Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 386 - Classic Solo

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Today is another classic solo ep with just the bros! We start off the pod by talking about the Rockstar lifestyle and how they navigate dating. We take a deep dive on the Shedeur Sanders Draft and listen to the prank call - Will the Falcons punish the kid who made the call? We talk about a new form of energy that could power the whole world. We also take some great callers! #goingdeepwithchadandjt  We are live streaming a Fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://shop.chadandjt.com/ Come see us on Tour! Los Angeles & San Diego are the next shows!Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Thanks to our Sponsors:HomeChef - Best Meal KITS! Get 50% off your first box plus free dessert when going to https://www.homechef.com/godeep  Hims - Hair Loss solutions. Go to https://www.hims.com/godeep to  start your free online visit today! Cornbread Hemp - The best CBD products! Go to https://www.cornbreadhemp.com/godeep and use code godeep at checkout for 30% off your first order!  PRODUCTION & EDITS BY: Jake Rohret

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he's pondering the weight of his own masculinity all the time. The more he speaks, the more he loses. Right. Morgan Wallen, don't say anything. Don't ruin the package. Just talk about God's country. Lana Del Rey at CH was like, I kissed him.

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He put on a good show. He puts on a good show. Comes out of a helicopter. He's like, yeah, I'm just so hung over. We were playing laser tag. It was sick. Remember that? Yeah. And he's a good, I think he's a good rapper. I think his pop punk album was sick. Remember that? Yeah. I think he's a good rapper. I think his pop punk album was good. And then I- I love Tickets to My Downfall. That's so relistable.

I listen to that all the time. I said it a while ago, I listened to it like two days ago. Do Bloody Valentine? Great. I mean, it just takes you back. It's such a good throwback to 2003. Yeah, it takes me back to COVID. I picture I'm at the pool at my mom's house.

I'm like, I was living. Dude, that's, yeah, that fires me up. And yeah, I like him. He just did a cover of Come Pick Me Up by Ryan Adams that I thought was really, I think that's such a beautiful song. So I liked his taste. I was like, that was a good song to cover.

You're a cool guy. Yeah. He's a good dude. Except for, I don't know if he's the best, I don't know if he treated Megan all that great which bums me out. No, I don't think he's a great partner. Do you think if you guys like saw him out and about he would say something about the video you guys did?

Oh yeah, yeah, we got good traction doing a video about him. Yeah, he seems petty so I think he'd say something. Yeah, he's like holding the grudge video you guys did. Oh yeah, yeah, we got good traction doing a video about him. Yeah, he seems petty, so I think he'd say something. Yeah, he's like holding the grudge against you guys. I would be happy if he liked me, but I'd be happier if he was mad at me. That'd be sick, we had beef with MDK. Yeah, if he was like, you fucking pieces of shit. You misrepresented me, man.

You made it seem like the whole crowd was shooting against me on machine gun. You guys are bullshit bitches. I'm like dude. He sees me you guys totally misconstrued what I said I just didn't understand your sign and you can't change my name because of that That'd be cool. I'm like dude. Let's sell this beef in, Ohio Would you fight him that'd be fun? Yeah. Yeah, I would find him GK Well, what do you think would you you do like, would you wrestle him? Just boxing? Yeah, I think I'd probably fake the hands, go for the ankle pick, get him to the ground,

try to get his back, choke him out. Now mind you, I know all those words, I don't know how to do it in real life. Right. But even knowing those words, I think gives me an edge. I think I'd get him in an arm bar. Oh, you for sure would snap that. You take that thing home with you. Oh yeah, even if he was tapping out, I'd just snap it. Bro, I love it. Yeah, that'd be him in an arm bar. Oh you for sure would snap that you take that thing home with oh Yeah, even if he was tapping I just snap it bro. I love it. Yeah, I was for Megan

Good luck fake playing your guitar after that and you do you think he fakes it? No, I think he's real Oh fuck. I just wanted to pick on him cuz we were beating his ass. How sick would it be to rip a guitar? That would be really cool. I wish I tried for years my guitar teacher quit but I On you or quit in general. He quit on me Yeah, so I mean it takes so much time. We were at it for a couple years and then one day just goes dude What are we doing here? Did you practice at all? Not as much. I tried I just you know My wrist just doesn't I can only move it like that like that's the only tempo I can strum at

And he's a nice guy. We learned a lot about each other. Do you need long fingers to do it well? I think that's good for the neck. Like if you're doing like chords and stuff, it's good to have some good long strong fingers. I think my hands might be too small for that guitar. Yeah, your hands are, but you know,

you measure them at shows and stuff with other people, other hand insecure people. And it's not horrible. I mean my brother has more sausage-y fingers, I think that'd be tougher for a guitar. Mine are a little bit more thin, so I think I could Little more dexterity. But yeah, I don't think I was

Is your brother gonna be pissed? You just said he had fat fingers. Yeah, I mean, he's on the Twitch actually, so he should be calling me right now. Yeah, he's gonna be mad. Yeah, he's on the Twitch actually, so he should be calling me right now. Yeah, he's gonna be mad. Yeah, he's calling me. Blocked. This is your show.

Yeah, yeah. Hold on, he's calling again. I'll talk to you later. Aw, dude. Big pwnage. Big pwnage on big bro. I love it. I like to see it.

You're cutting your own path. Yeah, he's pissed because his daughter listens too. She's like five. Oh. Yeah, and he's like, don't disrespect me in front of my kids. I'm like, well, don't have them listen to the show because that's what I'm gonna do.

Yeah, you're kind of programming in subordination. Yeah. I'm like, just take yourself to God's country. Sure, yeah, everyone's God's country is a different place Yeah, oh man How was your weekend dude, it was good what I get up to you Saturday we We were gonna go meet Dan Milstein, but it was raining so we watched how to train your dragon How is that you never seen how to train?

Oh, dude, it's sick. It's good. It's a really really good animated. Yeah, beautiful message really well told good world And the music is phenomenal. That's awesome. And the kids were like they love it They were obsessed with it, which was really cool. And then um, oh we took him to Barnes and Noble Oh, which was fun, And I read this great book, I read it in a day, because it's so easy to read. It's called City of Dreams, it's by the guy who wrote Savages, they turned that into a movie with Taylor Kitsch

and Aaron Johnson. So he writes just like, if you like the town, the movie The Town, this is like a good book for you. If you like Jon Bernthal, Jon Bernthal is every character in this book. That's awesome. It's that energy. If Jon Bernthal is an energy you like,

this is a book you'll like. So I got that book and then we went to the kids section. Barnes and Noble now is like half a toy store. Really? Like half of it is like toys for kids. Interesting. So they run around and then we met another really nice kid there who knew a ton about dinosaurs and he was teaching my kids about dinosaurs

and I started talking to his his mom and she like really opened up to me which was cool but uh she was a really really sweet lady and the kid was like so bright and he was teaching my kids about all the dinosaurs. He knew everything about dinosaurs. The kid was like a whiz. And it was really fun. So it's a good place to go hang. And then yesterday, dude I don't even remember. My life is like a blur. Oh, we took the kids to a park.

And they went up and down the slides and stuff, which was fun. Yeah. Yeah, what'd you get up to? I was mostly just editing. Yeah, the videos came out good. We recreated Good Will Hunting out in public. Yeah. I, dude, I was mostly just editing Yeah, the videos came out good. I created good will hunting out in public. Yeah, I Did I was crying laugh? Yeah, so we were JT's directing our movie scenes in public. We did good

Well hunting I was crying laughing doing the Harvard bar scene with Brett dude Brett was really funny. He's so funny and and the ladies like questions like I There's something I don't know what it was, but I was literally like going like just crying laughing going through the footage So I was editing a lot and then to glow it to the dog park and That's pretty much it dude Dude, Brett was so funny. There's a couple lines Brett had that because I couldn't hear when we were there on the day and then the line where Brett was like AI's wicked smart.

It's so funny. And then when you guys started cycling through this scene again with the lady and she was like, what are you guys doing? What are you guys doing? He's like, we had aht together and he kept saying aht. He was really, when we talked about him doing it, I was like, oh, he'll be funny. And he was even funnier than I thought he would be. He's so funny.

Such a great guy. He's such a great guy and he's such a sweetheart. And he's so like, I gave him a ride to and from the shoot and he's just so happy to be out shooting stuff. He's like, this is great man, just getting out there and just being out in the world. You know, I try to talk to one stranger a day and you know, it's been really positive for my life.

And he's just like, he's just such a funny dude. He's very funny all the time. All the time. And he gets it. He's like, he was perfect. Like I was watching in the edit, you said, I was like, man, he speaks at the exact right time Yeah, he's always funny. He's always funny. Yeah, and then Strider looked really great. Your acting is really good

Oh, thanks like when you come in and you're like doing the Damon at the bar I was like that was really good and then Strider in the wig we had starter play the douche from good will hunting like the snob at the bar dude And he just like just when he pops on camera, you start laughing. I think that was that and Brett, him and the wig, because he's playing the snob, so he's just so, he looks so ridiculous.

And he looks just like him. And then, and then, you know, she asks, she's like, is that a wig? And he goes, yeah. Yeah, it was really funny. Dude, he looks so much like the guy from Good Will Hunting that people, me and like Cheegus were standing outside watching and filming and people were coming up to me

and they were like, are you guys recreating Good Will Hunting? And I was like, yeah. They were like, he looks just like him. It's so funny. And people were texting their friends saying like the guy from Good Will Hunting and I was like, yeah, they were like, he looks just like him. It's so fun. And people were texting their friends saying like the guy from Good Will Hunting is here. It's dude, it's so, I think I'll play that next Sunday. It looks great so far. Yeah.

It's just so, I'm just so, I just can't stop laughing doing it so I want to like polish it up semi so it's right, but this is probably for off the pod No, no talk about it. I like the process. It's what we actually talk about. Yeah, just polish it so it we do it right cuz I mean we do the one scene the one with Ben Affleck where he's like in 20 years if you Yeah, I'll fucking kill you and that those two dudes those two guys were great Yeah, they're like the guys I kill you too. And he's like, in 20 years, if you yell, I'll fucking kill you. And those two dudes. Those two guys were great. Yeah, they're like, the guy's like, I kill you too. And he's like, where you guys from? Boston, makes sense. Yeah.

He's ripping a vape. That was funny. And then the last guy was, I showed it to Kennedy, that last scene. And when the last guy was like, if you guys watched Good Will Hunting, she was like, wait, so he connected Good Will Hunting but didn't know you guys were doing the seed?

That one was pretty magical. Yeah. And it came right on, that guy was such a sweetheart. I think people are really gonna be moved by that. And it came on the heels of a guy getting really upset at us and wanting to fight us. Yeah. That was a fun day.

That was like one of those magical moments where like afterwards when he told me the guy brought up Good Will Hunting, I started just laughing like yeah Not even like that. It was funny. Just like oh my god. How magical is that that it happened? and he's and he's so into it where he's like He's like he's like listen to him. It's okay. It's okay to be hurt Mm-hmm, and it's like it's very uplifting because it's what a good guy to just jump into a strange situation like that and just want

The best for people. Yeah, yeah. Very, very life-affirming. So that was a lot of fun. I also watched the NFL draft. Yes. The Shador Sanders draft as it will be remembered. I was all over it too. It's wild.

It was a big story. Crazy. I mean, he slides out of the first round. That was a big deal. Then he slides out of the second round. That was a big deal. Then he slides out of the second round and you're like, oh my God. And then he slides all the way to the fifth and you couldn't help but like talk about it.

It's like, what is going on here? I mean, some of these quarterbacks that went in front of him, like this Tyler Slough kid who's like 26 years old and does not have the stats that Shador had. Like Shador is good. Yeah, he's got some limitations But he's a good player. Uh-huh. And then so everyone's like, well, why did he slide? Why did he slide and I think Some people think it's racism Really? Yeah, and I just

don't Think that's the case. Yeah, like I think the NFL has a lot of cocky black guys. It feels a little random that they would just decide to like pull rank on this guy. And like the last three number one picks have been black QBs. I don't know. I think it had to be something else. I think he did really bad in the interviews, but like, do you know how bad you have to do to slide that much? And do you know how cocky you have to be? Like Cam Newton went number one, like Cam Ward's very cocky. They deserve it. They're awesome athletes. They're studs. They rip at football and you need to be confident.

It's a competitive space. But like he must have been so obnoxious in these interviews to slide that much. I mean Yeah, I mean that has to be it right because people were speculating to maybe this is a factor as well Is that his dad like it would be the the Sanders show? Yeah, they didn't want that to kind of And I think that was Stephen a Smith's argument. Yeah, I didn't see Stephen A. Smith. Some people have been saying that. I think, yeah, I think the Dion of it was scary because Dion has said in interviews,

like he would intervene if he thought his son was being mishandled by a team. Really? He said he'd do it behind the scenes, but he's like, I would do something. Yeah. And like he has a lot of media relationships because he's worked on all the networks. if he doesn't like you he could plug stories

everywhere and get on. He's obviously always on TV always filming everything. I mean I think it'll be good for Shador. I think he'll he I think he's good and I think he's tough. I think he'll want to prove haters wrong and he's better than the other guys they have in the room. Yeah it'll give him a chip on his shoulder like yeah Tom Brady kind of thing. Ideally, but he must've just been so bad. What I heard it was is Brian DeBole, which is like the Giants head coach,

gave him like a packet to read, like a prerequisite before coming to the interview. And when Brian DeBole referenced it in the meeting, Shudder had no idea what the hell he was talking about. So Brian was like, if you're not gonna study this, how the fuck can I expect you to study a playbook? There's a prerequisite for an interview and you can't even do that.

Like how the fuck are you gonna prepare for every week? It's crazy. We run like a spread offense, we like going, and then we like to put two tight ends and they're like, I don't run two tight ends, don't do that shit with me. If you do that shit with me, you guys are bitches. Yeah.

Like what are you talking about? It must be how it went. It had to be crazy, cause like to slide as much as he did, it just doesn't make sense. And I, yeah, I just don't buy it's cause like, I don't know, like I buy it's cause of a bad personality, but I think it must be worse than what we saw.

Cause so many football players have gigantic, like Josh Rosen had like the biggest ego in the world. Like Aaron Rodgers is a nightmare. Like these guys have gigantic egos and they still get drafted. And Cam Newton and Caleb Williams last year, that guy was a loon. Yeah, the biggest ego ever He was saying he wanted like part ownership of a team. Oh, that's right. They still took him number one

I mean he was like he's unbelievable, but Yeah, what? What do you think of the prank call? Dude, it was funny very good prank. I. It was from the Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator's son. Well, yeah, Jake was saying it was, the son got the number, but it was his friend who actually made the call. Yeah, I got the video right here

if you guys wanna watch it real quick of the actual prank call. And Shador's like, let's be legendary. Oh, I haven't seen it actually. You haven't seen it? Dude, let's be legendary. He says that. I haven't seen it actually. You haven't seen it? Dude, it's pretty hilarious. Oh, poor guy. I do feel for Shador.

Even if he messed up, I'm like, that's embarrassing and tough on you. Hey, is this Shador? This is Mickey Loomis here. Hey is this your dude? This is Mickey Loomis here the GM of the New Orleans Saints. How you doing? This is Mickey Loomis here GM of the Saints. Let's do it a good job. How are you man? We're gonna do weight Monday.

Yeah we have. It's been a long wait man. We're gonna take you with our next pick right here, man. This thing doesn't do nothing to you. Yeah, but you're gonna have to wait a little bit longer, man. Sorry about that. Okay. What does that mean? What? What'd he say? I don't know.

How you gonna ask us what it means when you was on the phone? You heard that? He said you're not the way Sorry about that I don't know what that word That's unbelievable, yeah, we're gonna take you out next pick man, let's be legendary you got to wait a little bit longer Sorry about that. Dude, it's a pretty like. The kid apologized, the defensive coordinator's son

apologized and I was like, maybe don't apologize, but his dad was probably reaming his ass. Oh, I was probably so pissed. Okay, do you think, so the kid stole the number from his dad's iPad and gave it to his buddy to do the prank call. I feel like his buddy was more like the ringleader of it. Do they stay friends after this?

Like is the DC gonna let the son still invite that kid over? No, not let him invite him, but are they gonna stay friends? I mean dude, here's the thing. I think, it looks like he goes to Ole Miss. Ole Miss, Ole Miss. I think he's probably gonna, everyone's gonna be stoked on him at school. Yeah, he's a legend.

He's a legend. It's just, he's probably not gonna be able to come to family functions. The friend. So, let's say they stay friends, he's not allowed to come to family functions. Ten years from now, the DC's kid is getting married, they're still buddies. Is the kid allowed to come to the wedding? Okay, here's my forecast of it all. So, right now, tensions are high,

because he put the guy's job at risk with the Falcons. Bad. When everything gets smoothed over, I think the DC will be like, dude, that was actually pretty hilarious. How long do you think? Statue of limitations on it. I think a few months.

Until everything's all clear. I don't think he's gonna forgive him in a few months. No. Take longer than that. Couple years. Cause here's the thing too, if the defense plays bad this year, and they fire the DC,

which happens a lot in football. Yeah. It'll probably be for on the field stuff. Yeah, but in the back of the DC's head He's gonna be like it's cuz that stupid prank right? Yeah Okay, so he he has to if they win a Super Bowl all is forgiven for sure. They want to see yeah if he gets fired He's gonna beat that kid's ass. I Want you to invite your friend over that's surprising dude. Yeah, okay, can you imagine dude? You get a call from your body You get a call from the owner. He's like what the fuck and you're like fuck man

Yeah, cuz it's such a high-stress job. I mean they cycle people in and out all the time, huh? It's a very tough gig. What do you think's hard? What do you think? do you think it's hard to stay in a presidential administration or on a- Football team? On a coaching and a football team. On a turnover? That's a good cue.

I think it's about the same. There's the apology. It's a good apology. Yeah, but he also spelled his name wrong. He spelled should oh yeah, but the U before the E. I've been making that mistake on Google too. That's funny. Dude, you know what's a really nice dad and son movement moment?

Like look up Chris Eubank and Chris Eubank Jr. This British boxer, Chris Eubank Jr., his dad's a legendary fighter. His dad's the best guy to listen to talk. He's like a warrior poet. He'd be like, when you're in the ring, he's British. He's like, can you fight a man? You exchange honor. You exchange love.

You do it through brutality. That is my art form. His son's a boxer now and his son was going up against this other guy. He's really close to his dad. And the other guy was like, you and your dad don't even talk anymore. Cause you bank and you bank junior were like at odds and you banks dad was like, my son's a disgrace. I will not be going to his fight. He is a disgrace. And the son was on TV like, dad, I love you. Please come to my fight. And then the dad shows up like right. I think they planned it all.

They must have dad shows up with his son Right before the fight and they came out to like a Drey song on like the strings and they walk out to the ring together And the aura was insane. Yeah, and then the son and then the oh more to it The dad had fought the other kids dad. Oh, wow years earlier. So it was like legacy on legacy Wow, look at that and then and then dude, they had a banger of a fight, like just an absolute war, like just ducking and throwing and just swinging. And the guys, the U-Bank junior won. He won this thriller and then like he was with his dad afterwards. And even the guy he beat was like, if I brought father and son back together, it was worth its weight in gold. Yeah. It was,

it was like straight out of, it was like Creed in real life. It was crazy. It's so beautiful. I'd recommend anybody just look up the video of them walking out to the ring together with some of the dialogue that went around it. Like I'll never be in my son's corner. He's a disgrace.

And he's like, and then they have a video of the kid when he's 13 telling his dad, I want to be a pro boxer. And his dad's like, you can't. To be a fighter, you have to be hungry. You grew up in these nice four walls. You'll never be a fighter. You don't have it in your heart. And the kid's like, I want to try, Paul.

And now his son's a world champ. Seeing, I got two things. First off, isn't there something about seeing a fighter's body that makes you just wanna work out? Yeah, very inspiring. Second, does that, as a father yourself, does that make you wanna change the way you parent your son? Or does it make you wanna try and create

that fire in his heart? I think they're gonna have it. I hope to God, I hope I have a little and that they'll get it. You know what, Lennox Lewis had a great quote when the dad was trying to tell the son not to be a fighter, the dad's like, let's say someone you know died in a horrible car crash

and you're worried about your kids and you don't want them to ever be in a car crash. Is the solution to never let them drive? Yeah. And then of course the answer is no. Like you just prepare them as best you can for what's tough about life. And then you let them go out there

and hopefully live it at full tilt. Yeah. And yeah, so I, you know what's funny? Dude, when I was like in my twenties and we were struggling to get stage time, I was gonna challenge Joe Rogan to like- I remember that. I was like, if I can survive one round in the ring with You like let me open for you. Yeah, and my dad was like do it. Yeah, and I remember my dad's friends

What dude Rogan's gonna like? Kill your son and my dad was like, I think it's a good idea. Yeah And I don't think it's cuz my dad wanted me to die I think the probably a little bit but I think it was also my dad was like he just like that I was Willing to put my balls on the table for what I wanted. I still think you should do it. He'd kill me now though, dude I mean back then I was a little more like yeah I would I wouldn't have made it probably but I would have been a I would have cared less What happened to me now? I'm like a little more there's more fear in my head, right? Like I'd be I'd be

The build-up to it. I'd be not in good spirits. He's in his 50s though. Yeah, I think he's almost 60, but he's all TRT'd out, so his metabolic age is probably like about the same as mine. You know what, and maybe it's just my algorithm, but it seems like people are starting to turn on Rogan a little bit I Mean, yeah, he's in a big way. I think it's hard to a Mean how can you be counterculture? How can you be like? Tearing down

The and poking at the power structures when you're best friends with them. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of it is he's so up Elon's butt. Oh, big time. And Elon has just like, you know, I'm not in the minutia of like what he's doing. But just his personality is so is's just not so unfunny. Yeah, like dude, just like don't like it's better to be mysterious. And the fact that he lied about being good at Diablo. The video game thing was crazy.

Like how first off if you're gonna brag about something, how old is he? Is he in his 50s? Yeah, I think he's like 56, 57. You're gonna brag about being good at Diablo? Like at least, at least brag about something cool. Our boy Mace was saying someone should make a movie about the PayPal guys and like how they all came to a prominence. Yeah. Because like how they all came to to to a

prominence yeah cuz like David Sacks from the All In podcast I think he was part of that and now he's the head of crypto he's the crypto czar for Trump and then Peter Thiel who's like had so much influence and Elon was in there as well they're just like a weird cast of characters and they've always wanted to kind of like remold the system and and they've always wanted to kind of like remold the system. And now they're kind of have their hands on the wheels. So interesting to see how it goes.

Dude, speaking to another political thing, I mentioned you don't want to talk about this. There's this Supreme Court case that I've been following that I think is really interesting. And it's these Maryland Maryland parents versus school district and I can send you the article Jake and it's the parents are frustrated Because they're hyper religious and The school changed the curriculum to better represent the population and added some books about LGBTQ people in there

but they had an opt-out so if you were like super religious you didn't have to be in the class when they were talking about like more uh you know gay inclusive stuff and trans inclusive stuff. And then a couple years ago the school said no you have to listen to it. And so the parents took them to court and now it's gotten kicked up all the way to the Supreme Court. But there's some stuff that I think is funny about it. One, the parents are Muslim. Some of them are Orthodox Jews. Some of them are Catholics.

So it's like the only time I've seen all these races come together to agree on something, and they all agree, enough with the gay shit And then the school district mishandled it like They they didn't really have a justifiable reason for why they couldn't allow the kids to opt out and honestly I think if you're telling parents like what their kids have to listen to You're gonna lose that fight most the time like and and the parents their lawyers did a good job Like they were like we're not saying take the books off the time. Like and the parents, their lawyers did a good job. Like they were like,

we're not saying take the books off the shelves. We're not even saying change their curriculum. We're just saying allow these parents to pull their kids out of it. And honestly, I think if you're a parent, you should be able to do that. Like even if it makes your kid, like this is funny too.

I think those kids are gonna end up getting bullied. Yeah. Like kids are gonna be like, what you can't hear about gay shit? And like punch them in the arm. Because like they're gonna hear about it. Like the other kids are gonna tell like, what you can't hear about gay shit? And like punch them in the arm. Because like they're gonna hear about it. Like the other kids are gonna tell them what they heard. It's not like it's not gonna get into their ears.

So I don't even know how useful it is to do the opt out. But yeah, the school was like, you gotta listen to it. You gotta be in there. And now I think the Supreme Court's gonna rule with the parents. But it's interesting if the school district did win, it could also be. It could cut the other way and be bad for gay people, because then school districts would have more power

over what the curriculum is and what kids have to hear. So like a more liberal school, but again, let's do more gay inclusive stuff. But then like a school in Texas in a small town could be like, let's do anti-gay stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have to listen to it. Yeah. So you almost kind of want the parents to win too because you don't want too much power on either side really.

And then what I think is interesting about it is we're fighting over like how much LGBTQ stuff should be included in curriculum when you're a kid and like when you're in high school. And I think there's good arguments about like how much sexuality do we put on the plate for any kid? But also it's like some of this stuff isn't sexual, we're just saying this guy's gay.

Like that's not inherently sexual, it's just representing someone's lifestyle. So there's stuff there. But the one thing no one's arguing about is like like when are we gonna put poly people in the books right like no one is like being like hey we should have more poly representation in children's books that's the next step I don't know if we're gonna get there like I think everyone will be like no no no like and I was laughing thinking about a kid's book where it'll be like, and Timmy wants four girlfriends.

Yeah. Wait, so, so they, so in these, in specific classes, they'll be like, hey, this is on the curriculum. So they'd be like, for this semester, we're gonna read this book. They've like ID'd the books so they know which ones it is So it's like hey, we're doing like good morning

Uh rick or something and then like the parents like okay. I don't want my kid So they'll take the kid out of class for that They'll put them in an auditorium and they'll do like individual study or something for like an hour interesting And and so it used to be allowed and then the school district decided kind of arbitrarily They're like we're not doing opt-outs anymore. You have to be in for all the curriculum. And then these hyper-religious people were like, no, that's not, you're actually being prejudiced,

you're being tolerant towards them and intolerant towards us. We have the right of religious freedom here, and that's violating us. We don't want our kids to listen to us. And then I think it's funny, it's like the parents could also be like, you're only allowed to opt out on human sexuality stuff but it is funny to me if it went farther and like

someone's like, I don't want my kid learning math. And dude, honestly, I think you should be able to do that. Like if it's your kid, whatever you want to do, if you want your kid to be an idiot, that's up to you, let it ride. Well, a lot of people, it seems like homeschooling is on the rise. How do you make sure that the parents aren't so dumb that they'll do a terrible job? I mean, that's what's happening.

We're coming up against a lot of stuff. This multicultural melting pot we're in, we're seeing how hard it is to move it all in one direction. We can't come it is to move it all in one direction We can't come up with a curriculum. We all agree on there's too many different groups that it's gonna be at odds with somebody and then what what's our How do we measure if what you're doing is good where we have a trouble agreeing on that too Yeah, they want them to be around other kids homeschoolers are a little different my friend Chad

Different Chadi group, but different Chad was homeschooled for a couple years and he was the man really Yeah, he did end up getting his girlfriend pregnant when we were in high school, but he also handled that like a G They're still married and have like five kids now and he like has a banging job So that's cool, but he was just a different dude. He was just cut different I mean, I can you imagine homeschooling I would never be able to listen to my parents. It would have been hard for me. I would have been really lonely. Yeah, right? Yeah. That was an interesting case. I think I was like...

I mean, how do parents have the time? That's what's true too. People are like, yo, so many parents are going to opt their kids out of classes. Now I'm like, do you know how many parents aren't paying attention? Yeah I love my dad to death. He provided a tremendous life for me. That guy had no clue What was going on for me scholastically or not going on for me? I mean he knew when I got the report card that I was failing all my classes

But in between that he was just like what do you learning about? He's like, oh yeah, it's crazy. My dad barely even knew my grades. Yeah. He'd be like, unless I got a really bad grade, he'd be like, you're doing okay? I'm like, yeah, yeah. My parents were not the least bit involved. That's what I mean.

It's like, these parents, and you can't tell the parents who overparent to like back off. Like, it's just not in their nature. They're just gonna get in there Yeah When someone are they making a decision on this I'm not sure I think they heard the cases last week and

And yeah, I don't know I think maybe in the week or two Interesting And yeah, I don't know I think maybe in the week or two Interesting Do you also can we can we send a prayer out to all of our brothers in Spain in Portugal right now? We don't have power. They don't have power the dude. It's like Pretty big chunk of the nation is just running on Jenny's What happened they don't know. Really? Yeah.

Cyber attack? That's where I went, right? Whoa. Like they got crazy TikToks of trains just sitting there with the lights off. Wow. That's tough, dude. I mean, that's what they say, right?

Power grids go down, chaos ensues. It was a little bit like that bad movie. Chaos ensues? Oh yeah, the Obama one? Yeah. Oh yeah, I forgot he produced that. So, hey Obama, give the guy some notes. Bad job producing on that movie. Yeah. Have you watched any snippets of Michelle Obama's pod? Marshall Yeah, brutal.

Stan Why are people doing? Why are people podcasting? Like, Michelle Obama, why do you need to podcast? Marshall It's lame every time. And dude, Bruce Springsteen and Barack Obama's podcast was the worst one I've ever heard and I'm a fan of both. To like, my fiance sent me a video the other day of me watching an old Obama speech and I was just, I was stoned and crying watching it. Really? Yeah. I mean, he's so good.

She goes, why are you crying? I go, I'm not crying, I'm thinking. But dude, he's such a good, his rhetorical skills are, I don't even know, the more I learn about, I'm listening to a book right now, Choke Points, about economic warfare, and I'm like, I'm hearing how he bungled a bunch of stuff, but just on speak, and I'm like,

bro, that is what it's supposed to sound like. His charisma's on point. But even then, I don't like hearing him on podcasts, I don't like hearing Michelle on podcasts, especially when they're talking about relationship stuff, she's talking about like how she feels about I don't know being in love I'm like, what are you doing? She's ruining her reputation. She had a really good one. Yeah, and It's it's kind of like Morgan Wallen the more you say the more you lose Yeah, we need some we need some mystery

If she if I mean I don't know she should like what what could well she could she do? What would be a better use of her time? That's the thing is like I don't even know how to help or make stuff better. Like when I was at the zoo I heard some protesters yelling about how the elephants were like basically slaves. Yeah. And when I was at the zoo I heard some protesters yelling about how the elephants were like basically slaves. Yeah. And I was like why do they do that? I was like well there's only two ways to change things. You either annoy people so much that they change their behavior or you like kill everybody. Yeah. So maybe podcasting is annoying us. At least they're not killing us. But it's getting the message. Yeah but I'm grateful. I mean what do you think of Katy Perry?

Katy Perry's taking a huge hit right now. I'm huge on this, leave her alone. Enough is enough, stop beating up on the lady. It's not her fault people are poor. She didn't create the unfair system. And you gotta zoom out. The lady who wrote California Girls, Teenage Dream, last Friday night.

I kissed a girl. I kissed a girl, she went to space. That's an incredible life for anybody. Like we should be celebrating it. And then people are like, oh, when she was stupid when she came. Like they're mad that she's dumb. Like they're like, what did you feel when you were in space?

She's like, there were flowers and I love flowers. Yeah. Everyone's like, what an idiot. I'm like, I didn't expect her to be like Carl Sagan and like tell me about existence. Like she's Katy Perry. A hot pop star went to space. That is good.

And here's the thing too, if you got offered to go to space, would you turn it down? I would not. You would not for sure. I would definitely go to space. I might. I might big time. I don't want to brag, but I think think I would big-time Bezos. You'd big-time him? Yeah. Why? I don't know. I just would I just be like he'd be scared. That's why Maybe maybe that's probably why that is a good point. Yeah, I think

Harlan made a funny point on his podcast about Katy Perry I think Harlan made a funny point on his podcast about Katy Perry. He was saying that the only thing that was crazy to him was when she got up into the air and all the girls were looking out the windows, Katy Perry just starts singing. He was like, why? You go all the way up to space and you're still like,

I don't know. She sang? Yeah, she's singing and all these people are trying to enjoy the moment and she's just up there singing. Hilarious. Dude, if I were in space, the only person I'd let sing is Tupac.

That'd be sick. That was a good pick, dude. You go up to space and he's like, hey, old Mary, and you're like, this is sick. He has a lot of gravitas. Yeah, Katy Perry's boobies in space. Oh yeah, her boobies deserve to go to space. The moons would start rocking.

I was wondering about those things at zero gravity. Yeah, do you think they kind of cuz she's got big big who has she has really? nice cans Good for her and dude. She's been through a lot. She was married to that fucking animal Russell Brand I can't even imagine what a number that would do on my brain. Oh, yeah guys alone One other podcast I watched I want to bring up. Did you guys see accountant to you? No, but I want to so Ben Affleck was on the O's pod Yeah, it was actually really freaking good. Like I used to think Ben Affleck was kind of a renob and like just an asshole douche Yeah, you're way when he yeah when he explains like

Like all those paparazzi pictures where they make him look crazy Like when he explains that he's trying to beg these people for hours to leave, and then when they finally don't, and he yells at them, they get a picture. He just seemed like a really nice, normal guy and a great dad. He's awesome. And I think it was a great promo for the movie.

I'm excited to see it. I'm excited to see it. I also, I think he just seems so, he was really kind of gracious, and he was trying to be generous with his advice like because Theo was talking about his movie and he was really kind of like.. It's a great dude. Ben Affleck makes banger movies.

Yeah, he's giving advice on like the editing process and all this stuff and he's, he seems like a great dude. He's a man. Yeah. And even like he's got problems. He's like a hillbilly alcoholic madman. Can't we add, but like that's what makes him, he's got a big engine and it burns and eats and

I'm grateful that I get to see all the stuff he does. And dude, his Spanish is great. Just saw him talking Spanish. He's got a funny like Mexican accent. Yeah. It's the best. Everything about him is cool. And he, I like who his company is doing.

I think it's a smart artist equity. What are they doing? I think a big part of what they're doing is they're trying to put more power back into the kind of artist hands in terms of like when you make a movie, you have equity in the movie and so kind of, I forget exactly what they're doing but it's kind of making it a more artist forward way of making movies so it's not so studio focused and I think it's kind of a an effort to get back into more of

those you know 10 to 20 million dollar budget movies where it's people were taking risks and and it's not so you know when it's so studio focused they're kind of like oh I need any popular IP or I need to do Marvel or something just to guarantee yeah a big box office but a big return, but I think that he and Matt Damon are Yeah, I think they're good job. I for sure. They love movies. Dude, speaking of good movies. Sinners.

I need to see it. You got to see it. Yeah, I've seen some clips. It's sick, dude. You told me you love you. You told me you love me. But then you put and then you put your tongue in my coos and you fucked me so good. She's great. The dialogue is great. Dude, it has everything. It's got the sexy sex stuff like that.

It's got the vibes. And bro, the thing about Coogler is, I love listening to Coogler because he talks down like Richmond, just Richmond. But he says the smartest shit. Everything he says is brilliant. Be like, yeah, that's why we wanted to be grimy and greedy and just like beating down. That's why we shot 35 millimeter because we wanted to have that wide vista, panoramic visual that just kind of represented

that Delta blue. I'm like, dude, you're the man. The movie, he makes these big spectacle movies, like Creed and Black Panther, and this one is about vampires. It's kind of dumb. And then there's always a moment, two thirds of the way through the movie,

where he'll land a point about some of the deepest shit ever, and I'm just bawling. And I'm prone to crying, but I'm bawling, and I'm like, dude, how the fuck do you do this? He's so crazy? Wired into his art that he just will he can do multiple things at the same time. It's it's it's a It fires me up so much. It was such a fun like me and my me and my fiance We didn't talk during the movie. We had the babysitter watching the kids were psyched to go see a movie

We didn't talk at all didn't move then we walked down. We're like, that's the sickest shit We've ever we both were just like that was so sick. Really? Yeah It's not that scary. This guy's wife hates scary moves. It's not that scary. It's it's it's like the perfect level of scary Where it will work with everybody Good for them do good for Michael B. Jordan. What do you think? He's sick in it. Do you think? Are you suspicious of him and Haley potentially boning after- You know me, dude, I love looking into this stuff.

Also, I want to, bro, I'm not suspicious. No? I don't think they're boning at all. I think they're two actors who have good chemistry and who are boosting the project. I don't think Josh Allen is scared of Michael B. Jordan. Good. I'm sure it's a little awkward for him to see her

being super sexual on camera, but I think he can handle it. And I think he'll make a joke about it on a podcast in like five months. I think they all rip. I think it's all good. And you can trust me that I know they're not boning. You can trust me. That's good.

Because also, I saw another couple, I saw another actor and actress that were in a movie together that were with other people, and I was like, I think they're boning. And then I asked one of our buddies who knows, and he goes, yeah, they're boning. So I got a good radar for a-

You know who's boning, who's not. I know who's boning and who's not. I can feel that shit from a mile away. Well, now that you say that, here's the thing. They wouldn't be so obvious about it if they were boning. There'd be a little more of like, we gotta keep this under wraps. Yeah.

I think it's just part of selling a movie, you gotta like really be smiling. And that's actors, they're always like making everybody feel good. Yeah. But no, I don't think they're boning. She's very good in the movie. But I mean like, dude, some of the other performances too,

like Delroy Lindo. I've heard it, he's awesome. He's fucking ripping it, dude. I mean mean dude that guy in Gone 60 Seconds. He's awesome. Brothers Love is Brothers Love. He should be in every movie What a name Delroy Lindo. He's an he's like a actor-actor I remember when I watched Gone 60 Seconds as soon as the credits rolled, I called my mom, because I was still a 10-year-old, and she had just made me PB and Fluff, and I was like, mom, why don't you name me Delroy?

I was so pissed. That's really funny. You should do a bit about that. That's really funny. Why did we name Delroy? It is true, dude. When you're growing up and you hear a cool black name, and you're like, damn, and then you're like, damn

And they like just wouldn't work for me, huh? I know I'd love to be able to rock that Yeah, I wonder if they feel that way about like some super white names. Oh, I'm sure Dude, what's the way that good will have to do you guys from where you guys from Boston makes sense? That was really funny You guys should good. Well, how do you guys from where you guys from Boston makes sense? That was really funny You guys should move to Chicago Before we do some calls dude, can we look up this thorium thing? I listen to this podcast the all-in podcast It's like the biggest podcast in the world. I'd only heard of it until a couple months ago This kind of

We yeah good news look at this shit had me freaked out bro in a competitive way yeah yeah click that one thorium stay stay on the top Jake Look at that quote rabbits sometimes make mistakes or grow lazy. That's when the tortoise seizes its chance. That's them talking about us They say they say USA thinks in decades China thinks in centuries Yeah, we don't got patience here. They made this discovery, this thorium-powered nuclear reactor. They were putting out big claims saying they found enough thorium in Mongolia to power China for 60,000 years. Whoa.

And so this material is easier to find than uranium, and it doesn't take an enrichment process, which I guess is super labor intensive and expensive. So they found this quicker, faster, and easier way way I'm not that they're all the way there yet but they're getting there to build new nuclear reactors that'll power their country make them more energy independent and and put them you know production-wise ahead of us and guess where they got the technology from where we came up with it really the? The Americans. Why are we doing it? We let it go. If you listen to like more like pro-business kind of libertarian types of like it got lost in regulation

I don't know what happened. That's just the one thing I heard on it in terms of why we're not doing it But it's just it's cooking with gas over there or without gas. Well, here's the thing. I mean, I've heard that like nuclear power plants nowadays much safer than they were. And we have like the technology to become energy independent and to do stuff that's way, it's clean energy. It's nuclear. I mean, and we're just not doing it we had a couple bad episodes and we look at Germany after like Fukushima They they shut down all their nuke plants. Yeah, and then now they're in an energy crisis That's why the last president over there got the boot was because they were paying like quadruple what they normally pay a month for Yeah for energy and so like you gotta do something

We just need a fat nuclear power plant and then people I think so we need something and then people will be like but bad things can happen with this It's like bad things can happen with everything. Yeah, we got to do something She can't have fat nuclear power plant. Let me say but here's the thing The big I don't think big oils go let that happen maybe not But is big oil gonna stop this in China or is big oil a thing? I think no I think oil is a thing. I don't know how it all connects here but I'm interested. If someone knows send it to me. You have fat nuke plant in Nevada that'd be sick. Dude can you imagine that?

We're just all running on nuke. It sounds scary because I think it freaks people out because we know nukes are for The only experience we have with nukes really is when it goes bad Yeah, nukes are like offensive linemen You only hear about it when it's going bad And we know that it like could destroy the earth if it goes if it goes bad the stakes are high Yeah, I think we should do it Gotta do something. Fuck it.

Let's do it. I've been feeling very competitive with China lately. Always. I'm like, I think we're in a- it's full bone. It's on. And like, you know, respect. I got respect for some of what they accomplished. But I'm like, you know, respect. I got respect for some of what they accomplished, but I'm like, you know, we got to take it to them. Here's the thing. I always feel, but aren't they kind of in more of a

population crisis than we are? They're having problems. Their economy was really stagnant there for a while too. And they are having problem with making babies. They got their own issues. I don't think it's all like rosy over there by many stretches and by many ways of thinking about it. But, you know, we gotta, come on.

Come on, we America, we're not going down. I like when America's number one. Yeah. Oh yeah. I like it. 100%. And look, we got problems. We got a lot of problems. Yeah. And I am a liberal. I don't even know what words mean anymore but I think I'm liberal.

But like, but I saw the guy from All Gas No Breaks and he was like, he was saying the difference between like liberal and Democrat and I was like, is this some like new young shit? I was like way out of touch with it. Right. Interesting. I mean, I think like, I think, I was thinking about this though. I was like, yeah, it's nice being number one, but I was also like, what's it like being like, you know. Number nine. Number nine.

Whereas maybe it's like, cause you know, they always say when you're on the top, right, everyone's trying to take you down. But if you're just chilling at number nine, maybe you're just chilling But then are you getting boned? Is is china bullying you? I've always felt too like number nine This is me being like very ethnocentric or whatever. But like to me like number nine Can only hang at number nine because number one is like kind of lead blocking for him. Yeah, I Guess would it be I

Guess you think of like sorry, you know for us. Yeah, I guess something you like France People are like which shout to their cuisine. It's my favorite. Oh, it was wild And It's like it's my favorite. Yeah, that was wild. And it's like, what was I gonna say? I just got hung up. I was just thinking about my favorite food, escargot. But okay, so, oh, you know, okay, so the rest of the world's like, America sucks. You guys are the real terrorists.

You like, fuck you guys and stuff. But what if it kind of shifts and we're like, dude, screw fucking, let's not say it's China, let's like, dude, screw Australia. Like those guys are assholes. Then we kind of get to join in on that side. Well, I do think we've seen that a little bit too, where like everyone was always picking on the US, right?

Like US sucks, you guys guys stick your hands into everything, you guys have your big swingin' dick. And then Trump came in and was like, yo, hey, we're actually pulling out of Ukraine, we're pulling funding. Yeah. And then Europe was kind of like, hey, where the hell you going? Yeah.

And I was like, oh, so you kind of did like it when we were always. Yeah, you do like it. You do like when we're up in your shit and kind of helping out. It's kind of like oh, yeah I was gonna be very rude. I don't want to I don't want to piss anybody off, but I did think that was interesting Yeah, I Mean, we'll see I mean we will see I think we'll stay number one At least in our lifetime and by what measure like people like you guys are like the worst health care the worst

Like your education is not very good. your quality of life's not the best. That's all fair. I'm saying we're the best at influence, and that's it. We're the best at influence. Influence, right? Military influence, entertainment influence. We got the best butts.

We got the best butts. Brazil has good butts too, but we got the best. Well, we got Brazilians here. We import a lot of the best butts. That's awesome. No one talks about that import-export discrepancy. Is the US importing more butts or exporting more butts? Importing.

Importing more butts. I don't mind that. Don't put a tariff on that. Yeah, we're just taking in all the nice mind that don't put a tariff on that Yeah, we're just taking it all the nice. Don't put a tariff on those coolos All right, should we have in a call? I'm not even horny anymore. I was saying you guys aren't horny I'm not I did watch porn again for a while. Yeah, let's do some calls. I'm off of it now though I had nine months no porn Were you able to get off it easy? I'm in some we'll see but yeah, I'm like like two days off of it. I think I'll be alright.

It was fun going back to it. I missed it. And I was feeling boring, honestly, as a person. I wasn't doing anything. I was like, I need to do something. So I just went ham on myself for like a week and a half. Told my lady. Nice. Ham and I should be my lady nice. Hey, I'm gonna be holed up Guys I'm interrupting this podcast once again to let you know that we were brought to you by home chef the best meal kit Biz in the game. I love home chef. I love to make their meals whether it's a spaghetti bolognese it's a prime rib with or a steak with mashed potatoes or Chicken and broccoli you guys know I love. With some freaking Parmesan cheese on top.

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Um, maybe it's relatable, maybe it's not, but so I go in the mornings and there's tons of people getting ready for work after their workouts. And so naturally they're bringing their change of clothes, right? Well, the issue is it feels like these dudes are bringing clothes for the next five business days. They spread it out throughout the entire locker room. It's lined up all across the benches. And like I'm coming in trying to get to my locker, trying to get the rest of my day going. And I'm sitting there having to like squeeze between them.

And then there's like little to no effort to just like consolidate their space a little bit. And so I'm just like, is everyone just that oblivious? Or maybe it's a deeper problem rooted in our society today with a lack of awareness for other people. But I know the simple answer is just to say, you mind moving over? But that's, high road's not always the fun way. No, and I think you should take the low road here.

I think you should spread all your shit on the bench as soon as you arrive, leave it there. And then, you know, let them see how they feel about it. So you're saying pre-workout, come in, like leave it all out, go do my thing? Yeah, bring like your post-workout meal, bring your protein shake with the blender. All your business clothes, put them all on the bench,

stick it to them, show these dudes what they're doing. And then afterwards you can be like, now that was just to show you guys how you made me feel and then you could go back to uh you know just be like hey can you actually give me some room i don't know you guys want to hang out after this okay it's kind of like when beaver showed the uh poV video of the paparazzi photographing him. We're like, wow, that's how it feels. Okay, I like that. The old reverse uno.

Yeah. I do like that. I like showing someone what they're doing to you. You're also in an interesting situation here where they're doing something that's clearly wrong. They're obviously in the wrong and they're just waiting to see if anyone is gonna push back on them and then you're in the tough position that people like that put people in where you have to say okay do I want to create a problem by confronting this person?

That's bad but I think the alternative is actually, which is like you don't say anything and then you have to go throughout your days knowing you didn't speak up for yourself. And so I think in situations like this, it doesn't even matter if they end up listening to you. I think the important thing is for you to know that you listen to you and that you're willing to say something when you feel compelled to. So I would find the the guy that you think will be most agreeable out of the bunch and say, Hey man, you're just taking up way too much space and just see how that goes. And look, if it gets serious, you always have the abort button. You go, Hey man, you know what? I shouldn't have said

anything. That's my bad. Take up as much space as you want. But I think with these situations, they're it's scary in our heads and it oftentimes is in real life. And I think it's so good for you to to to go into it and to and to confront it. Because otherwise, then you rationalize

your own fear of the situation. Like, no, it's not worth it, blah, blah, blah. And then it eats at you a little bit. And that's worse. That makes you sit small at the dinner table when you're with your family 20 years from now. Wow. Wow. Now I feel like crying. I was deep. You're in my head, JT. Okay. Yeah, that's I like that approach Let us know how it goes yeah, if you end up getting the shit kicked out of you

I'm sorry, man, but I really don't think it's gonna go that way. I really don't No, I don't either and I like my odds against the folks that are in there anyway So if it does go that route, this could be this could be Exciting. Hey good. And you know what's good about this to do is I deputize you sometimes It's hard to stick up for yourself when it's all on your own Like yeah making but sometimes when someone else says hey, man I need you to do this for me then we feel extra strong because we're doing it for everybody So I'm doing you're doing this for me. I

You know what? Damn, right, and I'm probably doing it for a couple other people in that gym. Amen brother. Yeah, amen. I'm inspired. Tomorrow's gonna be a big day. Please call back afterwards. I got you guys. I appreciate that advice. Enjoy that hot dog. Thanks fellas, take care. Night. Good stuff. He's a good guy. I mean, I think you were spot on with getting the dog though.

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and important safety information. What's going on? How you living? Good, how are you? Good, dude. What A-O-Z, brother? So, pretty big, lifestep here.

Not even lifestep, that's not the right way to say it. Wait, dude, are you a- I was hanging out with my brother. I was hanging out with my brother, and he came out of the closet and told me he's gay. Honestly, not like the biggest surprise, but was still pretty intense to hear. So I'm wondering like, how do I make him feel more comfortable

to do that to like the masses? And then the second part of this question, which I understand is selfish. Now I have this extra pressure on me to have kids. So my parents can be grandparents. I know that's selfish. So I don't know how to deal with that either. No, you're just future tripping a little bit.

Like it's a big moment and I think you're, it's creating new realities for you. But I would slow down. Like, you know, you're getting your brother to the masses and worrying about you having kids. That's those are things that matter. But those are down the road things. I'm more curious.

What did you say to your brother after he came out? Honestly, I didn't say that much. I just kind of stood there I was like oh I'm like I got it like but I mean I took it pretty well like he I could tell it was like a big weight off his shoulders and I felt kind of happy that he had like the uh he was comfortable enough to say that to me I know it was probably way harder for him than it was for me. Did you give him a hug? Um, no I did not give him a hug. Some families don't hug. How old is your brother?

My brother is... 24. How old are you? I'm almost 28. Is 24 late or young to come out? Feels a little on the late side, right? Late side, yeah. I feel like the later side, yeah.

So is your brother kind of shy? Super shy. Super shy. Oh, so this was a big deal for him. That's really lovely that he was able to do that and feel safe with you. Right. I mean, definitely took him a while. And like I said, not really a surprise. He used to, like, play with dolls and shit

when we were younger And he got a lot of flack for that a lot of that kind of like coming from me So I understand why he'd tell me for a while It's some of that we pick on our siblings for a multitude of reasons Yeah, but um is he is he is he seeing anybody? No, I don't believe so at least I would I would wingman him dude Okay, so actually we did we went to Italy together with my family and we were right by a gay bar and

I was trying to get him to go there and like let me try to wingman him But um he just told me it was like a sex dungeon play bar not really uh Not really like a bar that I'm thinking of sure we ended up not going Like that You think I'm future-tripping Yeah, your brother can adopt kids, too. I understand, like, if you want to protect the bloodline, but I don't think it's... Yeah, I think sometimes when we...

When something big happens, our brain, like, doesn't know how to take it head on, so it creates, like, new bigness to kind of stress about. But the important thing is just being supportive to your brother. You'll be all right on the other stuff. Did your parents say anything about you having kids? About me having kids? No, no, this is like totally just me internalizing that. But I know that they want to be grandparents.

Yeah. Do you want to have kids? Yes. I do. I do. But not right now. Not right now. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, I think you can let that go that time will come and you're still young and If your parents aren't saying anything, you know, then it's a lot of it. It's probably just in your head. So Yeah, I think that's something that you can just You can just let that go brother

Yeah, you don't want to like You didn't say anything like that to your brother. Did you? No Yeah, you don't want to like you didn't say anything like that to your brother did you? No, no Way to go man now I got to do everything Are you and your brother close Um, not really to be honest. I mean yes and no like we do a lot of shit together but um, I mean I always grew up like playing sports and like hanging out with a ton of friends and everything and then he kind of grew up, you know playing with dolls and Just like we're pretty opposite. We're pretty opposite. Did you guys grow up in a conservative place?

Like was it pretty friendly to gay folk or was it a little tough? It was a little more like conservative, but it wasn't like, you know, anti-gay. Sure. Yes. But it wasn't like there was like a, it wasn't like he had like a ton of outlets to be himself. Yeah, definitely not. Definitely not. Yeah.

I mean, I, and your, his other question was like, how do you, how, how do you encourage him to get this out to the masses more? Yeah, and like mean I haven't really told anybody either like I told my best friend but that's like the only person I've told. I mean and that I think with that I think you should just be stoked on him and I don't think you know it's I think he'll the more he feels comfortable and accepted and loved by his family for who he is, the more he'll feel comfortable

coming out to the general public. I don't think. That's a really good point. Yeah, I don't think, be like, hey, you should put up this post and like, or something like that. He's gonna do that on his own time and I think it's a massive decision for him.

So I think the more he feels loved and supported by you, the more he's gonna be, the more comfortable he's gonna feel divulging that information. Yeah, you're having a very like big brother response to it. Where he's like, how do I kind of coach him in this? And then also like, what do I do about all my responsibilities? Which I think is natural.

But yeah, I think the more secure, like when people feel feel loved I think they feel more confident Yeah, and so in whatever small and whatever your guys's languages with one another just you don't have to You know, you don't want to make him feel uncomfortable by going outside of it. But just like within that Kind of way that you guys show love, just make sure you're doing that. Do you have a way that, is there something you guys like really connect on, talk on, do together? Yeah, I mean, we both like food a lot. Like we cook, we cook together and stuff.

The hell? I don't know if that's enough. No, that's awesome. What do you guys cook? We're Italian so we cook like a lot of homemade pasta, make our sausage. Oh nice. Just make limoncello, pizza, everything. This is like the bear. Yeah keep cooking with him. Yeah cook with him. Dude you guys should guys should cook some French food. That's my favorite cuisine

What is a typical French dish? Oh, what's not a French dish? I mean duck confit Don't even know what I saw that. Now that I do I. Do you have a girlfriend? Don't even know how to spell that. Now they do why. Do you have a girlfriend? No, I mean that's not even told yes for too long. That's like a whole other can of worms. Just kind of like a five year relationship too.

Yeah, that's like a whole another wrench but we don't get into that. You know what's funny? I would be selfish. I think this will be a good way to connect. And classic Big Brother shit is like dude having a gay wingman is huge I would I would like it's actually I would take it the other way if your brother's shy I'd be like dude. I don't need to be your wingman. I need you to be my wingman

Yeah, and I'm sure that would make him feel like a good bro would be helping you connect with potentially your next partner. So Maybe be like hey, let's go do one of these like cooking classes. I'm sure there's some babes in there, we'll go in together. And then I'll get some points for being such a fucking accepting and loving brother. And that'll get me a good girl who likes those kinds of values.

That's purpose too. That's good. I appreciate it guys Yeah, congrats to your brother Tell him uh, tell him Chad and JT got his back too Got you, I'll pass it on Thanks dude

Hope you plug in chicks soon brother Me too bro Appreciate it Dude he hated his brother's dolls. He played with dolls and shit. I play with dolls. Yeah, I recently had a friend come out too, like a couple months ago. Oh, nice.

Actually, I lived with the kid for like two years and he has a twin brother who's like my best friend. So, I was wondering like this kind of made me think about it while he was talking is there like a like I've always kind of joked with him and like made jokes even like gay jokes potentially just kind of like banter right between good bros because we've been friends for like 18 years you think like I'm probably not crossing the line if I still continue those jokes, right? Would it be weird if I quit?

I thought you'd so funny when he first brought it up I thought you were gonna say should I apologize to him for is that what you thought he was saying? I think the chat says you got to keep him coming. Yeah, I think I think the the When you start to treat someone differently You know, let's say you like you start to train differently because he's gay, then that I think that's the issue. When you when you just when it I feel to me, it feels like if you're just treating them like it, like it's There's no big difference. Like it's just your buddy. Then I think that that's the best thing you can do. Right? I think so. then I think that that's the best thing you can do, right? I think so.

Yeah, I think you gotta keep them coming. Yeah, cool, yeah, I'll probably still cut all that anyways. No, leave it, leave it, man, come on, it's good stuff. You're being open, it's brave of you. You little bitch, you little gay bitch, Jake. Yeah, you know, stuff like that. Jake, you can cut it, dude. That makes you my little gay bitch, dude.

Yeah, Jake, do we have to stop our gay jokes with you? Yeah, dude, now you have a gay friend. I mean, they're super offensive. Yeah, we say them all the time, dude. They text you out of the blue. Oh, that's crazy. I don't know how you do. Yeah, good thing we don't have HR.

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We're just rocking and rolling dude. Yeah dude. What about you? You got your shoes on today right? I think, yeah. I got no shoes on. My toes all fucked up from running. Let me see.

Oh it's a marathon, congrats bro. That's thing's still a little banged up huh? Yeah. That's some Harry Potter looking shit. Yeah, dude. Why do people want to see feet so bad? Are you one of those guys? Are you asking me or are you asking Chad there? No, I'm asking you.

Because I think it's the answer is yes, either way. Nice, dude. Why do you like seeing feet so much? I like to imagine the smells. No, I'm not a foot guy. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, I think my partner, if my partner wants, I feel like I'm a pretty like, I'm a pretty malleable partner. My partner wants me to be a foot person,

you know, I'll be does does your partner want you to be a foot person? No, I don't think so. She hasn't requested it yet. Has she would you say she makes too many sexual requests or too few? I think we're on the same exact page with each other. I think, you know, if anything, I think I could be a little more I think I could be a little more sexually driven. This isn't even what I'm calling about. This isn't even what I'm calling about one bit, but I'm liking the conversation.

What are you calling about? Well, I guess there it goes I'm calling so I have Ailed He's a months ago probably about six months ago got injured at my my work I was like we're doing like landscaping and I was carrying a big bucket of rocks, fell down some stairs, hurt myself, I'm out for two weeks.

The day I come back after my two weeks, they fire me. Bummed, they were good guys, it was a good job. They were very like sweet about it. Pretty like, it was like a amicable breakup. But the more I thought about it, the more I was like, I looked into it and you can't fire somebody right after injury. And like it ended up fucking me up pretty bad, if I'm being honest. Like I've been unemployed this whole time.

Like I'm in a real slump now because of it. Like before this, I was a real real go getter. And now I'm just like I'm stuck in a rut. I'm not blaming them for it but now I'm like in the process of suing them kind of. I haven't like really pulled the trigger yet but I'm like I'm not I'm not a guy that sues people. It feels weird. I just want to get your guys advice. And you're in a rut because of the injury as well or just because it's been tough to land a new gig?

Yeah, so no, yeah, the injury, the injury healed up. It's like right after getting fired, I'm in a rut like mentally more than anything. Okay. But right after the gig, I was like hunting for jobs, hardcore, kind of excited to get like starting new So a new path all that and then I live in San Francisco. I met you guys in San Francisco sick Well, so do you yeah, yeah, do you want to get like

Compensated by them because you feel unfairly aggrieved and like taking advantage of or are you just like doing it because you feel like you don't have other options at this point so that is I feel like that's where I'm mentally torn because I do well legally what they did is not I talked to the lawyer guy I just I got an ad on Instagram I followed through it yeah I think it is it is against the law right and I think you have every right to get that money from them and to And to look out for yourself, and I think part of the reason they were being so nice is because they're probably worried You would do this so it feels a little manipulative on their end too, but I know they were they're legitimately good, dude

I they I I feel like they were actually good people I do I do believe that. But why did they fire you? Just because you were injured? So they had fired a few people before and then I got injured for two weeks. And then the day I come back that morning, they tell me, you know, head home. And I've been working there about a year You know here in SF we're doing like backyards for rich ass motherfuckers and With the economy. I think they got a lot less business. They had to start cutting people. I do believe

them, but I also Believe that doing it like right after my injury like I don't know. It's just not right. You're conflicted. I'm conflicted. I think that they wrong me. I don't want to go after them for like emotional distress or some shit. I don't want to go after them for that stuff. That's on me.

That's me in my own head to deal with But like the fact that you know they let me go with you know zero notice after getting no pay for two weeks Dude, you're not you're not a bitch for wanting to get Some money from these people on this that's what I want You're not a bitch man, and like I can even tell like when you say like the emotional distress thing, it's like you don't want to put down in writing to the world that like you're blaming other people for how you feel. And I think that's very honorable of you. But you do you have to look out for your well-being.

I think these people did something that's against the law. None of us want to be the kind of person to sue. Hopefully you get a lawyer. You put it in front of them and it doesn't get to that point and they just settle with you. But I think you owe it to yourself to look out for yourself. It does not make you a bitch. It makes you a strong person who's willing to do what's

uncomfortable to do what's right. So there's some people in here who want to talk to you in the chat. I would I would pursue this thing. I agree. All right. Right on. Danny, I'm looking at the chat at all. I'll I got it up on my laptop. I'll go back to Chad and take a peek. But yeah, yeah, like I think I'm just going to go after them for

like, you know, the time that I've been unemployed and like what it's done to me. I don't think I'm going to go after them for the emotional stuff and that's because I truly believe that's not on them It's a negotiation too. I don't know anything about this But sometimes you start the line from marriage story if they start with crazy and we start with normal We'll end up in the middle closer to crazy. So Let your lawyer lawyer brother and you'll probably end up getting about what you're doing right now Right now and and you're good man There's so many people in the chat who have your back and want to see you pursue this thing

And I think they make a good point the company's not looking out for you. Don't look out for them You know, you're a good guy, but you gotta, the world is tough, so You're not a bitch, you're a good guy, and you deserve to have good things happen to you Dude, you know, you're not a bitch and you're a good guy too, JT, alright? Thanks dude Hey, right on guys, alright, alright, I don't think I'm taking up too much time here, I appreciate y'all Are you in the chat? Are you in the chat? There's this- Hey, I'm Beef Nips, I'm taking up too much time. Are you in the chat? Are you in the chat? There's this?

One of the best guys ever dude sister beef hilariously sister Sister B. I know it is a HR director and says they can help you out. So Courtney, you know The weird thing to is my Instagram handle is pat the dingus. I'm seeing all these correlations in the chat right now We got dingus. We got beef It's all over. All right. I'll start talking to these people what you got. I love the I love the chat I love you, too Love you, dude. All right, just a couple of sweethearts and a little little basket of love over there. Thanks. Love you beef nips

All right, guys. Have a good one. Appreciate the invite later, man What a good guy. Yeah great guy He's all that's good with the people that feels like a good place. Yeah Well, is it was a good classic ep. Good callers, good guys. Yeah, maybe this will shut the complainers up a little bit. Yeah, I'm talking to Gary the Kneeboarder dude, he's pissed. Yeah, Gary the Kneeboarder, I'm talking to you right now. He's pissed. We love you guys But I'll put you in a headlock and kiss your forehead. Yeah, it sounds like the they want the beef spades and legends But they don't want that

They just want what they can't have it's whatever was yesterday is better than what's today it's like come on brother I'm telling you you don't want the base be you hear two weeks of bad beef spades and legends you're gonna be calling for something new I'm telling you just for old times can I be BL can I give my beef of the week yeah my beef of the week is Dodger Stadium all right oh so I know this is kind of like a 21st century problem, but they are completely cashless. Like if someone wants to pay for something with cash, let them pay for it with cash. Like I was talking to the bartender,

I'm like, why can you not just, you know, take a 20 for these drinks? He was like, You'll get in there, I love that about you. He was like, they don't want to get robbed. I'm like, no one's robbing Dodger Stadium. Like what? What are we in the town?

Yeah, what the fuck are you talking about? Like here's $20 plus you're like a major organization Like you have cash to give change to people like yeah and it's a baseball game where it's like supposed to be like blue collar shit, you know what I mean and like You got to still take cash at baseball games. This is America's pastime like it's not supposed to be like the the tip of the spear of modernity. Like, come on. Dude, this goes into a large beef in general. Companies, they're just not looking out for the customers anymore.

The customer service is probably at an all time low. The prices are so high. I mean, I just keep seeing stuff online about Vegas. Prices are just out of control. They're firing, Vegas is firing a lot of people. MGM just fired all their concierge folk. Really? Yeah. And all the comments have been completely priced out.

They're like, why would I spend nine grand going to Vegas? I'll go to Europe for that amount of money. It's insane. It's insane. I mean, prices are way too high. Things are just unlivable. Yeah, now the cost of living problem in America is insane. Some of these to happen, you know, we need to get nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants, and I have a radical idea to fix the housing situation in California. Yeah. These are a lot of this stuff

I'm talking about are bits on them, but I got a plan. Talking about going vertical in Yosemite and Big Sur. Yeah. Apartment buildings, mixed use commercial. Yeah. I like that. Right? Who wouldn't want to move there? Dude, you think like a fat apartment building on Half Dome? Yeah.

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