Good Guys - Gossip Guys with Chace Crawford

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Mazel morons! This week, we’re joined by the one and only Chace Crawford — aka Nate Archibald, aka The Deep, aka the most handsome man to ever discuss his bowel movements on mic. We get into his Texas upbringing, almost becoming a dermatologist, and what it’s really like shooting a superhero orgy on The Boys. Plus: the chaos of peak Gossip Girl fame, regrets about not leaning into it harder, and why Josh and Chace low-key trauma bonded over 2000s teen stardom. Ben gets too comfortable asking about his grooming routine, and Josh reveals he’s maybe, possibly, slightly obsessed. Plus, we answer YOUR messages- what’s not to love?! What, are ya nuts? Leave us a voicemail here! Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: Find exactly what you’re booking for on Booking.com Start earning points on rent you're already paying for by going to joinbilt.com/GOODGUYS Fatty15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help you live healthier, longer. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/GOODGUYS and using code GOODGUYS at checkout.  Exclusively for our Good Guys listeners, Bobbie is offering an additional 10% off on your purchase with the code: goodguys. Visit www.hibobbie.com for more details.  Learn more at Discover.com/creditcard Get the perfect gifts for him from Mack Weldon. Go to MackWeldon.com and get 25% off your first order of $125 or more, with promo code GOODGUYS. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What an honor. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. Of course. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah, I'm really glad it worked out. So, yeah, nice to see you guys. I'm a fan of the pod.

Thanks for having me. You're the best. You're the best. Are you really a fan of the pod? If you are, I'm just so excited. I said to Josh, I'm like, that is so fucking awesome. I know, I am. Like, I actually, I don't know if I, I, I don't know if I, I don't know if I did.

I was listening. I was listening to Brian Kaid's podcast. I don't know if he's done in a long time, but I know you guys are good. Friends, I didn't know until I heard you on his pod. Yes. And then I was just, I was just interested in your story.

And I read your book, man. It was really, really amazing. So, yeah, I read the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy, unbelievable. Handsome, nice. The whole package. This could be president.

I'm telling you, someone with these gorgeous waspy looks who's a friend of the Jews, this is it. He's holding hands. He's bringing people to get. No, this is it. We need to get you out to Saudi Arabia and what they're doing over there. Be a Jewish representation for the United States.

This podcast isn't political at all, but I love the people are so surprised that Donald Trump likes a Saudi welcome. Yeah, yeah, exactly. A man who loves casinos, of course. It's the greatest casino in the world. It's right up his alley. By the way, not political. Raise your hand if you wouldn't accept. except a plane.

What are you nuts? You're telling me I'm not taking a half a billion dollar plane? I don't care of Hitler built it himself. This is insane. It's so funny. On the pod the other day, Ben, who's having a beautiful baby, has been trying to figure out a new car to get.

And so he jokingly said, and then Mercedes, you know, Nazis can't do that. And this person calls into our show. I didn't even save it because there was two nuts. And they go, I heard Ben doesn't want a Mercedes, totally get it. But I just got a new Volkswagen. And let me tell you.

I'm like, what? Possibly worse. Yeah. I think it is worse. Just like a really quick Google search also would clear that up for them. Like, that's so funny. Even though I did, I did get a BMW. So I did the same thing.

There you go. Mazel. It's the same thing. Best car. Grats, by the way. It's great. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We're excited for little man. was really pumped when if it was a girl I would have been pumped to but like having a guy like I didn't take up golf we were talking about golf I didn't take up golf until I was 17 if I started at three maybe I'd be scratch be roaring you know Rory and a Rory like hitting him into the washing machine you know you'd be good so I mean yeah I never got to scratch I never could do it you know I was always jealous those guys who could like take off for a year and then just go out there and shoot like you know 72 you know it was so good you play golf a little bit too a little bit I'm awful yeah yeah

garbage oh I go through phases where I just hate myself I hate it and I quit and it's like I have to, you know, it's like a, yeah, it's like a bad relationship, but I keep coming back. It is, but it's so good. It's so relaxing. It's so fun. I don't know. Like, I can't.

There's no sport like it where there's true camaraderie all the time, you know? You're having a hang. I know. My girlfriend, I'm like, I didn't know you were such good friends with him. I'm like, babe, you spend four hours in a cart, you know, with someone like, you know, once or twice a week during the pandemic, you'd become. really close. So, you know.

For sure. Let me ask you, first of all, have you, can you hear the voice on this, Chase? I didn't realize this, these baritone tones? It's good. It's very good. This guy is like us. He's high Testosterone like us. It's very good.

It's good to know. Olivia, did you notice that? I did notice that. Three high tea kings. High T kings. It's us. It's us. New podcast.

Yeah. Now, tell me about golf. Would you make a snap judgment about a person forever if you notice they were cheating at golf? Yeah, actually. You know, if they're cheating in the way that's like, you're not kind of in the open and like, okay, that's just how. But if they're like cheating and we're in a game, you know, another bit of a game, like trying to take it seriously.

Yeah, I would, I would take, you know, I would take that as a judgment. Yeah. Because I completely agree. Right. So there are degrees of cheating. I just want to clarify, if I see somebody fluff their ball, there's no issues here. If you go into the woods, I know that you hit woman on Route 60, and you're telling me that you found your ball, and then all of a sudden you par, you're a liar.

You're a liar and you're a scumbag, okay? If you're dropping the ball down the pant leg, you know, and you couldn't find it. I mean, that's a bridge too far. Correct. Correct. Absolutely. But if the rules, if the rules aren't, you know, you have the rule, like, okay, if it's all, you can move your ball at club length or move it out of the wood chips like if that's like a you know

communal thing you establish that and if they if they mess that up then yeah i would i'd be i'd be ticked off agreed now you're both moguls fortune five hondo impressive men right then you entrepreneur in that world chase you in old school hollywood babe not new school hollywood like me influencer but what you're asking is you know it's not you you're not you're old school Hollywood. You invented Hollywood. They always say like the business gets done on the links. Like have you ever played golf with some impressive people and maybe gotten a part on the links? Tell us every. Yeah, no, I haven't been, I really haven't been a part of that of that. I mean, I've played with some probably impressive people, but I've not seen. No, I mean, for me personally,

my favorite was Jim Nance. I got to play like Cyprus with Jim Nance. He's like a member. And just because of my brother-in-law, but to have Jim Nance, and we're walking down the tea and, you know, hello friends. And he's, you know, like, kind of like narrating, they're telling the story of Cyprus. And that was, like, my most favorite, like, kind of, like, person I ever play. And he's, like, a national treasury. He's a gem, you know, so, uh, but no, I've never, like, done, like, serious business on, on the golf course, no. No, like Mark Wahlberg and you at the Rive. Right. Right. You know. I don't know if Mark Wahlberg plays with anybody. I think he, like, you know, works out at 2 a.m.

And then, like, plays, like, speed golf by himself at, like, 6 a.m. Yes. And he's, like, like, riding the golf court and just, you know, just hacking it with one hand, like, polo, you know? Like, he's done, like, an hour and a half. Like, I don't know how he does it. But, yeah. Man.

You know. It's definitely a great place. It's not a great place. I never understood people closing deals on the golf course, but getting to know someone that you're going to do a deal with and letting them know that you're a normal, fun person, I think is a really, really, great way to advance a deal.

Like I haven't closed anything, but I've built relationships that I wouldn't have been able to build. You can't like ask an investor to dinner and it be casual, right? It's like, it's, you know, like that's what it is. Totally true. That's completely true. And I've, like, played golf with like, and I, you know, the show I'm on's on Amazon. I was at this like golf tournament, kind of a charity thing.

And we were in this group and like, yeah, I play with this guy for four hours and we all, you know, became friends. And later on, I really when he came up to me, it's some Amazon probably like, oh, he's like the main guy. Amazon studios. You know, it's like, you know, the PR girl is like, he wants to like see you. I was like, we play golf for like eight hours, you know. Yeah.

Yeah, that's why I was like, that's great, you know. Be nice to everyone that you play golf with because you never know. That's a lesson for sure. Yeah. You never know, even if he's short and annoying. What else? I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. And so, Ben, have you being in sort of a being about to give birth to your beautiful son, brooch Hashem. Are you going to not, how long are you giving yourself to you play golf again forever? I'm going to be in the Hamptons this summer. I'm sure Chase, you know, there's some of the fucking best courses ever out there. In the world. I mean, the whole country for sure. Yeah. Like, I'm not going to lie. If I get a shot at Sagaponic, I'm letting my wife know, I need it. I need it. And hopefully she says yes, knowing my wife, she'll say no. And I'll be totally fine with that. So I probably, Josh, I will play golf again in 2026. I think that's, I think that's safe to say.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's sad. The courses out there are so nice. So nice, man. Yeah. It's great. Like literally, Josh, in this small, I don't know how many miles.

I don't even want to guess. There's like the top five courses in the world they're sitting out there between Chinnecock and bridge and national and Atlantic. And it's insane. Yeah. And all of them are more expensive than the next. Like million plus initiations. Right. Right.

Right. And in the wait list for 10 years, you know. And then you have schmucks like me who show up as a guest. That's the way to do it, you know. I know. I never got it. Just have rich friends, you know. I guess somebody has to be a member.

I don't know why it has to be me. Right? I know. And you don't feel pressure to use it, you know. You just kind of pop in, you know, gets the invite, you know. It's so fun about like, I forget in the Northeast how many things are, have native names. And then also knowing like the. people like the kids from Brooklyn that I grew up with,

they'd be like, I'm a hardcore American and I go to Sagaponic. And I'm an American or like, or in LA, right? It'll be like, we're going to go have a wonderful time and incanitas. Guys, what are we talking about you? Yeah. Yeah, I know. And so, yeah. The whole Hamptons is like that.

Before he gets to the Hamptons, you pass Riverhead. Yeah. Like that's the last place. before the Hamthens and the Hamthens is all native. Montauk is the most native and we just like took it and ruined it for surf lodge but like it's gorgeous. It's still around. It is right? It's around. It's still the is it good? Is it good? Yeah. Is it like a yeah. If you're looking for that, all the kids go and it's like eating like still yeah day parties. It's the beats. I ain't looking for that anymore. Yeah. No, it's Josh circa 2015. Oh man. I was probably right there with you.

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Yeah, speaking of like working in, because when did you make Gossip Girl in New York from like 06 to? Yeah, 07 to like 13, 2013, I think I left. Yeah. And you're what in your mid-20s then? Yeah, I was 21, I think I was 21 when I shot the pilot and then 22 or something when we started the series. So yeah. I have to say, quickly, well, just quickly because you broach the sub-exam. Growing up in the city, I want you to know you had, you don't need me to tell you that you had a chokehold on every kid that went to high school in the city. But me and my wife absolutely devoured that show.

Love it. And watch it again in full like last year. Did you? I love it. Yeah. We've had these waves on Netflix. It's just so good. Thank you.

It was great. Your character. Nate was amazing. And I don't know if you get sick of talking about it. Josh is sick of Drake and Josh. But you were. But you were amazing. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm like vintage now, I feel like. I'm like, this is the same age, same age girl. I'm like, how old are you? You know, we just watched it on Netflix, like the fourth, you know, like wave. I'm like, it's so fascinating, you know. It's like, you know. I was looking at like one of the actors on there like what the guy who played Penn's dad or whatever.

And he was like my age now, you know? I'm like, oh my God, that's so bizarre. But yeah. What did it feel like? Because when we did, when I did my show, I was young. It was from 14 to 19. Right. And we're in LA, which is an industry town.

Yeah. And it's a kid show, right? So it's like we're famous to kids at that time. And in LA it's not odd to see an actor, whomever walking around. But New York, even though it has a huge entertainment hub, is not just one industry town, right? It's finance. It's everything. Yeah.

So the show's crushing your 22, 23, New York. Is that an exciting time? What's that like? Yeah, no, it was so, I mean, you know, I'm from like Texas. So it was like a small town in Texas. And then kind of Dallas, which was like a big city to us growing up. And then I went to college in L.A. So that was like my first experience.

So I kind of took these steps. But then going to New York and I didn't finish college and I still didn't really feel like a grownup. You know, it was like kind of, I'd like borrow money from my dad to even get an apartment there. And I had to, you know, split it with one of the guys on the show because it was so expensive. Like borrowing away from my dad. So when those checks started showing up. And I'm like, on the show, it was like this, yeah, it was wild. Like being in such a big, I felt like my on my own, you know, for the first time and like having like agency.

And it was like, it was wild, man. Yeah, we didn't really fathom like being that sort of overnight, like a sensation on some TV show. It was really pretty wild. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot, a lot of fun, man. Yeah, like people kind of open, you know, welcomed us. And we kind of had the keys to city in a sense, you know. And yeah, it was really special.

But yeah, there was that thing. where, New York's a tourist city, so everyone wants to come visit you in New York, but it's like, in L.A., everyone's kind of like, you know, you know, like, too cool. They're like, you know, like, you know, like, I almost treat you like shittier. Like, you know what I mean?

It's funny. In New York, like, there would be that thing where you feel like you were, you know, since it was a New York show and New York was like a character in the show. Walking around, you kind of felt like in a Mickey Mouse costume at Disneyland. And people were like, oh my God, it's Nate.

Or, you know, whatever. Like, they're always like, well, hey, you know. And it was like, hi! And so there was that, like, that weird thing where it was, you're always walking in the city. And so there was kind of that, like, that thing where people would, you know, recognize you from the show or whatever. But it was, it was such a great experience, man. I can't speak more highly of like New York and like, you know, and it was like, you know, I was so young. And it was, we had a great job. And so I was, like, New York was so romanticized in my, in my mind and memory, you know, every time I go back there, it's like, oh, it just feels so

nostalgic in a way. Yeah, it was good. Mickey Mouse is such an interesting comparison because I was going to say the best or one of the best parts of that show is that they really captured the perfect New York. But all of it was very, very real. Like I don't think I've seen that anywhere else. Like everywhere, like even to like the like where you guys went to school, it all lines up perfectly with secular private school. Like it's whoever wrote it must have lived it because it was perfect to a T. Nothing was fabricated. Right. Right. I've never seen that. Like you have like L.A. based shows like the O.C. I'm not saying that like that's not like a perfect representation of the O.C. I actually think Gossip Girl was the perfect representation of being sort of elitist high school,

private school Manhattanite. Yeah. And then people would tell us that even from these schools. They were obsessed and I say, oh, you nail it. I still couldn't like wrap my head around the fact that they were saying it was accurate. You know what I mean? I think. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I lost the plot a little bit when I'm like, a congressman, you know. Like, what you go from like, 17 in high school to like, you know, running for Congress and coming out of a private plane? So funny.

And like, Chuck owns hotels now? Like, you know, like, what's happening? But no, I mean, obviously it was like a fan who's like, you know, aspirational or whatever. But the city representation, they did such a good. I mean, there's like, you know, gossip girl bus tours now. You can go and see the little sites. But yeah, they did. they did a great job and I think you know I think they were like talking like when we're first

start I was like oh it's got they're going to shoot like New York or Toronto and I'm like well they they made the right choice right because I don't think they could have doubled no what New York City is and how it was basically like one of the biggest characters in the show you know like the reality of that so oh my God what a disaster gossip girl would have been if it was in Toronto can you imagine Josh the backlash if they pretended Toronto was New York that's not amazing this isn't suits it'd be funny It'd be funny and sing. You're yelling at late in Meese were like,

what are you still Madooboo? Just up to her knees and snow. Like, you know, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, it's funny because growing up in the city, I went to performing arts high school. Right. And so a lot of my friends at that time

were like young actors in the city. And Gossip Girl was like the teenager, Law & Order SVU. Like every teen actor I know, they were in the early 20s. like doing it doing two days on g-jee-ging playing a nerd on gossip girl got an under five i'm like let's go jeremy are you still close are you still close with the cast members like do you still talk to them or do you guys have a group chat is there is there gossip girls group chat there's no more group chat yeah

yeah yeah i know it was like i remember the first iPhone came out at o seven right as we started the show and so we didn't we never really had that you know we missed like that social media kind of thing that moment but uh but yeah no it's it's it's kind of like college where you had this amazing experience and i loved everybody and like when you see them right oh my god come here and like catch up i literally ran into latin at a bionce concert the other week my girlfriend like we we whatever i got taken to a biontimore concert and then latin walks in and like it was so loud we're like what how are you you know trying to catch up and anyway we ended up grabbing like breakfast like a couple of days later and chat for like three hours almost like catching up and so it's like that you know and she's

awesome she's in l a you know i feel like half the you know pen and blake they live in in new york and so i'll still text with them occasionally and try and like we'll try and like get together i'll run to ed you know he's living in london now so it's everyone's like you know spread out has their family has the kids and so it's kind of kind of like that you know where you catch up when you can you know yeah it's interesting like i have that with a few people especially i did the show in vancouver for a year over And you naturally get super close with people you work with on a movie or a TV show. But we were locked into a country in a bubble for nine months. And so I haven't seen most of these people in four years.

And yet we'll talk on the group chat. People will announce that someone's pregnant or whatever. That's so great though. I feel such a love for these people that I don't think could have been accomplished if it wasn't like, it's like a camp relationship. It is like camp, isn't it? Steroid bonding on steroids, right? But as we get older, we need those group chat.

I mean, you know, you can say what you want. Like, some people hate them. But, like, it's fun to see that group chat get fired up from something like that, a really good experience with these people you had, right? I mean, and, like, you feel that I love. Like, that's nice. Like, I wish we, I mean, we have the boys group chat going, you know. That's still rocking, but there's no, no Gigi group chat.

We miss that boat, you know? You know some comic, sorry, I was just going to see. You know some ComicCon kids just heard that there's a boys group chat and finish. The climax I was just going to say, I was just going to say, I love a group chat, but you also got to know when the group chat. There are long-term group chats and they're a short term. Like I have people that are still like replying to a Bachelor Party group chat.

It's like, dude, it's enough. We've been back from the Bachelor Party for nine months. We met for three days. I'm not, it's over. And then they're like, I have like my one real group chat is called the Brunson boys. And we just get fired up about the Knicks. Ah, I'm going to say that in Nix podcast. There we go.

I mean, next group chat. That's a Nix group chat that my wife thinks is incredibly homosexual, the Brunson boys. But we love it. We love it. And sure it's a little gay. Who cares? Or the Nicks call it zesty. Yeah, yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns is zesty. Zesty. But have you seen those pictures? They're so good. Have you seen the meat? No, what is it? No, I have not. Oh my God. When he like finger rolls, he just like finishes like this. Like he's just so. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. So zesty. And he's straight. He dates Jordan Woods, but like, and he leans into it too. It's, it's so funny. Big game tomorrow.

Is it tomorrow night or is it tonight? Huge. And I just, we can cut this out, but I just got a text from my agent that she got me tickets. Yes. I love that. Yeah. I love her because I was about to fork like insane amount of money. Five grand. Like it's just. It's nickech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's next game six. Amazing. It's huge.

It's the furthest they've been since 99. Hopefully that's a huge party over there. Yeah, it's going to be great. I hope so. Nice, man. So the Knicks give you free tickets. You know, it's funny. I was just in New York and I hadn't been in a long time.

And I was, you know, again, with my girlfriend. And yeah, it was game two against, what was it? The Pistons? Yeah, there's been so many games. And they used to be so, I mean, like in L.A., I can't get tickets to save my life. It's like everyone on their dog wants to go to Lakers, Kings, whatever, Clippers. But in New York, like, gospel, I used to be hot shit, you know.

You could get, like, the Rangers games, you could get good tickets, Nick. So I hit up, Stephanie my manager, you know, just, I was like, hey, you don't want to be like a pain in the ass. But, like, you know, is there any way to maybe reach out? You know those VIP people, like the nice, cool suite or whatever. And they put in the request. And then, yeah, they came through with the tickets. It was incredible. Yeah, it was incredible.

There's nothing like the garden, you know. There's nothing like that energy. so Josh this is the good pull this is the good playoffs game to at the garden Josh and I always joke like if you even sniff an extra on SVU the garden will throw you tickets but if you haven't touched regular TV

it's go fuck yourself I only get I only get given tickets when Josh is in town and they still stick us in the 13th row the garden needs to do better and then Timothy shallomere there he just absorbs all the gravity of all the cameras. You don't have to worry about you. You're not going to get put up on the jump.

I mean, it's all Timothy, Timothy, you know, over there. Can we talk about Timothy Shalamee, who is just, I don't know if you've seen Josh. He's, he's replaced Spike Lee as the Knicks fan. Like, Spike Lee missed one game. He went to the Met Gala and that's it. He's out.

Spike is out. Timothy was on the road. He's on the road. He's traveling, yeah. He's traveling. He's sitting front row at every game. He's crushing it. Yeah.

Wow. He's living the life. I mean, I get, living the life. I get, you know, I get field side tickets for the LA Galaxy. I don't know. I'm just kidding. It's a nice time, you know. MLS soccer guys fucking get on board.

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It was the most terrifying three hours of my life. Like I wanted a text. I wanted to huff down some pretzels. I could it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll also ruin basketball for you though. Completely. How can you sit anywhere else?

Like once you're that close, you see the action, you hear the players, you hear the coaches. It's just, it's so much more than a game when you're that close. It really,

it is so unparalleled. It ruins it. It ruins it. Like to the point that like, I would rather watch on TV. Yeah. Like if you're not really, really, really close because you get, you have more of the action. You have the commentators.

You can actually see the fouls. Like it's just, it ruins it. You're on the same level. You're like, oh, wow, they're like two of me. Yeah, they're very, very big, big humans, you know. You're huge. Yeah. It's the energy's different.

I know. You can even get like 15 rows mid-court and like great seats. Like, I need binoculars. It's like, you know, it's so, yeah, it's so it ruins you for sure. Do you ever play in any of these celebrity basketball games? No, no, no basketball. I'm terrible at basketball. Yeah, I've like, I played in a few, like, you know, celebrity charity type event.

I mean, golf, golf charity type events, things, which are, which are fun, but still nerve-wracking. I mean, even like the basketball thing, I'm sure is nerve-wracking. Have you played in any of that stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like probably nerve-wracking, right? I mean. I was like, thank God I was under the influence. I wasn't sober yet.

It was great. And so, like, I wasn't really in my body for four and a half years. But I, yeah, I'm just like, hey, like, think quick, bro. Jeter. Like, I'm just like, so stupid. And like, Baron Davis is screaming at me.

I'm like, Barry, really? Like, oh, you know, I'm like, I'm being defended by a guy

in the ninth season of Survivor. Everyone can get fucked. That's amazing. Yeah. No, I've never, I try and stay away from those things now, you know,

approaching 40. I just want to, just don't want to pull a hammy, you know. sounds. Oh, terrible. But I also have a disdain for when actors get to butch, you know, or like too into something.

Like, have you ever had something where you've had to prepare for a role or, like, I remember when Top Gun came out and shout out, they obviously all crushed it. But like when Miles Teller and Glenn Powell, they were all like oiled up and everyone's like doing pushups before the scene. Like, I just don't think I would fit in. I think I would just be like, guys. What's going on here? Yeah.

I think you'd fit in just fine. I don't know, Chase, if you can see, I don't know if you can see his arms from here, but Josh is swollen. No, God bless you. But like, you know, I don't know. I don't think I can take myself that seriously. Right, right. You know, I know.

It's like, it's, how are you with that kind of stuff? Like the workout stuff or just kind of like, yeah. I mean, you do, you know, like you, like with the boys and stuff, you are playing those kind of guys that are elevated in that way. But are you comfortable in that setting? or you're like, oh, I really have to kind of get myself there. Exactly. I feel like you have to like you really get yourself there.

And I think, you know, yeah, my experience with it, I wanted to kind of do that for the boys starting out. And yeah, I kind of backed myself into a corner there, right? Because I kind of got in this shape. I'm like, oh, shit, I got to keep this up every season, like that it comes around. And so, yeah, I feel like there's a fine line between like obsession with it. You know what I mean? Like a healthy, like there's like the line to be unhealthy with that is kind of blurry.

and you can kind of cross over into that, like, you know, negative relationship with it pretty easily, you know. So I don't, I don't really like, you know, all that stuff so much, you know, it's just you can get too obsessive over it because it's, it's a bit unrealistic, you know, because you're doing it for, like, for the show or the moment or the scene. And so it's like, it's really tough to get there and, and actually maintain that as like a lifestyle. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's healthier to not try and maintain that for, you know what I mean? I think it's healthier just to, like let that go. So yeah I remember I did this movie red dawn where yeah Chris Hemsworth that I played brothers because that's believable.

It's amazing though no I know the movie's great and he got Thor before while he was showing red dawn wow so he had to be in great shape for red dawn but Thor was the next level and he had like three or four months to prepare and I remember he would like I remember once I like caught him welling up because he couldn't eat enough because he had to get He felt the dream. The dream. But it's like... The dream.

Chicken and rice and veggie. You know, it's not fun because he just felt like I need to... I'm playing Thor. Like, I need to be superhuman. You know, he's already 6'4, but like he wanted to put on 20, 30 pounds of muscle. Right. And then I remember we had filmed for three months and he'd been working out savagely. He looked incredible.

And in December, he had to go and try on the Thor suit before he started filling. me in February. And he comes back and he goes, I outgrew the suit. Suit doesn't fit anymore. And they told me to stop gaining weight and lose some. Wow. Because they were like, you don't, wow. They were like, the camera doesn't pick up size. It picks up cut and shape. Right. And they're like, you're too big. You're too jacked. Yeah, he was just a massive. They were like, lean it all. It's interesting. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah. No, I know. I know. I don't know how you deal with it for like a Marvel shoot for like, you know, six months or whatever it is. But, but, but yeah, the cut thing does show up a little bit more, you know, on camera, like the size thing you can be like short, tall,

whatever and big, but like the cut thing is kind of what, what shows. Yeah. And that's tough. You know, there's like, you know, you really got to kind of focus, you got to focus on like the, unlike numbers. And I don't want to be weighing, like, I'm too old to be weighing food or getting on a scale. I'm not like, I don't like to think about anything like that, you know, so. Right. And I think you can, you know, kind of develop some unhealthy habits like that way, you know. Yeah. And I did.

I definitely did for a minute. I kind of, you know, slipped into some, some, you know, kind of obsessed. You get obsessed with food a little bit. It's just not, not healthy. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. One of us.

Talk about a food, food obsessed. Probably coming from a different angle. But have you even, yeah, tell me. Ben, you're playing a superhero in, you know, the Israelite returns, right? Yes. So. What's your regimen look like? How much turmeric and how much Mungaro are you injecting today?

So much, so much, so much, so much, at least 0.35, because right now it's humming, Jets, it's humming. The turmeric is great as well. I wonder, like, just hearing you talk about Chris eating to gain weight, that, like, thought is so foreign to me, like, the idea of, or sorry, eating to be big. and stronger. Like, if I want to be bigger and stronger, I need to eat so much less. Like, that's my body. Like, if I, I need to eat protein, of course, but like, I can't just, like, be eating calories. I'll just get fat, right? Like, I need to, if I want to cut down or, like, get cut, which is, like, so far into me, I would need to eat less. It's just a crazy thing. So,

what would I do? I would eat a lot of chicken, ton of chicken. I'd probably have you inject me with some beautiful GLPs and testosterone and whatever else the kids are. All the kids are doing something crazy. What are the kids taking? Peptizer saw you hear of peters. Shout out, Craig Conover, Dr. Pover. What are the kids in Hollywood taking right now for these roles? What are they taking to look like this?

I wish I knew, to be honest. I mean, I know they're taking something. I wish I knew. No, I really don't. I mean, I've heard peptides, but like, you know, I looked it up just to say, like, what the hell is all this about? And there's like 50 different alpha numeric, you know, So I'm like, wow.

And like, are you ordering these off the internet? And then like injecting? Like, what's going on? Chase, you know me now. I don't make the connection. Shout out Dr. Conover. Thank you for Conover Wellness. Charles Simpson South Carolina.

Yeah, really? I mean, yeah. Like, like, like, okay. Yeah. But do they like, you know, do they work? Like, does it give you energy? Like, I don't know. Not in the eyes of the FDA.

Kids were doing, right? I mean, yeah. I mean, I'll say it if you can't. I've definitely known a lot of actors growing up, less now in my late 30s who were like, certainly taking roids or human growth hormone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And for the kind of roles and things that I'm going out for,

it wasn't worth the trade. I remember we had on a famous Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, this guy, Dr. Jason Diamond. Okay, right. And he was saying how there are some really famous actresses that have come to him asking for the buckle fat removal from their cheeks. Interesting.

To give them kind of that more like angular, modally look. Right. And he goes, I know, and I tell them, this won't look good in your 50s because of whatever you've got going on anatomically in your face. Like you're going to want that fat back as you get older. Right. But he's like, it's a trade.

Yeah. They feel it, you know, late 20s, early 30s are having such a moment that they'd rather look insane for this 10-year runway. And they deal with it later. Yeah. Right, right, right. I mean, it's that movie. What movie was that came out? The substance.

The substance. It's literally the substance. Yeah. Right. That's literally it. A tradeoff. You get one day of looking hot and it eats away at your body. Yeah.

Yeah. What a scary movie. Yeah. I've never messed with any of that stuff. you know, to stop, whatever, it just feels like, you know, there's a tradeoff down there with what, what, you know, it, you know, restricts production of the natural hormones. It's like, I don't want to screw with that, you know, unless I have to. You know, unless I'm in actually like 50 years, I need it, you know, but yeah, I don't really

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because you've done this thing that I think is very rare to go from one huge beloved show to another one. And usually as actors, you don't get like another sophomore hit in the TV space. Totally. How much did you really have to angle for that? Was that something that you were, it was more just lucky?

What was the thought process in jumping into the second show? Yeah, I think people think, well, first of all, they think that actors, you know, make a ton more money and have way more agency than we actually do depending on sort of where you are. But I was in, I felt like I was in the wilderness for like years after Gossip Girl because I felt, you know, as big of a show it was

coming off as a young, still young guy. It's like, oh, that's not cool, you know, anymore. And I'm in this box now. in this like jail of like the CW pretty boy who you know what I mean who can't it has no range so I felt that and and I was probably harder harder on myself than I needed to be but I it wasn't like I I just remember that that audition hitting my inbox and reading the synopsis I was like that sounds wild and then like reading this pilot and I was like oh this is great you know this is so out there and original and weird and in the specific role of the deep you know like being like I'm like I know that guy

You know, I know, I know a hundred of those guys, basically. So instantly felt confident and excited, like, about my take on the character. Like, I'm just going to go in there and do what I think is funny for this guy. Now, I hope they appreciate the comedy. I didn't know what, I didn't know what the tone was going to be. But I had to go in, I went in Red Fort. You know, yeah, I went in Red Fort. I had no, it was like the, I got there.

I was, like, last up. And there was, like, literally, like, 50 names on the sheet. I was, I was, like, a little annoyed because I was like, it was, I was, I was. was like last in the room. And I just, I just feel like I don't like like that. I feel like, oh, they've seen all these people all day. They want to go home. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like to kind of me go first. So I was, I'm not sitting there and no, I had to wait, like, you know, 20 minutes, which was fine. But like, it was just like, I just felt, you know, bad. That was like the last stuff. Like, oh, God, they're not going to remember anything of this. But it was Eric Crippy, the creator. Like, he was in every session and every day for, for all the reads, just right there with

the casting director. And they had a reader there. And I just felt, I felt so confident with the scenes. I went in there. and one was pretty dark, kind of a dark, like, scene where you're screaming at the girl. And then another one was like a monologue on the couch with like talking to your, his is the deep therapist or something about like the local lobster is her. There's only friends, you know, and I got some laughs at a Cripke.

And I was like, okay, you know. And, you know, that was it. I mean, it was just a normal audition, read that I, something I really wanted, you know, just based on, like, reading it. So it really wasn't my choice at all, you know. And it was, it was Seth, you know, Seth, you know, Seth, you know, Seth, Rogan and Evan Goldberg were producing it. It was like a really cool thing.

And then they instantly were like, oh, yeah, we want to test you, like off that one audition. I was like, can I go back in again? Like, can I go back in and do it better? You know what I was kind of like nervous that they were going to use that. But it all worked out. And it was really fast. And it was great.

It was a great, you know, I was so happy to have another job and I was excited about that the character was so different from anything I had done before, you know, and being, I saw it as dark comedy. I mean, it was very dark the first season, what he does in like the first episode. But it was just a way to show range. And I thought that I was going to like, I'm going to use this opportunity to really try and do whatever I can with it. And yeah.

And then even then, it was a series pickup. So we shot the whole eight episodes without ever airing. And they were going to order another one before even the first season air. But we were like, is this going to land with anybody? I mean, it was such a crazy tonal shift of like, you know, the idiot narcissistic dolphin boy. And then like the evil Superman character like, you know, not saving a. planning a whole plane of people like go down. It's like, is anyone going to connect?

And they did. So it was, when it came out, it was like kind of, you know, a hit. And then kind of grew, it kind of was a slow build in the audience, like 2020. Second season aired and it became even bigger. And that was a lot of fun. That was the first time I really, really enjoyed, like, the fan feedback from, you know, from people in the streets. But yeah.

But no, like, and to, but it was not lost on me how difficult after kind of those four years of like, like kind of some false starts on some TV shows of like, oh, this could be difficult, you know, to find another thing. And I was really, really appreciative when this happened because I was kind of like, oh, man, like it's just, and that one sort of audition, you know, when you get down that that one, that one audition could really change. And you kind of know what, like, I'm on this,

I'm on this new kind of crazy journey now with those other show and these new people that's really cool. So I was very appreciative of that. Yeah, after being on something like Gossip Girl, Not that I took it for granted. It was just so fresh and I was so young that you kind of inevitably, by the end of it, have taken some things for granted, you know?

Sure. Yeah. Well, you know, Ben is a big fan of glee. I love it. I love it. I love it. I recently watched that start to finish again, too. Fantastic.

Did you? Yeah, that was right when even gospel was big. Like, my parents loved that we all watched that back then. I knew a lot of those guys on there. Yeah, it's great. Ben's TV taste. is always... I was going to say

I needed to know where that was going that I caught a stray on glee. I'm currently on episode 12 of the Sopranos first watch through. There you go. Yeah. Josh, I've been meaning to tell you,

I am Tony's mother. Hell yeah. You are. I'm Tony's mother. Like, I pretend that I'm senile. I really like rat on people. I really like,

it's like she's a little bit of the control thing, but she just guilts people. Guilts them to know. And she's so Jewish, Tony's mom. And honestly, the Jewish undertones, while they also are so anti-Semitic, it's gold. It's spot on. Like it was so clearly written by Jews and they just like threw in those. It wasn't.

They have Tony using the word schnoora. I'm like, why are you using the word schnora, Tony? Because he's a fucking schnoor. It's so good. It's so good. I have range with TV for sure. Range. I love all great deep characters.

And I'm telling you, Josh, Glee, there are some deep characters that Rachel Berry, she's fantastic. Okay. Hey, should we get this? So we do this thing called speak pipe where people call into the show and leave messages. They want advice. They want to hear some input. Do you want to jump in on some?

For sure, yes. All right. If you want to give us questions. questions, advice, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys. Keep a brief. Brevity is key. I can't stress that enough. Brief, brief, brief. Let's hear first from, ooh, this is good. First from Anonymous. Hey, good guys. I'm going to send this to the toast too and hopefully you both read it and respond because, or I guess you're listening to it, because I want a male and female perspective. And yes, I'm going to make it about gender. So I went on a date last night, first date

guy and he was very open about the fact that he is divorced. And when I was like prying into deeper about his divorce, he said that he cheated on his ex-wife and that obviously led to their divorce. And I'm just curious, like, is knowing that an automatic red flag, can people change? He did this a couple years ago. I'm not like head over heels for him. Obviously, it's a first date, but like, should that be an automatic, like, no? Or should you, like, hear them out? Obviously, people make mistakes in the past. And, you know, it's just, it's posing an interesting question and I would love your thoughts.

Bye, bye. I think the fact that he told you says something about him. He didn't have to tell you that he cheated on his ex-wife. Like, a real scumbag wouldn't tell you at all. True. That said, I do think that it's a red flag to cheat on your spouse. I also, I don't know, we don't know the whole story. That's the problem with these speak pipes.

They never give us enough information. Like, was that, how was their marriage? Was she not, like, was there a reason? I'm not trying to victim blame. But there are sometimes reasons, you know, you never know. Yeah, was she a stingy lover? Sorry. Maybe, what, maybe?

It's possible. I don't know. It's probably a red flag, but you could do some more research to see if it's not. Right. I feel like the dating, I feel like it's tough out there. I don't know. You know, I feel like it's a tough, tough dating scene out there for, Well, both genders. But yeah, I mean, if like, you know, like you said, I think that's a good point.

If he's coming out and being very direct with like, hey, I'm single. I'm divorced, but it was my fault. I cheated. Like, you know, maybe give it a second date. But that's a rabbi. I think it's a red flag. Yeah, for sure. You know, it's not a green flag. Like, oh, yeah, green light. Let's go. You know. Yeah. It also makes you think the fact that he was so open like, hey, I'm Jeff. I cheated. It's like, what else? Have you been to prison? Yeah. You love bombing here now? Yeah, yeah. I love you. Like there was like there was a little bit too much, like too forward. Like, I don't know.

Oversharing, right. Save something for the third date. Right. Like, sure. What about what do you think, Olivia? I agree with the sentiment that I think it says something about his character that he was honest and said that up front, but also just like proceed forward with caution. I think that if you have good chemistry, like maybe see what happens, but keep that piece

of information tucked, you know, aside. But ultimately, I think it. Like, I don't know, people can change, but, you know, I think it depends on your connection and if you think it's worth dealing with the murky waters of it all. Right. Josh? I think it depends how you cheated. I think if it was like, oh, I had, you know, an ex who I still had feelings for and we ran into

each other, blah, blah, blah. That's one. And if it's like, I saw someone attractive near the carousel at Central Park and we rendezvoused in the rambles. Well, no. And then that's different. That might be your sex addict. In the rambles.

In the rambles. No, I don't know. Cheating's a tough. It's a tough thing. I don't know. I mean, I think Ben, you and I have talked about it.

And I don't know how you feel chase. But like, I have people that I love and respect. Like, I know I respect them and love them as people as much as I could tell about anyone. And they've cheated. Like, like they've had relationships end,

unfortunately. because there was some sort of infidelity. And I go like, and I don't know. I think if I made that like a, that's not cool with me. We can't be friends anymore. I'd lose a lot of friends. I think a lot of people cheat. It's not okay.

But I don't know. What do you think, Ben? I just think that there's a clear distinction between a cheater who's an asshole and a cheater whose relationship was in trouble. And they weren't good enough at vocalizing that and getting out. Like they should have. You should never cheat on someone. But if your relationship's terrible and your partner's terrible, the best thing to do is break up with them and then have sex with somebody.

But things happen, right? But if your spouse was unbelievable to you and you took advantage of that and cheated on her, then you're an asshole. Like that's, you know what I mean? Like, cheaters aren't just cheaters. There's, they're different, I think, I think that there are different types of reasons why one would cheat. I don't think any of them are necessarily acceptable. Yeah. If you're like firing up your dating app or the DMs,

actively like serially hiding it. And then maybe, you know, it's a, it's a relationship that's at a low point. You're in a weak moment, have a weak moment. And then you can't sleep at night because you feel so guilty and teller. I mean, you know, those are two different types of people. 100%. So, I mean, yeah. I mean, is it shitty?

You know, yes. And no matter how you slice it. But yeah, it's no fun. But to your point about having friends that cheat, Josh, I actually don't think that I could be friends with somebody who was the cheating type that was just a scumbag. Like his wife loves him and is so nice. Totally. Exactly.

He's like a, she's like a great mom and takes care of the kids while he's, what's the name of Tony's hooker? What do they call them? Gumas. Yeah, Guamar. Has a Gumar. Like, I don't need that.

Like, you don't need Gumars while you have your beautiful family. This fucking, this fucking Benkeets are fucking square. God, that Gumar was such a snara. It's a good impression. Yeah, no. What if there was a thing like The Purge but for cheating? Like one day, I don't know, a month.

No, one day a year, you could just get after it. So fun, dream. No, getting... Here's another one from Megan. Okay, I'm not even going to waste time on a hello because I'm not trying to get crucified on the podcast. But me and my husband are moving across country to kind of get away from everybody's

our own journey and now our in-laws are trying to follow. They are very nice people, but my God, are they fucking annoying? What do we do? Do we, you know, move there and if they follow us, just move to another state, or do we tell them, you know, you're a little annoying, please leave us long. Any help would

be appreciated. Thank you. Thanks. So you would move somewhere and then potentially move again? I get that right? Yeah. That sounds like a lot of work to maybe clear it up beforehand. You know what I mean? Like, It sounds like a lot of work that a conversation could just, like, have a conversation. Say like, hi, you're a little bit overbearing.

I'm really sorry. I think that's better than moving twice. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I also believe in respecting your elders and like that sounds pretty shitty. I don't know. Like, you're lucky to have in-laws.

I don't know how old this person is. And I also don't know the circumstance. Again, we don't have enough information, Josh. Yeah. And do they have, like, do they have kids? Because if a lot of, you can forgive a lot of annoyance if you have in-laws who are down to being your kid's life and help. Yeah, yeah.

You know? Right. Yeah. I don't know. Speaking of in-laws, your brother-in-law is a football player? Yeah, Tony Romo. Yeah, yeah. He's great.

Yeah, yeah. And we grew up huge Cowboys fans, so from Texas. And he's the best. Yeah, going to some of those games where when he was still playing was just like the best. It was, yeah. And he, so I have in-laws who are football players too. Okay. My father-in-law was a quarterback for the Jets.

Amazing. for 10 years. Yeah. My brother-in-law played QB-1 for Fresno. Wow. So what's that? Because for me, I'm not a great football player. So playing catch with these guys sucks.

It sucks. Yeah. It sucks. Like you break a finger real easy. Does he dart? Is Tony darting them at you? What's he throwing lasers? Yeah.

Even when he tries to take some off of it, it's just like, boom, you know? It's like almost a broken nose. But yeah, I mean, and I never, I tried football when I was, I was not great. But, but yeah, he doesn't, he's more of like a golfer. now, like he's really into, you know, the golf thing. And so, you know, it's nice that, and he's really, he's one of those annoying guys who's like, just scratch and just can kind of get out there. He's so good, I was going to say. He's amazing. Yeah, yeah. He says a thing. And he tries, like, show me how to do it and move my body. I'm like, I can't do that, don't. But yeah, he gets out

there and he, yeah, he zings that ball. And he's, he's, he, now I've got three nephews. His kids got three boys and like. He seems like a great dad. He's a great dad. Yeah, he's like talked to, I mean, the middle one looks just like him, like throwing back there, throwing the ball and like wiggling around. And so it's fun. It's fun for us. Yeah, you know, and he's a very good coach and very good, like, teacher. And he's very patient and enthusiastic. But yeah, we him and I used to play some catch and he would, yeah, I mean, he would sting a little bit. And there's nothing, like, I can't really watch football anymore. Like I, like, seeing him and having like an emotional connection to someone on the field and being with your family. It was such like a drug. It was such a high. Like, and, you know, you're nervous and

watching him play and the whole thing. Like, it will just never be that exciting, watching any, any, football event, you know, ever. So, but yeah, he's, he's such good guy. We love him. And yeah, he's great. Wow. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. I can't imagine you playing catch, Josh. I don't know why. I can't. I just can't. You play catch? It's like you watching Glee. It happens. You play catch. Yes. I can throw, I can throw up a ball. I'm not great. I'm not great at catching things. We need to, we need to play catch. I'm ready to play catch. Great for our next merch shoot. It'll Just be you and I'm going to. I'm going to.

Yeah, we'll play catch and we'll smoke cigarettes. That'll be the next. While smoking. Ball, and rins and darts. That was our first merch shoot. It was us playing basketball, smoking cigarettes.

Yeah, while smoking. That's amazing. It was. It was great. Should we get to our Woody and Nuts? Yes. So our What Do You Nuts moment of the week?

We'll go first. You have a time to think about it. Okay. It's our gripes with people, places, and things. last segment. Basically, anything big or small sticking in your craw, it doesn't matter. Just whatever you think can go, what are you nuts? Like a pet peeve type thing? Totally. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anything is great. Right. So we'll go first and then, and you have time to think about it. Okay. Yeah. So this morning, I mentioned that I played golf this morning. I go. I had my ice coffee. I had my AG1. I don't need to spell it out. I get to the course. I'm ready to, I'm ready to rip it. I sit down before I can do anything, automatic flusher, water up the ass. What do you nuts? What are you nuts? The automatic flusher, the automatic flusher, Josh, didn't need to be invented. It didn't need to.

We could easily press the button so that it doesn't go off at inopportune moments. Nobody likes to be splashed like that. These are completely in archaic. And I think automatic flushes are what are you nuts. Hmm. Okay. It's a good one, actually. My Woody and Nuts is the other day I was walking through my home base, Costco.

I just love it. And they have one of those. I live on Kirkland Drive. I wish. And they have a section set up for massage chairs. Like they're doing demos. Now, I love a massage chair as much as the next guy, but like it's a lot of hooey. It doesn't really do anything.

Right, right, right, right. It's not comparable to a real massage, but it's great. You can get it. Totally. And they're not cheap. They're thousands. Expensive. Yeah.

Yeah. And I see this big billboard for like, these are our massage shares. And with a ringing endorsement from the world chiropractic organization. What are you nuts? Like, what's the next endorsement from the world fortune teller organization? Who cares?

Josh, we're going to get the chiropractic community after us again. This happened once. This happened once. I just like, We almost lost the podcast. Who knew they needed an organization? Like, first of all, I'm down with chiropractors.

I think they're wonderful if they're really good at what they do and they can help people. But don't call yourself doctor, first of all, because it's on. Right? Right, right, Ben? Hoey, hooey, whoee. It's just because it's like, then there'll be like people who are giving you medical advice on TikTok. And it'll say doctor so and so. And I'll be like, oh, this person clearly went to like, you know, did the residency at the Cleveland Clinic.

And they're like, actually, I went to the van. chiropractic college. You know what I'm just like? Not a dog? Yeah. That's another what do you're nuts just quickly because I thought about it. Actually, I'll save it for the next episode. Actually, I'll mention it now and then we'll cut it out.

When you're a doctor of something else and you refer to yourself as doctor, like when you're like a doctor of the arts or something. Totally. And you have people call you doctors. Like, come on. People slaved in medical school. Not like looked at Picasso or something, you know. Okay.

So when is doctor, but a psychologist we can call doctor, yes? Absolutely. PhD. Absolutely. Absolutely. So anybody that see, if you see patients, you're a doctor. Chiropractor. That's it.

Yeah. No, chiropractors, though, like, you can't be a doctor and also like. Isn't it kind of pseudo? We're going to strip mall in Florida. Like, it just doesn't work. You have to be able to. Fair. Fair enough.

What about a naturopath or like Eastern medicine, you know, acupuncturist? You know I love them. They're not doctors. Okay. Wow. Gotcha. They're homeopathic consultants, Josh. Right. They spread the gospel of the Lord.

That's what they do. Okay? That's what they do. You have a one that, Chase? You know, I was thinking, you know, I've been flying kind of back and forth from Toronto a little bit. And I realized one of my biggest pet peeves is someone watching or playing a game on their phone with no headphones and the volume up. And I think that probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's such a good one because it's like, it's a nice quiet airplane, you know, hopefully you're reading a book or doing something, you know, and then you just hear like, you know, coins jingling and all, you know, they're playing like candy crush or something. And you're like, do I say something? You know, am I going to stick up for myself? And, you know, yeah, can you please, you know, put the headphones on? I feel like that's a natural, a normal, you know, courtesy, right? And then, and then the other one, I'm going to. I'm going to be able. I I'm like on the airplane.

I'm a guy who likes the window up. I like the son. Like you're flying in the morning, daytime. Like I don't want to be in a dark coffin tube. You know what I mean? Like when do we stop? When do we stop? Like having the windows down.

You know, I mean, up. Like, anyway, that's my, what are you, are you nuts? Yeah. That's it. Those are two, there's two great ones. I've told the story about Teresa Judeyce before from the real houseways of New Jersey. Sitting next to me on a plane.

How was that? She was face-timing with no headphones. FaceTiming on Wi-Fi. That is obnoxious. Insanity. Insanity. It's a flight from L.A. I'm trying to slitch his face-timing.

Oh, my God. But she's from the Real House. I mean, that would have been at least somewhat interesting. Like, oh, my God, of course. You know, of course. Oh, you're a Real Housewives fan too. I start, yeah.

I haven't watched a while, but I used to love it. Yeah. I love it. He loves bad TV too. It's gold. It's gold. Yeah. I love it.

Chase, this has been unbelievable. Do you have anything else that you want to talk about, anything that you want to call out, anything you want to promote before we were at? Yeah, no, I listen. We mentioned with my friend Kelly Teller. I'm launching. Like, you know, I just got bored with the acting thing last year when I, well, you know, when the strikes were going out, I didn't have much to do. And we started this clothing apparel company that's, that's launching on June 6th called American Dream Clubhouse. It's got polos that are a few that are for golf, but it's mainly like high quality, like really, really nice polos and T-shirts and hoodies.

and I kind of wanted to just create something that was custom to me or I couldn't find everything in a one-stop shop that kind of had like the colors and the sizes I like and we're really excited about it. So yeah, American Dream Clubhouse website's going to be open in two weeks and it's great. So yeah, please check it out. Amazing. We will. Josh, I love a good polo. Love it. Love it. Love it. Polo is good, baby. Yeah, it's good. As long as there's a little stretch in it, nothing too far as there's a little stretch and they're not, yeah, they're not too tight. They're not overly, you know, Taylor. They're not. It's, it's, it's, it's good. So, yeah, we'll get you guys some. I love it. Well, folks, if this episode isn't five stars,

what are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on YouTube. Share our clips, Instagram and TikTok, Mondays and Thursdays, folks. The great Chase Crawford, thank you so much. Thanks for having you, thanks, man. See you guys. See you guys. Yeah, thank you. Cheers. Awesome. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertised for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.