Good Job, Brain! - 183: Eyes on the Prize

Episode Date: June 7, 2016

Winning is nice, but getting a prize for it is even better. So get ready to head to the podium to receive some award-winning trivia! Celebrate the entertainment highs in our almost-EGOT quiz, and on ...the other end of the spectrum, cringe at the entertainment lows in our Razzie award challenge. Find out how scientists cleverly smuggled and hid gold Nobel prizes right under Nazi noses during WWII, and get ready to pin some county fair blue ribbons on to some comically large and record-breaking produce. And Chris dissects more carnival game scams and the story behind a prized Rastafarian banana.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, blockbusting blocs in blouses blogging about blobfish. This is good job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. Today's show is episode 183. And of course, I'm your humble host. Karen, and we are your jazzy puzzlers, guzzling pizza and nuzzling bedazzled buzzers. Haza. Hazzah.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I'm Colin. I'm Dana. And I'm Chris. Those all have double Zs. It looks cool when I write it down. But then... When you say it, it's different. You got to remind people.
Starting point is 00:00:49 All those words have double, yeah, double Zs. A lot of pizzazz. Also, cameo from blobfish, I think about... Yeah. When you say the word blobfish, I think about what it looks like that. Oh, yeah. It just cracks me up. I feel like we actually had a little mini blobfish renaissance in the last few months.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Blomfish is having a moment. Yeah, it was a little bit of a moment. All right. Exciting follow-up. Listeners, if you, and I don't know if you guys remember, last episode on our pop quiz hot shot, we had a silver chalice card. It was a card filled with questions at least. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Two questions. It was filled with questions. I felt like a lot of questions. And it was, um, it was. it was like biblical in theme, and also we're like, what is the silver chalice? And we actually said, probably most people know more about this than we do because we don't know that much about the Bible. I have follow-up.
Starting point is 00:01:42 A lot of people tweeted and emailed and Facebook posted and this email in particular from David, and he said, in your latest episode, dress you up. You all were discussing the silver chalice in the Last Supper. And Dana said, quote, I bet people who are more familiar with the Bible will be You like, what, you guys? We're going to get some um-actuallys. So David says, here is mine. I have a master in divinity.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Both of my parents are ordained ministers. I graduated top of my class in seminary. I won an award for my biblical translations. I had to get a bookcase specifically for my Bibles, and I read the Bible daily. And I have never heard of the Silver Challenge. Either the film or as a biblical reference. There is reference to Jesus's cup in three of the Gospels, but most translations just use the word cup and not chalice. Try to look for it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And he goes, actually, so no, I'm actually from the biblical point of view. All right. Yeah. Wow. Silver chalice seems like some biblical interpretation gone awry. Very Hollywoodized, perhaps. Yeah, yeah. And then I looked up the movie starring Paul Newman, which was in the trivia card.
Starting point is 00:02:55 He was commissioned to make the silver chalice for the last summer. So it was fictional, it was fictional as well. All right. Thanks for doing so much extra research for us there. My reaction as I'm reading down that email, like of his list of accolades, I was like, oh, no. Oh, it's going to be like a slam dunk. Yes. Half the bookshelf is about this.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Had to buy a new bookshelf to hold my many versions. Good job, guys. All right. Good job. Not knowing about stuff. And with that said, let's jump into our first general trivia segment, pop quiz. Hot Shot. Here, I have Trivial Pursuit, 1995.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Okay. What do you mean? It's not, it's the year 19, it's, all the questions are about the year 1995 or this, this hard. We've had one from this set before, I think. Yeah, right. This is about 1935. Okay, all right, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:44 All right. Those 365 days. All right, here we go. Pink Wedge. What outfit looked over 22,000 entries from its, quote, yo, I'm your CEO. contest then selected a candidate found by a headhunter Oh, okay
Starting point is 00:04:03 I don't I don't really get this question I think I know. Is it Monster.com? No. What, okay, a little too early for that. Yo, I'm your CEO and it was there were many, many different
Starting point is 00:04:18 entries and then but then it just picks someone from a headhunter. Like an actual CEO and not a random Is it MTV? No. I wanted to say MTV because like Yo, MTV raps. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 It sounds like something desperately trying to be a youth appeal. I feel like it's, you know what or you don't. It is Ben and Jerry's. Okay. Why did they call it yo, like yogurt? Why did they call it yo? I'm your CEO. Because it rhymes with CEO.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yo, yo, you're CEO. They're about puns, not. Good ice cream, though. Good ice cream, though. It was the 90s. Bad campaigns. Okay, Yellow Wedge. What?
Starting point is 00:04:57 European nation forced CompuServe to block access to explicit news groups. Oh. Oh, it was between Colin and Chris and you give it to Colin. Uh, Germany. Correct. Correct. They're all about blocking access to stuff, even back then. I don't think you could buy Doom in Germany.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah. Doom came out. They don't like bloody video games. They don't. All right, Brown Wedge. What 1995 movie was the first film to feature characters who attend? And weekly, quote, plastic corrosion awareness meetings. Wow, calling again.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Toy Story? Correct. Oh, okay, of course. I didn't remember it was 1995. That's quite a throwaway gag from Toy Story. I don't remember that bad. Orange Wedge, what did Giorgio Armani declare to be the most elegant and intelligent color? Huh.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Dana. Black? Correct. It is black. Simple and minimalist. Teal Wedge. What software billionaire? What software billionaire, billionaire, billionaire?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Billionaire. Billionaire. It's pronounced billiards. It's billiards air. Billion air. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Billionaire. No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Do it. Like a fun new. Okay, billion air. What software billionaire? No. Wow. Whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Very rich person. Gave Jimmy Hendricks's dad an interest-free loan to sue for the rights to his son's music and master discs. Oh. I'm going to give it to Chris. Bill Gates. Incorrect. It's got to be Paul Allen. He's a huge Hendricks fan, guitar fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:45 There were only two software billionaires in the community. Have you guys been to the Experience Music Project in Seattle? No, but I heard about it. It's actually pretty cool. It's like a museum, right? Did, yeah, I mean, in large part or exclusively by Paul Allen. Really? Huge, huge amount of money.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And a lot of his guitars in his personal collection are there. It's pretty neat. I heard it's a really cool museum. All right. Last question, Blue Wedge. What senior PGA veteran teed off a 24-hour cable TV channel devoted to golf? Oh, no. Poor rooster.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Is it Jack McLaugh? No. Is it Arnold Paul? It is awesome. It's like, come on, we all know this name. Yeah, yeah. I'm more sad about the rooster buzzer. You know, we can put a new battery in there.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Well, it's dead forever. All right, good job, brains. Collin, what are we talking about this week? Today. Well, I've had a story that I've been sitting on in my trivia vault for a while, trying to find a way I could work it into good job. In your brain. Yes, in my brain. Not in like a real...
Starting point is 00:07:54 It's not an actual vault. Yeah, not anymore. The first one burned down. It was terrible. Yeah, I lost so much trivia. And then concurrently, we just passed Memorial Day. Memorial Day, remembering people who have performed service to our nation. I was thinking about awards and honors.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I was watching on the news, there was a serviceman that had just, you know, the giant row of the medals pinned to his chest and thinking about how hard it is like, you know, to remember, like, what each little won, all the different colors. So I went and I kind of fell down a wiki hole on the, military awards. And we may have a little bit of that coming up later. We get that in trivia sometimes. We do. Like what is the Purple Heart
Starting point is 00:08:32 for? We do. We do. What award do people win? I was like Right, right. All ribbons and stars. And so that tied into this little trivia story that I had been sitting on, which I will share for you guys a little bit later in the show. And I thought we would open it up and talk about awards, medals, decorations, anything that you earn or is awarded to you. but something around the idea of a prize or something you did to earn it.
Starting point is 00:08:57 So this week, let's keep our eyes on the prize. All I do is win, win, win, no matter what, got money on my mind, I can never get enough. And every time I step up in the field and everybody hands go up and they stay there. Now, when you think of the ultimate prize being awarded to someone who has started a movie, you of course think of the Oscars. But we've had way too many Oscar quizzes. So I want to actually talk about a different award that is given. We don't actually know anything. A different award that every now and again sometimes comes up and crosses through our field of vision
Starting point is 00:09:35 that are given to people who have acted in that year's films, colloquially known as the Razies. The Golden Raspberry Awards to be particular about it. And the award, the trophy itself, is indeed a raspberry, you know, sort of a statue of a raspberry painted with cheap gold paint. It began in 1981, honoring films released in 1980 and honoring what are considered to be the worst movies released over the course of a year. Usually held right before the Oscars. Yeah. The biggest difference between the Oscars and the Razies.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Now, the Razies last year were held in the Palace Theater in Los Angeles. I mean, it's a big deal. Do the winners even show up? So here's the thing. 99% of the time, no, the winners do not show up. But that's only 99% of the time. So this is a quiz about the Razzie winners who graciously, with no shortage of good humor, actually showed up at Razzie ceremonies over the years to accept their worst actor or worst picture or what have you award in person.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, okay. So it's not like the nominees show up and they're awaiting for announce the worst. I hope I'm the bunch. Actually, I mean, I don't think that they tell them that they've won. I think they will, I think they sort of assume that they're going to win and they show, you know, quote unquote, win. And they show up and they accept the board. They have their well-placed sources within the. There have been people who have said, so basically if I say I'm going to be there, you'll, you're going to vote for me.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Right. That seems to be how it goes. But I'm not quite sure. So here we go. So get your buzzers ready. I won't put the rooster into service. He's had a tough day already. The first person to ever show up to collect a Razzie in person accepted the worst actor award for a 1987 parody of spy movies.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Tell me the actor and the film. James Coburn? Incorrect. Colin. William Shatner. No. What's a spy? The parody of spy films released in 1987
Starting point is 00:11:58 generally considered the worst thing that this comedian, actor comedian has ever done. Generally considered one of the worst movies. Always pops up on your list of terrible films. Oh, no. It's not... It must be like a Bond parody. Is it a Pink Pan?
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's not quite a fond of parody. I will tell you, I will tell you the actor, and then you will probably know the movie. The actor's name is Bill Cosby. I was going to say Bill Cosby. And the film is? That was, it was that not Leonard Part 6? It is Leonard Part 6. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I was just thinking. I would know Leonard's Parts 1 through 5. The only reason I didn't say that is I couldn't imagine him actually having enough self-effacing humor to show up and accept it. He actually did show up and accept the award. All right. Yep. Okay, all right Let's shake it off
Starting point is 00:12:48 Okay, I've never heard that movie before I know ghost dad One film Freddy Got Fingered Took home five Razzies for whom Dana Tom Green Who brought his own red carpet to the ceremony That's awesome
Starting point is 00:13:03 This actress accepted her award in person For a comic book-based movie College I believe that was Hallie Barry That was indeed Hallie Berry For Catwoman Exchequerable catwoman So she's been Catwoman and Storm
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah Oh Who would win in a fight? She accepted the award While holding her Oscar for Best Actress in Oscar's Ball Which she'd gotten a few years before There can't be many people who have won both Not a whole lot, no
Starting point is 00:13:30 In 2004, Ben Affleck was nominated For the worst actor Razzie For three different films All of which came out in 2003 All right I know one Well, I was going to get, okay, okay, well, yeah, sure, let's go, let's go around, let's see if you can get a moment. Yes, Deerdevil.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Deardevil, yes, Dana. This leaves Collin with the last one. I know what the last one is. Yep, yep, yep, yeah, that wasn't dogma. Wasn't dogma? Jersey Girl. It's not Jersey Girl. It was paycheck.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Oh, yeah, paycheck, Daredevil, and Gile. It's just a very, like, whatever movie. It wouldn't put it on, like, the worst movies. You know, wasn't that based on that? rolled it all into, you know. I think, yeah, those three in a row, though, you're like, yeah, yeah, all in one year. What are you up to? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Director, director, Paul Rehuvian, accepted the worst picture award for what NC17 film? Karen. Showgirls. Showgirls. I'm a dancer. In 1993, this mustachioed actor, famously mustachioed actor, accepted the worst supporting actor for his role in the film, Christopher Columbus, the did. Discovery.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Worst supporting actor. 93. You said mustacheo? Famously. Tom Selleck is it. Tom Selleck or Tom Scarey. And it's all Tom Skeret. Sometimes Tom Sperrit shaves.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Tom Selleck. Never. Brian Helgeland accepted the worst screenplay award for his work on this 1997 bomb, directed by and produced by Kevin Costner. Oh. Colin. Would that be Waterworld? It is not Waterworld. That was a little early.
Starting point is 00:15:17 That was 94, I think,ish. The Postman? The Postman. Yes. The Postman. Costner did not show up. Yeah. Sandra Bullock famously showed up at the Razies in 2010 to accept the worst actress
Starting point is 00:15:32 award for All About Steve. The next night, she won the best actress Academy Award for what film? Dana. The blind side? The blind side. It was the night before. Yeah. The Razies, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's got the worst actress, best address. Yeah. I think they ensure good publicity if they do it that way. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's how they glom on to the Oscars. Yeah. But then once the Oscars are over, nobody cares about the Razies.
Starting point is 00:15:59 But if it's in the run-up to the Oscars, then it gets that, you know, I should. Final question. A writer named J. David Shapiro, J.D. Shapiro, appeared at the Razies' twice, once to accept the award for worst screenplay for a film released in the year 2000
Starting point is 00:16:18 and then again in the year 2011 to accept the award for worst picture of the decade for the same film that's a towering achievement and what was that film
Starting point is 00:16:30 so I'm asking you what did they what did they say in 2011 was the worst film of the decade going back to the year 2000, 2010 is it like a big
Starting point is 00:16:41 blockbuster movie or is it it was a movie it was a big movie that you've heard of worst movie it was pretty famously terrible hmm the room not the room no it's got to be something yeah it's got it's something that was expensive and bad expensive bad self-indulgent ridiculous the epitome of terrible filmmaking uh 2001 was the original 2000 2000, what's when it came out. Can we get a genre? It was a science fiction film. Karen.
Starting point is 00:17:18 After Earth. It is not after Earth. No, no, no. Sorry. Karen. I'm thinking of the John Travolta one. Uh-huh. God, it's not after Earth.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Beyond Earth? Beyond. Colin? Chris is it Battlefield Earth? It is indeed Battlefield Earth, starring John Travolta. Wow. Worst picture of the decade. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I only made it. I only made it about 20 minutes into that one. I don't think I've watched any of these movies that were... You didn't watch Catwoman? I didn't watch Catwoman. I didn't watch Catwoman. Woo! I just have a quick tidbit.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Before I forget, because I saw this in the headlines. Well, I'm a big... I don't know if you guys, listeners know, but I'm a very big pizza enthusiast. Pizza is my favorite food. Not because of Ninja Turtles, but that really helped. I didn't even put that together. I didn't even...
Starting point is 00:18:10 Well, I think as a kid I watched it. I was like, wow, that's so American. I want to eat pizza, too. Oh, yeah. And then, you know. Do you, like, remember the first time you had, like, pizza pizza? American pizza coming here. Yeah, I remember the day I had my first American slice.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Blondie's pizza on Telegram Avenue. That was my first. That's an intense pizza to start with. And I never went anywhere else. I was like, that is still that moment, just a normal cheese pizza. Oh, pizza's my favorite fruit. I even, like, you know, I've mentioned before I, like, started a whole running club dedicated to, like, pizza and running. And so I had no idea that there are the pizza world championships.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I know, granted, there's contests for everything, but there's, like, the world, it's like the Olympics for pizza. For making it or for eating it. Okay. It's almost like a lot of other, like, the baking competition or the cake competition. So every country has a team. It's like the Olympics where it's not like one event. There's multiple events. So you have to build out your country's team.
Starting point is 00:19:15 So there's like dough stretching. And so you have your dough stretcher who's really good at dough stretching for Team USA or Team Italy or Team France. And then you have your kind of classic pizza cooking competition. You're not classic. And then you have different like, oh, pizza for two and just a lot of events. Karen, how far did you go in the research? Because I have so many questions about dough stretching competition. You know, I went as far enough as until everything was in Italian, I couldn't really read it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Okay. All right. Because all the PR, all the, the news headlines, they're all kind of like reworded PR blast. And like, what are they measuring with the dose stretching? Is it like everybody gets the same amount of dough? I think so. And then you see how much, how big you can get it, no holes. Yeah, I have lots of follow-up questions. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I feel, and I was like, maybe there's a documentary or maybe there's like, they should really broadcast this in the news. Anyways, so you would think Italy, and Italy does win a lot of the events, and they win a lot of the, you know, every year. But this past year, it was France. France won with their Buya-based pizza. Get out of here. Buya base, which is a southern, a provincial, southern fish stew, like a peasanty fisherman's fish stew, flavored pizza. And they won, they beat out, I mean, number two and number three, were Italy but but number one was France and that's a that's a pretty big deal I'm sure they're
Starting point is 00:20:43 not going to let Italy forget it either and then margarita the classic margarita competition Australia took number one so this is like the the California wine yeah and France versus France yeah yeah it kind of felt like that there is such a thing as pizza world championships and then one day I'm gonna go yeah you're gonna go do you know what they win do you have it is they win a pizza gong all right Right. Nice. A big gong. I don't know what it's for.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I have no idea what that means. I just love the sound about pizza gong. It's a massive, one of those massive vertical vertical vertical vertical. Yeah, but like engraved like a pizza maybe? No, it's just like bronze.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I wish it was like a shape of a pizza. All right. That's a pretty good prize award. And they get a free flour, like really high quality flour. Oh. That's nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I don't think it's lifetime. It's a lot. There's a couple handfuls of it. There you go. Good show. brain life next year. At the Pizza World Championship. So if anyone out there connected with the governing body, please hook us up.
Starting point is 00:21:50 No frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Well, Karen, you set me up perfectly. you alluded to the Purple Heart and whom it is for and what it signifies earlier. Yeah. So I have a very short, short little quiz here about some of the just the most well-known American military awards and honors.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I'm going to get wrecked. Well, we'll see here. It was very short, very short. So, yes, I know you have heard of the Purple Heart because you just talked about it. In fact, it is one of the most respected awards you can receive as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces. Two questions. What does it signify? What is the Purple Heart for?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Mm-hmm. Oh. It's, you are wounded in combat. Yeah. Yeah. Broadly speaking, it's injury in the line of duty in combat. I mean, it can be fairly serious, too. Multiple Purple Hearts, too.
Starting point is 00:22:53 You can receive one Purple Heart per incident. Yeah, definitely, definitely. The official full definition is it is awarded for, quote, being wounded or killed. in any action against an enemy of the United States or as a result of an act of any such enemy or opposing armed forces. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, you can receive it posthumously.
Starting point is 00:23:17 A lot of people have received it posthumously. But, yes, it signifies you are literally putting your ass on the line for your country. Who is depicted on the Purple Heart Medal? Who is on the Purple Heart? Is it just based on color? Is it grimace? Grimmis? It is a little more Solomon serious than Grimmis. Is it like an actual? It is a famous. It is a famous American. Is it a president? It is a president. It is George Washington. It is George Washington. Yeah. He is important. He is fairly important. And in fact, the badge of military merit, which was sort of considered the forerunner of the modern Purple Heart was established by George Washington way back when he was leading the Continental Army. And it was a very, very selective award. This
Starting point is 00:24:05 He only gave it out, apparently to only three soldiers from the Revolutionary War. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. So it's, I mean, and of course, you know, flash word to today, it's been awarded just under two million times now. So do you, so is there even say if I get like my pinky blown off? Oh, you get a hangnail? Yeah, or like, I mean, is there a degree of woundedness?
Starting point is 00:24:29 There is a degree of woundedness. Yeah. If you're getting, you know, paper cuts, filing documents. Yeah. They're not going to necessarily consider that. I think that you're like, I don't want to mangle this up, but I think that like your supervisor or your commanding officer like has to sign off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you generally need to be recommended for it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Got it. Yeah, right. Yeah, you don't just like when you come out of the hospital and say, hey, so where's my purple heart? Yeah, right. That's what I thought. One of the few honors and medals higher than the Purple Heart is the Medal of Honor, often called the Congressional Medal of Honor. That is not actually its full technical. name. It is just the Medal of Honor. It is the highest military honor possible awarded by the
Starting point is 00:25:10 president. Only U.S. servicemen and women are eligible to receive it. And it is basically just for outstanding acts of valor. How many versions of the Medal of Honor are there? How many? Well, I'll give you a hint. I'll give you a hint. Not everyone receives the same version. Yeah. There's like a... Chris. Four. Incorrect. Dang. I know there's a silver one and a bronze one, right? There are at least two, because when I did the research on the Navajo Wind Talkers,
Starting point is 00:25:42 there are more than two. There were two different ones that they dot. Also, there are at least two years. Yeah. No, well, three plus. There are three. Magic number. Magic trivia number.
Starting point is 00:25:52 There are three versions. There's the Army Medal of Honor. There's one for the Navy and the Air Force. Oh, this kind of sucks. Coast Guard. I was four. Well, the Marines. Both.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Both the Marine Corps and the Coast Guard received the Navy version of the Medal of Honor, which, you know, is nice, and I won't presume to speak for them. Nobody went home, going, I only got the Navy version. Why is it the Navy version and not just the aquatic soldier version? Right, right, yeah. Did you know it is against the law to wear a Medal of Honor if you have not been awarded it? They take it very seriously. There are a number of laws against who exactly is allowed to do.
Starting point is 00:26:34 the medal of honor what happened what are they going to do they could find you okay yeah uh the the full qualification for the medal of honor is quote conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty takes it seriously said a lot of video game titles medal of honor call of duty yeah they just go through yeah through the army manuals whenever they need uh yeah on the battlefield i know i'm waiting for this uh this year's release of gallantry intrepiditude, yeah. All right, last one, last one.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Who is the only U.S. President to have been awarded the Medal of Honor? Oh. And I'll tell you, it's not George Washington. I will rule one out for you. I think that was Dana. Is it Eisenhower?
Starting point is 00:27:20 It is not Eisenhower. It was a former military man, yeah. It was awarded posthumously, if that helps you. Karen. Teddy Roosevelt. Exactly right. That's right, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He seems like a dim fighting kind of... Intrepiditude. Yeah, it was actually awarded by President Bill Clinton in 2001. Oh, wow. Yeah, primarily for his service in the Spanish-American War. Why did it take so long? Well, you know, I mean, I think... Other stuff to do.
Starting point is 00:27:50 He was like president. It was like, aren't you winning enough for him? Even in death, do you need this? He's on Mount Rushmore. But I did not come here to impugn the spirit. of the great president, Theodore Roosevelt. Oh, they named the teddy bear for Teddy Roosevelt? He's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:06 He has enough awards. They did name the teddy bear for Teddy. He's covered. He's covered. He's covered. So let's loop back around entertainment. Yeah. We can't escape awards so easily.
Starting point is 00:28:19 When I talk about EGOTS, well, we've talked about it before on the show. EGOT is Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony. As of today, as of when I checked, there were 12 people who have gotten the EGOTS. got oh man i thought they're like at least 30 i don't know no it doesn't happen you know people there's varying levels of enthusiasm for this award they're like oh it it doesn't often really encompass the spirit of the of each award like you win for spoken word on a grammy oh yeah it's a lot of its technicalities it's like somebody was saying mel brooks is maybe the first one who really qualified like one for what the spirit of each award
Starting point is 00:29:01 was right so exclusionary yeah it's so exclusive legend goes and this is probably true it seems like it comes up ever that it was coined by philip michael thomas of miami vice he was not the main guy who's the other guy tubs and in the 80s yeah who's the uh who's the main guy crockett don johnson don't johnson wow not don johnson man like i remember george michael but i have no idea So imagine Andrew Ridgley is like, I'm going to get an eGOT. The Andrew Ridgely of police shows. So he got a medallion in the 80s and he'd go around. He said, I'm going to EGOT.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And he had a record out. He would go on shows. You got to watch. He's fascinating. I watched his interview with Johnny Carson. And I was like, yeah, that guy coined EGOT. I believe it. But did he actually get an EGOT?
Starting point is 00:29:52 No. No. Well, he's not even close. He didn't get any of them. He doesn't want any of them, but I like the spirit. He came up with the name. Yeah. He's got a shiny medallion to show for it.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Anyway, I have a quiz for you guys about people who have almost egotted. Oh, okay. Now it's a verb. Egotted. So these people are all one award short of getting an EGOT. And so the way it's structured is I'll give you the three awards that they've won. Like maybe they've won a lot for the Emmys or something, but I'll only tell you one of the titles that they won for.
Starting point is 00:30:25 for the Emmys. And then you tell me who it is based on these three things that they were in. Okay. And do we have... In enough that they won an award for it. Okay. Oh, do you want to write down? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Let's get it. Actually, okay, yeah, let's do that. So these people are one award away from having... They're a go. They're gots or toes. Outs. Outs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. All right. First person won an Emmy for Outstanding Variety, Musical or Comedy Special for the Farewell Tour. A Grammy for Best Dance Recording for Believe and an Oscar for the Best Actress in Moonstruck. Oh. Does not yet have a Tony. Wow, I didn't know she's close. Everyone said share.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's share and share alike. That's right. So she's missing Tony. She's just missing a Tony. That could totally happen. That could happen. She could do it. She could do it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 All right. Next one. So this person won a Grammy for. Best Pop Performance by a Duo or a group. That's what Friends are for. The Best Original Song, Can You Fill the Love Tonight from the Lion King and Oscar? And a Tony for Best Original Score for Aida.
Starting point is 00:31:39 What was the first one? It was, that's what Friends are for. Pop Duo. Oh, this is a pop duo? No. It's a person. This person won a Grammy. One a Grammy for writing the song.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Okay, yes. Okay. Everyone had, wait, what is Chris? Tim Rice. but Colin and Karen said Elton John It's Elton John Oh okay
Starting point is 00:32:01 From the I put the Can You Feel the Love Tonight I was going for the Yeah well I mean Tim Rice did Can You Feel Love Tonight and And the lyrics to Aida He's the lyricist This person won an Emmy for supporting actress in downtown abbey An Oscar for Best Actress
Starting point is 00:32:17 And the Prime of Miss Jean Brody And a Tony for Best Actress in a play Lettuce and Lovage Maggie Smith. Good job you guys. Dame. Dame. Maggie Smith. Sorry. And Sir Alton John. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're going to check that attitude. You're right. Okay. How about this? He won an Emmy for lead actor in a mini-series or movie for Angels in America. An Oscar for Best Actor and Sent of a Woman. And a Tony for Best Supporting Actor in a Play, does a Tiger wear a necktie? That's a weird it is.
Starting point is 00:32:56 That is quite a play's name, right? El Pacino, yes, El Pacino. Good job. These are too easy. I'm going to go to a harder one. Does a tiger wear her neck title? I need closure on that anecdote. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:11 All right, he won an Emmy for lead actor in a mini-series or movie for the life and death of Peter Sellers, an Oscar for Best Actor in Shine, and a Tony for Best Lead Actor in a play called Exit Thur, The King. What was the first one again? It was the life and death of Peter Sellers. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Oh, right. Okay. Yes, Chris and Karen say Jeffrey Rush, and Colin says... Just Jeff Goldblum. I just had to write something down. That's right. It wasn't Jeff. I almost give you half points for that.
Starting point is 00:33:48 She won. An Emmy for Best Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series, Sex in the City. a Grammy for Best Spoken Word album and An Inconvenient Truth, and a Tony for Best Actress in a Play, Rabbit Hole. Oh, super forward. Colin and Chris say Sarah Jessica Parker. Karen says Cynthia Nixon. It is Cynthia Nixon.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yes! Yeah, not Lee. Boo-ya! I wouldn't have been able to think of her name. You even know which one she is. The old one. No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:25 She's Miranda. You're such a Miranda, Chris. She also won an Emmy for her guest role on SVU, and I almost put that. But I was like, that's so inside baseball. I'm not going to. Yeah. Okay. Let's do two more.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He won an Emmy for Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series for Boardwalk Empire, a Grammy for Best Music Film, No Direction Home. I didn't even know what a music film was and an Oscar for Best Director of the Departed Oh, really? Everyone says Martin Scorsese Everyone is correct Oh, I spelled it wrong
Starting point is 00:35:11 I want to give Chris, I want to give Chris For Marty You said Marty, yeah We're just, well, you know, we're like this Yeah, I'm glad you pointed that out Yeah, I see you, Chris finally she won outstanding writing and a comedy variety or music special for the paul simon special she won a grammy for the best comedy album for this is a recording and she won
Starting point is 00:35:34 best actress in a play the search for signs of intelligent life in the universe this is almost you got say those again she won an emmy for the paul simon special a grammy for uh best comedy album, this is a recording, and a Tony for the Search for Science of Intelligent Life in the Universe. Oh. I can't read it. Oh, okay. So Colin and Karen say Lily Tomlin.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It's Lily Tomlin. Yeah. She won a bunch of Emmys for her own comedy specials, but I was like, that's pretty... Yeah. She won for the Lily Tomlin show. Right. I wonder who that is. So looking at this list, if I had to...
Starting point is 00:36:19 put my money on someone to complete it first. Yeah. I think I would probably put my, man, that's a tough one. I'll put it on share. I was going to say share or maybe Al Pacino. Since we're already talking about this, who are some Egot winners? I believe, Whoopi Goldberg. Mel Brooks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Audrey Hepburn. Robert Lopez. Yep. Audrey Hepburn. Ah. I think Streisand is one as well. Okay. She's definitely got the Academy Award and the Grammy.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Some of the people on the list for egots, though, are on there because they were awarded, like, oh, you're so cool awards, you know, like lifetime achievement or like a competition. Yeah. So we need the regat with the Razzie in there. Halle Berry, get on it. I know. Oh. The regots. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:37:05 You know what? With this list, we can do some regots. Or the toger. The toger. The toger. The toger. The toger. All right.
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Starting point is 00:37:46 There are really many reasons to listen to our podcast, Big Picture Science. It's kind of a challenge to summarize them all, Molly. Okay, here's a reason to listen to our show, Big Picture Science, because you love to be surprised by science news. We love to be surprised by science news. So, for instance, I learned on our own show that I had been driving around with precious metals in my truck before it was stolen. That was brought up in our show about precious metals
Starting point is 00:38:15 and also rare metals, like most of the things in your catalytic converter, I was surprised to learn that we may begin naming heat waves, like we do hurricanes. You know, prepare yourself for heatwave Lucifer. I don't think I can prepare myself for that. Look, we like surprising our listeners. We like surprising ourselves by reporting new developments in science, and while asking the big picture questions about why they matter and how they will affect our lives today and in the future.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Well, we can't affect lives in the past, right? No, I guess that's a point. So the podcast is called Big Picture Science, and you can hear it wherever you get your podcasts. We are the host. Seth is a scientist. I'm a science journalist, and we talk to people smarter than us. We hope you'll take a listen. I'm at a grade school in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:39:01 We're going to find out if these teachers listen to Good Job Brain. Emperor Quincy Huang ruled China until his death in 210 BC. How did he die? I'm going to go with a B. Oh, it's definitely C. He was crushed. It's mercury poisoning. D.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Ding, ding, dang, dang, dang. No way. Way. Eddie White or penicillic. Which came first? No, penicillin. That's crazy. So you would learn all of these things if you listen to Good Job Brain.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I should. I will. And we're back. And this week, we're time about prizes. Back in the Stone Age of Good Job Brain, in February 2013, we had an episode about the circus, which I think everybody made me remembers. Stoned microphones. Yes, yes, yes, yes. With the little, it was great because we had the little, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:48 the dinosaur running on the treadmill to power the mixer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, it's a living. It's a living. Karen, you talked about during the circus episode, Carnival scams. Yeah. Carnival games and how they are rigged to be very unwinnable,
Starting point is 00:40:05 such as the just, all you have to do is throw this basketball into this hoop. But you can't see from where you're standing that the hoop is actually. oval and the basketball, it will not go in, though. This was February 2013. We talked about this, and we, man, we tried to warn you, planet Earth, but you just didn't listen, and our message did not reach as far and wide as we hoped, because not two months after that episode aired, actually about two months after that episode aired. Tragedy in the form of a very large and slightly racist stuffed banana.
Starting point is 00:40:40 A man from Epsom, New Hampshire. This was interesting to me. I have relations in Epsom, New Hampshire. It's less than 5,000 people. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I know people there. Man from Epsom, New Hampshire, no relation to me. Went to one of those carnivals, one of those traveling carnivals, played a carnival game called Tubbs of fun.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Tubs of fun. It sounds fun. Like a lot of carnival games, yeah. It is deceptively. simple. You get two balls, like softballs, like a, like, like, not baseballs, but soft balls, about that size. And there's an off-the-shelf plastic tub, the sort of thing you buy to put, you know, one of those like an ice tub or something. An ice tub, yeah. And it's, and it's riveted onto a platform that's sort of like 45 degrees. So it's basically pointed at you. What you have to do
Starting point is 00:41:30 is you have to throw the ball in the tub and have it stay in there and not bounce out of the tub back at you. And this guy, Henry Grimmam, he was not able to do it in the first try. And And then he tried a few more times and couldn't do it. And the way that he told the story afterwards was that he got so mad that he couldn't do it and that he had spent so much money trying to just throw the ball into the tub and he keeps bouncing out. He starts betting the operator like, I want to go double or nothing that I can do it this time. And he ends up very, very, I mean, again, we've talked about, I think, had a different episode like loss aversion. Like when you go down in terms of money, when you've blown 100.
Starting point is 00:42:10 You wouldn't get the money back. So apparently the operator was like, yeah, you know, I'll bet you a double or nothing you, you know, can do it. And then he loses more money and loses $300 at the carnival in a very short amount of time playing tubs of fun. And he goes home. Okay. Where he retrieves $2,300 from his house, all his money, and takes it to the carnival and then blows $2,300. on tubs of fun. And he walked away, he won a prize, he won a Rastafarian banana, a gigantic stuffed banana.
Starting point is 00:42:47 What did he win it for? About a consolation prize that I gave him the banana. He was trying to win an Xbox 360 with a connect camera. This was in the year 2013 when that was like worth something. This ends up on the local news that this had happened. And he was basically complaining, you know, there's no way that this game isn't rigged. This game is rigged. There's no way it's not rigged.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Because whenever I threw a practice shot, the ball stayed in the tub. And then whenever it was real money on the line, the ball bounced out. So he believed that there was a... The operator is pressing a button or something. Exactly, that something is going on. So is he right? In a manner speaking, you might actually say that he's wrong because there is no secret mechanism. It's all exactly as it appears to you.
Starting point is 00:43:31 He's just not noticing something. So you go up to the game. And the operator says, all you got to do is talk. the ball in the tub. The operator's standing behind the counter, right? And he's standing sort of to the side of the tub. And he just sort of gently puts the ball in the tub. He's like, oh, I've got to do is put a ball in the tub.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And then he goes, here you go. Take a practice shot on the house. And he hands you the second ball. Then you throw the ball in, and it stays in. And he's like, that's how easy it is, folks. You throw it in. It stays in. You want to do what you're a natural.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Is the ball different? Win a prize. The ball's not different. I think it just dampens the vibration. Sometimes they switch out balls and things like that And yeah, then he takes the balls out And he hands him to him and he goes, here you go And you throw the one ball in, it bounces right out
Starting point is 00:44:15 Go to the second ball in, it bounces right out But you know you just threw it in and it stayed in there So you know that you can do it You're so close so why didn't keep doing it? So Colin, yeah, absolutely When there's a ball in there, it'll stay, it won't vibrate as much So, you know, he puts a ball in there Gently and then he gives you the second ball
Starting point is 00:44:30 And he's here to take a practice shot You throw it in, it stays in because the ball that's already in there, it deadens the whole system. It makes it less bouncy because it absorbs a lot of the vibrations that are going on. So you throw the second ball in there, it stays in. It is
Starting point is 00:44:46 a con game. Don't do tubs of fun. Don't do it. Don't do it. Could you just be like, I'll leave the ball in there. You know what they say is play carnival games where it's you versus other people. So there's always somebody will win. But the tubs of fun thing, that is a con
Starting point is 00:45:02 game. Absolutely. Now, there is sort of a happy ending. The film of the guy walking around with a giant Rastafarian banana went viral, and college humor.com offered to purchase the banana from him. By the way, when this was happening, I saw a lot of news stories referring to it as a life-sized banana. No, it's not a life-sized banana. Like a person.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It's a man-sized banana, but it's not a life-sized banana be a regular small banana. Just a tiny little banana, right, yeah, no. A tiny little dresser. Headlocks, yeah. The college shimmer.com offered you purchase the banana from him for $2,600 plus an Xbox with a connect. Good on them. A happy ending after a fashion. Racist banana gets a forever home, and everybody learns a good lesson.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Karen, you and I were talking before the show about other games that were out there that we didn't cover. And there's one, like literally, if you want to play tubs of fun, I guess go ahead at this point. But really, really, really never play this game. Never play the game called Swinger. or any sort of variations of it. This is where you have a bottle, like a milk bottle, or a bowling pin, probably a bowling pin. So we have a bowling pin. And you have a bowling ball that's on a rope that's attached to a point down the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And the object of this game, and of course the operator will come out and will show you that he can do it very easily, is to swing the ball past the bowling pin and have it come back and knock the bowling pin down on the return. right and he will show you that he can absolutely do it and then when he sets up the pin for you he will put the pin directly underneath right in line with the point at which the ball is is roped onto the ceiling which makes it not only difficult mathematically impossible for you to because if you swing the ball on one side it will come back on the other side of the pin not slightly It will come back the exact same distance on the other side because it will describe a perfect parabola around the game. It's not because that. Yeah. So never, ever, ever, that is a con game. It's really interesting, like the, like the, as you say, like the difference between the, the fair, not fair ones and the unfair, not fair ones.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Right. Like the basketball hoop thing with the oval basketball. You can't do it. Like, you could do it. It's just, it tricks you into thinking that it's easier than it is. All right. I have a quiz for you. And of course, when we talk about prizes, my first thing that comes to mind is I always think like blue ribbon winners, giant vegetables and fruits like at county fairs. And I've been to a couple of a county fairs now. Here. Oh, yeah, that's near us. That's a Marin County. Oh, right. Right, yeah. Ugliest dog.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Here I have a quiz, and it's a write-down quiz, and I've picked a world record breaking large vegetables and fruit. Okay. And I will give you, most of these are you have to guess, the weight, the recorded weight. Closest two gets the point, and I'll tell you in both imperial and metric version. And other. Yeah. And other. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Let's just go with the heaviest cabbage. How much do you think the heaviest cabbage way? This is in Alaska at a county fair there. Average cabbage is about like a head of cabbage is about two pounds. This is a world record. World record cabbage. Heaviest cabbage. It's so big.
Starting point is 00:48:53 All right. Not price is right. So closest to answers up for your guess for biggest cabbage. Dana says 600 pounds. Chris says 55 pounds and Colin says 17 pounds. I feel good about this. Chris is the winner. The largest cabbage weighs 138 pounds.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And that's 62 kilograms. Wow. That's a person made out of leaves. I'm thinking about the giant pumpkin scale. I think the giant pumpkin, I think, is like 2,000 pounds or something. Because cabbage is still a bunch of leaves. That's a life-sized cabbage. Yeah, yeah, life-sized cabbage.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah, speaking of life-sized produce. Yep. Let me tell you, Karen, that's a lot of coleslaw. That is. I actually did some follow-up. That cabbage was shredded down for feeding farm animals and compost. Oh, okay. Because at one point, even the farmer says, when it grows so big, the taste is,
Starting point is 00:49:55 diluted. Ah, okay. It tastes like nothing. Yeah. All right, world's heaviest broccoli. Also, another Alaska, Alaska County Fair winner. Well, I don't have an average broccoli. Wait.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I tried looking for it. Heaviest broccoli. Broccoli is pretty light because it's a lot of florets and air, you know, so the really heavy part is the stock. I feel like it's denser than cabbage. Yeah. Hmm. Only the stock part, though, not the.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Not the flower buds. All right. Heavy as broccoli. Answers up. Dana says 80 pounds. Colin says 34 pounds. Chris says 178 pounds. The answer is 35 pounds.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Colin gets the point. Very close. Wow. 35 pounds that is 15.8 kilograms. And so both of these, cabbage and broccoli is grown in Alaska. And Alaska actually has a kind of not magic, but, but there is a reason why, because they have longer daylight during the summer. So there's 20 hours of sunlight. That helps.
Starting point is 00:51:08 But also, I mean, these are only specific types of vegetables that really thrive. It's not like they're just growing random seeds. Like these seeds are researched and. Pedigrate. They're trying. They're trying. That's a lot of broccoli cheese soup. Are you going to end all of these?
Starting point is 00:51:25 Wait, so you're going to make that good. All right. Stay tuned. World's largest pumpkin. World's largest pumpkin. Your average pumpkin is 18 pounds or about 8 kilograms. Listeners, I hope you guys are also writing in your answers. I want to, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:49 While driving. Well, I prepared both metric too. Oh, yeah, right, right, right, yep. World's largest pumpkin. This one's big. Dana says 2,200 pounds. Yeah, it's, yeah. Colin says 99 pounds, and Chris says 301 pounds.
Starting point is 00:52:10 The answer is 1689 pounds. That's 766 kilograms. I know they had to use like a forklift. Like I've seen them like bringing this thing with equipment. How much is a ton? So it's like almost a ton of pumpkin. That's a big pumpkin pot. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Let's move away from weight and let's guess the longest carrot. The longest carrot, you guys. Oh, man. All right. Longest carrot. Your usual carrot is about 12 inches, 25 centimeters. not baby carrots obviously normal carrots longest carrot
Starting point is 00:52:55 and this and this is interesting because I had to breed up how they grew it hmm that's a little bit of a hand sounds weird yeah I'm imagining like this pipe that runs through the world's longest carrot
Starting point is 00:53:10 answers up here we go Dana says four feet and two inches Colin 60 inches so five feet No, no units on that. I'm covering my basis.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Chris says 7 feet, 2 inches. The answer is 19 feet and 2 inches. So that's you, I think, Chris. I think it's me. Yeah, yeah. 19 feet, 2 inches, 5.8 meters. That's a long carrot. And so how they grow it is it grows on an angle.
Starting point is 00:53:45 It grows on a 45 degree, like, platform, you know, not underground. Oh, yeah. It's out, like, in the greenhouse. I also looked up heaviest carrot. And I didn't include this because the world's heaviest carrot or the world series, like all the other contenders of heaviest carrot, it's not one giant carrot. It looks like it's a bunch of carrots growing into a Franken carrot. You know, so when you, like, pull in dirt, it's not one clean, nice carrot.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It's all gnarly, and it just looks like a bunch of carrots grew fused into each other. Because these roots are poking out. So I was like, that's a tall. All carrot cake. All right, let's do one more. The tallest sweet corn or maize, your usual edible corn plant. Tallest, not the cob. Yeah, the stock.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Starting from the dirt up to the sky. From the stem, yeah, yep, to the very, very top. And your average corn plant is about five feet to 12 feet. That's about one and a half meters to three and a half meters. 12 feet is average. Yeah, five to 12. An elephant's eye is about nine feet. Curbature, the earth.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Carry the seven. All right. All right. Answer is up. Dana has 24 feet. Colin says 13 feet. Chris says 21 feet. The answer is 35 feet.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yes. Which is about almost 11 meters. Wow. That's without fall. to. I don't know how they not fall. So you put 13 feet and she said the cap for average was 12 feet. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah. I guess that's sound out there. I was too busy trying to picture like corn. I was thinking like 10 feet. That is one big taco. All this stuff isn't a fluke. Like all of these large produce things. No, this is intentionally to be comically large.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Well, good job, you guys. Cool. For great. Trip, trip to the county fair. Yeah, we're just going to call it a tie. Dana and Chris. And we got one last chance to win a prize. Well, no prizes here being given out on the show.
Starting point is 00:55:56 But I do have a tale for you guys that evolves gold, Nazis, cross-border intrigue, and no fewer than five Nobel Prize winners. He's pitching a movie. Was this made into a movie before? No, but maybe this tale can be made into a movie. Give calling a ring. Yeah, yeah. I've got the details. So does the internet.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Right. You know. This story all started with a man named Carl von Ossietzky. And Carl von Ossetsky was a German journalist and political writer. He was a pacifist. He was opposed to the Nazi party. And in 1935, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, primarily for his work exposing illegal government activities in the run-up to World War II.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Osietzky had been convicted of espionage and treason in 1931. So you can imagine that this was rather embarrassing to the German government to have their political prisoner being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Now, they couldn't, of course, prevent the committee from awarding him the prize, but they could sure as hell prevent him from leaving the country to go pick it up, to claim any of his money, anything like that. They're like, no, no way, you cannot go claim this prize. And embarrasses even further. So long story short, this was scandalous both in and outside Germany, and in fact, shortly afterward, the German government outright banned German citizens from accepting any future Nobel prizes.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Oh, wow. Yeah, they were not messing around. Now, so if you were a prominent scientist in Germany in the mid to late 1930s, right, and you know, especially if you were Jewish, you could expect to come under an incredible amount of scrutiny from the government as it was. I mean, keep in mind that, you know, a lot of the country's top scientists were pretty outspoken in their, I mean, they had a platform and they were pretty outspoken in their opposition to the Nazi party and the direction the country was going, you know, and indeed, I mean, a lot of the top minds, you know, Albert Einstein, among them, basically just said, see ya, I'm going to maybe come back to Germany someday, but now is not the time. And they left the country altogether. So if you were a prominent physicist or chemist who had decided to stay in Germany for whatever reason, you know, it was a little bit of an awkward position, especially if you had already won a Nobel Prize in the past, you know? I mean, they can't revoke it from you. You've got it, you know, and it's sitting in your possession before the government came to power. But the
Starting point is 00:58:23 medal itself was certainly something that the government could come and basically take from you at any time if they wanted to, you know, they can't take away your title, but they can take away the swag. That's right. They absolutely could. And so, in fact, some high-profile scientists who had won Nobel Prizes, you know, in the 20s, and the run-up to this rise of the new government, decided, all right, you know, let's get them out of the country. Let's put them somewhere safe. And so a couple of scientists gave them, left them in the care of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Very famous institute, named after a very famous scientist, Niels Bohr, who himself was a Nobel Prize winner. Then, I mean, as it is now, it's one of the world's most prestigious, most respected researched institutions, dedicated primarily to physics. And over the years, a lot of scientists had worked there, researched there. seemed like a nice, safe, trusting place to keep your valuable gold medals out of the hands of the Nazis. And that was all well and good until 1940, when if you know your history, you know that is when the German army invaded Denmark. So understandably, there were a lot of people who were getting very nervous. And, you know, one thing to know, this has been important, is that at the time, it was a pretty serious crime to transport gold out of Germany. Are Nobel prices made of gold?
Starting point is 00:59:39 They are made of gold. Yes. Yes. So not just the political act of the Nobel Prize, but just any amount of gold, if you're transferring out of the country, that was a very big deal, especially if it was something so charged. Each Nobel medal has the winner's name on it. So it's not, oh, that's not mine. You know, that's some other Neal Spore. That's not me. So not only the people who had smuggled them out, but the people holding them could be in trouble too now that the Germans had occupied Denmark. So you may not have heard of George to have and I hope I'm pronouncing his name correctly because clearly I had not heard of him before I first heard this story. Is he Danish? He was Hungarian by birth. He was living in Copenhagen working at the Nielspor Institute at this time. And he proved to be a Nobel Prize saving hero. At that time, the Institute was holding on to Nobel Prizes belonging to the medals, belonging to Max von Laos and James Frank, who had both won prizes earlier in the teens and the 20s, and sent them to the Nielspor Institute for Safekeeping. So George de Hevesi decided I'm going to keep these metals safe.
Starting point is 01:00:46 So Karen, yeah, let's talk about the medals here for a minute. They, you know, I mean, when you win the Nobel Prize, you get a nice fancy piece of paper, you get a nice fat check, you get a trip to Stockholm or Oslo, depending on which prize you get, and you get the metal. And up until the 1980s, these metals were pretty weighty. They were nearly pure gold. They were 23-carat gold up through the 80s. They were about seven ounces. These are nice, hefty, nice chunk of gold. These days, they're 18-carat gold-plated in 24-caric gold. Also, they keep better. Yeah, it keeps better. Yeah, it's a little more durable. You're right. When you have, like, a lot of gold, that's malleable. It's true. It's like with the weather. It's true. No, you're right. But in the 30s and 40s, certainly,
Starting point is 01:01:29 they were still virtually solid gold. And so why is gold valuable? I mean, yeah, it's pretty, and it's really malleable, and you can do a lot of stuff with it. But one of the reasons that gold's been so valuable is because it doesn't tarnish, it doesn't rust. It seems like it's almost magical. It doesn't react in the presence of most chemicals. Oh, is that why? Yeah, it's one of the reasons gold's been extremely valuable. It's, you know, I mean, going way back. You can see why alchemists wanted to turn things into this substance. Have you guys ever heard of Aquaregia? No. Aquaregia. Maybe somewhere, yeah, just, yeah. Sounds like a very kind of old-timey alchemist word, and in fact it is.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Aquaregia means royal water, kings water. And aqua regia, scientifically, it's a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid. Now, each of these are pretty powerful acids on their own, but when you mix them together, the powers combine to do something very special
Starting point is 01:02:21 and seemingly magical, aqua regia can dissolve gold. So let's go back to 1940 in Denmark. We're at the Boer Institute. That old cliche. So George De Hevesi and Niels Bohr himself were discussing what are we going to do with these metals in their care? You know, we don't want the Nazis to find them.
Starting point is 01:02:40 We don't want anyone to get in trouble if they do find them. So De Hevesi's writing, I suggested that we should bury the metal. But Boer did not like this idea as the metal might be unearthed. I decided to dissolve it. So yes. This naughty guy decide to. Chemist by training, putting his science powers to work. He got some aqua regia.
Starting point is 01:03:04 He literally put the two gold Nobel medals into the aqua regia, dissolved them into solution as he's writing. He's like, while the invading forces marched in the streets of Copenhagen, I was busy dissolving Laos and also James Frank's medals. So it took some time. It took a little bit of work, but he got them completely dissolved into solution. So he takes the aqua regia gold metal solution, puts it in a very nondes. script jar, puts it up on a shelf in his lab, along with all kinds of other chemicals and nondescript jars, that's
Starting point is 01:03:37 right. Holy cow. And left it there. The Germans, sure enough, did come to the Nielsbore Institute, did come searching the Nielsbore Institute for anything that they thought was valuable or could be politically helpful. Oh my goodness. And had no idea
Starting point is 01:03:53 that these jar containing two melted down gold metals is waiting there just under their noses. After the war was over, all right? Nazi's lost. Germans defeated, Nazis lost. Yay! Yes, right.
Starting point is 01:04:04 He's got to give it back to the winner. De Hevesi goes back to his lab. Once things are open, goes back into his room on the shelf. Jarre is still there. Undisturbed, hasn't been touched since he put it there, gets it back down, uses his vast chemistry knowledge, and he precipitates the gold back out of solution. So he now has a not involved. A ball gold.
Starting point is 01:04:29 It's not, you know, it's actually kind of like a powdery. Yeah, it's like precipitate if you're, you know, remember your high school chemistry, maybe. And he delivers the precipitate of gold back to the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. And sure enough, the Nobel Foundation recycled it, remitted, remitted new Nobel medals for Max von Laugh and James Frank. Oh, my. That is incredible. How awesome is that? That's science power.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I love it. I love it. Possibly because of the good karma, possibly because he was a really smart dude. George Havese also went on to win his very own Nobel Prize. For doing this? For it, not for this. I would give him one for that. Just a few years later.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And I'm sure he kept it in a safe place wherever, whatever he. Oh, my goodness. Isn't that incredible? Man, this story could have gone so many ways. I thought it was, he'd just be like, let's dissolve it. Sorry, winners. Right. We got to save our hides, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Or maybe he goes back to winners and be like, Well, here's your jar of dissolves. This is the best I could do for, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Science. And that is our episode. Thank you guys for joining me.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And thank you guys, listeners, for listening in. Hope you learn a lot of stuff about egotts, razzis, pizza, and dissolving gold. Not melting gold. You can find our show on iTunes, on Stitcher, on SoundCloud, Spotify, and on our website. good job brain.com and we'll see you guys next week. Bye. Bye. Amanda Boucher, best-selling author of The Kingmaker Chronicle, says,
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