Good Guys - Twerkin’ on Your Last Nerve with Matt Matthews

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Y'all better buckle up and bless your hearts, because we've got none other than Matt Matthews with us today! We're talking everything from Brother Husbands to the Tapeworm Diet and everything in between. Matt opens up about his experience going from a trailer park in Alabama to gracing stages all over the country, his business as a boudoir photographer, open relationships, and more. Plus, Matt shares his disdain for Los Angeles (gasp!) AND New York (GASP!) Trust and believe this is an episode you will NOT want to miss. What are ya nuts?! Love y'all! Leave us a voicemail here! Sponsors: Tinker, Create, and Innovate with KiwiCo! Get 50% off your first crate at kiwico.com with promo code GOODGUYS. Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/GOODGUYS Earn points by paying rent right now when you go to bilt.com/goodguys Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The following podcast is a dear media production. I'm Josh Peck. And I'm Ben Sofer. And we're the good guys. There's a lot of guys out there. And we're the good ones. Mazel Morons, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with Bernie Madoff's money manager.

It's Ben Soffer. And you know him. You love him. He's currently on a nationwide comedy tour. Bougie on a budget, aren't we all? Let's all give a big good guys. Welcome to Matt Matthews. Matt, thank you so much for joining us from Birmingham, Alabama.

What's it like being in L.A., given that L.A. is such a cesspool of hate. It's a shit-hull. When he come from such a lovely, quaint, all-American town. It's a shit-hole. It's a shit-hole, right? Tell Josh to his face. It's a shithole here. Say more.

I mean, like, I don't know how you live here. Okay. But, you know, it's just, I feel the exact same way when I go to New York. Yeah, you hear that, Ben? You hear that? What? I feel the same way anywhere that I have to go with people at all. I live on 104 acres.

So, like, you can walk outside just buck naked, you know, and like, nobody's going to see you. Yes. Except for your animals. So, like, that's what I don't want people to talk to me. We were literally, I've been talking about this all because we just did a, I did an interview right before this. And we were talking about that. And, like, people think that I'm such an extrovert because of social media and because I'm a stand-up comedian and, like, all these things. but in all honestly like I'm very much an introvert

like I don't like big groups of people I don't like I just want to stay at home I don't want anybody to bother me yeah let's talk about let's talk about 104 acres when did that happen and how did that happen well I bought my first farm

which is where you see like most of the videos and stuff it's 11 acres I bought that in 2015 that was the first place that I ever bought on my own I lived in a trailer park before that So, you know, we're a trailer park hose. Double wide? Yeah. No, baby, I had a single wide.

Single, babe. Our humble beginnings. Single wide. Okay, I grew up into projects with an alcoholic mom. Okay, so don't get it twisted. And then we leveled up, and my dad got custody of me when I was nine years old, and then I moved into a trailer park with him. And I was a little redneck trailer park kid with a mullet.

Yeah. Can you believe that? Look at me now, bitch. We know the projects, like, growing up in New York, the projects were these giant, They are these gigantic brick buildings, you know, 35 floors, all very. No, we didn't have that. Yeah. What is Alabama Project?

Government housing for us was, they were shooting everybody outside. We had like maybe three floors. We had like a little communal laundromat in the middle. And my mom was like a psychopath. And so she would like yell out the window while they were shooting each other. They're like, I got a baby in here trying to sleep. And I'm like, this is it. This is over for us.

Like, here we go because this bitch is about to get us killed. Wow. Yeah. So it was a struggle. And this is what my first, my actual, my first, my first tour that we just finished, we just wrapped my special and we filmed my special in Birmingham. And this was kind of what my first show was was about my life, kind of growing up with an alcoholic mom and in government housing and moving to the trailer parks. And, you know, learning to break cycles. And, you know, I grew up with very alcoholic and addicts in my family. And I knew that statistically I should be an alcoholic or I should be an addict like the rest of my family. Because kids, perpetuate this shit that they see, right? Sure. And so I made a promise to myself at a very early age to break that cycle and break that string of addiction and be successful for myself. And I always had a mouth on me, you know?

So I was like, let's be a comedian. And it worked. And was it ever, like, I grew up differently, but in New York with, you know, extremely humble mean single mom in 12 step. So there's some similarities. And we would kind of vacillate between, like, if my mom was having a good year, like, we were very like, you know, like, at the bottom end of middle class.

Y'all had good years. We had good years. Oh boy, you is bozy. I got a nice new pair of Nike's. Excuse that. My brother was a crack kid and he would take all of my shit and pawned at the pawn shop for drugs. But were there ever moments where it was like, I guess did you know any different? Like were there sweet, happy moments in the project?

When my mom wasn't drunk. Yeah. I mean, like, and here's the thing too. Like, this is kind of what I tell people. Like, I don't, my mom passed away from addiction in 2007. So, like, I don't paint the picture of her being this terrible person because she wasn't. Like, she loved me the best way that she knew how. She just struggled a lot with mental health and addiction, and she didn't have anybody to help her, you know?

And so that was, like, just a big moment for me to realize, like, as a kid, as a young kid, like, you can follow in these footsteps and be just like your mom and just like your brother and just like your sister, or you can be better for yourself. And so that's why I had to make that promise to myself. So I grew up and I never drank. I still don't drink to this day, even though some of these folks make me want to. You know, I never tried drugs. I never did anything like that because I knew, I'm like, look at these hos over here. You know, like, they don't have nothing. They don't have anything.

So, like, I'm not going to be that. So I just made very conscious efforts not to do those things. What do you do? Do you ever get mad and black out and eat like a hundred snicker bars? Uh-uh. I do have an adult gummy. Okay, so, okay. I can't flux with that.

Oh, sorry. Can I cuss on here? Please. Okay, guys. Because I be cussing. I got a mouth on me. If you did drink, what would you drink? I don't know.

I mean, have you ever seen a ghetto white gay guy after a couple of slippery nipples? Like, that's the thing is I cannot, I want to fight. You know, like when I drink, I'm not a, I'm not a happy drunk. I'm a mean drunk. And so I'll be trying to hit people. And, you know, I just, it just doesn't make me feel good. It doesn't make me feel good. And I don't want to go to jail.

I'm too cute to go to jail. So I just have me a little gummy at night and take my ass to bed. And have you always been this svelt? Have you always been this skinny? This bitch just caught me skinny. You're skinny, Joe. Oh, my boy. You are trim.

I don't even have my spanks on. We have a spank. We're with skims. We're an entire, we are a spank's loving company. Let me tell you something. I wore spanks on every show that I performed. I did 120 shows last year. Me too, 120 episodes of drinking trash.

I wore spanks every episode because this bitch commented one time on the internet. Matt Matthews is fatter in person. And I was like, so is your mama. But have you, Matt, but have you been fatter than you right now? Yeah, like, to me, I've always struggled with body image. So, like, I've never, can't relate, bitch. I mean, you're kind of boring. Thank you, dear.

Thank you, dear. I have always struggled with that, you know, like, I've never felt comfortable in my skin. I've never really felt like my body was good enough. You know, I've never, I've never, I used to work out. I did cross fat, I did all the things, and I was still never happy with my body. And so before my career as a comedian really took off, I spent years building a career as a photographer and I was a boudoir photographer. And I still have that business and I have an associate that shoots and, you know, we still book clients.

But being a boudoir photographer was able to really kind of like show me that it doesn't, never going to have the perfect body. You're never going to be where you want to be. You're never going to fully love yourself, you know? So it has to be like you have to learn to be comfortable in the skin that you're in. You have to learn to love your body and everything. that it does for you right now because you're never going to be

where you want to be. And so I started my, I started this tour that I'm on now and I was like, I'm not wearing spanks anymore on this show. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to, I'm never going to be exactly where I want to be.

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We are comedians and we're married and we do a relationship and life advice show called the Endless Honeymoon Podcast and here's the exciting part. We want to advise you. We're in no judgment zone, so anything you want to ask about, it's all good. Yes, send us your questions to Endless Honeymoon pod at Gmail and tune in to the Endless Honeymoon podcast on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you like to listen. Ben, how are you feeling in your overall body journey? I was going to say, as two fat men that were previously much, much fatter, this is the most fatphobic podcast you'll ever be on.

I love that for you. Yeah, like, we just, like, we're Ozempic queens. Like, we love it. Not Josh. Josh talks about it as if he's on it. He's not on it. He's not. He's not too late. You know, here's my thing.

I actually talk about this in my show right now. But I love it. I love it, Matt. I love, I've lost 60 pounds on Ozempic. He smokes it. I'm just, I love it. I love it. I just don't understand.

Do y'all know the side effects of Ozzympic? Happiness. No, no, no, by the way, there are no, there really are no side effects except for light nausea in the beginning. But if you get through it, it's fine. Let me tell you all something. Pregnancy is a, is a damn side effect. These bitches out here getting pregnant. I don't fucks with kids.

Right, right, right, right. So could you imagine if I'm like, ooh, let me get skinny on these hoes and end up fucking pregnant? Yeah. Like, I would trip myself going down the stairs. Yes, or what if OZIPIC makes you hook up with a woman? No, oh, hell no. Yeah. I've never touched the same monster.

That's off label. I have never touched a sea monster, ever. I'm a platinum star gay. I didn't even come out of a vagina. I was a C-section. You were the Immaculate Conception. Truly. I love it.

I don't know how I could get more perfect. Wow. What was that like coming out in Alabama at whatever age you did? I thought you were going to say, what was it like being a C-section baby? I did too. I was like, I don't really remember. I'm like, what the hell kind of a question is that? I don't really remember that.

I mean, they just cut it open and there I went. Coming out in Alabama, I mean, I wanted to fuck Uncle Jesse on full house in the fourth grade. I know him. So, you know, like, do you want me to call him? Yes. We'll FaceTime him. Hold on. Should we FaceTime?

John Seamus really quick? That was, you know, like, that was. I got it. I wanted, that was my crush in the fourth grade, you know? So, like, you know, I always tell people, I'm like, straight people didn't choose to be straight, gay people didn't choose to be gay. You know, like, you didn't just wake up one day. I was like, hmm, I think I'm going to like Dick today. Right.

I think I'm going to make my life harder, you know? Right. I'm actually FaceTime in him right now. Full disclosure, he is at Disney, Disney World. He's a Disney adult. Okay. How do you feel about that? I don't fuck with that.

I don't fuck with kids. Yeah, he went alone. He went, I'm not sure who he went with. Of course he's not picking that. I'm just trying to spread that rumor. I'm going to text him right now and hopefully he'll write his back during, or polish back during the pod. He's going to be like, I am not calling you to talk to some gay comedian.

Are you kidding me? No, he's a fan. He eats it up. He loves love. So, sorry, we were FaceTiming while you were actually being very personal and vulnerable and beautiful. So you were saying that it's something that you just knew right away. Yeah, like, I've never been attracted to a woman. I mean, I think women are beautiful.

And, like, I wish that I could be attracted to a woman because men ain't shit. You know? Like, men ain't shit. Say more. So, you know, I'm like, I'm like, just, y'all be really twerking on my fucking. nerve is what y'all do you know but you know when you just like the t-tie you like the t-tie like what can you do right but and you're married or engaged married yeah how long have you been married 10 years mazaltov mazal and how did you too me what the fuck is mazal i was gonna say we're also

as fatphobic as we are we are as jewish like mazatao um bitch come on quit playing with me do i look jewish mazal yeah what there's we we say it anyways we prophylitized that bitch that I look Jewish. Look at my nose. It's beautiful. I am blind, bitch. He has a perfect nose and he's as Jewish as it gets. Oh, wow. Would you have... Would you rather me say that you look

Aryan from here? Is that better? I don't know what that is. It's the white. It's a white white, white. Oh, white, yeah, I am white white. It's like Nazi white. That's Aryan. Oh. Let me tell you something, bitch. You're not going to get me canceled. Okay. I got a whole point. to do so you're not been to get me canceled. Baby, I'm not here trying to make my coin.

You have, what is it, a 50s city tour? Oh, my God. Unbelievable. That's just the first leg, baby. This is a three-year tour. It's time. It's time to make the money.

You love money. I do love money. I am a money ho. The things I would do for money, you know, like, I mean, it's crazy when you grow up poor. And you're like, then you get money. You know, like, I grew up real poor. Like, we drank sugar water and ate manet sandwiches.

Like, because we had no Kool-A. We couldn't afford the extra 25 cents. So I grew up really poor. And then I created a successful business for myself and did pretty decent and did well. I created my candle line and my clothing line and did really well. And like things were good. And then I became a performer. And I was making a lot of money.

And I'm like, okay, beach has got money now. You know, we knew money over here. Okay. We knew money hoes. We knew money hoes. Sure. And so it becomes a thing of like, it's still a scary mentality because I still still in the back of my mind, I'm always terrified of being poor again. You know, I'm always like,

if I don't sell enough tickets, if my social media is not performing well, or if, you know, something's going wrong, it gets so mentally taxing of my career's over. You know what I mean? And I think that is something that I've been like really struck, and I actually posted this on my Instagram yesterday, that like mental health is so important and it swept under the rug so much. And I'm not really a person that has struggled with depression or things like that. But like, my life lately has just been very overwhelming and I'm very much an overthinker and like I worry about everything and anxiety and it's kind of like just taken over lately and I've gotten to the point where I'm like I can't worry about how many fucking views an Instagram reel is getting like I can't worry

about like stupid things like that thinking that my career is over because I didn't have a million people watch my shit you know what I mean does that get to you if something doesn't perform yeah because I'm thinking like they hate me right it's in the back of my head that people me. They don't love me anymore. They don't... They don't... You had a peak. Yeah.

It's the end. And it's wild because my very first tour... This is my second tour. My very first tour, first time ever. Like, I never opened for anybody. I opened for two comics in my town two times, and that was it. And then I signed with an agent, and I did my first tour, first headlining tour. 120 cities, 150,000 tickets sold in the first year.

And we wrapped that tour, filmed my special. I signed with CAA. I signed a three-year tour deal with Live Nation, which is the tour that I'm on now. And it's like, bitch, you're doing, you're out here working. You're doing stuff. You're never going to be poor again, you know?

And it's like, you have to just change your mindset to realize that, like, you're never going to go backwards if you don't allow yourself to go backwards. But you have to do it in a healthy and a positive mindset, or you will fuck your shit up. And if you fuck your shit up, then you do go backwards.

You know, so it's like continuing to be positive and like putting out, I'm a big believer in manifestation, and like putting negative, if you put negative shit out, negative shit out. Speak on it, Benjamin.

Like, speak on it, Ben. You put positive shit out and positive shit comes. Yeah. Mani manifest. No,

we, we talk about it all the time. And I'm, I'm just fascinated at your sort of arc from entrepreneur into sort of being, being this comic, and I can certainly relate to that.

What do you prefer? Do you like building businesses and being in the background? Or do you prefer to this version of yourself where you, you are the business and you're peddling yourself. Yeah, so my entire life I grew up wanting to be a performer. Like, that's what I wanted to do as a young kid.

That's how I knew I was gay because I would perform for my teddy bears and act like I was Britney Spears. You know, I'd be like, oh, yeah. I would have thought it was the loving men. Yeah, you know, that was, isn't that an indicator? Sure. But maybe when you take them glad, them glad trash bags and you wrap them around your legs like they are your Britney Spears jean, I mean, you're Britney Spears leather pants.

Oh, yes. Like, don't play with me. What Brittany era are we talking? Like, early's Britney. Yeah. Oops, I did it again. Oh, maybe one more time. Yeah.

Yes. Not pre-toxic. Yeah. Oh, before all that. Dating Justin. Yes. Gotcha. That was my girl.

I'm in. I mean, that was, I'm still a Brittany. I'm still standing with Brittany. I think you could save her. I think I could. I think we would be best friends and I feel like I could like, I could like, because you know, I'm like, I'm a 90s kid, you know? So like, that is, I'm stuck in the 90s.

Like truly. Like every, this is so bad. Every year for my birthday for the last four years, I rent out the skating rink. Like, because it still looks like the 90s. It's like a 90s time capsule.

And so we rent it out and like just me and my friends, we go and we skate and we dress up like something from the 90s and we have just 90s playlist. And it's just the most fun ever. Like that's all the music that I listen to. Like, it's out. What's your favorite music?

What's your favorite music? Like just if I'm just driving down the road. Yeah. Right now or like just. totally. In general, because I'm curious. Right now, fucking Chapel Rohn has me in a death grip. Really? Like, I'm obsessed. And I'm like, I am a grown-ass man. Why am I listening to a 20-year-old lesbian? And what are we listening to at your roller rink birthday parties? Oh, TLC.

Yes, T-Boss. Oh, God, sleep well, Lisa. Let me tell you something. I have a chicken named Lefti. I love that. He said, in Memorial. In Memorial. Yeah. That's a living memorial. I also have a Mary Kate and Ashley. I have a Drake. and Josh. We have a Zach and Cody. Who's that? I don't know why I brought it up. I did a movie with Mary Kate Olson

and she was everything. I wanted her to be a more. You know, thank God. She was wonderful. Because, you know, they say don't ever meet your heroes because they're usually dick holes. Meet the Olsons. And like when I met Joel,

I was thinking, you know, like we had, I was literally talking to my publicist about this on the way over here. I was like, it's funny when you grow up idolizing somebody and thinking they're so great. and loving them being such a fan and then your career makes you one of their peers.

You know, like that's a weird thing. You know, I grew up loving Jule. And then we were both in the entertainment industry so our paths crossed and we just clicked. Yes. And so now it's like, I'm Jules' friend, you know, which is a weird thing because you're like, you grew up loving that person.

And I remember meeting her, I was thinking, like, I just hope she's not a bitch. Like I hope, you know, and like we just immediately, like she's as unhinged as I. am. So it just like, it clicked. And I think people don't realize that celebrities are just real people, you know, like, but sometimes are awful. Sometimes they're cunts. Oh, God. Sometimes they're fucking cunts. Josh, who's your least favorite celebrity? Stephen Seagal told me to go away when I was 12. That's an easy one. But my least favorite celebrity currently, I don't know. I, as I'm getting

older, I have more of a respect and appreciation for celebrities who act like old school celebrities that don't comment on every event that aren't too much on social media, that just like do great projects and kind of like go away for a while. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I literally said today, I said, I'm hoping that I make so much money on this tour that I get to be like a Dale and I can just disappear for a while. Yeah, that's, that's a dream. And then like when my coin starts to come down a little bit, then I can bus back out, do another tour. Residency. And then just boom, you know, just, but I also hate Vegas. So what's upsetting you about as a lover of, I assume you're a millennial, like us? So as a lover of the 90s and as a millennial, what's annoying you about Gen Z?

Oh, they piss me the rumors. They just pissed me off. About the alphas. They just pissed me off. Like, everybody pisses me off. Everybody. Gen Z's, what is it, Gen X? Alpha. Gen Alpha. Yeah, yeah. Alpha's the next. That's after us. You got to start again. Gen Z's after us and then Alphas after them. Okay, well, they pissed me off trying to act like they created all this clothes that we've been wearing for years. Like, bitch, just sit down with your baggy pants. Right.

Okay. Like, we was doing that. We was doing that in 1995. Like, please have a seat. That pisses me off. Honestly, like. Low-rise jeans. They didn't make those.

You didn't make them. Sit down. I've been wearing low-rise jeans forever. Yeah. I mean, just ass crack out. You just got to, and I see like they're pulling the thongs up now. Yes. And I'm like, let me tell you something.

Lita did that on WWF in 1998. Okay, don't play with me. You a WWF, man? I was when I was in the Charlie Park. I haven't watched it in years. Come back to us. It's great. Are you still a wrestler?

Best show on earth. Stop. Shout out. Stop. Watch Vince McMahon Doc on the... Oh, I haven't watched it. I want to watch it so bad. It's good.

I heard it is wild. Yeah, wrestling's the best. Yeah. I used to believe that shit was so real, too. Yeah, I mean, it is. No, it's not quite playing. Okay, it's not real, but it athletically, I mean, these guys are spectacular. Yeah.

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Guys and gals, well, here, I have an article pulled up because we were talking about Ozempic earlier, and this caught my eye and I thought we could all talk about it. Let's talk about it. But basically, there are tapeworm pills for weight loss. Excuse me? They're being You're like a tapeworm? They're sold on the dark web.

Oh, fuck no. No. Doctors on YouTube have more viewers. Tapeworm egg bills are being sold on the dark web as a quick fix weight solution. Some of them can grow up to 30 feet long. Oh, absolutely the fuck not. And they munch on your post-chew the meal.

You're canceled. You're canceled. It was wrong. Worth it. My stomach is turning. Can you imagine? Could you imagine taking a worm? Because you want to be skinny.

Bitch, I'll put on my spanks and call it a day. Beauty is pain. He's shooting up. He goes, he goes to Zempic main lines it. You're nuts. Mainline. You need Jesus. Literally the tiniest needle in my belly.

Tiny. Tiny. I'm going to pray for you. And I don't even pray, but I'm going to pray for you. You're going to make this man religious. I'm going to inject you with those Zempik in the night. No, you're not. Because I'm not going to end up pregnant.

No, I'm not. No, I am not. You got the right bitch. No, right idea, wrong bitch. I mean, you have been on a body journey. I have. Like, how much weight have you lost? 100 pounds.

100 pounds. That's the whole person. Yeah, that's an old son. Ask him how long ago he lost. How long ago? 15 years. Damn, for real? Maybe more.

18. Yeah. It's been that long? I'm over it. Yeah. He's been skinny. He's been skinny longer than he's been fat. But I was fat on one of the real peaks of my career,

and so people know me and still see you as a fat person. Sure. Yeah. Let me be real with you. Okay. I obviously know who you are, right? Because you're just whatever. But like I was never,

I never really watched like Drake and Josh or anything like that. But like, of course I saw like, like you see a person like transform, you know, like anybody. Not just you, just like anybody transforming their lives. Let me tell you something. to hype you up just a little bit. Okay. You kind of fine. Thank you,

so you need to like, you need to like feel, you know, you kind of, you like, you can fuck these hos up out here. I, I do.

So, oh, you fuck him up. One in particular name, Paige, my wife. Yeah? Yes.

She better, fuck her up. You better, you better, she better, she better, she better, she better,

she better, cut this out, me. Like, Paige. Your man is a daddy over here Okay, like you better be hopping on that She's cute

You want to see a picture right? Yeah, I do. Hop on page Oh, she is. Okay, you kind of outkicks your coverage I did, I did, I married up You did, I know, but But you know what? It's just like me, like, and just like every person

is like, we always see the person that we used to be Like what you look in the mirror And you see of yourself right now Is not what I look at you and see Sure. You know what I mean? He just says that I'm skinny, like yes, but what I see in the mirror is not a skinny person.

You know what I mean? Like, we still see the old versions of ourselves. And that's just a mental thing. Like, it's a mental... Do you feel, though, when somebody takes a great photo of you, you see it? Like, there's a huge difference between me looking at myself in the mirror versus me looking at a picture that somebody took of me. I can acknowledge when I look skinny in a photo.

But I can't acknowledge the same in the mirror. Yeah, 100%. And don't get me twisted. I'm fine as hell. Okay? You ain't got to tell me. I know I look the fuck Like you don't tell me that I'm ugly

Because I know I'm not That's why I never pursued music Because I was like you know what You can tell me a lot of things about me Like you can tell me that I'm not funny Because bitch I know I am My bank account says it You can tell me that I'm ugly

Because bitch I know I'm not But if you tell me I can't sing My feelings will be hurt So it's just like It's crazy how little things Yeah Like can trigger us so So

It's the thing about comedy And I've heard it said before Is that it's the closest thing to just Because if it doesn't get a laugh, it wasn't funny. Yeah. So you can point to proof, like, these people aren't coming to watch me flame out for 90 minutes. They're laughing at 50 shows in a year, and that's just the first part of the tour. Yeah.

But yeah, you're right. With music or anything like that. It's more vulnerable. What I like, you're allowed to not like. Yeah. That's scary. And that's the same thing with comedy, though, is like comedy is subjective. You know, like, you can go see a comedian perform a 90-minute set and laugh your ass off where

I might sit there and be like, that wasn't funny. Right. You know, like, I didn't find the humor in that. So it's a scary thing because you're like, help these bitches like me. Because they see, they see something on the internet. And like, what you see on the internet is not what you see at my show.

Like, I prepare them. I'm raunchy. Like, I get in the trenches. And I'm offensive. Like, I am waiting to get canceled. Like, what's, who are we offended? Yeah. Everybody.

What type of? Everybody. I'm offending everybody. Okay. When has the show gone truly off track or, like, off the rails where you were like that was wild even for me. There's a clip that I posted on my Instagram not long ago and it would blew up and people were eating me alive because there was a son and a father on the front

row of my show and two straight men coming to my show. You know, like I'm very aware that my audience is primarily women. Women spend money. I don't want an audience a full of men. They ain't going to buy no fucking merch. So like I'm here for it, but I'm like these two men and this, this guy, it's his son and his dad. And the son looks like he's fucking 40 years old.

Okay, but he was 18. And so I said, I was like, are y'all here together? And they were like, oh, I was like, wait, y'all are, you know, and he was like, no, that's my dad. I was like, oh, shit, I thought y'all was fucking, you know? Like, I had no idea. And I do a lot of crowd work. That's my favorite part to do in my show.

But I was like, wait a minute, how old are you? And he was like 18. And I was like, you look 40 years old. You know, like, I had no idea that you were 18. Like, I had no clue. And I don't have a filter, y'all. So if I think it, I say it. And I was like, wait, how tall are you?

And he was like, six, five. I was like, bitch, stand up. And he stood up and I got off the stage and I was like, I was like, oh, you is, I would climb you like a tree, you know. And the internet ate me alive for that. And they were like, that's disgusting. He's 18. I'm like, first off, bitch, he ain't even my type.

It's called comedy. It's called, you know, reading the room. Everybody thought it was hysterical. I said, suck off. He's legal. So suck my ass. Yeah. Like, it is.

Also, also just suck my ass in general. Like, fuck these people. Fuck these people. Fuck them. Yeah, that's right. Fuck them. I love it too. Fuck them.

And the most important. Fuck them. Go get them, Ben. You tell them. Fuck them. You tell them. Ben, should we do a speak pipe? A what?

Fuck them. Yes. Yes, we should. Welcome to our show. So a speak pipe is basically we have people call in and leave messages for the show. They're asking for advice, things that they need us. to like, you know, just some insight from the good guys. And now we have three great guys here.

So let's hear. The first one is going to be from someone great. By the way, go to speakpipe.com slash good guys if you want to leave us a message. This first one is from, I swear to go. Okay. This one's from Joy. Hi, Josh and Ben. This is Joy.

Josh, I just want to let you know that you are my first crush as a kid. Nobody at school compared to you. Chubby Chaser. She was trying to fuck. I loved you from a court. shit, overweight guys. I want to know what you think. I wonder why I picked this one.

I just turned 32 and my dating life has been a little dry lately. So I'm trying to make a point of being more active. Oh, she's trying to fuck things. Handling things. And I recently had a guy I went to high school with reach out to me and I had a crush on him. And I guess he had a crush on me too. And we had a bit of a phone date and it went really well. It lasted several hours.

Oh, lasted several hours. And he started getting really warm. weird and talking about his healthy sexual appetite and how he expected a partner to participate in activity every day. Now, I was caught off guard because it didn't relate to anything we had been previously talking about. And the word expect made me feel uncomfy. So I want to you know what you think. Is it too long ago to try and see if there's any spark there? And is this just a booty call? or should I pursue this and see where things go. See if it's a romantic chemistry.

She's pissing me off. Go off. She's pissing me off. Like, she's pissing me off. Bitch just said her coochie has been dry for how long and a man is trying to fucks. And she's like, I'm just uncomfy. You can pick one or the other ho.

You cannot be on both ends of the spoke. Like, come on. Yes. I'm pissed. Oh. Agreed. Honest, ho. So, Josh, Josh, I'd be pissed if I was page two.

She says, I love you, Josh. By the way, I've been sexually inactive for quite some time. Nah, he's taken. What? Do you think she's, Joy's trying to get me. She's trying to get it. Yes, she is. No, Joy.

No, joy. Yeah, she is. Joy came on and said, Josh, I had a huge crush on you. By the way, I haven't had sex in a while. She also had a huge crush on her. She's got crushes on everybody. But I have a resentment against people who had crushes on me back in the day because I think they're a little bit too accepting.

Here's the thing. Where did he mention that he wants to be sexually active every day? Because if they're like at Benahanas and he's like, you know what I like to do? Fuck. You know what I'm saying? And I'll have the fried rights. It's weird. Yeah.

No, by the way, he definitely sounds like a bit of a creeper. But to Matt's point, she's saying that she wants to have sex with people. Choose one or the other. If you want to be. Yeah, bitch. You wanted a guy to fuck you. Now he's fucking you. And now you don't want him to fuck you.

If you're going to be virgin Mary, then be virgin Mary. Like, nobody is, hey, nobody's shaming you for being a Virgin Mary, but don't try to say, I got cobwebs on my cooge, but I don't want anybody to fuck me. Yes. Baby, you got to choose. She's bipolar. You got to choose. Yes, and we're sponsored by bipolar medication. We are?

No, but we should be. This next one is from, this is an update. Okay. This is from a woman who called us said she was moving in with her girlfriend that she had only a two-month relationship with, that they were leasing in a part of. together. Okay. And she wanted advice about how it was going to go and we said horribly. Let's, I said it would be a bad idea. No good. Let's hear from Allie. Hey, guys, it's Ali again. I sent you a speak pipe once ago and Ben roasted me and tore me apart. And Josh told me that my girlfriend might be growing marijuana in the closet. Well,

turns out it was a horrible decision. I will never do anything against y'all's judgment. Again, It's been terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible. Had it called the cops. It's been a whole mess. And I'm stuck in a lease unless I can get out of it. Long story. I just wanted to give you an update and also ask your opinion on Chapel Rown because I would love to hear Ben talk about her and her performance with Olivia. Love you guys.

Goodbye. Okay. Wow. I'm just saying you want to talk about manifestation. The fact that she brought back up Chapel Rhone. I think, I think me and Chapel are going to end up being friends. I see that. I think we might.

We might perform together. You might end up being. friends. Now, the reason that Josh and I didn't like this is because you don't know somebody after two months and living with them, she could have killed her in the middle of the night. I don't know what happened. This is true, but in her defense, I truly am a believer in like when you click with somebody and you just know, like, that something can work because my husband moved in with me after four months. Wow. And we've been together for 10 years. How'd you guys meet? On Grindr. No. Yeah. Okay, same more. By the way. Yeah. Great. Yeah. And was it just

Trying to get this. No. So he wanted a hookup. Right. I had already been such a ho. And I was like, why can't I keep nobody? Like, I'm cute. I got a good personalities.

You know, so like, got a couple good personalities. But, like, I didn't understand why I couldn't keep nobody. And I was watching a million dollar matchmaker. And she said, no sex before monogamy. Is that the one with Patty Stanger? Let me tell you something. If I ever meet Patty, she's a crazy bitch. But I have to hug her because I'm married because of her.

Wow. She's a legend Patty. And she is, she just did my world right. But I was doing a lot of adult activity, but I couldn't keep anybody. And so finally, he messaged me. He's trying to get a little something, something, because he was in town for a wedding. And I was like, not happening. So we talked for like back and forth, built a connection, started dating.

And we didn't have sex for four months until we were official. That was the first man that I had never, like, went on a date with, like, or didn't just like, if I wasn't, if I was attracted to him, I just didn't hook up with them. Yeah. First man that I made wait four months until we were officially like together monogamous before we started like doing the thing. Bitch, he put a ring on it. And we've been together for 10 years.

So it worked. Wow. Yeah. It's like Taylor Swift lyrics. Yeah. It's a love song. That was beautiful. Did you know, I heard this recently and tell me guys what we all think.

And please, Olivia, feel free to weigh in on this. Two men getting married. The odds of success are only 25% as of today end in divorce. A man and a woman, it's 48% divorce. Two women, 72% divorce. Damn. Thoughts on these statistics? Okay, so I'm going to be...

You go ahead. You first. No, I was going to say, so you're saying that the chances of divorce of a gay married couple is the lowest. Yes. Yeah. And lesbians is the highest. Indeed. Yeah, because there's a lot of emotion there.

I was going to say, I can't opine. Are you married? Matt, you go first. I'm married. I've been married for seven years. Okay. To a woman? my wife and we've been together for 12 years.

Okay. I think that if you marry the right person, then it's great. Okay. I can't even fathom being married to the wrong fucking person. I'd want to kill myself. So I'm kind of nervous to even say this because I've never said this. I've never,

I don't talk about it publicly because it's, you know, like, I'm waiting to get canceled for it. So my husband and I've been together for 10 years. Very incredible marriage. Incredible. Like, I'm obsessed with him. He's obsessed with me. We are very, we have incredible communication.

Like, the longer we've been together, the better our relationship has gotten. And I am, I think, more emotionally. So I am more emotional. He is more straight up dude. Like, drinks his beer, like, you know, straight up. I'm married to a straight man. Yeah. That just likes, you know, penis.

So he encouraged me for a minute, you know, to be a little ho. You know? Now, I never would because I'm like, no, not happening. And then I met this guy and clicked. And I'm like, what the fuck? And so we were like, we can't be together because I'm married, you know? But then, like, we were just best friends. What does be a, be a whole mean?

Like, fuck other people. Okay, so he wanted to open up the relationship. No, he didn't want it to open up. He just wanted me to like, yeah. So, I mean, I mean, y'all don't have to use this if you don't want. Like, I've never said this publicly, but I'm just like, we're just talking about it. So I became best friends with this guy. And like, but, I mean, immediately clicked.

So he came and, like, spent the weekend with us and, like, him and my husband clicked. Like, not, not romantic. just like best, like he's also like, I'm going to drink a beer, like, dude, redneck. Three Mormons clicking. And, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, let's do this. So they became like really good friends. And my husband's like, you should try, like, see what happens, like relationship.

And I'm like, wait, what? Thruple. Yeah, but my husband and him weren't romantic. It was just me and him. But he would be part of the system. Yeah, he's a part of the system, but they're not romantic. They're just friends. And when I tell y'all, it made me and my husband even closer.

Insane. Now, it was the crazy show. I've ever done in my life because I'm like I've never in my million or something that I would never do that like because I'm not interested in other you know what I mean but it made me realize that like people you can you can be in love with more than one person you know like I truly believe that and

it made me and my husband so much closer and I don't know I think maybe because like there was another level of happiness that I had because of my husband because I would never done it if he didn't want me to right but that's what we're talking about is like gay marriages to me and the statistics being lower because

like for me I'm emotional my husband husband's not. So there was no jealousy. Like, he's not jealous of anything because he was so confident and secure in our relationship and our marriage that he was like, I'm not worried about it. Like, you do you, you know? Yeah. And like, you, you had to say it before I said it, but there are just different rules for gay men than there are for straight men. Like, it's just different. Like, there is, I think, so much more experimenting. Like, it's acceptable. Like they're just... I don't know that I have...

You don't think that it's a gay thing because there's a lot of straight couples out there that are open and like there's, you know what I mean? But they won't talk about it. They don't talk about it. Yeah. In the same way. And I don't really talk about it just because my life is so public, you know?

And like half of my fans would probably be like, oh my God, that's an affair, which is not because my husband knew exactly everything. You know what I mean? Like I never hid anything from him. And like me and that guy are still best friends. Like, you know, like we are... Everything is great. Like, we have a great relationship.

But I think at the end of the day, it all just comes down to the person, you know? Right. Sure. I mean, it sounds. So then what's wrong with the lesbians? There's so much emotion there. You know, like, and I have a lot of emotion because I, I think more like a woman where my husband is definitely a dude. He doesn't have that.

And like both of them, like they are very much dudes. Like, whereas I am very jealous. I am very overthinking. I am very like, I have all of those. And majority of women, that's how they feel as well. You know, like, they're emotional. And, like, emotions make or break relationships. But do you think I would argue that Josh and I are the emotional ones in our relationships.

Yeah. I mean, I didn't say everybody, but it is like, I mean, because there's a lot of women that think like dudes. I'm a dude, but I think like a woman. But I think my, I would venture to guess that my wife would hate both versions, but the thing that she would be more hurt by. And Olivia, if you feel freed away and you don't have to. But I think she would be even more hurt by me not just having a random romantic interlude with someone,

but more so that I was being vulnerable and had a new best friend relationship, right? Like an emotional connection with someone who was hearing about my life and that we were, you know, cuddling and affectionate. Because the physical part, maybe someone could chalk up to like, oh, you're just like at this disgusting. Yeah. But like the emotion part would kill her. Olivia, thoughts? Yeah.

You don't have to have them if you don't want to share. No, no, thank you. But yeah, I'd agree with that. I think, like, having that level of an emotional connection with somebody, it's so sacred in a relationship that that's, like, your number one, you know? Yeah. So I think that having, like, finding that out would be a lot more hurtful than just the physical element, although the physical element, like we talked about a few episodes back,

you know, also hurtful if it's not being discussed. And, you know, like you mentioned an open thing where there's communication and everybody's on the same page. Like to kind of have that, it would just, it'd make me feel left out. Yeah. And that's the thing too is like, I feel like, I mean, I know people in my life that not like friends or but I just know people that have been married for years and years and years. And they're like us being open like helped our relationship. Because like how do most most marriages end because they go fuck somebody, you know? And they cheat, you know, which I'm, that's not what I'm for.

And if my husband told me, hey, I want to get a boyfriend, I would be like, are you on the spectrum? Like, I would punch him dead in his, in his shit. Like, I would rock his shit, you know, because I'm jealous. Yes, I'm jealous. He's not. Sure. So, like, jealousy plays the big part. But what if he said?

What if he was like, well, there's got to be some reciprocity here, Mitch? There's nothing. No. No. Wow. Absolutely the fuck not. You're, you're mine.

You're like an emotional Tony Soprano. I love it. I'm a psychopath. Yes. I actually have a, I start seeing a therapist next week, okay? Oh, welcome. Yeah.

So, because I, like, it is, there's just, oh, God, this, y'all, this could be five podcasts long, but you're not going to get me back in New, I mean, back in L.A.,

so you're going to have to Zoom, bitch. We'll come to Alabama. Come on. Yes, we'll do a remote app. Period. Love it. I mean, there's just a,

there's a lot that goes on there, You know, and like, I don't, I mean, I can't speak for everybody, but like emotions, jealousy, how people think, you know, their mindsets is different for everybody. And so I feel like that's the biggest component. And I have friends, because I have like couples, friends in their 30s, early 40s, right? So they kind of get to that point where their kids are grownish, right? Like preteens, early teens. And the relationship has sort of gone astray for a while, wasn't working for a long time. and then suddenly you hear so-and-so are open, right?

And they're trying this. And my issue with it always is you never hear the reverse. You never hear, it was going so well with the two of us. We were so in love that we said, let's bring in another. Like, let's open this thing, right? It's usually the last stop before divorce. Because it's like things are so bad. We're not connecting.

We're not communicating. Fuck, let's just try this because divorce is so much paperwork. Yeah. Yeah. So it's hard. But I mean, it was kind of the opposite. opposite for me. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like me and my husband incredible. No, it sounds like, no, this is why straight people suck. I mean, like, that's what I was trying to say. What is so

funny is everybody says, your husband's incredible. Like, how do we get a rob? You know, like, how do we, because everybody's like, I wish I could have a boyfriend, you know what I mean? Like, but I think it, like, it all works because I think that you can, I believe, because I've experienced it, that you can love more than one person. Like, at the end of the day, we're fucking mammals, right? Like, mammals aren't typically, they're not meant to be monotivine. You know what I mean? Like the only monogamous mammal is a penguin, I think. Penguins are monogamous?

That's the only, that's the only one. That is so cute. That is so cute. And they get their color from shrimp. Yeah. Period. So, you know what I mean? So I think it's just, it always depends on the person, number one.

But like, me being with somebody else. And like, this is TMI, but I don't give a fuck because I put my life out there for the world. Like, we were, like, we never really were intimate. Like, because we weren't, we didn't date, like, really for a long, for. very long time. And it's all about not like she said like leaving somebody out. Like it's all about, you know, like communication and always including other people, everybody's feelings. You know what I mean? So like you don't ever leave somebody out and make them feel unwanted, you know. And for me, it was the hardest for me because I have two people

that I adore, that I love, that love me. And I have to give both of them my time and my affection and my energy, you know, where they just had me. Right. So they didn't have to fuck with each other. You know, like, I just had two people, but I'm like, I'm a bad bitch. I can do it. Um, it sounds like a new show like brother, brother husbands. Truly. You know what I mean? You know, I watch it. It was, I mean, it's, I mean, it's definitely. And people are, people are so going to judge me and they're so going to, you know, like, whatever. But at the end of the day, like, my thing is, if you're happy, then people judge me for being gay my whole life. You know what I mean? So like, who the really, who gives the fuck? What's my

thing? If you, if you, if you don't pay my bills or give me orgasms, your opinion of me is irrelevant. It's what I tell Ben. I also don't know why they would judge you. The key here that you've mentioned a hundred times is honesty. You didn't do anything behind anybody's backs. The problem with us, with the straight people, is we exclusively do things behind other people's backs. And then it comes back to bite us in the ass. So I told somebody was judging me telling me that it was I should do better.

I'm in the public eye. I shouldn't be promoting. I said, first of all, I'm doing what everybody else was doing. My husband just knows about it. I said, you're promoting honesty. You all do all this shit behind. Y'all just be cheating. But I also,

what I also would say is those couples in my life who were like kind of having their sojourned into opening relationships, what they hated was that people were talking about it. And I wanted to be like, uh-uh. Like, you can't, you can have both, but you can have the suburban experience

with your kids and the wife and the PTA and the whole thing. But if you're going to be open, people are going to talk about that too. Right. You can't just have like perfect little marriage. and then on the side, y'all are just randomly hooking up with people.

And here's the, like, here's what I feel about that too is because people, everybody told me my family, his family, you know, all three of our families, that's never going to work. It's never going to work. It's never going to work. That's not normal. I said, why is it not normal?

Because it's not normal. It's not normal because we were taught. We do what we're taught. We're our religious beliefs are our religious beliefs because we're taught to believe them. Our political beliefs are typically our political beliefs because we're taught to believe them.

I'm like, we were taught that relationships are normal with two people. But if you're not taught that, it's not a learned behavior. Like, then why is it not normal, you know? Right. It's probably because we've benefited from the evolution of relationship. Right? And that, like, when you put a healthy level of stress on something, it's like it forges a diamond. Yeah.

So that in some, not all cases, but in many cases, That was beautiful. That was beautiful. I'm here, babe. I'm here to help. That was beautiful. Wow. That was beautiful.

So that was beautiful. And I agree. And I, and I totally agree. I will say though that I will say though that not everything like there is not a one size fits all here. Like what is normal for most is not normal for all. And so it really is just about. I mean, I would say this like if it if it if it never worked with the three of us,

I would never do it again. You know what I mean? Like it was just it was just that person. You know, that person just fit our life. What preceded? this, like for Rob to just one day go, try it. Can you pinpoint anything? I don't fucking know. It's interesting, right? He just woke up one day. And he thinks that I'm the crazy person because I'm so jealous. And I'm like, you realize you're the crazy person. Right. Like, most people,

99% of the world does not want their partner having sex with somebody else. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not the crazy person for being a psychopath that's jealous of my husband, like potentially being with somebody else. Sure. You know? No, normal. I was like, that's the normal. That's normal. You're not normal. But it's, I also believe that love is a choice. Love is not a decision. I mean, sorry, love is not a feeling. You don't, you don't wake up.

It's not butterflies and rainbows forever. You have to wake up every single day and choose to love that person and choose to be with that person through all the bullshit, through everything that life throws at you, and you choose to be with them forever. So like, it has to be, there's so much that goes into a real, I need a talk show. This is beautiful. Like, damn. This podcast has been funny. This podcast has been deep.

Like, truly. I'm just saying we are killing it. And we have one final segment. Josh, you want to introduce it? Yes. So our final segment is called What Do You Nuts? And it's our gripes with people, places, and things. Just like something that's annoying us, sticking in our craw, big or small, can be anything.

We'll start so you can think about yours. But there are no wrong answers with Woody and Nuts. And considering you hate people, like this should be incredibly easy for you. But I will start. I was walking to the studio today, and I passed this parking lot every day. I've never really noticed. They had a new special. And it said $28.

And I'm like, oh, in the city, that's pretty cheap. If you park between 4 and 8 a.m. What do you fuck is parking at 4? Who's staying between 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock in the morning? What kind of a special is this? The duration, 4 to 8. Not park there and you get it for 28 bucks. If you stay between 4 and 8 a.m., it's $28.

I thought that was fun. My Woody and Nuts is I was working out at the gym the other day, the Great Equinox, I don't mean to brag. I'm not in LA Fitness, so, and I see. Are you sponsored? I am. Okay, that's what I thought. And so there's this guy and he's in front of the free weights, like, yeah, the free weights. And he's one inch away from the free weights doing shoulder raises.

He's raising an inch away. So now I have to go, because you know, I got to get over to the 15s because we go heavy. Yeah. I'm going, can I, can I get? And finally, I just have to go and walk away. Move away. Yeah. Move, bitch.

Don't block the fucking free weights. And it made me upset. What are you nuts? I have to. Can I do two? Okay. So my first one is people that stand up on the airplane as soon as it fucking lands. Yeah.

Like, bitch, we're all going to the same. Sit your ass down. I'm manifesting a private jet because I can't take it no more. Like that. Private is it. That pisses me off. Like, we ain't even got to the gate yet and you're standing. sit your ass down.

Yes. I can't stand that. Number two is I can't stand entitlement. People, like, I was on a plane a couple weeks ago and there were ladies in like a couple rows up

and they were like holding their phone up to take a picture of me and I was just like, I felt so uncomfortable the whole flight because like I looked up and they just snapped pictures and like,

I could hear them talking and I'm like, if you just asked for a picture like I would have been fine to take a picture. But like, it's just the level of entitlement that people have. You know, I'm like,

bitch, Where is my, where is my, like, do you still deal with that, like today? Like, how does that work for you? Like, going in public dealing with the public people? Yeah, I mean, 95% of interactions are lovely, which I would imagine is the same for you. Right. 95 is, yeah, I think. Yeah. But then some people be peopling.

Yeah. I love when people will say to me, I remember a guy once said, hey, man, are people in showbiz assholes? And I was like, it's just like the world. Like, there are plenty of assholes and a lot of great people. Are people at Waffle House assholes? Yeah, some of them are. Yeah, exactly. Most.

Yeah. Definitely the guy in the grill. Yeah. He's good. That short order cook's giving me bad eye contact. He's pissed. So good. I miss a Waffle House.

But yeah, it's just, but then there are people, the few times I've had people put a phone in my face, like, where it will start on me. And I'll, like, I won't grab the phone, but I'll literally push the phone away from me because it feels like such an invasion. Yeah. Yeah. It's just that, and that's a, I think it's an entitlement thing of, like, they see you on the internet so they believe that they're your best friend. And that's what I think, like, I love those people

because without them, I would not be successful. Totally. We wouldn't have these careers if it weren't for the people that supported us. But some people just need to chill the fuck out. So that's my, those are my two, those are my two things. What are you not? Where can people find you? I know that we're talking about bougie on a budget, but where can they find? And what else are we promoting? Candles? Go to town. Matt Matthews.com for all of the tour. and clothing and... Boudoir photos? Natural candles.

Listen, I went to your website before this. Yeah. I was getting a little turned on. Yeah. These boudoir photos and these lovely Alabamians? I mean, they don't even... Most of our clients are from all over the world. Like, they travel now.

Like, it's not even... Are you going to come do one? Yes. Do it for your wife. Yes. Can I just, can I wear a turtleneck? I'm covering up. Yeah.

Sure. I mean, the first thing that went to my mind was turtleneck. You know, sometimes. I think like when I say turtleneck, I'm sure. I hear that. So yeah, Matt Matthews.com, Matt underscore Matthews on all socials. You know, we out here checking our tities. Just a random question before you go.

Did you listen to the S-Town podcast? Yeah. John B. McElwold. It was right next. That's the town I live in. Bib County? Mm-hmm. You live in Bibb County?

Oh, my. We have so much to talk about. Is that one of the greatest pods ever made? It was pretty good. You know that Little Caesars? Yes. At either all the time. That Little Caesar's Big Sur?

Lumber. K3 Lumber? It's right. It's five minutes from my house. All right. Just end the show, Ben. I need to talk to that alone. Until next time, folks. Matt, thank you so much for joining us. It was fantastic. Folks, you can get our podcast wherever you get podcast. Spotify, Apple. Make sure to rate us five stars. If not, what are you nuts? Listen to us. Spotify Apple, watch us on Josh's YouTube. Share our clips, TikTok and Instagram, Mondays and Thursdays. Matt, thank you. We'll see you next time. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services.

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