Good Guys - A VERY Special Episode

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Mazel morons! This week, we’re in *peak* summer mode- Ben's fully embracing his Hamptons dad era (and yes, that includes underwear-only mornings), and Josh is still haunted by a forgotten hospital tip. We weigh in on awkward wedding gifts, the politics of lingerie, and whether using ChatGPT for apologies is sweet... or sociopathic. Then, Knicks point guard Deuce McBride joins the show to talk dad life with a newborn, locker room etiquette, Caitlin Clark discourse, and the grind of the NBA. Plus, Deuce shares why he wrote a children’s book about friendship. You asked for longer episodes? We deliver! And if you think we didn’t… what are ya nuts? Leave us a voicemail here! Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: If you're ready to build your own business - whether it's merch, products, or the next best idea - get on Shopify.com/goodguys and make it happen! Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/GOODGUYS Get results you can run your fingers through! For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code GOODGUYS10  OpenPhone is offering 20% off of your first 6 months when you go to OpenPhone.com/GOODGUYS  Start earning points on rent you're already paying for by going to joinbilt.com/GOODGUYS Go to ThriveMarket.com/goodguys to get thirty percent off your first order, plus a FREE sixty dollar gift just for signing up. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Mazum morons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast, Ben. How are you? I'm wonderful, my friend. How are you? Hampton Harry over there. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. This is the summer of Ruby, Josh. This is, look, when you're a city boy and you have a city kid, you need greenery.

You need places to walk where you're not afraid that the guy in the corner is going to throw his needle and it's going to hit him in the leg or something. You need fresh air. No needles in sight. We're walking nice. I know you love a good walk. We're walking everywhere, okay? I'm getting in my steps.

Beautiful breeze in my hair. He loves, he loves a good breeze. I think all babies do, but him in particular, my God, he'll sleep forever if he just walks and walks and gets the breeze in his hair. It's fantastic. Imagine God came down and said, I can give you an accessory baby, right? Like beautiful Ruby will grow into the beautiful man that he will always be.

But I can give you a baby that always kind of stays a baby and enjoys a breeze. And they're sleep trained. So it comes around four and a half months, but they sleep most of the day. And you can just roll them. I would take that. Okay. Yeah. Just a permanent baby.

A pet baby. Okay. That would fun. Honestly, it sounds fun. So you're telling me, sleeps through the night. Yes. So you get your sleep, eating solid foods or just formula breasts, like milk, or just milk. Like a hamster.

Like a hamster. By the way, as long as it's not Ruby, because I need to see what happens to him, as long as it's just like another, I'm down. They're just so cute. They're so cute. You really got to get in between those creases, though. Oof, it's tough. I told you that under his armpit was smelling like cheese. Sure.

You don't know. Like, you have to rip up their arm. They don't want to lift it. You have to really, uh, get in there and clean. So I would want, the baby would need to be completely clean, okay? Have you smelled his fists yet? Does he hold fists a lot? Give it a month.

I haven't, I haven't smelled it. I haven't smelled it. No. But we get, but we're giving him a nightly bath. Regardless. You're in for a stench, a funk. You want to talk cheese? Yuck.

Roquefort, my boy. Yucky. Okay. You know what I didn't know we're at the south of France in the middle of West Hollywood. Oh, I just sniffed my son Myers' fist. Because they're clenched all day. And we lost all our French listeners. By the way, we had none.

There's no cross over. Do you want that camera bear? No, I want that baby feast. You're the baguette, baby fist. Nice. Oh, man. Yeah, babies are just so, they're really special. They're gorgeous and this age is priceless.

That said, I'm very excited to see. I want to see him smile. I want to see him talk. I think you feel that way because you have them walking and talking. Sure. I, like, I need to see what happens next. I'm on, like, episode one, season one of a freaking crazy, just unbelievable series. How long do I take this?

I lost my train of thought. What do you call the, uh, what? An allergy. I was like, how do I take this analogy? But yeah, I'm excited to just, like, see more of Ruby. But I'm loving taking him everywhere. Today we went to King Cullen, the grocery store. I wheeled them through the aisles, picked up a couple of things.

You know, Josh, we're deep in fork of July. I don't know if you know that, but this is the month of the fork. And we are making recipes, cooking up a storm. There's nothing, like my happy place is cooking outside. Like, that's why it's a shonda that I don't live in the suburbs, because I could do this every day as opposed to just two months out of the year. but my happy place is shopping and cooking something outside. Not even on the grill.

Like I just cook everything outside. I'll chop outside and then I'll cook inside. But as much time as I can spend with food outside, it's my happy place. I'm dying to know the hypothetical of if let's say your parents and basically everybody moved to Florida. Like your closest family moved to Florida and you were in the city 10 times a year for business. trips and whatnot. It's an easy hop two and a half hours to the city from Boka or wherever, you know, south of Florida. Is that I see you in that scenario. You love golfing. You love cooking outside. I know New York is your, I know it is a part of your identity. And I also know

you're convinced it's a part of your identity, but I also wonder quality of life if you could let it go. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to talk about it because it sends me down a hellhole. But like, depending on the way that this election turns in New York, I could seriously have to think about moving. So I'm thinking about it for the first time in my life. I don't want to do it. I really don't. Sitting materially changes it will make it significantly easier. That said, if my parents don't move, I probably still won't move. It's really my parents. I don't want to be without them. I don't want them to see Ruby 10 times a year. I don't like that. Like it's the same thing with my sister. If everybody I loved said we're moving. moving to Florida. I would move to Florida. I would move anywhere that everybody I loved moved. Let's play this fun game because I know that you and I could both crush it. Olivia, feel free to jump in. Let's throw out random cities because I love one of the great Romby Hoffman,

one of her favorite lines of mine that I love because I hate when people are proud where they're from when she goes, everywhere is a dump. You just pick your dump. Okay. And I agree. I can find something wrong with everywhere. So let's throw out, I'll throw out a place, and then you can crap on it and move on to the, we'll just, we'll just ping pong. Love it. Okay? Love it. So let's go.

So I'll give me an easy one, New York. Too expensive. Yeah. Too dirty. Got it. Give me one. Give me one. Portland.

Portland, Oregon. I knew you were going to say that. Rainy. Ugh. So rainy. What? It is. Depression.

Pacific Northwest. saw the rain. Okay, okay, here's one. Sydney, Australia. Haven't been, and it looks unbelievable. I would say that for me, the flight's a little bit too long. Too far. 24 hours is a what are you nuts.

But if I lived there, it seems lovely. Giant spiders, giant snakes, things everywhere, crawling in your house. What do you do about that? I don't want to deal with that. That's my problem. Yeah, 100%. Wow, by the way, and I haven't even thought about the creepy crawlers. They can't live there.

And gross. Can't live there. No good. This is what happens when you live in the tropics. No good. Crazy. No good. Okay.

Okay. Cus. Humid. Bugs. Please, Paul Wall driving around all the time. Not a lot of access to healthy food, I would imagine. Totally. You know what Charles Barkley says about the women of San Antonio?

What? Have you seen those clips? You're lying. Oh, my God. I have to send them to you. He just thinks that. the women in San Antonio are morbidly obese. He talks about it all the time on air, on air.

He's like literally on air. He'll just like randomly transition to, yeah, those women in San Antonio. You know, the women in San Antonio are enormous. The only sparrassey is on their way to go get. You have to. A chakoutery board. You have to look this up. He does it on TNT.

It's unbelievable. Oh, man. All right, I'll give you one more. Oh, no, we'll do, give me one. We'll do beautiful. And it's more fun when you pick, like, beautiful places. Than intentionally picking dumps? Yeah, a BISA.

You're not a dump. A Baza. Oh, wow, it seems fun, fun, fun, fun, fun. Just like, give me a magic pill and let me dance the night away. What can be bad about Abiza? I guess dying of an overdose. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, that would be the downfall.

Death. Bubbles everywhere because all those foam parties? Death, yeah. Oh, man. What about Moni? Carlo. Prohibitorily expensive. Lots of cars spinning really fast around that racetrack and the yachts are all there. I don't want to get hit by a car. It's my next to a restaurant. Noise pollution from F1. Imagine. Imagine jaywalking and Monte Carlo. That's a what are you nuts. Yeah. Holy smokes. Has anybody ever been

arrested for jaywalking? Or is this just like a big fear? I was detained. I actually think I know. I think I know this story. Yeah, and I've tried to fake an asthma attack and he wasn't hearing it. Yeah, that's, that cop is just like having a bad day. That's a terrible ticket to get. Terrible. I'll tell you another fun police story. My son was first kindergarten class. They got a tour of our local police department. And it was super fun. And so we go and I was one of the chaperone dads and I'm with another one of my favorite dads. So the best part of the tour was, you know, they're giving the kids a tour of all the the police station and the cars and everything. And then they go through the gear that they carry on their body.

Like, this is our vest. This is a flashlight. This is a radio. And then they get to the firearm. And it's a great teaching moment, right? Teach kids about gun safety. Like, this is our firearm and this is what police officers carry. And if you ever come in contact at your own house, at a friend's house, and you see a gun,

what should you do? And one of the kids puts his hand up and goes, pick it up and fire it. It's like, someone, get that kid in an after-school program. The cops were like, no, no, what? How old is this kid? And please, what is his name? Six. I don't know.

A little Ricky. I don't know. Oh, my God. That is hysterical. What does he look like? Does he have like a little moot, like a gap in his teeth? Fire! And fire it!

Just like my daddy is doing 25 to life. It was so good. I was like, oh, my God. That is hysterical. So good. Honestly, when somebody says, what do you do with a gun? A normal, like, pick it, use it. Like, I kind of get it.

Like, what do you mean? Put it in the drawer. Like, if you say to the kid, what are you supposed to do with a bicycle? Ride it. Sure. So it's good that he's learning. Thank God. Wow.

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You guys are going to be cooking. You guys are going to be doing all the things. When are we going to take Ruby to the beach? I want those little tootsies in the beach in the sand. Yes, we're going to farmers market it up. We just got here yesterday. So the summer is just beginning. Weather is a little bit rainy.

The second it gets nice and sunny, he's going right to the beach, putting those toes in the sand. The farmer's market. It's just so kid friendly. You guys need to, I know you'll never come. But like, you need to come for like a weekend. Oh, I would love to. It would be great. And like, it's just so, it's, it's so kid friendly.

And maybe it's just in juxtaposition to the city. But like, to be able to be outside and it's not, there's not so many people. Like, I'm not worried about him getting sick. Because everything's done outdoors. Yeah. Cooking, farmers markets, like little playground areas for Jackie's kids. Like, obviously, Ruby's too little for that. But, yeah, it's just, it's just amazing.

And you are sharing a house with Jackie and her husband? Yeah. Now, what's the underwear policy there? Are we going full Sinai West? I'm not going to lie. I was full Sinai West this morning. But nobody else is. I think this is just me.

This is me. Like, I am. I'll apologize up front. If you share a house with me, you're going to see me in my underwear. Never shirtless. Okay. I'm not walking around. provocatively, but black briefs just feel like shorts.

What's the difference, Josh, between black briefs and what I'm wearing right now? Because I can see the outline of your hog. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But they're not that tight. These are like loose cotton. I don't wear any tight spandex. Hold, please.

Olivia. They're fairly loose. Young Ethan and you are sharing a wonderful vacation home with his parents or yours. And Ethan comes out in his undies. Good morning, everyone. what are we having? Eggs and skyline chili? Are you pulling even to the side and going,

what the fuck? Are you doing in your underwear even? It's my mother. First of all, I don't think he would ever be caught dead doing that. He's the son of a teacher and he's so nervous. So if anything, well, I wouldn't do that either, obviously.

I don't know. No, of course not. I would pull him a side. and say, hey, you know, maybe, maybe let's revisit this. I totally, I totally get that it's not right for everyone. If my brother-in-law walked out in his underwear, I would say, what are you fucking nuts? Put on some pants. That said, this is just me.

Like, I'm an interesting cat. I do interesting things. And I think that probably when I met them over a decade ago, the first time I did that, they were probably like, oh, that's weird. And now it's just like, that's Ben. Like, Ben is just Ben. He's a oddball. I don't even think about it. Like, I just, like, I leave the room in my underwear and my shirt.

Like, I just, that's it. You're wild. You're wild. Like, yeah, I mean, like, we live five minutes from pages of parents. So it won't be odd maybe once a week where they'll come over in the morning. Sometimes, like, on a weekend, they'll come and, like, take the kids out for pancakes in the morning. or they'll come over, especially now, right? Her mom's coming and helping with the boys because we've got three.

You don't want to see my little thick tree trunk legs scamper up those stairs so quickly when I hear Stacey coming. I run up those stairs and I throw on shorts. I got the idea of Stacy seeing the outline of my, my hose. I get it. Of my blaster. I get it. Of my Hebrew National.

I absolutely. shame that I would bring this good Sacramento woman. I could never. I absolutely get it. I get it. That said, I'm not changing for anyone. What if Claudia was like this?

It's so funny. What was Claudia's thought about you going out to the nursing station in your underwear? That was Paige's first question. She definitely mentioned it one time. She's like, can you put on a shirt? I'm like, oh yeah,

I should do that. Because I was literally walking out like just in my underwear. I didn't make it past the door. She's like, put on a shirt. I'm like, okay. She's like, are you wearing socks? I'm like, no, I can't find them.

That was, those were the questions. You walked barefoot. You walked barefoot. Yeah, I was barefoot. I was barefoot. I was barefoot. You're a perfect person. I was barefoot.

Wow. And like when I tell you, I literally, I bought a $150 air mattress that I never opened. And like, I prepped. And I just, I was so delusional. I didn't know where any of my things were. I packed a bag. I didn't know where my shirts were. My shorts, my socks, nothing.

I just love that you were at one of the best hospitals in New York on the Upper West Side. And then there was another guy at a Ramada in Wichita who was about to leave his room and said, let me put on shorts and shoes. And you said, man, let me take him off. Oh, time to leave. Should we get to a speak pipe?

Yeah. All right. If you want to leave us a message, advice from us. Go to speakpipe.com slash good guys. Keep it brief. Brevity is key. Let's get to anonymous. Oh, this one grinds my gears. A fan of your podcast and the toast. I will try to make it brief. My husband's cousin eloped at the end of 2024 and they said they didn't want all the drama of a wedding. They have a large family. Everyone's very opinionated. Well, it turns out they changed their mind and the wife feels like she missed out on all of the wedding activities and celebrations.

And now they're going to be throwing a reception in October of this year, which is their one-year anniversary. And I'm calling to figure out, is it rude to not buy them a gift? It's a fairly casual reception. They're not doing a ceremony. They registered for gifts $200 plus. And the reception is going to be light appetizers in a pizza truck. So let me know your thoughts.

Oh, boy. It's, yeah, this is, it's weird to know the menu before you go to a, like, why do you know exactly what they're serving? That's kind of strange. Well, because they're close, but it's weird to use the menu to justify being a cheap skate and not buying them a gift. You obviously have to get somebody a gift if you go to their wedding. Otherwise, don't go. And by the way, you don't have to get something from the registry. Like, if you really want to, you could get them something.

cheaper. That said $200 to a wedding. That's why Josh is qualifying with the pizza truck. She's like, this is a cheap affair. Like, I shouldn't need to pay $200. But unless you don't have $200, $200 is a very like less than baseline wedding present. If people in your life were eloping, but you knew, and it wasn't some secret, wouldn't you try to buy them something, even if they never had a party? I would. And you know, it's funny. I actually, I have. a friend, a close friend who ended up just like he just got married one day. It was a tiny ceremony, like 10 people. And I never got him a present. And I should have. And I probably will now. That's something also that out of the blue I will do. I'll remember something from four years ago.

I'll act on it. I feel like most people won't do that. I will. If I forgot to respond to a text, I'll respond. If I forgot to get a wedding present, I'll send it. Can I use this podcast to fulfill some of my neuroses real quick and I apologize in advance. Speaking of four-year-old gift, I've been guilty of that too and I will say this. My wife, don't worry if this is breaking a hip a violation, just scoot right into my DMs. My wife, you know, a transport team takes you or a transport person is the guy who wheels you your wife, your pregnant wife downstairs with the baby to put in the car to leave the hospital. The Great Cedar Sinai, as I mentioned, amazing nurses, amazing hospital.

Thank you again. And so I was a little famished as our people. Wait, you were wheeled? Page was wheeled down in a, in a wheelchair. I wasn't wheeled. I asked. Clark, I'm just letting you know, Claudia walked down. I held Ruby.

Nobody escorted us. No way. Zilch. Zilch. Continue. Yeah, I guess I just know that from like movies and LA Hospitals. Weird, weird, right? You assume they're wheeled, right, Olivia?

Yeah, I would assume so as well. For sure. They just had surgery. They just had surgery. And you'd also want to assume that like the nurse is like checking on the baby getting in the car for the first time, I would think. Well, they have these transport guys that wheel, you know, the mom and the baby. And so, of course, I ran to go get the car and make sure it was all air conditioning, waiting for them. And then I went to the, we couldn't figure out we like got confused on the exit. So I'm like rolling around and I don't want her outside.

So I'm like trying to find it. Anyway, I finally found her and I'm getting the baby strapped in and her. And the guy was like, all right, have a. a great day and I was like thank you so much and he left and I don't know but you know me I like to wax people I like to give them a little scratch and then of course I'm already feeling a little like oh crap I didn't give him like you know just a little bit of money to say thanks yep and people might say what do you know this is a hospital people get paid salaries you know it's not like a as service basis I just who's going to say no to a crisp 20 agreed and then my wife in the right home she goes you know

that guy was so lovely She said, he helped me with this. He helped me with that. So now I'm caving in. My neuroses is off the chart. So I don't know how to find. I was, do you remember his name? She said, no.

If you were the guy who was on the transport team at Cedars Sinai and you wheeled my wife, feel free to DM me and give me your cash app. I want to send you a little bit of dough. And at this point, you're getting more. I feel bad. And I feel like there should be a penalty. I'm sorry, and I just want to give you some scratch. Thank you for being so nice to Meyer and my wife.

You shouldn't feel bad, but it's nice that you feel bad. I'm saying you shouldn't feel bad because this is definitely not a normal tipping occasion. I don't think he expects to be, but it's lovely. It's lovely. I have a similar but more unfortunate story. So we got to the house and Monday is our trash pickup, right? And I want to get in with the trash guy, okay, early. Because if you're not in with the trash guys out here, you got to break down.

boxes. I don't want to break down boxes, all this stuff. So I go, I meet him. I gave him 20 bucks. I'm like, thank you so much. I'll see you next Monday. He takes the 20. He's like, oh, they'll send somebody else next Monday. What are you nuts? What are you nuts? I thought it was you. I thought it's me and you all summer long. And it's not. It's not like he's going to go and share that with the next guy. No, you're going to be peeling 20s. So now what do I do? But I'm peeling 20s for what, Josh? If they're never coming back on just the hopes that he does make. a round trip? How do I know it's not going to be eight different guys in eight weeks? That would be odd. I agree. I thought it was odd that it wouldn't be him. Doesn't he have a

root? Yeah. He has no root. You have no root? He has no root. He has no root. You're rootless. You know, I feel bad for him. He has no root. He has no roots. He has really, Really, he's picking up left and right? He has no root and he has no morals. They're taking my 20. No morals. Take my 20 with no root. Christmas, he's getting nothing.

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He tries to tell me it's like, you know, beautiful packaging, but wondering your thoughts and opinions because to be frank, I'm over it, but wondering if I'm the crazy one or if he's the crazy one for being so into it. Take care. I do think, though, there's something like, it's both sleazy and nice at the same time. Like, him wanting her to wear lingerie is like he wants to be really excited by his wife. But I guess in the back of my head, it's also like if she's not doing that or do you have like a wandering eye? Like if she doesn't wear a lingerie and change multiple times a night, like are you no longer attracted to her and like. What about. Right.

Okay. How about this? What if there was something you liked a position thing? Sure. That your person just said, I don't want to do that for you anymore. And it was reasonable, right? Like it wasn't, you know, I need you to hang upside down. Like would you kind of feel like.

like, but I feel, I'd feel bummed. I'd feel bummed. Okay, so looking at it like that, I would say that multiple outfit changes, though, Josh. Nice. This isn't Cirque de Soleil. Yeah.

Like, this is the Oscars? This is her bedroom. Like, she's doing a quick change. Yeah. She has someone helping. She's like David Blaine. Yeah.

He's like, all right, you're going to change quickly, but I don't want to see that you change. Presto. I'm waiting, babe. Shit, shit, shit, baby. I think the guy's nuts. Yeah. But if he likes it and you don't mind, I think a singular outfit is lovely. I think the suggestion of.

a piece of lingerie is almost better. Not even lingerie, but just like a well-placed, like, little, like, pop of undies here and there, like, over the waistline just to remind you, like, what lurks underneath. It's like the lock, a lot of lockness monster, but fun. It's like me when I wear my undies over, over my hips. But you don't hide them. Yeah, she's like, I can't wait to see what's underneath those guildens from Amazon. Buy it now.

Six pack for 24. Oh my gosh. Let's hear from Haley. Hi, good guys. Okay, I know you like your brevity. So here's my, what are you nuts? AI generated or chat CBT assisted apologies or just big important messages with someone you're dating or any friendship. any relationship whatsoever.

Another big Instagram accounts of this being caught where they forgot to delete the part where it says like, hey, I can refine it to be a different tone if you like, etc. And I've also had this happen to me recently. I was very upset with someone I was seeing because I did not feel respected. I felt a slut about something that's neither here nor there. But then they decided to rectify that lack of respect. and, you know, me feeling misled by trying to trick me into thinking that a robot's apology was their apology. And even more nuts, when I asked them point blank, they admitted it.

Like, wild to do, but also wild to not take to your grave. Wild, to be honest. Wild. Wild. Yeah, no. Yeah, by the way, that's already in nuts that she had an issue with him being honest. And no one ever says it's neither here, but it is there. No, sorry.

Before we jump in, Josh, you're in a room. It's you, a woman named Haley, and a woman named Lee. And you're trying to say hey to Lee. I got where you got me from. I do see that. I'm just saying, very confusing. Hey, Lee. Who am I talking to?

This kid needs more sleep. So dumb. So dumb. Hey, Lee. Chat GPT is incredible for, I love using it to clean emails. We've spoken about it. If I need it to jumpstart my brain. It's great.

I think that using it for heartfelt messages is very bizarre because it's not your heart. Like, chat GPT doesn't know the way you're feeling. So if you were to write, like, hey, hey, I did this, I did that, blah, blah, blah, write me a message that seems sincere. It just, it's not sincere at all. It completely defeats the purpose of the apology that you were sending. So I think it's a complete what are you nuts.

The only thing that I could see being fine is like you run it through it to spell check. Like that's great too. You can literally put in your message and say, hey, remove grammatical errors or make sure everything's spelled right in case like me. You don't know how to spell separately. and you always end up putting the E in the wrong place. Is it for grammar? I'm that way with received.

I'm like, here it comes. I see it coming. Yeah, whereas it's the eye before E except after C, but you can't seem to remember it when you're actually writing the word. And Chat GPT, if you wrote it, they would write it properly for you. The fact that this person didn't delete the question from Chat GPT is crazy. Also, though, the fact that ChatGPT, when you press the copy button, they should not be copying their part of the message.

I don't have his side of it. I didn't talk to him. I only have your side of it. And I talk to you. This is going to hurt. You sound like an intense person. I would almost go as far as say as you sound like a lot. And the nature of relationship type talks are intimidating, especially for dumb boys, which

we are, especially when we're young. And we don't have a lot of experience or some might say precedence to pull from. And thus, I do not, I do not feel bad about this guy trying to use the most cutting edge tools to deal with you. Like, he doesn't want to upset you. He doesn't want to hurt. I mean, I feel like you leaned on the wrong parts of the story, which was he did it. He was honest and which was a turnoff. And he used AI to take responsibility.

right for something that she felt misled about which is fair and honest like it's not like he said it's not like the prompt was hey use the most vengali trick deck manipulative strategies in which good idea to get her to not only not be mad at me anymore but give me her social security number like that's when you go but you literally how sweet is that like hey I don't know how to properly tell this girl my bad. Can you help me do it in a way that sounds really honest? I just don't want to hurt her or upset her. Did he use it to break up with her?

I forget if she said that. I don't think so. It was just like an apology? Like it's somebody that she's with? Yeah. I mean, they're dating and she felt misled. And it sounds like he was taking responsibility. He just used AI's help.

If you are using it to break up with somebody, I would say that it's still certainly better than ghosting. And a lot of guys do that. Guys stink. Like, guys are just the worst. I can't tell you how. Like, I have so many friends that just used to stop texting girls. It's like, what are you doing?

Is ghosting becoming more equal, Olivia? I think people do it on both sides, for sure. I think that the lack of clarity that that creates is just, like, not cool in any circumstance. Whether it's like even like a friendship or something, I don't know. I think, like, there's some things that can be left unsaid, but I don't know. It's definitely more equal, though. I see it with men and women. My dad goes, can't relate.

Just kidding. He's dead. He can't say anything. The king of ghosting. Literally. He is a ghost. He's literally ghosting. Sometimes I'm sad.

Juice don't believe in hell. You are fucking damn there. Oh, my God. That's hysterical. Oh, man. Oh, you had a lot. The vacation home? I heard about the vacation home from me.

You had a lifelong vacation from me. I know where my siblings are. I'm going to ruin your legacy. Yeah, you better pull a favor. You better strike me down with lightning because I'm going to ruin it. Oh, my God. That's so good. Hey, how you doing?

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The episodes are too short. That's good. Supply and demand is good. You demand we don't supply. This is the Supreme of Podcast. Anyway, go check out. Bruce McBride's book, his children's book, and enjoy this interview. This is a long epi, long episode for you, you morons.

Mazo Morans, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here staring at two beautiful men. I'll let Ben do the intro, but the truth is we are in a new studio that looks kind of like the set of the Mori-Povit show. The results are in. We're all the fathers. Come, Ben. Yes, we're all fathers.

I'm sitting here with the great Deuce McBride. We have a lot of Nick fans that listen to this pod. I'm born in Brad New York. Josh is born in Bread, New York. He left us for Los Angeles like a dweeb. But tons of Knicks fans, but more importantly, tons of fans of dads. You have a, you told me a 12, 12 day old daughter. So you're in the thick of it right now.

Yeah. You're in the thick of it. Are you sleeping? Not much. Not a lot of sleep. Yeah. Not a lot of sleep. It's crazy, right?

Crazy. It's crazy. Did you get a night nurse? Like, so just you and your wife. Yeah, and her family's here. My family came up. So it's been nice for them to help and they want to help. So it's been easier.

But we've been taking a lot of a lot of sleepless nights and not many meals. Yeah. So I did the same. We did just me and my wife. We did it, of course, like families around to help if we need them, even though my wife hates having people in the house. So it's really just been us. And it's a crazy adjustment.

You're waking up every two hours. hours, really. And yeah, I haven't had a, I haven't had a full night's sleep in like five and a half week. So if we sound groggy, it's because we are, okay? Cut us some slack. I first, I'm not going to get you slack with that intro. Not good. Not good enough. Not good. Okay. You kind of skirt over the fact that we have an elite marquee athlete in our midst. And he's an author. He's an author and a dad. He's all the things. So he's an unbelievable, unbelievable basketball player. The generation town. You're sitting with Mr. McBride.

First question, are you truly 6-2-195? And what's it like to be at my goal height and weight? I'm a little heavier than 195. I'm probably like 210 now. That's probably my rookie weight. But no, it's taking me a lot of places, athletic body of mine. He looks, he's sveled, Josh. Sveld, built.

Can you imagine? Because you're 6-2, Ben. I was going to say, I think, being the same height. Are we the same height? I'll say so. Yeah. So whenever you call me on it, I'm 6-2, okay? Yes, and I'm 6 feet, and you like try to make me sound like about 5, 7 little squeak you could

throw into a swimming pool. I just think you're like 5-11 and 3 quarters, but it's fine. I'll give you 6 feet. I totally am. It's fine. I'm 6-2. You're 210. I'm at my goal weight right now of 240-0 muscle.

I was 285 when Josh a year ago before I discovered a gorgeous injection called those MPEC. Two years ago. Two years ago? Two years ago. Yeah, because I remember we were going, you were in L.A. And you swore me to secrecy when we were eating dinner at catch. And you looked at me and you were literally like this. You see how little I'm eating?

Yeah, it's such a Jewish question. It's just like so life-changing. Like if I was this weight in high school, I loved playing basketball. Like I'm like the quintessential Jewish three-point marksman. You put me in the corner. I'm drilling all day long. But just like a little too fat to play. Like that was just like my thing.

I was like a nice three on three. He catch me during lunch at the park. Okay. But like for teams, it just wasn't happening for me. But if we had Ozemic back then, Josh, who knows? Maybe I would be playing for the Knicks. Yeah. You really, I could see that for you.

I totally could. Would you be comfortable showering naked amongst dudes? I wouldn't. It's tough. Then, no. Now I go to like, not Equinox. Because Equinox, you never know what's going to go on over there. We should probably cut that out.

But, you don't fuck with my. My free membership. Yeah, I know. I know, I'm sorry. Honestly, I have to assume that the equinoxes in L.A. are very similar to the equinoxes in Soho. Things are crazy over there. It's not just equinox, so unfortunately, or fortunately, fine, or fortunately.

At most gyms, like, there's going to be some dudes cruising. Cruising for a time. They're going to cruise. They're going to cruise. Yeah. At a gym near me. We're trying to go in, not fully set up in the membership. system yet, but, you know, they weren't letting anybody in in general because apparently there's

a couple having intercourse in the hot tub. No. Unbelievable. Yeah. In the public hot planet. Public hot. It's too much. It's too much.

It's a nice gym. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Wow. As an elite basketball player, obviously I'm sure you have to be careful playing outside of the league. But are you ever tempted to roll up?

to an LA fitness. I'm not even talking about like a rucker park. I'm talking about a bunch of Joe Shmows who think they're the greatest ever and just be like, let me show you what it means to play basketball boys. Without a doubt.

Do you ever do it? I don't look at, you know, what fans say about me and things of that nature, but my family does. So every time they say a little this or that, I always think like if I showed up at any regular gym, if a G-League player showed up at any regular gym,

I mean, it's night and day. Night and day. It's not too close. I mean, it's a whole different world. Who's the worst at dabbing on the necks? Like, and do you judge a man by a dab? A dab? Yeah, is there anyone who's bad at handshakes? Bad at high fives.

You know, they just miss it. Bad at handshakes. Oh, man. No, actually, I would say as a team, we weren't great at handshakes. We didn't have probably, like, any handshakes. And then, you know, shout out, Mikkel. and Cam who got the whole team. We got a whole pregame of handshakes going on for every game now.

I mean, everybody has a handshake with everybody, which is cool. It just seems like there's just great camaraderie. Like, you guys, like, it's a great locker room. People love each other. Like, is that, that's the way that it is? Yeah. It's awesome. That's great.

What about, okay, so you get to the locker room, right? This is what the people want to know. And you have your little, you know, you have your locker. It's kind of a cubby. It's, okay, here we go. I'm like, where's it going? I love it. What is the level of nudity in the locker room?

Because I would be like leaving the towel wrapped around my waist and doing this move. You know, I'd be like, great, keeping it, hey, keeping it zesty, Anthony Towns. You know what I mean? Jaylin, amazing, like, good game, y'all. You know, like? There's not a high level of nudity. We all are very individual in there. We're locked in on our own stuff going on.

Right. Yeah, because you would be modest. But the way they make it look like in the 90s are like with certain... Guys were just walking around naked. Yeah. Well, that's old heads in general. Yeah, I was going to say. You go to a spa and you're going to run into that 65 year old that just ass naked brushing his teeth.

It's like, dude, what are you doing? Or flossing right in the middle of the hallway or something. No, no, no. No, we are. Judge a guy's like products, right? Like here you are. Like you're hitting your keels, moisturizer and like,

so-so over there. It's like with the Duane Reed brand. You're like, you just made $8 million this year. You do a generic lotion. Yeah, we actually, we kind of do get on each other about what we're using just because like some

guys are wiped up and some guys aren't. Yeah. The guys that are washing their face with, you know, shampoo or stuff like that. Like, we kind of get on each other for stuff like that. But it's funny. That's so funny.

I mean, I have a million questions. You mentioned AAU, like, growing up with guys. Like, were you competing against any of them? Like, did you grow up playing against Halliburton? Like, did you grow up playing against? Yeah. Yeah, a couple years older, like, I'm trying to think who was, who I really played against that's,

played against Jalen Green, just got traded. Jaime Hakez. They were on the same team. And it's funny because I didn't know Jaime at all. And he ended up going to UCLA and one of my. my good high school friends is a UCLA assistant coach. And we were all worried about Jalen Green. Obviously, he's been killing the AU circuit.

And Jaime Hawkes gave us like 35. And we're like, who is this kid? And they're like, oh, yeah, it's a UCLA command. Little did we know. Yeah. I mean, that's how good guys are. So good. It's like a completely another level.

Yeah. And it's just thinking about those type of moments is just like, man, it's fun to see that we all made it. You know what I mean? No, it's amazing. What's the biggest difference between going from high school level of play to college and then college to the pros? I mean, I feel like high school to college, it's such a big jump because now you're looking at like that first physicality level of a guys being, you know, 22, 23. You're coming into college at 17, 18. Like, you know, I was probably coming into college 180, you know.

And I mean, I'm going up against guards that are now been in a wait room for four years. and that was probably the biggest jump for me, I think, was the physicality. But luckily, we had a great strength program. And I think I gained, like, 15 pounds in, like, a month of, like, straight muscle. Just, like, imagine celebrating gaining 15 pounds in a month, Josh. You know, like, I gained 15 pounds. That would be my worst nightmare. Oh, my God.

If I gain 15 pounds in a month and it's not for a role, I'm divorced. That's bad. Something really bad. happened. I'm interested in this because my father-in-law was a quarterback for the Jets for like 10 years. And one day I was showing him this scene in any given Sunday where Pacino is full Pacino giving this like incredible speech. And I'm like, isn't this great? And he's like, it's great acting. This would never happen. And he's like, the days of the inspiring coach, he's like, it's just you're probably not getting that big lift-up speech

because it's just it's a different game like every guy's a little bit out on their own nowadays is that true do coaches still give you that that pump-up speech I wouldn't say it's movie-like but I I definitely think the motivating part is the main part I think from a coach at this level for us you know the exes and it can only do so much it's motivating your guys to go out there and get the job done So I wouldn't say it's a movie. Like I would say it's more game plan oriented. But, you know, I'm ready to run through a brick roll for some of my coaches.

I was instructed. How about this? Let's do role play. Let's joke around, okay, a little bit. And you can be the judge, deuce. We'll be, Ben and I will be your imaginary coaches. And we'll give you like a pump up speech. Okay.

And you tell us which is more inspiring. Okay. I like that. Yeah. Okay. Let's give, I'll give you, how long do you want, Ben, 30 seconds? 30 seconds. You go first.

You go first. You go first. Yeah, you go first. This is a great idea about you, but I need like, I need like your 30 seconds. Okay. I'm going to give it. Let's, what's fair? Do you's 40 seconds?

Is that like a good? Yeah, I'd say that's solid. 40 seconds. 40 seconds. Okay. And what is this like, end of like, end of the third quarter, we're down 10. I like that. I like the finals, game seven.

I like down 10 going into the fourth. We need a spark. Yeah, we need a spark. Okay. You ready? I'm ready. Apparently. all of you don't like pizza

because none of you are getting pizza or ice cream if you keep playing at this level guys I am in the middle of a divorce okay

I got it I need something she's gonna take it all I said we should get a pre-nup honey she's like we don't need it it's true love spoiler alert we needed it This is bad, boys. So I need something to get me through.

Let's get out there. I am falling apart. Let's do it, Nick. Thank you. I'm inspired. I mean, I'm ready. I'm ready to run through a wall for you. That was excellent.

Thank you. That was excellent. I don't even know if I can go. I should have gone first. I should have gone first. All right, we're down 10, going into the fourth. Okay, I'm trying to get into that headspace. We need this win.

We need this win. We need this win really, really badly. Look, we don't want to go home. We don't want to go home. I don't think you want to go home. I don't think we have a chance to close it out on the road right now. We have 12 minutes. And then we can go.

We can have a beautiful weekend. You don't have to come in the morning. You don't have to practice. We're going to work our asses off. 12 minutes. It's all I need for you. 12 minutes. And then I can make brunch tomorrow.

You can make brunch tomorrow. Okay. You're going to have a – You're going to have spritses. You're going to go get a couple of sprits. You're going to sit. You're going to drink. Maybe you're going to go to Sidel's.

You're going to get a nice little spread. Okay? You're going to have a great time. Or you're going to get on the plane. You're going to go. And then all of a sudden you're doing suicides. It's no good. Take your pick.

Suicides are Saldes. Suicides are Sedles. 12 minutes. Let's win. Okay. That's good. Okay. Suicides are Siddles?

I like it. I like it. The juxtaposition? I like that. I love that. I love it. I like that. I love it.

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athletes. They would say to me, we just can order whatever we want at Nike.com. And it just shows up. Is that true? I mean, depends if you have a Nike deal. I have a Nike deal. So, yeah, I can definitely go to Nike Elite.com and get a nice little package for myself, for my family or whoever. Sick.

Yeah, that's a great perk. Definitely. I'm not going to lie, Josh. He has perfectly crisp white Air Force ones. Like the ones that you got me. I got, it's funny because I got about 10 pairs of crisp ones. Chris ones. Yeah.

But I thought I was going to rain a little bit. I'm not going to lie. These are crisper than my backup pairs. Josh, for my birthday, got me two fresh pairs. I wear them. I wear them to death. Yeah. They're just my, they're my every shoe. Everything shoe. They're the best. We have a deal with Merrill.

And so, I don't know if you're familiar, deuce. But so we're getting walking shoes. We're getting hiking shoes. We're getting skipping shoes. We have a deal with Merrill. So good. So good. Can we talk about Caitlin Clark?

Yes, we should. We should if you're down. Because I was going to ask, like, you said that jump from high school to college, those guys are super physical. Like, we're watching in real time. Like, she's getting, it looks like she's getting beaten the fuck up on the court. And it's like these, these women are just like very, to me, it seems jealous or are they like just trying to haze her? Like, like, what's going on? I wouldn't say haze.

Right? I wouldn't say hey. Like, are they trying to hurt her? Like it's, it's crazy. I would hope nobody's goal is to actually hurt her. I think it's definitely like a welcoming or it's, you know, people have a chip on their shoulder. Like, what's so great about you? You know what I mean?

What's so special is she's unbelievable? She's unbelievable. Trust me. What's so special is she crosses half court? I've never seen anything like it. No, she's special. I think they definitely want to make her prove it. They do.

Yeah, they want to put her through all the tests, put her through everything. And all right, let's see how great you are. Like prove it to me. Did you see that clip? I guess she hit three threes in a row. She crossed half court. She got hit in the eye. She's like down.

All of a sudden she gets checked from behind and hits the board. Like, is this hockey? Yeah. Like, yeah. That was crazy. Crazy. Yeah. But do they have in basketball in hockey, right?

Your star player, you will literally say, okay, let's bring on an enforcer. And their major job will be, if you touch our star, like next time up, you're getting checked into the boards as hard as. they can. And it's just sort of accepted. Does that exist in basketball? So I'm going to protect the star player? Yeah, I would say so. I think we're lucky because as a team, we're going to protect each other no matter who it is. But I think around the league, there are definitely some guys that are definitely bruisers and forcers that are just brought on to protect. Absolutely. I think that exists. Yeah. It feels like in those clips, though,

Caitlin Clark, she needs a protector, like game day. Like, what does your game day routine look like in the game tonight? Okay. So. We got usually like a 10 a.m. like walk through, shoot around, go through our stuff, go through whoever playing tonight. And then I will get some treatment, you know, ice tub, hot tub, massage. And then eat around 12 o'clock, 1 o'clock, take a nap for like however tired I am. Might be 30 minutes, might be two and a half hour nap, wake up. That's rough. Waking up from a two and a half hour nap.

And I'm like, where are you? Not when you're flying in and out and you just landed at 3 a.m. Those two and a half hours, they're clutch. You need it. Yeah, you need it. And then I head to the arena. You know, I make sure I pray before I go to sleep and head to the arena. And what, they're like 5.30, get on the court, do some more prep for my body.

And then it's game time. Wow. What a day. It's a full day. Full day. Like a full day. like from 830 to 10.30. We're doing everything except playing, Josh.

We're steaming. We're cold plunging. We're getting massages. This is my afternoon. This is fainting and praying every morning. This is fantastic. I love it. Is there?

Because sometimes I'll see like, like I think everyone's personal spirituality is perfect. And I always find when I'm talking to God before I have a big performance or something that I like care about, my whole thing is like, just let me serve the peace in the audience. right, like to try to get out of myself. Because if I'm trying to serve me and like, just, just let me kill this shit, dog. Like, God, just be behind me. Which is when I'm probably going to self-sabotage.

Is there like, because sometimes I'll see teams, like, have a prayer about winning. And I'll be like, I don't know if God cares if the Seattle Supersonics win this mid-season game. But so, like, what is that centering practice? Is it just to be the best that you can be in that moment? Or what is it? Yeah, definitely, you know.

keep me healthy, but absolutely be the best. Like, let me go out there and be the best. Let me, you know, I prepared to my best ability. Let me go out there and showcase it. Yeah. Speaking of health, why do you think guys, like these Achilles injuries are popping up? Like, you saw Tatum. I mean, you saw two of them.

Yeah. You saw Tatum and then you saw Halliburton. Or you didn't see it, but like it was in the finals. But it feels like young guys are getting injuries that are more prone for old their players. Is it, are they overworked? Like, what is the? I would, I would say, yeah. Like, a lot of people who argue, you know, we get all this treatment, we do all this. Well, you know, back then, A.U wasn't the same. Like, I vividly remember playing three games in a day, you know, and playing, you know, six to seven, eight games in a weekend. You know what I mean? And on top of it,

I'm playing another sport. I'm practicing for both sports. And I know a lot of other games. And I know a lot of other guys are too like they're playing just as many games if not more flying all across the country and they're not taking care of their body properly until they get to maybe college and then i know a lot of guys aren't taking care of their bodies in college so you you got to think the intensity also has gone up because now everybody's working out everybody's training not like back then when you know you had a few guys that really knew the game but now we got a lot more guys training a lot more guys working out so the intensity's risen the you know the quantity is really as in of just how much you're playing.

And then you get to the league and 82 games after you've grown up just playing nothing but basketball or other sports involved. And now you're playing 82 games. And we're playing playoff games every other day, which was, I mean, kind of crazy in the Eastern Conference Finals. It was like we went through first and second round where we had like two days off in Detroit or a couple of days off here. But now we're playing every other day in the Eastern Conference Finals.

So I think it's a big part of just. just a lot of games in a small amount of time. Yeah. What do you think about, have you heard about this book, Range by David Epstein? I don't think so. He wrote this book,

Sports Gene, and it's the thing that I love, I love throwing it in the face of fathers who care about their kids in sports. Because it's not like, you know, it's not like fathers of people like you do who like have elite genetics.

I'm like, listen, little Avery over there. He's not so good, okay? You know, I don't know, No one is hard to tell you. He's not great. But basically what Range talks about is that hyper specialization at a young age is good for two things only, which is golf and classical piano.

Yeah. Because they don't change, right? They're very regimented. And that basically what you want for most kids is for them to be well-rounded throughout their time, especially when they're young. Play a bunch of sports, become mobile athletic people. And then in their teens, they can become super special. because they're like, you could have a 10-year-old who's been going to travel camps and to club sports

and had all the experts with them. They're like, if you have a guy like you who's obviously works and talented but also predisposed to be great, you could have never picked up a ball to you were 13 and you would have caught up to those kids really, really quick. Like basically, there are just people who are going to catch up in six months. if your kid's been playing for 10 years. Is that kind of true? I think so.

I mean, even for me, like, I see guys around the league that might not touch a ball, let's say season ends in April, May. They might not touch a ball until August, September. And then you wouldn't even notice it. Yeah, I love that you ask that question, Josh, because I was thinking the same. I'm sure that there are guys around you that have to take great care of their bodies. And I'm sure there are guys that don't have to at all.

Like, I have to watch. every single thing that I eat. I'm this fat by watching everything that I eat. Okay? And I'm telling you, like, I've heard of guys, like, they eat 10 packs of nerds a day, or they eat, like, shadow chasinko. They love, yeah, they love uncrustables. I don't know if it's a thing in the NBA, but it's a thing in the NFL.

It's like, if I had an uncrustable, I'm bloating. One uncrustable. I'm dead. I'm dead from gluten. And it's, yeah, I'm in a diabetic coma. So, like, like, what's that like? Are you somebody that needs to take care of themselves? And what's it like then if you are that type of person watching a guy who's just so gifted like LeBron.

Like I'm sure you played against LeBron. I'm sure at this point he takes care of himself. Guys in his 40s like crushing it. Well, yeah. I mean, I'd say in some ways you're jealous because you're like, man, this guy doesn't do anything. And I'm over here doing whatever I can do to make myself get that advantage. Yeah. Get extra sleep.

Eat right. And then you see a guy that doesn't do one of those. But sooner or later, you see it catches up that guy and you'll see the people that usually treat their bodies right. You usually benefit from it in the long run. And I think that always comes to, you know, fruition. So it's tough to see in the moment, but you kind of just, you kind of just get used to it. And you like to, you know, I love to do what I do. You know, I love to take care of my body.

I love to do all the right things because then it gives me more confidence when I'm out there to know that I prepare it. I've done everything I can do. So just go out there and play free. Genetics are just so crazy, aren't they, Josh? Like, I have a, we joke. We had an episode, Josh brought in Russ and daughters bagels. I ate a bagel in the middle. I'm like, I can't think anymore.

Like, the second I eat a bagel, my brain turns off. And then you have people that are eating bagels. Like, they're eating pasta before they play a 48-minute NBA game at the top of their, like, like, have you ever thought about that, Josh? There are people that literally eat carbs. Do you eat carbs for fuel? You do, right? Yeah.

Oh, like, what? It's like a parallel universe. Like, imagine eating a plate of pasta, Josh, before you go for a run because you know that it's gonna like it'll give you energy. Yeah. But yeah,

he's burning it, babe. I know, it's crazy. You're not burning it watching Love Island? I know. So good.

Are you watching Love Island? No. Oh, God, it's fantastic. Duce, I know, dudes, I know we just met, but when you lose a game

or you lose a series like that you feel really, you know, passionately about, you ever want to cry? Absolutely. Yeah. My man.

Me too. Yeah. I mean, you were your whole life. You were all season with those guys. And you definitely get emotional. I mean, it's something you love, at least for me. It's something I love. I love playing.

I love this team, you know. And yeah, I was definitely emotional after we lost. Did you love, like, were you a diehard fan? What was your team growing up? I wasn't a diehard fan of really any NBA team. Like, obviously, I'm from Ohio. So I watched the Cavs pretty heavily with LeBron. I was I'm more like players I'd say

Yeah you're a player guy Who was your favorite player? I mean probably LeBron LeBron Yeah Yeah I really like Tracy McGrady Man Who else I watch

Chris Paul a lot Kamba Kemba was huge So good Also a Nick Yeah At a weird time We love to do that

We take guys just at the very end We throw them on So many random guys But like what's it like then So you're idolize Lebron And all of a sudden You're playing against Lebron Like what is that

Are you nervous? No, I would say, like, from being on the AAU circuit, you start meeting so many guys. Like, I think I met Dwayne Wade when I was, you know, a freshman in high school. So you just start meeting so many guys just as you start going farther and farther in your basketball career that you really just get used to it. Like, I played for LeBron's AAU team. Got it.

You know what I mean? So, like, you kind of just get, you're very used to it by that point. So AEU is really like you're turning pro at 13. It's like a different, or when do you start AAU? I would say, like major AAU is about 14, 15, like when you're entering high school. I'm just saying, Josh, he's a child actor. You're like, there's, there's a AYU. There's parallel here.

There's parallels here. I'm sure that there are guys in AAU that are so good, either get injured, get burned out, and never make it. But they were the guy, right? Oh, without a doubt. That's like Josh. Josh is just an amazing actor, but there are plenty of child actors that also burn out. Yeah. I'm just recognizing.

parallels here. I mean, I was AAU. I mean, look, AAU for actors, 13, it's Fiddler on the roof. Yeah. 14, it's Pippet. 15, it's Hamilton. You know what I mean? By 16, you better be on a Nickelodeon show. And by 17, you're going to Equinox. So. Let's do the book quickly and then a what are you nuts? Perfect. Okay. Why write a children's book? That's my first question. And then I want to talk about the book because Deuce, the championship of friendship, champion of friendship. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's such a great concept. I haven't seen another athlete go into children's books. My sister-in-law just wrote a children's book also. And we are in this life stage. I have a five-week-old. Like, your whole life becomes them. So this, I think it's genius. But what made you want to write a children's book? You know, I always felt like a lot of problems in the world are just adults, not doing

the right things by children, you know, not leading them in the right directions, not being positive when they need to be positive, but also not being able to discipline them in the right way. And I feel like being able to teach the youth the right way of doing things will make the world a better place in general. It starts with the youth. Like, they're our future. They're going to be taken care of us. And, you know, like I'm very big and, you know, giving back and, you know, helping out the boys and girls clubs in Cincinnati, bringing them to some Pacers games when we play against them. So I just wanted to write a book about friendship and just really, you know, I'm very blessed and I have a great group of friends.

And, you know, a lot of people aren't blessed like that. A lot of people don't have people that they can go to about any problems or things that are bothering them. And I feel like, especially for men, like, you know, it gets kind of shoved down and we have to be tougher. And I feel like just being able to be open about your emotions and being able to get stuff off your chest is just going to make you a lot happier and a lot, put you in a lot better space.

So that's kind of the motivation. Wholesome. Where can we get the book? Can we get it on Amazon? Amazon. Okay. So we have a ton of young parents. Get the book, Deuce the Champion of Friendship on Amazon.

Support him. Yeah. Appreciate it. No, it's, it's awesome. All right. So, our What are you nuts moment of the week? I don't know if Zach briefed you. But this is, you're walking down the city.

This is a weird place. And you're looking and you're like, what are you fucking nuts? Like what is going on here? We can go first, let you think. Or if you have one, you can go. It actually doesn't have to do with the city. Yeah. With anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With anything. Exactly did tell me. So I was, it's funny because I was watching the finals game. And, you know, shout out to former Nick, Isaiah Hartenstein, my guy. You know, congrats to him and his family. And I got to say, it's his son being sleep. Just got a championship, lifelong dream and your sleep right there on the stage.

But I know when he sees it, when he's older, he's going to, you're going to enjoy that moment. So that's my, that's my, what are you, you know. Woody a nut. That's perfect. Perfect. That's perfect. You're sleeping? Dad just want to ring. Yeah. And yeah, shout out Hartenstein. What a great player. So good. My what are you, that's moment of the week, Josh, is today I was walking my sweet Ruby five-week-old son, just got a Starbucks. All of a sudden, I see probably a guy mid-60s polo popped collar. And it's just like, what are you nuts? Like we're still popping collars, Josh. We're still popping collars. Like I just looked at when I was still rad. I was just looking at him. I'm just like, you look like such a douche. Like, Woody and Nuts, put down your collar.

It's too much. It's too much. My Woody Nuts moment of the week is, as we all know, I love a Costco. And the other day, I'm headed straight for the sample counter. And I see these beautiful little garlic toast bites of garlic bread looks so good. All of a sudden, the lady from the other sample station next door, running the next sample station next door, comes over, helps herself to a couple samples, none left for Joshie.

What are you nuts? You work here. That's nuts. These are for me. For sure. These are not for you. No, she's not buying anything. It's crazy.

It's not a sample. No, that's a buffet. Yes. Bring it to the break room. So you would have only held yourself to one? Oh, no. I would circle back. If it's good, I'll circle.

Okay. You ever get called out for circling? I remember when I was a kid, I get called out for circling. you know, Sam's Club and Costco's, I get called out like, are you've had too many? Deuce, you and I would have a good time. I think that's what's clear. Okay, we hit up a couple big box stores.

I'm in. End our day at a food court. Man, so good. Dad life. Fantastic. Absolutely. You know what else is fantastic. Josh, this podcast, Deuce McBride, new book.

Great guy. We can find you at Deuce McRide on Instagram. Yeah. Right? Okay. Doose, N's CB11. Follow Deuce, follow the Knicks. Buy the book.

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