Going Deep with Chad and JT - Unfiltered Chaos & The Battle of the States 🇺🇸 with BRET BANTA

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

Today we are joined by Bret Banta. We've been friends with Bret for over 10 years and he has appeared in many of our videos but this is his FIRST TIME on the pod! We start off talking about extreme sports and the greats like Tony Hawk, Travis Pastrana, and Dave Mirra, and how the tricks have evolved into something almost unreal today. The second half of the episode we do round 2 of "The Battle of The States!" The bros dive deep on the Midwest and West Coast with a few surprising winners! We are live streaming a fully unedited version of the pod on Twitch, if you want to chat with us while we're recording, follow here: https://www.twitch.tv/chadandjtgodeepGrab some dank merch here:https://appreeshapparel.com/Come see us on Tour! Get your tix - http://www.chadandjt.comTEXT OR CALL the hotline with your issue or question: 323-418-2019(Start with where you're from and name for best possible advice)Check out the reddit for some dank convo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChadGoesDeep/Thanks to our Sponsors:HIMS: The Best Hair Loss solutions for men. Go to https://www.hims.com/godeep and get started today with an online consult with a professional.PRODUCTION & EDITS BY: Jake RohretSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We have this, yeah, we got these coffees. What do you get? And I got, I got sued once and they served me. So I'm serving both of you idea that I was coming. Oh, thank you. It's a great list. Wow, you really went all out. I know, and he's got good, like, uh, bends.

He's got great bends. Benz. So, uh, for the listeners, welcome to the pod. Chad, do you want to kick us off? I think we're firing off. We're nice. All right. So guys, welcome to the pod.

It's me and Chad, and we're here with our very good friend, Brett Banta. Welcome to the pod, Brett. Thank you for having me. Thank you. And we kind of did a fast one on Brett where we told him we were going to draft the greatest extreme sports athletes of all time. Unfortunately, life got in the way. Chad and I weren't able to prepare to the degree we liked to.

That would have made it a solid episode for you. So we're punting on that. But Brett came in with his list. And I don't think it's stealing from later to reel through this thing because it's a you it is and dude i mean you got the classics up here you got tony hawk you got bob burnquist anyway um bill weiss naked 540 can you explain that yeah so i was thinking about when you just sound like tom cruz and a few good event can you explain that that was amazing thank you that was so on it that was well let me tell you what i was thinking lieutenant kaffey no exactly

yeah um so yeah bill i just thought about some people are going to say tony hawk and Yeah, but Bob Bernquist has the mega ramp. You know, he kind of pioneered coming over from And I've been seeing clips online of that one run in like 99 or 2000. Yes, it was insane. Everything was like, I mean, he was like he loses some altitude in the back third of it. Yeah. But I guess he still pulled it off. And the announcers, well, you can tell the announcers because I can't tell the difficulty as well as they can. They're like, oh, dude. Oh, oh, oh. They sounded just like when I showed my parents a report card with like a deed oh yeah they were going great all the announcers were crazy but um bill i thought about like Aaron homoki jaws he will ride he's from Arizona he'll ride off any he'll

ride off a house he's amazing and he's on birdhouse which is behind you like tony hawk got him and then bill weiss did a naked the first naked 540 on youtube oh that's cool he has i forget but anyway it's I thought those should be in there because that's pretty gnarly, you know. So he was fully new. I mean, yeah, that's going to be tough with your dog. God, look at how high up he is on that third to the right one. I can't even see where. And so you're just going to land that?

Oh, you look, is that John. Yeah, Aaron Homochi, that guy is really, really. And I went, I got to go skate with him at Bob Bernquist ramp. Oh, you skated with him? Yeah, him and Dan. And I went there with Danny Way and Colin McKay were there. But Jaws would just drop in. He's a street.

skater but he would he would drop he dropped in on the mega ramp it's crazy so anyway but i thought they would be in good for athletes because yes tony hawk and bob berk was danie way you know danie way jumped out of a helicopter and he also jumped the great wall of china um probably with chinese bearings we don't know but um just can um but i was thinking that uh anyway i don't know these are sports and some of them i feel like i need to do my homework and say motocross i have no interest in it after evil crash you know I'm done with it like he was the best of me yeah he's the ultimate I think they're making a movie about him yeah so for motorcross you got evil caneval Travis pastrana and erika strata Erica strata is bad comedy and I apologize I think

it's good comedy I love it when my brother and I were looking we saw chips we watched her like so cool right after he haul in texas and we're like we're going to find a way to come to california and that brought us and to find a way out for BMX you got mad Hoffman Yes. The inventor of Big Air. Dave Mira, rest in peace, brother. Yeah, I know.

I kind of, yeah. Bummer. And then Jay, no, Jay Mir on. Yeah, you got, yeah, yeah. 540 tail whip.

Wow, no way. Okay. Total ledge. But dude, I love Dave Mirra, love Matt Hoffman. Okay.

Dude, Dave Mirr's video game kind of sneakily as good as the Tony Hawk. Sick. It was so fun. Good soundtrack, too. Those are so fun.

I want to play skate. I keep seeing skate clips. Hmm. Oh yeah, that one was the more realistic one. Like, I remember doing it. I suck at skating and I was like, this is as hard as skateboard. It is really hard, yeah. But I'll watch it if you're good at that, but it's super fun.

It seemed more like the connoisseur game. Yeah. And then surfing. Dude, I saw, okay, so you got Christian Fletcher. You got Bethany Hamilton, who I saw in person. We interviewed her on the pod. No way. And I saw her in person at Poipoo Beach and Kawhi.

And, dude, she's physically super impressive. Really? Oh, just big, strong Amazon. Is she? Oh, yeah. Her husband looks jacked to. He looks like a firefighter. Yeah, their whole crew just was like elite.

Have you seen her surf without? I've never seen her surf without an arm, but how do you paddle into like a way, like how don't understand it's crazy. Or like hold on your board if you get hamburger on. Yeah. It's crazy. Some other female surfers, uh, Carissa Moore. Yeah, yeah, okay.

She's like, she's like the Kelly's, she's like won the most world titles, I believe. Oh, okay. I think I saw her in Fiji. I saw it online or something. Hang gliding Captain Sully. Well, because he's legit. I mean, that's, I don't know any other hang gliders. Yeah.

I thought, I was like, who's really had to do it, like, had to come through? And with huge stakes. Yeah, and the fans were with him in the plane when he did it. Yeah. Just going to throw out. Yeah. They were literally like, he, yeah, he was. Their lives were in his hands.

You put eating on here, Joey Chestnut. Yeah, I thought about eating and like extreme non-eating, like extreme sports. And so I thought about Joey Chestnut's like the hot dog guy. And I thought about like I fast. I fast there and there. But like Gandhi is like the ultimate. And I think fasting sounds like a sport. Yeah.

Like maybe someone thinks it's a car drafting or something. But anyway. And yeah, Gandhi was for sure the most legit at that. Yeah, I think so Yeah Yeah Captive diving Stockton Rush

Yeah so captive So free diving I really wanted to put that Because I love going diving And so The dude went with On one breast 702 feet

And I went with a tank At Catalina I went to 85 feet With my brother And I was like I'm not ever going to He went 702 Yeah with one breath

He had a He had a mechanical You hold on to a sled, right? Something pulls you down. But you still got to come all the way up on your own. How long does that take? I didn't do my research on that far. I don't know.

I just don't know. These guys all died too, doing it. And then their girlfriends are like, I'm going to break his record. We committed to each other that that was our life. Yeah. Yeah. It's, wow. And then.

Yeah. And Stockton Rush is, he's the captain of the Titan. Is it, what is it? the Ocean Gate. Yeah. The Titan. Yeah. So that the one that busted?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I don't know. I just, yeah. He was extreme, though. He really took it to the limit. And he forced people to go in there to be bad.

He forced them to be extreme. Yeah. And then like high profile people, like a billionaire. Okay. You know, some like expert adventures. Okay. Deep Sea adventures. Okay.

And he was so extreme that he, killed them. That's how far dude's not to pay taxes. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm moving to the Titanic. I know, but just how did you get them in there? Just get in. You know, like the submarine.

They're actually rest in peace, though. And then for skydive, you got Keanu Reeves, no parachute transfer to Swayze in the classic point break. Yeah, I was thinking about, I don't know if that's ever been done before or if that really happened or they had a stunt person, but that to me is going out of a plane with no thing really is a gnarly thing. And I think Pistrana did it. Pistrana did it for real.

Oh, really? Yeah. But after, after. I mean, Keanu's the pioneer. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. We interviewed Pistrana, too. We had a great run of guests.

It was like a week after Bethany. It was during COVID. Yeah. They were all willing to do it. Because I remember a long time ago, he was the first guy to do like a double gainer, which was crazy on a motorcycle. I know.

That's insane. Like that whole evolution, because I think Carrie Hart was like the first guy to come close. Okay. But he wasn't. stomping it. Yeah. But he was cool.

He was like the bad boy. Yeah. Like the heart attack. He had great tricks. And then who was the first kind of master? He married pink, right? Yeah. Ryan Deegan?

Ryan Deegan was huge. I mean, Deegan was huge, Pastrana. I don't know who really was like. Mencer? Mike Menser or something like that? No, that's a bodybuilder. I don't remember the other guys. Deegan and Pastrana, I think, were the two top dogs.

Okay. But there's other guys. I remember Tommy Clowers was a good step-up guy. Okay. Triple backflip. Yeah. Josh, he handed a triple backflip?

That's great. Whoa. How do you do a triple? Yeah. That was, because the backflip was unheard of when I was growing up. Yeah. For someone to be doing a triple backflip in just 25 years of evolution.

And the way it, the way it, uh, oh, we did it, the nitro circus thing. Oh, yeah. Where's a two, three. You know what? But that's different than the, that's way different than the X games ramp too. What Pistrano?

Like it just, it has, it's more vertically tilted. And what Pistrana did. It's gives you a way better parabola. What Pistrana did in the X games? What was it, like 2008? Jake, can you pull that up? Pistrana's double backflip?

It was, at the time, it was the most insane thing I've ever seen. Pistrana used to do a trick. When he was doing his road show, he would end up. by hucking a backflip off the tabletop, but he'd send the bike and then he'd land on his feet. Oh, okay, I remember.

I've seen that. And that was kind of the end of the show. Look at this. Yeah, 2006. Which was like, for sure. Look at this, dudes. Look at that. Oh, I remember watching this, dude.

Yeah. And then he also won Golds and Rally Car. Yeah. That was awesome. Super cool. You don't see things like that. Like, um, no. Maybe is, is it?

Instagram and stuff where it's everything. Like on the freeway? Yeah, like I'll be like on the freeway. And but on the Instagram like you just, everything's so crazy now. Yeah. You were just numb to it. Yeah.

It's like how many times can you spin on a skate people or is or snowboarding is like a hundred. Or I'll watch a surfing thing. I'll be wowed by. I'll be like, whoa, that was crazy. And now I'll just keep watching it and eventually I'm like, yeah, that's all right. Right. You know what I mean? And it's like when I was growing up,

dirt biking was the most extreme thing on TV, but now I can pop on my phone and I can see a drone strike on a Russian tank. That's it, yeah. That's the new X games. Dude, I watched. That hits extreme. Dude, foreign war is brought to you by Taco Bell.

Yeah. Hey, everyone should be making money and getting sponsored. Dude, Chigas got me on to, I didn't even look it up. Chigas was in the car and he was like, yeah, I watched like war fighting on social media. Is he really? Yeah. Like he'll watch guys like jump into a trench in Ukraine.

Really? And like clear it out. Really? Mm-hmm. Like live stream? Chad's surprised because Chigas is a super mellow, chill dude. I don't think it's live. I don't know if it's not live stream, but it's on this Reddit called, I don't really.

Warfare, right? Yeah, yeah. But basically they have like gopros on their head and then they put up. And they kill people. You see him kill people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The wildest shit is like, when it's like a drone, like this happens in Ukraine and Russia,

there's like a drone that'll chase a guy for like 500 yards. I've seen that before. This is the one I just saw. This is what I was bringing out. Yeah. It's so wild. No. Okay, so you see this Russian dude.

It's like, it's like, it looks like it's in a Colin brothers movie in terms of like he's like, oh, yeah. And then you don't see the drone explode because it's the drone's POV. But it comes right up to him and he's like, falling down and then it cuts out. And it just flies into him and explodes? Yeah. Wow. Do you watch these Jake? Yeah, it's pretty. I don't watch it a lot because it kind of gets depressing after a while. Why is that? I'm way behind. It's real life, dude. Yeah, it just really like, with the technology and the drones and stuff, the footage has really started to come out lately in the last

like five years of warfare. And it's just posted online everywhere. And if you really start looking, you can, there's so much of it out there. It's insane. Does it make, does it make you want to enlist? No, actually the opposite.

Can I say so? When I got the text about this, I was driving and I looked at this. You're watching warfare? No, I was driving and it said John Parr draft the one thing, because he sent me three messages and it was like, we're doing a draft. but when I looked at my first thought was like instantly I was thinking about the draft of military and I was thinking about when I got laid off from a job a long time ago I called my mom and said I was let go from Sapient which was closed by her and my mom's kind of a gnarly person and she's like oh yeah well you might get drafted you might go to Fallujah that was her thing to me being laid off for the first time from a job and anyway when I saw draft

draft. It said John Part draft. I was like, anyway. So do you mind if I psychologically probe that for a moment? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. She's gone. So when your mom would respond to bad news by presenting a harsher reality, was that her way of not letting the bad news make her sad by instantly going to things could be worse? No, no. I think she just really likes messing with me and my brother and just, yeah.

Oh, wow. She liked it chaotic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you never knew when you came home from school, you never knew what you were going to get, like what was going to happen. And like with, like I'm a substitute teaching.

I'll say it. I'll admit it. I subsute teach. And that's huge. Which is an extreme sport, which is an extreme thing, you know, it's,

you never know what's going to happen. You're expendable. And it, it's, I don't know how to describe it, but it's, yeah, I don't know.

It's just, I'll honestly we got hit a lot in PE like in Texas if you mess something up you got they'd hit you

you know Was what like a bat? No we had no Not a bat Not a bad no One military school But it was like a wooden There's like a wooden thing

Or whatever And yet they'd hit A switch Yeah like a like a Palm leaf Or like a like a piece of wood So Where did you get hit?

You got hit in your butt You got you had to so And so like if that's me If like a teacher's swings on me, I'm probably going to fuck his ass up. Did you ever kind of return fire? No. And I, I never got hit, but my mom did the hitting. So I got hit at home, but other people got hit at school. But what I'm getting at is like the kids today are so soft that the parents kind of rule. Yeah, the parents, you can tell kids have not gotten, gotten, you know, parents are beating them beat up and

beating them up. And like I had to take role for a class and it was like sixth grade science. and I walked up and I was like have the seating chart. I'm like, and of the first desk I went to, it was this girl. I'm like, hey, you got to get in your right in your correct seat so I can take role.

I just need to get roll. And then I'll be cool. I can be the cool sub like you guys can work as work in pairs, but just getting your proper seat. She's like, I feel like you're targeting me. And I was like, I never,

no one ever said targeting to me before. And I'm smart. Kind of surprised me. And, and she's in the sixth grade. And I, and she's like, I feel uncomfortable right now.

I'm like, you need to get in your seat. And she's like, I feel like you're targeting me. And then I wanted to tell her in the sixth grade, I broke my leg, my ankle skateboarding in Dealey Plaza where JFK got was hurt. We parade him's son there on the X's. Oh, even? Okay. Yeah, where he got shot. Okay.

Yeah. And so, so I broke my ankle. And then my brother helped put me in the car in my mom's car and John Garrett helps as well. And on the way to the hospital. I was the same hospital. JFK went to Parkman for my leg. But on the way, there was a McDonald's off Stimmons, and my mom literally went to get an iced tea,

and I chewed on a shoe. She went to get an iced tea. How messed up is that? And so I want to tell a girl, like, dude, I'm targeting you. Like, you got to kind of toughen up, you know? So did you hit her? No, no, no, no, no, no. But, but, but, it's, it's, what did you say?

I said, I mean, there's nothing I can you can't you can't say like I had to take right I'd go and take roll and I can't I can't raise my voice you know so so she stayed in the seat that wasn't the correct she eventually got up but there's an aid that helped me but just I'm saying the kids are just it's crazy and so um like I subbed in in Long Beach and for P.E and the kids will get the they're like they can't play soccer in the grass like they have to play soccer on the basketball all the cement. I'm like, why. And they were saying that the parents complain because they get grass stains on their clothes. So it's crazy. Anyway, I got a question for you. Yeah. One of my

favorite questions to ask my teacher friends is, what's the craziest modern name that you've had to take role on? Is there anything like crazy? Modern name. Yeah, there's like crazy stuff these days. Like it used to be like Chuck, Terry. You know? No, yeah, yeah. No, there's some crazy. I mean, it's it's, in that class, there's a justice. So, um, But there's not, I mean, a lot of the names are definitely, there's like Russian names. There's like all, I mean, it's, it's hard to pronounce, you know. But there's no, there's no, yeah, I mean, there's not. I know what I'm going to name.

A good question though. Sorry, go. I know what I'm going to name my future son. Gange. That's good. Okay. Gondg. Gange.

Gange. Okay. Okay. Okay. Do you think that'll keep him from smoking weed? I was going to ask, is that what it means? Gondra? It can.

Okay. It's actually a family name. Okay. Passed out. Gondg. Yeah, it's passed to the left. Yeah, I think Gange. Just Gange, yeah.

But there's any middle name? No. No last name. me they're just Jujanji Jukanji Jumanji Jumongji

um yeah there's that's a good think about the names because there are names that are like I can't I have to ask a student

to help me because I can't the names are there are there a lot of names you can't pronounce there's a lot of them that that I can't but it's it's um

that but sometimes the kid will help they'll see you struggling like at P.E and then they'll walk I'm like just say Ted I'm Ted.

I'm Ted. I'm like, thank you. So I was like, Ted? And that's it. So there's a, there's a Russian girl that is like, I couldn't do her name. And she just said, Jane, I'm Jane. So sometimes I'll help you with that. Oh, that's cool.

But, yeah. I mean, so we've known Brett. How long we know, we've known you over 10 years. Yeah, man. I was talking we're at Burbank. I think I told Jake, we're at Burbank at a mic at like one of the morning. Oh, yeah. waiting to do 30 seconds.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then people that would wait all night, they're like, how's everybody doing the night? Then they're done. They've even gotten their, to try their joke. Yeah, so we've come along. Yeah, do you remember, like,

flappers late night? Yes, dude. And you'd just be waiting to get up and they'd be like, ah, we're done for it. You like, yeah. You wouldn't get up sometimes. Yeah.

Dude, somebody's after three hours. Yeah, no, no, no. I have a great photo of, like, at flappers of Brian Vokey. We're sitting there in the front row of the Uhoo room waiting to get up and he's just staring at the person on stage. It's so good. For the listeners, I mean, Brett, a hilarious comedian. Thank you.

You've been a number of our videos, always so, so funny. Thank you. And just a great guy too. Thank you. Man, you guys, yeah, it's so the thing at the DMV, I was dying, man. Oh, that was so funny. I was nervous. Like, you guys are crushing.

it was just that was so good I'd like to pour one out for the Culver City DMV we've been shooting the movie recreation scenes there for probably a year we've probably been there

20 to 25 times we started like we almost a year I think May first one was maybe the top gun yeah and we've gotten so many great moments out of there like and the people we've met and how hospitable everyone was

it's been amazing but we had an incident a couple weeks ago inside the DMV. It was mostly my fault. And today we were shooting there. And security pulled me over and he said, you are a persistent man. Is that what he said? Yeah, he was quick.

And I go, I go, is it over? He's like, yeah, you guys. He's like, I think, I think that's going to be it, man. Wow. That's cool. I said, all right, man. And we shook hands. And then he's like, go to Target.

I was like, we'll go to Target. that's so funny that's how he said it yeah what's funny is I go there to like renew my license and stuff that is your home that's awesome in your flight suit oh yeah and dude oh the you had Shrider crush it goodwill hunting you guys found that lady that was exactly like the lady in the

that was like I forgot and you you were playing Ben Affleck yeah he's playing Ben Heflick yeah do we have Ockley can you do your Boston accent for We parked the car for our, I can't do it. The odd class, the odd class. Yeah, so for the listeners, Brett was in our Goodwill hunting reenactments. He played Ben Affleck. And in the part where, you know, Ben Affleck's trying to ask out, what's her name?

Mini driver. Mini driver. Yeah, minotry, yeah. And your Boston accent was all time. And you had the, you had the epic line. Yeah. AI is wicked smart. No, yeah, yeah.

And it was funny, I was driving there. I'm like, man, I don't know. I like, I went to Logan Airport. And what's funny is Jake and I were talking about our accents, like Theo Von's accent. I'm like, my parents made me, my brother go to boarding school in New Hampshire because she was embarrassed of our country accents. But when I went to Logan Airport, I asked someone a question. They're like, oh, why? Yeah.

I'm like, I can't do that. So when I was driving to the thing, I'm like, all I know is at the at, that's all that's the easiest word. because that's why I said the art, but that was amazing. Were we an art class together? Yeah. And the wig, that strider at, I mean, it was incredible. That's like its own sketch, like, or, I mean, it was so good the way. And he didn't even break.

He was like, yeah, well, my contention is the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, man, you guys faces, I had to look away or pretend to tie my shoe. Like, it was, that one was, um. Yeah, it was wicked smart. Yeah, but just the, um, man, there was, a lot where I'm like, oh my God, we're so dead. Like, you guys are going to get shot. Remember when we were doing, we were at night doing the thing with a mask on.

Oh, yeah. And then we were knocking on people's doors. And I was stoked. Oh, is this from Academy of Chad? Yeah. We were inviting people to. Donna and Jim. Oh, yeah.

We were asking. So the bit was that Brett, Brett knew where a sex party was happening. Donna and Jim's, man. Yeah. Where an orgy was. And so we were just knocking on doors. Oh man. Is this where the Orgy is?

I watched too much forensic files. I thought when he was going to get a shotgun blast. Like I was glad he was in front of me. But it was a good way to go. When you're walking up, I don't know who was there, but they're like, there's letting you know he's dressed up. He's going to walk in. So don't be shocked.

Jack comes in like just like, hey, hey, how's it going, Brett? How's it going? Like just dead pain. Like, how's it going? Okay, we're going to start a minute. And then and then we were at David Busters where, as a. parent you'll probably know you just you're going to have a seizure in there it's just like games do do do do do do and it was this dude the arcade is so intense i can't yeah i can't it's we were at the

burbank mall we took him to the arcade and within three seconds i was like this is an assault yeah it's it's i don't like the i i yeah but i pretend i mean it was amazing watching chat with the mask on but you love that gift mask dude it was that one time yeah yeah yeah He's still a rocket, don't you? I mean, I still rock it personally. I try to get you to get me one and you're like, I'm the gimp guy. All right, it's your corner. Call me a couple flies.

That was from Bruce Willis movie. Now I've got to get through the Bruce. Pulpiction. Pulp fiction, yes, you got it. Dude, you just won a Tony Hogdick. It's right behind him. Dude, caught me some fly. I mean, you wore that, man.

I was just, oh man, call me some flies. Is that what he calls that? Speaking of picking the weapons when he's when he's handing with the thing, dude, when Baird and I, Baird, if you're out there and you're watching this, I'm just letting you know, our mom would like go, hey, if you don't, you're going to go to your dad for 48 hours. If you don't come back with a child war check, Tom's going to happen to you that. We knew we'd get hit. But we would take the beating.

With the what? We would just get hit. But she would lay. With a what check? Oh, if we don't get back for the, sorry, for the, when you go to visit our dad, so like if you don't get the, if you don't come back with a child support check,

you're probably going to get hit. I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know how I'm feeling, but we'll see. So it kind of push us to get the check. And so, um,

so it was like pressure. And it was always when 60 minutes was like on a Sunday night. She'd hit you during six months. No, no, in Sunday. No, when we knew after all, college football.

Yeah. After, after two lane loss, my dad would be in a bad mood. 60 minutes would come on. after 60 minutes was over my he would take us back to our our mom's house so that would always be pressure that's our last chance to ask our dad for the child support check but anyway what i'm getting back to public fiction is that my my mom my mom would my mom would lay out stuff to get hit with

and she'd be like pick what you're going to get hit with that's good well hunting too really yeah he'd put out the wrench he'd put out the belt and he'd put out the no way okay so she was a brush so she had a brush belt um i think it was like a hanger but here's the thing so i she was like a sociopath to a dude totally i'd like to know i'd really like bern i like to and i i can't i was trying enough time to tell about her passing away and how we went and helped her and got through that and we went to water burger after her last breath you know just four girls came in and cleaned her up and then we went to water burger in phoenix across the street just to kind of eat processed food and process our mom's death kind of thing.

But she would be like, you know, I would never want to get hit with a brush because it's not fun. But I would pick something else and that you're like, now you get the brush type thing. But what I'm doing now is when I'm out there and I see yard sales in the Melrose area, I will try and save other kids. So I'll buy up as many extension cords as I can. that was a joke but I'm sorry that's what

that's good we had to get yeah I mean I'll think about it you know I was just getting derailed by the trauma brother by the what I was hooking into the trauma

bit oh yeah yeah it's it's a but you know it's good it's a blessing to have a twin brother because you can trade off getting hit who's gonna get hit first and he's like you know bigger dude

so I let him see how much my mom couldn't you know I will say we when you see it when I sub and you see all kids are today like my brother and I like when you get hit early on I think part of it and you know like you have a single mom that's got to deal with kids and the two boys shouldn't know what do with and she would hit us and we would be quiet we would shut the fudge up and just be respectful like we weren't we weren't allowed to yell out you know or be loud anywhere and so that part of it was good um for us but um but I was also going to

thinking about with the with the boarding school thing I I remember when I went to boarding school, we had to go in separate, you know, my brother and I were split apart. But the first night, my roommate, his name was Brett too. And I heard him in the corner going, he was like crying. I'm like, dude, what's up? Like, why are you, what's wrong? Are you good?

And he's like, I miss my mom. And I'm like, dude, Brett, aren't you from Canaan, New Hampshire? And he's like, yes, 30 minutes away. And I'm like, dude, you're, and he's like, don't you miss your. family and I'm like dude I'm on vacation I'm not gonna get hit tonight like I was stoked and he was like wait so you liked boarding school a lot no I didn't but I I didn't like it but I like being away from my mom you know this it was just a break to not get hit and just meet new new what was the name of boarding school you went to cardigan mountain do you know that one mm-mm yeah because he's a boarding

school guy oh okay yeah yeah yeah cardigan mountain I don't know I know where my butter knife is No, I'm just kidding, but... Is that a pretty woman? No, no, no, no. Just you... You have to know where you're silverware is. Oh, that looks nice. Is it a nice school?

It was Cardigan Mountain. Was it tough? Yeah, I mean, you had to like sit up and like dress up and it was... But it was purely to break our Texas accents. And for my mom during that time, probably to find another stepdad. That's my joke. Did she find another step?

Yeah, yeah, no. There's always a new, yeah, it was a new. I had multiple stepdad's growing up. And it, yeah, sometimes he can't believe like, like, I don't know, my mom, yeah, my mom's was really a competitive person. And, you know, she reminds me of Kobe Bryant. You know, they both had five rings. So, and I say had because they're both gone.

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So we're firmly in the second round. We've gone through the first pruning process, and now we're going to pick here. This is Ukraine, Russia, the war? No, I'm kidding. Yeah, we're going to pick who goes to the Sweet 16 for best states in America. Okay. Jake, you want to take it away?

Yeah. So we're now officially in the Midwest, and based off population, Illinois gets a buy. So we're going to go Indiana versus Iowa. and I have no bias here so Indiana versus Iowa I mean Indiana has Indianapolis

I like Indianapolis St. Elmo's great steakhouse Great steakhouse Pat McAfee Always Gary Indiana That's where Michael Jackson's from The Hick from French Lick

Larry Bird There we go Stolen by bird Stolen by bird Is uh Is it's good Illinois Okay so

Iowa I loved Iowa when we went It's um Went to Des Moines Beautiful It's great We were there for the fair too Yeah

What a party Great people Jake's from Iowa Shout out Jake Best wrestlers Best wrestlers Best wrestlers But what

You got something Yeah I urinated in the bathroom I saw the photos From the photos It looked like he was from Iowa It was like Deer Yeah, it's corn land.

There's a 12 point. Better hunting in Iowa, right? Yeah, it's a, yeah, better white tail, I think, in Iowa. But there's probably something, you know. But the problem with these two is they're very similar. It's a lot of farming. It's a lot of, you know, there's not a whole lot going on. It's a lot of agriculture.

All right, so for you, Iowa and the Elite 8, first time they're there since 1987. Huge. They're playing in Illinois. I feel like you guys can win that one. but the reason I'm going to go Indiana is because Notre Dame my brother went there prestigious university

Rudy the backdrop of college football and then sneaky sneaky they might get the Bears stadium I know I saw that I text a future bet too I text Chud about it I'm like what's going on here he's like it's bullshit

when Chud like you know he's the ultimate Bears fan dude that's are you do you are you fan of sports Brett my team is gone um they're there they're the houston oilers are gone they're no more were you an earle campbell guy yeah was Earl Campbell my brother and I were living in Colorado and we were like dude we go to veil and just drive there and just and then power back from Boulder because we live in Boulder and we're going to go for the day because it was just it was amazing but we watched the first quarter like Kennyborough I mean, so it was they're playing in the playoffs against the Buffalo Bills.

And anyway, we went skiing or we went snowboarding. And then on the way back, we heard the Oilers gave, they're up by like 23 points or something. And my team, that's who I liked. Was Warren Moon their quarterback? Yeah, he was so good. Yeah. And there was a, my dad knows a dude, Dan Pastorini, who was like a great name. Yeah, he, yeah, it's kind of like the pastromi guy.

the double backflip pastrami dude that was a joke sorry all right so who you guys picking uh I'll go Indiana I'm going I'm going Iowa that's one of the court choices Iowa I want to Iowa because

Jake is a good person and I had to go to the bathroom he was a nice dude I'm going to Iowa I like that personal we'll have Indiana move on but a couple last things sliced bread was invented in Iowa really Shout out. The first digital computer was developed at Iowa State.

Wow. That's huge too. The oldest mosque in America? Pretty wild, huh? Wow. And the Wright brothers lived in Cedar Rapids for four years, which is where I'm from. But they're from the Carolinas, right? They're from Ohio.

Technically, they were born in Ohio, but they lived there during their teenage years, which are airports named after them. Where's Shitty Hawk or wherever? Shitty Hawk. North Carolina. Okay, Jake, we'd also give you one veto in this draft. Do you want to use it now? No, I think it's pretty fair to pick Indiana over Iowa.

They're very similar. It would be like a coin flip. Is it a veto? Is that like a filibuster? What does that mean? I think it's the same kind of lane. It just means you can overturn the vote. Okay.

All right. The next two states are Michigan versus South Dakota. Oh, Michigan. Yeah, I think Michigan's pretty much a no-brainer here. What do you think, Brett? I like their helmets. I like the Navy with the yellow. It just, it looks like they're going to go to war.

What about the Upper? Upper Peninsula? Oh, yeah. Beautiful. American Pie. Traverse City, dude. Traverse City. The cherries?

Cherries. Then you go to Macon Island. You get the fudge. Get fudge. Great Lakes. great summers there. Everyone talks about a Michigan summer.

You know, yeah, you got Kid Rock on a boat. Detroit Rock City. Then you got, I mean, South Dakota, yeah, has Mount Rushmore.

It's got Custer State Park. You know, it's got 1,300 free Roman bison, pronghorn, big horn sheep. Oh, I've never been to South Dakota

of you? No. Have you? No, no. I've seen North by Northwest, the movie and there's amazing

like fight scene at um oh yeah it's amazing the way like oh really it's a moonlight thing and it's they have some amazing uh i forgot the guys named carrie grant i know it's old but my dad so handsome my dad beat me and tell bear night numbskin my dad made us watch that north by northwest and it was a really good it's a great and you're from iowa like they had crop duster with a guy trying to kill him it's famous he's in a he made a suit famous and if you go to sunset to all of her people's my mom He's called Oliver Peepers. They have a model for that, for the, I don't know if it's Gregory Peck, but they have like for the glasses he won't.

Sorry about that. Those Cury Grant, like Hitchcock movies are funny too because every chick is trying to sleep with them. Like in every scene, it kind of makes sense in North by Northwest by the end of it. But it's always this fun like just historical style where they're like, look, if you're a dude and you're in your 40s, Chicks want to bang you. That's cool.

It was a good message. That's cool. It's all suits. Have you noticed that? I think, I mean, as you get older, I feel like you're more confident, you know, like you don't care. Like you're, my swag is definitely boost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. I mean, and, and.

I've noticed. When you're, yeah, when you're younger, you're like, what? So it's, it's, yeah, I feel like you're more relaxed. Yeah, I used to do this. And you save your energy. You got to go through, say, conserve your energy, I guess. Yeah, there's that famous parable where the young man is with a veteran herder. He says, Philip, let's run down the hill and have sex with one of the sheep.

And then the veteran herder says, no, let's walk down and have sex with all of them. Now, was that, was that there will be blood with HW? No, I'm kidding. No, I'll call back. Call back. Sorry, okay. Call me back. All right.

So like I said this last week, but the problem with the Midwest region is a lot of them are very similar. Like a lot of them are pretty much exactly the same. They just have a border in between them. But I want to give some love to the South Dakota people. We did give Michigan the win, but you got Mount Rushmore. I don't know if you guys said that or not. Sturgis motorcycle motorcycle

motorcycle rally is huge I think it's the biggest in the country and South Dakota yeah and then the bad lanes so oh the bad lanes

when I was a kid and we'd go to Wyoming the hells angels a lot of bikers but the hells angels would drive through Sturgis would drive through Jackson on their way to Sturgis

and one time they took over a hotel held people hostage, killed one guy. It was one of their own who got out of control. And I don't think anyone was ever arrested. Really? Then they just left? They just left and kept going. That's cool. That's, that's cool. Wasn't there like a big motorcycle shootout? Yes. In OC down by where you grew up, JT? Oh yeah. It Cook's Corner. Where we shot, uh, we used to do these videos on

little bikes, e-bikes, and we'd pull up and be like, hey, I'm, I'm, uh, big, big rod. Big rod and, and like the rooster or something. Yeah, big rod and the, fuck. What was it? Big rod and the, I forget, but we, we'd pull up and, uh, yeah, we, we weren't taking it too serious, but they ended up being a shooting there. Dude, we should become bikers. I mean, I'm down.

Brett, you want to become a biker? I will do a double game. right now no I'm kidding would you be daff if we got you leathers you could do that would you ride with us yeah but when you ride are we talking like yellow Yamaha zizi are you talking about like a heavy Harley like a Harley okay okay yeah I feel like I I can't pull it off I think you could I don't for who you know you're right I yeah you know what I dude my parents saw easy riders one it's a one movie they went and saw together when they dated they saw jai nicholson in in 1969 or easy writer that's an amazing

yes i want to see someone who's truly free that's good that's good yeah that's good swamp i love nicholson in that sorry he's incredible yeah the movie's like kind of eh you know it's weird it's super episodic yeah it's like the family's eating and then he's like yeah no i mean it you got a real good spread here but it doesn't move until jack nicholson gets out of he's the lifeblood yeah and i heard he got paid like six hundred dollars or something that's it i know i that's just what i heard but yeah but the hog is a harley davidson i'm that's a gnarly you know i'd like to see pristrana do a double on on a harley davidson that'd be cool and for the young brolitz who are curious about film but don't know the history easy writer created basically the independent film scene that's what

Jump started the 70s on tour movies as well. So it was a, even if it doesn't feel great when you watch it, it was seminal. Nice. Yeah, I think also they had, that was the first movie where they went and did it on their own. And they were like, I mean, they, a company helped them, but they were like, we, we are going to pick the music. So that was the first soundtrack. Yeah, they had, yeah, like, seven scores. Yeah, we're doing it what's now, dude.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Who directed it? Dennis Hopper. Oh, Dennis Hopper, dude? Yeah. Check the flag on that bike. He's a legend, dude.

Yeah. That was a, anyway, that's, I don't know if I could do the Hells Angels. I can't believe you guys talk to Mongols, man. That's a, that's a, that's a- No, we talked to their helper. We didn't talk to the legit Mongols. But we did, it was pretty ballsy. I went up, but I was like, you guys want to shoot content.

Can you imagine we move on our little mini-bikes? They would be really fun. Oh, Big Rod and the Slayer. That's what it was. Big Red, I'm Big Rod and I'm the Slayer. We're looking for Donna and Jim. Yeah, yeah. And also, I think Devo wrote a song about the Mongols.

Mongoloid is a Mangalore. It was a great song. We were trying to push the Netflix series, too. If they would have killed one of us, it would have been. It would have been number one. Ratings would have been gangwows. Yeah. All right, fellas, let's move on to the next one.

We got Washington, or Washington, Wisconsin versus Nebraska. Oh, this one's tough, dude. a chick from Kearney, Nebraska. What up? But I got to go, Wisconsin. It's beautiful. I got to Wisconsin too. You got the cheese.

You got everyone there parties. They party hard. They love to drink beer. You got the Packers. You got great lakes. And Madison is... Madison. Madison's probably my favorite town in all of America.

My dad loves Wisconsin. It's awesome. Whistling Straits, that's where we went. often. We went golf? Yeah. What about you? A pass.

I don't know which one. I don't know too much. I haven't been to either one. I do like, I do like, I mean, I think Wisconsin has rad stuff like Okonoshua or like cities like that that are kind of interesting. Okinawa? I know. I know that's a little bit, a little bit west of here.

I'd never been there. I'd like to go there. Okainawa is like the Hawaii of Japan I don't know It's good cute Like a lot of military yeah That's a lot of military? Yeah military

You've been to Japan a lot right? Yeah yeah no it's good It's I go with my family and Is your wife your wife's from Japan Yep yep Well she's from here she's from here but her family's from here Oh she's from Japan okay yeah yeah What's your favorite what's your favorite that's Okinawa

Really? Mm-hmm. Wow. Oh, that's all. Yeah, they're... What's your favorite part of Japan? I like, I mean, I like Hiroshima because it's so people are on bikes, it's really mellow. And you've been there a lot.

Do you see, like, remnants of the bomb? Yeah, yeah. In Hiroshima, you see, you see, I mean, there's a whole building that's everything, like, as it was. Really? And I went through the atomic bomb museum. It was, it was, uh, it was, uh, Yeah, it was an interesting experience. So, yeah, there's Tokyo and Osaka's like kind of baseball, but Hiroshima.

Yeah, there's the building there. And it's great there. They have like a state park. So they just preserved it as is. Yeah, yeah. Everything's as is. And then in the, in the museum, it is the most hardcore museum I've ever been through. Really?

They have, like, it's pretty hard to walk through. Like the photos and. Yeah, yeah. Like I have actual things that are melted and. Oh, wow. And it's like, I think if everybody walked through that, they would be, you know, people wouldn't be like on the 405 like, yeah, you get, you know, it's like, dude, it would humble people. So. Yeah.

And I like, I mean, Tokyo's amazing. You can just, you know, I've been there before drinking and after drinking, you know, being sober, being more competent. But like you can just, what I like about Tokyo is you can drink. You know, I'll go with my friends and drink. My friend, shout out to Shoda and Take, are two good friends of mine out there. and we would just go you can go drink put money in get a beer but then if it's seven in the morning you can like put money in a thing and get like steak like meat oh really and like chocolate and a coca cola you can't do that here wow and they're vending machines yeah like no they have like a thing

where it's like a thing that's 24 hour that you can just put in and you get your food will come out or whatever it's like pieces of meat like um and the food's amazing so and the people are supposed to be extremely polite. They're, yeah, they're really, they're like, everything's designed like really well. And, uh, you guys would love it. You guys would like you guys, I'd love to check it out. It's so clean and, and, and, uh, well thought out. So I got to say I, in L.A, I've been in L.A.

Since 1994, but I get, it takes me a time to I'll get, I've seen a lot of stuff on the freeway. I'll get anxious. You know, in L.A., you have to kind of be aggressive or you're never going to get in a lane. Yeah. But I went with Shoda and Take to Costco, Tokyo, and I was in the backseat out. And I was like, there's a spot. Shota, there's a spot. Get, get, get, get, get, get, get.

And he was like, bread. Like, Taijobu, like, we're good. But I was afraid, like in Japan, we got the spot. Like, they don't, there are just. People aren't cutting each other off. Exactly. And they're not fighting for spots. Exactly.

Yeah. So it was kind of cheap to go to Japan recently, right? I know. It's a way. It's way. Like the yen was pretty weak. so everybody was going over there yeah it was yeah it's it's definitely a good time to go that might be it you actually how far is japan from australia flying what i don't know but you see australian you see

the all these oh well i was i was doing my mark akalupo um impression ozies have the best like music scene right now and i think it's because they're the only white culture that isn't self-conscious about being white oh nice So they'll do a rock song and they won't be like, but I'm like a cornball for doing this. They're just like fucking rock and row rock, bro. Yeah. I like to an excess.

Dude. I mean, it's in the 80. Bo, I think one of the most underrated rock bands of all time. No, yeah. And the singer was extreme too. He, he was, you know, he went out, did a belt around the good way. Yeah, he did what you did.

He knew Donovan Jim. Autoerotic asphyxia. He died that way? Yeah. And David Carradine, you had him on your list. And he was a hot dude. Really? Yep.

Dude. And he did songs like, Need You Tonight. Yeah. That if you ever want to fuck. Yeah. This time will be the last time that we will blah, blah, blah. Forget the lines. Sorry.

But then we'll never. Give a quick shout out to half shell sender. Half shell shredder. He lives in Tasmania, Australia. Really? He's in the chat. He said, what up? I dated a girl from Tasmania.

She was Tazzy. But if you went to her IG profile, she said she was from Melbourne. Dude, you kind of good. No, that was English. No, no, it was English, but it was solid, man. I thought you were announcing Wimbledon, too. I used to tell her, I was like, tell people you're from Tasmania. She's like, no, everyone thinks we're like not cool out there.

Go back to odd class. Oh, that's all. Go back to art. Join people born. Will we be an art? Art class? I love your faith. You're just something.

When you guys, back to the DMV, Can we go back to the people? Yeah. When you, when you, oh man, you guys were, the people in line were sitting in chairs

like, dude, what is going on when you were, oh, so good. Sorry. I mean, Topka at the DMVs. Yeah. Are you guys getting a case?

Are you guys getting a case like for Strider's wig? Like, is that going to be in the Smithsonian? That thing's amazing. It's an amazing wig. All right. What's the next day?

Yeah, let's keep it pushing. The next one we got is Kansas versus Colorado. And before you guys say anything, I just want to put that Colorado is one of my favorite states in America, top five for me.

And I got to go Kansas. That's the end of our boy, dude. Jake got dunk, dude. You're good, but you're good, dude. Kansas, I don't really know what Kansas has.

Topeka. It has a, was it Dorothy my grandma's from there I think basketball was invented there basketball was invented there I mean Colorado is an amazing state you got the Rockies you got Aspen

Aspen's an incredible city town because you call it Denver's cool What there's a gnarly serial killer from Kansas I think it's kind of gnarly Oh really? What's his name? God he has glasses I don't know I saw on our show Oh no basketball is invented in Massachusetts

Massachusetts. Oh, yeah, Ed Gein, is he from Kansas? I think it's got a couple gnarly people, residents that are big Kansas. Oh, you know what? Slipknot is from Iowa. Oh. Shout out Slipknot. Don't they have gnarly tornadoes?

Yeah. Oh. Okay. Yeah, but I think, I mean, Colorado, I think this one's kind of a no-brainer. You got South Park guys. You got great outdoors. The best snow. The best snow.

from Kansas. That's what I was going to say. BTK. Dennis something. Colorado, happy people. Very happy people in Colorado. Dude. The best comedy club in America.

Comedy works. Comedy works. My brother went to Western State in Gunnison, Colorado. And shout out to Harlan Hudson. And I was taking care of my mom with cancer in Florida, flew up to see my brother. And I got a crazy thing on my face on my, like a golf ball the next day. Because we were so high.

I went from below elevator. but I don't like how thin the air is and I know that's why the guy the Manning brother can throw he threw bombs because the air is so thin but I didn't like how thin the air is in Colorado like everybody's in good shape like you can't smoke cigarettes anyway but I mean living in Boulder I got to pick like I'll pick the I mean it is a healthy state and it does have good snow I think I just jumped you in turn I apologize no no okay but they have I mean their ski lifts are beautiful yes there's no order here yeah they don't have good Mexican food but it's it's yeah yeah I think so I went to Chipotle there either it is Mexico okay okay um me in the Boulder Boulder mall they have wave rave that's a good clothing company oh nice so I think isn't it uh Cudoba isn't that the better Polway out there it's pretty bomb oh maybe yeah so Brett and in one of our videos we said you were

an orgy guy are you not an orgy guy now and I I didn't not that would that skit going on knocking on doors I just yeah I don't like crowds that I tried to go with it as best I could um but you know just oh man I still see that mask in my fate in my head really we just talked about Kansas to BTK guy he had something like that and it's just yeah it's just unchillate we didn't find on in jim you know they moved back to kansas bind torture kill yeah so gnarly yeah it was like on a sunday show if we could rename btk what would you think is like better acronym would be i thought it would be like a free meal from burger king i thought it'd be like a burger king meal but it's like you know btk i think that's like a KFC like they want to change it from fry.

You know, they want to make it more clean. Yeah, I mean, BK, great. Burger King. Yeah. Dude, if you, I've been going to Beach Boulevard and I'll get it. I'll get two hamburgers from when I go to take care of my farmland. I'll get two hamburgers regular from, from Burger King. Then I'll go to McDonald's.

They have the best coax. I get fries. And that's why I'm heavy right now. But Burger King have the best hamburgers. Really? Yeah, over McDonald's. I feel like Burger King has fallen off so hard. Burger King has?

I don't know. Yeah, their fries are not good. I just don't know anybody who goes to Burger King. I know. I do. I take, I love it. You being the fucking rock solid exception. Okay.

But outside of you, if I know people who are outside of you. But people I know who are doing fast food, Taco Bell, McDonald's, doing it out. If you keep. That's right. Burger King just around, what do you think? Like 2000, it was over? I think it had to run up until like 2004. I will say this.

There's a bacon. Maybe that's Wendy's. The Baconator? That's Wendy's. They do have a bacon burger. That's really good. I heard Wendy's is falling off. Yeah.

Wendy is falling off. It's terrible. And I don't trust the hamburger either. Do you guys heard of shrinkflation? No Yeah, it's Snickers Dude, the snicker bars are smaller

I'm not kidding Yeah They're charging the same But the stuff's getting smaller Wow It's thinner, it's thinner, yeah Chipotle's a good example They're giving less portion

Yeah, let's see Oh look at that Go to second row All the way to the right And they're able to do that Because of the health craze now Isn't that wild? the shrinkflation if you really do go to a cell phone get a get a snicker bar look at it is thinner

um wow yeah that's wild yeah damn do you ever think we were born a little too late do you guys like imagine if we were born in like in like 70s i think i think 50 oh yeah the beatings Oh, the booms? The boomers? Yeah, if we were boomers. I mean, dude, you're an economist I like on substack, Noah Smith. I think he drilled this. There's the revolution of rising expectations.

What you're echoing, we don't get pissed off when things are bad. We get pissed off when they're worse than we thought they'd be. Yeah. And so, like, even though GDP today is strong relative to someone in, like, you know, 1950, it's coming down and our brains can't handle that. Yeah. When it happened in Chile. Because we just think things are supposed to just get better and better and better.

I think they are. Yeah. You know, and that's my mistake as a person. Yeah. But you do expect things to just continue to grow. Just keep getting better and better. Yeah. Totally.

And so when you see things like shrinkflation or gas prices and debt just rising, you're like, yeah. And people are like, it's still pretty good. And you're like, yeah, but it's, it was supposed to be better than this. It's supposed to be awesome. Yeah. That's why I keep a hose in my truck is I siphon gas now.

You do? It's going to get to a hole. Wait, what's got? This dude's saying in Australia, gas is at 11 bucks? Whoa. Dude, you've seen the road warrior? They got to do what they got to do.

Good reference. Bro, the road. They use a Dixie bolt. They use a Dixie paper plastic bolt to get, He puts it under and get the gas. I was on a, my dad's work friends were super Christian, and we went on a trip with their kids. And Road Warrior was on.

I was like, you guys have to watch this movie. Yeah. But you don't realize how weird it is. Like the bad guys in bondage. I don't know. See? Yeah. And he's working a Skype.

And he's wearing a Gimp mask. No, no. And they were like, this is weird. And I was like, it's cool as shit, man. There has been too much violence, too much pain. Just walk away and I spare your lives. That's what it says. I like the guy with the, what is the car?

Is it a Monte Carlo pickup? It's like a car transitioning into a pickup. But they have a machine gun. But the guy has a silver helmet with a mask for him. And it's like, da, da, da, that. Yeah, Lord. What's his name? Humongus.

Yeah. Dude, good memory. He would be at the order you. Like, I don't have business there. So. Wait, but how did we? Oh, shrink flash. Yeah.

Stuff is getting smaller, dude. Yeah. Dude, that'd be funny in a side way. If you're ever about to bone and she looks a little disappointed in your dick. Oh, man. And that's it? Drink flage.

It's 2026. Sorry, babe. This from 19, this from 1985, you'd be looking at a hog. Yeah. You got to, there's a snick-a-ball. I can't afford to have a big cock right now. Sam's chopping at me. That's right, babe.

There's a snicket ball. It's gone down. So Yeah, we're curious So Brett Cream jeans in the chat He's been upset That you're only wearing one shoe

Oh Well, earlier earlier I out of respect to Jake I didn't want to I wanted to be I didn't know if people Like talking

Yeah right there Oh wow okay Okay I haven't bought readers yet Because I don't look like a serial killer But like the BT gay guy But I can't see What's going on

but I just do I'm I can I can put it on like do you want to put the shoe back on or whatever you want to do okay what would you prefer I mean I like to just air out I've got a wound on my left toe so I'm gonna let it air out but it's no disrespect just so do you want to go I'll put it no no no I'd rather keep it off if you have a wound on your left toe okay no no yeah but what about your other foot no no no I'm good i'm good i'm just i'm uh i'm a leg tapper so i'm just doing morris code right are you are you i can't stop this are you idea of high anxiety right now uh no i'm feeling i'm feeling pretty relaxed yeah yeah i mean i just this this is um yeah this it's a

i don't want to say i don't want to say no you've explained it earlier um you explained it what is it? It's a vestige from your mom's turbulent household where you never knew it was coming around the corner so you learned how to be on edge. Yeah, and I'm just washing that door. Yeah. If I see a truck and there's no logo on it,

I'm like, could be Al-Qaeda. I don't know, but I'm on edge for sure. Yeah, your nervous system is used to having to be prepared. No, no, no, yeah. But we love you. No, no, no, no, yeah. It's more of a, it's more of a, I'm dying to take a piss.

You just have to pee. But I want to keep it. I don't want to mess it up. But that's why I'm, you can go pee. Are you okay? I would also like to say that. I shake my leg too,

but it means that I'm in flow state. I'm like just, I'm thinking so good and clean that my knee is just moving and moving. So maybe that's what it is, Brett. Maybe you're just, you know, you're firing and all.

Totally. It is, dude. I'm good. I'm born in the 70s. I got this. We're good. As long as I'm bummed you guys out, I'm good. No, no.

You're not bumming me out. But, yeah, the, I don't mean disrespect with a shoe. I just, no, you're not disrespect. I was just saying cream jeans is talking about it. Okay, okay. But it's not in a negative way. We're good. Thank you, we're good.

We're good. Thank you, sir. I don't think is. I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see Chath's, slip-ons, that is the best shoe ever made. It's the best, right? Black and white. When my mom passed out, we had to...

The other thing is when your mom passed out, you got to clean out her apartment. Yeah. And like, she had a pair under her bed. She had a pair? She always wore that. And, um... I think when I, when I die, I want to be buried in, uh, slip-ons. That's amazing. That's sick. Yeah. It's... Dude, what if you're coughing is just a big ass slip-on? It's a big slip-on. Yeah. I want, I want checkered vans. You guys...

You guys are so... creative that's amazing like i would love to do because you can only ever since my mom passed away we threw out like all the towels a hand towel she told us to not touch we ended up throwing them away and she had to accumulate the stuff it's like you can't take it with you you can't take it i have a pocket knife collection i'm not buying pocket knives anymore because how many do i really need what do you really want whatever the next plane is you can't carry physical objects from this one through exactly and it's like i'm a negative thinker so I want to be cremated so my pocket knives and vans shoes they burn up so no one can

have you can survive you can survive for like 10 seconds in space really oh that's sick yeah but then you explode right I do think you like fall apart yeah I don't wonder what happens I mean that is a gnarly dude it's a gnarly like seeing your mom's last breath is a gnarly is that that that's it Because you're just like, there's like a rhythmic thing and like, there's like a nurse. Like, oh, it's good. She probably has this amount of time left. And then. Because they can tell because of the, like, the rate, the death rattle.

Exactly. How do you know that? I learn what that is. I just, and you focus. It's so nary to see, uh, your, your mom who's beautiful. Like it's weird over, you know, 10 hours or whatever. Just it's crazy. Like the breathing slows?

No, no, it gets, just her, her color goes out and her face. And she has like a, this tooth overlapped. And all I did is watch out because I couldn't handle anything else. I just looked at her teeth. And then my brother like, you know, did her hair and we played her music. But it was a, it was a, it's interesting watching that happen and like wondering what happened. You know, like what do you guys are talking about? Like, what is the next?

Like where she went. Where she go? Yeah. And like also like all the stuff that I sometimes as an addict, I'll be like, oh, like I want I want to get two skate. I want two Tony Hawk decks. I want one. I'm going to grip and skate. I want the other one for the wall, whatever it is.

But it's like when our mom passed away and we threw all of her stuff out and donated it. It was like I tried to chill on. I don't need, you know, this many whatever. Like it kind of made you realize that. I want to be a minimalist. I'm like a poser, minimal. are minimalist. I'd really like some of my friends are true minimalist

and I'll have like one painting and but it really did make me be more aware. Made you less materialistic. Yeah, like I don't need this many. I mean, I kind of covet my little pocket knife things. And I think that's probably because I don't have enough testosterone in my household.

You know, I'm the only person that can no one will throw a football with me. So I'd flick the pocket knives and all that. Dude, I'd like, seriously, I'm not joking. I will show up to throw it like to and I like that's what I like subbing PE because people don't throw it. No, I can throw a spiral and it's anyway. But I think I went off the thing. So that you guys contact Costco.

You guys can crush it doing a vans slip on fast times at funeral high. I mean, I'd probably sell. But you're such a fucker though. What do you mean? said, because you said we're creative. You're creative as fuck. Yeah. When we did our second Paul Walker's speech,

I hit you on the email. I'm like, dog, we need posters. Next thing I know, you send back the most beautiful drawings and posters of Paul Walker as a statue. Are you sure? Yes. I don't know if that was me. Banta, I'll find the messages. Maybe.

I don't remember. We turned him into poster board. were dog do you remember so uh j t and i like 10 years ago we would do um locals only at the hollywood improv which decade was this no yeah and uh that was that was amazing locals only local and yeah i remember this bit we did this bit where you were walking through the crowd in a wetsuit with a buggy board oh my god and we kicked you out dude that was so good dude dude dude you got to get out of here oh my god God, those shows were so good.

I remember, oh, man, you know, J.C. had like, oh, dude, I remember going to the improv and then JT's like this. Hi, I'm, Jaycee, my parents pay for me. Like, it was so good. It was like his opener. People were laughing. They were like, dude, it was so good. Yeah.

I know. Because I just think there was so many comedians who were rich kids. Exactly. And they're not going to say. And they weren't going to say. Exactly. I was like, you know, there's a big chance here to just be the guy. who uh yeah you're who owns it it was so good you got a huge laugh so yeah it was always shocking to

people yeah especially in los angeles um exactly i'm going through old convos here you know i got to say i love um like making skateboard graphics that that's the most where you because i used to like work at mocha and like old ladies you'd like make the point size no here no here and it was this i couldn't handle like doing type and they were just so extreme down with that and then if you like to help a pro skateboarder with graphics you all just do like a couple versions like i'm like what do you think sick they're that's it you're done yeah yeah you're done that's it skaters are just pumped yeah they're like they're cool they're like you know um anyway yeah one dude was from south america and and um i did a scarface you know board series so or series and

And they're nice, but, yeah, being creative is a good thing. So when I, Chad, when I sub, I always get a white, blank piece of paper. I put up my pocket. And then if any kid asks me anything, I'll look at it now. She said, no, she said no. It's so good. One white piece of paper. But it's awesome when kids like, yo, Mr. B, it's blank.

It's blank. But we're talking subject teaching, so. which is kind of like you're in training to be a stepdad. All right, that was a callback. Sorry, I'll stop. No, you're good. All right, we got four left. This region, though, I think, is where you guys are going to be best.

This is West Coast here. So? California gets an easy first round by. Second matchup is Washington versus Oregon. Oh, I'm in two beautiful states, heavily wooded. Yeah. I mean, great cities reping both. Voodoo donuts.

For me, I think I got to go overall industry, culture, and aesthetics. I'm going Washington. Yeah, I think you got Seattle. You got, is it Mount Olympus? Yep. you got Starbucks you got Amazon bingo bongo

Sydney Sweenies from Spokane Fuck Yeah Dude she's hot Yeah She's so hot I saw her in that white bathing suit in the water

Oh mama Do you like boobs Yeah they're okay Yeah they're good Yeah they're good What's up dude Now I was just thinking about I was thinking about

Tits? Yeah, just The reset city swing Yeah Didn't she do that ad? It was like a jeans ad or? Oh yeah It was like kind of playing on eugenics

Okay, okay People got sensitive Yeah, okay No, yeah, I didn't know that They thought it was Nazi propaganda Is she is the thing? She is hot She does have good genes

No, no, no, no, for sure But I think, yeah Let's assume incompetence competence rather than malice. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if. Would you let, would you let Sweeney?

Don't go demented, bro. I know. That's where I was going. Play it large, dude. Would you let Sweeney dump on your chest? Oh. Check please. Fuck, dude.

Check please. Yeah, I mean, if you already got a 10. table, I'll take the next reservation. Yeah. I for sure, squat down, honey. Let me see that behole before it explodes. Jesus. You know what I mean, though, to see it?

Yeah, no, no. You're saying before the breach, brother. I'm just thinking P.G. Doesn't think right? Right before it does it, before it does its thing. Yes. That'd be pretty interesting to see. So pretty.

Yeah. Do you think if you watch that up close, it affect the way you watch your movies? No, not at all, dude. Separate the art from the artist. The art is her shitting on my chest. Oh, Jesus. The artist is that fucking bullshit movie she makes, dude. Fucking chicks acting.

So we're going Washington here? Yeah. We're going dark. Yeah. Oregon's. It took a turn. Oregon's sick, Portland's sick Bend is sick

All this chocolate Oh man Just oh man Where is it's with Seattle Oh Yeah Nevada and New Mexico next Oh

Oh I do you The floor is yours Danny Bonaducci Dang The Bonaduch Oh well I mean Santa Faye is incredible

it's got good skiing New Mexico Taos it's got Breaking Bad Lots of film production Okay And then Nevada

Nevada has Tahoe Nevada has Vegas Reno Nevada has got desert It's got nuclear testing And it's got mountains

Oh wow Okay Yeah It's got Hoover Dam Hoover Dam Hoover Dam Bro, and some... Nickel slots.

I haven't done New Mexico as often as I've done Nevada, but the rock formations in Nevada when you're driving through are gorgeous. Yeah, you know, I've got to go Nevada on this one. I'm going to follow suit. What's the other choice?

New Mexico. Okay. Nevada. I'm going to go New Mexico just because I like the way it sounds phonetically over Las of it. Vegas. Oh, sorry, Nevada.

Nice. For sure. Do you say Nevada or Nevada? I say Nevada. I say Nevada. I said it different earlier. It's Vietnam or Vietnam. I say Nevada.

I'm not trying to. I'm just looking at you. I'm not mean mugging you, dude. I didn't mean to bug you. I can't do the. What's that, bro? I'm just trying to practice. He crushed an English accent.

I'm not trying to bug you. Oh, that's the first. I'm not trying to bug you. I'm not trying to bug you. I'm not trying to bug you. I just, I'll need a moment of your time. Is that brave heart? It's brave heart.

I mean, that's so good. I'm not trying to bug you. How it's so good. I'm trying to love you. All right, what's next, Jake? The next is Idaho versus Wyoming. Oh, dude, skeers. I mean, Idaho is six.

Sun Valley, Boise. They're bringing it. But, But for me, if you're a quintessential cowboy, you got to go Wyoming. You have to go Wyoming. Yeah. And I like Cheyenne, the word Cheyenne. And if I wish I was from there because I'm like, where are you from?

Like, Cheyenne. It's amazing. It's like Rancho Cucamanga feel. Yeah. Oh, bro. The Cucamonga. Cheyenne, yeah. The musicality.

Yeah. I mean, I've been going to Jackson Hole since I was a kid since before it got totally abandoned by billionaires. Yeah. When it was just chill for millionaires. And it was, it's a beautiful place. But I will say this, spooky spirits in Jackson Hole. I like that. What is what is that?

I think it's on the vortex of some like negative energy fields. If you're up in the, on Teton, you're good. Travis Rice, what up. Teton Gravity Co. What up? But if you're just down on the flatlands of it, like near the Ward Hotel and stuff, the energy's off. It flummoxes me big time. This is Jackson Hole? Yeah, because it's a hole. It's a hole in the middle of mountains. And it's only accessible through the mountains. Like the drive through the pass is gnarly. Yeah. And when you get in there, something spooky happens to my brain. Really? Oh, yeah. So broke up with two. girlfriends there in a row never wanted to bring my current fiance there ended up proposing to her there to stick a stake in it but i did get in a funky mood afterwards interesting and Travis rise he's a thumbboard right mm-hmm all right last one jake last one oh we we want Wyoming there yeah Wyoming over Idaho there uh last one Alaska versus North Dakota uh I mean I I think Alaska.

North Dakota, North Dakota has Fargo, lots of cattle, but Alaska, I think, is a, overall just a butute. And I'm a huge fan. I'd probably be a greenhorn,

but I love the crab fishing shows. Yeah. I forgot what it's called. Deadliest catch. Yes, deadliest catch. What ship would you be on? I don't remember the ship's names. Okay.

The check. The Chad. What would you be on? I'd probably be on the Northwestern. The Brett. So. I didn't know they're different. I'd be on the banter.

Yeah. Sorry, go on. I mean, I like that they got a sovereign fund in Alaska that's spitting out a couple G to all the citizens every year. That's nice. Get everybody a little piece of that oil pipeline.

Might as well, dude. Didn't we like purchase Alaska from somebody, like Russia or something? or Canada I think so Russian needed money after costly wars and they were afraid to lose it

to England who already had Canada so they and they thought it was just frozen and useless land and then they realized later there was gold air,

oil and it was huge strategic military value we got an 1867 and one of the best land deals in history I mean I guess in terms of imperial

That's the smoothest version where both sides agree and just shake on it. Do you, can I run through some mistakes I made on this pod? I just said Teton Gravity Co. It's Teton Gravity Research. I said Danny Bonaduccia. I meant Tony Manero.

I said Frank Wright coached a Nebraska. He coached the Colts. I kind of messed up the Revolution of Rising Expectations. Definition. I think I corrected all the other ones. Oh, and finally, I meant Honolay Bay in Kauai, not Poipu. Brett, did you have any mistakes?

Yeah, a couple, but just, he had a couple. But I clear your heart. What's that? Clear your heart. If you got something. No, no, no. I let it go, brother. Oh, yeah.

Hey man. You know, I'm trying to pee. Oh, yeah. You used to have to pee really bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to hold on just to. Yeah, it's good. We're good.

Should we get to here? Probably. Let's let Brett piss. Yeah. I feel. Thanks for joining us, Brett. No, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Dude, you're always the funny. You're always the best. It's always great seeing you. You guys are too, man. I hope you guys do the coffin, the design. the, uh, well, when I die, I remember that. Dude, what if you have checkerboard, checkerboard coffin would be amazing. It'd be sick. And you wouldn't need pallbearers. You just roll it out. Yeah, dude, put it on skate wheels.