Good Job, Brain! - 177: FIGHT!!!

Episode Date: March 21, 2016

Fists up, brains up! This week, we're heading into the ring filled with facts and trivia about fighting: learn about the (nice) Japanese tradition of spider fighting, and find out why MMA fighters should not blow their noses. Colin finds out what exactly did occur and spur, sir, during that fateful duel between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr. Everyone was kung-fu fighting in Karen's Asian martial arts quiz, and just how well do you know your professional wrestler movie cameos? ALSO: beaver teeth, eyeball transplant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, carnivorous cranial cracker jacks. Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 177, and I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your collectors of creative canvases, consisting of cosmopolitan concentration on your canny and crafty commodity. I'm Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm Chris.

That was from Emily. And she also, I didn't add this in, but she also said, coming at you from Chris Kohler's Community of Connecticut. Wow. Hey there. Capital. How you doing? And we have listener mail.

This is from Jim. This is a listener mail from a while ago. So we did talk about a long time ago. Jerry Orbach, late-grade actor, Jerry Orbach, Voice of Lumier from Beauty and Beast. Lenny Briscoe from Law & Order. In Chicago on Broadway, I believe. And he was a baby's dad in dirty dancing. He put her in the corner.

So he famously donated his eyes to New York, to the bank. Sorry, to the Oregon bank. Like his literal idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Mullaney famously talked about it in his comedy stand-up. I think one of the questions we had was, you know, for any of the eye transplant surgery or when you donate or when you receive an eye, how does that work? If you're missing a left eye, can you just shove a right eye in there? Oh, right, yeah.

Oh, you were. Yes. Yeah. Does somebody finally answer this for us? A couple of people did, but this guy, he is an optometrist in the U.S. Navy. Oh. Jim. He says, there was some confusion if his eyes were able to be transplanted and bring back vision or.

if the eyes were able to switch positions left to right or vice versa. I am an optometrist in the U.S. Navy and can tell you that most of the time the cornea is the only useful tissue from a donated eye, so not the whole eyeball. He says the cornea can be replaced if someone has had a chemical burn or other disease that causes it to become opaque. Transplanting the retina is at this time impossible. So diseases like macular degeneration and glaucoma are unethical. untreatable with donor tissue. As for putting a right eye in the left socket, this is also impossible because of the six ocular muscles

and the optic nerve wouldn't line up correctly. I can't say I'm surprised. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Yeah, so my theory of just flipping it over would not work. Right. Hopefully you learned something about eye anatomy and vision. I am glad we got a legitimate answer to that. This reminds me, did I ever tell you the,

the one about the guy who lost an eyeball. No. They probably shouldn't. It's too corny a joke. Ugh. You know secretly I love it, though? I also like groaning

about it, but it's like, oh, it's a pun. Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoy that. And one more fun, good job, brain-related fact. Many people wrote in, I didn't know this.

Good job, brain, spirit animal is the beaver. We've mentioned many, many facts about the beaver. Did you know, beavers have orange teeth? No. Like, like, cheeto-colored teeth. Really? Really?

Bright orange teeth. Huh. Makes our graphic design elements really come together. Yeah. Good job, brain orange. Yeah. Why is this? So that's a thing.

Someone tweeted. They eat a lot of Cheetos. They just have, like, photos of it. And the thing is that it took me, like, a while to, like, hunt down the reason why they're orange. Like, a lot of road. actually do have orange teeth. But why?

Beavers chew up a lot of wood, and they do a lot of, like, wood cutting. So their teeth are super strong, and that orange is an outer enamel that it's super, super strong. It's orange because it has iron. Okay. It's like oxide.

Yeah. So it's the iron compound in that layer of enamel that makes it super strong. So when they're born, they have white teeth, and then it grows. and that throughout their lifespan as they're wearing down the hard orange enamel, then it gets lighter. Interesting.

But yeah, bright orange cheeto teeth. That is just cementing their status. It's our animal now. Yeah, our spirit is orange. For those reasons and more. The front end of the animal and the back end. It's just a treasure trove. Treasure trove of trivia.

Oh, man. Without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop Quiz, Hot Shot. And we did this last episode. I'm going to ask Chris to do it again, just because I get to play. Yeah, right, right, exactly. Yeah, you've got to get mixed up in some of the top quiz hotshots from time to time. So, listen, folks, this is how it's going to go.

We've got what is, you know, looking worse and worse, every show we use it, a book now really just sort of a stack of loose paper out of a 2003-era home game of Jeopardy. However, you know, I usually flip through these books and find a good set of questions. for us. Yeah, you cherry pick. I do cherry pick because I want to find something that's funny. However, let's just randomize it this time. So, Colin, pick a number between 2 and 30. 17.

Okay, great. Dana, pick a number between 1 and 5. Two. And Karen, why don't you pick either single or double jeopardy? Double. Double jeopardy. All right. Colin, pick another number between 2 and 30.

24. 24. Dana, 1 and 5. 2. Oh, two again. Single or double? Single. Single Jeopardy.

Discretion is the better part of valor. So that gives me a couple of categories for us, so let's find out what they are. Have you doomed yourself or what? Most likely. Category is, it's a big world. It's a big, oh, no, excuse me, no, it's not because that's single Jeopardy. Oh. So, sorry, you don't get to say it's a big world.

Oh, oh, it's even better. Category is, let's go online. What's long on your internet in 2003? All right. This is pre- YouTube. This is pre- YouTube. It is free YouTube. And here it is.

$200 question. Your very expensive question. Number one, there's no place like this cozy page, the first page of a website. Colin. Oh, my goodness. what is a home page the home page in the online world the abbreviation w-w-w-w means this Dana what is World Wide Web

World Wide Web for $1,200, yeah-ha It's the world's most popular internet directory. What was Yahoo? What was Yahoo? In internet for $1,600, in internet domain name, dot-gov stands for government and dot-net for network and dot-org. for this. Karen. What is organization?

Finally. What else could it be? Organs. Orgon donation. Finally, for $2,000, this type of space is slang for the internet. Colin. What is cyberspace? What is cyberspace?

Karen just lost it over here. Oh, my God. That's in age well. Well, really putting us on the cutting edge. Time changes quickly. This is pre-W-Fi, too. That's mom and dad doing an AOL dot. Yeah, like they don't know, they don't know.

All right. And game 24, category two, single Jeopardy is decor. Oh. Okay. Okay. Probably hasn't changed that much since 2003. Here we go. Okay.

Traditionally, hotel lobbies have these potted trees for detectives to hide behind. What? Really for real? It says traditionally hotel lobbies have these potted trees for detectives to hide behind. Wait a minute. I think they're being cheeky here.

I don't know. What are they? Maybe it's a reference to some. Is it like, I mean, yeah. Who was that? That was me. Dana. What is a rubber tree plant?

No. Okay. I mean, it's not a palm, right? It's a potted palm. I guess you can grow them indoors. That's a final answer. What is a palm? Yeah, what is a potted palm?

Oh, there you go. It's four detectives to hide? Hold on. They're just being cheek. It must be a pop culture reference thing. Yeah. I don't know. What do you think, Karen?

Karen doing the research on the worldwide web. Karen logging into cyberspace. Are you looking at the? the most popular it's just a clunky it's just a reference to a troe I think it's a trope

moving right along I thought I'll be so cool if it was a if there was one hotel that had a you know a real story like they're like oh because the detectives

need to hide in the lobby yeah yeah no $200 shelves on these chunks of concrete that include bits of coal can lend

a collegiate look. Remember, the category is decor. Yes. Shells on these chunks of concrete that include bits of coal can lend a collegiate look. Colin, what are cinder blocks? Cinder blocks. Yes.

Did not know that. They were called cinder blocks. I didn't know. But why is it collegiate? Because that's what you do in your dorm. You make furniture out of cinder blocks. Cinder block plank of wood. Cinder block plank of wood.

Oh. Then you get your shells. Okay. In the late 90s, maybe. That was the thing people did. We are doing so bad at single Jeopardy. Inserted in a window, it's meant to be seen through. As a room partition, it's not.

Dana. What is a screen? What is a screen? What is a screen? Indeed. $400. Nationality of designer Arnie Jacobson, or the modern style he held.

popularize Karen What is Swedish No, it is not Swedish Sorry Arnie Jacobson Arnie Jacobson or The

What is Danish? What is Danish? Oh God Indeed And finally $500 It's all tied up The name of this

fixture that holds candles and lamps Comes from the Latin For To Hide It was Karen First What is votive

No. Chandelier. What is chandelier? Not a chandelier. Candelabra. Not a candelabra. It comes from the... To hide.

There is a word in English that means, like, hidden away in, and it's very simple. Oh, um... Colin. What is sconce? Yes. What is a sconce? Oh, good job. What is a scone?

With $5,000, $2,003, Colin is the winner. I don't know. I have no idea. I wasn't even paying attention. Worldwide way. But yes, yes, exactly. Good job, brains. This week, another Colin Felton topic.

Yeah, straight from the inner workings of my topic brain. I was trying, you know, we've talked in the past about a lot of human interactions. I was thinking the one interaction, what's going on around us? There's a lot of, we got political fighting. There was a big mixed martial arts fight. I was realizing we haven't done anything about conflict and fighting. I mean, we've talked about weapons. Street Fighter 5 is going to come out?

Oh, there you know. I totally meant that as well. Big in my world. I thought we would talk about all kinds of fighting, and it can be anything from martial arts to using your words. So let's fight. Let's fight. So when I heard this week's topic was about fighting, I was like, what do I know about fighting?

And I was like, not much, you know. And then I was like, I just Googled fighters. And I saw this thing come up. It's like, why are MMA fighters told not to blow their nose during the fight? And I was like, that's what I'm going to talk about. You need to know this. Yeah. Okay.

First, I did not know that MMA fighters are told not to blow. During the fight? Yeah, during the fight, right? Or even between rounds and the fight? Oh, just at all. Like, why do you not blow your nose? Okay, okay, all right. Yeah, I wonder if, like, can we guess before you tell us what the real answer is?

Sure, yeah. Something about, like, you know, if you get hit and your nose starts bleeding, but you blow your nose, you might lose more blood, so you want to keep all the boogers in there because maybe they don't put blood in. Or, like, your brain might come out. Okay, that's my... My guess is it makes for bad TV. No.

Huh. I was going to somewhere between those two, yeah. Somewhere between it's gross and it's bad for it. I was thinking, I mean, like, some sort of health, yeah, reason, but, I mean, there's blood all over those matches. I don't know. There's blood. So, it's basically, it's this. If you get hit in the face a lot, all the veins and the vessels in your face get broken and in your eye, you know, start swelling a bit.

And when you blow your nose, you're putting a lot of pressure on your things. You contract and you feel that, yeah. It's a, it's called a Val Salva maneuver. That's basically when you, like, hold your nose and you blow really hard in there. Yeah. Like when you're trying to pop yours on an airplane. Yes, exactly like that. That puts so much pressure on your veins.

And so if you blow your nose and you've had all this damage to your face, your eye might swell shut. And so if your eyes swell shut, you're like at a, it doesn't come out. Yeah, I thought you're going to say your eye might just pop out. It adds like your face, all like the little weakened blood vessel. Like now blood is out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you pop all your blood vessels.

Now you're like your whole face is swollen and now you're at a huge dissipation. Right, right. Yeah. If you're fighting. And then you've got to be like Rocky where he cuts his eyelid. Wait, what? I never watched the movie. Yeah.

It was in Rocky 2 maybe? No, I think one. What's it in one? His eye was, it was swollen so shut. He's like, you can't see, Rock. He's like, cut me. He's like, cut me. That was two fantastic impressions of one after the other.

You can't see, Rock. Cut me, cut me. It's like, whoa, that right. Man of a thousand voices. Do walk it now. Do walk it now. we'll do it like but yeah okay so as so that's why the old rule is don't blow your nose in you can pick your opponents and you can pick your nose but don't blow it one of the things

i was researching before i switched gears was uh the cut man in boxing um which is just really i mean i'm not first i'm not a big boxing fan at all but the the teamwork that goes into making a box are able to fight like in Rocky you know you get a cut what do you do you got to deal with it so if you guys have ever watched like boxing highlights you know if a guy you know has a cut over his eye or something they'll come to the corner and there is a person on the staff whose job is to deal with cuts and blood and they have a couple tools in their arsenal and one of their tools is literally it's just a hunk of metal super cooled hunk of steel and they just put it on your cut to reduce the swelling and help it

kind of close up they'll put in some chemicals sometimes it's like holding your finger under cold water yeah yeah get the capillaries to close up if you cut your finger it's called it's called an end swell like because it ends the swelling wow so they have to deal with hopefully everything ends well they have to deal with cuts and they also have to cut you yes they might also have to cut you as well yeah and if you can't stop the bleeding you know the fighter can lose the fight because of that so it's you know you've got like just it gets all over your eyes too i mean that's the thing right Like, it's when you get punched, the friction of your skin, especially in your forehead, like, it rips. Yeah.

And you see all the blood covering their vision. I learned this one. I think that's the vision that Dana's talking about that really puts you in a disadvantage. Well, like, if your eye is totally swollen shut, you can't open it, you can't see. I learned cut men will use Vaseline pretty liberally because, like, it makes the skin more elastic, so it won't tear open as much. I learned that fighters, you know, you can't do too much because it becomes an advantage, but fighters will put Vaseline in their eyes. eyebrows to keep blood from dripping down through their eyebrows. It's it's bloody gruesome business.

They need little eyebrow visors. Now, of course, in professional wrestling where sometimes they want to cut themselves so that blood goes all over their face, they will actually, you know, hide a razor in their pants and like cut themselves above the eyebrow because like there's such a thin kind of layer of skin up there that like you get a lot of blood from a tiny little. cut. You can get a whole face full of blood. Yeah, that's like for show. Yeah, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep. It'll go a long way. That's hard, though, if you feel like you need to blow your nose, but you can't. Oh, my God. It's like wanting to sneeze and not getting the sneeze out. It's just so frustrating. Now I want to blow my nose. I don't know what you do. No frills, delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express.

Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points. on your first five orders. Shop now at no-frails.ca. Well, I mentioned professional wrestling, so let's just forge on with professional wrestling. In a segment that I'd like to call, wrestlers go to the movies.

Oh, yes. Everybody goes to the movies. Everybody goes to the movies. You know, over the years, many professional wrestlers have starred in feature films, so I'm going to name the movie. All right. And you were going to tell me

of a professional wrestler who starred in said film. Yeah. This is right up Karen's alley. It is. I mean, I only follow wrestling for, you know,

late 90s or the 20. Right, right, right. Yes. In general, these are, these are films that starred those wrestlers or at least,

or at least feature them in a prominent role rather than like, oh, this guy who was a professional wrestler is in the background. That's okay. Yeah, like, you know,

they made memorable appearances in these films, let's just say. Recent film, Guardians of the Galaxy. C. Karen. David Batista. Dave Batista.

Yes, indeed. And his star-making turn as Drax. He was so good. He was great. He was so good. He was good. Mr. Nanny. Dana.

Is this Hulk Hogan? This is Hulk Hogan, yes. Has starred in many a film, but was in Mr. Nanny. And Gremlin. Yes. Yeah. The Tooth Fairy. Oh.

Karen. This is The Rock. This is the Rock. This is Duane. Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And as the Tooth Fairy. G.I. Joe, the animated movie. G.I. Joe.

The animated. The animated. The animated movie. Colin? Jesse Ventura. This is not Jesse Ventura. This is a W.W.E. wrestler who was also a G.I. Joe character. Oh.

So that's another phrasing this. Oh, Dana. Sergeant Slaughter? Yes, of course, of course. Wow, was that a, was that a partnership between G.I. Joe and WWE at the time? Yeah, I'm not exactly, no, WWF at the time. I'm not exactly sure how it all worked out. But yes, he was a G.I. Joe figure.

And, right. Hey, wrestler. The expendables. Oh, which one of those? Many action films stars, which one was the professional wrestler? Right, right, right. man okay let's just

sly uh oh that was just the whole barnyard symphony who was that uh triple h it's not triple age

it's not triple age I was just gonna say Arnold Schwarzenegger is not a professional oh no really it's a person is most closely identified with being a professional wrestler

there are certain like you know Donald Trump was at WrestleMania yeah that's what I meant like he made it appear

no it's a stone stone cold Steve awesome Yes, indeed. Man on the moon. Man on the moon. What movie is that? What movie is that?

The Andy Kaufman one. Yes. Yes. Had a famous feud with a wrestler who played himself in the film. It's Jerry Lawler. It is Jerry the King Lawler. Yes. Yes.

Predator. Colin. Jesse the Body Ventura. This is Jesse the Body Ventura. They live. Colin. Rowdy, Roddy Piper. Routy Piper.

May he rest in peace. Is that a horror movie? It's a John Carpenter parody horror film. Yeah, he's got the glasses where he can see the secret mess he is. The paranormal, right, yes, yes, yes. Spider-Man, as in the first

Toby McGuire Spider-Man. Oh. Holland. Was that Randy Macho Man Savage? That was Macho Man. Or, sorry, Macho Man Randy Savage. As Bonesaw McGraw. He played a professional wrestler named

Bonesaw. I remember that. Yes. Cool. Moonsaw. Really, really enjoy themselves. Yeah. Magic Mike.

I knew that was. Karen. Kevin Nash. Kevin Nash was in Magic Mike. That's right. A.k.a. Diesel. The Princess Bride. Oh.

Andre the Giant. Andre the Giant. He hardly knew Ye. Okay. Finally, I'll be so impressed if somebody gets this, but I really just want to talk about this. Sure. The Godfather. Whoa.

You win automatically if you get this. So here's a question. Was this person a wrestler during, like... Yeah. Oh, okay. So... This was a well-known professional wrestler who then played a role in the Godfather. It was not Marlon Brando.

It was not like Al Pacino. It was a professional wrestler. Captain Lou Alvano. I wish he was in the Godfather. Wouldn't that be amazing? Wow. Okay. Man, you got to place this.

What was Godfather in 1972? 72. 72. I will tell you, and I'll tell you the whole story. Karen. Mince McMan. No. Oh.

No, no, no, no. So, the gentleman's name is Lenny Montana. He is the, he played Luca Bratzi. I don't know what that is. He's the fish of the fishers. I am honored you invite me here on the day of your daughter's wedding. That guy? Okay.

You're right. So, he was a professional wrestler. very well known in the NWA, you know, before, you know, in the, you know, 50s, 60s, um, after professional wrestling or possibly concurrent with professional wrestling, he actually did some bodyguard slash arsonist work for an actual mafia family. Um, and he, he talks about this. Um, he said that one of his technique was to, uh, tie a tampon to a mouse, dip it in kerosene, light the tampon, and then let the mouse run through a building to set the building on fire.

Whoa. Poor mouse. Actual mafia arsonist slash professional wrestler. Wow. Lenny Montana played Luca Brad. That's yes. Wow. Yep.

Little helpful life hack from Good Job Brains from a free movie. The mouse, the tampon, and the kerosene. That sounds like a great day. Three ingredients readily available. It's a buzzfeed post. Like clickbait. You'll never believe you can burn this house down. Please, console your local ordinances first.

Well, yes. Oh, my God. No John Cena. Yeah, he was in train wreck. He was in train wreck. That's true. And in a bunch of men. Many wrestlers have.

McGruber had a couple. We saw a grubber. Yes, McGruber was great. That was, that had a whole sequence in which McGruber assembled and expendables like group of the most baddest ass dudes in the world and then accidentally blows them all up

with homemade sequel after the extended montage of them assembling them and it was guys like Mark Henry and some other there were all wrestlers. Ooh. Nice. Nice. Well, I have a quick quiz

about fighting, of course, first thing that came to my mind is martial arts. I grew up with all the gems of Chinese in Hong Kong. action movies of martial arts so of course I made a quick quiz

about just random grab bag of Asian martial arts The movies or the actual martial arts? It could be both Oh could be both

Yeah Some ninja turtles in here too Okay That traditional Asian martial arts The teenage movie ninja turtles You know All right

I'm going to have you guys Let's do it Write down quiz I'm going to have you guys write down these answers. One more post it plays. You know, I almost did, you know how I used to do the 30 seconds on the clock challenge

where you try to list as many blank as I say? And I was like, ah, I wanted to do a fighting games character one. And I was like, that's not going to be fair. That's not going to be fair. It's going to be a Pokemon round all over again. Puter, pooter, pooter, pooter. All right, question one. So Shaolin, Shaolin Temple, one of the,

major base in school and a tradition of kung fu and they had five original concept styles styles of kung fu that were inspired by animals can you name all five whoa if you watch kung fu panda say it's it's five animal styles yeah of of showlin style kung fu if you watch kung fu panda they actually have the characters the animal characters but but not all five of them are the five original There's only, like, one that I'm even partially... This style. This style. All right, okay. Oh, that's good.

Okay. Five. All right. There is one mythological animal, but I'm sure you guys will get that one mythological animal. Just checking. Yeah. I, uh... What Chinese mythical animal?

Gotcha. Fishing. Can you think of? Sure. It is. Yeah. It is the sphinx. No, I'm kidding.

All right. Answers up. Chris. Uh, Tiger, monkey, zebra, ram. And then you talk about mythical animals, so put dragon. Dana? Tiger, snake, crane, monkey, dragon.

I have a tiger, snake, crane, water buffalo, and dragon. It is, the five original. Tiger, leopard, crane, snake, and dragon. All right, so not monkey. Not monkey. Not monkey. But so throughout the years and decades, Shal and Temple started in, what, the 1300s in the Ming Dynasty, a long time ago.

So as that school progressed, there were more animal styles. There's deer style. There's monkey style. Oh, okay. Panda style? There is actually no panda style. There is bear style, but no panda style. Oh, I actually had bear written down and I crossed it out.

But that's not one of the reasons. Now it's expansive list, but those are the five. Tiger, leopard, crane, snake, dragon. Figured to be a lot of overlap between Tiger and Leopard. Yeah, and I think certainly if you're in America born any time in the last 35 years, you know Shaolin from either Kung Fu Panda or the Wu-Tang Clan. Yes. All right, we mentioned this on our last episode, but I'm going to ask it anyways.

What movie released in 2010 caused some localization controversy due to its title? All right. released in 2010 of some localization controversy where due to its title just awareness in general yeah all right answers the karate kid the karate kid I wrote Kung Fu Hustle

I would have I would have changed it to it is the karate kid supposedly the remake the Jaden Smith Jackie Chan version yes the 2010 version so it's called the Karate Kid a remake of the original the 80s karate kid with Ralph Machio and what's his face?

Pat Marina. Karate is Japanese. It is. And the new... Yeah, the Jackie Chan is Chinese. Also, the whole movie takes place in China. Where Jaden

does not practice karate but practices kung fu. Yeah, that's why it was renamed in Japan as the best kid. And the Chinese title is a kung fu dream. Hey, there we go. That's a nice.

There we go. At least it's accurate somewhere. Yeah, not in America. That's not accurate. But, yeah, so yeah, karate, Japanese, kung fu, Chinese. There's, I watch a lot of Sesame Street now. I don't know if you guys know this about me, but I watch a great deal of Sesame Street. Without your child.

Without my child. Yeah, when he's home and Suzanne, there's a cookie monster parody called the Biscotti Kid. And they end, and once he gets the belt, which is a black and white cookie with a yin-yang symbol on it. At the end, they're just like, you are now known as the Biscati. Scotty Kid until someone replaces you in the sequel or the remake. Oh, wow. Sassy. Satsmi Street is pretty good.

Karatee, fun fact, originating in Japan, but specifically in Okinawa. Hmm. I don't know that. In Okinawa. And it means empty orchestra. That's where they go and Karate Kid Part 2 to go to Okinawa. Actually, it means empty hands.

Yes, I know. Yes, that was. I was winking very hard, but, yes, in case that didn't come across. Karaoke, karate, yeah, empty, MD orchestra. Okay, I need you guys to detail, detailed inventory weapons list of all four Ninja Turtles from the cartoon. It differs in the comic, but tell me how many of what weapon they have. Oh, I see, I see. Man Oh

Okay Is it a pair Is it just one? Interesting What do you call those forks? Just to brush up on our TMNT There's Leonardo There's Raphael

There's Donatello And there's a lovable Michelangelo It's tough, it's tough Let's do a weapons inventory list All right, answers up I'm just going to have you go Okay. Donatello, he has a... The bow or staff.

One bow from Chris. Stick from Dana. That's fine. Bo one for Colin. Correct. He has one bow staff. Michelangelo. Nunchaku, two. Nunchukes two.

Raphael, he has... Stabbers. Yeah, I'm going to go with that. I put two sides. Yeah, paracized. All right, the tricky one. Leonardo. He has a katana.

I put two Because I thought he had two Dana Said blades How many Two I put one sword So I'm

I have no wiggle room for myself Although I know traditionally They would have like a long sword I don't know So in one version of the comics There is a long sword And a short sword Okay

The cartoon he has two katanas Ah I mean at first You know when I was thinking of blankly I was like I think he has one katana But he has two And then he goes, shoot, two crisscross on his shell. Makes sense.

Which is weird because the shell's curbed. So Donatello has the one staff. Yeah, so Donatello is the only one with one weapon. You're right, that doesn't make any sense. The shell's curve. The shell's curve. So how does he have... How are they crisscross on it?

Yeah, exactly. Underneath the shell. They would only tangentially meet the shell at, like, one point. At the top and it just sticks out. Right. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. It's super awkward to, like, get on the subway.

All right. What if it goes inside the shell? Like, his back is not connected to the... That's his body. Like, that's not... This is that slice his body. A bonus point, you don't have to write this down. Does I mean, no.

Shredder's real name? Yes. What is it? Chris is almost offended that you asked. Yes, I know. I have, I don't. I don't know. What's his name?

Oroku sake. Yes. All right. Good job. It's going to say Gene. That's why he's so mad. It's a boy's name. Gene.

Jean. All right. Jean. Gene. Jean. Jean. In this Asian martial arts grab bag quiz. Bruce Lee, famous icon.

Yep. What city was he born in? Oh. Okay. Bruce Lee. Cultural icon helped popularize. Bring the art of Kung Fu played Kato and Green Hornet. Okay.

Looks awesome in a yellow jumpsuit. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Chris says Shanghai. Dana says San Francisco. Colin says San Francisco. It is San Francisco.

Yeah, I knew he grew up in America, but I didn't know if he came over. Born America from very affluent and influential family. When he did come back to America, he settled up in Washington, the Seattle area, which is where he is buried. And he was a small-ish guy. He's a small guy. But then when he's in his little yellow jumpsuit or topless, you're like, wow, those are all muscles. Those are all muscles. Of course, his size is even like kind of exaggerated when he did that fight scene with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

Right. Who's like, he's as long as his leg. All right. Last question. Another celebrity question. This is it. What celebrity couple, so two names I'm asking for. Okay.

She has a Taekwondo first-hand black belt, and he has worked as a director and producer once for a WWE. They now provide voices for the Star Wars animated series Rebels. Both of them. Celebrity couple. They're married. She kicks ass because she's got a first-hand black belt in Taekwondo. He kicks ass because he worked for WWE.

And now they both work as voice actors for the same Star Wars show. Huh. He was a wrestler or no? He worked as a director and producer. He's a big fan. Big wrestling aficionado. No. Are these people, you think I would know who they have?

Oh, yeah. Here's a clue. I mean, there is a really good reason why she has a black belt in Taekwondo. Very 90s-centric couple. It's 90s. They met because they were both in a movie and a 90s movie. All right. Answers up.

Chris says Hillary Swank and Mr. Hillary Swank I know I like where you're going You're like oh she perfected her role Or something yeah Colin I was going to go Hillary Swank and whoever she's married I have nothing I have no good Dana you said I was

That's why I was asking about the divorce I was like Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck Oh from Daredevil maybe She was Electro Yeah okay It is Sarah Michelle Geller And Freddie Prince Jr. Really?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yes, she has a first-hand black belt in Taekwondo. I didn't know that. I know he was a director. He is a big wrestling fan and worked for some of the paper views and specials and directed and produced a couple stuff. I think I knew that from you telling me that. Yeah, I think I've talked about this on the show before. And funnily enough, they both are voice. He has a super major role in Rebels, which is the more recent Star Wars cartoon animated series. And she is the seventh sister, which is one of the guest characters. I did not Not know that.

Yeah. So it's weird that they're both on. And they were in, what were they in together? I know what you did last summer. Okay. Oh, yeah. She had a cameo on. She's all that.

Okay. Did she? Yeah, she was in a lunchroom. It was for one scene and she rolled her eyes. And I only knew that because I saw that three days ago. Okay. Well, good job, you guys. Let's take a quick break.

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No, no, no. Punch. Lightning round. We'll go fast. Okay. A tough-skinned terrestrial mollusk. Tough-skinned terrestrial mollus. Oh, yeah, sure.

A slug. Yes. Oh, second. Okay, some of the shell. I was like conch. Coconut crab. On the social networking site, Facebook, attract the attention of another member of the site. Oh.

Chris. Polk. Poak. Yes. a type of popular music of U.S. block origin in which words are recited rapidly and rhythmically a rap a garment for the foot

Karen sock sock there you go you go a short printed or written diagonal line typically separating characters or figures Chris slash oh but that's not the one I was saying I was like a slash too read it again a short printed or written

diagonal line, typically separating characters or figures. Not slash. Stroke. Oh, stroke. Yeah. A container with a flat basin sides. Box. They're so silly.

Cylinder. Yeah, so I was thinking cylindrical too. I was like a bowl. A device, typically flexible or worked by a spring, for holding an object or objects together or in place. Colin. A clip? Clip.

Oh, you clip somewhere. Okay. The end part of a sleeve. Chris. Cuff. Cuff. An obstruction blocking a hole or pipe or something else. Blockage.

Plug? Plug. Nice. Last one. To play jazz or rock music in an unrestrained style. Karen. Jam. Oh, that's not the one I was thinking of.

I don't think Jam is fighting, though. To play jazz music in an unrestrained style. Free. Not riff, no. Oh, Riff is good. No, to play jazz music in an unrestrained style, it's not jam. You know, like those old-timey cartoons would talk about that sometimes. Like they talk in the old slang of the day, the jazzy.

Jive? No. blow. Oh, to blow. To blow. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

All right. That was good. Good job. You're good. That was good. So if you guys were to compile a who's hot list of the founding fathers today right now, number one would probably go to Alexander Hamill. Oh, really?

I think so. Well, of who's hot right now? Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. I thought you meant like by looks. I was like, how do you guys know what they look like? Yeah, he might be number one on that list, too. Okay, got it.

I really, I was in my, my head wasn't hot or not. But, yes, in case you don't own a TV, read the news, or no, Karen Chu. Hamilton, the musical, I think, has made him pretty close to a household name again, at least here. So, Karen, I'm hoping as we go through this segment here, you'll be able to back me up, fill in some details. Oh, okay. Because I know that you are well acquainted with the Hamilton musical and that you've done a lot of research. What is your segment about? In my segment, I'm talking about one of the most important and consequential fights in American history.

Of course, the duel to the death between Alexander Hamilton and his rival Aaron Burr. The beef. The beef. Quite a lot of beef. This was huge beef. Yeah. So Alexander Hamilton, in case you are unaware, he was not a president, but he was a very important figure in the early days of our country. Treasury Secretary, founder of the Federalist Party.

He's also on our $10 bill, although he didn't know that at the time. And importantly, he had a very, very extremely contentious history with Aaron Burr. Did not like each other, rivals in every sense, undermining each other, backstabbing, political scheming. They, of course, Beave got to such a point that they had a duel, shooting duel, and Alexander Hamilton died from the injuries in that duel. Yes. If you grew up in America in the early 90s, you probably heard it in the Got Milk commercial, the very, very famous. The guy's eating peanut butter, and there's a radio calling contest to identify the person who shot Alexander Hamilton, but the guy is eating a peanut butter sandwich. Oh, you can say anything? He doesn't have any milk, and he's just like, oh, he's across from a picture of it in the library. Like he can see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that was the first got milk commercial. I think it was. It may have been the first. Is it pre-celebrities? It was certainly very, it was aired all the time. Yeah. I have to say, I'm a little ashamed how little I knew about this duel.

I mean, I knew it happened. Yeah. I knew that it was a big deal. And here's where I have to give you a little bit extra information. Karen, you know this as well. But I went to Alexander Hamilton High School. Like, my high school was named after this, man. And I have to tell you, like, they went all in on the theming.

So, like, our school paper was the Federalist. And our mascot was the Yankees. And we had a little kind of like fighting fists up version maybe of Alexander Hamilton. And he should have been having it with a gun. Right, right. It was so nerdy. Our Honor Society was called the Nevians. I don't even know.

The Nevians. Oh, because that's where he's from. Because he was born on the island of Nevis. Wow. Yeah, they were all in. Hamilton, Hamilton, Hamilton. Wait, did you catch any of that, like, growing up? Oh, they had to explain to us why it was called the Nevians.

And, you know, they would go out of the way to give us a little bit of the Alexander Hamilton history. You know, I don't know if they either didn't tell us much about the duel or maybe I was just high school kid not really paying attention. So I fell into a rabbit hole about dueling and learned so many things that I did not know. So, you know, rather than a quiz or a trivia history, this segment is just called, I can't believe I didn't. didn't know that. So these are some of the things. Karen, you may know these from... This is how I felt about the molasses thing in Boston, where the molasses, like, massacre.

Like, how have I not heard about this? Yeah. In my whole life. Why has no one told me? So I'm going to give you just a little bit of the background on the beef, right? I mean, we could have a whole show on the beef between these two guys. But, but in a nutshell, the major points are they were rivals, Hamilton and Aaron Burr in the early days under George Washington. And when there was a tie vote for president between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, Hamilton really pushed really hard to give the election to Thomas Jefferson.

And Burr just really never forgot this. Honor was insulted. They went to fight their duel. All right. Now we're getting into the sections here where it's like, I can't believe I didn't know this. All right. So in 1804, they were both living in New York at the time. They, on the morning of the duel, they rode across the Hudson River.

to Weehawk in New Jersey because dueling was illegal in New York. Of course. Of course. I can't believe I didn't know this. Let's just roll a boat over there. Yeah. I love on the one hand, like, the just the really kind of gentlemanly high-minded approach to, oh, we have to obey the letter of the law here before we go and potentially blow each other's brains out.

It wrote it. Well, evil honor it, right? Even though it was legal in, you know, New Jersey, like they, people who participated in the duel, like the people, the other people who were there, you know, a lot of people would sort of look the other way, you know, so they had plausible deniability that they'd say, oh, I didn't see any duel. Right. You have to have a second. Yes. And then you have a doctor on site. And all of them, for almost every duel that happens in New Jersey or outside of New York, they turned their heads around.

So nobody saw the actual duel. Yeah. So no one can say who shot, you know, like they can only deal with it when the gunshots were fired. Yeah. And I had no idea about this level of the sort of wink, winking, you know, legal, not legal aspect of it. And for a lot of these duels, you would talk a big talk and you would accept or challenge. But your seconds sort of behind the scene are trying to sort of smooth things over. They're like, okay, we're going to save face for you guys.

And if your seconds were unable to come to a, you know, a negotiation, you would, in fact, show up and do your duel. I had no idea about the protocol that went on with the, like, the steps of the dueling. Right. If you think about it as like, oh, they dueled, which means that they both, you know, maybe you've seen something in a movie where they, you know, turn a hundred, walk a hundred paces, then turn around and fire. Right. But it's not as if they just like turn on each other and then bang, bang, bang, all the bullets, you know. No. No.

No. They come out and they have a predetermined distance that they measure off ahead of time. You basically, you stand. at the distance and you get the command to go and you have some sort of options like you can raise your weapon you can fire you know if one person misses it's up to you you can basically forego your shot if you want to sort of take the high road or you can go ahead and just open up with the other guy right right yeah i did not know how close together they were they were 10 paces away each that's that's like 30 feet i mean you could

throw a rock and hit the other guy at that distance. I mean, I just imagined, I don't know what I thought. I guess I imagined that there was some reasonable chance that like, oh, you've got to be a pretty good marksman to really have a chance of, but like, no, no, 30 feet away. That's those guns were pretty junky, though. Yeah, true. It was probably still difficult. I knew that they both fired.

Together, their seconds wrote on sort of an after-action report. And there's some dispute exactly over who fired first. There's some dispute exactly over what unfolded. But they each did get a shot off. I didn't know that Hamilton missed badly. He missed 12 feet above Aaron Burr's head. And there is some question about why and what happened here. So what have you guys heard about this?

Well, that he could have A, just totally missed him, or that B, he could have intentionally misfired as a way of trying to bring closure to the duel without anybody any hurt. But we don't really know what he did. At least some of his contemporaries believe that what happened is it is not uncommon for, first of all, they were using dueling pistols. These are pistols designed for dueling. It's not just whatever firearm you happen to have around. So it had kind of like a two-step trigger. So you can sort of like set it and then it's got a real simple touch to fire the shot. There's some speculation that perhaps Hamilton didn't realize or wasn't aware how easy it was going to be to fire that he may have just been raising his pistol and didn't mean to fire. And that's why it was. so far off. It's also possible, you know, that thought maybe he got shot. And then as he was falling, fired his shot, it's unclear. But either way, he missed badly. Yeah. Hamilton, the musical, like, paints it one way. It could be another way. But from the musical, what I learned,

Alexander Hamilton did grow up to become a great marksman. Yeah. So for him to miss, it is a little bit strange. Yeah. And this was not his first duel either. Yeah. So then that brings up the question, like, okay, so could Burr have spared Hamilton? perhaps like if he if you know if the shot sales above his head he could have maybe decided not to he did not spare hamilton he shot him shot him in sort of the lower torso area the bullet lodged near his spine he didn't die right away but he was mortally wounded the the next day after the shooting reportedly burr said that he would have shot hamilton in the heart if he'd been able to see better but there was too much mist in the air so i mean he was not he was not feeling at least

expressing any guilt the next day, but he's like, I wish I had killed him quicker. Some historians also say that he was trying to miss, but then it ended up hitting him. Right. Like, he was doing the same thing of firing away his shot, but accidentally hit him. Who can say? And he also wasn't the best shot in his military career. But why would he say that he wanted to shoot him better than... I meant to do that?

You're trying to save a face at that point. The last thing you want to say to people as a politician is not. I was trying to miss But I effed up And I didn't miss in No, actually I have remorse for shooting him Yeah, just go all in You hit him and be like

Well, I mean I wanted it Some remorse might have been The smarter move for Burr I mean he in the long run In the long run he ended up Not actually being punished But he was He was tried

He was accused of Oh yeah Just destroyed his political career It absolutely destroyed his political career It surely did And as you alluded to you're right. I mean, Hamilton, incontrovertible, the night before the duel, he wrote a letter basically saying, I don't want a duel. I don't approve of dueling. It's against my morals,

but I've got no choice. Like, he's kind of boxed in, you know. Here are two things that happened before the duel that I think really informed this. And I'd never heard of either of these events. One, I did not, I can't believe I did not know that three years before this duel, Hamilton's son Philip was killed in a duel, defense. ending his father's honor at the same place by a supporter of aaron burr i also found out that alexander hamilton was involved in if not the first one of one of the first sex scandals in in political history this is bananas american this blew my mind yes sorry american political history yeah i had no idea that he had a three-year-long affair with a young woman named

maria reynolds her husband knew about the affair and blackmailed him, blackmailed Hamilton, basically, and Hamilton paid him hundreds and hundreds of dollars over the years. And still let the affair happen. Maria and James Reynolds eventually divorced. Her attorney? Aaron Burr. Aaron Burr. Yeah.

It was just these guys were on, I think, just a collision course toward each other. All of these things make this event much more fascinating than I ever thought it was. You know, it was just two dudes on a hill? You know, I mean, I knew that dueling was once upon a time a respectable way to settle matters of honor. It's like such a waste. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.

At that time, they knew, too. I mean, this wasn't like you're dueling with your glove and you throw it on the ground and you have swords and you stab each other. Like, you know, most duels never made it to their pistol. It's true. It's true. Talk, talk, talk. All right. Whatever.

And we can both agree that we're both going to save face because of some thing that happened and you fired in the air. and I fired in the air. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird to think, yeah, in the late 1700s, early 1800s that like dueling is still a thing. Yeah. And they knew it too. Like you're calling a barbaric or whatever, but they still did it because of tradition. Yeah. It's like you didn't become president because not enough people like you. Get over. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you are like worthy of smack talk. You're terrible. Get out of here. Right. Right. So in Collins' notes for this topic, one of the things was animal fighting.

And he was like, well, that's not great, because then all the animals die. It took me a while to find a cool animal fighting thing that is nice to the animal and nice to the humans and just a awesome spectacular event. All right. Wonderful. Feel good. Feel good. It is feel good. A lot of these things are not feel good.

But I found this one feel good. It reminds me of real-life Pokemon. Let me tell you, I found out this thing called the Spider Derby where they, instead of, of, you know, like cockfighting or dog fighting, it's spider fighting. Oh, geez. Yeah, but it's, it's spider versus spider. Okay. It's practiced in a lot of Asian cultures.

Hmm. But in the Japanese culture, explicitly what you call the Kumo Gasson. Okay. Spider fight. Spider fight. Yeah. Is an annual traditional event in a city in a town called Kajiki in Japan. They do it every year for the past 400 years.

Okay. It's an old ritual. and tradition. What it is, it is spider fighting, but these spiders are like celebrities and they're beloved and all the kids love them. And people have them as pets. These spiders are called samurai spiders. There's like this whole kind of like revered, revered sense of these spiders. Like they're respected. They're samurai spiders. And they're probably as big as half of your hand. And they're quite beautiful. I mean, I'm sure if you're scared of spiders, it's kind of scary.

They're black and they have a beautiful, like, yellow and white striping on their, on their belly, on their abdomen. Every year, the kids would bring their spiders or families or grownups would bring their beloved spiders for the spider fight. And what happens is the fighting portion, it's actually pretty simple. So there's a judge who's in traditional Japanese dress. Okay. There is a horizontal wooden stick.

So one spider would be on one end. the other spider would be on the other end the judge will use his hand and kind of cover up in between so that the spiders can't see each other then you know all palm in circumstances like whoa and if he moves his hand and the spiders see each other and then

the winner is the first one to wrap their silk around the other one's abdomen if so say one spider spins web around the other abdomen and that that tribe spider cuts the silk then that spider wins because it escapes.

If one spider flees, then they just flee and the other spider automatically gets a win. So it's very loose and simple rules. Is this natural behavior? They do. They're web-spinning female spiders. They're a little bit more aggressive than their male counterparts.

However, this is the key thing. The judges are super careful to ensure that they're not injured. That the spider fights, they stop before anything happens Throwing the towel. Yeah, or they'll rule one winning spider before anything goes south. So the spiders are alive. Because they're kids' pets.

Yeah, because they're pets. And seriously, like I was looking through pictures of this festival or this event, they're like kids who like draw pictures with crayons and they love their spiders. It's so, it's so cute. And they're like, you know, the pride of their town. And at the end, they would have like different award. They have award ceremony for like best spider or, you know, the round, Robin Torni, whoever wins the tournament, and they get like a big giant...

Best newcomer. Yeah. Booky spider. And it reminds me totally of Pokemon because the thing is in Pokemon, the monsters battle each other. The monsters never die. They get tired, right? So even if you defeat one monster, it just goes back to its ball and it's tired and you have

to go, you know, go to the Pokemon Center and revive them or get them healthy or whatever, no spider dies at the hand of another spider or the human. I can't say the same for the other spider derbies I've read about. Usually it's fight to the death. And I'm not a big fan of spiders, but after seeing this, I was like, oh, that's kind of, that's kind of cute. I wouldn't want to hold one in my hand, but I think I could appreciate this, yeah. So some happy animal. Do you know what, like, what's the lifespan of one of these spiders?

Like, can you be like the grizzled veteran of three battles? Yeah. These spiders sometimes they're like, they're just caught. You can buy them, but it's not like a special. you know, breed that you got to invest. Yeah,

yeah, there's no paperwork for the lineage of the spiders. Oh, sired by this GM champion, yeah. Yeah,

previous champion. Wait, Spire lays so many eggs for some spiders. All right. And that's our show. Thank you guys for joining me. I thank you guys listeners

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