Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 425 - STRIDER'S HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT
Episode Date: February 6, 2026Today we are joined by the T-DART Tyrant, Strider Wilson to rip some HOT TAKES but FIRST he has HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT. WE are so stoked on the news and are looking forward to what the future holds. CHECK ...OUT OUR NEW YOUTUBE SERIES: https://youtu.be/PSjlBzbrQXU?si=2w70u3Yx-5OlLOKH We are live streaming a fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://appreeshapparel.com/ Come see us on Tour! Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Thanks to our Sponsors: Talkiatry: Online Psychiatry that prioritizes YOU! Go to https://www.talkiatry.com/godeep and get the help you need today! KALSHI: Place bets on events, sports & politics - Go to https://kalshi.com/ and use code godeep and get an extra $10 when you deposit PRODUCTION & EDITS BY: Jake Rohret
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Zip it up and zip it down Stokers of Stoke Nation.
This is Chad Kerrugher coming in with the Going Deepen chat JT podcast.
Sorry, I have the hiccups.
We got my compadre JT on the Zoom here.
JT. what about?
Boom clap, Stoker.
And then we got the maestro of muff.
Let's try to Wilson.
Thank you very much.
So the conductor.
I don't want to say the word that rhymes with it.
It just seems too harsh right up top.
Kondelangus?
of C-U-N-T.
Oh.
Yeah.
Seemed too hard up top.
No.
We've got to ease into it.
No, that's our new lane.
You can't just drop a C-U-N-T.
Or can you?
I don't know.
So, guys, J-T is on the Zoom.
Sorry, guys, I got the hiccups right before the start.
It'll go away.
Yeah, I just need to not think about it.
Or do you bend forward, right?
Have you seen that?
Yeah, yeah, here we go.
Ben forward and then put the glass up.
It's supposed to be the trick.
Mm.
Interesting, Ben.
It's almost impossible, it seems.
I think that cured it.
Fuck.
Did you hiccup?
Yeah.
Okay, I'll give you $5 if you hiccup in the next one minute.
Think about that.
Are you drinking Scotch Strider?
This is it.
Dude, so J.T.
I have this Maker's Market.
It's a whiskey.
This is a bourbon.
Because Daddy.
is celebrating his free time right now.
And the reason that you're zooming from afar is because you've been feeling ill.
And so I have to apologize to the Stokers because JT looks vibrant, healthy, strong like he always does.
But he's got a little bit of a sniffle and has a little bit of a, you know, whatever bug.
And I'm a little bit worried about being around that because at home, there's a little mother.
fucking bun in the oven.
Hey, come on.
So I got to be safe.
The wife.
Yep.
I've had sex proven one time.
Document it.
I can't believe you're going to be a dad, dude.
I'm so excited.
Dude, I'm pumped.
You're a great dad.
Dude, you're a great dad.
I'm taking you and your dank-ass wife are so nice.
You guys did a nice call.
Like, you could tell when I texted the thread, I'm like, what are some good books?
And then you just, you called me and you're like, you're like,
bro it's all good like this this this so that was really nice um yeah i think there's a lot of those days
where you get anxious and you're like man what am i getting into how can i prepare for this and i
yeah i think you're doing the right thing by trying to prepare but so much of it is a a surprise so you just
try to uh um you know be loving and and be steady for your fan but be you're you're those things
all the time so i don't have any doubts that you're going to crush it and uh thank you you'll be
you'll be ready for whatever comes.
I'm fired up, dude.
I'm fired up.
I'm a big sleeper.
So I'm really worried about that.
A lot of my worries are selfish.
I'm not like,
oh, is my kid going to be like healthy or whatever,
dude, he's not going to have an eyeball.
My kid could be a cyclops, fine.
But as long as I sleep, dude,
like, that's what matters.
Yeah.
Oh, no, that shouldn't be an issue.
Kids don't wake up a lot.
Good, dude.
Let them sleep.
Let those things, let him sleep.
No, I'm being sarcastic, dude.
Fuck.
You know what's one of my favorite dad jokes?
dude. Whenever someone says they're tired after a long trip, you know, they get back from the airport,
you go shake hands. All right, man, hey, get home safe.
As soon as I get home, man, I'm going to sleep like a baby. I go, wake up every two minutes,
screaming? Classic joke. You know what, but if your kid takes after you,
because I know you were saying that your dank ass wife, that she's been waking up a little bit.
Yeah. You guys think the kid might get regimented to that even. I do. Yeah. This is theory.
but if the kid takes after you you are one of the all-time sleepers you famously overslept an appointment
you had at 3 p.m. You did? Yeah, yep I woke up it was like 258 I was like holy shit
I like kept hitting snooze for like four hours I was like there's no way there's no way
it's not until the afternoon and I look at the clock I'm like oh my god there's a way
I did it that's amazing your kid could be a prodigy dude and just come
out the gates and just be eight hours a night that'd be so rad that'd be so
proud that'd be sick that'd be so proud but you want to feed them you want them to
get big though too so you got to be you know giving them the that's true
given them the sustenance but but you know probably get some alpha brain from rogan
put that in there yeah probably get some um you know start making sentences at like a week
probably some rishi mushroom get that in there dude some dieting creatine for sure right off the
bat dude you want to chop up some bull penis bull penis oh no no question about that that's i mean
that's that's a given so yeah i i i alpha brain works i've taken it a couple times i've had like
my best stand-up sets on it but it gives you a massive headache you had your best fantasy draft on it
that was brooks brooks borrowed my alpha brain and won the super bowl are you serious yeah
he borrowed it for the draft yeah i brought it to the draft and briggs was like give me some of
that and then he freaking ripped it damn he sucks every other year bro he's the worst he's the worst
He's the worst. He's the worst guy.
He's the best guy in the world, but he's the worst at fantasy.
Terrible.
I think he beat me that year, too.
He had freaking DeAndre Hopkins dropped like a 40 burger on Thursday.
But yeah.
No, your kid's going to be a beast, though.
Do you guys, have you revealed to the world?
The gender?
Yeah.
It'll be a little girl.
Yeah, little girl.
Very stoked.
Very excited.
Very excited.
I'm excited to have a little girl, dude.
I think I've got...
Your girl then.
Yeah, I think I, this was in the car.
for me for the beginning. If I was going to bet on that, I'd be like, girl dad. And I've got
a niece and she's the best. So I'm so excited. And yeah, it's awesome. What, uh, um, you know,
what's funny is I was talking to my cousin on the phone the day you told us or you, the day
you like, I was like, I was like, yeah, I don't know. You know, he was like, he's like,
when do you think Strad's going to have become? I'm like, I don't know. And it was like,
literally that day. It was in my, my wife kind of blew it too. Yeah. It's funny.
Well, no, it's not even your dank wife's fault.
Like, we've been doing the Hollander impression to each other so much.
And, like, we'll call each other and we'll just, like, I'll leave voice memos, everything.
So you probably thought I was just going to hollander you.
But then I was like, dude, I had this amazing news to tell you and kept missing them.
And I didn't want to leave a voicemail.
Right, right, right, right.
So then I would leave a Hollander voicemail.
And then he'd be like, oh, that was what that was.
So it was kind of a perfect storm.
Do you think, do you think if you keep doing the Hollander thing, your kid will have a Russian accent?
I hope so.
Yeah, I do.
Hello, Strider.
Strider.
Strider.
Simple.
Hello, Mom.
Give me the milk.
Simple.
Simple.
Simple.
Simple milk.
You don't understand.
Look, I'm an excellent hockey player.
And I'd like to bone.
Get out of my room.
I'll just be excited if my daughter's gothic one day, dude.
Simple.
Get out of my room.
Simple.
Are you going to like raise your religious?
You know, I think there's some good stuff to, I mean, I'm just so lazy.
Like, there's no way, bro, that I'm going to go to church every Sunday.
Probably should.
You did?
I think it's important to have community, but I did like every Sunday.
Dude, I didn't even know there was a church that wasn't 9 o'clock mass.
I found out there was like an evening and an 11.
I'm like, why, Mom, Dad, why you've been boning us my whole life?
You went every weekend growing up?
Yeah.
What a chore for your parents to have to get five kids in the car to mass every Sunday.
Bro, do you know what they did?
They went, they dropped us off.
My parents, first of all, were hilarious.
They both wore sunglasses inside church, odd.
And then, although it was in Edwards.
Yeah, it's not okay.
Does the Bible green light that?
I guess sunglasses weren't around.
Yeah, I'm like, wait trying to be all cool in church.
and then they would just leave us in there.
So for an hour, and then my mom, like, we would come back and they'd have Starbucks.
And we'd be like, you guys just fucking went to Starbucks.
And then it's Catholic.
So then right after church, there's CCD, which is like Catholic school and like you go
learn about the Bible and stuff.
That was another two hours.
So this was just babysitting.
Right.
This is what this was.
How long is that total?
The best babysitter in the world.
You start at nine.
When would you end?
12.30.
Damn.
Three and a half hours.
It's an hour of mass.
They would have to come back and, like, get us from mass to the CCD area.
And there was a free donut involved after that, which was sick.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, so, I mean, if they've got that going on, yeah.
And there's some good values in there, you know.
Man's institutions are fallible, but, you know, the almighty himself is not.
Amen, brother.
Dude, I took, this Sunday I took my kids to the zoo, which is an amazing thing.
But I was telling Chad, when he pull into the Burbank,
kind of great too, like top notch.
When you pull in there, there's a hundred protesters with speakers calling you a monster
because they think the elephants being held against his will.
Whoa.
But he's even, they shipped him out.
He's at a sanctuary in Texas, but they're still there every day.
And so you're just rolling in with your kids and it like really, you know, they're probably
right, but it's just crushing the vibe.
And I don't know, I was feeling like a smart ass, I guess, and I kind of had a smile on my face
and one of the guys goes, get that smile off your face, man.
Oh, no way.
Yeah, and we like, and I kind of like, I didn't jaw at them, but I was like, oh, like,
I gave him like a face.
And then, um, but yeah, the zoo's great.
I will say this.
I didn't see any of the elephant protesters at the ice protest.
They must have, you know, they got to fire.
Exactly.
The humanity.
Did, what do you do if you see the animals mating at the zoo?
Your kids are too young to even register that, probably.
Um, I think my kids would be into it.
I let them watch.
Yeah.
It probably depends on the animals.
I mean, we saw the, we got, we had great luck.
We saw the tiger.
We saw the wolf.
We saw the snow leopards.
Oh, that's sick.
Yeah.
That's a great run.
You know, it was insane.
It was insane.
Wow.
The guy next to me was like, we've never seen the tiger before.
He's sleeping all day.
And he was walking around.
My daughter.
Really?
Good vocabulary already.
She goes, he's very handsome.
Are you serious?
Really?
Yeah.
That's because she hears her dad say that in the mirror, handsome.
Handsome.
handsome every morning
no she calls me peanut butter and jelly
face does she really
dude that's me
I like it though
I like it though
dude my niece calls me
my niece one time goes
you look like a shoe
I don't know what that means
but I didn't like it
I don't like that
I don't like that
for some reason I like it when my
I was picking her up before bed to night
and I was going
do I have a peanut butter and jelly face
and she goes yeah
and I go where's the peanut butter and jelly
and she'll like touch my lips or something
you know for the zoo protesters
And we may have mentioned this before, but my hot take is the zoo is for parents and kids.
Because it is an amazing experience for children, albeit like, I don't know the dynamic of animals.
I know some of them are comfortable with territory and maybe the cage of the territory,
and it's not as big as in nature.
I get that.
I get the idea of a cell and that's a bummer.
But I do think it's a nice thing.
And like when I have my daughter, like, for sure I'm going to take her to go see those animals.
I would just, you know, there's the white.
wild animal park in San Diego, which is like a conservatory.
So there's ways, I don't know.
Is that different from the San Diego Zoo?
It's different.
Yeah.
It's different.
Dude, it's actually sicker than the San Diego Zoo.
And the San Diego Zoo is amazing, but I think the wild animal park's sicker.
They have like a mini Serengeti where the animals all interact and shit.
Oh, that's sick.
It's sick.
But it's a whole day trip.
Like, you're not going to do that if you live in Burbank.
Like, you're not going to San Diego.
Yeah.
That would be cool.
I hear where they were coming from.
I think I was just tired and like, you know, you're with your kids.
so you're like on defense a little bit but uh i think if i do my due diligence i'm sure i'll
find out that that they're correct but i talked to a former one time i was like how do you know
if your cows are happy and he just says if they're eating their chud
eating their chud hilarious i uh i don't know like it seems you know like in blackfin they said
it was if the the dorsal fin curved or whatever well i i uh i'll take
photos of my dog and send them to chat GPT I'm like what's your read are you serious yeah
yeah she happy he's like yeah dude she's chilling I have it are you sure dude
jack JET you knows bro and he really does know it does it analyzes it's like it's like ears aren't
pinned backed faces relaxed eyes are soft this is it and so if I have like this is her and her I'm just
having to snuggle in a me time moment.
Yeah.
And I'm like, wow.
She's a very happy dog, Lola.
She's always got a lot of energy.
Oh, thank.
Yeah, she's always.
It probably just cheated.
I probably saw it was a golden.
It's like, yeah, your dog's fine.
Yeah.
It's a good.
AI is taking cutting corners.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If it's like humans, it will do that.
Has Sunny started to respond differently?
Does he sniff?
Like, he sniffs.
He, um, we taught him not to hop.
He hops on us, which we like.
but now we don't want him to hop on my dank wife's belly so he goes around now and he like he's
he treads a little more carefully um and he's been very affectionate he's been very affectionate
especially with my dank wife sleeps yeah he like nozzles in yeah that's pretty cute that's cool
I mean they can smell everything these dogs dude they know oh they know yeah they know yeah
yeah jiji started pissing on the floor and like ripping up the trash like the night we found out she
ripped up the trash can really oh she's yeah she's like
Yeah, she knew she was going to get displaced a little bit.
Dude, Sunny got diarrhea, kind of when we found out.
Yeah, I think they, I think they, they sense the energy shift and they're like, this is not going to be good for me.
Damn.
But it's kind of a good movie, Lady and the Tramp, isn't that what that is?
It's like they kind of, the baby shows up and then the dogs kind of got a...
Is that what happens?
Is that what the inciting incident in that is?
Yeah, I think it is, yeah.
That's the catalyst.
Sorry.
Sonny's like
he's like
oh you're pregnant
just shits on the floor
exactly dude
we get a crib or whatever
and all the baby stuff
and just fucking shits in all of it
it's great
in dog custom
that's actually celebratory
yeah yeah
exactly
that is like that is
like that just
yeah let me piss on you real quick
congratulate you
yeah
that's hilarious
dude it's a big year
2026 dude
stepping into
daddy mode you're going to be getting
getting married soon
yeah yeah
We got your batch.
You won't be far behind.
Yeah, bro.
Your batch party coming up.
Yeah.
Scott'sdale.
Are you going to have, is Marco going to walk your dank wife down the aisle or is he,
or are you going to walk her down the aisle?
Then he'll do the whole ceremony segment.
He's going to, he's going to carry her.
Okay.
Yeah, he's going to lift her up and carry her.
He's so strong.
That's going to be easy for him.
I bet you he doesn't even like, no imbalance, just a steady men of honor walk.
They're practicing right now.
He does.
one arm. Oh, that's good. Good. He carries her around the neighborhood and then he
takes her home and stretches her. You know what's weird? Yeah, stretches her out. Yeah. Yeah, good.
I'd ask, because my fiance did the same thing. My wife and I'd be like, how was practice?
She's like, it was great. I'm sore. I'm like, you're sore from being carried? Yeah.
Interesting. It is interesting. Yeah. I know. She's like, like, yeah, we're just going to
watch a movie. We're just going to watch
Saving Private Ryan. I'm like
well that's my favorite movie. You never watched that with me.
She's like well Marco
knows history so he's going to walk me through.
But then she'll be like yeah I'm sore after watching
saving Private Ryan. Interesting.
And I'm like well it is a tense
movie I guess you could say but I've never
been sore after
but she's exhausted.
So similarly
they watched American President together
which is a movie I really you know just adore
Yeah.
And then she came home.
I was still excited to talk about it.
I'm like, Michael Douglas was ripping in that thing.
She's like, what?
Michael Douglas was in what?
I'm like, what?
Yeah.
Really?
She had no idea of Michael Douglas was in the movie.
I guess he's such a chameleon.
Yeah, he just slips into the role.
Yeah, exactly.
Wow.
It's crazy.
Yeah, slips in.
Yeah.
Is that what she said, right?
Yeah, she said, oh, he just slips into that role.
My wife, she knows I love the Civil War, and she watched
Gettysburg.
It's a four and a half hour movie.
Ken Burns.
No, no, that's the documentary one, but there's one from 1993.
I think it's Robert Maxwell's the director.
I really love it. Jeff Daniels is in it.
There's also gods and generals.
Anyway, she's like, can you believe who's your most favorite Robert E. Lee?
Is it Martin Sheen or Robert DeVall?
And I was going to answer, and she goes, no, no, shut up.
I'm on the phone with Marco.
But I couldn't tell because her voice was hoarse from watching Gettysburg on DVD.
Does that ever happen?
Like, does your wife ever get a sore throat from watching, like, a DVD?
Yeah.
She heard all sorts of weird things happen to her voice when I call her when she's with Marco.
Like, sometimes, like, she can't get the words out.
It's like she's gagging.
Oh.
Yeah, sometimes it's tough reception.
It must be like a Brazilian cell phone company or something.
Yeah.
She's with Marco right now.
I tried calling her.
And she was like, a.
told you not to call me.
What times your appointment?
What times your wife said by?
The boundaries are important.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My wife has an appointment with Marco later too.
Tonight?
Yeah, I'm going to pick them up later after the pod.
She said, she said you can record as long as you want.
Don't worry.
So, so no stress.
He's a busy guy.
He is a busy guy.
Wow.
He's so cool.
He's so cool.
You know, as cool is, I don't know if you guys do this too.
When I drive them around, they sit in the back.
see like it's an Uber.
Yeah, that's, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I just don't think he has a, he has a motorcycle, but not a,
um, regular car license.
Mm-hmm.
So it makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Mm-hmm.
They make me, um, they put up like a beach towel, like a limo style.
Uh-huh.
So I really, I can't look back.
Yeah.
I guess it's something with like the humidity and Pilates and just create, I mean,
the ligaments get loose.
or that way or something.
It's kind of like a warm up, I guess.
Yeah.
And they make me turn the music up.
Well, cheers to Marco.
Yeah, cheers.
Oh, you downed your glass of water.
I down my glass, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, you go.
Is it bad form to cheers with water?
I've heard that.
I feel that's kind of discriminatory.
I'm like, cheers whatever fluid you got, brother.
Yeah, maybe it's all water.
Like, if everyone's cheering water, but JT's got like a hydration drink over there,
I've got a whiskey.
And I mean, you've got L.A. tap water, so brother, God knows what's in there.
Yeah, gray water, baby.
That was shit two weeks ago.
Oh, is it already toilet water?
No, actually, I don't think that's in the drinking supply yet, but we'll get there.
You feel great.
What do you think, speaking of weird stuff of ingesting?
What do you think got you, bro, if you're down to share?
I think I got norovirus, but I didn't get the kind where you're shitting and pukin.
I just had a terrible stomach cramps and like no energy.
I slept 20 hours on Monday.
Whoa.
And we were supposed to shoot.
Yeah.
And I was going to try and like, thank God I didn't.
I would have been asleep.
I tried to shoot today with Giga's and I couldn't do it.
You know, just in the cars.
Yeah, like I had to bother people.
And the first lady I asked you, you know, you got to have energy to like kind of, you know,
do that on the street stuff.
I'm like, hey, man, can I, uh, can I, uh,
and I bother you for a little bit
and she just walked away
and I just put my head in my hand
and she goes,
it's all right if we don't shoot man.
The cheeks.
Yeah, so I had the Noro
and that banged me up for like 36 hours
and then right when I got better from that
I got a pretty wicked cold
and that's kind of what had me
banged up today.
Amuno compromise, bro.
That's what's up.
I know, but it's just...
Are the little kiddos is okay?
Yeah, dude.
my son, Tank, he got it first.
All he did was throw up once and then he was over it.
And he was fine, like from then on.
Being young rules.
He just threw up out of nowhere.
I thought it was from our food until then my wife got it too.
And then I was like, okay, we're all passing something around.
But yeah, the kids are okay.
They're tough.
Yeah.
But they probably started it for sure.
I think that's how it goes, right?
They're in daycare.
It's at that stage.
They bring stuff.
These are the things about having a kid that I look forward to
or I'm like, show, we're a mask around my kid,
but I'm like, that's weird.
I'm not doing that.
That'd be hilarious.
Like, my dad's an alien.
Yeah.
Because Aaron used to come in when we were recording like sick all the time.
Yeah, bro.
And I didn't have kids yet.
And I couldn't like comprehend.
I'm like, dude, you came to work with a cold.
But then once you have like babies and toddlers,
you just, you just sick changes.
You're just like, yeah, I'm always in certain, in a stage of being sick or just coming off being sick, and you just get used to it for a couple years.
It's a, it was a big mental flip for me because I'm such a hypochondriac, but yeah, you'll get through it, right.
Do you, do you feel as much, or you just kind of, like, used to it?
You don't feel the colds I don't feel as much.
So I was like, I didn't think this one would bang me up that much, but then this one, like, I had to slow down.
Normally I can power through, but this one I was like,
I felt like such a pussy, but yeah, I just beat the shit out of me.
Yeah.
I was just floored.
It'll fuck you up.
Just laying on the couch, just sleeping.
I didn't realize norovirus is the thing that tears through cruise ships.
Yeah, so I'm happy about that because I don't think we're going to get it.
I don't think there's a lot of strains.
You'll be safe.
Yeah.
Oh, you guys are doing a cruise soon.
We're doing cruise, yeah.
That's going to be, I saw that.
That's sick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think, and this isn't to take away how cool we are, we got nice billing on the poster.
I saw that.
But I think we're replacing Adam Ray.
I think so, too.
Because I could see from the comments, we were like, what happened, Adam Ray?
And this is the third or fourth time we've replaced Adam Ray on a gig, like the last year.
So we must have the same agents or management.
We do have the same agent.
Yes.
Every time, Adam.
You know, he's busy, guys crushing it.
They're always great gigs, too.
I'm always psyched.
But, yeah, I hope he stays busy.
Yeah, keep going Adam Ray, baby.
Yeah, yeah.
Bucks of movies, dude.
Yeah, shout out Adam.
Yeah, bro.
Dr. Phil to the fucking moon, baby.
Yeah.
Let's go.
But I'm fired up for that, man.
It looks like a fun bunch of comedians.
It's just going to be like, not that I care, but it's going to be like 95% dudes
on that thing, right?
I would assume so.
I would assume so.
Yeah.
But that'll be interesting.
Just being on a boat with 2,000 guys.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm curious.
I'm very curious what the audience will be like.
I think we're just going to be like wrestling at the pool.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm a big cruise guy, so I'm pretty.
I'm excited to go with you, like an elite cruiser.
I know, but I'm kind of a, you know, I just like being on the Osh.
Although if there's like a sexiest man contest, we got to do that.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
I mean, I think all the comedians, I'm sure,
going to dive straight into that, too.
So you don't like going off boat when you hit, like, one of the...
Oh, no, I'll go off boat.
Like, we're going to Cozumel.
Yeah, that's sick island.
Maybe do Scuba.
Yeah, you got to.
And where is it, Tampa to Toulom?
Did I see that?
Tampa to Cozumel.
Oh, okay.
Just one style.
And then where do you fly back?
Oh, then the boat goes back to Tampa.
Yeah.
That's a quick cruise.
That's nice.
That's perfect.
Yeah, I think...
A one day leave, one day at sea, Cozumel, one day at sea back.
Fucking perfect.
Oh, wait, so we're flying home from Tampa.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
Cool.
That's going to be sick.
That's fun.
Yeah.
I'm sure some dudes will bring their girlfriends.
Those dudes are going to be on guard.
You better bring a sword or something, brother.
Yeah.
All the dudes, he's me, what's up?
What's up?
So who do you like the most?
Santino, JT, JT.O.
Adam Rayo.
Cool.
That would be funny if dudes went on the cruise to meet chicks.
They're like, bro, it was a total sausage fest.
Yeah, exactly.
I went on the workaholics cruise and it's just all dudes.
It's kind of like the most beautiful thing.
Like it's like it is kind of like a dude's wellness retreat.
Like you're going to be laughing, hanging out, seeing like super funny guys.
You guys are fucking hilarious.
I love Bobby Lee.
I love everyone on that whole roster.
It's going to be awesome.
Like it is going to be.
And there's no stress
and having to hook up with a chick.
Yeah.
You're just going to go to your,
your fucking cabin and jack off later at night.
That's what I've done on every cruise I've ever been on.
Oh,
just perfect with no pressure.
Big jack off time.
Yeah.
It's emotional bonding.
You know, like,
Lord of the Flies is like this awful story
about like if you get man away from society,
we just turn into like savages and turn on one another.
But there was a group of Tongan boys
who got shipwrecked on an island.
And they worked together like in total harmony.
and when they picked them up a couple years later, they were thriving.
And I feel like that's what the cruise ship's going to be.
I think that's exactly right.
It's better than fiction.
Like, we're just going to be like, like, when I'm talking about wrestling at the pool,
I mean that in the most positive, beautiful sense, like just men,
just in their spirit and energy without like real competition
because they're not trying to peacock for chicks, just like, just living together.
And it's like the guy that loses, another buff man comes up to me.
He's like, hey, man, here's what you did.
You got to counter to the move with that.
Pivot with this.
Coaching, shift your weight and then counter.
that's a beautiful thing.
I'm excited for the coaching on the cruise.
I think that's going to be really great.
Men's coaching is one of the best things that there is out there.
It's one of the best.
Usually it only exists on mainland in the form of adult karate.
And so it's nice that it's happening on the cruise.
You know, my fiancé said to me recently,
she said, you know, you need to learn how to fight.
Really?
Dude, you know what?
We talked about this on the Dolph London pod,
which Stokers, if you haven't listened to that,
It's a great episode.
Go back and rediscover it.
One of my favorites we've ever done.
I talked about maybe wanting to do Shoto Khan.
And then J.T. was like, bro, you can't wear a ghee.
I'm like, that's a good call.
And then even don't.
I just, I think there's, you should do like, you know what, though?
I feel bad because I have that same thought now being like, no, you can't do it.
Do whatever you want.
Find your way.
And I just like, it's an, in MMA, you don't see as many guys who do that.
It's more like Muay Thai and boxing and wrestling are kind of the base in jihits and jiherser,
like the bases.
But Dolph himself said kickboxing.
Is kickboxing nonsense?
No, kickboxing's legit.
But you know what you could do is you watch an old fight between a Grufis, I think,
who was a kickboxer at the time when he fought a Muay guy,
and he was kicking his ass.
But then the Muay Thai guy just started wailing his leg with leg kicks,
because there wasn't leg kicks in kickboxing.
And that's how he won the fight.
And then his brother afterwards was like, he's like a jersey guy.
He said, what was that?
Leg kicks?
That's for like girls.
That's how you went a fight.
But that's when Muayai became like the more popular.
stand-up fighting system
because they battle test them. They put them up
against each other. It's pretty badass.
And the leg kicks are so hard. That doesn't it hurt your
foot so bad?
Is it just hitting bone on bone?
You got to build up scar tissue.
I mean, look, I can't fight.
But I think
whatever you guys choose to do, it's beautiful.
I love if you guys get in there and start...
I think you guys would both be great at it. You're tallest shit.
You're super outplay.
Well, the thing is, I want to work with swords.
Oh, dude, we should do L.A. Sword play.
The place in Burbank, we should go.
Dude, that be...
Rokane said that's the best fighting system.
That'd be sick.
Yeah.
Dude, honestly, I kind of want to get good at kickboxing,
go back to the zoo, and beat all those people's asses.
That'd be fun.
Yeah.
I mean, you'd beat...
I think if they would have done, like, a good Muay Thai fighter versus a good sword fighter,
my money would be on the sword fighter.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I think if you'd take probably the best
Greco-Roman wrestler and put them up against a guy with, like, a gun.
I'll take the wrestler.
Depends the distance they start.
They're like, in this corner is Romeo Palhadris.
He's a wrestler, jiu-jitsu guy from San Paulo.
And in this corner is Sir Galahad.
He's six foot two of five, and he's got a broad sword.
Dude, it's funny.
Dude, I bet this is what they did in Rome.
They would take a warrior.
They'd be like, this wasn't a warrior that we abducted
from like a far region of Gaul.
and it's like a Scottish dude that's like an animal versus like a regular citizen.
Like this is a wimp that we got who like didn't listen to his fucking, you know,
on the Fatima or whatever the Roman plantation was.
He didn't listen to his lord.
So but we've given him the Roman sword.
Who will win?
Go.
And then people would eat bread and watch that.
And with the, with the foreign guy usually just destroy him.
Bro, I don't know.
I mean, I think it's.
Or would they rig the game against him?
It's a good question.
Depends who the ruler is.
And I guess if they hype up Rome and like the Roman sword element,
then maybe they'd want that to prevail.
Yeah.
But that would be interesting.
You watch that and they're like, you know,
this is a battle between, you know,
a normal Roman soldier and a great warrior from Gaul before the guy kills him.
The tiger comes and eats him.
Yeah.
They do they do that.
What happened?
They still do stuff like that in Russia.
Like, you'll just see stuff on social media where it'll be like,
six dwarfs first like a regular sized man that's a but he's like a good fighter yeah and like the dwarfs
are good fighters too but he'll be like karate kicking him out of the ring that's hilarious you're
like you know I'm glad we don't do this here but I'm glad it happens somewhere yeah uh oh man
dude I've been watching I've watched this probably like five times in the past week is just this section
I watched the movie, but just this section, free solo.
I've seen it, you know, I saw it when it came out, but dude, it's incredible.
I know I'm late to the party here, but.
Oh, had you not seen it?
No, I've seen it, but I just like, now I'm like obsessed with it.
I don't know what happened.
Yeah, because you were always more of a Donwall guy.
I was more of a Donwall guy.
At first I thought Honol was kind of a dude.
Sorry, I just keep hiccuping.
It was kind of a douche.
but now I'm like no he's not a douche
and it's just such an incredible
he's just like super hyper-focused
he's just so locked in
he's just an ultimate
he's a machine
yeah I wish I wish I could be a climber
it's just learning about the equipment
and all that stuff and ropes
and it's like a pain in the ass
yeah
you get a buddy who like rips out it though
and they'll be your like a spirit guy
yeah like can you belay me
a lot of
comedians like to do it.
Like Madison Hedgecock's like a hell of a climber.
Oh, yeah.
Is he still in a left?
Yeah, I'll see.
I think he still lives in the South Bay.
I'll see him on social media doing like V-6s.
Really?
Sevens.
Oh, yeah.
He's getting like sideways and, you know.
Dude, we did your birthday party years ago.
That JT.
Coordinated.
You threw the best party.
It was like protein and climbing.
It was the best party at all time.
I got only chicken and steak for the food.
That was hilarious.
That was so fun.
That was so fun.
Dude, I think climbing is a good way to meet chicks.
Yeah.
That's what people say.
That's what people say.
Chicks with tattoos and stuff.
Yeah.
Like an off-centered leg tattoo.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly, bro.
Oh, exactly.
On the tauton.
Like, on a sazi dude playing the fucking thing.
Like, everyone has that tattoo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She went to like brown and she's like, yeah.
I was like, I lived in a house with four other chicks.
We all like, you know, scissered, but I don't identify.
Yeah, exactly.
I did an element of that when I was in,
Switzerland learning about like, you know, predominant, like, most optimal social systems for
government. But I realized, you know, best thing to do is nurture your soul. So now I climb and
just fucking just. Yeah.
Fucking. Great chicks, by the way. I didn't mean that in a derogatory sense.
They're the best chicks, dude, besides our wives. Yeah. Yeah. Not mine. Oh, your stomach got you
fucked up right there? Yeah, I think I was laughing too hard. See, dude. That's what I'm saying.
That's why they had to do this on Zoom. That would have worried me, dude. No, it was
It was, I was, it was silly that I was trying to make this happen.
I was like, no, we can do this.
Let's get in person.
And you were like, dude, my wife's brain.
I was like, dude, if I got my life sick, I'd be like, holy fuck, dude.
Because she's had her, you know, morning sickness and shit.
Like, I would feel so bad.
I just kept thinking I was going to get better.
I was trying to be optimistic.
But it just kept every morning, I'd be like, chat, I can't do it.
Yeah.
I know that feeling.
It's the worst.
It just doesn't go away.
When we were doing the Netflix show
in the writer's room
was so funny
when he got the flu
bro
and JT looks at the show
and he's like
we gotta get you
how to get out of here
dude
it was the funniest thing
and dude
you guys always sat next
to each other
and we had like
wheelie chairs
and his fucking
wheeled all the way
around the corner
of the fucking
next with the next
and the next person
was the funniest
I was trying to get like
five feet away
yeah
yeah
then we'd call
the next day
we're like how you feel
and he's like
I'm good
yeah
I miss like a week
I think that was
early COVID. I think it was. It was right before COVID. It was December before COVID. I was
coughing nonstop. Oh, do you think you got COVID? I mean, I didn't lose my sense of smell or taste,
but I was coughing nonstop. That would kind of make sense because you didn't get it again for like
two years. Yeah. So it kind of tracks. I had all the symptoms. Did you ever get vaccinated? You don't have to
answer that if you don't want to. Yeah, I did.
Oh, we all had to for the show.
Oh, that was the thing with Joe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, go listen to the episode, Joe.
People loved it.
Oh, yeah.
Hilarious.
We had to record that episode twice.
People might not know this.
We had to record it twice because the first one had like sensitive information about production companies and TV stuff.
Oh, I forgot about that.
Yeah, so the second one was worse.
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We didn't have to do.
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Should we do these hot takes?
Fuck yeah. Yeah.
Strider, you want to kick us off?
Yeah, let's fucking go, baby.
Okay, let's see here. I've got a lot of fun ones here.
Let me see, what's my, what's a hot, hot take, dude?
This is a very hot take.
Blazers.
Better on women than men.
Ooh.
Oh.
I like that.
Okay.
Agreed.
Okay.
Yeah.
A woman in a lady suit.
Yeah.
And pardon the pervert that's about to present itself from within me.
No pants.
Oh, of course, no pants.
But the little bit of the, you know, I'm picturing her wearing like a blouse,
a little bit of, you know, a well-chested woman in a blazer.
Very nice.
Also, you know I like to do this when we do the hot takes.
conversely
skirts
a.k.a. kilts
better on men.
Whoa.
And you might say
dude what are you talking about
strider?
Skirts are the best.
Women have
cocktail dresses
sun dresses
arguably better than the skirt.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing
because your balls on accurate
and you're nailing it.
A dress looks better on a woman
because they got the hip.
Thank you.
The whole physique.
Yeah, you've got to get the women's hips and they're more fatty glutes in there.
But the skirt obscures that.
And so if you've got a skirt, what you're really highlighting is the quads.
Correct.
And the best quads all do respect are on the fellas.
Thank you.
It's good.
Thank you very much.
And the jacked calf.
I want to see the jacked calf.
Yes.
Yes.
So I think that's better.
And then for me, for my money, a dude and a blazer.
Um, vanilla.
Mm-hmm.
Unless you're a hockey coach.
Not ice, I haven't.
A hockey coach in a, in a tope blazer with slicked hair.
I'm in.
What's dope?
It's like green.
It's like my pants that I'm wearing now.
That's what I was thinking.
I never knew that.
It's a pant.
I used to work in Norseum.
Oh, wow.
I'm not just some guy.
Yeah.
Can I ask you a follow up on the blazer?
Yes.
Ideal hair length for the woman wearing the blazer.
laser and I have an opinion. Can I tell you? No longer than shoulder. Baby, that's where I'm at as well.
Right here. Yeah. Right here. That right there. Exactly right. And then I'm getting warning now.
Yeah, me too. I just got a little horny thinking about that, dude. I'm not going to lie.
Here's a cue. So what do you think has the best mix of... Look at my face. I'm horny.
Yeah. Holsomness and horniness. The sundress. Correct. Yeah. The sundress is the
premier outfit on a woman.
Hands down.
Yeah.
If I hear it in a song, I'm instantly taken to a place.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Like she looks pretty in a sun dress.
I'm like, okay.
Yep.
Yeah.
Sounds nice.
So that's my hot take, dude.
Blazers are for the ladies, not for the fellas.
Now, you know who I'm kind of picturing Blazers, that hair length?
This is such an obscure pick, but the chick from rock star, the movie with
Mark Wahlberg who works for the band.
Oh, fuck.
I know Jennifer Aniston's the girl on that.
The only person who will get this is my brother because I made him watch them.
You know who else would look good in it?
Kind of obscure, but like Joey Lauren Adams.
You know that actress?
I think she would look good in one.
Honestly, I bet you Bree Larson would look really good in one.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, Julia Roberts can't look bad in anything, but I think if you put her in one, great.
Jennifer Aniston?
of course Jennifer
Hamilton
Mm-hmm
I keep
Oh
Charlize their own
Oh yeah
I keep thinking of
Who she was in
She's in random movie
She's in like Harold and Kumar
And
And I don't know her name
But she looks good in the sundress
Can I tell you
She's blonde
It's almost one of those things
Where
Someone in a uniform is nice
Like a pilot
like you kind of get why women are into pilots or like even a few good men um
jane you think of like a lady in the uniform is it's nice yeah even though that's not technically
a blazer but it's just it's a good it's dignified check though it's a hint it's a hint of yeah
you're thinking malin acriman yeah malin acriman oh yeah i like malinacan acumen yeah she's like
from Australia. Oh, she is?
Nice.
From the Watchman and
she was in a recent Netflix series
of Who Done it. Dude, my wife and I watched
his and hers on Netflix.
Great. Dude, it was good. I liked it. It's awesome.
Dude, it gets very dark, but it was good.
The twists and shit.
Oh, come on. Now, you're gonna
say that with no evidence? Come on.
You kind of get annoyed. Come on, Boston.
You kind of want, what's that actor's
name? Robert Barrenthall.
He was great. You want Berndtall to be
guilty. You're like, you're an idiot at this point.
Yeah. Oh, he's so stupid in it, but he plays
it so, he brings so much
like body and personality to it.
It's so on point. It's perfect.
How fucking evil are those chicks
in it though? Oh, dude.
My dank-ass wife and I, when we were watching, we're like,
that's almost too evil.
It's too much. They're like human traffickers.
They're like, what the fuck's going on?
And then to go sleep with the,
let's just spoil it.
To go sleep with the
the husband of the girl that you like
set up an essay on. I'm like, that seems a little bit
it's all, it's a little too gnarly. You're the devil? Yeah. It's the most evil thing
I've ever experienced like watching something. So like that's, I mean, it's like it's very dark.
Yeah. But it had to go that way to be surprising. The twist at the end, I don't think, I don't think
anyone could have predicted that. No, no, no. No, that's a little hard to believe, honestly. Yeah.
And she was able to do all that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. But I like, but I like,
I like, but now I'm, now I'm picking nits because I really much, I like that show a lot.
I had a good time the whole time.
Same here.
Yeah.
And dude, is it so nice when you got a show with your wife?
You're going to say that?
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He'd like, derail the one smart lady detective.
He'd be like, fucking.
I mean, Pablo Schreiber, too.
I thought they were well, because Berthal's so masculine.
You're like, he's going to be more macho than him.
I thought Pablo was up to the channel.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I agree.
That was good.
And you knew he was going to have some sort of arc because you're like,
Yeah, it's kind of too big of casting.
So you can kind of call it with the casting.
You're like, yeah, you've been in some movies, bro.
Like something's going to happen with you here.
So I was always like, this.
Yeah.
Yeah, bro.
Makes me terrified to have kids.
Hey, do you remember, I knew you were,
my wife confirmed this.
I knew Strider had something big going on in his life
because I could see it in his shoulders
when he went to get his second beer when we saw anaconda.
He's so funny.
You know me so well.
me so well yeah I was like dealing with wow I go I went home and I go honey
Shiter something's going on in his life something big I could do he just there's
something going on I saw him in his neck and his shoulders and then like a week later
because you know what it was the best thing possible yes I was so I was like this is
amazing yeah but it was funny I was like I was like I right when I found I was like I
know what I know but we were at one of those points where like two day we were two days
away from like results of genetic testing and like you'll go through this when
you have a kid anyone you go through these
hoops of having a kid and it's important information to have but it's like so tough it's like now we test if
your kid is like has an eyeball and if your kid's gonna fucking you know be a percentage of like having
this thing go on yeah you know and you're like oh my gosh it's terrifying yeah we had overlapping
genetic abnormality so there was like yeah that's scary there was a one and four chance one of our
kids would have something so like 40% or something overall and like it was like yeah bro we we we did
I know what you're talking about we had the same thing man
And it's fucking scary.
It's so scary.
Yeah.
All right.
Who's up next with the next hot eat?
Do you want to go next?
Yeah, I'll go next.
I got Hokas from Chad.
Here's my hot take on Hokas.
They're not better for your knees.
People only wear them to be tall.
Whoa.
That's huge.
Dude, fuck.
Not expecting that take.
I mean, I wear them their
fine on my knees but I don't know I like that extra edge is that what people say if people say
they wear them because the softness of the shoe is better for the knee that's what they say
that's that's the selling point because if you said it was just to give you height you would be
you know you might be kicked out of town who knows what would happen to you yeah because they
don't need that much foam to achieve that much softness I mean I'm not an orthopedias
I would almost imagine less shoe is probably better for your knees and hips.
Yeah, like we're trying to build strength or like just create comfort for someone who has an issue already.
Yeah.
That's a good question.
You know?
Yeah.
So is more patting actually hurting you because it's getting your body used to not working.
Mm-hmm.
And I would say no matter the height of the male, they're always going to want more inches.
Yeah.
They always going to want more.
They almost think of brand it like, Hoka, we'll get you on that roller.
coaster.
That's very good.
That's very good.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And when I was in high school, I was tiny.
I think you meant for adults, too.
Like a 45-year-old guy's like, yeah, I want to go.
No, that is what I meant.
I want to get on the spin rider.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Let me on, man.
I haven't been able to ride this my whole life.
Hey, dude, you should wear some hokas.
It's like 48 inches.
I changed my life.
I got it.
I got on the teacups, finally.
That's a phone.
That's a good take.
Dude, and I'm actually worried, I think they keep expanding the, the, how big they're making the heel.
I think by the time we're in like our 60s, there's going to be like five inch heels.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
Men are going to be a stilettos.
Unless the government comes in and just regulates such shit.
That's true, because RFK might come in and be like, look, this is fucking going to hurt, you know, your forward momentum.
It's going to really, for plyometrics.
We've been looking at the shoe designs.
It's gotten to a point now where the composites are destroying young men's knees that have never been worse.
And so it's up to us to put a stop to it and bring us back to normal shoes.
That's a good fucking RFK, it is.
That's a good RFK, bro.
Senator, you yourself funded a study that since 2007.
it.
Dude,
it's got to be a prank on society.
Like,
I don't know,
man.
Are billionaire just laughing
that this is the head of health
the dude that talks like this?
Like,
like,
it's unbelievable,
dude.
But then the person before him
was like a fat lady
with like blue hair.
So it's like,
oh man,
fuck.
Yeah.
Can't we just get like a fucking,
can't we just get a fucking,
former Olympian to do it?
Like,
like,
just get Michael Phelps or Dolphrine.
London like
give him the position
Ryan Locked he needs a job
yeah
Michael
Michael Jordan
somebody
dude that's
any 13th
dude off the bench
for any division
to basketball teams
should be doing that
job you know it would be funny
they're like
our new head of health
Larry Bird
yeah
oh my dad love
Larry legend
throw his back farming dude
yeah
yeah
Um, JT sent me
BBLs.
What's my hot take on the BBL?
I'm gonna say it.
Yeah.
So the BBL, you know,
you're taking fat from other parts of your body
and you're putting in your ass, right?
But here's the thing.
When you don't have healthy, when you're just stuffing fat in there,
the tissue, the fat dies.
You can't, you can't just stuff shit in there.
It's just, it's so they literally smell like trash.
Whoa.
BBLs are stinky.
Really?
I don't know for sure, but that's the reputation.
Yeah, here's my hot take.
BBL stink.
BBL stink not because of the function of the ass.
It's the whole thing you got going on.
It's what you're putting in there.
And it's also limited function.
Ladies can't, you know, it's tough to, you know, like bodybuilders,
they can't wipe their ass.
Same with the BBL.
You know, it's like trying, it's like trying to wipe the Grand Canyon.
You can't get it at all.
No.
It doesn't pass the smell test.
Yeah.
Dude, when I went to a community college in New York City,
some of the chicks in my class were telling me one time that,
not them, but other girls were doing pumping parties where they'd all get together
and dude would come over with like Home Depot supplies.
Oh, yeah, man.
Pump their asses full of like stuff.
Yeah.
One of the girls ended up doing like a report about it and like our speech.
It was crazy.
I've heard of that.
I've heard of that.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, see, a big BB, like, how are you going to wipe that?
It's true.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, does it mess up wiping too?
Yeah.
Look, I mean, Jake has something pulled up out.
I'm not sure if you can see it.
But it's a huge ass.
Gracie Bond.
Yeah, Gracie Bond.
Yeah, Gracie Bond.
Fuck, man.
I mean, she needs a face.
She needs a fire hose bidet.
Oh my God.
Yeah, you can't wipe that.
You know what, though?
I am curious.
It would be fun to just go.
Yeah.
Diving.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't you just want to bury your face in there and just see what's up?
Yeah.
But then if it stunk.
Yeah.
Like not like normal butt stink, but like necrotizing fat.
Yeah.
Yeah, necrosis.
Yeah, it's literally like, like, it's like putting a dumpster on your, on your body.
It's only good for being online.
That's the thing.
It's an online thing.
It's a weird person.
Yes, yes.
It's not natural.
It's only something that is, it's meant for the screen.
We should do something where if like we do a bet between the three of us and whoever loses has to get the BBL.
Yeah.
Just like Jake's hero, Drake.
Yeah, bro, should get BBLs.
And he's, St. Drake has one, really?
Oh, yeah.
And here's another hot take.
Cream Jeans just inspired me.
He said we can do BBLs but not fix men's small dongs.
Here's my other hot take.
If women get to do BBLs, men get to enlarge their dongs.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I don't want to hear anything about it.
You know, I'm taking my calf and putting it in my dick.
And there should be some sort of yoga pant that can highlight
my stiffy.
Men should be allowed to walk around
in an athlete,
a leisure with a full
stiffy. And that should be socially
acceptable. And I'll, I'll do you
one more player. You know, Skims
has the fake nipple.
Men should have
yoga shorts
that have just a
huge fake bulge.
And not just like, kind of like you're wearing
a cup, I'm talking about the full outline
like the balls, the shaft, and the bell end.
Yes.
And there's an option if you want to be uncircumcised.
You don't want to, you know.
It's fine.
Yeah.
Pick and choose.
Whatever it will suit you.
I love that.
Dudes, you guys really got my brain cook in there.
On when did it become inappropriate to have a boner in public?
Uh-huh.
And it seems like it wasn't until the Victorian.
era in the 19th century.
Wow.
When polite society was like, hey, you can't just be stiff in front of everybody.
Really?
Yeah.
It's so wrong.
It's not that long ago.
Wow.
No, yeah, yeah.
Why is that?
You would think there's progress, you know?
You'd think we'd progress.
Yeah.
We got to go back to that.
So in like the Renaissance, you'd see like Da Vinci just with a boner?
Shouldn't it be celebrated?
Oh, hey, guys.
I have a boner right now.
I didn't even do anything.
Yeah.
It seems like there was some shifting beliefs around it then
because the church was getting pretty strong.
Like Thomas Aquinas was saying sexual desire was shameful,
but they also had a lot of public bathing and stuff like that.
So there was still so much nudity that you were going to see it
and no one was like thinking twice about it.
You're going to get a boner.
If you're young and you're bathing in public and you look over
and there's this fucking BBL, you're going to get a bonner.
Yeah.
There's no question about it.
may imagine
no i'm gonna say
no i'm excited to hear this
no you don't want to hear it
no we do brother come on
imagine bush in the dark ages
yeah
no wonder they had yeah yeah yeah
massive
huge like bigger like probably like popped out
yeah what you like
and it was amazing
it was such a sight to behold
why do you think
Gothic architecture exists.
Let me build these structures
with these stained glass windows
to emulate heaven coming down
so when you enter this realm,
you are in touch with God.
This architecture is meant to invoke
stepping into the heavens
and the power of the Almighty.
They were competing
with going to the tavern
paying a woman
a pince or two
and seeing Bush.
Oh yeah. It's true.
That's, you know, man tried to make God's cathedral when really it was there the whole time.
God already made it from Adam's rib.
And on the eighth day, he created bush.
Mm-hmm.
Correct.
Lissareen, baby.
Yahweh, bro.
It was a burning bush.
Oh, yeah.
Think about that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, God is a burning bush.
Mm-hmm.
Why is he burning, though?
I don't know.
Fucking sick.
Pyrotechnics are always legit.
I mean, I'm not going to not use pyrotechnics.
Yeah, that's true.
Dude, what is?
This fire is pretty safe.
Fire's tight, dude.
In an ancient world, fire is kind of tough to come by.
I don't know if this is sacrilege, but what if, like, someone was like, dude, I literally
I just spoke to God.
And they're like, where, where did you speak to him?
I'm like, dude, like in this chick's bush.
Yeah.
Probably depends on the guy, but I'd be curious.
I'd want to hear what comes next for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
If it was like a really like...
Sounds like the priest I went to junior highway.
I'm talking like a wholesome guy, you know, like
you know, if it was Nate Bargatti.
Yeah.
I'm going to need him to sleep on it.
I mean, hey, hey, go to sleep tonight and let me tell.
Just write it down for me.
Tell me in the morning.
I wonder if he'd feel compelled to lie, you know?
Yeah.
Like, where'd you see?
He'd be like, there's a stop sign.
Like, you saw it in a stop sign.
He's like, it doesn't matter.
It matters when he said.
I'm like, why he'd be weird?
He's like, I saw it in a bush.
I'm like a bush.
Like a chick's bush.
I was going down on this seventh that I met at a bar
after we watched the Packers game.
And I saw a gone in her bush.
His whole thing is just to slowly get dudes on board
with this story.
All right, all right, all right.
After that, there was like two for one special on beer.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, you're just down there.
You're just, you know, going to town.
There's all, oh, whoa.
And then he's like, strider,
I need you to free my people.
Let my people go.
Let my people go.
I would do it, dude.
Yeah, and it's all chicks with bushes.
That's who needs to be saved.
Yeah.
Or freed, rather.
Good call.
I'd watch that movie.
Me too.
What do you think of the title would be, The Bush?
Yeah, the Lord of Bushwick.
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
Or maybe it'd be her name.
Her name would be like,
it'd be Peggy Bush.
Peggy Bush or Allison.
Allison's a pretty name.
I like that name, yeah.
Yeah.
All right,
Sean, you're up.
All right.
You guys sent me,
I forget who sent me poker.
I think I did.
JT.
sent me poker.
Poker is only good in movies.
That is a hot take.
Real life poker.
You invite me to poker night?
No one's having fun.
One or two dudes are having fun.
everyone else is getting ripped off.
It's a bad time.
In movies, you have Maverick.
Fun. Casino Real.
Sexy.
You know, martini stirred, not chicken.
Rounders, I sneakies in you,
fun, cool, underground.
In real life,
it's just divorced dudes hanging out.
In fact, the better,
the more divorces you've had,
the better you are at poker.
But you know what's interesting
is you love gambling and you like table games.
I do.
I enjoy them,
but I'm not good at that.
And poker's a little bit different
because it's about taking money from someone else's pocket
and putting it in your pocket.
Table games...
Is that what buzz you about it?
Maybe.
I just think it's like, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe just the poker stars aren't rock and roll enough for me.
it's like a dude with indigestion is the best
or like a teenager with like ADHD and bleached hair
and they're like the best at it.
It's not relatable.
I hear you on that.
But I like it in a Western.
When we started playing poker tournaments in high school,
Greg Raymer had just won the World Series of poker.
Who's that?
How many times has he been divorced?
No, because I think you'll remember when he's CMJ.
Can you pull up a photo of Greg Raymer?
Does he wear the shades?
Yeah, him and Chris Money.
They both wear the shades.
Chris Moneymaker.
Yeah, I know that.
That's kind of cool.
And Raymerhead was a dinosaur guy.
He had like dinosaurs on his, on the table with him.
But he's not like a badass looking guy.
It's what I'm saying.
That's James Bond.
There's James Bond, dude.
I like this guy.
Can you imagine playing against him?
He's a genius.
He's like, oh yeah, five's and nines.
Like, I'm holding fives and nines.
No one's going to guess that.
Are you seeing, are you looking at Greg Raymer?
Yeah.
I'm looking at him, yeah.
Do you see his glasses?
Yeah, they're amazing.
That's like cheating, though.
Fuck that.
Did you have fun at Ferraro's tournament?
No.
The worst experience ever.
Yeah, I hated that.
Pav was there.
Pav was there, dude.
It was an old nerd.
Rod was there.
You did well.
Yeah, you dominated.
Rod was there.
It was the most uncool guys.
I was like, these are...
Well, they're going to listen to them, dude.
Let's just eat pizza.
Yeah.
I don't know.
my take. My take, I guess
to make it concise
and salient in my log line of my
take is
poker,
yeah, poker in real life
sucks.
And the only way you're good at it is just if you've been
divorced multiple times.
Because you know
what you're
anying up with.
You've got real life stakes.
You know, that's your, that's your
estranged kids.
Dude, yeah.
To go all in when you don't have the cards,
only someone who's lost real big and real life
is willing to do that move.
Correct.
It's a good take.
Poker in the Wild West.
But in movies, very sick.
We did our short film in high school about poker.
Remember JT with Pink Floyd?
I wasn't in your guys' group,
but you guys did an amazing job on the editing.
No, but JT came in, he was a dominating filmmaker.
He came, he's like, he just said, we have to direct it.
You directed like the main scene.
Also, I shaved my head halfway through the film, so my character.
Oh, really?
Unexplicably.
Had long hair in the beginning and then nowhere at the end of the movie.
That wasn't part of the movie?
You just shaved it for the number.
It did in real life, and it was just scheduling.
Just the continuity.
And the teacher was like, okay.
We'll overlook that.
That's hilarious.
It's just halfway throughout the movie.
You guys had some great montages.
Yeah, the montage was sick.
That's really fun.
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You've been watching movies?
Do you mean the lady we watched,
I've been watching The Wire a lot, but me and the lady watched
Startup, this British prison movie.
One of my favorite movies ever.
It was sick, too, because she loved it.
So that fired me up.
I was like, dude, she gets it.
But yeah, I would recommend that to all the Stoker's startup.
I think it's an impossible movie to dislike.
It's so badass.
It's so well
like written and just
like there's no fat on it and it's just
it'll shoot you out of a can. Have you seen it?
I don't think so. When did it come out?
Maybe like 2017 or something like that.
What's it called? Startup.
Start up. Oh, start up. Okay.
Yeah, I think you'll love it, dude. It's so sick.
Oh, 2013. Damn.
I don't like being off that.
But it's really cool.
And acting sick and it's
it's really, really good.
It's British?
Yeah.
Yeah, the consensus on Rout and Tomatoes is funny because it's like puts itself up there with the best British prison movies.
I'm like, is that like a huge subset of movies?
But then I was thinking about it, I was like, yeah, there is like in the name of the father.
That one's a pretty good British prison movie.
I'm sure Michael Keynes got one.
But yeah, I watched that and then just been watching The Wire.
But, dude, mostly just sleeping, bro.
It's been awful.
Really?
This is like the most fun I've had in different.
I've just been dying to like go do stuff.
Yeah, it sounds brutal.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, being sick sucks.
Just sipping pediolite.
And didn't eat for two days, so hopefully I cut some fat.
But didn't lose any muscle.
What have you been up to?
Do you watch anything good?
Oh, you watched Free Solo.
I've been watching Free Solo.
I watched No Time to Die.
I think the last James Bond.
He isn't bone enough in that one.
No.
No.
Him and,
what's the main actress's name?
She's great from Knives Out.
Anadamus?
Anadamus.
Oh, yeah.
They look at each other and like, excellent.
Yeah, they have like a platonic professional relationship.
Yeah.
You were excellent.
So are you.
I'm like, no.
In a James Bond movie.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, no, he's got a boner.
Yeah, you guys need to fuck.
Yeah.
I was in the theater with my brother and I got mad.
I go, I turn him, I was like, are they not going to fuck?
Yeah.
I was like, relax.
And I was like, no, dude.
I don't fucking come to James Bond movies to watch him fucking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would be courteous and respectful.
Yeah, bro.
I bet he was pissed when he read that.
Yeah.
Is Gandalf and Lord of the Rings seem to be like,
I don't know if I should use a spell right now?
Yeah.
I don't know.
What kind of message does that sign if I'm always using spells?
Yeah.
When sometimes I don't need to.
Exactly.
I don't know. Gandalf.
Dan O'Krague's like, so who are we casting in this one?
Anna Day Armis?
I don't see.
the scene where I bone her. Yeah, what is
what's going on? Oh, we're taking a new direction
with this one. Dude, you want to know what's funny?
Yeah, you become friends with her husband. You guys golf
and stuff. Dude, one of the
times I got one of the most
sideways looks
from my wife was
before Anna to Armis was famous,
my wife used to go to the same
day spa as her at the Korean spa
where all the ladies are naked together
and my wife was like, oh yeah, Anna-Darmers,
I used to see her at the K-ball all the time.
And I like, without checking my brain, I was like,
whoa she hot to my wife and she was like what the fuck yeah I was like so what do you want for
dinner yeah you got a pivot yeah exactly so I was thinking we did we did we did we did we did
Mexican the other night so I'm thinking we just get a pizza like she's too mellow tonight what's your
favorite meal let's get your favorite meal tonight let's do that but but dude I just try you got
to find out no I've been trying to find out yeah every time dude every time she's the happy I
I give her a back massage and a foot massage,
and the whole time I'm like,
what's what's going on down there?
How's your massage technique?
Mine?
So the back, I like to use as far spread out
as my hand as I can
and get as many different points as I can.
Foot, thumbs, kneading on the foot.
Wow.
Foot kneading back, surface area.
It's nice.
Yeah.
All right, my heart's,
take on deep voices is this.
If you have a deep voice, you're not a good fighter.
Deep voice is an evolutionary mask for not being tough.
It's like a small animal that can yell loudly or that can like, you know, fan out.
It's just a complete perception trick.
Conversely, if you have a high-pitched voice, you're probably a straight freaking killer.
Yeah.
Tyson, case and point.
A lot of UFC guys.
Like Daniel Kornay just sounds like a sweet, upbeat guy.
Absolute monster when he gets into cage, dude.
Mallor.
Mike Tyson, the ultimate.
You see it in football too sometimes.
Like just a big behemoth.
And then he gets on the mic and he said,
we had a really good game out there.
And you're like, oh, nice, dude.
And then, yeah, you hear, you're,
great radio voice and then you see the guy and you're like oh you're like a regular looking joe filope
you're like harry sheer all-time great exactly yeah so funny yeah i like this take bro i like this
tick it's a um yeah it's an innate device from nature defense mechanism akin to a chameleon
be able to blend in or one of those like dinosaurs that goes like shoots the thing out and
and wards off the enemy,
hoping that you will seek to, you know,
live and fight another day.
But yeah, if actually tested in combat,
a dude with a deep voice will get fucked on.
Yeah, think about it, dude.
If you hear a guy be like,
y'all will kill you.
It honestly doesn't throw me out.
I kind of expect it.
But if I hear a guy be like,
I'm going to end you,
I'm scared.
Mm-hmm.
It's kind of why clowns are scary.
Well, and then the guy with the deep voice, if he's around the corner, he's like,
eh, if you come over here and you're dead, the person doesn't come over.
So that person never learns how to fight.
But the high-pitched guy's like, if you come over here, I'm going to kill you.
That guy's got to learn how to fight.
His bloodline has to learn how to fight because they're always coming around the bed.
Yeah, yeah.
That's just science, bro.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, but I believe it.
That's huge.
Chad, you're up, dog.
All right.
Strader sent me crate.
crate
I just send you guys
random shit
but here's my hot take from this
crate
Donkey Kong
didn't live up to its potential
whoa
Donkey Kong
is one of the most underrated
and I guess I was thinking
Donkey Kong is barrels
I'm realizing that now
he wasn't throwing crates
but you're cooking
I love this.
Donkey Kong is one of the most underrated video game franchises out there.
Donkey Kong could have been Mario.
I was going to say, is Donkey Kong the video game better than Super Mario?
Yes.
He has sold himself short, though, because he was in Mario Kart.
He kind of sold out to the Mario franchise.
Exactly.
He got usurped.
Exactly.
Mario was a little bit more sneaky.
and knew how to play the game
Donkey Kong
you know
he had mind carts
he had bananas
I think
I think his brand
felt boxed in by the guerrillness
and he didn't venture into
you know
other things
Donkey Kong in space
Donkey Kong basketball
Donkey Kong tennis
it was all taken over by Mario
yeah
That's a great tick. It's almost like he wasn't like relatable enough. Like we, Mario, like, oh, he's trying to get the princess. He's probably in love with her. Yeah. She's a little out of his league. That's really sweet. With Donkey Kong, you're like, what does this guy even like? Yeah, but I think that's the thing is like Donkey Kong. He's technically our dad. Right? Yeah, yeah. Because we evolve from. Yeah. Donkeys. Oh, wait. We evolved from Kongs. We evolved from apes, right?
And so he could be like, look, I have the same instincts, the same fears, the same desires as you.
You know, I want to bang this, you know, Miss Kong.
Yeah.
I want to, you know, I want to have the best mind card out there.
I want to be able to provide so many bananas for my family.
That's my take.
I love it.
I'm almost thinking Donkey Kong had like a Kevin Durant kind of career.
Yeah.
Like should have been the lead dog on a bunch of championship teams, but just kind of got like, you know, filtered into someone else's star system.
Yeah. And you know what? I think this plays into your last hot take. Maybe his dong was too big. He didn't want it.
Yeah. Mario had a little one. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Mario's got the fattest cock in that whole family.
Oh, big pudgy fat. Yeah. Like bulbous, like parts of it are just sticking out. Like they got Mario.
marbles under the skin.
It's just a vein.
You don't even see the cock.
It's just a vein.
It's purple.
Yeah.
And Luigi, also small, skinny dick.
Oh, yeah.
Mario's just short fat.
Short fat cock.
Mm-hmm.
And Luigi, Luigi, Luigi, even has it tougher because his has no girth.
Yeah.
But Mario is the only one in the Epstein files.
Mario has definitely been named.
He was all over that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's all...
He loves pizza.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Mario...
Pretty disturbing stuff, Mario's emails.
Hey, Jeffrey, is Samia.
Peaches in the bunch of land.
I want to come see you on your island.
Dude, I was thinking of your joke about some guy was on the island,
because he just wanted to go banana boating.
He's like, fuck, man.
I didn't know.
I just wanted a banana boat.
You know, I just saw a clip that
Oh, he said,
oh, he's funny did a similar joke.
Oh, really?
Frank says he goes for the snorkeling.
But yeah, same idea where,
yeah.
Just as someone who likes to vacation,
I was like, oh, man,
I mentioned there's some guys
who just, like us,
like guys who just like to have fun
and would be like,
what?
You want to take me to your island?
Hell yeah, man.
You wouldn't do that stuff with us
because you know we just wouldn't want to do that.
Yeah.
And then we get put in this big download of files.
And you're like, oh, shit.
And there was like probably an off weekend at the island where it's like, look,
we're not human trafficking this weekend.
Like this weekend we're like just enjoying the weather.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to do that.
We're going to zip line this weekend.
Dude, do you use it on the zip line at Epstein's Island?
Yeah.
Yeah, if you're a smart criminal, like every once in a while,
you're going to invite an official plus some chill bros to be like,
this is what we do here.
That temple was already here.
Don't worry about that.
I don't know. That's the ancient culture that Columbus destroyed, but even though it was like made in the 60s.
But yeah, yeah, you can't be using it for the same purposes every weekend.
Yeah, because even like my parents party, but then they had friends who would come on trips to this.
You didn't party and then you just wouldn't party on those trips.
Yeah.
Because you're like, well, they don't do it on purpose.
You know, like recover.
Yeah, you want to break.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They weren't doing stuff like that, but the idea is the same.
Yeah.
Correct.
All right.
Strider, you're up.
All right, dude,
speaking of this,
this lends itself to my next hot take.
Chad, you sent me Disneyland.
Yeah.
You're very fond of Disneyland.
Walt Disney,
dollars adjusted,
would have been a billionaire in today's dollars.
He, I think, is the last billionaire
who will make a theme park for children.
I think today's billionaires,
if they were to have made a theme park,
theme park for children it would be utter disasters you imagine you imagine
you imagine Bezos be like yeah we take a drone and we just drop you here or
Elon he'd be pretty cool it's cool see because it's electric car it takes you
take you to it's pretty neat you see because because nobody nobody it's
completely funded by the government you see everything we're doing it the jobs
that we've taken we put people are now
working in the park so you see it's perfectly sustained it was optimal Trump would just be I don't
even know I don't even know what Trump's would be yeah it'd be the best and you'd get there and it'd be a
pretty rough time yeah the billionaires of today have lost their whimsy there's no more whimsy
I'd also be super suspicious if a billionaire started like a theme park for kids I'd be like
what the hell yeah I'd be like we gotta go get them on pitch forks what the it's kind
the oddest thing of all time.
It is.
Yeah.
I guess Walt, it's a little bit of a tough comparison because like he came up in that.
Yeah, he made his bones doing that.
Yeah.
It's a weird.
It's a weird.
That's his essence.
But it might not be as weird if you start there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's his essence.
So it's tough take.
But still weird.
Still odd.
I mean, the fact that he did the Mickey voice,
Boel, Walt Disney did that.
Like, imagine him like a guy smoking Sigs and eating a fucking prime rib for lunch.
Yeah.
It was like,
after lunch, I got to go do this voice.
he's like to his wife he's like listen to this
she's like kind of a boner killer
why are you doing that the kids love it yeah kind of a boner killer
well well this voice put this roof above your head
yeah do you like these fucking lights on at night do you like these lights
yeah that voice made these lights turn on so shut up yeah he mostly got his ass
kicked growing up yeah yeah yeah if you had a buddy who's
trying to do like cartoon voices and was talking about building a like a fun gymnasium for kids i'd be like
yeah yeah bro you could be the most it depends on the person like if chat honestly if you had those
ideas i'd be like i think i'd actually be pretty supportive i'd be like because i i would trust you weren't
oh thanks another hot take is uh yeah that's a great college at you just nailed that the fucking nail
nail on the head because how hard is it to pitch something nice for kids nowadays yeah the kids can come and
out and just be themselves and like there'll be some supervision with people I know it's like
no you can get the fuck out of here I don't trust you yeah when we when we first got wrapped I'd be like
what do you guys want to make I'm like I'd love to do a talk show and kids and everyone always gave me
a kind of weird eyeball then milaney did that malaney literally did the exact thing yeah it's like
sesame street what the what the what mr. Rogers what are mr. Rogers what are we talking about
Rogers, I know.
But you've got to be a real clean spirit to do it.
Yeah.
And I think people are still suspicious to those guys.
Also, when you pitched it, JT, didn't you like pitch it in between vaporips?
You were like, I don't know.
I think I might fucking like talk show with kids or something like that, you know.
And they're like, yeah, I probably would buttress.
I'd be like, maybe that I'd be like, yeah, I was like addicted to Adderall.
I had like a black camp porn problem.
And then like five minutes later, they're like, what do you want to do in like a talk show?
Yeah.
They're like, yeah, I don't know.
Did you, they say email.
I want to do a talk show with kids, just public?
And you're like, look, it's not how it looks.
I just, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just find it so profound when a kid has a profound take.
You know what I mean?
Like when a kid says something smart, it feels so like universally true that it just goes
deeper.
And I was like, I'd be cool to just make those moments happen.
But, you know, I actually wouldn't want to do it now.
probably because I have kids now so I'm like I get enough of that juice
is there a billionaire that you guys know of that could make a sick theme park
oh good question
Richard Branson would seem like you would do a good job right
yeah and he does virgin he does the virgin cruise ships are those good cruises
I from what I've heard I trust his park
but I feel like his park I don't know he he'd make a park about like
his theme park would be about like getting pussy
that's what I mean it's not for the kids
yeah it's not for the kids yeah yeah that's true
it's not for the kids um
who oh mr beast
oh yeah mr beast could do it
yeah but how do we trust him
he doesn't have the warmth
of Walt he'd like challenge the kids
he might be doing it
isn't he doing one you know you know
oh you know who is
Nate Bargatsy
is really is Naiparwak
Gotts he really making a theme park for kids?
I think.
Oh.
He's going to be Walt Disney?
I don't know.
He's going to be for Disney.
Let me see.
Yeah, they're all for kids.
Who's the most wholesome entertainer out there right now?
He's up there.
Wholesome.
Not the rock.
He tries.
No.
He's someone I just,
but he's inaccessible.
Yeah, it's Nate Land.
It's like a product.
That's crazy, dude.
He's just going to have like a huge swath of land with his name on it that people go like
enjoy.
is it where is it in in Tennessee yeah
you know the most wholesome ones are probably
female performers like Leanne Morgan
yeah to be a lady that does it JT great call it should be like a lady
like Leanne Morgan or who else is like kind of
there's a reason babysitters are like the girl that lives across the street
not the dude it's just how it is
dude comes over hangs out with the babysitter
All right, who's up?
Who just went?
I did.
J.T.
I'm up.
All right.
For my last one,
Chad sent me Taylor Swift.
Here's my hot take on Taylor Swift.
For my money,
she is the most singular entertainer of the 21st century.
She has been relevant for 25 years.
she's had an incredible evolution.
She has a remarkable catalog of music
and her ability to direct
her own career
and with it, an entire nation of people
is second to none,
but she will not be remembered.
Whoa.
I think her glory is now, and it is peak,
but I think a thousand years from now,
more people will remember real housewives of Beverly Hills than remember Taylor Swift.
Wow.
Are you serious?
Yes.
I think there is something, um, shit.
Very much like of the moment with Taylor Swift and with real housewives,
I think there is something that is transcendent in a Shakespeare way.
Yeah, but will real housewives be a chapter in reality television?
Will it be reality television?
That is, I agree with that.
I think reality television will surpass.
If it comes down to like, if history remains in this kind of like great man or woman kind of framing, I think it'll be like Andy Cohen.
Wow.
I wonder, I wonder, and maybe it might just be because I just don't listen to a lot of Taylor Swift music.
But is her, like, you still.
hear Billy Jean all the time, right? Yeah. Are we going to, I don't know, I don't know if you hear
Taylor Swift songs all the time. Am I wrong? I would say her top hits are not as ubiquitous as
other, like, icons. Yeah. Like, I, um, but oddly, I don't think you hear that many Beatles songs
either, like with the regularity that you might hear, like Michael Jackson or a, even like
a Nirvana or something like that.
Like, I think you actually hear their hits more.
Yeah.
But I think for a couple of reasons, Taylor Swift will just not survive the test of time.
But that's not to take away from how great she is.
I think she's phenomenal.
She is, like, 1989 for me and, like, folklore are like seminal albums.
I listen to her music all the time, and I pay a ton of attention to.
I think she's amazing.
But I don't think 500 years from now, it'll be in the history books.
I think you're scared.
You've got to look at 50 years from now.
Because I think 500 years from now, none of it will be there.
I think that it's too far.
Because you go Beatles, 50 years ago.
More, right?
And, of course, everyone knows the name, the Beatles.
I would be interested to have a person in their 20s on right now
and challenge them to name.
And obviously there's a cool kid who knows them, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So you have like 10 kids on or whatever.
And if they can name the Beatles songs or name the tailors,
like so 50 years from now will a 20-year-old be able to name 10 Taylor songs?
Yeah, I don't know.
Who will be?
I think the Beatles are 60 years now.
Like I think that's what I mean.
It's like, I'm just saying 50 is a number, but I know it's a little more.
But like, who will be the, who will be the band, who will be the musician from right now who's like the biggest moment?
And by right now, I mean contemporary.
Yeah.
Millennium forward, 21st century.
That at the turn of the century is going to be sick.
No one from the 20s was big in the 90s.
That was gone.
I have like three parts of that.
I somewhat disagree.
One, I think some people will be remembered, right?
Because, like, we remember Shakespeare.
Remember there's Dizzy Jelepsie.
Volunteer.
We remember.
I guess if we're speaking specific to music, we remember Mozart.
Remember Beethoven.
That's true.
Some people make it through.
Yes.
And are representative of that time.
And I think, oddly, I heard Derek Thompson do a podcast on this,
we're like one of the only periods of time where, like, our parents didn't listen to their parents' music.
But a lot of our defining bands, like, your favorite bands are probably your parents' favorite bands.
Yeah, I like the classics.
Yeah.
You're right. Classic music, or classic rock, yeah.
And they use that as a way to point to like some kind of cultural stagnation.
And maybe I'm using that to buttress my point.
Maybe I'm saying we're in a kind of like echo of previous art.
And it's emblematic of how we haven't moved forward.
And maybe that's part of the reason Taylor won't transcend.
Can I tell you?
I think you're onto something even more.
I think even politically, socioeconomically, I think we haven't moved forward in any facet of society.
stagnation.
I could say we're in a grand stagnation.
And I think it's the generation our parents and slightly above are holding on with their
dying breath, despite quote unquote loving their offspring.
They're holding on with their dying breath to power and to relevance.
And it's hurting the younger generation.
It's hurting culture on every level.
And most importantly, they're holding on to the equity.
That's what I'm saying.
They got the stocks and they got the houses.
And we're going paycheck to paycheck.
Brother.
And then as the dollar depreciates, their stuff goes up.
And our stuff gets...
It's not wrong.
And there's going to be that movie with Tom Cruise and when they go west in Oklahoma
and they have to race for the land.
Brother, far and away.
Far and away.
When, and it will be a sad day because I want them to live because I love them.
But when our millennial parents die the boomers, there will be a grand rate.
There will be changes of business.
It will be like the Wild West for a little bit, and I'm calling it now.
And it's going to be insane.
But you just got to map where you want to go.
Businesses are going to go over.
And will we have the skill sets to manage those small businesses?
When dad's plumbing company goes down, who's going to step in and own it?
It's going to be a big corporation that's going to come in, fucking buy it, gone.
Oh.
It's going to be...
So that's what you're saying is that like that when they die off the...
there's big corporations are going to swallow them up yep because they'll just hire someone who can
learn something or they have the they have the ability the money the time right there'll be to to
to train yeah that'll that'll make it available to outside the family a thousand percent it will
or or full far away and then the family and the family will get paid a little bit of a money a sum
and it'll be a quick payday and it's human nature to be like that's a pretty nice sum let me just
take that and no shame on the person for doing that.
So do you think boomers are the most narcissistic generation?
I would say I don't think it's innate narcissism or something that's like they chose to do that,
but it's something with the legislature and the way the country was built and now in their
position, it behooves them to be narcissistic.
It's just, it's the smart choice.
It's the smart choice.
And they can't go against that.
Yeah.
And I think we would have done the same thing in the same spot.
For sure.
And why wouldn't you?
Exactly.
I mean, like without getting too into the weeds here, but like if you look at Prop 13,
like anybody bought a house before like 1977 doesn't have to pay an increase in property tax
for the rest of their life as long as they stay in that house, which takes away a ton of like tax
money for everybody else in the city that comes after that and basically keeps this person
in their house forever.
But what does that do to everybody else?
It makes all the other house is expensive.
It makes your tax is more expensive.
So it's like there is like legit policy that made it better to be born at a certain time.
Totally.
And then you go and then they put measures on bills to vote on.
And we need money to run the city and quote unquote help some people whether you believe we should or not.
But it's like the money's got to come from somewhere.
And then everyone moans, can you believe how expensive parking meters are?
I'm like, yeah.
Yeah, I can't.
They got to get the money somehow.
What if far and away the new version is it's Mars and you got to go out there in a rover with a steel suit on and go plant a flag on what your piece of Mars is going to be.
What do you see that'd be pretty cool because we'd be in Mars, right? But we take a Falcon rocket. We land, right? But total recall. Pretty three titties. Right, Mars. It's my Elon talking about that movie, dude. It's very good. It's a good Elon. I want to try one. Do you want to try an Elon?
You did a great RFK. That's why I'm doing my Elon.
We try my ego.
Let me try my ego.
Give me a second.
Yeah, I was going to say, you need to talk about something.
You need to talk about, like, you need to talk about the best Sufi spot you ever had.
Or no, that's not exciting.
No, no, that's good.
That's good.
I think the thing that people misunderstand about a good, good Toro, is that if you go to a good person, like a, like, a, like,
Siatsu Natumoto, like, the way he does Torah, right, is like, it's, like, it's, like, so crazy.
Like, his Torah is, like, so, it's so, it's so crazy.
Like, a lot of people don't get it, right?
A lot of people, like, they just want their tore over, like, some soy sauce.
It's, like, so boring.
But, like, the way, I'm sorry.
I almost had something there.
You know who does the best Elon is Kyle Dunning.
Oh, yeah.
Fahim does a good one.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, Fahim.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he did a great Elon on your pod.
Oh, yeah.
He's a fucking talent, man, that guy.
All right, Chuck.
You're up, dude.
Can I try an Elon?
Yeah, please, no.
Can you give me a subject?
Yeah, let's see.
Tanning.
Easy Rider.
Oh.
Easy writer.
He used the thing with easy rideer.
That's pretty good.
That's good.
Go, go, go.
It's the production.
The production is the toughest.
When you make a, it's not just making the beer.
It's making the can.
And when you make the can, it's there's a lot, it's a lot tougher than you think, Joe.
Dude, that's good.
Honestly, that's probably the most locked in point of view of Elon is like the importance of a can.
The cyber truck, how difficult it is to make it.
See, that's perfect.
Okay.
That was fun.
My hot take, okay, okay.
This is bringing us home too, dude.
This is...
Oh, man, this is...
I sure is just...
This is tough.
This is huge.
This is tough.
will make you want to come when you do this take.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
2009.
JT.
you gave me 2009.
I think 2009.
I think 2009, I think 2009, I think 2009 was the beginning of this new era we're in.
2008 was the shift.
2008 was the turning point.
Because we had the invention of the iPhone.
and financial crisis.
Which, and that was when things shifted.
I think, I think, I think, I think, okay, I think, you know,
in the 90s we were in a utopia of sorts.
2001, 9-11, world changed.
Yeah.
But things, you know, things started to change.
a little bit but but I think one then the financial crisis and then the
invention of the iPhone 2008 that's when things went sideways in 2009 was the
start of that it's my hot take and so what would you call are we still in that
era and what would you call that era the era of fuck yeah
I feel like we got to put a happy bow on this thing.
I feel like we were...
Yes.
Sorry.
Because we didn't tell we were going to go at the booms either, at the boomer zone.
Well, here's my...
I'm just out of my dad.
Yeah, my dad.
We are stoked.
Just love me, dad.
Yeah.
Okay, my point of view on...
It's, you know, right now we're in the era of fuck.
But I think as you...
Everything is cyclical in history.
So I don't think we're going to be stuck in this forever.
I think we're going to shift into something else, and that's coming soon.
Oh, I think you're just going to say that's coming.
That'd be tight.
Oh, the era of coming.
The era of coming.
We're in the area of fucking right now.
Yeah.
Which can feel like work.
And you know what?
We may not have had World War II, but I think we'll be known as one of the strongest
generations because we went through COVID.
Yeah, COVID.
Hey, you know what?
2008 to COVID, that's a shift.
bro, COVID fucked
people up, bro.
You know what COVID started
was the YouTube rabbit hole?
Yeah.
You know much we've all gotten
because of COVID?
Yeah.
Like every me,
every one of our bros,
we all went down our own rabbit hole
and it was all our own thing.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And everyone's getting D minuses
on what they're reading.
Like if you were in eighth grade
and like you went in a COVID rabbit hole
and you had to explain to your teacher
what you read the night before,
you'd all fail.
Yeah.
You'd all be like,
that's not a passing.
score.
Yeah.
Of like,
like,
you should have to submit to a fucking eighth grade teacher.
Everything you looked at on YouTube,
fucking the internet,
whatever it was,
Reddit,
whatever website you went to.
And then the teacher would read it.
And then you would have to explain the theories,
thesis,
thoughts,
arguments,
commentary based on what you did the night before.
And I bet it would be so far off.
Yeah.
That it's insane.
Because that's what happens to me.
I fuck shit up.
I read an article.
And I paraphrase it.
I'll be like, oh, dude, do you see that thing about this?
And then J.T., you're really like, hmm, JT does a great face where he goes,
hmm.
I don't know if that's exactly what that means.
Then I go, oh, yeah, fuck, dude, you're so right about that.
But I was so-
That's a great call, though, like a conspiracy comprehension program.
Dude, yeah, bro.
Or like, once a quarter, you have to, like, bring all your new fangled ideas to, like,
some kind of vetter.
And then they're like, we gave you a D.
And you're like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
And how come it's never like a dude who's like, oh yeah, I own like four or five restaurants in my greater community.
We're expanding out of state next month.
That guy never has a conspiracy theory.
I actually, I think those guys actually have gone conspiracy.
Really?
You think they've gone?
I think of some of our buddies who are pretty successful guys who have gone down rabbit holes.
I think it's kind of, I think that's what's so crazy about COVID is to put everybody at home.
And everybody just started like being like.
And then dude, we know.
Yeah.
And then we have a fucking Epstein file thing now where it's like, like justifies,
even though incorrectly conspiracy theories.
Like I heard someone being like, yeah, Elon was there like every weekend.
And I'm like, actually you wanted to be there, but wasn't.
Like you didn't get invited, which is so funny.
But it's funny that like that's a bastardized element that I heard today just hanging out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is crazy.
I don't know.
Wait, how did we get there?
Fucking dude.
Dude, Chad.
Dude, 2008, bro.
Black-I-P is 2000 and late
Oh yeah
COVID
Yeah
It's COVID our World War II
Yeah
I hope so man
Hopefully we don't get into anything else
It was terrible
It was terrible
But God willing
That's the thing
But dude
Just picture this for a sec
You're
A woman in a fucking blazer
Yeah
Yeah
It's D-Day
And you're in your
Helmet
You're in the boat
And you're just your face
And then you're
your COs, God be with you.
You wouldn't be stoked to live that out?
If I lived.
To be able to be like, dude, I was there.
Oh, it would be amazing.
Oh, my God.
If you're a veteran, but then again,
all those veterans that do live through it,
like us, it's terrible.
Looking back, we glorify it and fantasize it.
Yeah, I know.
Because it's so sick.
But then once you've done it, you're like,
it's almost like stand-up comedy.
like dude we've all done stand-up comedy forever and like thinking about you guys now like you guys
headline you're going on the sick tour and it's amazing but like you've earned it and and and when we think
about that and as young chat and j t you think about where you're at now and you're like that's gonna be
amazing i'm gonna rage i'm gonna go down every water slide backwards it's gonna be so incredible but
when you've lived it and earned it and paid the prices of being there you're like no this is
just kind of where i need to be and i think that's kind of how those guys feel it but to like
the endth degree. It's like, yeah, bro, we did it
and I don't talk about it. And
you, and look, think about how many comedians we've seen who are
funny or haven't had success
or this or that in any way.
It's kind of weird that I'm equating, being a comedian
to serving in D-Day.
It's very comedian of you, though. Yeah, that's very
comedian. Yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to be like... When you're up at the
mic, and then the crowd's not laughing
and you got to make a decision.
You're at war. Think about... You're a war.
You're out of soldiers. You're a bunker. And you got
no one on your squad. And they got their
guns pointed at you. And all you got is you
gun but it's your brain.
Yeah.
And you got to fire everything you got it there.
And you got a brand new premise and you never used
it before. And when, dude, Boston
in the age? You have laughs
Boston. It's incredible.
It's a fucking weekend. It's a bunch of
HVAC employees. These guys are stressed out
guys. The Solid of the Earth guys. And your father
is Dooney Madigan? Nobody
crushed like Dooney Madigan. You don't do that.
And no one's going to come in here. The host
isn't going to save me. This ain't some Georgia's
fucking patent coming in here. Now,
I'm in the fucking bulge
and it's the German offensive against me
in the fucking forest of Arden
and I got a crush about a new bit
how my mother-in-law's in town.
That was great, dude.
Good breaths, bro.
You can imagine you hear D-Day with Joe
and Joe's like
Joe's like, I want of you guys to spread out.
Five of you guys together
that's a juicy target.
You got spread out
because that's a waste of ammo.
And then Joe, you're like,
you know, you're trying to take out
like the fucking nest or whatever.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And Joe's like, we're in business.
I'm just like a Tom size.
Joe's Tom's size Warren, saving private Ryan.
They do call Joe,
they call him the captain at the store.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a great name.
He is the captain, dude.
He's like, who's in charge here?
Who's the goddamn CEO?
Like, he's so,
how's he going to do laundry or war, though?
He's such a,
no, he's got his things.
He needs an assistant.
If you're a captain,
I think you get like a runner guy who will help you out. He needs that.
You said we need to go take out the M88. No, we're not doing that.
Bring me decaf and multi-grand toast. I'm not even meat anymore.
Bring it. Stat. Oh, man.
That was fun, guys. I felt like I was there with you guys. It's a testament to our bond.
It works. Yeah, this works. I see you. It feels good.
Yeah, it didn't feel like awkward.
I think we gotta do this every time dude. I think you might need to just yeah. Yeah. Dude, I was sad to
missing when I was like I was like I don't know how this is gonna work but I'm glad I got to do this
It's been a highlight of my week so thank you. Chad and I had a couple calls were like how do we tell JT we don't feel we don't feel like we're like
Very fair we do you text them up like I'm like dude I'm gonna text them because this is true it's how I feel dude and
I'm scared I was uh I was being too willful um thank you for doing that
Yeah, but this worked out great.
I will feel better.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll see you Lord soon.
Later, Stoker.
Bye, Jake.
Bye, Jake.
