Good Job, Brain! - 156: Fantastical Food

Episode Date: July 16, 2015

Hold your breath. Make a wish. Count to three. Come with me, and you'll be... in a world of PURE IMAGINATION.... and of filling your face with fantasy food! We've talked about the history behind Willy Wonka, but what about the failed and successful modern attempts of bringing Roald Dahl's whimsical candy onto store shelves? Karen took a stroll on Fleet Street and found a weird trend with pies... and Dana got dark too with a horror food quiz. Find out what real foods you're eating now are actually impostors, and why is the Mock Turtle crying in Alice in Wonderland. What the heck *IS* a mock turtle? Of course, a pretty intense Harry Potter food quiz (along with a "Fake? Or British?" sub-segment). And yes, one (just one) Star Wars food trivia question. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, smoking, smart, smooth, smashing, smoldering, smilers. Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and off-be trivia podcast. This is episode 156. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your amusing and animated adores of alliteration. I'm Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm Chris.

Let's jump in to our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz, Hot Shot! Actually, note here. What? Not a lot of people know where Pop Quiz Hot Shot came from. Oh. Is that unbelievable? Should we let them now?

Because people would write and be like, oh, I heard someone else say Pop Quicks Hot Shot. I was like, no, no, we didn't invent it. Yeah, it's from the movie Speed, right? Yes, from the movie Speed, where the villain Dennis Hopper. Asked Kianu or Pop Quiz Hot Shot. I guess the different challenges they have to do. I think there was a commercial in like the early 90s, late 80s where they said that too.

It was like maybe for cereal or something. They got inspired by that. We don't know. Well, well, Pop Quiz Hot Shot may come from something else, but made famous. by speed. We're alluding. Good job, brain.

Made famous way. That was only in the movie once. Yeah. We've done it 156 times. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Your honor. All right. Okay. All right.

So the premise of this is I have some random Trivial Pursuit cards from different versions of Trivial Pursuit games. I'm going to pick one card. You guys have your barnyard buzzers and buzzin with the answer. Do do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, randomizing. Dude, all right, it is Trivial Pursuit Entertainment Single. Oh, I was hoping for Entertainment.

I don't know what that means. I don't know. Entertainment singles. Is it just single people? Or is it just like, you don't play the game, you just have cards? Is it a game? Oh, maybe. Let's see if they end up all being.

Single people, and then we'll know the answer. Okay, all right. Blue Wedge for TV, here we go. What sitcom starring Richard Mulligan of soap was set in the same Miami neighborhood as the Golden Girls? Oh, I actually know this one. Colin. That was Empty Nest. Yes.

Correct. That's about a single person. Is it? I think so. Oh, because he is empty. I guess. I don't think his wife. Okay.

All right. Uh, pink wedge for music. What rock group of hits like Kryptonite was originally a trio? Oh, Dana. Three doors down? Three doors down. Uh, yellow wedge for movies. What Oscar nominated director of the piano won the award for best screenplay?

Oh, I'm going with calling. Uh, was that, uh, Jane Camping? Correct, Jane Campion. Uh, Purple Wedge for GA. I think the idea here is that the card itself is only entertainment questions. Therefore, it's a single, single card. I see. Yeah, okay.

Like on one single card, you get all of these entertainment questions. Yeah, can't figure it out. Oh, okay. But why they just call it an entertainment edition? Beats me. This is what happens when we get a card and no instructions. Yeah, no contact. All right.

Mystery. What sport originally called? called Mintonet was invented by William G. Morgan, a friend of basketball inventor James Naismith. Wow, everybody. Badminton. Incorrect. What?

Highlight? No. Mintonet? Invented by a friend of the basketball. Volleyball. You guys all thought was badminton? Yeah. Well, yeah, Minton.

Yeah, we all just kind of... I mean, I guess that is older. That is too old. Yeah, you're right. Maybe, I don't know. Okay, so it's going to be around... Around the same time as basketball. around the same time as basketball.

It's not High-L-I? No. Are you sure it's not High-L-L-L-I? That's a modern one. I mean, maybe volleyball. It is volleyball. Oh, yeah? Okay.

Huh. M-T-N-N-N-N-E-N-T-N-N-T-N-E. I played volleyball in high school, and I didn't know that. How do you spell M-T-N-T-E? That is good trivia. Yeah. Yeah, it does sound dainty. It does.

It sounds like a little pastry treat. Yeah, and then, but volleyball's like, ugh. Spike in someone's face. That's the goal is to spike it in someone's face. That's how they teach you to play. That is. Yeah. Right?

No. Well, they're not in someone's face. Yeah. If you can avoid it. The point counts. Do you get a foul if it hits someone in the face? No. No.

Yeah. Well, if it hits their face, they're probably not going to... Well, they should be paying attention. Like, you'd have to really work with it. Yeah. Well, I mean, all kidding aside, the thing to keep in volleyball, hitting someone in a face, that counts as one of their hits. So the ball's, so the ball's,

still in play. The ball's still in play. You'd rather hit the floor. Yeah. Got it. Got it. All right. But everybody would be so, like, distracted.

Like, oh, no, my teammate. They're bleeding. I've been on both ends of that, and neither end feels particularly good. Okay. All right. Green wedge for B.O. Okay. Box office, maybe?

Oh, box maybe. What veteran newspaper columnist of gangsters and ordinary New Yorkers penned the Good Rat in 2008. Book. Oh, my God. B.O. Book. Oh. Oh. Okay. Veteran. Newspaper reporter of gangsters and... Ah, man. Chris, Mafia.

Elmore Leonard? No. It is... David Simon? It is... Oh, David Simon. You mean the show creator of homicide on the street and also the wire. Yeah. I mean, I know he... It is not. Okay. Jimmy Brown.

Uh, okay, okay. Jimmy just, he's just like, if you looked a picture of him, he'd be like, yep, that's an old school New York journalist. Okay. Oh, speaking of which, actually, Chris, I don't know if you know this. In Vegas, there is a mob museum. Oh, really? Yeah.

That's cool. You should go, it's the museum of organized crime. Oh, exciting. And they have like a bunch of, they have like. Were they active in Las Vegas? Oh, they were, huh? Oh, they built it. Did they build Las Vegas?

Oh, my God, that makes sense. I was like, what a random... It's like, oh, Britney Spears, and I was like, a mop museum. That's so random. Oh, my God, I'm so dumb. No, the Britney Spears concert is random. Wow, that's right. Of course it would be in Vegas.

Okay. Last question, Orange Wedge for a WC. Water closet. Water closet. All W.C. Fields category. What Kojack star died a day after his 72nd birthday? Oh, everybody. Tell me to them all.

Correct, the star of Kojack. Can you name someone else that was an actor that was in Kojak? Who is a star as well? I cannot. I cannot. I cannot. The lollipop. All right.

Good job, Brains. So this week's topic, I hinted, well, we actually talked about it two episodes ago, how that might be a good idea. And then I teased about it in our mini episode. And how I teased it was, if you remember, I played a clip from a movie. and that movie was Hook the Robin Williams movie

and it was the scene where him and all the lost boys and Rufio were about to eat a feast and it turns out it was all invisible food and that you had to imagine it so today our episode is about fantasy foods I need like a child

yeah or like some pan flutes or something yeah Leave that I think of like The arc pans like half goat Half voice Yeah

Pans Actually the song I was thinking For this episode I don't know if I'm going to use it yet But I was gonna Because it was like it's a fake fictional food So I was gonna get the theme song Where it's like

You take a hot dog What is it? Yeah Hot dog With some jack cheese Or get in a pizza You get cheesy blasters

You take a hot dog stuff it with some jack cheese folded in a pizza You got cheesy blasters And then all the kids say Thanks Meat Cat And then Meat Cat flies away On his skateboard

Well folks This was going to happen If we're going to do a fantasy food episode Which is that I have prepared A Harry Potter Food-based quiz Food-based Yeah you know

Well Colin get eggs in the Harry Potter no series. You said no? I may have said no somewhere in there, yeah. Well, we'll find out. We'll find out. We'll see. Proof me wrong.

Prove me wrong. Unless, like... You'll just buzz in and Colin just taking that. You're doing... Maybe. I don't know what you're doing, but if you do a Star Wars food quiz... Yeah, maybe. Maybe he is. Maybe he is.

Yeah, that's great. If blue milk is an answer, we're good. Well, damn it. That's my one question. That was the one question. question okay all right well uh some of us have read harry potter so uh let's begin so we'll start off here is a question let me ask you this question in the books is butter beer alcoholic yes or no no i say yes dana i think yes it is mildly mildly yeah very very mildly alcoholic we know this

Colin, because Winky the house elf in a scene you must remember from the books Swinky the house elf gets herself good and drunk off of butter beer. However, it does not seem to affect humans as so much. If you go to the

Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme park in any of the various cities where that exists, which I suggest you do, butter beer is not alcoholic. For obvious reasons. Indeed. Because we're not in England. What food item? What food item is described in the Prisoner of Ascaband film as being made of 70% croco.

Oh, you know what? Do you want a guess, Colin? No, you will get it. You might get it. You might get it. It's made of croco. Frog. You're so close.

Let's not talk chocolate for him. Chocolate. Yes. Oh, chocolate frogs. I actually knew that was a thing. Somehow, that was, yeah. That's made of croco. In the film, yeah, somewhere written on something somewhere.

That's clever. Yes, yes. That is very clever. Okay, this is a deep cut, Colin, you can go to the bathroom. At what event during the Harry Potter books, at what specific event during the Harry Potter books, did the spread of food include? Maggety haggis, a slab of cheese covered in green mold,

and peanuts covered in fungus, among other delectables. specific event in the Harry Potter books This is the Tri-Wizard Tournament It's not the Tri-Wizard Tournament That would have been gross Magadie Haggis

A slab of cheese Covered in green mold And peanuts covered in fungus This is a specific Celebration There was also a rotting cake Oh A really disgusting looking cake

Karen Is this Aragog's birthday It's not Aragog's birthday It is aragog's birthday It is, however, nearly headless Nick's death day party. Ghosts is a ghost, celebrate their death day. Ghosts cannot eat, but if the food rots enough, they can sort of smell it. Oh, that's cute.

Yeah. That's kind of sad. Now, here's something weird about Harry Potter. These are British books. We are the part of the Harry Potter American audience, And sometimes... Do they localize some of this stuff? Well, they localize some of the stuff, but sometimes they don't localize it.

And for us, it's just sort of like, what actually is... Is this a fake food that J.K. Rowling made up? Or is this a real good food? Yeah, so fake or British. No. So at Harry's first Christmas dinner at Hogwarts, he eats, among other things, Chippolata's. C-H-I-P-O-L-A-T-A-S.

I remember that. What are chippolattas? Chippolattas. Chippolattas. I'm going to guess weird knockoff Mexican food. Like it is British. And it's like something got lost in translation.

French fries with cheese? Yeah. Chiladas, but with chips. They're actually sausages. They're small, thin sausages. Yeah. And that's actually British. Well, I mean, British people would know them more

than we do, yeah. Oh, wow. Yep. Yeah, there's sausages. Chippolata. Chippiladas. I'm super excited because I get to say the phrase spotted dick, which is a dish that appeared in Goblet of Fire.

I think we all know that it is real. What is it? Describe it to me. Colin. I believe it's like a bready pudding with raisins of something like that. That's it. It's a steamed sponge pudding. So sort of like a sponge cake, but it's been cooked by steaming it.

And it's spotted with raisins. Where's a dick come from? So if you had it without raisins. Like, is there other variants of dicks that are like, you know, like, no, you're wearing. I think it's a slang for pudding. Yeah, I think. I believe so. It doesn't have people.

So, um, more British food that we encounter very early on in the series. What is a knicker. Bocker Glory. Whoa. It seems to be sort of a, you know, a euphemism or, you know. Nicker-Bocker glory. Yeah. Metaphor.

Nicker-Bocker glory. Is it an alcoholic beverage? It is not. It does sound like a cocktail. Dudley eats it. It's a food that Dudley eats. So it's some kind of candier kick. Yeah.

It is basically an ice cream sundae. It's in a tall glass, like one of those tall kind of milkshake glasses. with fruit at the bottom and ice cream on the top. Oh, you know what's funny, it sounds so American, Nickerbucker. Yeah, it sounds very July 4th, doesn't it? Yeah. And that's real.

It's real. That's real. Kipper, the food Kipper, has mentioned three times. What are kippers? They're a little fish, right? They're a little fish. Oh. Salt cured, dried fish.

Kippers or yippers? Kippers. Kippers. Kippers. Like, mud, skippers. Yeah. So, in April 2015, the Wizarding World of Harry Potter attraction in Orlando, Florida, and I'm actually very excited to hear this.

April 2015, it began serving this alcoholic drink, which Harry tries for the first time in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. This is the hard stuff. The kids drink butter beer, and you always hear the grown-ups drinking this. I'm not sure. You hear about this a lot. It's fire whiskey. Everybody sits around drinking fire whiskey.

So, yeah, it's the real version. is a cinnamon-flavored whiskey. Like fireball. Like fireball. They sell you a fireball. It's like you're in a sorority all of a sudden. It's like... But it's more magic.

And finally, obviously, when you're talking about Harry Potter food, you've got to think of Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans, which are like jelly bellies, but contain literally every flavor. I have heard of these. Every flavor. Now, there is a real-life version that is made by Jelly Belly, which contains a nice normal jellybelly flavors and then gross out flavors.

Right. Of the gross out flavors contained in the real-life version, what three are based on substances that come out of the human body? I feel like it was Karen. Yeah. Earwax. Yeah, earwax. Boogers, I believe. Vomit.

Vomit. There you go. Try. Yeah. Pee and poop flavored Probably just A little too much for Jelly Melly Yes

And that's it Gross quiz Good job Colin Yeah I'm just as surprised as you are You guys know me I like to read about weird Yeah Maybe horror

Macabre stuff Sure You do I do know that about you I like reading about it a lot No like reading the actual horror stories But the Wikipedia Yeah yeah

Which is enough. It's like it removes you. It's like one level of... It's like a resource. Right. It's very scientific. Yeah. But it's safer if you read the Wikipedia.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, is there a bad fantasy food? Because it seems like food is always so fanciful in Winskulls. There's a bad fantasy food item that exists in the fantasy or fictional world. Um, and I came across the weird trend of, uh, human meat pies. That's in a lot of stuff. Oh, really?

Baking human meat into things is like... Like, famously, Sweeney Todd. Yes, yes, yes. You might know it as a musical or a film or a film musical. But really, it was originated as one of those newspaper serials, like little booklets, like the little petting dreadfuls. And you read, and it's always like kind of like juicy and gothic and horror to like get the... Yeah, get the people going in it. And so in the story, he's the, what, the demon barber of Fleet Street.

He pairs up, Sweeney Todd, pairs up with his neighbor who is a baker. and he kills the people he's barbering or he's shaving. And then his neighbor bakes it into meat pies and sells it. People like. And people love it. Oh, they're great. William Shakespeare. And this is probably one of the weirdest and most violent and gory thing, William Shakespeare.

I think, you know, my own opinion wrote is Titus Adronicus. Man, I don't know if you guys ever read the story of Titus and Dronicus. It is F up. There's a lot of really weird stuff, and one of the scenes, and one of the scenes is Titus serves his opponent, a pie made of the woman's sons, basically. Woman's two sons baked in a pie. And I read up more about... I feel like for fictionally, it's like you can get away with the trope of like, oh, someone made human meat. Because it's in a pie, so it's like, well, they wouldn't know.

Yeah, because it's all minced a pie. Pots of stuff. Yeah, yeah. And you sort of expect that the pie is going to be a whole bunch of, you know, it's very spiced. And yeah. Yeah. Right. So this is pretty recent.

In the 2000s, I don't know if you guys remember this. You served us all. Human meat pie. I don't know if you remember that time. That time. When I made a pecona. I was acting kind of weird. I'm still unsure if this is a joke or not, but this did exist.

It's something called Hu-fu. if you were to break down the words what do you think human food no h you f you f you oh human under for us bias yeah it's human and tofu it's human and tofu

oh okay okay sure it is a tofu product designed to resemble human flesh and taste and text It's a joke But you can buy it Okay For the curious

They have clever taglines Like for cannibals who want to quit Deep rooted in people who are Interested in studying cannibalism Well now it's gone Obviously they don't sell or make them anymore But yeah It's kind of weird

I don't remember this I do not remember that I believe it though I guess you can make like a fake human pie meat pie. And it's vegetarian. Yeah. Put some haggis. One last thing.

And this is a fictional food. Do you guys know what umbles are? Ummbles. Umbles. No. Umb. It's an old old. U.M.

It used to be humbles. It's um, it's just U.M. It's like, it's like it's like. Custicles. Is this like, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's dear. Offal. Awful. Awful. Yeah. Umbles and offals. But specifically deer. Okay. That's interesting. I wonder if it has to do with like humble and awful. Yeah. The umbles and the awful. The umbles and the awful. So, but specifically this is deer, deer and

organs, like the bad parts of them. The awful of deers is called umbles. Uh, and when you bake a pie out of umbels, you call it an umble pie. And the myth is the phrase humble pie when someone's like, oh, someone ate a slice of humble pie, they're referring to humble pie, a pie made of deer entrails, and because that's what the lower class people eat. Right, right. So eating a slice of umal pie. That sounds a little

pat. That sounds a little pat. That's a little pat. That's a little pat. But humble pie does come from the fact that there used to be pies made out of umbels. So is humble pie an egg corn? Oh. Maybe. Maybe. Or, yeah, it might be. But they used to take ages out

and add ages back in for But we're just like, oh, you're eating humbleness. You're eating a big slice of thing. Yeah, maybe someone's just like humble, humble pie. Oh, that's true. That could be a background. So there's some meat pie. Those are some weird facts.

I like that, yeah, you went kind of like the inverse, the fantasy. Everybody's like so magical and great. It's like, guess what? I'm going to go body horror tofu. Is anybody else seeing Colin right now as a turkey with wavy lines coming off of it? It's always a turkey. It is. It's always a turkey.

Yeah. The wines. Oh, I can keep the party going with weird horror food. Oh, yay! Okay, so I have a quiz. It's mostly about horror and food and how they overlap. All right. Okay.

Going to some dark corners here. I like it. But there's some whimsical stuff. Okay. Maybe scary children's programming as well. Okay, here you. All right. I like all the girls went the bad direction.

Barnyard buzzers, please. in with the answer? What 1978 comedy horror movie spawned three sequels, two video games and an animated TV series, and features a song Puberty Love? 1978 Comedy Horror

And it has to do with food. Oh, it has to do with food. Or, yeah. Oh, I got it. Oh, go ahead. Is it Attack of the Killer Tomatoes? Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. I've never watched it. What made them

killer? Is it like some radioactive There was somebody, some weird scientist, it might be radioactive. It was, it was a parody of B movies, but it was so... But it was itself, a B movie. It doesn't make a lot of them. Don't look too closely at it. Because at the end of that movie, the carrots strike back after they control the tomato. Oh my God.

I mean, wow. Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, yes. Okay, what short story by Stephen King about a monster called He Who Walks Behind the Rose was the Seed for Eight feature films? was that children of the corn children of the corn a short story and there were eight children of the corn man I knew they made like

three or four I didn't know there were eight of them man Stephen King is making some bank off of doing nothing good ideas what 1966 Charlton Heston movie was based on the novel make room make room about overpopulation of the earth

everybody soy land green is people is people He's who-foo. Yeah, but real. But real. Just who.

Just who. Soil and brain. What 2006 zombie comedy musical is about zombie chickens? And, you know, I'm going to leave it there because it's a pun. The name is a pun, and I know you guys can get there with... Zombie chickens? Zombie chickens. And meat and monsters, that's all I'm going to say about it.

Yeah. Poultry. Poultry geist. Poultry guise. Oh, my God. Yeah. Team effort. Team effort.

Poultry geist. Poultry geist, Night of the Chicken Dead. What's the name of the movie? What's the name of the titular yogurt-like white substance? People eat in the 1985 horror comedy with the tagline, are you eating it or is it eating you? Whoa. 1980.

85. They're eating a wild. White. Yogurt. Yogurt. Creamy. Yeah. Gogert.

Are you eating it or is it eating you? I don't know. It's probably eating them now. The goo? The dip. Oh, you're close. The oos. The stuff.

The stuff. Oh, like Oreo stuff. Oh, yeah. It's white. It's goo. The stuff. The stuff. That's the stuff.

All right. So two, I'd say too scary to me, children's movies or like. a little bit disturbing, both by Roald Doll. Oh, yeah. And Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, who becomes a giant blueberry after eating gum that doubles as everybody. Violet Beauregard.

Violet, you're turning violet, violet. Another Royal Doll book. James and the Giant Peach. Yes. James goes on an adventure inside a giant peach that's inhabited by a variety of large talking invertebrates. Name three of them. There are a number of them, like seven or eight.

A worm? A worm, yes. Miss Spider. Yes. Is it a centipede or a millipede? Yeah. A centipede. Okay. A maggot.

Nay. No. Grasshopper. Yes, grasshopper. Because he plays violin. Right. Ladybug? Yeah, ladybug.

An ant? No, no ants. Man, I suck. Yeah, the earthworm is like blind. Glow worm. Glow worm. Yes, because that's how they light up. A silkworm.

Oh, sure. All right. Why is a silkworm doing on a peach tree? In a peach. He's inside a peach. I mean, he can talk. He can do all sorts of things. Because of the magical crystals or whatever.

Where are all these? That's a really busy peach. There's a lot of bugs. Yeah, in that one peach. It's a parable about overcrowding, really. Peach is insects. Fantasy foods. Good job, you guys.

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I think we should probably just roll right into that. Yeah. Which we've talked about. Which we've talked about. We've talked about Willie Wonka, the fictional Willy Wonka food. I want to talk about some of the. efforts that have been made to bring fictional williwanka candies to us

in real life. So no magic hand fudge. No magic hand fudge which was the one of clearly the best candy out of the Willie Wongca, or excuse me, out of the book Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Because I have like

magic hand fudge. Oh, hot cream for a cold day. Hot ice cream for cold days. And then magic hand fudge. Magic hand fudge. We're not going to tell you what that is. Just, uh, Mr. Dull.

And look it up yourself. The Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory film, the original 1971 film, actually happened because it got financed because Quaker Oats, the food company in general, was looking for a way to introduce a new candy bar. And it just so happened that other people were kind of shopping around the idea of like, well, what if we were to make a movie out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? And so Quaker Oats actually financed that film. What was supposed to happen is they were supposed to put Wanka bars on shelves in time for the movie. But there was a problem in that they were super gross. They just tasted very bad. And so they didn't get them on there.

However, they did put other candies on shelves in the 1970s that were branded with Willie Wonka. At the same time, the movie came out or after a couple years later. But it was all kind of happening at the same time. This is really interesting. So the first two Willy Wonka candies are no longer in production. One of them is called peanut butter umpas. Okay. And they are like, they're like peanut butter M&Ms.

They're chocolate and peanut butter in an M&M type shell. I vaguely remember these, like still being around in like the early ages. They're like wreaths pieces. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And also were they orange or I mean, were they? Green and orange.

Yeah. Yeah, ish. Maybe. And also the Super Scrunch, which was peanut butter and, like, Rice Krispy type things covered in chocolate. So those are the first two, like, real Willy Wonka candies that they actually made. Okay. Now, a few years later, they unveiled the real-life version of Something Out of the Movie, which was the Everlasting Gobstoppers. Yes.

Seventy-6. Definitely. I remember those. So the Everlasting Gobstoppers, they were the MacGuffin of the film. Charlie was going to have a fun time at the Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory. He gets stopped by Mr. Slugworth, who says, steal me one of these things, and I will reward you richly so that I can really stick it to Willy Wonka. And then Charlie, of course, thinks about it, but has a change of heart and leaves it there. He leaves it there and resolves his story arc.

Now, gobstopper, as we've talked about in a previous episode, is a jawbreaker. That is the UK. Oh, the term. gob the gob is your mouth and stops your mouth very popular when Roald Dal was a oh excuse me rule doll as you're talking about was a young boy

the funny thing is the the jawbreakers the gobstoppers that kids would buy they actually would last for a really long time they did they did I remember I would have to do it in stages yeah like set it down and come back to it later so gross right let it collect all the bacteria

yeah crazy things is the Nestle actually has bought out the the Wonka, essentially division that used to belong to Quaker Oates. And I did not know this because I do not eat a lot of candy, you know, these kinds of candies anymore, but so many of the random, like, candies that I remember from my childhood are now Wonka branded when they weren't in the past. So nerds? Yeah.

Wonka brand, Sweet Tarts. Yeah. Oh, I thought nerds were always Wonka. They were not always Wonka. No? No. No. See, that's what they want you to think.

Sweethearts, spree. Remember spree? Yeah. It's a two. Yeah. Those are Wonka branded now. Ready for this one? Pixie sticks.

Are Wonka now? Pixie sticks are Wonka now. So it's all like the fanciful, like non-choccaly, kind of... Brightly colored and things. Sweet-tarts. Sweet-carts are wanka. Yeah, those were not wanker. No, no, no this was.

No. And then I do want to mention this. In the year 2013, scientists discovered a new species of fruit-bearing tree in South Africa. The fruit is about the size and the color of a small orange, but what they found out was that when the chimpanzees would take the fruit and put it into their mouth, and they wouldn't chew it or anything, they would just, like, carry it in their mouth and, like, suck the juice out of it for a while. It took hours for them to fully eat the fruit, and it just takes a really long time.

It stays delicious for hours. And the, what is the reasoning behind this is because the chimp will then carry the fruit for a really long way. By the time he spits out the seeds, he's propagating in a new location. He's spread the tree to a totally new location. And the scientists have officially named it the gobstopper tree because it is like an everlasting gobstop. I want one. I know. Wow, there's no Wikipedia.

Get on that. No, this is a new, this is a discovery of a new species, which is kind of crazy. when you think about it. It's like you figured like we've seen all the trees there are to see. But we haven't. No. No. Still finding them.

15 found a new tree. Yeah. Yeah. More fruit. With a new fruit on it. Yeah. Come with me. So I took a little bit of a detour, fantasy food.

I kind of went into the realm of fake foods. And one of the fake foods we probably, we probably encountered the most, living in California, is imitation crab. I mean, it's in the name. Yeah. Like, I'm not eating it thinking, oh, this is actual crab. Right. Like, you just think of it as another type of product. Yeah, it's its own thing now.

Imitation crab. What is it made out of? Fish? Yep. And pink food dye. Yeah. And starch and addives and almond glue. And crab flavor.

Yeah, and crab flavor. Yeah. Kind of like mashed up fish, gel together. But there are a lot of. of things that you probably don't know that we eat, that is not the real, is not what it's advertised. Or it's

cleverly tricking. Oh, I see what you're saying. So, one thing we did talk about a while ago, I think, is in our luxury foods, episode three, truffle oil. Oh, right. Yes. No truffles. And you blew my mind, Chris. No truffle at all. No truffles. Truffle oil has the

chemical compounds, but it's not like truffle has been like actual. Hasn't been just still down into the... Yeah, yeah, because it's almost impossible to get all of that flavor into, like, spread it into water. They would if they could.

Prohibitive, well, but they would if they could. Right. Yeah. But it's like artificial, it's things that smell like truffles. Yeah. In olive oil. And, you know, when it's too good to be true, it's probably engineered, fake,

which isn't necessarily bad. You get to taste what, you know, the real thing tastes like without spending the money. Wasabi. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, not wasabi. I just, I just, I just fairly recently learned this. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? It's like horseradish and green food coloring. And green food coloring. Yeah. And mustard. Yeah. I mean, you can get real wasabi, but it's expensive and it's so expensive. There's, there's different. It's, it is. Yeah. Okay. That makes so much sense. I was like, man, this is getting milder and milder as I like eat this sushi. Yeah. I'm becoming my. You know why? Because like the real wasabi, it's like you put a teeny, tiny little bit on the sushi and it's like super hot. Slams you. But like, Americans eating. sushi like they use it like like ketchup yeah because it's so weak it's so weak compared to that yeah that makes so much sense i was like man i'm real real wasabi comes from the the wasabi plant it's in the family of like horseradish it's a little like root green and it's kind of gnarly

it's very small it's very expensive and so to eat the the the real actual way is you shave a little bit and a little bit goes a long way what we see today in the packets that's super green yeah At least, it's horse rash and some sort of mayonnaise. Sorry, some sort of mustard. That makes so much sense. And the wasabi, they grate a little bit of it and they put it on the sushi. There's not like a blob of it. Yeah, it's not really common.

Maybe, I mean, I'm sure there are tubes of wasabi that have like a little bit. Yeah, they're real, a little bit, but it's not 100% made out of the plant. Oh, my God. I feel like the blinders are up. I was like, I know, there's so many things, I know, interesting. Okay. Bownless wings, not even chicken wings. What is boneless wings?

Is it just chicken tenders? Yeah. Or chicken breast or just pieces of chicken. Because I think in the American culture, we think, like, wings is associated with that size drenched in sauce. Yeah. Like, that's what we associate wings with. Yeah. Bownless wings is just fried and mixed with sauce.

This is a common one. We probably, most of us know this, is, like, movie theater, popcorn. It's not popcorn? The butter. Oh, oh. Oh, that's not popcorn. What is it? What am I eating?

Yeah, the butter is, I mean, because I would go rancid. You can't, right, it's just like oil, it's mostly oil, right? A lot of people who, you know, butter flavoring. Grew up working in the movie theaters, you know, like when you're pumping the butter, drizzling, it's not real butter. It is butter flavored oil with some yellow dye. Yeah. Which is okay.

It tastes buttery. It tastes good. I was at a local theater, an artisanal kind of movie. theater and they put real butter on the popcorn and it made the popcorn soggy but it was so delicious and it was like oh i see why they don't usually put real butter on it it makes it it was like totally soggy but it was very good it was more like a drink at that point yeah it was like a chunky paste that you find out wow i never thought about that that the oil's different yeah yeah because oil's not i just thought it was because it's cheaper well that that's that's probably also the case

Yeah, but, like, I never thought that... The structural integrity of the popcorn. Yeah, totally, totally. That makes sense. That makes sense. Man, you might see this in your supermarket, and there might be, like, little, you know, they have, like, little bite-sized brownies, a little bite-sized cupcakes, a little bite-sized things. Little bite-sized blueberry muffins.

They're not blueberries? Sometimes they are not blueberry. What are they? Fake berries. They are just blue-purple-colored stuff. Oh, my God. Like little dots No

That makes sense I still feel betrayed But that makes sense I have to say They're really not berries I know And also blueberries Blueberries are huge

Yeah Yeah you're right Like a whole blueberry In one of those little mini muffins If you had two of them In that blueberry muffin A little bit They could chop a weapon

A little pieces or something No No No yeah you can't Because like you can't Like a syringe And just inject Drop of purple

I assume I assume in the raw form in the pre-baked form it's probably like a like a pellet like a chocolate chip I bet you're right it just disperses into the muffin

because when you put real blueberries in a muffin like you open it and like the blueberry breaks while cooking so you have like this weird gray stuff that's spreading and this is like so neat in these little muffins well it's like when you

go to like if you go to like wall greens or something and see the packets packages of cookies they have with like a dollar and they're just like chocolatey chipperinos you know there's no chocolatey yeah chocolatey yeah they can't say chocolate chip that i mean that's another thing too that's kind of separates uh uh uh uk chocolate uh with a american quote chocolate yeah right UK or real chocolate yeah most of our chocolate is made with soybean you can't call it milk chocolate when it doesn't have you know X amount of of cocoa butter or cocoa fat and so they

have to say like chocolate candy or you know they can't say it's just chocolate yeah which is okay some of the candies growing up that you it makes sense why we all hated them is because they did not have dairy there are some of the first who have all vegetable oil uh mr goodbar oh yeah no one likes mr good bar first thing to be made with that was one of the One of the first things you made with no actual chocolate. A lot of the coating, just the coatings that are so coated. It's kind of waxy. Speaking of which.

What is this? And I'm going to end my segment conveniently with this package addressed to us from England. And it is filled with actual English sweets as they call. They don't say candy. Well, I mean they say candy, but usually they're. They call them sweeties or lollies. We got some smarties do we have? What have we got in there?

Jelly toots or tots? Jelly tots. Jelly tots. Harm of violets. Ooh, little violet candies. Those are old school. Yeah. Yeah, these are definitely picked out the weird ones for sure.

I'm going to have a violet candy. Jelly tots. Blackjack. Anna seed flavored shoes. Great. Whoa. More licorice for us. This tastes like sucking on a flower.

Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. All right, I'm correct. Like a Like a decorative bathroom soap Oh my goodness, it does Like an old lady's living room Yeah

Yeah It's like eating a scented candle So all of these Whoa my breath just got so flowery It's kind of like a scratch It's like eating a scratch and sniff sticker Yeah All of these treats

And also this If Chris you can open it out for me I know what it is But all this stop is from Rebecca From the UK Oh thank you Thanks Rebecca Where real chocolate comes from

So sweet She didn't send it us in your chocolate. And this is an official, it's an official Disney store pin from London. Yes. And she wrote us in this card as one of those, quote, crazy pin people. Oh, yeah. I just wanted to say a big thank you for episode 149. You managed to make us sound not too crazy. Rebecca is a pin trader. And it seems like there's a lot of pin traders all over the world, including England. We know about obsessive behaviors. Yeah, we got it. And then so she sent us all these sweets. Thanks so much. That's so sweet.

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All right. So Star Wars, you know, we see Aunt Baru pouring the blue milk. What's the blue milk? Where does it come from? Bantha. It does. It comes from the Bantha. Happy blue cows.

Yes. Yes. Karen, you are right on it. It's Bantha milk. It's Bantha milk in the Star Wars universe. Yeah, which in the banshas are the big creatures that the Tuscan Raiders ride. But I'm not here to talk about blue milk. I want to get back into proper fantasy foods.

Karen, when we chose the topic, my mind quickly went to Alice in Wonderland. Oh. Oh, that's awesome. I was just thinking maybe Lord of the Rings because they eat the elven brimbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, not limp biscuit. But no, like, I was thinking, okay, this will be an easy one. Alice in Wonderland, it's full of food, it's full of fantasy.

I can find some fantasy food to talk about. And I always loved Alice in Wonderland as a kid, too. Oh, yeah. Imaginative. Oh, yeah. I mean, and one of those things that, like, you appreciate a lot more as an adult. You're like, oh, I didn't get this reference at all as a kid. Really?

I think a lot of the stuff. I mean, he's got, you know, random math jokes and things tucked in, you know. Louis Carroll was a, he was a strange guy, anywhere to say. But as it turns out, I fell down a different rabbit hole, if you will, yes, with a slightly different twist. Yeah. That's the easy. I hate you. I want to talk about a fantasy animal.

connected to a real food. Okay. Connected to an imitation food. Oh. Oh, I know. I think I know what it is. I bet you guys probably do. Oh.

Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. During Alice's adventures in the book. Wait, can we write down our answers? Oh, sure.

Wow. And then we'll... All right. Talking about an... This is an impromptu quiz. This is an animal that we encounter during Alice's adventures. Yes. one of the characters

answers up the mock turtle yeah someone talk about the mock turtle now can I tell you one quick thing that was so weird I was Googling for for some quiz and it was I was like how many meats I was going to ask how many meats were on something and it was like how many

meats are on a turtle it was like a list of questions about how many meets that's what Google thought I was going to ask and I don't know why and you're like okay who's been sorry I was like, I've never asked you anything like this, Google.

Why do you think I care about how many meats are on a turtle's body? Anyway, there you. How many meats are in a turtle body? I almost followed it. And then I was like, I don't want to give Google the wrong idea. Oh my God, it's the number one thing. For what? In auto company, how many meats in a turtle?

Well, let's, we'll get here. We'll get there. We'll get there. I may be able to give you some idea. In case you don't remember, yes. In the book, shortly after playing some croquet, Alice and the queen are walking off. And the queen says, and I'm quoting here from the book, then the queen left off quite out of breath and said to Alice, have you seen the mock turtle yet? No, said Alice.

I don't even know what a mock turtle is. It's the thing mock turtle soup is made from, said the queen. And, you know, like as a kid, that was a sufficiently silly, absurd answer. Yeah, duh. Yeah, duh. And, you know, as I got older, I think. I did sort of learn. I knew vaguely that mock turtle soup was

a real thing in the same way that like, you know, like mock apple pie. Right, right, right. Right. Or other mock apple pie. What's mock apple pie? Salteens. Or Ritz crackers. Yeah. Cracker. Cracker pie. With pectin. No, no, no.

What? The saltie. The cracker is the apple meat. Get out of here. Yes, mock apple pie. With saltines and like sugar. It's, yeah, after it. dredges, it has a texture that's similar to like the baked apples

in the house pot. Yep. It's it's, it's, it's a flavor fooler. Yeah. Um, texture. Ooh, flavor fulery. Yeah. So, so, so, okay, so mock turtle soup was a thing which, uh, you could have real turtle soup. That turtle soup was a thing. Right. So turtle soup wasn't just a thing.

Turtle soup was hugely, hugely popular in its day. Yes. Yes. And I mean, uh, as early as the 1700s even, like in colonial times in America, turtle soup was a big thing. It was a big thing in England. It was a big thing because it was a delicacy. It started as sort of an upper crust kind of dish and sort of trickled down to the masses, got more and more and more popular. Now, so, and there's two things to keep in mind. Making turtle soup sounds like it was a pain in the butt. Because just imagine cleaning a turtle. You know what I mean? Like dressing, like you got to get through the shell. You got to

clean it up, cut it up, I learned apparently that there were many types of meats on a turtle Wow! It was many types of meats to make turtle of. And as it got more and more popular, people are like, you know what, we can find a substitute here for mock turtle soup, a little bit cheaper, a little bit easier to make. So it's like wasabi. Yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah. But they weren't hiding the fact, you know, they weren't presenting, here's your turtle soup, but it was actually made with something else. They're like, mock turtle soup commonly would be made with, like, sweetbreads or random parts of a calf. You know, anything from the brains to cows' feet, you know, it was kind of a, yes, yeah, it was sort of a catch-all. Turtle soup, incredibly popular.

It was said to be President William Taft's favorite food, his favorite food, turtle soup. This was a case where the imitation, kind of like maple syrup, the way that a lot of people prefer the imitation maple syrup, a lot of people started to, get they loved mock turtle soup and you would go into a diner and it would say proud of the menu hey mock turtle soup uh by the 1920s campbell soup had a mock turtle soup yes yes it was this was how popular was you don't need to look it up karen because i'm going to show you an ad this is an ad and i have to say i like the direction they're going here this is from uh 1928 this is an ad for campbell's mock turtle soup mock turtle soup you'll like its unusual flavor Holy cow.

It's a little kid. It's the little kid. It's the little Campbell's kid riding a turtle. Yeah. Wow. Of course she kills it. Campbell's mock turtle soup. Yeah. Man, how quickly it fell out of favor from going from like one of the Campbell's soup flavors to you suggest I eat what?

Yes. Yeah. Hines mock turtle soup. I mean, if you were in the business of making soups, you would have a mock turtle soup flavor. It faded pretty rapidly. I have to say over the next few decades. Yeah. They do not still make mock turtle soup.

Campbell's here available. I want to read to you some of the florid prose here from an ad that I found for Campbell's mock turtle soup. Mock Turtle! A soup famous for its own individual and delicious flavor. A soup which has helped many a smart cafe and fashionable hotel dining room the world over to attract its distinguished patronage. the eyes of the trained soup chef will sparkle at the very mention of mock turtle soup for to him it is an opportunity

the coveted chance to display all the fine touches of his art What is it? Now I want to eat it. Where can we go to eat mock turtle soup? Of course it's probably all a bunch of random stuff. If you're making the traditional mock turtle soup I look at there's a traditional fake soup. The traditional mackerel soup will be calf sweetbreads, basically. But as it's a creamy, is a broth-based? It's very brothy.

There are some recipes you'll find today that just use straight beef even. It looks kind of like a beef stew. Alice goes and she meets the Griffin and the Mock Turtle in short succession. And she's supposed to go hear the Mock Turtle's sad story. Oh, right, right. And, you know, the sad story of the Mock Turtle, as it turns out, is that he used to be a real turtle, and now he's a Mock Turtle. That's really clever. It is clever.

I have here a picture. This is, these are the very famous illustrations by John Teneal. Oh my God, this makes so much sense now. The very famous, yes, why he's a calf. It makes so much sense. If you look at the picture of the mock turtle, he's got a turtle shell and a turtle body and turtle flippers, but he's got the head of a calf, the feet and the tail of a cow and a calf. And so this is, again, the very sort of cheeky idea that you're ordering a mock turtle soup,

and this is why you're getting cow parts because this is the animal that mock turtle soup is made out of. Wow, that's clip. Wow. Woosh! Over my head as a kid.

Yeah, please do. This was all over my head as a kid. This is way too much subtext. Yeah. I know. Wow. Yeah, I mean, so, Dana, I mean, as you hinted at,

the popularity really, uh, pooh! In the last few decades. It's kind of thing that you would make it home mostly these days. And to be honest, like conservation efforts, among turtle populations have really like it's it's not just is it hard and cumbersome but it's it's

really destructive to the turtle ecosystem um so there are you know a lot of laws that you would have to break in parts of the world to make every kind of turtle soup uh you can still get it you can still get it you can still find turtle soup uh in many places around the globe but there is no mock turtle actually giving up its life to make mock turtle suit it's a cow yeah I had no idea that it was that popular. I just envisioned it in my mind as being like green. Yeah, like little shells. I would imagine it being served in a shell.

Yeah. Yeah, just as my kid imagination. I'm just imagining the shredder telling the Ninja Turtles that he's going to make him into turtle soup, you know? Oh. And then it's mock turtle soup. But then it turns out to mock turtle soup. They all laugh and eat pizza. Right.

There's the episode. Wow. It's the episode. Yeah. cool all right well that's our show on fantasy foods thank you guys for joining me and thank you guys listeners for listening in hope you learn a lot of stuff about horror fantasy food harry potter food uh what you've been eating that you think is wasabi is actually not wasabi oh my god uh turtle soup and more you can find us on iTunes on Stitcher on SoundCloud and on our website Spotify and on our website good job brain doc and whoa so i'm googling mock turtle soup turns out in the some of the concept art for alice and wonderland the movie the disney movie they did have a character of griffin and the turtle but it just never made it it's funny yeah the the the the mock turtle character has

never really made it into a lot of the adaptations it's so cute yeah it's like disturbing a bit disturbed because it's a sad animal that's all mixed up and you're like what is it sad and it's like, I'm not a real turtle, and you're like, I don't know how to help you. Like, I'm like, this is not a solvable problem. Wow. That's a lot of the people that Alice sort of encounters in Alice in one. He's like, okay, that's, okay, bye. Okay, bye, yeah, yeah.

That is, that is Alice in Mornland. Oh, hey, oh, cool. Bye. But nobody's crying except for that one. And so you're just like, oh, should I do something to help? He's very weepy. He's very weepy and downtrodden. Oh, the oysters were really.

Oh, yeah, yeah, but, but, oysters all die right right and they eat them all that one was sad too yeah oh okay anyways oh yeah so we'll see you guys sorry you're cool you can go look for it it's cool cool concept art uh it's very very cute it's wearing like a little donald duck hat a sailor hat uh all right well that's our show we'll see you guys next week bye bye you're so cute Have you ever wondered how inbred the Habsburgs really were, what women in the past used for birth control, or what Queen Victoria's nine children got up to? On the History Tea Time podcast, I profile remarkable queens and LGBTQ plus royals explore royal family trees and delve into women's medical history and other fascinating topics. Join me every Tuesday for History Tea Time, wherever fine podcasts are enjoyed.