Good Job, Brain! - 108: Oh Baby!
Episode Date: May 1, 2014BIG NEWS! Chris is going to be a dad! We're celebrating his big news with an episode filled with facts and quizzes about babys, kids, and one nightmare animal. Grab a train ticket to Whoville for Chri...s' Dr Seuss quiz, and learn how Target uses the magic of data to know when you're pregnant before anybody else. Dana reminds us that we are the worst at Oscars superlatives in her young Oscars quiz. Colin has a lullaby rock cover music round, and Karen shares some cool names for baby animals. And as promised, one nightmare animal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, squishy and squeezable squabbling squires.
Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast.
This is episode 108, and of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your practically praiseworth
be prancy pranksters.
I'm Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm the squishiest of all.
And, uh, well, let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz, hot shot.
And you guys have your Barnyard Buzzers. I have a random Trivial Pursuit card from the box.
Uh, here we go, Blue Wedge for Geography. Uh, what San Francisco bookstore was founded by
beat poet Lawrence Ferlingetti.
Oh, wow. You guys.
City Lights.
What's special about the bookstore?
It's just, they're like the landmark bookstore of the beat generation.
Yeah, Ginsberg and Kerouac and for the strip clubs.
Interesting.
All right.
Pink Wedge for pop culture.
What duo wrote the movies Fargo, Raising Arizona, and Blood Simple?
Joel and Ethan Cohen.
Yes.
I've never heard of Blood Simple.
Is that earlier or recent?
That was their first movie.
That was the first movie.
All right.
Yellow Wedge.
who was the first female
U.S. Speaker of the House
Chris
Nancy Pelosi
Correct
And Purple Wedge
What Comic Strip character
shares a name
With a muddy rock festival
Colin
Woodstock
Yes
From peanuts
What kind of bird is Woodstock
Do we know?
Canary?
He has like a crazy hair
Yeah
He's got hair like Callin
From Talbot
No one knows
What kind of a dog?
a Snoopy, no one knows.
Beagle.
Beagle.
You just got trolled.
You just got Beagle trolled.
All right, Green Wedge
for Science.
What company was
originally known as
Minnesota Mining
and Manufacturing?
Everybody.
Three M.
Oh, I was going to say M&M's.
M and M and M.
M.
We got rid of one of the M's.
Don't ask what happened
at that third M's.
Last question.
Orange Wedge.
My name is Earl.
Jason Lee, also from Mallrats, in many other movies, was a professional athlete before becoming an actor.
What was his sport?
Hmm.
Oh, I just one.
He's not a big guy.
Like baseball or something, maybe?
That's not a bad, Jess.
You can call it a sport.
Oh, you can call it.
Chris.
Ultimate Frisbee.
No.
Golf?
No.
Swimming?
He was a professional skateboard.
border.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Oh, that.
Okay.
Well, good job, Brains.
And we have one lobe-trotter fact from one of our fans.
Loeb-trotters are our fan club members, and Ginger Turner wrote us a very cool
mnemonic for remembering when, for the very specific function of remembering when
J.R.
Tolkien died.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Tolkien, author of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, died in, not.
1973.
And how you can remember this, Ginger said, is reversing the numbers in the ring poem in the book.
So the poem...
Oh, oh, yeah.
Yeah, so three rings for the elven kings under the sky.
Seven for the dwarf lords in the Hall of Stone.
Nine for mortal men doomed to die.
And one for the dark lord on his dark throne.
And reverse, you know, it's three, seven, nine.
reverses 1-973, which is the year Tolkien died.
I appreciate the mnemonic, but there is no way that would help me.
Like, I have better luck just remember in 1970s.
Yeah, that's true.
But it's fun that it's connected to the poem.
And there's an intro, she wrote, bonus somewhat related fact.
It's kind of macaw.
C.S. Lewis, also famous author of the Narnia series, died on November 22nd, 1963.
which is the same day as J.F.K. was assassinated.
Oh.
Fun fact.
And then she goes, thanks, Karen, Dana, Colin, and Chris.
Death, death, death.
Bye.
Enjoy the show.
Well, thank you, Ginger.
Thanks, Ginger.
I don't think I'll forget those years.
I think I'll remember that.
I like your handwriting.
Yeah, very cool.
Thank you.
So, let's start the show this week.
Big exciting news inspired by you, Chris.
our theme for this episode.
Do you even remember?
I feel like you should.
Jerks throughout history.
Oh, no.
I prepared for the wrong show.
Squishy podcast hosts.
Well, I guess I can announce this to all of the good job brain listeners because my mom knows.
I wouldn't want to tell you before her.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
We're close.
But Regina, my wife and I are going to have a baby.
Yay.
Mostly Regina is going to happen.
How did it get there?
standing around how is it that's what how is babby formed um i really have no idea um i just informed
yeah and so um man this years of the show have witnessed your wedding that's right yeah yeah yeah now
now well not you're not peggers your wife is preggers right exactly yeah so they've seen me go from
it's not junior yeah yeah this week we decided and also actually we had a really fun sorry we had
we're all going to be pod parents the pod parents yeah yeah your pod mom pod yeah yeah yeah
A couple episodes ago, Dana had a really good quiz from a baby shower you went to.
So this week we decided to talk about kids and baby stuff.
That makes me realize when she said, don't worry, baby, don't worry, baby, everything will do not all right, baby, don't worry, baby.
So, let me tell you a little story.
At some point in the mid to late 2000s, a very angry man stormed into a Target store just outside of Minneapolis, Minnesota.
And he demanded to see the manager.
And he was, in the words of the New York Times, which reported this story, he was clutching a stack of coupons that had been sent to his home addressed to his high school age daughter.
He was young teenage daughter.
And he said, what are you people sending to my kids?
children. My daughter is in high school, and you are mailing her coupons for baby clothes
and baby cribs and baby formula. What are you trying to encourage the young people to get
pregnant because of hot deals at Target on these items? Now, a more level-headed person...
Because that's why kids are pulling around. That's why. That's why. Because of the deal.
Now, a more level-headed person who does not get angry at his junk mail and storm in a fit of
rage into the local target might have thought, oh, maybe they just, this is just the mailing list for
everybody.
Yeah.
Maybe they didn't just send it like, it's not hand address to his daughter.
Maybe it's just what everybody got and my daughter's on the mailing list.
And he really thought that they had targeted his daughter with these specific coupons in an
effort to encourage her to teen pregnancy.
Yeah, sure.
So, of course, the manager, you know, the customer is always right.
This guy might be a little loopy, but the manager apologizes profusely.
I'm so sorry, sir.
I don't know why these were sent to your daughter.
I'm very sorry, sir.
You know, please give us your business later.
And then the manager actually follows up a few days later to calls again.
We're really good customer service.
He's just like, I, this is, you know, so-and-so, the manager at Target.
You know, we had the incident a few days ago, and I really just again wanted to express my apologies.
And the dad is like, yeah, about that.
Yeah, it actually, yeah, my daughter is actually pregnant.
So the dad apologizes.
Oh, that's good. That's good.
And as it turns out, the dad was half right because Target did know that his daughter was pregnant.
And Target absolutely sent her those coupons because Target knew that she was going to have a baby.
Gee, how did Target know?
Well, let's take a trip back to Small Town America, as we always love to do.
When, you know, when you would visit your local store, you were on a
first name basis probably with the guy
behind the counter and you know
if you bought something you knew it and they
knew it they were sort of a they were the
holder of the town's secrets right
right they knew what everybody in the
town was up to because you had to come
to them to buy whatever it was so if you needed
cream for your bunions
I don't know bunyan sounds like an old timey thing
that's like bone
disalignment sure yeah
you don't put a cream well back in the day
that's why they were selling so much cream
I thought you're going to say hemorrhoid cream
so you're like if you need
I need cream for your butt.
I was like, butts.
Yeah, so let's say hemorrhoid cream.
Yeah, so I mean, you know, you need that.
So the local, the guy behind the counter, he was the keeper of all of the secrets.
Now, of course, in the modern day.
Now, and if they were smart, they'd try to anticipate your needs, you know, knowing what kind of a customer you were.
The modern day, Colossomart, big box store, impossible.
Too many things.
Too many things.
Too many people.
Millions of customers.
Different teenager behind the register.
Every day you go up there.
There's no way they could do it.
But if you're paying with a credit card,
then you are handing them your data.
You are handing them every single thing that you've ever bought,
and then you're giving them your name.
And they have all of that data.
It's there.
They've got it.
The question is, you have all of this data.
What are you going to do with it?
You can analyze it after the fact.
You can look at, you know, what items do different customers buy together, you know,
so we'll have a sale on both those things or put them closer together or further apart.
Right. I mean, you know, they have it all and people are just handing it to them so they can kind of use that data.
But the Holy Grail for Target was, can we predict what you're going to buy in the future based on past purchases?
The real Holy Grail was, can we figure out based on your current purchases if you are going to have a baby?
Because as soon as people have babies, they need a whole bunch of stuff.
They're going to start spending all kinds of money.
And what people were doing was going to people saying, hey, do you have a baby shop here?
But if they could go to you beforehand and say, hey, are you going to have a baby shop here?
Then they're hitting you while you're still pregnant, right?
So they can get to you potentially first.
And what happens is when you have that big life change, they have the opportunity to bring you in and make you a customer, not just for the baby stuff, but everything else.
You know, because you're already going there for your baby stuff, right?
You've got to pick a baby stuff place.
So what are these items?
What are these clues?
What are these clues?
So basically Target had an in-house statistician, and this is the guy who was profiled by the New York Times and this big thing.
And they asked him, like, you know, is this possible?
And he put a prediction model together.
So he started with, you know, besides the credit card, you know, information, people would voluntarily give info to Target.
So, for example, they would set up their baby registry at Target.
And that involves giving them your name and all this stuff you're going to buy.
So he kind of starts there.
And he doesn't just look at what's on that list, but he looks at, okay, well, the people that
set this up, you know, what else have they purchased?
Unsented lotion, unsented soap, cotton balls, vitamin supplements, cocoa butter, people
who started buying these things, he could ascertain if they really stepped up their purchases
of them over a period of time.
He figures, you know what, I think that they're pregnant.
Not only that, he worked on this model.
This model got so good that not only could he figure.
you're out of a customer was pregnant, he could take a stab at their due date.
He could get it to, like how far in advance they would start buying it.
Get it to within a couple of months because they start, yeah, yeah.
That's the magic here is that you've got thousands and thousands and thousands of people and you can look through the historical data.
Yeah.
Right. So now, okay, so now they've got a model and they have figured out they can predict when someone's due date is and they have their address, they have their information and they can start sending them promotions that are geared towards this.
So what do they do?
You know, what do you do?
You put together a coupon book that's like, hey, congratulations on your baby.
Consider shopping at Target for all of this baby stuff.
Here's some great deals for you.
This turns out to be the worst possible idea because people got freaked out.
It's so scary.
It would be so scary, right?
How do you know I'm pregnant?
I don't tell anybody I'm pregnant.
How are you sending this thing telling me, hey, here you're a bun in the oven.
My father doesn't know, but Target knows.
Right, exactly.
So they tried it on a very small scale.
They kind of did an, you know, A-B test, and that was all.
and that did not work.
But this is what they did.
They're like, oh, here's a coupon book
from Target. And then it's like, here's a deal
on blank CDRs. Here's
a deal on diapers. Here's a deal on
whiskey. Here's a deal on baby formula.
So they kind of scatter
it. Yeah. It was heavily
baby stuff themed, but with enough other
completely unrelated
items in there, this
has been a colossal
success for them.
Like, billions with a B.
Like, that is how much more money they are now making.
They don't, they don't, like, break it out, you know, in their reports.
But, like, it's been pointed out that, like, they have huge revenue increases and they will call out, like, we're doing really well in the mom and baby department.
It's funny, there was, I couldn't really independently research this, but they note in the New York Times article, like, for some reason, people get into habits with their shopping.
They just go to the same place.
They buy the same stuff, right?
If there is a major life event, like, you get married, you move in with someone, you get divorced, you know, you have a baby, you graduate from school.
Like, when you have a major psychological, like, life event happened to you, that is the moment where you might actually also start totally changing your shopping behavior.
going to new stores, buying new things you haven't bought before.
There was something in there about, like, when people get married, they start buying different coffee.
Like, just weird stuff like that.
Oh, it's compromised coffee, right?
Or he's and her coffee.
Yeah, well, where you're just like, oh, that wouldn't have been the coffee I picked,
but I think the other person likes it, and I think they did it too.
And it's like, all right, we'll just pick the...
Oh, Henry.
Yeah.
So it is about predicting major life changes.
and trying to capitalize on that opportunity
because the business is going to go to somebody.
How do you going to go to you?
I have a quiz for you guys about children who are nominated in one
or nominated and lost Academy Awards.
The youngest Academy Award nominees and winners,
which comes up in trivia.
A lot.
Yeah, enough that we should know the answers to these questions.
A little caveat.
You have to listen really carefully for category
and like whether nominee or winner
because they're different qualifiers
but there's a pool of kids you should know about
okay
they're watching you when you sleep
there's a whole pool of kids
get them out of the pool
I've been in a pool full of kids and I can tell you
don't yeah
no no don't submerge your head
you used to be a camp counselor
I did I did and I don't think
we were the first ones to do this
but we would tell the kids every year
There's a special chemical in the pool
That would change color if they pee in the pool
So people will know, right?
Well, hopefully, yeah.
So everyone would know there'd be a bright red cloud around you.
I was in the pool once and this girl was like,
wait a minute, I have to go to the bathroom.
I was like, okay.
And then I saw her get out and then just walked to another area of the pool
and get back in.
And I was like,
Ah!
Puller kids!
But we mean a metaphorical pool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
All right.
First question.
who was the first child
winner of an academy award
everybody
Shirley Temple
it was a non-competitive
Oscar
it was an achievement award
she won when she was six years old
a lifetime achievement
a year six all down hill are from here again
no one lifetime achievement
but it was a special achievement
but it wasn't her versus other kids
and she won it was like
they created it just to honor her
they felt weird about nominating her for an
actual Academy Award because she was six years old.
Right.
She's so good.
She did such a good job.
Anyway, all right.
In 2002, at the age of 12, this girl became the youngest ever Oscar nominee for Best Actress.
She held this title until 2013 when another actress took the honor of the youngest person nominated.
Oh, me.
Who was the one in 2002, and then who was the one in 2013?
Lead actress?
Best Actress.
Best Actress.
Yeah.
Not supporting.
Oh, that is late.
Okay.
That's too late.
That's too late.
That's too late.
I was thinking it was Natalie Portman, but that's too late.
Um, I say Keisha, uh, whale rider.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you're so close.
Oh.
You're thinking of Rudy from the Cosary show.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Keisha Night Polyum.
No.
Shearer Knightley.
But, yeah.
Keisha Castle Hughes.
Yeah.
Castle, not night.
Yeah.
It's so close.
Kisha Castle Hughes.
And it was overtaken.
Yes.
In 2013.
Is that Kavanaugh-A Wallace?
From Vennon-A-Wallis.
For Bees of the Southern Wild.
Yeah, she was nine, so cute.
It was so cute.
All right.
The youngest person nominated for an Academy Award ever was Justin Henry, who was nominated for an Oscar when he was eight.
What movie was he in?
Justin Henry?
Yes.
Oh.
Eight.
Oh.
What's that?
Isn't that E.T?
No.
Wait for what category?
That was Henry.
Thomas.
Here's the thing.
Have we heard of this movie?
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
To kill a mockingbird.
It was Kramer versus Kramer.
Oh.
Yeah.
He was young Kramer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Last question.
Put these people in order from oldest to youngest at the time of their nomination for an
Oscar.
Okay.
They were all nominated for supporting actress.
Okay.
All right.
We have Tatum O'Neill.
We have Jody Foster, Anna Pacquin, and Abigail Breslin.
Oldest to youngest
I believe oldest was Jody Foster
I think she was 15
I think Tatum O'Neill was
11
She was at the time she was the youngest
I think Tadem O'Neill was 11 or 10
And then Anna Pacquine was 9
Well here's the thing
Well Anna Pacquine was the youngest
In the movie she appeared in
But when she won the award
The movie hadn't come out for a while
Right right
She was the youngest
Tatum O'Neill, I think, was like a year older than she was.
And so I would have to go with Jody Foster, Abigail, Breslin, Tatum O'Neill, Anna Pac-Win.
I say switch the last two for me.
I agree with Chris.
I think that's the, yeah.
So it was Jody Foster, who was 14 years and 83 days old.
For taxi driver?
For a taxi driver, yes.
Then came Anna Pacquin for the piano, who was 11 years old in 200 days.
Yeah, it got down to days.
Because the next person was Abigail Breslin, Little Miss Sunshine, who is 10 years old, and 284 days.
She was almost 11.
She was like 100 days out from 11 or so.
And then came Tatum O'Neill for a paperman.
For paperman.
Tatum O'Neill was the youngest, and she's held this record for 40 years.
Wow.
Cool.
Good job, you guys.
So, of course, in this baby kid, child, offspring episode, I want to talk about non-human babies.
offspring and maybe a little bit of a nightmare animal later um but before that that means yes
yeah that means we're going to get the nightmare not a little bit yeah not maybe yeah there will
be yeah it will haunt your dreams and before i talk about the harris three spot moth uh i want
to share with you guys you know how like we we talked about in the show many times like groups
of animals have have named sure right right a parliament of owls yeah was a rumba of snakes right
So they're also very specific baby names for different animals.
Oh, sure.
Puppie, pup, kitten for cats.
Calf.
So here I have a list of interesting names for baby animals that we don't really see every day.
I think they're funny.
So cow, you said calf, right?
Calf is a baby cow.
There is another name for a motherless calf, a specific name.
And I didn't know.
I came across this.
I was like, is this real?
it's dogey
Like get a long little dogy
Yeah
Like get a long little doggie
Yeah
Like in the old western songs
Yeah
Wow so they're not time about doggies
Little orphaned cows
So it's an orphan
They're the same
Makes much more sense now
Right
Well we know baby chickens
Are called chicks
There's also specific
Young Girl chick
And Young Boy chick
A pull it
For a young girl chick
young hen and a cockerel
I heard of that
I've heard these names and I didn't know what they meant
Yeah interesting
Pullet and cockerel
Pullet and cockerel
A young eel
It's called an elver
Oh
You guys are all
They look slimy and gross
But they're baby
It's a cool word yeah
Yeah yeah babyums are all
Yeah also all babies are slimy and gross
So that's fine
That's true
Yeah at one point
This one maybe because English is my second language
I didn't know
A baby fish is fry
Small fry
And I was like
That I always thought like
Small fry was like
An actual potato fry
And it's very small
Oh like a little brown
Yeah it's like oh I don't care about
That's a small fry
Yeah that's a
Which is funny
Because another bonus
Another name for a young fish is fingerly
And I think a fingering potato
So it's all like potatoes in my head
A young hair
A baby hair is a leveret
Oh that's a good word
Leveret.
These are great words.
How do you fill that one?
L-E-V-E-R-E-T.
That's a good scrabble word.
Leveret.
That's a really good one.
Young Oyster, baby oyster, is a spat.
I think it might be in the Alice in the Lerland poem.
So Peacock is very funny because peacock is the animal peacock is really referring to the boy.
And of course, their baby is a pea chick chick.
Pea chick.
So cute.
Not a chick-pee.
A pea chick-chid.
A peach chick.
A swan baby.
Oh, a signet.
Yeah.
Signet.
All right, here we go.
Baby animals are usually really cute.
And I don't know if you, I don't think I've ever shared this on the show, but you guys know.
My diet is very strange.
I'm not really a vegetarian.
I'm an uglierian.
I eat animals.
I don't eat animals I find cute.
I eat animals I find ugly.
So I'll eat shrimp, but I won't eat ducks because I think ducks are cute.
Cows and pigs are cute.
Most mammals are cute.
And the thing is, if the baby version is cute, then I will not eat that animal.
So most baby animals are very cute.
Not this one.
So I want to introduce you this species called the Harris Three Spot Moth.
It's just a, you know, kind of like a standard moth that has three brown spots on it.
So the Harris Three Spot Moth, the caterpillar of it, it's supposed to look like bird poop.
Okay.
It's supposed to look like discarded animals.
What color?
It's brown with white spots or white colorations that look like bird poop or poof.
It saves it from predators.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a camouflage technique.
And even the shape, you think of capital as like a plump long thing?
No, it's weird and nightmare and gnarly.
And it has like these weird, not thorns or the spindles that come out.
It's gross.
As caterpillars, they molt, right?
They have to replace their casing and skin.
And what this caterpillar does is it keeps the head.
head skin and it would save it on one of the spindles coming out from the body multiple of them
various molds so it would be a caterpillar with three dried head molds like heads on pikes up at a
head on pikes a they have camouflage going for them b if they do get threatened they'll thrash
around and it looks like the heads are moving and it's like kind of like violent jerks and it might
scare people away that is yeah
That's pretty freaky.
I need to see a picture now.
Well, there's video of it's thrashing, so I have fun with that.
Let me ask you guys, how old were you guys when you had your first jobs?
And I'm not talking about, like, lemonade stand.
I'm talking about you did some work, and someone not your parents gave you money for that work.
And taxes were taken out of it, maybe.
Well, we'll fudge on taxes.
But you got money for work performed.
How old are you?
16.
Oh, 13, huh?
I was a tutor
16
16, yeah, I think I was 16 as well
Yeah, okay, so all around the same
I want you to imagine starting your life
In the working world at age four
I would have been terrible
Right, yeah
And we're not talking about Shirley Temple here
No, we are not talking about the cushy life
of a Hollywood actor
Once upon a time, I mean, not that long ago
It was totally commonplace
It was accepted.
It was even encouraged to have children as young as four entering the workforce.
To do what?
Well, to do lots of things.
And, you know, in Europe and America, before modern labor laws started appearing in, you know, in the 1800s generally,
there was virtually no regulation at all around child labor, virtually none.
And, I mean, I should say, you know, there are obviously many places in the world today
where there still is child labor.
The main difference between now and, you know, 200 years ago is that now child labor is pretty much universally condemned.
It still happens.
It's still there.
Most people don't consider it a good thing.
Back in the good old days or battle days, there was a lot of work to be done everywhere.
And you'd find all the hands you could do to do it.
Sadly, the primary advantage of child laborers has, well, there have been two.
One is they'll work cheap.
They work more cheap than adults.
And the second is their size.
So, you know, going back to like 15, 16, 17, 1800s, a lot of the roles for child laborers were because they were small and could get in places that full-size adults could not.
It was very common to have children working in mines and coal mines or, you know, gemstones, right?
Because they can get into tight little spots as bad as it is for your health to be a coal miner as a grown-up.
Yeah.
When your lungs are still developing.
Substantially worse to be down there as a child.
As you say, your body is still developing.
You know, all of your systems are still developing.
You know, you could be burned out of a life as a minor as a kid by the time you were a teenager.
You know, you could be just so many ailments stacked up that you're done.
Kids would have rickets.
Because you're underground all day.
You're not exposed to light.
What's rickets?
It's vitamin D deficiency because you're not getting supposed to sunlight.
It makes your bones weak and brittle and they can become malformed.
And your body's still growing.
and you're underground harvesting coal.
My first vision of a chimney sweep is from Mary Poppins.
Yeah, probably like a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I assure you that real-life chimney sweeps were nowhere near as jolly as their film counterparts.
They go around singing about it afterwards.
In real life, particularly in England where there was a lot more coal and chimney sweeping,
your average chimney sweeping crew would have several young boys as part of the crew,
and they were called climbing boys.
And their job was to climb inside the chimneys
and scrub them out in places that a grown-up couldn't reach.
There's some reports of boys as young as three and a half.
I mean, just imagine trying to explain to a three-and-a-half-year-old
this is the work that you need to do.
It said that sometimes to keep the climbing boys from slacking off,
you know, while they're inside there,
it was not uncommon for crew bosses to light small fires near the grades
to send heat and smoke up the flu.
Like, hey, keep working.
Don't slack off here.
It's going to get really uncomfortable.
You might be retired as a climbing boy by the time you were 12,
and you might be stooped over and bruised and hunched to show for it.
You might think that, okay, well, you know,
some of the advances of the industrial revolution would bring about better conditions, right?
Yes and no.
Yes, you are outside of the mines.
You're not underground.
You're not inside a chimney.
You might be in a factory.
But inside a factory was dangerous, dangerous work.
Yeah.
And the job.
for a lot of children in factories early on was runners was one term for them. Say you're
working in a textile factory and there's a snag or a breakage or something on the giant
machines. You would send little kids in there to root out inside the machinery because they can
fit inside the gears and around the little tight spots to fix whatever problem there was. It was
tough, tough, dangerous work. Not all these children were volunteers. A lot of them were
very poor. A lot of them were orphans. A lot of them were pressed into service. A lot of them were stolen children for the purpose of working in factories. Until 1814 in England, there was no law outright forbidding the theft of children. What? Yes. There is a story of a woman named Elizabeth Salmon who abducted a child in 1802. She was only charged, once she was discovered, she was only charged with theft of the girl's clothes because that was the only part of her act.
that was technically illegal.
Wow.
Crazy to imagine some of these things that seem like common sense.
Well, nothing is a law until you make it a lot.
It's true.
It's true.
I guess we have to talk about this.
Yeah, this is a thing now.
There was a little bit of relief with the Factory Act of 1844, which reduced the number of hours that a child could work.
Didn't ban.
It could reduce.
Which basically said that you could no longer have things like kids working 12 to 14 hour shifts in some factories.
workplaces six days a week.
Kids got mandatory cigarette breaks.
Whiskey breaks.
They would probably be glad to have the cigarette breaks.
So, yeah, you would bring it down to a much more respectable, you know, eight or ten
hour day, maybe only four to five days a week as a child.
Thankfully, as both Europe and America moved, you know, toward the end of the 1800s
and into the early 1900s, child labor was, you know, bit by bit, reduced and reduced,
and eventually pretty much outlawed in all cases, you know, and there are weird little
exceptions like actors today.
But even today, there are really
strict regulations on child labor
school. That's why on
TV shows like full house, they
get twins to play one
girl. That's absolutely right. Because they'll have rules
that any given child under a certain age
can only be on set for
20 minutes, let's say, at a time.
We're working only a certain number of hours a day.
So yeah, this is why they'll get
multiples, twins or triplets, even if you're lucky, to
play young kids in TV
and movies and things like that.
So as much as I grumbled about having to go get a job when I was in high school,
I'm glad I did not have to start when I was five.
Yeah.
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This week we're talking about babies and children and talking about offsprings.
Whether you are currently a child or used to be a child or have children,
you've probably encountered Dr. Seuss books.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is not the story of Dr. Seuss.
This is a quiz.
It is a quiz baby that I have birthed and will all bestow upon you.
That sounds bad for some reason.
You all know the Dr. Seuss books.
I want to know how well you know some of these doctors.
All right.
Well, we'll see.
All right.
A lot of these have entered into popular culture.
So each of you have a notepad and a pen.
And that is how we will play this.
So you guys will write down your answers.
If you're following along at home, I'll let you know what everyone is written down.
And we'll see who gets it right.
If anyone.
If this were a role doll, it would be a different matter.
Sure.
I did not grow up.
That is another quiz for another episode of time of time.
So, for this first question, I'm going to give you a quote, and there will be a blank, and you will write down the word that goes in the blank.
All right.
Here's the quote.
This one has a little star.
This one has a little car.
Say, what a lot of blank there are.
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Karen is locked in, Dana is locked in, Colin does not have anything.
Say, what a lot of blank there are.
One has a little star, one has a little car.
Colin, your time is up.
So, Karen says fish.
Dana says...
Ones.
Ones.
Okay.
Books.
Books.
Karen is correct.
This is from one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
I thought it was ones because that would also work with the foot.
It would.
It would.
It would.
With Dr. Seuss, yeah, of course.
And then something went bump.
How that bump made us jump is aligned from a book.
What was the thing?
What was the bump?
What made the bump that made them jump?
And then something went bump
How that bump made us jump
What went bump
Karen's locked in
Dana's locked in
Colin is locked in
Colin says who
Dana says the cat in the hat
And Karen says the cat in the hat
It is the cat in the hat
All right here we go
On the 15th of May
In the jungle of Newell
In the heat of the day
In the cool of the pool
he was splashing, enjoying the jungle's great joys
when Blank the Blank
Heard a small noise
We have two blanks.
Blank the blank.
Colin is locked in.
Karen is locked in.
Dana is locked in.
Colin says Horton and elephant.
Karen says Horton and elephant.
Dana says Horton the elephant.
It is Horton the elephant.
It is Horton the elephant.
The small noise he was hearing is the
I like the cool of the pool
The cool of the pool
It was a nice opening
Here is a little
A few rhyming lines
Just tell me what book these are from
Chicks with bricks come
Chicks with blocks come
Chicks with bricks and blocks and clocks come
Whoa
Hey all right
Head out of the gutter
Back in the pool full of kids
All right here
Chicks with bricks come
Chicks with blocks come
Chicks with bricks and blocks and clocks come
It is a bit of a tongue twister
It is a book of very specifically tongue twisters
Dancing on a razor with that one
Karen is locked in
Dana is locked in
Colin is locked in
Dana says I don't know
Colin says hop on pop
And Karen says green eggs and ham
The answer is fox in socks
Wow, you're celebrating.
I remember reading this one, but I just couldn't remember how I was like, box in socks.
And knocks on box and all sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In how the Grinch stole Christmas, the Grinch steals from the residence of Whoville three types of food that are called out by name.
Name two of them.
If that's too hard, name one of them.
Are they normal food, or is it made-up food?
He steals three types of food.
All of them, all of them are evocative of a certain type of food.
There is one specific line where he's talking about all the things that the Grinch is stealing.
I'm trying to think of what rhymes with other things.
Three things are named.
Yes, that's a way to do it.
Yep.
Dana has a couple of foods written down.
Karen has some foods written down.
Colin weighs in with jellies and jams.
Karen weighs in with cake, cookies.
and candy
and Dana says
turkey and hand
you have all failed
horribly
he steals first
he steals from them
who pudding
he steals the very well
known roast beast
and the Grinch
even takes their last can
of who hash
got it
here is another
opening rhyming couplet
from a book
on the far away
island of Salamassand
blank the blank
was king of the pond
Oh
Oh, man
On the far away island
of Salamassand
Blank the Blank was king
of the pond
Karen is locked in
I can picture that page
Oh man
I can picture it
I just don't remember
Colin is having some trouble
Just put something
Mass
Dana is locked in
Colin you are out of time
Karen says don't know
Dana says
Can you read that for me
Either Myrtle or Erdle the Turtle
Oh, you're about the turtle!
It is, Yurtle.
Yurtle.
Yes.
Yes.
So, sadly, no points all, half point.
50%.
Yep, yep, point five.
That's 0.5 more than we got.
All that I've noticed, except my own feet, was a horse and a wagon on blank blank.
All that I've noticed except my own feet was a horse and a wagon on blank blank.
It's not right, but it rhymes.
Everyone locked in.
Dana says, Sesame Street.
Colin says, can you read that for me?
Mulberry Street.
And Karen says, Crazy Street.
And you did need to get both for one point.
The winner is Colin, the book is, to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street.
Okay.
First book for children.
Oh, was it?
Yeah.
All right.
And the last question.
Let's talk about green eggs and ham.
And the dish, green eggs and ham, that one character keeps trying to get the other character to eat during the entire book.
What actual parts of the food are green?
Oh.
All right.
Karen is locked in.
Everybody is locked in.
Karen says yoke.
Colin says yokes and pork chop.
And Dana says egg yolks.
The person who is most correct is Colin
Because the egg yolks are green
And also the ham is green
That's what I was thinking
It's not it's yeah
As it turns out it's green eggs and ham
And green eggs and ham
Not just green eggs
And regular ham
Green eggs and green ham
Yeah that was tricky
That was trickier than I thought going in
And then you hear the answer
It's like oh yeah that
I mean there's probably a lot of parents
With small children out there
That ran the board on that
I'm sure
Yeah
It's easy to write poetry when, like, you just get to the part where you have to put the rhyming word in and just make up a word.
Right, yeah.
He's, he dined out a lot on that.
Steve Cubine and Nan McNamara's podcast from Beneath the Hollywood Sign.
Mary Astor has been keeping a diary.
Mary writes everything down.
And so this torrid affair with George S. Kaufman is chronicled on a daily basis.
In great detail.
And Ife pulls out a box and gives McAllister a ring saying, here's something to remember me.
buying. This article caused
Daryl Zanick to hit the
roof. Actress Ruth Roman
followed that up with playing a
foil to Betty Davis in Beyond the
Forest. I mean, if you can stand toe to toe
with her, boy. And she
does because she plays the daughter
of the man that Betty Davis kills
out in the hunting trip. And it's
directed by King Vidor, so
he's no slouch. How do you go wrong with that?
Speaking of the Oscars, talking about
what I call Beginners' Luck,
it's all about the actors and actresses
who won an Oscar on their very first film.
Get your fix of old Hollywood from Stephen Nann on the podcast from Beneath the Hollywood Sign.
So, Chris, as a father-to-be, you will no doubt soon be learning, of course, the joys of various kids' books as we just went over.
Indeed.
You will also, I am sure, be learning the joy slash pain of kids' music, lullabies, you know, just the same old.
They're great the first time, the first ten times, but as a parent, if you have to hear some of these things hundreds of times, they can get a little old.
So what I think is a brilliant stroke of music marketing and music selling, there are companies that now create lullaby and baby versions of normal adult rock songs.
Yes, Rockaby baby. This is not an official plug or anything, but I have taken several rockabai baby.
covers of very well-known rock songs. As Karen said, they're all instrumental. So for me,
part of the fun with these kind of songs is listening to, at what point do I like, oh, I recognize
this song. I know it. I imagine it'll be like sort of familiar, but you won't be able to place it
without a little bit more help. And they're really well done. Once you hear them, like, for me,
I can't help but smile when I hear these. The arrangements are fantastic. The arrangements are
great. I'll start us off here with one that I think is fairly straightforward. So keep in mind,
These are all very famous, very well-known rock songs.
All right, here we go.
So here's the first sample.
Just kind of give you guys a flavor.
Tell me what song this is.
Yeah
Oh, well
Did you get it?
Karen.
Fell in love with a girl
By the White Stripes
That is
Oh, I love the girl
That's right
I'm okay
I'm so glad that I have no idea
What, no
I've never heard that song
Before my life
So I'm listening to this going
Oh man I hope that like
This isn't like a familiar song
That I know
Right right
I want to play it for you
I'm like
Do you know you don't know
The video was made out of Lagos?
Nope
Yeah kind of the first
I think the first white stripes
hit song right
Yeah
If you hasn't heard any of them
I'm just saying I'm relieved.
Okay.
Here we go.
Next one.
Tell me what song this is.
It's queen
We Will Rock You
Yes
We Will Rock you
My Queen
It really does
They really are
They're slow
It's so slow down
They do
They'll change the tempo
On some of them
And it's just
And not only that
But it's just like
I know we will rock you
But it's just hard to get it
Yeah
Here we go
A punk classic
Okay
Okay
This is I want to be sedated.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
The Ramones, I want to be sedated.
A very sedate version.
Quite, quite, yes.
Here we go.
Another hard rock and classic.
What song is this?
Oh, Karen.
Paradise City with the grass is green.
Yes, Paradise City by...
Guns and Roses.
That's right.
One of my personal favorite rock songs here.
Karen
Where is the fight club song?
Yes, as seen in Fight Club.
Yes, where is my mind by the Pixie?
That's a good song.
I mean, if you guys like this lullaby stuff, there are so many kind of instrumental covers of rock songs.
I love the wedding ones with the violin.
Yeah, the vitamin stream quartet does a whole selection.
They have like all Fleawood Mac, like, you know, all wedding, all babiesies.
You're right, it is very much in the same vein.
And there's also brass band interpretations too are really big.
And also like banjo bluegrass.
Like I have a whole album of a brass band Dach Punk, which is really interesting.
That does sound interesting.
Yeah, like, I love listening to, like, weird instrumental covers of songs you already know.
And whereas my mind is always, it's always in one of these...
It shows the strength of a lot of these songs that they can be, I think, deconstructed and reinterpreted and they're still good songs.
All right. Last one. Last one. For your little punk music fan baby, might enjoy hearing this.
I think everyone, I think everyone, I think on that one, I think on that one, should I stay or should I go.
Yes, by the car.
Wow.
Crazy.
Good job.
You know what?
I learned something today.
All right.
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