Good Job, Brain! - 111: What's in a Name?

Episode Date: May 21, 2014

You asked for it, and here it is - our episode about the sizzling world of names and nomenclature. RAWR! Learn about the Pinocchio Rex and other goofy (but real!) dinosaur names and origins. Can you identify movies from their initial or secret working titles? We also have funky trivia about NBA team names, movie sequels, and brand name translations. Are you sitting on a POÄNG while watching TV on a BESTÅ? Discover the weird world of the IKEA naming system. JA! ALSO: Gremlins II   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Hello, frenetic, fresh and frequently frenzied friends. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 111. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your zany zoo of zippy zealous xenomorphs. I'm Colin. I'm Naina. And I'm Chris.

What's a xenomorph? It's from aliens, right? It's the alien creature. What's it break down to, zeno and morph? Strange shape, alien shape. Oh. Like xenophobia? Well, without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, pop quiz, hot shot.

I have here a couple of trivia pursuit cards, and you guys have your barnyard buzzers ready. Let's answer some questions. All right. First one. Blue Edge for geography? All right. Sure. Sure.

Who performed at the first concerts held at each of the two New York Mets stadiums, one 44 years after the other. So the first Mets step 44 years apart. So there's two different stadiums? Yeah. Tony Bennett? Incorrect. I think you guys are on the same kind of right realm.

East Coast. Yeah, somebody East Coast. Who had to be alive on the second one. And connected to the, you know, Shea Stadium and the Mets. Yeah, right. Frank Sinatra? No, okay. So in 1965, he played the Shea Stadium with a band.

Paul McCartney. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I was talking of a band. I was talking about the Beatles. So it wasn't, yeah, okay. All right.

Sort of a trick. It's not a trick. It's the answer. Pink Wides for Pop Culture. What actor plays the James Bond Who, when asked if he'd like his martini Shaken or Sturridge, says,

Do I look like I give a damn? Colin. That was Daniel Craig. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember that. It was part of their like reimagining a Bond. He just doesn't care.

Casino Royale. Yes. Yeah. He debuted as Bond in the 2006 film Casino Royale, which is very good. All right. Yellow Wedge. What did the I and the E stand for in UNICEF

Oh Unicef is the United Nations International Children's Education Fund? Close. You got international. It's international and

emergency. Oh. So a little tidbit here on the card. The words were dropped in 1953 to reflect a shift to worldwide long-term

concerns, but the acronym did not change. So they just call I guess Unicef and It doesn't stand for anything? No, it doesn't, I guess. Okay.

All right. Purple Wedge. What comic book character was created by a male psychologist as an alternative to other superheroes? It's a weird question. What comic book character was created by a male psychologist as an alternative to other superheroes? Wait, a male psychologist had invented this, or the superhero was a male psychologist? No, invented by a male psychologist. I'm going to guess Wonder Woman.

Correct. Oh, okay. All right. It seemed conspicuous there. They're emphasizing male psychologist. Right. Yeah. Green Wedge for science.

What are you afraid of if you suffer from tarogophobia? And I will spell it out. P-T-E-R-Y-G-O-P-H-O-B-I-A. What is? Teradactals. No. Is that stone rock? Is that the root?

Terrogophobophobobobobes. Uh, don't know. Teradactyl's close. Dinosaurus. Flying? Flying. Fun, no. Fear of flying is terra-gophobia.

I thought it was, oh, no, acrophobia is. Fear of heights. Fear of getting into an airplane and flying somewhere. Okay. All right. Last question. Orange Wedge. What automaker release models designated 911, 911, 924, 928 in 944.

That is, of course, Portia. Of course. Of course. yes excuse me of course well good job brains all right we got a full show today a lot of people suggested this as a topic so we're finally going to do it and it's we

I think we all have a lot of stuff prepared for today's episode so we're going to talk about names and naming things and what do names mean and a lot of that kind of stuff so today what's in a name anything at all but with nothing to consider they forget my name

aim they call me help they call me Stacy they call me they call me Jane

that's not my name that's not my name that's not my name that's not my name they call me quite I will kick it off I have put together a quiz for you guys

about rules and names you know naming things often has to be done within guidelines and criteria so So all of these questions are about rules and around types of names, maybe things that are exceptions to the rule. It's so mysterious.

Yeah. Well, we'll start off one. Okay. Give us a little bit of a flavor. Okay. We'll start off with one that we've sort of talked about on a previous show. There are many American cities with Spanish names named after saints. You know, they typically start with San like San Diego or Santa like Santa Rosa.

So tell me, what's the rule? When do you use San or Santa? What is the logic? Karen. Santa is for a girl. You are correct. Yeah. Except for Santa Claus.

Santa Barbara. Santa Claus. Santa Maria? Not a real Spanish saint. Yeah. Right, right. Yes, that's right. Yeah, you use Santa for a female name.

Santa Rosa, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Santa Clara, Santa Clara. And you use San for male names. San Diego, San Antonio, San Francisco, and on and on and on. strictly speaking short for Santo Sometimes you'll see some cities around the world Like Santo Domingo But we don't really do that in Well it's sort of the rule for that

Is you'll use the toe to avoid confusion So for like Santo Domingo Like San Domingo if you say it quickly The thinking is that it might be confused For St. Mingo Santo Mingo And Cruz is female Cruz is cross

You know some of them are a little more allegorical Like Santa Cruz Yeah, Santa Fe as well. What's Faye? Faith. Oh, okay, okay. So we get this question, we've had this question before in trivia of what is the most common first name for you as president?

You guys probably a minute of reflection here. You might remember that it is James. James. Yes. There have been six James presidents, Madison Monroe, Buchanan, Garfield, Polk, and the one everyone always forgets, Carter, Jimmy Carter. Oh, okay. But I'm not asking about first.

names here. What do Woodrow Wilson, Calvin Coolidge, Grover, Cleveland, and Ulysses S. Grant all have in common? Say it again. What do Woodrow Wilson, Calvin Coolidge, Grover Cleveland, and Ulysses Grant all have in common? Karen. Oh, I was going to say double letters, but it's not, um, middle name S? They don't have middle names. Oh, you guys are all like, Dana. Oh, wait, that was close. I was going to say they're common high school names. All of these, all these presidents went by their middle name. Oh, they went by the middle name. Stephen Grover, Cleveland, Thomas Woodrow Wilson, John Calvin Coolidge, and Hiram Ulysses Grant. Okay. So what's the, what's the S in Ulysses

Grant, which famously doesn't stand for anything? This is a great little anecdote. It does not in fact stand for anything. When he was enrolled in West Point, there was a friend of the family basically a powerful man in congressman who enrolled him in West Point and erroneously listed his name as Ulysses S. Grant. So he thought that his middle name was his first name. He put the S for his mother's maiden name. And when he got to West Point, he's like, you know what, I'm just going to go by Ulysses and his grant. Yeah.

That's a pretty cool. But he always said, yeah, the S doesn't stand for anything. Last week, California Chrome won the Kentucky Derby horse race, one of the most high-profile horse races in the world. California Chrome. California Chrome. Yes, was the name of... Like the browser?

Yeah, like the browser or the metal. Oh, okay. I'm not a big horse racing fan, but for me, some of the fun of horse racing is always seeing some of the crazy names that they come up with from horses. So the horse names are usually a little cheeky or kind of playful. Here are just some of the other names that ran last week in addition to California of Chrome. There was Wicked Strong, Dance with Fate. Is it from Boston?

I probably was from Boston. Candy Boy, Harry's Holiday, Vickers in trouble. It's not like bars. A lot of them do sound like bars. There are, you may not be surprised to find out, very specific rules about what you can name a horse. You have to register your horse with, in North America. A racehorse. A race horse.

Right. In addition to not being offensive or obscene or things like that, tell me, what is the number one rule about a horse name? Chris. It can't have been used before? That is one of the rules generally, if it's like a Kentucky Derby winner, you can't name another horse, California. They do sort of retire names of famous horses. It has to do with the length of the name. Horse names registered for thoroughbred racing cannot be longer than 18 letters.

And this is sometimes why you'll see names with no spaces in there, because this includes spaces and punctuation. It's 18 characters. So sometimes people will run their names together with no spaces in between. To cram it into the 18-letter limit. To cram it all in there, right. The character count. Right. Like footsteps in the sand.

was a famous racehorse, but no spaces in between. Right. Oh. Password. Hoochie Koochee Mama also. Whoa. Not like that, Karen. It's not, no.

It's fine. It's like grandparents say that. Okay. This is another one that we frequently get in pub quiz. So this is sort of a test of your memory here. Most professional sports teams in America are plurals. Their team names end in the letter S. The Giants, the Yankees, the Mets, and so on and so forth.

However, there are exceptions. in several sports. So you guys can work together. You guys can collaborate on these. Tell me, what are the two Major League Baseball teams that do not end in the letter S? The White Sox and the Red Sox.

Yeah, I'm trying to get you guys warmed up here. There are four NBA professional basketball teams whose team names do not end in the letter S. Orlando Magic, the Utah Jazz. Wow. Well, I mean, that's the only two I can think of. We've talked about this before.

Is there an avalanche? I'll give you credit on the next. question I'm going to ask here. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, that's not, that's hockey, that's NHL. Chris has got it, yeah, there are four. Orlando Magic, Utah Jazz. Give us a city.

There's another one in Florida, who, uh, probably the best player in the world. Oh, the Miami Heat. Okay. Plays for them. Uh, and there's one in Oklahoma. Thunder. Yes, the Oklahoma City Thunder. All right.

That's right. Magic, Heat, Thunder, Jazz. Oh, okay. Jazz is a little bit. It sounds like the album. name for something. Like red hot chili peppers. That'll be the name of our first album.

And then Karen, yes, you're anticipating. There are two hockey NHL teams that don't end the letter S. And you had one of them was the avalanche. What city? Colorado avalanche. And there's one more team. There's a state in their name, not a city. I don't know.

We just had this one a couple weeks ago, pub quiz. It is the Minnesota. Fight. No, that's wrong. The Minnesota Wild. Oh, right. We did have this. I was like, no, we didn't, Colin.

But yes, now I remember. So wild, wild avalanche. Wild avalanche. Okay. Wild avalanche. And a working definition of thunder is magic jazz heat. I like it. Oh, that's good.

We'll see if we can actually remember that. Thunder equals magic jazz heat. Jazz heat. As they must have thought. And the NFL is very boring and traditional. All of their teams end in the letter as. Really? Yeah.

No exception. exceptions. Wow. All right, we'll close it out here with a few true or false questions, all about naming and naming rules, things you may or may not know. True or false, to be a member of the Screen Actors Guild, you must register with a unique working name. Karen.

True. I think it's true. Yeah, I thought true. It is, in fact, true. That's not a lot of people who make fake middle names. The famous middle names are very common. Fox. Michael J. Fox is one of the best examples, right?

His real middle name is actually Andrew, but there was already a Michael Fox when he joined SAG, and so he had to come up with the fake initial. More recently, Emma Stone. Her name is actually Emily, but there was actually an Emily Stone as a SAG member. So no one who knows or calls her Emma. It's just her professional stage name.

That's right. You must change your name. True or false. In Norway, you may only legally name your baby off of a list of pre-approved first names. That sounds too crazy. Chris. I know that there are countries that do that, and I want to say true. I think you can petition for other names, but mostly, yeah, right?

I say true because it's a weird fact. This was true until about 10 years ago. And, Chris, you're absolutely right. There are many countries that have varying degrees of controls over what you can name your baby. Some countries that have to be gendered, meaning you have to be able to tell whether it's a boy or girl. But some countries are loosening and relaxing these. Yes, that's right, though. Norway dropped most of these regulations in 2002.

Oh, okay. And these days, they only ban, like, swear words, things that are just really overtly obscene illnesses. You know, you can't name your baby cancer, for instance. Or tonsillitis. Right. And a bunch of other sort of negative names. In researching this, I saw an article about names in Norway, and then I saw one about New Zealand. And there's, somehow this got through the New Zealand regulatory.

Somebody's name is number 16 bus shelter It's funny I read another story about a New Zealand couple One of the regulations in New Zealand Is they won't register a name That starts with a numeral, a number So there was a couple wanted to name their baby Four Real, the number four real

And they wouldn't let them do that So they settled on the much more sensible First Name of Superman Nicholas Cage named his Kowel. Yeah, that's true. All right. And last little tidbit here, guys. So I've studied the works of J.R.R. Tolkien and George R.R. Martin.

And I figured out that the rule to being a successful fantasy author is you must have two R's in your middle initials. Right. So for four imaginary possible points, you guys need to tell me all four of the R's in J. R.R. Tolkien and George R.R. Martin. We've done J.R.R.R. Tolkien before. It's Ronald Ruhl. Yes. Yes. Ronald Ruel. Yes. Rochambeau.

Robert. Richard. Oh, you're half right, Dana. Just guessing. George Raymond Richard. Okay. Are those real names? Yeah. Okay. Okay. It does make us sound a little more scholarly.

It does. You know, with more initials means more scholarly. Right. So Ronald R.R.R.R. John Ronald, Rule, Tolkien, George, Raymond, Richard, Martin. That's like four first names in his name. Yeah, that may be why he decided to use the initials. Oh, man. Whoa. All right.

That was a hard one. So a couple of good job brain listeners wrote in and notified us that some big news in the dinosaur world. Recently, a new type of Tyrannosaur with a very long nose has been nicknamed Pinocchio Rex. Nice. Pinocchio Rex. Not the official name. The official name is Guanzoosaurus, because it's found in Guanzon, which is a province in China. But they're lovingly nicknaming it Pinocchio Rex because it's kind of like a T-Rex and it has like a long face.

So it was a big deal for them to finally confirm this animal because they found skeletons of it before, but it was when the Pinocchio Rex was a smaller dinosaur. So they don't know if it was just part of. puberty, like dinosaur puberty or dinosaur growth that they would have a long nose and then it kind of toned down throughout the years. But they finally found an adult, it is, they finally found an adult male Pinocchio Rex. And now this confirmed, okay, this is a separate kind of species of dinosaurs. So it is a cousin of T-Rex, but it is smaller. It's a little bit wiring, has the long face, but Hey, guys.

You joke, but it's still like a really deadly animal. You'd be scared of it. So that inspired me to look for other dinosaur names that are kind of silly, but real. Real dinosaur names. And I want to share some with you guys. Scientists have fun.

Scientists do have fun. Yeah. So there is, of course, the gasosaurus. It was the scientific name, meaning gas lizard. Because a gasoline company found the fossil in China. So they just called it gasosaurus. Really imaginative, yeah. That sounds a little bitter, doesn't it?

You know, they were so close to 5 o'clock, and they were just getting done for the day. It was like Memorial Day weekend. There's a gassaurus. There's also the irritator challenger wry. What? The irritator dinosaur. It's officially called the irritator. Okay.

And the reason why is there was the skull of this animal. and a couple of the colleagues and the fossil hunters realized that there was some bad plastering job done on the skull, so it took them a long time to fix it, and they're really irritated, hence they named this animal, the irritator. These are like bitter office people jokes. Like they're not funny puns on the dinosaur. It's more like, you know what this is? This was an irritating thing to work on.

That's why I don't like it. I'll show you. Take that. Take that world. It's like there was a little post-it note on there that's like, obviously, you know, change this name before releasing this information to the public, and then it falls off. Smash cut to somebody pulling the giant, like, curtain off the dinosaur at the museum. It's the broken coffee machinator. It's like, I need a Razasaurus.

There's also the Bambi Raptor. People theorized or guessed or actually stated that it's named. after the Walt Disney movie, you know, the Bambi, the deer. It's not? It's not. Bambi, Bambi means small. Yeah. So Bambi Raptor is a very small, quick, little after thing.

So it's probably because of, like, the Italian word Bambi. There is also the Brontomeris, and in Greek, it means thunder thighs. Oh. And there's, like, pictures of it. I was like, oh, that's kind of cute, but kind of mean. I don't know. The thunder styming. Yeah, it is body shaming.

This is Wilson's eighth. grade class named this dinosaur. Thunder thunders. There's also the Stiggy Mollock, which is Mollock demon from the river Sticks. Oh, Stiggy Mollock. I like that name. That's a good stage name. Yeah.

For like a bass player. Yeah. So here I've kind of a talk through quiz. You guys don't have to buzz in. But a lot of the dinosaurs, they all kind of end their names in the same way. There's the Raptor and there's a Soros. What do they actually mean? And what does Soros mean?

Oh, lizard, right? Correct. What does Raptor mean? Flying, bird, something, meat, claw? It means thief. Thief. Or to seize or to take. As in the rapture.

Seratop. Oh, spikes. Oh, seraph is horn. Horns. And then op, so not top, but op is face. Head. Oh, Sarah's. So horn face.

Right. Seratop. Try. top three horn face tarot we talked about this earlier winged winged

wing so teradactal pines and fingers and there's a lot of dinosaurs that ends with dawn like iguana dawn mastodon mastodon what is dawn hmm

sir in Spanish foot foot foot is a pod pod right it is teeth So iguanodon is like a big iguana with teeth Like parodontal Yeah

And mastodon The big tusks right All right All right last one Dactyl Fingers fingers Yes or claws Tera-dactyl

Wing fingers Yeah Winged scary fingers Wow that's cool Yeah So there you go Some dinosaur lingo So I have a name quiz for you guys

It's kind of a grab bag Of etymologies And And most common names of things and where these names. All right. Yeah, name origin stories, aliases. Love it. All right.

Ready? What is the most common name for a pope or papal name? Colin? Pious. No. John Paul. No. John?

John. Yeah. Yeah. Which fast food company gets its name from its. its founders, the Raffelle brothers. Karen? A and W. No.

The Raffel brothers. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Raffles? No. Arbys? Arbys.

Arbys. The Rfell brothers. It's like the BG's. Yeah, it is. What's BG's? The brothers do. Oh. Yeah.

Awesome. Which online company was originally named Cadabab. Cadabra.com. Cadabra.com? Not cadabra. No, Cadabra. Like, Abra, Cadabra, but Cadabra. Colin?

Yahoo? No. And what are they, what was the description you gave of them? It's an online company. Internet company? Amazon? Yes. Oh.

Yes. They changed her name. There's a rumor that Bezos picked Amazon because in Yahoo's category organization, it was all alphabetical. So A would come at the time. That's why a lot of stuff gets picked. Yeah. Yeah. At first it was Amazon.

Just to make sure. Yeah, just to make sure. Okay. Sticking with Internet companies, which company that provides rapid genetic testing got its name from the number of chromosomes in a normal human cell? Colin. Is that 23 and me? Yes, 23 in me.

What do the letters in the name Geico stand for? Colin. I believe they stand for the government employee insurance corporation company. Government employees insurance company. Wow. I did not know that meant something. Yeah. It was an abbreviation.

So Barbie is Barbara Melisant Rogers. What's Ken's full name? Oh. Man, I was just reading this, and I do not know. Ken, it's like Ken Carter? Carson. Kenneth. Yeah.

Is it Ken Carson? Yeah. I literally, I just, yeah, I read it at some point very recently. What about Snuffaloopagus's first name? Snuffeluvigis has a first name It's like Walter or something Wait, from Sesame Street? It's fancier than that.

Xavier? Yes, from Sesame Street. Big Bird's best friend, Big Bird from Sesame Street's best friend's best friend's first name. Pretty fancy. Xavier. Phineas?

No. It's, aloicious. Alloicious. I've heard that before. What? Yep. Is that a real name? Yeah.

That's his first name? Wow. Aloisius snuffaloopagus? Yeah. Well, good luck spelling that, kids. Can't be a racehorse. What about Uncle Pennybags from Monopoly. What's his first name?

Rich. Uncle Pennybags. It's also a highfalutin kind of name. Woodworth. Mortimer. It's Milburn. Oh, Milburn. Yeah.

Finally, even though this company's original name was Connecticut Leather Company, it's now more known for video games. What's it known as? Calico. What is? Calico. Connecticut Leather? Colin gets the point.

Connecticut. They used to make leather goods, then they started making toys. then they started making doll, you know, like, kind of... They were on for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really random. Connecticut leather company. Kind of like Nintendo, like where they just sort of...

Playing cards and then toys and then stuff and then electronics. Well, I guess Nintendo made like... I guess Nintendo's least... When you, it's a lot easier to get into when you already like our manufacturing, like, you know, stuff. You know, to start putting low-grade electronics in that stuff, you know? Yeah. That was good. Yeah, that's good.

So, I have a quiz, and here is the idea behind this quiz. The answers to all of these are going to be very famous motion pictures, famous Hollywood movies, but that at some point in their life cycles, they had started out with a different name than they ended up with. And sometimes it was a little earlier in the process, sometimes it was very late in the process. And then sometimes it would come out with a certain name in one territory and then have that name changed for specific reasons for another territory. One of the ones that we always talk about, I think, is that the third Star Wars movie started out as Revenge of the Jedi, and they actually manufactured some Revenge of the Jedi merchandise, yeah, before they made the very last minute change to Return of the Jedi. So here is a quiz.

Just a little brain warm up here. This film was originally titled Wise Guy. Karen. Goodfellis. Based on the book. This 1990 romantic comedy was. was originally titled 3,000 after the amount of money the main character charged for her illicit services. Dana.

Pretty woman. Pretty woman. Oh. It was changed because it sounded too much like a science fiction film. It does. It does. This 1999 film's script was originally titled Teenage Sex Comedy that can be made for under $10 million that your reader will love but the executive will hate. Dana again.

American part? American Pie, yes. It had another name, which is like Great Falls. Great Falls High School, East Great Falls High, I think, yes. It was the name of the high school. Yeah, but the original title that they put on the script when they were kind of trying to get it picked up was that, yeah. It's very catchy. It weren't.

Mission accomplished. Coma Guy was the original title of this 1995 romantic comedy starring Sandra Bullitt. Oh, sorry. Karen. While you were sleeping. While you were sleeping. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

You remember that same year Mrs. Winterbourne came out, and that was with Ricky Lake. Yes. And it was like the same plot where a guy is in a coma and, yeah. I don't remember that. Yeah. Shirley McLean. Huh. Why do we know that?

That could be the working title for our show. Why do I know that? This James Bond film got its title thanks to a typographical error. Someone was trying to type the word lies, but accidentally typed the word dies instead. Dana. Tomorrow Never Die? Tomorrow Never Dies. Oh.

It was supposed to be titled Tomorrow Never Lies. Really? Which makes kind of more sense. Kind of makes more sense. And you know, both of them are such James Bond sounding names. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't know that. Yes. Yeah, apparently it was because the fictional newspaper was called Tomorrow. And the idea was, oh, well, if it's in the newspaper tomorrow, they don't. They don't lie, so it must be in the right in the paper. But tomorrow never dies, which doesn't make anything mean nothing at all. But doesn't it sound so much more mysterious?

It does. It's like, oh, that's not for me. I'm just going to not think about it too hard. Just don't pick at it too much. Oh, that was Jonathan Price and Michelle Yow. Yes, yeah, yeah. That was a Pierce Brosman one. And Terry Hatcher.

This 1996 horror film was originally titled scary movie sounds like Dana again scream scream scream yes yep there was a scary movie there was so this was almost a revenge of the Jedi type situation

it was titled scary movie really really far up until the film was released and apparently some of like the promotional items they gave away still said scary movie on them but they decided to call it scream instead at the last minute

and then there was a pair of of scream and other horror movies, which was titled the Wayans Brothers, was titled Scary Movie. That, the original title that they were going to go with, was, Last Summer, I screamed because Halloween fell on Friday 13th. Nice. But they got the title Scary Movie instead. Okay.

I'm going to step this up to another, a harder level of difficulty. Oh, okay. In the UK, this Drew Barrymore Jimmy Fallon comedy was titled The Perfect Catch. Colin. Uh, pitch perfect? No. Fever Pitch. Oh, sorry.

Fever pitch. Wrong pitch. This is a baseball-themed movie. It was actually based on a soccer-themed movie called Fever Pitch. So when they brought the remake to the UK, they called it something else. But I like that. Pitch works for both. Yeah.

And also hilariously, if you look at the DVD cover or the movie poster for The Perfect Catch, they have removed the Boston Red Sox logo from Jimmy, Phelan's hat. Oh, really? And in fact, because apparently, according to the source that I was reading, baseball movies are a tough sell outside the U.S. So they kind of erased baseball from all the marketing materials. So people would just go to this sort of generic Drew Barrymore movie.

A perfect catch. Yeah, yeah. But anything. Right. By a guy who's wearing a hat with nothing on it. And finally, in the United Kingdom, this movie was called Die Hard 4.0. Die Hard 4.0. Ah, that's the thing.

Which one was that? Which one was it? Because there's so many. Caring. Live free and die hard. That's it. Live free or die hard. We'll give you the article.

Diehard 4.0. Like, point O is the... Diehard 4.0. How very internet-y. Yeah. Well, they had to keep it. Version control. It's a beta release.

Finally, this iconic 1980s film was originally titled a boy's life. Oh. Colin. Is that E.T? That is E.T. T.T. The extraterrestrial was originally titled a boy's life. Doesn't have that zing.

No, not at all. No, totally doesn't work. Yep. All right, good job, everybody. Cool. All right. Let's take a quick break. A word from our sponsor.

No frills, delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at no-frails.ca. Did archaeologists discover Noah's Ark? Is the rapture coming as soon as the Euphrates river dries up? Does the Bible condemn abortion? Don't you wish you had a trustworthy academic resource to help make sense of all of this?

Well, I'm Dan Beecher, and he's award-winning Bible scholar and TikTok sensation, Dr. Dan McClellan. And we want to invite you to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where our mission is to increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and also to combat the spread of misinformation about the same. But, you know, in a fun way. Every week we tackle fascinating topics. We go back to source materials in their original languages. And we interview top scholars in the field. So whether you're a devout believer, or you're just interested in a clear-eyed, deeply informed look at one of the most influential books of all time. We think you're going to love the Data Over Dogma podcast. Wherever you subscribe to,

awesome shows. And we're back. You're listening to Good Job Brain, and this week we're talking about names and naming things. So I've done this before in a previous show, and I've always been interested in when you have Western or English brand names going to international markets, their name will sometimes change due to translation. Growing up in Taiwan, I'm always so amazed at the wonderful job of localizing and translating English brand names, or American brand names in English, into not only works phonetically

in the Chinese language, but also literally it means good things. So, for example, I mean, a little bit hard to explain it. For example, we talked about Coca-Cola before. The rumor is Coca-Cola means someone says like, oh, that means bite the wax padpole. Not true. Chinese is a tonal language. Yeah, you could. If you totally tortured it, right.

You could also make it mean a million other things. A million other things. The Chinese translation for Coca-Cola, Koko-Kle, means every mouth can be happy. And so you're like, oh, wow, it sounds like Coca-Cola. And it means something great. It's clever. I think another example I had in the last time I did this was Doritos, was doli, doze, which means more power, more flavor.

I'm jealous, like that we can't get these awesome levels of double meaning. I mean, so some of these are more Taiwan skewed, but there are, in Mandarin. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to tell you the category of the brand, and then I'm going to give you the literal translation, and then I'm going to give you the Chinese name. I'm going to speak Chinese, and you guys tell me what you think this company is. Okay. All right.

So the first one is a drink, and it means hundred things to be happy about. And the Chinese name is Bai Shi Koele. Chris. Pepsi Cola. Yes, Pepsi Cola. All right. The next one is a retailer, like a store, and it means fit for home or appropriate for home or suits home. The Chinese name is Yija Chris.

Ikea. Correct. This one is a worldwide brand. It means happiness comes flying, and it's Shi Lai. Happiness comes flying. Kind of deals with travel or leisure. Virgin. No.

Shi Leiden. What does this sound like? Sounded out. Seleid. Sliding. Sliding. Shalding. Oh.

Sheraton? Correct. Wow. Sheraton. Nice. So you get people fly a lot, travel, hotel. Ha. All right.

This one is a recent one, actually. This actually made the number. news because of the company's success and also going into the Chinese market and this is an entertainment brand and the literal translation is comic power and the Chinese name is man way oh Dana Marvel correct men like manga yeah is like our man actually is comics so very very good job on that one it's very cool okay so this is a car brand and it literally means It means ensure time victory or speed victory. Okay.

The Chinese name is Bao Shi'i. Chris. BMW? Porsche? Porsche. Oh, yeah. This one is an apparel brand. It literally means sharp step.

And the Chinese name is Raybu. Reebok. Reebok. Rebock. Sharp step. That's good. Very lucky. this is a food retail chain and it means

literally means it can mean a lot of things it can mean reach beauty happiness but really I think what really fits is reach American happiness literally means

reach American happiness food retail Chinese name is Dahmele Domela Dammele It's not like me Domney

One of the fast food chains Oh Dominoes Yes Domino. Very American. And I remember growing up, the tagline is like, Damela, Dalamei, which means have you called Domino?

So there you go. I'm going to play for you guys an audio clip here from a popular television show. So you guys tell me what show is this from? But more importantly, I want you to tell me what is being parodied? What store is being parodied in this clip? Got it. Here we go. Oh, look at all these clever pencil holders.

Ooh, I want to get the crank. Hmm, you don't want something that overshadows the pencils the pencils. How about this? Pupley. Mom, no. Everyone in school picks on the Pupley kids. Even I do. Just hate them so much.

Everybody. Everybody. Simpsons and IQ. Yes, yes. I forgot where you were supposed to be doing. Yes, that is a chorus, March. And Lisa Simpson did the pooply and the cron. That is, of course, a parody of a trip to IKEA,

where a lot of the fun is walking around, reading the fun product names and the goofy names. In my time, I have owned many IKEA goods. I've had a Tajma clock. I've had a Blanda bowl. I believe we had a Ma'am bed. You probably did. Mom is a series, that's right, one of very popular.

I've had a LAC bookshel. Yes, L-A-K-K-K. I've had a plong chair. Yes, the bounty kind. Yeah, yep, yep. And one of their bestsellers is The Billy, there's a bookcase system. It's so funny that we all know. Instantly, instantly.

There's so many great names and lots of great name and naming trivia surrounding IKEA. So we've talked on the show before that IKEA actually is an initialism. So the founder is Ingvar Camprad, which is the, I-K. He grew up on a farm named Elm Tarrid near a village called Agunarid. And I'm sure I'm butchering the Swedish pronunciations. I apologize. I-K-E-A. Ikea. So but why the names? Why the goofy funny names? Why not the SRB chair? Well, it's a little more complicated than that. Not all the names are just straight, regular Swedish words. A lot of them are intentionally cheeky, intentionally punny.

Some of them kind of fall into what you might call like swinglish, where they're like not real Swedish, not real English words, intentional wordplay. But before that, so even when we're getting started, they have names for a lot of their products as opposed to numbers. And the reason that Ingvar Kamprad decided to go with the naming system. Oh, instead of just number model, yeah. Largely is because he is dyslexic.

Oh. And he found that in the early days of working in the first enter business. He would have a hard time remembering just based on numbers and, you know, numerals and letters what item he was referring to. And he wanted to be able to keep this all in his head. So he said, you know what? I'm going to go with names. And it's easier for me to remember. I can form an association. Even if I have trouble reading them, it's going to be a lot more information for me to process. But they still have their actual numeric, alpha numeric code, like model number. You know, I mean, certainly these days, you need to have something. Yeah,

but every product does have a name, or at least it's from a series. with the name. Over the years, I've sort of noticed, some of these sound like English words. Like, I had a shelving system, or little drawers called the compliment, but it's with a K. Yeah.

You know, okay. So some of that is... Swinglish. So some of that is swinglish, and some of that is just the fact that many Swedish words are very similar to English words. Like, compliment, for instance,

is just the Swedish word for compliment. It just, they spell it with a K instead of a C. Beyond that, though, there is a system to the IKEA names. They fall into families, broadly speaking. So,

originally, there were very broad rules like large furniture was named after Swedish cities and towns. So, like, mom? Right. Chairs and desks would have men's names, and on and on and on. And now you can imagine, as

they got bigger and bigger and bigger, there are some exceptions to these rules around the corners and the edges. But when they expanded internationally, they decided to keep all of the Swedish names, even the puny jokey ones. So a lot of the names have no meaning to us as English speakers, but for example, like my Tajma clock, Tajma is Swedish for two-time. My Blanda bowl comes from Swedish to mix. It was a mixing bowl. So they're kind of cheeky. Right. It gets way more complicated as they've gotten

bigger and bigger and bigger. But here are some of the general rules. Appholstered furniture, coffee tables, doorknobs use Swedish place names. Beds. A lot of the bed Room series use Norwegian place names. And in fact, Malm is a village in Norway. So the whole Malm series. A lot of the fabrics and the curtains will use women's names. A lot of the kitchen items use like grammatical terms. And as you get to know IKEA shopping, you'll start to see them falling into groups,

where if you know the name, you can even take a fairly educated guess as to what type of thing it's going to be. My favorite one, though, which I had always thought was just a total. nonsense word was we had a paper towel holder called the Finthorp, which could be like a Pokemon character. Fin Torp, as it turns out, is a small town in Sweden. So odds are, if you don't know what it is, it's a place name or a swinglish pun or a person's name. Hey, that's a good future quiz.

Swedish town or Pokemon. Fin Torp. Oh, I like that. It's like a little fish with some watercol. You can buy an IKEA or Pokemon? Yeah. Oh, I like that. I like that. On August 1st, may I speak freely?

I prefer English. The naked gun is the most fun you can have in theaters. Yeah, let's go. Without getting arrested. Is he serious? Is he serious? No. The naked gun.

Only in theaters. August 1st. And we have one last quiz segment. Dana, play us off. So naming something the first time can be kind of tricky when you need to come up the sequel of something, the second version of it. Maybe it's a little easier. Maybe you have some puns now you can rely on.

Maybe there's some previous knowledge that people have about what it was about. So you can get a little more creative. So I have a quiz for you guys about sequel names. And the sequel is your chance to really be creative and show. Because you've already got a built-in audience, presumably at that point. Yeah. They're in it now. So I'm going to read off the name of the original movie.

And you guys tell me the sequel name. Oh, okay. And most of these are movie sequel names you know. We'll start with the easy one. Break-in. Everybody. Break-in to Electric Boogaloo. Yeah.

Has anyone seen that movie? Oh, yeah, I have. You've seen it? I have. I have not. Here's another one. City Slickers. Everybody.

City Slickers, too. The legend of Curly's gold. Why did that capture everyone's imagination? I know. Everybody knows. Anyway. City Slickers was an awesome movie. A cow and Jack Palance.

Norman. How about I know what you did last summer? Oh. Chris. I still know what you did last summer. That's okay, Colin. You can chime in too. I thought we were all doing it.

Okay, we'll all just sing songy boys. How about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. The Secret of the Oos. How about Teen Wolf? Team Wolf 2. T-O-O. Yeah, like also Teen Wolf.

Right, yes. Oh, so Teen Wolf 2, 2. No, just Team Wolf 2. Team Wolf, comma, two. I also am a teen wolf because it was not, it was Jason Baitman, not Michael J. J. Pots. I am also a Teen Wolf. I am also a Teen Wolf. How about Wall Street?

Oh. A recent. Yeah, that's... Wall Street to Money Never Sleep. Yes. Wow, hey. I heard that one out. Good one.

How about this one? Legally blonde. Colin? Legally blonde, two. Oh, oh. Oh, wait, wait. It's some pun on, like, power of attorney or something like that. No, it's like something with some legal.

Well, it's about the dog. It's about the animal stuff. She goes to Washington, D.C. and this. It's called legally blonde two. Yes. Red white. Blue. Blonde.

You're so close. Yes. I'm shaking my head miscongeniality oh my god miscongeniality too with a bullet or something like that it's close that's the right tone

that was the tone they were going for armed and fabulous armed and fabulous yeah with a bullet armed and fabulous is better how about step up everybody step up to the

Sto streets. Dostreets? Dast streets? Dastries. We'll do more. Step up 3D. Step up revolution. How about Piranha 3D?

Oh. Karen D.D. It was something like a bra size. Yeah. Piranha 3D. It was a bra size pun. It was a bra size pun. Parana 3D.

Yeah. Yeah. How about speed? speed to like on the waves or no it's a pun about water and driving at the same time whoa yeah it's pretty pretty good probably the best part of the movie was this was this was jason patrick yeah yeah speed two cruise control oh yes yes yep hey it's 20th anniversary recently of speed one I'm so old

all right sister act everybody sister act two back in the habit awesome how about Alvin and the chipmunks Alvin and the chipmunks

the sweet wall yeah it hurts me just to say that it hurt me to type it I love how our brains have a special area in them a very large, you know, roomy area in them where they can immaculately catalog all of the names of stupid movie sequels

as compared to, and it sits right next to the part in my brain that's supposed to like remember my mom's birthday, which in comparison is like one one hundredth the size. But now, squeak wolf, just using up those brain cells. So last one, and this one, I remember fondly from my childhood. I don't know if you guys have the same feeling about it, But Grimlins, the sequel to Grimlins. Oh, yeah.

What was? Gremlins, too, the new batch. Yes. Hot, fresh piking batch of gremlins. It's delicious. That's the one in the tower, right? They're stuck in this, like, tower in New York City. Yeah, the climactic moment is, yeah, just like going through the whole tower with all the gremlins doing weird thing.

Who was, like, sexy. I have a, yeah, I just bought. It was just a series of very strange images. That's all I remember of it. There's Tony Randolph, Gremlin, who was really smart, who could talk and sings New York, New York. Remember that? There was a spider gremlin. Because it was like, somehow they broke into this lab in this building that had all these

potions that if they drink it, they'll become hybrids. They had to diversify them. So there was an electrical gremlin who became electrical energy. We should do an episode on Gremlin. There's a lot of energy. Good job, you guys. Yeah. And that's our show.

Thank you guys for joining me and thank you guys, listeners, for listening in. Hope you learned a lot of stuff about Kremlin's too. Akea names, about working title names, about localized Chinese names and brand names, and dinosaurs. I don't know if this is what people wanted when they asked for a names episode, but it sure is what they got. We learned that teradactyl means wing fingers. Winged finger. I know people online on our Facebook and Twitter group, they're really, I don't know why, but they really want to vote on baby names for you, Chris, for your upcoming baby.

Oh, okay. Yeah, well, we're not crowdsourcing that. I can just vote. Yeah, you can vote on whatever you want. We'll let you know how that goes. Horatio Magellan. Horatio Magellan Kohler. Yeah.

That would be so amazing. The cat. The cat. All right. You can find us, of course, on iTunes, on Stitcher, on SoundCloud, and on our website, good job, brain. com. Thanks to our sponsor, Audible. And we'll see you guys next week.

Bye. Good morning. big picture questions and the most interesting research in science. Seth and I are the host. Seth is a scientist. I am Molly and I'm a science journalist. And we talk to people smarter than us and we have fun along the way. The show is called Big Picture Science.

And as Seth said, you can hear it wherever you get your podcast.