Going West: True Crime - Cleashindra Hall // 194

Episode Date: April 23, 2022

In May of 1994, an intelligent and bright 18-year-old and soon-to-be pre-med student vanished after work in Arkansas. Her boss (who was a local doctor) showed some incredibly suspicious behavior after... she went missing. But was he really involved in her disappearance? And if not, then what happened to her? This is the story of Cleashindra Hall. BONUS EPISODES patreon.com/goingwestpodcast CASE SOURCES https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news/nation-world/2012/04/04/police-search-home-ark-teen-missing-94/15614815007/ https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012/apr/03/tips-led-police-search-pb-teen-missing-94/ https://katv.com/archive/update-police-search-home-after-receiving-tip-about-1994-cold-case https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2012/jul/20/crime-scene-technician-suspended-in-hall-case/ https://interactive.thv11.com/storied/unsolved-clea-hall/index.html#!/ https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012/mar/29/pb-doctor-served-search-warrant-1994-cold-case/ https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012/mar/30/search-revives-18-year-mystery-20120330/ https://findcleashindra.blogspot.com/2012/08/officer-denies-wrong-doing-in-handling.html https://katv.com/archive/pine-bluff-teen-still-missing-20-years-later https://medium.com/@jennbaxter_69070/the-missing-valedictorian-what-happened-to-cleashindra-hall-13226b6fe7f5 https://charleyproject.org/case/cleashindra-denise-hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is going on True Crime fans, I'm your host Teeve and I'm your host Daphne. And you're listening to Going West. Today's case, I actually found on Reddit where someone had talked about it after listening to her story on Black Girl Gone, which is an amazing podcast that specifically covers Missing In Murdered Black Women, so big shout out to Amara and everything she's doing with Black Girl Gone and of course we did our own full research on this and we don't refer to her show but I just wanted to give a shout out because I guess if it wasn't for her episode we wouldn't know about this case.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah, absolutely. And this case is so tragic and it's also so baffling. You guys are just going to be dumbfounded if you have not heard this story yet. So thank you so much for tuning in. Heath and I appreciate you all so much and hope you're having a good rest of your week. And we've got nothing else to say. All right, guys. All right, guys, this is episode 194 of Going West, so let's get into it. In May of 1994, an intelligent and bright 18-year-old and soon-to-be-pre-med student vanished after work in Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:01:51 She had an exciting summer internship in Boston and her first semester of college coming up that fall, so it was clear that she didn't run away. Especially considering her boss, who was a local doctor, showed some very suspicious behavior after she went missing. But was he really involved in her disappearance? And if not, then what happened to her? This is the story of Klesindra Hall. of Clashindra Hall. Clashindra Denise Hall, who went by Clia, was born on March 30, 1976 in Arkansas, to
Starting point is 00:02:35 LaRelle and Willie Hall, alongside her brothers. Clia and her siblings grew up in Pinebluff, Arkansas, which is a small city almost smack dab in the middle of the state, just around a 45-minute drive from the capital of Arkansas, Little Rock. Clia was very musically talented as she played the drums and the saxophone and was even in her school's marching band.
Starting point is 00:03:01 She was also a big reader, the type that seemed to always have a book in her hand, and she was incredibly intelligent. She was an honor student at Watson Chapel High School, and was getting ready to graduate as valedictorian in the spring of 1994, and she had prepared a commencement speech that she would be giving at graduation, which she and I'm sure her family was really looking forward to. And here are some things that her classmates and friends had to say about her. Quote, she was a real good girl.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You couldn't ask for a sweeter person than her. One of her friends said with a smile, she was so much smarter than me. She was always smiling. A real happy go lucky person. And then a family friend from Church stated, quote, the whole family are very good people. They do whatever they can for others. Oh, that's really sweet to hear that. I know. This family seems amazing. Yeah, they seem like great people, which we'll get into a little bit later. So in May of 1994, Clea was just two weeks away from graduating high school, and was excited
Starting point is 00:04:06 to attend Tennessee State University in Nashville in the fall for her pre-med program where she would study to become a pediatrician. Clia was very good with kids, and she absolutely loved them, and her caring nature really pushed her to want to help kids. This would be the first time she'd live outside of Arkansas and away from family, but it was just a state-of-way in less than six hours by car,
Starting point is 00:04:31 so she wouldn't be going all that far. At this time, Clea worked in after school job at a local doctor's office right there in Pinebluff, and in the summer, she was prepared to begin a summer internship at a pediatrician's office, all the way over in Boston, Massachusetts. So basically, Clea was going to fly over to Boston and spend most of the summer there, and then finally head down to Tennessee in the fall for college, so she had lots of plans
Starting point is 00:04:57 and she was incredibly goal-oriented. She really was. So on Friday, May 6, 1994, just over one month after her 18th birthday, Kliya attended her senior prom. And we know she didn't have a boyfriend at this time, but by all accounts, she had a great time. And then two days later, nothing you need a boyfriend to have a great time, but yeah, that's true. You don't. I just mean like she had fun. She didn't, I don't know if she had a date, I couldn't find that specifically, but anyway, so she had her prom and then two days later on Sunday May 8th was Mother's Day, so her whole family got together and had a nice time, so it seemed
Starting point is 00:05:34 like an eventful and fun weekend for sure. Then the following day on Monday May 9th, 1994, 18-year-old Clish Indra Hall finished her day of classes and then her mom picked her up and took her to work. And like Heath mentioned, this was at a doctor's office in her town of Pinebluff, and the doctor she worked for was a 43-year-old man named Larry Amos, and the office was also his house located in a residential neighborhood in the 5300 block of Foset Road. She would do clerical work there, so just like general office tasks and admin stuff, but
Starting point is 00:06:12 it should be mentioned that Larry wasn't a practicing medical doctor, but instead more of a business man who ran like a charity organization out of his house that supported daycare centers. So although this wasn't exactly what Clea would be doing in her career as a future pediatrician, it couldn't hurt to kind of gain experience with daycare centers. But the company is called Arkansas Federal Child Care Nutritional Services Inc. So it seems to specialize in like child food for kids, kind of thing. That's a mouthful of an aim. Like ran out of breath.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah. But back to the story. So when she and her mom arrived to the office, Dr. Amos did not appear to be home, even though he knew she was coming. So Laurel took Clea back to their house, and Clea took a nap until Dr. Amos called about 30 minutes later at 4.30pm,
Starting point is 00:07:04 explaining that he was ready. So then, Laurel took Clea to work and then went back home herself. Every night, at the end of her shift, which was typically around 8pm, Clea would call her parents and ask for her usual ride home from work, and on this particular evening, she did make that call at 8pm. But she didn't ask her mom to pick her up just yet. She told her that she wasn't ready and she was still working, but said that she would
Starting point is 00:07:37 call back soon when she was done, which she thought would be around 8.30pm. While Aurel waited for this call, she fell asleep, kind of knowing that the phone ringing would wake her up anyway. But to her surprise, Larell woke up five hours later at 12.45 am when her husband and Clea's father Willie arrived home from work and noticed her asleep on the couch. So in this brief panic, Lerel checked to see if Clea was home, but she wasn't. So then Lerel started wondering why Clea was still out and why she hadn't made it home
Starting point is 00:08:14 and also why she hadn't called, like she said she would, because no call came into the house after that. Yeah, this is really alarming, because every single night, Clea's making this call to get a ride home, but on this particular night, no calls made, and Clea is still not home. Exactly. Very sketchy stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yes, totally agree. So the next thing Clea's parents did was call Dr. Amos, and even though it was almost 1am, he answered on the first ring. When they asked him if Cleo was still there and explained the situation, Larry Amos told L'Areal and Willie that someone had picked Cleo up at 8.30pm, and that he had just assumed that it was L'Areal. Here's a direct quote from her mom in an article on missingkids.org. Quote, I'm thinking she's never done this before, but she is a teenager and she's 18 about to graduate, so maybe she's decided that she's going to flex her independent muscles. But I stayed up all night because I'm looking out the window thinking you're going to be in big trouble young lady when you come home. But daylight came and she wasn't home.
Starting point is 00:09:28 L'Areal and Willie thought that maybe a friend had picked Clea up and she had been with them that night, even though this wasn't at all usual for Clea, but when the morning came, Clea's family wondered if she had gone somewhere and then was planning to just go straight to school. Her younger brother checked to see if she was at their high school that morning since he went there too, but Clea was not there. At this point, her family was beyond worried because Clea never missed school. And like we said, she was the valedictorian. Yeah, she was so smart, she actually cared about her academics and her school like
Starting point is 00:10:05 she wasn't the kind of person to just blow this off and she also wasn't the kind of person to stay all night and not tell her family. Exactly. So her mother reported her missing to the local police, but unfortunately with Clea being 18 and it being 1994, they told her that she had to wait 24 hours after Clea disappeared to report her missing, which would be later that same evening. Meanwhile, the hulls were not going to remain idle until the 24-hour mark came, so they put together their own group to search the area near Dr. Amos' house, and also in a wooded area directly across the street from his house, and they checked
Starting point is 00:10:46 just generally around Pine Bluff. But when they didn't find anything, they started making missing person flyers and posting them all around town. The day after this on Wednesday, May 11, 1994, when Clea still hadn't been found. Police finally got involved. Of course, they exercised the thought that she had run away, but knowing how smart she was and how she was preparing for all these exciting ventures, and she was speaking at her graduation, they figured this was not the case.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Also none of her belongings had been taken, and she didn't have a car, so where would she have gone? The next day, Laurel received a call from Larry Amos asking if Clea had returned home yet, to which she stated no she had in and they were incredibly worried. Well get this, after this phone call, Larry headed out for a supposed business trip in Dallas, Texas and he was gone for three days. Since Arkansas and Texas share a very small state border, Dallas wasn't too far away and
Starting point is 00:11:54 was just a five hour drive, so he actually did drive this, which kind of sets off some red flags for us. Well, I just, yeah, I mean, the last place that she was known to be seen was at Larry Amos's house, aka his, you know, business practice. Right. Which is just so weird. And the fact that he told Clea's parents that he said that she was picked up by somebody.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Who would she have been picked up by? I mean, yeah. It's just, yeah, I can see where the red flags are. And then going out of town directly after this, instead of like, hey, I'm gonna help in the search. Right. And we'll get into it as well. Why he was out of town and some things
Starting point is 00:12:35 that follow this as well. It just gets more suspicious, at least in my opinion. Oh, I'm definitely with you on that. So when Larry returned home to Pine Bluff, Arkansas, the police were waiting to question him. And when they did, Larry stated that he had gone to Dallas to buy tanning salon equipment for a future business that he was planning to open.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I don't know why I find that so weird, but I don't know, I guess people gotta do that if they're gonna open a business, but I don't know, that just strikes me as odd. Yeah, it does for me as well. So Larry also showed police around his house and answered all their questions, telling them that he had no idea where Clea went that evening. But after this, Larry loyered up and refused to speak to police anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Which we definitely understand in a sense if you had nothing to do with her case, since he had already stated that he didn't know anything and even showed police around his house. But we can't help but be suspicious that he was the last person to see her. I agree and I, you know, maybe I'm worse suspicious because we know this whole case already and a lot of you probably don't, but I understand that he, I think it's great that he was talking to police that he was cooperating, that he showed them around his house. That was great because that's way better than the opposite.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Like a lot of people do and they're like, I'm just not gonna talk to you at all. Just completely shut them out. Yeah. So at least he didn't do that, but. Yeah. So the next day on Friday, May 14th, 1994, Larry Amos headed over to the hall's Pine Bluff home to check in, but also to hand Lorella a piece of paper with a phone number on it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 He said he didn't recognize the number and that it was the last number dialed on his office phone before Clea disappeared, so obviously sounds kind of suspicious. When police called this number back, the person on the other line called themselves Smith. But this didn't go anywhere or prove to be useful. When Lerell called the number herself and discovered that it belonged to the babysitter of Larry Amos' kids, she was kind of confused. And again, this lead did not go anywhere. One important detail of this story is that Clia wasn't the only person that worked for Larry Amos, someone else did. And they told police that they saw Clia leave the house slash office at 8.30pm on foot.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And to them, it appeared that she was walking home, but they don't know what direction she was going in, which is weird like you saw her walking, but you don't know what direction she was headed. Now, as we remember, Larry Emo said that he saw Clea leave at that same time, but that she got into a car that he assumed was her mom's. So, this doesn't exactly match up.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, we have one person saying that she walked away from the house, headed down the street, and then we have another account from Larry saying that she got into a car. Right. And so it's at the same time. So maybe it's an easy mix up, but it's also kind of like, oh, so two weeks after Clea's disappearance,
Starting point is 00:15:44 the same week that she should have graduated Watson Chapel High School as valedictorian, police finally were able to get a warrant to search Larry's house in office properly. But crazy as it is, nothing was found. Though we have to remember if Larry is involved, this would have given him two whole weeks to hide any and all evidence, which is something L'Areal highlighted when she expressed her frustrations with police on this matter. Since they didn't find anything and since they had information from Clea's coworker about her supposedly walking home, police began to wonder if she had been kidnapped by someone on her walk home. The problem here is that other than the coworker and Larry, I guess, there were no other
Starting point is 00:16:32 witnesses who saw this and no one who came forward saying that they had seen Clea or a woman matching her description walking in Pinebluff. And if she had walked home, she would have been doing so in the dark because the sun set at 7.58 pm that evening in Pinebluff so 30 minutes before she would have been walking home and why would she even walk when she told her mom that she would call for a ride like why give your mom that warning call of hey by the way I'm not ready yet but I will call you soon. Yeah, and also, you know, the first call that was made, it was essentially saying like, hey, yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:14 I do want you to pick me up. Right, exactly. So if she had other plans like, I'm gonna walk home, why wouldn't she just tell her mother that and say, hey, you don't need to pick me up? Yeah, exactly. I'm gonna walk home, why wouldn't she just tell her mother that and say, hey, you don't need to pick me up. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I'm gonna walk home. Why would she make her mom wait for that call? Like, sit at home and specifically wait for the call if you weren't going to call. It just doesn't make any sense. And also, I read that the halls lived a little over a half mile away, which would have taken her maybe 10 to 15 minutes or so to walk. So really not far. But Clea didn't have a cell phone, though this was before cell phone tracking anyway, but
Starting point is 00:17:52 she also didn't have a purse or ID on her. So if she did walk, she would have nothing on her. Also Larry was allegedly not really a great dude in the sense that he would hire people to do work for him, and then he would just not pay them and claim that they didn't do what he asked them to do work wise. And he was paying Clea under minimum wage, but as the kindhearted person that she was, she didn't really make an issue out of this. It goes without saying that L'Areal and Willie, Clea's parents, became very suspicious
Starting point is 00:18:26 of Larry Amos, and they did their own investigative work and found the name of his ex-wife. Knowing they weren't together anymore and possibly for good reason, they figured that she may have some interesting and even pertinent information. When they reached out to her, she agreed to meet with them, and what she told them would make them even more fearful that Larry had something to do with the disappearance of their daughter, Clea. When the Rellen Willie Hall met up with Larry's newly ex-wife to ask her questions about their marriage, she freely answered their questions in a local restaurant. But it was an eerie setting because Larell felt like a man standing across the street from the restaurant was watching them. But it turns out, this man was watching them, and he was actually hired by the ex-wife to make sure she was safe and
Starting point is 00:19:45 that this wasn't some kind of setup. That's apparently how afraid she was of her ex-husband, Dr. Larry Amos. She told the Holes that Larry had been physically abusive towards her during their relationship, and that eventually she had mustered up the courage to leave him. But she remained extremely afraid of him. He didn't pay her any money for child support, and soon before her conversation with the halls, she had filed again for child support, but she was scared that he was going to come
Starting point is 00:20:17 after her for even requesting this. So it sounds like this guy is a very sketchy dude. I mean, when we first started talking about Larry, it was like, okay, maybe there are some things that seem sketchy here, but now the fact that we have this information coming from the ex-wife that he was abusive, overbearing, controlling, that's scary. I agree, and you guys just wait.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Now, this seems like pretty important information that could really show what Larry is capable of. But sadly, police didn't interview his ex-wife themselves, but when they heard the information given to the halls, they just shrugged it off and didn't think that she was a credible source since it was his very recent ex, which in a sense could be true, but if she is being truthful, it's definitely worth looking into. And this is really upsetting anyway, because at this point, please didn't even think that Larry was involved, and really felt like she had been abducted by some unknown person that had simply seen her walking home that night.
Starting point is 00:21:20 The only other person that really came up in this case as a potential person of interest was a young man that Clea was friends with and had possibly been dating. A guy named Scott Walker. And since they had apparently been seeing each other, they wondered if he had picked her up that evening, so they brought him down to the Pine Bluff Police Department for questioning. So Scott even agreed to take a polygraph test, though the results came back as inconclusive, so technically a fail. Police searched his car as well, but they didn't find any evidence that could link him to
Starting point is 00:21:52 any wrongdoing. But that's all the information that's really known about Scott Walker. So it's hard for any of us to kind of speculate if he really was involved. Right, I agree, because there's absolutely nothing to go off of and and yeah. So it does seem as though police didn't find him to be very suspicious after questioning him despite the inconclusive polygraph but as we've stated so many times on the show, you know, we can't really rely on a polygraph very much. Yeah. And they stated that there was no actual evidence to prove that he could
Starting point is 00:22:25 have been involved. So years and years passed and police stated that they had put countless hours into our case and just didn't have enough evidence to conclude what had happened to her. But in 2012, some very suspicious information came out. I know we keep saying the word suspicious. I was just going to say that I was going to say. I know we keep saying the word suspicious I was just gonna say that I was gonna say I know fuck us, but really honestly There's there's not no other word. There's really no other word. So folks. We are not done with Larry Amos So at some point after police could no longer interview him and really didn't have any evidence connecting him to Clea's disappearance, hence why their theory changed to a kidnapping while walking home.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Larry began doing renovations on his home slash office. And remember this is just after Clea disappeared. This is at the time. So not only did these renovations take place inside his house but also outside. And of course this is a major red flag for any person who is suspected in potentially having involvement in a disappearance or murder case. But since Larry loyered up and even refused to take a polygraph, they didn't look into this. I don't even know if police knew this was happening because they were kind of just done with him. Yeah. It wasn't until March of 2012, nearly 18 years after Clea went missing, that two contractors
Starting point is 00:23:53 came forward about the work they had done on Larry's home. Well, one of them said he had noticed what he believed was blood on the insulation in the house. While the other one said that when he was pouring cement in the backyard, he noticed a foul odor coming from the ground. And this is so frustrating because we can assume these guys maybe didn't know that Larry had been questioned in connection to a disappearance back in 1994 during the run of renovations. So maybe they didn't think much about these things at the time, but oh my god. Yeah, that's kind of kind of big, big news here. Yeah, so I really wonder too if they had been sitting on this all these years,
Starting point is 00:24:41 or if they had recently heard about her case, like I wish we knew more about how that kind of unraveled. Yeah. Or so much time passed. Or if police were just looking into potential connections, and they found these contractors. No, they were the ones to call. So they actually called police with this tip,
Starting point is 00:25:00 and so they came forward all in their own. Oh, I see. Okay, so yeah, then they probably did somehow hear about Clea's case. Right. So on March 29th, 2012, police took action thinking this could be a big break in her case. And they headed to Larry's home, which he still lived in, along with cadaver dogs and radar equipment to search the concrete area for possible human remains.
Starting point is 00:25:25 to search the concrete area for possible human remains. Now, later, police removed numerous paper bags from the home with possible evidence inside, though they wouldn't say what those paper bags contained. Clea's parents were at the scene all day just hoping for some answers, and her mother, Larell, said this to the media. Quote, Although I don't know all the details, this has been such a long journey and a long time coming.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Something as simple as a resident's search 18 years ago might have brought us some evidence that could have ended this nightmare for us. It's like we're stuck in time. She was 18 when she disappeared. Tomorrow, she'll be 36, and all I have is the 18 year old reference. Even if she wasn't alive, I would just like to know that that's the case. Yeah, I mean, if she was supposed to be 36 and 18 years past, like she was 18 when she went missing, that's her whole lifespan that she had lived at least as far as we know,
Starting point is 00:26:24 that's just, they've just been waiting. Yeah, they've just been waiting for answers. So get this, the evidence found at the scene was allegedly not entered into evidence or tested that day. Now, the police say that it was entered the following day while some others say that it took about a week. We don't know what was in those bags, but it seemed like police just searched Larry's
Starting point is 00:26:47 house because of this tip, but really didn't care to take the proper steps to see if her remains were there, or if there was any evidence that she had been hurt in the home. Which only makes you wonder if they even did a thorough search this time around since their original search two weeks after her disappearance kind of seemed to fall short too. And obviously, you know, we can't be sure that Larry was involved. So just because they didn't find anything doesn't mean they're not working because maybe there's nothing to find. I do think it's I do think it's really good of them to go back to this this spot years and years later and you know know look for potential evidence.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I am really glad they did but once the testing was submitted and the results finally came back, they allegedly did not show any DNA evidence or anything pointing to Clea. Now of course the halls were very frustrated by this because they just wanted this all to be over but they were also incredibly upset and rightfully so, that police didn't seem to be doing everything they could to get them those answers. And you know, everything they're feeling was absolutely correct because it came out that the evidence in which police collected from Larry's home had been sitting for 40 days before it was submitted to the Arkansas Crime Lab. According to Lieutenant Bob Rollinson, who had prepared the inventory list, the evidence
Starting point is 00:28:10 taken consisted of four items from the West Wall of Larry's living room. And although he couldn't get more specific, it really makes no sense why this evidence allegedly sat in the detective's car for over a month. However, the evidence bags weren't even big enough to hold these pieces of wall because they were sticking out of the bags, which obviously isn't secure at all, and basically means that the evidence was essentially tampered with. But Lieutenant Rollinson doesn't think he messed up here, but apparently the department did because he had a very short suspension of two days for not making sure the evidence was
Starting point is 00:28:49 submitted in a timely manner, which is against the department's policy. Now he appealed this right away stating quote, it's not illegal in the policy to transport or hold evidence in your car. The first opportunity I had, I turned it in. Yeah, okay, a month later. I know, but his suspension was overturned, meaning he would not be suspended for this action, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:29:18 We also read that Rollinson didn't believe that Larry was behind her disappearance. So I wonder if his bias kind of like impeded him from submitting the evidence? Yeah, it kind of seems that way. Right. Now he did state this quote, Klishindra wasn't the type of person just to run off. She had a future ahead of her.
Starting point is 00:29:39 So it's clear he does believe that someone kidnapped her, but when they were searching Larry's property, he also stated, quote, We have no viable suspect, and what we're trying to do is narrow down the scope of investigations. And he had appealed his suspension because apparently he really wanted to stay on the case. He publicly stated, quote, I wanted to stay on the case. It is a highly interesting case, and I believe nobody knows more about this case than me.
Starting point is 00:30:10 The police chief who ordered for his suspension replied with, quote, if he is so passionate about this case, he would have made sure the evidence got to the crime lab the next day. He could have carried it there himself. So fucking true. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:30:26 There was also a woman in the department who was looked at as responsible, and it turns out that she was also a big part and why the evidence did not get submitted quickly. Cathy Rool was a crime scene technician, and she had reportedly gotten busy with other cases, and essentially forgot to submit the evidence from Clea's case. She didn't submit them until May 8th, just one day shy of exactly 18 years since Clea had disappeared, which is 43 days after the evidence was initially collected. Insane. So, Kathy Role was suspended for five days by the same police chief, and Kathy admitted that she became involved in other cases and just forgot about the evidence in Clea's
Starting point is 00:31:13 case. Here's what L'Areal had to say about this. Quote, I had heard that this lady had been doing her job for 19 years, and it's amazing to me that she could not handle this evidence that was apparently important in my daughter's case. What was different in this situation from something that she should have been able to do in her sleep?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Also, how can she verify that the evidence wasn't tampered with when no one had seen it in 40 days? It's hard to believe that with her experience, she was that lax with this evidence. At the time that this was coming out, Larell also stated, quote, Some of the things the police have done may have crippled our case. Somebody out there knows something, and that one person for all these years has been able to hold that information. I don't know how they've been able to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I have a fear of leaving this earth and not knowing what happened to her. If I stop looking or we stop looking, who's gonna help me find out what happened to my child? And the halls have really done everything they can to fight for justice with the local law enforcement, and there's a slew of people within their community that support them, help them search, share this outrage in the lack of efforts from Clea's case with the media, and wear pink ribbons and remembrance of Clea. Since 2012, nothing new has come in Clish Indra Hall's case.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Even in 2014, on the 20-year anniversary of Clea's disappearance. Her mom stated, quote, in the 20 years we haven't gotten enough information to find out what happened or what direction she went, who may have picked her up, or if somebody picked her up. On this day, the Hall family, as well as various members of their community and some friends, held an awareness walk in Pinebluff to remember Clashindra. A Pinebluff police detective named Richard Wagner stated, quote, Sooner or later, somebody comes forward on 90% of the cases that we deal with.
Starting point is 00:33:16 In this particular case for whatever reason, that person has had that particular piece of information and has not come forward. Person or persons, it may be more than one we don't know. Just from watching interviews of L'Areal, she seems like such a calm and wonderful and fair person. Like she's not cynical, she's not pointing fingers, she's not reaching, she's just disappointed. And you know, she's disappointed for a reason. I agree. And she just wants the answers, but she doesn't seem to think that police are going out of their way to
Starting point is 00:33:50 botch this investigation. You know what I mean? She just doesn't think they're really capable of handling it, which that's kind of what it seems like. Yeah. Agreed. So at this point, Larry Amos is in his 70s and according to Google He still appears to be living in that very same house in Pinebluff, Arkansas He's been the only real person of interest in her case though there still has not been enough evidence to connect him or Anyone to her disappearance Now I wonder if he had potentially made this is a theory this is I wonder if he had potentially made, this is a theory, this is speculation. If he had made advancements towards her
Starting point is 00:34:28 and she denied it and then something went wrong, I also question her coworker who claims to have seen her walking on foot after leaving work. I wonder if this person is being truthful or if they saw something and can't say because they're being threatened. I had that thought that maybe potentially Larry was like, this is what you're going to say.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Right. I mean, I wonder. Or if Clea really did leave the house, either by foot or by car, and Larry and this coworker are telling the truth, and one of them are just misremembering the specific mode of transportation that she took that evening because it wasn't significant. You know, if they're not involved,
Starting point is 00:35:04 they didn't know she was going to go missing. Yeah, I do think it's interesting, though. An interesting point to make is that police, you know, felt strongly enough, you know, depending on these, these tips that they were getting, that they actually did go back to his house and search for evidence. So it's, so it is kind of like, it does make you wonder. It does make you question things regarding Larry Amos in this case. Well, of course, and I think with the, you know, police going to check out the tip, I'm
Starting point is 00:35:29 glad they did, but at that time they were not thinking that Larry was behind this. This whole time pretty much, they have thought that it's a random kidnapping. Yeah, and it very well could be. Right, to me, I mean, it's absolutely possible that someone could have abducted her on her walk home, but just like you and I were discussing earlier, Heath, why would she walk when she told her mom that she was going to call and ask her to pick her up? She didn't know her mom was going to take a nap, and she always asked for a ride home, so why would this night be any different?
Starting point is 00:36:00 That was my thought, too. If she's consistently asking for rides home and she had never actually walked home before, why would that day be just the exception? Yeah, and if there isn't any evidence of Clea calling Scott Walker to pick her up instead, how would he have known when and where to get her or how would anybody have known? And why wouldn't she call her mom to let her know that she was hanging out with a friend or a guy she liked that evening instead of just Not calling it all it seems to me that Clea was very responsible and she would definitely not be doing something out of the ordinary
Starting point is 00:36:34 I agree and because of these questions. I just have to believe That Larry had something to do with her disappearance whether it was on purpose or on accident Especially with what the contractors said about their findings. I mean, that is two different people working on the same house and they both came across something like that. Yeah, and they were both, you know, able to retell what they found and what they were thinking, and they thought it was suspicious. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:02 At the time of Klaishandra Hall's disappearance in 1994, she was 18 years old, meaning today she would be 46 years old. Klia had black hair, brown eyes, and a dark complexion. She stood at 5 feet 8 inches tall and weighed about 120 pounds. Her front tooth had a chippinet and she had a surgical scar on her left knee. When she went missing, she was wearing navy blue and white shorts with polka dots on the pockets, and a striped shirt with white socks and white sneakers. She had small stud earrings in both of her ears, press on nails, hair extensions, and she wore a white bow in her hair. If you have any information about the disappearance of Clashinder Hall, please call the Pine Bluff Police Department at 870-543-5111.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Thank you so much everybody for listening to this episode of Going West. Yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode, and on Tuesday we'll have an all-new case for you guys to dive into. I just can't believe this case. Cases like this are so insanely frustrating. Like, you have somebody and you just don't quite have enough to pin anything on them and then you don't find anything in their house. Like what are the chances?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Of course the chances could be he didn't do it, but I just, I think he did. Yeah, if we're, if we're just speaking solely on opinions, my opinion personally is that Larry had something to do with this. But you know, I would really like to know what you guys think, so please let us know. And think about her poor family who has had to live in the same community as him and wonder if he did it. Because they're like I said, her mom is super fair, her family's not out there like spreading, trying to spread any lies.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So when asked if they think Larry is behind it, they say that they're open to it, but they're not like, he did it, you know. So imagine them having that wonder and that question in their head and living the same community as him, knowing he's still in that house and they don't know what happened. Yeah, it's just devastating and heartbreaking. So please, please share this episode with everybody
Starting point is 00:39:20 that you know so we can get this information out there because there needs to be more pressure put on this case. Clea and her family deserve justice. I fully agree. Thank you guys so much for tuning in and thank you so much for dealing with Ethan eyes. Ethan eyes voices today. Yeah we're a little bit stuffy. I don't know if it's allergies or if it's a if it's a cold who knows. We just feel like garbage. But we're never gonna miss an episode. We can't do that. We're gonna be, we're gonna be right here recording for you guys.
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