Good Guys - Bobbi Althoff on Divorce, Drake & The Worst Part of Going Viral

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

MAZEL MORONS. This week, Bobbi Althoff joins the guys to talk about why divorce with kids is way harder than people make it seem, how her life changed after the Drake interview, and why she still feels completely out of place in every room she walks into. They get into imposter syndrome, growing up broke in the Inland Empire, getting famous overnight, bad contractors, body image, Jewish neighborhoods, trampoline parks, and the fear of being “found out” even when you’re wildly successful. Plus: bad behavior on planes, movie theater etiquette, and why Bobbi is turning her podcast back into a “shitty podcast” again. Write us! Send your messages to [e-mail]  Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're sitting here with Bobby Altof and she's a little lazy. Crazy. It's true. I am too. Are you? I'm like lazy and I'm not. Sometimes I'm so full of energy, but then if something like flips, it's just now I'm not moving for a week. That's bipolar too.

Oh, I don't have that. Oh, I do. That's just you. It's all you. Josh, I don't think you're lazy. I think you're, like, I actually don't think that any of us are lazy. I think we're all a little ADD, though. I think that's what it is.

Is it? You're really excited about something. You run into it. You're like, oh, yeah, this is my fucking jam. This is my new personality. This is me. And then a week goes by. And you don't care about it anymore.

Yeah, I know. Me and my sister just did like a timelapse of me painting our shed in the backyard. And it was crazy to see how her, like, rewatching it, how her brain worked versus mine. Because I, when you watch it back, and I didn't notice this during you. it, but when you watch it back, I'm, like, hopping around to different, like, I can't finish a task in it. Like, I will start painting one side, then I'll go to the other side, do a little bit there. The whole time she starts one thing and finishes it, like, to, like, completion every time she does a wall, she's not going to start a wall and not finish the wall. I start the wall, and I'm like, let me go check

the wall over there now. Let me go do this. Let me, I'm like everywhere. And it's like, that's why she's able to get so much more done in her day because I start so many tasks and, like, can't, and by the end of it, I was like, okay, you got this? And I was just starting to, like, remove tape before it was even done. Yeah, I'm a big give up 80% of the way through. That's me. Yeah, 80% is great. That's it. That's all you're going to get for me. Yeah. Right. I know. The last 20% is just not happening. We're like contractors, right? We get all the money up front. Exactly. And then we give up about it. That is. It's like, you don't need that light switch to work. No, exactly. The walls are here. Exactly. I, that's so funny you say that.

Right? Because I do this thing when I can't work out for the day that I just try to get a lot of steps. And I have a 10 month old. So he's great for stroller rides. Yes. So a good day for steps is 30,000. What the hell? I thought 10,000 was like good. 30,000? This is my own little weird thing. How many miles is that? It's about 12. Look at my steps for yesterday. Because by then I went, I don't need the 30. Like, this is sick. This is opposite. You were close. Yeah. That's, well, I know that that's. I know that that's. I know that's. I. I know that's. It's insane, but I recently started a goal. Well, that's crazy because I thought it was like an ambitious goal, but now seeing yours, it's not ambitious. But I was like, I'm going to do five miles a day. Yeah. I do 4.7 every day. And it's like I can't, that last little point three, you would think it's like, just it's whatever. Like I don't, I don't care to.

But if I see four or seven, it's like, that's okay. You did it. That's basically five. Round up. Yeah. I round up everything I do. I got 29,000 steps, Ben. How do you walk that?

How many hours is that? Are you running? No. You're five hours of walking every day. I call it pacing. That 30,000 steps is a ton of steps. That's so many. A ton.

Me and my sister walked on Saturday because I was like, I have to hit my steps. We walked from my house to Santa Monica. So somebody called it an urban hike, and I was like, I love that. It was all day. It was so long. It was a nine-mile walk. We, like, went on a scooter for a mile. But that's your whole day.

Yeah. But it really works. My sister's in such great shape from just walking. So that's why I was like, I need to stop feeling so sorry about my body and just like walk. That's not that hard. Do you feel sorry about your body? I hate my body. Ooh, you're on the right podcast.

Sorry. Yeah, me too. Me too. No, you don't. Yeah. Oh, you do. Yeah, I do. Of course.

No, we're very self-critical. I don't know. I mean, now it's definitely in better shape. But like, we're like, we're just like big people. over here, big hearts, you know? Not you. He's talking about us, not you. But Ben, you got to clarify.

We have a beautiful woman here. We are the big one. She is not. No, no, no, no. We is in the R podcast. We are, we have big hearts. I don't know how big your heart is. I know that we have, we have big hearts from pushing 300 pounds, 600 pounds together.

Wait, were you 300 pounds? Were either of you 300? That's not true. Who was? I was 290 pounds four years ago. and Josh 20 years ago was probably... I've been 170 my whole life and there's nothing to prove that wrong.

You lost a lot of weight, didn't you? I feel like in your younger years, you were a little bit thicker. That's so sweet of you to phrase it like that. If only people then told me I was thick. You know how nice that would be instead of like fat slob? Were you fat before? Yeah, I was fat.

I was 290 pounds. I swear. No way. You think I'm joking. I swear. You cleaned up well. But how tall do you think he is? How tall?

Oh, let me guess. Five, ten. Five nine. Five nine. Six three. You're six three? You're sitting. You're sitting.

He's a tall drink of water. You're, okay. Sitting down. Five nine. I'm shot in the heart. I'm shot in the heart. How tall are you looking? five two, maybe.

I don't know. I was trying to guess accurately. I wasn't trying to be nice. If I was trying to be nice, I would have been like 6'4. But I was like, let me try to get this right. I was wrong. Josh is, I think, you're 6 feet, right, Josh? I do the actor thing where I'm 511, but I round up.

It's a 6-3? No, 6 feet. Oh, that's crazy. I feel like all men round up. For sure. We do. My boyfriend tells his height with shoes. And he doesn't see the problem with.

He's like, he's like, he's like, I'm six. He'll say I'm six three or I'm six four. And I'm like, you're not, you're first one. You're not six four. And he's like, six four with shoes. And I'm like, he's like, everybody counts it with shoes. And I was like, no, everybody does not. I've never counted my height with shoes.

But no, no one does that. It's, he's six two. He just gets an extra, like, what, two inches from like basketball shoes? I don't know. I think you can count it with hair. You can not count your height with hair. No, you can't count hair. No, like if I have like a big.

hair day or something? I can't be. Okay. Okay. So no hair, no shoes. I mean, it's valid because I feel like people get shamed for being short. So you want to be like taller. It's okay to exaggerate. I feel like my sister and I are, I say my sister a lot. I live with my sister. So all of my everything I do is with her. But we're both like this morning we were measuring ourselves. Why is that not? Why are we? We're so old to be doing that still. My kids were actually doing that in the room the day before. And now I'm over there with my sister. Like, who's taller? Is that something you do every morning? Make sure that you're still growing.

I'm not. I think I'm shrinking because I used to have like an inch and a half on her. And now it's like questionable if I'm even taller. And I was like, wow, I'm really like my posture must be shrinking me a bit. Yeah, I think the world, I think time and children and gravity has a way of shrinking it's down. That's horrible. Makes it smaller.

But what do you think? And Olivia, feel free to weigh in here. I have heard it said not by me, but by people, that when it comes to hooking up with people, whatever number a guy gives, divided by three, and whatever number a girl gives, times it by three. That's, I feel like that's great. Is that right? Olivia, oh, Olivia just gave me a big nod.

She's like, absolutely. Oh, my God. I'm thinking about my wife so differently now. Oh, shut up. You run around? No, I'm kidding. He's been with several men before you. I don't know what she told you.

If she even told you she was with men before, that was her just, like, trying to make, not, not scare you. She was actually with zero. Thank God. Zero. And if she divorces you, it's still zero, even with three kids. Oh, man, I do think about that. I just want her to be happy no matter what, even if one day she kicks me to the curb.

I think so. You are to see. I get it. If she kicks you to the curb? I'm not easy. You have three kids. Nobody do any kicking to the curve. There's going to be a lot of paperwork.

It's too. I've, as someone who's been through a divorce, don't, don't do it. Not advocating divorce. Like, it's not fun. I wouldn't, I think just choose your partners wisely if you're going to have kids with them. Get a divorce before you have kids or choose them wisely if you're going to have kids with them. I can't even imagine. You have how many kids?

I really can't. I have one 10-month-old son. Okay. But I, but still, like, and I'm very, very fortunate to have the best wife in a wonderful relationship. Josh can say the same. Like, I would just, I don't know what I would fucking do. long were you guys together before you had kids? A very long time. We started dating at 20 and 18. I'm 34. At 20 and 18. Wow. Yeah. We've been we've been together like for for half our, like, not half our lives, but like long enough to know you guys, when you guys got married that it was the right person. Long enough to know that it was the right person we got married. And then we waited like seven or eight years before we had our son.

Wow. See, I was in such a rush. And I always, I, like, I'm so grateful. My kids are really the best, and I know every parent says this. Like, I'm like, my kids are the best, cutest, most amazing children ever.

And like, because it did work out for me, I'm like, obviously I wouldn't change anything. But I would tell my kids, like, date someone for a long fucking time, live with them for a long time. Yeah.

Before you have a kid. Because my, my mom would always be like, when are you guys going to get married? When are you going to have a baby? I was like 20, by the way. And I'm like, okay,

I like, add so much. I just, I was like, I need a baby. now. And it's like I met him in 11 months later. I'm pregnant with our first kid. At the time, I didn't think anything of it. I was just like, oh, yeah, like, these last 10 months together were great. Like, only like nine of them were we actually like seriously dating. But like,

yeah, like this is great. We can, we can be together forever and raise a family. And it's like, I was 20. Like, I don't know. It's 21. And it's like, I would tell my kids, like, I hope they wait till they're 30 to have kids. I'm like, wait until you're 30 because it's just you make better decisions as a 30 year old than you do as a 20 year old. The blessing in disguise is, God willing, you'll be such a young grandma. It is. Yeah. That's fucking sick. Like I think about that all the time. Like, I wish, I wish. I have like, I'm sure everybody has these random friends where they're like, their mom is 20 years older than them. And the grandma's 20 years older. And you see like four generations in one room and you're like, that is so special. It's so rare that it's not without its complications,

as you just mentioned for making such quick decisions. But I definitely wish it's amazing. It is, I guess, a little bit because I feel like, and I'm, I wasn't a super young mom because I meet people who had their kids at like 16 and I'm like, okay, what am I saying? But I'm in L.A. I'm a young L.A. mom.

Like, people in L.A. have their kids so late. 35. Yes. Like, most of my kids, like, school friends, our parents are in their 40s. And I'm like, I'm 28. Like, I'm about to be 29 this year. but like I don't even know what I was saying anymore.

I do that a lot. I'm like, I'll be talking and I'm like, what? Where was this going? Oh, yeah. My kids were. Did you have a bagel before? Josh, did she have a bagel? I do that too.

A what? Beagle or Zyrtec? What does that do? It's an allergy pill that kind of gives Ben brain fog. But since switching over to Zizal, with Zizal, you'll have zero brain fog. Yeah, Zizal, you're totally good. Or a bagel? A bagel.

You have a bagel this morning? What is this? No. I had nothing today. She just passed the test, not Jewish. Is that I would say? Are you guys Jewish? I don't know the difference between a Jewish person and a non-Jewish person.

Oh, you don't see color. We are definitely Jewish. Yes, we are. I couldn't tell. Do Jewish people have blue eyes? Some. He says light eyes, right? You have green eyes, right?

I have light eyes. But yeah, no, we have, I don't think that there's like a specific I characteristic. Okay, it's just, I don't know. Yeah, my wife's Irish Catholic. So we call our kids cashews. Oh, because you're talking, okay, because you're religion, Jewish, not ethnicity. Jewish is considered. I don't know.

I'm so stupid, so do tell me. No, no, it's both. Okay. I like that you said that, though. You say that you know nothing and the fact that you knew that, though, that's the biggest thing. It's both. Okay. So your wife, that's why you gave her, her religion, Catholic.

Yeah. Okay. She's Irish. Right, because you could be Roman Catholic, Irish Catholic. Okay, okay. She's Irish. Got it. Yeah.

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must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert, obviously. Do you have any other Jewish friends? Yeah, I live in your manager, your aging, your lawyer, no kidding. No, my whole team actually. Of course. No, it's crazy how, um,

so my whole neighborhood is Jewish. I'm the only like non-Jewish. My neighbors will ask me to turn off their, um, electricity and stuff. Wow. just like, oh, wow. She's a Shabbat goye. Yeah, you are.

You're a Shabbas goi. What does that mean? I'm going to home. Shabbas goy. No, Shabbas goy is amazing. It is the way that religious Jews is our shabat. Get around like having to break Shabbat. The idea of Shabbat is the first time it happened.

I was like, my sister gets, we get a knock at the door and I'm like, I send my sister do anything. Like I could, it's like a murderer came and was like, hey, can you like change my tired back, let's be go do it. So we got a knock on the door and they're like, hey, can you come over to my house and like, help me. And I was like, go, Lexi. She's like, okay. She goes. She comes back. She's like, that was so much fun. They needed me to turn off like a light upstairs. And I was like, oh, then it started like, it happened a few more times after that. And like, I went over

there and I got to go too. And like, I went over there, turned off their light upstairs and and then went home or their ice maker. Yeah. Yeah. It's a very interesting. I imagine the Jews like, this is my daughter Rivka, Hayer and Yehudis. What's your name? Lexi Weird Lexi They're pretty I mean they're all

Like they wear the wigs and everything Yeah Hussetam Crime High No No no What do you mean I think they have their own Like security you know

Like the patrols Well they've pushed us to that point No I'm gonna It's I have all the benefits of it It's lovely But and Ben is the better Jew of us both and has done some religious studies and whatnot. Yes, he's very giving.

But let's also say it's crazy. What's crazy? That we is, like, that there is a religious sect of us that find workarounds for, like. I think that what she's describing, though, so there are two types. I actually think that what she's describing is an honest one. Well, so their housekeeper would accidentally leave the, like, they wouldn't do it. Their housekeeper or somebody would accidentally leave something on and they didn't want to turn it off themselves.

Correct. Correct. And it's not like a regular, like every week. I'm like, did-to-do, like, let me turn on your light. They have all, they have those, you know, I've seen like Jewish TikTok, so I knew going into their house some stuff. Yeah. Like the little lamps that you can just move to make it light or dark or whatever.

So they have like that stuff, you know. So what what some do, which is what Josh is talking about, is they'll say, hey, Bobby, do you mind turning on the TV for me? Oh, okay. No, that has happened. Oh, I'm not watching. You're watching next to me. Do you mind putting on the Masters?

Round three. Okay. I can, yeah, no, they're not. They're great. They're great Jewish people. They follow them. I love this. I love it.

I love it. So I was going to ask you, and you're not in character now, which I think is, I only know you from podcasting and from videos. Got it. And you very much have this. just awkwardness that I think is hysterical.

I think it's your, it's your, your shtick, but it's not always on. You do turn off. Yeah, no, sometimes I act normal. I don't know. So I'm, I've, like, played with it a lot where, like, in the beginning it was, like, super in character. I was like, and then I kind of just, like, that's how it started,

but then I, I think that I started to care too much about, like, comments and stuff. And, like, people were believing the thoughts just who I was. And I was like, I want to show them. I'm a regular person too. So then I started to like really just regular interview people. And then I was like, wait, this is the whole, my whole podcast started as like a parody of podcasts.

Like I was like, everybody has a podcast. I don't want to be everybody else. So like, how can I? So I was like, let me just make fun of podcasts. Like, it was never supposed to be a podcast. It was always supposed to be making fun of it, which is why I only lived on YouTube. It wasn't actually going to go on like Spotify or anything. Like, it was never supposed to be like even audio.

Like it was like, you were supposed to watch me parody a, like a shitty. Like it was just like a shit. podcast. And, and then I interviewed Drake and I got a whole team out of nowhere. And it was like, it's, it's now a podcast. Like, you're now with the studio, you have like, like, here's, like, all of these things. And it just quickly changed into an actual podcast and then very far away from what it started at, which was a fake podcast. Like, so now I'm coming back to like, I'm going to create it. I'm going to, I'm taking steps way back and, um, turning it into a shitty podcast again. Like, I was like, I'm getting rid of the like whole team I had recording it on. Like, I used to

travel to podcast. I used to like, it was just, and now I'm like, we're doing it in my kitchen at my house and it's going to be a shitty podcast again in character. But yeah, at some point and just, like, let the character go. It was fun, though. I feel like that's what, I mean, you've acted in your life. That's kind of my dream in life. I feel like I want to, like, act. And that was kind of how I was like my whole life I wanted to act. And I saw TikTok as a way to, like, get there. Like, I was like, oh, I can, like, show that I can, like, do a character. So I started my TikTok off of a character. Sure. So then the podcast was also like, oh, this can help propel me there. But then at some point, I just became like a podcast host. So how did you get Drake? I mean, that was three years ago, which is crazy. Like, I think in this summer, it'll be like three years since that happened. But it's just because it was kind of blowing up around that time. Like, my clips were going really crazy because it was like weird. Like I was just sitting with a podcast. Yeah.

It was like kind of a Andy Kaufman. I don't know if you're familiar. I've heard the names, yes. But yeah, it's like Eric Andre, Andy Koffby, you know, in that like living, walking that line of real and satire. Yeah. So I did one with Funny Marco and he saw it. So, like, because it was, I think me and Funny Marco our clips got like over 100 million views. Like they were going crazy. Every little, it was an hour interview.

Every single, like, minute of it had been broken up to a different clip and would get at least 10 million views. Like it was crazy. Every minute of that was like, and I didn't even put that one to YouTube. If I did, I don't even remember if I did. Like, I was so not focused on having it be a podcast. It was just going to be clips that I was really posting. And I got a call from Marco one day, and he's like, Chuck who just followed you. And I was like, well, I go look.

And I'm like, oh, my God. So I was like, let me ask him to be on the show. So I DMed him. And I was like, hey, I mean, my whole, I mean, you guys are, do you guys have guests every time or no? It's mostly just you guys, right? It's mostly like 75% us, 25% guests. See, that 25% like that was my, that's my whole thing. So all I had to do was like just send pitches out to everybody and just like hope that

they like take it, right? Like I ask people every day, like to this day. That's all I have to do is just DM people. But that's how I've gotten like the majority of my guests is just with the DM. Really? I'm not special. That's how we connected. You DM me.

I know. He said no. I said no at first. I wrote no. scared. Yes. And I was like, you know what, fuck you. But then I saw him. What's funny is like, I would rather a no scared than just like fully ignored. But it's like, it's great. I was, I was whatever. But then I see him at, um, at Bert Kreut's movie premiere and, uh, our show premiere. And I was like, oh, you. You. It's always so awkward sending somebody a DM and then like seeing

them in real life. I like, you were so nice. And I was like, oh, I should be scared. No, that's nothing to be right on. Well, we'll see. We'll find out. We'll find out. I mean, being with you in person, in person, nothing to be scared of. I can say, having seen like that Drake episode and other episodes, of course, they're intimidating. The stick is intimidating. Yeah. Do you know what, too, what happened and why it kind of went away is I started to like, A, I started getting more comfortable interviewing people. So like talking to people before when I started, I was so uncomfortable with the idea of like talking to, like I was intimidated by talking to other people and like interviewing them. So it was like easy to do the character because I was like, I can ask you questions. I would never

ask you in a million years. I can be so. And then I kind of started to get more and more skills like talking to people. And then it was like that's when it started to turn into just like me talking with people. But I don't want to do that. I don't want to interview people. Like I don't want to just sit and talk to. Well, you know, I take that back. It's not that I don't want to. There's just not as much money in it. That's mainly why. It's just not. It's just not. It's just not. It's. It's just not. It's not. It's It makes more money to be in a character. That's a good team.

So I'm going back to the character. It just makes more money. Like it really truly, that is it. It makes more money if I'm in character. It's just very different. Like there are so many interview-based podcast shows. Yeah. There are very, there are no other you in that zone.

I can't think of another podcast like that where you make a plus list celebrities uncomfortable to the point that they're laughing of discomfort is so rare. Yeah. Almost all. not all of the people I've interviewed. Like, I'm friends with still. Like, I'm like, like, we've become friends. That's what's cool about it, though.

Like, I'm sure, like, you get to just, I mean, you're in the entertainment industry. It's, like, it's fun to be able to collaborate with other people. Obviously, it also does better. Like, if you have somebody else who you're, it's like, you get their fan base who's, like, tuned into it, too. But also, it's just, like, it's fun to meet people. And, like, people that I would have never met before. I get to meet now.

And it's, like, Drake was the very first celebrity I've ever met in my life. Like, I've never. I can't think of like a, I would have had no, I didn't grow up in L.A. Like, that wasn't like a thing for me. I grew up in like the inland empire. The I.E. The I. Respect.

And when you met Drake, were you like, I kind of like Jewish guys. Exactly. I was like I love the Jewish people. Yeah. We really do. Wait, you grew up in the inland empire. I did. Here's the thing about the IE, Ben.

Yeah, tell me. I don't know what it is. Tell me. It's on the way to India, right? It's on the way to Coachella. It is. It's like a desert. Alley offshoot. It's strip malls. It's salt of the earth people. It's, and I didn't grow up

up and like, I kind of, it depends. Like, I used to be really ashamed of where I grew up because what's, what's funny is like a lot of people will say I grew up like with money and I'm like, I'm glad you get that vibe for me. Like I'm glad thanks. Like I could not have done more of the opposite. Like I grew up in not even like people when they think of the Ie, I feel like they think of like Corona or something. I grew up in like Paris, California, but like not even, there's like nicer parts of Paris. I grew up in like the hills where it was like we, it's just, it's not, it's not nice. Like my.

Yeah, like Shina Shea from the hills of Azusa. I don't know where that is, but. It's not a great, it's not the best area. Olivia gets it. Yeah, it's not, it's not the great. It wasn't like, like, we, my mom didn't want us going to the schools that I was like zoned for because they were just like, they weren't the greatest school. So instead she, which I always wished, actually, she left me in those schools because you took me from the schools that I could have been.

And you put me with like middle class people when I was like lower class. And it was like I felt such like a need to like, like my dad would drop me off in front of my school with his trailer. That was from, it was literally before me he got that trailer. So in 1996 he got this trailer. And it was rusted. It was his work trailers. Rusted. It's like always his doors to his cars.

You had to like, he had to open my door to come out because like or roll down the window and I'd have to like reach out. And I was like, I would beg him, like, please just drop me down, like, a mile away. I will walk the rest. Like, I will get out earlier. Like, please. Like, you shouldn't be ashamed of your father for working hard. And I'm like, okay, I wouldn't be ashamed if you sent me to like the other school. You sent me to one.

Is this? This is a movie. Is it? Is there to be like this? No, it should. Oh, no, no. My boy, Len, his Russian immigrant father, Felix, used to rip cigarettes in the school parking lot waiting to pick them up and clean the tires.

Oh, my. And he'd be like, Dad, you can't smoke on school property. and stop cleaning the tires on our 98 Nissan Ultima. That's so embarrassing. I was humiliated and my dad didn't like to him. It was like, this is my work truck. Like this is your lucky. And I was like, this is so humiliating.

Like please for the love of God just drop me off down the street. Like I will, he wouldn't. He refused. I had to be dropped off like right in the front. I was like always so just embarrassed. I feel like I've spent my whole life just being like embarrassed and out of place. How does that feel you still got that? Yeah, no, I have that.

Like, I feel so, I don't know if at any point, even at like the peak of like when my podcast was like on the top, I still felt like, like, I will always have this feeling of like if I'm in a room, right, like interviewing someone like Drake, for example, I will always have this feeling of like I do not belong here. Like I do not deserve this. I do not belong here. Like, this is like, like, it's just I like, like, I'm like very grateful. Like, I'm so grateful in any room I'm in. Like, but I always feel like. they're doing me like a favor. Like they're like,

you're like, like this is like a handout for me. Drake was. He, and he was. But somebody did him a favor, Josh. Like imposter syndrome is what it's called. It's so unbelievably real.

It's so real and it's important to remember that somebody did Drake a favor to. And he did something with it. Right. Like he fucked like, and you are too. But like, and I think I have and I think Josh has somebody always does somebody. Well,

yeah. It's just like everybody like, unless you're a Napa baby, like you did have to make your way into the, industry at some point and work your way up. So it's like, but even if I, if I'm like shooting for like a magazine and they're putting money into like me being there, I feel guilty the whole time. Like it's like, I have so much guilt being there because I'm like, you're wasting resources on me or like, even being here. I'm like, you guys, you're sure you want me on your, like, it's, I have that feeling

in any room. I'm in of like, like, like, you're wasting your resources on like me. And I'm like, it's, I don't know. Like, I don't know if that'll ever go away. But I think that's like maybe from my childhood of like always feeling like I didn't belong wherever I was like just like I don't know. It's a hard thing. I'm a sober guy and early on in 12th step when I went in guys would be like, you're self-centered. I'd be like, no, I'm not. I'd be like that's reserved for people who like themselves. And they were like, if you think about how great you are or you think about how terrible you are all day, you're still thinking about you. Oh, I'm so self-centered. I would never do. I'm like. And not like it's because I. I.

I am 100%. And it's just, I think that our minds use that as an outlet for that self-sabotage. Yeah. And that spiraling. So it's like, it's just whatever mechanism you allow it to have. Yeah. It'll take them. So you want to think poorly about good old Bobby, who we love and appreciate and so happy

to have you here. Like, your mind's like, I'll take that. Yeah. And if you want to think you're the greatest thing ever. I wish, though, I had the opposite of that. Because, like, I feel like a lot of successful people have the opposite. Like, they think they're the best in every room there in. And I wish I had that.

Like, I think I'd do so much better if I could get, like, be cocky instead of, like, the opposite of that, which is, like, I don't know. I don't think it's helpful at all. It's not helpful. Yeah. At least your side of it, I think, comes with some gratitude. You don't want to be the opposite side of it where, like, you're like, my shit doesn't fucking stink.

People hate working with you. And you're not grateful for anything. There's definitely something in the middle. I'm like eternally grateful for any. I mean, again, like, as someone who didn't grow up with anything, it's like the fact that I can, like, give my kids the life I give them. And, like, I, the school my daughter is at now, I was a nanny for a little girl that I used to take to that school. And I take her and I'm like, I remember being, like, I was pregnant with my daughter, nannying and taking the kid to the school.

And I remember thinking, like, she's so lucky. Like, this little rich girl gets to go here. like all these little rich kids like I'll never be able to give my and like now my daughter goes there and it's like I walk into that school every day and I'm just like I feel so grateful to even like give my kid this experience because like I would have loved this experience growing up like it's like like but it's it is yeah I'm like I'm so grateful for everything that I have right now and I and I do live like I feel like everyone's like live like that can be taken away and I do like I feel like I live like every day like oh yeah this could be taken away at any moment and I'm grateful to like for today I had that much I had that

moment three days ago when I took my voice to Sky Zone the trampoline park. And they were like, sir, this line is for members. And I said, good thing I'm a member. I'm a fucking member guy. I am. It's $60 a month. It just makes sense fiscally. I'm going to sound like in my lifetime a spokesperson for like Scottsdale, Arizona. But like I went there and I was like, it's so clean. It's good living. Because it's new. Like everything. Their trampoline parks are clean. Like I would, like, you don't feel any. sort of like put some hand sanitizer on guys like here's some like none of that like I'm like this is so clean and I wish that there was somewhere here that was just like clean you know

too many people there's there are a ton yeah there's like no one there's like it's got scottstale Palm Beach Josh I was going to say it's like having me in studio with you except you replace Scottsdale with Florida like it's just he lives in Florida for a part of the year okay yeah do you like this just started and let me tell you it is so fucking clean I love for that. Don't you? I wish we could do that here. I'm going to start, like, picking up trash on the side of the freeways to clean it up.

Yeah, yeah, I'll do it with you. We'll get a camera curl. Yeah, exactly. It's more. But my sister's like the type that we'll pick up trash, like on, she walks every day. And she's like, she's like, she's the best. So we'll walk and she'll be like, she saw like a huge pile of trash on the floor and I'll just walk by it. She's like, I wish I had gloves in a trash bag right now.

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I mean, obviously you were already killing it. Tell me about those days after. We live for that. Was it? I mean. When did the Jewish dream team start circling and going, we pick you, Bobby? Oh, no, right. The claw machines.

I mean. I feel like every person on the internet when they, like, blow up, it's like they have like a very, like the, right, they have like six months where they like are on top, right? Where it's like that's like the, that's like the hot thing, right? And you're like, you're getting all. So there was like a good six month period where I was like, oh my. And the whole time I was just like waiting for this to end. Like there's no way this like last. And surely, sure enough, it didn't last for long of like you're like there was a moment where I was like just like A-less celebrities are like DMing me being like I want to get on. I want to get on. And it was like. My DMs request are like people that I've like, like, seen from afar and always been like these people are so out of reach, you know? Like who? Like who? Like, I don't know.

Is there like one or two that you can say reached out? Well, a lot of the people that were even on the podcast, like in the early days, like, were from DMing me. So it was like all, like most people were just like, like, a few of them I reached out to. But and then my team kind of like stepped in and got me some people who I was very like excited about like Scarlett Johansson. I remember being like, oh, my, being in a room with her. I was like, you are literally like so beautiful.

It's crazy. Or like even Jessica, Jessica Alba, like, looking at her, like sitting in a room with her. I was like, she's perfect. Like her face is, I'm like, you are so beautiful. Like, it's crazy. Like, I've just looked at her as like someone who I've always thought was like stunning and then to be in a room and have it be my job to like some press with her. Like, it's very exciting.

But yeah, there was, it was very crazy. Like out of nowhere, I'm getting so many people just on this little show that I, like, thought up one day. And I've told this story before, but like the show, I was with like a little rinked ink agency at the time, you know? And what's funny is they're not that rinked ink. Like they're, I think they just got bought by like DBA. But they, I sent them my idea for the podcast. It was like, it's going to be a parody of Guy Raz's how I built this. And I like had this whole thing.

It's going to be called the really good podcast. because it's a really bad podcast, and it's going to be like, this whole entire thing. And I'm going to be, like, in character. And they accidentally sent me back their internal emails about it. And it was like, this wannabe, Zach Gellifanakis, like, this is already done. Like, this isn't going to work. It's their internal emails. Whoa.

And mind you, I'd been excited for them to reply. So I'm, like, checking my email, checking my email, waiting for them to say what they think, because I finally sent them this, like, pitch deck of, like, what I wanted to do. I see that. My heart like sank. I was like, these motherfuckers, like, you're so rude. And, um, of course they were like very apologetic. They were like, you were never meant to see that. Like, we're sorry. We do think like it would be a good idea for you. Just do a regular, just do a regular podcast, just talk to people. And I was like on my way to Target. And I just start crying. I was like, that was so, I was crushed. I was like, you guys were so. And what's,

oh, that's what I also sent them the first episode. And that's, that was their response back to that. So I'd sent them the first episode that I put a lot of like time and effort and And at that time, like, I wasn't rolling in money. Like, I drove with my, like, ex-husband and my kids to L.A. We were living in Laguna. So I drove to L.A., got rented a spot, this place called, like, Malrose Podcast. Sure. Got a one-hour booking there.

Asked, I was, like, who do? I wanted a big person at the time. I was, like, had a lot of influencers and stuff I was mutual with. So I asked Colling Ballinger if she would be my first guest. Wow. Miranda sings. And she said yes. So I go drive all the way there, get a hotel for the night.

filmless hour, all of the clips too. So, like, I hadn't posted yet. I sent it to my team first thinking, like, this is going to be like, they're going to love this. They hated it. When I text her after and I said, this is what they said to me. She was like, every time I've ever had something do really well, somebody's told me that it was, like, not. Like, she was like my first, like, Netflix show. I had said this is going to be one.

And they, like, everybody's shit on it. And now I have my own, like, show on Netflix. And it's like, I was like, I, so she's, like, post it. Because I was like, I don't think I've been to post it anymore. And I was really like, I waited a month after, which is unlike me, I'm the type of person that recorded something in the next day it's going out. Like, I can't wait. I have no patience for anything. Like, I want results right away. And for that, I was just, I'm not going to put this out. So I was like not feeling any sort of like, I wasn't going to put it. And then they said that.

I was like, absolutely, this is just this shitty. So she is like, no, post a clip. And it was like immediately every clip I put up of that episode got like five, six million views. And I was like, Okay, maybe I actually do have something here. So I started, I kept going back to that same podcast studio. I'd go like, my boobs were crazy at the time. I had like breast milk. I was like breastfeeding my baby and then like had like, like, I look back and I'm like, that's why didn't you wear like a T-shirt?

Like that's crazy. Your boobs were insane. Why? There were two complete different sizes. They're like, it's like an A cup and a double D. And I, it was insane. And what's crazy is I wasn't like uncomfortable in my body at that time. I'm like now somehow I am.

But like, Then I wasn't. I don't know. And yeah, I like, all those early episodes, I'm like, that looks so crazy. But I, and I would try to, like, pump the bigger side to get it just right before to, like, get it, like, be even a little bit. Wow. It's like letting a little air out of the tire. It's literally, exactly that. It's, that's the best description of it.

It's literally it. I had one side that was doing the whole job of breastfeeding a baby. And the other side was doing nothing. It was useless. Wow. So, yeah. Women are so. rad. It's just like we don't we don't have the we don't have to fucking do anything. That said I

that's that I also have breasts that are two different sizes you wouldn't know it but my right is bigger than my left. Wow I didn't even know that it's possible for men but you guys have to deal with so much more. We really don't have to deal with anything like it's truly like the job of a mother it's just I love I love moms though because you look around and I'll see like a mom and I'm just like look at you you're just like you love your kids so much and I think that's so cool that Like you have a mom that like everybody has like a mom who like even if they were like not great moms like really just loves their kid, you know? Like I don't know. My mom was like not an amazing mother, but I'm like she did love me.

I can't say she didn't. Like it's like my kids. It's like all I do is poor my like love. And all of us are just trying to do our like best, do better than our moms, you know? And it's like I just love our kids. Yeah. For being being good dad's like I think Ben and I are, it's great because the bar is low. It's so low.

It's so low. Like my dad was like, nice meeting you. So now it's just if you stay around. It's like, yeah. Good job. I try to tell my boys at the time. They're like, dad, get off your phone. I'm like, I'm here.

Am I got here? So when you talk about like that, so it was six months of feeling on top and you knew that it was kind of going to, like, when you got that huge wave of people like that we all get. Like I've gotten it before and people are coming after you. Like, are you like? This feels undeserved or does it just level you? I take a lot of what people say personally. Like, especially things if I'm already like insecure about it. And then they say it to me.

I'm just like, well, fuck you. Like that's like confirms your suspicion. Yeah. Like I've been there. It's so, I, like, it's good in some ways. Like, I'm really great at taking constructive criticism, but I'm also really great at like taking unconstructive criticism, if that's a word. Or misconstrued criticism.

That's my favorite. Like, you hate me, don't you? People are so mean. all the time. Well, they are, and it's so funny, right? I was recently watching, I watched clips that went viral of Theo Vaughn on Joe Rogan's pod and, you know, not critiquing what Theo's,

and, you know, Theo is a 50-year-old guy, like, who, you know, what good is fuck you money unless you say fuck you, right? Like, whatever he wants to do. But what I found interesting, right, was at the point when I watched it, there were a million views on the pod and 10,000 comments. And that ratio, I was like, that's about right. I was like 1%. Yeah, that is crazy.

99% of people watched it, like we all would and just not comment because we're normal. And 10,000 people either loved it or hated it. And they really took issue with Joe because they felt like he wasn't supporting Theo. And all I've known is that Joe has been one of the great supporters of Theo, like personally, like whenever he's struggled in his life that Joe's been there as like a friend. And I was like, you little jurors, Like, here you are thinking you're supporting this guy, but God forbid he was really in bad straits. Like, Joe would be the call, right?

Joe would go help him. Yeah. People also just like don't. It's hard for people to understand that there's like a whole life that happens outside of what you put on, like, the internet. Yeah. Let's do a moron mail and then what do you nuts? Moron mail. So Bobby, moron mail is we call our listeners the morons.

We're all morons. Okay. which I think is actually very apropos to the conversation that we just had where we actually, none of us actually know anything. It's true. Not one thing. But you can go to Good Guys Podcast 1 at gmail.com, write us in some more on mail. Maybe we will read it aloud. This is from Anonymous. Hey, good guys. I just went to the movie theater with my sister-in-law and teenage nieces. And all of them arrived to the theater at Showtime. I couldn't believe it. Since my one sister-in-law was the one who purchased her tickets, I couldn't go in and get seated before they all arrived. The concession lines were horrendously long. So by the time we purchased our drinks and snacks, the previews have been going for a full 10 minutes,

and we didn't get to our seats until the middle of the last preview before the actual movie started. The crazy thing is this has happened before. None of them care to see any of the previews before the movie. Are you guys the type that arrive early to make sure you get your concessions and get to your seats before the preview starts? Or do you take your time and not worry about getting to your seat until the movie is starting?

I can't relate whatsoever to people who are purposely late to movies. Thoughts love the pot. That's interesting. He says concessions. I've never even used that word. Concessions. You gave it like the voice

that I know he said it in too. You know? To the movie or something's in the show. Do you remember that jingle, Josh? And smoking is a no, no, no. What the hell is that? And remember to throw your trash away? I think it was AMC.

Do you remember, thank you for coming to Lowe's. Sit back and relax. No, but it's the same thing. Never heard of any of these. Oh God, we're all. We're all. If you grew up in Scottsdale, you would have known. I would have known.

I'm not a movie person. I'm not a concert person. I'm not a movie person. You won't go to the theater? I'm afraid. But I will if my kids really want to. It's because of shootings, mostly. I want to go to the malls.

I don't go anywhere. Like, I'm really, like, with my children, I am. And then I won't. go without them because I'm like, you're going to be motherless if I will go watch a movie. Was it worth it to go watch a movie now that my kids are motherless? Yeah. That's probably, I think every mom, I was supposed to go to a Disneyland with a mom friend of mine the night before I texted and I was like, hey, like, I'm having a lot of anxiety

about going tomorrow because I'm afraid there might be a shooting. And she said, oh my God, I'm so happy you said that I was thinking the same thing, let's not go. And I was like, oh my gosh, that's literally everybody all the time. So I'm sure your wife is similar. But the movies scare me. Like, it's just so easy. They don't check.

They need to have metal detectors that they use. Like, why can't they check people? I'm so sorry that you feel that way. It's, I really, like, I'm so. No, I'm, I don't know, Josh, if you're all, you're the same way hearing that. I'm, like, broken inside about the fact that you and other people feel that way. Yes, we should definitely have metal detectors and movie theaters. But, like, the idea that, the idea that you feel that you can't go to the movies without being fucking shot.

It's scary because I, I've been friends with people who live in other, like, live in Europe and stuff. And I'll be like, oh, you just go to the mall here. Like, you just go into it. Like, you're not afraid. And they're like, what do you mean? Like, they're afraid. Like, stabbing's happened.

But it's like, no one's going to go in with, like, an assault rifle and just, like, kill 70 people real quick. Like, it's so common here. And it's like, I, and, like, this is a conversation. Me and my ex had a lot, but about, like, public school, which is crazy. I actually do. I've kind of gone back and forth. I think public school might have more, like, police.

than private school. But it just depends. Like I've been to like my public school that I went to when I was a kid had so many police officers outside and I'm like... Shout out. It means you're in a good part of town.

No. Sounds like the wrong thing. In New York, my shit was locked down. My elementary school was locked down, hard body. Like that's what I want. Okay, so what do we do about this poor girl and her friends? She shouldn't go to the movies.

Well, no. Look, here's what we do. She goes early. She gets all the snacks. she like watches a beautiful movie I'm so sorry that Bobby feels that she's going to get shot in the theater you're not going to get shot

you can't say a lot for sure but statistically I think I Can I say that Josh? Only go see movies I'm in because that means the theater will be empty It's great Right you know you're a shooter You're like let's skip the Josh back film

There will be enough There you go It's not it's not a Spider-Man Oh my God. Well, I don't know. She should probably just, I don't know what she should do. Should we do another one? Sure.

Another one real quick. And then what are you nuts? Okay, this one's nuts. Is watching porn on a plane nuts or am I nuts for not minding my own business? For context, I was sitting in the window seat and noticed a guy in the middle seat in the row in front of me looking at adult content. It was an evening flight so the plane cabin was dark and his brightness was up. I once saw a dude at our public library looking at it on the library computers. And I couldn't believe those sites weren't blocked.

That's so that I think is that not illegal on a plane? Like that has to be. There has to be laws. It should be illegal. I think it might, well, especially if he was doing anything with that information he was taking in. It's definitely illegal. What are you doing if you see somebody watching porn on the plane? I'm going to be, I'm telling the flight attendant.

I'm not letting that. I'm going to be like, excuse me, he's watching porn, that fucking weirdo. I'm more upset with Teresa Judice FaceTiming without headphones on on your phone like if you're doing that in private and you're not bothering anyone I would be more okay with that than someone making a ruckus on the plane that's ruining my experience.

Watching porn? No, that's so weird. I'm not for it, but I think on the tier of annoyances. That's pretty high up there like you weirdo. Yeah, no, that... There's no way he's just watching it. Like, ew, men are so, so gross. It's fucking nasty. It's nasty.

It's nasty. I think I'm with you, Bobby. I think I'm telling the flight attendant, especially if I'm with, like, my son or just. There's kids on this play. And she, this man is just, it's disgusting, you pervert. I'm like, excuse me, flight attendant. The man in 3C, he's watching a scene with Manuel Ferrar and Gigi.

I mean, I don't know who, but there. Do you mind asking him to turn up his volume and remove his headphones? You might ask him, what's his Bluetooth? You mind asking him to pass the phone? Turn on his air dropper. Man. I know. Oh, that's so stupid.

You're disgusting. Yeah. We're horrible people. I disagree with porn ever being watched, but. Am I mishearing that it's become. more popular for women to watch it or no, is-ish. Maybe I'm, I think that I'm in the boat of people who think that's like a, like men, no one, like, I don't think that's healthy.

I think watching porn is unhealthy for your brain. Even if it's like super moderate? If it's unhealthy. I think it makes men like more addicted to it and they're already so sex-driven. It's like, I don't think men should, I think is like none of that, especially if you're in a relationship, I don't think porn should be consumed, is my hot take on porn. I would I don't I disagree with it. To each their own.

I just really don't yeah I don't I don't I don't I've not like just I think that I've like seen in my life that's like something that does like it's it's not good for relationships. If a man is like that. I'd never. I hope so. You guys are both sitting here looking so guilty. I'm clean as a whistle. I'm clean as a whistle. Josh, what are you nuts?

What are you nuts? What do you nuts moment of the week are gripes with people places? and things both big and tall, whatever's sticking in your craw. So, what? Anything that makes you say, what are you nuts? We'll go first. You'll have time to think. What are you nuts?

So, like, it could be something as dumb and innocuous as it could be going to the movies, or it could be something small, something huge, take your time. You'll hear it. We'll give you an example. I ordered an Uber X the other day, Bobby, in the great New York City. Okay? The Uber pulls up. it's a yellow cab.

That's a what do you nuts. All of a sudden, I know that the trip that cost me $45 if they just turned on their meter would have been seven plus the $4 and extras. You're looking at me in the face, taxi cab and telling me that I'm getting ripped off.

If I order an UberX, it needs to be a Toyota Camry. It can't be a yellow cab. Otherwise, he needs to turn on your meter. That is a what are you nuts. Got it. That's what are you nuts. My what are you nuts.

Let me look at my notes. Oh, four cheese pizza. I've never been anywhere with four cheese pizza. I recently went to a place. Okay. I don't do dairy, so. Don't change them up. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Straight moths. We figured it out. Yeah. Stupid. I like vegan. My wife's vegan. Is she?

I want to be vegan. On pizza. I'm going to be. Is she how long has she been? Ten years. Oh my God. I love that for her. She's a good and she's not annoying.

I love an not-anoying vegan person. I don't know the verdicts out on you. I'm not sure how you'd be. I think I would be a not-anoying vegan person. Do you know what? I've tried really hard to be vegan in my life multiple times. I can only ever last like a week. It's hard.

It's so, it's in everything like butter. It's hard. It's hard to exist in society. Yeah, you can't. I know I felt so like I couldn't go anywhere. I was like, oh yeah, let me just get the like what broccoli. Like it's just. It's salad and fries.

Yeah. fries, but that's also so unhealthy too. So I was like, I was doing the thing. And Josh, with the big new wave beef tallow, you got to be careful. So true. That's not vegan, the fries anymore. Meat tell us beef fat that a lot of fry, really yummy fries are cooked in now. They're fried and beef tallow. Okay, see, I, yeah, it's too hard. I want to be like, I, I aspire. I don't eat a lot of meat, but I aspire and I don't eat dairy. So I'm almost there, but I aspire just to be like that, like lower my footbread. I've had a lot of my friends are vegan and they've told me that, like, You don't have to go all the way.

Just try to do as much as you can. And that's like still better for the plant. You could do that if you want. You don't want to. I've been vegetarian at times. I love eating vegan. Yeah. I just try.

You do it, you do it, Josh. Because your wife is vegan, you eat. You definitely eat less meat than you would. 100%. I buy vegan like 25% of the time and I love it. Does she cook? Mm-hmm. That's so lucky.

I'm going to move in. She doesn't cook vegan, though. Like, she cooks, like, not really. She'll, like, cook something for herself. And then because she cooks, like, meat for the kids. Oh, okay. That's great. I like that.

She's really cool. I like not making your kids do it and stuff. Like, I think that's, like, let them decide. Yeah. Come on over. I'm going to come over. I'm going to come over. They're going to have chicken nuggets and I'm going to have a salad with your wife.

Great. Paige. Do you have a what are you nuts? I don't, I don't think I have any. You can, we'll make you go into the movie. You're what you're nuts. Yeah, that was it. It's just going to the movies without fear.

Going to the mall in general or anything without fear. People do that and it is crazy to me. I love the mall. They just go to the mall. You hit a food court recently? You're talking, you're talking to mall goers. I'm just letting you know. Constantly.

We go everywhere that you're afraid to go. Really, you do. I go. I'm too scared to. If I have one thought about like canceling a flight, it's gone. Like I'm not, I'm not going. I don't care how important that trip was. I'm not going.

And if I like, I'm so fearful of, like I'm clearly someone who needs to get back on their anxiety medication. Yeah. But Lex, you're doing a little 10 mils? I was on Zoloft, 100 milligrams, you know. 100 mil. Yeah, you know, lots to fix there. It was great, but.

Go back. I didn't know I am. I was going on. They gave me that and then I had Xanax for flights because I was, I could not. I was like, my. Let's say Ben and Jerry's, babe. It's great. Ben, take us home.

Bobby, anything else you want to. plug the podcast. We're not we're plugging the podcast, but it's inconsistent, but we love it. Josh is going to go on. I'm so excited to have Josh on. It's going to be great. I, like, just plug my future. Support things I do in the future. I don't know what they'll be, but support them all.

We're supporting everything Bobby's doing. She's fantastic. Thank you. So it's five stars. Otherwise, what are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on Spotify, the video off the charts. This Spotify video, this is an unbelievable feat, Josh. We have our beautiful video on Spotify.

Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see you. Bye-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-pou. Next time.