Going West: True Crime - Dustin Kjersem / Update // 452

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Part 1 posted on October 29, 2024 - Episode 449. On October 10, 2024, a 35-year-old Montana man was murdered in his tent while camping in a secluded Montana site. Thanks to DNA found on a beer can in ...his tent, police arrested his killer three weeks later, on October 31, 2024. This is the updated story of Dustin Kjersem. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is going on true crime fans? I'm your host T and I'm your host Daphne and you're listening to going West Hello everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in today. As many of you know, last week we discussed the happening now case of Dustin Jersey. And there were some updates as soon as the day after we published the episode. So we kind of wanted to wait a few days to see how much information would be released. And we've just been following the news every single day on this. And now just felt like a good time to update you guys because there is a lot to talk about because his killer has been arrested and named and Heath and I have been doing some serious digging and sleuthing. Oh yeah, we've been doing some digging and you guys are going to be super surprised.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Also, I just wanted to let you guys know that if you want to see photos from this case, I will say the alleged killer, photos of the alleged killer, because he has not been convicted yet, go on over to our socials. We're on Instagram at Going West podcast. We're also on Facebook. We have the discussion group where we can talk about this case and also just our regular Going West true crime page. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And of course, I just want to say that that again our hearts really go out to Dustin's family we can't imagine what they're feeling right now with this news but we are going to put that GoFundMe link once again in the description of this episode Heath and I donated it would be awesome if you guys did as well if you're able to to help support his kids during this very very unimaginable time. So thank you guys so much in advance. Thank you for listening. And without further ado.
Starting point is 00:01:49 All right, guys, this is episode 452 of Going West. So let's get into it. We're coming at you. Is the movie event of the holiday season. Santa Claus has been kidnapped? You're gonna help us find him. You can't trust this guy. He's on the list. He's a naughty lister. Naughty l Lister Dwayne Johnson we got snowman Chris Evans you
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Starting point is 00:03:47 while camping near Big Sky, a murder that rattled the entire nation. Gersom was found dead at his campsite along Moose Creek Road. His death was initially thought to be the result of a bear attack. The campsite was a gruesome crime scene and investigators carefully collected evidence
Starting point is 00:04:02 to identify the suspect. The Gallatin County Sheriff arresting 41 year old Darren Abbey, who they say confessed to the vicious murder of Dustin Giersum, an avid outdoorsman and father who never returned from a camping trip. This weekend we lost our brother, our son, our uncle, our best friends, our son, our uncle, our best friends, and our dad in the most unimaginable way. According to court documents, Abbey was located in Butte by the Butte Police Department the morning of Saturday, October 26, and taken into custody on a probation violation. If you have some need to quit these types of crimes, let it be known we will hunt you down and we will make sure that you never see the light of day again.
Starting point is 00:05:04 We know most of you guys probably listened to the first episode on Dustin Jerson, but if you didn't, check it out in episode 449 and then come back here because we go over a lot of stuff over there even though we also had a lot of questions that have since been answered. So of course we will correct everything that has been clarified in this episode today. Now that said, for those who aren't super fresh on the episode or need reminding on certain details, we are gonna run through everything with the updates.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Okay, so as we know, Dustin was an amazing person. Father, son, brother, friend, he was very handy, a tradesman. He worked in construction, which he actually had in common with his killer, but we will get into that. Now Dustin was also a major outdoorsman. He loved fishing, camping, snowboarding, you name it. He had high quality camping gear and loved spending his free time outside. So even in October of this year, 2024, when it was kind of outside of typical camping
Starting point is 00:06:09 season for most people, but still, you know, before the weather turned, Dustin decided to head out camping. Now as we mentioned in part one, Dustin was planning to meet a friend, but actually it was his girlfriend. So I think it's really interesting because I think most of us assume that his friend was a male, just because the sheriff's department only said friend, they didn't say anything else. So I think we all assume, oh, he's going camping with his buddy. Yeah, and a lot of us probably also were assuming that maybe this friend could have been responsible for what happened to Dustin. But to clarify here today, that is not what happened and his girlfriend was the one to
Starting point is 00:06:49 actually find him. Yeah, I think, you know, naturally all of us were wondering that because we had no information, which is why in part one we did say we don't know. But of course, naturally we are curious. But that wasn't the case. You know, he was going to go camping that weekend with his girlfriend. But yeah, before that episode came out, the sheriff, the department,
Starting point is 00:07:09 and every news source reporting on Dustin's case referred to this person exclusively as Dustin's friend with no other details until an arrest was made. And the sheriff held another press conference to give some new details. So Dustin was gearing up for what was supposed to be a relaxing, beautiful camping weekend with his girlfriend in the stunning tree covered landscape just under an hour outside of Bozeman,
Starting point is 00:07:35 Montana at the base of the Gallatin Mountains. The plan was for them to begin camping together as of Friday, October 11th, again 2024, because she worked during the week and wouldn't be available until Friday evening, which was okay because they had the whole weekend ahead of them. But Dustin wanted to get some extra camping in. So he decided to head down and snag a spot a day early on Thursday, October 10th. And, you know, this happens a lot as well sometimes
Starting point is 00:08:06 when you're gonna meet people to go camping you want to scope out the area make sure that you can snag one before the weekend because as we know even you know in offseason sometimes those camping spots can get booked up pretty quick or you might not be able to find one so Dustin was thinking ahead and he snagged one on Thursday. Yeah and we know that this was a dispersed campsite again, so it wasn't regulated, there wasn't, you know, you didn't have to pay for the spot. So even more so, it's not like you can reserve a camp spot. So I doubt that it was super busy, especially with what happened, but maybe he had a particular area that he really liked and wanted to make sure it was available and thought he would go down early, which we have absolutely done before as well. And on top of that, he is an outdoorsman. He loves camping, so maybe he was just very excited to go.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, absolutely. So he did exactly that. On Thursday, just over four weeks before we're recording and releasing this episode, he found a beautiful spot near Big Sky, Montana, a quiet spot right by Moose Creek, roughly 2.5 miles off Highway 191, just off of Moose Creek Road in a dispersed campsite, so outside of a designated campsite located on public land. Of course, as Daphne mentioned. Now, by himself, 35-year- old Dustin set up a great camp. He had a massive 10-foot wall tent that included a wood stove, a bed, lamps, etc. I mean he went all out to make it comfortable for his girlfriend and it was probably set
Starting point is 00:09:36 up to be like this romantic and memorable weekend together or at least it was supposed to be. Now jumping ahead just a bit, Dustin was set to, after setting up his campsite and enjoying it for one night by himself on Thursday evening, to head back to the Bozeman area to pick up his girlfriend on Friday night after she got off work. So he was gonna go back, he was gonna pick up his girlfriend, take her up to the campsite and they were just gonna enjoy this wonderful weekend together. But Dustin never showed up. In part one we mentioned that he was supposed to meet his friend on Friday. We didn't know where or why, if they were going to camp somewhere else together, or what the situation was because it hadn't been released yet. But now we know that this
Starting point is 00:10:20 meeting place with his friend, or his girlfriend, was at her home to pick her up. But when Dustin didn't show up, she got worried. Remember, there was no cell phone service at the campsite, so she couldn't reach Dustin by phone. So we can only imagine that she didn't know what was going on when he didn't show up. Yeah, like did something happen on the road? Did something happen at the campsite?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Did he just fall asleep? Did he go out and you know something happened during the day and he got hurt? Like there was probably a million things going through her mind. Exactly, she was very worried at this point, but it was night and the campsite was an hour away. So she decided that the next morning on Saturday October 12th, 2024, if he still hadn't shown up, she would go out there to find him herself. And that's exactly what she did. She arrived at the spot around 10am with a friend, coming up to Dustin's truck and his campsite.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And when she opened the tent, that's when she found Dustin deceased. Which, you know, obviously I can't even imagine just the shock and fear and terror that she was feeling in that moment. So in that unthinkable confusion, she called the police and mentioned her belief that it could have possibly been a bear attack. Just not really knowing what happened to him. As we know, police and a bear expert assessed the scene and determined that it was not a bear that killed Dustin, but instead a human and a full homicide investigation began. But little did we know when we released part one on October 28th, three days earlier on October 25th, on October 28th, three days earlier on October 25th,
Starting point is 00:12:09 the Montana State Crime Lab had uncovered something very important, a DNA match from a beer can found inside Dustin's tent. This DNA did not belong to Dustin, and this beer can was taken in by law enforcement as they tested multiple items at the scene to see if they could in fact get some sort of DNA match and then they did. Again naturally we were all wondering if the person who took Dustin's life was somebody else that he knew because the crime seemed so brutal and so personal.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Like maybe somebody else knew that he was camping there and decided to retaliate for some unknown reason, right? But Dustin actually did not have any known ties to his killer because the DNA found on the beer can belonged to a 41 year old man named Darren Christopher Abbey. Now what is a beer can with another man's identity doing in the same tent that Dustin was found savagely murdered in? Well police wondered the same thing so they worked very hard to track him down and the following day the day after they made this DNA discovery on Saturday October 26th exactly two weeks after Dustin was found dead.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Police found him in a local establishment in Butte, Montana and arrested him, but not in connection to Dustin's murder, not yet. They instead arrested him on unrelated charges for parole violation because Darren has a criminal record. Oh yeah, this guy is a big P.O.S. and you guys are about to find out. So before diving into what else we know about what happened to Dustin, let's talk about what we know about the monster that took his life. In 1983, Darren Abbey was born alongside his twin brother, whose name is actually Dustin.
Starting point is 00:14:07 They grew up in Reno, Nevada and attended Robert McQueen High School there before moving around to many different states like Oregon, Idaho, Alaska, Wyoming, and then eventually Montana. Now, over the years, the brothers worked on construction projects for different companies, but it didn't always go well, because it's apparently been known that both of their anger got in the way of projects. Like one redditor posted regarding this story and said quote, This guy and his twin brother subcontracted painting work from the company that I worked
Starting point is 00:14:40 for. We kicked them off the job eventually for anger issues. This doesn't surprise me. He was a psychopath then." Now obviously we can take this with a grain of salt since, you know, they're Reddit comments, but they do seem to kind of check out here. And another Redditor commented, quote, just double checked with my landlord. Yeah, this guy was literally my next door neighbor. He and his brother lived in the same apartment building as me in Lincoln, Montana. He painted my door in trim.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I remember not getting good vibes from him." And then in another comment, they said, quote, "...this dude knocked on my door one time, asking for Febreze cause his apartment stank and he needed help. My partner kept hanging out with him in the bar and it always made me uneasy that he kept hanging out with this Nazi. I knew that this guy was bad news because oh yeah as we haven't mentioned yet he's a total Nazi and there will be more examples of that to come but eventually Darren and
Starting point is 00:15:41 his brother founded a small independent construction company called Abbey Painting and Construction LLC, and they specialize in quote, all aspects of painting and general construction, log homes staining and chinking, remodels, decks, etc. So Darren spent many years in Montana and had been terrorizing the state in his own way ever since and even beyond Montana. Because back in 2011, he did something absolutely disgusting to a different innocent man. On July 3rd, 2011, 28-year-old Darren Abbey was sitting at a bar in Bayview, Idaho, which is a lakeside community just north of Coeur d'Alene, when
Starting point is 00:16:25 he confronted a 46-year-old black man named Marlon L. Baker and reportedly told him that he, quote, didn't belong there along with other horrific racial slurs. And just so everybody knows, Darren Abbey has numerous offensive tattoos, including an iron cross, which is a known white supremacy symbol, though some claim it to have non-racist uses, we can very much guess that is not the case here. He also has a swastika tattoo and two SS lightning bolt tattoos, which is also a white supremacist slash neo-Nazi derived symbol. So Marlin sees some of the tattoos on Darren's body and not wanting
Starting point is 00:17:06 anything to do with this guy or wanting any trouble from him, 46 year old Marlin Baker left the bar. Now this was a Sunday the day before the 4th of July so there was a boat parade happening down at the marina on Lake Pendere which is the lake that Bayview is located on. So at 9 p.m., Marlin left the bar and walked down to the marina to watch this parade. However, with numerous witnesses, 28-year-old Darren followed him out of the bar and continued to taunt him with racial slurs,
Starting point is 00:17:38 even poking Marlin in the chest as he spoke. So once Darren had put his hands on him, Marlin responded by punching Darren once in the face, which rendered him unconscious. Ha, he got his ass whooped. He got punched square in his Nazi face. Well, other than knocking him out, the best part about this is that the back of Marlin's shirt
Starting point is 00:18:01 said Howard Street Boxing Club Champion, and this is a boxing gym in Spokane, Washington. And he wasn't actually a known boxer or boxing champion, but considering he took Darren out with one punch, it gives us a good laugh. Yes, it does. So after this, Darren, who suffered facial fractures, was taken into custody and arrested for battery and felony malicious harassment
Starting point is 00:18:25 based on Idaho's law against hate crimes. And he was sentenced to three to five years in prison, and Marlin was free to go. I love a beautiful story like that. It's crazy though, because even when Darren was in the Kootenai County jail for his attack on Marlin, numerous reports say, quote, he engaged in similar conduct with a corrections officer
Starting point is 00:18:48 at the jail who is Latino. So I couldn't find more information on that or what he said, but he kept harassing people for not being white. Like this guy is such a piece of shit, like you said. And there was also an incident back in 2004 when he was about 21 years old where he told Coeur d'Alene police, that's that's in Idaho that he was a quote, independent skinhead who didn't like
Starting point is 00:19:10 minorities because he has had so many run ins with the law. But back in 2004 when he, for whatever reason, told this to the police, he was reportedly living as a quote, transient in the CoeurAlene, Idaho area after moving from Montana. And then after he was released from jail for attacking Marlin, he went back to Montana. Now obviously we don't want to focus on Darren's family or even his brother, but we just want to mention things that have come up in our research that could possibly help shape this entire story. So we just want to mention briefly that five months after the attack of Marlin, Darren's brother 33-year-old Micah Abbey was reportedly asphyxiated to death by a Reno police officer. He had been living at a group home for persons with mental illness and or substance abuse, of which Micah was dealing with both according to court documents,
Starting point is 00:20:06 when on December 6, 2011, an officer responded to an incident where Micah is said to have been punching holes in walls and breaking windows. There were multiple incidents following this in the coming weeks, and then on December 25, 2011, Micah was on the phone with Darren regarding Darren's recent arrest for the attack on Marlon L. Baker. Micah was overheard saying that he would quote, be going gangsta on the officers who put his brother in jail, and after hanging up, is said to have been agitated for the remainder of the day. As the evening came, according to court documents, Micah continued to act aggressively, shoving
Starting point is 00:20:45 the on-duty night caretaker against a wall while holding a fork in his hand, yelling obscenities and then telling officers after they arrived that voices in his head were telling him to do things. He also attempted to throw himself out of a window before resisting arrest, enduring a struggle that ensued for multiple minutes with officers pinning Micah down onto his bed trying to taser and handcuff him, Micah stopped being able to breathe. And as a result, he was pronounced dead at 9pm that night.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Their mother, who's actually a licensed clinical social worker specializing in anxiety and panic disorders, depression, grief and loss, etc. began fighting for justice for Micah as soon as this happened, even organizing a protest in 2021. After years of legal battles and formal complaints, in 2017, this was the conclusion of the case. Quote, While we regret that the confrontation between Micah and responding officers came to such a tragic end, given the facts of the case,
Starting point is 00:21:51 we are unable to conclude excessive force was used. Also, I want to mention, according to an article from 2013 on Darren's arrest for the attack on Marlon Baker, quote, Abby's parents are divorced with his father living in Sacramento and his mother still in Reno. She doesn't have any associations with either of her sons, which would obviously be about Darren and his twin brother, Dustin,
Starting point is 00:22:15 possibly due to her professional work with top officials in Reno, including the mayor. So we don't know if that is true, but I definitely found her profession very interesting. I also read that in December of 2003, she apparently kicked Darren out of her Reno home, and then he went to go live with the leader of the Aryan nation, Stephen Holton, who was, by the way, later arrested for sending out mass emails that, quote, promised murder and mayhem to minorities, gays, and anyone against the white power movement.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And this is what Stephen had to say regarding the Marlin attack, quote, for that knockout, he's knocked out two or 300 people and got away with it, but this time he didn't. Well, Darren has garnered four DUIs. Actually, he got his fourth DUI for excessive alcohol consumption, which made it a felony offense, in April of 2020 in Flathead County, Montana. And for this, he was sentenced to five years in prison. And even so, this year in 2024, meaning he was released early, 41-year-old Darren Abbey
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Starting point is 00:24:49 Shopify. Learn more at Shopify.com slash enterprise. On October 30th, 2024, so the day after we released part one on Dustin's case, the Gallatin County Sheriff's Office posted the following statement. Quote, the Gallatin County Sheriff's Office has identified a suspect in the Moose Creek homicide. The suspect is currently in custody on unrelated charges. The suspect is cooperating with our detectives and has led us to the evidence we have identified in prior press releases. The investigation into this homicide continues. It is believed the suspect acted alone and there is no longer a threat to the community.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Further details and charges are forthcoming, but it is important for this community to know they are safe to resume their outdoor activities. The Sheriff's Office will have no further comment in regard to this investigation until charges are filed. And then just a day later, such charges were filed, and they released a little bit more. So what we know about that night, Thursday, October 10th, 2024,
Starting point is 00:26:15 is that Darren Abbey, who is known to be an avid hunter and fisherman, arrived at the dispersed campsite by Moose Creek that Dustin had just recently set up. Now whether Darren was interested in camping in the same spot or was just driving around looking to harm someone or rob someone, we still are not sure. But according to his conversation with the Gallatin Sheriff's Department, he arrived at the campsite that night and was offered a beer by Dustin. For an unknown reason, at an unknown time, Darren struck Dustin Jersum in the head with a nearby piece of firewood, before stabbing him in the neck with a screwdriver and then hitting him in the
Starting point is 00:27:00 face with the blunt side of an axe, which is the backside of an axe. He then continued to strike Dustin until his death before taking the axe to a creek to wash it and also washing the screwdriver in this creek. Darren then admitted to police to taking multiple items from the scene, which we discussed in part one, but there are others as well. Including two coolers, a.44 Magnum pistol and holster, a shotgun, and a shotgun ammunition sleeve. And then from Dustin's truck, he stole binoculars and a headlamp. Then after doing all of this, Darren left the scene entirely and disposed of two phones
Starting point is 00:27:45 that he stole from Dustin's tent, which were found on October 17th. But then he returned to the campsite the following day because he had left his hat at the scene. It's just crazy to know that he went back on Friday, nobody came upon Dustin's body or campsite on Friday, and he was able to go back. Everything was exactly how he left it and get his hat. Yeah, he was taking a real risk by going back to that campsite on Friday, but one thing that he thankfully forgot at that campsite was the beer can that he had drank from, which again was found inside Dustin's tent where his body was also found. Which makes you wonder, like, why was it in his tent?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Did it get thrown in his tent? Were they sitting in Dustin's tent? Like, what- what happened here? It's possible that they were sitting inside Dustin's tent, maybe having a conversation, but Darren actually admitted to the police that he had washed his clothes that he was wearing when he murdered Dustin. Because obviously there was probably a lot of DNA evidence from this very brutal attack. And then he burned his shoes that he
Starting point is 00:28:50 was wearing in a wood stove. Yeah, so he is he's trying to destroy all the evidence here. Exactly. So after law enforcement uncovered his DNA from that beer can, on October 26, 2024, police arrested him at an establishment for a parole violation in Butte, Montana, which is near his home in Basin, Montana. After having him in custody for days and being able to question him, they officially charged Darren Abbey with deliberate homicide and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence, and he is currently on a 1.5 million dollar bail. Darren's fingerprints, of course, were all over the evidence that he stole from Dustin's campsite, and he admitted to killing Dustin on Thursday, October 10th. He admitted to this on October 29th. However, he claims that it was in self-defense. Yeah, fucking right. Considering his vicious past and the fact that he stole
Starting point is 00:29:47 so many of these items from the campground and killed Dustin so horrifically, you and I and probably all of you guys call total bullshit on this. Yeah, don't believe this for a second. So to me, it seems like he just wanted to steal Dustin's gear and guns, and having attacked countless people in his life,
Starting point is 00:30:04 he thought out there in the woods where no one could hear them, that he could get away with Dustin's gear and guns and having attacked countless people in his life, he thought out there in the woods where no one could hear them that he could get away with Dustin's murder. Just having absolutely no care for Dustin's life or his family. And police don't believe this was self-defense either, which is why they charged him with deliberate homicide. And I wonder as well how he came upon Dustin's campsite and just how creepy that would have been like You don't do that You don't just walk up to someone's campsite and bother them like people are out there to find solitude or have family time
Starting point is 00:30:34 Especially at night like mind your business and imagine Dustin is out there alone. There's nobody around It's not like oh, I'm at a campsite where there's, you know, 12, 20, 30 other people neighboring me. There's nobody else around and suddenly this strange man approaches him. Like that must have been really creepy. Well, actually I have my own story that is pretty similar to something like this. You do. Thankfully nothing happened, but years ago I was with some friends and we were at like this remote campsite in Oregon and
Starting point is 00:31:07 It was late at night. We were all sitting around the campfire. You know hanging out wait was this dispersed or like a Fuck what's the word established regulated? No no this was just like on the side of a creek so not not established whatsoever, right? But we're just sitting there around the campfire. We're chilling. We're telling stories. We're having a couple beers. And all of a sudden we see these headlights start driving in to the area that we are, you know, we're camped out at. And so I'm getting kind of worried and I'm like, what the fuck is this car doing out here? Like nobody should be out here. And so me and my buddy, we walk up to this car and we're like, hey, like, what's up? What are you guys doing? We look inside the car.
Starting point is 00:31:48 There's people dressed up like there's a dude dressed up in a bunny costume. Was it Halloween? No, it wasn't. It wasn't. So I'm like, okay, what the hell is going on? Why are these guys dressed up? Right. And they go, well, we're looking for this rave.
Starting point is 00:32:01 We heard that there was this outdoor rave somewhere out in this area And we're like now like we haven't seen anything You know maybe it's down the road you guys should go check down there So anyway they end up leaving and we're like okay that was pretty fucking weird And so we go back to the fire and we're chilling and then about 30 to 45 minutes later Here comes that same car again, and it's mind you it's like this beat up old like Buick or something so really shitty car just getting bad vibes
Starting point is 00:32:30 so I pick up the axe from next to the campfire pick it up and I want to intimidate these guys so I start dragging it in the car I start dragging it in the gravel back towards this car and they're they've got their their at this point It's like midnight, and so it's it's pitch dark out there So other than the campfire in these headlights, so I'm dragging the axe back to him
Starting point is 00:32:53 And I asked him again like you know what are you guys doing? We told you guys. There's no rave here I don't know what you're doing at this campsite like you guys need to figure out where you need to be and One of them said that they had taken That they had like dropped acid or had taken mushrooms or something like that So me and my buddy were just kind of freaked out and we're like no like you guys need to leave you guys need to Figure it out go find your rave. We don't know where it's at right so that entire night I'm in my tent, and I just keep hearing shit outside, and I'm thinking oh God There's that fucking Buick again. Yeah, cuz they could come back and do god knows what exactly nothing nothing happened that night and I'm glad that
Starting point is 00:33:32 nothing happened but it's just weird when you're out there in the middle of nowhere and you're not really expecting people to come upon you and then they do yeah I mean I remember we, one of the, I think the only times I ever camped somewhere that was not a regular campground that you have to pay for was when we were with my dad and your parents and there was a car driving by and somebody stopped and they were trying to come down to where we were
Starting point is 00:33:59 and I was like, what is happening? Like, it's really scary. Yeah, that was at like Salmon Creek when we camped, like underneath that bridge or whatever it was yeah and that was in Oregon so so yeah it's it's scary and it's I feel like it's a known thing that you don't do that you don't come upon somebody while they're camping especially at night you don't do that you know yeah and we also don't know the exact time that Darren came upon Dustin's campsite like we don't know the
Starting point is 00:34:24 exact time, so was it during the day, was it at night? But one thing we do know is that Dustin, being the nice person that he was, decided to invite Darren in, offer him a beer, not knowing or thinking that anything bad or nefarious was gonna happen, and this piece of shit
Starting point is 00:34:45 monster took advantage of him. We also wonder, did the guy ask him for a beer? Was he trying to say, hey, I'm, I'm, you know, came over here looking for a spot. Can I hang out with you? Like we have no idea what happened. So of course that is what Darren said happened, but can we trust him? We obviously don't have Dustin's account, so is he telling the truth?
Starting point is 00:35:08 It's just, it's so, again, scary to think about. We actually did an episode for Heath's birthday this year over on our bonus series that you can find on Patreon and Apple subscriptions, but we told all these scary, near-miss camping tales that are true. Because I feel like everybody who has camped, or camped a good amount at least,
Starting point is 00:35:27 has some type of scary thing that's happened to them in some way. So it's just devastating that this happened. And it's, I can't imagine how freaked out Dustin must've felt. And you know, for anybody saying that, you know, when you go camping, you need to be packing, you need to have something to protect yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Dustin did, and that's the horrifying part here. He had at least two guns. So yeah, well, also for anybody who might be wondering if his brother Dustin was involved, he was not, because Dustin has been in prison since 2022 for also having a fourth DUI offense, and he was rejected parole a little while after his arrest, but he will appear in 2025 because, quote, complete recommended CD treatment needed,
Starting point is 00:36:13 obtained secondary assessment related to cognitive based and anger management needs, and comply with treatment recommendations, Complete victims impact programming. Reasons for denial also include need for CD treatment and victims impact, previous criminal record, pattern of similar offenses, multiple offenses, poor history on supervision. So there's that. But it's also, again, it's crazy to think about the fact that Darren was sentenced to five years in prison for that fourth DUI and he was released before the five years, because if he was not, he would be in prison until next year and Dustin would be alive today.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Which is extra disappointing looking at what we know about Darren and the types of offenses that he has committed. He has been very violent in the past. He has abused alcohol and hurt people because of it. It's devastating that he was released. Yeah, I think the justice system kind of failed in this case because, you know, when you look at people who have long criminal histories like this or long records, it's like, why are why, why are we giving these the opera, these people the opportunity to get out early? Why?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Well, actually, I want to play this little clip from his recent hearing where a prosecutor highlights other previous arrest charges for Darren, which spans across multiple states because we don't have access to these type of records, but here are at least some of them. Guilty conviction for battery on a police officer, burglary also found guilty at trial. He had multiple charges of aggravated assault on a peace officer, malicious harassment charge. He spent time in the Idaho State Penitentiary.
Starting point is 00:37:59 He's multiple DUIs across multiple states. So right now, Darren Abbey is behind bars at the Gallatin County jail in Bozeman, Montana, where he will wait before his hearing on November 15th. So that is a week after this episode comes out, and that is when he will enter his plea. So we were kind of thinking about waiting until after that to do this episode, but you know, there has been a lot of crucial information that we wanted to update since a lot of the stuff in episode one is now known to be incorrect.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So honestly, sadly, I don't see Darren pleading guilty next week at his hearing and explaining what he did. That's not historically what we see happen. Yeah, he does not seem like the type. But make sure that you guys are following us on social media for that update. And now finally, I want to play part of the recent press conference
Starting point is 00:38:51 from the Gallatin County Sheriff. It states everything that we have already explained, but we know a lot of you guys like hearing these types of clips, and there is a Q and A at the end. So here it is. So this press conference today, we're going to, I will have a few things to say. I'm going to invite Nate Cameron up, who is the captain of our detective division.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He'll have a brief statement and then I will finish off with a few words. So to start, thank you guys for being here. The sheriff's office is here to announce the arrest of Darren Christopher Abbey for the murder of Darren Christopher Abbey for the murder of Dustin Gersum. This murderer is a 41-year-old male who is currently living in the Basin, Montana area and working in the Big Sky area. I will no longer refer to him by his name as I don't want to give him any further notoriety
Starting point is 00:39:39 regarding this homicide. During the investigation, the detectives collected DNA from a beer can inside a Jerusalem's tent and sent it to the Montana State Crime Lab. The Montana State Crime Lab worked diligently to get us a match and on October 25th, they informed us they had a combined DNA index system or CODIS confirmation. These investigators worked all day to locate this individual and on October 26th, they learned he was in the Butte area. With the assistance of the Butte Civil Sheriff's Office and the Montana Department of Corrections, Probation, and Parole Officers, he was arrested leaving a local establishment. This individual
Starting point is 00:40:18 was interviewed by our detectives and the Montana Department of Justice DCI agent on October 29th. This individual confessed to the murder of Dustin Jersey. In order to understand what happened, I want to give a little background on what was learned during the course of the investigation. Dustin arrived in the Moose Creek area on Thursday the 10th of October and set up camp. This camp included a wall tent complete with wood stove, beds, lamps, and multiple other items. His girlfriend had to work on Friday, so his plan was to travel back to the valley Friday evening and pick her up so they could spend the weekend together. On Friday night, Dustin did not show up to pick up his girlfriend and she became worried.
Starting point is 00:41:01 On Saturday morning, she and a friend drove to the campsite and found Dustin deceased in the tent. By all accounts, this homicide appears to be a chance encounter. There does not appear to be any connection between our victim and our suspect. During the confession, we learned the suspect was looking for a place to camp on Thursday night and had planned on this particular site. As he approached the site he realized someone was staying there. He stated Dustin welcomed him to the campsite and offered him a beer. At some point this individual struck Dustin Dersim with a piece of solid wood, stabbed him in the neck with a
Starting point is 00:41:39 screwdriver, and ultimately hit him with the axe. The motives of this attack are still unknown, and the investigators will continue to piece together everything they can to build a better picture of the events that evening. This appears to be a heinous crime committed by an individual who had no regard for the life of Dustin Gerson.
Starting point is 00:42:00 This individual removed items from the camp site he believed had evidence that could tie him to the crime. He removed the items he had touched to include the cooler, the firearms, and the axe, and returned to the crime the following night and removed further items. This is the behavior of a guilty subject who thought they could get away with murder. With that, I will take some questions. So. You mentioned there, the the motive isn't clear yet. Is the suspect provided
Starting point is 00:42:31 information that he was welcomed into the camp and had a beer with the victim and then the suspect struck the victim? Is there any kind of rationale for why the suspect struck the victim? Is there any kind of rationale for why the suspect was like that? We have a bit of his story, but we don't really know what the true story is. The question is, do we really know what happened in this case? What caused this? And we have a story, we just don't know if it's accurate. So I'm not willing to share that until we know what's actually accurate. Is the suspect Butte, Big Sky, where did he kill him? So he was living kind of,
Starting point is 00:43:14 I don't want to say transient, but it was kind of in multiple different areas. He currently had a place in Basin, Montana, and was spending some time in Butte that night when he was arrested. He was employed up in the Big Sky area at different times as well. She was arrested in Butte. Where is he currently being held? The question is, he was arrested in Butte. Where is he currently being held? He was arrested in Butte. He was being held in Butte up until today and our plan is to have him transferred back to here as charges are filed. The press release said that you picked up on unrelated charges. What were those charges?
Starting point is 00:43:50 The question is about unrelated charges in the prior press release. He'd been picked up on a probation violation and that's what he's being held on. Last one, any specifics on what he was doing up in Big Sky where he was employed? What kind of work he was doing? Yeah, so he was in construction business. The question is what was he doing up in Big sky were ready to look what? What kind of work you doing? Yeah, so you were in construction business the question is what was he doing up in sky? Where was he employed? He wasn't he had I understand was a contractor But I don't have all the details that to exactly what he was doing at that time. They're good All right. Thank you Well, we'll see what happens in this case and can only hope that this monster gives Dustin's family some much needed answers, and why he so senselessly took their beloved brother, son, father, and friend far too soon.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Thank you so much everybody for listening to this episode of Going West. Yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Going West. Yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. Don't forget that that GoFundMe is going to be in the description of this episode, so if you want to help alongside us, please do. His family and his children could really use the help, so please do that. Absolutely, please check that out and thank you guys so much for listening to this update. We were so shocked the next day. Oh I couldn't believe it. Like we were like whoa whoa whoa whoa because honestly sometimes this stuff you never get answers you get answers years later like
Starting point is 00:45:15 we had no expectations so that was such a shock that they figured this out so quickly so honestly big props to the Gallatin County Sheriff's Department. I was just about to say that they did incredible work on this case. And now Dustin and his family will have some form of justice. And a monster is rightfully behind bars. But yeah, appreciate everybody tuning in for this and we will see you on Tuesday with a whole new episode.
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