Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 378 - DRAFT - WORST ACTORS with Troy Casey

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Today we are joined by the Certified Health Nut, Troy Casey and Strider Wilson to draft - The worst actors of all time. In this snake draft, each bro will make 4 selections and will give a dank reasoning behind each one to get the judges approval. Today we have a LIVE chat voting and we also call Mr. Cream aka Aaron. This is our first time attempting to draft worsts, Let us know what you think of this format instead of bests! LEAVE A COMMENT BELOW ON WHO YOU THINK WON!! We are live streaming a Fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://shop.chadandjt.com/ Come see us on Tour! WE JUST ADDED BRAND NEW cities for 2025!Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Here is the Total Draft Standings: (s/o HandA on reddit)Chad: 8 wins JT: 9 wins Strider: 10 wins Chris Parr: 9 winsBrad Fuller: 1 win (The Ultimate Champ)Joe Marrese: 0 wins (THE PEOPLES CHAMP)Kevin Fard: 0 wins Thanks to Our Sponsors: HomeChef - Best Meal KITS! Get 18 free meals plus free dessert when going to https://www.homechef.com/godeep HIMS - Take care of your hair loss . Get a free online consult TODAY! https://www.hims.com/godeep MagicMind, Easy Rider, Botanic Tonics

What up legends, welcome to the podcast. Guys, before we get into it, we are on tour. We're gonna be in Torrance this Sunday. Torrance, California, the 23rd. It's gonna be a hot, hot show. And then we're gonna be in Honolulu next Thursday, the 27th of February. Then we're gonna be at the Comedy Store

on the 3rd of March. And then we got Bozeman on the 21st and Comedy Store again on the 31st? Yep. And then we've got Houston on the 4th and 5th and we're going back to Irvine I believe on April 16th. That's correct. Is it right?

Yeah buddy. Let's go. Guys make sure you get your tickets at ChadandJT.com you so much for being legends for being stokers and enjoy this podcast Have a new ice bath, I haven't put ice in it yet but I'm gonna do it this weekend and I'm very excited. Is it impossible to keep those things clean? Yeah but this one has a little like plug so you just pull it out and it just drains. Oh smart. Yeah I mean I'm the type of guy because I used to do a lot of men's work so I'd get in first.

And to keep it clean, you can use borax. And Epsom salts will make it colder as well. But that's if I'm doing horse troughs in real ice, and then with a bunch of guys. And then if you're doing men's work, and there's 20 guys to get in, then you can always just add more ice. But I like to get in first. you can always just add more ice. Right. But I like to get in first.

Yeah, for sure. And the primary benefit of ice bathing is what would you say it is? So you got circulation. You've got exercising your 75 trillion cells. And Chad covered it perfectly on his last stand up. And the mitochondria is the energy centers of the cells. What did you say? You said it perfectly on his last stand up. The mitochondria is the energy centers of the cells. What did you say? You said it perfectly though. I think JT said the mitochondria is the

Powerhouse. Powerhouse of the cell. No, yeah, we heard that from you. Yeah, I heard that. Freshman year biology. Yeah, yeah, powerhouse, yeah. Yeah, the powerhouse of the cell. So it activates the ATP, the energy centers of the cell so it activates the ATP the energy centers of the cell the mitochondria Gets everything pumping so between that and the breath work, which is what Wim Hof is famous for

So fire and ice basically you get the capillaries all heated up and that activates the mitochondria as well So the breath work and then the ice and then you're lit up and then your 75 trillion cells are then the ice and then you're lit up and then your 75 trillion cells are exercised for three minutes. So three minutes or do you want to warm up, go to the gym, do dead lifts, you know, that's an hour, hour and a half efficient, or you could just jump in the ice bath and get basically the base. Do you take creatine? You know, I was on creatine for the last couple of years. How'd you feel? I did. I, Ripped at 50, and I got too skinny and kind of just ripped, and long term it was hard to maintain. So I gained 25 pounds when I moved to Scottsdale

in the last year. Of muscle. Well, I hope it's muscle, but I don't think I've. You look eject. I did it in about a year and a half. So bottom line is I gained 25 pounds, and I am building muscle every day, I don't think I've jacked I did it in about a year and a half. So Bottom line is I gained 25 pounds and I am building muscle every day, but I added creatine To my diet and you know brings water into the muscles. So I definitely felt yeah a little more huge but I just made a video on it and

Somebody gave me some information. They're like, oh, yeah Hey can build up in your kidneys and give you potential kidney stones and stuff and I're like, oh yeah, hey, you can build up in your kidneys and give you potential kidney stones and stuff. And I was like, oh, okay. That's always been a risk, right? Well, that was news to me. I am a health expert to whatever degree, but I don't know everything.

And somebody mentions that and I'm like, oh, that sounds good. All right, I've been on it for two years. Let me rotate off of it. How smart. And sure enough, I felt better. My joints felt better. And so I'm gonna stay off of it for a little while and go sure enough, I felt better. My joints felt better. And so

I'm going to stay off of it for a little while and go back on it maybe in six months. But you felt the benefit in your ATP when you're getting those last couple reps of like hypertrophic lifting in. I felt stronger and my muscles got bigger. There was no doubt about it. And it's supposed to have some cognitive benefits as well. The cognitive function as well. In fact, I heard that only recently in the last year and I started going from 5 grams to 10 grams Oh, i'm just doing 5 grams. I do 5 grams after I work out after the workout Yeah, people say like you can do i've heard you can do it anytime as long as you get it in you Are you doing powder pill liposomal powder? I just put it in my protein shake five little boom

I typically take it after I work out just because of ease and laziness, but I've got a buddy who takes it, he's like, I drink it in the morning first thing, I've got another buddy who's like, I take it only at night. I just do it after I work out because I'm making a shake anyway. And I've heard like, as long as it's in you, like after a few weeks,

you can pretty, as long as you're keeping up with it. Yeah, get it down your neck, I like to say. Yeah, exactly. That's it. So, you see. And I like, if you say. Yeah, exactly. That's it. So, but you see. And I like, if you guys haven't been hip to the Super Amino 23, I've turned you on to them. Those are amazing. Oh, yeah.

The essential amino acids. So that and the creatine, and you can stack some muscle. And so, but talking about energy and testosterone boosting, I got some Shilajit. You guys down with the Shilajit? Yeah, what is this? What is this? So this is, you need about, I think 250 milligrams I got some Shilajit. You guys down with the Shilajit? What is this? What is this? So this is, you need about,

I think 250 milligrams is the recipe to get you stoned or to get you high. And then each one of those is 200. So this is pure Shilajit. It's third party tested. Comes out of the mountains, loaded with minerals. It's the Ayurvedic medicine. They call it the breaker of weakness Really? Oh, yeah

So you take it every day? Most days I rotate everything but this is good. Is it Juju? Does it boost your tea? It boosts everything Where does it say it's third party tested on here? Their website. Is it shrimp? Wait, what is it? Shrooms? It is ooze that comes out of the mountains. Oh, sick. I like to say this, right? Tectonic plates move, right? We got tectonic plates on Earth, and then we got rainforests, right? And then we got millions of years, billions of years of ecological development. And so the tectonic plates move over the rainforest and then crush them.

And then what happens is these ooze through the mountains, like thousands and thousands of years later, and then they harvest it. They harvest it in the Himalayas, the Caucasus Mountains in Russia, and also we have Colorado Shilaji as well. Legit. Is this from Colorado?

That is from, those are the Caucasus Mountains in Russia, I do believe. Nice. Oh, Russian Mountains, yeah, those are just badass. So what is this, would you get a little stoned off this? Would you get a little high on this? Oh, I don't, I mean, high, I mean, I'm sober. I'm sober, so if I got a bunch of minerals and, you know,

I can get high off a cup of coffee. What, so in terms of like what category this is in, this is just a, just a supplement or? Sure. I would say herbal, more along the lines of herbal, because you got, I would say each one of those. But it's not psychotropic drug or anything like that. This isn't Hop-A.

Correct. I hate when you guys do Hop-A. I hate when your eyes, when you do the, you had the best line, when you did our show and you were incredible in it, you're always incredible on camera. And you started saying that you also wanted to give us some like some DMT. And I was like, Troy, I can't do DMT today. This is like the first part of the shoot.

We have a long day. I was like, there's a crew here. I don't want to lose my shit in front of everyone. And so I asked you point blank. I go, is there DMT in the hop? And he looked at me and said, there's DMT in everything, brother. He's like, dude. Dude.

All right. So where do you get this? Black Lotus Shilajit.com, I think. You just get it online? Black Lotus Shilajit, okay. And you take it for the desired, what is the desired effect? I mean, I think it's like,

I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like,

I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like,ilajit.com, I think. Black Lotus Shilajit, okay. And you take it for the desired, which, what is the desired effect? What's the outcome we're looking for? Energy, minerals, when you're highly mineralized, then you can give and receive. I'm gonna trace mineral complex.

Yeah, okay, good. Well, that's loaded with trace minerals right there. So the more minerals that you have, the highly conductive you are, so you can give and receive information easier, you can relax at a cellular level. Did you guys have some? I want to take some, yeah.

Thank you. Glad you did. Yeah, it's nutrition, man. Just trying. How many do I take? Well, it depends on how high you wanna get. Do I take, like, do I chew them or swallow them? Again, it's an acquired taste.

I have to warn people because, you know, it's like coffee, whiskey, or beer the first time you have it. It's an acquired taste. It tastes like rich, gnarly dirt, you know, resin dirt. So I can just swallow this, huh? You can swallow it, but I like the acquired taste. See what happens, man. Chew it up a little bit.

Get it on your tongue action. Good for you, dog. So it's loaded with trace minerals. It tastes like a shoe. Really? Dirty socks. Yeah. Well, that was a good little cruncherini right there, dude.

So that's the press, Sheila-G. It comes from a resin that oozes out of the mountains. And they press them into those little tablets. I like the tablets because you can hand them out to your friends and take them hiking. The resin's kind of a pain in the butt. You got to get a chopstick in there and you gotta get a chunk out of it.

Oh yeah, no that's... Dude, this, I can feel it. Really? Yeah. Feels good. I'm afraid. I need my weenie to work tonight. It's Valentine's Day.

We're recording. Oh, that's gonna help your weenie. I'm still on the phone. Are you serious? That's gonna help your weenie. It's gonna give you a verve and vigor. Really? Oh yeah, man.

That's all legal. That's no CBD, THC, none of that. You don't want any of that type of stuff. But yeah, CBD is just like, is whack. I mean I think exercise is the drug of choice so if you want to activate your endocannabinoid system go to the gym. Mm-hmm. I think what marijuana has turned into is you know just a commercial commodity and it's been adulterated, watered down, or grown in specific ways to make certain amounts of money. I mean, I've done my fair share of marijuana over the years and I choose to just be as sober as possible,

as much as possible, and so I avoid it altogether. So would you consider yourself someone who's inclined to wanna use substances to alter consciousness? Well, I've definitely had a history of that. And but it's an energy you kind of grapple with, like sometimes you go with it. And then sometimes you think it's smarter to resist and kind of purify yourself without. Well, I have an addictive personality. That's kind of yeah, me too. And think we all self-medicate depending on how balanced we are and you know I do a bunch of research on trauma and nervous system dysregulation and Trying to understand myself. I mean a big part of my career is just understanding my own self and healing myself

Psychologically just peeling the onion. Yeah, and so that's a good analogy. And so when it comes to looking at myself and addictions and stuff like that, I'd rather stay as sober as I possibly can. So a lot of the certified health methodologies are based in how can I be the most zen and most presentable, balanced, mineralized, energized, fasted, well slept, vital human being

so I can be present and of service instead of just wired to the gills. Disregulated nervous system, looking for a fight, you know? Yeah, just some energy. Yeah, or just, you know, I did a lot of research on birth when my son came, and I realized my parents were fist fighting in the womb. So I had a lot of that energy in my nervous system,

and then I was yanked out of my mother's vagina with these like forceps. In the 60s my mother was knocked out cold on drugs, right? And then they ripped you out of her vagina. And so it makes sense, I came out of the womb fighting. Right. You know, I'm not done in here, motherfuckers. Yeah.

I was a C-section, they say C-sections are kind of more chill babies, because it's planned. There's no struggle Some people they think is not Spartan enough. They're like you you should struggle out of the well they say also going through the when you go through the vaginal canal you absorb a lot of like bacteria as an anti-immunity stuff, so you're supposed to be a little bit healthier if you go through the Mmm, it might explain your weak stomach to be honest with you. Dude, I think you might be right. And my bitch ass reaction when I got, dude honestly the commentary.

I'm fucking with you cause I felt like you were trying to make the other one cooler. So I was like nah dog, nah dog. No, the thing that makes me afraid of this is my stomach. I'm like, it won't agree with my stomach. Your stomach's gonna love that. Yeah, you gotta take the Shilogy dude. Do you feel stoked?

Your stomach's gonna love that. I do feel stoked. Really? Yeah. What you say warrants attention because it does populate did you do? Do you feel stoked? Your stomach's gonna love that. I do feel stoked. Really? Yeah. What you say warrants attention because it does populate the gut microbiome going through the vaginal canal.

And not to mention, it's been said that the psychologists have tougher times with the C-section babies or the psychiatrist or the psychologist because they don't have the DMT experience having the pineal gland squeezed and the DMT explosion as you're coming into the earth plane through the vaginal canal. And so if there's any proctologist or psychiatrist

out there that can confirm this, type it in the chat. So you're saying when we're born, we have a DMT trip? Yes. As we emerge into the world? Yes, near-death experience, death experience, you're going into the next dimension, or when you actually do DMT, right? Right.

You get shot out into the essence of the all. Isn't that right, JT? You've had that experience, right? Yeah, no, of doing DMT? Have you done five MEO DMT? No, the closest I've, isn't that right, JT? You've had that experience, right? Yeah, no, of doing DMT. Have you done five MEO DMT? No, the closest I've, I did acid, I know they're not the same, but that's the closest I've come to like a complete

transfiguration. Dissolution. Yeah. It was awesome. Of your material. But you know what, I abused it, because my addictive personality when I was younger, I did Adderall the night before, had a wild night, and then I did Adderall the night after I had a wild night, and then I did Adderall the night after I did Acid. I overloaded my brain with chemical

and my whole personality was gone for a month. It was one of the darkest kind of periods of my life. Oh yeah, that's a little bit too much stimulation for the old nervous system. Yeah, well was not well enough for me. But brother, that's why we grok, because I feel that from you, homie. I know we can get after it.

And then, this is something I wanna talk from you, homie. I know we can get after it. And then this is something I want to talk to you about. Is there such a thing as being too sober? Like can you be too in control? Can you be too optimized to where like whatever your natural need to express, to get into it, to have some animus in you isn't being explored enough?

Well I think maybe that's where ecstatic dance comes at play or hiking or going out in nature or spending inordinate amount of time with your children and cracking good jokes. I mean dude you guys with the funny man I mean that's enlightenment right there that's a good drug you know. We were watching I don't know if you've seen this one, the angry Asian guy, the prank calls on YouTube, it's got like 35 million views, it's so fucking funny dude. And I just got a belly ache and it's just like, that is so good medicine.

You know? The prank call's not the best. Dude. Fucking A. They're great. We should do one at the end of this episode. Oh, I'd love to. So what would you say, do you have a morning routine? How do you set up your day?

Well, I've got enough practices. Do I have a routine? Do you just mix it up as you go? I kind of mix it up as I go, but I like to get to the gym because that's gonna activate my serotonin and dopamine. That's gonna help me feel good for the day. I like to brush my teeth, right?

Get the stank out of my mouth. Sometimes I like to take a shower and sometimes I like to just get out the door. And one of the things that I don't like about my morning routine, but sometimes I can get work done, is the phone. And if you get on the phone, and you guys know all this, right?

You get on the phone, dude, and it could be 12 o'clock like that. So I do like to get out the door sometimes, no shower, brush the teeth, have my amino acids, hydrate. So I either do lemon water and cayenne, or apple cider vinegar and baking soda. Makes a little volcano and it really washes the stomach out. Maybe a quart of liquid somewhere around first thing in the morning. I like to...

Do you drink coffee? Hydrate. Yes and again back to the sobriety. I prefer to stay off of coffee, but coffee's so fucking good I love it, and so I need it dude. Yeah, man. It's fucking it's a drug man. There's no doubt about it The chat was currently on I'm currently on coffee. Yeah, where's the chat coming from? Is this right? I'm sure something Yeah, but I got around twitch. All right. What is your favorite porn category? Favorite porn category. And I think we acknowledge up top that porn can be detrimental to the male mind, to the female mind as well,

but it can remove us from connectivity and it can numb our senses. But all that being said. Very detrimental. What makes you pop? Favorite porn category. Big milky jugs or is it something weirder? Nah, I don't like the milky jugs.

I like a big ass, you know. Me too. I like a big ass, but I also like the Asians, man. There's something exotic about them. There is, yeah. I like the dark hair exotic women in general. That's my jam. And is there anything particular that they're doing in their performance or in the video

that makes it really go for you? Like BDSM, stuff like that. Or BBC. Any and all? Double penetration, BBC. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think there's nothing wrong with, you know, some serious violation of some big cock, you know? Right, because the bigger, it's more stimulating. I've heard you're a little bit gay though if you like big black cock penetrating in porn.

No, not at all. Maybe a little bit, but in a way that I totally understand where it's like, yeah, when you're watching- No, I assure you I'm not. Porn is like an action movie. You want it to be bigger, bigger blasts, bigger boons, bigger cocks, bigger tits, everything big. Exciting. You don't watch porn because you're like,

oh, look at this very average, medium-sized, reasonable penis, and look at this very normal woman who looks like she has normal desires. You're like, no, no, make it big. Yeah, fucking get it in there. Get it in there, slam it. I like the BDS. You love it. I like the BDSM. She you know has normal desires you're like no no make it big Yeah When they put those big balls in their face, and they tie them over the wood things And then they fucking jam them with the Back of their head

starts borderline on fucking shit it's like where's this chick locked up and she's all on fucking ecstasy and shit she's drooling and she likes it but she also doesn't like it the complicated nature of it for sure what's her name? Abel Danger you know that chick?

oh yeah she's great she was fantastic she got a little bit fucking worked though sure well it was a tough gig? What Lola? They don't perform forever because I think it's a hard industry. Yeah Ass worship are you into ass worship ass worship? Is that different from just piling the ass with? Yeah, I think it's more I think it's more of the guy is getting like the ass in the face. Smothering. Smothering.

Oh. Annihilating. Annihilating, yeah. Completely losing yourself in just a pure sensory experience. Yeah, because there's the other thing, right, where they do the rim jobs and the, what's that called? Totally different. That's totally different.

That's different? Yeah. I guess, I mean, we were talking about there's a big cox in the ass, but this is the guy getting in the ass himself. He's burying his nozzle in the butt. He's burying in the ass. Oh yeah. Well that looks like it probably feels great, right?

Well do you condone ass eating? Do you think it's healthy? Well, you know, a guy that helps people heal their gut microbiome, you know, that's probably not very advised. You might pick up a little parasitic action from there, even though it looks like those nerve endings and that sensitivity around the anal orifice

and underneath the ball sack, that's pretty sensitive and it probably feels pretty good. I find myself very unlucky that I haven't been able to experience that at a really, really deep level, you know? And maybe that's where porn comes in handy. You're like, wow, look at this human experience. That's pretty cool. And isn't a verified medical procedure though,

when someone's struggling from intestinal issues like diverticitis that sometimes they'll do a fecal transplant from a healthier person to replant their stomach lining? Yes, that's correct. And I've actually helped someone out with that. My son was not vaccinated and you need someone who's not vaccinated

that hasn't had their gut microbiome compromised. And one of my friends who was actually a Shilajit dealer, believe it or not. Nice, scared of this, don't you? He got really, really good Shilajit source from India, flew over there and then, you know, coming through Mumbai or New Delhi or wherever it was, he just picked up a big stomach bug and he was on his death bed. And he's like, bro, I'm dying. I need a fecal transplant.

Do you know anybody that hasn't had, um, you know, childhood vaccines? And I was like, I hadn't heard of this, right? And this was probably 10 or 15 years ago. And I hadn't heard of it. And then I looked it up and I saw it was valid and this guy was earnest and I was like, I'm sure I could bag some shit up and help a homie out. And I did, you know what?

And the guy's still living, so I think that's great. That's my favorite porn category. Shitting in your bro's mouth. Oh no, two chicks in a cup, wasn't it? Isn't that what made YouTube famous? Oh yeah. My wife talks about this though, people will freeze the microbiomes for themselves too.

They'll eat really healthy and then they're like, oh, we can go and experience, go on vacation, get off of our routine. And then they have their frozen shit, sometimes from someone else's good microbiomes, and they'll take those pills. Okay, shit pills. Yeah, pills, bro. New one. How did they administer the fecal? Does the fecal transplant go up your ass? I do believe the doctors do that. Or maybe you put it in a suppository. Suppository or an enema bag or even those enema bulbs,

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dude if you have Mountain Dew, especially code red, which was the dankest, that's gonna shrink your dick. And I would pound that stuff, and I do have a small penis. I've seen my dad's penis. Regular. I was growing up.

Maybe you didn't have the raw milk on top of it. And that develops a big penis. Really? And a jaw, which is where your testosterone comes from. Why the whole mandible situation, bro? I should have had raw milk. I talked to Mark McAfee yesterday. I interviewed Mark McAfee yesterday. Good guy.

From, what's his California postures? I talked to Mark McAfee yesterday. I interviewed Mark McAfee yesterday. Good guy. Raw farms. It used to be called something organic pastures many years ago. He's a good guy. I liked him a lot. I believe in his product. He puts a lot of effort into the quality and prevention of pathogens and stuff like that.

So I would feel safe drinking it. I don't think it would strengthen your jaw though. When you're developing. Don't they say that it's mostly your jaw develops because of sucking on the nipple? That too. So the whole development. It's the milk and the nip.

The child development. You want good nutrition. So whether you're getting it from milk or meat, it doesn't really matter, but you want your bones and your mandible Because the mandible affects the size of your brain as well. So you want the whole skull to develop properly Not mention anything about the jaw. Yeah Weston a price his book on Dentistry and mouth breathing verse nose breathing, right? Yeah, this is all in Weston A. Price's book

as well and the mouth breathing you can find from James Nestor's book called Breathe. But if people really want a deep dive into nutrition and how the body develops, anything that the Weston A. Price Foundation puts out or Francis Pottinger and it's called the the Price Pottinger foundation now They merged as one and Sally Fallon runs that and her cookbook is amazing And so get back into slow cooks and real nutritious food and I love a slow cook crock pot Thank you like a stew dude. Yeah, you got a comp did nothing better than this Nothing better than this. Bro, I love a good stew.

You come to Scottsdale, bro, we stew. Really? You guys are fully invited. Open door policy. It's like Joel Salatin. 24-7 for you guys. When you smell that cooking all day, my mom used to do that on a Sunday,

like a pulled beef or whatever in there. The carrots, dude, a stroganoff. Danky stew, baby. Danky stew, dude, exactly. I love a good stew. I heard that RFK got sworn in on a raw piece of ribeye. I love it dude. Put his hand on a piece of ribeye. Dude I had to prescribe a ribeye to my vegan friend just yesterday. Yeah. Hadn't seen him in Hollywood in a long time and I'm looking at my contemporary going dude. You gotta get some you need a rib eye Smart though because I do believe his product is probably healthier than pasteurized milk to an extent

I don't know we don't have the studies on it, which he'll acknowledge himself But my thing is it's $20 to $25 a gallon So how are they gonna scale that or some of these other? Raw elements that we talk about to where it's accessible to people who don't have that kind of money. Well, let's scale back to what disease costs Well, no, I look an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure But no matter what everyday Americans who are making you know aggregate in a household $75,000 not gonna be able to afford $20 a gallon milk. Is that true or are they spending money on Netflix that they don't need and other things that-

They need Netflix. You gotta watch the Going Deep show. That's correct. They need that shit. But, you know, plastic crap from China. Or, you know, can you shop at a thrift store? So, can you ride your bicycle to work? I still think the financials of it are gonna be-

When people are accustomed to spending $4 on a gallon and then it's up 500%. What's the price of diabetes a year? I think it's $25,000. Dude. Well, here's the thing with raw stuff. In pasteurizing it's just heating it, right? Yeah.

And so this guy's great because he's like, I'm going to do less work on your milk but charge you more. No, he does more work on it because they're sampling it all the time doing research to make sure it doesn't have any kind of bacteria pathogen that can make you sick but the thing is is like industrial revolution happens everybody brings their cows to the city people start getting sick because there's fecal matter inside the barns and and so they came up with a cheap process to make it safe for more people but it may have amputated some of the nutritional

benefit but that was worth it because they had to do it at scale right and get too many people are getting sick is Europe does a lot of raw stuff don't they? Like in certain European countries I shouldn't say all Europe. Reggiano Parmigiano, you ever have that? Yeah. That's raw baby. That's raw. Dude that's my favorite Parmigiano bro. You can get raw cheese. Yeah. That's what they say about Italy is that you won't gain as much weight there because they have they're much more heavily regulated on pesticides and herbicides and stuff like that. We just gotta follow that model, dude.

Well, I've been saying this for years. My clients go to Europe and they eat pizza, pasta, and gelato, which is ice cream, and they lose weight. Dude, my buddy, our buddy's brother, Joe's brother, had like celiacs or whatever, like where you can't have gluten? Yeah. Went to Italy, had pizza?

No problem. Did you even take a weird dump? They say people who are lactose intolerant, when they have raw milk, they're okay. Really? That's what they say. Yep. Well, because the enzymes are there to help break down the lactose. It's bioactive.

It's alive. Yeah, there you go. That sounds intelligent, right? There's logic and then there's intelligence. Yeah, but there's also a kind of language that you can apply to things to make them sound more alluring to people. True, and you can be chill.

You wouldn't know anything about that, would you, Troy? Oh, I'm hyperbole all day long. I'm parabolic hyperbole. Dude, you said the word efficacy, I was like, I believe whatever you're about to say. Before we get- I want you to take the efficacy in my mouth, dude. Before we get into the draft,

are you still slapping your balls? Slapping my balls every time I get out of cold shower, which was this morning. Have you noticed a difference in loads since you started doing it? You know, not only since I started doing it, but I've known you guys for a while and I'm getting up there in age man How old are you now? I'll be 60 this year Wow, dude look very good. So

You know and I've been celibate for the last few years and. I don't know what the size is these days. Usually I can measure it, bam! That's a big one. Yeah. Alright, let's start the draft and then we'll get... Let's get serious, JT. No, no, no. We'll just start the draft and then we'll pivot back because I do want to hear more about your celibacy.

But I think it'd be kind of fun. I don't want to put shackles on you, but it's fun to kind of try and Almost draft while Troy is just ripping like crazy. Let's go, dude. Whoo. All right. Am I up first odds or evens? No, no, so we throw out a one or two to pick out the draft order Okay, you ready? Yeah One two three shoot. Sorry. I went early. Oh, sorry You know what? Let's just give Troy the number one pick.

And then we'll do a one, two, three, shoot. One, two, three, shoot. Oh, right here, baby. Paper, rock, scissors, shoot. Number two, number two, number three, number four. Damn, you guys got the technology. And it's snake draft, Troy. Have you done this before?

If someone takes an actor you can't take, once it's picked, it's gone. Oh, really? Yeah, can't double, once it's picked it's gone. Oh really? Yeah, can't double down. It's like fantasy football draft. So you're going, what is it JT? You're going first. Okay.

Who do you think is the worst actor? Keanu Reeves man. Whoa! Oh no! Oh no! Oh dude! Oh truck! Come on dude!

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Dude, dude, dude, dude. Hold on, I thought about this, because Chad asked me. No way. Chad asked me, on. I thought about this, because Chad asked me. Chad asked me, right? I thought about this. Now, for years, he was.

The movie Bill and Ted was great, but as far as acting goes, he was terrible. However, when they did The Matrix, they either cast him right, or he had a year or so with that script and the kung fu and all that stuff. And so he mastered that piece. Like he was perfect for that. So that was good casting.

That was good casting and that was good. A perfect convergence of player and part. Well. Correct. Thank you. Yeah. JT? Here's what I would argue for Keanu. Probably bad acting ability, high star power. High watchability for him.

Yeah, there's something about him, we just love him. I mean I'm a total, I mean look, he's like, oh I'm an FBI agent, I get it. Not delivered well, but the guy, dude have you seen him the way he trains to hold a gun? I'm like dude. It looks believable It's bad the choreography physicality. His physicality is undeniable and I love him so much So it hurts me so much to hear Keanu picked here. I think that's true of a lot of these worst actors They have a high watchability high lovability, but there's something when you watch them deliver certain lines

You're like that does not seem real. Yeah, well, I mean, have you guys watched him in Dracula? No. That's outside his lane. It is. Bad? It's bad. He has an English accent, right? Yeah.

It's horrible. Oh, why'd he do that? Yeah, he's sort of- And he did Shakespeare too. Like he did a couple things where you're like, you ought to know, but you're like, dude, he's a human being, he wants to try stuff. Yeah.

You gotta push yourself. I gotta give him a lot of credit. And what I learned living in Hollywood and going to acting class and acting here as well, and I didn't get very far, but as far as film goes, but did plenty of commercials, what I realized, and even in class as well, is people that stick with it, you can get better.

So there's just no doubt about it. Some people had it. Yeah. Some people had it and they actually didn't get into the right position, so I don't know where they are today, but I definitely noticed, and especially with Keanu as well,

the more you did it and the more you applied it, the better you got. Yeah, I agree. There's no doubt about it. It's like basketball, like, pretty much anyone can dribble a basketball. Like, you can deliver a line, not everyone's gonna be LeBron James or Michael Jordan,

but if you have a coach and you show up at the gym and you practice, you'll get better. You'll learn to bank a layup. Like, you'll be able to do, you'll develop some moves, you know, and acting, people have their moves, you know what I mean? So I totally agree. It's a muscle that can be worked on and a skill.

And I think too, I almost think in LA, there's some people who have a high amount of talent off the bat, and that actually works to their detriment because they don't work as hard. Whereas some people, if they have some talent, but they're like, oh, you're not quite there, they're the ones that are gonna really work to really get there.

And so I think there's, in Hollywood, seems like there has to be high work ethic and decent amount of talent converge. Totally. Yeah, I think there's casting that's involved because I've seen some crap that De Niro's put out as well and I think he does his best work with Scorsese. But I've seen him crap that De Niro's put out as well and I think he does his best work with Scorsese. But I've seen him phone in some stuff and I'm just like...

You can tell his heart's not in it. Yeah, his heart's not in it and maybe he's not cast in the right light as well, but his work with Scorsese is just... Groundbreaking. I just watched, I rewatched Heat last week. It's incredible bronze. He's so good in that movie. Yeah Chad you're actually up next There gets the orders I'm gonna go with maybe

One of the most legendary worst actors In our culture, you know, he's not, he's famous because he's a bad actor. Tommy Wiseau. Oh my God! From The Room. I can't use it? Nope. No once it's gone.

Yeah, I mean he is the bad actor. He was so bad that he made the movie amazing. Yeah, it's like famously bad Yeah, exactly, but he's never been in anything else. So to just this is just me. That's what hurt If this is me coming at you, that's what I respect. Yeah, this guy's horrendous. He's only done one thing That's cuz he's such a bad actor true. Yeah, he is the top bad actor. They could do anything else. He did something so horribly that he's the bad actor and they couldn't do anything else. He did something so horribly that he's the bad actor. And I think it also, it helped that he wrote the script because the dialogue is phenomenal.

Hi, Mark, that line. Hi, Mark. It's a great pick and I mean, you know, he's iconic for being bad. He's kind of who people, I think our top two picks were right in that way Is the right guy? Yeah, that's him Uh, have you watched the room you guys all watched it? I've never seen it. I've never seen it Uh, I did I did a theater experience and during iconic scenes you throw spoons at the

Plastic spoons at the screen. I don't really understand why they're doing that. I forget but that is something that they do Yeah, I saw the movie with James Oh, yeah, James Franco. That was a fantastic movie. Yeah fun Alright up next so Keanu for me really embodies like what this whole debate is about. It's like, is someone, what makes someone a good actor? Do you like watching their movies?

Do you like spending time with them? Do you, when you think of them, do you like them? Or is it, or is it about technical skill? Like if they don't have, but they don't have the technical skill. Or is it, could it be someone who has the technical skill, but you just don't like them? And for me, it's this guy is that. I'm going with Ryan Reynolds.

Dude, yeah, bro. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. And where he's at in the culture right now, everyone- It's a perfect moment to slam Bam Bam. Yeah, dude. Everyone's coming down on Reynolds. And you know what? I don't like his, I don't like his, you know, sarcasm. I think it's lame and not funny. So I think he can suck it. his sarcasm, I think it's lame and not funny, so I think he can suck it. Yeah, his sense of humor, I have to say, is like if a middle schooler never matured out of a humor.

Like, meh, meh, meh. 13-year-old sarcastic, I think I'm clever, but anyone who's actually been through life is like, dude, just shut the fuck up. Exactly, dude. And he always does the same formula for all of his movies. It's 70% glib, 30% heartfelt. He saves it for the backend of the second act

where he's like, oh no, I really do like care about people and want to be a real person. I'm like, dude, you know what? It's weak as shit, get the fuck out of here with it. All of his movies suck. He's only in, I honestly can't think of a, so like with Keanu, I'm like, bro, he has like five movies where I'm like,

if they were gone from culture, culture would be hurting. Like if we lost the matrix, if we lost John Wick, if we lost speed. Point break. Point break. Those are important moves. Ryan Reynolds, you could lose everything he's ever touched and we'd be fine.

Totally. We'd be better. We might be better. We might be better off. We'd be more than fine. I think he's the reason the movie industry is failing. Yeah, his humor is huge and you're right. That is huge and you're right.

Big swing and I love it. Deadpool Wolverine saved it. I'm like, I think it did the opposite. I think it just took us right off the cliff. Yeah, no change. The green lantern, dude, you kidding me? Hey, JT, that's a great- And maybe everyone's-

And his chin too. He got his chin done now. Yeah. Did? Yeah, no, he's a good looking guy. He's a good looking guy. You can see the boat. No, he did the right thing getting his chin done.

He's smart. No, no, no, no, no, no. In photos he's like- Oh, well that's different. It's chin done. He's smart. No, no, no, no, now in photos he's like. Oh, well that's different. It's too fake. He might've done a facelift to go with it. Okay, okay, okay. Or face tight.

I'm guessing he went more surgical though. Check behind the ears. You can always see if they got a facelift behind the ears. Yeah, he's a douche. And do you think people are extra picking, he's like, whoa, this is a lot of animosity towards this guy. Poor fucking guy. Do you think people are extra picking on him too because they wanted to see him go down?

Like, are we happy about all this hubbub? Because we're like, yeah, fucking it's about time Ryan Reynolds got smacked. I was thinking about this. Troy, are you familiar with this Justin Baldoni, Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively? Oh, you haven't heard about this? No.

Oh, it's a whole thing. Check out Candice Owen's podcast on it. She goes real in depth. Okay. It's too much to explain right now. We would need three more hours. He tried to end a guy's career because his lady might have had a crush on the guy

or the guy was being rude to her during a movie. Ryan Reynolds? Ryan Reynolds tried to like end his career. He got like the New York Times to write like a hit piece on the dude. Oh wow, okay. And so. And got the agency to Times to write a hit piece on the dude. Oh wow, okay. And so. And got the agency to drop him.

And so now everyone's, at first everyone was on Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds' side, but as more facts emerged, now everyone's on the other guy's side. But, and everyone's piling on Reynolds. And I was thinking about this. If it were like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise, I don't think there'd be as much of a pile on.

No, no way. Because I think we'd think about all the good Tom Cruise movies and we'd be like, let's go easy on him. We'd think about all the good Brad Pitt movies. We'd be like, let's go easy on him. Ryan Reynolds doesn't have a movie that we're like, wait, but we don't want to lose him. We're like, we could lose him. Van Wilder. That's it. Van Wilder. I loved Van Wilder. I like when he's good in Van Wilder. Or like Wrexham. Is that what he started out with? I think that was his thing. Actually I liked him at that point. Van Wilder was sad. That's kind of all I really knew about him and obviously I've seen him around for a while but I don't follow film that closely. But God you guys

got great opinions man. Oh dude. This is all I have. If I don't believe you, I'll just ask you. All right, Strider, you're up at two, bro. Okay, here we go. You guys are cooking. Troy, you really hurt me with the Keanu stuff, but it's right. This one, this is a guy who's a megastar. He is a brand, and part of that,

one, he doesn't have any technical skill, really. I respect his work ethic. Apparently, he's good to work with, but now I've heard later and stuff, maybe he's not, maybe he's a bit of a diva, but you know, this is Hollywood, what are you gonna do? But when this guy's on screen, immediately I go, that movie's gonna suck, there's no stakes, I'm out.

This is a great pick. And that's Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Great pick. Ooh. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. When I see this guy, he almost, look at this franchise. I wanna say he's the worst part. When he stopped a torpedo with his hand,

what are we doing here? And maybe I'm blaming the writers. He didn't write that, but he committed to it, so I gotta give him respect for committing to it. But I'm sorry, dude. If he's in the movie like the Tooth Fairy where he's a hockey player, he does a remake of like- Ballers.

He sucked in Ballers, he sucked in that. The show sucked. Yeah. But every time he's in a movie, if he's in a movie, it's gonna suck. You're right. Here's the thing. Walking tall, he was pretty good.

Here's the thing, he was hot for a second. The rundown, I actually enjoyed the rundown. Not bad. He was hot for a second, and then he got San Andreas, what were the three? The Gorilla movie. The Gorilla movie, the and then he got San Andreas, what were the three? The gorilla movie. The gorilla movie, the one where he has no arm and it was like his shot and everyone's like,

this is trash on trash on trash. Correct. Baywatch sucked. Do you know what they've done? They took, who's a great actor, who I don't think is gonna be on any of our lists, so I'm gonna say his name, Brendan Fraser or Fray Her. They took every role that he does and they just put the rock into his movies

Yeah, if you put Brendan Fraser, that's another thing if you put another actor in any of the movie the rock does they're likable It's better and more likable the rules aren't bad and do the rock actually like like snitch is like actually a pretty solid movie I actually think he's good in gridiron gang. I think some of these stars Could have been better actors, but they just chose a path of stardom. Yes. And they just amputated any art that existed in their body. Yeah.

Like they're just like, dude, it's just not worth it. I'd rather just get paid like crazy and just like start a clothing line. Like yes, they don't even read a script. They just go, who's in the script? Okay. And they're like, which quadrants is this hit? Like what people will enjoy this movie? Yeah.

They have a team where like, actually Dwayne, right now with your demographic, you're hitting really well with men 45 to 48. They admire you, but girls 13 to 12. They wanna see you be a dad in a movie. Yeah. So you're gonna be a tooth fairy. You're gonna get your tooth knocked out. You're gonna become the tooth fairy for your daughter.

It's really gonna increase and you're gonna sell more Coca-Cola. Did they make him, excuse me, did they make him wear the dress? He's a tooth fairy. I mean, he might have a good. I think he might wear one in that, yeah. You know what, I don't think that's a massive conspiracy. I think directors are just sadists

and they like to make you do shit you don't wanna do. Okay, this makes perfect sense for my next pick. Are you ready for this? Yeah. This is an actor who's a beast, who's a workhorse, who is a titan in our industry. Tyler Perry. Yup. This guy's a badass.

Great pick. Dude, Strider coming out the gates with two black dudes. Dude, he's like the number one paid motherfucker in the industry. Yeah, so I didn't mean to slap hands. Like I think it's good that Strider did that. I just think it's bold. It's bold. These guys look-

I appreciate Strider risking the biscuit by honoring his real taste. I'm already not getting cast in movies. What are they? What else is going to happen? And you know, I also like. So the Madea character, actually, I watched a podcast on what was that podcast with the murder mystery of the two girls? Karen, Kail Gareff.

Yeah. Yeah. I forget the name of the podcast, but it was huge. They did an episode on- My Favorite Murder. Yeah, My Favorite Murder. Bang. And the Madea is a character who lived across the street from Tyler Perry, so he basically just like,

his whole career is just based on a lady that lived across the street, which I don't maybe think that's too bad. That's maybe fine, he drew inspiration, but- No, that's okay. Still, there's the ingredients to the sauce. But I'm like, dude, no, like, honestly, I don't think he could play,

like he, I bet you, he couldn't deliver a line normal in a movie to a character, like if they're buying something at a convenience store and he's like, that'll be 7.95. I bet you he would mess that lineup. Being a normal dude. Here's the thing, I've never seen a top pair movie. Dude, they're hilarious, bro,

because they're so bad. Like they're shot bad, they're acted bad, the sets look like shit, and you're like, this is fucking popular, and they crush, but they're really, really horrendous. They're funny though, because he really pushes the envelope with what happens. He's the number one paid dude.

He's a beast. One movie he's great in, Gone Girl. Actually, he is good. Oh, he's in Gone Girl? Yeah, He's a beast. One movie he's great in, Gone Girl. Actually he is good. He's in Gone Girl? Yeah, he's hilarious and awesome. He plays a Ben Affleck's lawyer. Oh, that's time of period. And he kind of exists outside of the drama, like he's always kind of smirking at what's happening, but it's like perfect. He really crushes that. That movie's funny, dude. Gone Girl is one of my favorite movies. I think it's really smart. He's in Don't Look Up. Oh yeah. Oh, he's in a lot of things I've seen.

The hell? But those are smaller parts of all that stuff. And here's the thing, do you remember him in those things? No. There's no small roles, only small actors. All right dudes, I'm coming up next. I think Strider, you know, we're doing the similar list, but I'm sticking with the pale fellas.

I'm going with another guy that to me is what, this is who we thought was gonna be Ryan Reynolds. And then Ryan Reynolds ate his lunch. So that's all you need to know about this guy. He's another one. If he just took away all of his movies, I'm not even blinking. I don't even know they're gone.

I know there's one movie he did that people like love. I actually think it kind of sucks. They always want me and Chad to remake it. I'm like, dude, I didn't like that movie when I was 12. All right, I'm going with an Actor who wants everyone to think he's smart, but the problem is if you watch him act it's just not coming through Ashton Kutcher. Yeah Good yeah, just just just relies on his riz, you know his his natural like energy of like

They want you to remake Dude Wears My Car. Yeah, and then his dramatic depth is not there. I'll just see him in movies where it's like, he's supposed to be in love with Natalie Portman, should be pretty easy, and he's like, you hug me, I won't let go. I'm like, dude, what are you doing, bro? And actually, I like some of the movies,

what happens, because I'm a rom-com guy, so what happens in Vegas, no strings attached, I'm like, oh, oh i'm digging this but the actress has to do all the heavy lifting He just looked cute and then once his look started to slide It was all she wrote he was so bad. He had to become an investor on shark tank Yeah, exactly. That's rough bro. Well said yeah, and then he got fired from a movie for sucking so bad Really? Yeah, he was gonna be the lead in Elizabeth Town and Cameron Crowe said, later dude. Oh, and he put in another actor who might.

Another guy who's definitely coming up. Who might show up on someone's list. Another guy who's definitely coming up. And here's the thing with Ashton Kutcher, butterfly effect, good movie, sick movie. He's not what makes it sick. Like if you could put in another actor and that movie would be sick.

He tried, he did spread, he did some like art house shit and like he's bad in all of it. It's just a, God bless you man, I know you're gonna go down cause all the Diddy stuff. Oh yeah. He's a toast. Yeah but here's my thing. Here's my thing. Oh well.

I'm not that mad at him, those Diddy parties looked fun. Yeah but Diddy also come up for his boy. This is hugely conspiratorial. The question is, they look fun and I would have liked to go to one of. This is hugely conspiratorial. The question is, they look fun. And I would have liked to go to one of those parties, like, oh, a big Hollywood party in the hills. Yeah, yeah, sounds great. And you get there.

Like, where do you draw the line? Like where, like, you know, is it roofies? If anyone doing the sex act isn't smiling, I'm out. Okay. It's got to be full consensual. Yeah, that's my thing. If someone's like, I don't really want to do this. And they're like, well, here's your dildo. I'm like, I'm out. Yeah. It's got to be full consensual. Yeah, that's my thing. If someone's like, I don't really want to do this and they're like, well, here's your dildo. I'm like, I'm out. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. So, if that's the case and that's the metric, great. Awesome. What do you think he's sitting in Rikers Island for? Yeah. Tortured and shit like that. All right. Let's keep pushing. It's rich, but I already feel like we have so much juicy, rich material in this one. I just wanna comment that you guys are really good critiquers, and I just don't pay attention to movies that much anymore, but you guys are really good, by the way. Oh, thanks, dude. Thanks, man. Yeah. Thank you.

Chad, you're up. All right, I'm gonna go, more shots fired, okay? This guy, you know, he's another guy who everyone kinda wants to take down a little bit. They think he's kind of annoying He was hot early 2000s. He had a good movie in 2010, but overall I hate seeing him in movies. I hate watching him act. I think he's a douche Justin Timberlake. Oh, yeah

Good list bro, especially after that netflix series came out dude. We were like what he did to britney dude. Yeah. Oh dude hood list, bro. Bro, especially after that Netflix series came out, dude, we were like, well, he did the Britney, dude. Yeah, aw, dude, yeah. Bro. No, but yeah, he's terrible. He was in that other movie, which actually is, is it Friends with Benefits? Just Friends. Just Friends, yeah. Oh no, Friends with Benefits, you're right, you're right. My bad.

And it was like the same movie, Natalie Portman, Ashley and Kutcher, and then Justin Timberlake. Two good actresses, two bad actors. Dude, even him in Alpha Dog, you ever see Alpha Dog? Classic great movie. He's like, Fiesta motherfuckers, you ready? Nah.

Yeah, he's trying to sound tough and it's like embarrassing. Yeah, and now he's like, and now everyone like sees him in concert and they're like, why did we ever like Justin Timberlake? Dude, he's so bad in Easy A, or not a bad teacher. He was great in the Backstreet Boys, and Sing. Yeah. No, dude, his Backstreet Boys. And Sing.

Yeah. No, dude, his music's slap-ola, dude. Future Sex, Love Sounds is a good album. It's fun. They will say that on SNL, he does a good job with the Barry Gibbs talk show. Like he brings it in sketches. Yeah, no, he was cool.

Maybe we pushed him too hard and he was due for a correction, but Chad's fucking spot on, hammer on the nail. The guy in a dramatic movie does not belong. No. He was good in Social Network. Yeah, he was great in that. Social Network was sick, he did deliver that line well, so that's gotta be noted for the judges.

But I watched that about, what's the time movie he did in time? Drop the thug. He's so bad in it. Palmer's hilarious, bro. That's like an Apple movie. It's got some good music in it. Palmer's hilarious bro. That's like an Apple movie. It's got some good music in it but he plays like a roughneck who gets out of jail and then he becomes friends with like a little gay boy in a hick town where they're all homophobic. It's like out of control. Like I don't know who the movie

was for. I loved it. I guess it was for me. But it was like it it's just too, it's too well intentioned, it's so funny. All right Troy, you're up, you got two picks, bro. Okay, so, yeah. So this guy got a little bit too much plastic surgery. Not Mickey Rourke. Yep. I like Mickey Rourke. Mickey Rourke's a fantastic actor.

There's just no doubt about that. This is Zac Efron. Oh! Wow, dude. You know what's interesting? He was supposed to be the next Tom Cruise or something. Yeah, he was a handsome guy when he was younger. There's no doubt about that.

Yeah, and he muffed it up. God, with the plastic surgery and that one he did with Nicole Kidman just recently oh yeah she used to be a great actress yeah and she can't emote now cuz she's too much plastic surgery weird no he's got the plastic surgery her I mean she just got weird was it the Tom Cruise marriage or what I don't know but she just, but she just went from like really intense, like great actor, like you know, eyes wide shut. Like she did, even before that, she did you know really good movies. Dead Calm is really good. Very interesting. And then now she's like non-existent. I guess Hollywood's not very

good with women. She does a lot of TV. She did like the, she does like murder shows on TV now. That's like her jam. The Big Little Lies, yeah. That's like a old Hollywood step down from film to TV. And then the Hugh Grant one that she did for HBO, that was pretty good. Yeah. You know what's so funny though, Troy,

because now I think a lot of the money goes into these like premiere or like limited series, even more than film. Like a lot of big actors are doing shows. Like movies are sort of in trouble thanks to, you know, Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. He ruined it for everybody.

Well, and the production value of these digital outlets is amazing. Like Narcos, I am addicted. And I never watched something twice and I'm totally glued watching it again. Do you watch Band of Brothers? The movie? Bro, it's a limited series you gotta watch.

Dude, my family account messaged me and was like, Strider was so right, that show rips. Steve, what up dude? Steve Howard, the man. You should watch dude, it's so sick bro. It's the sickest series of all time. And I rewatch, speaking of rewatches, sorry to cut you off, I got too fired up.

But Troy, I gotta come at you a little bit on your list here. Okay, all right. Zachary Fong is so charming in 17 again. Dude, he's good in a bunch of stuff, but I kind of agree with Troy that like, you're right though, he's really good in a bunch of stuff. Like 17 again, I think he's good in Ironclaw.

He is good in Ironclaw. He's good in Neighbors. Oh yeah, he's great in Neighbors, you're right, he is. I think Troy, you bring up a good point, is like he had great in neighbors. You're right. He is but I think Troy bring up a good point is like he had so much potential and if he feels it feels like he didn't live up to it and now it's Yeah, people are like what is going on and he's such a handsome looking guy He's perfect show with Darren Olean and so he's kind of into like health and sustainability and then

Dude, I just don't understand with the old Plastic surgery. I know yeah and people people like a dude in here was like, I don't think it was plastic surgery I think he terribly broke his jaw. It's like that's not what you're oh was it no No, cuz if you wouldn't it wouldn't change your jaw on both sides I've seen people do like analysis on it. Like it's pretty I No, because it wouldn't change your jaw on both sides. I've seen people do like analysis on it. Like it's pretty, I think he got surgery is what I'm saying. I know I'm no expert, but I've done an obscene amount

of Googling on it. Yeah, well in bringing up plastic surgery, I loved your piece with that doctor that you did. Oh yeah, I should get into this. I thought it was fantastic, and I thought that her marketing ability was just borderline fucking cunt. All right, so.

I was just like, that's my man JP, and it's fucking, you're talking about his unique face. No, so the clip that Troy doesn't like is that Troy, she roasted me by doing a consultation on what my face would need

from a plastic surgeon's perspective. It didn't bother me. I think she was actually right. And I think you actually agree with her. But dude, if she started fucking your face up, then you wouldn't be JT. You'd be Zac Efron. I hear you. I hear you. But you said, because you think everybody's like uniquely beautiful in their own way. Yeah, they are. But do you sleep with ugly people? Well, define ugly. I mean, if a girl has a shitload of plastic surgery,

that's psychologically ugly to me. She's doing that to impress someone, whether it was her father or judges in bodybuilding competitions or whatever, but I have studied this extensively. When I see plastic surgery, I know that this is fucking hell on wheels once you get past the honeymoon period.

What about a natural, natural, not attractive person? Every branch on the ugly tree falling down the tree. She's just not a good looking person. Well, then that's not a good match. I mean, I mean, I do like some aesthetic symmetry, right? Which is the definition of beauty.

Exactly. The golden ratio. Yeah. But you know what? I've seen chicks that are, you know, they have one homely aspect or another, but they got a dope ass personality and I can hang with that.

But your definition of homely is like someone who only does print, they don't do like runway modeling. That's a great, you guys are great to be analogies, man. I don't know, I like a natural woman, I just do. Who's really hot. I like a woman with, yeah, I like hot women, but a definition of hot, again, you know, the

definition typically was like model. You know, you got to be more than 5'7 or 5'8 and you know, you got to have this look or that look. And I don't fall into that category. The girl could be short or she could have a very large ass and you know, a lot of the models are too skinny. Yeah, no, I think you actually have a bigger range than I'm representing in our conversation. But I guess my point was this, dude, the people I saw who took the most exception to that plastic surgeon kind of laying into me like that were

people who were objectively like beautiful. So it almost felt patronizing to me where they're like, no, you're perfect the way you are. And I was like, bro, you're just saying that because like you feel safe from like your perch right there And so I was like I think I think it I think beauty plays in how everyone perceives everything like Oscar Wilde I think said it best beauty is greater than genius because beauty needs no explanation Like we can't help ourselves when we see something beautiful. We're instantly enthralled by it And so I think the a surgeon who's helping people get that, yeah, you could say they're doing damaging psychology,

but I think they're also just honest about the way the world works. Well, I postulate that beauty and health go hand in hand. So if someone's living a holistic lifestyle and they're going to the gym, or you don't even have to go to the gym, you're just taking care of your body, you're eating good food, your skin, your hair,

your nails is gonna pop naturally your muscles are gonna pop you know shake what shake what your mama gave you you know go with that as opposed to getting a BBL is that what they call them VB yeah BBL BBL the Brazilian but lift yeah which people think Drake got and that's why BBL Drizzy BBL Drizzy Kendrick Lamar made that that was Metro Boomin did the beat on that one. Okay, right Jake I think you're right though Like a healthy person like when someone's skin looks like it's like well hydrated and their hair looks like they've you know Got collagen pumping through them that can go far because I've seen beauty beautiful people who look a little bit like

college and pumping through them that can go far because I've seen beauty beautiful people who look a little bit like Their their soul isn't animated and you're like, all right, well, it's just not there Yeah, and they're comfortable in their own skin and and they're themselves and they don't have to be anyone else I think that is beautiful. Yeah. All right. Well You got one more pick. Yep. You go back to back here. Is it my turn now? Okay, let's see we're gonna go with Megan Fox. We're only doing dudes. But that's a good pick. It's a good pick.

We're doing dudes only. All right, dudes only. All right, let's see. It's a good pick though. Bad actors. Shit, I don't watch enough movies. Should we just let Troy do actresses too? Yeah.

Yeah, Megan Fox, give him Megan Fox. Megan Fox. Let it rip. Yeah, so, I mean, she's one who gets it on the beauty, right, she's got the beauty, opens up the doors, did she sleep around to get those first rolls? I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. I think famously the director, Michael Bay, like made her like wash a car. I've heard. When she was 17. When she was like 17, like come over and wash his car in a bikini. So I think she got like kind of put

in some awkward situations early on. Like, yeah, Hollywood. Troy's suggesting she had more agency in those decisions. Maybe later on, who knows. But yeah, her movies, I don't know, like- She's bad. Yeah, Jennifer's body, not good. What else has she been in? I mean, the only thing I remember her from is Transformers. She was just hot in that. Jennifer's body, which I never saw. Friends with kids, she's like the hottie in that. Yeah, I don't know.

You know what, she's fun to watch on screen, but yeah, I agree with y'all. She's not a great deliverer of dialogue. Yeah, watching bad actors always gave me hope in Hollywood. And I'm like, well, if they can do it, fuck, I can do it. Yeah. And then, but as we've found out, not everything's just sheer talent. Ditty parties are real.

Do you think? Yeah. All right, Chad, you're up. OK. Man, you're up. Okay. Man, you know what? Tough, tough, tough, tough. I, you know, there's some, there's some,

there's, there's guys on my list who have only acted like a couple of times and they were so bad that they just didn't. But I'm like, I don't know, does it merit a spot on the list? Yeah, exactly. I'm like, I don't know. They've been in one movie. I thought, exactly like I don't know they've been in one movie. I suppose the debate earlier I kind of think that's interesting though

If you pick an actor who's been good but has a bunch of shit and he's a big icon It's kind of interesting to think about them in that context. Yeah, that's interesting Or you say someone who's only been in a movie been like a couple movies. Yeah Now I kind of skipped those guys cuz I was like also they're not like famous enough where it's like fun to pick on Right. Yeah, I guess I'm going to for people who are famous for other stuff than they tried acting and people are like no Yeah, like Shaquille or something like that. Yeah. Yeah Well, if that's the case, I'm gonna go with you know This guy was in one of my favorite movies growing up because it covered what we all care about losing our virginity

And oh good pic People thought he had the juice. People were like this guy has the juice and they gave him a shot and it didn't pan out. I'm gonna go with Chris Klein. Uh oh. Oh Chris Klein. Okay you're gonna go with the other guy for that movie. Yeah the Oz Striker, the hot dude. Yeah.

Are you thinking the main guy for the movie? I was thinking the main guy who I think is a good director now. Anyway sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You think the main guy for the movie? I was thinking the main guy. Who I think is a good director now. Anyway, sorry. But Kline, Kline, yeah. Chris Kline, yeah. So he's an American Pie, Oz. He just wasn't,

he's just not a good actor. And I kind of feel bad for him. I don't really want to hate on him. I think he seems like a good guy. Yeah, he seems like a good guy. He seems like he's good looking. That comes through his performances. Yeah, I kind of trust this guy to keep you I think good addition to the crew I think he's a good guy. I think he's good hang. I think he's you know, he seems like a He's got some integrity, but you know, it's just It's just a it's just a bummer

He gets he gets out acted and stuff like and we were soldiers love that movie with Mel Gibson about the first battle of Vietnam with at least between America and the Vietcong and He has a nice juicy role in it But he gets out acted by Bertie from Remember the Titans. I forget that actor's name Axe circles around a minute dude. Yeah, and they're both kind of like it's kind of a movie that's both supposed to be their springboard Axis circles around a minute dude. Yeah, and they're both kind of like it's kind of a movie that's both supposed to be their springboard Yeah that and rollerball rollerball was supposed to be a big fireman. It was so bad one of the worst movies ever

It's so bad. You're just like watching it like this is the definition of a clusterfuck Well, I was there in the 70s when rollerball came out the Jimmy Khan one. Yeah, that's that was good Yeah, well it was definitely good and interesting and kind of cult following. It was definitely, the content was interesting. But I do remember it as being, was it low budget or something like that? Yeah, yeah. You could tell that that was,

but again, very interesting film though. And Jimmy Khan, I don't think he's a bad actor at all. I love James Khan. No, he's amazing. He's one of the best. Godfather and thief and stuff like that. Yeah. He's serious business.

He's like somebody you meet on the street. He's still serious. And he's the kind of, you don't see actors like that pop up anymore where you're like, oh, this guy, it felt like James Khan was like a mechanic before he became an actor. There was like a real world toughness and texture to him. Oh yeah. Do Chris Klein, I would say his matrix, a mechanic before I became an actor there was like a real world yeah toughness and texture too. Oh, yeah

Do Chris Klein I would say his matrix like where it's just like a bad actor and the perfect part is election I never saw election. Oh, do you love it? It's so good. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. I'm cussing a lot today It's really really good. He's great in it All right, I'm up And you know what? I think I'm gonna go with an actor I actually really like and who I think has given several Oscar-worthy performances. I think he is the opposite of Kutcher and Reynolds.

If we lost his catalog, it would be a huge loss to the movies I love to watch. But I think this dude of the movie stars has been really bad in a bunch. And so I feel good putting him on the worst actor's draft. I love you so much. I'm going Mark Wahlberg. Whoa. Dude.

Wow. Whoa. And I love Mark. Like Fear, he's amazing. Departed, he's amazing. Boogie Nights, one of the great performances of my lifetime. Incredible. I Heart Huckabees, like the stud. That's one of my favorite films lifetime. I heart Huckabees like the stud

But then favorite films actually I heart Huckabees. It's a brilliant movie, but then like pain and gain So so bad. He's good and invincible. He's great in a lot. He's great in comedy He's great in contraband, but I'm just saying like the gambler pain and gain some of these like Father Stu kind of movies He's made. Yeah, the other guys can't do comedy. I liked him in other guys, but I heard he's really bad in flight risk. I think sometimes, Planet of the Apes, he's horrendous. Oh yeah, no.

I think sometimes you can just put him in a movie and you're like, dude, what the hell is happening here? Like, he just looks lost. He looks confused. He looks like he'll say things and I'm like, I don't think that's what those words are supposed to mean. Like you definitely memorize the script, but I think you have no idea what is happening. Yeah. Well, and I think this has a lot to do with the business of filmmaking, you know, cause I think Mark's a good actor and he's definitely,

I mean, he's produced stuff. I think he's a great all-around Hollywood guy. But again, if you're producing films, like my reference with De Niro earlier, next thing you know there's money involved, somebody wants the film to go good, let's throw some money at this guy, he's not right for the film, it comes down to casting, you know they're trying to sell it with a bigger name and then you make some Shit, you know, I think Brad Pitt said it best during Was that mrs. Smith the one he did with this yeah When that film came out he was in Rolling Stone and he says it's a miracle that you get two to four hundred people

on a set post-production pre-production, and it actually gets any box office success much less critical acclaim. It's a miracle. And I think that's just exemplary, a big long career like that, some good ones, some not so good ones, but let's face it,

Ted was fucking knocked it out of the park in my humble opinion. He was good. The one scene where he's gotta rip off off all the girls names. Very funny. And a lot of credit there goes to Seth McFarland, right? Because he's the writer and... Another bad actor. But his writing is stellar. His comedic mind. And that fucking teddy bear, man, that was just some funny shit.

He's prolific. and that fucking teddy bear, man, that was just some funny shit. And just to come out your pick a little bit. I think this is a risky one. This is risky. Because I never think of Mark as a bad actor. I think he, bad movies. Pain and Gain, I'm like, that was just a bad movie. Granted, I haven't really watched it fully,

but I think it's more so him just in bad movies is my take on him I guess you know what it is for me to because I think you're right like and I think Mark Wahlberg is a good actor Mm-hmm, but of the top tier a listers of like the Matt Damon's the Leos the George Clooney I put him in that level. Yeah, I think he is the worst of those guys. That's a good shout Yeah, that's where you gotta get him. Yeah, I never think I I've never had the thought of when is Mark Wahlberg gonna get the Oscar? Oh no, never. And he's better than he's

He's definitely the best actor on this list like of all these guys. He's got the most good acting Yeah, but yeah, I just don't think he's like, for the career he's had, he has some fucking movies where I'm like, like the gambler especially, I'm like, what is it? I'm like, I can't believe he's this bad in this. Like he's saying dialogue and you're like, he had to play an English teacher in that,

who writes books? It was kind of bad casting. But I respected that he went for it, but he's like talking to me, he's like, none of you have the talent to be Shakespeare. And you're like, did you just learn these words? Yeah. That's hilarious.

Okay, that's a good pick because it creates fodder. It's gonna be divisive. It's divisive. Okay, this next pick, this guy, we all know him. I mean, he's a household name, but he's not like, he's terrible. He's been on another one of our lists. We've drafted him in another draft and we made fun of how bad he is in his movies and it's kind of hilarious.

Also the way that he got into his career is hilarious too, but he's just kind of the weirdest guy of all time is Steven Seagal. Oh, good pick. Yeah, good pick. Just one of the weirdest, oh damn, he's right there, okay. And I've met this guy in real life in- Oh, you have? At Valet, I was helping him out, he came out,

and dude, I didn't even recognize him, he was wearing shades, hat, and he comes in and he goes, meh-meh-meh, meh-meh-meh and he comes at me and goes, get the white Mercedes. Get the white Mercedes. Get the white Mercedes. I'm like, what? Get the white Mercedes. White Mercedes.

Get the white Mercedes. He was pointing at his car for the white Mercedes. I go, the white Mercedes? He goes, white Mercedes. And I pull up his car and he gets in, dude, and I guess maybe he tipped the doorman or something like that. No tip, just drove off.

I was like, what the fuck, what was that? And he's like, that was Steven Seagal. I go, oh my God. But dude, his movies are hilarious. His fighting style, like there's literally movie, his fighting style, like as far as choreography goes, so like Keanu, he rips, like he gets into it. He moves around, he's athletic.

Steven Seagal, dude, like he's just going. A keto, it's all hand grips. So it's the lamest of the, and it's impressive what he does, like I can't do that, but it's the lamest of the action movements, in my opinion, like it's not even close to Bruce Lee, it's not even close to what these Jackie Chan other guys are doing.

A horrendous actor, very bad actor. I'd say he's Keanu without the star power. Boom. Yeah. And without the decency. With Keanu, you're like, oh, he seems like a good guy. With Steven Seagal, you're like,

he's doing weird shit. And everyone, the people who did SNL said he was the worst host. Like he did a scene where he beat up. Oh, I'd love to see that. Yeah, he like rewrote a scene where he just beat everybody up in the scene. And then at the beginning,

instead of doing a monologue, he just did a five minute sincere guitar song. And they were like, dude, what is happening? And famously, sorry, famously, Mike Lovitz was the most powerful agent in Hollywood. He's the guy who started CAA. Steven Seagal was his karate instructor. And Mike Lovitz was so powerful at the moment.

He just looked at him and was like, I'm gonna make you a movie start and then just did it. Boom which is a shot at the industry and another thing that we hate about the industry for my is this my last pick we're doing for yeah let's just do for for my last pick here another thing we hate about Hollywood is nepotism and this is a good kid. Yeah dude. He was the worst kid of all time. Yes, say it. Jaden Smith, dude. Oh. Oh, you guys had someone else, fuck.

No, but close, close. I'm going with Jaden Smith. Your list is awesome. This kid, have you seen After Earth? Bro, I was excited to see it. Dude, I love Will Smith's movies, bro. Like Will Smith's movie, the bad boy, he was in so many amazing movies,

I was like, fucking let's go. I think he was like one of the biggest box office, like bankable dudes of all time. Famously turned down the matrix. Says it's one of the biggest mistakes he ever made bankable dudes of all time. Famously turned down the matrix. Says it's one of the biggest mistakes he ever made. But thankfully he did, cause Keanu rips. Fucking Jaden Smith is like acting like,

it's like Michael Jordan's kids not good at basketball. Jaden Smith is the worst. He maybe is the worst actor. Wouldn't talk about a wooden performance dude. Wow. And then it makes you mad cause he gets in there cause it's his last name Smith. So did you guys see him at the Grammys? He wore like the house on his head.

Yeah. So he's walking in, there's a hilarious clip. He's walking in someone from like the press is like, yo Jaden, he's like, what? He's like, you look retarded. I'm sorry. He's like, you look retarded bro.'m sorry. He said that. He said that. He's like, you look retarded, bro. He just kept walking.

I could still laugh. He says thank you. He says thank you. He says thank you, dude. And who? The press said that? Just some guy with a phone, I think, but it was, he's like watching the red carpet, you know.

Yeah. Yo, Jaden. He's like, yeah, you look retarded, bro. He's like, thank you. He just keeps walking. Oh my God. Dude, not my pick. Yeah, you look pretty tired, bro. Thank you Dude not my pick but also Will Smith maybe bad in dramas. Oh, yeah like Yeah, I think you well

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to receive free dessert. With my last pick, you know what, I feel really good about this one. It's a boring pick because he's boring in everything. Seems like a good guy. I feel bad picking on him. I get no juice from this. I get no juice from saying his name. That's the problem. There's nothing there. It's inert. You know what it is? It's pasteurized milk. There's nothing bioactive in this guy. I'm going Sam Worthington. Oh, yeah Yeah, dude from Avatar Avatar. Yeah Terminator Genesis

You know, why is this guy? I feel like he's like available when Matt Damon is. Oh, yeah he's in the Clash of the Titans movies and Yeah, I feel terrible because he's probably a decent dude, but like, dude. Vanilla. Just nothing ever in his delivery or in his faces. You're just like just a blank slab of handsome. Yeah, he's handsome.

He's got the looks. He's got the looks. But yeah, you're right, dude. Like if a movie's coming out and it's like, dude, Sam Worthington's the lead. I don't think anyone's taken this pic, so I'm gonna say his name, and he could have made a list maybe.

He's like a Christian Slater a little bit. Where you're like, he sort of duds a movie. Remember Christian Slater from Broken Arrow? I love Slater though. Really? Well, but I agree with you. I feel like his energy tanks. I feel like he's got Christian Slater energy,

but without the acting moves. Well, the pitch on Slater was always that he was doing a bad Jack Nicholson impression. You're right. Oh, dude, if you watch the mashups, it's amazing. Yeah. And with Sam Worthington, I think he's doing a bad impression of Driftwood.

Dude, yeah, good pick. Zing, dude. Sorry, bro. It's tough. I had to take it to him. It's tough because he seems like a good guy, Dude yeah, good pick. Zing dude. Sorry bro. I had to take it too. It's tough because he seems like a good guy, but it's a good pick. Yep. Those ones hurt.

That one hurt. You had to take your dog behind the barn and put him down there. Yeah, the first three guys I was like, they can take it. They deserve it. With Sam I'm like, he's an innocent. All right, my last pick. This one is going to be painful because I love this character. I love his flow.

I think his handsomeness really kind of just, it made the part work for me, but it is bad acting. And he's got some iconic lines. I think a part of it is George Lucas's fault because his writing is just bad. I think George Lucas is overrated. Sorry. No, it's true. But I gotta go with Hayden Christensen. Oh, yeah. Nice. Great pick.

Great actor. Yeah. Very bad. You know, I love Revenge of the Sith. Do I love it for his acting? No, I love it for the lightsaber fights. Why do I watch Star Wars lightsaber fights? The force. Honest. Why do I love Star Wars lightsabers?

But you know, and you know what, he got second chances and Obi-Wan, and he was in takers You know he wore fedora didn't really work But you know he and he's got that famous line I don't like sand. It's coarse. It gets everywhere He's a horrend he's really bad dude, yeah. He's so bad. You're like, that's Vader and he, and it's like,

Vader's one of the most iconic characters. Yeah. Yeah. And you're gonna be that bad as him. Yeah. Especially the kid who played young Anakin did a good job, that little kid. Yeah.

And then it becomes Hayden Christensen, you're like, okay, hot dude, now the poor man, let's go, let's rock. He's hot and you can see maybe there's a little bit of darkness in there. But I think there's probably a way better cast. You know who would've done a better job who's also not a good actor though?

Maybe Alexander Pettifer. He could've been a little bit better. Dude, you got all nine votes for the third round, Steven Seagal. Steve does the first hire, I've seen that. All 900 votes. You got all of them. That's the first I've seen that all 900 votes Dude yeah, that's a Christian sins bad. I mean you can tell too cuz he never really popped in anything else I would say his Matrix movie the the one movie he ripped shit in is shattered glass

Where he plays like a kind of a conniving journalist? He's very good in that but it's you know what it it's good cuz you know, he's kind of a conniving journalist. He's very good in that. But it's, you know what, it's good because you know how he's kind of a whiner? Yeah. His character's a whiner. Oh yeah. So he's like, why are you picking on me?

Yeah. And he's very believable. No one likes a whiner. No, he's a moaner. Speaking of whiners, do you ever remember that SNL one with Doug and Wendy whiner? I don't know. Oh no. You guys never seen that? No. I've seen a lot of SNL fuck. Doug and Wendy whiner Delphia whiner

Yeah All right, try to take us home. yeah, okay take us home again with the potential unpopular one, but I'm gonna go with and I've seen this guy live as well and I Don't really like his comedy, but his acting is fucking horrible and his name is Kevin Hart His acting is fucking horrible and his name is Kevin Hart. Oh, dude. Good pick, dude. Yeah, good pick. That might be pick of the draft.

I think so. You snuck that in there nicely, dude. Wow, dude, good pick. He's all one level. Yes. Even his standup is like, eh. And I went and saw it, and big theater out in Arizona, by the way, and the three guys he had warming up were incredible.

And yeah, I was just bored to tears. I probably left early and his acting sucks. I saw him speaking of the Rock, you got the Rock over there? Don't you Dwayne the Rock Johnson? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he did a movie with him and it was just stupid. Like, oh my God, there's so much studio money here.

And it's just, what is that? Just studio money? Is that it? And this is what we're making? I know, yeah. No heart. No heart, no funny, right? This is not funny. It's stupid. And yeah, bad move, guys. He's one of those guys who's, he's made it very clear

once he started to pop, he's like, I'm once he started to pop he's like I'm in it to be a mogul. I don't care about the art, I don't care about the like I'm in it to make a ton of money and sell the most tickets. And you can see with his stand-up, his stand-up is like you know he's a talented performer but like it's it's the material is kind of he just dumbs it down so everyone can kind of understand I think. And then his acting, his movies are just like, oh, I'm just gonna do this because the rock's in it.

Dude, that movie with Mark Wahlberg, your pick, and Kevin Hart where it's like they're like in nature or something like that. Yeah, it's like he's trying to be, Mark Wahlberg's the cool guy, it's like a bachelor party thing. Yeah. Oh, dude. I remember seeing a trailer where there was like

a fake cheetah involved. I was like, I got mad Oh dude. I remember seeing a trailer where there's like a fake cheetah involved I was like I got mad Yeah, he's a good pick I think we he's one level is so true like you don't even have to see a Kevin Hart movie and you know What it's gonna sound like the whole time. Mm-hmm. I don't mean serious right now. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Really? Really? Yeah.

He was good in 40 year old virgin. He was great in that. He was so good in that. See, I don't understand what you're saying. Someone taking his disrespect. Watch your mouth and help me with the sale. He was really good in that. That was his best part.

That's when he was young, right? When he was young and pure and going after it. And he was- Totally. But once he made it, it was like, everything was just canned. He phoned it in. And some arrogance came into it too, which is warranted because of the success.

But like, you're like, all right, dude, relax. Yeah. Yeah, there's a good list by everybody. I think I had the weakest one. Y'all drafted like monsters, dude. Should we do some uh some quick? Honorable mentions we got most is Aaron on the horn. Yeah, I'm gonna call him in a sec I mean, there's a Chuck Norris Chuck Norris sly Stallone. Maybe a little bit. He's bad in Tulsa King

I love sly Pete Davidson, but you Davidson you got to give it to Chuck Norris because he's just fucking He can really fight. Yeah, he's a good fighter for real Yeah, and he started out with you know Bruce Lee back in the day. Yeah Sticell slice alone gut was so bad, but I mean he did Rocky got the he was just himself And he struggled so hard he got that he got the Academy. We love him himself and he struggled so hard he got that he got the academy we love him yeah we love him for sure and and then another person who has gotten better with acting although once he got over that over the hill his formula movies just they didn't get any better yeah Orlando Bloom John David Washington I

thought was a good net bow pick. Oh, oh yeah. Denzel's kid. He so wouldn't. I think he's bad. I saw him in a play, he was all right. Dude, okay, so this is more overrated. I think my Mark Wahlberg pick was bad

because it's more of like an overrated actor. But I do think he's bad. But this one is kind of more in the overrated category, I guess. George Clooney. Like of those top tier one actors I think he's kind of the worst one. Yeah, he's not, he's just the most charismatic guy

that ever exists. And super handsome and classy. He's got a lot of like the, it's like a beautiful looking car but when it has to take the turns you're like, we're going, it's not happening. Eric Banner. Oh, Taylor Lautner's bad. Oh, he's bad. Oh, I. Eric Banner. Oh, Taylor Lautner's bad.

Eric. Oh, I think Eric Banner. I think Eric Banner can be amazing and stuff. Like Chopper is like best actor that year. But there's some movies where you're like, even in Troy, there's moments where he has to like make a face and you're like, that looks very uncomfortable for you.

I just, we watched Black Hawk Down. Yeah. Oh, he's sick in that. Why do you do it? Who? Yeah, you do it cuz you you wore junkie. No, you do it back cuz the man beside you sick Yeah, and let me also say I'm the worst actor of any route everyone here. So I don't think you're bad acting You keep saying that I'm pretty bad. You can do characters. You're like tough guys shit like that I mean like acting in a TV show scripted on bad

I think I can act decent on like prank stuff or like real-life stuff if I'm writing it But nah man scripted you guys are amazing. I think Troy's actually really good at TV You two are like legit actors. I can feel I can just see it when we're doing it, but I'm good at watching stuff You're good at directing you know you have taste Orlando Bloom Yeah, yeah, that's that's what I. Orlando Bloom? Yeah, he's bad. That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna pick him and then I was like,

dude, I like him too much. Yeah, there's some guys that I, Nick Cage was famously one. People are like, he's bad. He's done so much shit, but I love him too much. I'm not picking him. Yeah, and his high-end talent is pretty insane. Dude, Jason Statham.

Oh, very robotic, very one thing. Oh, dude, you say that. It's a bad Jason Statham. Oh, very robotic, very one thing. Oh, there you say that. It's a bad Jason Statham. And then Caspar Van Deen. Okay, what scene? I don't know. The main dude from- Oh, he was terrible.

Yeah, the guy from Starship Troopers, the main guy. Oh my gosh, he's the worst. He's the worst. He was so terrible. Yeah, he was real bad. Oh, he's so bad. But he's just not that famous, so I didn't pick him. Yeah, but he's so bad.

Rico, he's so bad. Yeah, he's a real bad actor. He's very bad. And he's just not that famous, so I didn't pick him. But he's so bad. Rico, he's so bad. Yeah, he's a real bad actor. He's very bad. And then- All bad actors. Do you need Richard in that? You guys let me have chicks, so Tori Spelling, she was horrible, and that was nepotism.

Yep, she is really bad. You know what's interesting? No one went after Schwarzenegger. I don't put disrespect on Arnold's name. That's my thing, too. You can't disrespect Arnold. And he's just his second language. I'll say if you were the biggest movie star in the world, what right do we have to say you were the worst when you were the biggest movie star in the world? And he delivered

probably the best line of all time. I'll be back. Perfectly. Yeah I don't actually think he's a bad actor. I think he's just like he's such a unique human. It seems bad because no one else looks or sounds like yeah Troy you you're a golds gym guy. Yeah. Yes, would you see would you lift with Arnold sometimes I? Saw him you guys got closer to him than I did I got a picture with him, but You guys threw down at the Arnold deadlifting classic or whatever it was at the pier That's awesome. I was cheering you guys on. But dude, how sick is Gold's? Gold's is great. I mean, when I lived here in LA,

I worked out there for 25 years. I love it. Mickey Rourke, Jean-Claude Van Damme, all the big bodybuilders were there. All the ones that died tragically. You know who I saw there is RFK doing pull-ups. Oh yeah. In jeans. Oh yeah. Whoa, working out in jeans. Yeah.

But he takes testosterone, right? TRT. I'm being a hater, but he takes TRT, right? Yeah, he does. Isn't that synthetic? Yes, he does. Now, I have a big pet peeve with people that take steroids and don't tell people that they're taking steroids,

but they sell you their secret diet and exercise program. Oh yeah, it's crazy. Oh yeah, bro. And so- No, I'm okay with people doing TRT. I just think it's, let us know. I just think there's a better way and I'm living proof of it.

Ashwagandha? The sunlight, yeah, sunlight, ashwagandha, chelagete. You know, nutritionally you can hit it, you can get better sleep. Guys are, you know, they always ask me, oh, how do you boost your testosterone? How's your sleep? Oh, what do you to bed before 10 get to bed at 9 or 8 and see how your testosterone you because that's the the regeneration phase but

my my annoying point is like it's processed it's like we're against processed food but what's more processed than synthetic testosterone or exogenous hormones totally I mean that is I mean, those are drugs. Those are drugs and that's cheating. I mean, steroids was always cheating. That's why it's still cheating in certain sports. Yeah, I mean. I like that he's jacked.

And some people do that. I mean, Gordon Ryan is doing it in jujitsu right now. But his gut, dude, he has stomach problems all the time. He's good, the people don't talk about the side effects. And he's aging. He's 30. He looks 45. I know.

I mean, kick my ass. Strangle me, put me in a pretzel with his left foot only. What about HGH? Same thing. Exogenous hormones. Make sure, it could make your organs larger. Slapping your balls, drinking your urine. How about that?

No, nobody wants to talk about that. Just give me the drugs. I've always 100% with you, and then you bang, you hit it. And I'm like, nah, there's a middle, there's a middle. You're like, I don't know if that's the binary I'm working with. Yeah, yeah, but I like it, I like it. It's always exciting.

Always exciting. I'm running my first marathon next month. Yeah? Any tips you have to, I don't know, I guess, should I ice bath before? Is there anything I should do to prevent injury? It's kind of a very basic general question, but. What shoes are you running in?

What's that? What did you choose to run in, shoes-wise? The Nike Pegasus. Okay, so you didn't wanna go with minimal, you didn't wanna go barefoot or any of that stuff? No, but is running, I mean, I'm loving it, but I guess is long distance running just generally a bad idea, longevity-wise?

I think for habituation, you can definitely get into premature aging and running patterns. I see old runners with injuries and they start, they're going down the street and I lived in Santa Monica next to Palisades Park. So I would watch old school runners all the time and you would see them. They'd get into a pattern, their shoulder would be hiked. One girl I used to watch and she had a knee brace one year and then two knee braces and then she, you know, but she had to get the runners high.

She was back there and her knees were all blasted out. I started doing knees over toes guy stuff, walking backwards on the treadmill or you can do it in nature on the grass as well. You have to watch it because I did fall over and I cut my hand one time. And neurologically, it takes a lot of energy to walk backwards. So it's amazing training, cross training, and it really helped my knees.

So I just think that if you're habitually running and habitual cardio also is not a good way to build muscle. also is not a good way to build muscle. Yeah. And. How about this? How about one long run a week and then I supplement it with, I do hot yoga sculpt,

I'll do pushups, pull ups, body squats in between. Do you think that's a good formula? Yeah, great. Look, there is no bad exercise. You know, you should do the ones that you enjoy. If you want a good exercise, long term for longevity, walking is the best exercise, in my humble opinion. It's the way we're designed to move through time and space. If you're working with corrective exercise and your posture and everything to make sure that you have a good gate. And again, you know, I started walking backwards after I was 55

and I've done it for the last three years in the incline, especially on the treadmills. And it's worked wonders. So I think if you're cross training, remember it's flexibility, stability, strength, and then power. You can't have one without the other. So mobility, flexibility, stability,

being able to stand up, those are the most important. And then you can start building strength and power beyond that. So hot yoga, the only thing I have to say about that is it can deplete your yin, right? It can take a lot out of you. And so- You like that though, you like being emptied.

I do, yeah. Once a week? I've been doing, I do it probably two maybe three every day. This guy likes to empty the tank Yeah with the sweat like that. I love it. Yeah, that's an hour and a half Look, I just watch and see if you get burned out. See if your skin, you know ages a little bit more than Well, hold on. We got like we got erin on the on the horn. He's been listening for a while. Oh, great. Aaron, what do you think? Aaron.

You. What up, Aaron? What? Am I walking backwards? Legend, yeah. Is Chad doing too much hot yoga, dude? Yes. Oh, bro.

Aaron, did you get the list from Jake? Yeah, I got the list. Do you want me to recap? Yeah, we did worst actors. Go for it, bro. Okay, we've got Keanu Reeves, Zach Efron, Megan Fox, Kevin Hart, Tommy Wiseau, Justin Timberlake, Chris Klein, Aiden Christensen,

Ryan Reynolds, Ashton Kutcher, Mark Wahlberg, Sam Worthington, and then finally Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Tyler Perry, Steven Seagal James Smith What do you think there's just something about hearing your list out loud that scares you You know you hear it. You just go. Oh I'm trying to read it straight. So no one gets any clues, but I have some ideas of who's who Yeah, I mean I got some opinions I personally don't think he on is a bad actor

I think he's had some some rough lines to have to read in his lifetime But that said that's still a pretty good list Hayden Christensen is he a bad actor or you just work with the worst director of all time George Lucas Maybe discussed Is he a bad actor or you just work with the worst director of all time George Lucas? maybe discussed I love that Sam Worthington's on here because I do think he's kind of worthless Which is ironic with his last name The fact that Sagal that mentioned bless you bless your heart Whoever put him on their list list I think I'm ready to

rule if you guys are okay and last last place I think I'm gonna go with the Keanu list Keanu is that gonna find Megan Fox Kevin Hart? That was Troy's list. I think I'm gonna go with the Keanu list. Keanu, Zac Efron, Megan Fox, Kevin Hart. That was Troy's list. I think they are, I mean Megan Fox I think is legitimately bad. Kevin Hart's doing comedies, how you really judge. Zac Efron I think has had some rough stuff to work with but I think he's coming out of that. And Keanu's a wedge and I'm never gonna badmouth my boy.

Keanu. He's lovable. We talked about it. It was a hot pick up top. It really, really. It set the tone. It set the tone. He'd just been talking about not busting,

and then we got into that and we were like, dude, this is just all thrill, no fill. This is top pod moments. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I can't wait to listen back. Number three, number three I'm gonna go Ryan Reynolds action creature Wohlberg. I think Wohlberg is good. Reynolds I think people just get graded over his self-referential comedy but I think he's a bad actor. No he's technically good he is a technically good actor but likeability is zero don't you just want to hit him

that's your opinion I don't know I like right right oh I forgot and then for two Dwayne the Rock Johnson tower parry. Chad takes it all. Whoa. Number one is Tommy Wiseau, Kimberlake, Chris Klein. Chad's happy dude. Dude I was looking at my stats. I was looking at my stats dude. I haven't gotten a dub in maybe a year. Really?

I've been on a heater dude. Well you nailed this one man. The chat was loving it, everybody was loving it. I mean there's a wall to wall win bro. Dude this feels good. Thank you Aaron. After you've hurt me so bad on the rockstar draft it's good to be back in your good graces.

Probably our most hated draft by the way. Yeah. All, the comments were just you guys don't know music you guys Yeah, I think you can't go wrong you start with Tommy ways though he's he put himself in that movie with his own money or some somebody's money and and put billboards around LA and sorry buddy he is the bad actor Timberlake I don't know if I've ever liked anything Kimberly's ever done I mean that's just me but I'm a man who was 18 in 2000 Chris Klein he had plenty of opportunities to get better. He never did. Or Hayden Christensen, we'll just never know.

Well said Aaron. Aaron, I think you're gonna be, yeah. Good. That was good. I like, this is our first worst list. It was fun. Yeah, it's fun. This was good.

Yeah. I left one of the worst guys out and he's right up there with Tommy Wiseau, but Dennis Woodruff, do you remember this guy? Who's Dennis Woodruff? Well, he drove his car around town saying that he was the best actor in the world. This was my era, so this would have been late 80s, 90s. He was there and he made it into Mulholland Drive

with David Lynch. Yeah. And I mean, this guy literally would roll around and he made it into Mulholland Drive with David Lynch. And I mean, this guy literally would roll around. And then David Lynch allowed him to audition and he was fucking terrible. And he couldn't act whatsoever. And he drove around town saying he was the best actor forever and ever.

I've seen this guy at Coffee Bean. I know exactly. Is he still alive? Yeah, bro, I've seen this guy at coffee bean. I know exactly still alive Yeah, bro. I've seen this guy at coffee bean. I've seen him as well. Yeah. Yeah Wow, man I mean he made a big stink about the best actor and you can see him in Mulholland Drive. He sucked really bad I'm glad I think I forgot about this guy, but that's the that's my Tommy Wiseau right there This might be the saddest dude that there this. This guy's bumming me out, dude. Yep, yeah. That's awesome.

And I used to think, you know, cause when I moved here, you know, I was in acting as well and I did my best and I got out there and I, you know, I thought, oh, this guy, I give him credit. He's fucking doing the guerrilla marketing thing and at the nth degree, right? But then when I saw him in Mulholland Drive,

I was just like, God, he sucks. No wonder he can't get a job. Yeah. That's like a good documentary waiting to happen. Like he gets his big moment and he just tanks it and then it's like, it's the opposite of like, I don't know, the underdog story. Oh, he died in 2024.

No, dude, I'm telling you, this guy's alive, dude. No, he died, bro. Oh, he just died? He just died. 72 years old. You might have been the last person 2024. No, dude, I'm telling you, this guy's alive, dude. No, he died, bro. Oh, he just died? He just died? Yeah, 72 years old. You might have been the last person to see him, dude. Yeah, I probably haven't seen him since, like, yeah, I've spent a couple months.

Dude, I'd see him at a coffee bean because it's on my way to work, and I'd see his car. Yeah. Oh, speaking about documentaries and comedy in general, because of you guys, my friend is making the Cheech and Chong. Oh, really? And it'll be out in April. I'm gonna go have rib eyes with him tonight. Dave Bushell, big shout out to him and I'm a huge Cheech and Chong fan.

How do you spell his name? Dave Bushell. I know him. Yeah, cool guy. Did he help produce Lars and the Real Girl? Sling Blade and yeah what was oh he did that one piece on Jim Carrey in 2017 when he was painting I need more color. Dude I know this guy this was the first guy in Hollywood I met ask him about ask him about. I'll definitely talk to him about you guys

today. Yeah dude I know him really well and and so whoa what a small today. Yeah, dude, I know him really well. And so. Whoa, what a small world. Yeah, I met him through Woody Harrelson's brother, Brett Harrelson, and I was gonna take him down on the Amazon. He's still driving a bike? I'm sure, I mean. He had a big Harley when I last. Once a motorcycle guy, always a motorcycle guy.

So, but I'm gonna go hang out with him tonight. That's amazing, small world. Aaron, thank you so much, brother. Yep. I got a bounce. I gotta go record Joe. Oh, nice. Later, Aaron. Later, beast.

All right. What is Joe? Our buddy, Joe Marisi. Yeah. He's a famous fat wiener. Okay. Also, dude, okay, I wanna bring this up on the pod. We go and have a guys night at Dresden. Fun night.

Amir catches a bunch of flack for ordering a steak medium well And then trying to get a one steak sauce for I saw that classic guy rift We all bash him on it fun stuff all I order is a shrimp cocktail. I get ven mode for 90 bucks We did even distribution on the bill. So do you guys think it should be even distribution on the bill or line item? I think here's the thing. This was discussed around the table. I left before the bill got paid. Remember I darted out quick? No you didn't. I was there when we said this?

Yeah. No that's a lie. You were there during the discussion. No way. I left the same time as you. We did not discuss it. It was discussed around the table. That we're gonna do even distribution? Yeah, I think,

someone was saying, I think the majority of the people were like, oh, well I ordered drinks, blah, blah, blah. That makes up for whatever. So it was discussed. I don't think so. The bill came, it was discussed. No way, dude.

No, you're just happy I subsidized your Piccata Honestly, I didn't mine wasn't expensive except maybe the chocolate cake But I got piccata and I got a Shirley Temple. So you probably got bone another 35 Definitely got bone if you're not getting booze you're getting boned on a group dinner. Yeah, it's something that you've got to just Go into it. You need to decide beforehand, are we splitting this down the middle or are we going check by check?

You just gotta. Kevin says I can't be mad because he was too baked to understand what was happening. I'm like, well you're the leader of the Dresden night. He is the top dog. Well, whoever got that tomahawk lucked out, huh? Yes. Dude, I think I was thinking about like,

I think a lot of women fake orgasms, you know? I think if you're having casual sex, I prefer if you fake an orgasm. Like dude, if you've ever seen, in the rare occasion where it's happened to me, have you ever seen a woman actually cum? When you look at it, you're like, this is too much, I probably shouldn't be seeing this.

I think, better if they fake it. You're like, yeah, that's more like what friends do. We don't, we don't. It's very friendly. Yeah, if they fake it, it's nice. They're like, hey, we need to feel like there's an ending to this. How about I give you a big show?

I'm a nice lady. They'll shake their legs a little bit. They'll scratch you a little bit. You're like, oh yeah, I really got it revved up. But like a real orgasm, like the look in someone's eyes, the vulnerability, you're like, whoa. Like, I don't think you should see that unless you're gonna marry the person,

or unless you're gonna really take care of him. Because there's like a vulnerability where you're like, I agree. That's extreme, dude. You're like, whoa, dude. Don't look at me like that. Yeah, I mean, now I look in retrospect and everything. Most of my sexual escapades were fueled by drugs and alcohol.

You've got, I mean, when you penetrate a woman, you're gonna get the sum total of her emotional body, the quantum entanglement of the way her parents treated her, father, maybe she was sexually abused. The fiduciary responsibility of her, you know, ethical handling of business arrangements. Duly appointed federal marshals.

Pfft. I mean, look, it's a huge responsibility, let's just put it that way, right? And this is the way I'm training my kids now, because no one had this straight talk with me. And the world has gotten weird, because my son, who's a strapping young gentleman, he's like, yeah, he's still a virgin, he's 17.

I lost my virginity when I was 15. And so, so. I was kidding, I was a virgin till I was 24. But I tell my kids, look, sexual energy is very attractive, animal magnetism exists, you're wired by your hormones, make your decisions wisely, because you can get a disease or you can make babies, and you've seen us go through our divorce,

so choose wisely as much as you can and be cognizant of your choices. That's it. Man, I thought that was gonna be way different. The what? The reason why you weren't busting. I thought you were gonna say get your calves jacked or fucking help set your traps.

Totally. But I love the honesty. Well, and then, you know, if you wanna look into sexual kung fu and the withholding of ejaculation, I've been practicing that since before the first time I went on your show, is back 2017. I think Yeah, you guys that was gnarly when you guys took that guys. I got a run. All right, let's call it

That was really fun guys Troy great to see you as always you were non-stop action brother. You bring it. I love it You guys are awesome legend good to chat. No great dub. Thank you. And try it where can they check you out if you wanna like Instagram, social media, all that stuff? Certified HealthNut across the internet. CertifiedHealthNut.com. My book, the audio is finally up after four years.

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Tell Bouchelle, I said hi, he'll remember me. Okay, yeah. I'll have a good conversation with him. I'm gonna get some Shilajit too. Yeah, Shilajit. If you need advice These guys are really nice So is Sheila Jeet too. Yeah, Sheila Jeet. I just want to have the friends beside you Go and see Go and see Class 15

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