Good Guys - Ben has a big announcement! (That we didn’t talk about)

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

Mazel Morons! Welcome to another topical episode! The biggest news of the day is Ben and Claudia are expecting another baby!!! And naturally, we didn’t talk about it. However, we DID talk about smoking weed, getting sober, and Yom Kippur.  Then, the history of AA, Josh is NOT Jeffrey Epstein’s son, and strip club escargot.  What are ya nuts?! Love ya! Write us! Send your messages to [e-mail]  Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: Ready to give your liver the support it deserves? Head to dosedaily.co/GOODGUYS or enter GOODGUYS to get 35% off your first subscription. If you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit/GOODGUYS and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join. To find delicious recipes and learn more about the antioxidant goodness of POM Wonderful, please go to pomwonderful.com. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code GOODGUYS for up to 20% off home and sleepwear. Go to IM8HEALTH.com/goodguys RIGHT NOW or click on the link in the description and use code goodguys for a Free Welcome Kit, five free travel sachets, plus ten percent off your order Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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back to the Good Guys podcast. Josh, I've been thinking over the last 24 hours. I don't like when you think. Do you think that there are women out there that are breastfeeding themselves? It's amazing what you don't get in trouble for and what you do. Do you think that there are women out there breastfeeding themselves? Could that work, like that loop, like drinking your own pee if you were like on a shipwreck, like would that hydrate you?

I don't know the, I don't know exactly what's in urine and if it would be hydrating. It's mostly, it's mostly water. What I do know is that breast milk is caloric and fills a baby's belly. So why wouldn't it fill the mama? Should she want to just flip a titty and take a quick tug? Flip a titty and take a zippy. What? Dude, oh my God.

What an opening. That's it. We're getting flagged on YouTube. I hope. I hope we do. Oh, man. Could you imagine we start the pot like this and we just get a call from Bob Kraft being like, you can never perform at Gillette Stadium talking like this?

Oh, my God. Yeah, I guess you could. And, you know, it's some colostrum. I guess maybe that's just when right after some. someone gives birth, but there's a colostrum, which is like the most nutrient-dense thing there is. I think you can. I just wonder if somebody is. It's kind of like living off of the land. It's like you're a farmer, but your body is the farm. I don't know. These are the things that I think about. And I wasn't even high. I just, this is just how my brain works. What if one day Claudia

looked at you and Sweet Rubin has been asleep and everything is fine? And you guys are, You know, it's late at night. You've ripped through a couple apps of glee. And Claudia Lutzyne says, honey, my love, my Bershert, let's rip a doobie. Let's just spark a blunt. What do you think that? What do you think about that? I would love it.

Really? Yeah, I would. There's nothing that I would love more than doing that with her. Now, not with her. It would give me anxiety. But with her, it would be great. Even though like the last time I think we smoked weed together was over a decade ago. And I remember her bugging out and yelling at me.

And then I started bugging out. So I don't know if she could do it. But let's say that nobody bugged out. Yeah, that would be so fun. Just like rip a joint, order some ice cream. Get into a nice deep snooze. It would be great. I would love that.

I'd love to rip a joint with you. Forget all the problems that come with it. Pretend that doesn't exist. Sure. Me and you sitting there, just cheeto dust on our fingers, maybe playing a little FIFA. Just, this is,

you know what we missed out on, Josh? What? Do you understand? That's what we missed out on. Right. I know. What? That's what we missed out on.

I'm telling you, bro, there was a guy that my boy used to go to school with, and he was an overweight fella. And boy, did he like to get stoned and eat the fast food Jack in the Box? And he would play FIFA and he would be slamming down burgers all stone from Jack in the Box and he'd be like, yo, this is the business. Bro, Jack in the Box is the business, I mean. I mean, it's a really, you're really. It's a really beautiful life.

Very simple. Very simple. I was always, I could never do it. Were you ever a wake and bake person? Whenever I heard somebody, they're like, yeah, I'd smoke and I'd go to work. I'm like, you would smoke and function? What? You would have gotten there.

You think so? Tics practice. It's like being able to eat through when you're on speed, right? When you realize you can eat, you do. Shout out my boy, Jaime. Jaime was a fat tweaker, and I was like, that's a professional. When you can eat on tweak, there's levels to this game, dog. I guess it's all about conquering the mind.

You can smoke and go do something. I just couldn't. I would smoke I'd fall asleep. That's why unfortunately, or fortunately, I really couldn't smoke that often. It would have to be, I would get like the most severe hangover just from like a couple of hits of weed. I'd wake up the next day. I couldn't do anything. Worse than alcohol?

No, no, no, no. But like my friends that smoked didn't have this same hangover the next day. They were like, what are you talking about? I feel great. I slept amazing. I feel awesome. And it's like, no, like I would need to like smoke on a Saturday night knowing that on Sunday morning I didn't have anything to do.

But I couldn't smoke on a Thursday night if I had to function Friday morning. I am baffled when I hear. And that's why I really do believe that it's a version of medicinal for Seth Rogan. And he's been so vocal. Like I think he basically says. He smokes every day. He writes his best on it. He's smoking all day every day.

And I think like it's got to be medicinal because to be that productive, I like, I think I could smoke weed and have like and, you know, have a car washing business, not drive. Not drive the cars. But like, you know, like something where it was clear. But if I had to be creative or I would never want to act stoned. But if you gave me like, if I could work at a Westfield shopping center, all stoned up and be like mopping outside of Eclare's accessories as I like, you know, give a pointer fingers to like a couple teens walking by and be like,

so up fellas. That would, podcast in my ear, chicken terriaki at the food court for lunch, kind of a dream. It does sound like it certainly makes the mundane more fun. So that I definitely get. I think my brain's just wired differently. Like the creative piece, he's just, a pro, I guess. He's a pro smoker. He's, I don't know. He must need it. He's got a, he probably would have to take medication if he wasn't using it for whatever he's using it for. That's what I was

thinking. Like when you are addicted to anything and you're a functioning addict and you try and go off it, you're fucked. Like I would assume that the same thing would happen, even though he clearly, he seems to be living a great life and he doesn't need to go off it. But a functioning addict is is screwed if they have to go off it, right? Yeah, I mean, he doesn't, it clearly is not impeding him. I mean, if he could be more formidable and successful without it, he would be, you know, I don't think he can get much bigger or more successful. He's a giant as far as a writer-performer goes.

Like he's kind of the, I don't know, like the Chris Nolan of his field. Like, who else could you compare him to? No, he's a comedic genius. And just the level of success he's had from the boys and now the studio to the movies to the TV directing. Like, he's crushed it. But all that being said, Aaron Sorkin famously talked about how he didn't really do drugs growing up. And then he was 25. He was writing a few good men.

Did you know Aaron Sorkin wrote a few good men? I didn't. Yeah. You can't handle the truth. Wow. And it was originally a play. And he said he's writing it and he was dating this girl. And she offered him a join and he always said no.

But then he finally said yes. And then a couple hours later, she started, you know, cutting up some lines. The Devil's Dandruff. He said, and I did that. And it seemed as though I had written the rest of a few good men in one night. Wow. he's like and from then on I basically just you know assumed that it was my superpower to get me to finish and write well and he said when I got sober and was just starting he said the great

carrie fisher called me who's a you know uh RIP but a brilliant writer and actor and she said I know your biggest fear is that you can't write without it she's like but you're going to be better you will write better without it I promise you. And he said she was right. But it did take getting over that hurdle of having to almost relearn it. So I don't know what the answer is. I think usually people are talented in spite of their addiction, not because of it.

But I think that we benefited from Jim Morrison doing a bunch of acid and writing, Come on, baby, light my fire over it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it can have its place for creative people. Not this creative. No, it's just a slippery slope. I'm sorry to take the podcast in like a slightly dark direction, but rest in peace,

Presley Gerber. One of the saddest things I've heard in like a very long time. Horrible. And I won't say that I'm close with Randy, but I have met him before. He's really nice, a great family. And to just hear. what happened to his son, off the heels of a Hayden Panetteer, off the heels,

I just, I just feel like I'm not, I'm not in Hollywood whatsoever. Ever like I'm far away. You're sort of, not sort of, you're in it. And I just wonder,

like people are always, I want to be famous. I want to be in that circle. I want to, I want to be there. And I just, like, what happens there?

that it seems like people just, it seems like there's more of these types of stories that come out of that part of the world than others. Is that fair to say? I don't think so. I know why you're saying it, and I think a lot of people assume that, but I just think it's heavily documented

and there's a spotlight on it. And it's also just so much more rare, but go to Skid Row, go to anywhere, where addicts hang out and it's littered with thousands of people from every walk of life. You know what I mean? So that's fair. So perhaps it's just the addict in Louisiana. We just didn't make front page news.

That makes sense. But we love talking about these things, especially as it relates to somebody who was better than others. That makes sense. Okay. I just like, I was thinking, like, is it like something going on? over there. Is it just, but yeah, regardless, unbelievably sad. I was very sad to hear it.

It's what I always say when people, which is, I think it's the funniest battle, when people will publicly, you know, criticize 12-step and its efficacy or any other resource in which that helps you get sober, whether it's, you know, Ibogain, whether it's finding religion, whether there. There's many ways to get sober. I've heard it said once, there's no wrong way to get sober. The only wrong way is to do it alone. And I'm, you know, my hat is off to anyone who finds any method that gives them relief

because addiction is winning. It has for millennias. 95% of people will lose the battle to addiction. They'll either live long, crappy lives or sadly they will, you know, God forbid, overdose. or, you know, wind up in jails and institutions. And so it's, you know, my heartbreaks for the Gerber family and precisely seem like an amazing guy. And sadly, I've seen a lot of my friend Stephen passed away earlier this year

from something similar. And so if you can find any version of sobriety that works for you, God bless you because the efficacy of all these things have about like a 5% you know curative rate and and it's you know it's something that I'll sometimes say

at a meeting I'll be like you know we're all just a bunch of boring old A.A. miracles but we are like it's a fucking miracle when you look at the numbers there's an old adage of like if everyone who'd ever been to a meeting stayed we'd have to have them at the Coliseum

you know but instead we're in church basements with crappy coffee and cookies that I bring and I bring the good ones I sometimes bake um you know we're not doing these kebler cookies okay we're doing nice by the way shout out kebler delicious it's delicious but sometimes they get the generic cookies it tastes like I don't know what it hydrox whatever get the Oreos it's not that much charge it to the meeting well I'll throw an extra dollar in the basket um but yes uh um shout out and rest in peace to Presley. What about, you know, this is, I'm dying to know. And we all, the message boards have been lit up about Ben.

Tell us about your Yom Kipper experience. We're dying to know. My Yom Kipper experience was deeply moving, very hard, very hard. It was the hardest ever for me. But it was meaningful. The Yom Kipper fast, just so everybody knows. is the Day of Atonement on the Jewish calendar. Yeah, explain it for people how it comes after the New Year.

Christians get to go in any time, say, three Hail Marys, I believe it is. Talk to somebody in atone for their sins. Well, they go to, Catholics go to confession on Sundays. Yep. We get one day a year. Our one day a year is on Yom Kippur. And what it essentially is, is we are not only apologizing for our past, but we're apologizing for our future selves.

Oh, is that so Jewish? Let me, let me, you know what? I'm going to do a prepay. We do. We do. Literally, it is, we are saying we are imperfect, and we are going to mess up over the next 12 months between now and Yom Kippur again.

We are human, we are sorry, and we are going to do our best. And, uh, uh, uh, uh, The difference this year was I woke up at 6.30 with my sweet boy and I took him on a three mile walk. Nice. Why did I do that? Because it's what I do on Saturday mornings. It's what I do. I love walking with him.

I love taking him to the park. I love taking him to the water. It's the way that my EDD brain passes time. But it was treated like it was a day off is what I meant. Gotcha. Like my Saturdays, my Sundays are, I don't have work. I wake up and I just walk with Ruby. Maybe we'll go, like nothing's open.

We'll go to the park, whatever. And I was off that day. My phone was off fasting. So I started my day with a three mile walk with Ruby. I got home. I looked at Claudium. I'm like, oh my God. I am fucking exhausted.

I then went to synagogue, was there from 10 to 12, went back at 4.30. The great Jessica Tisch, if you. you guys don't know Jessica Tisch, New York City Police Commissioner. What a badass woman. She spoke at my synagogue. Just an amazing woman. And then my synagogue did something almost unforgivable. The fast ends, Josh, at 738.

And now people, by the way, no judgment. People break whenever. If you fast for a minute, if you fast for 25 hours, whatever it is, it's not the point of how long you go. It's whatever works for you. This year, I wanted to just do it by the letter of the law. So I was like, okay, I'm going to break at 7.38. 738 comes and goes Josh we didn't get out of there until 745 wow i was sitting next to my dad

we're waiting for the shofar to blow the showfar this might sound antiquated it is a ramshorn that we blow and uh it signifies only good things and that happens at the end and i'm looking at it just came out to me so i blew that rams horn And Woo, we. Some people like a bear. I like a ram. And I'm looking at my dad.

I'm like, we should go with 6.30. I'm like, we should go. We're going to break the fast, bagel locks, cream cheese, Claudius home, whatever. We should go. My dad's like,

no, I want to hear the show far. We're almost there. We're only 40 pages away. I'm like, okay, well, wait. 40 pages. Josh, 40 pages, I thought 30 minutes, okay? We get to it, okay? The shofar blows on page 765.

It's page 764. You know what they do? Go to 780. They skipped it. They then did the whole, it's called Marv, like an ending service because they knew that the second that they blow that show far, everybody's going to leave.

So they did it, and then they came back to it. At 7.45. I got home probably 8 o'clock. lock, eight, three bagels, had two donuts. Literally, I'm burping in front of company. I go to sleep. I had one of the greatest snoozes of my life, but I haven't been right since, Josh. I had, ready for this spread? We got three different kinds of locks. If you are, everybody always asked me, Ben, where are you getting your locks? In New York City, it is Sables. Okay, you go to Sables.

Sure. That's it. Because there are no Jews behind that counter. Okay, there are no. These are Japanese. It's Japanese owned, and they are Japanese behind that counter. Wow. They understand our delicacies, but they have the knife work, Josh. Yes. That we simply don't have so thin, so fresh, against the grain, perfect.

Pastrami locks, grove locks, which is dill, and regular locks. Then, Josh, they make a whitefish salad. I don't know if this is 50-50 sugar and white fish. Let's just call it fish salad. So sweet. What do we have to do a preface? You're right. You're right.

Fish salad. Fish salad. Honestly, we should honestly tell people, like, I don't know even know what the kind of fish is. It's just a white fish. Well, yeah. I don't know what white fish is. I don't know. Is it a cod?

Sounds too expensive. It's probably a cheaper fish. Cod. Cod. Maybe a cod. Maybe a puff. I'll have to ask my dad. A cut?

I don't know. Any white fish. Maybe that's why they call it white fish. It has no rhythm. No, it doesn't. It's honestly a very lazy name. Delicious tuna salad. And yeah, I had three bagels.

It was absolutely fantastic. Did you do? Okay, so if I was having three bagels, right, the first one I would toast and I would put lox, scalyne cream cheese, capers, red onion, lemon juice. That's exactly what I did. minus the lemon juice, except I was so hungry and so fat that while my bagel was toasting, I couldn't wait. So I had an untoasted bagel with tuna.

Yeah, I had a full, open face half of an untoasted bagel while I waited for my bagel to toast. Then the next one, I would do like a lunch bagel, which would be toasted with tuna salad. Okay? Stay with me here. And then the third one, that's dealer's choice. Maybe I do one half with just butter, you know, harken back to my, old old school ways and then maybe one half I do like I don't know a peanut butter even like why the hell maybe a dessert bagel maybe butter with a little cinnamon sugar on it you imagine

are you a cream cheese and jelly guy I don't think so kids used to get that at the bodega and it would creep me out is it good you should I think you should try it not that you need like a fat sugary snack to add to your arsenal I used to get creeped out by it as well it really is a delicious combo. Do you like a Greek yogurt with a little bit of jelly? Sure. Oh, yes. Love. It's kind of the same vibe. I could see that. And it's, it's quite delicious, especially on a cinnamon raisin bagel, which the cinnamon raisin bagel, unbelievable. Honestly, just a cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese. Unbelievable. So good. Yeah. See, that was my, that was my young kepper, but I really, I really have not recovered since, Josh.

Tell me this. I think I had too many carbs. Because the great Jerry. Jared Fried, you know, him and his lovely girlfriend, they went to a deli. Yes, I saw this. To break fast. And what I loved is the moment they sat down, the waiter said, a little something to break your fast. And it was just a plate with, I think, two rogolach on it. Yeah.

Which was so smart, right, because they know who's going to come in. They're all going to come in to break the fast. And they're going to be these Jews. They're going to be so fucking starved, you know, having shoved anything in their big fat face in like 25 hours. So let me ask you this. Did the synagogue really mess up not having a little grab on your way out? They did.

They should have a little nash. They had locks in a box. You know that Acme product? Have you seen it? No. It's a box. It's basically a lunchables with locks. Wow.

Unreal. It's a lunchebles with locks. So they did have that. But I'm the type of person where I want to break on a specific thing. in a specific place. Oh, but they did have a nash on the way out. They had a nash. They had a nash.

They had bottles of water. This is the thing that people forget. They're like, oh, I could go a day without eating. For sure. It's not that hard to go a day without eating. Try going a day without drinking water too. That's what makes it really, really difficult. You are parched.

You have your caffeine headache. You just, you're just, it's terrible. If I would rather go two days without eating than one day without eating and drinking. You? Yeah, no, absolutely. I think that it would be much harder. Much harder, much harder. The no drinking water from sundown to sundown is very difficult.

It just is. Now, tell me this, because I try, you know, the great kid David who's been on the show is beautiful. Rebbe father, um, Revy, uh, Henry. Shre did a wonderful Kalnidre on Sunday night and he had his little mini congregation on Zoom which I guess is sort of antithetical

to the Yom Kippur experience but it was great and he did like a wonderful sort of sermon for an hour plus for at the start of Yom Kippur and I tuned in for about 15 minutes but it was all I could take and not you know there was no issue with it because the great Henry

Shreiberman there's no one like him The issue was with me in that I have such a hard, I have such a hard time relating to these old allegorical stories. Sure. And I have a theory about it, but I'm interested to hear for you. Is there a part of it with those stories with the sermons at synagogue that you like that it's tradition, that it reminds you of what you heard growing up, that Jews have listened to these stories. for thousands of years, or do you really connect with the stories? I think it's all about the rabbi.

Like some rabbis, their sermons are, we learned this week that Jacob and Esther went up a mountain and did X, Y, and Z. And that is rather boring. No question. But you have some rabbis, like one, my rabbi told a lot of stories. But his father, he comes from a, like, he's like a mega rabbi, a lineage of very respected rabbis. His rabbi, I think, was like the chief rabbi of Moscow when it was the Soviet.

Like he comes from a long line, very impressive rabbis. And he studied in a yeshiva that in Moscow, I guess there hadn't been, he was like the first child or something that had been born in the area in a long time. And he told the story about how, uh, it's such a blessing to have children in shul because he's reminded of a time where you heard a child cry in shul and you were just so happy that there was a child in the shul. I butchered the story, but it's more so it's not necessarily about the text or this week's Torah portion or whatever it is. It's just, it's just deeply moving stories about religion and

our people and where the rabbi has come from, like the more experienced a rabbi is, the better their stories are. I used to have a rabbi. Unfortunately, he passed away, but he was deeply learned and up on the news. Like, his sermons would be very related to topical news. He would talk about what's going on in the world, the current political climates, like, whatever it may be. And it was very interesting. So I think that if you don't like, and this is no shade on, I don't know, kid David, his dad, the rabbi, I'm sure he's fantastic. It's fantastic. It was me, not him. But rabbis do, rabbis have different styles. Like, and perhaps the style that you're used to is that more this week's Parcia is X.

I'm going to relate today to that and come out of it with some conclusion, which for me, I also do find a little dry. It's, it's a funny line to walk like, it, have we talked about the history of, of AA on this show? Yes, but you can do it again. I mean, I think the one thing that it's funny, it really allowed me to believe in the idea that, you know, Moses, you know, writing the Old Testament or whomever, you know, religious leaders who have written the text that informs religions for thousands of years

that I believe that, like, God can work through someone and a miracle can happen. because, you know, the guys who wrote the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous, which is sort of the text of where all 12-step programs have come from, you know, it's a pretty young program, right? It was started in 1935. And these two guys, it was Bill Wilson, who was a stockbroker and Dr. Bob, who was a proctologist in Akron, Ohio, which, by the way, I'm going to Ohio tonight to do a speaking gig tomorrow, which I'm very excited at the Canton Library, shout out. But it's right. right by Akron, Ohio, which is where Dr. Bob lived in the birthplace of AA. And I'm doing the drunk pilgrimage. That's right. I'm going to Mecca, baby, which is basically just Dr. Bob's house, and I'll just get a photo and send it to my buddy's group chat.

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and learn more about the antioxidant goodness of Palm Wonderful. Please go to Palm, P-O-M-W-O-N-D-E-R-F-U-L.com. But anyway, these drunks, they get sober and they write this book that has basically helped millions of people, right? Like, if we played this game, we're either all directly connected or one person removed from someone who has benefited from some version of 12 step, right? Maybe tens of millions of people over the last hundred years. I don't think Dr. Bob and Bill Wilson were that, you know, necessarily genius. They were clearly very special guys.

But I think something worked through them to create this text, to create this program that has withstood the test of time thus far and helped all these people. So that's why I really believe that for whatever your religion is that you believe in, And like, I think that something greater can work through people to write these texts that helps so many people. I think I just have a hard time with like the ancient nature of the stories and relating to it because I really like relating to people's stories here and now who've walked the path. If that makes sense.

Totally. It makes perfect sense. And again, it's all in the way that it is delivered. I, like, when I have learned, like, it's really, really nice to, I, you know, learn Torah with a rabbi that you like. Somebody who is maybe for, it depends on your style. Some like an older person who's super wise.

Some like a younger person who feels a little bit more relatable. And they can go and explain based on X, Y, and Z and interpret what this really means. Because yeah, if you read just the text straight on, it's it's often very confusing and it's often very dry and you're like what what does this even mean so i i just i think that it depends on who you learn with how you learn why you're learning are you being forced to learn because it's a holiday like when i go to synagogue i am deeply

in my own thoughts i am praying for the people around me the people that i love um i am singing and going through the motions a lot of the time, but I'm getting out of it what I need to get out of it. I love it. Not necessarily there for everything. And I do often leave that, though, thinking, you know, I would love to learn more. But to your point, with the right person under the right circumstances, when I want to on my time.

Because another thing, which I think just happens when you go to a Jewish day school sometimes is that when religion is pushed on you, you flee, which is a difficult part of going to a religious school. I don't think that that's specific to Judaism. I think that a religious Catholic school or people resist school at a young age. You're so right. Like, I love learning. Did I love learning then?

No, because I was being forced to learn. It's the same thing. Sure. But I guess it does just apply to like. I wrapped Thilin every day in Jewish day school. I don't anymore because it felt like a chore. Would I love to find my way back to it where it doesn't? Yes, I've literally gone and bought it again because I would love to do it.

But I think that it's just more of the story all about place, time, why you're doing it and creating that right environment where you're excited to learn. So true. And also I love the ancient names from the Bible, Like Lott, can you imagine if Lott was like having relationship troubles and he looks at her and goes, you know, I know I can be a lot. Right? That breaks attention right away. She's forgiving him.

She's forgiving him. Job. Right? I got to get a job, you know? So dumb. Okay. So funny. Allow me to protect my boy.

You know, some of you listeners and granted, even some of you, admittedly, Ben, when we had Lee Moran and we were talking about the Lindsay Clancy trial, you were like, I don't know a lot, but here's my opinion that I'm sticking to. But you know what? I think you're pretty vindicated in many respects. And I got to, you know,

I just have to say, for anyone who watched Patrick Clancy, the widower of, not the widower, but the husband of Lindsay Clancy on 60 Minutes, I mean, that you attack this guy so public. I mean, could someone who went through such a tragedy? Could you imagine anything worse, Ben?

Could you, you saw this guy on 60 minutes? Did you see these clips? I saw, I saw, I saw clips. I also saw, um, and shout out New York or not shout out New York post. I saw such a terrible headline. It was talking about how it was like Patrick Clancy. I like quickly like like like is his wife's quickly quickly. pregnant, or his new girlfriend or something.

Like, that was fast. Patrick Clancy's having new baby. It's like, that wasn't fast. Right. And like people are, just because we are now in this trial, this is four years old, correct? Yeah, just about, like, three years. It just like it made it seem like it was pushing that narrative again, Josh.

Right. It was like, it was probably him. He probably did it. Look, he's already moved on. It was just, whatever, sorry for the tangent. But yeah, no. Totally agree. Continue.

It's also the one thing where the first, place that they look when a spouse does something or a child is hurt or a spouse is hurt, they look at the spouse. Obviously. It's the first person. And that like in all of this, they couldn't find a charge to bring up. The fact that the internet ran with this conspiracy theory and that none of the people who just propagated it will be hurt.

They'll just move on with their day and this poor man will have to continue on with his life. Way to go, internet. Nice. Sets. The internet. Please tell me that you saw, or honestly, I hope you didn't see. Did you see the other internet thing that's going on? No.

A TikTok came up for me, Josh, that you are Jeffrey Epstein's son. Me? What? What? I'm his nephew. Sick fucks? Yeah, right. I wish I knew my dad.

Jokes on you. I wish I knew my dad. Is this a real conspiracy? This is sick. I wasn't going to bring it up. Does that mean my mom is Jis Lane? It was a big TikTok. It was not.

How do you know what I don't? I swear to God it had like almost, it had like 80,000 likes. And it was saying Josh has never met his dad. He looks too much like. I look like Epstein. Maybe below the belt. No, yes.

Do we both have micro penises? Sure. That is sick. Can you, man, see, this is yet another mean thing the internet's doing. I had to grow up without a father. Okay. I am fatherless. And they go, no, you had a father.

No, you had him. Yeah, you'll look it up later. Or don't look it up later. That is sick. That's sick. It made me, I had assumed that you. You saw it, which is why I didn't send it to you. The worst person on earth.

The worst person on earth. The worst person ever. Yeah. Yeah. Not worse than literally the person who made that video or the person who started these rumors that a Patrick Clancy is responsible. These are really the worst people in the world. These people who sit behind their phones and just make shit up as if it doesn't affect them whatsoever are the worst people in the world. that's crazy

oh my god yeah wow sorry cool that'll be a fun deep dive later tonight as I spin out by the way I want you just to watch it I'm taking double magnesium tonight to try to flush this out of my brain

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This is in the New York Post. The lonely Roblox widow who claimed an icy-eye jigolo scammed her out of $6 million, dropped a jaw-dropping detail during a confrontation in her lawyer's office, revealing her father-in-law was an infamous wife murderer. She also claims the in-law threatened to kill her, too. Marianne Filippo, 49, accuses a silver-haired, Gregory Starr, of milking her out of millions following the, death of her wealthy Roblox programmer husband.

And yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it's unbelievable that this lady had a jigolo and six million. Wow. I'm so confused. What happened? I don't know. You know, bring the New York Post. I think the story here is that she got scammed out of $6 million by a jigolo and she's got

crazy Roblox fortune. You know what Roblox is? Yes. Okay, but so she, what, like she hired a prostitute and he like got her wire info? Yeah. And he got it. Obviously scammed her. That's pretty.

But no, I don't think, I think he was like in her life. Like he was like a true escort. Like not pretty woman, pretty man. Got. Got it. Got it. Now that's a movie that should be made. Pretty man.

Pretty man. Definitely. Can you imagine I'm in Pretty Man? It's like that everyone's just watching going like, Him? Hold on. Let me do the Julia Roberts scene. But it's not jewelry, like that scene in Pretty Woman.

It's like a bag of chips. I'm like, ooh, anosh. Oh. Ooh, do you get gummy worms from the sugar factory? I'll take a bomb. Oh. Oh, my God. I love this flavor of Bissly.

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I don't believe this at all. Isn't this the age of apps? I feel like people are probably fucking more than ever. It's literally like two horny teens hop on... like Tinder or whatever the hell the new app is and they go meet each other. I'm sure people are having more sex than ever. Maybe they're not talking about it, but like,

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Sorry. He's an asshole, certainly. But what are you doing, lady? What are you doing? She spent three days at Charlie's, sobbing, snooping, and stuffing her face with McDonald's. And I like this part until finally meeting up with a local college pal who took her in. Unable to recoup most of the fun, she laid out for her planned getaway. Wozniak visited Italy, Greece and the other hot spot she booked before getting the boot.

Nice. Okay, Elisa. She got a vacation. She was just crying the whole time. But how good is McDonald's when you're in a different country? It's fun. Insane. It's the best.

It's the best. And it's so nice. He feels so at home. You see the golden arches. You go in there and it's just 10 times better. I mean, just really, really delish. Oh. You know what are you nuts?

Oh. Yeah, I do. But really quick, do you want to talk about this Hollywood happy ending for a necessary Paramount drama? That's not my quote. That's the New York Post quote. But for anyone who doesn't know, Paramount David Ellison was trying to acquire Warner Brothers.

it had been up for sale. There was a bidding war between Netflix and Paramount. Paramount won the bidding war. Of course, they had recently, Skydance had bought Paramount. And so now they were buying Warner Brothers and HBO Discovery. So it felt like they were definitely going to be a bit of a monopoly, like just a gigantic company owning so many different subsidies. And California was blocking it, the AG of California.

But basically, after months and months and months and a lot of people, you know, expressing their opinion, it seems like the deal is going to go through. What do we think? And how do you feel? I was just saying, how do you feel about that? I don't, look, I don't know enough, except that I do know that when Netflix initially won the, one Warner Brothers in the deal until Paramount came in a last minute, like, higher stock price offer, nobody was upset. And Netflix is one of the biggest companies on Earth. And shout out Netflix. So I guess I have a hard time understanding. Like, you know, this is the reality.

It's like Amazon bought MGM studios. It's just we've consolidated. There's always been like the big five, you know, Disney bought Lucas films and Marvel and then bought Fox. Like this is just kind of happening. So there's always been five major studios, but now those five major studios happen to be tech firms that bought the major studios.

Yes. Yeah, I also don't know. enough. I would love to know more. Paramount is an institution, though. I love Netflix. Don't get me wrong. But Netflix is kind of like the new kid on the block that's destroying and completely changing the way that we consume. But there is something, I don't know, I like when there are more players in the ring. Like, I know that it's said that it sounds like it's more of a monopoly in this way, but I think it's forgetting just how big these streamers are. And I just think that the more places there are to go and stream something,

the more people will be looking to create different types of original programming. And the better it is for a you, maybe a me, the entire group of people that are looking to create things. If it's all sitting within one place, like a Netflix, then you don't have to go anywhere else and maybe they don't need to spend as much on original programming, right? Because why do you need original programming

when you have the ultimate catalog? You don't. You can get lazy. But I think that when there's more places to go and consume, it forces people to spend money, level up, make great shit. So again, without an informed opinion, I feel like this is a good thing.

I think it's good because, But to your point, that like what you're saying about it going to Netflix, that's the criticism of it being bought by Paramount. So it was like either way, but it seemed like one side was getting much more ridiculed than the other, which I couldn't understand. Like it was just unfortunately inevitable.

So that a giant company was going to eat them up because Warner Brothers needed to be sold. It's all about the streamers. Like what's like Paramount is Paramount Plus? Do they own something else that I don't know? Well, now Paramount Plus, us and I guess Pluto will own HBO Max and, you know, all the Discovery subsidiaries and Warner Brothers films and basically everything that they own, everything under that

umbrella. Good. Maybe HBO will make some more originals. Yes. I feel like HBO Max doesn't make enough originals. Like I was just talking about this with somebody, like they don't, they barely do comedy anymore. Like go and make some fucking stand-up specials.

Like go in green lights. Like, we get it. You have an incredible catalog of amazing stuff. Do more. Do more. So agree. Should we get to Woody You nuts? We should.

Our Woody Nuts moment is our gripes of people, places and things, both big and toll, whatever, sticking to your crawl. Josh, mine is a place. Let me first start out by saying, I did end up going back to this place and I had a wonderful time with my son. last Thursday I decided at 3.30. I wanted to go take Ruby to the zoo, Josh. So we went to the Central Park Zoo.

I got Josh to the Central Park Zoo at 3.55. I waited in line for five minutes. Five and a half minutes. I go to the counter and I say, one ticket to the zoo, please. And she says, sorry, we stop selling tickets at four. I said,

it's 401. I've been in line for five minutes. The zoo doesn't close until five. I just want to, like, go show them the seals. It's 401. Can I get a ticket? No. We left.

Left the zoo. Couldn't go to the zoo. Let me tell you, I wrote off the zoo forever. Good. Zos are bullshit anyway. I was like, fuck this zoo. Fuck zoos.

Totally. That's a different Woody Yenuts, but like let's pretend that that stuff doesn't happen. I get it. I'd take them sometimes. Then I went back to the zoo. Oh, Ruby loved the seals.

He loved it. He just pointed the seal as he pop up. He loved it. The other one of in nuts is certainly the zoo. Let me tell you back in the day, there used to be a polar bear in Central Park.

The polar bear has since died. That polar bear was replaced with a grizzly bear. When we went to it, Ruby loves brown bear, and he pointed to the, you know, brown bear, brown bear, what do you see? I see a redbird looking at me. Pointed to the grizzly bear. He said brown bear.

It was so cute. I watched that grizzly bear walk around in circles for like three minutes. And it broke my fucking heart. So, yeah, zoos are really trash. but they're also kind of magical. So I really don't know. I don't know what you do.

I don't know what you do. But in an age of AI and the CGI, can we come up with something? Can we come up with something? Yeah, a hologram zoo. That'd be sick. Right? Yeah, super sick.

And we should be able to ride the animals. No, I'm kidding. In a hologram zoo, for sure. No, we can ride in a hologram, we could poach. I'm down to ride a hologram, but I don't want it to be an animal. We could hunt.

If it's a fake zoo, we can do whatever we want. You get strapped up with three guns you walk into the zoo. It's fake. Oh. My Woody and Nuts is there's this woman on TikTok who's doing this series where she goes and tries food at different strip clubs. And she sees what's at the best menus. And it is so fun, except she went to this place recently that looks. so good. It was in Atlanta. The problem is that she had the escargo. What do you nuts? You don't

eat strip club snails. What the hell? Are you crazy? That's such a good series. Honestly, sorry, Paige. I think you need to do that series. Yeah, right. I'm sure, yeah, that'll really help our relationship. Why? It's just you're creating. Babe, I'm at work. with bubbles and cinnamon. Gosh, let me be. You want me to bring you home anything? I'm here for research. They have a great vegan offering.

Oh, my God. Folks, this episode's five stars. Otherwise, what are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on Spotify, that video. Hey, Josh. Unreal. It's through the roof.

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