Going West: True Crime - Susan Taraskiewicz // 116

Episode Date: April 14, 2021

In 1992, a 27-year old airport employee and aspiring cartoonist left work to grab she and her co-workers some food for their overnight shift- but she never returned. When her body was found days later... in the trunk of her car, it was clear she had been brutally murdered. The case went cold for over a year, but when her diary was discovered, disturbing accounts were unlocked. This is the story of Susan Taraskiewicz. *BONUS EPISODES* patreon.com/goingwestpodcast *CASE SOURCES* http://archive.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/09/13/mother_holds_hope_she_can_help_solve_daughters_killing/?page=2 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB858047455139400500 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/213048680/susan-taraskiewicz https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6ztve5/25_years_ago_airline_worker_su_taraskiewicz_was/ https://www.mass.gov/info-details/susan-taraskiewicz https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Su_Taraskiewicz https://unsolved.com/gallery/su-taraskiewicz/ https://www.insideedition.com/who-killed-su-taraskiewicz-28-years-on-her-mother-still-vows-to-get-justice-i-am-not-going-away Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is going on True Crime fans, I'm your host Heath, and I'm your other host, Daphne, and you're listening to Going West. Thank you so much everybody for being here with us today. We got a new bonus episode for all of our patrons. Heath tells about it. Yeah, we just released an episode about the case of Carrie Farver, which is really, really interesting. There's definitely some stalking going on in this case. There's a part in this episode where a little girl sees a ghost, but really it's a stalker in someone's home. So if that sounds interesting to you, which it sounds interesting to me,
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Starting point is 00:01:07 who listens to the show and everybody who reviews the show too. We still read those and we've gotten some really, really nice reviews lately. So thank you so much everybody for doing that. We appreciate all of you. All right, guys, I think we're ready to start this episode. This is episode 116 of Going West, so let's get into it. In 1992, a 27-year-old airport employee and aspiring cartoonist left work to grab she and her coer her some food for their overnight shift, but she never returned. When her body was found days later in the trunk of her own car, it was clear that she had been brutally murdered.
Starting point is 00:02:18 The case went cold for over a year, but when her diary was discovered, derving accounts were unlocked. This is the story of Susan Terascoitz. Susan Terascoitz, who went by Sue, was born on February 13, 1965, to parents Marlene and Ronald, along with her older sister Debra and younger brother, Ronnie Jr. She was raised in a pink ranch house in Saga's Massachusetts, which is a small working-class town in the greater Boston area in Essex County that's known to have a friendly and tight-knit community. Her father Ronald worked as a tractor-trailer salesman
Starting point is 00:03:06 while her mother Marlene worked as a supermarket produce clerk. Growing up, Susan was known to be very creative and when she began attending Saga's high school, very athletic, playing soccer and her big love, which was roller skating. After graduating in 1983, she went on to attend Salem State College, which is in, you guessed it, the beautiful Salem Massachusetts just a stone throw away from her hometown,
Starting point is 00:03:33 then she transferred to North Shore Community College, which was also close by, and then finally, Massachusetts College of Art and Design, known as Mass Art in Boston. The reason she headed off to art school was because she dreamed of becoming a cartoonist, and her favorite cartoon of all time was Snoopy. But she also wanted to be a firefighter and eventually received high marks on the firefighter placement exam, putting her eighth on the reserve list for the Swamp Scott Massachusetts fire department. So she was very motivated. She wanted to do a lot of stuff in her life and she was not wasting any time. So while she was going to college, she was still figuring out exactly what she wanted to
Starting point is 00:04:14 do. And she got herself a job at the Boston Logan International Airport. She began working for Northwest Airlines first in boarding and then she switched positions to cleaning the planes. Her favorite thing to do was to de-ice the planes, which is something that needs to be done to aircrafts when snow and ice is accumulated on the exterior. In the way that this is done is by getting into this big machine that sits you up level with the plane, and then you spray this chemical mixture on the aircraft itself.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So she loved doing that and really enjoyed her job in general. And even though a big part of her wanted to be a cartoonist, Susan really applied herself to her job at the airport and she tried to work her way up. Like I said, she was extremely hardworking and at one point in her 20s, she had attempted to get a promotion and felt that she was unfairly overlooked for the position since she was a woman So she fought within the company for three whole years until she won her case and received this promotion And then she became a ground crew supervisor and she was actually the first woman to hold this position in the history of the Logan Boston International Airport
Starting point is 00:05:22 So really I mean this is kind of a sign of the time. It's back in the 80s. There was a lot of fragile masculinity going around and a lot of misogyny in the workplace. And so it was very, very hard for a woman to be in a managerial position. Exactly. And as we kind of unfold this story,
Starting point is 00:05:39 you guys will see how that, what Heath was just saying, has such a big part to this actual story and how big of an issue it proved to be for Susan. So while Susan was working this job, she was living at home with her parents. And it worried her mom a great deal that she was doing such a tough job, like we said, especially as a woman in the late 80s and early 90s. But Susan took pride in her job and would always come home and tell her mom all about her day. One time even telling her mom that she had handled 100,000 bags that day alone.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So she never complained about it, she always just kind of came home and said, oh my god, my day, you know, kind of laughing about how many bags she had to handle. She got to meet a lot of people working that job for the five years she did, including a lot of actors that she loved and she even had this little autograph book that countless people signed over the years of her working at the airport, and she'd always excitedly kind of tell her folks about who she met. And not only did her work ethic make her great at this job, but she was known to be very friendly and she was very personable.
Starting point is 00:06:40 To give you a better idea of the type of person she was, she was the kind of gal who made Halloween costumes for the kids in the neighborhood and made Easter baskets for them and her friends. She was very creative and had talent for a lot of different things. Most of Susan Schiff's were overnight or on busy weekends, so she didn't always get to spend quality time with her family or friends, but she would still see her parents in passing and they always knew she was home based on whether or not her work clothes were in a laundry heap outside of her bedroom door. So in June of 1992, Susan's mother Marlene's 50th birthday came and their family of five got to celebrate altogether by heading down to a nice restaurant in Boston. At this time, Susan was 27 years old, and it was the last time Marlene and Ronald would get to spend quality time with Susan before something unthinkable
Starting point is 00:07:30 would happen. Three months after Marlene's birthday, on Saturday, September 12, 1992, Susan had a regular scheduled shift from 11pm to 7am. Marlene remembers that a few hours before she had to go to work, she seemed very impatient and kind of upset about something. That same day, she had some close friends come over to discuss wedding plans for her sister Deborah's upcoming nuptials, that was about five months later in February of 1993, but for some reason, she just wasn't really in a good mood. Susan's mom remembers that before her shift, she kept saying that she needed to get to work along with, quote, I know they're gonna give me a hard time but I gotta go do it. Then after 10pm, Susan left her family home in her work clothes and headed for the airport.
Starting point is 00:08:21 She clocked in as usual and around 1am, so 3 hours into her shift, Susan offered to go grab some sandwiches for her and her co-workers. With that, Susan got into her car and drove off, but she never returned to work. Weirdly enough, her co-workers that were supposedly waiting for their sandwiches never reported her missing or went out looking for her. But they did punch her time card out when her shift ended at 7am. And this is really bizarre to me because it's the middle of the night, so I know she was used to working overnight, but I feel like my initial thought as her coworker would be, was she tired and got into an accident?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Because she was a supervisor and was known to be very responsible, and actually cared about her job. So why would her co-workers not worry about her, and then just punch out her time card like nothing happened? Yeah, I mean, I could see if she was like an unreliable co-worker, and she had missed shifts on occasion or something like that, but I mean, she is the supervisor. And for her... And she's gonna go get you guys food, so you're waiting for your sandwiches at the very least. Right, I mean because it's not like oh you know I'm
Starting point is 00:09:28 gonna leave work and I gotta go do this other thing it's like hey I'm gonna leave work and go get you guys sandwiches I'll be right back sort of thing. Exactly. When that Sunday morning passed Marlene Taroskowitz didn't see a pile of laundry outside of her daughter's bedroom door indicating that she hadn't gotten home from her shift. She wasn't too worried about this, though, and just kind of figured that Susan had to work overtime and that she'd be home later. And again, Susan worked such odd hours, Marlene wasn't used to crossing past with Susan
Starting point is 00:09:56 every day, who was also 27 years old, so she carried on with her Sunday. One of Susan's co-workers was having a baby shower that day, and even though she was expected to be there, Susan didn't show up. But still, none of her co-workers reported her missing. The following day, Monday, September 14, 1992, so over 24 hours after Susan was last seen, her sister Debra called their mom Marlene at work to explain that one of Susan's co-workers had called her to tell her that Susan didn't show up for her Monday shift. And on top of that, none of the co-workers had seen her since her shift on Saturday night. Now that Marlene was talking to Debra about it, she became incredibly worried, because
Starting point is 00:10:41 she hadn't seen her daughter since before her shift on Saturday, so immediately Marlene left work and ran down to the Saga's police station to report her daughter missing. When she arrived and explained to the police that she believed her daughter to be missing under uncertain circumstances, the police told her something she never imagined would happen to her and her family. The police had found their daughter and she was dead. The Terasquitz family knew the local police since they lived there the whole lives,
Starting point is 00:11:10 so the chief of police who sat her down knew Susan and the family. He explained that on that same morning, a passerby had come across a car outside of an auto body shop in Rivier, Massachusetts, and noticed a pool of blood under the trunk of the car. Since this was obviously a very disturbing and concerning site, the person called the police. When they arrived, they opened the trunk to find 27-year-old Susan Terescuitz in the
Starting point is 00:11:40 trunk, beaten and stabbed to death. Susan was found inside of the trunk of her own Toyota, with the money for the sandwiches still on her, meaning that she hadn't picked them up before she had been murdered. The police were still in the process of positively ideing her body, which is why they hadn't called Marlene by the time she had come down to the station, even though she had stopped in not long after Susan's body was found anyway. As we said, she was found in Revere, which is the coastal town right next to Susan's hometown of Saga's, where she lived with her family. It's also just outside of Boston, so it's only minutes away from the airport where she worked, and the auto body shop where her car was at
Starting point is 00:12:20 was on Route 1A, for those who know the area and want more of an idea. In this state highway is the road leading directly to the Boston Logan Airport, so it would have likely been the road she took to grab sandwiches. Susan's family was obviously absolutely horrified when they found out what happened, and they just couldn't wrap their heads around why anyone would want to kill Susan since she was so incredibly well liked. The only thing they could think of as well well as the police, was that this was just a random act of violence and that she wasn't specifically targeted.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But what would the motive be, since she was found with money on her that likely was not a robbery gone wrong? Police didn't have any solid leads on this crime, and it being 1992. There really wasn't any DNA the investigators could work with, so this case just went cold for over a year. The Terasquitz family had to try to move on, which was near impossible to do. Susan's sister Debra's wedding occurred the year after Susan's murder, and to try to include Susan in the wedding photos, they had a portrait of Susan hung up behind them.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Susan's mom Marlene had a very difficult time going into her daughter's room, you know, it would just be too sad to see her massive Snoopy-Daw collection, along with everything else left by Susan, who was just going to work as usual that day, not knowing she was never going to return home again. But over a year after Susan's murder, in late 1993, the holidays were approaching, and Marlene wanted to grab something from Susan's room to kind of put out in the house,
Starting point is 00:13:53 so a piece of her could be a part of the various other decorations. But that's when she came upon Susan's diary. And after deciding to look inside, she learned some disturbing information. So, just a recap, it was now December of 1993, and Susan's case had gone cold. Everyone almost assumed it was just some kind of horrible random act of violence, a wrong place at the wrong time type of situation. But when Marlene came across her daughter's diary while looking for something in her
Starting point is 00:14:48 room, she decided to open it up and peek inside. But inside the diary, Marlene was horrified to find terrifying recounts of the sexual harassment that Susan faced at work. Marlene worried about Susan working at that job for many different reasons, but she didn't know her daughter had been dealing with anything this awful. In this diary, Susan documented multiple incidents of sexual harassment from her male co-workers, along with just general harassment for no reason at all. On one occasion, someone had smashed Susan's radio completely unprovoked in the
Starting point is 00:15:25 break room where a bunch of her coworkers were around to see it. And another time, someone left a graffiti drawing for her to see that was of a coffin with her name on it. And this was found inside of her locker at work, almost like some kind of daunting message or foreshadowing. And Marlene couldn't believe this because Susan had never been one to really gossip or share much of what was going on in her life personally. So when she seemed stressed or irritable, she wouldn't tell her parents why, and they didn't pry.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And as we know, on the night she was murdered, she was very irritable at home and her mom noticed this. And Susan just said she had to go to work. The only thing that Susan did mention about her job was that the men in her department didn't like having a woman as a supervisor and they gave her a hard time for it. For example, she would instruct her team to do certain things during their shifts and they would often disobey and then just kind of not carry through with the tasks, meaning that Susan would be the one to do it herself.
Starting point is 00:16:28 But Susan really loved what she did, so she put up with it. Her mom remembers Susan saying, I'm not gonna let them get to me. So she just wasn't gonna give in to their BS. But in this diary, it detailed situations that were much worse than her family had imagined. On the page where Susan wrote about the radio smashing incident, she also noted that she confronted the guy who smashed it, a 32-year-old man named Robert Bobby Brooks. And his response was, what's the matter?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Is your little punk boyfriend gonna beat me up? He's lucky I didn't kill him. In this boyfriend that Bobby's talking about was someone new that Susan was seeing who also worked at the airport. Previously, Susan and Bobby reportedly had a brief fling, and when Susan broke it off, before she became supervisor, he became irate. So you can only imagine how much angry or he became when he had to take orders from her on a daily basis Susan told her boyfriend about the radio incident to which he confronted Bobby about it and told him he had to buy Susan a new one and After this Susan and her boyfriend were met with more threats from Bobby around this same time the harassment against Susan got much worse
Starting point is 00:17:43 She would get anonymous threatening phone calls at all hours and even her car was vandalized, so someone had keyed her car and slashed her tires. Also her boyfriend's car was vandalized and then eventually her co-workers who kind of had her back, they got their cars vandalized too. Susan wrote about all these incidents in her diary, along with other graffiti that targeted her, and various other issues at work. A big issue with her work was that while these things were happening, the company usually told Susan things like, just let it go and don't let it bother you. And we know this because it was noted in her
Starting point is 00:18:20 diary as well. So it seems her job just really wasn't taking the harassment seriously at all. I mean nowadays stuff like that would never fly. I mean there's so much HR going on within big companies and corporations like this, those dudes would be fired in a heartbeat. Yeah this is such a devastating part of this story because she tried so hard to make the company realize that she was being treated poorly. And this is not something that anybody in the workplace or anywhere should have to deal with. Like, you should not have to go into your job and worry about being bullied. And so this wasn't out of line at all or tattle tally, you know, of Susan to go off and tell the company.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Because she should be able to come into the job she loves and get her work done in peace. Like there's no reason she should be messed with. Yeah, and it just, honestly, it just sounds like these guys are just all around shitheads and they're just sad that a woman is telling them what to do. Yeah, it's going to get a lot worse. After reading a few entries of Susan's journal, her mom Marlene took it to the investigators, hoping it would get the ball rolling on the case again. While investigators looked more into Susan's co-workers, the Tarasco-Witz family sued
Starting point is 00:19:30 Northwest Airlines, who merged with Delta in 2008 for sexual harassment, and nearly two years later, in 1995, a settlement was reached, and the family was given $75,000 as a payout, as well as $250,000 for Susan's reward fund. The family really wasn't after the money though. All they truly wanted were answers to this case and justice for Susan, because it was clear that Susan wasn't having her basic needs met at work, which was her safety, and that it could have cost her life if her murder was indeed attached to these incidents at work. And then came the thought that Susan was looked at as a snitch at work for kind of going
Starting point is 00:20:10 to hire up whenever anything like what was written in her diary came up. Which again, you're not a snitch for trying to make sure you don't get bullied at work. That's so stupid. Yeah, that's just a dumb thought. So okay, so the reason why this is brought up is because one year before Susan's murder, several of her co-workers at Northwest Airlines were caught and convicted of running a credit card theft ring, where they would steal credit cards in various logages. This ring included at least 37 people, 10 of which were bag handlers in Susan's department, and they netted over
Starting point is 00:20:46 $7 million, which is insane, that's a shit ton of money. Yeah, that's a lot of money to steal from people's credit cards. So when all the news broke on this, Susan's family was shocked and asked her if she knew anything about it, and Susan stated that she didn't at all and she wasn't a part of it either. Some of the harassers that were named in Susan's diaries, no shock here because their shitty people were a part of this con. And as it turns out, the ringleader of this whole scheme was a 32 year old man named Joseph
Starting point is 00:21:18 Nuzo who had been working with Northwest Airlines for a few years at that point. So let's talk about this guy. Joseph Nuzo had a long standing issue with Susan. In April of 1989, three and a half years before the murder, and over a couple years before Susan was even supervisor, Joseph Nuzo got into a fist fight at work with a couple other employees. Susan saw this happen and she tried to break up the fight before anything bad happened and anyone did anything that they would regret. Which angered Joseph. So he called her a slur and the company got involved. And after this, Joseph Nuzo was suspended
Starting point is 00:21:56 from work for six months without pay. He very openly blamed Susan and during his suspension he vandalized Susan's car as well as her boyfriends and made all those threatening phone calls to her and it was after Joseph News-O returned to work six months later in early 1990 that he and some of his co-workers started this credit card ring and another main player was none other than Bobby Brooks Who again was the main worker who harassed Susan. And Bobby had pointed out to Joseph News0 that Susan was a rat, and he was worried that she was the one who told investigators about the credit card ring. This, however, was actually completely false. She had nothing to do with the investigation, and she wasn't even asked to be a part of
Starting point is 00:22:42 it because none of it had anything to do with her. In 1991, an interagency task force looked into the credit card scheme themselves and launched a full investigation. One month before Susan's murder, in August of 1992, Joseph Newsow was officially fired from the airline and became the main target of this grand jury investigation. Just days before Susan's murder, Joseph Newsow had talked to his friends about how serious the investigation was, and how furious he was that someone snitched on their operation, and he told them that he believed it was Susan who had done so. In August of 1992, when the height of the credit card scheme investigation was occurring, which again was just weeks
Starting point is 00:23:30 before Susan's murder, Bobby Brooks applied for reassignment and he was quickly transferred to another job in Minneapolis, Minnesota on August 25. And as a reminder, Susan's murder occurred in the early morning hours of September 13th. Now, you may be asking if Bobby Brooks was ever questioned in Susan's murder, and the answer is yes. But since investigators want to wear of all the harassment that Susan endured at the hands of Bobby and Joseph Newsho for that matter, he wasn't heavily pursued.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But he did endure an hour-long interview where he essentially just downplayed his relationship with Joseph Newsow and gave an alibi for the night of the murder. His excuse was that he was working until 11pm handling luggage at the Minneapolis St. Paul Airport on the night of September 12th. So he said his shift ended roughly two hours before Susan was likely murdered. And for reference, Minneapolis is a 20-hour drive from Boston in a three-hour flight, so him being directly involved in the murder appeared pretty unlikely.
Starting point is 00:24:32 However, after the diary came out, investigators looked into this and discovered that Bobby wasn't even working that night. And although in his interview with police in 1992, he said he hadn't been in contact with Joseph Nuzo the weekend the murder occurred, phone records proved otherwise. Uh oh. Investigators found that Bobby and Joseph had indeed spoken on the phone that very night, meaning it was entirely possible
Starting point is 00:25:00 that Bobby had been embossed in that night. And he and Joseph Nuzow got rid of Susan because they thought she had told investigators about their credit card scheme. And apparently around 1am, so right before she was going to leave to get the sandwiches, Susan received a phone call from someone who wanted to meet her. But none of her coworkers are said to know who that person was, just that it seemed like it was maybe someone she trusted. In 1994, Bobby Brooks' testimony actually helped convict Joseph Newsow on various charges regarding the credit card scheme, but Bobby himself pled guilty to conspiracy to commit
Starting point is 00:25:38 male theft and credit card fraud. Because Bobby helped prove Joseph Newso's role in the scheme, he was rewarded and didn't serve time for his role and was merely put on probation, whereas Joseph Nuzo was sentenced to three years in prison. So this case is still unsolved. So much of the information that investigators have has not been released, including any information
Starting point is 00:26:02 regarding the questioning of Susan's other co-workers, as well as Joseph Newsow. What we do know is that in 1996, a Boston Grand jury looked into Susan's death, and this is when investigators looked into Bobby Brooks' original alibi for the night of the murder and discovered that he had been lying. Bobby reiterated that Joseph Newsow blamed Susan for his suspension from work, remember the six-month suspension, as well as for blowing the whistle about the fraud case, which again was not true. And when it was proved by time card records and long distance
Starting point is 00:26:37 phone records that Bobby lied both under oath, and during his interview with police in 1992 about Susan's murder, he explained that he didn't intentionally lie and he just misremember details. However, because of these lies, he faced three counts of perjury. In 1998, he was sentenced to 15 months in prison for obstruction of justice in her murder. Bobby Brooks's lawyer stated, there's nothing that even remotely ties the murder to anybody at Northwest.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And yes, technically this is true. Considering there's no real physical evidence in this case, it really can't even be tied to anyone. So all we have here is circumstantial evidence. But if you ask me, it's some pretty good circumstantial evidence. But Susan's family's lawyer stated, there's a striking overlap between the sexual harassment case and the credit card ring. And those are two avenues clearly through which the murder investigation
Starting point is 00:27:37 has to be viewed. And regarding this, Marlene has stated, I just know, I truly feel that someone over at Northwest knows about Su's murder. I believe Su's in probably knew who did it. More evidence of harassment surrounding Su's in has since been uncovered by detectives, including a large drawing inside a luggage hold of Su's in naked with her legs spread, graffiti at the Boston Logan International Airport men's bathroom that is supposed to be Susan performing oral sex, and multiple graffiti slurs directly about Susan, including, pardon my French, slut, bitch, and whore,
Starting point is 00:28:17 written on her locker. And it was also known that the break room for Susan's team was described as a hell zone with with like centerfolds of naked women on the employee fridge, and copies of Hustler magazine and Playboy magazine on the tables, and in other reports made by fellow co-workers, some of the male co-workers under Susan were known to be involved in such incidents including exposing themselves, rubbing their genitals on a co-worker's sandwich, and urinating in another employee's coffee thermos. And these were the men that were on Susan's team. These were the men that were known to harass her,
Starting point is 00:28:55 which is terrifying and disgusting and horrible and it just goes to show you what she dealt with, and why she told the company about the harassment she was dealing with because these are the dudes that were harassing her. It's just so sad that this company really didn't take anything that she said seriously, but she definitely deserved much better than these asshole co-workers. I agree, and I feel like the person who murdered Susan was, without a doubt, in my mind, someone who had previously worked with her or someone who is still working at Northwest Airlines.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I think it seems pretty obvious that Joseph Newsow and likely Bobby Brooks as well, are behind this, especially since Bobby lied that he was at work, and said that he and Joseph weren't even friends, yet they spoke the night that Susan was murdered. And I also know that Susan worked with some really shady people. I mean, obviously, since 10 people on Susan's team alone were part of this massive credit card scandal, so there could have been others involved as well, or at least someone still working at the airport who could tip Joseph and or Bobby off about when Susan was working and that she was leaving to go at sandwiches, unless Bobby or Joseph were the one to call her at 1am, I mean I just don't know and
Starting point is 00:30:12 they never figured that out. But a big reason I think Joseph is the one behind Susan's murder versus Bobby being the main suspect is because of what Bobby did to help investigators nail Joseph Nuzo in the credit card fraud case. Like, I just don't see him doing that if he was the one to actually murder Susan. I think he may have helped, but I have a feeling the murder itself has Joseph's name written all over it. He didn't want to be pinned for, you know, the big hit. So, he said, you know what? I'll work with you guys so that I can get, you know, a lesser sentence, which was just the probation.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I don't think that makes him a good person at all. I still think he's a shitty person. Oh, he's a total shitbag. Yeah, so to me, that doesn't say whether or not he murdered Susan or not. I just, you know, I don't mean because he's a good dude. So he didn't do it. I mean, like, if he had been the one to kill Susan
Starting point is 00:31:04 and Joseph knew about it, Joseph could have easily turned around and said, oh yeah, you're saying I'm the ringleader, well guess what, you murdered Susan. Right, right, I do see what you're saying there. But I mean, I don't know, either is possible. Anything is possible, but I really think it had to be either one of them,
Starting point is 00:31:19 both of them are a coworker. Susan's funeral was held shortly after her body was found at a local church in Saga's Massachusetts, where her family and friends paid their respects. And shortly thereafter, she was buried at Woodland Cemetery. About seven months before Susan's death, she was able to meet Charles Schultz, who is the cartoonist behind Charlie Brown and the peanuts. So of course Snoopy II, who remember was Susan's favorite. And he actually drew Snoopy on her gravestones. So that was a pretty amazing thing of him to do.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah, I thought that was really, really sweet. When I read that, we posted photos of her all of our socials and we have one photo of her with like a giant Snoopy guy like in a costume. So he was definitely her favorite. So that would have meant a lot to her. Yeah, absolutely. Very cool thing. And Susan's poor mother Marlene who is still alive today has endured so much loss. So Susan passed in 1992 at the age of 27 as we know. Then her younger brother and Marlene's only son Ronnie Jr. passed at the age of 35 in 2007. And then four
Starting point is 00:32:28 years later in 2011, Marlene's long-time husband and father of her children, Ronald, passed away at the age of 69. She's such a sweet lady and we also posted a photo of her from a few years ago after she did an interview with the Boston Globe, and she said, I will get justice for Susan. Susan wasn't perfect, but she was a loving and very giving girl. She would do anything for you. The only thing Susan wanted was to be a supervisor on the ramp to help people who traveled.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I know there are people out there who know about Susan's murder. I know that Susan's murder can and will be solved. I want to bring peace to my family and all of her friends. As long as my health holds, I will be out there fighting for Susan. If you have any information about this case, please call the Massachusetts State Police at 617-727-8817. And according to the internet, Joseph Nuzo is still alive and in his 60s and I think is living in Peabody, Massachusetts, so he remained in the area after he got out of prison in
Starting point is 00:33:42 1998. And Susan's family also lives in that area so you can only imagine how they feel about it all, and how hard it is knowing that someone has gotten away with Susan's murder for almost 29 years. Thank you so much everybody for listening to this episode of Going West. Yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode, and next week we'll have an all new case for you guys to dive into. This is such a tragic story and it's also really so sad to watch interviews of her mom who didn't interview most recently last September, I think, in 2020.
Starting point is 00:34:14 She is still really wanting answers, so please share this case, tell your friends about it, someone's gotta know something. Yeah, definitely. I feel like this case is so solvable. I mean, you almost know who who you know did the deed and I think that that person needs to be brought to justice. Completely agree. So thank you guys so much for tuning in today and thank you so much to all of our patrons this past week who have joined our Patreon. So we're recording this episode a little
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