Good Guys - NEW GUYS! with Emmy Winner Lamorne Morris and Kyle Shevrin
Episode Date: September 30, 2024Mazel Morons! It's another immaculate Monday and the guys are back with a true gem of an episode for you. Today, we're joined by none other than Lamorne Morris and Kyle Shevrin! We're talking everythi...ng from Lamorne's recent Emmy win to ALIENS, and how 2011 took Lamorne from national commercials to New Girl in 1 YEAR. (!!!) Additional topics of discussion include: Lamorne and Kyle's roommate dynamic, Vin Diesel's secret language, Going Full Pacino, Ben Carson, and who else auditioned for the role of Winston. Plus, We answer YOUR Speakpipes about boundaries with in-laws, and there *might* be another scene reading from Training Day. Hope you love it! Or what are ya nuts?! Be sure to check out Josh and Ben on the Lamorning After podcast HERE Leave us a voicemail here! Sponsors: Get results you can run your fingers through! For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code GOODGUYS10 Redefine learning with play - explore projects that build confidence and problem-solving skills with KiwiCo! Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com with promo code GOODGUYS. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The following podcast is a dear media production.
I'm Josh Peck and I'm Ben Sauffer.
And we're the good guys.
There's a lot of guys out there.
And we're the good ones.
Mosul morons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast.
I'm sitting here with a guy that puts irritable and irritable bowel syndrome.
It's Ben Sauffer.
I am irritated, but I'm incredibly excited because folks, you know him and you love him
and New Girl.
He's currently nominated for an Emmy for his work in Fargo.
We're all polling for him.
He has his own fantastic podcast.
that he does with his wonderful co-host,
an actor and comic in his own right,
called The Morning After that we just did,
and it was an absolute hoot.
It's Limon Morris and Kyle Shepard.
Folks, thank you so much for joining us.
How was that intro?
Pretty good, right?
That was unreal, dude.
Well, he called me Limon.
You couldn't hear it.
You couldn't hear me.
I did not.
I heard you body roll.
You went like this.
He went Lomone.
That was my nickname.
That was my college nickname.
I'll keep it that one.
Lamarne, promise.
That's what I said.
Not Lamon.
You're Italian now, Lamorne.
Lemone.
Limon.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever gotten like any kind of sexy nickname from someone.
Really?
Just fat fuck.
Well,
that's a good one.
That's sexy.
Yeah, fat fuck.
Yeah, that's what I got usually through most of my childhood.
That's what my wife.
That's what my wife gave me early on.
She's like fat buck.
But you're out there making love.
Yeah, that's all that matters.
No, there's more to love.
Exactly.
Ben and his wife are separately two of the greatest people there is
and together make an incredible couple.
But would you say, Ben, that you guys sometimes have a bit of a Jeff Garland,
Susie Esman type vibe?
We are, we are Frank and Marie.
from everybody loves Raymond.
Like that's us.
I love that.
That's us.
That's our vibe.
Like it's just we love,
love, love, love, love.
But yes, 100%.
Well, tell us about your podcast.
We just did it.
It was incredible.
And how'd you guys meet?
Give us a little bit of the backstory.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I've told this story before,
but I moved to L.A. from New Jersey.
And when I first got out here, like the nerd I was,
I went to the library.
And I went to go grab this,
I think it was like how to attract women in the workplace or something.
And this like mocha chocolate hand reached for the same book at the same time.
And I looked up and it was Lamorne.
He was the first person I met in L.A.
Hold on.
Let me mocha chocolate.
Yeah.
checks out.
See?
That's how you know the story.
Beautiful.
No, we met.
We met what, like 11.
I think we're on year 11 now.
Yeah.
We met out of a bar actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nothing, not like Grindr, but similar circumstance.
We were both there with different groups of people.
Kyle had just moved here.
Yep.
And I was leaving and he stopped me and was like, hey, dude, I'm a comic, I'm a writer,
you know, what's up, dude?
Like, I'm just moving out here if you ever need, like, help with anything.
And I think at the time, we're all writing partners.
So we were, like, looking for someone, like a scribe, if you will,
someone that could, you know, just kind of hang out and, like, take notes or whatever.
Like a writer's assistant.
Yeah, like a writer's assistant.
But it turns out he was just as funny as all of us.
So it was one of those things where we were like, oh, man, welcome.
Welcome to the fold and hazed him a little bit.
We made him do weird stuff in music videos for a little while.
Yeah.
And then look at him.
Look at him now.
Vest it up.
So is that a good reason to shoot your shot, Kyle?
I feel like you always shoot your shot.
You should always shoot your shot.
I mean, you won.
You shot and now you live with the man.
Ben, you're going to start shooting your shots, we know.
You're starting a family soon.
Yeah, no, I just felt
I was so naive and so nude L.A.
and like didn't really know
kind of how this industry worked or whatnot.
So, you know, I literally had just seen Lomorne
on an episode of New Girl.
And it was so weird.
It was like one of the first people I saw
from kind of like from TV.
And then I don't even know why.
I just said something.
And then we just started talking
and like each project kind of got a little bigger
and a little bigger.
And now we're on year 12 of our friendship.
and we're like a griddled CTE-written NFL player.
Yeah.
No benefits.
OGs with bad knees.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Oh, and the reason we started the podcast is because
we're always just talking shit every day anyway.
So we're like, why don't we just start recording this thing?
Yeah.
And he's done everyone in anyone's podcast.
Yeah.
So it was like, just time.
It just made a lot of sense, you know,
especially in this day and age.
where everyone's so opinionated about politics, race, sex, religion, all these different things.
And we're like, we don't draw hard lines anywhere.
We're like, all right, let's just have some fun.
Let's kind of mock a lot of these things.
Let's interview folks and not necessarily talk about the things that they're like known for so much.
You know what I mean?
Because, you know, for us, like for me, what I would, what when people interview me sometimes,
it's great too because it's usually about something that I'm working on which you know as
as performers we're very passionate about the stuff that we're doing so I want to talk about it
but then sometimes on a podcast you want to kick your feet up and talk shit about conspiracy theories
yeah yeah people didn't know that like there's a lot of stuff when I'm like watching certain
podcasts I didn't know that about that person because on a traditional like news outlet you
won't learn that about them so we want to kind of you know talk shit about nothing
things that don't actually matter that much.
What's a conspiracy theory you're hot on right now?
What's tickling your, you know?
Oh, man, I've been watching a lot of Ben Carson lately.
Ben Carson.
Ben Carson.
Is that the guy who ran for president?
He did.
Yeah, he ran for it.
Was it Ben Carson I'm thinking about?
Yeah.
He's got the pizza joint.
Oh, no, I'm thinking of the other guy.
Who had the pizza joint?
Herman McCain is a pizza joint?
Hold on.
Let me see.
No, isn't Ben Carson the doctor that?
The doctor that ran for president?
Isn't that who?
No?
Yes, Dr. Ben Carson.
Yeah.
I'm not thinking of Ben Carson.
Who am I thinking about?
What's the guy's name?
Graham Hancock.
Ben Shapiro.
You're a big Ben Shapiro.
No, I was, like, Warren.
I was, you're listening to a lot of Dr.
Ben Carson?
What's the guy?
What's his name?
What's the thing about Graham Hancock?
Not Graham Hancock.
The black dude.
What am I thinking?
The black conspiracy theorist guy?
There's so many.
Not Dr.
Lomar Johnson.
This is so many.
It's my whole YouTube algorithm.
It's not Ben Hancock.
Carson? No.
Ben Davis.
Wait, let's see.
Watch. Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, wait.
Cat Williams?
I feel like we're getting warmer, no?
What is his name?
Motherfucking cam trails.
It's motherfucking camtrails.
You see the problem that motherfuckers have.
Oh, damn it.
I forget.
Damn it, never mind.
Never mind.
What's Ben Carson up to, though?
I'm so glad he brought them up.
Definitely spreading some conspiracy theories.
I think I even thought about him at all.
My YouTube might tell me who it is.
It is crazy how sometimes, you know,
those people get all the way up to like running for president
and then they don't win
and then you just never hear from them again.
You're like, where are they?
And I don't know where he is.
Yeah, great question.
Yeah, we're like, where's baseball Mitt Romney?
Like, I miss that guy.
He's going around.
He's kicking around.
Man, he's jet set in somewhere.
I don't know.
You guys don't know the black dude?
Who does the conspiracy theories?
Dude, there's so many.
What about the guy, Riley Martin?
Remember Riley Martin from the Howard Stern show?
Riley Martin, no.
Oh, yeah.
I just remember Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice.
Riley Martin, basically, his whole thing was that he had had contact with aliens.
And he'd be like, hello, I'm Riley Martin.
And, like, it was pretty good.
Are you good at impressions?
Not really.
Okay.
But I, I, the thing, my issue with conspiracy theories is, and my friends who are really into it,
I want to be like, the problem is if you're right, I have to stop believing in everything
I've ever believed in ever.
Yes.
You know?
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
I got super into like time travel kind of recently.
Mm.
And Stephen Hawking did a experiment where he said, like,
Did she figure out a tweet?
Billy Carson.
Billy,
who the heck is that?
He's a sham wild guy?
No,
he's been on,
he's been on,
Calrissian.
That's Billy D.
Billy Carson, he's always on
Rogan,
he's always on these different people's podcast.
He's always,
he's with Graham Hancock.
You just said Ben Carson again.
Billy Carson.
Yeah,
okay.
Billy Carson.
Sorry,
sorry.
I need a photo of this guy.
So to rewind, yes.
I'm big on,
I'm big on ancient alien civilizations
and about how.
Yeah.
What we think we know, even though I don't believe that, but what we think we know of our origin is not accurate, that we come from aliens.
That would be so great if that were the case because it would be fun to think about.
I love that conspiracy theory.
That conspiracy theory is perfect because for us to think, I always think this, for us to think that we are the most advanced ever, I just don't think it's true.
I don't see it.
Sure, we pick this technology, but I'm a big fan of how the fuck we.
where those pyramids built
like to a T
just doesn't make sense.
With thumbs.
Slaves with thumbs.
Yeah, but even slaves, too good.
It's just, it's too perfect.
Here's what I think.
Here's my conspiracy theory.
Oh, let's go.
Is that it reminds me of this quote
from Breaking Bad, Walter White.
Let's see how long it takes him to get to the Jews.
So the Jews.
So Walter White,
Remember Walter White when he says to his wife and she's like, you know,
what if they come for us and what's going to happen to the kids and what's going to happen and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he looks at it and he goes, I am the one who knocks.
What if we are the ones who've been like discovering other planets?
What if we are the most advanced and what we've been doing is going to different civilizations,
stealing things, stealing tech, maybe developing, maybe building,
What have we been doing this forever?
And we just were just led to believe that, oh, there's these other beings that are out there that are, that are, it's almost like sometimes with like war.
When we like, we go and we start wars or we have these things all over the world.
Throughout the beginning of time, it's not always about what you think it's about.
You know, the people, we kind of are like low on the food chain as far as information goes.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's way above our pay grade.
But we forgot, we forgot that we did all this stealing.
No, no, no, no.
We as citizens, no, but the higher-ups, we as citizens, we don't know this information.
We never knew it.
Yes.
But my conspiracy is that we've been going out and we've been like pillaging other planets and civilizations forever.
I'm in who, Hillary Clinton?
I just think like our world leaders.
I'm in on this.
So everyone got denuralized.
Yeah.
What's that expression?
History was written by the victors.
like, hello.
Hello.
Yeah.
I'm in.
I'm in.
You see what I mean?
Yes, Vin Diesel, Victor.
Yeah.
Who's got it better than Vin Diesel?
He's never lost a race.
Yeah, think about it this way.
Like, the Vin Diesel characters come from somewhere.
We don't know any Vin Diesel-like characters in our lives, like the Rock and stuff like that.
We don't know them because they're all often other planets like beating up aliens and like taking over other civilizations.
I could see that.
I'm in.
So the rock and Vin Diesel in this industry, they've squashed their beef.
and they're conquering planets like Thanos.
Yes.
Or Tang.
I could get in on that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
They deleted him from the MCU.
I don't know who that is anymore.
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Isn't Vin Diesel and The Rock having alleged beef?
I guess it's been confirmed.
Yeah.
Isn't it like the most reflective, like,
brother's story.
They could not look more alike.
Just like brothers,
you know, if you're picking a side,
if you have to pick aside,
Vin Diesel or The Rock, who are you going with?
Josh, you start.
Oh, Lord.
Oh, man.
See, here's the problem, right?
The Rock is that brother.
You, like, feel like they're going to protect you,
but they're also the one at 6 a.m.
being like, let's go for a run.
Yeah.
And you're like, fuck.
And then Vin is the brother who's like,
want to go like figure out some mail fraud?
You know?
They both love you.
Yeah.
But, you know, they have different ways of going about it.
Yeah.
Exactly right.
It's really hard for me to pick between the two because, like you said, the rock,
man of the mana, the mana, fellow POC.
But then you have Vin, just the goat, right, of street racing.
Amazing.
and of Riddick.
Yeah.
And made up his own language that he's when he speaks English.
Oh yeah, yeah.
He does do that.
I guess funny stories.
I can't pick between it too.
It's so hard, Ben.
Don't make me do this.
You have to.
And here's why I can't pick.
I worked with Vin once.
But I also, I worked for, he's fantastic.
He's such a character.
He is such a character that it's hard for me to be like,
and on the low, like, was doing so much for me.
you know what I mean?
Like it's weird.
I can't go into details about it.
But like, he's dope.
But he is his own thing when he's on set.
You know what I mean?
It is the VIN show.
And rightfully so, because he is,
you know what I mean?
Like he's Vin Diesel.
He's Dominic Torretto.
You know, I want,
that's what I want for my career
is to get to that point where it is,
like I do,
I can do whatever I want.
You know what I mean?
I'm not, you know,
I'm not,
he doesn't abuse it or anything like that.
I'm just saying like,
that would be great to have those,
to reach those types of heights,
you know,
in comedy or in drama.
You know what I'm saying?
The Rock,
I don't know him very well.
I met him once.
I did one scene in Jumanji,
and we met at the table read,
but he couldn't have been,
like he was so nice and so kind.
After doing the table read,
he like stood up and was like,
this is proof that we can make this movie
without Kevin Hart.
And,
And they gave me a scene in the movie.
And I was just like, man, that's,
and I only hear good things about him.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah.
I can't really choose,
but I have a,
I have a connection with VIN, I would say.
Tell me about this special VIN language.
Are you allowed to share?
No, yeah, yeah.
Vin, when he would talk with his,
with his close buddies on set, he would go,
and they would be like,
yeah, they would laugh.
And they were apparently understanding every,
single thing that he was saying.
And I just kept looking like,
what you're laughing about?
They were like,
I looked at him and I was like,
why are y'all just laughing because he's Vinn?
I was like, he ain't saying shit.
And he looked at me and he goes,
shot down.
When you hang around me long enough,
you don't know exactly what I'm talking about.
Wow.
You were like Mark Sinclair,
you're talking gibberish.
I was like, you're not saying anything.
And then,
then years later,
I remember someone saying that about
him. They were like, yeah, he speaks. Sometimes
when he's like trying to communicate with just a
couple people, he'll go, and they go,
oh no, he's actually saying something.
And you do have to be like around him long enough
to understand exactly. And that's how
they speak to
each other. I'm like, you gotta be kidding
me. This whole time I thought they were just
doing a thing. And it turns out, no,
this man has become
such a goat that he doesn't actually have
to speak. And people will understand
exactly what he means. God,
he's cool. He is so cool.
He's the whole package.
I really wanted to say The Rock.
Like, I love The Rock.
But after that story, nobody's cool than Ben Diesel.
Makes up his own language and forces his friends to use.
There's nothing cooler than that.
Yes.
Can you imagine if you're on set and you're miced?
Yeah.
And you don't want to stick.
You're trying to have like a personal conversation.
You don't want to take your mic off.
You start speaking in this coded language.
Good.
It's like, you know what I mean?
Like, because those sound guys be listening.
Have you ever run into that where, because as actors,
you're as you know the three of us like you get miced up you're wearing something called a lapel mic so it's
on your body technically for the whole day yeah and the it's all being sent to the sound guys and in theory
they can control whether everyone else with headsets can hear it but they can listen as much as they
want yeah has that ever happened to you where like they were like like sounds like a rough night
last night what does he know that's luckily that's never happened to me i've only worked with like
Pretty dope.
No, well, I say that back.
I did this sketch.
I did this.
I'm not going to say where I did it,
but it was the funny superhero sketch thing.
You could look it up.
But I just remember at the time,
my ex-girlfriend was also in it.
So it was us two as like a mundane superhero couple or whatever.
And I remember us having like a personal like conversation on the couch,
like kind of like,
it might have been like sexual in nature it might have been i don't remember just like being
flirty with each other sure and i just remember saying something funny she laughed but i'm way across
the room but the sound guy with his headphones on also laughed oh no and i went like this and then he
looked over and he was like did he put his hand up i was like motherfucker are you he was like no no
and i was like so what do you know i'm talking about and he was like dude no i'm just no and he got so
flustered. And I was like,
this man is listening.
Yeah. Yeah. So that was the one time.
Isn't the most famous story?
And I don't know how rated are. I mean,
we've made George's... No, I think it's
Stallone. Stallone was in his trailer
like getting a blow job.
And his sound, his
mic was still on.
And the sound guy just, I don't know
what he did with that information.
Oh, yeah.
This is incredible.
We'll get back in the ring one more.
They call Iraqi, but it's pretty smooth, isn't?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, fight to fight.
I'm a fair.
Oh, my gosh.
No, I heard the, if you heard the story about, is it Pacino or it might have been Pacino,
where he's in his trailer and he says, I forget, or De Niro, I forget who it was,
but he goes, damn, I have a headache.
And he said that to himself in his trailer.
And then, like, a few minutes later, a PA comes in Knox.
on his door with Tylenol.
And he went and immediately fired the sound guy.
Damn.
Immediately.
What's your favorite Pacino movie?
Oh, man.
I mean, there's like the classics, the, you know, scent of a woman.
Yeah.
But I'm trying to think of like the ones.
I worked with him once.
Really?
So I got to get full Pacino up close.
Whoa, do tell.
He was the greatest.
But it was fascinating because, like, you know, we are,
my scenes were only with him.
So halfway through the days, like, in his mid-70s,
and he would just, like, look at me and go,
oh.
He'd go,
are you,
are you full Pacinoing me right now?
So good.
Pacino and Donnie Obrosco is great.
I like the one with Keanu,
is it Keanu Reeves?
Devil's.
Devil's advocate.
Yeah.
I love Devil's advocate.
He was another level of disgusting.
in that one, which I thought was, and I love seeing,
even though he's played a lot of bad guys and stuff like that,
I do love seeing, like,
actors that you respect in such a,
and you hold in the high regard,
just getting weird.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's why I love Denzel in Training Day so much.
You know what I mean?
Because we're so used to him being this heroic figure,
but you see him acting like a gangster and just like doing wild stuff,
it like,
it takes you out for a little bit of, like, reality.
Oh, yeah.
So when he was in that, when he's with the demons and he's the devil and all this shit,
I'm like, that's, whoo.
That's cool.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
How to fuck you knew that ring was a foothcase.
I'm dying to know.
That's not Ibraska.
Can you do Pacino, Godfather Pacino, young Pacino?
I can't.
But there's a little more here.
Yeah.
It's a little like lighter here.
Yeah.
I can't do that one.
You broke my heart.
Yeah.
That's really good.
I can only do the deeper one, like the any given Sundays.
Oh, yeah.
On this team, we claw with our fingernails for that inch.
Yeah.
It's so funny, my father-in-law played for the Jets for a decade.
Holy crap, nice.
Quarterback, true athlete.
And so me.
Joe Namath.
That means my actual father.
Ken O'Brien.
Okay.
All for the 80s and 90s.
So I being, like, having nothing to offer him athletically,
just a total disappointment of the son-in-law will be like,
how about football movies?
So, like, I've shown him that scene from any given Sunday
where Pacino's just laying into the players,
just this epic coach speech.
And he kind of was like, obviously, Pacino, like, one of the greatest.
Like, you know, Oliver Stone, an amazing movie.
He goes, that has never, will never, could never happen.
It could not be further from reality.
Oh, that's so funny.
Like, you imagine they come in and give like some passionate speech
and then one player is like, the fuck you talking about that?
I'm hearing a ball, man.
I don't know what I love this shit.
Ben.
Throw the ball, catch the ball, run the ball.
Shut the fuck up.
When your mother is ringing the dinner bell and you're running this project hallways.
What's he saying?
Oh, you go, on this team, we...
Oh, fuck, what did he say?
No, no.
Look at the guy next.
to you. I think you're going to see a guy
who will go that strange. You're going to see a guy. And he keeps
good. And then Cameron Diaz walks in and you're like,
I like this movie. Yeah. So, LeMorton, you
brought it up. You brought it up. I wasn't prepared for anything.
Yeah. But you did bring something up. Yeah.
You love the movie Training Day. Yes. I too.
Oh. I love the movie Training Day. Oh, very nice.
You look at your phone.
I just text you a little something.
Uh-oh. Is it a script? It came up.
green. So I don't know if maybe you're
Oh, you get you texted an old number.
You were blocked in the middle of the episode. No, no,
you were texting me. Hold on. You were texting me
earlier before.
We're not in the group chat. Fucking A man.
I was going to say Josh was blocked mid-app.
I don't know what happened.
No, look. It's not good.
Did you get my texts just now?
Hold on. Let me see.
Ever since my SIM card went down in New York.
My two phone numbers get weird. Don't worry. I'll send you a text.
Yeah, we'll send you a script.
Hold on.
I just sent you a little something.
Maybe it's a scene from Training Day.
Maybe you could play Alonzo,
then to Washington.
Are you playing Hoy?
And maybe I could play Ethan Mark.
I don't know.
It's a long scene, but I'm down.
We'll do like a page.
I'll lead you in.
Okay.
This is crazy.
Hold on.
We could do, I believe it's the middle of page 88.
Page 88.
Page 88.
Scene 1.
Let me get my voice right.
It's in the middle.
We'll start with my line.
What's the line you're going to start with?
That man was your friend.
Ready?
Okay.
Action.
That man was your friend.
And you killed him like a fly.
Friend.
Because I drank his whiskey and he knew my name.
Shit.
I was playing his ass.
That's my job.
That's your job.
Roger sold dope to kids.
World was better off without him.
He's the biggest major violator in L.A.
I've been watching that cocksucker operate with impunity for 10 years.
Now I got him.
This shit's chest, not checkers.
Can't just slap cuffs on a cat like that?
Look, look, look, look, look, keep the money.
I told you, I don't want it.
Just take it.
Throw it in the ocean, barbecue it, just take it.
It will make the boys feel better.
No, fuck their feelings.
You're not making anyone feel.
Oh, you're not making anyone feel you're on the team.
Isn't that sound of more?
It was perfect.
We'll just send it out.
Oh, my gosh.
That was unreal.
Oh, my gosh.
You do a better than Denzel.
That was unbelievable.
I thought I was in the movie for a second.
Ben,
do you feel like you were in the movie?
I have goosebumps.
Like, holy smokes.
I thought I was going to catch a straight bullet.
What scene do you guys have prepared?
All right.
We're going to do something for my now pronounce you, Chuck and Larry.
I'm going to send it to you.
Okay.
Life is a circle.
It's a circle.
I leave you key.
You seem like a man where Pacino is not your only,
not your only go-to impression.
What else do we have in the arsenal?
Oh, man.
I mean, no one's like specific,
but just like voices in general.
Like if I hear someone, I can kind of like mimic them.
Kyle, tell me about dream scenario.
What kind of movie is dream scenario?
Oh, okay.
dream scenario
is a masterpiece.
That was Gary Bucce.
That was Gary Bucce.
That was Gary Bucce. Oh, my God.
I'm done.
Nick Cage is like one of my favorite people.
Walk in, funny enough, another favorite of mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when Lamorin, his new show,
the Spider-Man Noir with Nick Cage,
I felt like he was almost more giddy to tell me he got
the project than he was.
Because he knows how much I love Nick Cage.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was equal parts excitement
One, because I'm like, holy shit.
I'm in this show with Nick Cage.
But the other half of my excitement
just as much was like, oh shit, Kyle's going to flip out.
He's been obsessed with Nick Cage.
He's been such a fan of his forever.
He'll post weekly photos of Nick Cage as like outfits.
Like on his Instagram.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I was, you know.
Yeah, he hasn't met him yet though.
No.
Wow.
Nick Cage is the one.
He's a man.
He's so cool. He's so cool.
He obviously he would, he's gotten shit over the years because sometimes he'll just probably do things to pay the bills.
Yes.
But every story I hear from those sets, even though it's like less exciting movies than, you know, something massive.
He takes it as serious as anything he's ever done.
Well, that's why he's so good.
Yeah.
That's why he's so good.
No days off, man.
No, no days.
He goes full cage every movie.
Full cage.
And, you know, like you said, sometimes the movie.
movies aren't as good as some of the other ones, but like, you can tell he gives a hundred
ten percent. His performances are. Yeah, he's always good. Like he's, no matter what, he's always good.
Dude, long legs. Like, jujitsu? Have you seen jujitsu? No, I haven't seen jujitsu.
Bro. Ben, have you seen jujitsu? No, but I've seen, no, but I've seen National Treasure and
holy smokes. That fucking movie, can you do a Nicholas Cage? Benjamin Franklin Gates.
What a character. Can you do Nicholas Cage saying, I'm going to steal the declaration of
independence. Yeah, I just love he was like, Riley, we're going to steal a declaration of
independence. And Riley's like, what are we doing? Jiu-Jitsu for your guys is fans. If you haven't
seen that one, it's unreal. Basically, in the future, going back to our alien talk, an alien
comes down to Earth like every, whatever, thousand years and challenges like our best
martial arts human. And Nick Cage is that guy.
So it's Nick Cage fighting an alien and the movie title, very creative, Jiu-Jitsu.
Go check that one out.
Wait, when did it come out?
This one came out, like, fairly recent.
Like within like five years, I'd say, yeah.
Oh, wow, I got to check that one out.
Yeah, classic.
On your podcast, we talked about the cold weather Western I did in Romania.
And I remember one of the stunt doubles, much like the film Jiu-Jitsu about Jiu-Jitsu.
He was like, you know, I'm a kick boxer.
They call me kick.
I was like, so literal.
Wait, you did a movie with John Claude Van Damme?
I wish.
Oh, man.
They call me kick.
Josh, did you call him kick?
Sure.
Josh, who's your favorite actor in movie?
We know Lamar and Denzel.
Like, what's, we know me, you know mine.
What's your favorite?
Wait, what is yours, Ben?
Because we don't know it.
Oh, my favorite movie of all time is Mrs. Dalfire
and everybody knows Robin Williams is my,
my favorite actor, period.
And we know Kyle's is Nick Cage and National Treasure.
So, Josh, you.
It's so hard.
I mean, like, I really like this movie searching for Bobby Fisher.
I'm really in the chest.
Ben just learned this about me.
I fuck with Ben Kingsley.
That might be the first time those words have ever been said like that.
But I fucks with Sir Ben Kingsley.
I love to Ben Carson.
Yeah, you do.
Billy Carson
So tell me about the
Are you allowed to talk about the new show you're doing
Or is it like...
Not too much.
It's set in the...
It's Spider-Noar.
So it's a noir.
You know what I mean?
It's I guess you could say
And what can I say?
Don't get in trouble.
Don't get in trouble.
Remember when Tom Holland
like ruined whatever Avengers movie
and then they just...
Yeah.
Yeah.
So no.
So I'm just, it's going to be great.
Nick Cage is in it.
But what is,
public is it's part of the
Marvel Sony
universe, right? Yes. Is
there beef on the streets? If you see
Kevin Feigey, are you not going to make eye
contact? Well, he doesn't follow me on social media
or anything. I think that's for a reason. You know what I mean?
He hates me. Wow. I would love
to be a part of both
universes, you know what I mean? But like
the jury's still out on whether they like me or not.
You know what I mean? So just
you know, again, I comment and stuff. He doesn't
respond. You know what I'm saying? It's all good.
Is this something that you're going to have
to get in like obviously you're already
in gorgeous shape but you know that
that superhero level of shape. Damn, Terry Cruz.
Okay. I'm saying. Creatine.
Shout out.
Ben, I wish you were here.
Ted is sliding up and John.
I wish Ben Carson was here too.
Give you a little mammogram.
Managram.
Josh, no, there's no.
Josh has big arms. Show him your arms.
You want to show him your arms.
You want to show him your arms.
I'm doing it.
Show us the pythons, brother.
But I have, I dislocated my arm as a kid and it never went back.
Look at this.
Sammy, make sure that it's, it's a game capture.
That'll upset you, right?
Wait, do it again?
Oh, my God.
Oh.
What in the forest gump's legs is happening?
Call poverty, y'all.
I was broke, y'all.
We didn't have it sure.
So I ain't got no joints.
My mom tried to sue the YMCA.
They settled.
Really?
Oh.
For 140 million.
140 grand.
And the yellow pages lawyer took 80.
person. Isn't that weird
how it works if you sue somebody, the lawyer gets all
the money? They get most of it.
They get three-fourths or something like that, right?
It's wild. That's so crazy to me.
Then you sue the lawyer.
That's why he eventually steals
from you. Yeah, Malpract. Yes.
Yes. So you live
with Lamorne, yes? Yes.
What's that like? I mean, he could be playing the long
murder game. We could be halfway to
murder. I mean, there is a conspiracy.
There is a conspiracy like.
You know what I mean?
Don't laugh at that, Ben.
It's a good joke.
There's like a conspiracy that happens in society.
It's like, you know what I mean?
Like when two people of the,
and everybody talks about it,
two people of different races live together
that one person is always trying to kill the other.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
God damn it, Josh, you stepped in right to,
right into a trope.
You bastard.
Yeah. Look at you.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So.
So, so yeah.
So, yeah.
If we were to have murder.
murdered each other would have already happened.
We're on year 12.
We're on year 12.
Right.
Yeah.
We would have already zodiaced each other.
But what is that?
What does the living relationship look like?
Are you guys in the kitchen in the mornings?
Is it cute?
Like, are you guys comparing egg recipes?
So, so, I'm a big breakfast guy.
I like eating breakfast.
Yeah.
And I could go with either way.
Well, you know, I might have like a protein shake or something.
But lately, you know, I just, we just moved into this house.
Right.
So it is beautiful kitchen and it's fantastic.
Love cooking.
Beautiful kitchen.
Love cooking.
My daughter, my daughter, I co-parent, so she's with me every other week.
So on weeks we're not, or if she's not there, it's like I can just,
meaning like I just wake up whenever, if I'm not working and like I might get a protein shake,
might not.
I might just grab a coffee, make a coffee and then leave and go do what I got to do.
But when she's here, it's very specific.
It's very, it's like she needs.
to eat. So I get up with her. We do our ritual, make breakfast, which is usually oatmeal. She just
loves oatmeal and she loves bacon. So oatmeal, bananas, bacon, and then we try to give her eggs,
but she says she doesn't like them unless her mommy cooks them. My son too. Yeah. Yeah. All into the
bacon, no eggs. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what that is. So, so we, so breakfast,
we're usually in the kitchen. So we double duty it. I work on her breakfast. Kyle works on the rest of
the breakfast and I'll make coffee.
And boom, boom, boom.
Yeah, and we've been pumping each other too, like,
doing, hitting the gym in the mornings.
What do you mean? What do you mean pumping each other?
Like, just getting pumped in the morning.
That's not how you phrase it.
Is that no?
Yeah, you pump, pump your bro.
Yeah, we pump your bro off.
Yeah.
That's not it.
That can't be it.
What are you talking about?
No, I.
You guys pump, right?
Constantly.
Yeah.
Okay.
But Josh and I jerk each other off.
That's what we do.
That's, okay.
That's different.
After the gym,
like jerk.
Like, that's what we do.
Oh, you guys turn your backhouse into a happy-backdoor.
We cook eggs and then jerk each other off.
That's what we do.
You cook eggs and then you fertilize them.
Hey.
Oh, my God.
I'm cutting all this out.
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Doing a little research before the pod, and I found something really interesting.
I would love to know what this year in your life look like.
Oh, gosh.
So on your IMDB in 2011, you have a, you did an episode of the middle.
Great show.
Yes.
You played salesman.
Yes.
In 2011, you started your titular.
Is that the word titular?
Am I saying it right, Sam?
I don't know.
You very much of a defining role as the great Winston Bishop and New Girl, 2011.
What the fuck did 2011 look like?
You went from the middle salesman to New Girl.
Well, the guest star, co-star, I would say,
world for me was very brief.
It was the only one I ever did.
And, you know, prior to that,
I was doing a bunch of commercials the year before.
So the year before, I'd worked for every brand you could name.
I think I did 50-something commercials in one year.
Wow.
Nationals?
Nationals, yeah.
And prior to that-
Dude, this guy was everywhere.
And prior to that, I was dead broke.
So, like, dead, dead, dead, dead broke.
And so once I started doing all these commercials,
I was just kind of moving like this.
And I had never gone through a pilot season.
And I didn't even have theatrical representation at the time.
So I wasn't auditioning for shows or movies at all.
I was just doing commercials.
And my agents at the time were very happy with that because I was the number one commercial dude out there.
That's unheard of.
It's crazy.
50 commercials in a year.
So then what ended up happening after that was Seth Yankowitz, one of the casting directors
for, who's had of casting at New Girl for New Girl.
Shout out Seth.
Shout out Seth.
he said that he was watching TV.
They were struggling to find to put together, you know, coach,
the character of coach, saw a Vegas commercial that I had running.
It was like, what's that, like, who's that guy?
Let's just bring him in too.
And just threw me a bone, reached out, you know, got me in there.
And right, so right before that, though, the middle was just like my only,
I remember auditioning for it.
It was my only co-star.
And then right after that was the same pilot season as everything else that was happening.
and I was just getting offers here and there for stuff,
but I was an unknown actor.
So nobody knew,
and no one was willing to take like an extra step for me.
I mean,
New Girl ended up taking 15 auditions total to get on the show.
Wow.
So it was like a real stretch.
Everyone was like, okay,
are we sure this is the guy?
Nobody knows who the fuck he is.
Like, are we sure this is the guy?
It was like, okay, let's have him read again.
Who do you think you were convincing most over those fit?
Like, who was unsure 14 times?
it might
honestly it had to have been
studio someone
someone on the studio level
because because
they were ready to rock and roll
essentially after they
because I had three auditions
for coach
then long story short
they
I was again
pilot season
so first I had
I got an offer on a show
called the assistants
with myself
David Henry
Sarah Wright
T.J Miller
yeah Heather Locklear
and so it was
this really dope
show and I took the offer.
But you know how it works.
You sign a contract at a test reading.
That means you're in first position for that show.
Right.
So I remember sitting at the new girl audition for the test
and getting the call before I signed the contract,
my agent saying, don't sign it, don't sign it.
CBS wants to make you an offer.
And it's more money than what new girl is offering.
And you don't have to go and test for it like you're about to go and do now.
It's just a straight offer.
Well.
And so I was like, well, shit, I got to take that.
And so I took it.
Seth was pretty pissed off.
Everyone hated me.
I saw Liz Murrayweather, Jake Kasden,
these people walk out of a room
and didn't acknowledge me or greet me whatsoever
while I was sitting now in the outside courtyard.
So it was brutal, man.
And then I ultimately ended up, like two hours later,
Fox called after they went and read everybody
and said, hey, if we make Lamor an offer now,
will he accept it?
And they were like, well, it's too late.
We were trying to get through the night before to make him an offer,
but you were like, who the fuck is he?
We were not going to make him an offer.
So you had already auditioned four-ish times at that?
Yeah, about three or four times, I want to say four times.
And isn't it, and I don't begrudge Liz, Maryweather and Jay Cousin and Seth for being disappointed
because I understandably so.
But like, we're the ones as actors who 99% of the time walk out, head down.
Yes.
Because they said, not you.
Yeah.
And like the one time
Yeah, somebody said not you.
That it's lining up well
because you know it's like that spark that moment
and you're like, come on guys.
Yeah, really?
Business.
It's the one time I'm getting two offers
at the same time.
That never happens.
Never happens.
And so it ultimately worked out
because they then got Damon to do it
which was an impossible thing to do
because he had another show,
happy endings,
which everyone thought wasn't going to get renewed
for another season.
So they figured,
oh,
if Damon's available,
great.
So they got Damon to play coach,
crushed it.
Happy endings gets picked up
for a second season
so he can't do New Girl anymore.
So they need another character
and they don't want to,
they don't want to reshoot
what Damon already shot
because it was,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It was gold.
So they wrote a new character in
for Winston.
And because,
I think the thing was,
because it was a new character
that Liz hadn't developed
over the years
she had been developing
the other characters,
they had to keep reading.
And they had to, I was, I was reading, I mean, everybody, like Bobby Leave was reading,
exhibit was reading, you name it.
They were like offer.
I think they made an offer to Tyrese or somebody at one point or Michael B. Jordan.
It was like all these different exhibit have been.
Oh, man.
Oh, I saw him an eight mile.
He was good in eight miles.
It's dope.
Welcome to pit my new girl.
Yo, Jess, get your ass out here.
You're going on a date.
Man, woohoo.
I'm a fuck his ass up.
I put a fish tank in your room
Oh my God
Because exhibit's a pretty dope actor
Comedically I don't know
I haven't seen them in any comedies though
Because New Girl they improvise
That was my saving grace
You know I'm not fresh out of second city at that point
But like I was still on stages
Performing improv
Right and sketched so when it came to the audition
That's the one thing that I would say saved me
Was my ability to just say fuck it
And just make shit up
because I thought, oh, they want exhibit.
He's way more known than I am.
Okay, so he wins.
At one point, they wanted Justin Hires, who's a dope actor.
Justin Hires is charismatic and he's good looking and he's funny and he's all those things.
But I was like, okay, I'm not going to beat him in some of those elements.
I'm just going to improvise.
And so it's like, oh, they want this person.
I go, great.
I'm just going to improvise.
So I don't know how I'm going to win this role,
but I'm just going to do the one thing that I know I know how to do very well and probably
better than others in some point at some point.
And that's what got me the job.
What do you think was, as you said, right, up into that year and a half before you're broke, right?
And then you spend a year booking 50 commercials, which is so unheard of.
And then the next six months, you book just a game-changing co-star in the middle.
And then the-win- When you weren't Malcolm in the middle?
No, the middle.
Would you look at a spin-off in the middle?
Was it?
No, it was just called The Middle.
I love Malcolm in the middle.
The same, uh, loved.
Yeah.
That's a good show.
Great show.
Shout up Frankie Nunes.
But what do you like, and then you're getting an offer on the assistance and then the new girl happens.
Like, what do you think was happening with you over that year and a half?
What were you doing that clearly your spark was showing?
Your special sauce.
Honestly, I feel like it might have just been a breath of fresh air for casting directors for someone.
that they have never seen before,
but is performing at a level of people
that they are used to seeing, maybe.
Yeah.
So it wasn't like I was a new actor.
I had just gone away from it for a while.
I, you know, I came up, like I said,
at Second City, Chicago.
I was doing improv,
but then I left acting to go be a TV host
for three years at BET.
So I moved to New York.
Wow.
And I kind of disappeared for a little bit,
but from the acting side.
But, you know,
the black community still knew who I was,
those who watched BET.
So I had a little bit of a fan base
and a little bit of a following.
So people still vouched for me.
Like, all that dude's funny
because my shows were comedic.
You know, and then once I guess,
once I showed up, people were like,
we've never seen this dude before
and his auditions are good.
Like, who is he?
And then, you know, I guess word travels around.
And also, a lot of the cats that were,
that had been out here for so long
had gone through the mill already.
So everyone knew of them.
Like they were already,
there were cats like that were kind of like fresh faces at the time,
like me and Eric Andre.
Like all my auditions were with Eric.
So either he would book it,
I would book it,
you know what I mean?
Like I would see him at every audition
and we're still buddies till his day.
But it was like Eric was like a breath of fresh air.
You know what I mean?
Eric came in being Eric doing what he liked to do,
as opposed to trying to fit.
what the script called for.
Right.
I remember the reason why,
I'm sorry to be long-winded about it,
but the reason why I remember,
the reason why I feel like it worked,
I remember an audition for a Miller-Light commercial.
This was like the first,
kind of one of the first big ones that I booked,
and I was so desperate.
I didn't have a car,
my car had been rebowed,
that was borrowing a friend's car,
and she was late for dropping me off.
So she was late to come pick me up
and then take me to the audition or whatever.
Shout out to Stephanie, Stephanie Sexton.
And we drove her, Stefan, Sexton.
Cool. That's cool.
Even dopeer musician.
She ended up driving me in her Red Ford Focus, but we were late.
And so I'm sweating. It's hot all the way to Santa Monica from North Hollywood.
And I get there and they're like, no more, did you read the sides?
And I like, yeah, yeah, I did.
I hadn't read them.
And so I get in the room and I went, it's like, fuck.
But in those rooms, they had the lines behind the camera a little bit.
So you can kind of get a glimpse of what it is.
So I'm trying to be present with the scene partner,
and I'm also trying to read the lines because I don't know what the script is.
And so I just started making shit up.
I just started improvising so much that the casting director,
the casting director was kind of looking at me sideways, but laughing.
But the guy over Skype, the director, was dying laughing.
And he booked me on the spot.
Wow.
And literally sent home.
Did you cry?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
You did.
that commercial and the Nugro and then the Emmy nomination.
What the three times that I've cried because of work.
I'm going to cry.
Kyle,
you cry?
No,
when's the last time I cry?
I cried watching that movie.
My dog Skip.
Shout out to Frankie Munis.
I cried during that movie.
That movie fucking so sad, man.
You've seen that movie?
I have.
That is a sad movie,
not as sad as the whale,
but sad.
The whale again.
Dude,
have you seen it?
Have you seen the whale?
I haven't seen it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen it.
I have been finding myself as I've gone getting older every year,
like getting a little more emotional.
Like sometimes a video will pop up on IG or something.
And like, I'm like, am I about to cry watching this shit?
Like, what is happening?
So yeah, I don't know.
Maybe in my age, I'm crying more.
I feel like you cry when Tom Brady,
like you'll go to your room if like your soccer team loses
or if Tom Brady loses.
I feel like you go to your room shut the door and cry.
It was a sad day when Tom Brady retired.
I was sad that day.
I'm going to cry when LeBron James retires.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That'll be the fourth time I cry.
No mention of your child's birth.
Ben, what do you cry over?
What sports star would you cry over?
I mean, when Kobe died, I cried for like a week.
Like, that was like, oh, yeah, yeah.
That was, like, the worst thing ever.
And it, like, hit, like, a ton of bricks.
So, any, any, like, tragedy like that,
And then I'm a diehard Nick fan
since birth. You know that, Josh.
So, like, honestly, this season,
like, they didn't give me anything to cry over,
but, like, they could have.
They were so close.
Like, the Knicks are so good.
Everyone got hurt.
I know.
Everyone died on the team.
It's crazy.
They did.
They did.
But this year, we feel really good.
We got Bridges.
I feel like we're going to the Eastern Conference Finals.
And I'm going to cry.
I'm going to cry if we somehow make it that far.
I love Bridges.
He ain't setting you over the top.
I think that chemistry, I'm so happy we're talking about sports.
I think that chemistry, I think chemistry alone gets you further than maybe somebody more impressive than Bridges.
And I think the fact that these guys are all ready to take pay cuts, they've all played together for so long.
They're so happy to be teammates.
Like, I think, I think you didn't need a superstar.
You needed a great two-way player.
That's what Bridges is.
and I think Brunson is once in a generation.
Like the guy is so good.
And it finally lets Randall kind of take a slight backseat.
Not that I don't like it.
I think he's good.
But like Randall's not the two.
Like the two is Bridges or the two is OG or the two.
Like it's nice that we don't know yet.
That's what a great team is in my opinion when you don't know.
Mitchell Robinson.
Is he on the Knicks?
He's on the Knicks.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's our son.
I watched this video of him the other day going like playing like pickup or something.
I had no idea his bag was like that.
Yeah.
This dude was doing sham gods.
He's stepping back.
I was like, I was like, wait, if they just let him do that.
Yeah.
This is a whole different team.
Yeah.
If they just unleash Mitchell Robinson, that dude.
I saw that.
I saw that video.
He looked like Wendy.
What's your team?
Are you a Bulls fan?
I'm a Bulls fan, but I'm a Lakers.
I'm a, well, here's the thing.
I'm a player first guy.
Okay.
So, I'm LeBron first.
So if LeBron plays for the Bucks tomorrow, I'm wearing a Bucks jersey.
Understood.
If LeBron plays with the Knicks, I'm moving to New York.
Kyle, what about you?
And that's saying a lot because I hate New York.
I also like the Knicks.
With a passion.
Who hates New York?
Me.
You hate the city?
I hate the chaos of it.
I love the people.
I love the people in New York.
I just hate the geography of it all.
It's so like...
I'll talk about to say something else there.
You got caught up on the J.G.
The gym?
Yeah.
Oh, I hate the Jews in New York.
Is that what you're saying?
We want to thank you guys for being on the good guys' podcast.
Oh, man.
It's so fun.
Don't worry,
man.
I'll alert the group chat.
So we have one,
we have one segment left and it's our,
what are you nuts moment,
which is your gripes with people,
places and things.
So anything bigger,
small,
that's sticking in your craw,
anything you're annoyed by,
we'll go first.
So you guys will have a moment to think about it.
But before we get to that,
so you have even more time.
Yeah.
Real quick, we'll do, we get these things called speak pipe from our listeners.
They leave us like a voicemail.
Ask for advice.
If you want to leave us to speakpipe, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys.
Keep it brief.
Brevity's key.
And let's hear from, oh, this one's going to be good.
I know it's going to be good.
Let's hear from Natalie.
Hello, good guys.
My name's Natalie.
I'll keep this brief.
So I'm calling because I'm expecting my second child, which has been a huge blessing.
And my mother-in-law just called me saying that she's going to try and organize her schedule so she can be here for the birth.
Am I a horrible daughter-in-law for not wanting that to happen?
I want your advice on keeping me real.
Little backstory, basically any time my husband is around her, I feel like I'm playing middleman.
And that's the last thing I want to deal with postpartum.
So looking for your advice and maybe if you agree with me, how do I let her down gently?
All right. Thanks. Five.
Wow. No, that's what she signed up for.
When you decided to pop a baby out with a man with a mama.
Yep.
She's going to show up.
She's going to be grandmama.
Yeah.
And sometimes she might be annoying.
Not always.
Yeah.
But that's what you sign up for.
You know what I mean?
It's mixing personalities.
When you have a baby, you're not just taking on, you're taking on that other person's family as well.
You know what I mean?
And so you have to be prepared for that.
So you should feel bad because you should.
She should be coming.
I don't like that she had to like organize the schedule to get there.
It should just be, I'm coming.
You know what I mean?
So I could see that might be part of the problem she has with mother-in-law.
You know what I'm interesting.
Young Kyle?
Yeah, see, here's the thing.
I'm going to flip the scenario.
Like say us guys shot babies out of our dicks, right?
Nope.
And like, technically do.
I wouldn't want my wife's mother to be there looking at a baby coming out of my weiner.
So I get where she's saying we're like, hey, show up at the hospital, but I don't need you in the room.
You can come after.
I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with setting a parameter.
But again, I've never had a kid, so I don't know.
Young Ben, I think I agree with Kyle.
Like, if I'm the woman in this situation, I don't need my mother-in-law staring at my pussy.
Like, I just, I don't need it.
I don't need it.
That's the thing.
She's like, she wants to be in the room.
Is that what, was that what I heard, right?
Or did I hear it wrong?
I don't think that. I don't think she was clear.
She just said showing up. She was going to come for the birth.
Doesn't mean she's going to be in there watching.
Got it.
Okay.
So then maybe I don't agree with Kyle.
I agree with Kyle when I thought it was that.
It's tight.
It's tough.
Look, you need to respect her.
Of course,
boundaries are important,
but respect is equally important.
It's a tough call.
It's a tough call.
Yeah.
You guys are all wrong.
Oh, shit.
Enlighten us, please.
Time for the husband to step.
the fuck up.
Sounds like he's a little bit of a soft boy.
A little soft body karate.
So true.
Clearly, I mean, she said on the call, right?
She's running interference.
So for moms and for mother-in-law and the son.
Yeah, that's a 15-yard penalty.
Your wife is having your baby.
This is the answer.
Whatever you want.
Whatever you want.
And then it's his job to frame it with his mother in a way that makes her the least,
hurt and you
make a plan with your wife you go
how about she comes the day
after? Yeah. Or
is there a way to have her here
but she's at the house waiting
or she's somewhere where you're
and if you're not then maybe it's
is it when you leave the hospital then she
comes right? Like you gotta
make your wife comfortable
first. Well I
agree to a certain degree
oh you knew who you laid
down with. And you knew his mom
daddy, mommy daddy, daughter, whatever, mommy,
mommy son, relationship.
She knew the dynamic already.
Worried up.
So she was like, I'm still going to pop a baby out of my butt for you.
A second one.
A second one.
So you knew what time it was the first time.
And you were like, second time, you're expecting grownups to behave differently.
People do change sometimes.
It's hard to get people out of their habits.
His mom, his relationship with his mother has been there since he was born.
Yeah.
So that's, that's decades.
of whatever you got to und that you're expecting him to undo just because you're having a child.
Right.
This is true.
So yes, to a certain degree he does have to step up.
But also she has to understand that's just life.
That's what families do.
Everything ain't going to be rosy just because you're having a baby.
It's still going to hurt, ain't it?
It's still going to hurt.
That's part of it.
If we could alleviate the pain, we would.
Some people take drugs.
Some people don't.
But that's a part of it.
mother-in-law showing up, being a pain in the ass.
That's part of it.
I just know that I robbed the hospital blind when I had kids.
Oh, please.
I was like taking ointments, diapers, beds, machines.
EKG shit.
He's got a full-on medical staff in his basement all working for free.
My big brother was like, you robbed that place fucking blind kid.
He's like, your insurance is paying for all of it.
He's like, they got those good swaddles.
I'm not a bad idea.
Next time I go to the hospital, I'm going in them drawers.
Okay, here's my Woody and Nuts for the week.
And then Ben, you can go, my Woody and Nuts is people who say things like this.
I think I might just like go hang out in Portugal for a bit.
What are you nuts?
Don't talk like that.
You're not going to go hang out in the country.
Either book it and go, but don't like be nonchal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
About expensive fancy things.
It's like going to hang out in Lisbon.
And like, you still suck.
So, what are you nuts?
What are you nuts?
My what are you nuts?
My what are you nuts is, I think we've reached a strange time on with censorship on these platforms.
TikTok seems to be in a weird spot a little bit, I think at this point, over censored,
where you'll say something.
It's taken down Instagram on the other hand.
I'm scrolling in public the other day.
All of a sudden, I see a big breasted woman whip out her whole breasts.
and you see the breast, the nipple,
and then she attaches the baby's head to her breast.
And I was looking at,
I was looking at recipe content,
maybe learning how to make a faccaccia
or a chicken parmesan.
And all of a sudden I see this like triple D
milky breast just like feeding this young boy.
And it's like, what are you nuts?
Like what are you nuts?
Get this off my feed.
Like imagine if my mom was looking over my shoulder.
And she's like, what kind of fetish do you have?
Yeah.
Like milky boy?
Like, no.
What are you nuts?
Yeah, I've seen that feed too, Ben.
Yeah, I love to that feed.
Sometimes you know what's crazy about that feed, though, is Ben, that those babies, they're fake babies.
They're using, like, dolls.
Yeah.
They just want to show their breasts.
And then they're linked to their only fans in the description.
Literally in the bio.
Wow.
Oh, word?
Yeah, that's the hack.
I've never clicked through.
Wow.
This country is going down.
It's a breastfeeding hack.
It's bad.
What's your, what are you nuts?
My what are you're nuts is those people that they try to get off the plane like too early.
And then they're just standing next to you.
It's like, dude, what are you doing?
We're not going anywhere for another 30 minutes.
And then they look down at me like, I'm nuts.
And I'm like, no, what are you nuts?
And then, yeah, I hate those people.
Airplanes in general.
Airplanes are what are not successful for just nutsness.
My waddy and nuts are the people who get so caught up in politics that they forget that we as human beings have a relationship with each other.
We all have a connection.
I think this day and age, and I don't want to speak on politics, I don't want to get myself in trouble.
But outside of politics, I think we're, I think we are too distant from each other.
Like if we understood how much we all have in common,
we wouldn't be arguing about BS.
We just wouldn't.
You know, the old racist man in the South hates the black dude over here.
He never met him.
But the news is probably telling you that this guy behaves this way.
And the news is telling me that the old racist man is racist.
Well, maybe he's not racist.
Maybe I should have a conversation with this old man.
What's your gripe with me?
We don't know that because we're too busy reading into politics.
And what this outlet is telling you.
to believe or with that outlet's telling you to believe.
And we spend far less time communicating with each other to realize we all want the same
shit.
We all just want to hang out and kick it.
We all just,
we all just want to go to Portugal.
We all just want to watch LeBron James play basketball, you guys.
That's all we want to do.
And then we start bickering and fighting.
And there's,
it's just so much chaos and confusion in this world.
So sometimes I want to look at people and go,
what are you nuts?
Yeah.
I don't care what.
political party you're in.
I don't care.
You know, take care of your family.
And I'll help you.
And you help me.
And that's what we're supposed to do.
This world used to be a big village.
Can we hear Denzel say,
what are you nuts really quick?
What are you nuts?
If I'm a police officer and I find
a pound of cocaine on the street,
I'm not turning it in.
And what are you nuts?
On this salary?
You're out of your damn mind, sonka.
I'm going to take that.
I'm going to flip that.
I'm going to put that on the street.
Put that in my pocket.
Go by my side.
So for new Corvette.
Yeah, I like the new Corvettes.
Yeah, they look foreign.
But made here 100% in the United States.
I guarantee that.
I stand by that.
Wow.
Wow.
I think they missed that line.
So good.
So good.
Perfect.
So good.
So what a talent.
Well, Ben, take us out.
Talk about the Podswap.
Guys, this was an absolute pleasure.
You have to head over to LaMourning after and watch the episode that we just did with
LaMourning, Kyle.
We had the best time.
we spoke about completely different stuff, which was great.
And so both episodes are awesome and highly recommend listening to their pod.
And guys, before we wrap, anything else you want to plug besides the morning after?
Ooh, you know, just make sure you tune in to the Emmys.
Hopefully I win.
Yes, let's go.
And if I don't win, tune in to see what kind of weird faces I make.
Yeah, that might cause a scene.
And then, you know, SNL movie, Saturday night.
Saturday night comes out October 11th.
So please set your calendars.
And it's a great film directed by Jason Reitman.
What a hell of a cast.
So make sure you check that out.
Yeah.
We've been doing more stand-up recently, which has been really fun.
So look out for whenever we do a show next.
Nice.
And, yeah, listening to the morning after.
And that'd be awesome.
Love it.
It was so fun, guys.
Seriously, thank you for having us on.
Thank you, Kyle.
And folks, this episode, as always, five stars.
If not, what are you nuts?
Don't leave us a two-star review.
Leave us five stars.
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Thanks so much.
Yeah.
Oh, Ben, I forgot to ask you, have you seen the movie The Whale?
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