Good Guys - Casey Neistat Has Nothing to Plug!

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

Happy freaking Monday babe! Casey Freaking Neistat (legal name) is here! From Josh's memorable blunder during a pregnancy announcement to Ben's disgusting subway ride, this episode cannot be missed! Casey divulges his journey through the complexities of LA living, the chaos and charm he adores in NYC, Casey's take on cosmetic surgery, and way more! It gets a little deep this week babes... what are ya nuts?! Leave us a voicemail here! Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Sponsors: For a Limited Time Get 15% off at marinelayer.com/GOODGUYS15 Go to Nutrafol.com code GOODGUYS to save $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping Drinklmnt.com/goodguys for a free LMNT sample pack with any purchase Hero Bread is offering a special 10% off your first order with the code GOODGUYS at Hero.co Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The following podcast is a dear media production. I'm Josh Peck. And I'm Ben Sopper. And we're the good guys. There's a lot of guys out there. And we're the good ones. Welcome to the good guys podcast. You know, good guys, I need to, was that a left-handed handshake?

He was trying to hold their hand. There was a gesture. Let it happen. I want to start this podcast, your podcast, by saying that I recorded a podcast in this exact studio in that exact seat with your friend of mine, Jeff Wittick, like three days ago. How'd that go? Well, I mean, I love the guy. It was great.

You know what I mean. No, what are you saying? Podcasts, you get an energy after. Even if you love the people, you walk away. Well, no, I think that Jeff Whittick is like one of those guys who's like got the thing. Right, because sometimes, like, I'll do an episode of the pod and I want to jump off the Williamsburg. Because I'll just be like, that sucked. The reason why I haven't done a podcast yet is I don't trust myself enough to like, like Joe Rogan, loving me.

or hate him, what makes him good is more than him being an interesting person. He's an interested person. He's always interested in what you have to say. I think that's what makes a good host. That's why Howard Stern is like the ultimate interviewer. He's so interested.

And I don't trust like my own I never shut the fuck up, man. I mean it. I don't. So I feel like if I had a podcast, I'd be like you know, tell me about how your day. And you'd get one word out and I'd be like, let me tell you about my dick. Yes.

Like, I'm that jerk. But Jeff Wittick is not that. He's very good. Yes. He's a great conversationalist. So it was a wonderful podcast. Did you talk about the good guys as much on his podcast as you're talking about Jeff

on ours? Because I'm getting upset. Yeah, it was like two hours. You probably spent an hour, hour 45 talking about, good guys. And you're, I'm Josh Keck.

I'm Josh Keck. Yeah. Yeah, Ben. Celebrity Ben. Ben, we talked so much about. Beads. About,

yeah, as you should. I thought you were going to say that you don't like to do a podcast because you're worried you'll get canceled. Like say the wrong thing. But you don't seem like a guy who worries about that. I think I do worry about that. But I think I have, I'm pretty good at saying, like, what's it like when you have like a lag before it goes live to hit the mute button? Yeah, yeah, the 10 second.

Yeah. So like I think my brain has like, how old are you guys were the same age, right? Okay. So remember portable CD players? Yeah. When they had like the 10 seconds where they would have the next 10 seconds of the song. and queued up. So if it skipped, it wouldn't actually skip. Right. So I think my brain probably has like three to five seconds

queued up of what I'm going to say next to edit before I actually verbalized. And it'll just block out intrusive thoughts. There it is. But the intrusive thoughts are what's the most fun. That's where all the comedy comes from. Yeah. That's what it is. And then you get to cut it. These podcasts aren't live. That's what's so fun. You say what you want. If it was way too overboard. Let me tell you a story about this guy, real estate mogul. Runs for president. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's doing this thing with his access Hollywood guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're talking about very bathroom talk on a bus. Sure. He, too, thought it was edited out. Next thing you know, grab them. Yeah. So I appreciate it, but I prefer to try to edit before it gets realized. That's probably good advice.

It is. We should do more of that. We're fucking up. Yeah. My wife has done this weekend, she met someone and she said, I know your granddaughter. Your granddaughter's Jessica, right? And the woman said, no, that's my daughter.

My wife has also done it. Like, I had no idea you were pregnant. The woman's like, I'm not. I do that. So my wife has like the negative, like she just skips. You know what I mean? There's no, she's got no random access memory there. She has no buffer.

I was at the auto show with my own son, because I'm all man. And I was around. And I run into my wife's husband, or my wife's best husband. My wife's husband. Dan, great guy. My wife's best friend's husband, and she had just told my wife that they were pregnant

with their third baby. Beautiful blessing. But it was very early. Usually you tell your friend before your family in many cases because it's so new. So she had told her that. She told me that. There's the husband with his father, brother,

and his son. Oh, come on. And he says to me, congrats. I know Paige is pregnant with your second because my page was pregnant with our sunshine. And I go, and congrats to you, sir. On your upcoming child. And he goes, mm-mm.

I go, whiz. And I'm with my friend and my son of my friend goes, wait, did you just ruin this? And then the husband and his father and brother go, what? But he didn't know. And he didn't tell you that. to tell the parents? No, no, the husband knew, obviously, but he hadn't told anyone in his family yet.

And his wife had told my wife, because it was like two months, you know, it was very early. And my wife shared it with me, her dumb, dumb husband. And remind said dumb, dumb, hey dumb, close your big fat lips. So it's kind of on page, not on. It's all her fault.

By the way, that's just not fair to you. Don't give you something like that. That wasn't your secret to keep. Of all cold. Also, I know we're like three minutes into this, but you have said something mildly disparaging about your wife and her inability to keep her mouth shut. I said the same thing about my wife.

What do we do? We're back. My wife is. Ready, ready? My wife is amazing. How's Paige doing? She is such a star. I'm so lucky.

You know what it is? When I'm around her, it's like, she radiates just a positive energy. I'm so lucky. Hey, Casey. That wife of your Candace, the great. I call her Candice's a great. You're not alone.

Is she just as great? Or has she superseded? said greatness. I think like if I had to say something about her that is not just completely true, but that really, you know, that really confirms her as Candace the Great. You know, yeah, she's an extraordinary, extraordinary woman. Do you want to say a nice thing about your wife, Turty Lou? In fairness, she hasn't said anything disparaging about us. It's true. It's a smart one out of the three of us. It's true. A plus woman. She is a best. And she's our boss. The best. She's got one of the biggest podcasts in the world. She's crushing it. She does.

And that's where we see real value. We met Casey. see at a random townhouse probably eight years ago or something? It wasn't so random, but it was like, for me, for us, it was random. What was the agenda? There was a specific, come, let's talk about. Red Nose Day was the charity that I believe he either owns or ran. And it was, hey, the owner of Red Nose Day would like to invite you to his townhouse for a dinner.

We went, we watched a video on Red Nose Day. Casey Nistat was there, Ben Soffer Celebrity, Claudia Aspre, we were all there. And for us, it was very. Very, very random. For Casey, it seemed to have been less random. We ate somebody's home-cooked meal. We never met them before. We never saw them again.

And that was that. You know, I just want to... You're throwing that we around pretty generously. I did continue. It makes it sound so cryptic. It was like, Red Nosed Day is a charity that raises funds for, I think, what, it's like underprivileged children or something. I'm out.

I'm out. It's a very good cause, but it's primarily in the UK. They're trying to bring it to the states. that brought us like social media folks together to like. Yeah. And yeah, like we were supposed to come up with ideas at that dinner. Some of which came to fruition. Some of which didn't.

The awkwardness is that it was like, definitely we didn't know each other. And I don't think we really understood what that dinner was about. Yeah. So you're not on, you're not, you're totally fair to characterize it like that. But I did stay in touch with them. And I did a bunch to promote Red Nose Day. And I think we helped a lot of people. Clarifying.

We as in me and my wife did not stay in touch and helped no one. We came for the free borsed. Casey stayed in touch, raised great money for Red Nose Day. You know, the other thing is that Akela Hughes, do you know Akela Hughes? No. Okay, she was at that dinner. Okay. And that's when she and I first met, and she and I have now had like a burgeoning, whatever

it is, 10-year friendship. Wow. She and I are doing a thing together tomorrow. Holy crap. We could have that. So, you know, that night was like, it was, I think it was pretty fruitful, beyond the delicious dinner we had. Whose fault is it that we don't have that fruitful 10-year friendship?

I'll blame myself. I went into it negatively. You went into it positively. I probably had like that Eeyore cloud over my head. Like, oh, no. What do I do you? I have to donate my time. So I think it's a great topic because you guys are New York guys.

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Gave it a try. I mean, I'm talking, you want to talk about the digs where this guy lived? Nice. Nice. And you said L.A. is not for me. We were almost neighbors. I'll tell that story, too.

But I would love to hear how you... Oh, it's very good that we weren't neighbors. I don't know if you ended up learning about that house. I told you about what happened. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, clearly you did. Well, okay, so quickly, Kesey had this sick, unbelievable. Did you build the house in Venice?

No, it was a year old and we found it. We did a lot of, like, great house. Sick. Sick house. Yeah, there's something pool in the kitchen. Wow. It was cool. We went over there once for a lovely Shabbat.

Good Shabbat. We met our friend, well, your friend now, a friend of mine as well, Dylan Lowy, shout out. Amazing guy. Greatest. And so I'm there, and there's this beautiful house right next door. My wife's like, I love this. We put in an offer. I'm like, I'm going to have so many views just through osmosis.

Because of this guy. Forget about the delicious Shabbat dinner. Shabbat dinners, views. This is great. So basically what happens is we get the plans to the house. And we find that they've totally, these grifter, ghanous lies. Scamsters have basically lied about the square footage. And it was like really 300 square feet less.

And it wasn't a big house to begin with. There was like 2,300. So now it's like sub 2,000. It's a big hit for not a huge house. And those are myriad other like, because they were effectively flipping it. But they tried to position it as like, we built this house from the ground up.

Yes. And they made it look amazing. Yes. Like this wasn't like lipstick on a, pig. They gave that pig a facelift. It was like a full makeover. It was gorgeous that house. Yes. And we were friendly with the folks who bought it after you guys fortuitously had the whole thing fall apart on you. And yeah, I think that like there was a kind of a perpetual non-stop flow of issues. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we... Flooding walls, watering. That's how I remember it.

We left the neighborhood like, we only live there for 11 months before we sold the house. Well, I just remember that we find this out. We're like, we'll still by the house, but we'd like a reduction because it's not as big as we thought. They're like, lawsuit and stuff. They're like, no way. So we're like, great. So we pull out, which you're allowed to do. We use this wonderful Australian realtor case.

Great guy. Great guy. Shout out Shane. And I remember it's like December 23rd at this point, right? And I say to Shane, because now they have $75,000 of escrow money that we had given when we we originally put the offer in. Right? They're holding on the mic.

This is hard. Your coin. Hard fought. No interest being paid. Brand deal. money am I. So we go, I see Shane, you know, when money's coming back, he goes, not to worry, mate, money will be there. Happy holidays. I'm like, I don't feel good about this. God bless Shane, who's just trying to allow us to have a nice Christmas. What he knew behind the scenes was they had said

they're not getting their escrow back, which like legally, there's no precedence. It cannot happen. What, the withholding of the escrow. Yeah, they're just going to keep our 70s. five grand because they're pissed and we figured out their grift and then on December 26 Shane's like bad news might and we had to get a lawyer and eventually it got worked out but it was how much money did you spend trying to recoup the money a thousand bucks oh it wasn't it was well worth it fantastic it was like a one mean letter and they were like all right you told me you put the guy's head in a fucking vice man was that not true you got to do what you got to sometimes you got a But you just couldn't, you couldn't do L.A., huh?

No. You were there for one year? Three. Oh, so different house. You were in that house for 11 months. We were there for like two years, 10 months, two years, eight months, something like that. We moved three times. Oh.

Yeah, just never found it. Yeah. And we never found it. And I get it. Like, I definitely see the attraction. I understand why people who love it there, love it there. My big sister lived there in Hermosa for, like, 15 years, something like that. And she moved away just a couple years ago.

And she's, you know, she misses it. And she's like, I think about moving back there all the time. I get the attraction. I think I really like, in its most kind assessment, underestimated how much I love and need New York City. Like, I have a codependent relationship with New York City. I'm never leaving New York City. I'm going to die in New York City.

I will never live anymore. Like, this is it. I don't want anything else. There's nothing better. You know, like, my wife and I eloped three weeks after we met each other and, you know, got married and fell in love. But then we had to get an old. We realized we didn't like each other or something.

We broke up. And then we spent like a couple years completely apart, dating other people, all that. Wow, I didn't know. Yeah. And in those two years, when we got back together, several years later,

we were like, you know, we took that time apart because we thought that maybe there was something that we wanted that was more than what we could offer to one another. And we were dead wrong. Like, no, this is, the grass is not greener. This is what we wanted.

And I think New York City is a parallel to that. It was a good thing that we took the time to move out there. Otherwise, you're like fantasizing about something that's not real. And we did it and it wasn't real. Just like I was a couple years apart. Was it the people? Like what was? I mean, you really want to get me started? Because when I get going, I won't stop. Yeah, because I didn't, I'm being generous. Like I fucking hated L.A. But when I say, but when I say, I understand why people like it, I'm not saying that to be disingenuous. So why do you think people like it? Let's start there.

Well, okay. So like, I look at my kid brother. My kid brother, who's a total superstar. retired U.S. Air Force jet pilot. Wow. Who's now like, when he's like, I'm thinking about leaving the military so I can be a stuntman. And I'm like, Dean, you don't get to do that. Like, you made it as a jet pilot.

You don't get to then double down and be like, I get to be a stuntman. He's like fucking Thor's stuntman in the Marvel movies. Like he's as big as they come. Wow. He's a superstar. And he's L.A. local and New York local.

What that means, folks, is that he can get jobs in New York as a local so I have to pay extra to like put him up. That's what that means, right? Right. Fly them. Yeah, yeah. So when you do that, you're more attractive to L.A. productions and New York production.

But he's out in L.A. 80% of his time because he likes his friends out there. He likes his tennis year round. The quality of life, he says, is better. He has, like, tighter friend groups out there. He finds it to be more social. He likes his surfing. He likes his cycling. My other brother, my big brother, Van, loves living in Topanga.

He loves, like, the remoteness of it. People that he meets, the weather, like all of that. My big sister love the beach, like her, friend group going out, like the sort of that vibe and that thing. They love that. And I get it. Like, I completely get it. I have people like, I could never leave L.A. and I totally get an understand. I just have like next to no value on any of those things. You know, it's the same thing as when people say, I could never live in New York City. I would never push back. Right. It is fucking disgusting in New York City. Chaos. But the best kind of chaos. Chaos all the time. It's filthy.

Yeah. It's physically filthy. But I think it trains you to see through filth and find just what is fucking amazing about life. Like I took the subway here and it was fucking disgusting. But I don't know. I got here and it's great. Like sure it was like grimy and gross and I actually saw a person. Like cleaner now than they've ever. No.

No. No. No. They're embarrassed. They're disgusting. And there was actually probably a mid-70s man with a walker that I watched. walk up to the in between the trains, move switch carts with his walker.

Hell yeah. Isn't that epic? Isn't that epic? So, I don't know. I love the grime. I love it. Me too. You can shit on the subways,

but like Andrew Schultz wanted to make a promo video for his, he's headlining Madison scores. Sold out in two hours. I'd take because of your video, which was sick. He's like, what can we make? And I was like, I've got this video. I've always wanted to make. I was like, we've got to make it in the subway.

And he was like, okay. and we like dropped everything and went into this whole production that day in a New York City subway where like we were taking over train after train after there's one shot where the door's open and he comes walking out

which means I'd have been on the outside of the train car. Wow. You know how hard that is the time? And which car? Well, that's what we were doing. Like I would get in that run, go one stop and then I'd see him pulling up

and I'd like run and wait outside and the door to open and be like that didn't work and I'd run and jump back in the car and be like, wait, you get the next train, same spot. And we just did that up and down the island

like all day. And we're interrupting people. We're screaming. We have boom boxes to try to match audio. We're in everyone's way during rush hour. No one gives a shit. No. Like the cops showed up once

so they get a selfie with Andrew. Like no one cares. More than no one cares. No one said, what are you guys doing? It's just New York. You're like, of course that's what you do. You're shooting some sort of music video

on the subway. Have a nice day. Like, leave me alone. I'm reading my book. I'm listening to my podcast. And I think that is the thing that like I haven't lived everywhere in the world, but I've spent tremendous amount of,

I used to work in Paris in the 2000s. Like my wife's South African, her family has a place that we spend a lot of time in Cape Town, amazing city. Like everywhere, Rio, Chicago. Like I've been all over the world for extended amounts of time. That thing, and I can come up with 50 more of those,

I've only found it to the degree that it exists, like in New York City, in such like a profound level. So you moved from New York to L.A. We're just going to talk about New York, L.A. I'm never going back. I'm never coming back. You're not habitable.

It's insane. Because you get all the luxuries of a major, extremely major top five city with also a little bit of the pleasantries and the civility of the suburbs of like getting that. For sure. Being able to park, being able to like walk around a grocery store that doesn't smell. Like you can't show me a Gristidis or a food important. about here. It just doesn't have a slight rank.

You're aging yourself or dating yourself, both of those. Out of business. Completely out of business. Because they did have extreme rank. And for whatever, also, out of business. Entirely. No, they're not entirely. Then you're like, that's the last one on earth.

We'll swing by Dean and DeLuca on our way out there. It's been gone since 2009. You're like Dean and DeLuca. Oh, I used to love the blockbuster on the corner. Oh, and you don't go to Cantor's Deli even? Have you been to Wegmans? You guys, you just got the first Wegmans here, right? A couple now.

It's like the four seasons of grocery stores. You see what they're doing with fish? Unbelievable. Unbelievable, you saw this? They're taking Otoro. They're getting the belly of the tuna and they're giving it to people in a Wegmans. He can go get great O'Toro in Wegmans. I know, but this is a big deal to you guys because you're living in a cesspool.

Where are you getting Othoro at your grocery store? Oh, boy. Oh, am I getting Toro? I'm getting in. But this is a common occurrence in LA because we can, I get it. But yeah, I just don't. How many times is your house or apartment or carbon robbed? Well, I know you dealt with it.

Let's get into that. Well, compared to New York? Yeah, I don't even lock my house here. My house is unlocked right now. You live in a doorman building. You have a security guard in the lobby. My point is, my point exactly, Josh, that. We have created an environment here.

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and obviously this is a very proudly Jewish podcast. But I find, like, in these moments every year or two, when, and you said you hate making these videos, but you feel compelled to. I'm just so in awe of the way, like, I feel like you're able to frame it, you're able to educate people in a way that isn't overly intrusive, isn't overly preachy.

A lot of times there's no cuts in the video. So I'd love to hear A, sort of your, more of your approach to that and how all that came to be. Well, you know, I think I learned a lot. I made a very bad video about, like, the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump.

And I think my feelings in that video were how a lot of people felt, especially, you know, especially at that time. Like, this was like right when the grab him by the pussy video came out, right after Trump had said some really awful things. And I mean, I feel differently about Trump now. I'm not saying I'm certainly not endorsing him or anything like that. But I don't, I had fears about Trump. I think I was really caught up in sort of the hyper anti-Trump is, you know, he's still not my favorite. I've still never voted for a Republican presidential candidate. But I definitely felt different about Trump in 2020 than I did in 2016.

In 2016, like, I really was on that train. I believed that hype that, like, he was the fucking Antichrist. And I made a very heavy-handed video about that. And I think ultimately, like, it was ineffective. And I think the reason why I was ineffective is, like, I don't know that it was true to, like, exactly how I felt. I think I started from a place with that video of, like, how can I be as forceful as possible?

And it wasn't how I would talk to you. If you came in here like, what are you thinking about Clinton versus Trump? Yeah. And what's funny is I'm not like, I've known Hillary Clinton. I've met her a couple times. In fact,

I'm very proud to say once in early in my career, she stood up on a podium and mispronounced my name. We made like a video for a nonprofit. And she was like, I want to thank Casey Nistat for me a fucking lady. So I met her before and like, you know, it's, you know,

there was some familiarity there. But even so, I didn't, it wasn't implicit endorsement of her. I was like, you know, at least she's smart. But I really went aggressive about how my feelings towards, you know, towards Trump. And I just don't think it was effective.

I think it felt dishonest. And I think like beyond how crazy the sort of the MAGA supporters were then and how much they went after me personally, that bothered me less than like me recognizing that there was some truth in the critique. You know, it's like YouTube comments only hurt

when they're, when they tell you the truth. Yeah, like you've put on a couple Josh. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. So I learned a lot from that. And I do feel like it was kind of a, there was something dishonest about there were edits in that video. And then, you know, when things like George Floyd happened or when things like, you know, the 2020 election happened. And again, I sort of felt that it was appropriate, necessary to speak up. I think that you have an obligation where you have an audience that, to talk to them about not just fun things or like, buy this new phone I'm endorsing, but like, here's how I feel right now to take a,

more thoughtful approach to it. And yeah, like I don't, like I try not to do a cut. I'd re-record the whole thing. I want you to know that I'm speaking to you. I'm not reading off the script or trying to edit this or optimize this for views or sensationalism or anything like that. And this in particular, the video you're about Jewishness that you're referring to in particular, you know, I recorded that in the immediate aftermath of October 7th. October 7th was a Saturday, right? Yeah. And I recorded that video, I believe, on like a Wednesday, which was kind of the first day I was back in New York in my office. And certainly before things got as noisy as they are right now is, is like messy as they are right now. There was still a lot of ambiguity then and there was still

a much greater sense of sympathy then towards the Israelis and the Jewish people in general. But I think what I said in that video then, which is that like this is a fuck all complicated issue. We're talking about 3,000 years of disputed land here. Like this is a wildly complicated, but what's not complicated is siloing the anti-Semitism and what that means and what that means here and what that means everywhere. And speaking up about that is the most important thing right now that we can do. And I feel that that message and that feeling that I had then three weeks ago now is more relevant three weeks later because it was almost prophetic. Like I didn't think of it as prophetic. I wasn't like this was going to get bad and all these fucking anti-Semites are going to crawl out of their graves.

It was like I had no idea that it was going to be like it is right now. And it's shocking. Yeah. But it does. When I look back at that, I'm glad I made it. And I'm glad I was just, you know, as truthful and as honest as I could in the words that I chose. Because I do think the relevance of that has gotten unfortunately much greater than even when I recorded it. Well, we all knew subconsciously as Jews as that was unfolding was there's only a matter of time before the narrative shifts.

And so I think people were. very quick, you, myself, and real, just proud Jews in general, wanted to make sure that everybody understood this was unprovoked and what you're going to see is going to happen from this. There's going to be a response and it's just going to turn anti-Semitic. And that's exactly what's going to happen because it happens every time. And somehow, some way, the conversation, and again, we don't have to talk about this the whole time, but the conversation goes away from there are 240 hostages and we need to get them home to, here's the response to trying to get them home.

And it's no longer about Jewish lives at all. It's no longer about Israelis. It's no longer about the people at this music festival that weren't only Jewish. It's no longer about that. It's only about the response while the hostages are still there. And I think we just knew it. We were talking about this with Chris DeStefano, but why is it part of the Crazy People Handbook?

There's only three things people talk about. the FBI's out to get me, the governments have to get me, those pesky Jews. Why? I'm just like, pick a new group. Blame the Mormons. Can we find a new group? It's a losing battle. I have like a very nihilistic take on anti-Semitism that, you know, I'm not proud of,

but I think it's rooted in reality. And just the idea that like, you know, idealism and ideals that I think our generation or generations just slightly younger than ours have been raised. raised in in these very coddled, very warm, very safe American lives where like we do have like is much bullshit surrounded sort of the woke movement. I think what the woke and wokeism represented was just like we've come so far as a society that like now we can focus on these things that if we were at a global war, if it was World War II, yeah, nobody would be arguing about pronouns. But clearly like these words matter to some people. And we're at such a place in society that we

can focus on these things. Yep. And I think that that represents just how safe and warm we got. And the reality is like it takes an event like that, like a horrible terrorist attack against an ethnicity solely because of their ethnicity. Yeah. To reveal that like, no, nope, nope, idealism is warm and safe and lovely, but it is ideal. And reality, history, 6,000 years of recorded history since the Sumerians reveals that, like,

no humans are fucking violent history is violent violence is going nowhere we are a warring species like we don't have as much hair on our bodies as we did when we were fighting with sticks and stones but we are still just fucking animals

and that's not going to change could you imagine fighting with sticks and stones thanks oh Rick's got a boulder I know you know but it's like if you had to choose between six or stones or like Yeah. M1 Abram tanks. Not great. Yeah, not a great trade.

I don't know that I want to go up against a tank. But there's a great quote of good men sleep soundly in their beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. Yeah. And it's sort of becoming, you weren't expected a quote like that, though. That was nice. I keep that one. And I was marinated. Ready?

Yeah. I was rethinking it throughout Casey's talks. I'm like, I don't want to stumble here. Hey Casey, you, I'd like to, I hate that I'm pivoting out of the Jewish portion of this podcast and going to money. Where's this going? This fucking guy. But I, I'm just starting to know like your supremacy, your ability in which to like navigate. I just, I respect you as a person, as a dad and as a filmmaker as an artist, but so much so as a businessman.

And I feel like that's rare where someone has like a great artistic talent and it's also married. with an ability to navigate the business, take care of opportunities, and let's just cut right to it, become rich, rich, rich, rich, rich. So tell us about that. I mean, God, I've never felt more poor since coming back to New York.

My trajectory in New York is like I moved here with, like I lived in an SRO on the Upper West Side with no bathroom and no kitchen. It was like a halfway house. It was undocumented immigrants. And then it was people had just been let out of jail that were on parole. That's who lived in this.

I remember like taking my baby, Owen, at the time, to go to the bathroom down the hall and going to the bathroom. It was just covered in blood. And we had to like go to the next floor to go to the bath. Like that's where I lived. And before I left New York to move to Los Angeles four years ago, you know, we lived in like our fancy high rise with a doorman. So it was like that journey was so palpable. Then we moved to L.A. and came back. And now it's just like the new norm.

Like I'm not that on welfare teenager, teenage dad anymore with the. no bathroom, but like I'm a 42-year-old father of three who's like has financial security and all of this shit. So it's a very weird perspective. It's a weird place to be. It's like New York, there's a saying. And it goes, New York's a wonderful place to be when you're young and broke or when you're older rich, old and rich rather. And owning that I'm in the second part of that. Like what I love about New York now is like my comfort level. Like my kids, Hebrew school, their ballet class, their swim class, their day school, like their favorite grocery store, their favorite restaurant.

It's always in a scooter ride of our apartment. And that's like wonderful. But I think New York has this kind of leveling effect. Like when you're in L.A., you get into here like, what do you drive? You have a Bentley now, right? Yeah, Continental GT. So you're in your continental GT and like, I know how dark you keep your windows, so you don't have to see the homeless people banging on the little of money.

But in New York, like you were just saying, like you took the subway down here. It seems such a... Rare. I just want to be clear. Rare. Right. The helicopter couldn't fly today. But like the city has such like a, it's sort of just like a neutralizing effect.

Like the dude I'm in line with behind at the grocery store to buy my M&Ms, like, you know, he's like a construction worker and like the people that I like passed by to come here. Like you're just surrounded by people. We're all in this together. So the idea of like the financial security I have now and how foreign it was to a 20-year-old me, I think New York has a way of kind of stripping the relevance of that away. I go to bed every night in a wonderful apartment. I don't have to worry about my children's safety.

I don't have to worry about what we're going to eat next. Like my wife and I can, we don't, but we can do like Grubhub like seven nights a week and we could probably afford that. Sure. You know, like those are wonderful luxuries. But like the day to day, I still work out of the same office that I worked in 20 years ago when I was like a 21-year-old kid. I'm in the same physical space.

I don't worry about rent now as much as I did back then. But like the lifestyle hasn't changed so much. These shoes were like these are sneakers are like these are the American made new balance. So they're like 200 instead of 100. That's awesome. Yeah. American made. Yeah.

But like for the most part like I think that's the other reason why I like New York. Because I just you're able to feel normal here. Like those socioeconomic divides I felt were so bold in Los Angeles. They are. They're so well. defined for me. Okay. Josh built a wall around his house.

I don't have room, I don't have to land for a wall. Casey, I feel like you're so, we do speak pipes where people call and ask for advice. What is speak pipe? I've never heard that term before. We have our listeners go on speakpipe.com. Oh, speakpipe is an app that facilitates it for you. It facilitates the phone call. That's all I was curious.

You have a better one? No, it sounds usable. I just, I didn't know if that was like a term. Podcast voicemail. We can make our own. Okay, here we go. That's it. From Kelly.

Josh, give us an update on your eye surgery. I had eye surgery. It's not important. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, Casey. You get eye surgery. And I had my, I had a bit of a procedure. No.

From my under eye backs. You had plastic surgery? I mean, okay. We got to get this guy out of LA. My fucking God. He'd be at the lips next. His under eye do look amazing. They're amazing.

I'm a kid again. They looked good before, too, though. I don't know that I'm, I mean... I could show you the before. My feeling about cosmetic surgery in general is that if it makes you feel... It's the same way I feel about makeup. I'm really attracted to girls that don't wear makeup.

Pamela Anderson is hotter now. You know she doesn't do makeup anymore? That's like her new thing. And she's hotter than she's ever been. Yeah. But if someone feels beautiful and they put on makeup, then I say more power to them.

Plastic surgery, I'm not a big fan of. but if it makes you feel beautiful, then fucking God bless. Your facelift looks fantastic, my god. You're in film. I had directors of photography saying to me, it's getting hard to light you. And I was like, oh, do you have it before and after?

Yeah. Was there like knives involved? It was like a real thing. It's getting hard to light you. It's not like, I don't know about knives, maybe like small, like very low level lasers were involved. It looks amazing.

It needed to be done. A lot of people have had it done. People I won't name. But it's very common in my business. If I get plastic surgery, I would like to get a nose job to make my nose bigger. You should. Have you ever thought about a nose shop? I don't think you did that.

No, no, God, you crazy. My wife's been asking me to get a, for a while. A nose shop? No. Oh, vasectomy? But no, you don't want, you're not shutting down. I'm not terrified. You know how hard it was to find a, um,

orthopedics no what's the teeth surgeon called orthodontist no the surgeon periodontist to get my wisdom teeth out maxofacial surgeon I think it's a periodontist that's a good surgeon teeth out I'd work hard to find someone who do without putting me under oh you're wild bro that's that layered hamilton shit no I just trying to be under why I heard your teeth cracking it's terrible I did it totally awake I just it's not I'm not glutton for pain I'm just terrified of medicine in general I'm a new what am I looking at right here oh that's you all That was the day of the surgery. Yeah, bro.

Don't even. Because it's really going to hurt me if I spent 10 grand for nothing. It's much better. What do they do? That's the thing. We don't know. Crazy, right? They made him feel great.

Shut up. He's saying that because there's no scars. Wait, don't squint. Clip this. If it makes you feel good. Shut up. Let me say. Let me see.

I've seen, but it's been a while. Let me see. I mean, Josh, you're just like a super a handsome guy. Oh, yeah. They're,

walk me through. Look at these. These bags don't exist anymore. So like a puffiness here. Yes. A herniation. It's a hernius. Where you permanently look exhausted.

Right. Which I've had, by the way, like since I was 16. Which I think I have right now. Mine aren't great. No, they're great. And you got.

Another puffy, you see. No, Perfect. Can I get your facelift guy? Where did we, how did we get here? Let's do speak pipe. We accidentally listen to that speak pipe. Hi, good guys. My name is Brooke.

Question for you. My husband does this thing where. Brooke, pick up the pace. I have as an ailment or. Brooke. Holy shit, Brooke, I'm on your husband's side already. He's got to one up me with. More tiredness, more not feeling goodness, which is okay.

But I'm pregnant. Oh, shit. When I say I'm excited, I'm exhausted. My whole body hurts. And he says, mine too. It really makes me want to slam his head into a while. Am I being too much of a NBW? What is Naggy bitch wife?

Or is this justified. So let me know. as kind of huh oh did I get him oh my god he could be in my hand squeeze it so hard no

it's never gonna be in your hand no i was like so close though Brooke as a father of three like when your wife is pregnant it is just you open the gates of empathy fake empathy and you don't close them

until the child is like seven years old it's just what you have to do It doesn't mean you're necessarily completely right, Brooke, or that he's completely wrong. But Brooke's husband, if I can speak to you, mono-imano, your life will be made easier if you just validate what she's going through. You know, like when I tried to explain to Candace how much harder the pregnancy was for me than whatever she had to go through. No, because I had to witness it. You know what I mean? Sure.

Tough. Tough. No, like all we have to do is show. We just one really fun thing. It's so fun. and then we hang out for nine months and then we get a kid. That's the, for the shit that a woman has to endure to bring a child into this world as a husband,

as a supporter, as a partner, you just validate their feelings. Right? Validate them all the time. It's not easy. You have to shut your ego down as a man. Yeah. Just shut the fuck up and just validate,

especially like if she's pregnant, man. But your life is so much easier when you validate pregnant, not pregnant. Wife doesn't feel good. I'm so sorry. How can I help you? Your life is so much better. Yeah, because it's all, I mean, man or woman, husband or wife,

all anybody wants is to feel heard. Yeah. So if you're, especially like the vulnerability of a pregnant, like my wife is pregnant, she's so vulnerable. Just make her feel heard. Me too. My ankles are swollen. Me too.

All right, tubby. My wife, I remember like five months. I was like, I can't breathe. And I was like, oh, word? Basically, the baby was resting on her diet. diaphragm and which is a normal occurrence. And she spent the next four months not really taking a deep breath. So I was like, babe, whatever you need.

Yeah. Like this is what women are doing for the world. I think I got on a scale of one to jerk. I was like a six for my older daughter. And like a one or a two for my, like I was, it took the first pregnancy, like to empathize with Brooks. It is husband. It is like tough.

You know, it's tough to be that, to be kind of as selfless as possible. Yes. But like this, you've learned pretty quick that it's completely necessary and justified. They're making a baby. They can't breathe. There's a human in their body resting on their diaphragm. It's wild. All we have to do is like go pick up lunch.

And we get to eat it too. I like sweet greens. Oh, yeah. Should we end with our What are You nuts moment of the week? Please. Yeah, explain. No, you, Ben. You go.

You're better. People, places and things gripes with humanity. You came here, you commuted, you saw something, and you're like, what are you nuts? I mean, I've got one. I'm not sure if it qualifies as nuts, but... Am I? Well, you know, I mentioned I was in this studio here.

We're on Canal Street in New York City's Trinatown. I was here the other day, and I was here, we were talking mostly about marathoning because you just did the New York City Marathon, and I was with my buddy Hunter, who's like a superb athlete and ran the New York City Marathon as well. And we walked out of here,

and there's a brand new KFC downstate. Now, I didn't know that KFC had been existed in New York City, in Manhattan. I don't think I've ever seen one. My office is a block from here, and we walked by it, and we're like, can't imagine living in New York and eating that crap? Yeah, no, we're not. And then today, I was like, do you even get lunch yet, man? And he was like, nah, what are you thinking?

And I was like, KFC. And he was like, dude, I could never eat that garbage. And it made me feel, feel, like, shameful. made me feel like bad. Like a weak small man. Is that a what are you nuts thing? Can be. It can be.

Yeah, that's a good one of your nuts. Yeah, I've been thinking about it all day. I've been thinking about it. I didn't, I wouldn't get a healthy lunch, felt bad, still feel bad about it. Shouldn't go hit up, get some tenders and some taters. Go. That's like I'm picturing myself in like Canal Street, KFC in the corner by myself.

Like dip in the chicken tender into the gravy with the, like you take the tender into the mashed potatoes with gravy. Take a statin before and live your life. Okay. Do it. Raising Keynes is in the city now, too. I'm texted you guys. Yeah, we would have, we're always down to claim for a good time.

I'm down to eat something and then immediately regret it. That's the only way I eat. You don't even finish KFC before the regret sets and that's the thing about KFC. Yeah, that should be their new slogan. The regret hits quick. Kentucky Pride Chicken. My Whatty Nuts moment last week I took, I have a dog, King Charles Cavalier. Really a Sunday.

to me. Took him to the vet. We're sitting there and there are other dogs in the waiting room. It's a dog waiting room. And there's a dog. His name is Rufus. And the nurse comes out. And Rufus barks. And the owner of Rufus turns to the nurse and said, oh, he must be barking. Because the last time he was here, you stuck your finger in his ass. And she's like, she's talking to you? No, no, no. The dog. Reset? Did I not explain a problem? Whose finger went in whose ass? Nurse's finger went in Rufus's ass. Okay. Missed the whole thing. Okay. With my dog. King Charles. King Charles.

Waiting room. Other dogs. Dog parents with the dogs. Nurse comes out. And the dog, Rufus barks. Okay. And Rufus's owner says to the nurse, oh, must be because the last time he was here, you stuck your finger in his ass. Clear. Very, very loud. That's the whole thing.

What are you nuts? Why are you screaming that? About this poor nurse, she's just doing her job. I don't think that's why Rufus barked. I think Rufus barked because he's in a room with dogs in their streets. He didn't see the nurse think, oh my God, PTSD. This woman expressed my glands and put her finger in my ass. Right. What are you nuts?

The way you deliver that joke is he should have nudged his wife or his husband or whatever and said, maybe he's barking because last one year. She shoved his finger and you don't humiliate someone. Correct. You don't publicly humiliate the nurse at the vet. It was nuts. Get that woman some KFC. Quickly, what do you nuts, I just realized?

Because right before I went through the Holland Tunnel, I went to a gas station. Hey, New Jersey, only having full service gas station, what do you nuts? Hate it. It used to be because of carjackers. Is that why they did that? Yeah, so people wouldn't get out of their cars. It was all safe. You keep it locked.

The car gets gassed up. But now, now I've got to have extra interaction with Rick who's here. And he's not having a great day. And I'm like, do I tip Rick? Of course I tip Rick. I tip the barista for nothing. Rick, at least Rick did something. Rick wants a fiber, but I'm like, but I didn't choose this.

I would be pumping my own gas. What are you nuts, New Jersey? That was a better one. I mean, you didn't even have to say the gas thing. I was in New Jersey. What are you nuts? New Jersey? It's fair. New Jersey's nuts.

My last question you really quickly is you've flown all over the world in the sickest, sickest planes, cabins, first class. I just flew here actually. This is not an endorsement, but it should be, on. American Airlines flagship first class. Flagship first. There's a lot of business out there. That's their intercontinentals that they fly right.

That's exactly. Yeah. This guy knows for, this was a nice experience. It felt almost like a taste of the old school. You're here for work? What are you doing here? For this?

You're looking at it, babe. So you paid out of pocket for that? I was. What are you nuts? He didn't. Shout out America. I just want to say thank you so much. Casey, thank you for coming here.

Pleasure. It was great. You're the best. Rate review, subscribe, five stars, anything less. What are you nuts? Apple, Spotify. You'd know. Where else can you find podcasts?

Do you listen to them anywhere other than Apple or Spotify? We never know. Are you talking to me? You don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. I don't know. I'm not sure.

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