Good Guys - The Peruvian Puff Podcast with Isabela Merced

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Mazel Morons! On this immaculate Monday, we're welcoming actress and actual superhero Isabela Merced (yes, Hawkgirl herself) to the studio. We dive into our Nickelodeon roots, our cameos on The Last of Us, and the haunting legacy of the Peruvian Puff Pepper. We cover everything from coca tea and Mark Wahlberg’s beach-chair naps to Love Island as a form of therapy. Plus, speakpipes, weddings without bridesmaids, and the universal outrage that is the Cybertruck. See Superman in theaters July 11! Otherwise, what are ya nuts?! Leave us a voicemail here! Follow us on Instagram and TikTok!  Sponsors: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order of their new recipe. Go to hero.co and use code GOODGUYS at checkout. OpenPhone is offering 20% off of your first 6 months when you go to OpenPhone.com/GOODGUYS  Catch new episodes of Bachelor in Paradise Mondays at 8/7 central on ABC, and stream next day on Hulu! Fatty15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help you live healthier, longer. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/GOODGUYS and using code GOODGUYS at checkout.  If you're ready to build your own business - whether it's merch, products, or the next best idea - get on Shopify.com/goodguys and make it happen! Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Mazel morons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. This is just a regular sewing circle right now. We have the great Isabella on the pod. Thank you. Thank you for doing this. Yeah, no, thanks for inviting me. We have so much in common that I was excited to talk about when you invited me. Because we're co-stars.

We're co-stars. We're co-stars. I told my wife, I'm like, I'm going to say we're co-stars. She was like, don't say that. You can say that. I accept. I wish she got to work together. I know.

Your cameo was so random, so awesome. And it reminded me of when you did, I'm just getting into it, I guess. Hold on, I paint the scene, The Last of Us, whatever, biggest show on TV. Yes, yes. Okay, tell me more about me. Okay, so you were in a film in 2004 called Mean Creek. And I absolutely love it. You did a great job.

Thanks. It's like a macabre stand by me. It's so dark and gritty. And then you went and you immediately did Drake and Josh afterwards. During? During. Sorry, I lost audio. Keep going. Keep going. Tell your story. I'm telling her. You lost audio. Does he know about Meancre? He doesn't know enough about my filmography.

Yeah. First and foremost. This is not, listen, we're not cutting any of this out. He unplugged himself while you were talking about me. I get so little flowers on this goddamn show. He couldn't stand it. He's so jealous. He pulled the puck on me. He's holding it, too. It's so fucked up. You know what? This is not a partnership. That's not right.

Very mean. I know. Listen. Oh, my God. He's in a new studio. He has a home studio because or his own fancy studio. But we had a guest on before you in New York. And so he wanted to go to like proper.

I get it. It's our boy. Look, he's wearing a matching suit. I can't. It's a short suit. Let's take bets on the material. We're here. We're here. We're here. By the way, you were taking a story.

I didn't even need to be there. It's no problem. Did you see? Oh, because it had to do with me. Continue the story. We're taking bets. What's the fabric on your short suit? Is it Terrycloth? Is it allure? Obviously, it's Terrycloth. Valore? What are you nuts?

I mean, it's not really that hot that velour would be a preposterous. Yeah. So New York is disgusting. Today it's particularly rainy, so I wore my tarry cloth just in case I got wet. It's really like a towel material just in case I needed to dry off. But yeah. Well, Isabella was telling me about this movie, Me and Creek I did, that she was a fan of. And it was a very, it was right in the heart of Drake and Josh. So it was an interesting juxtaposition doing something so Indian, dramatic, and then so Nickelodeon.

Yeah. And so you did a lot of drama and then you did comedy. I was also Nickelodeon. Yes. But my show was not as successful. It lasted one season. And it was great fun. But you were there before I was there.

So you were something of a legend to us. I was? And on Nickelodeon, yeah. Because you were kind of, I think our show was around sort of at the tail end of the golden era. I feel like Nickelodeon was on top of its game. They did. Every kid watched. But now we're in an Instagram YouTube world.

So that was right when kids just stopped tuning into TV and cable. television every day or every weekend. But yeah, I was a slime person. I got slimed. Nickelodeon was cool, yeah. But you did it, and then you went and did a bunch of dramas, and then you went back and became one of their marquee. I mean, there's like three marquee characters for Nickelodeon.

It's like SpongeBob. Josh, I'm drinking Josh. No. And Dora. Endora. Indora. You so in me boots. Knee high boots? Wait.

Neat high boots. Oh, no. He's so proud of himself with that one. I'm dead. I've been shot. I've been shot. It's so good. I mean, what's that like? I mean, you really are a part of the Nickelodeon Mount Rushmore with that. Perhaps. I actually, I worked more with Paramount on that one. Got it.

Nickelodeon was involved in a lot of the promo. I mean, I remember I went to the Kids Choice Awards that year to help promote the movie. But yeah, that was more so paramount. So I wasn't really working with the same people as before. But it was definitely adjacent. I could feel the Nickelodeon in the room with us. I can't get it out of the room. I can't get it out of the room.

It's always later. It's horrible. What is it intimidating walking into the shoes of someone like that, this beloved character that's already established? Yes. I guess I felt as though I was well equipped, considering I loved Doris. and grew up with her.

So I was just kind of, I was kind of a fan of her myself. So I almost, when I read the script and realized it was somewhat satirical, I almost knew exactly what to do. And so I went in there, I met with the director,

and they were like, yeah, great, you're hired. Wow. So, yeah, that was a whirlwind, but also so much fun. I loved it. I, like, I show, like, even my son,

shy, who's two and a half, watches Dora, loves it. And then my son, who's six, watches Drake and Josh here and there. Oh. Do you think about that?

Like maybe one, like, I don't know if you have nieces and nephews, but like sharing it with like family members, people you love, maybe one day kids like, this is me. Yeah. No, absolutely. I feel like some of my friends who have procreated and were actors prior have done that, but the kids just don't seem to care about their work. So maybe though, because Dora is so huge to us in the future,

maybe she won't really be to them. But I hope so, you know. That would be cool. It could get them to behave better, I guess. I think Dora stands the test of time. I loved Dora. Josh, I did not know that Max watched Drake and Josh. That is new to me, and that is so awesome.

And I just need to know, like, what he thinks. Yeah, what's his favorite episode? What's your favorite episode? No, he thinks it's like, he thinks it's like home movies, kind of. Like, he's like, ah, there's just dad being zany. Yeah. He's so silly. Good old dad.

Why are you screaming, dad? There's dad with a thyroid condition. Before Munjarro. Dad, but make it thyroid. Yeah. Munjarro. Yeah, I do have something also that reminds me of Drake and Josh and also has informed my life in a lot of ways.

Whenever I was growing up and I told people I was Peruvian, they were always like, Is it real? Is the Peruvian puff pepper real? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. Stupid show. It's a new show, Elamia.

It wasn't good. That is unbelievable. That's like people's education on Peru is through that. And I honestly appreciated it because I didn't think anybody knew what Peru was, especially in Ohio where I grew up. But I feel like there is a pepper that they might be talking about in the show. I think it's the Rocoto pepper. It's really high up on the Scoville.

It's like 1,000 Scoville points or whatever that it can reach because it's so spicy. But I was going to bring some for you today, but I was already running really late. Next time I see you, though, I would love to like give it. Do you like spicy? I'm in. Yeah, awesome. Yeah, it's kind of great flavor to it. We kind of put it in everything.

Am I? So if I go to Peru, like, are people going to be like, we're cool with you? Or is like the Board of Tourism going to be like, Peck, no worries. It's probably more important. Probably the grocery store that I tried to call to find the pepper. Really? Yeah.

It's the whole food. My arta, actually. The only one that has it. Rocky helped me out and also had no luck finding the Peruvian puff pepper. Am I going to be embraced when I go to Peru? Are they going to be like, he kind of mess things up for us? You're white, so you will be embraced. Hot, hot.

Hot. Finally. Finally, this white mix is an asset. Like my older brother growing up, he was blonde. And when we went to like Wangayo, where my grandpa's from, they were like obsessed with him because they hadn't seen such natural blonde hair ever. So he was like sort of a walking art piece to them. Yeah. Wow.

It was cool. Have you been to Machu Picchu? I have been to Machu Picchu. A few times, actually. Okay. First of all, I want to go because it is one of the great wonders of the world and just look spectacular. and also as a sober man, I really want to have the cocaine tea

that everyone talks about. The coca tea. Yeah. Tell me about the coca tea. As somebody with ADHD, so it helps a lot with, like, focus. Peruvians are very little, but we, I guess, in the past, the indigenous had to do a lot of exercise

in the high altitude. So they became very resilient and very just, like, able to carry stuff, walk barefoot sometimes over the mountains, and it's crazy. like people train for those types of hikes. And then when they get there, they don't even sometimes make it

because the altitude sickness affects them so much. So the coca leaf is something that you can make a tea out of. Sometimes you can just chew it. You just eat it. But it takes a significant amount of coca leaf to really reach a sort of high that people would love certain people. But I remember I would just chew on them.

They're kind of delicious. They're very delicious. Oh, really? That's a great excuse for me too. It's for the taste. It's what it is. Okay, some people hate it because it's bitter. But like you just kind of roll it up, put it in your lip, and then you kind of just chew on it.

And I find that for me personally, as somebody who's a lightweight in every aspect, it kind of just helps me lock in. It sounds like nature's zen. Is that what it is? A nature's zin? Yeah. Kind of good. Yeah, that's actually great. Nature's zen.

Yeah. Okay. You should just like completely steal. some coconut leaves, package it and sell it at Airwant and call it nature Zin. No, no, no. I am a capitalist at heart. I'm making Nature Zin. Perfect.

Okay, we're going to work together on this. Just put me on there so that is not cultural appropriation. Yeah, we'll cut you in. We'll cut you in. We'll make Isabella a minority partner in this. Literally, literally minority partner. Yeah. We are covered, guys.

So nuts. Everyone's about to fail their drug test. Do not do Nature Zin if you have a government. job. In small letters. Small font. Yeah. Yeah.

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Follow barely filtered wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, so let's get to the last of us because this is like, this is a show. Yeah, are you a fan of the show or you've been on the first season? Big fan, are you? So how did this, yeah, of course. How did this even come? I'm a fan of the game as well. Oh, did you play the game?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually became a fan of the game because of this opportunity that came up. But now I'm just so right or die for the whole IP. I just think it's amazing. And Neil Druckman is so cool. Did you get to meet Neil? I didn't. He wasn't on set, I think, for that episode.

You were in episode four, right? Yes. Okay, so what was that experience? Like, you worked with Kate Heron? I did. Okay, so how the hell did that even come up for you? I auditioned. You just auditioned.

Yeah. And they were like, that's talent right there. And that's what we need. I hopefully, I don't know. I think people always think because I'm saying, oh shit, now my phone's going off. Both of us. It's okay. Now we're even.

We're very busy, Ben. We're co-stars. We have. Yeah. I know the chemistry is unmatched. It's about season three. I'm worried for my job. Yeah.

I'm worried. It's going to be the Peruvian Pup podcast. Wait. Wait, Ben, you're here? Title, title. Ben, when did you get here? Oh, I should leave. Peruvian Pop Podcast.

Peruvian Pop Podcast. That is unbelievable. I can hear the Spotify offer right now. I love money. Oh, man. America. Yeah, I think people think because, like, I am sort of well known from some certain things that a smaller kind of part like that is just like, oh, like they just, they just,

they just thought it would be like a fun like internet yeah like but that the internet would like react but I'm like nah y'all like I just got in line like everyone else mean creek skills that you just pulled out god bless but it was it was kind of this monologue and I remember and obviously the great Craig Mason like when it's good writing and tell me if you agree I just was like I find a lot of times with audition scenes I'll read them and go like I could I don't really know what to do with this and then I'll work on it for a long time and it'll sort of reveal itself the right choices.

But when it's good writing, I'm just like, oh, thank you. This is clear what it needs. Right. You don't have to ask for the script that they're never going to send you for the whole episode to get context because, well, it's there on the page. I do appreciate that about his writing.

It was probably the coolest experience I've had in my life. And also happening at the same time as the other cool experience that I had, which was Superman. And it was just so much happening at once. Yeah. Like, are you trying to do more serious stuff? Are you, are you still into acting, I mean, clearly you are because you're working. But like, I would love to see you do more serious roles. I did another small part in Oppenheimer last year. How was Oppenheimer? Great. Great. Everything. Okay. Like The Last of Us, just where you like show up and you're like, oh, everyone's really good at their job. Like, wow. And everyone is incentivized. As you know, right, like, you do a bunch of stuff. in life and career. And I'm sure, like, Ben, in addition to being the great podcaster that he is as an

entrepreneur and owns a big alcohol company and whatnot, like, you do certain things and you go, like, even at best, this is a seven. Even if this goes perfectly, this is only going to be, like, pretty good. But then you do something like the last of us are Superman or Oppenheimer. You're like, oh, damn, like, this might go the distance. And so now, kind of from the sidelines, but having a very small part of it, I'm like, oh, oh, I saw one go all the way. Yeah. It won best picture.

Yeah. And I'm like, okay. Now I can say I like kind of got to watch it a little bit. Yeah. Have either of you ever had the opposite experience though? Like you went into maybe you did like an indie project. You had very low expectations and it just exploded. Like obviously you're going to know that Noppenheimer, James Cameron's going to crush.

Right. But like is like have you ever had the opposite? I assume that that's like even more of a thrill. Like you did this. Right? Yeah, I mean, but Mean Creek was great, but no one saw it. You saw it. I feel like, didn't it win something at Zundance?

Oh, that's our industry is so small. Yeah. I guess you mean, like, I'm trying to think of like paranormal activity, like something that really like that low budget or low-brac wedding. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

The best. Windex. You need Windex? Yeah. I mean, I would say one that I was surprised by the outcome would. probably be instant family. When we were filming, it was really intimate and obviously Mark Wahlberg was in it. So there would be some sort of success that came out of it.

But I think maybe not the financial success as much as like, it's the one that everyone tells me is their favorite. And it just touched people on a really personal level. And I was like, oh, if I can just have that feeling again, that I did something meaningful and purposeful, I would love to do another sort of instant family type thing, whether it be an indie or star Mark Wahlberg. Dude, tell us about my, I always say Ben some Mark Wahlberg or podcasting.

He's up at 2 a.m. Was he doing his 2 a.m. workouts during that time? Yeah, and eating like eight blueberries for breakfast. Me. Yeah, and had his entourage and everything, and they're all so cool. And he's so disciplined. I remember he brought like a sunbed. Not a sunbed.

Like, you know those beds that are collapsible and you put them out so you can lay out on the beach or something. Is that a sun chair? Is that? Yeah, like a chaise lounge. A chaise lounge. But like a retractable one. And he would bring that and sit in that instead of the cast chair and just take naps in between because that man probably wasn't sleeping. I mean, he's always producing and working and filming at the same time and as a father. Are you ever like, can you be casual and be like, Marky, like let's go, like let's go hit the craft service table. Like I heard they got quesadillas. Honestly, yeah. I mean, we had a scene where we were dancing and it was sort of supposed to be, it was. more off the page, you know, we kind of had to improvise. And I went around and asked some people in his entourage, because one of them was a dancer that used to, you know, dance with him as, you know,

Marky Mark and Funky Bunch. And I asked him to teach me some of the dance moves from their music videos and just try to see if I could sneak in him doing that in the movie. And I can't, I think they included a little portion of it, but it was more for the moment and for me and it was really fun. And he got it afterwards and he was laughing or whatever. But a lot of times he actually treated me like his daughter. So I think he totally expected me to have the same sort of attitude and whatnot as his daughter. So he was almost, he was very fatherly to me, which I appreciated because I, yeah, he did one.

Turn the club. Ben's the only one with a great dad. Oh, Ben, get out of here. My bad, my bad. Ben, what the hell? Two wonderful parents. Just another demerit in my column. The good news is to report to you from 38 years old

Never really goes away Your yearly posts where you put Revealing a tattoo of my dad It's not there Yeah My favorite is when people haven't seen that Like you saw Craig Conover, Josh, right? Like, oh, this is amazing

I'm like, it is amazing But he posts it every year It's an annual thing. It's amazing It's so good It's so good I once said to my therapist, I'm like, are you bored? I'm like, I'm bored of this.

I'm like, I once went into my Shrinks office and said, oh, I'm 37 complaining about my mom. Real original. I was like, oh, God. I mean, you're entertaining, so I'm sure she's entertained. But yes, you can essentially trace everything, every one of my current problems back to parental issues or attachment issues. Yeah. Absolutely. It's kind of boring.

But it helps with acting. How so? I guess I kind of have thought about it in this way. My mom is such an amazing parent, and she has taught me what it is to be loved unconditionally. And then, you know, there's other people in my life who have taught me about the absence of love. So in a way, like, I know what it is to feel it and to have it.

Then I also know what it is to not have it and want it and need it. And then that, to me, like, apparently makes me a really good fatherless character. If you look at my roles, I always, like, my parents are always dead. Like, one's always dead. Right. I never have two parents in a film that I don't know. I just look parentless, I guess. Rad.

Yeah. Wait, do you think that, do you ever have those moments as an actor where something rough, a life thing would be happening? You're going through a breakup. Something hurts. And a little part of your brain goes like, oh, this will be good for later. Yeah. Right now I'm going through something and I'm like, I wish I had some.

some outlet for this other than writing in my notebook and reading it later and cringing, I wish that I could apply it to a character right now because I definitely use that. I definitely isn't therapeutic as hell. Especially when it turns out, Grave. And people compliment you. You're like, yeah, it's the struggle. It's literally, it all comes back to girls, Josh. Josh knows this, Isabella, but I'm like 20 years behind.

Anything that you saw 20 years ago, I'm watching now. So I'm just finishing girls. I'm just finishing girls. And that is what Lena Dunham does. She just is a catastrophe so she can write about it. Yeah. Have you seen Panic in Central Park? No.

When did it come out? No, it's an episode in Girls. Oh, definitely seen it. Yes. I just don't know the names of the, yes, I've seen all of them. It's arguably the best episode on girls. It's just a great, great show. And Josh and I spoke about this.

Lena Dunham gets such a bad reputation. And then you watch that show. And you're like, oh, she's, she's kind of a genius. Yeah. Like, it's so, it's so good. So good. Yeah, something, another show I've been enjoying lately is called Dying for Sex with Michelle Williams. I think Michelle Williams is one of my favorite actresses of all time.

And Shannon Murphy is an amazing writer. And she kind of just EP'd or maybe directed every episode. And there's some common tone and all that she does that kind of reminds me of Lena Dunham, too, because it's very raw. So if you have time, watch Dying for Sex. And she also made a film called Baby Teeth. which I think is phenomenal. And there's always some sort of like cancer component. So it's like characters directly addressing sort of oblivion and sort of the promise of death.

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I'm sorry. This, this is it. This is it. Everybody's talking about it. But there's something that happens to me when everyone's talking about something, it takes me maybe a few years to resign and eventually. watch it. I don't know. I just get overwhelmed by people recommending it to me

and telling me it's good. And if I don't like it, it kind of makes me not like the person who recommended it to me. Because I'm like, you don't even know me. Yeah, you're sure. You don't even know me. Ba, ba. Ba. You know, enjoy. Sheba ass. Let me tell you why I love it. And Josh, you need to watch it. Like, the second that page pops, like this is the show that you're watching. It comes out, it comes out every... It's like 18 hours.

It comes out every night. Every single night there's a new episode. There's an hour. So when she's breastfeeding in the middle of the night, we are turning on Love Island. I'm watching a half hour at 3.30 in the morning, a half hour at 530 in the morning. And this show is down and dirty and raunchy and amazing. It's great. You got to watch it.

I will say it's a really good reference for men who, I don't know. I'm not speaking on you guys, but like men who do the bare minimum because then you can always put on Love Island and be like, well, I didn't do that. Yeah. Totally. You know? Absolutely. Well, I didn't do that to you, so I'm amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. You happen to be with, we name the podcast good guys because we happen to be two pretty, two pretty good guys. There you go. We're the best. Yeah, we are. We're not the best. We're good. Yeah, we're okay.

We're not great. We're not great. We're good. The best boys will be the sequel. Yes. Yes. Our kids podcast. Oh, the best point.

I have a Sunday Max, Max. Max and Ruby, Ruby and Max. Oh my God. Fucking kiyo. Okay, so you're here for Superman. Let's talk Superman. This is big. This is exciting.

This is something everyone loves. So how do you feel about that? It's crazy. I didn't, I wasn't really a fan of Superman when I was growing up. I was more of like a Batman, Wonder Woman kind of girl. But, you know, I actually, after watching the movie, I'm like, yeah, maybe he's my favorite. I think they did a great job with it. James Gunn is the reason why I wanted to do this.

and I auditioned like four times. Yeah. Because he, I mean, he did the Scooby-Doo live action films. Respect crush. He did Slither. He's done The Guardians of the Galaxy. Like, he's done some awesome cultural, culturally significant things in his life.

And I was like, yeah, I need to work with this guy with the white hair. He's also like the keeper of the DC universe, right? Yes. Yes. He's in charge. Yeah. He's the dude in charge. So everyone's nice to him.

We're like, please give me a solo movie. Please. Yeah. Is that kind of a, That's got to be, it's like Miranda Cosgrove on Drake and Josh, right? Like she was anglinged for I Carly, The Whole. Yeah, she's a long game. She's playing the long game.

She was the one who brought in the Peruvian puff pepper, actually. Yeah. Well, good luck with her getting through immigration at Peru. You know what I mean? Enjoy the customs cards. You're going to get a couple extra questions. I don't even know I'm a lot of say. The things that I've smuggled in from Peru is insane.

Ooh, say more. We are a pro-smuggle podcast. For sure. Love. Yeah. I smuggle a lot as much as I can from my trailer, from Peru, from anywhere. Because I believe in the illusion of freedom. Yes.

Yeah. Love it. Yeah. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah, Superman. I'm getting libertarian, but let's get back to Superman. What's it like, though? Like, you get the call that you booked Superman.

I know that you mentioned, like, you weren't a fan necessarily growing up, but it's like, it's Superman. Are you, like, dying that you booked that? Like, yeah. She had freaking wings. Like, I was just so, I was like, that. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to work with Jane.

I'm going to be a hot girl. What's the audition like? Walk us through the whole. I was actually filming Alien at the time when I auditioned for it. And I sent in a self-tape and they had these weird cookie names for the characters that weren't actually the characters' names. And they said on the email, they were like, this isn't the actual dialogue that's in the film. It was. And I just did it.

I set up my ringlight. God, I think is so embarrassing. I set up my ring light. And I stressed out about it. And I just did it. And then I think I sent it in. And then I did a Zoom call as a callback with James. And I think Peter Safran was there.

I can't remember who exactly. I remember James was there. And he was very complimentary. He loved my voice. And he was very raspy. And he liked that. And I guess, you know, Hot Girls kind of rough around the edges. So it made sense.

We just did the scene again. And then he called me when I got back to L.A. after filming, he called me in to do a test, a camera test, where they did makeup, hair, and dress me in the colors of the costume to sort of get the idea. And Nathan Philean was there. He was already cast as Guy Gardner. And then Eddie Gethaggy was also there, and he's playing Mr. Terrific, who's underrated, but you'll see in the movie, he's so necessary to it. And he's going to be, the toys are going to get sold out everywhere. But we did the scene together on a set, and it was so cool. They brought it. This is a camera test I've never done before.

Usually, you know, you do it in a casting office, right? Yeah, it's like just a bare office. Right. It's super, I don't know, just corporate. But this was, it felt like we were on set. It felt like we were actually filming that day. And it was a full day. We did a stunt training.

They had to see if I was capable of moving my body in a way that was believable that I was a fighter. And then costume fittings, they took my measurements. They did a 3D scan. They did the scene. And that was proper. Like they did like proper coverage of every actor. And then afterwards, I don't even remember.

I think I went to get snacks. I was so nervous. Same day. Same day. And are your hopes really, I mean, at this point, you've actually worn the clothes. Are your hopes just so high? I've been in this too long to ever let my hopes get too high. Unless there's a paper that I've signed, I never assumed that it's mine.

I'm so healthy. People like offer you shit and they'll be like, I want she be in this. And then, you know, some old guy at some studio could be like, actually, I don't know her work. I want Jen Ortega. So, you know, like that could easily happen and it has happened. And so I never let my hopes get up. Probably not that healthy. No, it's not.

No, it's a terrible job. I think it's healthy. Like, I don't know, never getting too high, never getting too low. It would be unhealthy to have, like the ping pong is, I would think, worse. But I don't know. Yeah, but in a way, it's like numbing yourself after your first girlfriend cheated on you, right? So then you're like, I have trust issues and I won't, like, date anyone again. and like, let them in.

You know, it's kind of, it's kind of reactive as opposed to proactive. Sure. And I got, I just have a, I have a better relationship with it. But I have one relationship at a time, guys. So I got my parents to work on. Good. But yeah, I waited at crafty and because I eat when I'm nervous or I starve when I'm nervous. It depends on how I'm doing that day.

Yeah, you should pick up vaping. I should, and I have. I had a whole face. Great. Never vapid. The Zin alternative. That's what you eat. Yeah.

When you're going, when you're nervous and you're going to craft, services. What are we grabbing? Like what's there? Yum. I love a beef stick. This is not a snack. This is so healthy. Wait. This is so keto. But this is a great snack. I want empty calories. I don't even think that's meat. I don't even think that's animal meat. I have no idea what is in there. But yeah, it's usually a beef stick or a sunflower butter and jelly sandwich. She's an antelagin queen. I was going to say, are there, is there no peanut butter allowed on sets? Are we too afraid of anaphylactic shock or you're specifically picking sunflower butter? I used to be allergic to peanut butter.

And I'm no longer allergic to it. I actually grew out of it. But it does remind me of death. Got it. That's like me with lactose intolerance. I ate enough fetuccini Alfredo that one day I just wasn't allergic anymore. Him eating milk reminds me of death because I've been around them. It makes you want to end my life.

It's too much. Simply too much. Okay. So when do you get the call? When do you get the confirmation? Okay. So same day, one of some of some. I think it was like a PA.

I don't remember who came up to me. And it's Michael, actually. Michael might have asked me to come. And it was like, James liked to see him in his trailer. I'm like, okay. I just walk over there. You got to know you're getting it at that point, right? Because he's not going to be like, he's not going to want to in person fire you.

Denial is not a river. It's in my blood. Okay. It's my blood. So I'm just completely trying to just detach at that moment. I get in there. There's like a bunch of people, the producers, the other studio head at DC. And they're all kind of sitting there.

And they're like, hello, hello. I sit down. I'm overthinking how I'm sitting. And they're just like, would you like to be our hot girl? And I'm like, wait, sounds like a hot girl. Yes. And then at that moment, I actually didn't respond. In my head, I was like, what the hell do I say?

And then I think the first thing that happened was like, I started tearing. I'm so dramatic, so theatrical. And I was like, oh, I can't wait to tell my mom. Yeah, it was great. Wow. Mm-hmm. And then you walk onto that set. What's that?

I mean, superhero movies in general, and I know you said you were doing Last of Us sort of in the middle of it, but I mean, it's a huge undertaking, right? It's months and months, and what did it look like, the filming process? Yeah, I mean, I started in January with prep and stuff, but we started filming in February,

and we did nine months of shooting, so it was until October. And then in between that, I was shooting Superman for the span of like three, four months. And that was in Atlanta. So I would be in Vancouver filming. last of us, sometimes taking up to eight flights a month. At one point I did, because I was also promoting Madam Webb,

turtles all the way down, and alien. Solid. Solid. I know. I once did a reoccurring on Icarly, and I was like doing that and the pie. And I was like, somebody get me. A private jet. I'm going to need to detox. I need a private jet. How do you jump back and forth between characters? Like, how do you like a question. Like are you, like, don't you have to be so zoned into one?

Like, obviously, that's the skill, right? But how do you prepare to be one character one day and then another the next? You know, there's something, there's something so spiritual about being on a plane. It's almost as if you are literally leaving everything behind and you kind of walk off and you got a new view of life and you're in a whole different place. So it almost allowed me to sort of Hannah Montana that shit and like, yeah, be like, oh, I'm a new girl in a new city. And now suddenly I can be. hot girl again because I left Dina in Vancouver. Right. And in a way, I mean, planes are one of my favorite places ever because I lock in.

Something about the altitude allows me to just focus on my script and be a little bit more emotionally aware because it's maybe so quiet or, I mean, for some people it's very loud, but for me, like, I love being lulled by a transportation. Yeah. I love a subway for that reason. Like, I love that it kind of rocks a little bit and that it's kind of loud. To me, that's peaceful. Ben, I want to talk about Shopify. I don't care what you say. I can't get enough of it. And I really want to talk about my dream hustle. Because with Shopify, whether it's, you know, it's a little side hustle, a little something

you got going on, or you're going, you're going big time, you know, nonstop all the way, full Gary V, hustle, hustle, hustle, 28-hour work week. It don't matter. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter. Shopify does it for you. They have this magic suite of AI tools, unbelievable. Literally Shopify magic.

It's fantastic. It's never been easier. You have a bad idea. Test it, Josh. Test it. What do you want to do? You told me yesterday you wanted to be a parrot trainer. What are you nuts?

And I'm telling you, you should go and sign up, okay? Go to Shopify.com slash good guys. Use our promo code and register parrottrainer.com. And you should start training parrots. I thought it was a crazy idea. Maybe you could make some extra scratch. Listen, I need backup plans, babe. I need things that are going to be working for me while I'm asleep.

Okay? And last time I checked. Parrots are going to love me no matter what, okay? I'm just going to purchase and train a bunch of friends that have to agree with me because otherwise, parrots don't eat. Yeah, otherwise, parrots don't eat. Parrots don't eat, okay? And they talk.

Parrots only eat if they do good for us, okay? Yes. And you know what? That's forward thinking. It is. You want to talk about magic. It is. But Shopify.

I'm telling you. That idea, does it sound crazy? Yeah. But if you don't have a website, you really never know, Josh. There are a lot of crazy ideas that have made people a lot of money. And don't you want to make money?

Aren't you hungry for cash? Woof, woof, I'm hungry for cash. Okay? So sign up. Go to Shopify.com slash good guys today. Take that idea that your wife told you was terrible. Make a website and test the waters. Who knows?

Yes. And if you crush it, then you can hold it over your wife during conversations. You could bring it up at dinners. Embarrass her. And eventually, you guys are going to break up, but you know that you weren't meant to be this rich and married.

It's time to live a little. Literally, I had an idea called meme floats, okay, where I was going to turn memes into floats. Claudia said it was a terrible idea. I said, no, it's a great idea. I'm going to make a website. I own the URL. I will never use it.

It's a bad idea. But I made the website. I looked through it. I thought about it. You can't visualize it. You can't see how bad your idea is until you make a website. Or you can't see how good your ideas until you see all that cash sit in the bank, baby. Yes, I've had so many ideas.

I think of lots of things. I thought there should be an app that puts all of different podcast clips into one place. And someone said, that's TikTok. I said, good boy. But you never would have known that. If you didn't go to Shopify.com slash good guys. Register your URL, podcastclip hub.com slash parrots. And that's now, that's it.

Yes, but here's a better question, Ben. And I already know the answer. If you're not using Shopify, what are you using? I don't know. What are you nuts? There's nothing else. No, it's Shopify or bust. You love Shopify as much as us.

You're going to go to Shopify.com slash good guys today. And you're going to start your dream side hustle because you never know. you could turn into a big success. Have you ever gotten so deep into a role that you've accidentally, like you're with friends, you filmed the whole day. Like, do you find yourself, like Josh will call it code switching, but like do you find yourself like playing a character

as yourself with your friends by accident? Has that ever happened? Yeah. So for turtles all the way down, my character has a lot of like inner monologues. And I kind of just wanted to see how it would play. layout. So this is on purpose. A lot of that stuff happens subconsciously. You're like, that's a line from the script that I'm doing right now. But this one was fully on purpose. I was in an Uber and I just

completely off the top of my head started repeating the monologue that my character has to this Uber driver just seeing if it worked and how it did. And it's kind of about like these fish that have these like they have these parasites in their brain and essentially I think if I can remember it clearly, the parasite in a way tells them to swim up to the surface of the water. At some point, it's just like nature, just tells it to swim up to surface so that it can be killed by a bird, so that it can be essentially grabbed by a bird. It's like the parasite determines the life of the fish. And the fish has no control over it.

So my character is comparing that experience to like humans and how we believe. We believe we're in control of what we do and how we are. And just like when a script enters your brain or a character, you become a character. It's like, who's actually driving right now? Who's driving the car? We're just at the whim of what? No one really knows. That's like Ben with bagels.

They control him. They control him. So New York. So New York. So, New York. So looking at Ben. Lox bagel. Love, yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. What kind of cream cheese? What kind of cream cheese? He uses his regular dairy cream cheese. Dairy for sure. He's like extra creamy cream cheese, you know?

Dairy for sure. We're on scallion. You need a little bit of a kick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scalion cream cheese, some locks, little sliced red onion, toasted everything bagel. That's my shit. As many, everything bagel for sure, for sure. Looking at Ben, who do we think in the DC universe?

What superhero? Where does Ben make sense? Yes. Bring it in. Accountant man. I could absolutely see him on like Peacemaker or something. That's a great show. I was expecting Superman, but it's fine.

It really, it is what it is. It is what it is. I was. I'll take peacemaker. I'll take it. What about Josh? Ooh. The heroine, I feel like he styled it to kind of feel like Clark

get to the hey no oh my god we got to stop him I can't take myself serious ah

danger danger he is getting away oh no oh kryptonite no doesn't really have parents I mean he does have parents

but didn't he like didn't they adopt him I don't know. I did that in quotes. That's a very central storyline to this, to this. Like, they definitely talk about, you know, Superman's, like, daddy issues, mom issues. Always. For sure, yeah.

You have to, you have to, because who are, who is he without, you know, the parents? And so, yeah, a lot of that movie is, like, very therapeutic. But I feel like you would be. Green Lantern? I feel like you'd be a great flash, you know. You just talk so fast. I like that. That's fantastic.

God bless you. I would take that and run with it. Should we do a speak pipe or two before what are you nuts? Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, so we get like phone calls into people leave us messages. Oh, really? They want our advice.

They want to hear from us. They have questions. That's nice. This could be fun. So feel free to jump in. Give all the advice you want. They will be happy to hear from you. If you have a question for us, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys.

Keep it brief. Brevity is key. Let's first hear from Lauren I never do this right Let me just refresh it We gotta get someone to do this Lauren You guys are gonna roast the shit out of me

I just listen to the Rain Wilson Wait wait this is the wrong one Sorry I know I always mess it up Are you're Rayne Wilson on here Yeah God I love rain This is a big pod He's so good It's so good

Yeah he's really good at talking Okay, this one's from Anonymous. Shalom would love to hear Claudia and Olivia and Paige's opinion on this as well. My partner sleeps like a fucking rock. Like I will push and shove. I will yell at him to try and wake him up if something's happening in the night. Nothing. He doesn't even budge.

So God forbid somebody breaks into our apartment. We're screwed. We're fucked. Like I don't know what to do because he's not getting up. Are you guys like this? Are all men like this? Is this just my man? Would just love to hear if I'm alone in this.

I used to be a heavy sleeper. I'm a very, very light sleeper now. I think that like, especially with my son, like the second I hear him like even lightly cry, I'm awake. And I wish it's great for right now, but in general I wish I was a deeper sleeper. I need like a noise machine, like all of that to sleep deep.

So I'm the polar opposite. And honestly, you need a man that is a light sleeper. A deep sleeping man is a huge problem. Like him sleeping through a burglary, no good. No good. Not good. Josh, you're a light sleeper now. I am, but I'm scared, right?

And I live on the second floor. Like, I have a proper house now. I grew up in apartments. So I literally have to go into a trance. And I put on a big boy voice. And I just have to run through my fear. So when I hear something, I don't even think I'm in my underwear. And I just start stomping, making noise going,

like as I go down, so whoever is in the house gets scared, I'm like, who's down here? And like, because I'm so scared. It's just your assistant. Yeah. And my kids. Yeah.

What do you think? Oh, my God. Wow, it sounds like a really healthy home environment. Super. Yeah. I don't think this just applies to men. I'm an incredibly deep sleeper. So deep.

I had one of those aura rings at one point, and I threw it away because I don't need it. I've already won sleep. Yeah. I'm so good at it. It takes me such little time to get into REM. It takes me forever to wake up because I just love sleep. Okay.

One more speak pipe from, this one's from Allie. My good guys, longtime toaster, new moron. My fiance showed me your podcast. And now it's something that we listen to together. So thank you. So my question is we're getting married in March and he wants groomsmen and I do not want bridesmaids. If we did do them a bridal party, we would have 11 people on each side and I just think that's too much.

He wants to honor his brothers in some way. So we're just trying to figure out how we can do that. But I'm curious to hear your guys' thoughts. What do you guys think about bridesmaids, groomsmen? and we're 31 years old and I feel like a lot of our friends have already gotten married and done the whole thing

but curious to hear what you guys think. I appreciate that she went to humans and not chat GPT. That to me is refreshing. But also I've never been married. I'm not even close to being married. Also, marriage just sounds like a bunch of compromises. So I feel like they're just really getting

a taste of marriage right now with that. Fair. What do you guys? Are you guys married? Yes. Very for a very long time. Both of us. Yeah.

And marriage is definitely compromises. I will say, though, any, if your wife is pushing you to not include your friends, your, like, best friends in the biggest moment of your life, to me, that's not something that you should compromise on. Like, if you want groomsmen because, like, you love them and you want to honor your brothers and, like, she knows that they're your friends. So to me, I wouldn't compromise on that. And I would, like, you're never going to look back on your wedding and say, oh, I'm so upset

that I had bridesmaids, but you will look back on it and say, oh, I'm so upset that I excluded my best friends from my best day, in my opinion. I mean, also, like, if you have guy friends, I feel like you could definitely have them be your bridesmaids or at least like part of your bridal party as well if you're just like, you know. A lot of women have a lot of guy friends. So it's nice to have that. But yeah, the more the merrier, I don't really know enough about the situation.

I just, my brother called me when I was, got engaged and he's like, and he's like, Josh, I'm going to give you one piece of advice. It's not your fucking day. And goes, it's hers. Whatever she wants, just do it. And it proved to be very good advice. Yeah. Because I didn't actually, truly in my gut, care at all. I cared that it made her happy and my mom happy and her family happy.

But like, I didn't need a day. But I'm so glad it happened and I'm glad that I only spoke up once about how much ravioli we were going to have and a couple songs that the band was going to play. Sorry, did you want more ravioli or less ravioli? What do you think? Yeah. Can you ever have too much? You're right. Like spend the money on the ravioli.

And that's the thing, though. And my generation and stuff, it's like... Yes, tell us. It's like the men, it's no longer if you have a happy wife, happy life. It's like everyone's sort of obsessed with being equal. So in a way, you know, men want to be sort of princesses as well. But they also want to be princes, you know? And then women also want to have that like dominant.

It's kind of just exchanging sort of power dynamics constantly. Is that exhausting? Probably. I don't know. Okay. It sounds exhausting. But like, you know, I don't actually have it. any advice for her. I think there's so many ways that this could go. But that'd be kind of funny to

just have a bunch of guys on one side. She's just alone. Yeah. She should pick it on the day. Just like you, you, you, come on. She could hire people. They have services where you can pay for bridesmaids. It's very sad, but that exists. Cool. She could. She could. She could. She could. She could hire. I wish I could just call her right now. We could just talk it through. Yes. Yeah. All right. follow-up app. That's too much tech. Maybe for Peruvian Puff podcast. You guys will get that level of tech.

It's already done. We're shooting in Times Square. Okay. So our final segment is our Woody and Nuts moment of the week. It's our gripes with people, places, and things, both big and small, whatever, stick it in your craw. Anything that makes you go, Woody and Nuts. So take your time.

We'll do ours first. You have time to think. It's just, it could be so minute or it could be huge, just anything that's like, Dude, money and that. Ben, take us away. Isabella, you don't know this about me, but I drive everywhere. I live in Manhattan, but I drive everywhere. I love being in my car.

And when I tell you, people head down on their phones is becoming an enormous problem. People are just crossing against red lights in the middle of the street. Just walking, scrolling TikTok, right as I was coming here, a woman and her daughter, she's holding her daughter's hand. She's crossing against. Red looking at her phone. I stopped completely. I'm not honking a little girl.

I stopped, I stopped completely. I'm looking at her. I'm like, what are you fucking nuts? Get off your phone when you're walking in the street. And if you're a parent, you can't be on your phone when you're holding your child's hand. You can't. In Manhattan, move to Oklahoma. In Manhattan?

Too much. What are you nuts? Yeah, that's very valid. That's very valid. My friend once said people shouldn't just get driver's license. They shouldn't just take regular driver's license. test, they should take driving and texting text. Because that tests, because everyone's going to drive in Texas anyways.

So let's just see if you're good at it. And that's how you get your license. That's great. We should do that with drinking too. Just take a handle of Svetka and hop behind the wheel and take a test. This is the Russian driving. The Russian driving. My Woody Nets is the other day I was, I had to go to the doctor for this physical thing.

And so, you know, the nurse in takes you and she goes, you know, put your arm like, we'll do the blood pressure. And I'm kind of like resting it on the side of the chair. And we're talking as the blood pressure is being taken. And then it goes off. And I go, how is it? You know, I like to know my numbers. And she goes, oh, it's a little elevated, but it's probably because you were talking.

I'm like, what are you nuts? We were chatting. Should tell me to be quiet. I'm not going to live. Yeah. I don't even know if I have one. There's no wrong nuts. There's no wrong nuts.

You said you travel so much. Like literally airplanes are a wadia nuts. Like the travel process. Like anybody, a Karen over had been space. Or you're on a crazy press tour. I'm sure there's just like so many things that are. Like this, like the building that you're in right now has a sky. lobby. That's a what are you nuts.

Like that's... Time nuts. That's nuts. Sorry to your lovely assistant. I'm sure getting here was traversing this was bad, but it's a big fancy building. I don't know. I mean, to be honest, I don't even think this is a what are you nuts, but just whenever I see a cyber truck, I think that. Yeah. What are you nuts? Like, there's nothing about that. That makes any sense. Not aesthetically appealing. It's not practical. It looks ridiculous. Agreed.

That's great. This is a wedding and nuts. This is a wedding and nuts. This is a great what are you nuts. Isabella, anything else you want to promote? Give the date for Superman. Superman's July 11th. Gang, gang, gang. Yeah, that's it. Bong, bang.

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