Going Deep with Chad and JT - EP 425 - STRIDER'S HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Today we are joined by the T-DART Tyrant, Strider Wilson to rip some HOT TAKES but FIRST he has HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT. WE are so stoked on the news and are looking forward to what the future holds. CHECK ...OUT OUR NEW YOUTUBE SERIES: https://youtu.be/PSjlBzbrQXU?si=2w70u3Yx-5OlLOKH We are live streaming a fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeep Grab some dank merch here:https://appreeshapparel.com/ Come see us on Tour! Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.com TEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice) Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/ Thanks to our Sponsors: Talkiatry: Online Psychiatry that prioritizes YOU! Go to https://www.talkiatry.com/godeep and get the help you need today! KALSHI: Place bets on events, sports & politics  - Go to https://kalshi.com/ and use code godeep  and get an extra $10 when you deposit PRODUCTION & EDITS BY: Jake Rohret

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Zip it up and zip it down Stokers of Stoke Nation. This is Chad Kerrugher coming in with the Going Deepen chat JT podcast. Sorry, I have the hiccups. We got my compadre JT on the Zoom here. JT. what about? Boom clap, Stoker. And then we got the maestro of muff. Let's try to Wilson.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Thank you very much. So the conductor. I don't want to say the word that rhymes with it. It just seems too harsh right up top. Kondelangus? of C-U-N-T. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Seemed too hard up top. No. We've got to ease into it. No, that's our new lane. You can't just drop a C-U-N-T. Or can you? I don't know. So, guys, J-T is on the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Sorry, guys, I got the hiccups right before the start. It'll go away. Yeah, I just need to not think about it. Or do you bend forward, right? Have you seen that? Yeah, yeah, here we go. Ben forward and then put the glass up. It's supposed to be the trick.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Mm. Interesting, Ben. It's almost impossible, it seems. I think that cured it. Fuck. Did you hiccup? Yeah. Okay, I'll give you $5 if you hiccup in the next one minute.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Think about that. Are you drinking Scotch Strider? This is it. Dude, so J.T. I have this Maker's Market. It's a whiskey. This is a bourbon. Because Daddy.
Starting point is 00:01:51 is celebrating his free time right now. And the reason that you're zooming from afar is because you've been feeling ill. And so I have to apologize to the Stokers because JT looks vibrant, healthy, strong like he always does. But he's got a little bit of a sniffle and has a little bit of a, you know, whatever bug. And I'm a little bit worried about being around that because at home, there's a little mother. fucking bun in the oven. Hey, come on. So I got to be safe.
Starting point is 00:02:28 The wife. Yep. I've had sex proven one time. Document it. I can't believe you're going to be a dad, dude. I'm so excited. Dude, I'm pumped. You're a great dad.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Dude, you're a great dad. I'm taking you and your dank-ass wife are so nice. You guys did a nice call. Like, you could tell when I texted the thread, I'm like, what are some good books? And then you just, you called me and you're like, you're like, bro it's all good like this this this so that was really nice um yeah i think there's a lot of those days where you get anxious and you're like man what am i getting into how can i prepare for this and i yeah i think you're doing the right thing by trying to prepare but so much of it is a a surprise so you just
Starting point is 00:03:06 try to uh um you know be loving and and be steady for your fan but be you're you're those things all the time so i don't have any doubts that you're going to crush it and uh thank you you'll be you'll be ready for whatever comes. I'm fired up, dude. I'm fired up. I'm a big sleeper. So I'm really worried about that. A lot of my worries are selfish.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I'm not like, oh, is my kid going to be like healthy or whatever, dude, he's not going to have an eyeball. My kid could be a cyclops, fine. But as long as I sleep, dude, like, that's what matters. Yeah. Oh, no, that shouldn't be an issue.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Kids don't wake up a lot. Good, dude. Let them sleep. Let those things, let him sleep. No, I'm being sarcastic, dude. Fuck. You know what's one of my favorite dad jokes? dude. Whenever someone says they're tired after a long trip, you know, they get back from the airport,
Starting point is 00:03:52 you go shake hands. All right, man, hey, get home safe. As soon as I get home, man, I'm going to sleep like a baby. I go, wake up every two minutes, screaming? Classic joke. You know what, but if your kid takes after you, because I know you were saying that your dank ass wife, that she's been waking up a little bit. Yeah. You guys think the kid might get regimented to that even. I do. Yeah. This is theory. but if the kid takes after you you are one of the all-time sleepers you famously overslept an appointment you had at 3 p.m. You did? Yeah, yep I woke up it was like 258 I was like holy shit I like kept hitting snooze for like four hours I was like there's no way there's no way
Starting point is 00:04:36 it's not until the afternoon and I look at the clock I'm like oh my god there's a way I did it that's amazing your kid could be a prodigy dude and just come out the gates and just be eight hours a night that'd be so rad that'd be so proud that'd be sick that'd be so proud but you want to feed them you want them to get big though too so you got to be you know giving them the that's true given them the sustenance but but you know probably get some alpha brain from rogan put that in there yeah probably get some um you know start making sentences at like a week probably some rishi mushroom get that in there dude some dieting creatine for sure right off the
Starting point is 00:05:13 bat dude you want to chop up some bull penis bull penis oh no no question about that that's i mean that's that's a given so yeah i i i alpha brain works i've taken it a couple times i've had like my best stand-up sets on it but it gives you a massive headache you had your best fantasy draft on it that was brooks brooks borrowed my alpha brain and won the super bowl are you serious yeah he borrowed it for the draft yeah i brought it to the draft and briggs was like give me some of that and then he freaking ripped it damn he sucks every other year bro he's the worst he's the worst He's the worst. He's the worst guy. He's the best guy in the world, but he's the worst at fantasy.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Terrible. I think he beat me that year, too. He had freaking DeAndre Hopkins dropped like a 40 burger on Thursday. But yeah. No, your kid's going to be a beast, though. Do you guys, have you revealed to the world? The gender? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It'll be a little girl. Yeah, little girl. Very stoked. Very excited. Very excited. I'm excited to have a little girl, dude. I think I've got... Your girl then.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, I think I, this was in the car. for me for the beginning. If I was going to bet on that, I'd be like, girl dad. And I've got a niece and she's the best. So I'm so excited. And yeah, it's awesome. What, uh, um, you know, what's funny is I was talking to my cousin on the phone the day you told us or you, the day you like, I was like, I was like, yeah, I don't know. You know, he was like, he's like, when do you think Strad's going to have become? I'm like, I don't know. And it was like, literally that day. It was in my, my wife kind of blew it too. Yeah. It's funny. Well, no, it's not even your dank wife's fault.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Like, we've been doing the Hollander impression to each other so much. And, like, we'll call each other and we'll just, like, I'll leave voice memos, everything. So you probably thought I was just going to hollander you. But then I was like, dude, I had this amazing news to tell you and kept missing them. And I didn't want to leave a voicemail. Right, right, right, right. So then I would leave a Hollander voicemail. And then he'd be like, oh, that was what that was.
Starting point is 00:07:06 So it was kind of a perfect storm. Do you think, do you think if you keep doing the Hollander thing, your kid will have a Russian accent? I hope so. Yeah, I do. Hello, Strider. Strider. Strider. Simple.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Hello, Mom. Give me the milk. Simple. Simple. Simple. Simple milk. You don't understand. Look, I'm an excellent hockey player.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And I'd like to bone. Get out of my room. I'll just be excited if my daughter's gothic one day, dude. Simple. Get out of my room. Simple. Are you going to like raise your religious? You know, I think there's some good stuff to, I mean, I'm just so lazy.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Like, there's no way, bro, that I'm going to go to church every Sunday. Probably should. You did? I think it's important to have community, but I did like every Sunday. Dude, I didn't even know there was a church that wasn't 9 o'clock mass. I found out there was like an evening and an 11. I'm like, why, Mom, Dad, why you've been boning us my whole life? You went every weekend growing up?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. What a chore for your parents to have to get five kids in the car to mass every Sunday. Bro, do you know what they did? They went, they dropped us off. My parents, first of all, were hilarious. They both wore sunglasses inside church, odd. And then, although it was in Edwards. Yeah, it's not okay.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Does the Bible green light that? I guess sunglasses weren't around. Yeah, I'm like, wait trying to be all cool in church. and then they would just leave us in there. So for an hour, and then my mom, like, we would come back and they'd have Starbucks. And we'd be like, you guys just fucking went to Starbucks. And then it's Catholic. So then right after church, there's CCD, which is like Catholic school and like you go
Starting point is 00:08:54 learn about the Bible and stuff. That was another two hours. So this was just babysitting. Right. This is what this was. How long is that total? The best babysitter in the world. You start at nine.
Starting point is 00:09:07 When would you end? 12.30. Damn. Three and a half hours. It's an hour of mass. They would have to come back and, like, get us from mass to the CCD area. And there was a free donut involved after that, which was sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And then, yeah, so, I mean, if they've got that going on, yeah. And there's some good values in there, you know. Man's institutions are fallible, but, you know, the almighty himself is not. Amen, brother. Dude, I took, this Sunday I took my kids to the zoo, which is an amazing thing. But I was telling Chad, when he pull into the Burbank, kind of great too, like top notch. When you pull in there, there's a hundred protesters with speakers calling you a monster
Starting point is 00:09:49 because they think the elephants being held against his will. Whoa. But he's even, they shipped him out. He's at a sanctuary in Texas, but they're still there every day. And so you're just rolling in with your kids and it like really, you know, they're probably right, but it's just crushing the vibe. And I don't know, I was feeling like a smart ass, I guess, and I kind of had a smile on my face and one of the guys goes, get that smile off your face, man.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Oh, no way. Yeah, and we like, and I kind of like, I didn't jaw at them, but I was like, oh, like, I gave him like a face. And then, um, but yeah, the zoo's great. I will say this. I didn't see any of the elephant protesters at the ice protest. They must have, you know, they got to fire. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:29 The humanity. Did, what do you do if you see the animals mating at the zoo? Your kids are too young to even register that, probably. Um, I think my kids would be into it. I let them watch. Yeah. It probably depends on the animals. I mean, we saw the, we got, we had great luck.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We saw the tiger. We saw the wolf. We saw the snow leopards. Oh, that's sick. Yeah. That's a great run. You know, it was insane. It was insane.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Wow. The guy next to me was like, we've never seen the tiger before. He's sleeping all day. And he was walking around. My daughter. Really? Good vocabulary already. She goes, he's very handsome.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Are you serious? Really? Yeah. That's because she hears her dad say that in the mirror, handsome. Handsome. handsome every morning no she calls me peanut butter and jelly face does she really
Starting point is 00:11:14 dude that's me I like it though I like it though dude my niece calls me my niece one time goes you look like a shoe I don't know what that means but I didn't like it
Starting point is 00:11:23 I don't like that I don't like that for some reason I like it when my I was picking her up before bed to night and I was going do I have a peanut butter and jelly face and she goes yeah and I go where's the peanut butter and jelly
Starting point is 00:11:35 and she'll like touch my lips or something you know for the zoo protesters And we may have mentioned this before, but my hot take is the zoo is for parents and kids. Because it is an amazing experience for children, albeit like, I don't know the dynamic of animals. I know some of them are comfortable with territory and maybe the cage of the territory, and it's not as big as in nature. I get that. I get the idea of a cell and that's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:11:58 But I do think it's a nice thing. And like when I have my daughter, like, for sure I'm going to take her to go see those animals. I would just, you know, there's the white. wild animal park in San Diego, which is like a conservatory. So there's ways, I don't know. Is that different from the San Diego Zoo? It's different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It's different. Dude, it's actually sicker than the San Diego Zoo. And the San Diego Zoo is amazing, but I think the wild animal park's sicker. They have like a mini Serengeti where the animals all interact and shit. Oh, that's sick. It's sick. But it's a whole day trip. Like, you're not going to do that if you live in Burbank.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Like, you're not going to San Diego. Yeah. That would be cool. I hear where they were coming from. I think I was just tired and like, you know, you're with your kids. so you're like on defense a little bit but uh i think if i do my due diligence i'm sure i'll find out that that they're correct but i talked to a former one time i was like how do you know if your cows are happy and he just says if they're eating their chud
Starting point is 00:12:51 eating their chud hilarious i uh i don't know like it seems you know like in blackfin they said it was if the the dorsal fin curved or whatever well i i uh i'll take photos of my dog and send them to chat GPT I'm like what's your read are you serious yeah yeah she happy he's like yeah dude she's chilling I have it are you sure dude jack JET you knows bro and he really does know it does it analyzes it's like it's like ears aren't pinned backed faces relaxed eyes are soft this is it and so if I have like this is her and her I'm just having to snuggle in a me time moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And I'm like, wow. She's a very happy dog, Lola. She's always got a lot of energy. Oh, thank. Yeah, she's always. It probably just cheated. I probably saw it was a golden. It's like, yeah, your dog's fine.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. It's a good. AI is taking cutting corners. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's like humans, it will do that. Has Sunny started to respond differently? Does he sniff? Like, he sniffs.
Starting point is 00:14:01 He, um, we taught him not to hop. He hops on us, which we like. but now we don't want him to hop on my dank wife's belly so he goes around now and he like he's he treads a little more carefully um and he's been very affectionate he's been very affectionate especially with my dank wife sleeps yeah he like nozzles in yeah that's pretty cute that's cool I mean they can smell everything these dogs dude they know oh they know yeah they know yeah yeah jiji started pissing on the floor and like ripping up the trash like the night we found out she ripped up the trash can really oh she's yeah she's like
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah, she knew she was going to get displaced a little bit. Dude, Sunny got diarrhea, kind of when we found out. Yeah, I think they, I think they, they sense the energy shift and they're like, this is not going to be good for me. Damn. But it's kind of a good movie, Lady and the Tramp, isn't that what that is? It's like they kind of, the baby shows up and then the dogs kind of got a... Is that what happens? Is that what the inciting incident in that is?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah, I think it is, yeah. That's the catalyst. Sorry. Sonny's like he's like oh you're pregnant just shits on the floor exactly dude
Starting point is 00:15:09 we get a crib or whatever and all the baby stuff and just fucking shits in all of it it's great in dog custom that's actually celebratory yeah yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:15:18 that is like that is like that just yeah let me piss on you real quick congratulate you yeah that's hilarious dude it's a big year 2026 dude
Starting point is 00:15:28 stepping into daddy mode you're going to be getting getting married soon yeah yeah We got your batch. You won't be far behind. Yeah, bro. Your batch party coming up.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah. Scott'sdale. Are you going to have, is Marco going to walk your dank wife down the aisle or is he, or are you going to walk her down the aisle? Then he'll do the whole ceremony segment. He's going to, he's going to carry her. Okay. Yeah, he's going to lift her up and carry her.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He's so strong. That's going to be easy for him. I bet you he doesn't even like, no imbalance, just a steady men of honor walk. They're practicing right now. He does. one arm. Oh, that's good. Good. He carries her around the neighborhood and then he takes her home and stretches her. You know what's weird? Yeah, stretches her out. Yeah. Yeah, good. I'd ask, because my fiance did the same thing. My wife and I'd be like, how was practice?
Starting point is 00:16:19 She's like, it was great. I'm sore. I'm like, you're sore from being carried? Yeah. Interesting. It is interesting. Yeah. I know. She's like, like, yeah, we're just going to watch a movie. We're just going to watch Saving Private Ryan. I'm like well that's my favorite movie. You never watched that with me. She's like well Marco knows history so he's going to walk me through. But then she'll be like yeah I'm sore after watching
Starting point is 00:16:45 saving Private Ryan. Interesting. And I'm like well it is a tense movie I guess you could say but I've never been sore after but she's exhausted. So similarly they watched American President together which is a movie I really you know just adore
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. And then she came home. I was still excited to talk about it. I'm like, Michael Douglas was ripping in that thing. She's like, what? Michael Douglas was in what? I'm like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Really? She had no idea of Michael Douglas was in the movie. I guess he's such a chameleon. Yeah, he just slips into the role. Yeah, exactly. Wow. It's crazy. Yeah, slips in.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah. Is that what she said, right? Yeah, she said, oh, he just slips into that role. My wife, she knows I love the Civil War, and she watched Gettysburg. It's a four and a half hour movie. Ken Burns. No, no, that's the documentary one, but there's one from 1993.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I think it's Robert Maxwell's the director. I really love it. Jeff Daniels is in it. There's also gods and generals. Anyway, she's like, can you believe who's your most favorite Robert E. Lee? Is it Martin Sheen or Robert DeVall? And I was going to answer, and she goes, no, no, shut up. I'm on the phone with Marco. But I couldn't tell because her voice was hoarse from watching Gettysburg on DVD.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Does that ever happen? Like, does your wife ever get a sore throat from watching, like, a DVD? Yeah. She heard all sorts of weird things happen to her voice when I call her when she's with Marco. Like, sometimes, like, she can't get the words out. It's like she's gagging. Oh. Yeah, sometimes it's tough reception.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It must be like a Brazilian cell phone company or something. Yeah. She's with Marco right now. I tried calling her. And she was like, a. told you not to call me. What times your appointment? What times your wife said by?
Starting point is 00:18:33 The boundaries are important. Yeah. Yeah. My wife has an appointment with Marco later too. Tonight? Yeah, I'm going to pick them up later after the pod. She said, she said you can record as long as you want. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So, so no stress. He's a busy guy. He is a busy guy. Wow. He's so cool. He's so cool. You know, as cool is, I don't know if you guys do this too. When I drive them around, they sit in the back.
Starting point is 00:19:00 see like it's an Uber. Yeah, that's, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I just don't think he has a, he has a motorcycle, but not a, um, regular car license. Mm-hmm. So it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Mm-hmm. They make me, um, they put up like a beach towel, like a limo style. Uh-huh. So I really, I can't look back. Yeah. I guess it's something with like the humidity and Pilates and just create, I mean, the ligaments get loose. or that way or something.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's kind of like a warm up, I guess. Yeah. And they make me turn the music up. Well, cheers to Marco. Yeah, cheers. Oh, you downed your glass of water. I down my glass, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Oh, you go. Is it bad form to cheers with water? I've heard that. I feel that's kind of discriminatory. I'm like, cheers whatever fluid you got, brother. Yeah, maybe it's all water. Like, if everyone's cheering water, but JT's got like a hydration drink over there, I've got a whiskey.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And I mean, you've got L.A. tap water, so brother, God knows what's in there. Yeah, gray water, baby. That was shit two weeks ago. Oh, is it already toilet water? No, actually, I don't think that's in the drinking supply yet, but we'll get there. You feel great. What do you think, speaking of weird stuff of ingesting? What do you think got you, bro, if you're down to share?
Starting point is 00:20:24 I think I got norovirus, but I didn't get the kind where you're shitting and pukin. I just had a terrible stomach cramps and like no energy. I slept 20 hours on Monday. Whoa. And we were supposed to shoot. Yeah. And I was going to try and like, thank God I didn't. I would have been asleep.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I tried to shoot today with Giga's and I couldn't do it. You know, just in the cars. Yeah, like I had to bother people. And the first lady I asked you, you know, you got to have energy to like kind of, you know, do that on the street stuff. I'm like, hey, man, can I, uh, can I, uh, and I bother you for a little bit and she just walked away
Starting point is 00:21:01 and I just put my head in my hand and she goes, it's all right if we don't shoot man. The cheeks. Yeah, so I had the Noro and that banged me up for like 36 hours and then right when I got better from that I got a pretty wicked cold
Starting point is 00:21:17 and that's kind of what had me banged up today. Amuno compromise, bro. That's what's up. I know, but it's just... Are the little kiddos is okay? Yeah, dude. my son, Tank, he got it first.
Starting point is 00:21:32 All he did was throw up once and then he was over it. And he was fine, like from then on. Being young rules. He just threw up out of nowhere. I thought it was from our food until then my wife got it too. And then I was like, okay, we're all passing something around. But yeah, the kids are okay. They're tough.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah. But they probably started it for sure. I think that's how it goes, right? They're in daycare. It's at that stage. They bring stuff. These are the things about having a kid that I look forward to or I'm like, show, we're a mask around my kid,
Starting point is 00:22:03 but I'm like, that's weird. I'm not doing that. That'd be hilarious. Like, my dad's an alien. Yeah. Because Aaron used to come in when we were recording like sick all the time. Yeah, bro. And I didn't have kids yet.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And I couldn't like comprehend. I'm like, dude, you came to work with a cold. But then once you have like babies and toddlers, you just, you just sick changes. You're just like, yeah, I'm always in certain, in a stage of being sick or just coming off being sick, and you just get used to it for a couple years. It's a, it was a big mental flip for me because I'm such a hypochondriac, but yeah, you'll get through it, right. Do you, do you feel as much, or you just kind of, like, used to it? You don't feel the colds I don't feel as much.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So I was like, I didn't think this one would bang me up that much, but then this one, like, I had to slow down. Normally I can power through, but this one I was like, I felt like such a pussy, but yeah, I just beat the shit out of me. Yeah. I was just floored. It'll fuck you up. Just laying on the couch, just sleeping. I didn't realize norovirus is the thing that tears through cruise ships.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah, so I'm happy about that because I don't think we're going to get it. I don't think there's a lot of strains. You'll be safe. Yeah. Oh, you guys are doing a cruise soon. We're doing cruise, yeah. That's going to be, I saw that. That's sick.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, and this isn't to take away how cool we are, we got nice billing on the poster. I saw that. But I think we're replacing Adam Ray. I think so, too. Because I could see from the comments, we were like, what happened, Adam Ray? And this is the third or fourth time we've replaced Adam Ray on a gig, like the last year. So we must have the same agents or management.
Starting point is 00:23:46 We do have the same agent. Yes. Every time, Adam. You know, he's busy, guys crushing it. They're always great gigs, too. I'm always psyched. But, yeah, I hope he stays busy. Yeah, keep going Adam Ray, baby.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, yeah. Bucks of movies, dude. Yeah, shout out Adam. Yeah, bro. Dr. Phil to the fucking moon, baby. Yeah. Let's go. But I'm fired up for that, man.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It looks like a fun bunch of comedians. It's just going to be like, not that I care, but it's going to be like 95% dudes on that thing, right? I would assume so. I would assume so. Yeah. But that'll be interesting. Just being on a boat with 2,000 guys.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious. I'm very curious what the audience will be like. I think we're just going to be like wrestling at the pool. Yeah. I mean, I'm a big cruise guy, so I'm pretty. I'm excited to go with you, like an elite cruiser. I know, but I'm kind of a, you know, I just like being on the Osh.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Although if there's like a sexiest man contest, we got to do that. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, I think all the comedians, I'm sure, going to dive straight into that, too. So you don't like going off boat when you hit, like, one of the... Oh, no, I'll go off boat. Like, we're going to Cozumel. Yeah, that's sick island.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Maybe do Scuba. Yeah, you got to. And where is it, Tampa to Toulom? Did I see that? Tampa to Cozumel. Oh, okay. Just one style. And then where do you fly back?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Oh, then the boat goes back to Tampa. Yeah. That's a quick cruise. That's nice. That's perfect. Yeah, I think... A one day leave, one day at sea, Cozumel, one day at sea back. Fucking perfect.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Oh, wait, so we're flying home from Tampa. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Cool. That's going to be sick. That's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm sure some dudes will bring their girlfriends. Those dudes are going to be on guard. You better bring a sword or something, brother. Yeah. All the dudes, he's me, what's up? What's up? So who do you like the most? Santino, JT, JT.O.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Adam Rayo. Cool. That would be funny if dudes went on the cruise to meet chicks. They're like, bro, it was a total sausage fest. Yeah, exactly. I went on the workaholics cruise and it's just all dudes. It's kind of like the most beautiful thing. Like it's like it is kind of like a dude's wellness retreat.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Like you're going to be laughing, hanging out, seeing like super funny guys. You guys are fucking hilarious. I love Bobby Lee. I love everyone on that whole roster. It's going to be awesome. Like it is going to be. And there's no stress and having to hook up with a chick.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah. You're just going to go to your, your fucking cabin and jack off later at night. That's what I've done on every cruise I've ever been on. Oh, just perfect with no pressure. Big jack off time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It's emotional bonding. You know, like, Lord of the Flies is like this awful story about like if you get man away from society, we just turn into like savages and turn on one another. But there was a group of Tongan boys who got shipwrecked on an island. And they worked together like in total harmony.
Starting point is 00:26:50 and when they picked them up a couple years later, they were thriving. And I feel like that's what the cruise ship's going to be. I think that's exactly right. It's better than fiction. Like, we're just going to be like, like, when I'm talking about wrestling at the pool, I mean that in the most positive, beautiful sense, like just men, just in their spirit and energy without like real competition because they're not trying to peacock for chicks, just like, just living together.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And it's like the guy that loses, another buff man comes up to me. He's like, hey, man, here's what you did. You got to counter to the move with that. Pivot with this. Coaching, shift your weight and then counter. that's a beautiful thing. I'm excited for the coaching on the cruise. I think that's going to be really great.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Men's coaching is one of the best things that there is out there. It's one of the best. Usually it only exists on mainland in the form of adult karate. And so it's nice that it's happening on the cruise. You know, my fiancé said to me recently, she said, you know, you need to learn how to fight. Really? Dude, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:45 We talked about this on the Dolph London pod, which Stokers, if you haven't listened to that, It's a great episode. Go back and rediscover it. One of my favorites we've ever done. I talked about maybe wanting to do Shoto Khan. And then J.T. was like, bro, you can't wear a ghee. I'm like, that's a good call.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And then even don't. I just, I think there's, you should do like, you know what, though? I feel bad because I have that same thought now being like, no, you can't do it. Do whatever you want. Find your way. And I just like, it's an, in MMA, you don't see as many guys who do that. It's more like Muay Thai and boxing and wrestling are kind of the base in jihits and jiherser, like the bases.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But Dolph himself said kickboxing. Is kickboxing nonsense? No, kickboxing's legit. But you know what you could do is you watch an old fight between a Grufis, I think, who was a kickboxer at the time when he fought a Muay guy, and he was kicking his ass. But then the Muay Thai guy just started wailing his leg with leg kicks, because there wasn't leg kicks in kickboxing.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And that's how he won the fight. And then his brother afterwards was like, he's like a jersey guy. He said, what was that? Leg kicks? That's for like girls. That's how you went a fight. But that's when Muayai became like the more popular. stand-up fighting system
Starting point is 00:28:51 because they battle test them. They put them up against each other. It's pretty badass. And the leg kicks are so hard. That doesn't it hurt your foot so bad? Is it just hitting bone on bone? You got to build up scar tissue. I mean, look, I can't fight. But I think
Starting point is 00:29:06 whatever you guys choose to do, it's beautiful. I love if you guys get in there and start... I think you guys would both be great at it. You're tallest shit. You're super outplay. Well, the thing is, I want to work with swords. Oh, dude, we should do L.A. Sword play. The place in Burbank, we should go. Dude, that be...
Starting point is 00:29:21 Rokane said that's the best fighting system. That'd be sick. Yeah. Dude, honestly, I kind of want to get good at kickboxing, go back to the zoo, and beat all those people's asses. That'd be fun. Yeah. I mean, you'd beat...
Starting point is 00:29:34 I think if they would have done, like, a good Muay Thai fighter versus a good sword fighter, my money would be on the sword fighter. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think if you'd take probably the best Greco-Roman wrestler and put them up against a guy with, like, a gun. I'll take the wrestler. Depends the distance they start.
Starting point is 00:29:54 They're like, in this corner is Romeo Palhadris. He's a wrestler, jiu-jitsu guy from San Paulo. And in this corner is Sir Galahad. He's six foot two of five, and he's got a broad sword. Dude, it's funny. Dude, I bet this is what they did in Rome. They would take a warrior. They'd be like, this wasn't a warrior that we abducted
Starting point is 00:30:18 from like a far region of Gaul. and it's like a Scottish dude that's like an animal versus like a regular citizen. Like this is a wimp that we got who like didn't listen to his fucking, you know, on the Fatima or whatever the Roman plantation was. He didn't listen to his lord. So but we've given him the Roman sword. Who will win? Go.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And then people would eat bread and watch that. And with the, with the foreign guy usually just destroy him. Bro, I don't know. I mean, I think it's. Or would they rig the game against him? It's a good question. Depends who the ruler is. And I guess if they hype up Rome and like the Roman sword element,
Starting point is 00:30:55 then maybe they'd want that to prevail. Yeah. But that would be interesting. You watch that and they're like, you know, this is a battle between, you know, a normal Roman soldier and a great warrior from Gaul before the guy kills him. The tiger comes and eats him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:12 They do they do that. What happened? They still do stuff like that in Russia. Like, you'll just see stuff on social media where it'll be like, six dwarfs first like a regular sized man that's a but he's like a good fighter yeah and like the dwarfs are good fighters too but he'll be like karate kicking him out of the ring that's hilarious you're like you know I'm glad we don't do this here but I'm glad it happens somewhere yeah uh oh man dude I've been watching I've watched this probably like five times in the past week is just this section
Starting point is 00:31:48 I watched the movie, but just this section, free solo. I've seen it, you know, I saw it when it came out, but dude, it's incredible. I know I'm late to the party here, but. Oh, had you not seen it? No, I've seen it, but I just like, now I'm like obsessed with it. I don't know what happened. Yeah, because you were always more of a Donwall guy. I was more of a Donwall guy.
Starting point is 00:32:11 At first I thought Honol was kind of a dude. Sorry, I just keep hiccuping. It was kind of a douche. but now I'm like no he's not a douche and it's just such an incredible he's just like super hyper-focused he's just so locked in he's just an ultimate
Starting point is 00:32:29 he's a machine yeah I wish I wish I could be a climber it's just learning about the equipment and all that stuff and ropes and it's like a pain in the ass yeah you get a buddy who like rips out it though and they'll be your like a spirit guy
Starting point is 00:32:44 yeah like can you belay me a lot of comedians like to do it. Like Madison Hedgecock's like a hell of a climber. Oh, yeah. Is he still in a left? Yeah, I'll see. I think he still lives in the South Bay.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I'll see him on social media doing like V-6s. Really? Sevens. Oh, yeah. He's getting like sideways and, you know. Dude, we did your birthday party years ago. That JT. Coordinated.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You threw the best party. It was like protein and climbing. It was the best party at all time. I got only chicken and steak for the food. That was hilarious. That was so fun. That was so fun. Dude, I think climbing is a good way to meet chicks.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. That's what people say. That's what people say. Chicks with tattoos and stuff. Yeah. Like an off-centered leg tattoo. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Oh, exactly. On the tauton. Like, on a sazi dude playing the fucking thing. Like, everyone has that tattoo. Yeah. Yeah. She went to like brown and she's like, yeah. I was like, I lived in a house with four other chicks.
Starting point is 00:33:41 We all like, you know, scissered, but I don't identify. Yeah, exactly. I did an element of that when I was in, Switzerland learning about like, you know, predominant, like, most optimal social systems for government. But I realized, you know, best thing to do is nurture your soul. So now I climb and just fucking just. Yeah. Fucking. Great chicks, by the way. I didn't mean that in a derogatory sense. They're the best chicks, dude, besides our wives. Yeah. Yeah. Not mine. Oh, your stomach got you
Starting point is 00:34:09 fucked up right there? Yeah, I think I was laughing too hard. See, dude. That's what I'm saying. That's why they had to do this on Zoom. That would have worried me, dude. No, it was It was, I was, it was silly that I was trying to make this happen. I was like, no, we can do this. Let's get in person. And you were like, dude, my wife's brain. I was like, dude, if I got my life sick, I'd be like, holy fuck, dude. Because she's had her, you know, morning sickness and shit.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Like, I would feel so bad. I just kept thinking I was going to get better. I was trying to be optimistic. But it just kept every morning, I'd be like, chat, I can't do it. Yeah. I know that feeling. It's the worst. It just doesn't go away.
Starting point is 00:34:48 When we were doing the Netflix show in the writer's room was so funny when he got the flu bro and JT looks at the show and he's like we gotta get you
Starting point is 00:34:55 how to get out of here dude it was the funniest thing and dude you guys always sat next to each other and we had like wheelie chairs
Starting point is 00:35:00 and his fucking wheeled all the way around the corner of the fucking next with the next and the next person was the funniest I was trying to get like
Starting point is 00:35:07 five feet away yeah yeah then we'd call the next day we're like how you feel and he's like I'm good
Starting point is 00:35:13 yeah I miss like a week I think that was early COVID. I think it was. It was right before COVID. It was December before COVID. I was coughing nonstop. Oh, do you think you got COVID? I mean, I didn't lose my sense of smell or taste, but I was coughing nonstop. That would kind of make sense because you didn't get it again for like two years. Yeah. So it kind of tracks. I had all the symptoms. Did you ever get vaccinated? You don't have to answer that if you don't want to. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Oh, we all had to for the show. Oh, that was the thing with Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, go listen to the episode, Joe. People loved it. Oh, yeah. Hilarious. We had to record that episode twice.
Starting point is 00:35:58 People might not know this. We had to record it twice because the first one had like sensitive information about production companies and TV stuff. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, so the second one was worse. And people were like, this is awful. And like, yeah, because we had to do it twice. We didn't have to do. but yeah just grilling joe oh man why didn't you why won't you do it this principled man
Starting point is 00:36:20 dude he's doing good passed at the store let's go that's awesome dude that's a huge achievement man that's it's really amazing guys we are on tour we are going to be in bozman this weekend tickets are selling out we added a late show on tuesday so make sure you get your tickets before they sell out bozman montana what up then we're going to be in washington dc then uh bringing the one-man show back to LA at the Hudson Theater and then San Francisco on March 25th and then San Diego on April 9th then Denver, Colorado, those shows got moved to May 6th through the 9th. So get your tickets at chat and jt.com. Also check out our new YouTube show on the chat and jt go deep channel. So stoked on it. So stoked on you guys. Guys let's say you've been on
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Starting point is 00:38:54 Okay, let's see here. I've got a lot of fun ones here. Let me see, what's my, what's a hot, hot take, dude? This is a very hot take. Blazers. Better on women than men. Ooh. Oh. I like that.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Okay. Agreed. Okay. Yeah. A woman in a lady suit. Yeah. And pardon the pervert that's about to present itself from within me. No pants.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Oh, of course, no pants. But the little bit of the, you know, I'm picturing her wearing like a blouse, a little bit of, you know, a well-chested woman in a blazer. Very nice. Also, you know I like to do this when we do the hot takes. conversely skirts a.k.a. kilts
Starting point is 00:39:44 better on men. Whoa. And you might say dude what are you talking about strider? Skirts are the best. Women have cocktail dresses
Starting point is 00:39:56 sun dresses arguably better than the skirt. Here's the thing. Here's the thing because your balls on accurate and you're nailing it. A dress looks better on a woman because they got the hip.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Thank you. The whole physique. Yeah, you've got to get the women's hips and they're more fatty glutes in there. But the skirt obscures that. And so if you've got a skirt, what you're really highlighting is the quads. Correct. And the best quads all do respect are on the fellas. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's good. Thank you very much. And the jacked calf. I want to see the jacked calf. Yes. Yes. So I think that's better. And then for me, for my money, a dude and a blazer.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Um, vanilla. Mm-hmm. Unless you're a hockey coach. Not ice, I haven't. A hockey coach in a, in a tope blazer with slicked hair. I'm in. What's dope? It's like green.
Starting point is 00:40:52 It's like my pants that I'm wearing now. That's what I was thinking. I never knew that. It's a pant. I used to work in Norseum. Oh, wow. I'm not just some guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Can I ask you a follow up on the blazer? Yes. Ideal hair length for the woman wearing the blazer. laser and I have an opinion. Can I tell you? No longer than shoulder. Baby, that's where I'm at as well. Right here. Yeah. Right here. That right there. Exactly right. And then I'm getting warning now. Yeah, me too. I just got a little horny thinking about that, dude. I'm not going to lie. Here's a cue. So what do you think has the best mix of... Look at my face. I'm horny. Yeah. Holsomness and horniness. The sundress. Correct. Yeah. The sundress is the
Starting point is 00:41:38 premier outfit on a woman. Hands down. Yeah. If I hear it in a song, I'm instantly taken to a place. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like she looks pretty in a sun dress. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yep. Yeah. Sounds nice. So that's my hot take, dude. Blazers are for the ladies, not for the fellas. Now, you know who I'm kind of picturing Blazers, that hair length? This is such an obscure pick, but the chick from rock star, the movie with Mark Wahlberg who works for the band.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Oh, fuck. I know Jennifer Aniston's the girl on that. The only person who will get this is my brother because I made him watch them. You know who else would look good in it? Kind of obscure, but like Joey Lauren Adams. You know that actress? I think she would look good in one. Honestly, I bet you Bree Larson would look really good in one.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, Julia Roberts can't look bad in anything, but I think if you put her in one, great. Jennifer Aniston? of course Jennifer Hamilton Mm-hmm I keep
Starting point is 00:42:43 Oh Charlize their own Oh yeah I keep thinking of Who she was in She's in random movie She's in like Harold and Kumar And
Starting point is 00:42:55 And I don't know her name But she looks good in the sundress Can I tell you She's blonde It's almost one of those things Where Someone in a uniform is nice Like a pilot
Starting point is 00:43:07 like you kind of get why women are into pilots or like even a few good men um jane you think of like a lady in the uniform is it's nice yeah even though that's not technically a blazer but it's just it's a good it's dignified check though it's a hint it's a hint of yeah you're thinking malin acriman yeah malin acriman oh yeah i like malinacan acumen yeah she's like from Australia. Oh, she is? Nice. From the Watchman and she was in a recent Netflix series
Starting point is 00:43:40 of Who Done it. Dude, my wife and I watched his and hers on Netflix. Great. Dude, it was good. I liked it. It's awesome. Dude, it gets very dark, but it was good. The twists and shit. Oh, come on. Now, you're gonna say that with no evidence? Come on. You kind of get annoyed. Come on, Boston.
Starting point is 00:43:56 You kind of want, what's that actor's name? Robert Barrenthall. He was great. You want Berndtall to be guilty. You're like, you're an idiot at this point. Yeah. Oh, he's so stupid in it, but he plays it so, he brings so much like body and personality to it. It's so on point. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:44:12 How fucking evil are those chicks in it though? Oh, dude. My dank-ass wife and I, when we were watching, we're like, that's almost too evil. It's too much. They're like human traffickers. They're like, what the fuck's going on? And then to go sleep with the, let's just spoil it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 To go sleep with the the husband of the girl that you like set up an essay on. I'm like, that seems a little bit it's all, it's a little too gnarly. You're the devil? Yeah. It's the most evil thing I've ever experienced like watching something. So like that's, I mean, it's like it's very dark. Yeah. But it had to go that way to be surprising. The twist at the end, I don't think, I don't think anyone could have predicted that. No, no, no. No, that's a little hard to believe, honestly. Yeah. And she was able to do all that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. But I like, but I like,
Starting point is 00:45:01 I like, but now I'm, now I'm picking nits because I really much, I like that show a lot. I had a good time the whole time. Same here. Yeah. And dude, is it so nice when you got a show with your wife? You're going to say that? What are you doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. He'd like, derail the one smart lady detective. He'd be like, fucking. I mean, Pablo Schreiber, too. I thought they were well, because Berthal's so masculine. You're like, he's going to be more macho than him. I thought Pablo was up to the channel. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I agree. That was good. And you knew he was going to have some sort of arc because you're like, Yeah, it's kind of too big of casting. So you can kind of call it with the casting. You're like, yeah, you've been in some movies, bro. Like something's going to happen with you here. So I was always like, this.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. Yeah, bro. Makes me terrified to have kids. Hey, do you remember, I knew you were, my wife confirmed this. I knew Strider had something big going on in his life because I could see it in his shoulders when he went to get his second beer when we saw anaconda.
Starting point is 00:45:59 He's so funny. You know me so well. me so well yeah I was like dealing with wow I go I went home and I go honey Shiter something's going on in his life something big I could do he just there's something going on I saw him in his neck and his shoulders and then like a week later because you know what it was the best thing possible yes I was so I was like this is amazing yeah but it was funny I was like I was like I right when I found I was like I know what I know but we were at one of those points where like two day we were two days
Starting point is 00:46:25 away from like results of genetic testing and like you'll go through this when you have a kid anyone you go through these hoops of having a kid and it's important information to have but it's like so tough it's like now we test if your kid is like has an eyeball and if your kid's gonna fucking you know be a percentage of like having this thing go on yeah you know and you're like oh my gosh it's terrifying yeah we had overlapping genetic abnormality so there was like yeah that's scary there was a one and four chance one of our kids would have something so like 40% or something overall and like it was like yeah bro we we we did I know what you're talking about we had the same thing man
Starting point is 00:47:00 And it's fucking scary. It's so scary. Yeah. All right. Who's up next with the next hot eat? Do you want to go next? Yeah, I'll go next. I got Hokas from Chad.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Here's my hot take on Hokas. They're not better for your knees. People only wear them to be tall. Whoa. That's huge. Dude, fuck. Not expecting that take. I mean, I wear them their
Starting point is 00:47:32 fine on my knees but I don't know I like that extra edge is that what people say if people say they wear them because the softness of the shoe is better for the knee that's what they say that's that's the selling point because if you said it was just to give you height you would be you know you might be kicked out of town who knows what would happen to you yeah because they don't need that much foam to achieve that much softness I mean I'm not an orthopedias I would almost imagine less shoe is probably better for your knees and hips. Yeah, like we're trying to build strength or like just create comfort for someone who has an issue already. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:14 That's a good question. You know? Yeah. So is more patting actually hurting you because it's getting your body used to not working. Mm-hmm. And I would say no matter the height of the male, they're always going to want more inches. Yeah. They always going to want more.
Starting point is 00:48:29 They almost think of brand it like, Hoka, we'll get you on that roller. coaster. That's very good. That's very good. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And when I was in high school, I was tiny. I think you meant for adults, too. Like a 45-year-old guy's like, yeah, I want to go.
Starting point is 00:48:45 No, that is what I meant. I want to get on the spin rider. Yeah, yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on. Let me on, man. I haven't been able to ride this my whole life.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Hey, dude, you should wear some hokas. It's like 48 inches. I changed my life. I got it. I got on the teacups, finally. That's a phone. That's a good take. Dude, and I'm actually worried, I think they keep expanding the, the, how big they're making the heel.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I think by the time we're in like our 60s, there's going to be like five inch heels. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Men are going to be a stilettos. Unless the government comes in and just regulates such shit. That's true, because RFK might come in and be like, look, this is fucking going to hurt, you know, your forward momentum. It's going to really, for plyometrics.
Starting point is 00:49:32 We've been looking at the shoe designs. It's gotten to a point now where the composites are destroying young men's knees that have never been worse. And so it's up to us to put a stop to it and bring us back to normal shoes. That's a good fucking RFK, it is. That's a good RFK, bro. Senator, you yourself funded a study that since 2007. it. Dude,
Starting point is 00:50:02 it's got to be a prank on society. Like, I don't know, man. Are billionaire just laughing that this is the head of health the dude that talks like this? Like,
Starting point is 00:50:10 like, it's unbelievable, dude. But then the person before him was like a fat lady with like blue hair. So it's like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:50:17 fuck. Yeah. Can't we just get like a fucking, can't we just get a fucking, former Olympian to do it? Like, like, just get Michael Phelps or Dolphrine.
Starting point is 00:50:30 London like give him the position Ryan Locked he needs a job yeah Michael Michael Jordan somebody dude that's
Starting point is 00:50:39 any 13th dude off the bench for any division to basketball teams should be doing that job you know it would be funny they're like our new head of health
Starting point is 00:50:48 Larry Bird yeah oh my dad love Larry legend throw his back farming dude yeah yeah Um, JT sent me
Starting point is 00:51:02 BBLs. What's my hot take on the BBL? I'm gonna say it. Yeah. So the BBL, you know, you're taking fat from other parts of your body and you're putting in your ass, right? But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:51:17 When you don't have healthy, when you're just stuffing fat in there, the tissue, the fat dies. You can't, you can't just stuff shit in there. It's just, it's so they literally smell like trash. Whoa. BBLs are stinky. Really? I don't know for sure, but that's the reputation.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah, here's my hot take. BBL stink. BBL stink not because of the function of the ass. It's the whole thing you got going on. It's what you're putting in there. And it's also limited function. Ladies can't, you know, it's tough to, you know, like bodybuilders, they can't wipe their ass.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Same with the BBL. You know, it's like trying, it's like trying to wipe the Grand Canyon. You can't get it at all. No. It doesn't pass the smell test. Yeah. Dude, when I went to a community college in New York City, some of the chicks in my class were telling me one time that,
Starting point is 00:52:17 not them, but other girls were doing pumping parties where they'd all get together and dude would come over with like Home Depot supplies. Oh, yeah, man. Pump their asses full of like stuff. Yeah. One of the girls ended up doing like a report about it and like our speech. It was crazy. I've heard of that.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I've heard of that. Yeah, man. Yeah, see, a big BB, like, how are you going to wipe that? It's true. Yeah. Oh yeah, does it mess up wiping too? Yeah. Look, I mean, Jake has something pulled up out.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I'm not sure if you can see it. But it's a huge ass. Gracie Bond. Yeah, Gracie Bond. Yeah, Gracie Bond. Fuck, man. I mean, she needs a face. She needs a fire hose bidet.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Oh my God. Yeah, you can't wipe that. You know what, though? I am curious. It would be fun to just go. Yeah. Diving. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah, don't you just want to bury your face in there and just see what's up? Yeah. But then if it stunk. Yeah. Like not like normal butt stink, but like necrotizing fat. Yeah. Yeah, necrosis. Yeah, it's literally like, like, it's like putting a dumpster on your, on your body.
Starting point is 00:53:38 It's only good for being online. That's the thing. It's an online thing. It's a weird person. Yes, yes. It's not natural. It's only something that is, it's meant for the screen. We should do something where if like we do a bet between the three of us and whoever loses has to get the BBL.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Yeah. Just like Jake's hero, Drake. Yeah, bro, should get BBLs. And he's, St. Drake has one, really? Oh, yeah. And here's another hot take. Cream Jeans just inspired me. He said we can do BBLs but not fix men's small dongs.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Here's my other hot take. If women get to do BBLs, men get to enlarge their dongs. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I don't want to hear anything about it. You know, I'm taking my calf and putting it in my dick.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And there should be some sort of yoga pant that can highlight my stiffy. Men should be allowed to walk around in an athlete, a leisure with a full stiffy. And that should be socially acceptable. And I'll, I'll do you one more player. You know, Skims
Starting point is 00:54:42 has the fake nipple. Men should have yoga shorts that have just a huge fake bulge. And not just like, kind of like you're wearing a cup, I'm talking about the full outline like the balls, the shaft, and the bell end.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yes. And there's an option if you want to be uncircumcised. You don't want to, you know. It's fine. Yeah. Pick and choose. Whatever it will suit you. I love that.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Dudes, you guys really got my brain cook in there. On when did it become inappropriate to have a boner in public? Uh-huh. And it seems like it wasn't until the Victorian. era in the 19th century. Wow. When polite society was like, hey, you can't just be stiff in front of everybody. Really?
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. It's so wrong. It's not that long ago. Wow. No, yeah, yeah. Why is that? You would think there's progress, you know? You'd think we'd progress.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah. We got to go back to that. So in like the Renaissance, you'd see like Da Vinci just with a boner? Shouldn't it be celebrated? Oh, hey, guys. I have a boner right now. I didn't even do anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It seems like there was some shifting beliefs around it then because the church was getting pretty strong. Like Thomas Aquinas was saying sexual desire was shameful, but they also had a lot of public bathing and stuff like that. So there was still so much nudity that you were going to see it and no one was like thinking twice about it. You're going to get a boner. If you're young and you're bathing in public and you look over
Starting point is 00:56:23 and there's this fucking BBL, you're going to get a bonner. Yeah. There's no question about it. may imagine no i'm gonna say no i'm excited to hear this no you don't want to hear it no we do brother come on
Starting point is 00:56:38 imagine bush in the dark ages yeah no wonder they had yeah yeah yeah massive huge like bigger like probably like popped out yeah what you like and it was amazing it was such a sight to behold
Starting point is 00:56:57 why do you think Gothic architecture exists. Let me build these structures with these stained glass windows to emulate heaven coming down so when you enter this realm, you are in touch with God. This architecture is meant to invoke
Starting point is 00:57:12 stepping into the heavens and the power of the Almighty. They were competing with going to the tavern paying a woman a pince or two and seeing Bush. Oh yeah. It's true.
Starting point is 00:57:28 That's, you know, man tried to make God's cathedral when really it was there the whole time. God already made it from Adam's rib. And on the eighth day, he created bush. Mm-hmm. Correct. Lissareen, baby. Yahweh, bro. It was a burning bush.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Oh, yeah. Think about that. Oh, wow. Yeah, God is a burning bush. Mm-hmm. Why is he burning, though? I don't know. Fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Pyrotechnics are always legit. I mean, I'm not going to not use pyrotechnics. Yeah, that's true. Dude, what is? This fire is pretty safe. Fire's tight, dude. In an ancient world, fire is kind of tough to come by. I don't know if this is sacrilege, but what if, like, someone was like, dude, I literally
Starting point is 00:58:25 I just spoke to God. And they're like, where, where did you speak to him? I'm like, dude, like in this chick's bush. Yeah. Probably depends on the guy, but I'd be curious. I'd want to hear what comes next for sure. Yeah, yeah. If it was like a really like...
Starting point is 00:58:48 Sounds like the priest I went to junior highway. I'm talking like a wholesome guy, you know, like you know, if it was Nate Bargatti. Yeah. I'm going to need him to sleep on it. I mean, hey, hey, go to sleep tonight and let me tell. Just write it down for me. Tell me in the morning.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I wonder if he'd feel compelled to lie, you know? Yeah. Like, where'd you see? He'd be like, there's a stop sign. Like, you saw it in a stop sign. He's like, it doesn't matter. It matters when he said. I'm like, why he'd be weird?
Starting point is 00:59:19 He's like, I saw it in a bush. I'm like a bush. Like a chick's bush. I was going down on this seventh that I met at a bar after we watched the Packers game. And I saw a gone in her bush. His whole thing is just to slowly get dudes on board with this story.
Starting point is 00:59:35 All right, all right, all right. After that, there was like two for one special on beer. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, you're just down there. You're just, you know, going to town. There's all, oh, whoa. And then he's like, strider, I need you to free my people.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Let my people go. Let my people go. I would do it, dude. Yeah, and it's all chicks with bushes. That's who needs to be saved. Yeah. Or freed, rather. Good call.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I'd watch that movie. Me too. What do you think of the title would be, The Bush? Yeah, the Lord of Bushwick. Oh, I like that. I like that. Or maybe it'd be her name. Her name would be like,
Starting point is 01:00:24 it'd be Peggy Bush. Peggy Bush or Allison. Allison's a pretty name. I like that name, yeah. Yeah. All right, Sean, you're up. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:43 You guys sent me, I forget who sent me poker. I think I did. JT. sent me poker. Poker is only good in movies. That is a hot take. Real life poker.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You invite me to poker night? No one's having fun. One or two dudes are having fun. everyone else is getting ripped off. It's a bad time. In movies, you have Maverick. Fun. Casino Real. Sexy.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You know, martini stirred, not chicken. Rounders, I sneakies in you, fun, cool, underground. In real life, it's just divorced dudes hanging out. In fact, the better, the more divorces you've had, the better you are at poker.
Starting point is 01:01:35 But you know what's interesting is you love gambling and you like table games. I do. I enjoy them, but I'm not good at that. And poker's a little bit different because it's about taking money from someone else's pocket and putting it in your pocket.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Table games... Is that what buzz you about it? Maybe. I just think it's like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe just the poker stars aren't rock and roll enough for me. it's like a dude with indigestion is the best or like a teenager with like ADHD and bleached hair and they're like the best at it.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It's not relatable. I hear you on that. But I like it in a Western. When we started playing poker tournaments in high school, Greg Raymer had just won the World Series of poker. Who's that? How many times has he been divorced? No, because I think you'll remember when he's CMJ.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Can you pull up a photo of Greg Raymer? Does he wear the shades? Yeah, him and Chris Money. They both wear the shades. Chris Moneymaker. Yeah, I know that. That's kind of cool. And Raymerhead was a dinosaur guy.
Starting point is 01:02:43 He had like dinosaurs on his, on the table with him. But he's not like a badass looking guy. It's what I'm saying. That's James Bond. There's James Bond, dude. I like this guy. Can you imagine playing against him? He's a genius.
Starting point is 01:03:02 He's like, oh yeah, five's and nines. Like, I'm holding fives and nines. No one's going to guess that. Are you seeing, are you looking at Greg Raymer? Yeah. I'm looking at him, yeah. Do you see his glasses? Yeah, they're amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:12 That's like cheating, though. Fuck that. Did you have fun at Ferraro's tournament? No. The worst experience ever. Yeah, I hated that. Pav was there. Pav was there, dude.
Starting point is 01:03:26 It was an old nerd. Rod was there. You did well. Yeah, you dominated. Rod was there. It was the most uncool guys. I was like, these are... Well, they're going to listen to them, dude.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Let's just eat pizza. Yeah. I don't know. my take. My take, I guess to make it concise and salient in my log line of my take is poker,
Starting point is 01:03:51 yeah, poker in real life sucks. And the only way you're good at it is just if you've been divorced multiple times. Because you know what you're anying up with. You've got real life stakes.
Starting point is 01:04:11 You know, that's your, that's your estranged kids. Dude, yeah. To go all in when you don't have the cards, only someone who's lost real big and real life is willing to do that move. Correct. It's a good take.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Poker in the Wild West. But in movies, very sick. We did our short film in high school about poker. Remember JT with Pink Floyd? I wasn't in your guys' group, but you guys did an amazing job on the editing. No, but JT came in, he was a dominating filmmaker. He came, he's like, he just said, we have to direct it.
Starting point is 01:04:45 You directed like the main scene. Also, I shaved my head halfway through the film, so my character. Oh, really? Unexplicably. Had long hair in the beginning and then nowhere at the end of the movie. That wasn't part of the movie? You just shaved it for the number. It did in real life, and it was just scheduling.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Just the continuity. And the teacher was like, okay. We'll overlook that. That's hilarious. It's just halfway throughout the movie. You guys had some great montages. Yeah, the montage was sick. That's really fun.
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Starting point is 01:07:17 Call She. We make bets. You've been watching movies? Do you mean the lady we watched, I've been watching The Wire a lot, but me and the lady watched Startup, this British prison movie. One of my favorite movies ever. It was sick, too, because she loved it.
Starting point is 01:07:33 So that fired me up. I was like, dude, she gets it. But yeah, I would recommend that to all the Stoker's startup. I think it's an impossible movie to dislike. It's so badass. It's so well like written and just like there's no fat on it and it's just
Starting point is 01:07:49 it'll shoot you out of a can. Have you seen it? I don't think so. When did it come out? Maybe like 2017 or something like that. What's it called? Startup. Start up. Oh, start up. Okay. Yeah, I think you'll love it, dude. It's so sick. Oh, 2013. Damn. I don't like being off that.
Starting point is 01:08:07 But it's really cool. And acting sick and it's it's really, really good. It's British? Yeah. Yeah, the consensus on Rout and Tomatoes is funny because it's like puts itself up there with the best British prison movies. I'm like, is that like a huge subset of movies? But then I was thinking about it, I was like, yeah, there is like in the name of the father.
Starting point is 01:08:28 That one's a pretty good British prison movie. I'm sure Michael Keynes got one. But yeah, I watched that and then just been watching The Wire. But, dude, mostly just sleeping, bro. It's been awful. Really? This is like the most fun I've had in different. I've just been dying to like go do stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, it sounds brutal. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, being sick sucks. Just sipping pediolite. And didn't eat for two days, so hopefully I cut some fat. But didn't lose any muscle. What have you been up to? Do you watch anything good?
Starting point is 01:09:03 Oh, you watched Free Solo. I've been watching Free Solo. I watched No Time to Die. I think the last James Bond. He isn't bone enough in that one. No. No. Him and,
Starting point is 01:09:14 what's the main actress's name? She's great from Knives Out. Anadamus? Anadamus. Oh, yeah. They look at each other and like, excellent. Yeah, they have like a platonic professional relationship. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You were excellent. So are you. I'm like, no. In a James Bond movie. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, no, he's got a boner. Yeah, you guys need to fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I was in the theater with my brother and I got mad. I go, I turn him, I was like, are they not going to fuck? Yeah. I was like, relax. And I was like, no, dude. I don't fucking come to James Bond movies to watch him fucking. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 It would be courteous and respectful. Yeah, bro. I bet he was pissed when he read that. Yeah. Is Gandalf and Lord of the Rings seem to be like, I don't know if I should use a spell right now? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:59 What kind of message does that sign if I'm always using spells? Yeah. When sometimes I don't need to. Exactly. I don't know. Gandalf. Dan O'Krague's like, so who are we casting in this one? Anna Day Armis? I don't see.
Starting point is 01:10:12 the scene where I bone her. Yeah, what is what's going on? Oh, we're taking a new direction with this one. Dude, you want to know what's funny? Yeah, you become friends with her husband. You guys golf and stuff. Dude, one of the times I got one of the most sideways looks from my wife was
Starting point is 01:10:28 before Anna to Armis was famous, my wife used to go to the same day spa as her at the Korean spa where all the ladies are naked together and my wife was like, oh yeah, Anna-Darmers, I used to see her at the K-ball all the time. And I like, without checking my brain, I was like, whoa she hot to my wife and she was like what the fuck yeah I was like so what do you want for
Starting point is 01:10:52 dinner yeah you got a pivot yeah exactly so I was thinking we did we did we did we did we did Mexican the other night so I'm thinking we just get a pizza like she's too mellow tonight what's your favorite meal let's get your favorite meal tonight let's do that but but dude I just try you got to find out no I've been trying to find out yeah every time dude every time she's the happy I I give her a back massage and a foot massage, and the whole time I'm like, what's what's going on down there? How's your massage technique?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Mine? So the back, I like to use as far spread out as my hand as I can and get as many different points as I can. Foot, thumbs, kneading on the foot. Wow. Foot kneading back, surface area. It's nice.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Yeah. All right, my heart's, take on deep voices is this. If you have a deep voice, you're not a good fighter. Deep voice is an evolutionary mask for not being tough. It's like a small animal that can yell loudly or that can like, you know, fan out. It's just a complete perception trick. Conversely, if you have a high-pitched voice, you're probably a straight freaking killer.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah. Tyson, case and point. A lot of UFC guys. Like Daniel Kornay just sounds like a sweet, upbeat guy. Absolute monster when he gets into cage, dude. Mallor. Mike Tyson, the ultimate. You see it in football too sometimes.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Like just a big behemoth. And then he gets on the mic and he said, we had a really good game out there. And you're like, oh, nice, dude. And then, yeah, you hear, you're, great radio voice and then you see the guy and you're like oh you're like a regular looking joe filope you're like harry sheer all-time great exactly yeah so funny yeah i like this take bro i like this tick it's a um yeah it's an innate device from nature defense mechanism akin to a chameleon
Starting point is 01:13:03 be able to blend in or one of those like dinosaurs that goes like shoots the thing out and and wards off the enemy, hoping that you will seek to, you know, live and fight another day. But yeah, if actually tested in combat, a dude with a deep voice will get fucked on. Yeah, think about it, dude. If you hear a guy be like,
Starting point is 01:13:29 y'all will kill you. It honestly doesn't throw me out. I kind of expect it. But if I hear a guy be like, I'm going to end you, I'm scared. Mm-hmm. It's kind of why clowns are scary.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Well, and then the guy with the deep voice, if he's around the corner, he's like, eh, if you come over here and you're dead, the person doesn't come over. So that person never learns how to fight. But the high-pitched guy's like, if you come over here, I'm going to kill you. That guy's got to learn how to fight. His bloodline has to learn how to fight because they're always coming around the bed. Yeah, yeah. That's just science, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Yeah. I mean, I don't know, but I believe it. That's huge. Chad, you're up, dog. All right. Strader sent me crate. crate I just send you guys
Starting point is 01:14:20 random shit but here's my hot take from this crate Donkey Kong didn't live up to its potential whoa Donkey Kong is one of the most underrated
Starting point is 01:14:37 and I guess I was thinking Donkey Kong is barrels I'm realizing that now he wasn't throwing crates but you're cooking I love this. Donkey Kong is one of the most underrated video game franchises out there. Donkey Kong could have been Mario.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I was going to say, is Donkey Kong the video game better than Super Mario? Yes. He has sold himself short, though, because he was in Mario Kart. He kind of sold out to the Mario franchise. Exactly. He got usurped. Exactly. Mario was a little bit more sneaky.
Starting point is 01:15:14 and knew how to play the game Donkey Kong you know he had mind carts he had bananas I think I think his brand felt boxed in by the guerrillness
Starting point is 01:15:30 and he didn't venture into you know other things Donkey Kong in space Donkey Kong basketball Donkey Kong tennis it was all taken over by Mario yeah
Starting point is 01:15:44 That's a great tick. It's almost like he wasn't like relatable enough. Like we, Mario, like, oh, he's trying to get the princess. He's probably in love with her. Yeah. She's a little out of his league. That's really sweet. With Donkey Kong, you're like, what does this guy even like? Yeah, but I think that's the thing is like Donkey Kong. He's technically our dad. Right? Yeah, yeah. Because we evolve from. Yeah. Donkeys. Oh, wait. We evolved from Kongs. We evolved from apes, right? And so he could be like, look, I have the same instincts, the same fears, the same desires as you. You know, I want to bang this, you know, Miss Kong. Yeah. I want to, you know, I want to have the best mind card out there. I want to be able to provide so many bananas for my family. That's my take. I love it.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I'm almost thinking Donkey Kong had like a Kevin Durant kind of career. Yeah. Like should have been the lead dog on a bunch of championship teams, but just kind of got like, you know, filtered into someone else's star system. Yeah. And you know what? I think this plays into your last hot take. Maybe his dong was too big. He didn't want it. Yeah. Mario had a little one. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Mario's got the fattest cock in that whole family. Oh, big pudgy fat. Yeah. Like bulbous, like parts of it are just sticking out. Like they got Mario. marbles under the skin. It's just a vein.
Starting point is 01:17:14 You don't even see the cock. It's just a vein. It's purple. Yeah. And Luigi, also small, skinny dick. Oh, yeah. Mario's just short fat. Short fat cock.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Mm-hmm. And Luigi, Luigi, Luigi, even has it tougher because his has no girth. Yeah. But Mario is the only one in the Epstein files. Mario has definitely been named. He was all over that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Yeah. Yeah, he's all... He loves pizza. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Mario... Pretty disturbing stuff, Mario's emails. Hey, Jeffrey, is Samia. Peaches in the bunch of land.
Starting point is 01:18:01 I want to come see you on your island. Dude, I was thinking of your joke about some guy was on the island, because he just wanted to go banana boating. He's like, fuck, man. I didn't know. I just wanted a banana boat. You know, I just saw a clip that Oh, he said,
Starting point is 01:18:19 oh, he's funny did a similar joke. Oh, really? Frank says he goes for the snorkeling. But yeah, same idea where, yeah. Just as someone who likes to vacation, I was like, oh, man, I mentioned there's some guys
Starting point is 01:18:28 who just, like us, like guys who just like to have fun and would be like, what? You want to take me to your island? Hell yeah, man. You wouldn't do that stuff with us because you know we just wouldn't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yeah. And then we get put in this big download of files. And you're like, oh, shit. And there was like probably an off weekend at the island where it's like, look, we're not human trafficking this weekend. Like this weekend we're like just enjoying the weather. Yeah, you wouldn't want to do that. We're going to zip line this weekend.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Dude, do you use it on the zip line at Epstein's Island? Yeah. Yeah, if you're a smart criminal, like every once in a while, you're going to invite an official plus some chill bros to be like, this is what we do here. That temple was already here. Don't worry about that. I don't know. That's the ancient culture that Columbus destroyed, but even though it was like made in the 60s.
Starting point is 01:19:14 But yeah, yeah, you can't be using it for the same purposes every weekend. Yeah, because even like my parents party, but then they had friends who would come on trips to this. You didn't party and then you just wouldn't party on those trips. Yeah. Because you're like, well, they don't do it on purpose. You know, like recover. Yeah, you want to break. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah. They weren't doing stuff like that, but the idea is the same. Yeah. Correct. All right. Strider, you're up. All right, dude, speaking of this,
Starting point is 01:19:40 this lends itself to my next hot take. Chad, you sent me Disneyland. Yeah. You're very fond of Disneyland. Walt Disney, dollars adjusted, would have been a billionaire in today's dollars. He, I think, is the last billionaire
Starting point is 01:19:58 who will make a theme park for children. I think today's billionaires, if they were to have made a theme park, theme park for children it would be utter disasters you imagine you imagine you imagine Bezos be like yeah we take a drone and we just drop you here or Elon he'd be pretty cool it's cool see because it's electric car it takes you take you to it's pretty neat you see because because nobody nobody it's completely funded by the government you see everything we're doing it the jobs
Starting point is 01:20:36 that we've taken we put people are now working in the park so you see it's perfectly sustained it was optimal Trump would just be I don't even know I don't even know what Trump's would be yeah it'd be the best and you'd get there and it'd be a pretty rough time yeah the billionaires of today have lost their whimsy there's no more whimsy I'd also be super suspicious if a billionaire started like a theme park for kids I'd be like what the hell yeah I'd be like we gotta go get them on pitch forks what the it's kind the oddest thing of all time. It is.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Yeah. I guess Walt, it's a little bit of a tough comparison because like he came up in that. Yeah, he made his bones doing that. Yeah. It's a weird. It's a weird. That's his essence. But it might not be as weird if you start there.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's his essence. So it's tough take. But still weird. Still odd. I mean, the fact that he did the Mickey voice,
Starting point is 01:21:25 Boel, Walt Disney did that. Like, imagine him like a guy smoking Sigs and eating a fucking prime rib for lunch. Yeah. It was like, after lunch, I got to go do this voice. he's like to his wife he's like listen to this she's like kind of a boner killer why are you doing that the kids love it yeah kind of a boner killer
Starting point is 01:21:47 well well this voice put this roof above your head yeah do you like these fucking lights on at night do you like these lights yeah that voice made these lights turn on so shut up yeah he mostly got his ass kicked growing up yeah yeah yeah if you had a buddy who's trying to do like cartoon voices and was talking about building a like a fun gymnasium for kids i'd be like yeah yeah bro you could be the most it depends on the person like if chat honestly if you had those ideas i'd be like i think i'd actually be pretty supportive i'd be like because i i would trust you weren't oh thanks another hot take is uh yeah that's a great college at you just nailed that the fucking nail
Starting point is 01:22:27 nail on the head because how hard is it to pitch something nice for kids nowadays yeah the kids can come and out and just be themselves and like there'll be some supervision with people I know it's like no you can get the fuck out of here I don't trust you yeah when we when we first got wrapped I'd be like what do you guys want to make I'm like I'd love to do a talk show and kids and everyone always gave me a kind of weird eyeball then milaney did that malaney literally did the exact thing yeah it's like sesame street what the what the what mr. Rogers what are mr. Rogers what are we talking about Rogers, I know. But you've got to be a real clean spirit to do it.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yeah. And I think people are still suspicious to those guys. Also, when you pitched it, JT, didn't you like pitch it in between vaporips? You were like, I don't know. I think I might fucking like talk show with kids or something like that, you know. And they're like, yeah, I probably would buttress. I'd be like, maybe that I'd be like, yeah, I was like addicted to Adderall. I had like a black camp porn problem.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And then like five minutes later, they're like, what do you want to do in like a talk show? Yeah. They're like, yeah, I don't know. Did you, they say email. I want to do a talk show with kids, just public? And you're like, look, it's not how it looks. I just, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just find it so profound when a kid has a profound take.
Starting point is 01:23:43 You know what I mean? Like when a kid says something smart, it feels so like universally true that it just goes deeper. And I was like, I'd be cool to just make those moments happen. But, you know, I actually wouldn't want to do it now. probably because I have kids now so I'm like I get enough of that juice is there a billionaire that you guys know of that could make a sick theme park oh good question
Starting point is 01:24:05 Richard Branson would seem like you would do a good job right yeah and he does virgin he does the virgin cruise ships are those good cruises I from what I've heard I trust his park but I feel like his park I don't know he he'd make a park about like his theme park would be about like getting pussy that's what I mean it's not for the kids yeah it's not for the kids yeah yeah that's true it's not for the kids um
Starting point is 01:24:32 who oh mr beast oh yeah mr beast could do it yeah but how do we trust him he doesn't have the warmth of Walt he'd like challenge the kids he might be doing it isn't he doing one you know you know oh you know who is
Starting point is 01:24:49 Nate Bargatsy is really is Naiparwak Gotts he really making a theme park for kids? I think. Oh. He's going to be Walt Disney? I don't know. He's going to be for Disney.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Let me see. Yeah, they're all for kids. Who's the most wholesome entertainer out there right now? He's up there. Wholesome. Not the rock. He tries. No.
Starting point is 01:25:10 He's someone I just, but he's inaccessible. Yeah, it's Nate Land. It's like a product. That's crazy, dude. He's just going to have like a huge swath of land with his name on it that people go like enjoy. is it where is it in in Tennessee yeah
Starting point is 01:25:27 you know the most wholesome ones are probably female performers like Leanne Morgan yeah to be a lady that does it JT great call it should be like a lady like Leanne Morgan or who else is like kind of there's a reason babysitters are like the girl that lives across the street not the dude it's just how it is dude comes over hangs out with the babysitter All right, who's up?
Starting point is 01:26:00 Who just went? I did. J.T. I'm up. All right. For my last one, Chad sent me Taylor Swift. Here's my hot take on Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:26:17 For my money, she is the most singular entertainer of the 21st century. She has been relevant for 25 years. she's had an incredible evolution. She has a remarkable catalog of music and her ability to direct her own career and with it, an entire nation of people
Starting point is 01:26:46 is second to none, but she will not be remembered. Whoa. I think her glory is now, and it is peak, but I think a thousand years from now, more people will remember real housewives of Beverly Hills than remember Taylor Swift. Wow. Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:27:07 Yes. I think there is something, um, shit. Very much like of the moment with Taylor Swift and with real housewives, I think there is something that is transcendent in a Shakespeare way. Yeah, but will real housewives be a chapter in reality television? Will it be reality television? That is, I agree with that. I think reality television will surpass.
Starting point is 01:27:37 If it comes down to like, if history remains in this kind of like great man or woman kind of framing, I think it'll be like Andy Cohen. Wow. I wonder, I wonder, and maybe it might just be because I just don't listen to a lot of Taylor Swift music. But is her, like, you still. hear Billy Jean all the time, right? Yeah. Are we going to, I don't know, I don't know if you hear Taylor Swift songs all the time. Am I wrong? I would say her top hits are not as ubiquitous as other, like, icons. Yeah. Like, I, um, but oddly, I don't think you hear that many Beatles songs either, like with the regularity that you might hear, like Michael Jackson or a, even like
Starting point is 01:28:32 a Nirvana or something like that. Like, I think you actually hear their hits more. Yeah. But I think for a couple of reasons, Taylor Swift will just not survive the test of time. But that's not to take away from how great she is. I think she's phenomenal. She is, like, 1989 for me and, like, folklore are like seminal albums. I listen to her music all the time, and I pay a ton of attention to.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I think she's amazing. But I don't think 500 years from now, it'll be in the history books. I think you're scared. You've got to look at 50 years from now. Because I think 500 years from now, none of it will be there. I think that it's too far. Because you go Beatles, 50 years ago. More, right?
Starting point is 01:29:27 And, of course, everyone knows the name, the Beatles. I would be interested to have a person in their 20s on right now and challenge them to name. And obviously there's a cool kid who knows them, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you have like 10 kids on or whatever. And if they can name the Beatles songs or name the tailors, like so 50 years from now will a 20-year-old be able to name 10 Taylor songs? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Who will be? I think the Beatles are 60 years now. Like I think that's what I mean. It's like, I'm just saying 50 is a number, but I know it's a little more. But like, who will be the, who will be the band, who will be the musician from right now who's like the biggest moment? And by right now, I mean contemporary. Yeah. Millennium forward, 21st century.
Starting point is 01:30:15 That at the turn of the century is going to be sick. No one from the 20s was big in the 90s. That was gone. I have like three parts of that. I somewhat disagree. One, I think some people will be remembered, right? Because, like, we remember Shakespeare. Remember there's Dizzy Jelepsie.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Volunteer. We remember. I guess if we're speaking specific to music, we remember Mozart. Remember Beethoven. That's true. Some people make it through. Yes. And are representative of that time.
Starting point is 01:30:43 And I think, oddly, I heard Derek Thompson do a podcast on this, we're like one of the only periods of time where, like, our parents didn't listen to their parents' music. But a lot of our defining bands, like, your favorite bands are probably your parents' favorite bands. Yeah, I like the classics. Yeah. You're right. Classic music, or classic rock, yeah. And they use that as a way to point to like some kind of cultural stagnation. And maybe I'm using that to buttress my point.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Maybe I'm saying we're in a kind of like echo of previous art. And it's emblematic of how we haven't moved forward. And maybe that's part of the reason Taylor won't transcend. Can I tell you? I think you're onto something even more. I think even politically, socioeconomically, I think we haven't moved forward in any facet of society. stagnation. I could say we're in a grand stagnation.
Starting point is 01:31:31 And I think it's the generation our parents and slightly above are holding on with their dying breath, despite quote unquote loving their offspring. They're holding on with their dying breath to power and to relevance. And it's hurting the younger generation. It's hurting culture on every level. And most importantly, they're holding on to the equity. That's what I'm saying. They got the stocks and they got the houses.
Starting point is 01:32:01 And we're going paycheck to paycheck. Brother. And then as the dollar depreciates, their stuff goes up. And our stuff gets... It's not wrong. And there's going to be that movie with Tom Cruise and when they go west in Oklahoma and they have to race for the land. Brother, far and away.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Far and away. When, and it will be a sad day because I want them to live because I love them. But when our millennial parents die the boomers, there will be a grand rate. There will be changes of business. It will be like the Wild West for a little bit, and I'm calling it now. And it's going to be insane. But you just got to map where you want to go. Businesses are going to go over.
Starting point is 01:32:38 And will we have the skill sets to manage those small businesses? When dad's plumbing company goes down, who's going to step in and own it? It's going to be a big corporation that's going to come in, fucking buy it, gone. Oh. It's going to be... So that's what you're saying is that like that when they die off the... there's big corporations are going to swallow them up yep because they'll just hire someone who can learn something or they have the they have the ability the money the time right there'll be to to
Starting point is 01:33:06 to train yeah that'll that'll make it available to outside the family a thousand percent it will or or full far away and then the family and the family will get paid a little bit of a money a sum and it'll be a quick payday and it's human nature to be like that's a pretty nice sum let me just take that and no shame on the person for doing that. So do you think boomers are the most narcissistic generation? I would say I don't think it's innate narcissism or something that's like they chose to do that, but it's something with the legislature and the way the country was built and now in their position, it behooves them to be narcissistic.
Starting point is 01:33:48 It's just, it's the smart choice. It's the smart choice. And they can't go against that. Yeah. And I think we would have done the same thing in the same spot. For sure. And why wouldn't you? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I mean, like without getting too into the weeds here, but like if you look at Prop 13, like anybody bought a house before like 1977 doesn't have to pay an increase in property tax for the rest of their life as long as they stay in that house, which takes away a ton of like tax money for everybody else in the city that comes after that and basically keeps this person in their house forever. But what does that do to everybody else? It makes all the other house is expensive. It makes your tax is more expensive.
Starting point is 01:34:25 So it's like there is like legit policy that made it better to be born at a certain time. Totally. And then you go and then they put measures on bills to vote on. And we need money to run the city and quote unquote help some people whether you believe we should or not. But it's like the money's got to come from somewhere. And then everyone moans, can you believe how expensive parking meters are? I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 01:34:51 They got to get the money somehow. What if far and away the new version is it's Mars and you got to go out there in a rover with a steel suit on and go plant a flag on what your piece of Mars is going to be. What do you see that'd be pretty cool because we'd be in Mars, right? But we take a Falcon rocket. We land, right? But total recall. Pretty three titties. Right, Mars. It's my Elon talking about that movie, dude. It's very good. It's a good Elon. I want to try one. Do you want to try an Elon? You did a great RFK. That's why I'm doing my Elon. We try my ego. Let me try my ego. Give me a second. Yeah, I was going to say, you need to talk about something.
Starting point is 01:35:27 You need to talk about, like, you need to talk about the best Sufi spot you ever had. Or no, that's not exciting. No, no, that's good. That's good. I think the thing that people misunderstand about a good, good Toro, is that if you go to a good person, like a, like, a, like, Siatsu Natumoto, like, the way he does Torah, right, is like, it's, like, it's, like, so crazy. Like, his Torah is, like, so, it's so, it's so crazy. Like, a lot of people don't get it, right?
Starting point is 01:35:51 A lot of people, like, they just want their tore over, like, some soy sauce. It's, like, so boring. But, like, the way, I'm sorry. I almost had something there. You know who does the best Elon is Kyle Dunning. Oh, yeah. Fahim does a good one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Oh, yeah, Fahim. Oh, yeah. Oh, he did a great Elon on your pod. Oh, yeah. He's a fucking talent, man, that guy. All right, Chuck. You're up, dude. Can I try an Elon?
Starting point is 01:36:15 Yeah, please, no. Can you give me a subject? Yeah, let's see. Tanning. Easy Rider. Oh. Easy writer. He used the thing with easy rideer.
Starting point is 01:36:28 That's pretty good. That's good. Go, go, go. It's the production. The production is the toughest. When you make a, it's not just making the beer. It's making the can. And when you make the can, it's there's a lot, it's a lot tougher than you think, Joe.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Dude, that's good. Honestly, that's probably the most locked in point of view of Elon is like the importance of a can. The cyber truck, how difficult it is to make it. See, that's perfect. Okay. That was fun. My hot take, okay, okay. This is bringing us home too, dude.
Starting point is 01:37:07 This is... Oh, man, this is... I sure is just... This is tough. This is huge. This is tough. will make you want to come when you do this take. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Okay. Okay. 2009. JT. you gave me 2009. I think 2009. I think 2009, I think 2009, I think 2009 was the beginning of this new era we're in. 2008 was the shift.
Starting point is 01:37:52 2008 was the turning point. Because we had the invention of the iPhone. and financial crisis. Which, and that was when things shifted. I think, I think, I think, I think, okay, I think, you know, in the 90s we were in a utopia of sorts. 2001, 9-11, world changed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:23 But things, you know, things started to change. a little bit but but I think one then the financial crisis and then the invention of the iPhone 2008 that's when things went sideways in 2009 was the start of that it's my hot take and so what would you call are we still in that era and what would you call that era the era of fuck yeah I feel like we got to put a happy bow on this thing. I feel like we were... Yes.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Sorry. Because we didn't tell we were going to go at the booms either, at the boomer zone. Well, here's my... I'm just out of my dad. Yeah, my dad. We are stoked. Just love me, dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Okay, my point of view on... It's, you know, right now we're in the era of fuck. But I think as you... Everything is cyclical in history. So I don't think we're going to be stuck in this forever. I think we're going to shift into something else, and that's coming soon. Oh, I think you're just going to say that's coming. That'd be tight.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Oh, the era of coming. The era of coming. We're in the area of fucking right now. Yeah. Which can feel like work. And you know what? We may not have had World War II, but I think we'll be known as one of the strongest generations because we went through COVID.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Yeah, COVID. Hey, you know what? 2008 to COVID, that's a shift. bro, COVID fucked people up, bro. You know what COVID started was the YouTube rabbit hole? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:04 You know much we've all gotten because of COVID? Yeah. Like every me, every one of our bros, we all went down our own rabbit hole and it was all our own thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:40:14 Yeah. And everyone's getting D minuses on what they're reading. Like if you were in eighth grade and like you went in a COVID rabbit hole and you had to explain to your teacher what you read the night before, you'd all fail.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Yeah. You'd all be like, that's not a passing. score. Yeah. Of like, like, you should have to submit to a fucking eighth grade teacher.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Everything you looked at on YouTube, fucking the internet, whatever it was, Reddit, whatever website you went to. And then the teacher would read it. And then you would have to explain the theories, thesis,
Starting point is 01:40:44 thoughts, arguments, commentary based on what you did the night before. And I bet it would be so far off. Yeah. That it's insane. Because that's what happens to me. I fuck shit up.
Starting point is 01:40:56 I read an article. And I paraphrase it. I'll be like, oh, dude, do you see that thing about this? And then J.T., you're really like, hmm, JT does a great face where he goes, hmm. I don't know if that's exactly what that means. Then I go, oh, yeah, fuck, dude, you're so right about that. But I was so-
Starting point is 01:41:10 That's a great call, though, like a conspiracy comprehension program. Dude, yeah, bro. Or like, once a quarter, you have to, like, bring all your new fangled ideas to, like, some kind of vetter. And then they're like, we gave you a D. And you're like, oh, shit. Yeah. And how come it's never like a dude who's like, oh yeah, I own like four or five restaurants in my greater community.
Starting point is 01:41:35 We're expanding out of state next month. That guy never has a conspiracy theory. I actually, I think those guys actually have gone conspiracy. Really? You think they've gone? I think of some of our buddies who are pretty successful guys who have gone down rabbit holes. I think it's kind of, I think that's what's so crazy about COVID is to put everybody at home. And everybody just started like being like.
Starting point is 01:41:56 And then dude, we know. Yeah. And then we have a fucking Epstein file thing now where it's like, like justifies, even though incorrectly conspiracy theories. Like I heard someone being like, yeah, Elon was there like every weekend. And I'm like, actually you wanted to be there, but wasn't. Like you didn't get invited, which is so funny. But it's funny that like that's a bastardized element that I heard today just hanging out.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is crazy. I don't know. Wait, how did we get there? Fucking dude. Dude, Chad.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Dude, 2008, bro. Black-I-P is 2000 and late Oh yeah COVID Yeah It's COVID our World War II Yeah I hope so man
Starting point is 01:42:33 Hopefully we don't get into anything else It was terrible It was terrible But God willing That's the thing But dude Just picture this for a sec You're
Starting point is 01:42:46 A woman in a fucking blazer Yeah Yeah It's D-Day And you're in your Helmet You're in the boat And you're just your face
Starting point is 01:42:53 And then you're your COs, God be with you. You wouldn't be stoked to live that out? If I lived. To be able to be like, dude, I was there. Oh, it would be amazing. Oh, my God. If you're a veteran, but then again,
Starting point is 01:43:16 all those veterans that do live through it, like us, it's terrible. Looking back, we glorify it and fantasize it. Yeah, I know. Because it's so sick. But then once you've done it, you're like, it's almost like stand-up comedy. like dude we've all done stand-up comedy forever and like thinking about you guys now like you guys
Starting point is 01:43:32 headline you're going on the sick tour and it's amazing but like you've earned it and and and when we think about that and as young chat and j t you think about where you're at now and you're like that's gonna be amazing i'm gonna rage i'm gonna go down every water slide backwards it's gonna be so incredible but when you've lived it and earned it and paid the prices of being there you're like no this is just kind of where i need to be and i think that's kind of how those guys feel it but to like the endth degree. It's like, yeah, bro, we did it and I don't talk about it. And you, and look, think about how many comedians we've seen who are
Starting point is 01:44:02 funny or haven't had success or this or that in any way. It's kind of weird that I'm equating, being a comedian to serving in D-Day. It's very comedian of you, though. Yeah, that's very comedian. Yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to be like... When you're up at the mic, and then the crowd's not laughing and you got to make a decision.
Starting point is 01:44:18 You're at war. Think about... You're a war. You're out of soldiers. You're a bunker. And you got no one on your squad. And they got their guns pointed at you. And all you got is you gun but it's your brain. Yeah. And you got to fire everything you got it there. And you got a brand new premise and you never used
Starting point is 01:44:32 it before. And when, dude, Boston in the age? You have laughs Boston. It's incredible. It's a fucking weekend. It's a bunch of HVAC employees. These guys are stressed out guys. The Solid of the Earth guys. And your father is Dooney Madigan? Nobody crushed like Dooney Madigan. You don't do that.
Starting point is 01:44:50 And no one's going to come in here. The host isn't going to save me. This ain't some Georgia's fucking patent coming in here. Now, I'm in the fucking bulge and it's the German offensive against me in the fucking forest of Arden and I got a crush about a new bit how my mother-in-law's in town.
Starting point is 01:45:06 That was great, dude. Good breaths, bro. You can imagine you hear D-Day with Joe and Joe's like Joe's like, I want of you guys to spread out. Five of you guys together that's a juicy target. You got spread out
Starting point is 01:45:21 because that's a waste of ammo. And then Joe, you're like, you know, you're trying to take out like the fucking nest or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah. And Joe's like, we're in business. I'm just like a Tom size. Joe's Tom's size Warren, saving private Ryan.
Starting point is 01:45:36 They do call Joe, they call him the captain at the store. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great name. He is the captain, dude. He's like, who's in charge here? Who's the goddamn CEO? Like, he's so,
Starting point is 01:45:48 how's he going to do laundry or war, though? He's such a, no, he's got his things. He needs an assistant. If you're a captain, I think you get like a runner guy who will help you out. He needs that. You said we need to go take out the M88. No, we're not doing that. Bring me decaf and multi-grand toast. I'm not even meat anymore.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Bring it. Stat. Oh, man. That was fun, guys. I felt like I was there with you guys. It's a testament to our bond. It works. Yeah, this works. I see you. It feels good. Yeah, it didn't feel like awkward. I think we gotta do this every time dude. I think you might need to just yeah. Yeah. Dude, I was sad to missing when I was like I was like I don't know how this is gonna work but I'm glad I got to do this It's been a highlight of my week so thank you. Chad and I had a couple calls were like how do we tell JT we don't feel we don't feel like we're like Very fair we do you text them up like I'm like dude I'm gonna text them because this is true it's how I feel dude and
Starting point is 01:46:49 I'm scared I was uh I was being too willful um thank you for doing that Yeah, but this worked out great. I will feel better. Yeah, bro. Yeah. All right. I'll see you Lord soon. Later, Stoker.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Bye, Jake. Bye, Jake.

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