Good Job, Brain! - 162: New Slang

Episode Date: October 2, 2015

Humans say the weirdest things, and we take a roller coaster dive into finding out the origins of slang words and how some of them evolved into everyday use: the first "people's dictionary," The New York Times' unintentionally hilarious slang clarifications, and Karen theorizes how "BAE" came to be, and notices how many sayings came from making typos. Don't hit a fourbagger into the five-hole when taking Colin's colorful sport slang quiz, and the weird and morbid story behind "drinking the Kool-Aid." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, lavishly luscious, lemony listeners. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and Offby Trivia podcast. This is episode 162, and I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your irrefutably irreplaceable, irresistible, irregulars, irradiating, iridescence, and feeling ire, eerie, I'm Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm Chris. You've had a lot of stevia gingerail, Karen. Are you sure you're going to be okay? Just three. Just three. I won. Game number three. Oh, man. Finally, all four of us are back. We had a bit of traveling combined. Colin, you and I were both in

Utah but different parts of Utah. Yeah, we had the trips planned totally separately. I was doing some desert hiking and you were running a marathon. Did you have Utah's finest fry sauce? What? They're famous for fry sauce. So I was looking at like what is a, someone's special like Utah only food. Yeah. We know Jello is a big Utah. But you can get Jolla. That's not Utah only. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. Fry sauce. What's fry sauce? Is it mayonnaise and ketchup? It is plus other stuff. Oh, okay. All right. Some spices. It doesn't taste directly like I just mixed up ketchup and mayonnaise.

Which is not bad. Not bad. It's actually pretty good. Is it spicy? It is a little bit spicy, a little bit sweet. That's cool. That's cool. I want some.

I didn't have any fries sauce. But you were camping. I was camping. This is interesting. I was traveling around Zion Canyon National Park and Bryce Canyon National Park. Did you poop in a bag or whatever it is you do when you're camping? You know, that's between me and Zion Canyon and Bryce National Canyon. Oh, that's funny because you taught us you have to everything.

I was a responsible. responsible pooper in the woods. Oh, man. I wasn't imagining I would talk about this, but, uh, yes, I dug a hole and I took care of things in a responsible manner and packed out what I was supposed to pack out and left who I was supposed to leave. Thank you. Thank you.

Did you see any animals? I saw a rattlesnake up close and personal for the first time. Far, far more up close and personal. Yeah. I mean, I was, you know, Chris, as far away as I am from you, is eight feet maybe from this rattlesnake. And, I mean, it saw me before I saw it. shook its little rattle and I you know stopped in my tracks and backed up and is that what you're supposed to do you're bang two sticks together

that was the one pile of curf you left go right now get out of here you shoot yeah uh no you give them their space basically yeah so we gave the snake his space and we let him crawl off the trail and then we continued on our way did you feel weird for the rest of the trip after that knowing that there were rattlesnakes you know honestly for the first day i did for the first day and then you kind of just get back nature and you Mind yourself that it's actually extremely rare to run across them. They don't want to tango with you. Well, now that we're all back, let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz. Hot shot.

And here I have a random trivia pursuit card from our megabox, and this is from Genus 4, and it is dated. Okay. I mean, this is an old card. I'm just scanning through these questions. I'm not sure if they're still true. All right. But best of luck You guys have your barnyard buzzers

And let's buzzing for the first question Blue Edge for people and places What Asian nation is the world's largest importer of oil Chris Siam I don't know how old is it yet Largest importer Largest importer of oil

China Incorrect According to this card How about this? How about Japan? It is Japan According to this They got lots of money Not a lot of oil

They're resource poor They got it You know They got a fish You got to make those video games Out of something Fish as I understand Yeah

Yeah From what I've read Yeah Pink Wedge for Arts and Entertainment What Irish New Age Artist Was born I think we don't need everybody

Enya Enya Oh is it Well it's Enya But it's spelled E-I-T-H-N-E Right Eni-N-E-Brennan Yeah

But her name in Gaelic is pronounced Enya but it's spelled F-Ith Oh my God If I were to just pronounce it the way it's spelled Ithene Eithene Yeah right

Right Ethene Ne Breonai Right Which is Brennan Gaelic. It has real simple pronunciations, and then they add like five extra letters that don't need to be there. All right. Yellow Wedge for history. Oh, man. This card with all the pronounceations.

So actually, wait, this is hilarious. They actually printed that on a Trivial Pursuit card, so people have to read their name in Gaelic. Maybe they didn't know how it was really pronounced in Gaelic, because it's a bad question. Actually, it is a really bad thing. Yeah, you're right. If you don't happen to have an Enya family, at the table with you. Right. No, wait. You guys, what Irish new age pop star? Yeah, right.

Yeah, yeah, true, right. If you know how to pronounce Gaelic, yeah, that's true. All right, okay, more pronunciation fun. What Vietnamese president was named Nguyen Singh Kong and when I quack before settling on a name that meant, quote, he who enlightens a Colin. Uh, ho Chi men. Correct. I think you could have stopped, yeah.

It's just like the, what Irish new age artist, what Vietnamese president? Yeah, that's the only, yeah, kind of just stop there. I didn't know that was an adopted name. He who, what? What was it? He who? He who Enlightenment. Okay.

If you're going to take on a good name, yeah. Yes. Brownish but purplish because of sun damage wedge, wedge us for science and nature. What point and click PC software system had sold 60 million copies by 1994 in the next. in the 19 years. Chris. Windows. It is Windows.

I could have stopped at what point and click PC software system. Yeah. These questions. All right. Green Wedge for Sports and Leisure. What Major League Baseball team did the Walt Disney Company assume operational control of in 1996? Control of in 1996. Everybody.

The Angels. Yes. What is the place? The blank. Angels. Anahe? Oh, but see, at the time they bought it, oh, it's so contentious. Like now there's a good trivia question.

Yeah. When they bought them, I'm going to say they were the Los Angeles Angels and they changed it to Anaheim Angels when they bought them. Were there other names? They've been the LA Angels. They've been the Anaheim angels. I believe now they're, it's like, they're the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. It's something really, it's something really tortured right now.

On the card is the California. Oh, that must be before. And I completely forgot one. What was the movie? Angels in the Outfield. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was a Disney movie, I believe, right? They filmed it at the Oakland Coliseum.

Oh, really? Yeah. Not at the Angel Stadium? I was in the stadium for one of the scenes. You're an extra? Yeah, it was an extra in that movie. How do we not know this? I know.

This was a really good piece of trivia. We should have known. I mean, you can't see me. There were thousands of people. Right, right, yeah. Yeah, I'll write it on my IMDB page. for credit that's awesome

all right last question wild card orange wedge what's the official color of IBM oh everybody blue correct yeah

awesome well good job brains listener uh sherelle williams maybe related to furrel williams probably not uh shirall williams wrote in very enthusiastic and she is all about slings and and so she has this message for us.

Hey, Bay, where you had it to? So listen, did you see my girl yesterday at the concert? Didn't she slay? What? I'm only 34 years old, but I get lost sometimes with all of the slang use. I'm hip to some of the meanings, although I tend not to use them, but some of them I'm like, Where and who do these words come from? And what exactly do they mean? I find it interesting to hear that the word swag can be traced all the way back to William Shakespeare, who apparently invented the word swag. Do you have any interesting slang that has you clueless that you like to share? So today's episode is about slang, not just now, but the history of slay.

That's right. So grab your bay, because this episode is. going to be on flea. As you guys know, I've talked in the past how I love the corrections section in the New York Times. It's so nerdy, but it's just, it feels me with such glee, imagining the person having to type out the correction, the person who sent in the letter. partly because the New York Times is just I mean we all know the image of the New York Times is just kind of just stay it and you're like this is just the rock of American journalism so I've got something that's related to that delight I get from the corrections and this was inspired by an article that appeared in the Atlantic magazine last year this was by co-authored by Megan Garber Adrian LaFrance and Ian Bogost who know that guy I believe you do know he's a teacher writer video game designer. Professor at Georgia Tech

and writes a lot about video games. Makes a lot of video games. Yeah. Yeah. He made cow clicker? Yeah. Oh, cool.

So this article was called The Ev... You're not supposed to like it. This article was called The Evolution of Slang. And it was inspired by them reading an article in New York Times about implementing a $25 penalty

for pot possession in D.C. Okay? And so in the article, they quoted a person saying, a ticket when you just have a J or something using a slang term for a marijuana cigarette. And this is the humor right there

is the New York Times feel compelled to explain, and not just to explain, but they say a marijuana cigarette. It's like, Dad, get out of my room. So what they did is they went through the New York Times archives and pulled out every instance in the New York Times going all the way back to the 1800s of

them clarifying, this is a slang term for X. Wow. So I pulled out a few of the examples here. What was the first one? The earliest one that they had in their article was 1855. Oh my goodness. Yeah, 1855. Most of these words we still use as slang.

Some of them we don't. So, like, here's one just very simple example, from 1910, talking about chump. And it has to clarify in the article, a chump is slang for a sucker. What is sucker Some of the terms have dropped away though This is from 1926 When you could use the word vaudevild To mean cut

All right So this is an article I had just had my tonsils vaude What? Yes, yes Yes And the New York Times has to clarify for the reader That this is vaudeville

Is slang for cut I vaudevilled my finger I vaudeville my finger It's like You dressed it up in a little hat and made a dancer. Yeah, because you think of Vodville as the actual show, you know, variety show in a theater. I don't, I understand like some acts, like Vodville acts get cut in an interest of time. Yeah.

But that's not the first thing I think of. From 1981, 1981, okay, she told Mr. Klein that she drank and smoked and said, every now and then I smoke a little weed, a slang term for marijuana. Wow. Right. It has to come from somewhere. It has to come from somewhere. And I guess even as late as 1981, some readers of the New York Times.

I did not know. You could smoke. Dandy lights. From 1994, what you basically have here is an officer who felt dissed because a football hit his car, she concluded, using a slang term for a perceived act of disrespect. Sure. Nice when they can work in the English word that the slothel. slang was derived from which which makes you feel like you're learning something

disrespected right yeah yeah yeah hearing don't tell me Karen no you know what she didn't live in the U.S. in the 80s yeah okay all right she wasn't reading the New York Times in 1981 you know when you disrespected when you you guys all knew this yes yeah yes I thought it was like dislike like no I don't know disrespectful oh okay the reason why this was really funny was because it was like this is like weird slang from when we were kids like yeah also that's so that's like a contraction of

yeah and they had to explain that they had to explain what dist means right I don't know why marijuana keeps popping up there's an interview with there's a lot of slang yeah they're interviewing one of the members of the Doobie brothers at 18 Mr. Hartman was the drummer for the band which took the Doobie in its name

from a slang word for a marijuana cigarette We're back to marijuana cigarette I feel like between the lines in some of these, there's a little bit of side-eye from the writers. This is from an article in 2010 about Hooters. Okay, the chain of... All right. Buckle up. Yes.

Chain of restaurants that serves wings with lady waitresses. Who wear shorts. Who wear short shorts. Yeah. The chain acknowledges that many consider Hooters a slang term for a portion of the female anatomy. Which portion? Yeah. That's not...

What? You don't sit? Yeah, we don't intend that, but we acknowledge that some of our patrons do. But why does New York Times have to, like, a part of a woman's body? Okay, what part? Yeah, exactly. If we're going to go there, let's talk about. Yeah, let's just say what it is. We can't say boobs in the pages of the New York Times.

No, it's a respectable newspaper. Yeah. Be like melons, but that's fine. Right. Slaying for melons. But I think Hooters was trying to reinvent itself as like a family restaurant. They were. And so maybe that's why they're like, no, it's owls.

We really like owls. They do have owls on their signage. And then some of them go a little further beyond than maybe you thought was necessary. This is talking about dork from 2001. The juvenile insult, dork, is from a slang term for the penis. As are the Yiddish-deron terms, schmuck and putts. Now we're just listing more.

More penis words. They're like, well, now that you've given the opportunity, I'm so glad you asked. My favorite one, though, just to close out here, my favorite one is both a New York Times correction and a New York Times slang update. Oh, so they have to correct their own slang? Yes, yes, yes. This is from 2009. The Big City column on Saturday about Sandra Fleming, a social worker who visits her clients by motorcycle, misstated a slang term for a high-performance sport motorcycle.

It is crotch rocket, not crash rocket. Both work. Yes, they both. And you can see, it's almost like an egg corn. Sure, yeah, yeah. So thank you to the Atlantic and the New York Times for keeping us enlightened as a nation on dissing props and marijuana cigarettes and marijuana cigarettes. So in a similar vein to, um, The New York Times, academics have been chronicling slang for hundreds of years and explaining

it, maybe passing judgment on it. Maybe. I mean, actually, yeah, 100% passing judgment on it. I found the dictionary of the English language written in 1555 by Samuel Johnson. And this was a very important dictionary. It wasn't the first dictionary. It wasn't the dictionary with the most number of words. But it was the first dictionary where it recorded a faithful record of the language people

used at that time and that was that was the first time anyone had nobody nobody was going in making uh like you know value judgments on like well you shouldn't say this word so it's not in the dictionary they were mostly and they were mostly just like kind of collections of the hardest words like the most obscure words and he was like oh here's interesting and he was a little bit editorial like he wouldn't include some words that he didn't think were worth keeping right and some words who was very quick to dismiss he also cited the sources he got him from so he was like oh this was in shakespeare This was in a different poet. I didn't make it up.

He was very quick to pass judgment, and it's funny. It's on Google books, if you want to read it. It feels like a literature book, almost. This hilarious old dude you can talk to, and he's very snarky about everything. He didn't call anything slang. He called it can't. And to him, can't, C-A-N-T, is, let me get the exact quote, because it's, this is the tone that he strikes with this stuff. A can't is a corrupt dialect used by beggars and vans.

Agabonds. Awesome. He'd say stuff like, oh, yeah, that's the can't of children. That's a can't of women. Oh, I see. Yeah. These subgroups who don't have the full proper English. Would you say this to one of your social betters?

No. And he sounds like he would be very fancy in real life and maybe like very pretentious, but he doesn't sound like he was. He actually hung out with people who use these words. He just didn't feel like they were worthy of recording in the dictionary or worthy of praise. What's funny is since 1755, some of these words, that he said were can't or very low words, are words that we totally use. No one would think that they are slang at all.

He was wrong about whether or not they would last the test of time. That's true, because slang is not just jargon or lingo. Slang is like informalizing a word. It's not just a substitute. It is like a more casual substitute. So I have a kind of a short quiz for you guys. The dictionary, by the way, is hilarious. Lots of good reading.

I'm going to have to finish looking through it later, but I did pull out some words from it. It's a mix of words that are can't and words that are not can't. And I'm curious what you guys think. Do you think in 1755 this was what the street people were saying? All right. First word, a fib. A fib.

A fib. A fib. A lie. A little lie. It's not one giant word, a fib. I'll say can't. I'll say can't. I'll say can't.

Not can't. It's a can't word for children That's what he said He wrote that in his dictionary Which it almost still is Yeah, it is, it is What kid says fib? Oh, like in the

But it's more like When you're an adult It's like, oh, you're a liar, you're lying Right But for kids, it's like, oh, I just fibbed You know, I'm just fibbing I'm just fibbing Fibbing

You know how it is What about the word fun? Fun Fun variant of that be. I'm going to say, I'm going to say not can't. I'm going to say fun is fun. I'm going to say can't.

I'm going to say can't. It's a can't. He said it was a can't. That that was not a thing that people talked about is a low word. Interesting. So what would they say? They did not have fun. It was a hard life. I don't know what they said.

I mean, yeah, it is. Enjoyment, games of merriment and pleasure. Yes, merriment. Meramance. Merement. Leisure. Yeah. Flirtation.

I will say, not can't. I'll say not can't. I'll say not can't. I'll say can't, just to mix it up. It's a can't word among women. What? Among women. Okay.

But still with the... He's super snarky. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Whatever. So, so does that mean only women say it to women? Right.

You're getting out, is the distinction, the word itself or the activity that the damage. Yeah, exactly. Cultural. I mean, I think that they're tied up. They're not. Only women will gossip about. They're not totally separate. He's recorded it, and now he's the voice of record for this time, so this is like...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about a job? J-O-B, like work. Okay, all right, can't, because, you know, would otherwise be occupation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to say not can't, and I'm going to, in my own head, justify it that I think some of these definitions may have slightly changed over time, too. So I'm going to say can't. Okay.

But that maybe it meant something different. Can't. I'm going with can't. It is not can't. Oh. But it is low. And it describes low work. Okay.

But it is not can't. Oh, got it. Um, what about laudanum? Oh. Lodinum? Like the chemical? Yeah. Yeah.

Hmm. Not can't. Hmm. That sounds so scientifically. It does sound scientificy. Also, it's so not sure. I'll say not can't for the same reason. Laudanum.

Yeah. Yeah, I'll say can't, just to be contrarian. He wrote, it's a can't word. Man, that's a long, complicated can. Well, it's not like, so it's just like vulgar used by base people. It's not a proper word, not a polite society kind of term. But again, how much of that is because it's people using it recreationally and he doesn't. That's true, yeah.

Tiny. Oh, geez. Oh, tiny. I'll say can't. Not can't. I feel like this is shaking. Can't. His can't.

He said it was an Irish word. He's also like a weird, a little bit. Yeah. A little bit, yeah. I mean, he's of the time, whatever. How about gibber? Oh, can't. Jibber?

Mm-hmm. Not can't. I'll say not can't. Oh, my God. It sounds so slang. I know. It came from Shakespeare, and so he said it wasn't can't. But gibberish is can't.

Oh. Yeah. So what does jibber mean? Uh, to speak inarticurately. You know, you know, to produce at that, just like what I said, yeah, just like, inarticulately. Um, how about magazine? Get out. Magazine.

Magazine. Magazine. I mean. Do you guys ever think it's weird that in French a store is called magazine? I do think it's weird. Man, I'm, I know that when magazines came out, it was a pretty bourgeois thing. I'm going to say not can't. Not can't.

Can't. It is not can't. It's a miscellaneous pamphlet. Oh, wow, great. His definitions are very highfalutin. I feel like in 1755, anything that was printed is going to, is, yeah, true. He wrote for a magazine, so he was okay with it. Of course.

Yeah. How about to volunteer, as in to volunteer for the Army? Whoa. Volunteer, volunteer. Like racketeer steer volunteer. I'll say, not can't. Not can't. Not can't.

The tier seems. so formal. What about a Mousketeer? So this is weird. Voluntary was fine. A volunteer is fine, but to volunteer is can't. Oh, okay. Because it's not, because it was like short for like you're volunteering for the army.

Right, right. My finger got vaudeville. Yeah, exactly. My finger got volunteered for the army. Yeah. So it's like, oh, God. That follows a pattern, I think, with a lot of devices. Slaying where it becomes a noun as verb.

Not to call someone on the telephone, but to phone them. Right, right, right. So when was that dictionary you were reading? The 1755. It took them nine years. He wrote it by himself. Well, he didn't have any thoughts. I know.

That's how you write a dictionary. They said it was like one of the most impressive works of art or literature or anyone. And it was a big inspiration on like Noah Webster and stuff too, right? Oh my gosh, yeah. For everybody. It was the like the definitive dictionary until the OED came. What were the dictionaries before? And it's full of weird snarky stories about things that people.

do or say. They would just have like spelling lists and things like that before. They didn't really have dictionaries. They wouldn't really guess where the words came from. They would only put really hard words. They wouldn't put any common words that people used. Oh, I see. So he was commissioned to write something that people felt like would capture

words that people use. The word migrating is weird because, like, I think it was just recently. I realized there are so many slang words or words I use that are a result of typos. Huh, like what? Like, I always say Z-O-M-G. Like, I always type out Zong. And then why am I typing this? And it's people type this all the time because it's result of a typo and people just start catching on.

Yeah. Because Z is close to shift, the shift key. And then, like, people who say, this is Tay suck, which is a typo. Right, right, right. Or own is P-W-N is also a typo. And I was like, why are there so many typos slings that I just, like, don't realize that I'm using. That's a good example. Yeah.

It's so weird. It's so weird that now that's a new way of slings to be introduced is through typos. This whole, like, nationwide panic about, why are we using Bay? What is it mean? Why can't we just say Babe or baby? Bay, B.A.E. Right. Is like, you're significant other, your baby, something you think is cool.

I thought it was about Beyond. for a long time. B-E-Y. Yeah. I was like, oh, everyone loves Bay, like, okay. Bay-Yonse. Yeah, Bay. I thought they were being very casual with her name.

Well, so became popular because it was in a Farrell Williams song. Come and get it, Bay. B-A-E. But it got me thinking. I was like, this may be one of these typo slings. I think it might be like, you know how. Oh, I see. People just take out letters from what.

Because there's just too much going on with the lips and teeth. We just got to, so it goes from baby to babe to bay to eventually we'll be calling us there. I don't know. I think it'd be cool if it were a text typo origin. It would be. That would be cool. But we don't know. I mean, well, some people have acronyms beyond anything else.

So this person is of importance beyond anything else. No. You know what? So, you know what, Regina, my wife just had this experience for the first time in Japan. and that I had always known that this happens, but she came up with me and she was telling me about this story. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know that there's a phrase that Japanese, like, store clerks say

when somebody comes into the store, right? Like somebody comes... Itadakimasa. It's when you're... Yerashimase. Yeah, exactly. And it's, you know, sort of like untranslatable. Can you say properly?

Absolutely. Yerashimease. Okay. So that's... It's like five syllables. Okay. Yeah. More because Japanese, but yes.

You had a small store Every time somebody would come in You would say it just to them But in the big The way that they work it For like the big department stores in Japan Is that like The store clerks are just saying

Irashai Masay Constantly Throughout their eight hour shift Because people are coming in and out So they're not necessarily saying it to you They're just saying it It's like a blanket It's a blanket

It'shae Masay Now imagine having to say the same word for eight hours a day for your whole life. It's just going to become very automatic. And what you're probably going to do is you're probably going to start elighting some of the syllables. You're probably not going to start pronouncing some things. And like a lot of people do is you won't really start to say the beginning of the word. Like as you start thinking it before your mouth starts making the sound and then you only vocalize the end of it.

You know, the way that we might be like, hey, I was going. Yeah, it's gone. Sup, sup, sup, exactly. So sometimes it's like, Shiamase, you know, and you don't really hear the beginning of it. And then some people are just sort of like, maset. And then you really get people who, by the end of their tenure,

working at these stores, they're literally just standing in the store all day going, eh. And this is true, Regina was just like, I didn't know what was going on. And then I realized he was saying, but he was only saying eh eh

poor guy there was a guy way back in the day when we lived there there was one certain store that we would go to with one certain clerk who had a really nasally voice his voice was very very high and nasally and he just did

the a like he just did the last syllable of the word so you'd be shopping and he worked on the video game floor so we'd be up there for like oh you know half an hour like looking through video games. Every minute you would just hear, you would hear this.

This is the closest approximation I can do. That's like a moose meeting. It's like, yes. It's like when you have the little farm, when you had a little farm set in the barn when you were a kid and you're like open the door

and a spring would go off and it was supposed to represent that, um. Yep. Yep. I can still hear it clear as day in my head. Babe is too hard to say. Babe is too hard to say.

Baby is too hard to say. You obey. You obey. Oh, babe. I think, I guess, I don't know, yeah. I don't pretend to know where that, yeah. When you're a forward thinker, you don't just bring your A game, you bring your AI game. Workday is the AI platform that transforms the way you manage your people, money, and agents, so you can transform tomorrow.

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That's right, slang of the 60s. A quiz about slang words from the 60s. The trick is that I'm going to give you some 60s slang, and you have to tell me if it is from the 1960s or the 1860s. Which 60s will it be? Wow, that's smart. All right. We'll see.

Actually, can anybody guess why I was able to find a list of slang from the 1860s? There's the book. What? There's a book of it. Civil War reenactment websites have a lot of the game. They go deep. Because they want to be in characters. They want to be in characters.

And to qualify and to prevent any un-actualies. This is what I'm asking for. Did this word appear on a list of 1960 slang that I found on PBS.org? or did it appear on a list of 1860 slang that I found in a military history site? All right. Okay. All right. What this means is, is this a slang word that, you know, would have only really come into common

use around the 1960s and thus, you know, the Civil War came before this word? Right. Or is this something that people would have used in the 1860s as well? So here we go. I will give you the word. Interesting. I will throw out the definition out there. So you have something to work with.

So you know what word I'm talking about. You don't have to buzz in or anything like that. Just tell me 1860s or 1960s. Okay. And we'll see who's right and who's wrong. How about that? Sounds good. Okay.

The clink. The clink, meaning jail. We've got thrown in the clink. Is this, you know, student protesters from the 1960s or is it Civil War? I'll say 1860s. I'll say 19. 18, 18, 18, 19. It's 1860s.

The clink would have been used during the Civil War. Civil War, yep. Sounds like a disease, like a... It's like the chains clinking together. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do, too. Oh, I'm thinking of them. Or the clink of the door as it shuts here. Yeah, right, exactly.

Oh, okay. To book it, as in to move very quickly. We booked it out of there. We got a book. 19. Is this 1860s civil war slang, or is this 1960s? Book it. To book it.

Yeah, book as in to move quickly. Or 1960. Well, yeah. 19. I'll say 19 as well. 19. 19. It is 1960 slang. We booked it out of there. Book in. Yep. Chin music. Not getting kicked in the chin by Sean Michaels, but chin music as in conversation. Conversation. The phrase chin music to mean conversation. The sounds of chatter. 18. 18. It's got to be 18. 18. Everybody thinks it's 18. Everybody is right. Everybody is right. Yes. 16 slang. A lot of facial hair back there. Feels like rustic and sarcastic. That's also a baseball slang.

Oh, yeah? Like, if you get like a pitch offly close to your head or something, he's like, oh, I got a little chin music there. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep. Goober peas. Goober peas, meaning peanuts, meaning peanuts, yes. Oh. Guber peas.

I know the candy goobers, is the chocolate covered? The question is it super recent or? 18. You're right. It's the 1860s. Yeah, it would have been in use in the 1860s. And again, some of these may even predate the 1860s by a lot. lot, but I mean, these are...

Goober peas. Goober peas, meaning peanuts. It does sound good. Gut wadden. Gut wadden. That is cheap food that fills you up. Gutwadden. It's got to be filling.

I've inclined to agree right out. It sounds very... To get some gut waddened. In the trenches. Some hardened, some tired people. Yeah, you get like some like... Are we up there in agreement? Salt music.

Right, right, right. or something, yeah. It's all body part and something else. Yeah. In music and the gut wads. So 1860s for everybody. You're all wrong. It's 1960s slang for going down to McDonald's and getting some, like, the cheap fast food.

Got lot in. Yep. Hunky dory. Wow. We hear this a lot today. Hunky dory just meaning, okay, I'm all right. I'm doing good. I'm hunky dory.

Is that a 1960s or 1860s? Yeah, like surf terms. It's possible it was in the 1860s, too, but definitely in the 1960s. I think you're tricking us. I'm going to say 1860s. I feel like this is an old term. I'm going to say 1860s. Honky-dory.

They used it in the Civil War. I'm trying to imagine, like, those Civil War dudes. Right. When everything was not Hungky-Dory. Yeah, nothing was very hunky-dory at that moment. Mish-shaping bullets were flying by there. It was like the opposite of Humky-Dory. Right.

I'll say, I'll go 19. I'll go 19. It is 1860s. It is an 1860s. It is an 1860s. phrase. It means the same. Oh, it means the same thing.

It means hunky dory. It's an old phrase. I feel like that kind of word construction of the hyphenated and, I don't know. Yeah. Mamby, Pamby. Sure. Yeah, like Mamby, right, right. Bogart, as in to hog something to take all, don't Bogart the marijuana cigarette.

Yeah, totally. It's often, often said. It has to be 1960, right? Yes, is that 1860 or not since it's a Harry Potter thing? No, that's a. Boggert. Yeah. But like Humphrey Bogart.

Right. Wait, but did it come from that or not? Who knows? Oh, is it fake? I don't know. One is it was fake. I'm just saying, who knows where comes from? I say 19.

If it's not 19. Dana says 19. My head will fall up. I'm very shocked. Dana says 19 with a bet. What does it mean again? To hog something, to take all to something. Don't Bogart the broccoli.

18. Yeah? What is it? 1960s. Okay. I'm the worst. Like a hungry bogart. Finally.

um bark juice bark juice meaning alcohol bark juice 18 yeah 19 I would say it just yeah I'm gonna go to Karen I agree with Karen

I'd be like 1960 they would have cooler words like booze it could be like some beatnik no you know what I've switched I'm gonna go in 1960s I'm gonna say like yeah I say 19 for bark juice for bark juice

yeah Dana says 19 Colin says 19 Karen says 18. It is in 1816s, a term for alcohol. Yes, and since this is a good job, Brayne, I left out about five or six different words and phrases meaning prostitute. I have very quickly here looked up the OED origins of Bogart. Yes.

1969. Wow. To keep a joint in your mouth dangling from the lip like Humphrey Bogart's cigarette in the old movies instead of passing it on. First, why. It is the marijuana cigarette related. Yeah, first attested in Easy Rider. Okay. Okay.

There we go. Okay. And that's why it's Bogart. Like, why you have a, yeah, it's dangling from your mouth. You look like Humphrey Bogart right now. Oh my God, that's great. Wow. Okay.

Joint is slang for a marijuana cigarette, by the way. Just, just to be clear. Uh, I know. No, no notes. No. Wow. Well, obviously living in... Well, not living in America.

I might know these slangs, but I don't know the origin. Like, this is... That was very eye-opening to me. But I want to talk about something that is of an American invention. Originally called Fruit Smack. What? Do you know what Fruit Smack? Wasn't it Kool-Aid or something?

It became Kool-A. Oh. Fruit Smack originally invented by Edwin Purim. which is the Kool-Aid inventor. This is the proto-cool-Aid. So before Kool-Aid, which is a powdered consistency, Fruit Smack was a liquid consistency. So it's a concentrate.

Or your fruity beverage. And still, it was too heavy. So what he did was evaporated all of the liquid. And then it came up a powder. Oh, it's like Hawaiian Punch. So Fruit Smack, Hawaiian Punch. Oh, nice. Like, like, smack your mouth.

right punch your mouth right right right or like beef kick oh wait that's a powder beef beverage yeah yeah it's a bit's more of a boolea original didn't sell very well didn't sell very well yeah yeah it after they they rebranded it beef kick

now are you saying that the cow's gonna kick me because that doesn't sound that doesn't sound pleasant Well, does the Hawaiian Punch Kid punch some? He just, oh, yeah, he just goes around punching people. So it would be a cow kicking people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, naturally.

Naturally. I have some cool facts about, oh, no, okay. I have some cool facts about a Kool-Aid, but like, you know, one of the things is the Kool-Aid mascot, which is the Kool-Aid man. Yeah. Who is a giant pitcher. Pitcher of Kool-Aid. Who was originally called the Pitcher Man. That sounds really scary.

That's a horror movie, yeah. I hope that was a joke on Pitchman, maybe. Maybe. I think, no, they're just like, let's put legs and arms and a face on a vessel where you drink this and it just became Kool-A-Ber. You're so it's not Pitcherman? But, you know, the Pitchardman. They changed it at Ellis Island. Right, right, yeah. Isaac Pitcherman. Right, from, yeah, from Pitch-Oxie.

Yeah. Can you imagine that Kool-Aid man taking the little boat to Dallas? Right. It's just so big. Cool-Aid man has gone through many, many. I cover a lot, because he was invented really early on. There used to be a man in a pitcher, in a Kool-Aid pitcher outfit. Like in the commercials.

He used to play live action. Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah. And after 1994, it was either a computer or it was animated. But the children are still, the children are still real children. I have not seen a Kool-Aid commercial in forever. The Kool-Aid man did go through like a cool, 80s and these resurgence. They put a load jacket on him. He would like...

Oh, yeah. The leather jacket. Get it cover sneakers. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It didn't read as cool to me. They were going to have him with Reebok pumps, but then he'd bend over to pump the shoes up.

He's looking at his shoes. You say that, but there was a Reebok Kool-Aid collaboration where they made Reebok shoes based on Kool-Aid flavors and his face is on the side of the shoe. What? Wow. And you lick the shoe? No. And it tastes, oh, I don't know.

This is what a room of marketing people thinks children want. I'm not done with awesome. I'm not done. Do you remember a specific flavor called sharkleberry fin? Yes. Yes, of course. Yes. I do, I do not.

I do not. There's a place, yeah, I don't remember where my keys are, but there's a place in my brain for remembering that sharkleberry fin exists. And charcoalberry fin is the Kool-A man riding a pink shark. With sunglasses, of course It's so nice Well, how else would you know it's cool? It's a very hard to find flavor According to the Kool-Aid

Collectible and Enthusiast's circle Is it produced still? No, it is, you can buy the single packets And it's the first Kool-Aid flavor To ever have banana. Huh, okay, I believe that. It's tropical. So you mean, okay, so you can, like you have to go buy old

Kool-Lade packet. Are they going to bring it back? I think I read something. Shricleberry. Yeah, because people are demanding. Demanding. I want banana-flavored cool. Anyways, all this Kool-Aid talk.

This is leading to something. This is leading to something. Okay. Being in the tech industry in San Francisco, I hear the phrase drinking the Kool-Aid. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I looked up where it came from on the origin. It is not a happy story.

Right. You guys all know this. I have no idea. There are two very distinct meanings, but they all stem from the same origin in terms of drinking the Kool-Aid. It's used in the political sense, meaning eminent loss. We're going to lose this election or we're going to lose something. And so, yeah, so there is a political meaning saying, time to break out the Kool-A, let's drink the Kool-Aid. We're on our way to lose.

Yeah. And then we're probably more familiar with the, man, that guy's really drinking his Kool-Aid. Like, he's really into himself. He's buying, blindly buying into this... Indoctrinated. Idea or this product. And you can see why there is such a big business tilt to it because it is this new product. Yeah, it's awesome.

And they're drinking the Kool-Aid. So it's kind of two different meanings, but they all stem from the Jonestown Massacre, which I had no idea where is drinking the Kool-Aid comes from. A very, very quick history lesson. Jones Town Massacre, very, very sad. This happened in the 70s. Basically, it was an American cult community that uprooted themselves from America to Guyana, which is in South America. And 900 people died from a mass suicide, and they're told that this is by Jim Jones, the cult leader, that this is the way it has to be.

And they drank cyanide, avalium, and mixed in with not cooling. flavor aid the brand name that they drink this instant powder drink was flavor aid was flavor aid poor Kool-Aid there might have been Kool-Aid in the compound this is why you protect your copyrights in your trademarks because you don't want it to become a generic term for this reason I have never even heard of the brand flavor aid but it is a Kool-Aid knockoff from America that is a morbidly interesting trivia a bit, though. You're right. Yeah, true.

Yeah. It was unfortunate thing for Kool-Aid, but also unfortunate event for America, because the Jonestown Massacre is before 9-11, the biggest recorded amount of civilian death. Hmm. Wow. In one event. And you can see how that origin or that story, that piece of history, came up with drinking the Kool-Aid. It's black humor.

It is. It's imminent loss. I believe, like, they had done. They had done trials of this as well. I think I had read that. They had done it with non-poison flavor aid. So it wasn't like this was a surprise to them, that they knew what was going on. Yeah, the power of Jim Jones and his charisma and, you know, just his personality.

And this is where the business side of the Kool-Aid, drinking the Kool-Aid comes from, is that you accept, you believe, and you buy in on this. Like me, if you say that a lot and you don't know where. where I'm not saying you can't say it, but now you know where it comes from for listeners who don't know. And also that it was flavor-a-it-it-it-was not Kool-A. Interesting.

Yeah. And sad. So there you go. A little bit dark, but now you know. Book Club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday.

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Oh, really? Yeah. It's just like, oh, it's a, it's can't for, I didn't ask you because it's obvious. But it's like, oh, they're just silly words that go with hop. Right, right. The reduplication. Yeah, hip hop. I can see why they made the change because now if you say hep, I think of hepatitis.

Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, yes, I have a possibly hip, hep, quiz for you guys. It's been a while since I've inflicted some sports trivia on you guys. So I will I promise to try and go easy here. I have sports slang quiz. So what I'm going to

do is I'm going to give you a word or phrase that is hopefully very common known slang for the sport and I will give you the sport and you tell me what it means. Oh, okay. These are pretty colorful. I like it. Some of these are very weird. Some of these are weird. Some of these are

And where possible, I will try and give you a little bit of etymology. It will not surprise you to learn that a lot of these sports slang terms have disputed origins. Okay. All right. Here we go. First one. So get your buzzers ready. Buzz in if you think you know it.

And remember, I'm giving you two pieces of information, slang and sport. You tell me what it means. Okay. In bowling. What is a turkey? I think everyone clicked in on that one. Three strikes in a row. It is.

Three strikes in a row. I see my tweet. Do you guys see my good job, brain tweet? I found out all the different names. Oh, yeah. The different consecutive stripes. Yes, there's many different ones. Yes, the four bagger or the five. Yes, there's many, many different names.

The turkey is one of the more well-known and easier to accomplish. Turkey is pretty standardized. Yeah. There are, believe me, I tried. I could not find any citations for the actual origin of this, but a very commonly told story is that once upon a time it was common either for a particular bowling alley or for bowling alleys in general to award a turkey

during the holiday season to the first person on a team maybe that day who could get three consecutive strikes. Who knows? Get people on the door. Yeah, possibly. Possibly is the best day. And to be fair, it did used to be a lot harder to hit three strikes in a row than it is.

Yeah, right. The bowling alley was all. I mean, the balls were oblong. The pins were set by hand. They weren't going to be... They were pull-a-kins, right? Right, right, right. Right, all right.

In football, American, American-style football. What is a Hail Mary? Chris. That is when you basically, when you're like, you know, 80 yards, you know, to the goal, and there's 10 seconds left on the clock, you don't have any timeouts, and it's just like, okay, run super fast towards the goal, and I'll just lob the ball towards you, and there's a one out of a hundred chance you're going to catch it, but whatever, it's basically like, say a prayer to Mary Mother of God,

and maybe she is rooting for your football team, and she will intervene and guide the ball to the hand of the receiver. That's right. So it's just, you're really far from the goal, and someone's just going to throw the ball, and someone's just going to run. You say a little prayer and hope that you're really far from the goal. You're down so much. much, time's running out, that even if it's intercepted, it doesn't matter because you're

going to lose anyway. And yeah, like slam dunk or home run, this is one that's kind of moved out, you know, it's, oh, it's, we're down to our Hail Mary play. Right, right, right, yeah. This is interesting, uh, for the real, uh, sports fans among you, you might be interested to learn. Who's that? I found out, uh, that this only dates back to 1972, this term, and it's credited to Roger Stauback, who is a famous, famous, famous, Dallas Cowboys quarterback. Uh, but he is credited with coming up with the word. Yeah, an interview. The interviewer for Sporting News says,

I asked if he really saw the receiver or if he was throwing it away. He said, let's just call it my Hail Mary play. Wow. There we go. Wow, it's always nice when you can pinpoint it right on the dock. So satisfying. Yeah, it is. Yeah.

In the sport of hockey, what is the five hole? The five And I can give you a hint if you want. Chris, I'll take a... Is it the penalty box? No, no.

Karen. What is A5 hole? The 5 hole. The 5 hole. Or A 5 hole. Is it the hole in the middle where you do the kickoff? The fuck off? The fuck off.

No, no. The 5 hole, I'll give you hint. Because there's five areas. There are five face off circles. You're right. It's related to. to the goalie, the five hole is related to the goalie position.

The face. No, not the face, but you're thinking in the right direction. The butt. The five hole. The five hole is the spot between the legs. Oh my God. That's what I thought it was without any clues. The spots

are numbered. The spots are, so if you're a goalie in front of the net, you've got glove side high, glove side low, stick side high, stick side low, and those are one, two, three, four. And then there's the five hole, which is right between the legs. Gotcha.

Yep. Yes. Oh my God. That's the word we need to say. Five hole is grace. Yeah. I loved him in an American tale. Five hole.

Five hole. Five hole. In the sport of basketball. What is a brick? What's a brick? Oh. I believe this when you throw the basketball and it just like bounces off the backboard and just rebounds and does not go into.

I will accept that. I will accept that. Yeah. Notably, it's a bad shot. shot that's not an airball. It's a thing. A brick has to, yeah. It made contact with something.

That's so poetic, airball and brick. Yeah, yeah. And air ball. And I think the connotation is pretty clear. It's like you're throwing up bricks. They're not very pretty to look at. The worse a shot is, the more likely it's going to be called a brick. All right.

We've had this one a pub quiz before. This one's shown up in the sport of baseball. In the sport of baseball, what is Uncle Charlie? Karen That is a Curveball You are correct Okay

It's with C as well Not knuckleball Yeah It has a C and an R in there Charlie curve Who is Uncle Charlie? Is that named after person Well I'm thinking

I'm spacing on the name of it But it's Charlie as in Military Code for C This one's a little unclear As to where the Charlie And Uncle Charlie comes from Some people say military Some people say CB radio

code. It's kind of lost to the mists of baseball, but yeah, Uncle Charlie is code for the curveball. Last one, and I'm not going to give you a sport here. So, all right, what is a hat trick? And what sport might you use it in? Chris

and or Karen. Hockey. Uh-huh. And it's when you score three goals, oh, no, excuse me. Is it when one player scores three goals in a single game, or is it when one team scores three goals in a row without the other team scoring? A hat trick is one player scoring three goals in a game.

It's three. It doesn't need to be consecutive, doesn't need to be unanswered. But this thing evolves into three of anything kind of almost. It does. Much like, you know, Hail Mary and Grand Slam and et cetera, it's evolved out of sports. Yes, it's a menu item at Denny's. You'll hear it mostly in... I order the Hail Mary all the time at Denny's, personally.

You'll hear it mostly in hockey, also in soccer. you can have a hat trick in soccer, three goals. And there are a lot of stories about where this one originated in hockey leagues. It's a bagel as well. NHL teams, going back to like around the mid-century, they're competing stories, but they all sort of revolve around the same theme of a local businessman or team sponsor basically offered a reward of a free hat, a nice free hat, to any player who could score. All of these things always sound like things people needed an explanation for,

so they made up the most obvious explanation. Like, why is it called a turkey? Why is it called a hatrick? Because they gave you a free hat. Why is it called Hail Mary? Because they gave it a free Bible Day. The fans of Montreal claim it came from Montreal. Toronto fans came, it came from Toronto.

Of course, of course. All of them are wrong. Oh, yeah? It didn't come from hockey. It didn't come from soccer. A hat trick goes back to late 1800s. from cricket. It is a cricket term.

What a sticky wicket. And this has been verified. There are a lot of citations. It really did mean originally, in cricket, a bowler who takes three wickets in three successive balls. Okay. After which he would be presented by his club or the fans or the boosters with a new hat. It really was. And now keep in mind.

Free hat. Keep in mind. Once upon a time, men wore a lot more hats than they do now. And hats were very expensive. And hats were not cheap. And a nice, you know, bespoke hat could be a big deal. So yeah, cricket. We get it from cricket all the way into hockey and soccer with a hat trick. You'd be rewarded with a hat. I want to see what kind of hat. If it's like a top hat or like a. Well, if it was a bowler hat for the bowler. Indeed. It might have been. No, I looked it up. Yeah. Oh, that'd be too perfect. Wait. What was it like? Like, well, no, no. I looked up the bowler hat to see. there's any sport connotations.

But yeah, you're right. So anyway, hat trick now, any kind of three of anything in a game, sort of loosely a hat trick. But yeah, the traditional hat trick is three goals. Yeah. All right. Well, you guys know more sports slang than maybe you thought. Five bagger in the five hole.

Yeah. Shut your five hole. Four bagger in the five hole. I mean, it sounds like what it is when you say. There are a lot of golf terms, right? Like golf. Oh, yeah. Albatron.

Birdie. Albatross, Eagle, yeah, yeah, yeah. Condor. Condor. It is a thing. The money guide. You just go around randomly dropping your ball into other people's holes. That's the honey guide.

Oh, you mark myself down for a honey guide on that one. Time to hit the bar. 18 holes I've done. I won. 18 holes, 18 seconds. I have to drink. All right. And thank you, Cheryl, for suggesting slings and giving us a little bit of an intro.

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