Good Guys - Dylan Sprouse & Brendan Columbus Are Here to Vape

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

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Mazzamaran, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. We are here with the Wild Men themselves. Hello. Ben, give us a proper intro. Who are we? It's just such a great name, boys. We have a new podcast. The great Brendan and Dylan are here joining us, Wild Men.

Isn't it a Dear Media podcast? Sadly is a Q-code. Daylight Media podcast. That happens. Screw dear media. Who cares? It doesn't matter. If you guys want to talk about makeup, we can.

can get you a deal here. Bro, I need some. Are these cameras 1080P? We have a couple of guys, guys. We haven't figured out if they're quite as gay as us yet. But look, we're all here together. Just wait. We're sharing a ghost energy.

That's good. I can't do energy drinks. So I've talked a lot about ghost energy. And listen, I drink an iced energy drink every morning and around 545 in the morning. You pour it out the glass. I made it sound more aristocratic than it is. It's just icy cold when I get it from the fridge. Oh, okay, okay.

And I pop that thing. And then I have my little boy, my little son, Meyer, and my little nook, and he's sipping away on his milk, and daddy's sipping away on his. It's literally my morning without the kid. Just with my French bulldog instead. It's like cold ghosts in the morning might be the best taste in the world. I actually, well, so I got an ancestry test, like, I want to say 15 years ago,

and it's updated a lot since, right? constantly updates and send you alerts that says like, these are some new traits. Like you have this or that. One of the traits it hit me with about like two years ago is that I have like an extreme genetic tolerance to caffeine. Wow. Which is a huge fucking bummer.

So actually ghost energy, all like the energy drinks are the only thing that make me feel like I'm actually getting an energy boost from it. Because I don't think, It's like caffeine and what, touring and all these other chemicals. Like vitamin B12. Yeah,

it's a bunch of different shit. It's actually a downer. It takes the edge of caffeine. That's why I don't get the jitters, right? Because the coffee's a little too much for the B-Man. Yeah. I go, be crazy.

That's interesting because I did the Ancestry.com thing, but I never met my pops and I got a bunch of half-brothers and half-sisters out there. So when they were like, you know, do you want to be accessible if people find you on here and they see that you're like part of their family tree?

And I said, no. No way. I got enough fucking friends. Like, oh, so I can be my 65-year-old brothers and sisters? Great. That's crazy. That's crazy.

That's crazy. Like, oh, like, I've had lunch. I don't need to go out to lunch. No, no, that's a bummer. To meet a, I feel like meeting a cousin at, at our age now is chill. Meeting a half sibling is a bit of a bummer. Because they're like, I think there's still an expectation of being like, bro, you're my brother. Like, shouldn't we hang out more?

and you're like, actually I've just met you and you're 50. I have no interest in hand. What if you did? What have you just met Colin today? I probably wouldn't hang out with him. I don't think you guys would be friends. No way. You're like rivals. It's like ash, ketchup and what's the other day?

Gary Oak or whatever. You're like, can you put out that cigarette? You're not smoking in my face. Yeah, I mean, the best way to describe us is that he smokes analog and I smoke digital. That's like that. So you, babe. I'm the, I'm the vape guy, which is not cool.

It's not the cool way to explain it. Says who? Pretty much anyone over the age of 14. But do you have a rip one right now? Let's go spin the vape. I'll kiss you guys. I got to crank it. Watch out.

Is this a safe place? I'm so jealous. Is this a safe place? Ben loves, oh, you're a geek bar guy, huh? Fucking this kid parties. Wow. Yes, a couple child stars taking it out vaping.

Brother, I remember the last time I saw you. Tell me more. You don't remember this. I do Samu barbecue. Samuu barbecue. I sure do. Samu barbecue.

It was quick. And I remember you, we all had a realization where we looked at each other and we were like, is that? And you were like, is that? Is this Samu barbecue? Which is crazy because Samu barbecue is like,

deep cut. Deep cut next to the 99 cent market. Like very, very deep cut. And I remember, now I don't know if you were, but I think this is one of those moments where I was like, okay, this is like my brother and I's prime weed smoking days. So we were just like baked at San Wu's barbecue, which is crazy to eat like 10 pounds of Chinese food at San Luis barbecue.

Ben, is that crazy? No, light work. Is it what the point of weed is? Yeah. Bro, so we're out there. and we looked at each other, saw you, and we're like, yo, what's up? And then we walked away, Cole and I looked and he was like,

he was baked, too, for sure. For sure. It was one of those moments where we were like, dude, this is so kinship right here. Wow, I can't believe we were just all stoned-eaten Peking Duck. It's awesome. Yeah. Best way to live.

Ben, can you believe that? No. Can we jump back for a second to the French bulldog thing? What's it like to own a French bulldog? Can he breathe? No, not at all. It's like someone left it in my college dorm. you know, when I was a senior.

So I've had Grandpa for 15 years now. He's literally, I think, the oldest living French bulldog. Like, you look up, like, what to do with a fresh bulldog when they're 15. There's just no search results because no one's had one that long. No. It's like a brand new thing. They literally, they can't breathe out the womb. Like, they just, like, they're born not to breathe.

I always look at them. I'm like, why are people still breeding them? Because they just die. It's like a war crime at this point. It is, right? Yeah, Ben, when I got him, I was like, I could call him the most expensive free dog ever. Because someone left him there, so then I just took care of him. He's had like

six lung surgeries. He has a metal spine. I woke him. He still left this morning. He's about to turn 16. It's like, it's obscene. Do you have dog insurance? I'm not allowed dog insurance because he has a history of just like terrible terrible. It's a great crime.

It's like a dog Luigi Mangione. It's me. I'm going to shoot my vet. It's such a crack of shit anyways. It doesn't cover anything. I had a King Charles Cavalier that died at seven from rectal cancer.

Oh, I'm sorry. He didn't poop for two days. We took him in and he had like a cancerous thing the size of a golf ball. And I've been paying for pet insurance for seven years. I'm like, does it cover anything? They're like, oh, no, not that. It's like, similarly.

What does it cover? What do you mean? I came from a bulldog family as well. And yeah, they'll just tell you straight out. They're like, this is, this doesn't cover the. plethora of things that your bulldogs are going to get into. But King Charles Cavalier Spaniels, they're right up there in like the monster category with bulldogs, I think.

You think a lot of people are like they, because they look cuter so they forget. But they're equally as inbred. I mean, they're named after King Charles. For sure. They've been bred forever. And if they're, you know that they're a real King Charles when they have the fingerprint of the queen on their, on their forehead. But they don't have that spot.

It's not in bread enough. So yeah, no, they're inbred. And they also, they die pretty early, like 12, 13, but they're cute as a button. They are really cute. They're very soft. Very soft. It feels weird for me to say that out loud, but they're extremely soft. Yeah.

You ever pet a dog too hard? They let you know. So you guys have a podcast together. Tell us about how you met. Tell us about this bro that grew into a pod. You go. Okay, because every time he tells the story, I think it's different. Oh, good.

I lie. You get a little more fun. Now, yeah, we met at NYU. We were doing the Great American Challenge, which is a challenge where you have to finish, what, three large pizzas, a big ounce of weed, 100 beers, what is? 40 cigarettes. And a puzzle, right?

Oh, yeah, and most important part, well, a thousand piece puzzle. Yeah. So my sister invited him over. They were friends first. Yeah. You and Violet. And she's like, oh, I think you like my brother. So we'd come over.

She was scared of introducing me to Brennan because she said, I'm worried that when you guys meet, you'll never hang out with me again. And I was like, that can't possibly. Well, Violet should be sitting here. Because I'm not. People. But then we, I mean, we complete the challenge, I believe.

It was late night. We were the puzzle guys. We were the puzzle guys, yeah. We had to put people in shifts. Some people were on weed duty. Some people were on beer duty. Some people were on puzzle duty. We were beer.

Yeah. Puzzle beer. We moved through there. And then we became close friends. Look at us go. What did you say? What did you study at NYU? I studied video game design while I was there, which was kind of not a category.

I went through Gallatin to do it, which is the school of individualized study there. Right. And then a year after I graduated, they made it an actual program at Tisch, which was kind of funny. No, it's like the best in the world of video game design. Like it's a big part of NYU now, but you like, yeah, you missed it to the boat by a year. I know. Funny enough, they actually like brought me into the, they brought me into the process of trying to design. the video game design program there in the curriculum.

They're like, do you think this would have worked? And so that was actually very cool. And yeah, now they have like one of the best video game design programs out there. It's very cool. But then I, you know, did minored in some creative writing, studio art. Gallatin was one of those things where it's wild. It's for people who were like, what the hell do I do? I'm 18 and you just kind of pick and choose.

But you also can make your own. So you could be like an ancient ship discoverer. and they would put classes in order and that would be your major. Right. Yeah, you know. There were a few. Those are liberal arts.

You fucking sick. Well, I'm in Tish making fun of it. Did you go to film school? Yeah, I went to Tish. I did screenwriting. Wow, that's not, but one of the best programs in the world. Oh, excellent. I loved it.

You know, not too shabby. Mm-hmm. And, you know, from screenwriting, I got into writing comic books because, you know, it's hard to sell script. So we were adapting them in the comic books. And me and Dylan worked together at heavy metal on writing a bunch of comics. Yeah.

And so that was, we did that together for about four or five years. And then Dylan called me up probably six months ago. I was like, hey, man, you know, I got a podcast. I need a co-host. I'm like, so Babs and Cole said no. I was like, I was the third call for sure. But I was like, I'll take the third call. First call.

Are we, are, is your wife cool with Babs? Because I, my mom is Barbara. Really? She don't like Babs. She, Barbara, my Barbara prefers Babs. I love that. Yeah. And she's Hungarian and in Hungary, Barbara is a much more common name.

And but everybody shortens it there to Barbie. Barbie is like a thing that like most, if you're a Barbara, you're Barbie in Hungary. So Barbara Babs does not like Barbie really doesn't prefer Barbara prefers Bavs. Could you imagine if they make the dark horror version of, the Barbie sequel and it's it's Barbara. Barba. Greta Gerwig. Set in Hungary.

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That's www.m-M-W.minky, m-K-Y-K-K-Tor.org. I want to ask you because, like, I've only seen this, and I have a lot of respect for it. Like, I wish I could have done it. Like Miranda Cosgrove, who played my sister on Drake and Josh, she went to USC and was it right on the heels of I Carly. And I, like, gave her so much respect because, like, for me, I did the typical route of like, I'm not going to do that. It'll just work. And in hindsight, I wish I'd had that experience.

Yeah. But I also sit to Miranda, like, are you crazy? Like, you're super famous. Like, you're going to walk around college and be like, I'm like, I'm going to walk around college and be, I can I just like, yeah, it won't be a big deal. So what was that being so public before you went to college? Did people hit you up a lot? Well, everyone at New York acts like they're too cool for anything anyway.

So we didn't actually experience much of an issue with that. But I think, as you know, too, our shows, both of our shows, which were kind of out at the same time, they're aimed at an audience younger than our own age. Right. So it was only starting to become kind of an issue, and I use the word issue lightly, because I don't think it really was, towards the latter end of college for us. Because that was more the core demo that was watching the show when we were growing up, right? It was usually our show was aimed at probably a year, two, three years younger than we actually were.

Yes. Like perpetually throughout the life. When you walked into my apartment, I, I didn't recognize Dylan. If you walked in, I would have lost my fucking mind. You know, that was a big difference. Because you were, what, your show was a little two years before his, right? Probably.

Yes. And so that three-year age gap made sense then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd be there and not for you, you know? Exactly. Exactly. And I think that was like, like Dakota Fanning was also going to school at the same time with us at NYU. Wow.

And it was a way bigger deal. A lot of fire, dude. Yeah. I mean, Dakota's Dakota. And it's NYU and she's Dakota. Like, that's very. Hi, bro. Exactly.

She was in some unbelievable actor. But I, and then we'll move on from this because I don't want to talk about it too much. But I will say, sorry to interrupt. I do think grass is greener kind of scenario a lot of the times. Like I've talked to actors who were like, do I go to college and decided to stay in the industry? Because I think at that point in time, all their teams are like, you just got to keep it while the I am's hot. You're like, well, I guess. but then the ones who go to college

are also like maybe I should have kept acting instead did you feel that? Not really no because both my brother and I were kind of like I don't really care to do this either way we never like we were so young when we started it wasn't really it wasn't really our own choice of acting and so we discovered both of us

and I speak a lot in plurals because you know that's what we do But we both kind of discovered that we did love acting, liked being and performing and entertainers, probably around the time we were in college, right? Or afterwards, even. So, because then it was more of our choice, and we had more agency over it. And so what do you mean wasn't your choice?

I think it was just a more mature choice, right? You know, when we were starting the sweet life, we were 11, and we had acted every year of our lives up to that point. Wow. So, you know, at some point or another, it started as like a pragmatic way for our, you know, divorced mother to actually make some money on the side. And then it blossomed into a career. But throughout all of that, there wasn't really much conscious agency of what we were doing.

We were like, oh, we're kids going to school or we're, you know, we're going to work. This is just what we do. And then it wasn't until college when we were like, there's a world of entertainment. TV and film and things that we like personally that we could explore, but we haven't really been told about these sides of the industry or how to pursue maybe like an indie career or how to, you know, write or how to direct or how to do any of these things, which I don't have an interest in anyway. But then it really kind of blossomed into our own feelings at that point in time.

I think it's fascinating too because what you just said, and you're the only person that can relate because I feel the same way, People always talk about Drake and Josh, and they'll be like, oh, at the height, at the height, what was it? And I always tell them, like, the height of it was when I was 29. And it had been, we had finished filming 10 years before because that's when everyone had grown up. Yeah.

And shows like yours and mine that works and reruns and new generations find it, but then the people you want to know you get older. Yeah. And suddenly, and the internet and you're memed, and there's clips and all these things. But I always have a tough time explaining to people like at its height or when we were on the show, you know, 12-year-olds were watching it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You weren't going to the club and getting right in. No, no. You know, you weren't relevant to that age. No, no. I was not, let's just put it, let's just put it frankly. I didn't have any success with the ladies until I was like 20. Okay, I wasn't like, I wasn't. Same.

Same. It wasn't real. It wasn't said same. I literally met my wife at 20. She also went 10. I think you guys might have crossed over. And I married my wife at 18 at NYU. And I married her.

So that was, yeah. Literally the first girl that gave me a smidge of attention, I married. So that was. Welcome to the club, right? That's awesome. Do you guys have kids?

There was no benefits to. reap. You know, like, do you guys have kids? Oh, sorry. Do you have kids? He's expecting. Yeah. You're expecting. You're expecting. Like within an hour. So we might have the problem. Really? Are we in like the final countdown? We're in the final count town right now. She's ready to pop. You're first. Yeah. She's huge. How you feeling? Um, I'm feeling really good. Yeah. But then again, I don't have eight pounds of baby in my belly rent. So, I mean, there's only as good as you can feel. I'm nervous for her, you know. I think that's the thing, but I'm excited.

That's like really how you have kids. Three, yeah. He's got a beautiful little boy. And now might Josh be a good time for me to announce that Claudia is pregnant with our second? Wow. Congratulations. Surprise. Yes.

Oh, that's awesome. My's little dude. Let me tell you, it's going to change your life. You seem like a really good dude. It's the best thing. Josh can say the same thing. thing. It's the greatest thing in the whole world. You're going to meet dads that are fucking miserable and hate being dads. Don't listen to them. It's great. It's great. It's like the best

thing ever. I'm super excited. Yeah, you should be. You should be. Like I rediscovered just like a different version of myself when I, when I, when I had him. It's, it's awesome. It's awesome. I mean, you seem like, that's the thing is I, I've been blessed enough to only meet people who have had kids and are like, I love this. They're saying the same things as you, which they're very excited. They get to see their kids smile. They get to see them learn how to laugh.

I'm like, that sounds awesome. So we're really excited. That's any day. Wow. You have any kids? No, I got married 15 days ago. Wow. So Wild men had big life changes all it wants.

Together since 18, though. No, met at 18. Little gap in between maybe 10 years or something. wasn't. I mean, you had some fun in that captain. I wish. Yeah, he was shot the world. That's why I tell her. I was like, wow, watch out.

He was busy nursing grandpa. He had no time to do anything. He had no time to do anything. He was a little building him, you know. Wow. Where'd you get married? San Francisco, City Hall. Yeah.

So we did Dylan flew in and had to fly back out just a case on the baby. So you were there for like, you know, a couple hours. He was good. He got ready with me and then went to the ceremony. He saw the speeches and bounced. Just a small. No, it was, we got, you could do the whole city hall. So it's like all my friends, a family were there.

All the wild men came. Yeah, it was good. Love it. How did you and your wife reconnect after 10 years? I DM'd her on Instagram. I was in Prague. My dad was doing Nassfroda with my sister. And I was like, well, it's worth a shot, you know.

So I was on the wrong time zone. So she was probably getting my like late night DMs at like 2 p.m.LA time, which is not a good look, I don't think. Well, it's actually probably a better. Getting them at 2. He's thinking of me at 2. It's like, no, I'm in Prague. Wow.

Yeah, well, she didn't think it was a booty call before. Like, I'm just here on the set of Natsmirato. Seriously. And, you know, at 18, like, when you first met your wife, was there, like, just a whisper, a wave of, like, I bet one day we'll be married. Like, really, it sounds like I'm lying, but I think I kind of knew.

Yeah, because it was Why? The connection was so strong. We talked for like 12 hours the first time we met. She chased me down into an elevator and she was like, oh, hi, I'm Brittany. I was like, oh, great.

We talked for 12 hours. It was awesome. First time I probably talked to a girl for more than 20 minutes that's my sister or my mom. So that was big. Freshen year of NYU. Terrified.

Wow, I'm going to do great. It was all downhill from there. Wow. Look at that. Just a bunch of married stiffs in there. I know, right? It's good. We're old.

I like it. It's good. great. I always think people are going to be shocked when I tell him I'm married. They're like, no, Breni, you're 34. I feel like I'm the youngest guy ever to get married. You know, I've talked. You know what's funny is I recently talked to one of our single buddies who I won't name.

And he's like, it just seems like a, everything seems like a lot of responsibility. I just kind of like want to be free and do all this. And I'm like, that sucks. Yeah. I was like, don't you want to like bite your teeth? into something at all? Like, I don't know, just like... Biting Babs?

No. She bites me a little. She's kind of vampiric, but... That's cool. It's a lug bite. Sink your teeth would probably be better, but sink your teeth into like some sort of what you perceive is sacrifice.

Because if you think it's like sacrificing your freedom, like, is that how all good things happen? You can't just fucking trip and fall into everything. You have to build something. You have to actually commit your... to building a life. Commit yourself to building a career. Commit yourself to building a relationship.

So when I hear people talk and they're just like, nah, I don't ever intend to getting married. I don't ever intend to really like, I'm just going to be a serial dater. They're so fucking stupid. How long have you been with Babs? How long have you guys been together? It'll be this, this next year will be 11 years.

So how much have you learned? I've been with my wife for 14 years. We're the same age. How much have you learned about your wife this year that you didn't know about her. Oh, a ton. I mean, especially with the pregnancy or, you know, that's obviously a huge life change.

But I would also say that like, I feel like I've learned just as much about myself in reflection. Yes. You know, I think that's what relationships kind of do, right? There are a little bit of like through the fire and flame. You learn a lot about yourself. And I feel like all previous relationships to the one that you feel like is kind of finalization.

It's just like a, you know, it's a training arc. It's not really like you're identifying what is really the thing that you need and like. I bring it up because these like idiots. I also have like the 34 year old perpetually single guy. He like love bombs girls. He thinks it's cool and he just like moves on. And it's like, do you understand that you're going to grow with a person? The person that you meet today, you don't, this isn't even her.

Like she's giving you the version of her that she thinks you want. that she thinks you want to see and she's going to become a completely different person. That's why I can't believe it. When you hear somebody gets engaged every three fucking months, I'm like, are you out of your mind?

This is a stranger. The amount of mistakes you make in a relationship. It's wild. Three months is crazy. It has been crazy. It's been 10, 11 years of like an intense love and being absolutely head over heels with my wife.

And also so much learning, I couldn't imagine trying to do any of that again. Yeah. It'd be crazy. The amount of shit like you trip and fall into and have to learn together to get over. I mean, you're just talking about a guy who's like three months, he goes, oh, that's crazy. Like, oh, maybe I'm love bombing and dating someone and sure and sure. Even when you think you know them, you have five years to go. Yeah.

You have way more shit to get over. It's crazy. I always say that there's no such thing as love at first sight. There's lust at first sight. And people always like, well, how did you know? And I was like, well, it was revealed over time because I would get food poisoning nine months in and she would bring me saltines. It's amazing. Or like she would go through something, you know, at her job that made her frustrated.

Like you give, you stay together long enough. You give each other opportunities to show up for each other and your love deepens, right? That to me is how it grows. The little simple things. I think it's the food poison. I got food poison in Mexico and Brittany took care of me. It's like you almost should intentionally get food poisoning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And just test her. It's like for the phantom threat or something. You know, just keep getting sick. Yeah, make yourself sick. Exactly. Then see how that feels. Yeah. It's better than getting engaged after three months.

Yeah, man. I don't know what I would be like. I feel like I would be like rather feral without my wife. But it's probably when you had just met her. I met your wife in 2016. you're ready for this? I had just gotten engaged the day before and L'Oreal

brought me out for a brand trip to Paris Fashion Week and so I'm there with my wife and they were like, do some fun things with the models and I was like, the models are going to hate me. Fiance's going to hate it's been a day. I was like, what is happening?

I'm with my Fiance. I'm like there and I'm just like, hey, you guys want to do some goofy funny? Literally, I'll never forget this. L'Orielle, they... This is so embarrassing. I did like some funny picture. It's my nightmare, by the way.

It's like, time to be a goofball. Brother, welcome to my life. Like, I literally, I took a funny picture that one of the PR people from Loria was like, this is so fun, I'm going to put this on L'Oreal's Instagram page, okay? Oh, no. In feed. They put me in feed. people's phones start ringing

it was the head of L'Oreal going who the fuck is this on our Instagram what is happening and they were like isn't it funny silly fun and he goes no take him off did they take it down?

Yeah oh Jesus that social team got fired but I did do some funny silly sketches for like five minutes I at least know my place and I would sit to each of the models one who happened to be Barbara. I was like,

this is going to take 90 seconds. I'm sorry, we'll just be silly, funny. And she was so game and kind of be nice. Yeah, she was funny, silly. She was cool.

Part of the thing that, you know, we bonded on is, is Barbara's been in the scene for like a very long time, similar to like us. Yeah. Right?

Where it's just like she's been a model since she was like 13. So there's still like a, there's still like an old dog in there. You know, we're like, yeah, I've seen it.

I've done it. I know. we're going to do silly fun stuff right now. I'm like, oh, that's like, we bonded on it. So I'm sure she was like more than game to help. Yeah, thank you. Some weren't. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Cash App.

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Because we always say it's pretty hard to, what, explain the Wildman podcast. It's been fun because initially we just sat down and recorded and I figured, you know, the podcast company would have us try out or something. But no, we just filmed our first episode just sitting down. We were not maybe the best at interviewing initially. No, probably. Yeah, we interrupted a lot of people and we had like, you know, 10 guests the first couple months. And we just, what, we invite people on.

They sit down. We hang out. We tried to make it very chill, relax. I'd almost say that we're kind of, we're definitely a hang podcast. Like, we just kind of mellow out. I think what we've identified now is that, well, first off, he does all the research. I don't do any research because I'm a dumb guy, but neither of us do research. We're going to get along.

So, but we're much more, we've noticed that the responses that we've gotten to our interviews are largely like, this is very, fun to see this person who I came to watch being interviewed in this light because it's very frivolous, fun, hang. We're usually, I mean, the same way that we're talking stupid to you guys right now is the same way that we talk to kind of everybody. And I think it disarms a lot of people in a positive way. I think a lot of people who are kind of coming in and ready to show a side of themselves, which isn't really seen that often, more is the side that you sit around a table,

breaking bread or drinking a beer with. I think that's kind of been the vibe. That's our show. Josh, it's the same show. Now, if I can give it, if I can give some advice,

don't have on middle age comics, okay? None of those. Okay. You guys had John Taffer on last week. I loved it. He was fantastic. He's perfect.

I was so jealous when I saw that. I was listening on the way over here. Taffer's perfect, but don't have on the guy that needs to make his bones on your show that wants to do his stand-up set. He's not going to work. Okay?

You know, he's not going to work. We talk about this, a little bit. Stand-ups are the hardest, I think. Have you ever... Can be. Yeah.

Have you guys ever talked to a stand-up who's possessive over his own laughter? Have you ever... This is something that we've been working through recently trying to... I don't even know what that means. Okay, I'll break it down. Some people, when their comics, have noticed this, because their currency is laughter, they feel very possessive to laugh.

So they're very controlling... controlling over having fun or laughing in a way that seems like it's out of their control. And it's a really weird hostile vibe. And I've noticed this a lot at like actual comedy shows, like in green rooms, you're hanging with your boys and you're talking. They'll be kind of like afraid to laugh at things that other people are laughing at because it's their currency. It's their job.

And that might be part and parcel of what. weird you out about middle-aged comics because that is that is kind of their thing do you think though i think what can happen is is that they're so ahead of the joke that they're constantly and they're judging your joke and thinking like well was that hacky was that easy was at a high level of joke yeah that's true so much going on and then of course they're weak and threatened so threatened so threatened they just like hate the fact that like are we trained comics no but we're fucking funnier than them. Sorry. Yeah. Like, I don't like, I'm sorry.

It happens. It happens. I think it's people that are really funny and confident. Like, obviously we've had on Miss Pat Dream Guess. Oh, geez. She's amazing. Even Matt McCusker was amazing. Oh, wow. You had McCusker. That's awesome.

Macsker was great. By the way, so many great comics. Like John Marco. Catherine. We're not talking about any of ours so far. No, we haven't. We had a man of Scalco on recently. he was amazing. Oh, yeah.

I'm not going to name who sucked, but there are some of the just like. I'm going to go through now and minus those names out. Okay, one of them's in the Sandler universe. That's it. It's all I'm saying. Probably know him. Probably know. Big Daddy.

That's all I'm saying. Oh, true. What a great movie. You were fantastic in it. I don't remember anything. I'm sure. It's like, me drink a job. How many episodes do you?

Did you guys do on drugs and big daddy too? Is that I just don't think I've ever come off of. Yeah. We black out. You know, it happens. How many of the journey? Did you guys just crush like 700 episodes? No.

We only made 56. That's fucking absurd. Isn't that crazy? No. That's a lie. Yeah, dude. There was in one movie that was like three episodes. But I think in total there's like 60 episodes.

That's crazy. You know how jealous of that I am since we did like 300 for no reason? Drake and Josh, there was no residuals on kids TV, none for you either. That's the clip. Well, by the way, by the way, let's cry together. For our TV shows. There was residuals. Brendan.

It just wasn't for us. Poor them. I feel so bad. I know the guy you got. They're not. You know, you got it. Every episode. Brendan Ben, you ground us.

No, look, we're only saying this because I want sag to actually fucking work. I want sag to actually put their money with a milk. I was 14. I didn't even know what $5 was. But it also wasn't like, I mean, it's not like, oh, you made a. No, I feel you though, but like it wasn't some crazy salary either. Like, no. The first check we made on the Amanda show, Drake and I was $3,000 a week, which of course is,

which is great. An amazing living, but no one's, no one who makes $3,000 a week where you're taking home half of that after percentages and taxes goes, you're set up for life. No. If you make $60,000 a year, no one goes, wait, why are you still working? No, I know. There is, I think the mystique, which is actually true, is that I think it's the perceived ability to have something like this for the rest of your life because of the market and the inherent

marketing. Yes. Right. You can have opportunity presented to you for the rest of your life. This was the way that I think Disney Channel appealed to a lot of people. And similarly Nickelodeon and all of those channels at that time, there's a, yeah, you'll make $60,000 a year, but you will also be able to have a podcast. So this is your residuals, guys.

I'm not thriving. Man, you didn't say anything. Fuck that. We're all successful. Having a hit podcast, that's the fucking way. Dude, there's a reason we were at Sam Wu's and not Dadong. I mean, we get like... We're at Sam Wu's not business your job.

Exactly. Fucking 99 cent market, bro. We were at Sam Wu barbecue, bro. Ben, imagine, like, this place is equivalent to New York would it be an Astoria. It is true. It's on victory in Sepulveda. By the way, it's bomb. It is so good. It's so good. It's like we were keeping a real stoned asses.

Stoned asses eating Chinese. Weren't you guys with your family though? Yeah. Hell yeah. You and I'm going to dinner with dad. Dad never understood. No inkling whatsoever. Never understood just thought we were being silly. Really? My dad's kind of a hard out. So he was just like I don't understand what that's about. He was grumpy eating either. They just really like the chow fun. More hot and sell a soup. Yeah. He didn't really get it. So, still tough. Brendan, can I ask a quick question about your pops? Of course, well, because he asked about you on the way over here.

Really? Yes, because I called him, I called him and my mom, you know, just driving over. And he said you and him had auditions together. Oh, I auditioned for him. Percy Jackson, I think. Did I? I think you might have. That's what he said.

He couldn't place it either. He was looking at the IMDB. He thought maybe I love you, Beth Cooper? That was it. Okay, that's it. I met him. Did you? Okay, he remembers.

So are you familiar with Brendan's dad? No, I do no research as we've, I apologize. I apologize. I just knew if you want to gas them or you want me to. You gas him. I gas him. Chris Columbus, one of the greatest directors ever, Home Alone, Harry Potter.

I mean, what else is? Doubtfire. Your favorite movie? Oh, was that your favorite movie movie? Oh, your tea, sugar in your tea. Now we can make a sequel. Good. You fucking.

I have a true. It's favorite. It really is my favorite. Oh, really? Well, they're doing the, they found all the deleted, because Robin used to shoot so much film, obviously. They found all the film. They shot like millions and millions of feet of film in a storage container.

So they're rebuilding possibly like an X-rated, R-rated cut. No. Because Robin was so dirty on set. Yeah, so they found all this old film. Why is your, sorry, why is your hand movement for film this? Because it's a real? Is this good? No.

Reels for this. Yeah, but. I'm talking about like taking out of the room. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right? That's a cylinder. It's a,

but, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to have. You know, not the 70 mil feet. Wow, that's a hard drive. That's going to be so sick.

Yeah. So that's very excited for downfire. But yeah, no, I wanted to hear about the audition, though. I, so I remember I had just done, this is one of my, like,

I didn't do a lot of stupid things. And so this was one of those, where I had just come off this movie, The Wacken. I was going to ask about it because it was Jonathan Levine, one of my favorite directors. Really? Oh, the night before we watch every year. You know, warm body fucking rocks, 50-50, obviously.

Yeah, amazing. And the Wackettis, me and my dad saw it at the Kabuki in San Francisco. Probably like Friday, Saturday came out because I remember the trailer specifically in high school. It had such a cool vibe. And you have that subway dance, right? Yeah. We loved it.

Yeah, I was going to bring that up either way. So I was excited. Well, thank you. So it was like the first time I'd had any kind of like a little bit of, momentum. And so, and that your dad saw and said, they're like, oh, there's this movie and it's Chris directing it. And, like, they do this thing when you have like a little bit of momentum. And they go, well, they want to meet you. You know, you don't have to audition.

They want to meet you. And I met and we had this nice meeting. And then they were like, well, now they want you to audition. But like, you have momentum. So, like, we think this should be an offer. And I was like, I think it should be too. And then your dad was like, no. And he was like, I'd like to see it. Which he was so within his right to do, and I wish I had auditioned.

Did you end up not? I didn't. So it was just a pass. We just had a nice meeting. In Los Angeles? Okay, because we lived in San Francisco my whole life. And so I was only down here like three times my entire life before I moved here after college. So he must have flown down because David O. Russell had that script before dropped out.

And the pre-production was mostly done. And my dad hopped in at the last minute. Oh, wow. And he really enjoyed making it. Now it's sad because Hayden passed. And, you know, she's the star that movie. Yes. Which was, so he was really upset.

about that. But no way, I mean, I'm sure you, I wonder you were the main role probably. That would have been fantastic. I think so. Paul Rudd got it. Yeah. No. Paul Rudd, not Rust. Right? Paul Rust. A rust, not run. Same four-letter word, yeah. That's, just not. Who the hell is Paul Rust? You're getting glorious bastards as well. He's like, he's a very funny looking guy. The Judd Apatow, wasn't he the show with love for? Yeah. The one... Love, I think it's called. Yeah, they went for three seasons.

It's really funny. He's a funny-looking guy. I know he was laughing like you expect to see Paul Rudd and you're just caught. It's very funny, very tough. He's really funny guy. He's just out of your saying it's funny looking. It's a mean guy. Mean guy.

He's out of your know. Robin Williams lived in San Francisco too, right? He was like my godfather. So he was really, really close. Every weekend we're over there. He had his son, my age, Cody, who went to the same schools as me. So we saw Rob. and nonstop, like, vacationing.

And he was just like, the high energy you saw times by 10 in real life, too. Like, you couldn't finish a board game with him. He was wild. Funny's guy ever. I heard he could, like, be both where he could also, like, he could take over the room and want to just, like, make everyone stay. And then also, like, be quiet and observant. Did you see that side of him, too?

Yeah, I think as a kid, he probably was just performing for us all the time. So I definitely saw him more loud. But he was, yeah, like, you know, I'd see him after school. We'd get Pokemon cards together. Awesome. It was just, yeah, and everyone recognized him. He was the nice guy to everyone. He was Robin Williams.

It was crazy. Did your dad ever tell you about, like, how did he, like, so you have the script for Mrs. Delfire, right? Is that character already formed by Robin? Does he do it in tandem with your dad? Did they discover it together? So they, it was based on a book initially, and then, you know, they rewrote the script. And my dad got to see Robin for the first time.

They were seeing Richard Pryor with my grandma. And my grandma was like this small little little. woman from Ohio. My dad takes her to the comedy store because he's doing, I forget what he's doing at the time, but they go in and it's Richard Pryor and my grandma almost passes out. She's like this guy's insane. He's the craziest guy ever. Dying laughing though. She loved it. And then after

him came out, Robin. And my dad was like, the energy changed and I was like, I've seen something. Obviously he did Mork and Mindy and everything, but he was this new level of just like, I mean, his comedy was so good. So my dad saw that and then I think they had a meeting before Doubtfire

and the script came in and then on set, you know, and he just clicked, and Robin would do, every take was completely different. You know, so he was just, he would just go off. Everything was Robin. So, I mean, I think my dad kind of set up the shots and they just, you just got to let him go. Let him go.

But, like, would Robin be like, I'm thinking of this voice? I don't think, I don't think he knew until it was great. It was like, my dad always says it was like watching a guy get possessed. He'd call action, shum, like an electric fault would hit Robin, and there'd be someone else inside. And he would, like, he could channel this otherworldly, funny entities. So much talent. It's crazy.

Quickness, too. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's wild. It was just, he was the best. When Cole, Cole and Zelda works. Zelda's the older sister. Yeah, I know Zelda. Oh, you know Zelda.

Okay, yeah. Love Zelda. When they were, Cole and Zelda worked together on this movie and went to go hang out at Zelda's house and she would show me Robbins. She knows I'm a nerd about all these, all the old nerdy stuff. And she would show me Robbins colloquy. collection of like nerdy items, which was remarkable to me. I'm a big Warhammer guy, and he's got like fully painted 3,000 point Eldar army, like,

in the house, but also like was first generation nerd. And the way I would explain this is like first generation DND books, first generation Pokemon cards, first generation Warhammer. This kid's named Zelda. Every video game console. This is my son Donkey Kong It's unbelievable Way meaner name

Way meaner name Donkey Just don't call him Donkey Middle name Kong DK But just the The collector inherent

Within him It was like It's just It was a pipe dream So he was the first guy Playing online video games And I remember he had this bookcase

That you would open up And it was a secret room in the back As a kid I was like this is the coolest fucking thing I've seen But he'd go on and change his voice and play, you know, Counterstrike, early RTS games,

but no one knew was Rob. So he had this whole online friend. So that kind of was his escape was the initial digital world. Whoa. Yeah, which is cool, I thought. So cool. And what was it at the height of Harry Potter, right?

Like, just when the books were out and they decided they were going to make a movie. Yeah. I mean, it's remained the biggest thing on Earth. But they decide they're going to make a movie. I remember I thought I was going to play Harry. I was like bad as hell. 12 years old and I'm like, I have this.

Is it? I thought I was going to play Ron. I thought my dad's doing easy. Yeah. Should be a layup. Yeah. We got to talk to your mom. Exactly.

Bullshit. A little handout. But like, and they literally, and so it's the, the biggest IP in the world. Yeah. And they asked your dad to direct the movie. Was he scared? He was, he was terrified. I mean, because my sister, Eleanor, found the books for him, like, a couple years before.

And then he got, you know, the chance to go out. and audition for it. He rewrote the entire script in like three days, just a show with camera angles and stuff, just to show he could do it. He's coming off of home alone with the kids. So I think that was his push too. He gets it and then he was, you know,

he was, what, 36 or something, probably? Same. Yeah, crazy. And we flyed, and then we moved to London for three years, yeah. Three years in time. Wow. And three years for the first two, and he produced the third,

but we left just because we were too far from home, I think, you know. He'd fly, we'd go to Chicago every summer. He'd fly from set up. Friday night to Chicago, leave Chicago Sunday night, fly back to London. So he would just get two days with us every week. He was just the best. If you're intrigued by all this, we had the utter pleasure of him interviewing his own

dad in the show for like four hours straight to go complete play by play of how it worked, how everything got started from like the start of his career to now. And I'm very excited. But I will say the funniest thing about Potter is. is so, you know, after school, I go to the Great Hall, I'm doing my homework there. And, like, you just go to set every day. See my dad. And I come home one day from school, I go, mom, my buddy Cyrus, his dad works at the Toblerone factory.

I go, I wish dad had a cool job like that. I fucking hated this going to set. I was like, this is boring. There's a bunch of robes everywhere. Like, it stinks, man. I was like, I wish you worked at a chocolate factory. Ben, should we get to a, what do you know? We should. I'm really, I'm just blown away. It's so, I love being in New York sometimes because I get to just like sit and listen and the fact that somehow this all became about Robin Williams, who Josh knows is like my fucking, he's my guy. And I don't, and I don't have that like relationship with too many people on screen. But I, I loved him and just hearing the details of that. It's super special. He was amazing. So, but yeah, what are you nots are gripes with people, places and things? You're walking down the street. You see a lady bear.

foot you're like, what are you fucking nuts? There's also plenty of stuff. It happens on an airplane, typically tons of what are you nuts is. I can go first. You guys can think of one. We'll go first. Take time, big or small, anything sticking in your cross.

The fact that the UN is in New York. I'm sorry. UN week is the worst week. By far, no question. Why isn't the UN in fucking Africa? Why isn't it somewhere with a lot of land? We already are in a gridlocked city. They took away all of our lanes and put bus lanes and bike lanes.

You already can't fucking drive. You can't do anything. All of a sudden, we're going to block all of your streets. We're going to not even let you walk the city that you can't drive and you can't walk in. And it's so easily avoidable. Why the fuck is it here? What are you nuts?

Put it somewhere else. I like that. My buddy works at the UN. I just went, I visited him there. And it is, once you get in, it's scary.

I was, you know, I was on prescriptions for like three months in the night before we had a lot of beer. So it was my first hangover in like six months. And I'm going to explain the U. I'm on prescriptions. I'm on prescriptions too. Oh, I got a, what I got?

What was it? What was it? Staff infection, wasn't it? Yeah, something really bad. I got a big cut on my arm. Can't just say everyone's going to think you can't SRI. I mean, I'm like, I'm like, gang gang gang. Sorry, am I not supposed to interrupt?

What are you not? It's so funny. I'm on prescriptions. My wouldy in that moment is the other day I was at liquor store, probably buying a ghost energy. And I buy it and the guy behind the counter goes, phone number? He goes, for what?

He goes, rewards. I go, hey man, you're a liquor store. I'm with you. You don't need a rewards program. Just be a liquor store. What are you guys? Like, no, you can't have my number, guy. That's a really good one. I was just on my honeymoon in Hawaii.

So I was walking around a lot of the beach. And so my, what are you nuts? Can I have saying that right? What are you nuts? I have to feel like a New Yorker. What are you nuts? Why isn't the flip-flop attachment one toe over? When I walk, it goes sideways.

There's sand kicking out everywhere. If it was in the middle, I feel like it would be flatter. Yeah. The thong. The thong should go one toe. One toe closer to the center. I'm trying to visualize it. You do sound like an inventor.

I feel like you're on to something. We could sell it, guys. We could. Okay, I'm in. Let's reinvent the flip-flop. It happened to here. Both of our Wadia Nuts actually have to do with clothing. Good, good, no.

My Whatia Nuts is, why are you wearing clothes ironically? Okay. It bothers the hell out of it. Like movie poster? I'm like, you spent money on an Ed Hardy brand that you clearly dislike just so that you could wear it ironically as a joke? This seems pointed at Cole. It literally does that.

It does grind my gears, but I go, and I see it all around like Las Feles and Silver. Like, I'm like, you spent money on juicy couture because you hate it. So you're supporting the brand that you dislike for a fraction of a giggle. Like, not even a real laugh. Like, people go, isn't it funny they're wearing something Italians really like? Right. I, to me, that's a what do you nuts? What are you nuts?

That is good. What are you nuts. These are great ones. Just wear it for real. Just say you like it. Who gives a shit? I'm not going to care at the bar anyway. So if you're wearing this for my pleasure, I don't give a shit.

Affliction is sick. Tap out, bro. Do you go to Thousand Oaks? Affliction is the sickest shit ever. Put your sunglasses on the back of your head. Easier to see that way. Yeah. Enemies behind you at all time.

Yeah, my ops. Like the spots on a jaguar. Years. Yeah. Here's them all. Guys, tell everyone where they can come listen to your podcast. We love having you. We love having them.

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We do video. Our videos look great. And they're on YouTube. So go and subscribe on there. That's what they always tell us to say. We always like to. promote the YouTube because we just are naturally inclined

to make weird faces and they feel like you should see those. I liked watching you guys. On Spotify, it just popped up. It was great. We had a good time. Well, thanks so much for having us. It was great.

Ben, I'm jealous. I wish I was in New York. I wish I was with you guys next time. I will be you guys were fantastic folks. This episode's five stars. Otherwise, what are you nuts? Listen to the good guys. Listen to Wild Men.

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