Good Guys - A Message for the Haters

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Mazel morons! Your boys are back- mic flags off, baby monitors on, and the haters firmly in their sights. Today, Ben celebrates Ruby’s elite sleep schedule (eight to four, four to eight!), while Josh explains why his household is running on fumes and toddler chaos. We swap parenting war stories, plan a groovy Bar Mitzvah, and reflect on the fine line between jealousy and celebration. We also pay tribute to the late Hulk Hogan (RIP? maybe?), spiral into a legal deep dive about Gawker, and call out a few unhinged internet trolls in a new, possibly short-lived segment: “Hi Haters.” Plus, we break down the ethics of location sharing in relationships, debate whether gazpacho is soup , and shout out the franchise heroes behind every great Dunkin’ Donuts. You better leave us five-stars- otherwise… what are you nuts? Leave us a voicemail here! Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: Start earning points on rent you're already paying for by going to joinbilt.com/GOODGUYS Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order of their new recipe. Go to hero.co and use code GOODGUYS at checkout. Kickstart your health today by visiting ProlonLife.com/goodguys to claim your 15 percent discount and your bonus gift. Fatty15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help you live healthier, longer. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/GOODGUYS and using code GOODGUYS at checkout.  If you're ready to build your own business - whether it's merch, products, or the next best idea - get on Shopify.com/goodguys and make it happen! Visit www.sleep.me/GoodGuys to get 20% off your Chilipad with code goodguys. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're just so good, good, good guys. I'mazam morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with your favorite Jewish camp counselor. It's Ben Safer. Shalom, Chavarim. Shalom, chavarerim. Shalom.

Shalom. Leitrahrahot. Shalom. Shalom. For everybody that doesn't know, that just means, hello, campers. And we'll see you later. Hello, my friends.

Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. Things are great, Josh. things are great over here. Things are great. We're sleeping good. I'm not trying to brag. I'm just telling you, Josh, that Ruby is sleeping like a rock. The man is going eight to four and then four to eight.

Dude, Mazel, you're so lucky. I've never had a kid like that. By the way, Jackie is literally like looking at us. She's like, I don't understand. Like her kids were not like that either. She's like, I don't understand how he's doing this. Eight to four, four to eight. That's it.

He's just like, he's just like, he's, just unbelievable. That's huge. B.H. Real quick. Sorry to cut you guys off. I'm just Mike Flag. I just noticed. Oh, okay. No worries. We can we'll give him one episode. We'll give him one episode. It's fine. We'll keep it going.

It's okay, Josh. We'll just charge him on the back end. It's cool. No, we're leaving all this in because here's the truth of the matter, right? DM, Dear Media, we love you. We're company guys. Yeah, we talk a lot of crap. You know, Michael and Lauren, they They think I make fun of them. And I do. But the truth is, it's because you're so freaking attractive.

They're rich, rich, rich, rich. And that's how I show love. Hating is not only my love language, but it's also my hate language. It's a mix of both. There's a fine line. There's a fine line. I'm aggressively jealous of these two. And I love working for them.

Thank you, bosses. Thank you bosses. Thank you. What were we talking about? Thanks, Josh. You have an elite child in the great rooster, my Russian rubble, my Ruben. I do. That's unbelievable.

Congrats. I'm in the opposite boat. And we were, and I want to get to that, but also we thought of a good bar mitzvah theme for him. Groovin with roving. It's 70 themed to dance party. We're getting groovy with roovy. You can just say groovy. Or grooving.

Oh, that's so good. Oh, my God. Grooven. Come groove with us. I'm going to throw up. Honestly, I'm going to throw up. I'm not waiting until his barbam. I'm launching a 70s-themed brand now called Grooven.

I can see the invite now. His proud parents, Ben Sofer and Claudia Oshry. Shepnachis for Groven. Grooven. By the way, it can also be a product at Home Depot for grooves called the grooving. You like that? An appliance? Yes.

Great. Now tell me. Now tell me why our beautiful Meyer, he's not sleeping, no good. Is that way you're having a coffee? Myers, great. A big surprise was my middle child is not happy. Oh. Okay, all right.

Well, let's talk about it. But the age that Meyer is great. What's wrong with Shy? What's going on? Shy's amazing. But I think we, you know, we didn't, when Shy was born, Max was almost four. And Max, what you will learn too, and my buddy Luca has sort of walked me through this thus far. He's like, you think you know that you have different kids, but you don't know that you have different kids until it comes to disciplining,

talking to them, reasoning with them. And with one, you can come in with sweets and kisses. And the other one, you have to come in with a little bit more of like a tough tone. And so whereas Max was more stoic and just, you know, a quick listener understood, was a little bit more like emotionally fragile. So everything, he just got it. Shy's a fighter. He's got that fight.

Fighter, fighter, fighter. He's two. He's two and a half. He's also incredibly young. And so this is totally rustling his feathers. He'll be three in October. Yeah. So this age, I see it.

I have a lot of friends that have kids this exact age. And the common theme is they are terrorists. Terrorists. I'm not saying the shy is like that. Sadly, I haven't spent enough time because you don't bring it to New York. But they then grow out of it quickly. And like the terrible twos apparently are just a real thing. Like they just like walk all over you.

And maybe it's not. Every kid. Maybe Max didn't do that, right? But that's what I keep seeing and hearing that these two-year-olds are bossy. Yeah, I mean, obviously you hear about the terrible twos and three-nagers, which makes me want to punch myself in the private. Ew! I know. Three-nature.

Well, go write a baby book. Who came up with that three-nager? Go start a substack, loser. Fucking, fucking loser. But what you do read is that when you have these big changes in their lives, school, changing of a bedroom, a new sibling arriving, it can just totally rock their reality, their customs, and now their routine. And so we kind of, over the last two months, have done all three to the poor boy. And so he is just like, and where we've tried to like say, like, listen, we're sticking with the plan. you have slept in your bed for the last two years and 10 months and we're not going to like

start changing it up now. He will, you know, whereas Max would give a fight for 20 minutes and then relent, Shai's like, give me two hours. I'll keep going. These vocal chords, they're strong. I won't be losing this one. So he wants to sleep in the bed with you. That's the new thing?

He doesn't want to sleep. He just, yeah, he basically doesn't. And it's normal. There's a separation anxiety, but he just doesn't want to sleep at all. I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie. I feel like I was still occasionally coming into my parents' bedroom at like seven. I didn't like it. I didn't like eight.

Yeah. Like I think, look, we're their best friends, right? Like, where are their comfort centers. So like, it makes sense. It doesn't mean that it's pleasant. Is he doing that immediate? Like, he's never going to bed or he's waking up in the middle of the night and then running into your bed.

It's a huge 180, right? Because it went from like a kid who we had a beautiful routine. We'd start winding down at 6.30, bath, reading, you know, bottle, songs, prayer. The whole thing was one short Hallmark movie. It's gorgeous. I love it. Just the way you said songs, prayer. Songs and prayer, babe.

That's the foundation of a great home. singing and praying, praying and singing. Benny and Joshi, singing and praying. Benny and Joshi, praying for song. Benny and Joshi, adoration of the Lord. Benny and Joshi, La Jai and Baruch Hashem. Yich. And also in your name we pray.

Shout out my wife. Your name we pray. It's so funny because I know she feels this way with my Jewish ass prayers. But when we throw in a Gai'asha prayer, when we throw in a nice Gentile prayer, I go, Oh, look at me. I'm like the president here. They're nice. A nice gentile prayer is nice.

They're straight to the point. A good our father? Beautiful. Fantastic. Excellent. I have no issues. You can't pray too much. I know.

I've no issues. I've no issues. I throw in an Allah Akbar here and there. Why not? You should. You should absolutely do it. Absolutely do it. By the way, do you know this UFC fighter?

I think his name is Bryce. I know Bryce Mitchell. Bryce Hall is the TikToker, right? Bryce Hall's the TikToker I don't know this MMA guy So there's this MMA fighter named Bryce Mitchell who I'm not here to rag on him He did see some wild ass things about the Jewish people

And that's that's this guy That's this guy the one that Portnoy like came out Like saying he's a fucking loser That's this guy right? Yes Okay cool yeah I don't know you but I know what you fucking did You 100% know there's this great clip

Of this Russian guy interviewing him Like he's doing a press conference And so there's these Russians interviewing him. And obviously, MMA is huge in Russia and Arabic-speaking countries and so many different places

and the eastern block and parts of that world. And so this Russian guy is like, Bryce, I was wondering and he's like, you know, just like the thickest typical Russian accent. And Bryce Mitchell goes,

well, first I want to say, Shukrown, hab, baby. He's so good, dude. Oh, my God, said that to me. That's hysterical. What a fool. What a fool. And the interviewer's like, I'm Russian.

He goes, well, al-Alam al-a-lake. I'm like, I'm like, dog. I mean, respect to you. I just think you might not be quite, quite hitting it on the nose there. That's so funny. Some people really just should not try accents. Sorry. Like, or some people should try, shouldn't try saying things that require an accent.

You can't. You can't do it. If you have that deep of an accent, you just can't say it. You can't. It was fascinating. I'm like, you're speaking Arabic to a Russian man, but I appreciate the attempt. So funny. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Built Rewards.

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The Hulkster, Mr. Hogan. Happens. Happens in threes. It happens in threes. And cardiac arrest 71 years old. Sad, Josh. Think it had anything to do with all the shit he was injecting into himself. You think I was hopped up, up, up.

And all of a sudden he's hopped down, down, down late to rest. Terry, that's the Hulk's name, Terry. Terry. Behind, you know, behind every Hulk Hogan, there's a Terry. Talk about Terry, Josh. Talk about Hulk Hogan. Talk about who did you do this for once before? Richard Simmons.

The great Richard Simmons. I'd like you to talk about the great, I'd like you to memorialize. Give us a nice Oscar-worthy in-memorium for Hulk Hogan. You know, when a white guy can pull off a do-rack, you say, it's somebody special. So true. That one broke me. I'm sorry, that one broke. It's so true. It's so true. He lived his life. He lived his life in a do. He did. God bless him. He looked his age since he was 25. He's looked like this for 50 years.

And yeah, I mean, he's a pretty spectacular fellow, not without his peccadilloes, not without his flaws, but what he did for wrestling. What I find is the most interesting sort of most recent chapter in his life was how he took down the head of Gawker with this whole. Do you, are you familiar with this? Not really. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. So they're making a movie about it.

But my friend, Ryan Holiday, actually wrote the book called Conspiracy. basically there was a website called Gawker which was like the meanest version you could imagine of like some people might laugh at this but it was like truly TMZ with no ethics right it was it doesn't

like Reddit yeah we'll report a rumor yeah understood doesn't need to be substantiated in any way and it was especially around the tech world so billionaire VC investor Peter Thiel at the time in the late 2000s, they put out a story basically saying Peter Teal is gay, why won't he come out?

And at this time, Peter Teal was not out and it was deeply unacceptable for anyone to push anyone to come out, especially to do it in this huge public forum, but in any version, right? That was completely, you know, Peter Teal's journey and right to decide. And when they put this out, the head of Gawker was a guy. named Nick Denton, who was this British guy, who basically just felt like this is what we're going to do, and the website became super popular, blah, blah, blah. So Peter Thiel played this incredibly long game where he said, one day I'm going to get him. It's not now, but I'm going to find it. Cut two, and this is the fun part. This is a fun story, even though forgive me,

it's long. So Hulk Hogan has a buddy named Bubba the Love Sponge. Who does it? Need that. A shock-joc-esque-esque radio hosts in the great Tampa Bay area. Say less, I know. So. Shut up. Terry and Bubba, they're thick as thieves. They're wearing their do-rags and their oaklies.

They're going out on the town, eating sampler platters, really living it up. Hulk, well, he's having a hard time at home. Who is it? You know what I'm saying? These things happen. And one day, Bubba says, you know, Hulk, it would be an honor for you to sleep with my wife. Please.

Will you do me this blessing? So the great hulkster, he obliges his friend Bubba the love's and he has sex with Bubba's wife.

Now, what Bubba doesn't tell him is that he happens to have a camera in his bedroom. And he's filming said act. Somehow this video gets leaked. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Somehow.

You sure it wasn't Bubba. Couldn't have been. Couldn't have been the guy who filmed it. Impossible. Someone in Bubba's camp, I don't know. Bubba's got a lot. Bubba's got a big entourage. Okay.

So look, these things happen. You're sleeping with your friend's wife. It gets filmed. The tape leaks. It's a tale of all this time. I feel like that's something that would happen to kid David. Would you agree? 100%.

It's in his future. It's happening. Shout out. The great kid, David. Love you. So Gawker, back to Gawker, they run the story. In fact, they show the video. Oh, God.

Now, what you would say is, well, you were filmed, hooking up with someone, that's just your bad luck. But, of course, in a bedroom, there is an expectation of privacy, of privacy. And he was being illegally. filmed, even though it was, you know, not the coolest act in theory. Regardless, it was illegal for them to post it. And so they sent a cease and desist. They refused to take the video down. And Peter Thiel said, this is the moment. So Peter Thiel quietly reaches out and says,

I'm going to be your benefactor, Mr. Terry, Mr. Hulk Hogan. You are going to go. And of course, he did this through intermediaries. We are going to go take Gawker down now. This is going to sink them. And they proceeded to, Terry put on his most judicious du rag and went into a courtroom in Tampa, Florida. And I think they sued Gawker for a hundred and got $150 million in damages. They won the case and Gawker is no longer. Wow. How'd I miss this? I definitely remember the lawsuit, but I missed the whole fun story. And that was a wonderful story told. So on behalf of everybody listening, that was a great synopsis. All right, so rest in peace, Hulk Hogan, king in many regards.

Ozzy, Ozzy gone. Oh, yeah, I totally forgot. I was thinking to myself, who were the three? Yeah, rest in peace, Ozzy. Good man. Crazy. That's how to go. What's your fucking?

What's your fucking show, mate? Two Jews, bick and tall Who kind of fucking lyrics to them? He sound like Ron Weasley Oh, Sharon This is down fire Oh, oh, Sharon Oh,

Put some sugar in your tea, Sharon. Sharon Osborne is fun I spent one afternoon with her for a charity event And she is fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, And we were eating brownies together. She was fun. She's a great lady. You have to be a fun, great lady to be married to that man for as long as she was married to him and stuck by him through his debauchrous acts.

Guy, though, is a legend. What a legend. And what, he performed. I read something he, like, just performed, like, a couple weeks ago. Like a week ago, a final, a farewell tour, a week before he passed. God. Talk about leaving it all out there. And who is the third?

It comes in threes. Who else died? Malcolm Jamal Warner, sadly, from the Cosby Show. I don't know if you're familiar, but he was Theo. Theo, of course. Of course. Yeah. How old was he young, you know?

Mid-50s, he died in a riptide in Costa Rica in the ocean. Oh, God. That's a horrible way to die. So for our listener's safety, the great Ben, I ask you, I bet you do know. How, if you find you are caught in a riptide, how do you, proceed to get out of said riptide. That's an excellent question. I would assume that you do not assume.

You do not fight the current. Smart. You let the current take you where the current is going to take you. And the current will eventually take you somewhere that is less riptide. You don't fight against it. You swim with it. And I believe you swim as low as you can. You don't go high.

So I would go under and with until I reached somewhere safe. Correct? Half correct. Okay. Yes, one of your options is let it take you out. It's going to win. Save all your energy and try not to panic and just let it take you and float out. Even if it takes you hundreds of yards out, eventually once you're out of the riptide, the wave patterns will get you back, assuming you're a strong enough swimer to swim, you know, a good amount back. I just got to say, very strong swimmer over here. I don't know if we spoke about this, but I believe you are. was a lifeguard. I was. Pooler beach. I never actually made it to the pool because I was too fat, but I was lifeguard certified. I could have been. Okay. I could have been. I had the training.

I was ready to go. But it's just like, maybe this was just like me like projecting my insecurities into the lifeguard community. But like you see this like snatched tan red bathing suit. Me pale fat red bathing suit. That said, I could do the job. I could do the job. At fat camp, I would have crushed being the lifeguard because I would have been like the hot snatch lifeguard in comparison to like the big fat fatties. But in regular camp, it just wasn't it. So I'm certified and a very strong swimmer.

My dad's a very strong swimmer. Very strong. Most Jews I know are strong swimmers. Why is that? I don't know. I don't know. Just in case we need to flee via the ocean. Is it because our flat feet are like flippers?

It's a good question. I don't know. We love the ocean. We love the ocean, though. I would say that. I think we're also big fans of low-impact exercises. Yes, that's a good, very true as well, water aerobics. I also think we embrace anything that will make us as far away from our mothers as possible.

Can I get away from her? All right, so you're in a reptide. You have two choices. Go with it or go against it. You're going with it. What was the other? I said swim to the bottom. You don't swim to the bottom?

Don't swim to the bottom. take your ass out. Why won't do that? Swim parallel. So go north or south on the, I'm assuming you're in the Atlantic or the Pacific, but just swim parallel to the shoreline. Rip tides are incredibly contained. So, you know, at best, they're 25, 50 yards wide. I mean, that's even maybe pushing it. So what happens is you go, you will swim parallel, you will get no resistance and then you'll be out of it and can swim back. So to be clear in this explanation, are we victim blaming Theo Huxable for not knowing

for not knowing his protocol in the Riptide? No, it's so sad. We're going to get canceled by the Riptide community. I feel for him because I think a lot of people you feel the power of the ocean and that you're screwed and most people I think panic and start swimming really hard

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I read a comment. I responded to it. I never respond to comments on TikTok. Somebody, like, wrote something under one of our videos, like, Ben has no real life experience. Like, why is he talking about it? I forget what he was like, they were like referencing. Like when I was saying that like I have to pull up the, can I pull up the comment?

Sure. I want to read it. Yeah, petty season. I want to read it. Response season. I want to do this every episode. It pissed the shit out of me. Like I've never.

This guy, I'm going to rip them apart. Okay. Ready? Ready for this? Mm-hmm. It was on a video of us talking about six flags. I don't even know. I just listened to Jay Shetty's episode.

How could anybody take issue? There was in a wonderful episode. episode, okay? I just listened to Jay Shetty's episode and was reminded once again how little life experience Ben has. I'm a lover of the pot and a toaster, but I can't help but notice that Ben and Claudia just really think they have life figured out. Ben just said there would never be a situation where he wouldn't celebrate someone's win,

in reference to a caller who was asking for advice about a friend being less than thrilled about her pregnancy because she was struggling to conceive. Ben lives in Lala Land much of the time where he's unable to put himself in somebody else's shoes and thinks he would handle any situation perfectly. God forbid something happened to sweet blank. I'm not putting that out there. I'm betting he would have to take a step back from hearing about other father's fun dad experiences for a while. He speaks like this a lot. And I'm glad he has a more mature, older, and wiser Josh to learn from. And one day, when Ben goes through some hard things, maybe he'll be a little more empathetic to others. This is one of many examples I could give,

but no one is even reading at this point, I'm sure. Ha, ha, understandable. And I read, try being kinder. You don't know me or what I've been through. Your judgment of a stranger is telling. Yes. So all I have to say is fuck you. And the reason that I bring that up was because I was about to say something else about Theo Huxstable

and how sad and all of this is and whatever. We just have to cherish life. But I don't want to proselytize for this woman. God, it killed me. It's so rare that somebody writes something like that. Like, how fucking nasty is that? It's so, it's so, it's so, it's just keyboard warriors thinking that they can make an impact. Like the amount of people who are, you know, the great Chrissy D talks about this.

And Theodore Roosevelt, this is attributed to him. It's called the man in the arena. We're in the fucking arena. We're putting ourselves out there. We're creating the content. We're having an opinion. We have, we, we, we're brinked. enough to create something, right? And it's easy to be a spectator up in the crowd,

throwing tomatoes and having your reactions and whatnot. But it's like, do you have the guts to stand in the stage and be like, look at this. Here's something. Let us help you to forget about your day to have an hour away whether you're working out or on your commute or whatever to enjoy yourself. So don't, don't criticize someone for trying to do something nice. And the Benjamin, the Benjamin software, I know is the greatest boy there. is. There's no like my co-host. Bless you. And all that I have to say, because I know you'll agree with this, jealousy is a choice. I will back that up all day long. Like I a thousand percent have stood in a room with friends

who have done the same thing that I've done and successfully done it when I have failed at it. And you have to be proud of the people around you. I'm sorry, I'll double down on it. just because you're experiencing something and negatively, and somebody's experiencing the same thing positively, if you look through life as poor me, I don't care what your economic status is. I don't care what your life looks like. If you run through poor me, you will have a horrible life. So remove the jealousy if you can. And that's what I do.

It's not proselytizing. It's the truth. I'm not a jealous person. I've never, I've been a jealous person. and I will never be a jealous person because jealous people make themselves sick yeah I oh I heard someone once say that they

knew people who gave themselves cancer to get out of a bad relationship I was like hey I like yeah it'll make you sick stress will kill you and jealousy will kill you facts absolutely but also yeah I don't know how we got here but fuck that girl fuck her well also

to that I would say sometimes the exception proves the rule right like everything you've said about how you feel, I know to be true about you. And yes, of course, in like those rare horrible moments when you lost Romeo, yes, I'm sure for a couple days after, you didn't want to hear people's super cute, you know, cutesy dog love stories because you were in mourning. That's normal. But like, that is such a rare specific instance when 98% of the time you're celebrating people's wins. I do even, I swear to God, if somebody

came to me in that moment like I wouldn't I wouldn't be angry at them I would probably say like for that one week have a little self-awareness but in general but in general I'll

I'm not gonna root that your dog dies just because mine did that's what this girl is saying like I don't want you to have that because I can't how awful is that so we should all have nothing

nobody should have anything there should be no joy I have a reply that I that's been on my heart. Do it. Do it. It's been on my heart. But this one is just really clear cut.

We had a wild speak pipe a couple weeks ago during the Rain Wilson episode, which was kind of confusing where this girl told this long story about her and her, I think, her boyfriend, and there was like a cheating scandal. And it was all these things. And we were trying to wrap our heads around it. And we thought it had to do with her husband's best. I don't know. It was a whole thing.

I don't really remember it too specifically, but it was wild, and we commented on it. Weeks later, she sent in a speakpipe after seeing the episode and saying, oh my God, I feel like an idiot. I misspoke about something. Here's some, like, other extra details that I need to clarify.

And we were listening to it on the episode a couple of days ago, and I think I just felt in my need also to make sure that I try to keep every speakpipe as interesting as possible, that people wouldn't have remembered that from the Rain Wilson episode. They'd have to think back a month ago and what is. And I just said, oh, who cares? I just moved on.

And she wrote me and she was like, you know, you have more influence than you think. And it does hurt to hear when someone you love says, oh, who cares? So I hear you. I could have done better. I'm sorry. And I love you. And I won't do that anymore. But also people's what are you nuts is this having nothing.

to do with our listener. They're just, I got to listen to these speak pipes. It's giving me gray hairs. Up your game, y'all. These, what are you guys? Are you trying to kill him? We said that stress creates cancer,

so do bad speak pipes. Are you trying to kill him? Yeah. Are you trying to kill him? Okay. So I was going to, when I thought you were going to call out a hater, I was going to suggest a new segment called,

hi, haters, where once a week we like talk about, let's do it. Some fan that we fucking hate. Or a person. It doesn't have to be a fan. I just always wonder. That's an oxymoron.

I've got one. Oh, please. Let me edit. Let me edit. Oh, great segment. Ben, Benny and Joshy, addressing the haters. Benny and Joshy reading these hosts to filth. Okay, hold on.

Because essentially speak pipes are the opposite, right? That's like us highlighting our wonderful community and giving them advice. And for every 99 wonderful morons, there is an absolute dickhead. So we'll read you to filth. But we also don't, here's the problem, right? When we do these things. We're encouraging bad reviews because they get spotlight. So we're only going to do this once.

And then how about this? We will only read each episode, we will read a five-star good review. I love it. I love it. Yes, you're right. Okay, so high haters, we're doing one time. All of the other times, it's, hi, friend. Yeah, thank you, friend.

Hi, hi, friend. Thank you, friend. I love it, Josh. That's thinking with your noggin. Thanks, Bobby. Okay, here we go. Love the pod, but Josh. Review update.

Giving five stars solely for Ben. Ben, are you exhausted from Josh constantly challenging and belittling you on every single little thing you talk about? Josh is giving that he absolutely hates you. And basically anyone who disagrees with him on anything and everything. I was on, well, Boutrin, ma'am. Okay. This is a very common side effect. to be adversarial and confrontational,

and you miss can go screw. You don't want a podcast where two people just constantly say the exact same thing in an echo chamber. That's not fun, right? So if I'm not offended by it, you shouldn't be. And if I am, we're not airing it. Just so it's clear. You're Musuga. I'm Musuga.

This whole thing works. all this is is one long improv scene. And the only way that scenes in anything work, the only reason why you're interested, whether you know it or not, is because there's conflict. And we just have Cayet conflict. Yeah, we do.

Cute. Gorgeous. Fantastic. All right, good. That was hi, hi, haters. But next week, it'll be, hi, friends. So leave us a five-star review that's gorgeous. You can submit a speak pipe where you're praising us,

or you can write comments under, I clearly see TikTok comments, okay? Even though I get millions and millions and millions of them a day because I'm a TikTok superstar, I see them. Josh sees them. So you can leave a nice comment there. We'll read them or send a speakpipe or leave a review on the pod. And we're going to read one gorgeous review or episode. Totally true.

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If you're not using Shopify, what do you get nuts? Should we get to a story? Yeah. Lisa Vanderpump hits back at Sheena Shea's bullshit TV exploitation accusation. Lisa Vanderpump dismissed Sheena Shea's BS accusation that she exploited her for fame. Guess what? I don't care what she says. How about that?

Vanderpump told the TMZ paparazzi. in Los Angeles. That's the saddest thing, the Real House Wives, Beverly Hills alum said. Yeah. Is Sheena, is Shea a friend of the show before I dive in?

I mean, I know her, and she's a nice enough person, but dive, dive in. She's never been on the show. No, I just, like, Lisa Vanderpump is like an Andy Cohen, right? These are, like, pioneers. Lisa Vanderpump made Sheena Shea.

Without Lisa Vanderpump, Sheena Shea, I don't know where she is, but she's certainly not in the position to, like I hate when people come back and say that their boss that gave them an opportunity, exploited them. You exploited,

cast you on a reality show and gave you your entire career, right? Like, I just, I don't get that. I don't get that. It's reality TV. There's no such thing as, how can you exploit someone? You're the one, it's unscripted.

You're doing whatever you want. And what? You're exploited her, like, used her at her bar. She was a waitress. They're all waitresses. Like, does it dig deeper on how she,

was exploited? I don't know. I didn't really see much of the Sheena thing. Although, so let me ask you this, right? Does it depend? Is exploitation contingent on compensation or how you feel about it? Because like when Drake has been talking recently on podcast, which I think he's totally right about, just that, you know, we never got residuals. So few people in kids television get residuals and so many massive corporation makes hundreds of millions from it. What do you say to that? You were exploited and that's scripted TV, it's completely different. Like, you were, you were paid for a very specific job, right? And your contract was fucked, totally fucked.

It was clear as day that this was your job. Reality TV, your job description is your entire life, especially in a show like Vanderpump rules, where they literally cast you at your day job and then follow you into the night and into the morning. and they gave you that opportunity and paid you incredibly well. Like the whole premise of the show, again, I don't know what she's claiming

to have been exploited for. I have to assume that it was promoting her bars or whatever it may be. But no, scripted versus unscripted, it's just a completely different ballgame, in my opinion. And so yeah, no, I saw those Drake headlines. And honestly, go Drake.

Like, I'm happy that somebody's leading this because, Josh, you never know. Maybe just maybe he'll make enough noise that somebody will cut you a check. Well, I don't know, but I give him a lot of credit for doing it. And I think it takes a lot of guts to fight that fight for sure. A lot of guts. And it's real.

It's real. So go, Drake, go. Okay, I have a fun game for us. This is from fast food club.com. The 10 oldest foods. Don't worry about my search history, fuck. I was going to say, is that pinned? It's hard to type with my diabetic fingers.

People open their browser and it's like Google. Yours is fast food club.com. It's better when I opened up my browser once in front of my sister alone. Poor not popped up. I was like, and it was just like fat chicks eating McDonald's. And I screamed, this is no reflection on your sister. Sorry, Taylor. Oh, that's funny.

Thank you for never bringing it up again. That was a weird road trip. Oh, that's really funny. Okay, coming in number 10, people have been eating burgers since 100 century AD. Burgers. Hey, okay. Okay, let's think of an, let's, oh, okay, in its earliest version was called Assisiya omendata, made with mincemeats,

Call fat, pepper, pine nuts, and garum fish sauce. I eat that today. Sounds delicious, and I like the addition of the pine nuts, Josh. It adds a bit of crunch. I've never thought of having crunch, you know. What was it called? Assisa Tomara. That's what I make a page scream when we're in bed.

Assisa. Assisa tommara. Okay. Okay, let's think. And Josh, G. to jump in here if one comes to mind. We've got nine more items. Maybe we'll do two or three.

Foods that are the oldest foods that the world still eats today. Got a guess? Maybe like a kebab? Hmm. A kebab. Coming in at number one, roasted and grilled meats. Cabob. Over 400,000 years old.

Yeah, that makes sense. Nothing better than some lamb on a spit. Oof. Got enough. I'm in. Anybody else? I want to get an in-home rotisserie, Josh. Thoughts?

All I know is it's going to give me that rotism, dog. I'm rotistic. That's too funny. That's our tagline. Let's make them in-home rotissaries. Hit us up, Shark Ninja. I'm so in. Okay.

Others. What about French fries? I figure it's just taking a potato, cutting it up, and heating it. That's got to be old. Could be. Good. Not on the list. What?

Kebob? What about falafel? Not on the list. Go more basic. Basic, basic, basic, basic, basic, basic, basic. Roast chicken? I guess that would be like grilled meats. So not on the list.

Not on the list. Eggs? Not on the list. Rice? Not on the list. That was a good guess. That was a good guess, though, Josh. Number two is noodles and pasta.

That's rice. Okay. Chinese noodle making dates back 4,000 years to millet or wheat, along with techniques of rolling and cutting. God, Chinese noodle. Here's some ones you might not expect. Number four, pancakes. How old is the pancake? These breakfast favorites date back more than 70,000 years.

Okay, but what were they made with? Turch's found that in the Shandar cave system in Iraq, showed people used to pound seeds soaked in water into a paste. They formed it into patties before cooking, resulting in the earliest forms of pancakes. Understood. So this is probably a savory pancake. Like we're thinking like a scalyan pancake,

more in like the Chinese world. We're not thinking of like an anchomime, a buttermilk situation. No, not a fun one. Not a fun one. No, this is a pancake. You don't want this pancake. This pancake is probably a wrap. Okay, this is a tortilla.

It's a sad one. This isn't Sunday morning cartoons. Is the tortilla a cousin of the pancake, Josh? Yeah, I would say. It is, right? A close friend. The very least, the close friend. And could you use a traditional pancake as the wrap of a breakfast sandwich?

The McGrittle. Oh, was that what it is? Yeah. Don't they use waffles? No pancakes. Okay. And they inject them. McDonald's.

You did it right. They inject them with syrup. Oh. Yeah, Dodd. Wow, that's insane. Josh, do you fuck with one? I love a McGreddle, dude. Bro, I've never heard you this passionate about anything.

That is one thing that will get any morning when I wake up and I can catch him a grittle and, like, make it to work on time. It's going to be the best day of it. Damn, so good. What's your go-to McDonald's breakfast sort of, Ben? Oh, I really don't dabble in, like, I don't dabble in fast food breakfast. But like I love just like an egg and cheese. That's like my deli order. Like my New York deli order is like a beautiful bun, egg, cheese, salt pepper, ketchup.

But no, I'm not like a fast food breakfast guy. You? I'll do a double hash brown, no sandwich, and orange juice and a coffee. Okay. I love the hash browns. Yeah. Fantastic. I actually love Duncan's hash browns.

Have you had Duncan's hash browns? Fabulous. Fabulous. They're unbelievable. They have a wrap that's good. They got it all going on. They did something a little bit. though. I just want to comment. Duncan's menu put bacon in everything. It previously wasn't

in everything. They used to have like a non, no, no bacon egg bite or like bacon is in every single menu item. Clearly I'm in the minority and they read some research study that if they put bacon and shit, people are going to buy it. But yeah, I don't know. They could have like a little bit of menu diversity. That's all. Just saying. Totally feel that here that. Yeah, shout out. Shout out Dunkin' Donuts. Shout out the incredible Southeast Asian franchise owners of all of Northeast Dunkin' Donuts. We look up to you. We praise you.

We love you. We do. We love you. Unbelievable. Josh cheese from Jersey. He knows a good Duncan. Oh, yeah. Come on.

Yep, yep. That was definitely a staple. Any mall, anybody who works at them all lived off of Dunkin' Donuts. So good. Fantastic. And they were big portions before it was cool. Those coffees have always been juiced. Oh, love it.

Let's go back to stuff. Styrofoam. Should we get to a quick speak pipe before Whittier Nuts? Yeah. Beautiful. If you want to ask us a question, get some advice. We don't want your Woody and Nuts, but go to speakpipe.com slash good guys. Keep it brief.

Brevity's key. Let's hear from Lily. Let's hear from Lollah Lillard. Boo, boo. Hey, good guys. Okay, so I'll keep it brief. I've been in a relationship with my boyfriend for about a year and a half now. And we both just graduated high school.

And yesterday, he asked me if we could share locations with each other, like him, me having his location, him having my location. And I don't know, I kind of just brushed it off. I was like, I don't know, he didn't ask in like a overprotective way or like a suspicious way. He was just saying it. And I feel like it is a pretty normal thing. Like all my friends show the locations with their boyfriend. So I don't know what to say because I don't know if I want him knowing where. I am all the time, not that I'm not cheating or anything, and I don't want to feel suspicious

or make him feel suspicious by saying no. But like, does he need to know where I am all the time? I don't know. I mean, I trust him, but like, why, why, what's the use of doing that? I don't know. And, like, I don't really care. I don't really care to have his location. I don't really want it. I don't know. So I just really need your guys' advice on what I should do because it's not like I feel like I'm in danger or anything, but I just don't know what to do. And I would love your help. Also, would love to get Olivia's advice on this as well. Well, Olivia's not here, so Olivia's out today. Well, first, I'm so excited, Josh, that we have young listeners. This is a 19-20-year-old listener. This is longevity, folks. The children are our future in the words of

Jenna Moroni, even though I know you don't watch 30 Rock. I, I would say it's so good. I would say that you're kind of screwed because saying, no, you can't have my location is going to be weird for sure. I hope somebody has your location, whether that's your mom, your dad, your sister. Nobody should not have your location. So if you don't want that to be your boyfriend, okay, I do think your boyfriend of two years should have your location.

And perhaps it is in the way that I'm thinking about it. I've never once checked Claudia's location. unless she was traveling or I was worried about her or her I hadn't heard from her. It's in like a worst case scenario. Only weirdos check people's locations to like show up where they are. That would be called being in a toxic relationship. So if you're in a toxic relationship, break up with him and don't share your location. If you're in a loving relationship where he just like cares about making sure that you're not dead

when you didn't come home last night or something, I would share it personally. Page and I don't share our location. Not that we wouldn't, and she has my Tesla app, so she knows where my car is. Does anybody have your location? No.

Somebody should. Nobody, don't you kidnap me. I know Krav Maga. Somebody should. Seriously, somebody should. Somebody should have your location. Yeah, but you know. Just one person.

It doesn't have to be page if you don't want it to be. It could be your, I don't know, UTA. How sad is that? My agency, that's really sad. Is my emergency contact? Shaney Rosenzweig, a UTA, managing partner. It's my emergency contact. Shout out, Shady.

Love you. 30 years almost together. What was I going to say? But have you considered this, that real G's move in silence like lasagna? I haven't. You like that or right? He wrote me again. That was so good.

No, I have not considered that real G's movement silence like Luzania. Is that one of the great little Wayne lines ever? Fantastic. Oh, so good. Shout out, little wave. Yeah, I agree with you. But tell me this, because for me, I feel like, even at two years dating, especially when you're young, I would look at the person I'm dating and say, listen, I could spend the next 15.

15 minutes talking or I could just say no right now. Just don't want to. I can give you a million reasons, but you got to trust me. But any of those reasons in my opinion mean that they're the wrong person. If you have any, any bad feeling in your gut and you're not cheating, you're not doing something nefarious, if you have any bad feeling in your gut as to why your significant And others shouldn't, if they want to, have your location, they're not right for you. I think.

Like, if nobody cares, nobody cares. Totally different story. But otherwise, it's like, do you think that they're going to show up at your house and kill you? Then you shouldn't be with them because you're scared of them, right? Like, if you think that they're going to track you and stalk you and show up places uninvited, they're the wrong person for you. I'll give you a good example. I was shooting a wonderful Applebee's ad with my sister-in-law the other week.

Shout out, two for 25. For our incredible collab with Applebee's. She got a text from her friend saying, are you at Applebee's? Blocked. Goodbye. That's not it. That's not it anymore. It's weird.

Yes, agreed. Agreed. Anybody, no, very weird. And if somebody were to be like that, if that's what your boyfriend is like, but then, Josh, you shouldn't be, would you be friends with that person who's stalking you? That's weird. Again, I, like, I know a lot of people like families who, you know, everyone's got each other's thing. I mean, granted, they're family, but everyone's got each other's location. And it's like, I don't know. I'm not the best person because I'm like a only child raised by

an older mom, right? So like technology and tracking people like, I was walking to the bodega at 10 when I was a kid by myself. I took the crosstown bus to school growing up when I was 12. So I know in today's day and age, everyone's way more connected, but I don't know, it feels, but I would want my kids. Maybe it's a service, Josh. This is a good idea for people who don't want to be tracked. There is a Homeland Security-esque service that tracks you. And then it's bought by Russia and you're murdered.

Russia. Should we get to our Woody Annette's? Yeah. Our Woody and Nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places, and things, both big and small, whatever, sticking in your craw. I'll go first. So I was watching a commercial the other day for the great Cracker Barrel. You know I love a Cracker Barrel.

This is no shade on Cracker Barrel, except they go, we've got our whole new summer barbecue menu. And basically they've just taken their menu items, and they cook it in tinfoil. What are you nuts? This is not a value at. They're like, it's our usual rotisserie chicken, but we cook it in tinfoil next to corn.

And they're like, it's our fun. summer menu. Sounds delicious. My Woody and Nuts moment of the week is Gospacho, Josh. Gispocho is not a soup. Soup is not cold. Gisbacho is basically a savory smoothie thrown in a bowl for $30. If I wanted a melon and mint smoothie, I would go to Jamba Juice.

I'm not going to your overpriced Italian restaurant, okay? Gispocha, what are you nuts? Love it. Take us home, Ben. Folks, this episode's five stars. Otherwise, what are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on YouTube, share our clips, Instagram and TikTok, Mondays and Thursdays. Folks, we will see you next time. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.