, what happened? When you say dumb, like you just think it's. The jokes are like like it's just It's so over the top Like you see a trailer and it's like Will Ferrell wrestling an alligator Which I guess they didn't happy Gilmore But the alligators in real fair will ferrell's bed And you're like

It's like him throwing an alligator out of a window and you're like, it's like him throwing an alligator out of a window. And you're like, what? Just get naked and do a beer bong. I think like some of my favorite comedies back in the day were like the ones that were like really dumb, but maybe, I like, have you ever seen like Kicking and Screaming with Will Ferrell? Yeah, that one's got some funny parts. Yeah, that's good

I don't know. I just think like some stuff if if it's super dumb But maybe just the jokes aren't connecting. I don't know Well, is it also like all the funniest people are doing like like it's you like Jake you're more plugged in You like like Drew ski or someone like that Like he would have made happy Gilmore 30 years ago. Yeah, but now he just does his like streams with Kaisnet and Kevin Hart. I'll watch bits from that I'm like, yeah, this looks like a comedy movie, right? Like they do like kind of well orchestrated bits, but it feels organic Yeah, I think a lot of people are making their own content on like YouTube but uh Yeah, and the productions are way smaller now too.

Like it's not like Lions Gate giving people these money or somebody like that. It's just these guys find camera men by cameras and like shoot it in their backyard. And that's the comedy. Yeah. And then yeah, the people they complain, they say, you know, I got too political or woke.

I'm like, I know I get it, but like shut up. But that's the thing I was watching the trailer. I'm like, I know, I get it, but like, shut up. But that's the thing, I was watching the trailer, I was like, I don't even think this is like, woke or political, this just looks bad. Guys, I'm interrupting this podcast to let you know once again that we are brought to you by Chubbies. Guys, Chubbies is epic. They have super fun trunks,

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rocking a sick tee from them they probably seen in videos and it's epic. I love it. Guys, Chubbies is the best. Support our show and tell them we sent you this holiday season gift yourself and your loved ones with Chubbies. In local news, LA city council came out with their new zoning laws

and they're not gonna up zone any single home neighborhoods. We're already in a housing deficit. If you're only staying in low-income areas and knocking down low-income buildings, you're not creating a large enough net effect to bring down the overall cost of homes. You claim to look out for the people, but then you vote 10-5 to keep up the same zoning laws that happened during redlining in the 1930s that were totally predicated on racist intentions and classist intentions. You know, this city was designed to have housing capacity for 10 million people.

We could do it, but three quarters of the city is zoned to only be able to build a single-family home with a yard that is just not a tenable outlook for a solid integrated city. Y'all need to do your jobs. Or what we got to do, they're going into the state legislature right now. The state needs to take away a city's ability to do its own zoning. Like I don't think California has called out LA yet because they look at LA as like a leader. Like LA should be, you know, the tip of the spear for the state's policies, but they don't want to be beefing with LA.

They need to, they need to come at us and say, Hey, we did our arena numbers. You guys are going to fall drastically short. So we're taking away your, your municipal powers and we're going to design the city with some just clean, simple code. Wow. Why do they keep, why do they keep making such dumb policies? What's the problem? Because I think it's because when they have these meetings,

I put it partially on the people. It's like, when we go to meetings, how many people go to the meetings and are like, hey, we need to build this building here? Very few. But how many people come in and are like, do not build this building here? A ton.

So the loudest voices are the people complaining about the change Yeah, and then people think oh well what we need to do is have like the community come together To build and we'll have like a community outlook on it You don't want that right you get a hundred people saying a hundred different things that don't want to work together There's too many special interests playing off of each other. Right. The government needs to be unlikeable and do what's best for our long term, like livability. Why do you think California got so messed up?

A bunch of like housing wise, I think sequel, like the environmental environmental protection stuff, it's like, it's so, it wasn't meant for every developer to be a part of that. It was only supposed to be for like government construction. And then it got expanded by like a court decision to apply to like all building. But it's impossible to pass, it's like, to pass through it's, it's all of its different needs and, and needs and policies, because anytime you build anything,

it's gonna have somewhat of a negative impact on where you're building. And so things just get shot down all the time because of it. And then, and yeah, we just have like, we make builders and developers go through more hoops than are even legally necessary. It's just it's just too long of a process Cream jeans is saying equity is over over affordable housing

You can't have his home's value drop from 1.5 to 1.2 million dollars. I think that's a big thing too. Is that um It's easy to be like go developers are the rich people who are like, they just want to take money from the poor. It's like, well, they're actually building low-income housing that could help people who don't have much money. It's actually the citizens in the neighborhoods who don't want to see their home value drop because there's a quadplex on their street.

Right. It's hard, it's hard. I understand why people feel that way, but it's kind of like I think of it like a Utilitarian perspective it's like We got to figure out what's gonna help the most people and you don't have to build like huge vertical apartment buildings in Single-family home neighborhoods, but you might have to build like, you know, four apartment quads or sixplexes or somewhere in that vicinity.

These buildings are kind of ugly. He's almost here. And I get where people are coming from too. Like you think about like Houston has no zoning. The city looks insane. Like its skyline looks crazy. Yeah, you're were driving around, I was like, what the hell is going on?

But it's affordable to live there. So there is a trade-off. Where you're like, look, the city's gonna look a little aesthetically weird. Here's one thing I thought of. Oh, B. Tolliver's joking. He's just, he's been sarcastic. Here's one thing I was thinking,

cause I saw your story about building, upzoning in wealthy neighborhoods. Yeah. But what, I guess one thing I was thinking is. Oh, he's not joking, B. Toliver's not joking. Is, let's say they build affordable housing in, or like they up zone wealthy neighborhoods. Does that drive the wealthy people out

and then lower the tax income? No, I think you would make up for it on aggregate. I don't think people would fly out of there either if we were integrating most of the city. No, and also if it's if it's prop 13 if the house was owned like a lot of houses are passed down generationally. No one before like 1977 is paying property taxes on their home. Oh, and get the rent control thing. No, they passed a prop in like 77. I think it was prop 13 were basically

if you own your house right now you don't have to pay property to your property taxes. Don't go up going forward And that hurt cities a lot that killed his tax wise So no, I don't I don't think so Right cuz those people like they let's say they have a house in Beverly Hills Because of prop 13 they're not paying as much property tax. So they're less incentivized to move Yeah, so people hold on to their houses forever interesting they're not paying as much property tax so they're less incentivized to move. Yeah, so people hold onto their houses forever. Interesting. Cream jeans, you steal from self checkouts?

Oh man, my girlfriend's mad. What happened? I used her conditioner today. She just texted me, why are you using my conditioner? Why? Why is she mad about that? Because she loves her conditioner and she says I use too much when I use it.

Oh, you just pour it all out? I don't think it's that bad, but she's pretty protective over it. I was out, honey. I'll replenish. Are you a what kind of conditioner is it? She's got a nice one. I use a good one too, but she's got a really nice one. You're going to start buying hers?

I like the one I got, but if I'm out, I'm not, it doesn't hurt me to use hers. I feel pretty good about it, but hold on. We'll try this. At least she's not too pissed. Get ready to cut all of this. Hey, I'm not mad. You might be now you're on the pod. Oh cool. Wait, so you're cool about me using your conditioner? No, but and by the way your conditioner, your conditioner is sitting like inches away from

my conditioner. You just let my body use another one. That's not the normal, that's not the normal, that's the mask. I can't use the mask every day. Yes you can. No you can't. You're the one who told me I can't because I was and you told me I couldn't. It's not ideal, but it's okay.

No, I'm using my conditioner and then getting the all over the cat because it's like messy now. I'm surprised you noticed I was so subtle about it. Are you really surprised I noticed? No. Of course I noticed. I stuck like three fingers in that mofo. Yeah, I can tell the way you scoop it out.

It's just like with reckless abandon. It's not like a squeeze thing? It's not a squeeze. It's like a tub? It's a tub. Yeah, it's like a tub. And he digs his fingers all the way down in and just scoops out a whole fistful of it. Wow. Yeah, I was like, how did you notice with the like if it's like Pantene or something but if

it's a tub that's pretty noticeable. And then you didn't screw the top on all the way it was all a skew. Dude no subtlety. Dude I was in a hurry man I didn't know Zachary was gonna be nine hours late I was like I got a hustle all right honey well I'm so sorry I love you and the kids so much I'll pick up some condition on the way home no no no that's even worse I'll order more just don't buy anything I'll do it all right all right she's being extra. All right, love you sweetie. Hi Chad, bye. Bye. Your conditioner is sitting right next to a mask.

It's not conditioner. That's it, she's misrepresenting. How do you use a mask? I was using it for a couple of weeks and my hair wasn't in good shape. You're only supposed to use those like once a week. Interesting. You leave it in for like five to 10 minutes.

It's like a, yeah, it's more heavy duty kind of treatment. Oh. Oh. Yeah. I use Kennedy's conditioner now. Of course, man. Well, they know more about that stuff. Yeah, I'm like, just keep buying this. They're on the cutting edge with the health and beauty.

I used to get Pantene. No, come on. I used to get Garnier and people were like, what are you doing? Me too. And then she saw the stuff I had and she was like, this isn't going to play. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, I went my whole life thinking that Herbal Essences was like the creme de la creme. And now it's like a whole new world. Also, when you're so young, anything works. Like I think we could have been washing our hair with gasoline Well, and also yeah now I think one issue too is like the the conditioner and the shampoo that are

our girlfriends use is Usually you can't even understand the words on the bottle it's all different words I'm like, how am I supposed to know this and they're like, well, you know, it gives you more bounce. I How am I supposed to know this? And they're like, well, it gives you more bounce. I don't know that. I didn't even know that was a thing I was supposed to be striving for. Bounce.

I love it, I'm in. That's like with my girlfriend, she's like, I like having my hair brunette because it has more bounce. I was like, wow. That's awesome. Holy shit. Yeah. Holy shit. And I was like, what's awesome. Holy shit. Yeah. Holy shit. I was like what about Garnier and she's like no sex tonight. I was like fuck. I mean she changed my toothpaste, my deodorant.

Like when I came in I must have stunk like holy hell because she reworked my whole friggin odor. Dude I've been using a deodorant that Moscow recommended. It's like Ashwagandha and no, it's like Palo Santo and like it's all natural. Yeah. Does not work. Deodorant is one of the ones where I got to go industrial. Yeah. If you go like hippie dippy on the deodorant, you don't want to be in an elevator with that

guy. Here's the thing, yeah, and you know what? I stink more. I don't know if it's like so much that people are noticing, but maybe it's, I don't know. Have I stunk? I haven't noticed, I would tell you. But I would trust that you probably smell more

if you're using that. And then people are like, it takes a couple months to adjust. Yeah, a degree, dude, I used to put degree on. I would smell good for weeks. It's powerful. One application. You're literally putting like tin foil on your armpit.

It works. That smells fantastic. Well, you don't wanna be, you know, in Moscow actually, dude, I'm gonna air him out. I had your back too. He's coming after you. Oh, you're saying I'm not healthy. He I had your back too he's coming after you oh you're saying I'm not healthy he says you're a fake holistic guy yeah he got he came at me this morning and you know what he comes at me hard you know what

okay I just I have I had something coming up this weekend so I'm a little bit stressed and he's like do you want to go surfing? I'm like, I don't wanna go surfing. And he got upset about that, cause the waves were good. Oh, and now he's taking it out on your health. Yeah, and he's like, are you gonna be able to sleep tonight? I'm like, I'm gonna take a Z-Quil,

which is like NyQuil without the Ny, no, without the Quil, or whatever. It's without the cold medicine. And he's like, bro, you're not healthy. And I'm like, yeah, but it's going to put me to sleep. And also working that I've changed my philosophy where when you try so hard to be healthy, that's unhealthy. One hundo.

And I don't want to be And I don't want to be stressed about being healthy all the time. I'm gonna have Jersey Mike's. And I'm like, dude, I ran like 6.3 miles. And he's like, running's bad for you. Listen to Laird. Yeah, he was bad mouthing running. Yeah, and I was talking to Sean, our agent,

cause he does cycling. And he's like, you're supposed to Sean, our agent, because he does cycling. And he's like, you're supposed to run, bro. Like everyone has a different theory. No one knows what they're doing with health. I love what you're saying. No one knows. And I'm sick of changing shit up every time. Ferrara's eating 10 eggs a day.

He's eating 10 eggs a day. He's eating 10 eggs. Yeah, it's too much. I love Ferraro. He's jacked. I'm sure it's working great for him, but I'm going to have a goddamn sandwich. And you like to run. Everyone's got a different thing they like to do that works for them mentally. Thank you.

Dude, I did some powerlifting today. I'm like, I know it's kind of bad for me, like my back, but I'm like, it makes me feel so good mentally. Yeah. I mean, isn't that, isn't that way better than when people are like, oh, but you know, it's. You're not going to build as much like side dealt doing a power lift as you would if you did lateral raises.

I'm like, yeah, but it don't feel good for me to do lateral raises. It feel good for me to do like snatch. Yeah. It's, it's... It's all subjective. Cut that into a clip. It's all subjective.

It's all subjective. And I think what you're saying is the absolute frigging truth bugando is you cannot be too hard on yourself about this ass. No. Like I've been good about my meditating and then I wasn't gonna be able to meditate before today. Like before, and I'm like, I'm gonna have a bad pod.

Right. Cause I can't meditate. I'm like, I'm gonna have a bad pod. Because I can't meditate. I'm like, are you that much of a gentle pussy that you miss one meditation, you're off, you can't do things, you can't be a functioning adult? No, it's all when you put conditions on what you need to make you feel good. That's why I learned a few years ago, I would have a morning routine.

It's so ridiculous. I have a morning routine. I do so ridiculous. I'd have a morning routine. I'd do breathing. I'd do fucking ice bath. I'd do, you know, I'd write down. You were the man back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a mess.

I'd write down all this shit. You know what I mean? And it would stress me out. And it would take up like an hour. And I'm like, this is so stupid and then it's a I think what you're saying is correct whatever makes you feel good is right unless unless it's like unless cocaine and like heroin yeah cocaine but like unless it's like drugs it's like if it's like type 2 fun meaning

exercise whatever or even like if you're eating if if you eat a meal and you love like if you love a sandwich and you Feel good about eating that sandwich. That's probably way better that for you than eating raw liver and Being like this is disgusting and brutal. I Don't know. I think it's all mindset. I'm right there with you. They're the boys some of the boys. Ferrero's eating the raw liver now too. Yeah. I think he's cooking it. Is it? Ew. It's you gotta eat raw. I ate it raw once. Oh yeah. Do you eat like something? Remember you got something like raw at the farmers market? At the farmers market. Was it like the wrong, it was like veal or something? Yeah I was with a girl and she was like super into that stuff and it was like our first date

and she was like, yeah, just eat it, it's fine. It was like bloody veal liver and she just pulled it out. She's like, it's all the same. Yeah. And I ate it, it's all I could think about for the rest of our date. Yeah. It was like, I think I'm got parasites swarming my body.

Yeah. It's too much, dude. She stole it, that girl stole it. By the way, that girl I went on the date with she stole Some of my post election coverage on Instagram. Uh-huh. I was clicking through stories and she stole like two of mine Like your questions your comments. Yes my comments. Yeah, and then I messaged her as I he stole this from me She's like I had had the thought and then I saw you had the thought and then I thought okay I'll post it. I was like, yeah, it's called stealing interesting

Yeah, how does that feel? You know who would not do that? I'm with someone now. She doesn't steal. She accuses me of stealing. Nice. That's the way it's supposed to be. That feels good. That's right. That feels good. Dude I'm stoked we had Zach on today. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, wait, let me see. Should we do a call? Yeah. Is he close? Do you wanna wait for him?

No, we can't wait on this guy. We, remember the time where I set up the riff-rapping of you? Yeah, dude, yeah. And then we waited for like an hour and 30 minutes. I thought you guys were gonna hate me forever. Dude, I was pretty pissed. You set this up, dude. Yeah, and then we waited for like an hour and 30 minutes. I thought you guys were gonna hate me forever Dude, I was pretty pissed. You set this up, bro What he's saying he's coming, but if y'all go gotta go at four, then it's just fucked. So Should I say don't worry about it? Yeah, maybe say that was not nice. Yeah

That would have been a lot Cooler if you came. Yeah. I'm just out on guests. This is what I'm saying. It's like dating. It's like, it puts you in a bad spot where you're like chasing it

and then you don't feel worthy when it doesn't happen. And I'm like, you know, let things come to you. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. All right, then forget it. Let's dive into the calls let's go Whose side are you wanting this whole grace O'Malley Briana chicken fry thing? Do I'll know the beef what tell me what's going on? Oh, man, it's heavy What's the beef People Briana ended the pod and she came out and said, I actually have no clue what I'm talking about, she came out and said it's cuz

Grace didn't have her back throughout the Zach relationship. Like she needed Grace to be there for her but Grace took space because the relationship was too toxic. Were they podcast partners? Best friends too, like from before the podcast. Oh, and they're no longer best friends. They're broken up. Because Grace didn't back up Brianna or wasn't there for her. Yeah.

But Grace took space. To protect her own mental. You know. Even the way I'm laying that though, it seems more favorable to Grace. Yeah. But the more Brianna talks about it, the less I'm, the more I'm like on Grace's side.

Of course. And you know what? It's like, talk about once and let it be. If you're gonna make that your whole thing, then you love it. Yeah, are you addicted to it in a way? Yeah. The conflict, the dramatics of it.

Yeah. Us versus them, the who's letting who way. Yeah. The conflict, the dramatics of it. Yeah. Us versus them, the who's letting who down. Yeah. Hannah Berner nailed it. She was like if you've been bragging about your friendship or relationship for a year and then the moment you guys break up you're like they were a piece of shit. Yeah. She's like I feel gaslit. Yeah. It's true. Zachary just said, he's true. You said he's Zachary if it just said. He's here. He said we can do a quick 20 should be there in a minute. No, we're good. Do you do you want to text him that?

Yeah, I'll text him that. I said, let's do it another time. Yeah, that's the move. Do you think Hawk to a girl is going to prison? I don't know I mean Does she deserve to go to prison? People lost money I Think legally she deserves it legally. Did she know what she was doing? Did she get involved with the wrong people?

I think that's most likely I don't think I don't think she went into it being like, I'm gonna rug pull these people. I think she's like the brother on Good Time. Yeah. She didn't, I don't think she. No, dude, she doesn't know what crypto is or what like a, like pump and dump is. Yeah.

I wonder if in the meetings they're like, yeah, we're gonna pump and dump this stock. And she's like, that's great. She said, sounds smart. It sounds good. Wait, so we'll make the most money and then we have very little risk and people get duped out of some cash, but they'll probably recover. I don't think she even got that far.

Oh, well, dude, no, she doesn't belong in jail. Zach's here. No, we're not doing it. There's no way This is like look listen to the offspring self-esteem you just can't do it to yourself Well hang out with him off Mike. He's saying can I say hi? No, no, no, there's no way What were we talking about? Oh, yeah, I don't think she got that far To where she's like, oh, we'll dupe them. She's yeah, I don't think she got that far. To where she's like, oh, we'll dupe them. She's like, I'll pump and dump. That sounds nice. Is that way to get your stock up? They're like, yeah, totally. You're like, fantastic. Let me get

that cryptocurrency. Dude, we should go to bat for her. Yeah. We should support her. I love that girl. When she came out with that first clip My heart's never been struck like that It was magical and then you know society puts her on this roller coaster And then we blame her for the loop-de-loops. Yeah, it's like she's does. I know all humans have agency She doesn't know what's going on. Yeah, we built her up, and then we destroyed her all within a year Yeah, she didn't deserve that she's talked to a bro She's worth more than that. She'll bounce back. I hope so. Martha did. Martha Stewart's smart as shit though. You don't think Hawk Tuah's the next Martha Stewart?

Dude, if my lady heard me say that, my lady like worships Martha Stewart. She had a home in the same hometown as my lady. You can't say stuff like that. Yeah. you women do not play when it comes to Martha Martha Stewart All right, that was a good one, you know, I think we made it happen guys. Yeah Thank you, Zach for joining Zach. Thank you. That was a pleasure. Remember life is what happens when you're busy making other plans Sure. Also if you were on the calling list,'re recording on Monday. Oh should we do one call first? Let's do a call just us. We got a couple minutes. Okay yeah. And then we cut that fake goodbye. We could uh do it on Monday when we're recording as well. It's up to you guys.

I think I've spent. You've spent? Alright, let's bounce. Thanks guys. Love you guys. If you need advice, these guys are really nice. You want to know what to do and where to go. When you need someone to guide you Watch them have the roads beside you Go and see Go and see That's the key

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