Good Job, Brain! - 182: Dress You Up
Episode Date: May 22, 2016Strap on those jodhpur pants, dust off those epaulets, and it's time to suit up for this week's episode on uniforms and costumes! Find out exactly why Mario sports his classic overalls getup and has h...is signature mustache. Take Dana's non-uniform uniform quiz, and peak into the high-tech world of tracking Disney's gigantic costume empire. Goofy military uniform inventions, camouflage, and blunders & bloops in sport uniforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, Sassy School of Scon, scoffing, scallywagg scholars.
Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast.
This is episode 182.
And, of course, I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your
wise and wily, wisecrackers wailing about Willow Wisp's and the Nintendo Wii.
I'm Colin.
I'm Dana.
And I'm Chris.
So I'm back.
Yay.
Hello.
I was absent for the previous episode.
But I was here in spirit because, of course, I recorded a trivia question for you guys.
Yeah.
We're able to answer.
I was very excited.
Hilariously, just in case you recorded another episode while I was gone,
I actually recorded a second trivia question that you guys haven't heard.
So even though I'm here, we'll just, we'll just play it and we'll just pretend for a second that I'm not here.
We won't look at you while it plays.
From the Chris Kohler vaults here.
Hello, good job, Brain co-hosts, and hello to you out there at home.
I am still on the East Coast of the USA for today's show, and I am thus delivering to you this remote trivia experience.
This week, I am in my home state of Connecticut, which boasts.
various firsts. It's the birthplace of the Frisbee, the Colt 45 handgun, and dental anesthesia.
So here is your trivia question. Louis' lunch, established in 1895 in New Haven, Connecticut, is the birthplace of what?
I know.
Yeah. We've talked about this, I feel like. Go ahead.
It is the original hamburger.
I don't know. We'd have to listen to.
to the answer to find out.
I believe that's right.
From what I, from past Chris, and from what I remember, it's like, it's a different
version of a hamburger because you use like sliced white bread instead of buns.
And then you put it in a weird little, like it looks like a little burger torture device.
Like you sandwich it in like a cage and then put it in a fire.
Well, that's what I think of this.
Let's find out.
Hi again.
I hope that wasn't too easy for you.
Now, to recap, I asked,
Louis Lunch, a restaurant established in 1895 in New Haven, Connecticut,
is the birthplace of what?
The answer is, the hamburger.
Yay!
Which it says it invented in 1900 for a customer who wanted a meal he could take on the go.
Louise Lunch grinds the meat fresh in their basement every day
and cooks the burger patties in a vertical cast-iron flame broiler.
Like, imagine a...
a sideways toaster with fire.
The burgers are served on toasted white bread with onion and cheese, but no ketchup.
There is no ketchup anywhere in Louis' lunch.
Thanks for playing, and I will see you guys soon when I get back.
They don't serve fries there?
They don't serve fries there.
You're back!
I am back.
Sooner rather than later.
Here I am.
The magic of radio.
No, it is.
You can find Vries.
video of this, but it's a patented design, actually, so nobody else can do it because they built
these old, these old cast iron broilers.
They were new, you know, in the 1800s, but they're old now.
They use like a cheddar cheese, like a sharp cheese spread and onions and white bread,
but big signs everywhere saying no ketchup.
They don't have ketchup.
They don't have to get any ketchup.
Yeah, very different experience, to be sure, but it is the first, it is the hamburger sandwich.
There are a lot of, some customer needed something on the go.
Right.
The ice cream cone.
Yeah.
The sandwich.
The sandwich.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of lazy people around.
So I have a cool tidbit from the Twitterverse, from our good job brain Twitter,
Benjamin Driggs.
Hopefully that's his real name.
Benjamin Driggs.
He sent a video of this thing, but I want to ask you guys first.
What kind of animal is the Portuguese Mano War?
I know.
It's a jellyfish?
Yeah, jellyfish?
It looks like a jellyfish.
Oh, okay.
Technically, it is...
It's a dog.
They also call it a Portuguese water dog.
It's the same.
The Obamas have gotten.
Obama and sunny.
Yes.
They're syphonophonophores, or syphonophores.
Ciphonophores?
Siphonophores
It is not one animal
When you see a Portuguese man-of-war
It's not one jellyfish
It's like a colony
It is a colony of many organisms
Built together
To look like a jellyfish
Isn't that crazy?
Like a jellyfish
Yeah, it's like a Voltron
Of these
A colony of zoids
So they're not related to jellyfish
They resemble a joltron
a jellyfish.
Yeah.
I mean, when you go up
the genius species
that they're the class,
like they kind of all belong
the same animal,
like the hydra.
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
But this is a collection of different animals,
which is weird because it looks like one,
it looks like one clear dumpling
and some tendrils.
It's a good survival strategy.
Yeah.
It's like a jigsaw puzzle.
Yeah, like so, so like some of the zoooids
in one part of the Portuguese manor
is like in charge of this function
of the whole colony.
And then this one is in charge of another, you know, function.
I look like an eyeball. I look like a tindrel.
Thank you, thank you, Benjamin, for sending that in.
All right, well, we have a couple of trivia tidbits, but let's jump into our official first general trivia segment.
Pop quiz, Hot Shot.
And you guys have your barnyard buzzers ready.
I have two random Trivial Pursuit cards here.
I got Silver Screen and Trivial Pursuit Genus 4.
Okay.
Let's do silver screen.
I don't think we've ever done a...
Are these the old movies?
These are old silver screen.
I think you can get some.
Let's do it.
They're not the old.
Let's do it.
All right.
Blue Wedge for setting.
What city was the setting for Blade Runner?
Colin.
Los Angeles.
Correct.
Blade Runner is always...
Yeah, it's a trivia.
Pink Wedge, what did Mrs. Doubtfire win its sole Oscar nomination for?
Oh.
Dana.
Makeup?
Correct.
Seems appropriate.
Oh, dear.
Yellow Wedge for OFF, not sure, box office.
Yeah.
What actor wrote a first novel titled Kid Andrew, Cody, and Julie Sparrow?
Actor wrote a novel.
Kid Andrew Cody and Julie Sparrow.
Kid Andrew.
Oh.
I don't know about these actors right now.
This actor wrote a novel.
This actor.
we had in trivia last week
and we didn't know.
I mean,
not that it helps you listeners.
Oh, wait,
who was that?
No, but it would help us.
He was in a sweet
smell of success, Colin.
Oh, Tony Curtis?
Yes, it is.
Kid Andrew, that's
Jamie Lee Curtis's dad, right?
They're related.
Yes.
Okay.
Like a silver wedge, gray wedge.
Where was the silver chalice first used?
What?
So, wait, what's that?
Where was the silver chalice first used?
Is that in quotes or anything?
Nope.
What a weird question.
Is it capitalized even?
No?
Nope.
Where was the silver chalice first used?
I don't know.
What's the category?
It says O.N.
Like maybe on location or something.
Yeah.
You know, don't think movies.
Okay.
Just think we're, yeah.
Oh, like.
England.
No.
Egypt.
You're closer.
The last.
Supper.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Huh.
That makes sense.
All right.
That was a first time somebody invented a silver chalice was the last
Yeah.
That seems.
It's in the movie.
Yeah.
In the movie.
Right.
Is the answer like the movie the last supper?
Is it italicized?
Nope.
It's not italicized.
And the other answers that are.
Okay.
Then I have no idea.
Yeah.
Weird.
What a weird question.
All right.
Teal web.
for pro production what bible epic mark paul newman's screen debut oh whoa bible epic
the ten commandments no bible this is a terrible card i was going to guess ten commandments i don't know
the answer is the silver challenge oh yeah come on now that's just wait i i i can't even
a piece of together. Okay, so palm him in.
Oh, okay, well, you know what?
Now, that's a movie. To be fair.
To be fair, like, you're not supposed to be just reading through the questions on the card.
True, but, okay. But still, yeah, they're getting a little lazy there.
No idea what the, yeah, okay.
That's a movie because that's Italica.
I'm guessing that was a movie about Jesus.
All right. Last question.
Okay.
Who did Jose Ferrer portray in The Greatest Story Ever told?
Chris
Jesus
No
Good guess
Good guess
It's Moses
No
And it's Jose Ferreira
I think
Oh
The silver chalice
Yeah nice
Nice
It is another biblical
Judas
No
It is Pontius pilot
Okay
Oh okay
Okay
You guys want a silver
Scream
That's what you get
You know
I mean now we know
Why we don't do silver scream
Yeah
All right
Eish
We need to watch our Bible
I don't understand.
Yeah, seriously.
I don't even think I've ever learned that reference about the Silver Chalice.
Like, I think the first appearance of the Silver Challenge.
Like, I know.
I would have guessed Indiana Jones, but I was like, that was a wooden cup.
Right.
Well, I mean, they're connected because they're both looking for the grail.
I mean, that's the, yeah.
Right.
That's the idea.
Yeah.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What a messed up, trivial pursuit card.
Oh, yeah.
Weird.
All right.
Well, good job, brains.
I bet.
I bet people who are more.
familiar with the Bible. We'll be like, what?
You guys are going to get some um-actually over all movies.
Um, actually, us knowing or not knowing.
We don't know. We don't know. Somebody will explain it.
Oh, yeah.
So I suggested our topic for this week, and I want to show you guys what inspired it.
So this was just a few days ago. A soccer team in Spain, this is a lower level team,
C.D. Palencia. They rolled out their new, uh,
uniforms. And I have a photo here for you guys. These are printed uniforms that look like
the, like, the musculature below your skin, right? So it's like if someone's like their skin is
transparent. Exactly. We're removed. Yeah, right. So, and it's really finally detailed. You can see
it's a little, it's a little creepy. It's a little creepy. I have to say it's a little creepy,
but I think it did its, it did its purpose, which is it got them all over the internet, all over
the news. We are now talking about C.V. Palencia, a club I did not even know,
existed, you know, just a few days ago. So they're pretty cool. And, you know, it kind of shows
like what you can do now with like screen printing and fabric technology. Yeah. But that got me
to thinking about we had never really done a great deep dive on uniforms and, you know, more broadly
speaking, like costumes and clothing with a purpose. So I thought that would be a good topic
for us to dive into this week. All right. This week, let's play dress up.
I always
I always enjoy being my love.
I don't do too much of it.
I love for your body.
I always enjoy being able to do video game stuff
on Good job, Bram.
We don't do too much of it.
It kind of came up like, oh, what if we talked about
what video game characters wear
and why they wear those things?
And I was like, oh, right,
We ever do the story of why does Mario look like Mario?
It's not because he's a plumber?
It's a really interesting story.
No, that is, that was determined afterwards.
Mario is a plumber because he looks like a plumber.
But why does he look like a plumber?
Okay.
That is the question.
So some quick back story.
We are, of course, talking about the Mario of the Super Mario Brothers games.
He was created for the 1981 game Donkey Kong.
That was his first appearance.
The quick backstory on this is that there was a game, an arcade game by Nintendo called Radar Scope.
It was like a Space Invaders type game.
And Nintendo of America bet very big on this game.
So they made a whole lot of them for Nintendo of America.
And they put them on a boat.
And then the boat took, you know, three months to get to America.
By the time the boat arrived, Radar Scope was not so hot anymore.
And they had a whole lot of arcade games that they could not sell.
They were not going to make a lot of money.
I thought you'll say the boat capsized.
They're now lost in a lot of radar scopes, and they just had lots and lots of radar scopes, and they couldn't do anything with them.
And so they call back to Japan kind of in a very bad way.
Like, can you make us a game?
You can send us the game and we can print it on.
Because basically, you had the arcade game, you could take out the ROM chips and the board and put a new game in it.
You could replace, you could slap a new sticker on the side and everything would be okay if somebody could create a game using that same hard.
that would be better.
And Nintendo was like, well, everybody's busy right now, but this guy, Shigeru Miyamoto,
he's the only game designer who's free right now to, like, make you a brand new game
from scratch because you messed up.
Also, he's never made a game before.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's how high priority it was.
Yeah, basically.
Right.
It was like, yeah, let me dig you out of your hole.
Miyamoto initially started working on a pop-eye game because it looked like Nintendo was
going to get the rights from Universal, or, sorry, King Feature Syndicate, I believe, is the company,
to get Popeye.
But then that fell through.
And so Miyamoto was like, okay, well, I can't do Popeye.
But what if I take that same love triangle grouping of characters?
Oh, my God.
Yep.
We've blown Karen's mind, everybody.
Donkey Kong is Brutus.
Yeah.
Donkey Kong is Pluto.
Exactly.
And then the lady is all of them.
Yep.
And then Mario is Popeye.
And instead of spinach, he grabs the hammer and becomes, you know, superpowered.
Initially, he wanted to call Mario Mr. Video, thinking that he would be like the star of all Nintendo's games.
But later, he called him Jumpman, because that was, it was after Pac-Man, basically, because Pac-Pak-Man, as in Pacu-Paku-Paku is the Japanese sound of eating.
And, of course, this followed Walkman, which was very popular in Japan at this point.
It had come out in the late 70s.
But the idea was verb man, walk man, jump man.
And then Nintendo of America was the one who named him Mario.
It was after the landlord of their business park.
But we're here to talk about costumes.
Mario is a weird character, right?
Yeah.
Like it doesn't make any, it's like, he's not like an adventurer.
He's a dude.
He is like overalls in a weird floppy hat.
And like, where did this come from?
Yeah, it doesn't seem like this is part of his job description.
Right.
This story really gets to like the gene.
of Shigeru Miyamoto as an early designer of video games because he had this innate understanding very early on of like the limitations of game design.
Where do I put my priorities?
And he designed Mario as the perfect character for a low resolution video game screen of the time.
So Mario has a hat.
Why?
Well, he reasoned.
If Mario were to jump off a platform, his hair would have to fly upward because that's,
It's realistic, right?
Now, most video games just wouldn't deal with this at all.
I mean, they would go one of two ways.
One, waste precious pixels and animation and code designing it so the guy's hair flies up when he falls.
You could do that.
Number two, helmet of hair.
You know, you could do it that way.
Miyamoto figures out the third way, which doesn't waste resources and looks better, which is just give him a hat.
Right, right.
Right.
Mario has a giant nose.
Mario has a big, bushy mustache.
Why?
There's not that many pixels to play with, and it's really difficult at this time to give a character a mouth.
Because you can go one of two ways.
You can give him a...
You can draw a mouth, but every character is going to look like the Joker.
I mean, if you see, like, old Atari games and stuff like that, if the character has a mouth, they look like a horror doll.
It's just like a single pixel row.
Or, you don't give a mouth at all, and everybody looks like Hello Kitty.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Neither of these are good.
Miyamoto gives him a mustache because I'll just give him a big bushy mustache that covers up where the mouth would be.
And it also showcases the nose.
It gives him a nice big nose because, yeah, exactly.
So you can see he has a face.
He has an expressive face.
Other video game characters at the time, to the extent that there really even were humanoid characters in video games,
there really weren't a whole lot at that point, their face was like a couple of pixels.
It was just, you know, it was nondescript.
And then finally, Mario wears overalls.
Now, the game takes place in a construction site in an unfinished building that Mario has to climb.
He was originally a carpenter before he was a plumber.
So the overalls kind of make sense.
But again, the costume is picked for gameplay reasons.
So if you give him overalls, then his torso is red and his arms are blue.
And he doesn't have to be dressed in like a 1970s rainbow.
shirt to get that right a baseball jersey
sense that he would wear overalls which would change the
coloration now you can see his arms so that's it I mean Mario is designed
as a character purely all of the design elements are there
so that he would stand out well on a low resolution video game screen
the hat the mustache the nose the overalls but it translates so well to
not real life but like it translates so well through the iterations of Mario
just like that overall look in the hat and then and they
put the little M on it now.
Right, right, right.
And they've added a few details here and there.
But it's almost the same.
Right.
It's funny.
I think when I saw his overalls, I was like, he looks like a carpenter more than a painter
or a plumber.
That's what I thought.
Initially, he was like a carpenter.
They usually have the sleeves on their overalls.
Yep.
Well, he became a plumber because with the game Mario Brothers, that's where they added
in the pipes and the turtles.
Underground.
Yeah.
So I ran the iconic beta breakers race today in San Francisco.
It's a, it's like a.
race, but it's really a big party.
There are people who run it, they run it, you know, not in costume.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I saw so many Mario's today.
So many Mario's because it's so, it's so iconic.
And then sometimes it's with Luigi, sometimes it's a group of people.
There's Walo, you know, Mario.
Sometimes Mario is naked.
So, oh, nice naked Mario costume.
Nope, nope, this is just what I look like.
That's one of the things.
It's the Bader Breakers.
There are a lot of naked people
I saw this Mario and it was all black
leather and yeah, you know, I'm like,
hey, way to go, Mario.
That's how I knew it was Mario.
I personally dressed up as Sonic
for this race. I usually dress up for
all of the beta breakers and I also dress up for
all, basically all the races
I run. I'm in an elaborate costume
because most of the races I do is
in Disney World and Disneyland
and I want to talk
about something I'm super excited
about that I learned
about
Disney and costumes.
So throughout
Disneyland, Disney World, and also on the
Disney cruises and all the other
parks around the world, there's
probably a hundred million
dollars worth of costume that Disney
has. Oh, sure. And
all together, there's probably
three million garments
and accessories
in use. In this, you know, and
when I say costume, you're thinking about like the big Pluto, but I'm also talking about like
the cast members there, the people who work there, you know, because a lot of their uniforms
are themed to, you know, your fantasy land is like a whimsical thing and your star tour's
outfit is more like futuristic.
Like the main street, 20s, like yeah, yeah, yeah. And so those are also costumes too. That's a lot
of inventory that Disney has to deal with on a daily basis, hourly basis.
Make sure somebody doesn't drive home in the Pluto suit.
And they actually, nowadays, they're really elaborate.
Like, some of those costumes, if you look at the costume evolution of some of those, those big costumes from, like, the early days, they're kind of nightmare fuel.
You know, it's like a guy's face is pain white with big ears and it's just kind of creepy.
But now they're to a point where, like, it doesn't have to be necessarily a human size.
Like, your head isn't necessarily the character's head.
You could be in a giant costume, and the person in it has screens, and they have, like, remote
control that they can move eyes, move hands.
Even, like, there's the more advanced versions of Mickey Mouse, they can listen to what you say
and they can talk because there's someone who's in a controlling room.
They can control the hands.
They can control blinking.
Does it modify the voice to sound like Mickey Mouse?
It does.
That's amazing.
It's pretty high-tech.
Like I said, a hundred million dollars worth of costume.
And what is so genius about the Disney company is that in 2011, they implemented a system.
Every single costume has an RFID tag in it.
And RFID, just quick recap, is a radio frequency identification.
So it uses electromagnetic fields to track and identify things in,
Kind of like a smallish space.
It's not GPS where you're beaming a satellite,
and you're like, oh, this person is in England.
You know, this is like within the parks,
within locally, you can track things.
They're all around us.
All around us.
Your employee key card that you go into doors is RFID.
Your toll pass and your car is RFID.
And this is a very, very big deal.
Because when we're dealing with three million different pieces,
in different cities or on a cruise ship,
And you need to know, oh, no, I need Pluto's head.
Yeah.
Or there's some going to be some kids having night here.
They can identify and track exactly where that Pluto head is.
It's just like on Star Trek.
It's like, you know, locate for me Pluto's head.
So can you imagine before, say in the 80s, 70s with all of these costumes, all of these, all the people who work at the parks, all of their uniforms, it's manual.
tracking by hand where the shirt is,
where is the, you know, the pair of shoes,
you know, the pair of pants that you have to wear for fantasy land.
All manual.
In the 1990s, they implemented, which is a better step with barcode.
But then you still have to have a bunch of people scanning stuff every day.
In Disney World, back in the barcode era,
25 workers scanned the label of every garment that's checked in or out.
and it took about 9 to 12 hours to complete.
Now it only takes one or two people and it takes an hour with RFID.
So with RFID, you have readers and it just automatically reads it and it sends that information to a database.
So RFID was implemented in 2011 within a year.
They helped reduce inventory counting time, just keeping inventory from 180 hours.
To two hours.
Whoa.
Because you just have a reader.
You set up a tunnel and things pass through and just read it.
Just like that.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
So you can just look at a list and be like, okay, what's in here?
Okay, great.
And so this is kind of the process.
So if you work at Disney, you go to wherever you store all the costumes and the stuff,
you pick out your outfit for that day that you need.
And you just hang in on a kiosk on a rod.
And then automatically, blip-blib-blib-blit knows exactly what you're checking out.
It's almost like a library book.
You put on your costume, you do your shift, you come back.
All you have to do is throw your uniforms in the laundry chutes.
There's readers in the shoots, goes to the laundry service automatically.
And hopefully it yells at you if you're missing something.
Exactly.
Well, they actually, I think they take it out of your paycheck.
Oh, automatically, too, because it's all done automatically.
Of course, of course.
And then so, you know, the RFIDs have to also withstand laundering of the clothes, too, right?
It eliminates so much error, too.
Because before, when people are like, you got one, sure, and two, sure, and whatever, someone's going to make a mistake.
Yeah, so that's the tech world of managing Disney costumes.
So next time you go to a park and you see Pluto, there's an RFID tag somewhere hidden on his head, probably on his shoes and on his body suit.
It makes sense.
Everything is tracked.
That makes so much sense, yeah.
Another place that they do use RFID, they use RFID a lot in theme parks, but in Disney, in particular, if you're in Disney World, those soda machines, you know, like in those restaurants, you go to soda machines and you're like, oh, I'm going to have Diet Coke or I'm going to have whatever.
Like the self-service?
Yeah, the self-service one.
They're technically not really self-service.
So to prevent people from using the same cup and refilling their sodas, like, you know, same money, all of the soda machines are RFID controlled.
So you can buy a cup
That only allows six refills
There is an RFID tag
At the bottom of the cup
Oh maybe I don't know
I've never seen one of these
It will not
It's not in Disneyland
It's only in Disney World
So it will not dispense soda
Unless it you have
Oh my goodness
And it counts exactly how many refills you get
Right right
So you know
My mom
I mean that part's easy
I just can't believe
They put an RFID
Amazing cup
What if you're mixing soda
Is that like one refill to your reex?
That's true
I don't think you can
you can mix your frank and soda.
I don't like the way you think, Dana.
Oh, I like, I like, uh, Franken soda.
Is that cool?
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All right.
Well, we've already touched a little bit on video games and sports and costumes for Disney.
I will cover maybe the last base here, which is military uniforms.
Yeah.
So just so much, such a rich area of trivia study.
I've put a quiz together for you guys about kind of a grab-bag quiz about military uniform trivia.
Current?
or in the history?
It'll be the entire history, let's say,
although it's really concentrated
in just the last couple hundred years.
All right.
We'll start off with a two-part question here.
I think the first part of which should be fairly easy.
We'll warm you up, guys, with this one here.
So get your buzzers ready.
You can buzz in here.
So what do you call the little,
the fringy, frilly things on the shoulders
of some old-timey, you know, military regalia uniforms?
I think you guys all buzzed in,
but I think Karen had it first on the draw there.
Epilets.
They are epaulets, yeah.
You still see them.
I mean, there are still, you know, in today's military, there are uniforms that have them.
They're, I don't know, they strike me as old-timey, I think.
I don't know about you guys.
What are they supposed to do?
It's, it is really almost entirely.
It's just decorative.
It's like a mark of rank.
It's, you know, just to be, they don't really serve a functional purpose, at least not anymore.
Oh, tell people.
It's, yeah, who's the big, you know, who's the head she is there.
They're like shoulder pads.
Yeah, they're like shoulder pads.
It makes you look bigger.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Draws your eye.
So the second part, what does epaulet mean?
What is epaulet?
You can probably guess what language it comes from.
Karen.
So shoulder armor, I know, is paldron.
So there's the piquet.
Oh, yeah.
You're on the right track here.
Like little shoulders?
That's exactly what it means.
Yeah.
Pulling it out.
Excellent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's French.
It means little shoulders.
Epilette's little shoulders.
All right.
We've had this question before in public quiz.
This one has come up.
The Civil War, the American Civil War, you know, sometimes poetically called the Battle of the Blue and Grey.
Yeah.
Which side was which?
Which side was which?
Which side was blue?
Which side was gray.
Dana.
North is blue.
Yeah.
South is gray.
Yes.
That is correct.
The Union, the North was blue and the Confederacy was gray.
Yeah.
Sort of the standing army had already been using kind of blue uniforms before the Civil War.
So, you know, they sort of.
carried that through. The Confederacy was a, there were a number of reasons, but they were a little
more homegrown. They kind of had to make do with what they had. In the real early days of the
Civil War, it was kind of haphazard. Like, you know, it was not necessarily as standardized as either
side would have thought. I mean, there was like friendly fire. Sometimes you're shooting at the
wrong guy because you know, yeah, no, I'm serious. It was like, it was, yeah. I did read at least
one source says that sometimes the Confederate troops, if they had, you know, from slain Union soldiers,
take the uniforms and then, like, boil and bleach them, basically, to leach the color out
and then use it as, like, a lighter color uniform.
Yeah.
What is the most notable feature of a piquel halber?
This is a German word, a pico helba.
Can you spell it?
Oh.
Chris has a guess.
It's the big old spike on the top of the German helmet.
Chris has it, yes.
It is what is popularly or sometimes commonly call it a Kaiser helmet.
Yeah, yeah.
The German-style, originally Prussian helmet with the big old spike on the top.
It does not seem very practical.
You know, as a kid, I always imagined, like, oh, that's like your, that's your weapon of last resort.
Yeah.
It's like, you know.
Headbutt a dude.
You know, you got, that's what I always thought.
No, it wasn't really meant.
It was bad ass.
It was called the Kaiser helmet because it was really popularized by Kaiser Wilhelm I, who wore it, you know, famously and gave his name to it.
It was not very functional.
I thought it was for, like, easy storage of your sandwich rolls.
You just stick it right on top.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, like a kevah.
The Pika helmet.
Related to rhinocerite.
Or, like, unicorn.
Yeah.
I mean, I found out rhinestones really are related to the Rhine River.
I wonder if.
Who can say?
Who can say?
The closest, well, it did actually have a functional purpose.
It wasn't really inspired by an animal necessarily.
Like, it would have a, sometimes if you would see the really fancy.
World War I was long.
Sometimes you'll see, like in old paintings or whatever, you'll see in like the full parade version,
they'll have like a horsehair plume coming at the top of the spike.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so that would be the closest thing to a functional purpose that the spike would have.
To make it look pretty.
To hold the horsehair.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
So in the course, yeah.
Not to go too deep here on the, on the picol hobo, but I read that here's how silly it was.
So they come up with this like, you know, metal spike, you know, to be.
intimidating and kind of just er and then they realize like oh you know sometimes when you're out in
battle maybe it's not so good to have this big flashy thing on the top of your head so they came up
with a cloth cover yep to go over the spike not to remove it no right during world war two what
specific item of clothing was popularized by the british commandos
Chris.
Daisy Dukes.
That would be something.
Something, Karen.
Oh, World War II.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
What were you going to say?
I was going to get gas mask.
Oh, no, no, no.
This is a fashionable item, let's say.
Is it the green beret?
It is the green beret.
Yes, Chris has it.
That's right.
Yeah, which is associated, you know, in America, we associate with the Army special forces.
And it is a special forces headgear.
But the British actually had it first.
The British commandos during...
Do they still use it?
The British Special Forces do still use, yeah, the beret.
And around the world, there are a lot of sort of...
There's the Bray.
Yeah, and Special Forces have kind of taken it on.
Yeah, but the British, we owe them a debt for that inspiration.
How are they functional?
They're functional in a warfare sense in that if you're out in the field, they're not going to get in the way.
You know, for instance, like having a giant spike on top of it.
You know, if you're climbing in and out of a tank or a helicopter or whatever, it's just...
And it's also a way of unifying your squad.
It does have a...
designation purpose, right. Yeah, it is to sort of say like, hey, we're all in the same squad, we're all the special forces. But yeah, it's not over fancy. It's just very simple. All right. This one, unless you guys have done a real deep dive on military uniform history, I'm not expecting you guys to know the answer to this. But maybe you will, so I'll give you a bite at it. I'm going to show you a picture here. So listeners, I am showing the crew here a photo of a military gentleman wearing what is called a Sam Brown belt. And this is the wide leather belt across the waist with the diagonal.
leather strap that runs over the shoulder.
Oh, okay. All right. Now, this is, it's a very common visual symbol of a lot of just
kind of military men. It also made its way into like sort of, you see a lot of like dictators.
You'll even see like sheriffs for you wrestling fans. You may remember the big boss man would
wear a Sam Brown belt as part of his costume. Is that Sam Brown? That is not Sam Brown. I will
show you a photo of Sam Brown in a moment. But I want to ask you guys, do you know at all the story
behind the Sam Brown belt? Do you know this is,
Great. All right. Now let me show you a photo of Sam Brown and see if you can guess maybe
the origin. Okay. Here's a photo of Sam Brown. He's a British officer. He has a lot of
medals on. There's a lot of medals on. This is a photo of him as later days. You may also notice
he is missing his left arm. Ah. Oh. He has one arm. It looks like he tucked it in his shirt.
Yes, yes, yes. During the heat of battle, Sam Brown was leading his men. He was charging a crew
reloading a cannon. And today, even though military officers will still sometimes carry a sword,
you know, for decorative purposes, back in Sam Brown's Day, you would actually use that sword
out on the field. You know, it was not uncommon. You're out of guns, your hand-to-hand. And he faced
a opponent with a sword, hacked off his arm. Oh, my God. Lost his arm. So now in those days, when you
had your sword, you would carry it traditionally, you're right-handed, you'd carry it on your left hip. And
so you'd have a little clip that holds the scabbard and you can draw it out. And you could draw it out.
But what he discovered is with no left hand, it was really hard to stabilize the scabbard and reach across and pull his sword out.
So he improvised a solution.
He draped another belt across his chest, clipped it on.
And so it would hold his sword holder, his scabbard.
It would stabilize his scabbard and keep in place.
Yeah.
That's cool.
It was a sword suspender.
Yeah.
And so that's why other people even without not being caught short-handed.
Exactly.
had, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
And pretty soon after, like, it was still good to stabilize it.
His men started in mimicking him, and it really kind of just caught on.
These days, again, it sort of fell out of favor, one, because, you know, in the military,
you don't really carry swords much anymore.
And also, too, they realized that it could also be kind of a liability, like, out in battle
because, like, you could get caught around your neck.
Like, it gives you something else for somebody to grab onto.
Right.
So when you see it these days, it's really just a decorative purpose.
But that is the story behind the Sam Brown belt, which I never knew until.
just recently and I had to share that with you guys. That is interesting. I didn't know what that was about.
Yeah. Well, there you go. Just a little bit of military uniform trivia for you guys.
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We're talking about uniforms and costumes.
And I have a quick tidbit.
to ask you guys, I'll give you three names, and let me know if you know what they have in
common. As I'm reading them out, the third name is the kicker. Should we wait for all of them
or buzz in when you know? Okay. All right. Leo Zelensky. Paul Gamby. And the third one,
hopefully we'll seal the deal. Edna Mode. Colin? They are.
characters from movies
who were costume designers
specifically
they are superhero
tailors
superhero costume designers
fictional and I try
fictional fictional yeah
Leo Zelensky
is from Marvel
and he's kind of he has
his own tailoring shop in New York City
that he helps Spider-Man
and even some of the
villains
they appear in the comic books
they appear in the comic books
Paul Gamby is the DC version
and Edna Mode you might know from
Pixar Disney Pixar's
Incredibles
Oh yes
I tried researching like you know
A lot of the origin of the superhero costumes
Like in the story
How did they get their costume
Right
Right because you know
I don't know if you guys watched
They don't really spend a lot of time on that
No no like you know
Not everybody is a master sower
You know what I mean
And also like the fabrics they have to use
There's got to be somebody
And turns out you know
It's kind of postmodern
They do have a couple of
superhero tailors that's woven into the story.
No pun intended.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't even, that was not intended.
That just happened naturally.
So yeah, Leo Zelensky from Marvel, Paul Gamby from DC and Edna Mode from Incredibles.
That is good.
That is good.
I like the, I like the characters that live in the margins of comics.
Yeah.
Okay.
I have a grab bag quiz for you guys.
It's not exclusively about any genre of uniform, though.
They're just a real grab bag.
So it's not a very uniform quiz as well.
Right.
It's a non-uniform, uniform quiz.
But you know what?
I'm going to start with this question because it reminds me of what Colin just talked about.
You guys buzz in when I finished reading the question and you have the answer.
All right.
All right.
What's the name of the flared hip, tight-legged pants that mounted a motorcycle police wear?
Oh, the flared hip.
They're flared hip.
So, like, inversely.
Yeah, they're not super flattering.
Karen?
Jodpers?
Jod purr.
So in that picture, Colin just showed us.
Like, I got, I was like, oh, no, because he's wearing Jodhpur's in that picture.
That's what he's going to ask.
Yeah.
So Jodhers are, they're Indian pants.
They're from in India for hundreds of years.
Before the 1800s, in northern India, they got really into Polo.
There was Asia, that is a, Polo is a Middle Eastern, Central Asia.
sport. India got really into it. And then when the British were stationed there, they got into
polo too. In the 1870s, the first modern rules game of polo was played in the UK. And fancy
people fell in love with it. Aristocrats students. Winston Churchill was really into it. They loved it
because it trained them for cavalry too. Like you had to ride a horse and do all these fancy
trips. Right? There was an Indian officer, Maharaja. This big guy in India came over. He was
really into polo and he brought his team who were like the best people in India. And they were
from the Jodper region, and he was wearing these pants that he had adapted for polo.
And everybody was like, those pants are quite fancy.
And everybody started wearing them for all of their sports.
And it's named for the region.
It's named for the Jodper region.
Still today, military and police officers, mounted police, they wear Jodper's.
They're made of stretching material, and like maybe it's not so much about the give around
the butt area, but...
It's not as bad, but it's still not the most flattering.
U.S. listeners, here's a PSA.
On HBO, right now, you can watch Troop Beverly Hills if you have HBO.
She wears dadpers.
She wears jodperts.
She does.
You know, one of a good job brain trivia-filled, our favorite movie.
They're a unisex clothing.
Yeah.
Women in the military, early in the military would wear them, too.
Yeah.
You can even turn them around.
Doesn't matter which is the front.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's convenient.
Would you say hammer pants are jodd purses in a way?
No, I think there's.
They're not tight enough around the laid parts, yeah.
It would get caught on the strips, so I would think, yeah.
They're like maybe if parachute pants and jodd purrs got together and had some offspring.
Yeah, maybe it would be a hammer pants.
Yeah.
All right.
What's the name of the traditional tall, pleaded, poofy hat that chefs wear?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, everybody, but Colin.
That's a touque.
Took.
Tuk.
Yes, that is a tuk blanche.
It's the white hat.
Did you like my French?
My French.
My French.
So there's a legend about the tokes, the toks, that says that they have a hundred pleats because it reminds chefs that there are a hundred ways to prepare eggs.
Yeah, baloney.
Really?
That's a main story, though.
It's a nice story.
It's a nice story.
It's a nice story.
Bon Appetit dug around.
They were trying to figure out where this came from.
They couldn't find any, like, the origin story of this.
They interviewed all sorts of experts.
They looked through all sorts of old books.
But that's a common saying?
It's a common saying.
comes up a lot.
I've never heard that, really?
I mean, I don't hang around with a lot of chefs, though.
Every time I look for toke, it was like, the legend goes, there are a hundred, and not every
to take has a hundred pleats.
There are more than 100 ways to prepare an egg.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's a lot more.
Yeah.
But anyway, Atouk is a general word for a hat without a brem.
And in Canada, it's like a woolen hat.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, that is so confusing.
Because I'm like, oh, it's a toke.
I was like, and I'm thinking chef's hat, but they're a, it's a, it's, it's a, it's, it's a
Beanie.
Yeah.
Like, do you guys wear chef hats going snowboard?
All right.
What item of sports clothing was named for a balawick in the Channel Islands?
What's Ballowick?
Yes, I'm so glad you asked.
I'll tell you when you guys.
Colin knows.
That is a jersey.
Jersey.
Jersey, yes.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, like Jersey and Guernsey.
Yes, because we talked about New Jersey and original Jersey.
They're Baileywicks.
Baileywicks.
So it's an area under the jurisdiction of a bailiff.
So Jersey is it kind of a weird spot internationally?
Like it's not part of the UK.
It's not part of France.
There were some treaties that went on with it with Normandy.
They get all of their legal stuff solved by a judge by a bailiff.
It's weird.
But I was like, oh, that word comes up and I had no idea what it was until today.
Is the shirt jersey named after?
Yes.
And how come?
They were known for making these kind of tight-knit sweaters that are pull-over.
were sweaters. They were really good for sport, for fighting, for soldiers. And then it came to
the U.S. and the football outfits needed, like, more protection. So they started wearing the
sweaters. And they called them jerseys. And then Jersey meant any kind of sweater. And then eventually
it meant any kind of sport. Yeah. Finally, Cliff Cleven, the mailman from Cheers.
Yes. Often wore his uniform to the bar. And what style of jacket did he wear? And as the hint,
it was named for a U.S. President.
Oh.
Until you give me the hint, it must be an Eisenhower jacket.
It's an Eisenhower jacket or an Ike jacket.
I've never heard of that.
Yeah, I have an Eisenhower jacket.
What does it look like?
It's just like that very classic old style.
Like you would see like guys working at like a gas station, you know, would wear it.
It's waist tight.
It's very like tailored.
It's roomy but also sharp.
Developed near the end of World War II, President Eisenhower was like, I want these jackets
aren't very practical or neat.
The jackets that people were wearing were, like, kind of restrictive.
They were too long.
They also looked like a little bit sloppy, so he got his tailor to snazz up his jacket.
Oh, he was responsible for it.
He was, like, he was the one who was like, oh, look at me in my sharpener jacket.
Everybody was like, look at me.
I'm a fashion designer slash president.
I thought it was just that like because he wore it, like he popularized it.
That's even better.
And a bit of a micromanager, it sounds like.
bit of a bite. Well, everybody liked it. It was more comfortable and it did look better.
I like it. I like the look. I do. It's my aesthetic, yeah. That's interesting. I didn't
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IKEA.ca.ca. So, Colin, you talked about military uniforms. Thankfully for me, because I have prepared
this entire thing, assiduously avoided the subject of camouflage. Yes. Which is what I want to talk about.
When you hear the word camouflage, your mind probably goes to the same thing, that particular style of sort
of pattern of blobs of green and brown and beige on a yeah um and somebody hiding in the woods
basically in the in the general sense camouflage has been around for a very long time like you
don't need to be a technological super genius to figure out like oh if i paint my boat blue then
it will be slightly harder to see against the blue ocean and in fact the fourth century there are
there are stories of people doing this, of, of militaries, you know, with blue painted boats,
everybody's wearing blue, so that, you know, it's just a little advantage you can get.
Just a little bit harder to see them, right, exactly.
Camouflage, importantly, is not just to hide something.
It is, it is to disrupt your vision.
It is to make you not sure of what exactly it is you're seeing.
For a while, in World War I, they used what was called dazzle camouflage after like risel dazzle-dazzle.
And basically just, yeah, to make you not sure of what it is you're seeing, it doesn't, what they would do is they would take the warships and paint like diagonal lines, right?
All kinds of weird diagonal lines all over the place.
This made the ships, if anything, much easier to see.
You could see that there was something there, but you didn't know.
which way the ship was oriented.
You didn't know how many guns were pointed at you.
Like that was the idea behind it.
Every now and again, you know, maybe on an airplane, you run into somebody who's in military
fatigues.
They're in their Army uniform or their Marines uniform.
But something that you may have noticed if you've seen people traveling in military uniforms
is that instead of wearing the, they are in camouflage, like camouflage is part of their
official, you know, uniform.
They're not blobs anymore.
They're not blobs.
They're pixels.
Digital.
Digital.
Yeah.
They look like old video game characters, basically.
They're going to say, oh, if you've seen them traveling, you'll notice their camouflage now
matches the plane scene.
Right.
Right.
Wouldn't that be great?
You know, I mean, that is coming.
I mean, they are testing a lot of things that use fiber optics that figure out what does it
look like behind me and then
Invisibility.
The fiber optics in the front of me.
Yeah, the invisibility cloak.
Bananas.
Yeah.
No.
No bananas.
You can stand in front of bananas.
Where did the bananas go?
First use of what we would know as pixelated camouflage was in the 1970s.
Oh, wow.
A now retired Army lieutenant colonel Timothy O'Neill, who is still a consultant
and an expert in the field of camouflage.
The problem he was trying to solve was how do you get camouflage to sell?
scale because if you paint an intricate pattern on somebody well that's great for close up
but then they get far away you can't see a person right meanwhile if you take a tank and paint
bigger blobs on it well that's great for super far away but it's not good for up close i see it yeah so
you can't get the traditional camouflage pattern to actually scale appropriately the idea was that
by doing the mosaics of squares you could do micro patterns where you get a
close and you see a whole bunch of little squares and it meshes well with the
background. But then as you get far away, you can also make them into macro patterns. So it's
like a fractal. You know, it's, the, the pattern sort of repeats itself as you zoom out, right?
So that was the idea behind it. I mean, in the, the test that they did, it actually worked. It
actually did blend in better with the surroundings. And it was effective enough that by the
1980s, Canada was the first country to adopt this digital camouflage and put it on everybody's
uniform.
Canada.
Yeah.
And it was called, it was a patented, I believe, process because it's actually illegal in Canada
to use what is known as CADPAT, which is short for, the classic military acronym, which
isn't really an acronym.
It's more like an abbreviation.
Canadian disruptive pattern.
Okay.
You cannot, private citizens cannot use that.
cannot use it.
Interesting.
It is like impersonating a military officer.
Okay.
Use that particular pattern.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay.
The U.S. Marines followed very shortly after with Mar-Patt, Marine
pattern.
Sure.
They switched over fully in 2004.
And the Army was like, oh, we want to adopt a similar, we want something that cool, too.
Arm-Pat.
Ar-Pat.
Ar-Pat.
Yes.
And, yeah, I believe that was one of the abbreviations for one of the things they did.
The Army wanted to adopt this pattern, but they made one very bad decision.
What?
For some weird reason, they decided that it would be cool to just have one color scheme called the Universal Camouflage Pattern, with the idea is like, oh, this color scheme, which was like, it's very light.
I mean, if you see somebody in sort of a very light, like, dusty gray, gray, light green beige, it looks a little more dusty, dusty, like, grassy.
Like, gravelly.
It was supposed to work well in any environment.
And it doesn't?
It doesn't work well in any environment.
Basically, they were just like, we stick out like sore thumbs everywhere.
In the woods, we look tan.
Right.
In the desert.
Gray.
In the snow, we look gray.
The Marines had different color schemes.
They had woodland.
They had desert.
They had snow.
But the Army, for some reason, was like, everybody's same color.
There was a whole lot of blowback.
the Army is already well on their way to introducing a pattern to replace the digital camo.
The thing is, a lot of the blowback, and I tried to find some sort of definitive source in the Internet that would say, like, this camo pattern is better than the blobby camo pattern.
But you have people who are saying, yes, it's absolutely better, and you have people saying, no, it's actually not better.
But a lot of the blowback, which was really about the color scheme of the digital camo pattern.
It's being reflected onto the pattern because people are like, well, I knew those stupid pixels wouldn't work.
You know what I mean?
Like that's kind of like confirmation bias of like, oh, yeah, well, you know, obviously pixels aren't going to make you blend in in the environment.
And so that is the problem.
But the people are like, no, no, no, no.
It's the pixels are not the problem.
The color scheme was the problem.
But the Army tested a whole bunch of different replacements.
They're going back to the block.
Really?
Really.
So the Marines still use Marpa.
the army is going back to the blobs.
I didn't know.
Ah, it's interesting.
Yeah.
Huh.
Still highly debated on the effectiveness of it.
It's got to be so hard to, I mean, like, you could do like a lab vision test, but that's not
simulating a battlefield condition, you know?
I mean, it's got to be really hard.
They show pictures to people, and they see how long it takes them to find the anomaly.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we got one last segment.
Colin serve it up.
Well, I started with an illusion.
to sports uniforms. I will close out with some sports-related
uniforming knowledge here for you guys. Two fun
sports, sort of like sports uniform goof-related stories here.
So the NFL, which is the National Football League for American Football,
last year they rolled out a program called the Color Rush. Okay. And this was in
combination with Nike, one of their major marketing partners. And generally,
when you're watching sports, one team will have a light-colored jersey or uniform.
One team will have a dark-colored jersey or uniform.
Very often, almost always, it's white and some other color, or, you know, variation thereon.
So the NFL decided, what if we had both teams wearing color?
So not white and something else.
We'll roll out big, brassy colors.
And, you know, this is partly to sell more jerseys.
And also because they wanted to just jazz it up a little bit.
So they rolled out of the program for some games later in the season.
season where the teams had come out.
And so there was one game with the Buffalo Bills wearing bright red jerseys and
the New York Jets wearing bright green jerseys, okay?
And it, you know, it sounds very Christmas like, right.
And it looked okay, I suppose, if you're a fan of the teams.
That's right.
Dana has it.
It is not friendly to the colorblind.
So almost immediately, as the game is going on, colorblind viewers are getting on Twitter,
on Facebook online they're like hey NFL it looks to me like both teams are wearing the same jersey
I cannot tell what is going on here because they're the same level of saturation of the colors
it's like more common in men it's and it's a big percentage yeah because more men are colorblind
yep that's right it's they say it's about six percent and that's six percent of yeah yeah
and this is red green colorblindness of course but there are other types of color blindness right
so the nf i mean it amazes me it amazes me for for an instant
that makes so much money from television that, like, from the concept stage all the way
through execution, nobody at any point raised their hand and said, hey, this is a bad idea
because this is a televised sport. And to me, at least, the irony is that part of the reason
in football teams had white jersey, color jersey, originally was because when the game
was our first televised on black and white TVs, it was the same effect as if you had, you know,
No color vision.
So this year, for this year's color rush games, the NFL has said they are going to make sure.
Well, wait, so it's one game that they can.
It's a series of games.
It's a series of games.
Yeah.
So they'll brand it as a, tonight's a color rush game.
They've said this year, we're going to make sure that they're high contrast.
So all of our colorblind viewers watching at home can enjoy this game, just like everyone else.
All right.
And lastly, I will share a little anecdote here.
So we have talked before about Michael Jordan.
And his jersey number, we talked, I think, on a previous episode, how he wore number 23, he retired, he came back, he had to wear number 45 for a while, he eventually switched back to number 23 famously.
But I want to tell you guys, there was one game, there was one single game in Michael Jordan's basketball career, where he wore neither number 23 nor number 45.
This was a game in 1990, the Chicago Bulls for whom he played.
They were playing the Orlando Magic.
Someone in the Orlando Arena, prior to game time, made off with Michael Jordan's jersey
out of the locker room.
They were traveling.
They were on the road.
If they were in Chicago, it would have been a little bit easier to wrangle another Michael
Jordan jersey.
It just went missing.
I mean, it's not like the locker room is just, you know, open to the general public.
Inside job.
Well, inside arena job.
Yeah, right.
Definitely.
It definitely seems to be there was an inside job.
But whoever took it, it was missing.
So they looked around, they interrogated some people.
They couldn't find a jersey for him.
This is my favorite part of the story.
They went out into the crowd, into the stands, looking to see, like, hey, maybe somebody here has a jersey that will fit Michael Jordan.
Oh.
Not looking for the stolen jersey, looking for a replacement.
Some kid, like, so excited.
They could not find one that was big enough to actually put on Michael Jordan.
So luckily, the equipment manager and the team manager traveled with, for just this circumstance, a blank jersey with a number but no name on it on the back.
So it was a generic number 12 Chicago Bulls jersey.
And so for that one game, Michael Jordan wore a jersey number 12, no name on the back.
And they said he was in a really bad mood after.
I think what happened.
I mean, it's never been confirmed what happened.
But there are rumors that the jersey surfaced later in the other locker room, you know.
Well, I mean, this is pre-Ebay.
Oh, so it was a prank.
I imagine, my guess is someone did it either just to kind of stick it to Jordan
or maybe to hope and sell it on the black market and then started sweating when they realized,
like, oh, I'm not going to make it out of the arena with this jersey.
Right, right, right.
It's unclear exactly what happened.
Dana, the Bulls lost that game to answer your question, although Jordan did score 49 points.
Wow.
I can see it pretty.
He didn't sign autographs after the game, which he normally did.
He was, he going to just get on the, get on the flight back to.
It did.
It disrupted his mojo.
So, yeah, that's a very, to me anyway, as a basketball fan, an interesting little footnote to the, what was Michael Jordan's jersey number saga.
Well, let's not feel too bad because I read that Michael Jordan makes $100 million a year.
Now, he's not even playing anything.
Yeah, from his marketing, from his licensing deals, a hundred million dollars.
Those underwear commercials.
Oh, Haynes, yeah.
So, you know, what's interesting, I mean, speaking about, you know, marketing and uniform, so, you know, Karen, you know, so he has his own, it's the Jordan, which is a sub-brand of Nike, right?
So Nike does all the manufacturing and everything.
But, you know, there are Jordan athletes as opposed to Nike athletes.
And there are Jordan brand, you know, basketball players.
And so, as you may know, Michael Jordan is now the primary owner of the, uh, you know, um, you.
Charlotte Hornets, basketball team.
So what the league made him do, basically, was put up a wall, you know, kind of like when
the new president comes into office and they have to put their, you know, stocks into a blind
management kind of thing, he is no longer allowed to be involved in choosing what athletes
are Jordan athletes, because before, that could be a really big deal, right?
If Nike's trying to sign an athlete.
Who's currently a Jordan athlete?
I believe, like, Carmelo Anthony.
I believe Carmelo Anthony is a Jordan athlete in the league.
Yeah.
I believe Derek Jeter, I think, was a Jordan brand athlete outside of basketball.
That's not even the same sport.
He put baseball, too.
That's true.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
But, yeah, so these days, like, the NBA players who are chosen to be Jordan brand ambassadors,
like he's not allowed to choose them.
Yeah, because it's like collusion, basically, or interference with a belief matters, right, right.
Conflict of interest, right.
Charlotte Hornet.
Yeah.
Right.
Crazy coincidence.
Yeah.
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