Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 413 - HUGE BEEF IN THE BAND with Amir Kabiri

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Today with are joined by our good friend Amir. He is the other half of the "Gentle Ch*des" with Kevin. He starts the pod of with maybe the best DONG song we've EVER heard. JT brings up the beef in the band and tensions rise quickly. We also watch the Dodgers World Series parade go by the studio and talk a little baseball. This is a chiller of an ep with a great friend and some dank riffs. DROP A COMMENT FOR THE ALGO LOL  More about Amir Here: https://www.instagram.com/amirkabiri/ We are live streaming a Fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://appreeshapparel.com/ Come see us on Tour! Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Thanks to our Sponsors:HIGHLAND STYLE CO: The Best Hair products for healthy hair   Go to https://www.highland.style/deep or use code godeep at checkout and get 20% off today!   PRODUCTION & EDITS BY: Jake Rohret

Have you seen Joe's dong 16 inches long carries all that weight His genes suffocate Things ain't all that easy when you got a massive slum that doesn't fit nowhere And I mean anywhere His cocks a third leg And the ladies beg

Makes the greatest sacrifice It's thick as a thigh It's like a rock hard third eye That's a dong I know And that's a dong I know Wow That might be the best dong song I've ever heard That was phenomenal.

That was unreal. So listeners, you're probably, your ears just got tickled and you're thinking it must be our old friend Kevin the Schmole playing another Dong song, but no, this is the other half of the gentle chodes. Some would say the better half, and he's here with us today, Amir Kabiri. Thank you. Thank you for having me. You know, I think Kevin gets a lot of attention because he's, because he plays the front man

but you know I believe that there's a heart and soul or I guess you could say cock and testicles to the band that I bring and without me we don't have the same vibe you know because every great group

has the wing man so but you're not the I wouldn't call yourself the wing do you think you're the wing man I mean listen I'll play that role but deep down we all know who's bringing

you know what because you know like without Stephen Van Zant there's no Bruce Springsteen without no Gallagher there's no oasis and without me there's no gentle chode

and he was talking shit like at the we had a show together on Friday and he was like oh Amir's going to do a song but Amir he doesn't he's like he was basically saying he's responsible

for the great work you guys I know he likes to take credit I mean I would go so far as to say your captain Dong thank you and not only

that. Kevin may be the shaft. First thing you see, you're the balls. You're the cream. Thank you. You're, I mean, you provide the substance. Yeah, the cock. The cock can be a cock, but the cock doesn't do its cock things. It's mostly ceremonial. Yeah. I mean, I'm the full testosterone, I would say, you know, and I'm not going to be shy here. I would say that I bring something to the table here, and it's a lot, a lot more than I maybe I get credit for. And listen, I, I respect Kevin. I like what he's doing. And, you know, we've been a group for over a year now. And, but we do have some fundamental differences. And who writes the hooks? You know who. Do you write the hooks? I mean, listen. You guys have great hooks. I think, I think Kevin,

what, okay, so I'm actually going to give him some props here because Kevin, I've never seen anyone as passionate about as anything, like anything, as Kevin is about the male genitalia. Penis. Yeah, the penis for layman's terms. And he brings a lot of heart and soul to the group. But when we're writing, he'll get stuck and he needs me. He needs me. Because he's so like just, his brain is just a factory line of just like nuts and cock and pubs. And then you come in with the view from the top floor and you're like, hey, maybe sprinkle in other words.

not even that i'd say i'd come in with some general artistry i like to to bring a cohesive song structure to the table i think kevin comes in with passion but he needs to be he needs he needs someone to come in and um you make it music yeah make it music because he's just he just could basically i picture this he comes over to your house bangs on the door loud like you knew he was coming over he could just you know be gentle about it comes in with a hard on yeah he comes And he said, I got a song, I got a song. All right. And then you're like, all right, play it for me.

He's like, well, I don't want. No, hold on. And he just goes, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, call. And I'm like, all right, let's break it down. Let's start with the verse. Right. And I think you, too, you, I've seen some writing sessions. Yeah.

I've actually, I've been present for them. And like what you were saying, Kevin will come in and he'll say, cock, cock, cock, bellin, bellin, bellin, bellin, you know, balls, balls, balls, balls, and for skin, you know. And he's just so obsessed. so obsessed with the penis he loves penis and you're like but what is this song really about yeah but and i'll give him credit you know because to be honest with you like not many people like see it for what it like Kevin comes in with some some real energy some like pure energy something that you don't really see in you know day-to-day life exactly he does bring a nice he does bring a good

rock star like Liam energy he's Liam yeah he's Liam um I You know, he wears, you know, Liam wears a parka. Kevin actually wears, you know, a giant condom. Exactly. Yeah, I would say he's Liam, but I write the chorus. Wow. Choruses are big. Courses are huge. Huge. In fact, the other night, he wrote this song. It was like, it was great. It was a great vibe. And I had to stop him right in the middle. I go, Kevin, where's the chorus? Wow. and so we had to introduce some new harmonies and things like that

yeah and then you guys were beefing at the show he was saying like I'm Lennon I'm McCartney yeah he did say that huh yeah he said you were Ringo he called me Ringo mm-hmm that motherfucker I think you're I think you're probably Paul but I think in the dynamic like in the way he's treating you it resembles George where Paul and John kind of George out of the songwriting. Right. And then when they all went solo,

George had the best records. Yeah. What was his best song? What was it? It was, uh, My Sweet Lord. I was thinking of something else. My sweet dong.

Who did the guitar? Wow, my guitar gently weeps. I mean, what a classic. Mm-hmm. I think, um, you know, if you were a pop punk band,

your name would be Tom to Dong. Tom the Dong. And Kevin would be Mark, Mark Hoppus. Just Mark Hoppus. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. What I'm trying to say is, Kevin, I hope you're watching. Amir is the top dong.

Wow. Wow. It's a dong off. We're starting a dong off on this episode. I mean, look, we can let them behind the curtain a little bit. This is a real thing. There's real friction there. there's real competition but we're putting it on display yeah we're going to go dong for dong

and you the listener is going to tell us who's the top dong listen if it's going to be like that Kevin I'm sorry but at the end of the day you know I'm the full cock and balls you're just a pub wow dude now is there any other kind of spiritual differences yeah care to illuminate yeah I would say this and again I'm not knocking Kevin Kevin he's the front man I give him credit. I give him props. He comes in with a lot of passion. But Kevin's a purist, you know, and that's a good thing.

You know, we need purists. He's a traditionalist. But me, I look forward. I'm a forward looker, you know? I'm technology forward, and I know this is going to cause some controversy. But, you know, AI is here. AI is here to stay. It's not going anywhere.

And a lot of artists don't want to introduce AI into the process. But when it's here and when you can't, deny its presence. I think that you need to embrace it. I think that you need to look forward and I think the highest and best use of AI is to honor the dong. That's well said, man. And you know, it's a tough spot to be fighting from. Because people, the moment you say I use AI, people think you're full of it. They think you don't have the goods without it. But I like where you're coming from because if it makes the song better that's what matters and you know we talk about john henry versus the machine you know they got their axe and he's or his uh his pick and he's

going through the rock and everyone hates the machine but what did the machine give us abundance i was going to say dong but yeah and dong well in this case dong yeah but you know it's not all all the stuff we like came from our ability to get more. Listen. Yeah. And I'm not saying it's awesome to get replaced by AI. I don't even think that's happening. I just think it's here and we cannot live in this bubble of denial, right? Yes.

I think, you know, let's look at it. I have two analogies here. Go. One pertains to the dong itself. Yeah. You know, dongs everywhere, when the dildo came around, they were like, this is. a travesty, I'm never going to enter a vagina again. I'm going to be replaced by the dildo. But what did it do? It enhanced female orgasms. It went in, it helped to DEP

when there was only one true dong present. It's only, the dildo has only made our lives better. You're the dildo. You are a you are a living breathing dildo yes and you know scrylix scrylicks came along and everyone was you know saying DJs are the worst they just you know they're not even making me it's it's robot farts but scrylix came along and he made a whole new genre of music oh yeah with the computer you're creating a whole new genre of dong song it's called innovation I think I think it's a tool I think it's a tool, you know, and we look back and we can respect traditionalists and

purists for what they were and what they bring. And it's true, earthy, you know, a soul that we have to embrace. But of course, the world isn't stagnant. I mean, we move forward. We evolve. I mean, when Dylan went electric, what did we do? We all got upset. But then looking back now, I mean, what?

You know, that was obviously the next step in his journey. And then we got the Dillon Electric era. So I just think we can't push this out of our world. I mean, it's here. So what are we going to do? Just deny it? Nah, I think we got to take it. We got to embrace it.

And we got to use it for what it's good for, which is embracing the dong. Making good dong. You know, Johnny Cash said, track some mud on the carpet. And I think what you're saying is track some cum on the carpet. Totally. totally crunchy it's you know I know it's controversial yeah let's just sit with it for a sec because because it is tough yeah but it what it behooves us is to have honest conversation on yeah yeah and I loved what you were saying I agree I mean because

you know where would we be if we didn't have vibrators I don't know women didn't start having orgasms till like 1996 yeah Before that. Is that the year? Yeah. Wow. So what about 95? What were they doing?

Faking or just, you know, saying, no, nothing happened. And do we know the first person who? How to know? Yeah. Yeah. Madonna. Madonna did? Wow.

She had one of her handsome backup dancers strap up a vibrator. Is that the, wow. Is that the song she wrote Living on a Prayer? It's about that? Nope. Oh, okay. Bon Jovi song. Bon Jovi song is about that, though, about getting pegged. She had a song about a prayer too, though.

Like a prayer. Like a prayer. Yeah, that chorus when it hits, that's swell. Is that inspired by you? That's her first orgasm, yeah. Wow. When you call my name, I'm coming oh so hard. Unreal.

I said to take you there when you call my name. Well, this is, you know, we're just honored to have. you know such a promising young donger on the podcast and you know and thank you for speaking so honestly about you and kevin and the gentle chodes i think you're i think you're the top i and i truly believe this my fiancee was at the show she was like that was phenomenal really the songs are phenomenal guys check out the gentle chodes you guys and i really mean this you You guys need to put out a record, and you need to start playing full live shows. You need to put on some concerts.

No, we're planning to do the troubadour this next year. I think we got the troubadour. We haven't made any steps towards playing there yet, but we want to. Yeah. And then we also want to do some other big spots. The will turn? Yeah, we want to do the will turn next year. Again, we have no...

The Pantages? The Pantages, yeah. Yeah, we could do the Pantages. If you do it as more of like a musical? Yeah, I mean... You thought about that? I haven't thought about that, actually. That's a good idea.

A bunch of Wieners running around on stage. I like that. Like the Lion King kind of stuff. Yeah. I saw the Lion King. It was pretty lame and I think we could do a way better job. Whoa, you thought the Lion King was lame? I thought I didn't like the themes it brought up and I felt weird and stressed in the back in the

Pentages. What themes? I don't know. It made me feel guilty. For what? I can't remember why. This was over 10 years ago, but I was watching it, and I felt kind of stressed and guilty. And I was like, that's not what I want to feel at a show like this, at the Pantages, such a legendary show.

Because you, because you, why? Circle of Life, Akuna Matata? I like Akuna Matata. I like that because it's very, you know, it's positive. It's positive. But there was a heavy scene in there. And, you know, I just walked away feeling like, I don't know, I didn't like what that brought up inside of me. Wow.

Yeah. So very much hit something. but we don't want to go there again. No, I'll do respect. We'll stay away. Sorry to wrap, guys, but we are on tour. First, well, first, this show, my birthday. I'm doing a one-man show at Jamming the Van in Los Angeles, November 7th.

Get your tickets. Come celebrate my birthday with me by doing a one-man show. And then we're going to be in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Potstown, PA, Philadelphia, Santa Cruz. Come see us, guys. We are coming in hot. Tickets at Chanjjat.com. Well, let's bring up some good news. I mean, guys, you might be hearing it right now

as you're listening to the pod. It's going on as we speak. The Dodgers World Series celebration is happening outside our wonderful producer Jake's window. We might pop out just to get a look at some of the legends. Mookie Betts. Freddie Freeman. Shohei Otani.

Yamamoto. Kike. Kike. What a performance by those guys. Pa-Haz, you said already? Pa-Haz came in. What a catch. That ninth inning was phenomenal, dude. He just fucking rolled right over Kike. And two huge plays, like the Rojas wanted to play with the foot coming up and coming back down.

The drama was phenomenal. And all these people saying the Dodgers pay to win, they don't even have the number one payroll in baseball. The Mets do, and where were they? And the Blue Jays are fifth. It's not like they're like broke. It's not rigged. You guys say, I'm responding to the chat, people listening at home. I'm sorry, I'm getting so mad.

Look, this is my point. The Dodgers are a great team. They're a likable bunch. They're a great guys. They deserve the title. It was a honor to watch them do it. It was so cool to see a team embody both the contending, like the, the, they're the current champions and the underdog simultaneously. Like I felt like they're the, they're the, the system, but I also felt like they're

about to break the system in the same game. That's cool. They're the paradigm and they're the paradigm shift. I mean, and they got just phenomenal guys, like iconic, legendary players. Great personalities. Awesome. Dude, the Japanese guys are incredible. So great. Dude, how about Robleski too? Who was the guy who he got in a fight with? That was, uh, Jimenez. So Jimenez. You could see clearly on the TV, you know, Jimenez came after him and he's like, fuck you, motherfucker. That was Rublesky. Roblesky.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude. Phenomenal. So cool. Did you guys see Yamamoto cleaning up the dugout, cleaning out the dugout after game two? I heard about that. Was he? Yeah.

The guy's just got manners for days. Him and Otani. The greatest. Otani's like pushing his kid into the park before the game. His wife's asking him for stuff. Yeah. He's totally present. Still being a dad and a husband.

right before he goes out there and just goes four for four with five walks. I mean, or that might have been on his way to the six. Oh, no, that was on his way to the NLCS when he six shutout innings and three bombs. Whoa. Did you see the end when Yamamoto was honored with the MVP of the World Series? And he was just standing there. And Mookie goes, you got to hold the trophy. And so he goes, oh, okay, he held it up.

And Mookie, dude, he had a tough offensive series, but. Parade is coming? Close it out with a double play. He's not a shortstop. He played it in high school, a little second base in the minors. But unbelievable to go full-time shortstop at 33. What a stud. Should I move the camera or no?

I'm not even a big Dodgers fan. I just love great teams. I kind of want to see. You can't see the team? Go check it out. We'll hold this down. Tell us what it looks like. All right.

Amir, now I wanted to throw this at you. Oh, okay. And I'm going to talk a little bit like Patrick Beck David for like 10, is I wanted to throw this at you. That's a good impression. Because I'm a numbers guy. And a lot of people are saying Yamamoto, maybe to some people, the best pitching performance in baseball history.

I'm not talking about international play. You know, that's very important, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about Major League Baseball. Okay. Best World Series performance. Now, I don't know Yamamoto, but what I hear about him, very studious guy. Okay. who do you pick for your best pitching performance of of the last let's let's say modern era

let's cut it off at 2000 do you go randy johnson 2001 game two complete game shut out three hits four base runners game six seven innings two runs game seven no days rest one inning and a third wins three games no rest between six and seven we got yamamoto complete game one run in game two game six six innings pitch one run game seven relief two innings two third innings pitched zero and runs 10 hits over the entire series not as good as randy johnson on that front we're not talking about bob gibson then you have madison bum garner 2014 game one seven innings pitch three hits one run game five complete game shut out game seven five innings pitch zero runs came in the fifth inning pitch five innings finished the game out 21 in eight

pitched over the series wow but a couple days rest in between five and seven what do you pick as a baseball you're an enthusiast you're a huge baseball fan we we can go with that yeah as a huge baseball fan who do you do you find yourself leaning towards a guy like bumgarner who pitched more innings but got more rest or do you find yourself Chad baseball guy do you find yourself more pressed by bum garner going more innings but more rest, or a guy like Yamamoto, who's

going back, who's doing it in consecutive days, as a numbers guy. As a numbers guy? As a numbers guy. I mean, I got to go Yamamoto. I think I go Yamamoto too. Gutsi. And it was gutsy. Yeah, I got to go Yamamoto right here.

Yeah, I got to go Yamamoto. It was so gutsy. It was gutsy. And guts means a lot. In America, guts means a lot. And for a Japanese got to have those kind of guts, that means a lot. Bro. Yamamoto,

Yamato. Let's go. There we go. Let's go so. I was stuck there and you land at the plane. I mean, it's a mutual thing. We're a partnership.

We work with each other. We jump on each other. That's part of how we build. Um, quit. I think, so just saw a parade go by to saw some of the Dodgers. I was sick. Did you actually? Yeah.

Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. I was like, go look at Mirster. They're already. You missed it, bro. Oh, bro, that sucks, dude.

So, uh, Walt Klein, was he, is he a Dodgers pitcher? Yeah, yeah, he pitched great. I just, I saw him. Oh, that's awesome. I saw that beard. I was like, dude, I think that's him. He came up huge. Did you see?

I think it was game six where he came up huge, right? Or was a game seven. That was the 18 innings one, I thought. Right. Oh, that was 18. Yeah. Um, he, uh, dude, yeah. You know, I felt so bad for him to, uh, just with the, I always feel bad for athletes with

the commentary. They're like, no one expected this. guy to even play in any games I mean this guy's last he's last in the bullpen everyone thinks he sucks he's a ginger and I'm like guys

relax you know what I mean he's a ginger he just throw ginger out I was like Ken Rosenthal he's like he's a ginger I'm like dude shut up geek would you go out with that Whispers in the locker room

not very impressive while naked no one's expecting much room in this spot yeah you know I just love Yamamoto He doesn't even, he's still, I mean, he comes out with this translator. I mean, he's new to America. He's new to the country. Those other guys, they were around. They speak English.

But what a badass, too, that he's new to the country. He's new to the Dodgers, but he still inherits their conflict, the honor of that when he beamed Springer, who was part of the, uh, the Stroes play, play stealing, pitch count stealing. Oh, no, I don't know what you're talking about. So the Astro's cheated in 2017. They were, like, spying on the catcher so they could know what pitch was coming. Yeah. And they had like a light system and, like, buzzers and all this crazy crap.

And Springer was all. on that team and they stole a world series from the Dodgers. Yamamoto comes in team two years ago. He's like, oh, you guys all hate this guy? Bang! Plunks him with more. Really? Yeah, he put it on and just like, he came in.

Yeah. That's awesome. He knocked him in the wrist. He goes, let me help you out with his conflict. Yeah, and then Yamamoto just stared at him. I was like, what's up, bitch? Really? So cool.

Dude, that's awesome. I didn't, I, I, I didn't know, Otani's like 31. I didn't know he's been playing for like nine years. Or he was with the Angels for nine years. I know. The Angels wasted him. Yeah, he was kind of quiet,

during those years. Because no one pays attention to the Angels because, well, he had, I think he won an MVP, one or two MVPs with the Angels, but they had him and Mike Trout and they still sucked. It was unbelievable. Yeah.

And they just, I couldn't believe that. I thought he, like, I thought he was brand new to. Yeah, it sounds like he is, because everyone's just talking about him now. Yeah. That's why the league wanted them, I think everybody wanted him to go to a big market team that was in the

in the zeitgeist a little bit more because he was just squandering. Did you see that guy? That's got to be so frustrating. You know, sorry, I didn't rip. I just got Otani The thing I love about Otani

is when he's up to bat You can see how sweet he is With the way he's like He's got the puffy eyes He's got yeah he's just like He's gentle He's gentle. He's like a very like sweet demeanor But he's so respectful

Did you see the clip where he gets hit? Like Freeman and Betts They're all just great guys Where he got the greatest He got hit and then the bench clears And then he waves them off He goes it's all good guys Yeah he goes

Don't come out don't come out and fight and then he walked up to the opposing team with his hands behind his back and was I don't know what he said to him I picture he said something like fellas you came after me and that is okay for we are in competition yeah but if you come after me again remember I also pitch and I'll be forced to come after you so let us proceed in peace wow and then the other team was like yeah that's right he's right yeah he's right and then he walked away dude what a hero dude the announcers when he did that were bugging out they're like we have never seen leadership Because like in America, if you bean us, we're supposed to run out there.

I'm like, oh, so, bitch, let's go. He was, like, measured and calm. We were like, everybody's like, I've been showing it to my fiance all the time. I'm like, look at him. Yeah. Look at him. Yeah. He reacted with, like, poise and honor.

I'm like, it's super inspiring. But that's what gives the Dodgers so much color is you have these characters. You have this very nice, respectful guy. And then you have Robleski, the fuck you motherfucker. And then you got Pahez and Rojas. It's awesome. Awesome, dude. It's an international team. Hell yeah.

We got every kind of sensibility, every kind of dude, and they come together to form a unit. Because I believe in that. It takes all kinds to make something perfect. It reminds me of the Lakers back in like 2009 and 10 when they had all these characters on the team. Like Sasha and Powell and Meta World Peace. Yeah. That was a fun bunch. You got this group of people who don't look like they belong together, but they're forced to.

And then you get to watch not only them. sell at the sport but also become this group of just friends and you're like they're so different but you like them i like this dodgers team more than i like that lakers team i rude for them hard but um Kobe was such a jerk um rest in peace my take he was he's just a jerk and i i maybe we'll find out more about this dodgers team but right now i'm i'm um i'm rose-colored glasses i'm like they seem devoid of that kind of uh like mookie is dude mooky after game like six he had he hit the single that got them the game winning run but he batted like 220 in the world his average was bad um and he was talking to jeter and poppy afterwards and he was like he's like

i haven't been playing that good i was like oh my god and then jeter's like but you've been playing great defense and tried to like gas him up yeah yeah like he was just so real it was cool did you see the interview where otani at the end of the interview erud snuck in a autograph request he goes he goes can you just sign right here for me yeah he goes thanks brother that's cool you're a great guy I love him I uh the I don't know if you guys have seen the Kike Hernandez clips circulating of him in the locker have you seen these no no no oh do we got to watch him

where he's um can I be honest about Kike yeah he might have been my least favorite player on the team why I don't know I don't know enough about him what I don't know I think I just something about him in the last game trying too hard with the glasses or something You know, when Pahez made that catch and trucked him over, I was kind of happy. I was like, that's a great play for two reasons. One, Pahas made a miracle play. Two, he knocked over Kike.

Well, yeah, and I don't think Kike was going to catch that. He looked like he was in bad position. I mean, do great, and do Dave Roberts, what a manager puts Rojas in there that game, hits the game winning Homer, and then he puts Pahas in center. I heard Rojas's wife was like, you're going to win the game tonight. Oh, my God. Really? Yeah, I heard that.

Really? Yeah, she said, you're going to hit a home run tonight before the game. Get out of here. Yeah, here I'll blow it. That's cool. Hey, and a lot of respect to the Blue Jays, too. They got a very likable team. Vlad Guerrero Jr.

What a stud. I watched and rooted for his old man. Yeah, I was rooting for that guy. He was an impossible out. Just like, always, you couldn't jam him. You couldn't do nothing to him. If they would have won, I would have been happy, to be honest. Yeah, it would have been fun to watch them win.

I did feel bad for the Blue Jays. Yeah. Because they just they both fought so hard. It was a great series. It's like the feeling after not winning that is like, imagine that, yeah, I got to go through a whole other season, try to get there. You know, it's, it's tough. Yeah. I thought it was the best world series of my lifetime.

Really? I mean, the Cubby's one was great. I got to be there when they won too and see Joe just like, his mind just melt. Yeah. But I thought these games were more fun to watch. the uh cardinals rangers was a good one but no none of them were this one was the best um i i'm this is i'm really stoked on this conversation because i actually have an announcement i am now a dodgers fan oh yeah i know i'm actually going to fall asleep i'm a dodgers fan now

too yeah and it took everything in me to uh and i was going to buy a hat to prove it today but i didn't have time yeah i should warn my hat i love the dodgers go the Dodgers. Yeah, I mean, I'll third that. Yeah, I was a Dodgers fan. I'm a fan of winners. So, Dodgers are pretty solid winners. That's, oh, dude, looks good. Jake, are you a Dodgers fan? I grew up a Cardinals fan, but I haven't really been too into baseball the last couple years, but I do go to like three or four Dodgers games a year. So I think by that rule, I'm a fan. How great is going to a Dodgers game, too? Chavez Ravine, come on. Does it get any better? I know that's where Paul Walker

tested out his Mitsubishi eclipse Really? He's at my car topped out 140 miles per hour this morning Because he did in the Dodgers parking lot No way Yeah Hey can I do a babe of the week real quick That's connected to sports but not about the Dodgers

Yeah 100% Guys I want to give a shout out in the spotlight To a football player who's long been forgotten But deserves to be remembered Because he was A unique specimen in a world of specimens he was he stood out and what i liked about him was even though he was good at football he cared more about being buff this is the story of david boston

david boston was a good wide receiver out of ohio state who went to arizona in 2001 he had a great season 1500 and 98 yards eight touchdowns ends up getting signed by the chargers to a big deal seven years 47 mine go to that go to the photo uh one row down second to the left that one he's the rock okay he goes to the chargers he goes from weighing about 220 to 250 unheard of for a wide receiver he's got a full-time trainer he's taking all sorts of pills no one knows what he's on he passed seven drug test they didn't test for hdh back then the whole team's like dude you got to stop being so buff you can't extend for catches Like you're not the same player

He goes, nah, I'm staying buff Ended up kind of flaming out of the league But I respect that so much He looks so good Look at him Put up the photos Pierce nipples He used to wear eye contacts of different colors

He's kind of like the Dennis Rodman of football He was He was the Dennis Rodman of football Wow And he had that kind of particular personality And it's interesting Like his dad was a lines judge in the NFL Like a ref

His mom was a teacher his sister became like an attorney and he was just a different cat and self-avowed that way he got suspended because he got in a fight with his lifting coach with the chargers because the coach wouldn't let him bring a girl into his room overnight

and yeah I just think I mean look at look at that he's got zero percent body fat and he got up to 260 him catching the ball there in the bucks uniform I feel bad for the ball you can't keep your eyes off

so you're just looking at his arms I bring him up too because me and my brother went to a Chargers game in like 03 and we brought binoculars and we just looked at David Boston's arms the entire time. Yeah, of course. I mean, he was 6-2-250 playing wide receiver. So I would recommend all the kids at home who want to just like be inspired by a buff dude, just go look at this guy's body all the time. But is he, he's not a household name though, is he? He could have been if he decided he was probably the top three receiver in the league for a year. But it didn't make him

happy being buffed what do you think uh was was preventing him from being like Randy Moss like level recognition because it sounds like he's guys celebrities got personality he's got the athletics consistency he just he only had one great year I think he could have done it if he if he was I mean he ran a four three two 40 he was a freak but he just wanted to be buff I can and he had you know you got a DUI for being on cocaine I don't think he drank but he did cocaine which is cool yeah that's actually cooler that he didn't drink but did It's a rare duly.

Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, more rare duly. And, uh, yeah, I think he just wanted to live his life quirky, quirky, quirky, quirk quirk. He's saying, he seems like the kind of guy who would leave sports for acting. But not a lot of parts for black men. So that's my next point. Wow.

That's why next week I'm doing Morris Chestnut as my babe of the week. Who's that? Underrated black actor who was tremendous in the brothers and two can play at that game. But, um, probably didn't have the career. he deserves. Wow. Do you guys think... But he was Chris Evans. Do you...

Do you think that when the gentle Chodes is playing Wembley, yeah, everyone's holding up their dildos during your, you know, during your emotional ballad about Joe's load? Which we will be doing well

Wembley eventually. Mm-hmm. Do you think one or both of you, will leave to go do acting? You know, I think I could see that. I could see both of us going, although I'm not sure what kind of roles are available for Kevin,

but I could definitely see both of us going and having a successful career in conjunction with the musical career. So adult. Multimedia force. Yeah, I would say across the board. multi genre I could see it too

what do you guys think is worse for people gambling or porn are both bad that's a good question gambling I actually I installed a porn blocker on my computer hey good for you

really yeah actually you know because it's so it's so easy to just go bed and you feel like oh let's Let's see a cum fart before I go to sleep. I don't know. But I was like, enough. Enough. And I, I've been three nights now without watching.

Hey, good. I feel lighter. You got extra bandwidth. The shame, there's like a release of shame. And I'm like, it's pretty, it's actually, I legit feel better. Good. Wow. Is that interesting?

Interesting. Yeah. There are apps that can help you. like quitter have you heard of that yeah i did cold turkey oh wow i was a net nanny guy i remember net nanny yeah it's good so i like the name i don't know man i i have a very unpopular opinion i don't think porn's really bad that necessarily all that bad i think it depends on your relationship with it the way you grew up and the values you were still in and the level of shame that comes naturally to you and guilt, I think all that determines

what the effects of porn are on you. I think that if you don't necessarily have that, porn can actually be a great stress reliever. It can actually really regulate you and balance you in many ways. And I think stress can be way more harmful than any type of addiction in some circumstances. Yeah, no, I think it's more nuanced too. I wouldn't say it's like good but it is effective like I think people are like oh it's horrible and I'm like well it does take the edge off it does give people a moment for themselves it does overall help them relax maybe someone's going to cheat and they don't because they have like an outlet for an easy outlet for those kind of urges yeah but um that doesn't mean it's great for you but it's but it's effective and I think

that does get lost in the conversation I'm like maybe if there was no porn no jacking off we'd have fights in the streets it could be way worse I think porn are like lane gutters they kind of keep you in line you know what I mean they stop you from going way out of bounds some people would get crazy

I bet you if porn wasn't around I bet you the testosterone would just hit their brain and they would just get so horny and maybe be inappropriate in public but with porn you're able to sort of self-medicate kind of like come back to neutral just to play Dong advocate

it here. If they're a world without porn, do you think, because I see what you're saying as a stress reliever, but the fact that we're fed these images and this video and we kind of see the possibility of what we can do, do you think that angers young men because they're not getting that in real life? Some guys maybe. I would think it more often doesn't anger them. I think it pacifies them to the point where they don't pursue it in real life as much.

Right, right. Right. And yeah, maybe it does give guys like a kind of sadness where they're like, look at all these pretty girls on video and I don't get that and they're kind of bummed out. I think real life can do that to you too. Yeah. But yeah, no, I definitely think, I guess the reason I'm saying there's some positives to it too or just trying to like not make it as. like absolute is because like I listen to like Nick Fuentes on Tucker Carlson and he was saying they should arrest like the guy who started only fans and like all these things and Tucker was like yeah I agree they should arrest those guys and then I was like I mean if they're doing something illegal like if there's like young if there's underage people on there or if there's people who are forced into it then yeah but I was like just for doing something that you consider immoral but is consensual like then I was like I was like My brain started going like two extrapolations, and I was like, should we arrest all the dudes and women who cheat? Like, should we make adultery illegal? Right.

Because then pretty soon we're not going to have anybody left. It's a silly take. And I think that it, when you hear somebody take such an extreme angle like that, we should arrest the guy who founded Onlyfans. It's kind of like, to me, that more signals like, oh, you have an abusive relationship with this content, then. I do because I don't have those kinds of feelings. And at the end of the day, I would actually argue social media platforms might have a worse

effect on you than porn because porn is sort of a realm of fantasy. You're sort of playing this like, this like, you know, fantasy out in your mind and visually. And it's, it has a place. There's a space for that. But social media, the place is real life. It's, it's, that's the space we're all in. And I feel like people feel like, oh, I'm missing out on having a child or a relationship or the evolution of my career.

Right, we have a harder time distinguishing between what's real and fake in social media versus porn. Yeah, and porn is sort of this realm of like, oh, anything goes, but it's contained to this. You see that, the social media, the negative effects of social media, you see that in women a lot.

Oh, yeah. Like, the comparison. I think men do it too, but like with women, it's the, the, that compare, it's so easy to compare and with beauty standards with like um you know with a lifestyle yeah all that stuff especially with like yeah female like influencers they're like putting out like you know it's like here are the products i'm using here's what i'm wearing here's and it's like it's you know all that

consumerism and it's it's it drives i think it you know drives people to spend frivolous amounts of money that it makes them not like what they have like exactly leads to a lot of, like, people feeling bombed. I think that's the most dramatic consequences, like the effect of that on women. But now here's my question is, yeah, it creates a lot of insecurity in people and they're sort of becoming victim to this, like, general force of social media and the way people are portrayed on it. So they compare themselves and then they don't feel good.

But as an individual, you have agency. do you bear responsibility in your own feelings? Yeah, no, I think maybe we're seeing the limits of what we're capable of in terms of resisting. Like we're all like, hey, we have all the rights, we have autonomy, it's up to me to protect myself. Yeah. But then we're looking around and we're like, shit's gnarly. Maybe we can't handle it. Well, that's the thing.

I mean, these social media companies, they literally have, I think they hire neuroscience. scientists to they're literally creating uh they're they're they're you know with the algorithm and stuff the ticotification they're literally create it's it's they're curating it to be more and more addictive and and um because addictive means success it's yeah it's it's being more efficient successful it's working better yeah so a good algorithm means more viewership that's the measure of success for them yeah and so it's kind of they don't they don't seem to really care about the effects as long as they're you know driving up the um profit and too like um you know you're talking about gambling like with gambling you just and I've seen

like Jeff Perlman talk about this and like he does go so funny about like everyone like sports gambling is everywhere now and um everyone's talking about sports gambling and it kind of just burst onto the scene and you're like you kind of just think it's you don't realize how how how it's permeated the entire culture this is kind of a pivot but i got a beef of the week as well uh the cincinnati bangles uh they were winning with 45 seconds left and somehow the bears came back in one i could just see it in my face joe like throwing a fucking glass thing at the ground right like when they when they when they with 45 seconds left i thought they were losing and then his just some, his emotions going back to be like, oh my God, we won.

Yeah. So that is a pivot from gambling and porn. But yes, I agree. I was there, actually. I saw Joe's reaction to that game. Oh, how was it? I'm sorry. I was there right after the reaction.

He was relieved, you know, he was stressed all day. And then he, uh, he, he, he went victorious. I mean, he showed up to the pig after and felt like, uh, he had a heart attack. Pretty much every game, the Bears play is a heart attack. Yeah, he rides and dies with him. Wait, Jake, there's someone in the chat. Megatron who's saying that um from a woman's perspective porn is harmful because many guys have such unrealistic expectations of in real life women based on what they see in porn I hear that

I guess I just don't know what that looks like in actuality will you see if she wants to call in or if she'll say more in the chat because because I get that but as someone who is totally addicted to porn had huge issues with it um it did hurt my boner but But I, if I was connected to the person, I was fine. And I never really was like, I don't have crazy sex. I never really did. I like to have a lot of sex, but it was never like, you know, I got to be like jamming your mouth with the dildo and like saying the craziest things.

Maybe I had one relationship where we kind of were testing our boundaries, but I think we were also like 25 and that was just like us figuring stuff out. Yeah. It didn't feel like it felt like I would have got there without porn. You know what I mean? but most I don't know I haven't felt that effect as much in myself I've had other problems but not that one so I'd be curious what that looks like yeah I mean that that style of sex is kind of where I naturally land jam of the throat yeah I don't know on her mouth and you're like

there's going to be five guys coming through the door pretty soon yeah yeah I mean you see me here I'm you know pretty chill and you know low key but you know when I get in the bedroom I am just the gag and yeah expect a fist handcuffs and wow okay so this is what she said she's like I can't call right now but what I'm talking is mostly just dudes online

seeing a perfectly average woman and dragging her in the comment shit like that okay I totally agree with that but I don't think that's necessarily because of porn I think a lot of guys are just dicks you know what I mean like in social media yeah these comments aren't reflective of like

the general male population these are first of all a lot of bots a lot of incels on porn sites you can't read comments and think oh that's what guys think but dude it's female I just posted a clip with the female comic the other day and like bro the dudes who were coming at her and the rude shit they were saying was insane but have you seen these guys like you click on the profile and you see the photo you're like that's what that guy looks like I'm not taking this seriously but but it's those

words still hurt it's crazy I think my thing is those guys should have to pay to say that to the woman like if you're gonna insults a woman you have to pay her on online you got to pay her five bucks first and then we'll see how bad you really want it. I'm sure they could come up with something. I agree. It's like slow burn, slow cuts. Over time, it takes a toll on you. I could see how that'd be horrible. Guys, we are brought to you by my favorite hair care company in the world. Highland style. I love Highland style. Look, I was talking about products I used last year on the pod and a lot of people DM me. They're like, dude, there's gnarly products in those honestly it could be it could contribute to hair loss it's making your

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And then the next message he's like, I hate you, you're stuck up bitch, you're ugly. how dare you think you're special. That's not cool. And then the girl I posted with, we were just talking about like relationship dynamics and someone's like, just insulting her in the most base like ways.

It's tough. You know when people say female comics a lot of times, you know, they're brave? I 100% think they're the bravest human beings. But in different ways. They're brave because on any given night, they post the address they're going to be at

and perform at in public. And anyone can show up to that. I mean, they literally are so public. Like, I'm scared to tell people where I'm going to be at, and I'm a guy. If I was a girl saying, I'm performing at this venue, it's just some bar. Well, anyone can show up. And you do get a lot of girls do show up looking for the dong. Oh, for me?

Yeah. For me, yeah. But for then. Yeah. Dude, we've booked some female comics. They're like, you can't put my name on the poster. I have a stalker. Like, yeah, they have to be a.

anonymous on every show. I mean, that affects your career, your health, your well-being. I mean, you're, it's insane. It's like a, yeah, it's criminal. On a positive note, though, for the gentle chodes, your stalkers, they just want to suck your dicks. Yeah, you guys just get hot chicks, every show, five of them. Yeah.

Big old juggies just wanted to rub. They want to suck Joe's dick mainly. And then we'll, well, he's the king. Yeah, but Joe will never allow it. Like, he's the most deferring person. You won't, he's never taken advantage of our services. Yeah. And it's crazy because I'll go to you guys as show.

Joe's and I see like female fans bringing like a paint bucket and they're like fill this with your load. Yeah, yeah. Like they literally are just begging for Joe's load and he just stands there stoic as as all hell. Yeah, you'll say, I'm not doing that. Yeah, not giving you my load. Yeah, are you still trading crypto? Uh, yeah, yeah, I'll trade crypto. I'll move it away from alts, but I'll do the main, uh, you know, Bitcoin, Ethereum. I heard a phrase that. day, that it's leverage to the NASDAQ. To the NASDAQ? I said it wrong.

What is NASDAQ? The NASDAQ. Oh, leverage the NASDAQ? It's leveraged to the NASDAQ. What does it mean to the NASDAQ? That like, as the NASDAQ goes, so goes crypto. But with more volatility. Oh, okay.

Yeah, that makes sense. What about it? Well, I guess where I was going, is that when you're investing in something that's so... The NASDAQ. Okay. Wait, how do you say it? The NASDAQ?

It's with the biggest index in technology. Of course. No, I know what it is. I'm just saying it with my own... Tech. NASDAQ. I like that. I like that.

There's the NASDAQ deposit. Yeah, yeah. All right. When you're investing in something that's so dream, driven by like sentiment rather than like earnings or other more like quantifiable like metrics how do you feel good how do you know when to go like what what what are you using to tell you what's smart yeah I mean I think it's you're playing with fire you know when you're in a bubble like we are now in some ways you know we're in a an extremely high

valuations across the board I just heard this morning Palantier before earnings they're at what 85 PE that's like the highest you can be it's insane um it's a game of hot potato it's you know it's fun to play and you're going to win as long as you don't end up with the potato right you know what I mean so um if at any point things come back to earth then whoever's left holding the bag is going to get hurt and I've been burned many times so you're talking about the stock market in general is is inflated right now know oh it's it's the most highly evaluated like yeah companies and assets right now i think of like any ever well yeah like maybe we're doing the tech bubble sequel it's possible but i mean

at the same time it's not for nothing i mean ai is truly like has substance to it and it's not going anywhere and it's going to um change the landscape of you know the labor market um everything. I mean, it has an effect on everything. I mean, everyone I see now at coffee shops, I poke over, I look at their screen, they're on chat GPT. But so we've kind of transit. So you're more off crypto and you're more in just the traditional stocks. I would say I flipped it, where I used to treat traditional stocks as like my safety investments. And now that's become Bitcoin. I use that as my gold standard. And I'll go around and place trades in the stock market on companies that I sort of, you know, I'm prospecting or.

And so the way you're thinking about it's like, okay, we're like in 97 right now. Tech stocks are just booming. There's money to be made. I don't want to get out too quick where I lose out on money to be made, but I don't want to stay in too long where I lose all of it. So it's just like what is that perfect intersecting point to get out? Yeah, I would say we're beyond 97. We're like 2001.

I would say we're beyond like the buildup. We're at the cusp of it. I think the crash is imminent. See, this is the weirdest thing is this is different. I feel like we're in a different time where as in 2002, 2001, we could have had a major crash. We did have a major crash. Same thing in 2008. But this time, it feels different.

And the reason is because it's not, the people that are profiting are these companies. And I think we're in a major crash for the general population. I think the, the- Oh, so you think the stocks will continue to soar. Yes. but but the the broader economy will continue to suffer we're going to we're suffering right now I think beyond anything that people report report on I mean look how people are out there in the parade right now it's like no one's doing anything right now in L.A. Everyone's got and this is a big

thing that you've been on you hate Jerome Powell the head of the Fed I don't think he should have been cutting bips way before and you think I'm I'll let you take it from there but talk about where you think unemployment is going. By the way, this is Amiri's our buddies and the gentle chodes. Yes, yes. I, uh, Captain Dom. Yeah, I can't even hear myself, but I'm just going to go here. I just take him off. So I, I personally think we're in a dangerous spot. And it's not that I hate Jerome Powell. I think he's a likable guy. He kind of reminds me a Stuart Little, you know? The mouse? Yeah, the mouse. He's got the ears and the nose and everything. And he's even the voice. Anyways, I like the guy. But I don't like what he's doing. And I don't think he's,

being honest with himself or with us you know i think the fed's the reason we're in this position to begin with can you elaborate what exactly do you mean so we've had high interest rates for a few years and i think that's in response to high inflation which is partly the way the fed and the government responded to covid so i think that is the reason why we've been in a highly inflated period but the fed should be a little bit more ear to the ground, right? They're clueless. They got their head in the sand. They're like a fucking ostrich. You know what I mean? Like, hey, wake up, look around you. They play this game like, yeah, we go off data, we read the data, and then we make policy decisions based

off data. But the data is always behind, and I think you need to infer from that. You have to realize, listen, this is going to be delayed data. So they're too reactive, not proactive enough. Well, they're only reactive, but they should be a little bit more common sense. You know what I mean? Like right now, they recently reported the labor market is softening. Softening? Are you crazy? I don't know anyone who has a job in my field. We're all getting replaced. AIs coming in. So tell them what your other job is. Oh, so I'm a designer. I do motion graphics. So if you're hiring and you're listening to the pod, yeah, let me know. I got a resume. And so there's less and less work as we move forward, partly because of AI, multi-variables, partly because an economic constraint, high interest rates. And so I feel like the Fed has a very important responsibility to be setting rates at a place where companies feel comfortable hiring employees. But right now, we're dealing with soft labor market, which is insane.

so many people are unemployed the government shut down so they even know how bad it is it's way worse than they're saying right they don't even have new data right now yeah there's no data and they're always wrong with the data and on top of that like people are just getting squeezed out yeah my friends who work in finances they use more private data than any of the government data for when they're making decisions on their own oh yeah yeah yeah it's it's just bad data and they always go back and revise it they're like we yeah we thought it was you know 400,000 jobs less actually. It's actually way worse than we thought it was. But it's too late by the time they've done that. It's like they've already made their decisions. So I think that, look, somebody even wrote, I'm leaving the graphic design field because of future of creative fields. It's just, it's really, really bad. But what makes you think if interest rates were lower that these companies would then reinvest in the workforce? I think that, well, first of all, historically, that's always been the case. So you lower rates, companies have more money and they're able to hire more. But that's also shifting now, that's always been the thing. People hoard talent. People pay you just to be working there

so that you're not with the competition. Right. Like, they still do that. But, but right now, companies are hiring less because of the promise of AI. So potentially, you know, you could, you could just hold off hiring and just wait eight months. And maybe by that point, chat GPT is so good, you don't need to even hire to begin with. So we're dealing with a lot. of problems. But by keeping rates high, we're just shooting ourselves in the foot. There's just no chance. We need a chance. Do you know what I mean? What do you see? What's the future? What do you see? Where do you see this all going? I think in one year from now, and I've told you this before, that unemployment is going to be the biggest, biggest and only thing people talk about.

It's already getting there, but we need to wake up because it's getting worse and it's way worse than people even give it credit for but in a year from now do you know the society like we're going to be in if people are just out there running around no jobs you can't feed anything there's no uh trump got rid of uh food stamps it's it's inside how do people live they're going to be crimes like never before people are going to be robbing trader joes and i love trader joes we're going to be fighting you know it's funny though powell in his recent statement he did a little speech they had no stuff to announce because there's no new data but he did say i can't care more about jobs than I do

about inflation looking forward that's a new thing he's shifting that way you think he heard you grumbling I think he's late that's your big issue with him you think he's always late he's always late just fucking wake up man you know what I mean but then if he does cut yeah and everything

and inflation keeps going or the bubble burst then he's got nowhere to cut too doesn't he kind of kind of keep his gunpowder dry a little bit I think you have to do that and I'll like Congress take care of the rest, you know, when it comes to, you know, creating policies around AI. But there's high inflation and job loss is growing. We could actually be entering a period of stagflation, which is really bad. But, you know, that's the,

there's just so much going on. And let me say this. The one new thing that recently I heard, about that kind of did challenge my views on this was this theory on ZERP. Have you heard of this? No. Okay. So zero interest rate policies for the last 15 years since 08. We've been living in a bubble. It's kind of like maybe we've been living in this like simulated reality with low rates and companies have been, you know, able to spend a lot and hire a lot and we're just so used to it that for the first time we're entering a sober period where it's like, no, rates should be higher and companies should be more efficient.

Whoa, so we've been at Abiza for like the last 10 years, just doing Molly every night and dancing. And then all of a sudden, we're back at home and we're like, wait, this is what life is like? And your body feels like shit, yeah. And you came out of college and you were in a visa. Wow. So we're getting a lot of people bum.

They're saying this is doom and gloom, doom and glooming and glooming. I already hear this conversation everywhere. talk about getting tan and crushing beers. Okay, I hear you. Let me go, Patrick, Pat, David. Okay, I hear you. That's valuable.

No problem. That's good. You want to hear reality? That's fine. But here's the thing. If we're part of the distraction and we're pulling you away from reality, then is that a problem? Do we owe it to ourselves to occasionally touch what's real so that you can believe us as real guys? Because I'm a real guy.

And it's important to me to be a real guy. But at the same time, I'm trying to help people too. And, you know, maybe, maybe, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, he, he says, dad, I want to have a party. I say, okay, but what goes into a party. And what, uh, you need to have a party? Rob, what's going on with the mic? Are we losing the video? Rob, come on. Rob, you got one job to do. Rob, come on. You, you're losing the mic again. You know, okay, we're back with us. you know what I would say to people and this might be bad this might be bad but let me say okay if you check into a podcast for a distraction right and you say because you know my groceries

are high my gases high I don't want to hear about this the the bummer stuff right okay maybe you shouldn't be listening to a podcast yeah maybe you should be watching porn oh you're saying okay okay no problem Okay. People want to know, what should I do? What should I do? Oh, sorry, go ahead. You go ahead, you go.

Okay, we got Tom here. Tom's our economic expert. Tom, you say that the Fed is not raising interest rates or they're not lowering interest rates. Okay, no problem. Now, how does that relate to 9-11 being an inside job? Is that a good impression? That's good, yeah, that's good. Yeah, I mean, we saw it then.

Yeah. Markets unstable? Okay. Great. That's a very, that's very interesting, very interesting. Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Vince Foster.

What happened there? Okay. Me? Hold on. Before we get to, before we break away from this, Hillary Clinton has a penis. No problem. Sorry.

No, you got to go there. They do say it. I tried. I tried. Hey, it's risky. I tried. I tried. I liked it.

We're live. We're doing it. I felt like nervous, but I liked it. I like this guy. I like how I go, this is, you know, sounding the alarm. You go, hey, look, Clint has got a penis. Look, Katie's made a hell of a career off stuff like that. Race to rates.

Yeah. I guess when people say, what should I do, you're doing something. So you just bought a house in Arkansas and you're renting it out? Yeah, a couple. And you don't go and look at them. No. No. But you're doing well on those.

They're working for you. Yeah, they're fine. Yeah, I mean, I've always been a little bit risky and, you know, I do things that maybe aren't well thought through, but I'm doing something. But you would kind of gamble. When I knew you, you've gotten much better about it, but like pre-COVID COVID days, you were Oh, irresponsible. You were riding the lightning.

Oh, I was just a learned. And you had a nice nut and you'd be throwing it down on, on like penny stocks, like high volatility stuff. Natural gas and crude oil. And you were just riding the lightning. I used to wake up in the morning, talk about jerking. You rub one out and just start buying crude oil. That's cool.

It was awesome. I love the way you live your life. He was being risky, bro. It was risky. It was risky. You know how good that feels? And 630 is when the market opens on the West Coast. Yeah.

I'm talking 6.45. I'm in the bathroom. I'll come out and buy more oil. You know what I mean? But then you got your head on straight and now you're your own and property in multiple states. Well, you know, yeah, I took some hits along the way. You took some big hits.

Big hits. Big hits. But you live for the hit. I live for the hit. You know what's crazy is when you lose a lot of money, it almost feels like you made a lot of money. Nora McDonald talked about that. Did he? Yeah, he's like, you know, after I lost all my money gambling, I remember, I felt kind of good.

I went and got a cup of coffee and I just kind of sat there and I was like, okay. There's something purifying about it. If there's a really insane quick shift, it feels super exciting, a lot of adrenaline. Right. In fact, back in my early days, when I started, I was losing money. I took my first big hit. It was $30,000 in a trade. Or I'm sorry, before that, I was learning.

I was like losing a little bit of money here and there. I think I lost like $200 one day. I told Joe. Joe was like, you're a dumbass. And then later I lost the $30,000. And I told Joe, and Joe said, all right, well, be careful. Yeah, because at that point, You already lost.

There's no point in hammering you. You probably need someone to lift you up. That's good situational awareness. Those were the early days. And then later it became like, you know, way worse than that. But, okay. So, right. You wake up in the morning 6.30.

So, you know, a guy's watching this. And he goes, okay, Amir wakes up 6.30 morning, jacks off, buy some crude oil. No problem. No problem. That's all I got. You wanted to do the voice. You like doing the problem. I love doing BPD.

No, do go, baby. I run value entertainment, all right. I own a company. I own a company. We moved to Florida. We moved to Florida because I grew up in Los Angeles, but then I saw what it became. And I thought, okay, if I'm going to jack off and buy crude oil here, I might as well be doing it with lower tax rates. Hell yeah.

That's right. You wake up in the morning, you buy some crude oil. There's guys you're in the ground. There's guys in your pants. No problem. But I guess to the overall things. And then, so I think we never settled it. Gambling probably worse because you can lose more.

But is it bad, though? Maybe if you lost it? I'm saying it can be worse. The potential for danger and both are there. But I feel like you're going to lose your family, your home, your life more with gambling. I think that when you lose money gambling, you deserved to lose it. You have to take responsibility. Last year, I lost 100.

100K? Yeah. Mama me. And one bet? Yeah. Wow. Not gambling. Gambling or?

It was options. Right. Your stock market stuff. Yeah. Which is kind of, they feel the same to me sometimes. Yeah, it is the same. They, uh, you know, Ed Thorpe, great, uh, Algo trader. He said, people feel like, I'm going to ruin this, but it's a great quote.

Um, people don't realize how much investing. is actually like betting and people don't realize how much gambling is actually like investing. There's a lot of similarities there. But at the end of the day, I used to think it's different.

I thought you just do your research, you learn the stock, you find trends, and then you're investing and you know what you're doing. I realized nobody knows what the fuck they're doing. Sure, you can find your edge and maybe you'll do good for a while,

but it never lasts forever. I agree. that if you're losing money gambling, you got to take responsibility for that. The thing I have a problem with now, and this is because I've been listening to Jeff Pearlman talk about mostly and some other people, some coffeezilla videos, marketing to kids, marketing it to young adults, to teens. If I were in college and they were like, you know, every influencer was, you know, talking about sports gambling and and you'd see like you go on you see on like bar stools like Instagram it's like Jersey Jerry won 100k on this bet it's like yeah they're kind of

marketing as a way to like get rich quick I think you're nailing it yeah yeah it shouldn't none of these things I'm not saying get rid of anything I don't think full prohibition works anyways you know what I mean so it's better to have it regulated so you can track what's going on yeah but it's how ubiquitous all this stuff is yeah it should be hard to get some porn it should be hard to place a bet when I was growing up not to be Not that I'm nostalgic. There's a lot of things better now. But I'm just saying in terms of being able to indulge these very powerful vices,

it took a little sweat, you know? You had to go to the store, convince the cashier to sell you a porn, Maggie. You had one set of boobs for a month, and that's all you were cranking to. If you wanted to place a bet, your dad had to have a shady friend. He had to be working through a bookie. You know, you had to go through the lines in the newspaper. There was some, there was some barriers to keep you from getting there. And yet it made it worth more when you got him.

you know we we always used to say like the wire season three was like you know if we legalized drugs there'd actually be less uh bad usage and more people could actually get sober like this kind of conversed thing they legalized a lot of drugs in like Portland they're remake they're making them illegal again yeah yeah it was bad for the this it was bad for the situation um so yeah maybe it's just it's just how are we dosing it to across the board it's too much in people's heads I don't know what the solution is. A lot of these, like COSA, which Ro Khanna was supporting, I've talked to people in social media. They think it's good politics, bad policy.

He's just doing that to draw up a win so he can say I was doing stuff. Like, is it actually going to work? I don't know. I don't have the solution to that. I don't know. No problem. But maybe less. Maybe less in kids faces.

I think we can all agree on that. Okay. No problem. But protect the kids. But hold on a second. I'm done. I'm done spinning. But I'm curious, though, do you feel like that's coming at it from the lens of

nostalgia, a pro-regulation standpoint. Do you feel like you just want to spoon-feed everybody or should you just let the kids play and fuck up and hurt themselves and then learn? And the best ones will learn. But don't they like I'm even talking like in Europe you're not allowed to advertise for like pharmaceuticals. Really? Like I mean isn't the problem in America and we're a great country, the best country. I love us more than everybody. Number one. Number one. But the way that we put commodification above everything else means that you're constantly being sold to. And I don't think we have This is the thing we're circling back to throughout the pod. Maybe it's the theme of the whole show is just, do we have a strong enough filtering process to resist that?

I'm addicted to porn. Dude, by the way, I listen to the Tucker Carlson, Nick Flintos interview. Sure. Tucker's style of interviewing when he'll say something outrageous, it's so funny when he's like, he's like, he's like, and porn makes you gay. And he goes, he goes, what is that? It's so funny. You know what? I was, I guess the thing with that, if we're going into there, is Tucker's great

presenter, great interviewer, his pace is good. I could learn a ton from him. Right. That was a softball-ass interview, if I've ever heard one. Because Tucker did no research. Right. Like Nick Fuentes is like, learning about him on the spot. Yeah, which is good for conversation.

but bad for all of us like he should he could have done a it sounded like he did 10 minutes of prep like he's like Nick Fentis is like I got banned by TSA I'm not allowed to fly I was on the no flies list for a year and Tucker's like what and then Nick's like yeah

and he's like because of like did you do something wrong and Nick's like no they banned me just because I was a like you know because of my beliefs and then Tucker's like that's incredible and then they move on I'm like yo Tucker why did he get banned Well, so he says it's because of his beliefs, but then there's, and I don't know the truth,

but there's counter arguments online that it was because he got into an altercation with a flight attendant. Oh, really? And then so I'm like, bro, you know, it would have been helpful, tuck, if you did some background research on this. So you would have already had the counter arguments. And then you could have been like, well, I've heard this. And actually there was a report here. But instead, it just lands as, you know, his version of it.

And then that's it. I'm like, that's not like. and I guess my bigger argument is like not that that's all Tucker's job or all anyone else's job but like who's doing the journalism like who's right where is that happening yeah I mean and if you're interviewing that guy you are a journalist you do I think you do have a duty to all of us to kind of know about that shit I didn't know anything about Nick Fuentes and I watched that interview at least part of it and I think that was geared towards me somebody who has no clue who the sky is right Tucker was acting like you know the vessel for that

He was like, who are you? What do you do? But I don't think that's helped. I think you still got to do research and know who you're talking to so that it's an informed conversation and like I got back on certain things. Yeah. And then like and then he asked him like who do you think should run for president, which is a substantive question and an important one. And then Fuentes was like Kanye, which to me was a joke. Was it a joke? I mean, yeah, I think I think he'll say it wasn't. But like it I don't think that was him being genuine. And I think he was him. getting out of actually answering the question and then Tucker just moved on and I was like so that was like the kind of one of the few like forward looking questions he asked him about policy and then like or about like something that would have a big impact for all of us and like then they just kind of like I'm like I don't know yeah yeah I don't know much about Nick Fuentes but that whole interview that the parts that I saw they were talking about Israel Palestine the whole time or Israel big chunk of it yeah and seems like everyone talks about that

and you know that's a big thing now everyone brought that up with Charlie Kirk now with Nick Fuentes pretty softball they're saying yeah I was surprised because I'd seen Tucker like go after Ted Cruz so hard and go after Sam Altman so hard yeah but now I've listened to more of his episodes and I realize he actually gives right he does a couple hard-ass moves like that so if you just know him from clips you're like fuck bro Tucker goes after a motherfucker Well, he accused the same moment of murder. Of murder. Yeah.

On the podcast. Which was insane. Dude, I watched that shit. Like, I could only actually watch it once because it was so tense. Yeah. But it stuck in my memory and I've replayed it in my head a bunch. But, like, but most of his interviews are actually pretty soft. Yeah.

Yeah. Where he's just like, really? Well, he interviewed Putin was like, you guys got really cool stores here. Exactly. Like, bring that same energy, dog. Yeah. But, okay. He also interviewed the president of Iran, I think.

Well, okay, that's what I wanted to transition to. Good shit, bro. Oh, nice. Dude, so you're Persian, Iranian, your dad lives in Iran. Yeah. Can you, do you mind? Can you talk about, because we were, we shot with you a video one day while the bombing was going on in Iran. Oh, yeah.

Could you kind of recount, like having those conversations with your dad and stuff? Oh, damn, that's heavy. Yeah. Is it too heavy? I thought it'd be. No, no, it's fine. I mean, I got to remember. I ran so far away, someone wrote.

Yeah, because Iran got bombed early in the year. It was in the summertime. And that was crazy. Because I don't think Iran has been really bombed or been in a war in a long, long time. But, yeah, it was, what was the context again? It was like... Man, see, I'm going to have to tell you what your dad said to you while he was getting bombed. Oh, you want to know what my dad said.

Your memory is just trash for such a... big dramatic moment. I thought you would get there right away. I remember more than you do. No, he said some really impactful stuff. First of all, it was, let me just break it down real quick. It was awkward, it was an awkward bombing. I'll say that. Because nobody wants to be bombed. And so I had lost touch with my family because there's no internet signal at the time. I can't get a hold of anybody. My cousin had just left the U.S. to go to Iran weeks before and he's stuck there and I'm like trying to reach him and my dad to see who's safe what's going on and um at 5 a.m you could call for like 20 seconds you could get through

and it would cut off after like 10 20 seconds so I I tried every morning for a while get a hold of my cousin and I reached out to my cousin and I said um like I finally got a hold of him first of all is elated he was alive too I said what's going on is everything like what are you he goes yeah can you not hear it and then he was had a quick chunk a few seconds to tell me that he was having some wild sex during this time and that he had just recently discovered his new fetish he said I've never had sex like this before he said this is something I probably can't um you know I'm gonna this is my new thing is to the the bombings happening and you're having sex It's like, you're so present.

I've never been this present. So that's great. But how's everyone is alive? So anyways, that's my cousin. Took me more time to get in touch with my dad. I finally texted with my dad. And he sent me some really powerful messages about, you know, we're okay. We've been hit, bombed.

We're safe. But if in case I don't make it, I want you. to know that I just got a really nice new vacuum cleaner and I'll leave it to your name. And I realized he was kidding. And I realized that my dad has a sense of humor in these tough moments. And he then went on to say something like, life is a song and dance, never take it too seriously.

At the end of the day, we're all fucked. And he said some really powerful things in that moment, which I can't remember the exact wording of, I remember thinking about it and thinking to myself, oh, my God, they're over there in like a potentially life or death situation. And this is the attitude. And you can pick how you live your life and you can decide how you react to situations. I'm over here freaking out about losing a job or, you know, paying my rent mortgage or whatever.

They're over there worrying about a very different scope of things. And that's the reaction that they picked. And it made me realize, like, you know, we have so much in our control. Like, we can decide how we live our lives and how we react to things and horrible things. It's really a choice. I don't know if that's what you wanted to talk about, but... That just fired me. That was beautiful, Amir.

You nailed it. I love that. So... And it makes you think, too, you know, how epic were the nuts in World War II? Crazy. Nobody talks about that. Yeah. Like, can you imagine it?

I mean, we saw it. in the Jude Law movie, Enemy at the Gates, I believe. You know, he just busted a fat load. But imagine if you're, like, let's see you're in London, bombs are falling, and you're doing doggie. You know, there's a band, say anything, alive with the power of glory of love. Bro, that song is about two Jewish people getting it down before the Nazis come in. Wow.

Wow. And it's probably my favorite song of all time. That's sick. Wow. It's a baghathoner. Yeah, people don't really bring that shit up. Yeah. You should write a dong song and be like,

we're about to nut like we're in World War II. But World War II, a lot of the people were separated. The man was out abroad fighting for. No, but yeah, I'm talking about getting German strange too. Oh. I'm talking about you're in a French village. And all of a sudden, Claudette comes over with those, you know, a bucket of pastries. And you're just like,

She's like, thank you for protecting us. You said, where'd you learn English? She's like, my father was a traveling musician, and he lived in New York for a few years. He's like, your dad's from New York, huh? I'm from New York. And you just look at each other. You ever try to H&H bagel?

And then you go look up. We've got a battle coming up in a little bit. I'm in love with you. That fast. Wow. I would have eaten so much butt. would you yeah just eat that ass i picture you i'm going even a little bit just visually i'm going earlier it's w w one it's a trench there's 12 french broads lined up with their

deriers just right at eye level and you're on your knees side shuffling through the mud just tasting and testing that's a good dairy impression yeah lieutenant lieutenant we are about to mobilize oh all right I'm ready do you guys know the history of the falling out between Hooters founders no oh do you he wasn't he wasn't expecting us to lock in like that Do you guys know the history of the falling out between Hooters founders? No. Crazy.

So they start Hooters. Right away it's a success. It starts growing. You know, it's booming. They're setting up different locations. One of the founders, Danny, had an issue. He was an ass man. and he brought up to the board he's like look

the core message of hooters is antithetical to my passions and my truth so he organized a coup a takeover of the company so that he could start his own so that he could change it to a restaurant that prioritizes ass the other founders found out about this

forced him out of the company and he started to create his own competitor called Dumpers which focused on Mata sticks and ass Wow

and it never made it Wow it's like the the Tesla which was a Tesla like Edison is tits and Nikolai Tesla

is like booty that's crazy isn't that nuts so where is he now he became a plastic surgeon he does BBLs he still made his life into something important yeah

great Cooper guys I was going to say that he should name thighs and pies oh you should start that yeah dies and pies yeah yeah because then pie also suggests the cooter which is nice i just i just wanted to fuck that sentence he said dude the vet was so rude to my dog last week really i get the report back my dog had just like a basic physical you know blood work urinalysis i look at the report says the coat good you know um blood blood looks good urine looks good um gums look good then I see body five out of nine I call the vet I'm like yo do you just call my dog a five that goes that's how we rate

body composition so like nine is severely overweight a one is severely underweight I'm like don't play games with me you call my dog a five yeah you know you did yeah yeah what kind of scale is strongest in the middle exactly i'm like my dog's a 10 out of nine you know and was the vet hot yeah oh and i thought it was like a subtle dig it's like look your dog is healthy but you know just a five wow and and and and i was like you know i just took so much umbrage with it i was like yo you know you know it's like i already think like raiding women is like kind of not cool but rating dogs they're like pure of heart and to see a medical professional doing that you know i you know i i i've seen a lot of vets like that

to be honest they just show up on the high horse you know it's like who gave you the right to to to be treating dogs like that they're pissed because dogs are so cute. They're jealous. And if the vet is cute, they're like, no one's saying I'm cute. They're saying the dog's cute. But guess what? Your dog is at five.

And I'm like, look, you need to check your privilege at the door. You think they're just, they're setting you up to fail by making a scale out of nine to begin with? Because you'll never be at 10. Hondo P. They're like, oh, yeah, best you can do is nine. Yeah, and then you chase their validation. Yeah. You keep going back to the vet, like, please tell me.

seven yeah with your tail between your legs yeah just totally giving away my masculine energy yeah dude and i didn't even tell my dog i didn't even like oh of course not she's like let me see she was like let me see the report i'm like you don't even want to see you're you're so healthy it'll make you like it'll make you your ego go through the roof yeah is lolla's is Is Lola your dog still addicted to porn? Yeah. You know, when she was born, they said she had an outy vagina. Wow.

Which is like, kind of like her clit is, you know, it's just massive, bro. A protrusion? A protruding clit. Yeah. Because dogs, their clit is inside, you know. You guys know what I'm talking about. Yeah, she always like that? Yeah, the vet.

That again was like your dog has a huge clip. It looks like a dick. And I was like, dude. Whoa. That happens. Audi. I think they're kind of born from the same matter. Yeah.

And I'm like, dude, like, see yeah, my dog is like just straight up just like humping my leg. And, you know, I'll come home and she like figured out the remote. Dogs are so smart these days. She figured out the remote. She's watching Skinnamax. Luckily, she doesn't do the hardcore stuff. She watches like, you know. yeah you know regular yeah regular yeah yeah yeah yeah bush so i'm kind of the language police

okay i'll tell people hey you can use that word you can't use that word like i told finance guys you're not allowed to use the word froth oh yeah okay go ahead you got issue with that well i don't have issue but but you did you ever find out who came up with it first well green span didn't use it till like 05 to describe the housing market so i know surfers who were using it in 92 whoa okay all right you got a point so i'm pretty solid on all right that Megan trainer her big hit all about that bass the song's about being a big girl and how fire that is which i love I love a big girl She got on a Zen pick

She's half the size She's still using that song To me you're not in that club anymore You self-selected your way out And that's good for you You're skinny You look great You seem happy

But You don't get to have your cake Literally and eat it anymore Especially because she No you go Especially because she took that cake from us she gave away her cake yeah she gave her away her cake to big pharma

and so my thing is like i don't know to me if you're a skinny mini now i don't want to use derogatory terms but you know i'm just trying to keep the flow like listenable if you do something where you're no longer big you're skinny you're like i don't know it put it this way if the ying ying twins became white would we still let them say the N-word? That's, I mean, that's a tough, that's a tough comparison because, of course, I would.

That's actually a really good point. How many times? That's going to be a clip. I think that's going to be a clip. How many times can they say it, though? It's going to be tough to chop up, but I think there's something there, Jake. How many times? I mean, you know I'm the, you know I'm the enforcer of the,

this. And for those guys, I gave it a million. Whoa. A million times. You know, maybe we'll cap it here. I mean, I can hang with you guys all day. I'm having a ball. But, uh, yeah, it's fun. You know, Joe is the one who gets all the credit or the notoriety, let's say, for having a big dong. Mm. Hmm. Hmm.

I've heard from you that you have a big dong. Yeah, you've heard it from me. You told me. I did. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, I don't like to, when we're talking about Joe's Dong or singing about it, I like to give him the glory. I mean, you know, it's mythical. It's legendary. It's probably the biggest dong ever. But I don't want to come out and change the attention or the, you know, steal anything from this. And I'm here to honor that Dong. But at the end of the day, I have to be truthful and authentic to myself, too, because, you know, I'm not a tall guy, right? I'm a shorter guy and people don't really, um, really ever like expect that. But, but I don't know what to say or do.

So I kind of just kind of try to keep it, you know, not, not really like steal the attention, hog it all here, no pun intended. But, but, but yeah, I have a, I have a big dong. That's all we wanted to know. Yeah, yeah. how big um i've never measured it but are we talking girth or length or both it's it's both yeah yeah you know what's interesting you mentioned you're not the tallest guy but you got a big dong joe not the tallest guy huge dong my old roommate not the tallest guy huge dong wow my buddy from high school was about my height not very tall huge dong it's possible that when you're developing your body

that's where it all goes to and that that kind of stunts a little bit of of your height um and it's it's a it's a tough thing to bring up right because like i know you guys have marched for small dongs and i stand by that and i want to be a support i want to be an ally but i mean like i have to live my truth too you know like i am i am a you're a big don't it sounds bad but no it doesn't it sounds honest i think that's what we've always been in support of is like just transparency yeah yeah i just think it's cool that we like subconsciously befriend big dong guys balance yeah it's like I didn't know about your dong literally till now wow and I've been

staring at your bulge and I'm like makes total sense um you know you have a prodigious bulge and I try to draw inspiration from it when I'm singing about Joe's dong you know what I mean it's you got to you got to sing about what you know and in this case I like to bring that type of energy now Kevin I don't think he has a big dong at all I think he may might actually be on the microscopic level, but I know that he has a huge fascination and appreciation for a big dong. It's aspirational. One of these things about it.

Yeah. Have you slapped someone with your cock? Consensually. Yeah. That's sick. Yeah. God bless. I will say this too.

I forgot what I was going to say, actually. All right, well, should we call it? Yeah. Or I got one more, yep. Yeah, well, I had one more little prepared thing. Then if we're going to do this cut that I said, we're going to call it. Let's call it. I think we're good.

Jack Antonoff. Leave all that in. I want people to know I know how to land a plane. Do you? No, I meant more of like a podcast. Yeah. I'm going to need a voice These cards are

going to be in the eyes Goalindoo, going to be You're trying to take tea