Good Job, Brain! - 123: At the Movies

Episode Date: August 21, 2014

Get yourself some popcorn and fake butter topping and get ready for an episode all about the silver screen! Like easter eggs? Then you'll love learning about the most famous and popular sound effect t...hat appears in almost every major film. Dana's got a film crew quiz, and Chris brings back a movie quote challenge (this time, it's not a trick!). Ever heard of TRANSMORPHERS? Or ATLANTIC RIM? Karen dives into the weird world of "mockbusters." And in the early days of Hollywood, how did they move from silent movies to talkies? And take Colin's "I Know That Guy!" actor challenge.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an airwave media podcast. Hello, lavishly luscious listeners. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 123. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your gaggle of gang. Googling gigglers. I'm Colin. I'm Dana.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And I'm Chris. All right. Before we start the show, I want to share a listener email with you guys. This is from Jessica. And she wrote in and said, good job, brain. My name is Jessica. And my trivia team, Meow, Meow, Meow. Just got placed in the Texas State Final.
Starting point is 00:00:52 What? There's state finals. State finals. We only have City Finals. We have Bay Area. Bay Area, we're Northern California. True, true. But not state.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Not state. Yeah. Wow. Go Jessica. Yeah. And she says, I just want to let y'all, Texas. Because they say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Apparently, they write it an email. That your podcast helped me answer question tonight. The question was, what candy company's name is a portmanteau of its founder and the place at its headquartered? Oh, Aribo. She says, I knew right away Harribo was the answer from listening to one of your previous episodes. Y'all are amazing. So, congrats, Jessica and team Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I don't know when your state finals are, but wish you guys, good luck. Yeah, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meo, meow, meo, meow. Texas is a big state, too. It is. It is. Quite an honor, yeah. We couldn't even get that far. Once we did.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Once we touch California is pretty big, too. we won the grand championships once that was the best day of my life two major competitive universities in our area that's true yeah it's like the Stanley Cup like our name our team name is etched on the trophy you know what if forever they cannot take that away from it until they throw it away yeah until such time
Starting point is 00:02:19 until they need more space yeah but once we did taste greatness yeah anyways all right it's time for our first general trivia segment pop quiz Ha-cha! All right, I have a random trivial pursuit card here, and you guys have your Morning Zoo Radio buzzers. Let's answer some questions.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Here we go. What country shows symbols from E. Ching on its flag? Colin. I think that's South Korea? Correct, South Korea. It's the four, it's called trigrams. The little kind of three lines on the four corners. The four trigrams represent heaven, earth, fire, and water.
Starting point is 00:03:02 All right, Pink Wedge for pop culture. What? Soap Opera aired daytime drama's first lesbian wedding. Oh. I don't know. Daytime drama. Yeah, yeah. All my children.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Correct. I don't think I could. Oh, Bold and Beautiful. There was one that did all sorts of crazy storylines. Pleasures, was it? What? There was one. Bold and beautiful, all my children, Days of Our Lives.
Starting point is 00:03:30 General Hospital. General hospitals. I think it had alien story alarms. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. I know the one you're talking about. It got kind of bananas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 But yes, bananas. All right. Yellow Wedge. What New York Times columnist was dubbed the Cobra by serial nicknamer George W. Bush? The Cobra. New York Times. Columnist.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'll guess. William Sapphire. Incorrect. Paul Krugman? Incorrect. I don't know any of these people. Dana. Maureen Daud?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Morin Daud. Cobra. Cobra. All right. All right. Purple Wedge, what gay teen heartthrob entitled his 2007 memoir
Starting point is 00:04:15 Out of Sink? Oh, Dana. Lance Bass. Yes. The former and sinker came out in 2006. Green Wedge for Science, kind of science, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Who beat out CNN to become the first Twitter user with one million followers? This is a very popular pub quiz question. I believe, okay, first with one million followers? First. Is it Ashton Cutcher? Yes. I remember that. I know it because I know it.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. Yep. All right. Here we go. Last question. Orange Wedge. What fitness franchise claims its unofficial motto is, quote, no makeup, no men, and no mirrors. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Curse. There's one right around the block here. Oh, yeah. I don't get it. What is it? It's to not make women feel self-conscious while they're exercising. So there are no mirrors. There's nobody looking at you.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You're just doing exercise. Oh, I see. All right, good job, Brains. So this week's topic is inspired by a lot of people wrote in wanting, yearning for an episode about movies. We talk a lot about movies. I feel like we do. A lot of our previous maybe quizzes and titles, actors, a lot of like celebrity kind of infused quizzes in our other episodes. But we never made an actual full episode about the silver screen or the history.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And things like movies and definitely music is such a integral part of our entertainment culture. And such full ground for trivia. It is. It's just virtually, virtually limitless amount of sports generate their own trivia. Especially with resources like the internet movie. database, which, like, instantly lets you see, like, you know, what movies an actor was in, what movies an actor and another actor shared, how many steps you have to get to one person to Kevin Bacon, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So finally, guys, today we're going to dedicate a whole episode to movies and movie stars and movie culture and movie production and wacky history and facts and all that stuff. So get out your popcorn and your snow caps and your red vines because we're going to the movies. Where you're terrific if you're even good Where anyone at all from Shirley Temple to Amy sinful is equally understood Go out and try your luck, you might be Donald Duck Hooray for Hollywood We'll all start us off here
Starting point is 00:06:43 And I'm glad you guys mentioned both IMDB and 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon at the top Because I love both of those things I would say probably behind Wikipedia I spend the most amount of time just wasted on the internet just browsing IMDB just link after link you know who was in this movie oh they were in that movie oh who was in this one every time I watch
Starting point is 00:07:02 a movie I have my phone out on IMDB I get made fun of a lot for having to know who everybody was in that or if I'm watching movies in the theater the first thing after the movie's done and walk outside I was like I gotta go check who's this guy from so in that spirit I put together a quiz for you guys
Starting point is 00:07:18 called who was in that aka the right place at the right time okay and And I assembled this quiz. Okay. I had a colon. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I assembled this quiz through linking on IMDB. I would start with one movie in mind and I would click around. So all of these movies, I'm going to give you a list of movies. I love this. I'm going to give you a list of three movies. And you need to tell me who is the common thread. Who is in that? Who is in all three of the movies that I am naming?
Starting point is 00:07:48 And this is without the help of this. This is just off the top of our head. That's right. That's right. Not like one. actor who you know was in the background of all three people like and these are none of these are uncredited not an extra okay we're buzzing in yes uh go ahead and buzz in i will give you three movies uh and for no other reason then it tickles me i will be reading these in the first person
Starting point is 00:08:10 so oh i was in armageddon sin city and moonrise kingdom who am i dana you're bruce willis I am, Bruce Willett. Yes, he was a Moonrise Kingdom. Yes. All right, so you guys, get the concept. Here we go. Okay. I was in the King's speech.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I was in Planet of the Apes, the remake, and I was in Fight Club. Who am I? Karen. Helena Bonham Carter. Correct. Yes. And it was actually her in Planet of the Apes. It's the...
Starting point is 00:08:49 It's not like her voice. Not her voice. She was actually in the... She was in the suit. Yes, she was Ari, I believe, was her character's name in the suit. But I'm glad you mentioned that. Some of these may be voices of... They may be.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Might be. Okay. I was in the Blues Brothers when Harry met Sally and Star Wars. Who am I? Which Star Wars? Dana. You're Carrie Fisher. I am Carrie Fisher.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yes. She was Marine, where Harry was... met Sally, their friend they tried to hook up. She was obviously Princess Leia and Star Wars. Oh, yeah. And in Bluth brothers... In Bluth brothers, she was Jake's ex-girlfriend who was hunting him down
Starting point is 00:09:32 trying to kill him sort of over the course of the movie. The famous scene with her with a machine gun? Yes. I was in natural-born killers. Bowfinger and weird science. Oh, interesting. Whoa. Who am I?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Karen. Are you Anthony Michael Hall? I'm not Anthony Michael Hall. I have very recently made much, much, much money and fame portraying a superhero who wears a suit. They all do. Made of metal. Robert Downey Jr. Yes, I'm Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He was Wayne Gale. He was the tabloid reporter and natural born killers. He was Ian, one of the snobby teens. in weird science and he was Jerry Renfro he was the producer that Steve Martin's trying to impress
Starting point is 00:10:25 when he's in the restaurant in Bofinger. I like Bofinger. Bofinger's, I think is... Chubby Ray. Yeah, Bofinger makes me laugh. I was in Blade Runner Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Wall Street and Steel Magnolias. Who am I? Blade Runner, Wall Street, and Steel Magnolias. Dana. Darryl Hannah.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Darryl Hannah. Oh. She was the sex robot. She was. She was the replicate. Yeah. She was Pris in Blade Runner. She was Darian in Wall Street and Annell in Steel Magnolias.
Starting point is 00:11:06 All right. We're getting out to some of the smaller rules here. So, all right. It's hard. These are some movies I haven't really watched. All right. Okay. I was in total recall.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Last Action Hero. and casino Who am I? Sharon Stone Yes, I am Sharon Stone I was in the Truman Show Saving Private Ryan and 12 years a slave
Starting point is 00:11:34 Who am I? Wow This person is definitely a character actor I am Paul Giamatti Oh, that's right I am Paul Giamatti, yes The text, the directors in Truman show. He was Sergeant Hill in Saving Private Ryan.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And he was Freeman. He was like the evil, you know, slave dealer in 12 Years of Slave. All right. And this is one of my favorite examples and why I called this one the right place at the right time. I was in all of the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I was in all of the Matrix trilogy. And I was in the first three Transformers. Movies.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Who am I? Voices or actor? In the Transformers movie, I played a voice. Oh. Karen. Frank Welker? No, not Frank Welker. It is Hugo Weaving.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, yes. Agent Smith. Oh, man. That shouldn't have been a hard one. Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And here's a fun trivia question that you'll see on
Starting point is 00:12:48 movie boards a lot on the internet. Who is the only person to have been killed by an alien in the aliens movies, a Terminator in the Terminator movies, and a predator in the Predator movies. Wow. Is that Bill Paxton? It is. Oh, wow. The answer that people are looking for is Bill Paxton.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Now, game over, man. There is a little bit of dispute. So he's in the first Terminator movie. He's one of the punks, you know, that Orlon Schwarzenegger at cost at the very beginning, you know, when he's still, like, nude walking around. you don't actually see him die. So that's kind of an I'm actually point of contention. So just be advised.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm pretty sure he probably died. Yes. All right. Last one, guys. Who? Which are the only two characters to appear in all six Star Wars movies played by the same actor? Oh. Karen.
Starting point is 00:13:40 That's Palpatine. Incorrect. Is it C3PO and R2D2? It is. C3BO. An R2D2. Voiced and or played by the same actors in all six movies. Oh.
Starting point is 00:13:54 All right. Good job, guys. So I want to take you back, not to the very beginning of movies, but to the early sort of days of popular cinema. This will come up in trivia a lot. The first talkie, as they used to call them, or the first feature film full-length motion picture that actually had synchronized talking sound was not a silent picture. Was anyone? Yeah, was this the original jazz singer? This was the jazz singer?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yes, sorry, Al Jolson. So that was the first talkie. It was also the first musical. And I want to talk about the technology that it used, because this is some really weird stuff. Take a guess as to, like, say you run a movie theater. Yep. You're going to show the first talkie.
Starting point is 00:14:43 What gets delivered to you? I have a guess. the medium. I would guess that you get a reel or a set of film reels and a record. Yes, that's my guess. And you have to play them synchronous. You are absolutely right. This is the, I actually don't know how it's pronounced. I tried to find it. It's either the, it's, it's called vitifone or possibly vitifone. It comes from the Latin sound and living or living and sound, right? I better be vitifone, like vitamin. Okay, so we'll call it vitifone. Well, British people call it vitamin. Oh, what are we going to do? I don't know. So I'm going to call it.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Vitaphone because vitamins. Okay. Now, the weird thing about Vitaphone, and what they would do was they would film it while simultaneously recording the sound in the room onto a wax, you know, record. They actually
Starting point is 00:15:30 had already started developing within Warner Brothers, which is where the Vitaphone system came from, they were already working on sound on film. What they could do was they would, you know, as they're shooting the film, they could listen in on the sounds and convert
Starting point is 00:15:46 that into light and then expose it like an area on the side of the film and then read that back and re-translate it into sound. But it didn't sound as good when they were working on the two technologies. The quality was not very good at all. Now, the Vitaphone system actually sounded pretty great because they had, you know, recording grooves into records was already kind of something that was happening and it sounded really nice. So Warner pushed ahead with Vitaphone.
Starting point is 00:16:15 You might imagine that a lot of things could go wrong. Yes. Everything could in fact go wrong. So first of all, what they never had a problem with with silent pictures was the sound of the cameras. Because as they're like clackety, clackety clacketty clack. Like, yeah, like rolling the film through. Like this was not a problem. So they literally, when they were filming these first talkies, they had to take all the camera equipment and everything and put it all into a soundproof room where they were looking out windows.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And that was how they had to shoot this to obscure the sounds of the cameras from what the microphones were picking up. This was actually a problem for movie directors because it actually restricted the dynamism of the shots that they could get. Because it was pointed through a window at the, you know, what was going on. So that was a problem. If somebody blows a take, you know, it's like not only do you have the film that you just sort of wasted, but you were just recording this wax record, so throw that out, start, you know, start another one. Do you have to start the movie all over again?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, so you've now hit on problem number three, which is editing is now a colossal issue because now you can't just take the film, all the different parts of film, and splice up the scenes that you want. You can't edit it. You can't edit the record at all. Oh, that's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You can't. So you basically had to, like, do the scene, and they'd record into, the wax basically into the mold and then they listen to it standing there on set and make sure that it sounds correct and if that's good if they're happy with it then they then they run with that so let's say you finished and distributed your vitifone movie the theater now has to buy this entirely new projection system because it's not just like start the film and then go by an off-the-shelf record player there was a combination unit that you lined up the record with an
Starting point is 00:18:11 Arrow. We have this image of the, you know, the projectioner and the movie theater being the pimply face team, you know? Like, it was really a difficult job, especially with this technology back in the day, because like if something starts to go wrong, you have to make little tiny little manual adjustments to the speed of the film and the speed of the, they had like levers that would, they would let you like do a little bit. Yeah, if things got out of sync, it would immediately go from being like really entertaining to really embarrassing. Distracting. Yeah. Oh, and of course, if you drive. one of those discs it shatters
Starting point is 00:18:42 because they're not like vinyl, they're made of shalak and like crushed up bits of whatever. Yeah, and so you know, just gone. Oh, and then also you don't really have to worry about that because you can only really play these discs like oh, like 20 times. There's a noticeable drop in sound
Starting point is 00:18:59 quality because of the, you know, the record groove getting worn out. So you've got to get more discs. But the thing is, Warner really pushed ahead with this and they were like, no, this is it. Meanwhile, as this is all happening, guess what? Vast improvements are made in the sound to film technology, and that starts to get good.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And of course, it's much more, nothing ever gets out of sync because the sound and the pictures are right there. Tied together. Yeah. By the early 1930s, just a couple of years into Warner making this big push of like getting theaters to buy this expensive new equipment and doing all their movies on Vitaphone, sound to film started getting a lot better. and it was obvious that yeah and now there's a sort of a tight-knit community of people that actually works together with the movie studios and with like libraries and archival organizations to try to figure out what's on vitifone what where are the reels and where are the records and they're trying to match up reels and records so as people discover the records they're trying to be like oh i've got the reel and they'll restore them and put them together and make them available I hate out of sync sound. It's so... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So it is amazing how small duration is before your brain is like this is wrong. Your brain is so good at seeing out of sync. And it's irritating. It's like it drives people nuts. Yeah. I don't know about you guys. I'll ask. Do you guys have like lingo at work that your coworkers totally know?
Starting point is 00:20:30 But if you were talking to somebody else... Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would not know. Jorgon. So I have a quiz for you guys about film crews because they also have like slang and, like, slang and lingo for um their jobs things that come up for them and i i try to pick the things that are interesting and not too uh technical all right inside nerdy inside movies behind the scenes let's start with this what's above the line do you know what that means like on a on a crew who's
Starting point is 00:20:55 above the line oh wow chris a lot of crew mm-hmm on a film production is that is that like your name appears before the title of the movie and the credit sequence so people People whose names do appear there, yes, are above the line. It's the creative part of the production. They're the writer, producer, director, actors, and below the line are the people. Crew member. Okay. What about the Honeywagon?
Starting point is 00:21:24 What is that? I believe those are the porta-potties, right? The portable toilets? Yeah, the bathrooms and dressing rooms, yes. Yeah, I've noticed in other things that honey is a euphemism for poop. For poop. For poop. Yeah. Honeywagon.
Starting point is 00:21:38 The honey wagon. If somebody said hot points, what do you think that means? Hot points. Hot point. Take my clothes off? Delicious toast triangle. Take your marks maybe? Hot points.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Hot points. Hot mics. It means that they're carrying something heavy and you should get out of their way. Because you're moving heavy machinery around all the time. Hot points. It's hot and pointy. Covering all my bases. Yeah, that gets you out of the way.
Starting point is 00:22:04 If somebody says this is heavy, I'm like, I don't care. Great. It's hard. How points? Oh, I better get out of the way. What about the last man? There's a rule in film productions about the last man. What is that?
Starting point is 00:22:17 The last man. I don't know. I've heard of this, but I can't. Maybe something related to, like, shooting, I don't know, like the last man out shooting on a set for the day or something. I don't know. It's the last person to get their food for lunch. You can't start lunch until, you can't actually eat until everybody's gotten food.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Or you're not supposed to. Oh, okay. People get upset when people break the last man rule. Okay, so here are two common shots, two things that people talk about in terms of shooting. What's a choker shot? Whoa, whoa, choker shot. Or a screamer. They also call it a screamer. Yeah. Is it tightly zoomed in on the face?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, yeah, it's an extreme close up. Extreme close up. I read something that said, if you called it an extreme close up, they think you were an amateur. It's a choker or a screamer. Oh, nice. Now we know. Good to know. Yeah. What about a martini shot?
Starting point is 00:23:09 Martini shot. Is it just a shot of someone drinking any liquid? No. It is the last shot of the day. Oh, I have heard that. I haven't heard that before. Wait, what? Because after this, we go get our martini.
Starting point is 00:23:25 People talk about that a lot on set because it's important you don't know necessarily that they cut some scenes. It's like you should start wrapping up your work for the day. This is the martini shot we're done. Got it. So walkie-talkies are really important for communicating on set.
Starting point is 00:23:38 All this stuff about walkie-talkie etiquette. So what's 10-4? Okay. Yeah, I understand. Message received. How about 10-1? 10-1. Repeat that last message?
Starting point is 00:23:50 No. Oh, yeah, I was going to say, say again. I was going to guess that. Is, I've got to go to the bathroom. Number one. And 10-2 is. Yeah. Honeywagon, huh.
Starting point is 00:24:04 What's 10-3 combination? of you don't want to know I couldn't find it I was trying to pee and poop this is yeah I was like and then 104 is I understand it's a funny yeah right right okay pee poop question marks understand yeah
Starting point is 00:24:19 how about what's a hot brick something in the honey it's not like a hot point so that's a power strip or something oh you're kind of it's a working walkie talkie or a hot and a cold brick is a dead
Starting point is 00:24:36 A dead walkie-talkie. Like hot mic. Got it. He's got a hot brick. I got a cold brick. All right. On this set, who's the juicer? What's the juicer?
Starting point is 00:24:46 Electrician? Yes. Yeah. Oh, good. Okay, last one. What's golden time? Golden time. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Golden time. It's like that magic set of lighting, right? Like early in the morning or at the end of the day. That's the magic hour. That is a thing. It's like twilight, right? It's like late in the day. I think that's...
Starting point is 00:25:05 Golden Time. it's like extra overtime right it's like double yeah so there's regular time overtime and then golden time oh yeah which pays everybody which pays really well double pay mixed producers nervous right right golden time wow but magic hour is also with the lighting now it can sound like a yeah like yeah I got a cold brick here yeah yeah there's a really awesome blog I found um that talks about it's a guy who's a assistant cameraman, and it's called the black and blue.com. It was really well written. I read a few articles, and then I made the quiz, but I was,
Starting point is 00:25:44 that's cool. I love, I love it. You said, like, I love those lists of glossaries when it tells you, like, this is not really used in the industry. Like, if you use this, you'll sound like an outside. I love those. I love those. Very inside movies. Yeah. All right, guys, I have a opening question for you. What do the films transmorphers? on a train and Atlantic Rim have in common I can get
Starting point is 00:26:13 Chris they are shameless knockoffs they are straight to DVD shameless knockoffs they sound familiar but these films are considered mock buster that's a good word
Starting point is 00:26:29 that's great mockbuster is often and usually a low budget film created with an intention of, quote, tying in with a major film with a similar title or theme. That's right. Mockbusters today, these films actually never really make it to the theaters. They're not meant to make it to the theaters.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Like you said, Chris, they're mostly direct-to-video or directed DVD or sometimes TV. Well, they're supposed to be like on DVD when the actual film in question is still in the theaters, so it's fresh in people's minds. Right, right. And so here's the thing. So it's not necessarily they're trying to trick the audience. I think your usual audience is smart enough to know that the right movie, the blockbuster hit, is snakes on a plane, not stakes on a train. The way the industry talks about it is that they really see themselves as a tie-in.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Well, they know that there's going to be a huge marketing campaign behind the real thing. And so that interest that is generated for snakes in a mode of transportation, like some of, enough of that will just, they'll just get free advertising for their own movie. Like, oh, maybe I would like this one too. You guys are being far more charitable than I. I think that, like, if you're putting together a movie called Transmorphers, I feel like you're trying to trick people.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I feel like you're trying to just ride their co-tails. I think, I mean, there was this animated movie that had some other random title, but it was set in a cold climate. It was set in, I don't know, Alaska or something. Yeah. Frozen Land. But they retitled it Frozen Land as Frozen was coming out. It's not just a recent thing.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I mean, the movie industry has been doing the business of mockbusters for a very long time. For example, in 1959, there's the creature from the Black Lagoon, very famous. And there was another movie called The Monster of Piedras Blancas, which was definitely a mock buster of Creature of the Black Lagoon. Star Wars, Colin, Star Wars had a bunch of kind of knock-offs or imitators. There was a battle beyond the stars
Starting point is 00:28:39 and star crash. Sure, sure. And a lot of people would call mockbusters B-movies, right? And do you guys know where B-movies come from, the term B-movies? Well, I just figured it was like, like, A-side, B-side. Yeah, that's just what I figured. So back in the day, the Golden Age of Hollywood, when, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:55 people went to the movie theaters for like half a day, they have double features. Your first feature is the main big feature. And that's the A movie. That's the A movie. And then your B movie is the cheaper, lower budget, kind of schlocky, you know, later in the day. That makes sense. And so now that movie theaters don't do double feature anymore, I think, like, in the 50s, they stopped.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But somehow that term still stuck with a lower budget movie, which is a B movie. But throughout history, we've seen a lot of movie trends or themes and audience. taste. It's not just tied to mock busters. It ties to even major blockbusters, right? I remember in the 90s there was a lot of natural disaster movies or end of the world movies.
Starting point is 00:29:41 There was deep impact. There was Armageddon. They're all kind of bunched together. And there was some sort of like marketing tastes for a particular type movie. And like you can say currently we're in a superhero's craze. Right. And all of your major blockbusters. Also
Starting point is 00:29:56 the dystopian a teen, young adult movie. I feel like there's also a lot of those right now. But no one has done the business of mockbusters as well as the company known as the Asylum. They have made a great business
Starting point is 00:30:12 model and this is what they do. They will jump on publicities of upcoming blockbusters and make low budget versions either for TV or for DVD or for streaming. And those come out around the same time your major
Starting point is 00:30:28 the major original, I guess, film is coming out in the theaters. So the asylum was founded by former film industry executives and in the beginning the company was doing low-budget films, usually in like the horror kind of genre.
Starting point is 00:30:45 But in 2005, something really interesting happened. They produced a low-budget adaptation of War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells. Which was released in the same year as Stephen Spielberg's War of the World. And this is still in the industry of home video rentals.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Blockbuster ordered a significant amount of mockbuster War of the World. And so it made them think, oh, this is something we're onto. And this was kind of the changing point. But now it's like they're latching on to this idea of mock busters. Funny enough, Asylum never lost money on a film. Well, because they don't spend that money. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, so much of the budget for films,
Starting point is 00:31:28 is marketing, right? Which they don't have to do. They don't have to do it. Here I have a quick lightning round. I'm going to name the asylum mockbuster. Tell me what the source movie is. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Okay. The Da Vinci Treasure. The Da Vinci. We probably don't have to be buzzing. You're right. You're right. Yeah, let's tell it. Pirates of Treasure Island.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Pirates of the Caribbean. I am a little. Omega. This is a clever one. I am Omega. What is it? I am legend. It's I am legend, which is based on the Omega Man.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Oh, man. So they combined both. I am Omega. Paranormal entity. Paranormal activity. Oh, yeah. I can see people getting confused about that one really easily. We picked up this, we never watched it, but it's this like CG animated movie.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It's, and the title, the title is, ratatooing R-A-T-A-T-O-I-N-G What even is this? I'm not even diving into the animated mockbusters The animated Pixar knock-offs There's so many of them
Starting point is 00:32:42 And they're horrible Yeah Like some of the animated knockoffs It's like watching a PlayStation 1 video game They're done by like Yeah they're done by like a Brazilian company That keeps churning them out Yeah, ratatooing
Starting point is 00:32:54 Ratatooing Ratatooing I think one of them is what's up a house with balloons that one I kind of want to watch that one actually you know what's up balloon to the rescue what's up balloon to the rescue
Starting point is 00:33:11 video brinkato Brazilian CGI animation studio made a little cars as well which is a car is rat tattooing the frog prince not to be confused with the princess and the frog kind of shameless Monsters Limited Liability Corporation
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah Monsters LLC Yeah Monsters GMBH Yeah But outside of the business of Mockbusters The Asylum made
Starting point is 00:33:40 quite a pretty penny On what they thought was just a ton-cheek movie that spawned a whole bunch of other movies And this movie was of course Probably heard of it Mega Shark versus giant octopus
Starting point is 00:33:54 Oh yeah This spawned a whole bunch of Asylum monster movies including Mega Piranha Mega Shark versus Crocosaurus and Mega Python versus Gatoroid
Starting point is 00:34:09 Of course probably we know Shark Nado Shark Nado 2 just released on sci-fi And this is kind of also part of Asylum's business model aside from mockbusters They also have these kind of A lot of these TV movies that are to sci-fi
Starting point is 00:34:25 Or to Lifetime. They're not trying to be a real blockbuss. No, they're very tongue and cheek. Very tongue and cheek. Which one did they put on lifetime, do you know? Married to a shark depotus. My stepson, my shark.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Not without my shark. Not without my shark. I believe just in the last week or so, I was flipping through and caught a bit of mega shark versus mecca shark. Wow. Yes, yes. Which is exactly what you think it is.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I can't believe. Well, you know, part of it. of it are underwater, Dana, but no, it's mostly on land. That's what I was, I was like, it's... I just don't, I just wanted to say I don't understand how Mega Shark and Mecha Shark didn't reconcile their differences and or team up. Yeah, it seems like they have more in common than the differences. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:12 What if they reproduce? Mega Mecca Shark Baby. But Mecha Shark is a robot, right? There's no reproductive organs. Hey, man, nanosperm. Ew. I don't know, you know, nanosperm. You know, fill in the details.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah, yeah. For example. Hey, I'm just problem solving here, you guys. That's true, yeah. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And you've just been hired by asylum. Yeah. All right, let's take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:37:56 Okay. Wilhelm! Yeah, I'll just fill my pipe. Ah! I know that guy. Wilhelm. You do know that guy, Chris, and his name is Wilhelm. And this is, although this movie is largely unknown,
Starting point is 00:38:16 it is famous for giving a name to perhaps the most famous sound effect in Hollywood history. And I believe Chris knows what this is. The Wilhelm scream. Yes, the Wilhelm scream. And what the Wilhelm scream is, was, shall be, is a stock sound effect of the man screaming. This was not uncommon, especially in the 1950s and 60s of if you had a particular sound effect, it would show up again and again and again, particularly within one given studios' movies. Oh, like a library of them.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Exactly. They would create a library of here's, you know, arrow being shot. Here's sword clash. You know, so as, you know, as a movie maker or sound engineer, you don't need to recreate these sounds every single time. And this particular scream has become one of the most, if not the most used stock sound effect ever, ever. Oh, yeah. First appeared in this movie. So let's back up, let's back up a couple years.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It was first used in a movie called Distant Drums from 1951. It was a Gary Cooper movie, and it was basically about explorers, you know, in and around. the Everglades and their interactions with the Native American tribes. Safe to say, not a terribly politically correct movie by today's standards. But one of the scenes in distant drums featured a man getting attacked by an alligator as they're going through the Everglades. And they recorded originally for that movie several samples of a guy screaming that then they would lay in afterward.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And that was the source of the original scream. But it didn't take its name until, as I played for you, now the charge at Feather River where Wilhelm and then he gets shot in the leg and so as I say you know this went into a library of sound effect vault kind of thing and you'd use it when needed and it was actually featured in you know some big name movies into the 50s and 60s it was in a star is born it was in PT 109 so why is this a big deal this is a big deal because this sound effect was reintroduced to the world in a small movie you may have heard of called Star Wars Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Ben Burt, who was the sound designer on Star Wars, as well as a number of other George Lucas movies. He found this clip on a reel, basically, as he was creating all the sound effects for Star Wars. And he found it labeled Man Being Eaton by Alligator. And I think, you know, you're going to need that. And partly out of his need for a sound of someone falling, and I think partly out of his just sort of mischievous streak, he decided to put it into Star Wars. So let me play you the clip where it appears in Star Wars. I'm trying to guess where it is.
Starting point is 00:40:59 This is when Luke and Leia are escaping across the chasm and the Stormtroopers on the other side. Okay. It's one of those sound effects where once you hear it, it just jumps out at you. Yeah. So from there, really, this is just, you know, the late 70s, early 80s, early 80s. it kind of exploded. Well, Star Wars was sort of a influential film on many young directors.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Absolutely. And in some ways, I guess it kind of became like an in-joke almost as the way to put it in-mage. Yeah, in-jokes slash homage slash like Easter egg for other people in the industry. You know, that as a sound designer, you'd find a way to sneak the Wilhelm scream into your movie just so that everyone else who's in the know can be like, oh, hey, Wilhelm scream and kind of, you know, nudge their date. They're so cool. You know the joke, apparently. Stop talking during the movie. George Lucas uses this a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Stephen Spielberg has used it a lot. Quentin Tarantino, when he was first introduced to the Wilhelm Scream, kind of just fell in love with it. He has used it. Peter Jackson has used it as well. And it's kind of become, you know, and all of these people that I just named, they're film nerd directors.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You know what I mean? They all really kind of like, I think, tying themselves to this rich history of the Wilhelm scream. I can, I don't have the time here to list. all of the movies that this sample has been used in, but I will give you a sampling of some of the greatest hits of movies wherein you can find the Wilhelm scream.
Starting point is 00:42:33 In no particular order, Despicable Me, Inglorious Bastards, Reservoir Dogs, Kung Fu Panda, Beauty in the Beast, and Aladdin, Raiders of the Lost Ark, as I mentioned, Indiana Jones in the Temple of Doom. And this one, I think, merits special note because it's actually used as the sound of one of Mola Ram's thugs being eaten by an alligator.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yes, it's a wink-wink inside of a wink-wink. Wow. Toy Story. Lord of the Rings, Return of the King and the Two Towers. Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. Pirates of the Caribbean. Transformers. Up.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Titanic. And every single one of the Star Wars movies. Wow. So it's, again, we have Star Wars to think for many things. And in perpetuating the Wilhelm scream is one of them. Wilhelm Scream. What about the guy who screamed? The guy who screamed, Karen, I'm so glad you asked.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Ben Bird himself did a little bit of research into this, and a couple of other magazines and film writers have dug into this. By all accounts, it seems that the man who created the original scream was Sheb Woolley, who you may not know the name right away. I've heard the name. He was a famous voice actor, and he did some novelty songs. His most famous hit was The Purple People Heelie. leader.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yes. Yes. Wow. So Sheb Woolley, a purple people leader, uh, also gave us the Will Helm Scream. Here it is, uh, here's a, here it features in Batman Returns. This is, this is Batman tossing a thug off the roof. Okay. Ah!
Starting point is 00:44:14 It's so dramatic. Yeah. I love how dramatic. Who that? Oh. Yeah. I'm going to talk about. Alan Smithy, who's extremely prolific.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Some of his credits include Harraiser Bloodline, Miding Ducks the movie, the first face-off. He directed Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You Video. As well as Paula Coles, I don't want to wait video. Whoa. He wrote five issues of the Daredevil comic book,
Starting point is 00:44:38 and he wrote two episodes of McGuiver. The Renaissance, man. Yeah, he dabbles in everything. Yeah, wow. Who is this Alan Smithy? He might be asking yourself. I don't know. You guys know.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I know. Yeah. Alan Smithy is a pseudonym for people who don't want to take credit for their work, you know, for whatever reason. Maybe it was political reasons. Maybe they felt like. Embarrassed. They're embarrassed. Or they, sometimes when you're working on a creative thing with other people and you're the creative vision holder and somebody else gets in there. Like, you're like, well, this wasn't really my vision. It's not me. Yeah. I don't want my name on it. Interesting. Alan Smithy. Yeah. He has a really long IMDB page. That is so cool. It's like a code name. They stopped using it because everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:21 figured out the code. Or they stopped using it on movies. That was just fairly recently, right? That the director still said they were no longer going to accept that, right? Yeah, it was early 2000. So it started in 1969 on the death of a gunfighter. The director of that movie's name was Robert Totten. There was just a lot of drama with the lead actor.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Richard Widmark. Richard Widmark didn't like working with Totten. So he got him kicked off the film, got him replaced for something else. The film was almost done. There wasn't that much shooting left. the new director Don Siegel finished it up and then at the end he was like I don't really feel like this was my movie
Starting point is 00:45:56 and Totten was like I don't feel like it was my movie either so they went to the Directors Guild of America directors had to put their real names on there because they wanted to protect directors in case the producers like hey we're going to say somebody else made this movie they were like no it has to be the director so the director's guild was like yeah I see why you don't want to put your name on this
Starting point is 00:46:16 okay they came up with a new name it's kind of like inconspicuous it sounds like somebody's name, but it's not anybody's name. It got released under Alan Smithy, and people liked the movie. It actually was it. Like, critics were really impressed. They're say, we've never seen anything from Alan Smithy before. They just expect
Starting point is 00:46:32 that you just sort of bomb and go away. And it's like, oh, who is this first-time director? And they were not supposed to tell people that they worked on it. And, I mean, I don't think that maybe they did, but it got out eventually that Alan Smithy was a pseudonym for those two guys.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So that was 1969. And then A movie came out the year before where the director also wanted to get his name off of it. So he retroactively made his movie, an Allen Smithy movie. There were a lot of movies made by, like, Autors, Dune, for instance. David Lynch didn't like the TV editing of Dune. So he made Judas Booth, like as Judas Ascariot and John Wilkes Booth. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I didn't know that. But just for the TV version of Dune. For the TV version of Dune. I believe also in The Simpsons. when Mr. Burns has a Burns for All Seasons movie made about his life. I think it shows up as an Allen Smithy film. Really? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:47:45 We have one last quiz segment. Yes. I'd like to close this out with, a movie quotes quiz. Hey, I remember you did this last time and you tricked us. Right, this is not a trick. Okay. There's no trick here.
Starting point is 00:47:58 However, all of the quotes are certain kinds of quotes. They are quotes in which people in the movies say the name of another character in the movie. So I'm going to leave that part of it as a blank. Okay. Got it. Right? And then you are going to tell me what character name did they say. Now, implicit in this is you figuring out what movie the quote is from,
Starting point is 00:48:19 which would then lead you. probably to what the character name is. So we're not doing who is saying the quote. Not who is saying the quote, but the name. Not the name of the movie, but all these things should follow once you figure out what name should be in there. Here we go. That's the secret grand adventure of the infamous blank. You spent three days on a beach drinking rum.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Karen. Jack Sparrow. Jack Sparrow. Yes. All right. In the first movie. From Pirates of the Treasure Chess. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Okay, here's one. Okay. If Blank had all the judges and all the politicians in New York, then he must share them or let us others use them. Colin. Don Corleone. Don Corleone. From the godfather. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I'm here to rescue you. I've got your R2 unit. I'm here with Blank. Colin. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah, I'm going to give it to you because he says... Ben Kenobi. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yes. From Skywalker, Star, Princess, Land. Star battles. Star battles. I'm going to vote for blank because she got hit by that bus. Regina George. Regina George, yes.
Starting point is 00:49:41 From Mean Girls. While you were out stealing Hubcaps, I lettered in track. I can't believe. it. Blank turned jock? Karen. Danny Zucco. Danny Zucco. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:49:58 From Greece. Yeah. Excellent. A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets. But now you all know that there was a man named blank and that he saved me in every way a person can be saved. Oh, what's the full name? Oh, man. What is the full name?
Starting point is 00:50:15 You've got to get first name and last name. It's, um... It's not ringing a bell for me. Karen. Jack Wilson? Oh, very close. The last part of the name, correct? I did.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Somethingson. Jack Blankson. Is this Titanic? Yes. Oh, man. His name was Jack Nicholson. He was the prettiest boy in the world. Jack Dawson.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Dawson. Rose Dodd. You know, like, Rose Dot. Wait, did they get married? No, but she changed her last name to honor his last name when she came to America. That is so weird. I did not remember that part of the movie. That is strange. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:54 You can't just take someone else's name arbitrarily. She just met this dude like for me right. Sure. And who, in case she doesn't hang, can say she started with a bang. Blank. And who in case that's got to be. Can say she started with a bang. Blank. It is for a musical.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Oh. Cair. Roxie Hart. Roxy heart. Yeah. Actual. Actual hanging. Actual hanging.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Not hanging out with my girls. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah, the death penalty. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the king and queen of the spring prom, Tommy Ross and blank. Oh. Colin. Carrie.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Uh, uh, what is her last name? Wilson Oh, Carrie Dawson No, it's Carrie White Oh, yes White is white Oh, you can remember that Because she gets coated in there
Starting point is 00:51:56 Exactly, Carrie White Yeah, because the mean kids rigged it Yeah, because symbolism Sure Here's one you might know Sassy, blank I'm sorry but we're going to have to cross here Sassy
Starting point is 00:52:09 Sassy Blank I'm sorry but we're going to have to cross here He's the character who's addressing two characters One of them is named Sassy And the other one is named Blank The character who's addressing sassy and blank Is named Shadow
Starting point is 00:52:24 Karen What's the answer Sassy Oh my god It's the Staffordshire Well-Theran Champ, no not champ Oh so close
Starting point is 00:52:38 You're so close Chance Chance From Oh my god Homeward back Keaton always said, I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Well, I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Blank. Colin. Is that Kaiser Soze? That's Kaiser Sozee from unusual suspects. Nice, nice. And finally, well, well, Captain Blank, I had to see this for myself, and I told you that if you were ever a shrimp boat, Captain, I'd be your first maker.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Oh, Forest Goop. Yes, Forest Goff. They spoke by Lieutenant Dan. But you ain't got no legs, Lieutenant Dan. That was part two of this episode, which is the entire script. It acted out by Karen. That was good. That quiz, like it throws your brain into that, oh, I know this.
Starting point is 00:53:32 What is it, mode. Right. All right. And that is our movie episode. Thank you guys for joining me. And thank you guys listeners for listening in. Hope you learned a lot of stuff about screams. about production lingo, about the vitifone, Vitaphone, and about snakes on a train and other
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