Good Guys - THE KNICKS ARE CHAMPIONS

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

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back to the Good Guys podcast. Guys, we are doing our best to be a little bit more topical. We really are. We're doing our best. And by the way, it's coming. It's coming like in waves. But we wanted to put a little something at the front because Josh, my God, are we just sheping machas over here, over the New York Knicks winning the championship?

And I can't explain it, Josh. I haven't processed that they've won yet. they've won the championship. We're recording after they've won the championship. When we went to Game 4, Claudia and I were there, Game 4, this was the greatest, I feel bad saying it was the greatest night of my life

because I got married and I have a son. This was the greatest night of my life. I don't even know, I've never felt that level of dopamine in my whole life. It's like you're watching a Disney Channel original movie, Josh, and you're watching, you're like, that's not going to fucking happen. What do you mean?

They're down 40 at the half and they win on a buzzer beater? Yeah, that's exactly what happened. They were down 29 and they effectively won on a buzzer beater at home at the garden. Me and Claudia, it was completely insane. So I felt I left that game like, oh my God, we won something. I didn't know what we won. Like, yeah, I guess we just won the game and technically we didn't win the championship, but it certainly felt like we won the championship that night.

then this weekend I went to upstate New York to my brother-in-law's house we watched the game they won the championship I didn't feel Josh what I felt after game four does that make sense I felt it it's amazing but the championship was won in my eyes on the OG Ananobe tip-in in game four and then we got to watch a jalen brunson masterpiece 45 points in a close-out playoff game the only other person Josh You know the only other person who's done that in basketball? Airbud. Michael Airbud. Close.

Air Jordan. Josh. Right. It's Jalen Brunson and Michael fucking Jordan. My God. You know, yeah, but you know what Jalen Brunson hasn't done? What? Turn down a bunch of teenagers for a photo.

And that's why he's the goat. He's the goat. He's the goat. He's the goat. He's, did you see? Michael Jordan, who gives zero fuck. Yeah, he gives no fucks at all. He's just like, M.J. isn't just, him and Tiger Woods are just like off to the side as like these guys that can just do no wrong.

They're goats and he can't touch him. Yeah. He can't touch him. If my son asked Michael Jordan for a photo and he came to me and he was like, Dad, I saw Michael Jordan. He said no to a photo. I'd say, what did you do, son? Yeah, I would say, why the fuck are you bothering the goat? Yeah.

Why? You're asking him for a photo. He's like God. You don't ask God for a photo. If you happen to be fortunate enough to just like pop up in a photo next to God, that's cool. You don't ask God for a photo. Yeah. Michael was busy shooting dice in a back alley, I'm sure.

Definitely. He is a terribly addicted gambler with a terrible drinking problem that definitely has lung disease. That's my goat. That's my goat. That's my goat. Absolutely. Unapologetic. Oh.

Well, I'm so happy for you. I've realized that I'm allergic to joy. Because the moment the Knicks won, I went, bleh. I just can't do it. All right. Well, I'll draw it in for you. Just this comparison I loved.

The only other person who has declined taking pictures with the Larry O'Brien trophy before they got it. Besides Jalen Brunson, you know who it was? Kobe. Kobe. Mamba mentality. It's fucking right.

Rest in peace. To the legend. I think there's definitely a chance I get a Kobe tattoo before I die. If I get a Kobe tattoo, would you get a small Jalen? I would tell you that I did. Definitely. Is it really a Jew thing? It's definitely ingrained in my brain as just like my grandma telling me no.

But it's also, I just. don't think I'm cool enough yet. Maybe, maybe in 10 years I'll be cool enough. Right now, I'm just like not that kind of cool. That said, if you get Kobe, I want K-O on your left-ass cheek and B-E on your right. What do you think about that? I think that sounds great, but also, like, what about, then technically you shouldn't get your ears pierced or anything like that, right? Which I'd be disqualified anyway. But, you know, the Jewish al-Ladies, they all have ears. Yeah, yeah. You know the way that I am with picking and choosing. I think that the reason why ear pierces, we would have to bring a rabbi on the podcast to truly know.

I think that the holes technically, I know they don't always technically are supposed to close up. No, they, not technically. Not after like a year or two. I still have mine. I'll pop in an earring every now and then just to remember. Okay. I need you to pop in an earring next. But we need to ask somebody, need to ask Rabbi, why earrings are chill.

I don't know, Josh. I don't know. That said, I want you get a Kobe tattoo. I'm actually now thinking, and this is how we're going to end it on this grotesque comment, you're going to go, K on the left, butt cheek, and then B.E on the right. And then when you spread your ass, it turns into an O. Or it'll just look like, it'll be, I'll spread my ass and they'll be like, oh, wow, he's got a Kobe tattoo. And then I spread, and they go, oh, no, it says Cuba Day.

All right. So here's, we're going to go back in time right now. Enjoy this way too much sports next episode. We warned you already, but we wanted to give you a little context. This is a sports heavy episode. We are men, biologically, at least in spirit. We are women, women, women. But we love you guys, and this is going to be a fun ride.

Enjoy bye. Mazumorans, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. Oh, Josh. I am exhausted. Okay? Yeah. I'm exhausted. These games are starting at 8.30.

They're taking everything out of me. Which games, Ben? What games do you praise you? talk about what games um i guess like the the world cup is here i there's i'm really into um women's uh women's hockey is women's hockey going on now um women's hockey i really like um preseason w nba i think that's happening a little bit now like the sparks are playing the there's some curling going on i'm sure in the lancoba the links the links the links curling um no the fucking nix holy shit Oh my God.

It literally it just sits in me. It's dormant. And then all of a sudden it just erupts through my esophagus. And I can't fucking breathe. I can't breathe. I, uh, okay. Backing it up, you tell me when I'm boring. No, game one.

Game one. I go to San Antonio. I was invited by the great Tyler Cameron. When I'm, no, you, you, reset the scene. You were invited by the great Mikulob Ultra. Give me, I want. Okay. Deets.

I want to be brought along. I want to feel like I'm there. Okay, okay. Okay. I want it all. We're going deep. Okay. The Great Barry Rosen from WME calls you.

Yes. Go. She says. And she says, Michael of Ultra is going to take you and Tyler Cameron to the Knicks game. And I said, what do you mean? She's like, The New York Knicks and Michael of Ultra are chartering a private plane with New York Knicks

Legends, get to Newark the morning of game one, and get ready to have the night of your life. I show up to Newark. Were you like, can we do JFK? I was like, can you do PBI? I'm in Florida. I was in Florida. I flew from Florida to Newark, 6 a.m. flight, get there. And I meet Tyler Cameron, who is just, I don't think you've met him, Josh.

He's just the nicest guy. He's a good guy. He's the greatest. And I see him. I believe that. And I definitely know who that is. Okay. He's not even like, he's not even a big Nick fan.

He's like, I don't know why I'm here. But he's here with me. We're along for this ride. We get to, uh, there's like a little, they made like Josh, like some Nick's donuts and beautiful pastries. And you can have some michelopes and some beautiful seltzers and whatever you want. By the way, Nicolob Ultra and A beer is one of my faves. First of all, it's like water. And also like it goes down easy.

I'm not just saying this because they hooked up my bend and didn't hook me up zero, not at all. But also 29 calories. Like, let me tell you, Josh. They're now going to hook you up. Pay this man. Work with this man. It's delicious. And Josh, they must.

I can't even imagine how much money they have. This is, this is Josh. Like the dream is to own a brand like Mickalob and be able to bring people on experiences like this. because this is what builds a brand. The brand, Mickelope made this experience for me. I will never forget them. They chartered an entire Delta flight. The whole plane is, it's like JP Morgan executives,

some fans that won like tickets. It's me, Tyler, I guess, like some other, like creators, like Die Hard Nick fans. And then Walt Clyde Fraser and Henrik Lunquist, when you walk onto the plane, they're just sitting in first class 1A, 1B. They're giving speeches on the plane, pumping us up. They're like, the Knicks, it's destiny. Clyde's like we haven't won since

73, but I've been to diehard. I'm your guy. I love that you guys have rallied around me as the guy, but it's this next time. It's their time to shine. We land in San Antonio. And I was texting with my friend Scooter Braun, and I was like, Scooter, we want to meet up for the game. Come meet me at this bar. It's Walt Frazier. John Starks. He's like, dude, I'm there. My brother and father, who I'm going with, don't land for two hours. I'll come meet you. Now, tell me if this is some dickhead shit. Yeah.

But the great Dan Cruz, my dear friend, whom I love so much, current big, big maher at UCLA, he texts me a picture of you in the great Scooter Braun, and he goes, oh, that's amazing that bends there, so cool. How does he know Scott? And I said, who's Scott? and he goes, the guy in the picture with Ben. And I go, Scooter?

And he goes, no, Josh. I call him Scott because he's a grown man. Okay. That is amazing. Yeah, I guess, like, I call him Scooter. I think that if you're, I think that nicknames, especially big public nicknames. Like if you're a newer friend, you call them by that.

I guess like his OGs would call him Scott. Like somebody like, my macha tunum would call me Benjamin, I guess. But he's Scooter. Like I'm not, like, I don't know him as Scott. That is so funny, though. So he comes Josh. He meets me and he shows up upset. By the way, I haven't told this story.

I have not told the story publicly. Amazing. He shows up upset. And I'm like, Scooter, what's wrong? He's like, dude, you're never going to fucking believe it. My dad and brother were flying privately on a friend's plane and it got grounded at Tietaburro. They're not coming. I'm like, what?

It's like, yeah, at least 10 planes were grounded at Titoboro leaving. That's the private airport in New Jersey going to the private airport in San Antonio. By the way, it may sound extra. What a bitch it is to get to San Antonio. Okay. This is not Dallas. This is not Austin. Very difficult.

if there are any nonstop flights, maybe there's one a day at a time that does not work to get to a basketball game. And when the great Charles Barkley says that the only thing in San Antonio is Churros and big women, he's not joking. Okay, there's nothing there. There's nothing in San Antonio.

I'm going to just sound like Shaq. It's big women and churots. No, I don't know. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. And he's like, they were grounded. I have like one friend that's coming and meeting me, but I have two extra tickets.

I know you already have tickets. It might be a huge imposition, but I really don't want to sit alone. Do you mind sitting with me? And I played it super cool in the moment. I'm like, dude, like, no problem. Like, I don't want you to just sit alone. And inside me, I'm freaking the fuck out.

Because I know that wherever he's sitting is obviously significantly better than wherever I was sitting. Right. And again, shout at Michael O'Oltra. Shout at the Knicks. You took me there. It was going to be a great game.

But instead of being in the corner, row 30, I was five fucking rows behind center court. Like I was full-blown court side. And Adam Silver was in my row. Bob Eiger was in my row. And I watched what I thought at the time was the greatest game in Nick's history. This is in such a high intensity environment. The Knicks showed up and they won on the road.

And then they won on the road again. And then Josh, yeah, please. Tell me this. I want to understand, and I realize that a lot of the celebrities from New York are traveling to the away games. Yes. Why in San Antonio, no shade on San Antonio, but certainly a little easier to get a ticket if you're a celebrity than New York, just because there's such a concentration. Yes. You're Bob Eiger, the chairman of Disney, one of the most powerful people on earth.

You're, I guess, yeah, Adam Silver, the commissioner. But I guess you don't usually see the commissioners sitting courtside. But your Scooter Braun, your Bob Eiger, you're the great Ben Soffer celebrity. I'm including you in this. But why aren't they courtside? Why aren't you guys courtside? So I think that, well, one, I ended up sitting next to this guy who was high up at Paramount. And he had a courtside seat.

He was wearing a Bernard King jersey. And they said, if you're going to sit here, you have to take that off. I've heard that. And he said, then I'm going to sit somewhere else. Please resit me. Like,

please rezone me. And he came and he sat coincidentally next to me. Respect. I was across from Shane Gillis, who was sitting courtside, wearing a Chili's T-shirt. And I know he was rooting for the Knicks. It was just Chili's.

Like, you could not be in fan gear to watch the game. Now, Adam's Chalemay and Stiller there? Or no. Second row. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.

Behind the next bench. Second row. I think that it would be a little, I think that I understand why Adam Silver wouldn't sit courtside. I feel like executives don't ever sit court side. They sit the first, like, they sit in great seats. Unless you're Ari Emanuel at the garden. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, NBA executives is what I meant. Bob Iger could have definitely sat court side. I guess that he was just invited by Silver. And they were just like sitting together. and talking about whatever monster deal they have in the works. I can't even imagine.

But yeah, this was, this was at the time, I thought, like, the high of highs in sports. And do you fly home commercial? Flew home commercial in the morning. Oh, San Antonio. Okay, okay. So they offered it last night, Josh. They offered it. They said, like, you can fly back.

Tell me what you would have done. Okay, you tell me, I could have flown back on the same plane that I flew there on that Delta flight. It leaves at midnight, gets in at 4.30 in the morning. I had to go back to Florida. So I then would have gotten on another flight back to Florida, landed in Florida at 9 in the morning, having not slept at all. Or sleep in San Antonio at the wonderful Cyprus. What a beautiful hotel. loved it. Part of Marriott, not expensive, $300.

On the night of a game, by the way, lovely hotel, wake up, took an 730 connecting flight through DFW landed at 12. In Florida. In Florida. And I got six hours, six, seven hours. I got enough sleep. First of all, absolutely the right move. How, I mean, if you take that private jet to Newark, how are you going to meet a wonderful

San Antonio prostitute at the airport bar at 11. Correct. I never would have. I never would have. Never. I wouldn't have any churros. I would have had nothing. Nothing.

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the 90s. So much color. Josh, they don't, they sell merch on bulletin boards. Hell yeah. They don't even have stores. It's like you're at like a 200 person concert, but it's where the Spurs play. And the fans are so nice. I did almost get in a fight with one fan. We do something, let me ask you this. We're very patriotic in New York. We love our country. But during the national anthem, at pauses, we scream, let's go next. It's just something that we do. It's not disrespectful in our eyes. When there's a low, it's, I'm trying to think of like the exact moment. Whatever. When there's a low, we scream, let's go, Nix.

And everybody cheers. Hold on. Let me try. I'm going to give you a ball. Oh, say, can you see? By the dawn's early life, but there's going to leave me a half with the John's this evening. Here, ready? And the rocket

red glare. Lull. It was right. I think it was right before that. Do it and then get to that. Okay. Oh, say, can you see by the dawn's early light What's up early we have Had the twilight's last gleaming

Let's go next! Oh, my God! I would have fought you too. What the hell did that Jew say? I was literally that. freaking hey, bro. This mother fucker. Literally said to him,

I was like, I mean no disrespect. This is just what we do in New York. And he had it on me. He got pissed. What did he do? He just, like, looked at me and said something. He's like, you're so disrespect. Whatever this is before the game started.

Then, like, the Knicks went on a quick run. I think Wemby, like, blocked the shot, and he looked at me. And he went like this. He stuck out his elbow. and I could see his armpit. I don't even know what he was doing, but I was like, nice armpit, man.

Sweet armpit. And he didn't talk to me the rest of the game. And once we won, the people around him were like, it's very clear how much you wanted this. Congrats. Like, Nick's fans deserve it. You guys showed up.

Congrats. And that guy just walked out, didn't say a fucking word. Whoa. That bald, probably nice Patriot that just we got into a scuffle. You can't go wrong not doing anything but standing completely still during the National Anthem. And I, but you tell me because like I would be, I don't know why I don't put my hand over my heart during the National Anthem.

It feels infantilized. Like I don't know. I feel like a little kid, even though I can completely respect. And I have massive, obviously, deep respect for the national anthem for our troops, for our wonderful country. So I just stand with my hands like in front of me like this, like class and at attention standing fully and make sure always my kids are quiet and respectful. But like I've seen, I think they got mad at Michael Strayhan once on TV for going like this instead of hand over heart. What do you think? I think that if you're wearing a hat, you're going to go hand over heart.

You take it off and it kind of goes on your chest. Like you wear it kind of like that. But if you have no hat on, you can do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want if you don't have a hat on. Like I don't, this, this is too much for me. Me too. This is, this is very close to this. This is very.

This is too much. Like, I don't. Do you wish, I don't, I know you don't have the same desire that I have that. The only regret I have in life was that I wasn't in the service. Like I, I wish I had done like six years in the military. But I've never spoke. talking about this. I really do.

Your greatest wish, by the way, could, could you not, like, could you not do a light stint? At 40, that's like a movie. By the way, last night was a movie. We'll get to that. But I'm just saying last night was a Disney Channel original that was so unbelievably unrealistic and somehow happened. So I'm just saying the 40-year-old combat warrior, it could happen.

First of all, I think the age cut off to enlist is 38. not that I've looked into it. And then, yeah, but the problem is I have to go to basic training and be away from my family. It's also something not to be done at that age. It's something to do at 18 when your frontal cortex isn't fully formed and you're with like a bunch of like young idiots going hard. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting though, because you're in, I think you'd say the best physical ignition of your life. I think you're only getting better every day.

And if you went in at 18, you probably wouldn't have been anywhere near where you are today. Yeah, at 25, I was doing CrossFit and just met Page and I was fucking hot. And like that, probably that would have been the time to go. That would have been the time. Okay. I just feel like now your muscles McGee, your muscles on muscles. Oh, God bless you. So.

Too kind. Yeah, I've, maybe I'd be the chef in the army, but I've never had a real urge to, uh, to be out there and I just, I want to help, but I don't think that I'm of help with a gun in the field. But I do think I'm of help giving you a sloppy Joe or maybe even like stitching up a wound. Okay. Like, like I'm here. I'm back a house. I'm back a house.

But I do want to be there. It would be an incredible honor to be able to do something like that. Yeah. when I trained with these Navy SEALs, I was like, what made you want to be a seal? And they were like, well, I knew I wanted to be in the Navy. And so if I didn't go to Special Forces, it would have meant that I'd have to be on an aircraft carrier or even worse in a submarine for nine months at a time. Oh, my God. They were like, I couldn't do it.

I've never even thought of a submarine for nine months at a time. Sometimes they're down that far because they run on nuclear. energy so they can kind of stay down there indefinitely. That is so insane. I was in an elevator yesterday for 60 seconds, a high speed elevator at this new avenue. If you remember that club reopened, shout out Marquis Group.

And it was like the opening. I went before the Nick game at the edge. It's like this new, it's on the 100th floor at Hudson Yards. And their claim is it takes 59 seconds to go 100 floors. and let me tell you I was panicking, panicking. That's a lot. That's one minute.

Nine months in a submarine. I'm claustrophobic also. I think that's part of what it is. Like, I really do not like tight spaces without the knowledge of when I'm getting out. I get very hot, very flustered very quickly. It's the only thing that's like that for me. Chlostrophobia is very real for me. Tight spaces.

I sometimes see people swimming through these. like creators. I'm like, are you, you're not worried that you're gonna fucking stuck num stow?

It just happened in the Maldives. Oh, there you go. Like, yeah, sadly, like six scuba divers died going through a cavern and it got weird.

But, but like you, I believe you have claustrophobia, but you live in New York. So to an extent you've, you've adapted or are able to keep it in check because you're in an elevator, probably I would imagine, every single day.

And like my mother-in-law is, shout out the great Stacey O'Brien, is so claustrophobic that she will avoid elevators at any cost. So we stayed at the great level apartments in Vancouver a year and a half ago. Shout out the level. It's great. If you're going to Vancouver, check it out. So we're staying there and we went for a family trip for like five days. And we were on the 14th floor and her and I took the stairs multiple times

because she was like, if there's not a reason where we need. need to get up there immediately. Do you mind if we just take, like, like, and always down and then sometimes up? And I was like, yeah, let's do this. It's got a workout. Got it. So, yeah, I am, I'm not claustrophobic in that sense. If I know that there is, if I know that I'm not in danger, for sure.

And I know when and if I'm getting out of the situation, I'm not afraid at all. I could stand right up next to you in a very tight space. if I have a clock knowing when it's going to end and I can get out. But that fear of an elevator stops. You're in a scary building. You don't know if the elevator, like you're not in one world trade. You're in like this rickety 12 floor.

You think it might drop, which is an unrealistic thought. But that's when I do get scared. And it gets hot and I make myself hot. But yeah, no, regular routine. No, I'm not, I'm not claustrophobic. So tell me about last night. So cut to they lose the first game in New York.

So now it's 2-1 New York Knicks. Last night was maybe one of the greatest games in NBA, the greatest game in NBA finals history. Go Ben. Sorry if you don't like sports, morons. Yeah, no, you definitely. But this is bigger than sports. This is pop culture.

This is a thing. This is bigger than sports. Taylor Swift was there, all this stuff. But going back, a step. If I didn't go to San Antonio, I probably wouldn't have gone to this game at the Garden. I met a lovely man at Madison Square Garden named Brett, who runs the alumni program. And I was talking to him and he's like, you want me to submit for face value tickets for you. I'm like, there's a bear shit in the woods. Like, yeah, please. And Claudia had been trying to

surprise me Father's Day present for like the last week looking for tickets. We're not, like, it's not a Father's Day present. for her to spend an ungodly amount of money. That doesn't make me feel good, right? I don't want to go to a game and spend $30,000. It's disgusting. Like, that's the price of, it can change somebody's life. So I wanted to go under the right circumstances.

And in the interest of transparency, I ended up spending $5,400 total for two tickets last night. Which is, unreal for that kind of game. Unreal for that kind of game. Unreal. So I go to the game. We get there and... So this guy calls you and says you're in?

You got... Yes. You got them. Yes. You got them. Check your ticket master account. You got them. Holy crap.

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I ate them so quickly. Shout out Jason Strauss. Delish. I was stress eating. I couldn't do it. I got back in. I had purchased earlier in the game like $250 and just t-shirts. I bought every single Nix finals t-shirt I could get my hands on.

And I was like, something's got to fucking change. I took off the windbreaker I was wearing. I took off the shirt I was wearing. I put on a new new t-shirt. Did you change your t-shirt? Did you go bare chest at your seat or do it in the bathroom? No, I did the fat man move, which every fat man knows how to do. You layer you put one t-shirt over the other one and you get your arms out and you squiggle it out

and you pull it out through your armpit. You know that move. Sure, yeah. Women do it with a bra. You know that move. Yeah, of course. Big fatso move. Correct.

Big fatso move. BF. And I really should have just, I think if Claudia wasn't there, I would have just taken off my shirt. You would have been too embarrassed. You're right. She would have been there. She would have been mortified.

And I came back in and this kid next to me. The people around me were hilarious. Like as the refs were making bad calls, I heard one of them say, the fix is in like the California election. The guy behind me was like, what are these refs paid for by Mom Donnie? It was hysterical. And all of a sudden we just all buckled in and I think believed a little.

And we just kept saying if we can cut this thing from 29 points to 15 by the start of the fourth quarter, we have a chance. We got it to 15. Then it was like if we can cut this thing to 10 by six minutes, we have a chance. Somehow we go up one. Josh Hart misses a wide open layup. We're freaking out. We're freaking out.

We're going to lose. And then the unthinkable happens. Brunson stays clutch and O.G. Ananoby, who not enough people talk about, will be written in the history books as one of the greatest Knicks of all time, has a LeBron-esque chase down block. We've been talking about that LeBron finals block, that call by Mike Breen, blocked by LeBron. We've been talking about that for a decade. And now we're going to talk about it with O.G. Anobie. And he comes down on the other side, Brunson misses the three. He goes and he tips it in. It was, it is seared in my memory. It was, it was the greatest. it was the greatest sporting event anybody could ask for. I really think I can't name a greater sporting event in sports. Down 29 in game four of the NBA finals. I don't know where it goes on the level of like Patriots Falcons when Tom Brady was down 24 and they came back and won.

It's like it's so unfathomable. And that's what's so amazing about sports that when you ride or die for a team and you, the Knicks fucking sucked for so long. Now, by the way, Josh, if they don't fucking win this championship. Oh, my God. It would be, it would be the Knicks being nixing. It would be the Knicks being nixing, which is exactly what we were saying last night the whole time. We were like so classic, we go up 2.0, we're going to lose in six.

Like, that's just the Knicks. And, yeah, it would be so Nix to lose this series in seven. Can we LGG real quick? Yes. All right. Let's get gay. All right. Let's talk about the celebrities. All right.

So let's talk about these people, court said. I mean, look, in the New York Post, and he is an epic legendary troll of the highest order, and we love him for it. And God, God bless him. We love our Dave Portnoy. Portnoy. Portnoy savagely blasts each and every, in quotes.

This is his quote, obnoxious a list for a Nick Celebrity Row. I hate them all. You know, it's funny coming from a Boston fan who are noted for their, their ability in which to restrain themselves. But yeah, I don't know. What do you think about all these celebrities?

What do we think of the celebrities? Obviously, Queen Taylor was there. Larry David, Seinfeld, I can't tell you how many of my friends. I got three different people texting me going, the Sandman's there. I go, who is? I had chat Chavit go, I said, Sandler. That's a celebrity.

I was like, who's a celebrity whose nickname is Sandman? I'm like thinking about Metallica, like enter the Sandman. Lariano Rivera. Yeah, there's a lot. I was like, what the fuck? And then I saw him there. I'm like, and I was like, oh, you're under the basket. Like, why don't you have better seats?

And why didn't Scott have better seats? Scott Braun and Sidney, like it's wild. It's a lot. It's fun to watch. And yet I kind of feel like I'm mixed on my celebrity feelings about this. finals. What do you feel? I think that game three last game that I wasn't at was a Shonda. DJ Khalid sitting front row on his phone texting like the Manning brothers like this was Jeter. Jeter who hasn't been to a I don't think he's been to Madison Square Garden in 30 years.

He lives he works for the Marlins. Yeah. I just like and I know he. He was a, look, one of the most iconic Yankees of all time. Yeah, shout out. The best. It felt very, very, very fake fan, celebrity row game three. It just felt that way. You had Trump, who diehard fan, you had Mom Dhani says he's a diehard fan. Trump, he's nowhere near the court.

Trump got really booed at MSG, right? That's pretty wild. I heard, I don't, I heard that it was definitely mixed. I heard it sounded worse on TV than it was in person. But I'm sure he got booed. Like New Yorkers are, we'll get to the end. But New Yorkers are are not shy about their feelings whatsoever. And when they disagree with something, they're loud.

But that game three was just, it was different. Game four, these were diehard fucking fans. This celebrity row, Larry David, die hard, like Jerry Seinfeld, die hard. Mariska Hargatee. Die hard. She's a diehard fan. Taylor Swift, I think is a diehard fan. I looked up. She went to Cleveland. God bless her. She is. I'll tell you. Yeah, she went to Cleveland. Travis Kelsey was there wearing a maroon hat for the calves. She was wearing black. And that's what you do in Cleveland when you don't want to root for the calves. That's what we just said about Celebrity Row that you can't wear opposing fan gear.

She wasn't wearing calves clothes. She showed up in, I thought it was super cool Stevie Nicks. They made like cute fun shirts. I don't know. I loved it all. I really did. Timothy Shalamay. By the way, Kylie Jenner,

she's a super fan. She's going to every fucking game, whether or not she's being dragged by him or not. At this point, it's a lot of games. I think that if I asked Claudia, who's a real fan to go courtside every game, zero shot.

That's crazy. She would go to one. game, two games. Every game on the road? She'd go every. Josh, on the road, on the road? She'd go. Would Paige go on the road?

If we didn't have three kids. Yeah. Kylie has how many kids? I know, but for celebrity, like, celebrities are different. I guess. They've got staff. I know, but it doesn't mean that you don't feel bad about it. Whatever.

It just, it felt like Celebrity Row was well curated. That's funny. Like what's the equation when you're that level of famous having like two or three kids? Like it's actually like negative one. Yeah. Literally. Literally. How much help and like options you have?

Yeah. It just depends. Like how much time do you want to spend with them? Peach and I don't even have a reliable babysitter. Like we have an amazing family where like we can enlist her mom or dad or sometimes her sister maybe once a month. If that. Oh my God.

Like for a nighttime thing. Like we really got to get. We need a better. network. We haven't seen each other in years. You're going to love this, Josh. Last night, my dad, the great Bruce Offer, watched Ruby's sleep while we were at the Knicks game. And it's 845. The game has started. And he is, and he is FaceTiming me. Rubin's wheezing. There's a wheeze. Is this a snore or a wheeze? Benjamin, he's grinning in his sleep. It's a door. He's melting me, Benjamin. I wish it was that.

It's Benjamin. I can't turn on the TV. I need help turning on the Knitgame. I'm like, Dad, I can't do this. Please call Maddie. My sister, please call her. And then I feel bad for saying that's him. So I FaceTime him.

And he's instead of showing me the TV, he's showing me himself. He's showing me himself. I can't see the TV. I'm at the garden. I'm there. I'm there. Thank God he figured it out. And then it was this classic beautiful text that he sends me.

Come on, boys. Let's go towns. That town. Come on, boys. Let me read you. Let me read you what he texted me last night. I love this cat. This cat is so good.

I'm usually a dog person, but I like cats. Oh, my God. That's so wonderful that he watched the great Rubin while you guys were enjoying the game. Yeah, he sent me a picture of Ruby and wrote, he's such a good boy. Then he said, what did A&T AT&T pay for that commercial holy shit that's what I'm talking about

come on boys who won I get fucking Who won An An Anogly Yes sir I can get on the Wi-Fi I think I thought your toaster was a router

Who won? I didn't even see that until now I thought he was watching Who won? I found some things in the fridge. Were you going to eat them? He didn't say on the way out to Claud, he's like, just so you know, I finished all of your pretzels. If you see crumbs on the couch, it wasn't me, but it wasn't not me.

What a dream. All right. So, yes, Olivia Benson. all the usual suspects were there. And then you fucking, they tore down the city. They attacked a cab. Horrible.

They beat up San Antonio fans. They're ripping down signs. Like, what's happening here? New York, get it together. What's going on? Somebody throwing an egg at Wemby, I was physically sick seeing that video. I almost felt bad for him.

They got him, no? I hope so. I hope so. Who knows? So bad. And like the Knicks fans, I'm praying that the Knicks win in five in San Antonio. Because otherwise I still riot. They're still going to go nuts.

But I think that they will like, I think that they think that we're in a Batman movie. And this is Gotham. And I don't know why they celebrate by burning the city to the ground. But I really do think they're going to light fires. I don't know why. L.A. We're just as guilty of it. We left the arena and everybody is just.

our breath was taken away. Like it was really just, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, what the fuck just happened? Let's go Nix. And then all of a sudden you walk long enough and it starts to get scary. Like guys are ripped in shirtless and they feel like I can't explain it. Like you just feel like you're going to be jumped and you're walking through it. You're weaving through.

People are standing up on cars that aren't theirs. And it starts to feel. scary and rowdy and you need to get out of there. It's the difference between leaving the club at 138 or 238. 100%. If you leave 22 minutes before it closes, you got your Uber, you're on your way home. You're going to have like really mid-sex with someone who you have middling feelings about and you both are going to have chicken nugget breath.

And if you go home at 228, you might not get home because a drunk douche might beat you up outside the club. Yeah, you're in front of a hot dog cart. You're fucked. And that's, but you can't leave a Nick game. You can't leave the finals early. Imagine I left early. I had so many of my friends texting me.

Please tell me you stayed because I do have an M.O. For leaving games. Regular season games, not playoff games. But just like you, I would much rather leave at 1.30. get in my Uber and be home. Right. But you couldn't leave that game. And we ran out as quickly as possible.

I said to Claudia, if you weren't here, I would have sat in my seat until two in the morning. Yeah. I was frozen in time. Yeah. Like what the fuck just happened? But as smart as she is, everybody's celebrating. We dart. We were probably the first ones out of the garden.

But we saw the whole thing. And still we ran into these crowds. Who, by the way, the people, you're right. Even if it's in San Antonio, it will happen. None of the people celebrating were at the game. None of them. They're just waiting to celebrate. The ragamuffins.

They're ragamuffins. They're not even at the game. None of them. Should we get to what are you nuts? My what are you nuts moment of the week, Josh. I just have to say it again. Actually, no, I'm not going to say that because we just did the fans. I was going to make it these rowdy nick fans

that are making us all look bad. But I'll do another one. My wedding at the moment of the week are the people. There were six of them that were sitting behind us, Josh, that kept climbing over and making us stand up as they were leaving the section.

You're not in my row. They did it at least 15 times. They'd enter in our row. We would stand up. They'd climb up to the seat behind them because they didn't want to, they didn't want to inconvenience the people in their row

instead they're inconvenience to the people in our row. What do you nuts? Stay in your own row. Stay in your own row. And I guess my secondary one, which we already talk about is the guy throwing an egg at Wemby. What are you nuts? It's a more serious one.

But don't make us Knicks fans look bad. We've waited 50 fucking years for this. Don't be a scumbag, idiot asshole. You're not important. You're not important. You're not. You're a fan. I don't even think you're a fan.

If you're throwing eggs at a player, you are intending to cause, harm. You are chaotic. It's that same idiot that ran on the court during game one to take a selfie with Wemby. You're not a fan. You're a cloud chasing idiot. What are you nuts?

Couldn't agree with you more. And while I'm against cruel and unusual punishment, I am for unusual punishment. Hear me out. I don't like cruel. So I think what they do is, right, we don't take them to jail. They go get the guy through an egg at Wemby. They hold

him in front of everyone, right? They hold his arms back and they go, Wemby, you get one punch right in the gut, right? You knocked, he gets a wind knocked out of him from a freaking eight foot wingspan from Wemby. He's never doing that again. Never. I like that. What I thought you were going to say that I like more is we tie his hands behind his back

and we give Wemby a dozen eggs. Yeah. And Wembe just goes whales. Whales. Whales on him. Great. Yeah, we give them, no, we give them the 18 pack of eggs from Costco. The 18 pack is killer.

And I for an eye, we need to bring that back. My Woody and Nuts is, speaking of Wembe and the Great Country of France, shout out. Brands has bansin. What are you nuts? They have banned nicotine pouches. Hey, France. What are you nuts? You smoke the most.

The most. The most. So smoking's cool, nicotine pouches and nicotine alternatives not cool. Now, granted, I get it. Smoking is way cooler than Zinning. Like, if smoking is Michael Jornin, then Zinning is me playing at L.A. Fitness. But still, what are you nuts? You're banning Zin?

That's my, that's my gripe. It's a great gripe, and this is where you start to think to yourself, are you banning Zin because it's not good for people or are you banning Zin because you are paid so much money by the tobacco companies and they feel that it's infringing on their profits.

Like France is so pro-cigarettes. Right. So, it must be like a lobbying thing. It has to be. It's not because it's more or less healthy. It's just as bad. Just as bad. So, great, what are you nuts?

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