Good Guys - A Weekend at the NRA?!
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I'm Josh Peck.
And I'm Ben Sofer.
And we're the good guys.
There's a lot of guys out there.
And we're the good ones.
Awesome worlds.
Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast.
I'm sitting here with someone who just put $100 on Diddy's books.
It's Ben Soffert.
Oh my God.
They're coming for you.
Okay.
Whoever smelt it dealt it.
It was him.
I put his $100.
He gave it to me.
I had no idea.
I had no clue.
My God, we're not talking about Ditty, but boy did that guy step in shit.
I've never met the man.
I just saw a clip of him.
Have you seen the clip of him going on Ellen, where Ellen has all of these kids on the show?
Yeah.
A lot of kids with special needs.
And all of a sudden it's like, and now here's Diddy.
Ditty walks out and all the kids are giving him hugs.
It aged so poorly.
I was watching.
I was like, oh my God.
It's like Hitler being with like 16 Jewish kindergarten students.
Should we restart the beginning of this?
What you say?
Did I start us off on a bat?
No, you start us on a great note.
We're one minute in.
We're talking about Hitler.
God, get over it.
It's been only 80 years.
I know that's what everyone's thinking.
Well, we'll never get over it.
No, well, literally never.
Like, I'm not over it.
I'm never.
I'm not fucking over it.
You know what else I'm not over, Josh?
How good you look in that sweater?
Looking just snatched to the gods.
We're here to make sure that your confidence, Josh, is sky high.
That's what we're here for, okay?
You're looking amazing with that cross leg, the flexibility in your knee.
What are you doing?
Knee exercises.
God bless you.
This is just a shirt.
It's by Aim Le And Dole, who we've talked about before.
Whoa. Whoa.
I know I've won the shit out of this shirt and they have not reached out to replenish me.
Just kidding.
I've completely bought this retail and it kills me.
It kills me.
Can I get a hookup?
That's all I do this podcast for.
Hook up, hook up, hook up, hook up.
Hook up, hook up.
And yes, if you're going to send Josh a Amy D.
Landoor, Amy D. Londore.
That sounds like the running back for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Now aim Diyondor.
Dor just
Oh, that's so good.
Oh, that's so good.
Yeah, so if Amy Leander can reach out and give us some free shit and also tell us
how to pronounce the name of your damn brand, Dame brand, damn brand.
So this is going to come out in mid-December.
So we're remiss, but I am, I want to know because we're recording this Thanksgiving week.
On Thanksgiving Day, I just give us a quick rundown of what your Thanksgiving
day is going to look like because I just want to, I want to feel like I'm there with you because I miss you.
Okay.
So here's what we're doing.
I told you this in a recent episode in case you want to get the neurologist on your brain, Josh.
Okay, because you're forgetting.
Yeah, that's right.
Baby, the tables have turned.
When did you talk about this?
Not in the last year.
You'll remember, you'll remember as I say it.
I think it was last week, Josh.
It was when we recorded our Thanksgiving episode.
What I will be doing is I will be going to pull.
And you said that that was very, very sad that I was going to polo bar for dinner and that I was going to see my parents later in the day, remember?
I did know that, but I'm talking about on a normal Thanksgiving when you're a normal person.
Backtracking.
Not a spinster.
Sure.
I'll give you my normal dream thing.
You and Claudia are lucky that you are with child because otherwise I'd be like, you two spinsters.
I really got to be with a family.
Nope, we're with family.
24-7, Josh.
24-7.
I get that.
But yes, here's my dream Thanksgiving.
I wake up in the morning I'm hosting, okay?
I'm hosting.
I want to cook.
I want to eat my food.
I don't want to go and risk Aunt Nancy preparing a dry turkey.
Okay?
You're coming over to my house.
We're going to start out with some beautiful pigs in a blanket.
Okay?
we're going to start out with maybe a nice stuffing.
We're going to start out with them thinking of more appetizers.
We're going to go with a green bean cassero.
We're going to go with some type of a sweet potato with marshmallow.
We're going to do all those.
A cranberry.
I love, I love a canned cranberry, Josh.
How do you feel about canned cranberry?
I think it's the only cranberry.
I think it's the only cranberry to cranberry.
Good.
Okay.
And I like listening to the cranberries.
Good.
Yes.
By the way, that's another one.
That could have been another good.
themed dinner. The cranberries
listening to the cranberries eating cranberries.
I wish there was a man called
chicken piccata.
Chicken piccata is fantastic.
And then Josh, all I'm going to say is you come
over to my house. We're not doing turkey.
No, we're doing duck.
We've spoken at this already, but I'm
to say it again.
But I'm sorry. We're doing duck.
I know in the musho with the pig.
pancakes and the whole thing.
I miss.
Maybe I miss queued you on all this because I wanted to know more about like, are you watching
football?
Are there any games?
Good question.
I wanted to know the overall aesthetic, not the food, because you're right.
We have talked about that.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
The aesthetic.
I'm waking up in the morning and I wanted to feel like holiday cheer.
Are you watching the parade?
We're actually going to the parade.
We're going to the parade this year.
Somebody reached out to Claudia because she's so famous and said, we're going to send you to the parade.
We're going to give you VIP seats.
We're going to send a car and we're going to watch the Thanksgiving Day parade up close.
I cannot wait.
Let me tell you, this is not a gift.
This is agony.
You are your beautiful wife and God bless her.
She is going to be so over it so quickly.
And I don't blame her because she's a beautiful baby.
you know, incubator, and she needs to be comfortable and it's going to be chilling.
And you're going to be like, oh, look, another marching band.
Totally.
And chili is right.
New York has been flirting.
It's been 50.
It's been 60.
Not on Thanksgiving Day, Josh.
It's dipping.
It's going to be horrible.
It's taken a nose dive.
So, yeah, we'll be a little bit chilly.
The earmuffs and the sweater and the puffer and the gloves.
etc. But that's what we're doing. And then yeah, we'll go home. We'll probably watch a little football,
get ready for dinner, eat dinner. And then the next day we're seeing my parents for a lovely
Thanksgiving-themed Shabbas. That sounds wonderful. I, I, you know, what are you doing? Tell me.
Tell me what O'Brien Day looks like. Do you play a little bit of tag football, a little flag football,
that's the name, two-hand touch? Wow. We play. We play.
in the turkey bowl.
There is a turkey bowl.
It's held at the Catholic school
in our neighborhood
and everybody comes
and all these
goyam,
they're chasing after each other.
These Gentiles
and their games.
They're running around
like it was Bethlehem
circa 2000 BC.
And they,
so,
but you have to remember
where I live in L.A.
is like a lot of former
NFLA.
Bell players or like college or like my brother-in-law who was a college football player.
And so I want no part of this game.
I do nothing.
I stand with the wives.
I cream cheese the bagels because they get a big sack of bagels.
And I just stand out there and I go, yes, ladies, Salt Lake Housewives is the Superior Housewives.
And while these big Gentile blokes are running around proving their manhood.
And then I'm sure I'll be on kid duty to like keep Max and shy busy for like that time between noon and three, which is like the true dead zone, which is really, really, here's my Thanksgiving issue.
I got to work out.
I have to, have to, have to work out because then I can really enjoy eating.
I can really take the breaks off and go full needle in the vein, like black.
out on apple pie. So I have to find time to hit a really, really hard workout hour minimum.
Crush it. A seven mile run maybe. I might knock out eight miles before things like it like a chewing
creatine type of workout one of those. Yeah, I'm talking full body lifts. I'm talking dead lifts. I'm
talking squatting. I'm talking hurt my body. Hurd it. Understood. Understood. And then and then. And then.
then what I'll do is around from 12 to 3, I'll make sure the kids are not in everyone's way.
And then at 3, I'm coming in and I go, these kids are now everyone else's problem.
It's time for Josh to eat.
And I'm grazing.
I'm picking.
And then we, you know, we get into the meal.
And then there's the football.
I love it all.
The smell of the winter candles and so wonderful.
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you listen to podcast. I was recently, speaking of winter candles, I was recently in a home goods,
Josh. There's a home goods. There's a home goods. I didn't even know. I went to the one in the
Hamptons over the summer. That was actually my first home goods. It was a lovely home goods. I went to an
Upper West Side home goods. How's that? Joey Kamastis is not good. I,
personally thought it was filled with holiday cheer. There was a peppermint section where you could get
anything. Peppermint bark, peppermint candy canes. You could get peppermint like dish towels that like
looked like. It was themed. It was if you wanted a Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer shaker for your beverages,
if you wanted a Santa Claus vase, they were loaded. And all I have to say is,
Home goods is a fantastic store.
I loved every minute of being in there.
And there's something about it that really just brings out that holiday cheer, holiday cheer.
Yeah, I don't want to sound like I'm ever negative about home goods because I love it.
I've just heard that within cities, like a city target.
Like, I don't want a city target.
I want a super target.
I want one that takes like two square blocks of space.
Agreed.
The targets, the Costco's, the Walmarts, all the.
that in cities, especially New York City, no good. Do you ever go to the Costco in Harlem?
I don't because it doesn't. It's exactly what you just said. It's just not it. It's just not the
same. It's just not big enough. That's right. It's just not it. But this home goods, for whatever
reason, has a lot of square footage. It's multiple floors. Nice. I thought it was a great store,
unlike what Joey Kamasta, dear friend said. The greatest. But yeah, the targets in New York. It's
It's just not a target.
It's not, you can't get lost in it.
You're not like walking in with Max and fearing that you're never going to see him again.
You're going to see him.
You'll find him.
It's not that big.
Do you ever walk out of your apartment and go, I just don't want to see anyone today?
And you don't have that choice?
Yes, absolutely.
And actually, it's funny, the last couple of mornings I've been contemplating, do I change?
Because every morning I wake up and I put in my mobile order for Starbucks and I walk to my
Starbucks. It's five blocks for my apartment. It's a nice north walk. And overall, you get a nice
10 blocks, half a mile. It's a routine of mine every morning and I love it. But I'm wearing
whatever I like threw on. I could be wearing shorts and flip flops in the winter because I'm crazy.
Yeah. Like this is just me. You're wearing toast for the day. Capri juggers. Yes, I could be
wearing anything. And I'm running into people nonstop, nonstop. And these people, I can't even
imagine what they think. This is what I wear all day long. And then I remind myself that I certainly
don't care what anybody thinks. But absolutely, I do wake up sometimes and wish that I saw nobody
that knew me. You're able to just get in your car. Well, for me, even like, I find this with basically
most of Los Angeles, you can just walk pretty much anywhere except New York or like major.
major cities, you can just get up and walk outside and like you'll see people and then there'll
be like a main drag where people will be congregating because there's coffee shops or restaurants.
But most of the residential streets, you just walk down and no one's there.
And it's kind of incredible.
It is.
On the flip side, I was just in a fantastic city, Josh.
I've been to Charleston, South Carolina before, but I've never really spent time.
I was just there.
and let me tell you,
have you been to King Street
in Charleston, South Carolina?
I've never been to Charleston
and it's on my list.
I'm dying to go.
You, Paige and the kids
would love it.
This place is amazing.
I loved it.
And quickly,
I just want to share my best bite
of the week
because it was that good,
okay?
I ate at a restaurant
on King Street
called 167 Raw,
and I am told
that their oysters
are out of this world.
I didn't eat them.
I couldn't eat them.
But I'm told that their raw bar is fantastic.
What I did eat, Josh, was three things outstanding.
A tuna tataki, which was basically a seared tuna, crusted with a nice wasabi aoli,
into a pastrami swordfish sandwich.
This was pastrami swordfish on a buttered roll with a nice sauce into an ahit tuna sandwich,
which was just seared tuna, some wasabi aoli, some cabbage, and again, a buttered
bun. Absolutely outstanding. 167 raw out of this world. Now, are you allowed to eat butter and
fish together? Is that allowable in your kosherut? It is. In anybody's koshert, it's allowable.
In anybody's. And mine, yes, is specific, but even in my specific one, in anybody's cost of
butter and fish, no problem. So dairy and fish, total green light. Dary and fish, total green light.
For your version of kosher.
For anybody's version of kosher.
Interesting.
You can have dairy and fish.
So technically, the filet of fish, oh, baby.
That is it.
Give me back that filet of fish.
Give me that fish.
Listen, every Orthodox Jewish kid I grew up with in the city,
they were banging down fish fillets like the Messiah was coming home.
He was.
That was the prize.
If you ate five of them, you could redeem a Messiah.
What?
Now, tell me.
me, though, was there a thought that the fries were cooked in beef tallow that was clearly not kosher?
Was that ever a thought?
One could absolutely think that way.
Again, for my version of kosher, I don't know what I don't see, okay?
I'm sure also when I go to the diner and I order a French onion soup that that broth is beef broth.
But could they have used vegetable broth?
Maybe I didn't ask.
They didn't tell me, I don't know.
It's so wild.
Yes.
It's so hard for me to understand.
It is wild.
It is wild.
The way that I conduct my life, Josh, is something that one day people will study.
It is interesting and it's what works for me.
Like my wife, my wife is vegan.
And so she has small allowances.
Like, she has no issue with honey, which some vegans do not mess with honey.
It's an animal byproduct.
So she doesn't mind a little honey, but that's really it.
And like, she'll ask is like this broth, a veggie broth.
Like, because the idea of eating a chicken or a beef broth is so wildly out of her realm of like, well, then I'm not vegan if this is made from the bones of a cow.
But yeah, like strict kosher Jews.
They wouldn't go to the restaurant.
They're probably, they're not even eating in the restaurant.
Right, because the plates.
If they're really strict, they're thinking to themselves, they're going to Hillstone.
Okay?
No, they're saying, even though I'm saying they won't go to Hillstone because even if they
could eat the fish, which is kosher, they know that on that same grill was probably a non-cochure
piece of steak and there could be a contaminated piece of fish that they're getting.
But even the plates, the plates aren't safe.
And the plates as well.
Correct.
Correct.
What do you think of this, Olivia?
and feel free to offend.
I'm really amazed by it because I have never existed in a world where, like, for my own life,
where I've had, like, dietary restrictions like that.
So I can't, like, imagine existing in the world comfortably and trying to follow everything
that, you know, strictly, religiously.
It's fascinating.
Everything to me would be too difficult for me to lead what I'm.
I feel is a fulfilled life.
And so where it all comes from, eating is my happy place.
And if I couldn't go to restaurants, that would make me sad.
That said, does my rather lax pick and choose way of looking at it create the opportunity
for an even more relaxed version down the road?
Yes.
Like once you start peeling back layers, you're like, oh, you know, why don't I just peel another
and peel another and peel another.
It's definitely something that I struggle with, for sure.
But it helps me.
It helps me to feel connected by doing the best I can.
That's what mine is.
That's fair.
Is it fair?
I think it's fair.
I agree.
It's fair.
I mean, obviously, like, if you're Muslim, there's halal.
The Jews have kosher.
I'm trying to think of if there's like, I guess the Catholics, right?
They abstain from eating, like, during Lent, don't they,
Do no meat.
Isn't there like nine days of fun for the Catholics?
There's some things.
Buddhists don't eat meat at all.
Like, do Buddhists not eat meat?
Hindus don't eat cow.
Yeah, no meat.
Like they're vegetarians.
Right.
I think religions, religions typically come with a set of diet,
like strict religions come with a set of dietary laws that were put in place to keep people alive
at a time where we didn't understand.
things. And I like to think to preserve like really smart animals. I know, not everybody agrees
with that, but like not eat like somebody with a big brain, which is why I wouldn't want
to eat octopus. And yeah, the main thing is not, like people are not getting sick. Like,
you wouldn't eat like shellfish because you didn't know how to clean it. But now, I don't
know. Do, like, could, could one say that you could eat shellfish? Probably because we know
how to clean it. We know how to not get sick from it. Like, yeah, I don't know. Except my friend
got food poisoning from a cockle in Spain. What even is a cockle? Olivia? What is a cockle?
I'm Googling it. I have no idea what a cockle is, but yeah, I don't know. This whole experimenting.
All I know is you don't. You don't want to have winter cockle. That's for sure. No, you don't. No, you
don't. It's an edible marine bivalve mollus. Unnecessary.
It's like the standard seashells you see at the beach, whatever lives inside of those.
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Like Josh, is somebody who eats a nice fried calamar.
Yes.
You don't look at like, have you seen my octopus teacher?
Well, it's not, calamari's not octopus.
It's squid.
Okay.
You eat octopus?
I love it.
Oh, do I love it?
So let's go with that one.
You see my octopus teacher and you see how this octopus formed a real heartfelt relationship
with the scuba diver.
And you're not like-
You're a hypocrite because it's every animal.
Every animal is virtuous.
Every, ever, those cows deserve better than to be eaten by you and me.
Agreed that they deserve better, but there is no argument that you can make that says that cows are as smart or as aware of their reality and of pain as an octopus.
That's your rationale.
I would say, I understand the defense not as smart.
I could totally see that.
But they have a soul.
They are a living creature.
But there's a food.
But there's a food.
And they feel like they certainly feel pain.
They absolutely feel pain, which is why we try to eliminate most of it when we kill them.
But yes, I agree with you.
I don't think it's a, I don't think it's necessarily hypocrisy, but I do, I'm simply pointing out that I think that certain animals that are really smart just shouldn't be eaten.
That's my personal belief.
It doesn't mean you have to believe that.
But that's how I choose to view pigs.
I have heard that they're very, very smart.
and I've heard that when they're kept in these tiny pig pens,
that they end up getting a lot of anxiety.
But I know that you could also say that when a cow is just milked for a living
and the teeth are about to fall off, I get it.
You're right.
Look, what we will agree on is that big cow, big anything is bad.
This big energy for the animals, no good.
Listen, nothing could have a more anxious lifestyle than a chicken.
you've never eaten a relaxed chicken, okay?
I've seen these chicken.
It's not cute.
It's like they all live in studio apartments in New York.
It's horrible.
They're cooped up.
They're cooped up.
Look, my whole thing is I, and I'm glad that I don't have, you know, even though I've
obviously had my issues with food and being overweight, thankfully, like I don't really
have a food addiction and I don't have a sex addiction, which are the two things.
that really are real that I personally would think are so challenging because you cannot
abstain, right? Like, I don't do anything that affects me from the neck up. That's it. I drink some
caffeine, but other than that, like, and that's it. Like, when I swore off drugs and alcohol,
it was complete. And unless I'm having a surgery and it's necessary and prescribed by a doctor,
And even then I have to get honest between me and God because it's like they sometimes prescribe you enough for, you know, 10 days of pain when the reality is after like day two, you're not really in pain anymore.
So, you know, I have to be really careful with that stuff.
So it's hard and no big surprise.
I'm an alcoholic.
So I have a very like all or nothing attitude.
So I guess it's hard for me to rationalize like why one animal gets special treatment as opposed to these.
other when it's just like either do it or don't. But I hear you. I understand when you say by doing
the best that I can, it makes me feel more connected. I think that's fair. I think that's realistic.
And on the on the animal piece, I'm never going to not eat animals. I love the way they taste.
They're delicious. Absolutely delicious. But I would love to one day be wealthy enough as I think
you would as well.
Like, it would be the absolute dream to be able to somehow live off of my own farm.
Like, to not have to deal with these animals that are being mistreated, to not know what is
really happening behind the scenes, the access to meat, the sort of inability to process
how, like, much the animal needed to go through to land on my plate.
I do think that is a big problem.
and in the future, I would love to personally solve it for myself,
where when I eat a big juicy steak,
I'm not just thinking in gluttony,
but I'm thinking an animal sacrifice their life
so I could have this big juicy steak.
Like, do you know what I'm saying?
Like, there's, I would love to get to that place.
And that's why people actually, people find hunters.
Because, and I think for the most part, like,
I'm going to, I'm going to preface this.
There's two different types of hunters.
But I think that the type of hunter that's going out there hunting for their food.
Sorry to.
to interrupt, but when you see two types, let's not even count big game hunters. Those people are
pieces of shit. Pieces of shit. Okay, good. So put them to the side. That that type of person,
the person that's hunting for no reason, the person that he's or poaching or awful. I hope they
rot in hell. Skull. D. Yes. The person that is going out and hunting for their dinner has a far
better appreciation for the animal than we do. Yeah. Because even though,
We're not killing them.
We're eating them.
We're relying on somebody else doing our dirty work.
And by the way, it's far less painless for a deer to be shot in the woods than it is for a deer to be spending eternity with its brothers and sisters only to be walked into some, not gas chamber, but you get my point.
It's not ideal.
The idea of hunting for your food being very aware of what you're doing, shooting with a purpose.
Eating with a purpose, cleaning with a purpose, I think is a far better way to eat meat.
And I wish I could do it.
Dude, think about my father-in-law hunts with a bow because he don't think guns are fair.
He don't think it's fair.
He doesn't think that if you're hundreds of yards away and that that animal can't even smell you,
they don't even have a shot to run away, right?
because you're so far away, they're not going to drift of your pheromones of your odors of your
Odu, Ben, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I do.
You're literally blasting their head off with a 50 cow from a thousand yards away.
Not cool.
With a bow, you have to be within 60 yards.
So that means you got the work that you have to put in and it's got to be a perfect shot, right?
because a true hunter would never risk a shot that wasn't an instant kill
because then that animal is going to suffer,
or it's just going to get hit and not die and run off with this injury.
So you have to be so skilled to be able to get close.
And I don't know, we're not sponsored by Cabela's over here.
This isn't Bass Pro brought to you by Bass Pro Shops,
but it's pretty compelling.
No, but it takes like a really introspective person,
to think, like, hunting seems so barbaric,
but it is so not barbaric in comparison to big meat.
Big meat is barbaric.
Hunting is one for one, getting it, cleaning it, saving it, eating it.
Like, that process is so much more spiritual than the idea of just going and buying Purdue,
where they are killing a million animals,
second while we sit here and wait for it to show up at the grocery store. So I think that if you
think hunting is barbaric, you're thinking of the wrong type of hunting. We're talking about hunting for
food. And if you're hunting for food, I actually think that the animal probably appreciates it more.
And if everybody were to have done that, we'd kill a lot less animals and we'd eat a lot less
meat. Oh, and by the way, if you took down an elk and stripped it down or a deer or something of that
size and you stripped it down and froze all the meat, that's enough meat for your family of five
for an entire one year. So one elk fed your whole family for a year. About. I mean, it depends on
how much you're eating, but it's hundreds of pounds of meat. Yeah. Yeah. For us, it's a weekend.
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Should we get to a story?
Yeah.
God, I just love how thoughtful we are.
You know what?
Screw the stories.
Let's get to a speak pipe because we got some good ones and I want to make sure we listen to them.
Okay.
This first one is from Anonymous.
What's up, morons?
Major Moron and Toaster here.
My almost 36-year-old boyfriend's dad pays most of his bills.
What are you?
Nuts.
We've been together for over two years.
Olivia, this is not nice to say about Ethan.
My mortgage and utilities and stuff like that.
And he's working on paying him.
off some credit cards from when he was, quote, young and dumb.
But can I just get a guy's perspective on this?
He thinks I'm just not being patient as far as getting his shit taken care of.
But I look at it like he needs a better job because his currently can't afford his bills.
I would like to start a life with him and this just isn't cutting it.
Thanks.
This is tough.
36 is tough.
36 is tough.
The truth is, I think he, I think this.
boy needs a little bit of tough love.
It sounds like he needs either tough love from you or tough love from his family.
It sounds like he's a really wonderful support system that he's kind of taken for granted,
right, like, and has kind of led him to this place where he knows that like, regardless of what
credit card bills he runs up, somebody's always going to be there, you're going to be there,
parents are going to be there, somebody's going to bail him out.
And until he feels like there's nobody to bail out, why would he get another job?
Why would he earn more money?
Why would he be fearful?
He wouldn't be because he's living in comfort.
So it takes a lot for you to sort of change the trajectory of this.
But my recommendation would be some tough love, which is like, look, I do love you.
But if you don't change your ways and get a better job or whatever it is that you want him to do, I'm out.
Would that be a turn off for you, Olivia?
Yeah, it would be.
Like, again, 36 is tough people, you know, figure their shit out in different times.
But it just seems like a lack of accountability for his own lifestyle.
And I think he'd be a great guest on the financial audit show if you've ever heard of that.
Hmm.
I love it.
I haven't.
Sounds amazing.
Yeah.
Like a guy that basically just bullies people into having better spending habit.
No, I don't want it.
Keep him away from me.
Yeah.
I mean, I've never had any, you know, I've been supporting myself since I was 16,
so I don't know what it is to have any kind of safety net,
but it's cool when I see like, it's so different.
But like obviously when I see my wife and her family able to treat the family to,
you know, a beautiful big vacation or, you know, like some nice gifts and stuff.
Like, that's lovely.
And look, I know some kind of.
couples like in their 40s where the parents can do it and they give the family like a thousand
bucks a month like the grandparents are happy to do it they they want to spend the money before
they're gone and they know that maybe the the family doesn't make as much and so that the kids
can do extracurriculars and fun things so I think there's a balance to it but I think it's probably
part of a bigger problem to your point like that it would be imperative for him to like kind
of have a really come to Jesus moment about where he's at and what he's got to do going forward.
To clarify my comment, because you said something that I think is important, I'm not against
parents or grandparents giving money to their kids. If you have it, that's awesome.
Yeah. Like, I'm not judging somebody taking extra money or presents or vacations or that's
awesome. If you can do it, do it. And I hope to be able to do it.
do it one day with my kids, grandkids, et cetera.
And when my parents pay for dinner or something, like, I'm so thankful, like, beyond.
But there's a difference to me between using the money to pay off a credit card bill just
like shows financial instability at 36.
It isn't like a gift.
That's right.
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Next one is from Anonymous.
Hi, good guys.
I just finished a little staycation with a guy I've been talking to.
We had a lot of fun.
We stayed in a hotel for two nights, went to dinners, hung out, chit-chatted, watch movies.
Anyway, he is super respectful, like a little too respectful for me.
When it came to canoodling, like, he wasn't really, like, didn't want to initiate a lot.
like didn't want to do anything like more than once like was more so like taking it slow and
I guess I'm used to guys that like are completely disrespectful and don't take it slow is that normal
like now that we're getting older like that we want to like slow down and be respectful of girls
and like I don't know not like jump their bones all the time let me know not like does he like me
Does he not like me?
He did text me.
He had a good time.
So we'll see.
I've never heard that expression, jump your bones.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
I didn't see this coming.
I thought that she was just like playing coy.
Like,
and they obviously like canoodled the whole time.
I think it's a little bit strange to invite somebody on a staycation,
stay in the same hotel room and not initiate the nasty.
Like I think that's sort of like the purpose of it.
Like if you wanted to take it slow,
you don't get a hotel room with that person.
Like hotel rooms are green light.
And I don't know.
Seems like maybe he's a little bit insecure.
Maybe he doesn't think that it's what you want.
Maybe he is getting some signals from you that you're not interested in.
He's just a lovely, hopefully listens to the good guys, gentle good guy and is waiting for the signal from you.
But if he organized a staycation in a hotel room, he 100% wanted to canoodle.
There's nothing like missionary at a day's in.
Am I right, y'all?
Did you run into Jay Leno at that holiday is?
Oh, that's what happened to Jay Leno.
He tried to have sex with her and the boyfriend beat this shit out of Jay Leno.
Clearly.
Push him down a hill.
What do you think, Olivia?
Yeah, I was just sitting back here trying to gather my thoughts.
And the only way that I could really see this in my mind's eye is like if he's
He's the kind of guy that like, let's say he slept around with a bunch of girls and he can't make
the distinction between like casual sex and a relationship.
And therefore he's like, maybe he really likes her and pumped the brakes on doing anything like
too much, I guess.
That's all that I could kind of surmise there.
Otherwise, it does seem a little stale for a staycation at a hotel.
Yeah.
I think it requires the question.
I'm interested to know.
and Olivia, please help inform me and the audience and good guys everywhere.
Over the last 10 years, hopefully we've seen that to her point or caller's point,
like men, some men, many men had a bad habit of being disrespectful and pushy and just putting
people in uncomfortable situations and it was unacceptable, right?
And so living in this new world, if you're trying to be a good guy and you don't
ever want to come off sort of
overdoing it in any way or
making someone uncomfortable. Is it
incumbent on
the woman to give more signals
to kind of
what would you say? I don't want to lead
you. Yeah. I
think that it is like a bit of
a dance, I'd say,
but at the end of the day and I
mean obviously when it comes to consent, that's
like a whole, I mean, that's a huge conversation
and a huge part of it. But assuming
We're having.
But, you know, with both parties, like being down, I feel like, I don't know.
I feel like if you're in that moment, you can usually tell where it's headed or like you're dropping hints, etc.
Like you're sitting a little closer.
You're brushing your hands together, you know, a little hand on the leg.
I don't know.
But I, so I don't know.
I feel like sometimes when the verbiage is placed to it, it can take you out of the moment a little bit.
But I don't know.
I feel like there are several nonverbal or, you know, joking or not joking, but you know what I mean,
like ways to kind of bring it up without it being like, let's get to it now.
Like booking a hotel room?
Yeah, exactly.
Like that to me is the ultimate green light.
Yeah.
You agreed to sleep in a hotel room with him.
Like, that's it.
Yeah, but you got to feel out the chemistry in the room too, you know?
Sure.
Like, you got to take that into consideration.
But with that being said, like, you know, if there's chemistry there, then, like, kind of
figure it out.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know why you didn't go for it.
Like, I remember when I was first starting to date, I asked a girl.
I was like, can I kiss you?
And she was like, well, that makes it weird.
And I was like, noted.
I was like, gotcha.
Like, what you just said, Olivia, like, sometimes verbalizing and can take, take you out
of the moment.
And so I kind of like tried to be aware of signs and signals.
And worst case was kind of like,
ah, maybe you went in and the person kind of said, no thanks.
And you were like, cool, I'm going to go drive off the Verrazano.
You know what I mean?
It actually, coming full circle sounds like you're with a lovely gentleman
who is respectful.
And while he may not be rushing to bag your bones,
was that what it was?
What was the Japanese?
Bag your bones is murder.
Well, he's not in a rush to jump your bones.
You know, maybe it's good.
Because the second he jumps your bones,
maybe all he's going to want to do is jump your bones.
So maybe enjoy the time now.
But did you hear they did hook up?
That's the part that confuses me.
He just only, they only did it once over two nights, which is crazy.
Wait, wait, wait.
Are you sure she used the word hook?
Like, are you sure they didn't just mean make out?
No, they did canoodle.
Should we listen again?
Yeah. Roll the tape.
What?
This whole time they had sex.
Hi, good guys.
More on here.
So I'm calling for advice on how to get out of the roommate phase.
Oh, wait.
No, this is the wrong one.
Hold on.
Here we go.
One more.
Hi, good guys.
I just finished a little staycation with a guy I've been talking to.
We had a lot of fun.
We stayed in a hotel for two nights, went to dinners,
hung out, chit-chated, watch movies.
Anyway, he is super respectful.
Like a little too respectful for me.
When it came to like canoodling, like he wasn't really like and didn't want to initiate a lot.
Like didn't want to do anything like more than once.
Like was more so like taking it.
Okay.
Do anything more than once.
Okay.
This changes everything.
Sorry.
This changes everything.
Okay.
Now I feel as though my advice was, was wrong.
I think he might just not be that into you.
Like, you're in a hotel.
You guys clearly sound like you were liquored up.
Booz hounds.
Enjoying your time.
I don't know.
Like, it's either that or like, no, I think it's that.
I think he's just not that into you.
Maybe you have bad breath.
Oh, my God.
This poor girl, this is not 20 seconds ago.
She was like, this guy is such a good guy.
I'm going to marry him.
And now she has bad breath.
This speak pipe has been brought to you by Listerine.
Oh my gosh.
Pop a Listerine.
As a friend of mine once said,
sex should be a celebration of your love.
And if you guys aren't having sex,
maybe there's nothing to celebrate.
Whoa.
Whoa.
That's good.
Holy question.
crap. That was a...
Woo.
No, that was...
That was profound as hell.
Don't I know it?
Profound as hell.
Hell yeah. And that guy had his hand on my thigh when he said that.
All right. So now, loob up, Josh.
Lube up.
We'll do one more...
One more speakpipe. By the way, if you want to leave us to speakpipe, get our advice.
Go to speakpipe.com slash good guys.
Keep it brief.
Brevity is key. Let's hear from, oh, this is going to be a good one. I can feel it.
Let's hear from sexy marriage.
Hi, Ben and Josh. Ben muzzle on the baby announcement.
Josh, muzzle for everything. Okay. I'm going to get to the point. I am in my mid-30s and I am married to a man in his early 50s.
And we have been together for 15 years and we have been married for 11 of those 15.
for years. And we have a very nice life. We're very blessed, like in a regular middle class way,
but we're very blessed. We have children. We do all the normal stuff. We have a nice life.
I always thought if I married an older man, which I always knew I would, I always fancied an
older gentleman, that the sex would die off, the older he got. And here's the thing. It hasn't.
He would have sex with me every day if I wanted to, and probably won't come as a shock.
I don't want to have sex every day. I'm thinking, and he's, and he, he's, and he, he's, and he
obviously on a different page. So here's my question. What's normal for your average couple?
And what's normal for your average couple with the man in his 50s? I want to put,
I want you to put yourselves into the 50 year old mindset. What are we thinking? Am I being unreasonable?
Let me know. Okay. When I'm 50, I'm going to be on so much fucking TRT. It's going to be every
hour. Yeah, it could be. I was thinking that too, Josh. Like, is he, he could be juicing,
which is why he's so interested.
But do I think that it's normal for a woman in her mid-30s being married 11 years
and a guy in his mid-50s being married 11 years to have sex every single day?
No, but I think that it's really nice that he's so attracted to you.
Like I would take that win.
That's awesome.
Yeah, because sometimes like magic and fade, that's, you should feel great about yourself.
That said, you can say, honey, I'm a little sore.
Let's take a beat.
And if he reacts in a way that isn't like, okay, no problem, maybe he's a sex addict.
And also a booze hound.
Yeah, I mean, apparently you were playing the long game, hon, and it didn't work out.
Because she thought he'd be dead.
Totally.
And it's interesting because my buddy.
once, and granted he's only 38, and by this I mean my friend Len, he once asked his doctor about
TRT and all these things, and his doctor said to him, well, are you, you know, do you have a real
sexual attraction to your wife? Like, are you, like, do you wake up? Do you have energy? How do you get
the workouts? And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, totally attracted to my wife,
you know, want to be with her as much as she'll allow me to be. And he's like, I think your testosterone's
fine.
I know there's experts who are listening who all want us to go get checked for our hormones.
I get it.
But I think there's that level of virility within reason just is probably why you're still
attracted to your 50-something golden gilf of a husband that he's like, you know, like he wants
to, he's a dude still.
He's got it coursing through his veins.
He hasn't given up yet.
Sounds like he works out.
Sounds like he eats right.
Sounds like a great guy.
Good for you.
He's got summer penis.
Oh, I'm kidding.
Yeah.
Good for you.
Honestly.
Good for you.
I think these are far more positives than negatives.
There are far more positives than negatives from this story.
Agreed.
Agreed.
This episode's going to get demonetized on YouTube.
Should we get to our What Are You Nuts?
Yes.
Yes, we should.
Would you like me to go first?
Yes.
Our What are You Nuts moment of the week are gripes with people,
places and things, things big and small, sticking in our craw, Ben, go for it.
So I mentioned that I was recently in South Carolina. I was there for the wonderful launch
of Sprit Society with our friend Craig Conover. He was on the podcast. We had a great time.
We did a meet and greet, or we did two meet and greets, Josh. One was at a liquor store.
And often at these meet and greets, our lovely morons, our lovely toasters, they'll come and they
will give me the occasional gift, right? And I want to note this one gift that I was given,
was given, she handed it to me. She said, here's a hand-painted ornament, okay? It was a seashell
to put on my Christmas tree. She said, here's a hand-painted ornament for you during the
holiday season. I painted Theo on it. What are you nuts? You're giving me a hand-painted seashell
ornament of my dead dog to put on the Christmas tree that I don't own. You made me cry at the
meet and greet. You were number three. I don't own a Christmas tree. It's the least considerate
gift I've ever gotten. What do you nuts? You're a bad.
guy. No, I'm not. Olivia, that's nuts, right? That's nuts. It's just so unfortunate on so many levels.
An ornament of a dead pet. Are you crazy? Are you crazy?
And also have a seashell. Who puts seashells on? You put a seashell on your Christmas tree?
No. You'd be surprised. There are people out there.
I was surprised to receive a painting on a seashell of my dead dog that I'm supposed to put on my fictitious Christmas tree.
Speaking of dead things, this reminds me of a speak pipe that we now have to listen to because you teed it up perfectly.
This is from Anonymous.
Hey, good guys.
A huge moron slash toaster.
Love you guys so much.
I have a what are you nuts for you that I think you guys are going to love.
I recently went to one of my friends, her was her grandmother.
who had passed away. And first of all, I'm a fellow Jew myself, so I am not at all familiar with
open caskets. I don't think I've actually ever been to an open casket until this. And it was interesting.
Let me tell you. So I arrived, and I guess the grandmother loved Chick-fil-A and was a die-her-chik-fil-A fan.
and I guess chick play was special there.
I'm not really sure.
But around the cask or around, you know, the open casket was tables set up chick-file meals
and like catered chick-fly, like surround, like a perimeter surrounding the open casket.
So that way when you went to get your chick-fly, you paid your respects to Granny at the same time.
So that was pretty woody.
nuts to me.
What are you saying?
That's insanity.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
What are you nuts?
Stupid.
So funny.
I'm thankful that I thought that she was going to say that they put like a couple
of chicken sandwiches in the casket.
Like in a tomb.
That's not going to age well.
Like a tomb so that she brings it up with her.
That's not going to eat age well in there.
Oh, my.
God.
Josh.
They use grandma as the sauce table.
And she's naked.
I'll just grab some Polynesian.
Love you, Grandma, Irene.
Oh my God.
It's like one of those when you have like a sushi platter over a woman's body.
You just pull the chick filet sandwich right off of grandma's dead breasts.
Okay.
Perfect.
It's perfect.
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