Good Guys - Jojo Siwa Can't Wait to Die

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Happy New Year, Morons! We hope you all had a wonderful holiday season and that you're ready to take 2025 by STORM. Today, we're kicking off the new year AND the new season with THE icon herself, JOJO SIWA! Jojo takes us through what her whirlwind year was like after the release of "Karma", the times she stood up to the suits, what happens after we die, and her complex thoughts on non-monogamous relationships. Plus, Jojo and Josh talk through the ups and downs of growing up (and having break-ups) in the public eye, supporting your family from a young age, and whether or not she'd have taken an out of the industry at 18. Trust us folks, this episode HAS IT ALL! You better tune in, otherwise, what are ya, nuts?! Leave us a voicemail here! Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: Quip - Get 20% off sitewide and a FREE travel case and countertop stand and GETQUIP.COM/GOODGUYS Bilt Rewards - Start earning points on rent you're already paying for by going to joinbilt.com/GOODGUYS Fatty15 - Fatty15 is on a mission to replenish your C15 levels and restore your long term health. You can get an additional 15% off their 90 day subscription Starter kit by going to fatty15.com/GOODGUYS and using code GOODGUYS at checkout. Robinhood Retirement - the new gold standard is here with Robinhood Gold. To receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at robinhood.com/gold Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm sitting here with a guy who doesn't wear all black because it's slimming. It's because he's dead inside. It's Ben Sopper. And I am here with a queen that needs no introduction, Jojo Siwa. The braid is braiding. Thank you so much for joining us. We're so excited to have you. Of course.

Thank you both for having me. When you text, I was like, absolutely. It's literally not even a question. Hello? Jojo, you are, I just, can I, can I, can I just have a moment? Take your moment. About Jojo. Take your moment.

Take your moment. I am so fucking bullish on Jojo Zawa and I don't care. Who knows it? Stop. Thank you. I am such a fan, you know, when we were both doing YouTube years ago. Yep. And.

Oh, rest and peace that era. God bless. Take me back. It was a good time. Like I think all the time I'm like what I would give to just have 2018, like have all my friends teach me how to drive, like do. Absolutely nothing again. Like, oh, so good.

Yes. So good. Take me back. We miss the ad sense. And so much. Oh, yeah. Let's talk money. Money's awesome.

Money's the best. Let's go and we're hype on money. And I remember we were going to record a video together. And obviously I was aware of your greatness. But there were some kiddos in my life at the time because I didn't have kids. But our good family friends, their daughters were like six and nine. And so they were like right in your demo at the time. And so when we were shooting the video, I said, Jojo, would you mind like, and I feel awful and weird asking.

You made them a video. Their heads exploded when they saw it. It was so amazing and generous. You gave them a bunch of swag. Of course. You told me a line about your merchandise that haunts me forever. What did I say? You said, I have merchandise on every continent except there's no Walmart and Ann Ardict.

Yeah, yeah, we're on six out of seven. That is such a power move. Isn't that crazy? It's wild. That's crazy. Yeah. Congrats. Thank you.

That's awesome. Thank you so much. But can we do a pop up in Antarctica? Because this don't sit right with me. We just need to go sell one. Like I need to take it there manually go door to door like knock, knock, knock. I mean, there's like 40 people there total, but someone will buy it. That's like a Mr. Beast video waiting for you.

No. Like if you go to Mr. Beast and say take. me to Antarctica because I don't have any merchandise there and I want to sell it door to door. It's a sponsorship waiting to happen. Honestly, Jojuu X Feastables is waiting. There we go. Yes. Oh, my God.

Wow. Let's talk. Let's get the big stuff out of the way first because I feel like you have these moments where you're just like, you know, whether it's a new song or you're crushing music, it's like you get really into this thing and it becomes your life. Yeah. Like where's life at right now? I, when I deep dive into something, like, I'm committed. Like, I'm in. I embrace it and I make it, I almost like immersed myself in it. Right now I'm immersed in my future music. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot. There's a lot of songs. I made a one file that has all my songs in it that are future. And it's a 45-minute file, 47-minute file.

And so I'm right now so immersed in that world. I'm also immersed in the world. I'm also immersed in the world. of selling my house, which is a lot of fun. And buying a new house, which is a lot of fun. What are we thinking? Take us through it. Okay, so it all started because I found this beautiful home that I'm absolutely obsessed with, like, would put the offer in on tomorrow.

But I have my house. And it's... But you're like, Buckingham Palace is taken. But I can afford it. Unfortunately, Garden Ridge, you can't have it. But, so, no, this house, it's an incino's beautiful. But I have made the responsible choice to not have two reasons.

real estate properties right now. I mean, look, I couldn't. I could lease it out, but where I'm out right now, it doesn't make much sense to do that. So I made the responsible choice to sell mine first and then go by after it sells. But we're literally like, this is like I found out yesterday that we're staging it on Friday. So I found out yesterday like, get your shit out. Like that's, that's been kind of immersed. My love life's great. I'm super personally happy. My family's great. They're happy. They make me happy. My friends are great. They make me super happy. I'm in like trained mode right now where I just am like training left and right. I just got back from Australia with performances over there. So that's that was a ball. And what does that look like when you're performing

in Australia? Are you doing like massive venues? Like what's the show look like? Take us through it. So right now it's actually like tiny festivals which are so fun. They're so intimate. It's like Pride Fest basically. And yes, we did one in Melbourne. It's we did a seven song set. It's honestly the stage is like as big as this room. Like it's tiny. It's me and my 60. I. I played the drums for the first time, which was really fun. There was like 3,000 people, which like, when I was on tour as a kid, it was 17,000 a night. So it's like, it's definitely much smaller, but it's like that intimate vibe is actually something that I love so much. And like candidly actually, not candidly, confidentially, but I'm saying it live on a podcast, who cares?

Being in Australia and doing that said performance, I did another one over there, TikTok Awards. That was awesome. It was TV, TikTok. It was fucking great. But the first performance, the Pride Fest one that was in Melbourne, being in that intimate venue actually made me have an idea to create a show that I could do over and over again multiple times on a tour sort of thing. That isn't a big concert tour.

It's something else. And it gave me this idea and we've been working through it now. And I have my first like, hey team, here's what we're doing call on Thursday. So in two days from now. Like I'm like, it was a good clarifying trip. And it like gave me some good ideas. Nice. How big is the Jojo Sewa team?

It's actually fairly, fairly smaller than you would think. I have my mom, who's my right hand man. I have my publicist Bill. I have my management. My management team's pretty big. I'm with 724. And so we got Cade, Larry, Claire. And then like the group has like seven or eight people in it.

Don't know everybody. but there's a lot of them. But Cade, Larry, and Claire are the main ones. And then I have my agency, CAA. I have my attorneys, my lawyers. We love them. And I have my financial team, my financial advisors. And my videographer, Cam, my choreographer, Richie.

But really, that's it. Because, like, hair and makeup-wise, I do all my own. Wardrobe my mom does. It's, like, we keep it very, very in-house. You don't need to hear from me how impressive you are, but, like, you are. And like just like, just like super cool down to earth, but also just like a superstar. Thank you. It's funny that you say that you like those smaller shows.

That means that you're a great performer. Smaller shows are harder than bigger shows. They definitely are. Like the bigger shows, you're not like looking at one person in front of you, right? Like those small rooms, like everybody's listening to you. Yeah, they're hard to satisfy too because it's like if the vibes are just off, they're off. Like you can't kind of change it. Totally.

But I appreciate that. Thank you. And this pivot into music. Everybody's been fascinated by it. I'm sure that everybody asks you these questions. But like, this is just your life's dream, right? Like, this is the passion project. This is what you've been gunning for.

It is. It's interesting. Like, we're at a point right now where I'm like, I'm literally doing it because I enjoy it. Like, I enjoy messing with the world. I enjoy singing what I want to sing. I do it all so I can perform on a stage. But it really, it really is my passion.

Like, I just, I love it. And, like, I recently had a friend come into my life. that got to know me outside my career for a while before they saw me in my career element. And the second that they saw me on stage for the first time, they were like, I think I'm, they were saying, like, I'm going to be a little tripped out. Like, I know you as this like, chill, like, Joel, Cuell is my real name. And then they were like, whereas most people see you as Jojo see you and then get to know you as Joel.

And I was like, yeah, no, no. I was like, I'm excited to see like what you think. And it's funny. Like, I came off stage and they were like, you are literally meant to be up there. Like when you are on stage, it is so clear that that is where you are supposed to be. And it's a beautiful thing to watch. And that like, I don't know, it melts in my heart a little bit because I was just like, somebody else sees it.

I just, I think that you played it so right. Like, I remember when you like first dropped karma, it was like so jarring. And if it wasn't so jarring, then you couldn't have made this pivot as seamlessly as you are. Like, if you just like slowly went into it, they would be thinking, of the older version of you. And now we're just thinking of you in the moment. So whether that was you, whether that was your team, whoever it was, I think it was like a genius transition.

Talk about that. No, I actually, I would fight a lot of people on it. My team did not agree with me on it. At the time, I was signed to a label and they did not agree with me on it. And they, what did they want you to do? So they, so you know how karma, they, there was another song that we had that they wanted to be released first. And I didn't.

I was like, no, it's karma, karma, karma, karma, karma. And they were like, no. I was like, yes. And then I was like, all right. And this was two years ago at this point. Anyway, so then once I got the green light for karma, I came up with the idea. I wanted to make the video. And they were like, we don't have the funds for this video.

And I was like, great, all good, I do. And they were like, no, like, no, like, don't put your money into this. And they were like, no, I was like, no, I want to. Like, I want to. And they were like, no, don't. And I was like, I am. Get on board or not. Like, it's all good.

Have you always been that strong and secure with your instinct? Yeah. And like, I don't know, I think I just from being in it so young, I've learned from a young age, like, at the end of the day, like, I don't get a run away from being Jojo Siwa. Like, everyone else who works with me goes home at night and, like, forgets about it and, like, has their life. But for me, like, it is my life. You know what I mean?

I am in the best way possible stuck with it. And so I have to make sure that, like, when I fall asleep at night, I'm 100% satisfied in the choices. And, like, that doesn't, that also something I'm really big on is that. puts me in a position of power, right? And one thing when you're in a position of power is you can't abuse it. And I think that's where a lot of people go wrong is they make choices just because they can or just because they want to be right. You know what I mean? But I've learned from a very young age, actually my stage manager taught me, he said, I have the, I have the credential card. And I said, what

does that mean? And he said, well, your face is on everybody's credential. So if you don't get what you want, you can say, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing the show. And then you'll get what you want because we can do the show without anybody else. We cannot do it without you. And I was like, damn, okay. And so, but I've always known that I can't abuse that power because then it's, it's unhealthy. You know what I mean? This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by Quip.

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Spark that joint and saddle up for the stories that I have yet to bring to the internet. Was there ever a scenario where you listened to the suits or the team and you were like, I'll never do this again? Yes, twice in a row back to back just now. And I... You want to say more? Yeah, I mean, I definitely can.

I, with, who, what's the best way to word this? Because, yes, I do. Okay, I'll actually, I can, we just release a song, iced coffee. And right now, I just released a song iced coffee, I should say. There's no, there's not really a wee. It's definitely a me. It does all fall in my shoulders. I do have my, at the time I was signed to the label.

Anyway, so I wanted this song to come out. Boom, drop overnight. It's a scandal. Joe, Joe hasn't been posting. Now this song's out, what the fuck's happening? And that was kind of the, like, idea behind putting out the song. But then, you know, no,

because you got to do two weeks of TikTok promo before. And I was like, typically, yes. I was like, but in this case, no. And then, you know, I always say, like, pick the hill you want to die on. And the choice was either not release at all or do the two weeks of pre-roll on TikTok. And I was like, it's just not going to make it.

When this orange comes out, it's not going to make the effect that. it would have and what do you know who ended up being right I did but it in the end like no one knows that's no one knows or cares about that story that like I if it would have if it would have all happened at once I think it would have had a little bit better of a chance of success and I think it did and I'm super happy with how it did and it made a little bit of a stamp and it's funny and who cares but I think at the end of the day like it would have if we would have done it fully my way and I would have stood my ground and be like no this is the plan this is what's

happening. I think it would have, it would have resulted better. Going back to karma, though, I actually, like the suits, quote-unquote, I love calling the suits, the suits, the suits, quote-unquote, wanted me to edit out the black beast, the, like, iconic karma look with the makeup and the black costume and the wild and that beast look.

And they, after we got the video back, they said that that look isn't pop star and, like, that's not going to work. And I was like, hello? I was like, that's the one thing that is going to work. Yeah, like, you went to Vassar. What do you know about that look as pop star, dear?

Like, how? Like, that's my, this is my angle. Yeah. And so then whatever. They actually, after then Carver was released and that Black Beast look is what took off and the dance is what took off, they actually did have a conversation with me. Like, look, we were wrong. And like, we're going to give you your flowers and we're going to say that we were wrong. And I was like, thank you.

Like, thank you for acknowledging it. Like, I do appreciate that. They're always wrong, right? because they're always taking like a one size fits all approach to somebody who is naturally viral. Like you're viral because you know how to go viral. You mentioned before in passing like you love sort of playing with the public. Yeah. You love playing with the world.

You know how to do that. Yeah. And I definitely, I have my own specific game. You know what I mean? It's funny. One of my friends told me because right now there's this trend of like ignoring right on the internet. Have you seen this trend? No, tell me.

Okay, so basically somebody posted this TikTok. I'm on cholesterol meds. I don't know everything going on social media. And honestly, lucky you. I know you would rather probably not be on them, but lucky you about the social media part. No, big fan, Crestor. Yeah, perfect. When I need them.

At the time, you know who to tax. I got you. You got me actually. I'm not pushing when you're ready. Anyway, so this girl posed this video, like, what if we just started to ignore celebrities and like just see what happened? And that video blew up and all the comments were like, let's get Jojo C-Wil first.

And so the point was to like not like my video, right? Like, not like my videos. Well, I actually, I was able to use this to my advantage because I have the new song out. So I was like, heck yeah. Like, I'm going to post the new song, right? And in four days, it got 80 million views on TikTok. Now it got 100,000 likes, which is a horrible like to view ratio.

I mean, you're talking 80 million views. You're talking 100,000 likes. That's less than 1%. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's a, it's a lot of. Like it's essentially nothing. Is that math correct? Yeah, yeah.

But likes don't make you money. Because 800,000 would be 1%. Exactly. So it's, I mean, it's a fraction of a percent. Two child actors trying to do math. Hilarious. Carry the three and. No, it's like literally

0.0. Yeah. Not good. 1.4%. Like it's like literally nothing. Like it's very low. but what I will say is there's still 80 million views and there's still the comments have hundreds of thousands of likes

the top comment had like 600,000 likes. Like there's definitely a game being played right now and it's funny because what somebody said is they were like, you love to play with the internet, but the second that you backed off and said, I'm not posting anymore, all of a sudden, the internet made their own. game with you because you weren't playing the game anymore with them.

So they made their own with you. And I was like, that's an interesting perspective on it. But yeah, I don't know. It's, I just, I, I'm definitely in a very unique situation, right? Because I never played a character when I was young, right? I always like, you for example, like, and also too, like, they used your real name, which I think has to be such a trip because like you were playing a character, right? Sure.

But in a way you were also using your own name, which was, that had to be kind of trippy as a kid, no? I'm weirdly thankful for it now that when people do call me out on the street, they're like, hey, screech, you know, they're not like, hey, Zeppelin, you know, like, that I am thankful for it. But you're right. Screech.

It was R-I-P. But it was a character that wasn't, and so, of course, people had an expectation. Yeah, and then also, like, from your perspective, you got to grow up and then be who Josh Peck was. You know what I mean? Like, you to kind of break away from that character. Whereas in my position, as a child star, right,

I never really played a character. I played a more elevated, more entertaining version of myself, but it wasn't a character. You know what I mean? Like, no one wants to see me sit in my car and be silent. But everyone wants to see me sit in my car and be like, ah, it's my first I'm driving! You know what I mean? Was that ever exhausting? No, I mean, I loved it. Still due to the day. Like, I mean, yes, it's exhausting, but like not to a point where I didn't want to do it. You know what I mean? It was always me wanting to do it. It was never a team behind me being like, you have to post it would be being like, okay, stop giving me an idea.

Like, I have it myself. I have my next 50 ideas planned. Like, this isn't how this works. You know what I mean? Wow. Yeah. I was psycho as a kid. And how like...

In a good way. Well, how do you manage that? Because to your point, when you are playing with the audience, there's going to be people that are your diehardts. There are people that are going to love it. And then that equation only works where there are people who don't love it. Yeah. And does it, do you take any of that in? It's interesting because right now I definitely have more of those.

I have more people who are against than are for. And my thing is like, look, I was put on this earth. I look at it from a couple different ways. There's a couple different perspectives that help me. And number one, I was put on this earth to entertain. Whether that means people like it or don't like it, they are entertained by it. It is, whether it's a positive or negative, it is successful. You know what I mean?

And I definitely, I like that. Like a lot of people say they don't like karma. Yet they'll come to a concert with the makeup on. You know what I mean? They know the dance. They can sing the song. And so it's like, thanks, babe. Thanks for not liking it.

You know what I mean? It's like, okay. But then this also gets a little more morbid and dark, but it's, it actually helps me a lot. Like I think that like, say Emily, right, is having, Emily is my imaginary friend from when I was a kid. So I always use her name. She doesn't care. Is she here with us now? she's always with me. She's always here.

Hey, Emily, we love you. Can we get her seat? Olivia? No, I'm going to. Come on. She's like tucked in. Very rude of us. But yeah, so say Emily, right, is bullying Susie at school. I don't know if Susie can handle it, right? I don't know if Susie's going to be able to take that mentally, but...

Susie's not real, too? Sorry, I'm trying to keep you. No, fictional people. Gotcha. But if Emily, then all of a sudden is having more fun bullying me on the internet, have out of girl. Like, I know I'm okay. And so in a weird way, I kind of look at it as if, like, I'm saving Susie's life. You know what I mean? Like, I know I can fall asleep and wake up the next day, but I don't know if Susie can.

And so if I kind of take, like, I'm down to take the heat off of other people. When did you figure that out? That helped me about two years ago when I was really going through it. And I was like, fuck the internet. This hurts. But it kind of like, I was like, no, I can handle it. Some people can't. What was that moment two years ago?

Let me be correct on my timeline. It, yeah, it was, oh my God, it was two years ago. Wow. I was going through a public breakup and it's valid. It was our choice to make the relationship public. And so it was also inevitable that the relationship's breakup was also public. You know what I mean? But the full story wasn't out there. And as fun as it was to throw shade from both ends, I'm guilty of it as well. The real stuff from my end was not out there. What really happened by. behind closed doors was not out there. And I did that because I don't, I don't need to, right? That doesn't need to be out there. I'm not on this earth to take anyone down. I'm not on this earth to be the super inspirational, whatever, whatever, whatever. I'm on this earth to entertain and have a good time and make people laugh through an eight-second

video or a three-minute song. You know what I mean? And so it got to a point where I was like, I don't want the real stuff out there because what happened to me actually hurts, right? And I don't like it. and I don't want it to be public knowledge, but also people don't know what happened and they're destroying me because of what they don't know.

And it, I don't know, it really got to me also just like thinking that I could let somebody so into my life and then they could do something so horrid. It really scared me and it put me in a very weird place. But then I was like, no, I can, I'm good. Like, I can handle it, but some people can't. Like, and I'm going to wake up tomorrow and I'm fine. You know what I mean?

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You do consider it. Like in the way that you, in the way that you speak about like the like juxtaposition of you and your audience, the way that you speak about the world keeps turning, but things are larger than me. Like you are, are you a religious person? I mean, yeah, I grew up. I grew up in the church. I, as I got older, I just kind of like lost touch a little bit.

Sure. And I think as, as people do. And as I also think the world is just a very different place. And I also think growing up in Nebraska, you know what I mean? You're surrounded. What do you do on a Sunday? You go to church. But then I think you're, you know, a 21-year-old living in L.A., what do you do on a Sunday?

That's when you have all your Zoom meetings. You know what I mean? Sure. It's definitely, it's just a different, different world that I live in now. But I think that one of the most important things to me is like, whatever you believe in, you believe in it fullheartedly. And like, I do this, I do this thing with my dancers before we go on stage or I grab everyone's hands and we say like we say our little mantras and whatever but then I tell them I say look

I don't care what you believe in but you believe in it right now said if it is your rocks and crystals and if it is God and Jesus if it is a Buddha if it is nothing if it is anything if it is Santa Claus you believe in it right now and you ask it for help and you ask it to get you through this performance and have fun and so I think I think for me when it comes to like religion specifically with it myself it's it's yeah like I of course have my beliefs but I also just like, I think one of the most important things is just letting people do their thing. Yeah.

I think that's the right way to be. And I think. And I also love like learning about other peoples. Like, because religious can mean two things, right? Like, religious can sometimes mean like straight up, do you believe in God and Jesus? Or just like, do you have something that you believe in like, and you believe in wholeheartedly? Totally. And like, one of my favorite things is to like learn other people's religions.

And like learning. I had a Mormon boyfriend for a time. Ooh, what was that like secret pajamas? Tell us everything. Like, I mean, look, we were babies. It was very cute. It was a very sweet, innocent relationship. He was a very good family friend at the time.

He was my first boyfriend. It was adorable. Oh, wow. What are we talking? Like, teenager, like 16? Yeah, I was 17. We were babies. Like, nothing.

Wow. Yeah. Love that. Yeah, right? I'm just getting like, you know, Salt Lake City vibes right now. and I'm here for it. He did to win a baby. I just love it.

Bring him young. Yeah. Yeah. He was a sweet, sweet boy. And it was just, it was cute. Like it was, but to learn about what they believe in and to learn about where,

where they think you go when you die. Like, it was fascinating to me. And same thing with learning about Jewish religion. And obviously, like, I have a Catholic background. And so learning about that growing up and then learning about atheists and then learning about people with rocks and crystals.

Like, it's just like, It's so fascinating to me. And it's like, you got to be careful because it's obviously a very touchy subject. But I think if you can have a conversation where you're curious to learn with somebody, it can actually be one of the most beautiful conversations. Like the simple question of like, what do you think happens when we die? Like, everyone has a different answer.

And it's so fascinating. It's just hysterical. And no one knows, which is what I love the most. I literally said out loud to my best friend the other day. I was like not asking for it to happen. can't wait to die. Can't wait to figure out what happens. Literally, clip it.

No, I'm with you. It is the biggest secret. Jersey, I can't wait to die. Do you have a confetti gun? No, but like, hear me out. Like, I'm so curious. Like, and I don't want to know anytime soon. I'm good.

I don't need to. I'm good. I'm fine to find that one out in 90 years from now. Like, let me live till 11. That's great. But what happens? I heard something recently that... I heard something recently.

I don't know who's right, but I heard something recently that like people used to see ghosts a lot. I don't know if you've seen a ghost recently. I haven't. And they're saying that it's because the afterlife is so good and here is so not good that people don't want to come back anymore.

Look, I will say, I will say whatever you believe in or whatever you don't, there is something. And I would stand my ground on this. I recently have had some experiences. I did, I don't know if I'm allowed to mention this yet, but it's already done. So if they, if they filmed it, we filmed it already.

So though it doesn't really matter that much. But I did an episode of Tyler Henry and I, I got to talk to Tyler Henry. Right into the pod. There you go. And he, I mean, he sat down. He, we brought objects for, we were trying to connect to my grandma on my mom's side and we brought one object to my grandpa, my dad's side. and he immediately grabbed that object. And he picked it up and he started scribbling.

And he said, does the name Joan or Mary mean anything to you? And we just started instantly crying because it wasn't like, oh, I'm getting an older man or oh, I'm getting... Joan is my grandma who's still left on Earth. That was the first thing he said. And Mary is my grandpa's younger brother who also passed away wife who's still on Earth. And it was like my grandpa and his brother were like,

hey, we want to say hi to Joan and Mary. Like, clock it, there we go. Boom, bam. And it was like, it was literally like, there's no way he would have known those names. There's no way he even was like, I'm getting a J name. Like, yeah, sure, my mom's name's J. I'm Jojo. My brother's Jaden.

Sure, there's probably another J name in our family, right? Sure. It was like, it was so spot on it. It was so clarifying. And then even just recently, I had, I have a very good friend who, who's best friend passed away. And it was his 32nd birthday. And I was like, I'm going to go get, it was the friend who passed away birthday.

And I was like, I'm going to go get candles. do, you know, give you a little surprise. And, but it was all a surprise so I didn't tell them. So anyways, I'm going to the store and I'm in the store and I walked down the aisle and I never met this friend who passed away. And I'm in the aisle and like we have this joke that like that friend like literally brought us together. And and all of a sudden I'm in the aisle and the, I need candles, let's say three and two. And the row of candles literally goes one, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine zero. It's like, really?

Wow. The three and the two are what's missing? Wow. Really? Yeah. Like there's no. And I literally said out loud, I was like, good one. I was like, good one.

I see you in here with me. You're testing me right now. This is good. Like, this is a good one. Like, I've definitely had some, like, there's for sure an afterlife sort of experiences. And I'm selfishly so excited to mess with people. Like, be prepared. Y'all will be pranked boots like everybody in my life.

I love it. I will not. If there's an afterlife, I don't want nothing to do with this world anymore. I am going to be so busy. Yeah. For me, an afterlife is like, everyone has just Osempic already injected. Perfect. Right?

Like, it's just, there's a resting OZempic, and it's just access to like five-course meals, and you get to talk to whomever you want. Unlimited cows. There's a great Yiddish word, as I'm sure you know, Jojo. It's called Kibbitts. Okay? Never heard. And it's just a schmooze.

It's just a fun little, what we're doing now? We're kibitzing. We're kippets. It's a nonstop kibbitt. Say it again, kibits. Kibits. I love it. Very good.

It sounds like dog food. You know, my, my Cocker Spaniel eats Kibbitts. But I think kibbutzine and being thin is my dream. We all have one. I'm happy that that's yours. Period. Period. Full stop.

In Australia, they call a period a full stop. Full stop, mate. It's full stop. Yeah. My son, you put a full stop at the end of that. My son, whose two goes, NAR. No.

Keep him Australian. NAR. I think because he wants a lot of Bluey. But for sure. Yes. For sure. NAR.

That's interesting. Bluey is going to have like such a. Yeah. Yeah. And the pig? Yeah. Thank God. God bless them.

Their accents are the best. I'm always fascinated with someone, you know, because we both came out of Nickelodeon, obviously. Yeah. I'm like, both are cheeky little smirked at each other right now. We're like, I'm sorry. I'm sure without character.

We need a handshake. We could have a conversation. Oh, my God. And we can't do it here. Nope, we can't. Yeah. You could. You could.

If we never want to see life again, if we want that death ticket. I know. By the way, the afterlife is great. Why not? We've got to go find our unlimited OZempec path right now. Could you imagine yourself as like a tele preacher? You could have a megachurch. I was thinking the same thing.

When I said that you sounded religious. again in a good way because I'm religious and I think it's a great thing to believe in something whatever it is. I was thinking rock star megachurch, writing some church songs and making it the church of Jojo Siwa. Yeah, Reverend Sewa, Minister Jojo? Like, I love it.

I like that. What's up? Heaven! Yeah. You're ready for a special guest in the name. Please welcome the man himself. Jesus Christ! That would be incredible. I'll play Jesus.

He was Jewish. Sick. Yeah, shout out my apostles. Judas, my lady. Agha starts playing. Oh, Big Gay Church? That's what you call it. Big Gay Church.

Big Gay Church. I love it. Biggie C. BGC. Are you in? You in? I'm in. I'm all in.

I'm in. I've already been in. The Internet's been saying I've been in for years. Can't wait. And this is where I come out. No. Thank God. Welcome.

It's so good to be here. Speaking of that, Love Life, you said, is great. You want to talk more? Talk less about it. We don't have to. No, I'm honestly just so content. Yes. I think it's such a good word, and I'm so patient right now, which is very rare for me.

So I'm very happy to be so content and so curious, I think is another good word. Just curious, content, happy. Just like meeting cool people. Yeah, just. Interesting. Just like, I feel like I'm frolicing. Just like, I feel so angelic and just like frolicing through and like. With how hard you work is, is there room for a Mississippi walk?

It's interesting because actually, yeah. Like there is a, because also too, I'm in charge of myself. So thank God I'm super self-disciplined. But like, yeah, I honestly have a lot of time that I can dedicate to my personal life because because my career is so much, but I know how to do it like no other. Someone once told me it's really hard work, but we're really good. at it. And it's like, it's so true. And did you say before, like, what if you met someone who was like, I love you,

but I also love being a paralegal? Sorry. I love being a pharmacy tech at CVS. And I can't go on tour with you because it's, you know, it's Z-PAC season. Yeah, actually, I had a best friend who I definitely had feelings for. She had feelings for me. It was very mutual. We had a conversation.

And she is very hard because I felt very hard for. for this person. And we, and now, like, I'm, no offense. I'm super happy it didn't work out because I'm in a way better spot now. But at the time, it was really hard and crushed me because she was very honest with me. Like, look, yes, I have feelings for you. Yes, I might even be in love with you. But I can't do your life.

And it crushed me because I was like, fuck. Like, it almost got me thinking, like, if she can't, no one can. And but then I, I realize like, look, life is going to life. The world's going to do what the world's going to do. And yeah, it's a very real thing. And dating me, there's a lot that comes with it. You know, there's the part where it's like, you're dating A, the me that everybody sees, but then B, you're getting the part of me that nobody gets to see.

But then C, you have to deal with the people that think you're dating the person they know. but you also have to convince yourself that you know another side, but not everybody gets to know that. So it's very trippy. It's like... Like you talked about how you, in your past relationship from a few years ago, like you chose to be public. Yeah.

And so, you know, you took on whatever that sort of added element was. But being as well known and famous as you are and prolific. Right. Is there any version where you could have a private relationship? You would think, you would think, but the paparazzi will always get you. And that's a conversation that I have very early on, right? And it's, look, listen, we can keep this as private as we can. However, the second we are outside of a hotel room, outside of, honestly, even inside a car is hard.

So I would say that outside a hotel room, we're outside a house. Like, if you hold my hand, if you put your hand on my leg, if you look at me a certain way, not only paparazzi, but there's just going to be people everywhere videoing. And it's going to get out and the world moves quick. And so it's just kind of a thing to be aware of with people in my life. And I always say, look, like, I'm used to having a very public life. I'm used to everything being aired out, everything being out there and it doesn't get to me. But on this, I'll follow your lead.

Because if something gets out, I want you to be a part of it getting out. But I also want you to know, like, this will. happen and it's it's tough it's tough because it's like you might just be first getting to know somebody and then all of a sudden it's out there everywhere you know what i mean or you might just be out with a friend having a good time and people might be like oh my god new love you know what i mean and it's it's definitely it's definitely hard but i i'm very lucky that most people that i have been in a relationship with have actually like had beautiful souls of course i've had a couple of of fouls, but you know, you have to have the bad to have the good. And I think that I've

definitely rounded a corner, which I'm very happy about. And I don't think all, I don't think I want to ever exploit a relationship. Like that's not for me anymore. That was for me two years ago. And that was crazy. But I think, I think private, not secret is my vibe now. Love that. Love it. Me too. It's intense. It's so intense. And those are very tough conversations to have with somebody. Like it's, how do you talk? talk about that. And it's like, I also hate talking about myself as if I'm famous, especially when it's like with a partner, but it's like, kind of have to in a weird way. It's, it's, it's, they're not easy conversations to have, but with the right person, they are very worth it to have. I mean, you're talking

to two guys that have been married forever with their spouses, like found the loves of their lives, are very happy and lucky. And like, the way that you're saying it, you're going about it the right way and you'll find the right person. It's definitely like a, you got to, you got to weed out the, they're bad to find the good, but I think, I think that approaching it the way that you are is the only way you can do it. And like if somebody, and if somebody doesn't appreciate the whole you, then they're the wrong. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. What in those moments like for me, I'm like, you, you get two of me and you have to like them both. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get to a Josh too. He has multiple personality disorder. Yes. I got my own Emily over here. Yeah. Yeah. I'm literally like,

Hopefully you're in the fucking monogamy or poly because there's literally four of me. Would you be down for Polly? You'll see Josh. Solid. No. You'll see Josh on the street kibbittsing with himself. Literally. But if somebody else is there's literally three of me that I can give you.

So like be my guess. Totally. One shell, three people. I'm not pro Polly either. I don't see it for myself. It's definitely for others and I can see where it is for others. And respect. Respect to their journey.

Definitely too jealous of a person. Yeah, dog? Yeah. No way. But I will say Polly and Monogamy have a difference and that's actually a fascinating

difference to learn about and I think that like I don't know I think for me it's very important that like the love and the commitment is one to one. I think that to me

and like I don't know I'm just I'm very I'm very that's for me right like that's for me but then And anogamy versus non-monogamy, it's something I'm a little more loose on. Like, it's just kind of like, I'm not into it. I don't want to, but learning about it, I'm like, it's kind of cool that you can kind of experience

whatever you want to experience, but you always end up coming back home. Like, I don't. Like go out, have a romantic interlude. Like, do your big one, but then, like, come home to me. Like that. You think you could be okay with someone you were dating doing that? Yeah. Wow, good for you.

Yeah, it's definitely a hot take. for sure, but I think the thing that's important to me is that, like, love and commitment, and I think because I'm a lesbian that's way more emotional than it is physical. And, yeah, I don't know,

I just think, I think with the right person, anything can kind of be right. You know what I mean? As long as my wife didn't hook up with anyone from the Disney Channel. All good. You know, like...

All good. No, like, enemies. But other than... Yeah, all good. If it's a Nick Kid, Fine. I'm not going to ask that. Bit of sad thought.

What would you do if you found out your wife hooked up with a co-star? I mean, that's... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Let me think about my co-stars recently. With Helen. With Helen. With Miranda.

Yeah. Paige and Miranda. What would you do if Paige came to? And she was like, hey, like, I've been having gay thoughts about Miranda. Oh, my. God, I can first of all, clip it.

Secondly, it'd be two. Miranda's like my sister. Yeah, but she's beautiful. She's a beautiful person. She's hot? He's literally grown up together.

I know. That part I could not handle at all. But what if Paige was like, look. I don't want to hear it from my wife. I don't want to hear from Little Pump. Shout out Little Pump. You could probably beat me up.

But I don't like to hear anybody Mickey passes at my Miranda. Like, I just wanted to find a nice person. seven, eight years. Okay. I think she, maybe she's 31, seven. But I was 14. She was eight when she started on the show.

Wow. So I just feel very protective. Yeah. I thought you were a little older. I started on Amanda show when I was 13. Wow. Yeah. Wait, I like this game.

What if Paige like really wanted to have like a romantic encounter with crazy Steve? That I'm here for. He is a tall drink of water. That I get. I cannot give her. that. How old were you win Drake and Josh hello? Drake and Josh ended. 19.

Damn. Yeah. That's crazy. And we only made 60 episodes, but because there's no residuals, they can rerun it forever. And I think that's why people feel like it's just like we did 200. Yeah.

Because they've just seen it so much. That's wild. It's wild. It was a time. That's wild. Y'all were always on in my house. Joe. Same. Yeah. Too good to me.

It's crazy because that's something that's so surreal to me now growing up and like having friends like you, having friends like Raven. I could never call myself friends with Miley, but I met Miley. I watched a rehearsal of hers. I've talked to her. She's incredible. Like that's actually Miranda was one of the first people too that came up to me and was like, oh my God, you're Jojo's who I love you. Like she was one of those first people. She's the best. She's the best, the sweetest angel.

But like growing up watching y'all create like literally my childhood and then like now being older and like like there's like eight year old me is like what the like literal what the fuck like hello? Like it's like it's so surreal. It's really cool. I think that all the time when I'm with Raven. I'm like you're literally my best friend but also like I remember waking up scared because like I saw your eye in the middle of the night on my TV. Like hello? Like, yeah. Raven is the greatest.

Yeah, we love them. When you get Raven with like a drink and a half in her, oh, fucking best. No one can shit talk like Raven Simone. I love Raven. She is the greatest ever. Like just hilarious. I remember once we grew up in it,

we lived in a similar apartment complex in North Hollywood when we were kids. And we went out for sushi one day and she was like, Have you ever had fried Macha tea ice cream? Tempura Macha tea ice cream? Guaranteed she has. And I was like, no, I haven't. Raven, she's like, let me turn you on to something

that's going to change your life. And we just shared a tempora ice cream. Was it good? It was a game changer. It was so... One thing about Raven is Raven will never tell a lie. Oh, God, love her. Yep.

Is there ever things that you see of like the next gen of like kid stars where you're just like, be careful, like as far as just getting too hyped on themselves or any of those pitfalls. Yeah, all the time. I also like, because I think a lot of kids stars now are coming from social media. Right? And so it's like, what's that going to look like in 10 years?

We don't know. But even just working closely with kids, like I have a lot of friends that are, have kids or a lot of friends that are kids just because over the years we've worked together and they're great and they're fun and whatever. and like there's kids like a little girl named Everly, two twins, Tatum and Oakley. And I don't know Halston as well, but I knew Tatum and Oakley very well. There's a little boy named Titus. And all of all of those kids, it's like, anytime I've worked at them, I've been like, yes.

Like, you got it. Like you, you are, you are not only so entertaining and so likable, but you also have it. Like whatever said it is, whether that be the passion behind it, whether that be the, supportive family, like whatever the concoction is to make it work, you have it. And then I've been around some other kids where I'm like, stop working immediately, go to school, like find a firefighter academy, like anything but this. And get out. That's a very hard thing because like, you can't tell the parent that, right? You can't, you can't, but you just have to trust that like the world is going to world and like the kid will find their right path. And I always make it very clear to any kid that I

ever work with like look if you ever need a helping hand out I got you you know what I mean like if you ever need because I think that's one thing and I didn't want the out but I think I didn't really realize that when I turned 18 I could have said I'm done I want to go be a nurse you know what I mean I could have if I wanted to and like I didn't understand that I could have I didn't want to I don't want to I couldn't identify more with what you're saying yeah it's like now that you're older you're like oh my god I literally could have 100 but in the in the moment you're like no, I can't. I have to keep going. But I, and no need to answer if you don't want to.

Also, like, I supported my family. Yeah. So if I at 18 said, you know, bye mom, then she, and she was older, she was in her 60, she would have had to figure out how to live again. Yeah. And it's, it's tough because it's like, I think when you're in that position, you can't see that that decision would be okay. That's right.

Right. But when you're out of that position, you can look and look. hindsight and be like, okay, no, like, we could have had money to live off of while everyone found a job. And, like, maybe it wouldn't have been living lavish with the millions, but like, we would have been able to put food on the table if you would have gone to work, you know what I mean? Or if you would have figured it out or even going to investments or remote work or there's, there's options, right? But I think that when you're so in it, you don't see that.

And so that's why, like, one of those conversations that. And I haven't had to have them yet with the kids because they're very young yet. I mean, Everly's, 10, Titus is maybe nine, Tater-Rogley are eight. Like, they're all really little. But when they are 15, 16, 17, like, I will make sure that I have those conversations with them being like, look, in your position that you are in right now, you can leave it in your childhood. And, like, it was also your parent's choice to quit their life for you. And so now it's going to have to be your choice to decide if they have to go back to that. In hindsight, like, for you, right?

13 years, right? You were 13 years old. Yeah. In hindsight, it was five years essentially that their life was dedicated to you. You know what I mean? It can correct me if I'm wrong on that. But like they made their living before then. They can go back to it after then. But in it, you don't see that. You don't see that at all. Like I didn't see that. My mom could have gone back to being a dance teacher. My dad could have gone back to being a chiropractor and like all good. And then people in a good way will move on from you. Yes. Like that's what I did. didn't see either. I thought like, I was like, like, I realized, like, if I would have just turned 18 and

like gone away and like literally stopped and left it in my childhood, people would have, people wouldn't bug me in Target. You know what I mean? And it's like, right. You think like, oh, that'll never happen. But like, no, it will. But where I'm lucky is like, I want it. Like, I want to keep going. Like, it's my passion. It's what I love to do. But I think that it's important for the people to know if it's not your passion, you can literally leave it. I also sometimes when people ask, because they always love to ask that question, you know, especially because I have kids, like, would you want them to get into the business? Yeah. And I always say, you know, I think if they enjoy it performing, they should go to every acting class and do every school play and do it, you know,

I'll support their passion no matter what. Yeah. But the difference between starting at 13 and at even 17 is four years. But if you started 17, you're not a kid actor. Right. You're just basically a grown up. Yeah. And people won't look at you with that moniker. which can be a little bit of like a blessing and a curse. Yeah, it's interesting. It's like I think any life path has its pros and has its cons, right? You look at some child stars, look that when they started as a baby, right? Some child stars, Raven is a great example.

Raven started fucking six months old, like baby. She doesn't know anything else. And then you look at some that started, I mean, I started around as nine, you started when you were 13, and there are some that start when they're, you know what I mean? Like it's somewhat like artist-wise like chapel rowne, right? Yeah.

She started making music 10 years ago. Megan actually is a better example because I can talk highly of Megan Trainor and knowledgeable in Megan Trainers world. Like all about that base came out when Megan Traynor was 19. Jeez. Like that's when she rose to fame.

You know what I mean? And so it's it's like interesting like what age makes a difference. And I think for me, honestly, fame is so much easier because I was a child star. and like I kind of grew slowly. I think if I actually in my case,

if I had a whole life before just say karma came out, I would be like, what the fuck is this? I can't handle people being mean to me. I can't handle this. Why is everyone looking at me? Why are people wearing my makeup? Like, but because people wore my bows, it makes sense why people wear my makeup.

You know what I mean? Like it all. And like my friend, my friend Tyler Cameron, who's like literally my family. He always says like you, because he grew to fame when he was mid-

20s. And he had a full normal life before then. And he's like, you navigate being a 21-year-old really well publicly. Like, these are your years where you're supposed to be a train wreck. And, like, you actually handle it really well. And so, like, it's, it's kind of interesting. Tyler's the best. Uh, y'all know Tyler? We do. We're really close with him. That's our, that's our connection. Tyler's the best. He's literally the best. I'm literally sitting here. I just want you guys to know listening to the best podcast ever. Like, that last 10 minutes, I was just like, in the audience and like listening to the inside baseball, like sometimes it doesn't translate. Like we've had guests where it doesn't.

Like that was, that was awesome. And like it's just like it's just such like a unique perspective. Like you don't realize that you can get out. And like as people that aren't child stars, like we decide what we want to be when we're 18. That's another interesting thing. Or really when we're 22. Like if you go to school, you have so much time to figure it out. but there is a benefit of being thrusted into something also.

Like you sort of had, if you can see it that way, you had an opportunity to have a career before anybody even started thinking about having a career and trying things. And I'm also like specifically to me and not to talk about me, me, me, me, but I'm a very unique case. Like I, the more you get to know me, the more you're like, yo, your brain's being studied when you kick the can. Like, because what is different in there? Like it's, and it's something that I don't. try to like prove to people that my brain's different, but it does work in very different ways. Like

even back in the day when I did go to school, like I used to like buy this started when I was in like sixth grade. I would I would buy sixth grade right. It was an online program and I would click the first math lesson and I would like scan the lesson and be like, okay, I'll figure it out and I'd go to the questions and I'd get 100%. So then I'd jump and I'd do like the sixth lesson. I'd go from one to six and then I would just go straight to the questions and I would know how to do it. And then I would be like, all, all, I'm just going to try to take the end of the year test

and see if I can pass. And I would know how to do it all. Like, it was very strange. So then I would buy seventh grade and then eighth grade. And then that's how I graduated so early as I just kind of like breeze through it all, which is like crazy.

Like I definitely though now like knowing people and like having a girlfriend at the time who was in high school when I should have been in high school but I was already graduated. She did this math problem. And she was like, answer this and she tried to make a really hard Albert Einstein problem and I did it and she was like how'd you get that answer? And I was like, well, I just did. Like I don't know. And she was like,

well, show me your work. And I was like, I mean, no. And she was like, well, that's what you have to do. And I was like, okay, well, fine, okay. So I showed her how I did it. And she was like, I've never seen someone solve a math problem like that. And I was like, but did I get the answer? She was like, yeah. And I was like, great. Can we move on with our life? And she was like, yeah. Like it was a very strange conversation and that's kind of like my work mentality too like it's very different but in like a i guess a good sort of way can you imagine jojo in a remake of goodwill hunting oh i love it doing the equations no you're rob i'm optioning it right now i'm a producer don't boot me from being a producer jojo i mean look it was your idea so i can't take it from you we all heard it here

okay so our final segment is called what do you nuts bet and i will start we'll give you time to think are what are you nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places, and things things big or small, whatever's sticking in your craw, anything dumb, huge, or anything in the middle that's just like, what do you nuts? Like, it just makes you... Usually funny.

Like, they're lighthearted. You can take it wherever you want. We'll give you an example. What are you nuts? Yeah. So, like, something in life that makes you want to say, what are you nuts? You're walking down the street.

What are you? Nuts? Like, what are you a psychopath? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yes. So I. Yeah. Yes. Okay, good.

Nats. Finally, someone said it. Okay, give me your examples on that I'll think. Okay, so I'll go first. So I was in an Uber recently, and the guy was just drenched in Cologne. And I'm sure you've gotten into a car like this before, where the driver is just wearing so much Cologne. And it got me thinking to myself, like, why are you wearing Cologne? Are you trying to make out with me?

Like, are you trying to make a pass at me, the passenger? Yeah. Because otherwise, I don't understand why you're wearing cologne. Is it, like, what is the purpose? Like, you're, you're, I can't breathe back here. And, like, the purpose of cologne is to, like, send a signal to somebody. So I don't get it. What do you not?

Stop wearing the cologne. If you need to, you can take a shower that's totally up to you. But dousing yourself in cologne is not good for me. It's not good for you. It's not. You're nuts. It's a confined space. I don't need to choke on your cologne.

My what are you nuts moment of the week is, Me, Woody and Nuts, and when I am nuts, it's always good. I don't mean to brag, I have a membership to Sky Zone Trampoline Park for me and my son. I'm doing well, I don't want to talk about it. And so we go there. And of course, we have our own socks with the stickies on the bottom. Absolutely. We're regulars.

And so we forgot them. So we went and I said, what kind of price gouging are these people going to do? do now. I said, this is where they make their money. Oh, God. Go in. And I say, yes, I'm going to need two sets of socks for my son and I. And they go, oh, no problem. Those will be $18. Okay. Maybe $14. I'm not sure. 18 sounded better. Each or? No, for two pairs. Okay. But these are like throw away, like, you know, you can't use them. Right. You can't reuse it. It's not that bad. Like you're either in the mental hospital or you're in Sky Zone. There's no other place to you.

Here's sticky socks. 100%. So I'm like, this is nuts. And I was like, and so I'm giving a whole dissertation to the woman behind the counter. I said, you know, they really price couch. This is how they get you. They know you're going to forget. They know it.

So she goes, yeah. So I buy the socks. And then all of a sudden I hear on the announcement as we're like, you know, playing like trampoline dodge mall. All socks. All socks revenue is going to the St. Jude's charity for children. In all of the same break. What am I nuts? SkyZone's an incredible company.

I'm an idiot. Shout out St. Jude's. Oh, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's really good. That's funny. That's really good.

You got one? It can be really minor. Straight people. straight people was a good one. It's amazing. If you want to elaborate, you can't. Straight people, straight sex. Okay. No, actually, I do have one. I do have one. This is to actually the first gay person.

I don't know who you are. I don't know when you were. I don't know where you're from. But I want to know who was the first person to look at the same sex and be like, let's try this that's nuts what are you nuts like think about it somebody for the first time

and like yes yes yes hit me with the technical like animals haven't given for it yes hit me with the technical like who knows how humans were even developed there might have been two females first like who knows yes but like just stick with me here

just say there's a man and a woman for the first time they made they have a kid they have a kid they have a kid they have a kid The kids have kids like we're all just whatever somehow related. But who was the first person that was like, I got an idea. Or this is so bad. This is so bad.

This is so bad. Who was the first person that was like, I wonder what that tastes like. What are you nuts? Isn't that nuts? The first, the first are all nuts. I think about this all the time. The first person that ever found out that you could drink cow's milk. What, do you just put his mouth on the utter?

Nuts. For fun. Nuts. Go simple. First person that decided you can eat an apple, but you have to peel an orange. Who was the first person that bit into an orange? A fucking nutso. Yes.

Jodjo. Notts. Spectacular. What a show. Absolutely. Joe, what can you plug? Anything to plug on this enormous podcast? Do we know when it's coming out?

In the new year. Oh, fun. Okay. So, yeah, new music's coming out. might be doing a really fun TV show in April. Stay tuned. Hopefully that happens. And if it doesn't, it's all good.

We'll be doing music then instead. I'm going to have a really fun announcement, having something to do with live shows very soon. Oh my God. There's so much. It's all music based. So, you know, follow me everywhere. It's show to see you hearing me talk about how nuts people doing things for the first time

doesn't make you want to follow me anywhere. But in case it does, follow me everywhere. You're the best. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Appreciate you guys. You are the best.

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