Going West: True Crime - Haley Anderson // 417

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

In March of 2018, a 22-year-old nursing student in New York was found strangled to death in off-campus housing after her friends tracked her phone’s location. Police quickly determined the person they believed to be responsible for the crime, but then discovered that he had fled the country shortly after killing her. This is the story of Haley Anderson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What is going on true crime fans? I'm your host T and I'm your host Daphne and you're listening to going West Hello, everybody. Hope you're having a good day I stumbled upon this case online and I was just so shocked with the direction it went in so I knew we had to cover it. Yeah and this one is pretty recent and it takes place in New York State which I feel like we haven't been to in a minute on this show. Yeah so true and quick PSA before we begin there won't be an episode this Friday because it is Heath's

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Well, without further ado, this is episode 417 of going west. So let's get into it. I'm gonna be a good boy, I'm gonna be a good boy In March of 2018, a 22-year-old nursing student in New York was found strangled to death in someone else's house after her friends tracked her phone's location. Police quickly determined the person they believed to be responsible for the crime, but then discovered that he had fled the country shortly after killing her. This is the story of Hailey Anderson was born on May 9, 1995 to parents Karen and Gordon and was later joined by a younger sister named Maddie. Hailey grew up in Westbury, which is on Long Island, New York, located about 25 miles or 40 kilometers outside of Manhattan.

Haley is remembered for her melodic and infectious laugh and described by multiple sources as quote a beacon of joy. From a young age, her parents attest that she was fiercely independent and a total free spirit. Her mom, Karen, described her daughter as, a hippie with a huge heart. And recalled that Haley quote trusted everyone. She talked to everybody. Gordon Anderson, her dad said proudly that Haley was quote, a kind,

compassionate person who always saw the good in people adding quote, she was someone who would have made a huge difference in this world. Haley loved to laugh and made everyone she knew watch Friends with her, which she pretty much could quote every single line of. Now, as she was nearing the end of her time at W.T. Clark High School in her hometown of Westbury, Haley settled on studying nursing because her biggest goal in life was to help others. While she and her parents were touring colleges, her mom, Karen, took her to the State University

of New York at Binghampton, which is about three and a half hours upstate from their home on Long Island. And according to Karen, Hayley fell in love with the campus and was happy that she wouldn't be too far from home if she decided to study here. Which she did because Haley enrolled at SUNY Binghampton and during her junior year applied to the nursing program and was accepted. Her mom said proudly, quote, she thrived in that program and she loved it.

The fall of 2017 brought her final year at Binghampton. She was a straight A student throughout her college career and was gearing up to graduate from her program and take her nursing board exams. Haley had even lined up a job at Northwell Health, which is the largest provider of medical care in the state of New York, and her job placement happened to be on Long Island, so her family was thrilled that she would be coming back home. Though very busy with

her schoolwork and class load, Haley found time to work on campus at Jasmine's Brew & Bakery which is like this coffee shop and cafe. She was due to graduate in May of 2018 and would just need to pass her board exams in June to secure an upcoming position at Northwell Health Karen recalled quote Haley was just ready to start her independent life free from anything that was going to keep her attached to one area She wanted to have a career and really embrace the career and embrace the perks that come from having that salary and ability to travel Now her on-and-off again boyfriend who was also a student named Kevin Ocampo, said that Haley's ultimate dream was to live out of a camper van in California and just kind of

travel up and down the coast taking contracts as a travel nurse. Which was okay with Kevin because their relationship was not very serious. I mean they had dated for a long time in college and they really cared for each other, but they knew that they had to do what was best for themselves after school ended, and if that meant that they parted ways, that was okay. Especially because Hayley was so excited to travel and see what this next chapter had to offer her. But Kevin later stated that he loved her and thought that they might one day commit to each other long term. Well, Kevin wasn't the only person that Haley was seeing in college, because during

her sophomore year, she met another male student that she began casually dating. Orlando Tercero was a fellow nursing student in the program, so they already had a lot in common and just kind of bonded over their shared goals and course load. Orlando was a dual citizen of the United States and Nicaragua, having been born in Miami, Florida, but raised where his family was from, in Chinandega, Nicaragua. His father was a doctor and had passed away a few years prior, so Orlando wanted to go into the medical field to follow in his footsteps. And Haley and Orlando were friends for a while before the connection kind of turned romantic.

And in a period of being on the outs with Kevin, Haley started seeing Orlando casually. According to one of Haley's roommates, Michelle, quote, they hooked up in the past, but to her, it was pretty platonic and she didn't want to have anything serious. Like Haley, Orlando was known to be charming and social, as he was described as the life of the party

and though studious and responsible, he also loved to go out and drink with friends on the weekends. So one weekend, Hailey, Kevin, and Orlando all wound up at the same party and Hailey introduced the men to each other. And by the way, at this point, Kevin and Orlando, they don't really know that either one of them had a thing with Haley. She's not saying, oh yeah, this is my ex-boyfriend, like meet my new boyfriend. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I think especially because she was seeing them both kind of casually and they weren't serious. Even Kevin saying and they weren't serious, even Kevin saying that they weren't serious. Like Kevin wasn't like, oh yeah, Haley was my girlfriend. It was more casual than that, but they both really liked her and didn't want to have that competition, you know?

Sure. So while they were at this party, they kind of bonded over the fact, Kevin and Orlando did, that they were the only two people in the group who spoke Spanish. And Kevin actually even invited Orlando to join the fraternity that he was a part of, which Orlando did do. So all seemed to be well, they got along, there was no real problems at first. But that was kind of short lived because as Haley's

relationship with Orlando heated up and, you know and they were seeing each other more frequently, Kevin and the other fraternity brothers found out about the two of them being romantically linked. Again, although Hayley and Kevin were not officially together, his fraternity brothers kind of shunned Orlando for this, and they kicked him out of the group because Kevin and Hayley had been in each other's lives for a while at that point and it just felt like a conflict of interest for the brothers when

Kevin was their true friend here like they didn't have that same loyalty to Orlando and They knew that Kevin was hurt by this and saying oh Actually this guy that I just brought into our fraternity is Hooking up with the girl that I really like that I've been seeing and I'm not okay with that. And to be fair, Kevin also doesn't know when Hailey and Orlando started seeing each other. So maybe he's assuming like, oh, after I met Orlando, that's when they started seeing each other or whatever, you know?

Exactly. Well, Hailey's friends remember her feeling really bad about the way that things turned out and that Orlando also took it really hard, you know, being kind of let go from this fraternity and people being upset with him. And he was so upset that he even threatened to take his own life. But this just garnered him extra attention from Haley. Haley's friends remember eerie details of their early relationship, like Orlando doing drive-bys at her house

to make sure she wasn't having anybody else over, and that he would sometimes show up on her front porch to smoke a cigarette and keep tabs on her. Even as Haley attempted to keep their relationship casual, remember she didn't want anything serious with anybody, her friends and roommates described Orlando becoming a jealous possessive partner, attempting to just kind of monopolize her time and even control her. And Haley's friend Melanie says that she began to resent this behavior and that Orlando

was using it to his advantage to get more sympathy from her. Melanie recounted, quote, Sometimes he would show up on her doorstep uninvited and when asked to leave multiple times, he wouldn't. He had this way with his words where he would make a sob story out of his life. And the type of person Hailey was felt for those type of people because she just had such a kind heart. So yeah, he is really manipulating her good nature. Yeah, and he is coming on very strong here.

So in September of 2017, remember the beginning of Hailey's final year in college, things with Orlando took a turn for the worse on September 15th 2017 Orlando and his roommates hosted a party at their home, which was this spacious off-campus house Now according to the police report that was later filed about this incident Orlando confronted Haley at this party about continuing to see Kevin even after she had started dating him. The report read that Orlando quote, got very upset and was shouting at her, even with her

friends and party attendees as witnesses to this incident. Then clearly embarrassed and trying to cover his tracks, Orlando attempted to smooth things over with Haley by pouring them shots and mixed drinks. He then became so drunk that Hailey actually had to help him into bed before leaving with Kevin. So this just made things way worse and when she and her roommates returned home, she began receiving a slew of angry texts from Orlando. The next afternoon, Hailey and Kevin walked out of her house to discover that all four

of her tires on her 2001 Mercury Sable had been slashed, an inch long cut into each of them. Hailey took a video of the damage and posted it to Snapchat saying quote, welcome to my life. Well, in turn, Orlando posted on his Snapchat that his rear tires had been slashed as well. He then sent Haley a screenshot of a text that he sent to his roommates, asking if they had slashed his tires themselves as like some sort of joke. So basically this was Orlando's way of saying that he hadn't been the one to do it

and that the whole situation was funny. But Haley wasn't happy about what happened, obviously. Yeah, that's an expensive fix, like getting all four tires replaced, especially for a college student who just works at a cafe. Oh yeah, I mean, definitely agree here. So when Haley pressured the issue with him, Orlando continued to deny involvement,

but also advised her against filing a police report, citing that he didn't think that it was a good idea. Huh, wonder why. Yeah, um... It's definitely a good idea, I don't know what you're talking about. Well yeah, because he doesn't want to get caught for what he did. Exactly. But Haley was encouraged by her friends, family, and roommates to report this incident to the police,

which she did Actually incriminating Orlando as her only suspect and the only person with the motive to do such a thing And when police asked Orlando for his statement he told them quote I don't know who slashed my tires and did not give anyone permission to slash them. Whoever does. Whoever, yeah. Like, I don't think there's a person on this earth that asks for their, or gives permission to people to slash their tires. Yeah, go ahead, good with me.

No. Yeah. So, anyway, when it came time to press charges, Hayley refused, concerned that he would be kicked out of their nursing program. And it's so unnecessarily nice of her, like this guy is a creep, he violated her property, and she still doesn't want to cause trouble because she's so nice, even though he deserves to have that happen to him because he's being super inappropriate.

That's what I was gonna say. She just has such a big heart that she feels for this guy even though he's the one that's causing all this drama. Yeah, so sad. Well, and like you said, this wasn't a small thing, you know, this caused her vehicle over $600 worth of damage and was considered a felony act. Because according to New York State law, damage of over $250 is a felony and is punishable by up to four years in prison and obviously goes without saying that you know He wouldn't have been able to remain in school if she did press these charges Which she knew and she's kind of thinking oh, I don't want I don't want to be the cause of all that even though He's the cause of that. He's the one who did it, but she feels this guilt for

For punishing him for it right Her mother Karen later said sadly quote, she was very trusting and very loving. She didn't like conflict. She just wanted to help him and she thought that he was a friend. So ultimately Haley decided against legal action and instead kept her distance from Orlando for a while. But Orlando eventually wooed her enough

to let him back into her life. On the evening of Wednesday, March 7th, 2018, Haley and her roommates had a wine and game night, staying up late talking and laughing and playing games like Taboo, Pictionary, and Haley's favorite game, Quiplash, which Heath and I also love. That's such a fun game.

Love that game. Love it. But the next day, Hayley was nowhere to be found. And this really wasn't super alarming initially because her roommates came and went as usual and just assumed that she was sleeping off the late night in her room. However, she had also stopped answering any calls and texts,

which was very unusual for her. On the evening of Thursday, March 8th, so the next night, Josie, who was one of Haley's roommates and best friends, was reading her own poetry at a poetry slam, and Haley had promised to be there. But not only did Haley not show up, she continued to miss all calls and texts that were sent her way,

and never let Josie know that she wasn't gonna be able to make it. Meanwhile, as the girls led their own investigation, a few people in their friend group began to realize that both Haley and Orlando were missing. Yeah, so it wasn't just Haley at this point that was missing, it was also Orlando. Yeah, so it wasn't just Haley at this point that was missing, it was also Orlando.

Yeah, and knowing their history, apparently Orlando's roommate, Jesse, like kind of speculated at first that maybe they had gone off and eloped. I don't know why his mind would go there, maybe for Orlando, but he clearly didn't know Haley well because that's not something she would do. Yeah, and I'm just assuming that Orlando is probably talking up his relationship with Haley to his roommate saying,

Oh, like we're so in love and so poor Jesse's over here thinking, you know, maybe they went off and got married. Yeah, but that is not the case at all. And also nobody on Haley's side thought that this was the case because the next day on Friday, March 9th, 2018, both of their circles of family and friends became extremely worried about them and they were reported missing within an hour of each other. First to call the police was Orlando's sister who had received a concerning text from her brother and worried that he was going to hurt himself. The text read that he had done quote something bad and that he was a disgrace

to their family. So officers reported to Orlando's home, which was static, quiet and locked. And they noticed right away that his car was not present. Now, at the same time, Haley's friends and roommates were growing increasingly worried. So her friends were tracking her location via the Find My Friends app, which was thankfully still on and working and showed her exact current location. Haley's roommates, Michelle and Josie,

were able to track it back to Orlando's house on Oak Street, where he and multiple other college students lived. With the house locked and no one answering the door, the girls decided to forge ahead with their little investigation and break into Orlando's residence on the first floor of his home. And these are such good friends. Not only are they so worried about where Hailey is, but they're tracking her location

and they're going to this location and literally unlawfully entering a home to find her. Yeah, I can't say that I would know a lot of college students that would do that for their friend. They would probably just be like, well, I don't really know where she's at. I got other things going on.

I'm in college. Well well they went so far as to Josie boosting Michelle up and through a window and then Josie followed Michelle was the first to see Haley screaming to Josie to call 9-1-1 Call 911. After Michelle and Josie were able to get into Orlando's bedroom through a window, they were completely horrified at what they uncovered. Because there, in Orlando's room, was the body of their friend, 22-year-old Haley Anderson. She had been manually strangled to death and left on top of his bed. She was discovered by her roommates on Friday, March 9th, 2018, just before 1pm. It's believed that she was sleeping at the time that the murder occurred.

Police raced to the scene, but sadly, it was just too late to help Haley, and there was still no sign of Orlando. So here's his roommate, unsure of where he is, hypothesizing that he and Hailey had run off and eloped. Meanwhile, Hailey is like on the other side of the wall, deceased in Orlando's bed, and Orlando is just gone. Well, it's even more sad and horrifying because Hailey's parents and sister like didn't even know that she was missing before they got this news that she was murdered.

Because it all happened so quickly, it just felt unreal. Now, based on where and how she was found, investigators had an obvious culprit for Haley's murder, 22-year-old Orlando Tercero. Thankfully, his building was adorned with many security cameras, so detectives pored over these tapes, and they found that early in the morning of Thursday, March 8, 2018, after the game night with her roommates, Haley and Orlando could be seen heading inside together. So it seemed as if they had maybe spoken after playing the games and after her roommates went to bed

and then, you know, they agreed to meet up. Yeah, he probably convinced her to give him another chance and, you know, come over. Exactly, so Haley and Orlando walked inside at 3.14 a.m. on March 8th, and Haley would never leave that house again. However, Orlando was seen coming and going multiple times between then and when he was reported missing.

Well sometime after 10am on Thursday, March 8th, about 7 hours after Haley can be seen entering the home, Orlando was seen taking the trash out to the bin on the curb and then reversing out of the driveway in his car. Tracking his movements via his bank account, security cameras, and a store receipt, detectives discovered that he had visited a local CVS store purchasing Zequil, which is a sleeping aid similar to Nyquil, as well as melatonin supplements, which as many of us know, are used to help people sleep.

He then returned home and remained inside another seven hours. And that's really weird. Like, this is the day before her body is found, so we can assume that by the time he gets back, she's probably already dead. I can't see her staying in his house for this long, especially while he's out running errands.

Like, she's a busy college student, she has other stuff going on, she wasn't texting at all that day, which would not have been the case if she was just hanging out in his bedroom, you know? So, like, why did he go by Zequil and melatonin? Was it so he could get to sleep after the horrible things that he did? Like, what's that about? I mean, yeah, it's definitely possible that he was using this Z-Quil to get some sleep after, you know, murdering somebody, but it's also possible that he was going to use this Z-Quil in a combination with other drugs to take his own life, which we're going to talk about here in a sec, because I do know that some people have tried to use those sleeping aids to do So so true, but it is just so disturbing knowing that he was in his house for seven hours

And by that point she had likely already been dead for far more than that amount of time And she's just in his bed like oh my god It's so horrible to think about. Eerie and terrifying. Well that night so the same night that Haley was supposed to be heading to Josie's poetry slam Orlando can be seen leaving the house from the front door and walking around the side of the property where another door gave access to the basement. He retrieved a hammer and metal hooks and law enforcement believed that he was planning to hang himself.

Yeah, and inside his house they found the hooks very hastily screwed into a wooden beam with a silk tie knotted around it. Now the floor beneath the hooks was dotted with blood, which indicated that he had likely hurt himself in the process, but his injuries had not been enough to kill him. With his attempt being unsuccessful, he began slipping into a panic, and scroll down a note that may as well have been a confession, because written in Spanish, the note read, quote, I'm really sorry about this.

I never felt like I could be capable of doing this." In a comment directed toward his deceased father, he wrote quote, Poppy, I'll see you soon. So yeah, his attempt to take his own life didn't work and then you know he just decided well I guess I'm not going to try again I'm going to flee instead. Right, so he's kind of writing these notes probably, or he probably wrote these notes before his attempt, and these are his kind of sorry ways of apologizing for what he did and explaining where he's going now. But just before 8.30 p.m. on the evening of Thursday, March 8th, which again is the day before Haley's body is found.

Orlando loaded luggage into his car and drove about three and a half hours to John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City. He was seen there on security cameras in the airport, walking quickly with two rolling suitcases, wearing his glasses and sporting a head bandage which was likely from his suicide attempt. Imagine how weird that would look seeing this guy in the airport who's just got this

big old bandage on his head, like bloody bandage on his head and he's just wearing sunglasses. I'd be like what happened to that guy? I don't like seeing anybody in like a hoodie or sunglasses at the airport or anywhere like that or like a movie theater. Anything like that is just like, you are suspicious. Yeah, freaks me out. Definitely. Yeah. So authorities discovered that Orlando was originally bound for a flight to Miami, but he had missed it. So ultimately he departed the next morning around 8 a.m on Friday, March 9th bound for Nicaragua. So he took off about five hours before Haley's body was found, meaning he was

still on the flight when police were in his bedroom. Because the flight is minimum like eight and a half hours. Now when Orlando landed in Managua, Nicaragua just before 4 p.m. that afternoon, he was picked up by his mother and they made the two and a half hour drive to their home in Chinandega. And for those wondering, it's not known if she knew the extent of his crimes by this point or not, like if she knew that he had done something wrong or maybe if he just said, oh hey, I'm feeling homesick, I want to come visit you, like he could knew that he had done something wrong, or maybe if he just said, oh, hey, I'm feeling homesick. I want to come visit you. Like he could have said anything to her.

But Orlando did maintain his anonymity for a few days there, just laying low at his mom's house. But when his head wound proved to be too dire for him to deal with on his own, he was forced to seek medical attention at a hospital on Tuesday March 13th and received treatment for what were described as self-inflicted injuries. By then, word of his crimes had spread like wildfire in his home city of over 100,000

people, and the United States Department of Justice was aware that Orlando had fled to Nicaragua. So together with the Nicaraguan government, a warrant was issued for his arrest. And that same day on Tuesday, March 13th, 2018, after being treated for his injuries, Orlando was arrested at the hospital photographed in handcuffs with a bandaged head and a swollen lip alongside four members of the Nicaraguan National Police. The following day, Nicaraguan officials held a press conference announcing that Orlando had been located and detained. However, they had not yet announced what he would be charged with. First,

he was transferred to a prison in El Chipote, which is 80 miles or 130 kilometers Southwest of Chinandega. Now El Chipote, you guys might know about it. I didn't know about it before this, but it is apparently famous for its poor living conditions and extremely harsh treatment of its inmates, even labeled as inhumane by the United Nations and nicknamed the Guantanamo Bay of Central America. I have not heard of this place before, but oh my God,

it is incredibly harsh. Yeah. You want to know a little bit more? Yeah. Tell me a little bit more because it actually seems terrifying. Now, this is what a 2019 article said about it, quote, pulled nails electrical shocks to the testicles, skull breaking blows, kicks to the stomach, metal shards hidden in meals, asphyxiation using plastic bags, endless interrogation, cells without light or ventilation, crushed fingers, rapes, death threats, and more. Oh my God, that's insane. Yeah, it's basically a torture chamber.

And here is another quote from 2022. Those detained in the infamous El Chapote prison continue to suffer inhuman conditions with limited access to medical care, balanced diets or regular family contact. Man, so fleeing to Nicaragua was the worst decision that Orlando could have made. Yeah, like, oh boy, he is in for it. Yeah, well let's get back to Haley for a second. So on Sunday, March 18th, 2018, Haley's family celebrated her life in her hometown

of Westbury, when they should have been celebrating her graduation. Her dad, Gordon, delivered a heartfelt 40-minute speech to hundreds of mourners, and it was met with both laughter and sobs, commemorating a life well lived. He described packing up her room in Binghamton saying quote, a quick look about gave great insight into who she was and where she was going, like colors, dream catchers, collectibles, keepsakes from good times.

Try and keep that joy when you leave. Leave here with a smile and that warmth that comes with it. Because simply, that's what Haley would have wanted. The room spoke of happiness, dreams, aspirations, and joy. Over the window, straight ahead as you walked in, cut out of wood and painted purple, was the word love. A GoFundMe for funeral expenses raised over $50,000 to give her the burial her friends and family knew that she deserved. And this is what the last line of the GoFundMe said, quote, Any donations will be greatly appreciated and go directly to covering the cost of her

funeral expenses. There is nothing any of us can do now that can make this situation better or any easier to bear. All we can do is love and remember Haley for the genuine and amazing person that she was. All further proceeds will go to Haley's mother, Karen Anderson. Two months later, Haley's graduation day came, and her father Gordon walked on stage sporting a flower in her honor and accepted the degree on her behalf to cheers and a standing ovation from the audience.

That's so sweet. I love that he was able to be there and do that on her behalf. Meanwhile, investigators worked to get Orlando extradited to the United States, but neither country requires extradition from the other, so ultimately for reasons that they would not justify, Nicaraguan officials decided not to extradite Orlando, which was their prerogative as he was just as much of a citizen there as he was in the United States. To the dismay of her family, this stretched out the process of seeking a court date for over a year, while Orlando sat behind bars in El Chapote.

It wasn't until September of 2019 when Broome County District Attorney Steve Cornwell received a call from the Department of Justice. Nicaraguan authorities maintained their refusal to extradite Orlando to the United States, but they would try him in Nicaragua. Such a mistake to go there. Yeah.

Though it wasn't quite the outcome that they were looking for, Haley's family were extremely thankful that he would be held accountable for this crime. Well, Orlando was charged with femicide, which is defined as the murder of a woman or girl based on her gender. It's not a crime that is yet recognized by law in the United States, but its popularity is increasing due to the just outrage about the number of women who are at the receiving end of violent crimes all over the world. And we've talked about this in a bonus episode before when we've covered a couple cases from Mexico. Oh, we did. Yeah, I remember that. Femicide is a huge problem in Mexico,

and they are very aware of it. Their law recognizes femicide, so hopefully ours will as well. Orlando's friends and family were shocked and appalled at the allegations being leveled against him, with some stating outright that they didn't believe them to be true. Like they were like, there's no way that Orlando would do that. Okay. Yeah, a few of his peers from childhood came forward to like defend him in interviews when a team of CBS correspondents ventured down to Nicaragua to cover the trial. And according to them, Orlando was the best and most promising student in their class. And they believe that he was incapable of killing anyone.

Describing him as caring, respectful, and kind. I mean, killers come in all sizes, shapes, and forms. Yeah. So, this doesn't really mean anything. It just feels so disrespectful to Hailey too, because she was found in his room. There is camera footage of him coming in and out of his house. There's no way around it. There's a fucking suicide note.

Yeah, he wrote a note like, yeah, he fled the country. There's no way around it. He did it. So, you know, stop that. But from the United States, investigators had to do their best to prepare for a trial, which they could not attend or maintain. The prosecution requested all the evidence that they could muster which the prosecutors in Nicaragua gave them eight days to do. From the Broome County District Attorney's Office, key witnesses would

video conference down to Nicaragua to give their statements through a translator. On October 1st, 2019, Orlando Tercero's trial began. Karen testified on her daughter's behalf as the prosecution's first witness. She described Orlando as in love and even obsessed with her daughter, and that the warning signs were always there, including his increasingly alarming habit of showing up unannounced to keep tabs on Hailey, which of course all of her friends knew about. And then there's the tire slashing incident

that stemmed from pure jealousy of what Hailey and Kevin had. Josie testified as well, calling Orlando possessive to an uncomfortable degree. Throughout the trial, Orlando was described as smug and arrogant, reclining in his seat and smirking at the video display, which was a far cry from that meek and panicked young man who

had scrawled out that pitiful apology the night after Haley's murder. I mean, it's just insane to me that this guy is being so arrogant and cocky when he was literally about to take his life after he killed Haley and now he's just acting like an asshole. Yeah, now he's just smirking in court? Well, by Orlando's own account, he had woken up after a late night to find her lifeless body beside him. Uh huh.

Sure. His attorney, Eduardo Ruby, explained that he had blacked out after drinking too much and had no recollection of what happened that evening. That's such a great defense. Like, that's such a cop out. Yeah, it is. And they actually took it a step further because Eduardo went so far as to allege temporary insanity, saying that Hailey's death was a simple accident, a byproduct of heavy drinking and memory loss.

God, they're really digging here. That doesn't mean anything. It doesn't matter if you were drunk when you killed a person, you still killed a person. But the only witness called by the defense was a psychiatrist named Dr. Ronald Lopez Aguilar. Eduardo hoped that Dr. Aguilar would exonerate Orlando by proving that there were grounds for a plea of temporary insanity, but the doctor refused to play along and said plainly that after an evaluation of Orlando, there were no medical grounds to believe his explanation was truthful.

Judge Fabiola Batancourt offered the final word to Haley's family, in which Karen said through tears, quote, Haley was a beautiful, intelligent, and friendly girl. She was an aspiring nurse and had her whole life to look forward to. She was and still is my best friend, So thank you for listening and letting me speak on behalf of my daughter." Karen also spoke to Orlando in her closing statement saying quote, I hope that you get the highest amount of years behind bars because you deserve even more than that. The judge excused herself for only 90 minutes to deliberate. As juries are not a guarantee in the criminal

justice system in Nicaragua, and Orlando's fate rested in the hands of the judge only. When she returned, she pronounced Orlando Tercero guilty of femicide. Judge Batancourt handed down the maximum sentence of 30 years. She also denounced violence against women and commented what a shame it was to have lost Haley out of pure jealousy. Everyone in Haley's corner, including the detectives who investigated the case, the attorneys who prepared it, and her friends and family were relieved at this outcome. And there was a lot of disappointment that the trial was held in Nicaragua and not in the United States, because again, they couldn't be present and they,

they couldn't witness him being sentenced to prison. And this is what Haley's dad Gordon said about this, quote, when it first came to light that the trial wouldn't be here and not essentially have it in your hands, it made us doubt a little bit about what was going to happen. But the family wound up being exceedingly grateful for Judge Batencourt's influence in the courtroom, and that she desired to be a force for good in Haley's memory.

Steve Cornwell agreed saying, quote, we put our trust into the people over there. We put our trust into people that we've never met and did everything that we can do from being Hampton, New York, to make sure all the evidence was presented and provided. On February 4th, 2020, Orlando was back in the courtroom with the same defense attorney attempting to appeal his conviction. Eduardo again pushed for a

psychiatric evaluation to prove that there were grounds for an insanity plea, but this time it was denied. Thus his conviction was upheld. When asked if he would still attempt to try Orlando for the murder if he were to be extradited, Broome County District Attorney Michael Korchak reported that he would entertain it. Michael reported, quote, "'His defense attorney in New York State, as well as down in Nicaragua, would argue that double jeopardy attaches.

Our position is that it doesn't attach. It's a separate country and he could be tried here. But the decision obviously won't be made by me if he continues his 30 year sentence, but the family would be contacted and we would want their input on whether you would bring this guy back to the United States. Cause yeah, he is set to be released then by the time he is like 52 years old or so. Yeah.

And if he ever steps foot back in the United States or if they decide that they're Somehow going to extradite him back to the United States. He can be tried again. Yeah, absolutely So it could be more than 30 years, but I think they'll probably have to consider that in many years from now Haley's mom Karen is now pushing for femicide to be recognized legally in the United States She's also started volunteering for the rape and and Incest National Network on behalf of other female victims of domestic abuse and violence, just like her amazing daughter, Haley. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening to this episode of

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