Going Deep with Chad and JT - Ep. 94 - Shane Gillis, Hawaii 5-0, Mana

Episode Date: September 25, 2019

What up stokers, in this episode we talk about the controversy around the Shane Gillis firing, our epic time in Hawaii on the set of Hawaii 5-0, the power of mana, dank hobbies, and just all around aloha vibes. Mahalo stokers! Check out our t-shirts at www.chadgoesdeep.com

Oh Daddy tickle me up and put me on the glitter stand What's up, Stokers? This is Chad Kroger coming in with the Going Deep with Chad and JT podcast. We got JT. He just consumed tons of liquid. Yes, sir. Boom clap, Stokers.

How you doing? I'm good, man. How are you? I'm good. We got Aaron in studio, back in studio. Aaron, back in the house. My dog. Oh, dude. What's up, I'm good. We got Aaron in studio, back in studio. Aaron, back in the house. My dog. What's up, legend? Congratulations on the softball championship.

Yep. Being victorious in a pitcher's duel. What's your position? I've been pitching a lot lately. Oh, man. Just pumping strikes, man. I knew you had a cannon. I knew you had a cannon.

And then your Cardinals, how are they looking? Oh. Swept the Cubs four games in Chicago Hit three home runs off their closer You know, I knew about this Because my roommate Joe, Uncle Joe He was pretty bummed out Sorry, Joe He said they lost each game by one run

And that they went into the ninth with a lead each time Three of the four, yeah That's a very dramatic way to lose Yeah, yeah sorry joe does joe watch every game uh yeah probably the majority if they're playing at a time when he's either awake or not at work yeah is he laser focused or is he kind of just like no he's keeping that yeah he's into it yeah does he even in like regular season games when it's just like relaxed is he like getting like yeah yeah he's pumped because i think there's like always momentum at stake you know the team's either in a losing streak or they're on a hot streak either way

full attention is needed yeah yeah that's fun ebbs and flows of that six month season i'm envious of his uh chicago fandom oh, he's deep in it. It's so funny when he talks about Trubisky, the quarterback from Chicago, because he didn't have any touchdown throws the first two weeks, and I generally just don't think he throws the ball very well. When he's on the run, it's a little better, but anything in the pocket kind of comes out squarely, and Joe just can't admit it.

And then there's two other guys from the same draft class, Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes, who, especially Mahomes, are like world beaters. And so I'm always like, those guys are better, huh? And Joe's like, they're not better. Hasn't been proven yet. But it's like obvious to anyone watching that they're leaps above Trubisky. I watched Mahomes. He's amazing.

He's a freak. Yeah, he's legit. He's like revolutionizing the way people play quarterback. And Joe will watch his highlights and be like, he'll throw just a dime in the back of the end zone. And Joe will be like, that's not that good of a throw. And it's remarkable to see Joe just convince himself that this new quarterback who could end up being like the MJ of football is just not good. It's like, nah, he's not that good.

Nice throw, dumbass. And then, dude, Joe and I are going to have to move. My roommate, my other roommate, who I speak about less but I've known forever and is one of my dearest friends, Greg, is moving out with his lady. Yeah. I'm happy for him. He's moving to Los Feliz. I think he's always been a Los Feliz guy. Yeah, I think he's always wanted to live there.

And, you know, his girlfriend Melissa is wonderful, and he told me a couple nights ago, he's like, bro, I'm moving out. Does he have a place set up already? Yeah, they already got a place picked out when's he moving uh in a month a month and a half yeah cool and joe is floating some names of people to have move in and i was like nah yeah it's your yeah just keep it keep it the deuce dude yeah three is hard to fill three's a lot yeah greg's greg's kind of perfect because he's just like a solid guy. Yeah. And I've just known him so long. A lot of trust there.

But, dude, things change. I did this in my Instagram post. I was like, Greg's moving out. My dad's sick. Our career's going well. Life just keeps changing on you. Yeah. And I said all that to Joe, and then he said, this parking lot sucks.

Yeah. Because we're in a shitty parking lot. Well, that's the way he internalized it. You know, in Joe's speak, he said probably a quote from Lao Tzu and the Tao Te Ching. Yeah, he was saying stay present. Yeah. Like, let's focus on what's in front of us, which is this terrible parking lot. Yeah.

Yeah. He's got an interesting philosophy behind him. There's a lot of integrity to it, for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of spirituality in that hog. A lot of farting, too. He just comes home and just like i'm the masticator i'm like the noise machine no probably the thing my parents said to me most was like close your mouth yes and uh stop showing me your ass yeah oh dude it's

literally the exact same lessons were being taught in my like because i was always mooning people yeah so my parents were always like just please keep your pants on at this party do that but then i'd get fired up yeah dude i had a birthday party too and they're like do not show everyone your ass yeah you got a cute butt though yeah oh thanks yeah so do you thanks next thing i knew my brother was putting it drawing a skull on my ass with sharpie i used to have friends draw stuff on my butts too yeah would you ever get tattoos sharpie clever stuff yeah yeah i freshman year i drew like a dick on my chin with a sharpie and then i kept licking it all day nice my brother would uh he put me in the full-on tattoo parlor and he like he put like a bow tie on me. He drew on loafers with tassels. He drew on, my favorite was the neck taco,

which is just a taco on your neck. It looked great. Yeah, I had a friend, like when people would pass out drunk, you know, we'd draw all over them. Most of the time not in Sharpie, but then, you know, there'd be a party downstairs and we'd be riding on them upstairs. And then we'd be like, well, everyone needs to see this. So we'd like, you know, get mad at him. And we'd be like, Robert and we'd be riding on him upstairs and then we'd be like well everyone needs to see this so we'd like you know get mad at him like robert the cops are here and they need everyone downstairs now yeah and he would know we were bullshitting but you know we'd we'd ride

him hard enough and get him downstairs and then he'd just stand there drunk and be like oh look at him and we'd be like yeah we got you we got you it only took three hours of cajoling but we got you worth it uh dude what about this snl thing with uh shane gillis uh yeah man that was crazy story yeah it was nuts it's a tough one because you know you want to be on the side of like you know this is comedy it's sacred we need to be able to take chances yeah We need to be able to take chances. Yeah. We need to be able to take risks. But then there's also the side where it was, like, from last year,

not, like, 10 years ago. Yeah. And it's, like, pretty derogatory. It was pretty mean and out of touch. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't cool. It's not, like, structured jokes.

Yeah, and it wasn't funny, really. Yeah. But at the same time, like, i don't like what he said and i think he should have just straight up apologized that's like my mentality is like if you say something stupid just apologize like sometimes people say stupid shit and then they defend their right to say stupid shit and i'm like do you really want to die on that and he'll just say like you're wrong and move on yeah and he sort of said sorry it just wasn't like a full-fledged apology he couched it in like i'm a comedian i need to be able to take chances which i do agree with

because when i started doing stand-up like i'm more careful now but when i started i said really stupid shit yeah not typically racial shit but or really ever racial shit but i said stuff that i wouldn't say now and it took me maybe doing that to figure out to pull back yeah you know but um but I definitely wasn't ready for primetime yeah um which is what he was doing going on to s now but then I also don't like the binary of like oh he said a bad thing so he's a bad person yeah you know what I mean like he I don't know how he is as a person but I assume he's probably a pretty good guy yeah you know what it means and i know people who say stupid shit who are good guys yeah so i and and maybe that's not even snl may not even be saying that he's a bad guy maybe they're just

saying that it was too much heat to deal with but but the other sorry go ahead and yeah it is pretty um disconcerting to see like the response on Twitter when people are just like furious at him they're like get go the fuck away you piece of shit right and it's like you're gonna be you're gonna like say that kind of stuff I mean it's just like he says the guy says like a few things that you know aren't you know ideal yeah let's say to say the least and then you're just gonna like box him in like that it's just like a huge piece of shit that shouldn't be able to make a living yeah and then they go die and then they try to find more evidence that like uh confirms that yeah that he's a bad person yeah and then they take his stand up and they like transcribe it

and they're like these are all hacky bits that that really upsets me yeah because i watched him at the comedy store in the main room yeah which is what like the second like biggest stage at a comedy club in america like there in the cellar yeah and he crushed yeah he murdered he was really really funny i went home before any of this stuff happened i was like i was talking to my roommate i was like bro this guy shane gill is like crushed really yeah he had great material, good stage presence. It's really hard to crush in the main room. Yeah. Like big comedians don't do that great a lot of the time.

Yeah. And he crushed. And then so to see all these people online just like so casually dismiss him as a performer and be like, oh, look at these bits. All these bits are gross and stupid and hacky. Yeah. Especially when they called it hacky. Yeah.

I was like, it's not a hacky. You don't knowy is yeah are you a comedian yeah and i don't and i was thinking about that too i was like you don't even have to be a comedian but like you need to be a student of comedy at minimum to really designate that stuff yeah yeah and it was like and comedy's not meant to be transcribed and read that way like no a lot of it like if you wrote down chris delia set it wouldn't read as hilarious yeah probably uh no disrespect dog um but he doesn't listen same with like sebastian yeah or sebastian but then when you but those two guys more than anyone have so much charisma it's all their presence yeah and then they crush yeah what do you think about the idea of apologizing though as in like giving in to like the mob and sort of condoning that behavior of like just writing like they

point out that you're like a bad person because you said this one thing then you apologize what do you think about people sort of taking a stand and fighting him i do i do think there's integrity in that but the way i look at it is different than that like i look at it as like as an isolated thing it's wrong it was kind of wrong to say it was it was no it was it was wrong to say what he did you know like to use those those terms for asian people like that's wrong so if i got caught or said, if I said something like that and got caught saying it, I don't think I would be worried about like the mob.

I'd be more like, yeah, that was shitty. I should just say, sorry. I think in his case, especially that's true. But what about like comedians who are making like jokes and they're just

trying to be funny? Yeah, that's true. It's like, it's like an obvious attempt at, they're just trying to push the boundaries and they're just trying to be funny it's i think it's case by case because i think you can sometimes you miss the mark sometimes you hit it yeah what i mean yeah and there's some stuff that i've said that i probably wouldn't apologize for and there's

some stuff that i would yeah um i don't think you should well i guess my thing would be and it's not like the strongest take but i i wouldn't have a set reaction to anything. It would all be case by case. You know what I mean? It would depend what I was in trouble for. But if I was in trouble for what he got in trouble for, yeah, I think that's one where you just say sorry and hope for forgiveness and move on.

Yeah. What do you think is going to happen to him? I think he'll have a fine career. I just hope he doesn't go like super far the other way yeah like because those people will accept him you know what i mean because i think he's got uh more appeal than that so he's sitting there just like fuck yeah he just comes out he's like come on guys what's the deal with spoons huh yeah yeah like he does the safest stuff yeah why do we have spoons yeah they're just mini bowls am i wrong spoons are good aaron

what's your take uh i've only heard the clip from his uh podcast and um that was a pretty shitty podcast. Yeah. That's all I can say. You know it's the audio engineering? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sucked. I sat through a lot of podcasts, and they're all better than that. Are you referring to the audio specifically, that they just didn't have the right mics? Yeah. I was just joking.

Yeah, it was disrespectful to your vocation. I think so. And, you know, you can delete this if you want after the fact, but when you get SNL or when you find out you're getting SNL, delete your podcast, man. You don't need that shit. You don't need that shit anymore. No, I was about to dude i'm we're gonna

hire someone i think we've been pretty safe but i think yeah i think i was gonna hire someone to go through and just like comb through all of our stuff because like i just it's like it's not worth it you know what i mean absolutely not if i'm gonna get my dreams it's just not worth it to like have some like 10 second thing where i'm like trying to be edgy like uh derail the whole thing yeah but it sucks it does suck that we live in a climate where like we have to be that um i don't know we should get on that asap yeah yeah we'll do it sooner rather than later i think we're good but yeah do you know anyone that could do that sure yeah you do yeah i mean i don't know who who will right now but any like

professionals though yeah i know one guy really yeah who does like uh reputation management oh really yeah let's get on it dude i met the guy who i met the guy who put out the article about shane gillis with all the clips yeah he came to a stand-up show of mine and it was with a name tag that's it all that or no no no it was before this and i i just met him i was like oh you're a comedy journalist and he was like yeah and i was like oh That's probably the worst profession. Yeah. Dude, he didn't laugh once during my set. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, and then we had like a brief conversation.

He did not seem very funny. Yeah. A comedy journalist. Yeah. I mean, I imagine if you're a comedy journalist, you're probably pretty bitter. Right. Because you probably failed at comedy. Yeah.

Or never tried it. Yeah. He's not the man in the arena. The other guys like Proctor. Who's the guy on Gladiator? Proximo? Proximo. Although Proximo, he was a Gladiator.

Dude, we've had an exciting couple of weeks. There's some stuff we can't talk about until next week, but some stuff we can talk about. Yeah. Weaii 5-0 last week it was awesome in its 10th season they brought out chad and jt it was awesome and scooter and ski yeah and so we they changed our names to scooter and skis it was so fun man and like you know it just being in Hawaii, shooting on a show, I mean, it was a lot of work. We were kind of, like, MIA last week because we were just shooting, like, for, like, five days. But it was so, you know, the crew was amazing. Best crew I've ever been around. Like, island vibes, you know.

They just love life. They love their jobs. They're all tan. And they've been together for 10 years on this show and then a lot of them were on lost which filmed on the same island before that yeah for five or six years so this this this team has literally been together for 16 years yeah and they didn't have any like ounce of like bitterness or sort of like like sometimes i feel like maybe in la a lot of people will have that kind of like, you know, they want to be in a higher position or something. So they're just kind of like, especially like waiters and stuff, which isn't, doesn't, but,

uh, cause they're not in crew, but I'm just saying like, as an example, it was such a well-oiled machine. They were so confident too and comfortable. I remember watching like the cameraman, cause there were some like dicey shots, like by a pool over a balcony on a roof the confidence they had just like give me the camera and they're just holding it you know just like not they're just like they just knew exactly what they were doing it was so cool and then we got to a point too where we were just uh we were just having fun on camera and just goofing around and yeah i think that's the best stuff when you just feel

free and able to sort of just like play play get creative yeah it was dope dude it was like one of the best experiences of my life really just had so much fun and like the director karen who i'm going to be talking about later acesces, the first AD, Rich. Oh, Rich. Because like first AD, like the directors are in charge, but the first ADs run the set. Right. They kind of do what people think directors do, where they're like, all right, everybody, get ready.

Set this up. Set that up. Yeah. That's like the first AD's job. Yeah. And they're kind of like the boots on the ground general. And just the way they kept things moving but kept it upbeat was like such a pleasure to be around and they were so nice to us yeah my favorite pa was riley dude

riley rich's son the 80s son was a pa we didn't find that out till like the fourth day yeah and then we're like what dude you're a legacy you and your dad work together yeah and and then we're like we're like is your dad ever hard on you goes no he's really nice sometimes i disappoint him though which hurts i was like god damn it riley i love what i'm hearing yeah he's such a bra too i love him oh riley was like hey brothers you want to grind in some sandwiches yeah and uh my favorite thing that anyone said to me on the whole trip was i was like so what are you doing this weekend he's like i'm gonna have some beers serve and try to meet some pretty island ladies and i'm like that, that's the lifestyle that everyone should enjoy.

We were ready to move to Hawaii after a day. Yeah. Yeah. Because you meet people there who have only, you're like, they have full Hawaiian accents. Yeah. Like that guy, that extra we met on set. Yeah. How long have you been living here?

He's like, four years. I'm from Seattle, bro. I'm like, why do you sound like you were born on the North Shore? That guy was kind of a huge chotch, though, too. from seattle bro yeah i'm like why do you sound like you were born on the north shore that guy was kind of a huge chotch though too because like there's this extra who like he said something why what was he said like yeah which means like you have a huge ass yeah and he's like bras i just told her she has a huge ass and she's like standing there she's like what he's like yeah i mean look at it right and i'm like yeah yeah hawaii is an interesting place too like we heard an alarm go off like over the tsunami

tsunami warning and it ended up being a glitch but we're just standing there at work and i'm like everyone's like don't worry about it it's just a glitch and i was like are we sure it's a glitch yeah or is and then they told us that they they accidentally one time sent out a mass text message to everyone on the island that a nuclear missile from north korea was coming i remember that everyone only had 20 minutes to live yeah it ended up being it was like a top-down menu and instead of sending that this is a test one the guy sent this is the real deal one yeah which is like and dude they um they were saying like when the alarm went off they're like like oh that's weird they usually do that the first monday of each month

yeah so they're like freaking i thought they were fucking with us because they're like yeah this is weird because it's this is not the typical time that they schedule this stuff and so i thought they were just messing with then the next day they're like no we were actually like really scared oh really yeah but dude the way they kept their cool yeah the way that rich the ad was like there was something really profound about he's like he's like crazy alarms and he goes okay guys we're gonna get word from the authority soon on what's going on but until we get that let's set this shot up he's like everybody back to position one yeah and i was like oh we're just gonna like if there is a wave coming we're just gonna be

finishing our jobs while it hits yeah which is kind of like it'd be a good scene it's a great scene in a movie it's like what they make documentaries like the band played on and uh yeah and titanic or something like that yeah yeah that would really change the whole narrative of that episode too yeah and of the show it would go down as like one of the greatest shows in history yeah because everyone sacrificed so hardcore for it yeah scooter and ski got everyone keeps messing up my name from the show scooter and skis got swept away and held on one guy was holding on to a branch and i was holding on to one of us was holding on to the other yeah we saved each other while one of us filmed it on a cell phone for content.

What was some other good Hawaii? Oh, dude, we heard this, that in Hawaii they had a huge rat problem, so they brought over a bunch of mongooses to kill the rats, and then they realized that the mongooses lived during the day and the rats were nocturnal, so they never ran into each other.

So it was just like two boats passing in the night. Yeah. No, I was like to that guy, we were filming with that guy Shane, and he's like, oh, there's a mongoose that crossed the road. no i was like to that guy we were we were filming with that guy shane and he's like oh there's a mongoose across the road and i was like oh cool mongoose and he looks at me he's like what oh like he sees him all the time yeah he was like laughing at me i was like dude they're cool like it's cool bmx bikes ricky tiki tabby those are cool bmx bikes yeah yeah and then speaking of bmx stuff we shot real bros yesterday yeah although

there's one guy i wanted to mention oh please yeah i forget his name though he's from forgetting sarah marshall kamakona yeah what's his real name do you know i forget he was your guy the big man taylor wiley so taylor wiley you might recognize him from Forgetting Sarah Marshall he's the guy who helps Jason Segel slaughter a pig for the luau and he gives him a beer on the beach and he's like you should stop crying um and uh he was a beast too

I didn't really talk to him but it was cool he was one of those guys I was just he's like yeah scooter and skeet and you're like skeet and he's like right and he's like fresh grinds skeet and you're like skis and he's like right he's like no he's like fresh grinds for the vips oh thanks not you scooter and skis yeah he was great good energy really nice guy too yeah everybody was nice it was cool it was cool yeah it was good times um yeah so then we did real bros yeah, Real Bros was fun. That was fun.

Yeah. It was cool watching Jimmy direct. Yeah. He's a beast. He's a beast, man. It's like, he's got a really, like, strong work ethic and, like, um, like, command of what he's doing. Yeah.

Yeah. He really knows what he's doing. Yeah. And I don't know, I don't want to give away any details about the show, but I think it was a pretty, you know, it wasn't just like in a studio. They were moving around a lot of pieces that they had to put together. It looked like a difficult shoot. Yeah, it was sprawling. Yeah, and he knew exactly what he wanted,

which I think is the sign of a good director. Yeah. Like he has a vision. Yeah. Yeah, and it was fun working with him. That was really a nice opportunity. Yeah. And then, yeah, man, what else is cracking?

Have you recovered from Hawaii? I don't think I... So I didn't sleep really two nights ago, but I don't think I slept that well last night either because, yeah. What, are you having dreams are you just like wrestling in bed he's wrestling yeah drinking a lot of water gotta do something um but you know when you just when you you realize you're just exhausted you're like having

i sort of get like anxious thoughts and stuff and and I'm just sort of cranky, and I'm like, oh, I'm just tired. I need to fucking hit the sack. Yeah, I'm getting better at it, but I can feel it when my brain's running, where my brain goes, danger, we're in trouble. Things are going to go really bad, and they're only going to get worse. And then tomorrow, you're going to have a breakdown in front of everybody, so you need to find a way to pull the plug out now.

And I'm like, maybe I just need to chill. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I just need to find a way to like pull the plug out now and i'm like maybe i just need to chill yeah yeah maybe i just need to chill for a little bit my brain is uh it's weird because like whenever i'm exhausted i will get paranoid about one specific thing and i'll try to like fix it so i'll just go on like a deep dive of something that I can't, can really do nothing about. And so it'll just take up hours of like the day where I'm just like running around. I'm like, how can I like, you know,

prevent this from happening to that front? And it's just like, and I'm like, I just wasted like four hours trying to prevent something that's never going to happen from happening. Yeah. I do the same thing. Yeah. It's the worst. Yeah. It's Yeah, I do the same thing. Yeah. It's the worst. Yeah.

Yeah, I did that today. Yeah. Did you watch the Between Two Ferns movie? No. Is it out? Yeah. Okay. I've been watching it.

How is it? I heard it's not as good as the Funny or Die version of it. Yeah, because it's kind of contrived. It's a little toned down. They're forcing a story out of it. And you're like, but they're playing it as reality but you're like i know this isn't like with the between two ferns interviews and i love zach kaufman because i think he's the greatest yeah yeah and with those you know you know that the the target is like in on it yeah but it's still

funny because you feel like he's still hitting them with surprises i think yes but in this you in this, you know, they have this narrative and they're playing it like it's a documentary. Like it's really happening. Like mockumentary, basically. But it's just not believable. Maybe because it's Zach. And I heard he doesn't go at the celebrities as hard as he went at them in the original versions. Yeah. It feels more set up i guess yeah

where this one they would the video would just pop up you're like you're like oh he somehow wrangled them into this but with this it's because it's a movie and they're going to like different locations like oh they run to john legend here right it's like yeah it's too set up at like an am pm in like tulsa and you're like yeah that just wouldn't happen yeah but it's believable to think he could trick that person into coming to a sound stage in la yeah yeah that makes sense yeah like eric andre yeah yeah i want to check that out but i love him and i there's some laughs in there i don't want to knock it but uh because i think he's and i've seen him do stand-up.

He's brilliant. Oh, he's the best. He's the best. One of the best ever. Yeah. And I've heard he just like, on set, he's just like genius. And I heard he's sweeter than pie too. Yeah.

Dude, I've been watching Ballers because my girlfriend's into it. Really? Dude. That's so funny. Genuinely one of the dumbest shows that's ever existed. Like so stupid. I laugh. Dude, itest shows that's ever existed. Like, so stupid. I laugh. Dude, it's all this, like, phony, thoughtful masculinity shit.

It's so stupid. Like, the intro song's fire. It's Lil Wayne. It'll just get you freaking hyped up. Like, every time the song comes up, I just start bouncing around my living room, and I'm like, let's go. Then the show starts, and The Rock's like, if you want to be a winner first, you've got to know what it feels like to lose.

And you're like, yeah, no shit, dude. Yeah. And then it's just like, and then it's like moments like that that are like super trumped up 40 times over again over the course of a show. It's like, look, we need to go all in. And then the guy looks back at him and goes, we're way past all in. And you're like, whoa, are we? Oh, no. Yeah.

And it's just like, it's so dumb. Is it Entourage for football? Yeah. I think Entourage is like the West Wing compared to this show. Yeah. This is like, yeah, it's so dumb. Yeah. Here we are back in the set of Ballers.

Even the name, dude. And then The Rock's like, ha ha. Look, if you're going to try and take my company from me, you should know one thing about me. I never back down. You're like, ooh, tough guy. Okay, yeah. He should play a heroin addict in his next film.

That'd be cool if he dropped like 60. Yeah, if he went like Dallas Buyers Club and just got like emaciated. Yeah. It's like, oh, fuck, dude. Oh, dude. You're like, that's The Rock I want to see. Yeah. Because every role is kind of

the same yeah he's just too buff yeah and and you know it's like him versus giant gorilla or skyscraper or an earthquake we want him to fight something yeah yeah yeah fight fight drug habit that seems more difficult yeah i started watching ozark you bought ozark that's too bleak for me you like it uh i got about like 50 in the first episode i went to sleep nice but yeah it got dark quick yeah i was like holy shit dude he's like watching a video of his wife getting like oh bound by i hate that stuff yeah even on porn sites you know when you see like girlfriend cheating on boyfriend i'm like what you do i love it yeah i hate it i love i love like worst case scenario in my porn really like in terms of like the social dynamics yeah

it disturbs me so much i'm so afraid of it happening that i i watch the porn of it as a way to get over feeling bad about it i like sexualize my fear oh that's smart yeah because i i'm so afraid of that stuff too that I guess... You just go away from it. I go like, I immerse myself. I kind of fetishize it to take away its power for me. Well, does that make it better or worse for you? What do you think?

It could go either way. I think it's all management. You know what I mean? Because if you fetishize it too much, it's like, then that's like the only thing that works for you or then you're thinking about it too much. I think I've got it like right-sized at this point where like it turns me on a little bit but it's not like driving my entire being i get i get such like i'm not actually gonna do that shit yeah i get such

weird superstitious thoughts i'm like if i indulge in this it'll manifest enjoy it it's gonna manifest yeah maybe dude you're good with manifesting stuff. I'm a manifest beast. Yeah, you're a manifest beast. You might want to be careful. I trust your instincts. I like Strider's advice. 40-year-olds making love.

Or just anal. Yeah, right. Keep it simple. Should we get into some questions, dog? Oh, yeah. Teenage problems, please help. Yo, what up, Stokers and any guests that are with? I come to you today with a weird and sort of corny cry for help. Oh, yeah. It's depleting my stoke levels because I hardly talk to any girls. But as a teenager and either the hormones, emotions I have, you already know, I want to start boning and boning smooch with that dank Douglas lubricant, baby.

And I guess my question is, what should I do to put myself out there in the world and get with some sweet mamacitas? Maybe get some friends along the way if I can and really get the most out of my teenage years. Always love listening to you guys because the pod really does cheer me up when I'm going through a hard time and I'm in a dark place. And yeah, just keep letting your creative just as fluent in turn that will fill up my noggin with that sweet knowledge.

Love you dudes and keep it up. Ah, my dog. Thank you, brother, for the kind words. Yeah, thank you. And the nice endorsement of Douglas. Yeah, that was good, dude. Your heart's in the right place when you're thinking about Douglas.

The fine people at Douglas. Dude, I think there's a couple ways to go about this. One, I honestly would try and convince your parents to let you go to a regular school. And, you know, I don't want to say one thing's better than the other, but, like, seeing how you're kind of yearning for more interaction, like, there's a place for that, and that's regular school. And, you know, I went to that. And that's regular school. And, um, you know, I went to regular school, so I liked it. I mean, there was aspects I didn't like, but I think

that's part of the growing up process. And I, I think it's nice to be able to relate to people about that stuff. Um, the other thing I would say is if, if that's not an option is that I go back to the parable of the unicorn, you of tearing down the forest trying to find it, just have a pretty picnic, and the unicorn will walk right up to you and give you kisses. So, yeah, what does that actually mean? I think maybe like hobbies, you know? Joining some after-school sports or activities.

You know, we're into paintballing. I don't think you're going gonna find a ton of gals doing that oh that's legit i'll keep thinking what are you feeling my dog dude i got two words for you rock climbing oh yeah you love rock climbing they're uh you know i i mean i'm sort of in the same boat i'm basically in the same boat you know build up your life start doing stuff you like get outside get out into the world throw out there, not just with the intent of getting laid, because that's, people can read that, and it's just like, it's a huge turnoff, but if you're just like a dude who's, you know, investing in his interest, investing in himself, stoked every day, you know,

just working on maintaining, and you know, and of course, life is life. You can't maintain the stoke all the time, but if you work towards building up your stoke so that you can try to achieve an optimum level and make that your default, I think that's an honorable, virtuous thing to do. And yeah, and you know, if you're looking for hobbies, I highly recommend rock climbing, especially if you're looking for hobbies i highly recommend rock climbing especially if you want to meet members of the opposite sex chess club poetry club um trivia and quiz clubs um do cheerleading yeah hold on let me finish sorry um yeah so i highly recommend rock climbing because you get to work your mind and your body. And it's pretty much like a club. People, they get obsessed with it.

They love it. And they meet like-minded people. And so maybe it's not rock climbing, but something in the same vein. All burn, no bronze. What's up, lords of Stoketown and Possible Guest? I turn to you bronze bros with a major problem. I live in the high country in Colorado, which is hella chill,

and relocating here has been dank for my life. However, my incredibly white Midwestern skin can't handle the intense sunshine. With less atmosphere to block the sun rays at 10,000 feet, I get roasted by the sun and sometimes by the squad. This has resulted in a massive loss to my stoke levels and my confidence in popping my shirt off around the squad when playing volleyball. The summers here are short and sweet, so I spend the majority of my time outside just sending it,

hiking, camping, fly fishing, or working outdoors. Of course I put on sunscreen, but are there any pro tips you dogs can give me on how to become a bronze boy and not a tomato boy? Peace, love, and stoke uh i you know i i hate to say it but i think some people their skin is just not meant to bronze yeah i don't think there's any way around it dog unfortunately some people aren't meant to be bronzed like uh a lot of irish people i guess like red-haired people yeah you know like they're super chill and they deserve all the happiness in the world but they're probably

gonna have to find a lot of it indoors yeah well look at colin farrell i mean he's he crushes it yeah doesn't look like he's able to does he bronze maybe he brought me yeah he can get tan yeah cersei ronan she doesn't bronze she doesn't bronze and she, he can get tan. Yeah. Cersei Ronan. She doesn't bronze. She doesn't bronze, and she's legit, dude. She was so good in Lady Bird. Yeah. And in Brooklyn.

She played Queen Mary of Scots. She played royalty, and she didn't bronze. Yeah, my dog. I mean, and dude, you're doing all that outdoor activity. You can still have a great time doing that, even if you're not the most bronzed dude in the world. So,'t risk it just bump up that spf yeah um yeah it's not worth harming your skin over you know uh a lot of times when you suppress something other things grow i don't know if it suppresses the right word but when you you know take note of the fact that all right i can't bronze but i can

excel in these other parts of my life. Then you're just going to shine in a different kind of bronze. What up, Chad and JT and other guests? I've been listening to this pod for a while, and it helps me stay positive and get through long runs and workouts. It's truly magical. I'm writing in because recently my school has been pushing restrictions on shoes and hair. They made a few kids cut their flow

and have tracked down some of the students wearing Vans. How do I stay stoked while wearing leather Sperrys and rocking the same generic haircut as everybody else? I've considered becoming a martyr and getting suspended for the sake of everyone's luscious locks, but it doesn't seem worth it. Do you bros have any ideas as to how I can stick out and not only be stoked, but raise the stoke around those around me? Thanks, Savants of Scooting.

Brady. P.S. Chad, I have my whole class saying Jabow. It's awesome. Oh, nice. Thank you, dude. Did he say he wants to wear Vans or Sperrys? of scooting brady p.s chad i have my whole class saying jabow it's awesome oh nice thank you dude did he say he wants to wear vans or sparrows no he how does he stay stoked while wearing leather sparrows oh because he has been tracking down yeah because the school's been trying out kids for wearing vans there's a uh a witch hunt going on yeah dude i was rocking vans heavy in school

and my college advisor called me the most disheveled kid in school whoa something that rhymed there um i've wore vans for the first time a couple days ago on hawaii five oh i never worn vans before oh yeah first time yeah first time how'd you feel uh unstable well i ended up only wearing them for like a couple minutes oh damn yeah but it was interesting they look cool your time will come yeah perhaps i'm open to it um dude you know what i would do i went to private school for most of my life so i had to wear uh um uniforms is that i would just like fetishize looking like a nerd like i was like all right you want me to look like a nerd i'm gonna be like extra nerdy like i'm gonna do all the buttons

on my polo and i'm gonna have a rolly backpack so maybe uh lean into it and then make them feel foolish for making you wear that that's like that's the way i love to do something is follow the rules while also commenting on the rules you're like that geek is a badass yeah that geek keeps fucking with me yeah do you see that geek busted out that window they're like your hair's parted too intensely you're like what are you talking about you want me to part my hair they're like yeah but you're parting it so much it's almost becoming edgy again you're like make up your mind people yeah did that geek just do a burnout yeah exactly yeah and then you do something crazy no don't do something crazy but you do It's almost becoming edgy again. You're like, make up your mind, people. Did that geek just do a burnout? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and then you do something crazy.

No, don't do something crazy. But you do something conventionally cool, and then it's all the richer because of it. Yeah, I would play around with it. I think the fact that they boxed you into a set of rules, that's going to expand your creativity because now you have this box, and you want to think outside the box with it while still following the rules so i would dive into dang colors you know i'd get some white sperries maybe with some like red lining or

something or like blue lining and then just like some i'd make your outfit within dress code but super loud you know hot colors i'm talking neon you know freaking mess with your flow a little bit you know maybe uh maybe uh give yourself a freaking man bun if you really want to get uh but uh yeah mix in with the hot colors you know white vans white sparrows those that's sending a message hell yeah what up china gt i've got a tough uh, yeah, mix in with the hot colors, you know, white vans, white Sperry's. Those, that's sending a message. Hell yeah. What up, Chattanooga?

See, I've got a tough issue I need your advice on. Me and one of my bros are having some minor beef right now. We're both in high school in our senior year

and I've been pursuing this girl who's way out of my league for the past six months or so. Class is just starting and my homie and I were in class together,

but I have the opportunity to switch to a different period with my crush. Right now, she has a boyfriend who's about to leave for college, so I see this as prime opportunity. My bro and I were in class together but I have the opportunity to switch to a different period with my crush right now she has a boyfriend who's about to leave for college so I see this as prime opportunity my bro and I would still talk all the time and hang together throughout the day but am I a schmole if I switch to their period he said he would be sad if I did but he doesn't want to stand in the way of my dream but I don't want to be a schmole what should I do so the other girls in the other period yeah i love rom-coms so

you know i mean i guess they're you know you don't want to disrespect your bro but i think the pursuit of love is pretty beautiful so i'd switch period and see how it goes yeah i think um you know i'm always like no do you don't want to do anything conniving to get close to a lady because it's like bad juju but then i remember that like jim on the office pretended he didn't know how to drive sticks so that he could have lessons with pam and you know sometimes we have to go above and beyond to get close to the people we're attracted to and you know to your original question like are you a schmalt no you're not a schmalt for doing that i mean just make it up to your buddy in other ways like give him rides to places and let him play music let him play his music on the rides when you guys go for rides and i think

that'll more than make up for you bailing out of that class yeah and i think your buddy if he'll probably come around and be like yeah you go find that relation dude you know i'll be here with the guys playing zelda and you go do your thing and there is a way to think about it where you're providing him an opportunity where you leave the class and then he has to make new friends and maybe in the course of that happening he meets a lady that he's super into right and then pretty soon you guys are going on double dates and this other dude who went off to college and lost his girlfriend, he ends up studying more

because of it, getting his master's, then his PhD, and he finds a cure for something. Wow. That's a scientific breakthrough because you switch periods. That's not the butterfly effect.

That's the butter dank effect. Oh, delicious. First off, I can't believe I'm writing to you guys and we'll end up on the fucking pod. I have a lot of questions for you guys, but I'll skip over and get to the main one.

I'm 19 years old and have lived in the D.C. area my whole life and just recently moved to Florida. Aside from catching rays and smoking doinks, what would you recommend I do to pass the time down here? School starts in roughly two weeks, which I'm pretty amped on, but besides that, I have nothing going on. I'm pretty introverted, which sucks. It's all good, dude. But it's who I am. Any thoughts from two literal geniuses like yourself whoa what thank you would help a young lad in these trying times keep up the fire

content it helps get me through the days and i kind of thank you enough for that thanks jared p.s fuck puzio and also if you could toss out some fire websites to help enlighten me on current events where do you move to again flor, dude, get out there in bronze. Wakeboard. Maybe join a friendly fight club like our dog Jake. All very good options. And make sure the fight club is friendly. Don't go in there with a bunch of savages who are just going to, like,

abuse their extra abilities on you. You want people who are going to administer the beatings to the correct degree so that you can learn from it. Yeah, learn from Jake. Dude, yeah. I think Chad's right, man. Wakeboarding would be a really great way to spend time and then you're on a boat and there's sandbars out there in Florida, which

is so cool. There's little islands that you go out to and everyone drinks on them. Plus, dude, you're only a couple of weeks away from college. You're about to discover who you are like the calm is now the storm is coming like you're about to realize all your interests so maybe just get amped for that you could also become a theme park enthusiast because you got disney world you got universal studios tons of parks there yeah get your thrill on go freaking get that adrenaline pumping and go hit some rides that's something i would do and then there's like wakeboard parks you can't find a boat they have wakeboard parks i think in orlando where you

literally get pulled by a freaking widget dude you're so erudite when it comes to theme parks it's phenomenal i do love thrills you are a thrill seeker my dog and dude another thing that i've been doing lately that's really been helping me and you're 19 so this might not appeal meditation dog oh yeah dude meditate make you feel good dude then you'll go into all these situations where you feel introverted be a little more comfortable with how introverted you are yeah because. Because it's not a bad thing, dude. You know, it's something you have to deal with. And of course, you want to push yourself to get outside of your comfort zone. But I wouldn't be too hard on yourself just because you need time to yourself or because

you don't have all the friends in the world yet. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I'm pretty introverted and I love it, you know, because I love the fact that I'm able to take as long as i want to spend by myself and just be happy as a friggin clam hey dude just want to start by saying love the pod and it gets me amped when i'm having a bad day anyways my one year anniversary with my girlfriend is approaching soon congrats and i want to make her feel like the special girl she is what do you guys think i should do for our anniversary i'm gonna tell you to do something I do not know how to do.

I think, well, I don't know because it's all in the execution. But can you cook a fire seven-course meal? Whoa. I'm talking nuts to bolts, front to back, the entire 24-hour Le Mans race in cuisine. Wow. I mean, I'm talking started off with some cheese and grapes. Then we get into le bouche appetizers, and then entree, then a pasta, and then a dessert. Maybe have some friends come over and help you and make it fun for you and all your boys.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe your girlfriend wants to go to a dinner, but if that's not something that she's automatically into, I think if you could throw down some wolfgang bobby flay mario batali that could be really great yeah i like that a lot cooking a really fresh meal for seven courses that's hard to beat um what's something what's something unforgettable that you can do? It's one year, too. So, I mean, do you want to set?

I mean, I don't want to be afraid of, like, if you do a hot air balloon, where do you go year 20? Yeah. Like, for my one-year anniversary, we were like, oh, this is cool. Yeah, it is cool. We were in Vegas, so I guess that's, but it was for Kevin's wedding. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Did you guys at least smooch? Yeah, I was like, it's our one-year anniversary. Do youooch yeah i was like i was like i was like it's our

one year anniversary one make out and she's like sure that's awesome yeah sometimes it's just a moment yeah yeah because yeah that sets the bar too high so you could just want to like you know keep it cash and maybe go watch ad astra yeah but he did email us so i think he wants something he wants to go big he wants to go he wants to go big um just smoke some doinks yeah oh you love that i heard you laugh so stupid smoke some doinks he might have meant danks but i'm pretty sure he meant doinks i hope he meant that could catch on yeah um stoker start writing in saying smoking doinks i hope you meant that could catch on yeah um stoker start writing in saying smoking doinks so i here i remember it uh trying to think what else yeah if you want to tweet uh just smoke some doinks at hilarious on twitter that'd be great yeah and tweet smoke doinks with aaron i was

thinking too you could do i love that and i, too, you could do an activity that, like, helps bring you closer together. Something like skydiving. Even though it's dangerous, not want to be the cause of your death. Skydiving? Yeah. No, it's safe. It's safe. You could do that.

Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Maybe do something like skydiving. You know, high intensity. Bungee jumping. You know, high intensity where you guys are scared together and then you do it together and then you have that memory just etched in your domes forever and then that's something you can always go back to yeah i did the same i had a girlfriend and for our two-year anniversary went hunting for wild

boar together oh and but we didn't bring rifles because i thought that was too much of a competitive advantage so um we just brought sharpened bow staffs. Oh, nice. Yeah, we ended up not getting any, which was a bummer. But we got some of each other, which was chill. Nice. Yeah. And with something like a sharpened stick, that makes it much more personal.

It's like you go up to the wild boar and you're like, do I want to do this? It's soul to soul. With a gun, you can kind of just shoot them from afar. personal it's like you go up to the wild boar and you're like do i want to do this it's sold with a gun you can kind of just shoot them from afar with that you're like do i really want to eat this guy yeah you're up in his kitchen yeah yeah he's just drinking from this little nook here that's true yeah hey y'all what's up my name is jess i'm a senior at clemson i love the pod it's awesome my stoke has never been this high before and it's all thanks to y'all so nice man big So nice, man. Big problem in my life, though. I'm currently doing a long-distance relationship.

One DR. What does that mean? And I miss my guys so much, sometimes my stoke level drops. We text, FaceTime, and have countdowns until we see each other, but it still sucks missing them so much. And he suggests to raise the blaze. That's my own saying. Between us, while long dis.

Go Tigers and Trevor Lawrence. Jess. Man, Trevor Lawrence is a freak, bro. Just prototype QB. Um, 1DR. Sorry, I don't know what this means, guys. I hope it doesn't make me seem like a dork.

Oh, I wonder. Oh, very cool. That makes sense. Hey, you know what? I don't think, I think what you need to do is appreciate missing this guy. It's nice that you miss each other so much. There's some people who don't miss each other at all. You love this guy so much that you miss him.

You literally crave him. And I think that's a beautiful thing. I would just be grateful for it and be like, man you know who i miss my boyfriend i love that fucking guy yeah can't wait to see that motherfucker i think that's really sweet and plan an event like a reunion event in the future so you have something to you know whenever you're talking to look forward to because that just raises excitement levels you can just talk about whenever you're talking to look forward to, because that just raises excitement levels. You can just talk about what you're going to do during that event, you know, whatever you plan on doing, like a trip or just your reunion. And, you know, have that sort of end goal in sight so that can keep you guys bonded and keep you guys juiced and excited. That's what's up.

I did. That's what's up. Real quick too, guys, I got to do a quick addendum to my, I think it was Babe of the Week a couple of weeks ago, the wide receiver Bullet Bob Hayes from the Dallas Cowboys, who also won the gold medal in the 100 meter. There was another thing I forgot to say about him that made him such a great football player is that he was so good at going deep and his speed was so hard to deal with that the league actually evolved in

its defenses because of him. They say he's responsible for zone coverages and for bump and run defense from the corners. So another reason why he is a stellar stud that needs to be thought of more often. Nice. Chad, so let's get into the other stuff. What is your beef of the week? My beef of the week is with insomnia um i don't have insomnia but i had it for a night and it was brutal and um to anyone who suffers from that my heart goes out to you because it is fucking it it's the worst so sorry dude um but yeah i had it for a night because we had an important thing the next day and i wanted to sleep well.

I got in bed at like 10. And I was like, I'm going to bed at 10. I was also jet lagged from Hawaii. So it was like 8 p.m. for me. And I couldn't sleep. And I couldn't sleep till 2 a.m. And it was the worst. You know, I tried all kinds of things.

I tried the Calm app. I did like three different meditations. I tried Sleepy Time Tea. I tried all kinds of things I tried the calm app I did like three different meditations I tried sleepy time tea I tried to hypnotize myself I tried to read a book and uh it just was not happening because it was in my dome you know it was like go to sleep go to sleep because this is important and I was just my body's just like nah dude go fuck yourself and I was like damn that's harsh you know because i thought you're on my side but whatever um so yeah my beef of the week is with insomnia it sucks and i feel very grateful for the ability to be able to fall asleep typically it was funny though dude because when i

saw you the day after you were like dude i barely slept last night i'm losing it and in my head i'm literally like you look phenomenal oh well i was like your skin is like glowing well the way i got over it stokers you can use this if you don't sleep well and you also have ample time in your day go to moto yoga on the brea murder bro and hot yoga and just sweat it all out and you're gonna shine i want to take like jaco wilnick there and just watch him break dude that that room is so hot yeah i could not make it through the movements i was dead i know my heart was beating so fast i'm like is this because i'm tired or is this because it's this hard it's hard dude like i was trying and then like 45 minutes in i was just like i broke down i was like i had to do child's pose And these ladies in front of me were just crushing it. I was like, good on you.

Yeah, I was just squirming on my mat. They were like, oh, oh. And then I went into the male locker room afterwards and there was just all this condescension from the limber dudes being like, hey, brother, not easy, is it? It's good stuff. Make sure you come back. I was like, yeah, for sure, dudes.

Hey, brother. It's not easy. Hey, brother, you struggling there a little bit? They're just waiting for you. Yeah, they just loved it so much. All right, yeah. I just had to wear it and be like, okay, yeah, yeah. You guys are amazing at this.

Dude, I was thinking, like, it's funny, like, when I start earning more money, I don't buy more things. I just buy more gym memberships. Yeah. I totally agree with that. Yeah. I don't need more stuff. I need more access. Yeah. I really, I 100% am on the same. I totally agree with that. I don't need more stuff. I need more access.

I 100% am on the same page. Rock climbing, yoga, spin. I don't know if I'll ever do jiu-jitsu. Pilates, dude. I'm doing Pilates. Oh, yeah. How's Pilates? Dude, Pilates is awesome.

You seem like you've been very zen as of late with the meditation, Pilates. I'm trying, man. I really am. Yeah, dude, Pilates is good. I like Pilates, too, because I'm not good's it's and yeah dude pilates is good i like pilates too because i'm not good at it and i'm in front of all women and it's like it's the same reason i like muay thai because i get humiliated in front of guys and this one i get humiliated in front of women nice and it's purifying yeah it's cathartic it really is yeah it keeps you humble um all right

dude my beef of the week is, it's not my own beef. It's this Philadelphia man who is a hero who saved children out of a fire. His buddy was up in the house and he was tossing kids, babies, out of a burning apartment. And the guy caught all the babies. And this Philadelphia dude's talking to the news afterwards. They're interviewing him. He's like, so I was catching all the babies. Not like Nelson Aguilar from the Eaglesagles just want to throw that out there so in the middle of being

interviewed for being a hero he just trashes this wide receiver from the eagles for dropping passes the funniest thing i've ever seen that's awesome it's so classic philly i know uh jack who runs our instagram page is an all-around legend and just does great work um we'll really love that because it's just so classic philly to just be like yeah i'm a hero but fuck the eagles man they could they should be playing better um and then nelson agelart his credit took the high road and said congratulations on being a hero if anyone can get me in touch with this guy i'd love to bring him to one of our games oh really yeah he took it well yeah um all right chad who is your babe of the week my babe of the week is hawaii

i love island vibes uh and also too when we were flying in it was like we were flying through the clouds i'm like this look like this looks like entering heaven the clouds are different yeah the clouds are different and i was thinking about like the people who before people knew that flight was possible they'd look up at the clouds and they'd think whatever you know like the like gods in the clouds or whatever and i was thinking about that and now you're just like in the clouds and you're like flying through them and it's like crazy object that's just yeah ripping through the sky and you're like wow i'm flying through the clouds right now like how many people actually get to experience this and i'm dropping into paradise where i'm gonna shoot with a fire crew only for the last hundred years have people gone to experience the miracle of flight which i'm very

afraid of yeah but yeah it's like it's brand new yeah and you're just going through clouds and they've already got it pretty well honed in on yeah yeah i wish we could just do it lower to the ground do we have to be 35 000 feet in the air i guess that's the spot where the turbulence is less but i'm like it is crazy when you think about how high they go yeah it's high i never thought about that way damn yeah it's fucking high you just think sorry for the language guys i know some of y'all told us to stop cussing so you could listen at work this one's not going to be the one but but the next one will be on it. Yeah.

Yeah, hire whoever's listening. Give whoever just heard this, give the guy who's listening a promotion. Yes. Good call. Yeah, but Hawaii, good island vibes. Love the people there. When you're out in the ocean, I love the feeling of being out in the pacific like you're like i'm in the middle of the pacific right now like i'm just on an island in paradise amazing

sand coral i know the coral's not doing so hot out there so my heart goes out to the coral for sure um but it's just an amazing place and so just freaking stoked and amped that that's a place we got to visit. And, you know, the waves out there are incredible. They're like, because like California beach, we get good waves, but it's out there. It's like, yeah, it's two, three. It's all right. I'm like, dude, those are fucking, those are fun.

It's not like LA County. Next to the shrimp place. What was the name of that break? Oh, Ala Moana bowls. That was pretty. Some good speed to those waves. Yeah. A lot and the break is i kept mentioning this and i guess you said it mixes up but it looked like the break was farther out in hawaii than it is here because of the reef right yeah it's cool it was really cool yeah um what's your uh who's your legend

or your babe my babe of the week is two people it's john daniels and dory daniels formerly dory dawson until a couple days ago uh i had the honor of being a groomsman at my friend john's wedding and he was my beef of the week one time because we had to kick him out of our fantasy football league he's the one who got kicked out yeah for not paying enough attention to his squad you know we had to do it to protect the league but we couldn't have kicked out a cooler guy i mean the guy's got more talent in his finger than any 10 men combined. I mean, he rips at singing. He's a hell of an athlete, and he's just charismatic as all get out.

And that's like the top of the line stuff. But then just seeing him at his wedding, he was nervous as shit, and then his beautiful bride comes out, and he just started crying. I'm not trying to embarrass you. Oh, really? I loved it. I loved it. It got me me so hyped up he was shaking his head like no no no and i guess he was saying like no no don't cry but i read it like no no no you can't be this beautiful and it was really nice and then we just had a killer wedding afterwards we i make it seem like i was like uh so integral to it but it felt like that and then um yeah i caught the garter belt six

time i caught the carter belt that's what'm all about. And he picked me up and carried me into the big group of guys and we raged to take him back Sunday. And, uh, yeah, John's just an awesome dude. He's always looked out for me. He's always like, I had a breakdown on Adderall when I was visiting him in New York and he let me crash at his place and he, him and Dory nursed me back to health. And, uh, it was the first time I spent time with a couple. And I saw how nice domestic life could be when both people are compatible. Every night, they would just cook dinner together and watch Shark Tank. And I was so charmed by it.

And they just had such great rapport. And I knew then. I was like, yeah, dude, these people are meant to be together. And I just had the best time. I stayed a week, like way overstayed my welcome. And yeah, his wife, Dory, is just the shit. I've known her since high school. And she's just a great person. And i'm so pumped for both of them and then sometimes i'd pick fights with him but he's like the best fighter i know and he would never beat me up he would just

uh pin me and like tell me to calm down and i always really appreciated that he always beat me up the right amount it took it like literally makes me cry because he really helped me without hurting me. So I appreciate it. Chad, who is your legend? Yeah, I met him in New York. And sorry I can't make it to your wedding, but he's the man. He's the beast, dude.

Charismatic. Looks like a Kennedy. Yeah, he's a good looking dude. And just a beast. Chad, who is your legend of the week uh we probably have similar ones the hawaii 50 crew that's mine too yeah um merge them yeah i mean they're just the best i mean we we touched on it earlier rich riley shout out the cast to megan katrina um director karen Katrina, director Karen. Karen's like, I was going to single her out a little bit. I really just had such a deep affinity for her.

Yeah. Just what a pro, dude. Such a pro. So calm and collected. Yeah. Never overdoing it. Yeah. But just very sure of what she wanted and just cool about getting it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like Gene Hackman said to a director i think for direction he's like i only want these kinds of directions more less loud or like less volume yeah and she kind of like ran by that kind of she'd be like a little more of this a little more of that you know like it wasn't like too overbearing no she'd let you sort of find your your voice yeah and she'd pull you aside she wouldn't give you notes in front of everybody yeah she was like very sensitive to how it feels to get notes and she'd just pull you over one-on-one and be like here let me tell you this thing yeah yeah yeah and then you know she's dealing with a lot like

you know you got to hit that time or then you got to pay people overtime yeah and she was just cool about it yeah she's really cool so sweet too very nice yeah and then she went to she did the classic thing that people who do to heart who go to harvard do yeah i'm like where'd you go to college she's like oh you know i left my hometown and went to college i'm like where she's like you know just somewhere in the east coast i'm like what school did you go to she's like i went to harvard i'm like you freaking harvard people do yeah they never want to say they went to harvard yeah yeah i saw that i went to harvard i'm like you freaking harvard people do yeah they never want to say they went to harvard yeah yeah i saw that i went to harvard yeah yeah they always like gonna resign to it like i'm a dummy i went to harvard yeah get over yourself yeah and the stunt guy too dude he was

a beast we got to get him on the pod yeah big wave surfer i forget his name i forget his name too i got the call sheet right here though though. Dude, Hanging Out of Helicopters. Yeah, the camera guys. I forget their names, but they were legends. They were great guys. All beasts. They were great guys. They said the camera guy told me the best actor he ever saw was James Woods.

Then Al Pacino was number two. Said they had a preternatural understanding of where the camera is. So sweet. Interesting. Yeah, dude, I'm regretting that we don't have the stunt guy's name yet. What did they say about Tom Cruise, dude? What did they say? They said he was a stuntman.

They're like his skill set. Oh, right, right. Motorcycles, cars. He surpasses, like, everyone. Yeah. He's, like, a wealth of talent in, like, all areas. Yeah. Acting, producing, stunts, driving cars, flying helicopters, flying planes, hanging out of planes, all kinds of shit.

Diffusing nuclear bombs. I'm sure he could master that. These were like real hardcore stuntmen and they were saying Tom Cruise is the real deal. Like he is, it's not people making him look that way like he really is a stuntman well you think about those tethers that we were on yeah and we were just we were we were five stories up on top of a roof he did that in the tower in dubai yeah and ran out of a window i get i get nervous just thinking about dude he hung he got tied himself to a plane and had the plane take off. Yeah.

Yeah, when you think about how absurd that is. It's insane. He's like, yeah, I'll do it. Can you imagine flying that plane and you're like, is Tom Cruise still hanging on? Dude, you could very... It's like, there's stuntmen for a reason. They could very easily die doing what they do.

Yeah. Like you're like, okay, I got a rope hooked up to me. But if one person messes up, there's no second chance. You're just dead. Yeah. And with Tom Cruise, when he was hanging off the plane, he said if a rock hit him, it would like go through his head. Right. He'd be done.

Yeah. You know in his heart of hearts he believes he could just headbutt that rock to death, though. Yeah. Tame the cock No What is it? Tame the pussy Respect the cock Respect the cock

And then he'd have a funeral for the rock and invite the whole family And then do a great eulogy about it Yeah Yeah he's a super stud Shout out to the crew Dude the crew was so great man If any of you are listening I love you

I love you too yeah I miss you guys dude I when we were at the end of the shoot when we were changing I don't think Riley knew

I was in the bathroom but I heard him talking to some of the crew he's like man I wish these guys were on the show all the time he said that?

yeah dude what a W dude what a W yeah and dude what do we do this was cool too when we because guys this was like i know we've been talking about a lot but it really was just such a beautiful experience for chad and i when we're on our way we had to hustle from the show to get a red eye to fly back so i could hit this wedding but dude we stopped at the beach on the way and we did a midnight swim because we were sweating crazy we didn't want to go to the airport like that that was beautiful man yeah not in the water like that at night

and i was so just thankful yeah yeah it was awesome it was warm salty and fresh dude the script supervisor was so nice oh yeah she was great she was so sweet yeah um I got her name. I think they're shooting right now. Yeah, they're probably shooting right now. Diane. She was so nice. Yeah. We didn't meet Scott Conn, though, guys, if some of you are wondering that, which was a bummer, but we'll get him next time.

Yeah, we'll get him next time. All right, Chad, should we keep pushing? Do you want to do your quote of the week? Yeah. Oh, I don't have a quote yet you want to do your quote of the week? Yeah. Oh, I don't have a quote yet. You want me to hit it real quick? Yeah. All right, guys, my quote of the week is someone we were just talking about.

It's Tom Cruise from Jerry Maguire. I think it's probably not his best acting performance, but his best movie star performance, and probably his film that I relate to the most. And I'm also doing it because it's John Daniels' favorite movie. And I didn't know why it was his favorite movie, and i got older a little bit and now i get it and this is from the end of the movie when he goes to he he's had the the sports success that has kind of been eluding him as an agent um you know after his fall from grace and his slow rebuild to the top and he

did it with integrity and now he's going to get his lady uh renee zellweger because he's he kind of hasn't been appreciating dorothy that's her name in the movie um because he's i don't know you know stuff's just tough but he barges into her house and uh they're doing like it's a bunch of divorced women talking about just how hard love is and he doesn't know where she's at but he barges in he goes hello i'm looking for my wife then she pops up he looks around all right if this is where it has to happen then this is where it has to happen i'm not letting you get rid of me how about that this used to be my specialty. I was good in a living room. Send me in there. I'll do it alone. And now I just,

I don't know. But our little company had a good night tonight. A really big night. But it wasn't complete. It wasn't nearly close to being in the same vicinity as complete. Because I couldn't share it with you. I couldn't hear your voice or laugh about it with you. I missed my wife. We live in a cynical world and we work in a business of tough competitors.

I love you. You complete me. And I just, and then she comes in. Shut up. Just shut up. You had me at hello. Let's go. Let's go.

Come in, she said. I'll give you a shelter from the storm. Dude, I saw Renee Zellweger coming out on the Ellen show, and she was dancing. I was like, she's still got it. Oh, she's got it. She's got it. She's got Moxie for days. Oh. Dude, they said in this thing, she came into the second audition crying, and they were

like, what's wrong with her? And then she crushed the first one, came in crying for the second one. She's just full of energy, bro. Cold mountain opening scene, she breaks a chicken's head. Nice. Sorry, vegans. But it was the 1860s.

Chad, what is your quote of the week? It comes from Harry S. Stamper from Armageddon. Bro. I know we have to go. We can all just sit here on Earth, wait for this big rock to crash into it, kill everything and everybody we know. United States government just asked us to save the world.

Anybody want to say no? Dude, your eyes right now, cocky. Aaron, what do you think? Aaron, what's up? Are you going to say no to the US Gov? Are you going to say no to being my wife? I'm going to have to pass on that. I love you, dude.

So you're saying no to the US Gov, though? You complete the pod, bro. Yeah, I would say no to the US Gov. Dude, negative on both fronts. Dude, he's a wild card. Aaron, you're the non-apologizer of the crew. Yeah. Yeah.

You're the Shane Gillis. Oh, Jesus. You won't be pushed into a position. I got one word for Aaron. Unpredictable. Yeah, dog. All right. Well, oh, should we do a phrase for getting after it?

Yeah, I have one. My dog hit us with it. Let's FedEx the fun. Nice, dude. What's's yours let me see real quick um mine is from independence day welcome to earth all right guys what does he say to the alien? That's what he says, I think. Peace. Peace. Oh, before he hits it with the rocket?

Yeah. Big Willie style, dude. I love movies because they create scenarios where you're about to die in an alien ship with Jeff Goldblum. Yeah. And Will Smith. And he lights some stoges. Yeah. You're 60,000 miles from Earth. Yeah. And Will Smith. And he lights some stoges. Yeah. You're 60,000 miles from Earth.

Yeah. Earth. What's your second favorite planet? Second favorite planet? I'm going to go with Venus. I like Neptune. Neptune? Yeah. It's where Poseidon's from.

Yeah, I like the color. Yeah. Yeah. I like Venus because it's so lively and, like, unpredictable. Yeah. And I feel like if you go there, then you're just gonna get, you know, just destroyed. Yeah. No, I just think it seems really, like, chaotic and cool.

Yeah, you're attracted to it. Yeah. Yeah, you want to touch that danger. Yeah. I'm attracted to what I can't have. Yeah. Or what could be bad for you. What do you like about Neptune?

Just the beautiful colors of it. Yeah. And I like the name. Yeah. I think Neptune rolls off the tongue nicely. It is cool yeah neptune yeah yeah i gotta say mars kind of whack super overrated yeah probably the most overrated planet yeah yeah yeah like it doesn't deserve the most movies yeah like it cool it's red

yeah yeah i almost think it just gets all that stuff because of the proximity yeah oh for sure yeah and i guess like jupiter's giant gas ball jupiter gets a lot of love i was about to say that too our heads are in the same place yeah that's always disappointing to me i'm like it's so big though like you know and they're like just that it's gas yeah it's not solid yeah you could just run right through it if it wasn't for a bunch of factors yeah that's so weird to me it is weird yeah it's weird that there's other planets and that there's just not stuff happening on them too yeah like we got elevators here now we got like zeds rotating

stage show the orbit production yeah i guess they have the real life orbit production yeah but we've had a lot of micro developments on earth that really set us apart. Yeah. Like, just think about the difference in juices. You know, I drink blue juice, you drink green juice. Yeah. We've got Hawaii and Alaska. Yeah, and that's just the USA. Yeah. We got Aaron saying he'd say no to the US Gov.

We got Bruce Willis saying he'll say yes. Yeah, Aaron, actually, we should probably revisit that. You would say no to the US Gov and just, what do you expect to happen to that asteroid if you're not going to help out you know all right i'm in i'm in dude that's what he's doing yeah okay i get it you just need a little bit of like i'm like that too where i'm like no i don't want to do it then you put the pressure on me i'm like all right let's fucking do it you know you just need to get cajoled yeah that's like my energy if like there's barbarians at the gates and they're coming into rape and pillage i'm like i don't want to fight these fucking guys but i'm like all right fine give me the helmet i guess we gotta fight

these guys yeah sons of bitches you know sons of open the gates let's kill as many of these guys as we can yeah reluctant badassery it's part of the hero's journey dude yeah i've been i've been trying to read that chad's trying to read that it's dense yeah yeah dude that's a it's a school book basically yeah dude you gotta do power of myth yeah i'll order that too way easier yeah interview all the same juice oh yeah there's an interview it's an interview style yeah it's written interview style oh really yeah so it's bill moyers it's way easier to to digest nice cool not as pretentious no no not nearly because it's not like academic it's more just like it's like for pbs yeah yeah it's meant for mass consumption. Nice. You know what I'm about to mass consume?

Steak. Yeah, baby. Something like that. What are you about to mass consume? I actually didn't know what I was going to say. I just thought it'd be a fun thing to say. Probably this podcast because we got to edit it pretty fast. Yeah.

And then maybe hopefully a book if I finish in time. Oh, nice. Yeah. All right, man. I had a great time chatting with you today. That was fun. Yeah, it was a nice. Yeah. All right, man. I had a great time chatting with you today. That was fun. Yeah, it was a really good time. All right, guys.

Thanks so much for listening, for tuning in, for manscaping your things, and for being stokers. Keep writing in. Keep writing those reviews, dudes. Oh, we have the review of the week. Oh, yeah. Hit them with one, dude. Because we just want to thank you guys.

We get nice reviews, dude. I really appreciate it. It is very nice oh wow all right this comes from jd jdoggrock3 a podcast that is changing the world so nice chad and jt have tapped into something special the way in which their worldviews work together to paint a picture for all the stokers of what a beautiful planet this could be is unrivaled true dogs big dogs oh yes thanks for reminding everybody it's cool to be honest and open with each other that's nice dank review thank you dude all right thanks stokers and thanks for the reviews and uh

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