Good Guys - Saudi Guys

Episode Date: December 5, 2022

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm Josh Peck and I'm Ben Safer and we're the good guys. There's a lot of guys out there and we're the good ones. Welcome back to the good guys. Josh, how are you? Benjamin, I'm so happy to be here. God bless. I saw you at Madison Square Garden last night. Were you on the wood, as they say? No, and I only want to talk very positively about the Knicks. My experience was wonderful. Did they give me wood? No, they did.

not and I got to be honest with you. Let's be honest, you gotta be very, very careful with what you say about the NICS organization. I know, look, the problem is they don't value social media as much as they do, even low-grade television. If you were on one TV show for a split second, like literally like a cameo, you get wood. Easily. It's so easy. in front, they're like Celebrity Row, the janitor from Big Bang Three.

One, literally one second you could get on Celebrity Row. Us, nope, we can't do it. What a joke. Beautiful seats, beautiful seats. So they call it Celebrity Row, huh? Oh, yeah. And yeah, you're right, because if you were on like one episode of NCIS Scottsdale or CSI Boka, you're getting to sit next to Ben Siller.

And it's ridiculous. The hierarchy I heard through my. Michael Rappaport that if you do anything, if you say one thing against your organization, you're banished from the wood. You'll never feel the wood again. That would make sense. But I have only wonderful things to say about the wonderful organization. And honestly, they brought me in. They treated me like gold. They treated Sprit Society like gold. They put, I don't know if you saw, I was on MSGPM. They gave us tickets to the game, had a wonderful post-game segment where we shot the shit,

spoke about New York, spoke about the Knicks, spoke about Spritz, and we even got the chance to speak about de Blasio. They really did their homework. Wow. And she brought up rats in the city, and all of a sudden I hear the word rat, I think, de Blasio. And it was great, but the Knicks are great. And I did make sure to mention to them that if there's ever a rainy day

in the middle of the winter, and they just can't get rid of two wood seats. I'm there. Call me any time I'll take wood. I thought you were going to say if there's ever a rainy day in the winter and 90% of the team gets in a bus accident and they need a Jewish man to play power forward that you would say...

Do you think if they gave you 15 seconds of playing time that you could at least kind of look like maybe you're supposed to be there? For as much of... I really do value my basketball skills. I'm a wonderful, wonderful shooter, which what Jew isn't a wonderful three-point shooter? It's just like a part of our DNA.

Really a great shooter. The problem is my endurance is just so low. I just... I don't think that I could look the part for even one second, unfortunately. Just too slow. If I was a little bit quicker, I think so. Did you play any basketball? I feel like you're not a sports...

You're not a sports player. No, I'm awful. I mean, I'm good at boxing. The thing is, is because I've come into my own physically into my 30s, all these people that were great in high school are now big fat bastards and they're no good anymore, like kids I went to high school with. And so I love that cardio-wise, I can keep up. You put me in an F-45 class, Pilates, you know, hot yoga.

I'm there all day. But anything remotely athletic, I get smoked. Do you go to Orange Theory? I had never heard of Orange Theory. Claudia and I went to Brian's house over the weekend. Brian Kelly, shout out, wonderful, wonderful human. He went to Orange Theory like 15 times. The man is addicted to Orange Theory.

I've never been, but it seems it's got to be fantastic. Yeah, all these things work. Orange Theory is like it's a mix of weights and cardio and they monitor your heart while you're doing it. my biggest issue is I hate people. So I got to see these people who are probably kind of an occult, right? Because they get so into it, like, you know, shout out Brian. And I don't want to schmooze. I don't want to peruse.

I just want to get my workout in and leave. No, no. Yeah, I just, I don't even want to get in my workout. I just, I can't. It's just not for me. It really isn't. I've tried the personal trainers. I've tried the spin class once.

The whole idea of sitting on that terribly uncomfortable chair is just... What's the point? What is the point? Human beings weren't invented to ride stationary bikes. If anything, get out in the real world. Bike, go to Central Park and joy. But to sit and spin in this weird... You said it perfectly.

Cult. You're listening to music. You feel like you're in some weird... discotheque, European trance, biking, biking, biking. It's too much for me. Listen, I feel as though people have completely infantilized themselves with this. I'm a Disney adult. I go, I'm going back to summer camp, I'm on a kickball league. Grow up. Do your taxes and eat enough fiber and realize that your childhood is over. And for someone like me, that's for the best, because I didn't like mine. Have you seen this Disney, this trend on TikTok where people are looking at Disney characters and doing Smash or Pass?

Have you seen that? No. It's disgusting. People are sick. It's literally like a, you have Ursula, you have Hercules, you have, it's like, these are fictional cartoons. And it's a Smash or Pass. It's crazy. That being said, Ursula, if she was single. Oh, my God. The original big beautiful woman.

It's a whole lot of woman. You're telling it thick with many seas. You know, speaking of your version of working out and the popularity of this new weight loss drug in Hollywood and everywhere else called Ozembek, aka Wagovi. Have you heard of this? I have. I feel like you brought it up a couple episodes ago. It's taken over. My friends, you know who they are.

They just started taking it. And they're like, you know, they're not overweight. They maybe had like 20, 30 pounds to lose at most. But they're like, basically, what's terrifying is from what they tell me, you get this sort of download from the doctor before you go on it, before you take a needle to the stomach. Where he's like, here are a couple possible side effects. You could bleed from your eyes. No, I'm kidding. But like, it's like I just, I guess I take for.

granted the fact that I was lucky enough to be able to, you know, lose a good amount of weight naturally and that, you know, everyone has their own journey. And yet, I don't know, the whole needle in the belly thing kind of scares me, but what am I going to not listen to Elon Musk? He hasn't let us wrong yet. He hasn't. And by the way, everybody called Elon crazy. Apparently Twitter's productivity, the same as where it was with 80% more of a workforce. I'm just saying It seems like the people at Twitter weren't working that hard, and perhaps he just didn't need that many people, and the reason the company couldn't make any money

was because they were spending all their money on people who weren't doing anything. So I trust Elon. That's the moral of my story. What's your take on the Twitter experience? Because I have found over the last month, it's just not as cute. It's just not sexy.

It's not cute. I hate Twitter. I've always hated Twitter, though. So like, I like, fuck Twitter. I root for the demise of Twitter. You're following on Twitter. It's bigger on Instagram. It's bigger on TikTok.

If Twitter went away, we're fine, right? Like, it's not, you're not monetizing your Twitter. Are you monetizing your Twitter? Once or twice a year, I'll do a brand campaign and they'll throw a tweet in there. And I want to say, for what? What are you nuts? Just burn it. Burn the money on camera and it'll go viral because it's a stunt.

It'll do better. than if you just give me that money to write some, you know, ridiculous sentence. That's pretty genius, by the way. Thank you. Burning money. I think it's illegal. I hope the FBI isn't listening. I was going to say, yeah, it's very illegal.

Actually, the Secret Service are the ones in charge of counterfeiting and anything that has to do with the Treasury or financial institutions of America. Or currency, I should say. Speaking of currency, I don't know if you know, have you seen this Christiano, Ronaldo? Are you a soccer fan? I am. Okay, I'm not a soccer fan, but I'm a fan of money and big deals.

This, apparently Cristiano Ronaldo, oh, he just, he agreed. I thought it was just offered $200 million a year to play for Saudi Arabia. No. Yes, 200 million a year. So what's payday like? Is it, you know, every two weeks like normal people? I honestly it probably is is it like 8 million every two weeks

200 million divided by what is that 26 pay periods that's 8 million dollars a pay period and you know the Saudis aren't paying taxes that's straight cash

that's on I would ask I would say listen I'll agree But I'm going to need a million of it in cash delivered to me in Louis Vuitton luggage every two weeks. Like, I'll need a bit of, let's make a show of it. I'm 100% in. I'm in. The Saudis really this year just decided that they want to spend all their money on sports. I know we've spoken about live golf before, but they stole half of the PGA tour, paid them absurd amounts of money.

now they're doing the same thing with soccer players they just have more money than I think anybody realizes and they're just spending their cash on things that they like to do I don't blame I look I'll I'll take their money I'm just letting everybody know if the Saudis want to sponsor this podcast done it's yours oh my god are you kidding me that's a no-brainer we'll change our name to the good guys of Saudi Arabia

I'm in the real house husbands of Saudi Arabia. Oh, my God. It's funny. Yeah, it would be, it would be outstanding. You know, speaking of, speaking of Saudi Arabia, I have no transition. Can we do our what are you nuts moment because I'm living, Ben. I'm livid.

Yes, please go. I mean, are you watching this, this cook Kanye literally on Alex Jones in fours today? Like, he's. Yes. You know, Hugh was the thing. And I also have a less sort of explosive, what are you in that's moment. He went from, it's such a playbook. It's the least original thing that Kanye has ever done is hating the Jews.

For a guy who's pretty damn original. This is about as trite and corny and recycled as we've ever seen. And these were the guys. You know, I used to go to work at 1515. Broadway because that's where Nickelodeon was when I was a kid and I would go audition there and I would have jobs there and train the heart of Times Square. And there were guys on the corner in clothes that looked like they hadn't been dry cleaned in years who would spout this same wild ass shit that he's talking.

And you know what people did? They walked by because they were like, it's just a couple crazies in Times Square doing what crazies do. And you know what the next step to crazy is? It's I am the Messiah. I am a messenger of God and Jesus. He is following the crazy playbook. And so the final step is for this guy is like enough. Like we just disregard him as we would disregard a babbling dude on the street. Like I just, what I take most issue with is this whole idea of I'm being signed. I'm being muted. I don't have my right. You know what? Here's the reality. And then I'm going to stop being so serious. When people say that, what they're really trying to say is I want to be able to say what I think without consequence.

You can say what you think. You're not going to jail. You know what I'm saying? Like this is America. You can be as hateful or as ridiculous as you want to be and you don't have to worry about the government coming after you for it. But if businesses and people don't want to work with you once they learn your true feelings, well, then that's the beauty of capitalism and private business. Ben, I'm going to get off my high horse. I feel like I've gone too far. You haven't gone too far. I'm happy that you brought it up. I mean, the guy is, it's going to be a dark thing for me to say, but it does seem like a guy

that's on the verge of ending his own life. Like, he's just, he's gone completely off the rails. and no longer has any moral compass and is going to the depths of the earth to say that he's a fan of Adolf Hitler for attention. Like, it's just, it seems like the last chapter, which would be very sad. But, yeah, I mean, what are you nuts? What are you nuts? You said that you had another one that was a little bit less cryptic.

My other one is, today, I'm taking my son to school. And he's kind of, you know, he's in a little bit of a mood. He's a perfect boy. But, you know, listen, he takes after his father and his moods can change with the way the wind works. So anyway, I take him to this gas station before because I go, I know what's going to cheer him up.

I'm going to get him a fountain beverage. You know what that means? In my house, that means it's going to be three quarters water, one quarter gatorade from the fountain stream at our local AMPN. Okay. So I go get him a beverage. He's very excited.

And he's being adorable, right? This is totally turned the day around. I go, look at me, you know, what great parenting. A slightly sugary beverage and it's already paying dividends. This woman looks at me, she looks at Max being adorable. She's like, oh, he's so cute. I said, thank you so much. I'm so very lucky.

And then she goes, oh, oh, are you calling me a liar? which as everyone knows, is my catchphrase from the somewhat watch show. I guess people like, Drake and Josh. Now, this show, people love it. They love to quote it, and I'm fine with that. But I'm not going to give you the catchphrase 90% of the time, unless you're a make-a-wish kid. I just can't do it.

So I go, and maybe I'm not the best for this, I go, sorry? I go, excuse me? She goes, oh, are you Josh from Drake and Josh? I go, oh, yes, hi, nice to meet you. She goes, I'm not, are you calling me a liar? I go, oh, okay. She goes, no, no, I'm doing the line from this. She proceeds to explain to me as though it's the first time I'm hearing it.

You seem to be misunderstanding. Maybe you're too invested in your son's Gatorade better. I'm doing the lines from your show and now you were to say it back to me and I just said I went oh okay very cool into which she goes guess it's a little too early for you and I look at her and said I guess so oh my god what are you nuts that's what are you nuts and just like the cringe oh boy to just keep doubling down and tripling down wow that's terrible guys everyone's talking talking about CBD, you can't get away from it. It's almost annoying, but you know what it's not, because it works. That's why everyone's talking about CBD, but what do you know that's high

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My what are you nuts, I kind of gave away with the Saudis already, but I'll repeat myself. It's this high horse moral compass. I've said that a couple of times this episode. Moral Compass. I've said that a couple of times this episode. Moral Compass, I guess that's my new phrase of the week, where people are going on their Twitters, and they're talking about how can you take money from the Saudis? How can you do it? It's like, hello? How can the NBA make all their jerseys in China?

Or how can we, the entire world, everybody, takes money from people that technically we shouldn't take money from. All money is dirty. I'm here to tell you, all money is dirty. And I mentioned it in just before, that if the Saudis wanted to give us money, We take it. Money is green, my friend. That's what I have to say. So to the people on Twitter that are all up, Rinaldo, I can't believe you'd take $200 million a year. Really? You can't believe he'd take $200 million a year to play soccer?

What are you nuts? Of course you'd take $200 million to play soccer. The same way to Phil Mickelson, who basically has one leg at this point, is going to take $130 million a year to play golf. Why not? It's fantastic. If I don't have it and they don't have it, The Saudis have it. By the way, it's actually the best way to get money out of the hands of the Saudis is to take their money so that they can't use it on fucked up shit. So I'm here to tell you that if you take money from the Saudis, you are a humanitarian. Us having this podcast solely sponsored by Saudi Arabia might be the most generous thing we ever do, Ben. It's the generosity that I just, I think it makes us wonderful people. I think we should honestly go and pitch it. We should go pitch it.

I'm in. I think you're right because that also leads to the story from last week where Alyssa Milano tweeted that she no longer was going to have a Tesla and she was inferring it's because of Elon Musk's duplicitous nature and said, I've switched to the Volkswagen hybrid. I've never been happier. To which people said, are you aware of Volkswagen's origins? What'd you say? Nothing, because that's why, to your point, Ben, which you so wonderfully put, you can't own people.

And as soon as you try to take that virtuous route, like, you're right. All money is dirty and all roads lead back to something you don't agree with. Oh my God. That is hysterical. Yeah. So true. And it's also just like, yeah, Elon Musk's. Like, I don't even know what he did.

What did he do? Sorry, I have something in my throat. I'm sure the listeners are going to love that. Every time I breathe, we get a comment, Why, it's been breathing so loud. What am I supposed to do? Now I cough, I'm sure it's over for me. It's over.

They're going to try to replace me. I can see the reviews now for this week's going to be, those Flemmy Jews sure do love money. Amazing. But like, you tell me, what did Elon must do? What do he do? Look, I think the nature is he's, a wild kid, he wants to be liked, we're not used to someone so powerful and so rich acting

like a high schooler sometimes. And I think we just can't reconcile this idea that he's this rich and powerful and not a politician as well, which we expect out of our elite. I guess that for me I just can't understand why if somebody is arrogant and if somebody has a lot of lot of money and loves talking about it, that all of a sudden you want to boycott their car company? It's just such like a weird thing for me. Like if you go, you have a Chinese restaurant that you love ordering from. The delivery guy comes. He's incredibly rude. You're probably going to order the Chinese food again, right?

Like, it's not like a, it's kind of a separate the artist from the art in some ways. I just never understood it. Like, he's not a bad person. they're acting like he like kills people like he's just a rich guy that's arrogant that is very public with everything that he's doing he certainly has an agenda but i don't know there are plenty of other to your point there are plenty of other people to boycott before you boycott Elon Musk and Tesla because of their values like we found out through this entire process of uh was it was it Kanye with adidas where adidas was started by Nazis yeah

Because Puma was also started by Nazis. And Volkswagen, they're all the Nazis, Mercedes, Mercedes. It seems like there's a lot of Nazism because we clearly like things that were created in Germany in the early 1900s. Right? Right. Yeah, I don't know. I think Beamer might have just made the engines for the planes during the Blitzkrieg. So, I mean, you know, if you want to draw a connection there.

No big deal. I, um, no, I think you're right. And I think that, look, I'll give you an example. I remember when I was doing Turner and Hooch, just saying one season, incredible season. You know, we're dealing with these five dogs. They're my co-stars, because the truth is, as we all know, I'm better as a duo. And, uh, the dogs were fabulous. But the, but some, basically,

someone who was in charge of the dogs was challenging. Let's just, let's just call it that. Okay, a little challenging. And we were constantly working around because of course we always wanted to put whatever the needs were before anything else of this person and whatnot. Basically it came down to there were times

where the people, my bosses, there were two times I remember where they like kind of lost it. And they were like, this is crazy. We cannot make a show under these, you know, like we've gone over these things a hundred times. And for some reason, like, there was no preparation for this or this was not, you know, thought out. And it just turned into this thing. And it was kind of what we were all thinking.

And yet when they would really bring this person to task, I would think, I wish he hadn't done it like that. Like I think outbursts and I think when people are arrogant and I think, when people like, you know, dunk on people or show off. I think it makes the tribe feel unsafe. We want a stoic. We want a quiet Alphidavidus. We all want Kevin Costner to be driving the bus. And I guess to that point, Elon Musk is not somebody that was elected to drive our bus.

He's just a rich person with a large following, who's done cool things. But like in the end of the day, he doesn't have that same responsibility because he wasn't voted. You know what I mean? He's not a president. He's not a politician at all.

You mentioned that earlier. So that's why it's actually very interesting. He does feel that way for some reason. I don't work at Twitter. I'm not, like, I'm not an employee of his. That's very interesting, though, because I kind of feel like we all are employees of his. Yeah, it's weird.

And, you know, there is a part of that, like, to what you just said, is there a time where you get rich or powerful enough? Because the truth is, he might not be an elected, you know, servant. But when he does big outbursts, when he makes decisions, it moves markets. It can affect, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, right? So it's like, it's almost as though he were a politician. So, like, at what point are you, do you have to step up? Or do you never? I think he's just, now I'm starting to think of it a little bit different.

Back to the Saudis. The Saudis can single-handedly change markets. They can stop selling oil. They can change, but I'm sure that there are protections in place for things like this. But Elon Musk is now so powerful and so rich and so public that he kind of is like his own little nation. Right? Like he has enough money to be considered like a small country, I would think, probably maybe even a large country.

So I think it's just the, how public he is about his money, how public he is about everything that he does. And normally we're not used to being able to see that as just the plebeians of the world. I agree. And I think that, I think it's very interesting. And I, you know, I was thinking of, lot about our conversation last week about FTX and Larry David and how all these celebrities were pumping crypto and I think that it would behoove us to look at

this article that is the disastrous record of celebrity crypto endorsements you ready yes Matt Damon gained infamy as the star of fortune favors of the brave a campaign for cryptocurrency exchange crypto.com and since then Bitcoin's price has dropped more than 60% since the ad aired. You know, do we do we go after Matt Taven for that? I don't think so, but interesting. Others who have done crypto commercials. Tom Brady, Mike Tyson, Reese Witherspoon, French Montana, say it in so French, Paul Pierce, and even, Mark Cuban all endorse some version of crypto.

What do you think of all this, Ben? I'm trying to think, is it illegal to promote a stock? Not if you don't short sell it. Like if somebody, if the S&P 500 wanted to put together an ad campaign, can they do that? Yeah, I think if you disclose that you have a financial interest and then you don't dump your shares the moment that the stock goes up, you can You can certainly promote something that you have a financial interest in. I think you're doing your fiduciary duty.

So then I don't really see a huge issue. Like it's awareness of something that you certainly should do diligence on. Like I think if I have the choice to can you advertise things like cryptocurrency, I would say you probably shouldn't. I think the same way that I find it insane that sports gambling is. something that you can legally advertise because it is, while not endorsing it, telling people to do something that's highly addictive and very volatile and they don't have really a chance to not get addicted and lose all their money. And then on the other side of it, you can't

advertise cigarettes. Why not? I'm just saying, if you can advertise these things, I think you should be able to advertise anything. And us as consumers should do a little bit more research. I will never blindly, maybe it's just because I'm sort of in this game, as are you, I'll never blindly buy a product because a celebrity told me to buy a product, especially not of enough financial interest that it could hurt me. Like when the rock comes out and says, buy my tequila, I'm like, yeah, I'll give it a try, right? But I'll only buy it again if it's good tequila, the same way I'll endorse Sprit Society because I think it's fantastic and I made it, but if it's not for you, don't spend a million dollars on buying Sprit Society for no reason.

So I think it's the same thing. Like if you saw an FTX commercial promoted by Matt Damon and you wanted to get involved, get involved a little. But if you don't know anything, what the hell are you doing dumping all your money in? I think that's kind of their fault. I agree. And I can't believe how incredibly smart the two of us are. We're geniuses.

Oh, my God. I mean, you went to a Jewish college and I didn't go. to college at all and yet here we are we're geniuses we're here to just tell people ivy leagues you got nothing on us i want to already i've been thinking that for 2024 during the election you and i come out with merch that says peck software 24 right is this genius i love it oh i know get excited guys that's two years away um we could or we could run love that too yeah there's the independent party. What would our party be?

The what are you nuts? No. The what do we stand for, we did this episode. Remember, we just got to go back and we got to pull it and we got to see what we said. I'm pretty sure that I said

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picture of my butthole, they can have it. Like, done. Let's go with, I don't know all these people, but let's go with people I do know. Okay. You ready for this? Come in at number four. At $7.69 million a month, Tyga. That's right, Tyga.

The RACC city rapper apparently set up his popular OnlyFans account after a leaked image of his privates went viral. He regularly shares explicit content for a $20 per month charge and was highly displeased after only fans announced it would no longer host such material. But nevertheless, 7.69 million a month? You said a month? That's why I paused. Taiga is making $100 million a year.

I'm not even saying off only fans. In general, Taiga makes $100 million a year. I mean, that's Saudi Arabia money. I don't even know what to do with this information. I feel like we're just, we're doing everything wrong. That is disturbing. Do you think anybody wants to see a picture of our sacks? Like that's really the question.

Like if we were to leak pictures of our Nutsacks, would the same thing happen? Or is it because it's TIGA that there's some affinity where people want to see that? Because he obviously leaked it himself just to see what would happen, right? Or you think this is just some happy $100 million a year accident? I don't know. I don't even, I didn't know, I mean, forgive me for Jen. this I didn't know dudes can make that much money on only fans but it's um I'm sure he that was probably his best month ever it might have been his only month because obviously

he's he's since been it sounds like he's been kicked off but like I mean Tyga can you like let's talk about men who like if Chris Hemsworth who's a friend like if he put out like slightly suggest if Boto was on only fans. Or let's, any of the, you know, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Maloney from Law and Order SVU, like, would these, I mean, these guys would make what? 40 million in a month? 50. But see, I was just thinking that as I'm talking about Tyga.

Like, if I saw Tyga on the street, I would now look at him like, oh, you are nasty. Like, there's just like, you know what I mean? Like, at what point? Like, what do you use? money on like what do you need a hundred million dollars for if people can't like i don't know like i couldn't look at him like i i would have to think that the same consideration goes through the kardashian's minds all the time kiley jenner could probably make a hundred literally a hundred million a month if she wanted to do explicit content but there's clearly a reason why she's not

and I have to assume it's got to be like, how do you look at people? How do you talk to people? Like, the internet is so public. Tiger walks into any room, any business meeting. And there's a solid chance that somebody's seen as pecker. And maybe he doesn't care. But it's an interesting tradeoff. I would do a lot of things.

I don't think I would do full frontal nudity like that. I don't. Would you? I mean, I've shown my butt in movies before. for and but it was movies and it was really kind of before how viral things could go on social media. So I know now if I like did some crazy dope movie where I had to do like frontal nudity, like Josh Peck's pecker is going to be trending on Twitter. And it's a very above average size pecker.

Yeah, I would say above average. I don't know very but above. It's healthy. It's really, you know what? The reality is here is that I'm a giver and I'm going for the Academy Award, whether it's in my acting or in the boudoir. You know, I want to win the gold medal of canoodling. Amen. Amen. Amen to that.

Amen to that. Following Tyga, we've got Cardi B at 9.3 million a month. Bella Thorne at 11 mil a month. And Black China, number one. as $20 million a month. So is this their greatest month or this is monthly averages? It's got to be their greatest. Because you know what's so interesting?

And this 100% goes to what I said about you just see people differently. I didn't know Bella Thorne was on Onlyfins making that kind of money. But what I can tell you is that I knew Bella Thorne went to the dark side. She was like a, just like a, was she Disney champ? She was something. She was a child star, but not even child. She was like a little, like 17, 18, whatever. I guess still child star.

And she had her, like, little Miley Cyrus moment, but I guess she took it really far into, I didn't realize, Onlyfams. Wow. That's interesting. Yeah. It's, I think that there's definitely an opportunity there for us, and we should still continue to investigate.

Here's another one, and I think this one is an interesting thing. Will Smith responds to people who reject his comeback so soon after, oh, an ad came up. Of course it did. It's probably the other podcast trying to sabotage us because of our momentum. Will Smith responds to people who reject his comeback so soon after, Oscar slap. I completely understand. And he says, if someone is not ready, I would absolutely respect that and allow them their space not to be ready. My deepest concern is my team. Antoine has done what I think is the greatest work of his entire career. The people on this

team have done some of the best work of their entire careers. And my deepest hope is that my actions don't penalize my team. At this point, that's what I'm working for. And he's talking about his new movie, emancipation. Yeah. So I think it's worth talking about, do we feel like the guy has I don't know,

done his time, an actor, you know, an actor purgatory? I'm so on the fence with this one because I normally, I hate the idea of canceling somebody for one thing that they did. It's just such a strange thing that he did. Yes. So bold and so bad and so, uh, it's, I think it's just too soon. I think, uh, has it even been a year? No, it was March.

Yeah, I just think that he needed, he needs to take, I'm sure that he filmed this before that happened, right? So he's got to release the movie. I just, I don't know. I remember we were talking about it that night, it just was so terrible and had such subliminal messaging that comics can't say things

without being accosted on stage. I remember we spoke about this. That being said, though, it's over. I'm not thinking about it. He shouldn't have brought it up. By the way, I bet you nobody even said anything. He just brought it up so that it would be something that we're talking about, because now all of a sudden we're talking about

emancipation. So honestly, He probably did it as a PR stunt and he knows that nobody actually gives her shit. I completely one-eated. I agree. I think it's time to get over it. I think he did something. I think what was the most shocking was because it was so out of character for this beloved Hollywood sweetheart, I'll call it. But the reality is it happened.

It just was on a very elevated stage. If we had heard, look, here's the headline, right? And it's worth thinking about. Granted, we saw what really happened. But if we had read a headline that said, someone talks crap about Will Smith's wife at a bar, at a party on set, Will Smith slaps the guy,

we would have been like good for him, right? But like, we saw what really happened. We know that it wasn't warranted. So I think that's the part of it where it's like, it's not so much the act, it's just like the circumstance in which it happened, you know? I hate that we'll never know what really happened that night. Like, it's so out of character, and their marriage was in such a strange place.

Again, I know nothing, but it seems like it was in such a strange place. Like, did she just, like, kick him under the table, or, like, write a note, like, you better defend me or I'm leaving you? Or, like, there's just something that was so strange about that whole thing that left us all thinking, like, was this staged? and I just I don't know I don't know so weird so weird so weird so weird so public who does that it's the weirdest moment and again and I think I've said this before I just am not looking forward to all the tongue-in-cheek jokes on the 2023 Oscars when whoever is hosting starts doing all these like funny quips about last year Yeah, no, totally.

It'll be terrible. So I think we do a this or that? I think for this or that and you tell me, but I think that, you know, the holidays are here. Hanukkah, Kwanza, Christmas, it's a beautiful time. And I think the this or that this week, our debate should be Jews celebrating Christmas. Do we, are we for it or are we against it? I'm happy to take the against. And more specifically,

I don't mean like going over to their friends who celebrate Christmas to like enjoying their festivities. I mean having a tree, packages under the tree, what are they called gifts, gifts under the tree, ornaments, Christmas carols, the whole thing, like really buying into the thing when you're like a full out Jew 99% of the time. But not like the going to church. No. No, just very ceremonially the tree. the festiveness, correct? Okay, I'll take either side.

You said you want to go against? I'll go against. Okay, I'll go for it. Do you want to start? I'll start. I'm happy to. After you. The Christmas tree has become really just American.

It's possible that it's because we live in a Christian country, but Christmas is an American holiday. It's, there's Christmas movies, they don't have anything to do with religion, it's a beautiful festive time to get together with family and friends and give each other presents. Mariah Carey, I don't want a lot for Christmas. I don't want a lot for Christmas is amazing, right? It just fills you with that holiday cheer. I don't know, man. I don't have any issues with a Jew that wants to have a festive Christmas tree.

Having a Christmas tree, putting some trees, putting some presents under their tree, all that I would say is that you should also celebrate your own holiday. So double dip. Have the menorah, have the tree, have the accoutrements for Kwanza. That's time. Do it all. Thank you, Benjamin. My minute starts now.

Listen, is this just not ridiculous? Weekend eight nights. We've really pumped up this Hanukkah holiday, which, let's be honest, in Judaism, it's a sea list holiday at best. Not important, not special, but it just so happens to fall during the time where you do have this very special holiday of Christmas. Now I have these Jewish friends.

They are so Judaism forward. They do Shabbat. They want their kids to be like, they start their kids in Hebrew school at three years old. I mean, really, Pock committed. And yet, they're sending these weird cross signals with the tree, with the presents, It's like this one thing we're going to go in for...

No, no, no. Pick aside. You know, commit. I'm not saying don't stop over at your lovely Christian neighbor's house for a couple side dishes and some eggnog on Christmas Day on your way to the Chinese food and movies that hopefully you're about to do. But you can't have the best of both worlds. Two minutes cross-talk, let's have it.

You make some compelling points. Honestly, my favorite part about Christmas exactly is you make. mentioned is that Christmas Eve go to the casino have a great time day of Christmas ordering a ton of Chinese food that's what you just do on Christmas casino New Christmas Eve Chinese food Christmas Day have a great time I don't know look am I personally buying a tree no it's not for me do I think it's a little weird when sometimes people buy trees sure but people do weird things people do weird things So I don't really have any issues with it,

but I would agree with you that Hanukkah is a holiday that should be celebrated. The one thing that I think that Jews would want to celebrate Christmas a little bit less if they meet Hanukkah a little bit more sexy. Chonika really is just lottkas and applesauce and candles and then eight subpar presents as opposed to just, what would you prefer? eight subpar presents or one big cahuna. I think we need the big cahuna. I agree with you.

And I think a couple people need to really step up. I think Hallmark needs to start devoting at least a quarter of their December entertainment choices to Hanukkah. Right. It's always, you know, going home for Christmas, love at Christmas time, the Christmas carol or dream. What about Hanukkah Harry's, you know, return? What about the Jewish jamboree? Some more Hanukkah movies on Lifetime and Hallmark. I think, listen, Jews love romance.

We love a nice sort of, you know, simple rom-com that's, you know, good for all audiences. So I think that we just really need to start lining. we need to get behind Judaism. We need to hire cauliflower's publicist and say, take on Hanukkah what you've done for cauliflower over the last two years with pizza. You turned it into pizza. I mean, it's unbelievable. So take Hanukkah, will you? You are so right. I know that our cross talk shouldn't be about cauliflower, but now we're going to have to talk about cauliflower. Do we wait or do we just start talking about cauliflower? You won. You brought up cauliflower.

We're moving on. Because that is so true. How much money did the lobbyist put into cauliflower? And why? Why did they do it? I would ask the same questions about milk. What is it about milk? Like, cauliflower is probably much cheaper to make.

So if you can get behind cauliflower, farm the cauliflower, and just turn into everything. cauliflower, noki, cauliflower, pizza, cauliflower. I love the head of the cauliflower. You throw it in the oven, it comes out all crispy. cauliflower. Have you ever had General Tose cauliflower? They do that too. Mm-hmm. Panda Express, our unofficial partner, they don't know that they are, but they are. They've just come out with a beyond chicken, orange chicken, fabulous. And I'm assuming, kosher adjacent. Wow. Beyond chicken, that's great, but that's not cauliflower. That's just

straight cancer. I don't know if you know what's in this beyond stuff, but this beyond stuff is just like, I don't know, pancreatic cancer in sauce, which is just like so sad. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Leeds don't come after us. Oh, true, sure, alleged. I don't know. I don't know. I said nothing. All of a sudden I get shot on the spot. I take it all back. I take it all back. Anything else? I'm trying to think of one other. Oh, this is an interesting one. and I think it's worth talking about. Carnival passenger rescued after 15 hours at sea because he got in trouble for vaping.

Is that my wife? The 28-year-old man who hasn't been identified was with his sister at the Carnival Valer's Bar at 11 p.m. He took a bathroom break and never came back. They reported him missing at noon the next day, Someone on the cargo ship alerted authorities after spotting the man who had seen in a dramatic video being plucked from the ocean some 20 miles south of Louisiana's coast. He told his rescuers he wasn't sure how he'd fallen overboard.

What does this have to do with? Oh, he kept... I love when you read an article. And you're just like, where is the writer going with this? It's like when you read those recipes, you know, and you're like Googling French. onion soup and all of a sudden the first three pages are like a story about her and her grandmother and you're like, give me the recipe. It's totally true. I mean, I think this is all clickbait. Needless to say, I think falling off of a boat for vaping is ridiculous. Oh, he kept getting in trouble

for vaping in non-designated smoke areas because there's only one area where you can really go smoke. I think it's hilarious to almost die over vaping. But also, So I just, if I was even remotely, if I remotely suspected that Paige was unhappy with me, I would never go on a cruise with her because that's where you go to die. Like this is where people's spouses disappear, no? Yes, absolutely. I mean, yeah, don't take a cruise, moral of the story. So the person was vaping.

The people on the cruise were upset or it was policy that you couldn't, vape and so how did he end up at sea? I think he probably drunkenly went into some restricted area to vape in peace and fell over. Relatable. I mean, but like I feel like on life insurance policies when they're asking the questions, they should be like, do you smoke? Do you do any illicit drugs? Do you cruise?

Because if you do, they're going to be paying out eventually. cruises are crazy. Has nobody seen the Titanic? I haven't seen the Titanic. I've never seen Titanic. What other famous movies have you never seen? I've never seen Titanic. I've never seen...

I actually... There's so many movies that I haven't seen. I realize I have a very, very... One of my biggest flaws is if you ask me in public, oh, have you seen X? I automatically say yes. No matter what. Even if I've never seen the movie.

I'll just laugh. Go along with it. Ha ha. Yeah, I love that line. See your liar? No, never seen it. I'm a liar when it comes to movies. If you ask me if I've seen a movie and I say yes, you're going to have to grill me on it.

But even if I've seen a movie, except for like six of them, I can't remember any of the lines, but famous movies that I haven't seen, I've never seen Rocky. I've seen Parts of it. I've never seen... Terminator? Titanic. I saw Terminator when I was little and I had terrible nightmares about Schwarzenegger. Terrible nightmares. It's crazy.

Crazy. Some kid invited us over for a sleepover. I was in the third grade. Mom put on Terminator. Couldn't sleep for a month. Were you a kid that was allowed to go out for sleepovers? Because I wasn't. I could go out for sleepovers. I thought you were going to ask were you a kid that could watch like rated R movies. Hell no. Not in no way. Could you watch rated R movies? Yeah, but I was an only child and only had a single parent. So I was pretty much like unsupervised for a lot of my life. Understood. Yeah, no, I was a no R-rated movie guy, but I could have sleepovers. You were no sleepover guy? No, I was chubby with asthma, or as they call it, a double threat.

And so I, you know, I remember I went over to my boy Louis house and he was that friend whose family has way too many Pomeranians. And I just remember getting a terrible, like, and the thing when you were a kid, when an asthma attack would start coming on, there was a psychosomatic response to where you then get anxiety because of the attack coming. Yes. And I also, like, this is 1997. So there's no Zyrtec.

There's no Allegra. I'm like, oh, I'm going to, this is about to get really bad quickly. I start wheezing, like you wouldn't believe his parents immediately call my mother. They're like, your big chubby son is about to. you know, it's about to flatline on our kitchen floor. My mom's like, get him home now. And I just remember, like, my friend's adorable, like, parents, literally Louis, Big Lou and Louis being like, Louis, get him in the car.

Louie's turning blue! And just wheezing on the BQE all the way home. So you couldn't have sleepovers because they were worried about your health. Yeah, then I would... I thought it was going to be because your mom was worried that you'd be like sneaking out coming to parties. But it was because she was worried that you were going to die in the middle of the night. That is really...

Dude, I used to bring a nebulizer to sleepovers. Can you imagine? And this is like... But I used to bring a fan. I would bring a honey well to every sleepover because I'd always get too hot in the middle of the night. That's so funny. That is... Tell me you're Jewish without telling me you're Jewish.

I'd show up with a tote with my honeywell and my blue bear up until I was in like the sixth grade. Every sleepover. It was probably also like a white noise machine for you. It was. I love a white noise machine. That's why I need to sleep with air conditioning, more so just for the noise than anything else. Can you imagine if we did merch that was a fan? We're going to need to do merch with a picture of a fan on the sweater.

And a nebulizer. We should come out with a nebulizer company. That would be great, fans and nebulizers? The follow-up to Spritz. And we can get the Saudis to back it. They're all over it. They're all over it. Well, folks, that's our show.

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