Good Guys - That's SO Raven and Miranda

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

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T-time! Thank you for coming. Thank you for having us. Then we were just all sharing a subject that I know that's near and dear to your heart, which is a gene was stretch, a pantless stretch. I haven't bought a gene without stretch ever. You know what? I'm proud of you, sir.

It's just like, I don't even know why we make them without stretch. Like sometimes you'll accidentally buy a pair of jeans that you think. think are the genes that you normally get that are stretchy. And then you go to put them on, and you're like, these are going to rip right at the thighs. Those are masochists. Yeah. Purely. Have you ever had the experience of having your jeans put in the dryer? And then you go to put them on and they are tight and they have maybe like shrunk a size. You have to lay down. Yes. And then you're just like, what the hell you feel bad about yourself the whole rest of the day? Because you're like, I don't fit into these jeans and they're stiff. It's like, there's nothing worse. That is the

year 2005 for me, the whole entire year. The entire year? Yes. Wow. Every day. Every day. Every day. Bad gene dryer lifestyle. Ooh, babes. How many different size jeans do you guys have currently in your house?

I have four. I have from a 34 to a 40. His closet looks like a blooming dance. It looks like a DXL. Oh, my God. I actually stopped buying any types of pairs of jeans. I threw them all away and I only buy. jinko jeans now.

Wow. I went back to where it all started. Trendy. And it's just the right fit. And they stay. I have like two waist sizes. Period time and non-period time. Sorry,

which you guys totally relate to. Yeah. For me, when it comes to gene sizes, it only ranges based off of the cut of denim. So it's like, or the cut of jeans. They're not of denim. But there are some denims that are more stiff. And then they will be a highway.

and therefore I'll need to like size down or there's a pant that's a little bit more baggy. So there I'd have to like adjust. You know what I mean? It's just like, but I don't really know what my range is. But what for guys, right? Like do you guys have that problem? Like the hip to thigh ratio moment or is it just like crotch to leg moment? No, I have an athletic leg.

Okay. I have a skinny mini waist. Yeah. Skinny mini 33. Just tiny. Right in the middle. But when you see these sycamores, these things?

Are we in the Redwoods? Do we need to have a wildfire warning? And so, yeah, I need a special, I need a special pant, Ben. It's the best part about being formerly morbidly obese is like coming out of it just with thighs that are so fucking strong. Like I too, like my number one feature is my thigh. Like you put me in a gym, I can deadlift. Do I work out?

No, that I can do it because I deadlifted for fucking 30 years. Just walking. Yeah, because I can do a reason it. I can do like a zillion squats now. My thighs are fantastic. I'm very strong because we had a lot of weight on. I had a lot of weight on me. Wow.

It's a blessing. It is. I love it. I like, I wouldn't have it any other way. Have we ever had, and I don't know if we're getting too personal or too quick, but I'm going there, I'm being vulnerable? Let's do it. Have you ever had the thighs rubbing?

Chafing. A chaf. Yes. Not only do they chafe, but they change color because of my melanin and because of the, it sometimes will discolorate. So like the higher you go in my thigh area, the darker it gets. I like to call it my permanent tan, so whatever. Oh.

And it's just a Gold Bond moment or am I just speaking for myself? Baby powder. Yeah, a little, yeah, just a nice medicated powder. Yeah. It depends on how bad it is. Sometimes you can go like a thick salve. You can go with the cream if it's really even rubbing too long. Like sometimes I'll forget how big my thighs are and I'll just walk around in a wet bathing suit and I'll get home.

And I'll need to go to the ER. Like this is like... It's real. It's real. It's a little red down there. Chub rub is real. Females, we have to be careful. We can't put powder on our thighs.

Right? We have to stick with the oils and the salves. It can be dangerous. You used to baby powder the hell out of yourself. And then I learned that that was bad. Because what I loved is Raven, would like be in her bathroom doing her thing and I would see a foot trail that was left from like the bathroom into the bedroom to her underwear drawer back around. I could trace every single one of

her steps because she left baby powder all over her feet. That's cute. That's like a game. Oh, but it was like not for me Josh where I was like trying. First of all I was like what ghost is in this house? And number two then I had to like swip her everything. It was crazy. It was my favorite. Oh my God, it was ridiculous. But chafing is no joke. That is very uncomfortable. Waits, where do you chaf? Well, I know.

I actually do have that problem because it's not just about size. It's also like if you're built a certain way. And so my thighs touch, like I don't have a thigh gap. So I don't even think like no matter how skinny I could baby be. You're an ally. You're an ally. Yeah, I'm an ally. We'll leave it at that.

How fucking sick is a thigh gap though, Josh? Like, yeah, badly I want a thigh gap. You know how weird I'd look. It'd be like a man with a gap. Like you had a tumor removed. Oh, my God. Okay, what's a piece of clothing that you can't wear? Like, for me, I can't wear anything that, like,

you know where guys are like kind of like a sheer, not sheer, but like almost like a knit, something tight, like a marino wool? Yeah, yeah. Like any kind of one of those like tighter, thin, the thinner the material, the, the thick or the material kind of hides camouflage. but if it's like something thin around like I just look like a sack of potatoes. I can't with you right now. I look like a pear.

A pears are juicy, boo. A good pair? A good pair. But a good pair though, my wife. So good. What are the reason I fell in love with her? She used to poach pears for me at night and bake them for me with some peanut butter. Oh my God.

Stop. Yeah, they're delicious. Yeah, they're super. And then two Christmases ago, I poached pears in wine, in red wine. When I was doing that for her for dessert, I wasn't doing it with wine. but I did it for the holidays with wine and is my mom. Okay, back to your question. I'm so sorry.

What clothing can we not wear? And then I want to know, Miranda, do you do a lot of cooking, but we can go to that afterwards. We go back to your question. Do you see me? It's not it hurts me. Don't put that on me. I'm not putting that on you, Ricky Bobby.

Clothing you can't wear a baby. No, baby first. Your list is longer. Yeah, I'm very material-specific. So there's a lot of clothing I stay away from because I don't like high necks, like a turtleneck I don't like. I don't want to wear anything that's too tight or kind of restrictive. I don't like itchy woles. Kind of like what you were saying. I, she also has like really a very long waist. So back when we had a stylist, he would buy pants. And sometimes the pants just didn't fit right. I look. I have a really

long. I have like a 70s body. Yeah. I feel like I literally look like a woman from the 70s all the time. So if you put certain things on me, and this is really interesting, you guys, because something about my proportions, like, skirt length is very weird on me. So a lot of times I give like Hasidic Jew in a skirt, like, when I, when the skirt is supposed to. When like the skirt is a fantasy in. I mean, you're in Crown Heights. You make eyes with DeBora across the kosher market. You know, she's ready. Shalom. Shalom. Yeah. Like, hello, Ripka. Exactly. She's coming in hot. It should be my alter ego. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Rivka, let's go. Let's do it. But it'll just, like, the look that the person is, like, trying to achieve on me is, like, this, like, sexy. And they're like, why isn't this working? And I'm like, it's my torso. I don't know what to tell you. That's my torso.

So there's quite a lot I can't wear. We all have something. Mine is very politically incorrect. The wife beater. Ah. I, when I was younger and my early, am I a gay day? Can you not wear that? I can't wear wife feeders because what happens.

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press last week? Oh, yeah. I was talking about my titty. They're there I don't know It circulates There's maybe a recent There's maybe a recent TikTok Maybe something that the only reason people watch That's O Raven was because of your breasts

That was perhaps Yeah my breasts My breasts Her breastestes My breastuses They're called tities, okay I love it I love that I've never had them

What's it like? My baby has a nice little couple. I'm happy. Yeah, I'm happy too. So, yeah, I mean, listen, I was, I, I, I looked at some of the Nielsen ratings when it came to that. So, I was, and there were a lot of guys watching. And Disney's just not known for bringing guys to the yard. And so I just, you know, I know what they were looking at. But they also, it was so funny. I think I was in Atlanta. I was walking down the street and this guy come up to me, he was like, I love you. And I just want you to know you're incorrect. And I said, I said, me, me time. And he goes, that's not the only reason I watched you.

And I said, oh. Because you don't probably know this because Raven isn't one who, like, stays up on social media. But that became a big thing. And a lot of people were actually saying, Raven, we never watched the show for your titties. We watched the show because we loved you. And we loved your comedy and don't kind of sell yourself short. Agreed. Oh, that's kind.

That was me. And then a lot of people were also like, we were young boys. I'm a Chris Massey guy. So I don't know why you guys. Immediately, yes. Immediately, yes, that's funny. Oh, that's good to know. Well, thank you social media for standing up and proving me wrong, ish.

Yeah, yes. Well, the article of clothing that I can't wear is anything that's tight around the hips. I do my best to hike my underwear over. Josh does the same. I won't put them on the spot. But we hike our underwear just a little bit higher than norm. Kind of like cover the handle. I literally just did that.

Oh, yeah. It's the only way to be. But so if you wear a sweater that's a little bit too tight. and then all of a sudden you see just like the underwear. I don't want anybody seeing my underwear through my sweater. Right? So it needs to be a little bit boxier. Or black.

Always. I can wear anything in black. I really can't wear colors. I can't wear pink. Black. I like black. I do too. At the age where I don't, I'm in full acceptance.

I just have a healthy curiosity about like being the kind of guy that could whip their shirts off and do no adjusting. How does that feel? How does it? I don't know. You haven't practiced it yet? Not me. I can't. You have to practice it.

Why? You can. You're huge and beautiful. Like, I don't even know what you're talking about. I know, but I still got, you know, when you're as heavy as I was, you got a little skin here and there. You got some, like, random scarring shout out. Yeah. But, like, you know what I mean?

And so I notice when people like, and when I do take off my shirt, it's people are never like, whoa, but they are like, huh. Not the smile. Yeah. Yeah. I think we just care a little bit too much. Like, all you got to do is go to a spot. or a steam room and watch these 75-year-olds just like go full dick and walk around. And then you're like, why am I? What the hell am I worried about? Yeah.

They don't care about me. I don't care about them. The problem is that I do care too much. We were living in a neighborhood that was, let's just say, no celebrity buses were looking for us in that neighborhood, right? Fair. So one morning I woke up, I put on some spandex booty shorts, a wife beater. And my arms were exposed. My legs were exposed. my legs were exposed. My wife was like, what are you doing? And I'm like trauma therapy, babes. She was like exposure therapy. Exposure therapy. I am working to be comfortable with myself by showing my arms and my legs. Because if you notice a lot of my stuff, like back in the day when I was like Uber girlish, I'd show my legs because I'd have to in dresses.

But like I don't do that anymore. So I was really trying to work on it. And it's a muscle to get yourself used to taking your shirt off. I dare you, Josh, for one week, randomly throughout the day in your car, at your, house in your backyard. Do it now. Take your shirt off. Take your shirt off and then put it back on. Just for one week, Josh, do not wear a shirt.

Okay. Anywhere you go. Just don't do it. I'm more comfortable being bottom, bottom naked and just walking like full Winnie the poo. You know what I'm saying? Not winning.

The boo. Ask you for you. I'll go full wint. I'll go pull puddle duck. I don't care. Like my bottom half is fine. It's the top. I'm a little insecure about.

But when you say, like, did you feel that pressure? You said when you were younger to be more, in quotes, girlish? Yeah, most definitely, especially. I mean, even today, I kind of feel that pressure, but I don't give in to it. I feel like definitely when, you know, I was on TV at that time, my counterparts, everyone had the cutest outfit on and things of that nature. And, you know, the way I present myself now probably not have been accepted as much as it is now. Thanks to the new generation and all of the people standing up for what.

what's right and being comfortable and authentic. But yeah, back then, most definitely. And if I did it, I did it full out all the way through and through, honey. You couldn't tell me anything. I tipped, I walked, I had the sashay. Then I would come home and I would put on a whole pro club hoodie, take up my makeup off and chill on the couch with my legs open. And even the guy that I was dating was like, what's wrong with you?

I'm like, shh, what? Bring me some food. You know what I mean? I just sit on the couch. I brought the rub my belly. Exactly. Bring me a beer. I made the money.

Go sit down. You know what I mean? It's the dichotomy of it all. Be more like Miranda, would you? No, Miranda don't take it. She don't do that. She's like a beer. Here's some filtered water and rub my feet.

Anytime, baby. Anytime. And you're like, yes. Exactly, exactly. I want to talk about this beautiful love affair that you two have. Because Ben, in case you don't know the backstory, I've known Miranda since we were, or I've known Raven since we're teenagers growing up in the beautiful San Fernando. Valley heard of it. And then in the last 10 years, Miranda and I became friends and my wife page

and we were, you know, we were hanging out. And Miranda would mention that she had dated Raven and it was kind of the, the one that got away. And now to have seen them reconnect and have this beautiful love, tell us. Oh, babes, tell us. Tell us. Well, I always knew that Raven was my person. I truly just like, after meeting her in 2015, I was like, she's my person. That's it. So we dated, we moved to New York, she did the view. I was in love. I was like, this is incredible. We broke up. I was heartbroken. And I moved back to L.A. from New York. And that's, I think, when our paths crossed. And I was, yeah, like blabbering and blabbering about Raven and trying to, like, get my life back together. I was dating somebody else. And it was just kind of, I don't know,

it was really interesting because as somebody who's always had issues with, trusting herself. I was so certain about Raven. And it was just like, it was clear. Like, there were no questions. Like, every part of my body knew that I was meant to be with this person. And I had these visions of, like, finding out that she was getting married to somebody else and crashing the wedding and stopping it and being like, no, you're making the worst mistake. And then during COVID, we reconnected. And very quickly, we're like, this is it. And we're getting married. So we'd reconnected in April and we got married in June. And, and, And now it's almost been five years of being married.

Wow. Beautiful. A round of applause for that. Come on. And also just like a round of applause for the way that you talk about Raven. Like that's lovely. Like more people should do that. More people.

Josh. What do you mean? Just kidding. Josh, talk about Raven like that. Oh my God. No, don't. Raven and I were yentering over green tea, temporary ice cream. Period.

If you understood my first and one of my first, One of my first interactions with Raven, I must have been, you know, 16, 17 years old. I'm mid-weight loss, so I'm at a weird time. Long sideburns, 260. Okay. Oh, my God. And we happen to be at our local sushi haunt.

I see Raven there. Oh, sushi Dan. Sushi Dan. Sorry, sushi Dan. Midori was good, too. All you can eat. Yeah, exactly. So good.

They're like, you know, if you don't clean your plate, you have to pay for it. I'm like, oh, don't you worry. Don't tell me these things. I think we're going to be okay. I can make muscles. Another fucking. Ground. But yes, and I remember Raven and I were chatting, and she looked at me and said, have you ever had green tea, Tempura fried ice cream?

And I said, no. And she was like, sit down. So funny. And it was a dream. But I think, you know, Ben and his wife have been together over a decade. Oh, beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful baby.

Baruch Hashem on the way. B.H. Yes. What do you identify with that? I know I do with that. same feeling of like just somehow weirdly it's like yeah this is my person i don't need to be convinced yeah no and once you found your person you just go for it we found each other really early like we started dating we were 20 and 18 we got married at 25 and 23 and people are like that's young and it's like

i found my person like what do you want me to do dick around for a decade like no like we found each other and like it's just there's no better feeling than that but at the same time once you found your person it makes you realize imagine being in a like a horror marriage. Like imagine like that life where you're looking across and you're like, oh, I hate this fucking person. Yeah. Like that must be a nightmare. Yeah. I can't even imagine. And a lot of people feel that way. It's terrible. We're very lucky. We're very lucky that that mentality of marriage definitely happened a lot in past generations and happens now too. But it's like we're never really taught to me in my head. I'm kind of, you know, changing the subject a little bit. But we're never

really taught how to love correctly because we're all coming from a child space. So I think that with our generation and us, we had a chance to learn ourselves a little bit more than our parents did and their parents did because of social normatives and what we were allowed to learn about ourselves to then find the person that we'd like. When you guys hear people say marriage is so hard or, you know, the old ball and chain, that type of thing, what are your thoughts? It is. It is. I think that I have this idea and I've sort of created it from observing people in recovery. I'll see people, they get sober, they start working on themselves, they get in shape, they're spiritual, they're doing all the things. They're manifesting, blah, blah, blah. And they're

perpetually single. Because once you enter into a relationship, you're leveling up. And you're trying out, I always say, like, you don't want to be a Fabergerge egg where you're this perfect, beautiful thing, but you get jostled around too much and you shatter. So now you're like actually testing the work. And you're seeing yourself, like, I can never have known, as a much as I do about myself without Page being like, you're not seeing this. So let me give you this view. So I think that that is relentless growth. Like that's what's been revealed to me every time in the face of challenge or something's going on with myself or between Paige and I, it's like, well, are you willing to grow a little more and do just a little more work? And on the other side

of it, it'll be great, but you got to be willing. I heard someone on a podcast say, they were asked if they believed in soulmates. And their response was yes and no. And the no part was, I believe actually that there isn't just one person, that there's three people and there's three different types of love and relationships that people will end up having. And there were two and it was kind of like, one is romantic and that gets boring. And one is something I can't remember and then, you know, you end up walking away from that. But the third is the mirror. And the mirror relationship is the relationship that will last you the longest and that also allows you, everything that you were just saying, Josh, it's that push to grow because you're fully in a place where you have

somebody mirroring back to you all of the things that you need to do. And it can feel really hard and really trying and really exhausting at times. But if you actually settle into it and you accept the challenges that you're being presented with, which really have more to do with you individually than your spouse or anything outside of you, you can become so much better. And then you end up in one of the most fulfilling special relationships of your entire life because you've co-created this life together, but this like this growth together as well, individually and separate. And to have somebody be able to individually and together.

Individually and together. And to have someone who's able to mirror you in a way that actually allows you to grow is so special. Because it is. It's the difference. It's like you can have someone to mirrors you and then you start to, you know, dip down a little bit and turn into what you don't want versus having someone mirror you and you turn into a better human that you've always thought you were when you were single and doing all that work.

It's like, well, I agree with you. Yeah. You mentioned ball and chain though before Miranda. That expression I fucking hate. Me too. Marriage is very hard, but I absolutely despise it when I'm with somebody and they are complaining to me about their spouse in a serious way. Like you can joke like Josh and I just before were, we're joking.

talking about how I have a golf trip this weekend. And I told my wife 10 months ago that I had this trip. So now she's totally comfortable that I'm going away this weekend. That's what I do too. That's what happens. You have to prep it for sure. And some could call that ball and chain. But no, I love her. She is my person that's managing expectations. Josh said it's hard work. It is hard work adjusting and making sure that your significant other is comfortable. Yeah. But like, don't come to me and like complain that your wife is a huge bitch. Like divorce. if you hate her. Exactly.

Like, I don't need that on me. Yeah. It's so, it's like weird. Like, misery loves company and like some people try to like get out of you that you're unhappy. And it's like, no, I'm really, I'm really fucking happy. Yeah. Like, you know, keep it to yourself.

This is such a, not a tangent, but it's just to hear me out. I was an executive assistant. And one of the agents who would constantly call my boss before any meeting, he allowed to start. It would be, tell me how much you hate your wife. Tell me how much you hate your wife. and my boss would have to kind of like lean into it. And I was like, this is horrible.

Like, why do guys have this? Or not just guys, I'm sure women do as well. But like, why is that kind of like bro code of bonding? Like, let's talk about how shitty it is at home. And like, I'm like, why don't you normalize, like, how great it could be at home? I don't think it's normal. I think they must hate their wives. Like, it's not normal.

Like, I'm around guys that like their wives and they don't talk like that. I think it's those people are not also, they weren't ready for me. marriage. They're still living in their single brain. I mean, I'm going to be grown-ass men. Yeah. In their like 40s. Work in the industry. Come on. They're still children. Like, come on now. Listen. But I even had to go through this moment in marriage where Miranda was like, you're not single anymore. I'm like, oh, that's right. That's right. It's like to switch that brain over when you're like perpetually single slash serial monogamous, which was me. But like, always thinking, oh, I'm just going to be in a relationship for two or three years and I'm done. But like with her, I'm. I. I still have the, yeah, I'm doing this. She's like, you're married, bitch. Oh, yeah, we're doing this.

And I think that those guys that you're talking about, not only are they toxic and horrible and whatever, but they also just, they're still trying to live the single life and be young and fun and not thinking that if they, you know, really leaned into the fact that if you're with someone chose to share your life with, you could turn into someone better.

They're not ready for that level up. Right, sure. Yeah. But it's also about a little decorum. Yeah. For sure. Like, I think we can, we can also acknowledge, like, reality.

Like, if I was with Ben and, like, some stunning person walk by, like, he and I, like, we're sentient beings with eyes. Like, we can be like, wow, that's a very good looking person. But I wouldn't be like, those tits. Like, what am I from the 40s? And I was playing. Yeah. By the way.

Yeah, yeah, you would. No, I would. Do you know me to be that way? By the way, I would. If we're alone, I don't think, I, like, I think that I would. Wow. Those tities. This isn't 2005.

I'm so Raven. Is it weird that I do that to my wife? That's what I just want to ask you guys. No. Like I literally do that to my wife. Raven literally was like, I want to fuck. Oh my God. Hey.

Hell yeah. Come on air. Come on. Yeah. She was literally like, she was like. Oh my God. She was like, if she had popped her or a country star and I was like, I don't know. She's like, yeah, me either.

But I'm down to fuck. And I was like, I'm sorry. What? She was, you can't say that on air? I'm just saying. I would never do it, obviously, but I want her to know what's in my brain. But I'm asking you two, would you tell your wife to your down to fuck? No, you can't do that as a man.

You can't. I told you, I told you it was only men. But my wife would definitely look at me, like, if she's watching something and say that somebody was good looking, for sure. She wouldn't say I want to fuck him. Like, no, that wouldn't have. I don't think that would say that to your spouse's period. But I'm joking. Everyone's got their own thing.

Everyone's got their own code that, like, is down to clown. I couldn't say that to my, like most recently, I've been boning over Megan Marco to my wife. I've been like, wow, she is so stunning. I'm like, I cannot watch the show. That's literally the same thing I said. You just said it nicer. Yeah, exactly. By the way, I cannot watch the show because the show was terrible.

I'm sorry, Megan of Sussex. She's got, she glows. I mean, yeah, yeah. Listen, you want to, you down to, you know, you're down to. I mean, you know, you don't have to finish the sentence. They came to me, you know. She could call me Jay. You know.

She was going to say H. H wouldn't really like that. H. She liked an initial or two. She really does. H would not be happy to hear this conversation. No. But I do ask her multiple occasions.

Who do you think is cute? Don't you? I do that a lot. I'm like, who do you like? Because I think that we are still human beings. And I think if you cut that out, then you're cutting a part of yourself out. To be honest with you.

My wife does that to me too, but it's a trap. Fair. Like we're watching an award show. She's like, oh, doesn't, whatever, Scarlett Johansson looked great tonight? I'm like, no. See? No.

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Oh, same. We are in good company here. I just want to know what it's like hosting a daily show like that because it's slightly been in my dream, so making a nightmare. Okay, cool. Let me make it a nightmare for you really quick. One, do it with a really big company like ABC. Right.

That has multiple lawyers. Yeah. And requires a lot of views on a regular basis. Then talk about politics. Actually, get hired knowing that you're going to be talking about pop culture, but then have them switch it on. And it'd be the most heavily thick, most heavily thick. That doesn't make any sense. The most thick political climate that could ever have happened when you were supposed to be on air talking about.

2018, 2017. Okay. And you're supposed to be on air. No, 2015 was the ramp up. 16 was the ramp up. Got it. When you're supposed to be talking about pop culture. And then also, I got to be careful how I say this, but, you know, when you're prepping for a live telecast, you have to make sure that you have a point of view that is crafted.

And you stick to that. And then as an actor, just make sure like, hey, it might contradict somebody else's. So be ready for that conflict on air. Now, as my wife knows, I hate conflict. I will scream and yell. And then I will go and leave and just like, go cry in a corner. I need to be in a closet. I do not like conflict on air.

and continue that and make sure that you get everything you've ever wanted to say out of your mouth within the 30 seconds that you're allowed to speak with a whole bunch of other people on the panel. Right. And make it make sense so that the entire world doesn't come for you. Also, it's not, I had the really bad mindset that that was a safe space. Anytime there's a camera or a microphone in front of you, it's not a safe space, you guys. I don't care who you are. Sure. And you still haven't learned that lesson.

Clearly, clearly. Clearly. Rewind the tape to four minutes ago. This is a safe space. And, you know, say things that you would say in the comfort of your own home because you're at a panel with women that you love and you talk shit with them outside of the show. Yeah. It's just really scary.

It's really scary for someone who grew up having a written script their whole life. Totally. I think you guys can do it, though. I think there's a need for a male view. Yeah. No, actually, I take that back. There is no more needs for male views. I agree.

We don't want the view. No, but I'm just... Olivia, was it that funny? We don't need any more male views. But I think you guys can like talk about sports or some shit. And nobody's not me. What is the show about? What is this show about?

What is this? It's about stretchy jeans. Relationships. We could honestly do like a bit of a fashion police 2.0. Josh and I could sit there and like judge people on the carpet. That would be fun for us. I love straight fashion. That's cute.

That's a good. That's us. Look at that Patagonia jacket. Oh, my God. You're like, those lands and pants are great. Is that a car heart? But what about? There's been male views and people don't like it, right?

This is why I said no more. That's right. Like, not the male view, but like actual four guys in a round team. No, they don't like it. Wasn't it like Mario Lopez or something? Like, he needs one more job. Yeah, my God. That man is.

in my hotel. He is on my everywhere. He's crushing it. He is when you walk by the TV store if there's still a thing. Like, crazy. He's everywhere. No, I don't think you need it. I think that. Who's my favorite, picturesnary host? O'Connell. O'Connell.

Jerry. Jerry. I love you, Jerry. Sorry, I forgot your name, love. But, you know, I love you. And, you know, he's been on the panel with the talk. Yes. And I think that obviously there's a need for it. But when you guys find that niche, like, we're down for it. We're going to root for you both. Okay. We've got to find it.

Yeah. I think we need. take it a three-way when we get Steve Harvey involved. Oh my God. That changes everything. Raven's leaving. I would take a. Raven's not in. Raven's leaving.

I'm out. I hate him. I hate him. It's so good. Does you just throw up in your mouth a little bit? Oh my God. I hate him. Oh my God.

I can't. This is a best podcast. I hate Steve Harvey. Remember how she went to Atlanta? It's not Steve Harvey. Family feud, guys. She has resentment against family feud. Because I'm not hosting it.

No, I have no problem with Steve Harvey. I think he's great. But again, another person who has everything. Thank God, though. Yeah. I was at a heart attack. But would you like, would that be like a fun thing to do hosts like a game show? Well, surprising you bring that up.

Every Thursday night on the CW, Raven-Simone hosts Scrabble. Wow. She hosts a game show. Sick. It's really fun, you guys. I'm really enjoying it. And I'm a sister to trivial. Pursuit with Levar Burton.

Wow. A lot of fun. Check it out. And if you don't have the CW channel, you can get the CW app for free and it, and it streams the next day. And when I tell you, the fun that I had, we filmed it in London. And the fun that I had meeting these amazing, really, really smart humans that know how to spell.

Bravo people. It's amazing. It was amazing. They know, like, the 702-letter word that there are available in the Scrabble Dictionary. Wow. That's unbelievable. I'm horrible. It's such a good game.

What a great game. Oh, yeah. Horrible. But it's so fun. Yes. But like I judge people. Like when they're like, I'll look at someone's board and it'll be like bun. I'll be like, you didn't graduate high school.

Set school. No three letter words. No three letter words. Did you go now, Raven, you did go to set school. Had a wonderful teacher. You did? I did. Do you remember your teacher?

His name was Kevin. But Kevin got steamrolled by the higher-ups. Oh, that messed up. And they were like, yo, we don't want to have to. spend three hours of his nine-hour workday schooling him, which is literally legal. That's the law. Okay, keep going. But not to them. So they go, we have a guy who has a high school that Josh can go to and graduate from in one day. And the high school location, it's in a shady office in Silver Lake. Right. So you show up and it's an academy. And he goes, I'm going to give you a test. And you spend

two hours taking basically like a GED for people who wouldn't be able to pass the GED. And then you get a high school diploma and they no longer have to. Holy shit. That's crazy. Yeah. Oh, don't you dare. I love this so much. Thanks, Jane.

The next water. Thank you, Jane. Oh, I love it here, babe. Yeah. Well, considering you threw up in the other one. There. I want to apologize for your experience. Thank you.

Because that fucking sucks. I had a wonderful teacher. Her name was Sharon. Hmm. Sharon Sacks. And I had some other teachers when I went to high school, too, but my parents would not let that happen. I had to have good grades or I would be on punishment while also making sure I show up to

work in a real way. Wow. It was not a game for them. And I kind of envy you, but also I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Did you ever go to public school? Until I was in high school. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. How was high school? I mean, how was middle school for you? It was fine. I went to performing arts high school in New York, so it was my people. Oh, you love me. It was really, I was finally the cool kid. Oh, I love that for you.

But did you not, how was, did you ever go to normal? I did. I went to public schools, elementary, middle school, in the first two years of high school. And then I went online because that's when online schools started, Laurel Springs. Skills. Schools. I learned how to say it in schools. And again, my parents were not playing around because my mom's from a family of teachers.

So this is my favorite line for my mom. I'm like, Mom, I'm hosting the view. Oh, that's. That's great. Mom, I met this person. Wow, that's really good. Did you go to college? No, Mom.

I'm in the middle of doing my own show. I don't care until you go to college. I went to college. I swear to God. She's now saying, do you want to go back? I'll pay for it. I'm like, I can pay for my own college, mom. She cares more about that than she does anything I've ever done on screen.

It's hilarious. And also great. Yes. School's important. Yay. Wow. College. Gosh.

Did you not go? No. I think he grew up a little at his love. Yeah. I was not allowed. No. Allowed? I don't know.

It just wasn't in the cards for me. I would have, but I am also one of those people who I respect it. I think I would have appreciated it and been able to be completely available to do it now. Yeah. It's just too late. Like, it's not too late. But I think at that age, I was just like, I got to get a job. Miranda, did you go to college?

No. For like two weeks. That's my girl. Yeah. It was actually really unfortunate because I had every intention of going to college because my parents, my entire life basically said to me, you're going to find your people when you go to college because I was so uncomfortable in high school and elementary school. And my mom was just always like, you will find your people when you get to college. It's going to be wonderful. And both of my

parents are also highly educated people and really believe in education, which I do as well. But I applied to my schools. I did not get into any of the colleges I wanted to go to. I got into my two safety schools and I didn't want to go to either of those. And I was like, I'm going to go to SMC. And also I went to Campbell Hall, which in L.A. is one of the, like, top, I mean, private schools. Fancy, schmanty, like Dalton in New York. Fancy, L.A. private school where they tell about the time that teacher. Where they pride themselves on, at a teacher who, who she used to eat a lot paper. Not that one. She ate my animal farm essay. What? She was an animal. You mean $40,000 for teachers who eat paper? Yeah, that's a man. Literally.

It's public school shit. I know. It is. But that's the thing. Where's my composition book? Mrs. Janowitz? It's been digested. Double space.

Sorry. No, Josh, you think you're joking right now, but I'm not even kidding. She had a thing for paper that was so intense that she would actually say like, like, I tried to throw away a piece of construction paper once because we were making cards for kids. And she freaked out because she was like, that's the best kind. Oh. And I was like, she had like paper-eating preferences. It was really a character. But anyway, the fact that you, like, go to school, like Campbell Hall and then don't get into college is very disgraceful.

And my father even said to me one time, he was like, well, what do I tell the guys on the golf course now? And I was like, you know, he's like, because this person's kid is in Africa doing this. And this person's kids over here at Harvard. And I was like, I don't know, dad, tell them that your child is fighting for a parking spot at SMC. Because that's what I was fucking doing. And then I just, no, I left after that. way too overstimulating. Did you go to college? I did. I did. Where'd you go? And I was going to say, I loved college. I don't necessarily think that it is necessary at all right now. Like,

college in general, I think, breeds a worker, right? And depending on what you want to do, you don't need to learn how to be obedient, which really is what school is. If you want to learn things without structure. Like I'm a fan of going and like educating yourself, of course. But like the structure of college, picking a major, only being able to focus on like core studies to then land in a job where you're just making less money than everybody else just seems like such like a weird broken loop that we're in. But yeah, I was pre-dental.

Oh my gosh. I wanted to be a dentist. And then I found out like literally my junior year that the person who I was interning for the dental practice. Like he owned 300 practices. So he wasn't a dentist. He was a fucking businessman that owned dental practices. And the loser is the guy who went to dental school,

who has half of his paycheck taken by the guy that never went to dental school. So it's just like a whole once you're, I'm not anti-college, but like once the wool is pulled over your eyes, depends on what you want to do. If you want to be a doctor, if you want to be a lawyer, of course, go to school. Yeah. But if you want to be anything you want, I think for the most part, like you don't really need it. I don't know. But also Ben did pass out once during a dental exam while he was interning.

Isn't that true? I got up, yeah. It had, weirdly, it had nothing to do with the procedure. But like I did, like, I did walk out of the room, just ass out. I woke up. I was in a wheelchair. He was watching a root canal and it was all over. Oh, done.

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I'm not great at technology. Let's hear from Anonymous. Hi, good guys. My name is Mallory and I am a proud moron. It's our fandom. The morons. My fiance and I are both Jews. So we're going to be hosting. a beautiful Jewish wedding sometime in the next two years. Just want to hear from each of you what your best recommendation is for a wedding and what you would advise against. Looking forward to hearing about it.

Thanks, guys. Bye. COVID, right? Yeah, COVID. The very open-ended question. I don't understand. Her best advice for a wedding? Yes.

I guess so. In general? What's the one key thing to think about when having a wedding? Or just a Jewish wedding. I don't much. Let's just make it all. Okay. Let's be all encompassing Mallory. Wedding.

Quick. Quick. Quick. Get engaged. Get married. Make it quick. Oh, hilarious. You just said quick. Yeah. Do it quick. Do it quickly. Wait. Everybody's going to start to argue. I don't care how great your parents are. I don't care how great you guys are. I don't care how solid you are. If you do that 18-month engagement, you're going to hate each other. Do it in six months. Rip it off and start your life together.

That's my advice. I love that, babe. Have good food. Make sure you have good food. Make sure you have good drinks and make sure that you are really thinking about the guests that you're inviting. Because I think that one of the worst things that can happen is when you go to a wedding. And it's just lagging and long and lengthy. It's like think about what you would want at a wedding as a guest and then plan from there and then put your own personal wedding desires second.

I like that. Totally. I like that too. I would say start a Zelle account because. I don't want things. I want money. And I think that the people and the guests that show up don't buy me things, you know, contribute to the honeymoon fund.

Contribute to, you know, this I'm spending over, well, some people spend a whole lot of money on a wedding. I want to, you know, get reimbursed for that. So except money, not presents. Pay for your play. Exactly. Exactly. You think this seat is free.

And then I think because for the Jewish tone of it, what are we saying? I mean, like have a really great rabbi. Yeah, well, I... Honestly, have a great... It's more the canter. Like, the guy that's singing you down the aisle, like in great Jewish weddings,

they have somebody that is live singing you down the aisle. To have somebody with some good pipes. Make sure they had those three nice warm waters like Raven, clear and clean. You need it. You need the warm. Yes. You need it.

I would also say, if you have 10 people that you're on the fence about inviting, and maybe two or three of them are you're related to, maybe they're like second or third cousins or whatever. We're first. Invite the family over the friends because in 10 years, there's at least a dozen plus people I don't talk to who came to our wedding. But there are some family members who I'm still family with who we weren't talking then,

but we're talking now and I feel bad. And I wish I had just, I wish they had come over those other people. That's fair. Right? Yeah. Just saying. Okay, next one from Anonymous.

Hey, good guys. Huge more on here with a huge. you more on husband. We love listening to your show together in the car. It's just something fun. We get to look forward to doing every week. Settle a debate for us. Is it nuts to think that your wife is not hot? We're talking the other week about the difference between pretty cute and hot. And he said that I, for example, was pretty and cute, but not necessarily hot. Is this nuts? Should I be if I'm bad. I kind of am. I'm not the most voluptuous girl out there, but I don't know. I feel like you should find your partner hot, right? He thinks it's just a dude.

different type of attractiveness. Let us know your thoughts. Thanks, bye. What's happening over here, Ben? I have a shiver down my spine. Buckle up. Like, just lie. Like, what are you nuts? Like, your wife asked her, am I hot? Yes. Yes, you're

hot. I can't even, like, she didn't ask you that so you can say, nah, you're like kind of cute though. Like, she's going to kill herself. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, that's terrible. Sorry. No, hey, it's your opinion. Babe. I sit on both sides. I understand what you're saying and why it is terrible.

And as a girl who has done that before, right? Where you're like, oh, am I hot? And you want your partner to be like, yes. I think that's the appropriate white lie. There is no reason to say no unless your name is Raven and you're so brutally honest. You don't know how to white lie in those situations. So then you as Miranda just have to accept that you're not hot. You're babes.

Babes, you're beautiful. And then you're beautiful and gorgeous. You're beautiful and gorgeous. You know what I think, though, and to that anonymous caller, you can be whatever you think you are, meaning your husband or your partner might only see you through one light that they, they only see you through the eyes that they have. But if you want to be hot, being hot, I think, for like the male gaze is pretty simple. Like, you know that you need to put on like a tighter outfit or you need to like put.

your boobs up or you need to have more of that energy. That is what hot eats, right? So it's like, I think that people can take on different forms and presentations and present themselves differently when they want to as they see fit. Period. No, there's no applause for that. I think that was really well said. And I think on a day to day, like not even the hottest, like, Angelina Jolie, right? People are like, she's so, she is not hot every day. She's not hot every day. And she's It's hot when she's Laura Croft Tomb Raider maybe or when she's Gia or whatever. But like... Yes, or the changeling.

Sorry, probably. But like, she's not necessarily hot when she's sitting and like doing a vanity fair interview. Like, it's such an energy. What do you think, Josh? Yeah, I mean, I once called my wife elegant, which she hated. And I'm like, babe, elegant's going to age so much better. Yeah. And she is so elegant.

Yeah, because I was like, because I think about like, Angela and Julie in that vanity fair interview is elegant. Amal Clooney, there's an elegant. Elegant, she's elegant. It's elevated. She understands that. I think that what she has to understand the caller is that there are like, there are different descriptions of each word, hot, cute, sexy, beautiful, gorgeous elegant. And when you marry someone, I think that's your brain switching off from hot and, oh,

that's a freak over there into like, what do I want to age with? And it is elegance. It is beauty. It's like gorgeousness. It's classic. My wife is classic to me, like classic English. I'm like, oh, I love it. Hot, she has her moments.

Like, when she gets dressed up and I'm like, oh, okay, girl, look it too. You know what I mean? But I think that, you know, I think it's a compliment when someone says something, when someone says you're not hot, you're beautiful. And I took me a while to stop using the word cute because I think my wife is very cute and like, Tinkerbell looking. But she was like, I'm not cute. I'm like, you're fucking cute.

You might even be cute. You might even be Kiyah. Yeah. No, I think it's also, it's just... Remember you hated that? Remember you hated that? Yeah, but that was like a me issue, right? So I would say to this caller too. It's like, the reason cute was hard for me to handle was because I didn't want to be cute. I wanted someone to be like, wow, Miranda, you're so pretty. Like, you're so beautiful. I wanted that. And cute then felt like it was like, kind of like, oh, you're cute. And I just when you say it like that, it's different. I think that if any, I don't know, just don't ask your husband shit like that also. Yeah, don't trap them either. Because it's a trap. That's a thing too. And like, he knows. He knows. He's a thing too. And like, he's not. He. He. He. He. He He needs to know how to get out of the trap, though. That's what I was saying from the beginning. Your wife asks you, am I hot? Yes. Of course you're hot.

Like, I just, I can't even imagine wanting to send her down that spiral. Like, that's also about being a good partner. That is. You don't ask, am I hot because you want somebody to say, no, you're pretty. This is true. It's a trap. You asked it. It's a trap.

So just, no, it's a trap. But get out of the trap. Don't eat the cheese. But I also really like the fact that you're saying, like, you don't want to send your partner down that spiral, which means that you would then have the emotional awareness to also understand that maybe your partner needs a little reassurance or a little validation or has felt a little insecure about her appearance for X, Y, and Z. And you can put her at ease by just being like, yeah, baby, you are. Like, there's for sure a reason she asks. Exactly.

Exactly. And even if you don't know the reason, I think that what you're speaking to is really beautiful in partnership because that would mean that you have the awareness to go, my partner is asking this for a reason and I don't have to give my opinion in a real way. We don't need to have a dialogue around her attractiveness. Like, she just needs that little moment

of a boost. I can give it to her. But, and be self-aware. If you're asking if you're hot to your partner, don't be wearing like Tiva sandals. I was literally thinking that. I was like, don't, yeah. Don't give me a reason to lie to you right now.

It's got a good day. Yeah. Skinny day. Ask after a stomach flu. You know, I'm hot. Let me pick this throat. When you still maybe have a temperature, so someone's like, yeah, you're not lying.

And you can be strategic with the way you answer. Like my son, when he was one years old, his pediatrician, instead of calling him fat, called him robust. Oh, I like fluffy. Yeah. I'm warm and fluffy. Yeah.

She was like, wow, he's robust. I was like, I used to be too. I got a TV show. Oh, my God. Period. Oh, my God. Barian. Barian.

Should we go to What Do You Nuts, Ben? Okay, yeah. We'll give you guys a second to think. Our final segment on the show is called What Are You Nuts? It's your gripes with people, places, and things. Big and small, whatever's currently sticking in your craw. Nothing too big, nothing too small, random, anything works. Take your time.

Ben and I will start it, Ben, after you good, sir. I'm done with going on an Uber Eats, a Grubhubhub, and being catfished by somebody that made a beautiful looking wreaths. restaurant, okay? I order this beautiful Chinese. The freaking photos are out of this world that shows up. It's slop. I've had enough with these ghost kitchens and being catfished by these restaurants. What do you nuts? Like Uber, find a way to vet that this is a legitimate establishment. It can't have 4.9 stars and 5,000 reviews if it's out of this person's apartment and then it shows up and it's terrible. Takeout has gone astray. What do you know?

nuts. God bless. My Woody You Nuts moment is my son is now playing Little League. It's very cute. But the truth is, these parents, they are packing like they're going camping in Yosemite. They got the folding chair, coolers with every beverage, first aid kits, the things, the blankets, like umbrellas. What are you nuts? It's an hour. He sucks. Your kid stinks. You want to be so comfortable watching your kid missing easy, you know, throw to first base. What are you nuts? They're nuts. They're nuts.

Babe. No. Take your time. No rush. No, no rush. The dumber, the better. Yeah, I'm trying to get there. Okay, I'll go.

And you guys tell me if this is enough. This pissed me off so much. I just came back from Atlanta. And I brought this clock back from my grandma's house, which I've been eyeing since I was like three years old. grandma, rest of peace, grandpa's house. And the clock weighs about 50 pounds. No joke. No heaviest. And so I was like, okay, do I ship it on FedEx or do I take it on the plane? People like, if you take it on the plane, you know, at least you're holding. And I'm like, yeah, but then I'm going to have to pay. Right? Sure. Because you can't go over 50 pounds on the plane. And I'm like, what is happening? Okay.

So I was like, I'll bring it to the airport. They don't weigh it. They don't even want to pick it up when I ask for it because it's a check bag. I mean, it's a bring on the plane back. So what are you nuts, you're charging me all this money for an oversized bag when I check it, but I can bring the same amount or heavier on the plane itself. So what are you actually charging me for? Are you giving the money to the people because they have to lift this heavy thing? Or is it for gas and fuel, which is what I thought it was? It pissed me off. It makes me go, okay, so if I bring two 100-pound suitcases on the plane, I get to go through with all my stuff. My wife brought a suitcase full of potatoes once. We'll get into that later. And they... Wow. It was another conversation. But she had to pay. And I was so...

We could have brought it on the plane, babe. What are you nuts? I actually didn't have to pay because you made me open the suitcase in the middle of trying to check it and then rearrange everything and move bags and things. You brought potatoes, honey, so...

Whatever I asked you to do after doesn't count. That's not. It doesn't matter. But I'm just saying... We didn't have to end up paying because you made me move all the stuff. I think it's ridiculous. Now that I know that you can bring whatever, at least 75 kilograms I think it is on the plane, you don't have to pay you guys.

Hack, you're welcome. What do you nuts? What do you nuts? What are you nuts? So good. Okay, so here's my what are you nuts. We recently bought a house and we've been redecorate or not redecorating, decorating.

And furniture is crazy expensive. It's crazy expensive. And we're trying to do this thoughtfully and make, you know, smart choices and make the right purchases. And I have to tell you that almost every piece of furniture that has arrived to our home has been damaged, has been broken. And I'm talking, when you're spending like thousands, thousands of dollars on a table, I expect that table to arrive perfectly.

If I'm spending thousands of dollars on a dining room fucking chair, because my wife thinks that it is super comfortable and fits her well. I'm not the chair on the table. You're the chair. Whatever. Don't interrupt the story. I was just cruising. Just be here.

We have to spend all that money because she loves this chair and it comes damaged. We have a problem. So my thing is, is everyone just making things on the cheap cheap and then hiking it all the way up up and then we're all just paying it? Yes, because we're all nuts. Yes, we are. Totally. What are you nuts? What are you nuts?

We've also never ordered furniture that arrived not broken. So I think that's like a universal thing. That furniture always arrives broken. I don't know. I think the person, the white glove service, they don't give a shit. They're just chucking it, throwing it into the truck. No care. But those are great what are your nuts is nuts.

So good. I need to hear about the potatoes quickly. Before we wrap, why were you bringing potatoes on the plane? What are you nuts? Yes, actually. I am for potatoes. So I really love purple sweet potatoes. They are my favorite.

They're very good for you. I eat them several times a week. And unfortunately, the places we travel don't have them. So I have to go to Airwan or go to sprouts and get all my purple sweet potatoes and bag in bags. This trip was really fun because it was my mom, her, and me. And my mom, she knows my wife, but she didn't know my wife packed potatoes. And so I'm loving, she's like, hey, why are you caring all the bags?

I'm like, no, don't worry about it, mom. We get there. She opens it. She goes, is that a fucking potato? And the thing that was really frustrating was... Your mom's like, there better be Coke in there. This better be a decoy. Otherwise, it's very nerdy.

I had packed so beautifully. Like, everything was so nicely done and organized. And then we're in the middle of the airport. And Ravens, like, throwing open the back, move this potato. Hand me this. Putting my potatoes in her backpack and taking my thing. I was like, oh. Okay.

I know, I'm sorry, babes. I'm sorry about that, but we got through. You guys, my question to you is we got through. Packing. I am a psycho when it comes to pack. I need it to be neat and beautiful and placed. And my wife is now, too, like the little, not is now. I always have been out.

That's why I love you. How are you guys? Are you guys like big packers? Like even when I have to pack the car, I'm like, babes, it's Tetris. Let me do it. Yeah. Now that you have kids, how's your packing skills? Yeah, you have to get them perfectly packed and they need their sound machine.

and their books and their things. So that, like, it's a week-out process. And you're slowly adding on. And then you incorporate them into it. My son, Max, loves to pack. Me, it's a carry-on. I know my things. It's so easy.

I took a carry-on to Europe for two weeks. Oh, my God. I do everything I can to not check. That must be a child star, have-to-go-quick type thing. Because whatever. Probably. Or just a Josh and Raven thing. It could be.

Just can't connect to anything, really. Not really. I'll buy it when I get there. Bone well and keys. I can buy anything else. I'll be good anywhere. Then take us home and please. I was going to say, so Raven Miranda, plug anything.

Like what, I know there's tea time, but what else? Anything we want to talk about? Well, please watch and listen to Tea Time, which is on YouTube and anywhere else you might get your podcasts. What else, babes? You can check me out on Scrabble on the CW and I'm writing a book. Ooh, amazing. And all of our socials are our name.

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