Going West: True Crime - David Glenn Lewis // 480

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

In late January of 1993, over Super Bowl weekend, a 39-year-old Texas man vanished while his wife and daughter were on a girls weekend in Dallas. Just one day later, he was seen walking on a highway m...ultiple states away, looking disoriented, shortly before he would become the victim of a hit-and-run. But it took eleven years for him to be positively identified, bringing more questions than answers to his curious story. This is the story of David Glenn Lewis.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is going on true crime fans? I'm your host, Heath. And I'm your host, Daphne. And you're listening to Going West. Hello everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in today. Big shout out to Todd and Kate for recommending today's episode. This case, like it truly gives me the creeps. Cases like this are equally like my favorite and least favorite to cover. My favorite because there is so much to
Starting point is 00:00:38 discuss, so much information to help share. But my least favorite, of course, because it means loved ones are left without justice because especially with this one, what the hell? I mean, this will be one of the most confounding cases that we've covered thus far, and I cannot wait to hear what you guys think about this one. So head on over to our socials when this episode is over, share David's story and let us know your thoughts. We're on Instagram at going west podcast podcast and we're also on Facebook. Yes, please do.
Starting point is 00:01:07 And without further ado, let's dive into this one. All right guys, this is episode 480 of Going West. So let's get into it. In late January of 1993, over Super Bowl weekend, a 39-year-old Texas man vanished while his wife and daughter were on a girls weekend in Dallas. Just one day later, he was seen walking on a highway multiple states away, looking disoriented, shortly before he would become the victim of a hit-and-run. But it took 11 years for him to be positively identified, bringing far more questions than answers to his suspicious death. David Glenn Lewis was born on December 11th, 1953 in the small city of Borger, Texas, which
Starting point is 00:02:37 is about 50 miles or 80 kilometers northeast of the larger city of Amarillo, which is a city that we are very much going to be talking about today. David was welcomed by parents Esther and Herschel, such old fashioned names, and grew up alongside a brother named Larry. And David really embodied the standard definition of an all-American man,
Starting point is 00:02:59 and he did until the day he died. He was a quarterback for his high school football team and then went on to major in political science at Texas Tech University where he graduated magna cum laude with hopes of pursuing a law degree. It was there at university that he met his future wife Karen Garrett. Now he and Karen, who worked as a teacher, were married on July 25th, 1981, after David completed law school. So going back for a sec to talk about that,
Starting point is 00:03:30 after obtaining his bachelor's degree in 1975, so six years before he got married, he went on to attend the Texas Tech University School of Law, graduating in 1979 with a Doctor of Juris Prudence or a doctor of law. He was a member of the Honors Society throughout his entire tenure at Texas Tech, so clearly a very intelligent, hard-working guy. As a member of the American Bar Association as well as the State Bar of Texas, David then began practicing law in Amarillo and
Starting point is 00:04:02 worked as an attorney for multiple counties in the area. He was also actually quite passionate about the safety of women and children, so he was on the board for the Moore County Child Protective Services, as well as the Boy Scouts of America. And he volunteered with Safe Place Incorporated, which is a nonprofit domestic violence organization.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So he was a big community man and truly, I mean, just a man for the people. Now, more recreationally, since David's schedule obviously isn't packed enough, heavy sarcasm there, he taught Sunday school at his church and he even sang in the choir. In 1982, when David was 28 years old, he and his wife, Karen, In 1982, when David was 28 years old, he and his wife Karen welcomed a daughter that they named Julie Lauren, who went just by Lauren. And Karen recalled that David was a loving and devoted husband and father who loved kids dearly. He was described in the media as, quote, the ultimate nice guy and family man.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But onto his career again and what he spent much of his time doing from 1986 to 1990 while he was in his 30s. David served as the Moore County Court of Law judge in nearby Dumas, Texas. Then he lost his bid for re-election so he began working at the law firm of Buckner, Lara, and Swindell in the city of Amarillo, and that's what he was doing until the day he disappeared. Now, when it comes to David's incredibly strange and eerie disappearance, there's really only one source of reliable information from when it actually happened, and that is in the form of an article printed in multiple different publications across Texas on June 27, 1993. But after that, the information gets pretty scant.
Starting point is 00:05:54 In late January of 1993, 39-year-old David was preparing for a football-filled weekend. Meanwhile, Karen and their daughter Lauren, who was 10 years old at this time, were headed to Dallas for a long weekend to shop and just gonna have some girl time while David was looking forward to the Super Bowl coming up on Sunday, which featured his beloved Dallas Cowboys. On Thursday, January 28th, 1993, Karen and Lauren took the hour-long flight to Dallas to save them the nearly six hour long drive and David reported to work as usual But he wound up leaving work around noon telling co-workers that he wasn't really feeling well After leaving he stopped at a gas station and filled his tank on a credit card on his way home
Starting point is 00:06:40 Presumably David went home for the afternoon to rest But he did wind up teaching his weekly government class at Amarillo College, which concluded at 10pm that night, and as far as anybody knows, he was headed home after that. There were no reports from students or fellow teachers of any suspicious behaviors or movements on David's part. But the following day, Friday, January 29th, a friend of his from his church in Dumas spotted him rushing through the Southwest Airlines terminal at the Amarillo International Airport.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Now, he didn't appear to have any luggage or belongings with him, which was obviously a little bit odd. And it's unclear if David noticed the friend or not, but this seems kind of unlikely because he was apparently in what seemed like a big rush. Later that day, again, this is Friday, a police officer spotted what was believed to be David's car, which was a red Ford Explorer parked outside the Potter County Courts building in downtown Amarillo, just around the corner from City Hall, So very much not at the airport. And for reference, the airport is about 10 miles east and just about a 13 minute drive.
Starting point is 00:07:51 It's just outside of the city. The officer reported seeing the vehicle at 1030 PM. So hours after David was supposedly seen hurrying through the airport. Then the next day, Saturday, January 30th, the day before the Super Bowl, and while Karen and Lauren were still having a weekend away in Dallas, David, or someone with his bank card, deposited $5,000 into his and Karen's bank account. account. So somebody put money or David put money into his joint account. By Saturday the next day the red Ford Explorer parked near the Potter County Courts building the night before had vanished and David's red Explorer was then found parked at home per one of his neighbors. And just by the way
Starting point is 00:08:41 at the time that these sightings are being made no one knew to like keep track of David's whereabouts yet. So these reports came out afterwards. The police officer had happened to spot a vehicle he later would connect to David's case. And the neighbor would remember this detail of David's car being in the driveway just again by happenstance. It's also a red vehicle, so probably easy to remember. Oh yeah, no, I saw his car in the driveway yesterday, so that's what's happening. So it is unknown if the police officer who noted the suspiciously parked red Explorer was able to confirm via the license plate that the car did indeed belong to David, nor has the sighting of him at the airport been confirmed with 100% accuracy,
Starting point is 00:09:26 though his church friend claims that she was sure of what she had seen. But this was only the beginning of muddled information, messy timelines, and unsubstantiated tips, sightings, and rumors that have led David's case to go unsolved for more than 30 years. The next day on Sunday, January 31st, the big Super Bowl Sunday, a deputy spotted a man whom he claimed resembled David Lewis standing across the street from the Potter County Courts building where his car had supposedly been parked two days prior on Friday.
Starting point is 00:10:06 The deputy watched as this man photographed the Redford Explorer, which was again parked in front of that building. That afternoon, the highly anticipated Super Bowl was recorded on the family's VCR back at home, so David may have scheduled the recording to begin instead of starting it manually, but one source claims that he himself would have had to have pressed record as the players marched onto the field. And this distinction is still unknown,
Starting point is 00:10:37 but obviously would be really good to know because this would tell us whether or not he was sitting in his home watching the game that evening, or if he was somewhere else entirely. Well, that Super Bowl was a monumental one for Texas residents and sports fans alike, as the Dallas Cowboys were playing the Buffalo Bills, and this was a game that David had a vested interest in as an avid Texas sports fan. The game kicked off between the two competitors
Starting point is 00:11:05 at 525 p.m. Amarillo time, broadcasted from the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. Notably, the coin toss was done by O.J. Simpson and the halftime show was performed by Michael Jackson. Just to throw that in there, obviously doesn't matter to the story, but it is kind of interesting. Now, later that night, shortly before midnight, Karen and Lauren returned from Dallas after a late night arrival at the Amarillo airport. When they entered the house, Karen noticed that the lights had been left on and the VCR had not been manually stopped at the conclusion of the game, which would obviously make one think that David wasn't there to turn it off. Now, allegedly the VHS tape, which had six
Starting point is 00:11:49 hours of runtime, had filled up and ejected itself, though, again, this detail has not been confirmed by law enforcement. At the house, neither David nor his car were present. There was still fresh, untouched laundry in the dryer, and there were two newly made turkey sandwiches in the fridge, which Karen assumed David had made to eat for dinner during halftime, but just hadn't gotten around to doing so. Or as we wonder now, hadn't been home to do so because something happened. Strangely, his wedding ring and his watch had been left behind inside the house. Though Karen hadn't heard from him about his plans for the evening,
Starting point is 00:12:32 she for whatever reason assumed that he was in the office working late despite it being Super Bowl Sunday, or perhaps he decided to enjoy the game at the home of a friend. Which many people do, especially for something as big as the Super Bowl. Well either way, she just wasn't too worried at this point because he was a grown man and he could have easily popped out to do something. And they were so tired, they had just had a very long few days of having fun, mother and daughter, so the two just went to sleep. And the following morning, Monday, February 1st, Karen awoke to find that David had neither
Starting point is 00:13:07 contacted her nor returned home, which she found really odd. Meanwhile that same day, a cab driver in Dallas claims that he drove a man who matched David's description from a hotel to the nearby Dallas-Fort Worth airport, which again is where Karen and Lauren had just been the day before. The driver remembered that the passenger appeared to be nervous and flustered, fumbling through a thick wad of hundred dollar bills to pay his cab fare, which I want you guys to remember because I think that is such an interesting detail. So, I mean, let's talk about this for a second
Starting point is 00:13:48 because this is really weird. If this was David, he would have needed to go take the hour flight to Dallas from Amarillo and get a hotel room likely the day before, right? Like, this is just so odd, but it's also tough because David didn't have like a terribly unique appearance. And I also feel like it's difficult to be able to confirm a stranger's identity like this, especially later on. Because again, this guy, this cab driver, while he's driving him, he's not saying,
Starting point is 00:14:17 hey, you were just reported missing in Amarillo. He doesn't know that. This was reported later. And I was actually thinking about this. My sister called me earlier and she just mentioned that her husband was at lunch and he was approached by this, you know, young woman who said, Oh, are you Charlotte's husband? Like tell her I said hi. And my sister literally sent him a photo to confirm if it was a particular girl
Starting point is 00:14:39 who he had just seen minutes earlier. And he said that he didn't know and he had just seen her. So was this cab driver correct? He probably sees so many people, it's not like he's looking at David or any of his passengers the whole ride, other than in the rearview mirror. You know, I don't know. But with what's to come, this potential sighting in Dallas is such a spooky possibility. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you that it's kind of hard,
Starting point is 00:15:05 but I wonder what made this cab driver think initially that this was in fact David. Like, did he see a picture of him? Did he see him on the news? I mean, how did he get this information that this guy who was missing was the same guy in his cab? I have no idea, honestly. Yeah, I mean, to me, this sounds like it probably isn't connected with what's to come
Starting point is 00:15:29 It's hard for me to believe that this situation unfolded that way But we will get into that in a bit yeah, because we are gonna talk about Another sighting of David that is very very very very very credible that happened that same day And I'll tell you right now, it wasn't even in Texas. So take this with a grain of salt, but definitely an interesting thing for this cab driver to claim. But back in Amarillo, the afternoon rolled around and Karen still had not heard from her husband.
Starting point is 00:16:00 After he missed two back to back appointments that day at work, which is something that very responsible and hardworking David would not have done, Karen called the police to report her 39-year-old husband missing. Within hours of the missing person's report being filed, police came upon his Red Ford Explorer still parked outside the Potter County courts building where it had been spotted twice by two different deputies in the days before. Inside were his car keys stuck under the floor mat. His wife Karen did later say that this was something he usually did. I feel like back in the day, a lot of people did this or they put them in the sun. What is that thing called? The visor?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yes, of course, the visor. So this wasn't too weird that it was found like that. But also on top of this, his checkbook, his driver's license, and two credit cards were also inside his car. So all of his very important items that you'd want to keep on you. Further complicating matters and giving credence to the idea that perhaps he had staged his own disappearance was the fact that David had reportedly purchased two different airline tickets for the weekend that he disappeared.
Starting point is 00:17:18 On Super Bowl Sunday, January 31, 1993, a plane ticket in David's name was purchased from Dallas to Amarillo. But remember, this is the day before a cab driver said that he drove him from a Dallas hotel to the Dallas airport. So that's really weird. And then that wouldn't explain how he even got to Dallas. But unfortunately, whether or not the ticket was used is unknown, though it seems like a striking coincidence that his wife and daughter happened to be in Dallas
Starting point is 00:17:51 at the time, but David never conveyed any plans to Karen that indicated he planned to join them or also go there separately. Then the following day, Monday, February 1st, 1993, a second ticket was purchased in David's name. This time from Los Angeles to Dallas with a layover in Amarillo. And why layover in Amarillo if that's where you live? But then maybe that would say that he didn't go from Dallas to Amarillo the day before, like he
Starting point is 00:18:26 had allegedly purchased in a ticket, and now he's somehow in LA and needs to get back to Dallas and not just go straight to Amarillo like this flight would have done anyway. What's really interesting here is that kind of none of this actually matters though, because back in the day you actually didn't have to have identification to be able to purchase a plane ticket so there could have been you know a David Lewis a different David Lewis altogether that had purchased these tickets but nobody really knows if this particular David Lewis from Amarillo Texas was the one who did it so it's it's really hard to say here yeah and David Lewis is obviously not a super unique name either. So it could have absolutely been somebody else. But but it's still so weird to think about
Starting point is 00:19:13 the fact that a different David Lewis would buy tickets to these places at that very same time that he went missing. And then there's the weird Dallas connection. Like it's hard for me to believe this would be in a different David Lewis altogether but it's absolutely possible because Not only again could they not confirm if any David Lewis did take any of these flights But they couldn't confirm who exactly it was and if it was this David Lewis Well in speaking with investigators Karen revealed that David had received death threats sometime before his disappearance, though he wouldn't explain to her exactly what was going on, likely for fear of Karen's own safety.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So it's very likely that, you know, maybe he had some dangerous secrets that the investigation would definitely love to know about. Now, once he moved into private law practice and began working for Buckner, Lara, and Swindell, Karen says that there are two possible cases in which he may have made enemies. One was a lawsuit brought forward by a convicted murderer named Bobby Templin against his former father-in-law Norbert Schlegel. So basically Bobby had been accused of murdering his young wife via electrocution at their home in Rattan, Texas, which is about three hours west of the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
Starting point is 00:20:30 On April 11, 1976, the victim, 20-year-old Rhonda Templin, who had been married to Bobby for only three years, was taking a bath in their tub, though some sources claim that it was actually a shower, when Bobby allegedly placed a live electrical wire under her arm. So horrifically, when the shock hit the water, Rhonda was electrocuted and she was killed. Now Bobby claimed that it was an accident, but Rhonda's parents leveled a lawsuit against him claiming that Bobby stood to gain $10,000, or over $50,000 today, for an accidental death insurance policy on Rhonda's life. Her father, Norbert, later leveled a civil suit against Bobby with the only motivation
Starting point is 00:21:14 being to, quote, have a continuing investigation into the death of our daughter. The prosecution later claimed that he had a penchant for this behavior, because two of his cousins and his uncle testified that as young as 10 years old, a little bit of an animal abuse warning here, Bobby would electrocute dogs and cats for fun, which is absolutely disgusting, and this would say a lot about his character and violent nature, but of course, Bobby denied all of this. Well, initially Bobby was sentenced to 99 years in prison for his wife's believed murder, but his conviction was eventually overturned
Starting point is 00:21:53 because this revelation was found inadmissible in court due to it being hearsay, as well as a decade prior. However, at his next trial, Bobby was again found guilty of murder and sentenced to 99 years for a second time. And here's where David comes in, because he was hired to represent Bobby in a libel suit that Bobby actually filed against the victim's father, Norbert, in 1992, after hearing that Norbert had spoken in the press of Bobby's Ted Bundy-like charm.
Starting point is 00:22:27 So remember, this was only a year before David disappeared. So David was representing Bobby in the lawsuit until Bobby himself withdrew it. When questioned if his former son-in-law would have been involved in whatever happened to David, Norbert Schlegel himself weighed in on David's disappearance actually saying quote, I think someone abducted David and killed him. But he said that it had most likely not involved Bobby because he didn't have any money and he also had obviously no means of orchestrating a murder from behind prison walls. Norbert continued saying quote, what would be the motive? He wouldn't have gained anything. And I agree with this. It's not like he did something to Bobby in particular. All he did was
Starting point is 00:23:16 represent Bobby in a case that Bobby himself withdrew. So yeah I think I don't know. I feel like police probably looked into it knowing how violent Bobby was like They were kind of like we need something here I think they were just grasping at straws totally and there is another case that Honestly, like you're saying Heath is pretty similar in that it's probably not involved, but I'll tell you guys about it anyway so because detective Smith detective James Smith who worked on this, did investigate this as a possible connection because there was a $3 million lawsuit brought against David by several lawyers and an engine oil additive company, whom David formally represented.
Starting point is 00:23:59 David was the final key party who was awaiting deposition for the trial and strangely, Karen reported after his disappearance that David's files on this case were gone. And there have been no reports about what happened to them, where they may have gone, or whether they were ever recovered. However, his fellow attorney claimed that the other members of the lawsuit stood to gain nothing from taking David out of the equation as well, because he bore no personal or financial responsibility for the outcome of the case.
Starting point is 00:24:32 So this was kind of a dead end too. I mean, I think it has a little bit more of a plausibility just because money was involved. I mean, you're thinking about $3 million. That's quite a bit of money back in 1993. So I would see this as more plausible, but I do agree. Probably not the conclusion of David's disappearance. Yeah, I agree with you. And I think if in the Bobby situation, if in that case,
Starting point is 00:24:58 you know, I don't know if David like fumbled the case and it was what sent Bobby to prison or something. If there was kind of, um, something more along those lines where David's actions directly resulted in somebody getting screwed over, that would make more sense. But none of this is making any connection. Nobody has any reason to get rid of him at least as far as we know. Um, but like you were saying earlier, Heath as well, he was getting death threats. So what were those about? We, we don't know. But like you were saying earlier, Heath, as well, he was getting death threats. So what were those about? We don't know. Well, Detective James
Starting point is 00:25:31 Smith worked on the case for months straight, including investigating a possible connection to his upcoming court case. Detective Smith mused, quote, I changed my mind a lot on this. I wake up at 2 in the morning thinking, whatever happened to David Lewis? As days and then weeks passed, Karen was just dumbfounded at the lack of information into her husband's whereabouts. She said in an interview, quote, there's just no explanation. Where did he go from the Explorer? All the families suspect foul play.
Starting point is 00:26:04 We have from day one. Now, at first, detectives announced that they believed foul play was involved, but as time wore on, their suspicions were essentially evenly distributed between abduction, suicide, and also, David voluntarily walking away from his family and his life. On Tuesday, December 7th, 1993, nearly 11 months after David disappeared, the Amarillo Police Department announced that they were suspending their search for David Glenn Lewis and taking James Smith off the case full time. And after months of speculation, Amaril police announced that they had concluded that foul play was not likely, and were instead leaning towards the conclusion that David was the mastermind behind his own disappearance.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Lieutenant Ed Smith with the Special Crimes Unit told the press, "...we have inactivated the case, which means that we have no more leads to go through. If he ever shows up, his name is listed as missing." Though his family, and especially his wife and daughter, proclaimed their certainty that he would have not left on his own volition, the press reported, quote, "...months into the investigation, officers said that they were stumped by conflicting signs. Lewis was abducted, killed himself, or simply walked away from a high-profile
Starting point is 00:27:25 civic and professional life. But James Smith responded to this dejectedly by saying quote, if we thought there was some foul play we'd still be working on it. Karen and Lauren were forced to move on despite their suspicions that something in David's life had gone seriously wrong. And it would be more than 10 years before his remains were connected to his death, despite having died the same day, the day that A. David Lewis had a returning flight to Dallas from Los Angeles with a stop in Amarillo, on this same day on a stretch of Highway 24 in Yakima County, Washington near the small town of Moxie, a hit-and-run incident occurred that left a man deceased. Now for those who don't know,
Starting point is 00:28:45 if you live in a different country, Washington is two states above California, and a few hours flight from Los Angeles, where David very well may have been headed. This deceased man was referred to as a John Doe for 11 years. Thanks to the hard work of Washington State Patrol Detective Pat Ditter, these remains were finally linked to David Glenn Lewis in 2004.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Okay, so, so weird that he ends up in a completely different state than the states that we've been talking about already, Texas, Los Angeles, I mean, California, but still, yeah, it's so weird that he's in Washington. Yeah, and it's not like anywhere that he was, was on a border and he was just over the border, like Washington, where he is, Yakima County, Washington, is nowhere near any of this. So it is honestly wild to me
Starting point is 00:29:42 that this connection was ever made at all, but here's how it happened So using old photographs and missing persons information in an effort to actually close decades old cold cases Pat didder began cross referencing his local cases with missing persons cases from other states And that's when he came upon David Lewis from other states, and that's when he came upon David Lewis. So he scoured Google for a week before finally settling on David, who resided, of course, about 1,600 miles or over 2,500 kilometers away from where he had been found dead on
Starting point is 00:30:19 the side of the road in Washington State. Larry Lewis, David's brother, spoke gratefully about Pat's detective work saying, quote, "'If he hadn't looked at those cases, we would still be back at square one, thinking he's alive and going to give us a call one of these days. He did an excellent job.'" And I mean, what a crazy revelation to have
Starting point is 00:30:44 when, you know, as his brother to say, oh my god, he's been in Washington this whole time and he was found and he was hit and died that same day that he was reported missing. And we just had no idea. It makes you wonder how many other cases are like this. It honestly just gives you chills because you think about the fact that, you know, it had been 11 years and it's not like he went missing and then you know a couple years later he died somewhere else it's like the same day that he was reported missing is when he was struck and killed on the side of
Starting point is 00:31:17 that road in Washington so why was he why was he there what was he doing you know it's just crazy. It's beyond perplexing. And as far as his family was concerned, David, by the way, had no ties to Central Washington or Washington State or the Pacific Northwest, really, sorry. And his reason for being there remains a mystery to this very day. So relatives still maintain that he was abducted. According to witnesses who drove past him that night, the night he died, David had been walking along Highway 24 near Revard Road in Moxie, Washington along a dark stretch of highway and had been virtually unnoticeable by motorists.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Moxie is a small community just outside of the Yakima reservation in central Washington only minutes southeast of the city of Yakima. And I know we were just talking about how this location is really strange but I want to go into it a little bit deeper for a second. I mean I don't want to put too much credence in the return flight from Los Angeles to Dallas because it's so confusing as it is. We don't know for sure if it was this David Lewis, even though I feel like that would be so weird
Starting point is 00:32:31 if it was a different one that very day, you know? It would be. But I don't know the David Lewis population, so that's not for me to speak on. But for those who have not driven on the West Coast, Heath and I live in LA, Heath is from Oregon, as many of you guys know. So I just want to put this into perspective
Starting point is 00:32:49 a little bit for you guys. So driving from Los Angeles up to Washington is a straight shot up the I-5 freeway. Like Los Angeles is right on the I-5. Portland, Oregon is right on the I-5. Seattle, Washington is right on the I-5. But Yakima is about three hours east on the I-5. Seattle, Washington is right on the I-5. But Yakima is about three hours east of the I-5. So it's not like maybe he road tripped up
Starting point is 00:33:12 and then just popped off the highway and something happened. That doesn't make sense anyway, because as we'll get into, there were no reported sightings of him hitchhiking or somebody saying that, oh, I drove him up there actually. We had a long 15 hour drive from LA to Washington together. Or actually it would be more than that. It'd probably be like 18 hours.
Starting point is 00:33:31 It just makes it feel even more random, especially him being in this small area of Yakima County. It makes absolutely no sense. Yeah, and there's no receipt of him buying a flight anywhere in Washington, you know I don't know if there's an airport in Yakima. I'm not sure I'm sure there is an airport somewhere in Eastern Washington but but who knows did he fly into there? Was he you know, what's he flown by someone else on a on a private plane? Like what like what happened here?
Starting point is 00:34:06 And I mean, even weirder, it's not like he was spotted in a diner with a business associate. He's just walking along a road alone. Right. Well, multiple motorists recall seeing David laying along the road, though whether this was before or after he was struck is unknown. Around 1030pm on the evening of Monday, February 1st, 1993, a few cars actually doubled back after seeing David, hoping to report what they were seeing in an effort to save him. But by the time these cars drove by again, it was just too late.
Starting point is 00:34:40 David had been struck and lay dead on the side of the road. Other drivers in the vicinity at the time he was struck by a vehicle reported seeing a Chevy Camaro having been the car who hit him. But no one knows the identity of the driver or whether or not the driver had been with David at any point in time. Which is a whole other angle of this case, like, is the fact that we don't even know who hit him, we don't know how he got here So did the person who hit him have something to do with his disappearance? Yeah with with how he got to Washington in the first place or was
Starting point is 00:35:15 Did he get there in some other fashion? When I won't speculate on that right now and then because he was walking in the road he got hit but then why would he be walking in the road to get hit like I can't I can't figure this out yeah none of it really makes any sense well when David's body was removed from the highway for his autopsy he was not found to have any drugs or alcohol in his system he had no identification and no belongings with him except for the thick pair of glasses which he always wore, though he was not wearing the glasses at the time, they were instead
Starting point is 00:35:51 stashed in his pocket. His family noted that David's eyesight was very poor, and he would not have been able to see without them. In fact, it was these distinctive glasses that eventually linked the John Doe back to David Lewis. And when Pat Ditter spotted these glasses on the websites for the Doe Network and the Texas Department of Public Safety, he suspected that there was a link between the two. And on Monday, October 4th, 2004, confirmation was made via a DNA match between David's remains and his mother,
Starting point is 00:36:27 Esther. His family was notified the next day, and the announcement was made in the press later that week. At the time of his death, David had not been wearing any jewelry or easily identifiable accessories, and strangely, this is really odd, he was clad in distressed army fatigues and work boots. And this, I mean, this really came as a huge shock to his wife, Karen. This made no sense to her because she wasn't aware
Starting point is 00:36:57 that he was in possession of such an outfit, and he really took great pride in his appearance. He always looked nice. Yeah. Always dressing to the nines. Yeah. And so this just added another mysterious layer to the case. Like if you Heath were found somewhere in army fatigues, I'd be like, what? Like what the hell happened to you? Yeah. I mean, it doesn't, I will, I do want to add actually, um, in Yakima,
Starting point is 00:37:23 there is the Yakima Training Army Base. So that could help explain this. I mean, it can't help explain this because it's still, we still don't know why he was wearing these. I want to say right now that I did read online, a lot of people mentioned that, you know, it was the nineties. And so wearing maybe Army fatigues
Starting point is 00:37:44 would make somebody more likely to pick you up if you were hitchhiking because they wanted to help the vets. But still, like, that's such a like how would David have the foresight to think, Oh, you know, I'm going to go buy some army fatigues and that'll make it that'll make me more likely to be picked up by by a driver. What? Yeah, this detail is really weird to me, like, because I can see a couple different scenarios if I was to speculate on this, like, if he was abducted and, you know, was at some, like, work camp or like, I don't know, or maybe he was, thought he was being chased and this was his way of kind of like trying to, I don't know, maybe he was like getting away from
Starting point is 00:38:24 Texas because someone was after him and he needed to be very discreet about his look and change it up and whatever. Yeah, this would be totally different to, nobody would expect for him to be wearing fatigues, but obviously this sparked a number of conspiracy theories, including that maybe David was a part of some military operation, that he was killed as collateral damage or like a warning sign to others. But we know how busy David was. What are the chances he's a part of some mysterious military operation on top of helping women in domestic violence situations,
Starting point is 00:39:02 helping kids, being an attorney, being a dad, being a husband, like working at Sunday school and being in a choir. What? Yeah, I mean, and it's weird because there's no like evidence of him joining any group or, you know, being picked up by some military operation. There's just no evidence of that. So it's hard to like, it's hard to go there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, and this could very well mean nothing. Some people wonder if maybe somebody forced him to wear it so that it would throw investigators off the trail and nobody would connect the cases over time. But I mean, it's really anybody's guess. Well, based on what was missing from his closet, Karen believed that he had actually been clad in green sweatpants at the time of his disappearance, but those have never been recovered. And obviously he wasn't wearing those when he was found.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And that's another part of this as well. Nowadays, I love flying in sweatpants. You know, anytime I think about the old days or even current days, like anytime I see a man in a full suit on an airplane, I know he's probably traveling for business, but that is wild to me. For this thing away from what I would do.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah, like we want to become V on a plane, of course. But this was the early 90s, and we know that David always dressed nice. So he wouldn't have just thrown green sweatpants on and gotten on a flight, or at least according to his wife. So and then there was nothing else missing. So what was he wearing when he left the house? How did he leave the house? Where did he go from there?
Starting point is 00:40:41 And how did he get in the fatigues in Washington State? So because the discovery of his body back in 1993 and the circumstances therein, because they were so suspicious, David was unable to be identified, so he was buried in an unmarked grave in March of 1993 until his true identity was finally revealed 11 years later. The Manor of Death was ruled an accident at the time because they had no reason to think it was suspicious, right? This is just an unknown man walking along a road and he happened to get hit. But now since so much time has passed, his body being found really just brings way more questions than answers.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And though his family maintained that he had no history of mental illness, he had complained that he hadn't been feeling well just three days before he disappeared. And, you know, maybe the pressure of his high-powered job, as well as an impending lawsuit with lawyers from his former firm, was kind of getting to him. Or at least police have speculated on this. Really the most confounding detail is how David managed to travel from Amarillo to Moxie in just over 24 hours without being seen or tracked, and with these confusing flights added in from Amarillo to Dallas and from LA to Dallas that weekend. And for those wondering, the drive itself would have taken nearly 24 hours without stops.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And remember, David's credit cards were not used and his Ford Explorer remained in Amarillo. And remember, it was downtown, so it was not parked at his house. So how he could be seen by a police officer in town on Sunday, January 31st, and then turn up suspiciously dead in another part of the country is puzzling to say the least. Especially for to believe that he himself pressed record on that VCR to capture the Super Bowl. He would have had to do this at 5.30pm on Sunday night, and by 10.30pm on Monday night, he was dead on the side of
Starting point is 00:42:45 the road in Washington. If someone had taken him forcibly from Texas to Washington maybe they took turns driving in order to complete the drive in as little time as possible. Maybe David himself hitchhiked or flew there though it would be pretty surprising that no witnesses came forward to report sightings of him during his journey in between the two States. The only thing I'll say about that is because nobody in Washington knew to be on the lookout for David Lewis. Yeah. It's possible that they,
Starting point is 00:43:16 that the person that did help him potentially just didn't come forward because they haven't heard about this case to this day. This is not like the Zodiac cases. This is such a lesser known story even now. So I wouldn't be that surprised that no one came forward, but I still am not of the belief that he just hitchhiked. And then, of course, we know that there were no other flights in his name. But I mean, if he were coerced, a private plane could have potentially been
Starting point is 00:43:46 involved. Yeah, and I just wish, I really wish that we had some sort of witnesses throughout the time, you know, there was a few days that David was apparently traveling. I just wish we had a few witnesses from other places, maybe from Washington that had seen him somewhere. But I mean, yeah, a stranger blows into town. You don't really pay attention. Well, also thinking about how his church friend saw him on Friday. So two days before he really went missing, saw him on Friday rushing through the Amarillo
Starting point is 00:44:20 airport. So what was that about? Because he didn't have a flight scheduled that day. So then you wonder, was he potentially using a different name? And there are other flights that we don't know about? Did he have a false identity that we're not considering? Because did he get on a plane that day? What was that about?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Or did someone kind of like misremember the situation and maybe he was dropping his wife and daughter off at the airport because they were traveling to Dallas. But they went the day before that. And I think if she was at the airport on Friday, you know, she would have had a trip planned and she would know for sure it was that day. So that just adds another layer.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And of course, we do have to consider, you know, the possibility that he did leave on his own accord, though his family has frowned on this. Some have speculated that David leaving his wedding ring and watch behind was symbolic, that maybe he didn't want to be identified, knowing that his body would be found. Or perhaps he left them as a gift to Karen so that she could have them to remember him by. But why?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah, I don't know. But this outcome does somewhat kind of align with David depositing a large sum of cash shortly before he vanished. Though his family maintains in no uncertain terms that this is not what happened, and that he would never have walked away from his job, his family, and his responsibilities in such a careless way. Yeah, people have all sorts of reasons to want to start a new life. Tons of people have secrets,
Starting point is 00:45:47 but the way this all happened is just too confusing. He had a great job. He had a great life with his little family. He helped his community. He didn't seem like a flighty person. It just feels so off. I think some of the biggest questions remain, where did that 5K come from? And why was he allegedly taking a photo of his own car downtown?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Because remember an officer said that he identified David essentially, you know, he remembered later, oh wait, I saw that guy taking a picture of the red Ford Explorer downtown. Why the hell would he do that? Yeah, and then they made the link, the connection that that was David taking the picture. I mean, I've read so many theories about this case, from people wondering if he was maybe helping a victim of domestic abuse escape to Washington.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like, some people question his wife because she allegedly refused to take a polygraph test. Some question if he was committing a crime and the flights were his alibi. You name it. Every theory exists on this case because there is so little information. So few answers. And sadly, due to a lack of public information, the loss of 11 years of valuable investigation time before his body was linked to his disappearance, and the low amount of publicity the case has received, who knows if this case will ever find resolution.
Starting point is 00:47:13 David's father Herschel died in 2010, his brother Larry died in 2015, and his mom Esther followed in 2019 without ever knowing what really happened to David that weekend. Thankfully, Karen and Lauren were able to move forward with their lives in some ways. In 2013, Lauren got married and her dad's college ring and wedding ring were affixed to her bouquet in his honor. And we can only hope that someday she will have answers as to why her father was taken far too soon Thank you so much everybody for listening to this episode of going west yes Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Going West. Yes. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. I always say that I want to know what you guys think about a case,
Starting point is 00:48:08 but this case in particular, I really got to know what you guys think. So please head on over to our socials. We're on Instagram at Going West podcast and we're also on Facebook. We have a discussion group there and let's chat about this case. I mean, this case is like this where it feels so impossible to have some kind of idea in your mind as to what happened because there's so many missing parts. And I mean, I know that everything seems confusing
Starting point is 00:48:34 until you have the answers, because when you have answers, it's like, oh, well, he was here because of this, because this happened. So I just wish so bad that the investigation had more, obviously because it's unsolved though. There may very well be a lot of things that the police know that we don't.
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