Good Job, Brain! - 188: BFFs

Episode Date: August 7, 2016

Celebrate your pals and buds with this trivia-centric episode about BFFs. You might recognize TV BFFs, but can you identify the show just by their character names? Harder than it sounds in Dana's TV BFFs quiz. And let's tour the animal kingdom for some unusual and surprising(ly dark) animal pairings. What's it like being friends with LeBron James, and take Chris' odd quiz inspired by famous BFF Brits, Sirs Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart. From garage to glory, see if you can name the famous bands formed by childhood friends. ALSO: more beaver facts, why exactly should you not swim after eating Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, important, impactful, impeccable imbibers of imagination. Welcome to Good Job, Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 188, and I'm your humble host. Karen, and we are your talkative, terrific team of two times two taking in tacos, tamales, Tostadas, and Takedos. I'm Colin. I'm Dana.

And I'm Chris. We ate Mexican food today. We did, in fact, just all have tacos. Taco Friday. Yeah. Well, it's that time again. It's time for our recurring segment about things that we may or may not have gotten wrong, and we like to call that.

Um, actually... Yes, this is a listener. Male, um, actually, and it opened my eyes. Oh. So this is from Nick. Let me read his email. Wake up, sheeple. Yeah.

In episode 56, your body is a wonderland. Chris shared an old wife's tale. One refers to waiting 30 minutes before swimming after eating. We all heard that, right? It was a long time ago. Yeah, we're going way back in the archive. Yeah, I like it. Okay.

The old, um, actually. 30 minutes before swimming after eating. I've always heard that. So Nick says, although it is true that it won't necessarily cause you to drown, it is encouraged to wait 30 minutes because it's important to allow yourself time to digest your food. We also heard that. That's how a lot of people, all your blood is rushing to your stomach. Like any kind of activity, like running laps as well. Why is this important?

Nick says the reason is if you were to have. happen to vomit immediately after eating there is a greater chance of choking on larger chunks of undigested pieces of food there have been children that have eaten a lot then swam immediately after vomited and choked on large chunks of food so yes the digestion makes sense the follow-up is because you don't want to choke on large people pieces of food okay yeah all right Nick Now we know. This is why I only have smoothies before I go swimming. So, you know, I can just gorge myself on smoothies and there's no choking hazard whatsoever.

Yeah, ice cream. It's just considerate for other people, too. I want to clean my smoothie vomit out of the pool. Yeah, yeah, it's terrible. You just got to. And also have another quick fan tweet Meg's tweeted us. This is really cute. Beaver is our spirit animal.

Yeah. our mascot. And, you know, the facts just keep on coming, man, beavers. Treasure trove of facts. Beaver's have clear eyelids. Wow. Okay. All right.

So they can see while they're swimming underwater. Yes. That is why. So they can see. Classy. Underwater. Nature's goggles. Yes.

Nature. What a, what a man. Beaver's just, what a well-adapted animal. You know what I mean? Like the teeth, the tail, the swimming, the clear eyelids for goggles. Yeah. Yeah, this is... They were going through the evolution stuff real fast.

They're, of all their, yeah, they're Pokemon's. Yeah, they are. Well, thank you guys for writing in. And without further ado, let's jump into our general trivia segment, pup quiz, hot shot. All right, and you guys have your barnyard buzzers, and I have a random trivial pursuit card pick from the box. And this is, it's, oh, man, it's weird. So there's like a whole 1990s Trivial Pursuit Edition

And then they have individual years within that set Right? So we had 1995 before I've only seen 1995 cars I wonder if Is there maybe only like a 199095 edition? We haven't I don't know That box is deep

We should churn and cycle that box Yeah like a big lottery ticket Like a bingo machine A giant thing With all these cars There's some trivia on the bottom that's just going stale. Yeah. It's all right.

This one is 1995. Okay. Okay. In 1995. Pink Wedge. What TV? What version of Windows was there? Sorry.

I actually checked first to see if that question should have done again. What TV comic was deemed politically incorrect for blurting out the F word in front of Bill and Hillary, Clinton, that is, at a media dinner. Oh, Dana. Bill Mar? Yes. It is Bill Mar. Politically correct. It's kind of the hand-thory.

That seems like something he would do. Yellow Wedge. What Pixar release was the first feature film to be entirely computer animated? Colin. Toy Story. Correct. It's always Toy Story. Yeah.

Broke a lot of barriers. Yeah. Brown Wedge. What retailer hoped ads featuring Rosie O'Donnell and Penny Marshall would inspire folks to shop with a buddy. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, who was this? Chris. T.J. Max. Kind of close. Oh, really? Incorrect. Colin. Old Navy?

Incorrect. Was it Payless shoes? Incorrect. Wait, hold on. Is it J.C. Penny? Kmart. Oh, T.M. I remember them in commercials,

but I don't remember what they were in something. Bring friends. Yeah. guys were all so close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Orange Wedge, what was the Boston Chicken chain renamed after branching out into other entrees?

Everybody. Boston Market? Yeah. Huh. I didn't know that. Never, I don't think I've ever been to it prior to the name change prior to. Yeah, I didn't know it was a Boston chicken. Green Wedge.

What trial evidence inspired Alan Dershowitz's lyrical analogy? They tried to shove a slipper on a foot And it didn't fit Oh Everybody The glove in the OJ Simpson trial glove It just says a glove Oh, okay, sure

A glove We all know We all know All right last question Blue Wedge What veteran of the video Terrific Sex was tapped to pen Sex for Dummies

Huh Okay Call it Dr. Ruth Westheimer. Correct. Oh, okay. Didn't she have a crazy background? She was like a ski sniper.

She was trained as a sniper, yes, in the early Israeli defense forces. Yeah, yeah. She never shot anybody. Yeah. But she was trained as a sniper, yeah. That's cool. Well, she's tiny. My old book, a new version of which is coming out, my old book being called Power Up, How Japanese Video Games gave the world of extra life.

The new old book. The new original. The new original. originals. So October 19th, this book is going to be out. And then on October 20th, I have been invited to do a reading and a signing at Green Apple Books here in San Francisco, which is great because I used to live right in that area. I used to go to Granite. It's the coolest, most awesome bookstore. I'm so excited it's going to be like finally out again. Has a brand new cover by Karen Chu, a designer of some renown.

Yes. So October 20th, if you're in San Francisco? Basically never. Have you ever done? Because when the book came out in the first place, I was really very unknown. You know what I mean? They didn't really set up a book signing for it. Yeah.

What about reading of a book? Like public reading. Are you into a funny voice? You're breaking all kinds of barriers. Someone's wanting you do in a Mario voice. No, I'm just having trouble figuring out deciding what it is I'm going to read. Oh, that's true. Yeah.

I'll just read the copyright notice and release. Licensed X-CV. And then, like, close the book very, like, quiet. You'd be like, thank you. Thank you. And then we. Yeah. What is this?

ISBN number? Right. May not be reproduced in whole or in part without the express written consent. Now, this is important. Take a note. And then we'll clap. We're like, wow. Incredible.

Yes. Performance art. Well, I'll be there. I'll try to be there. Oh, thanks. It's a little too far. You just, you just, you just, dialed back your, uh, you're, uh, you're definitely, I'll be there.

I'll make an effort, yeah. You know, I'll put it on the calendar. It gets more complicated when you get older. I know. I'm not even sure I can make it. I mean, I don't know my schedule. If I won't be there. No, it's going to be fun.

So local good job, brave fans, you know, catch a Chris's dramatic book reading may or may not be in a Mario voice on October 20th. All right. Well, let's let's get, let's get the show started. Colin All right So What are we talking about?

Well, I'm going to start with a little bit of a story here So I think it's been long enough now We can talk about it I've had enough emotional space to deal with it It's been a little over a month Our hometown, Golden State Warriors Lost the NBA Finals To the Cleveland Cavaliers

Oh Colin, why are you spoiling it? He had it on TiVo He was going to get around to watch Someday I was going to see I've been hearing a lot about this LeBron kid So yes, you know, it was an exciting finals. I do wish the Warriors had won. But hats off to the Cavs.

They played great. They have a guy you may have heard of on the team of some renown. His name is LeBron. Oh, he was in train wreck. Yeah, the guy in train wreck. So in this finals, a player named James set a record for making a sixth straight NBA finals. Or I should say, shared a record in the modern era. No other player in the modern era.

era has made six consecutive NBA finals in a row. All right. And I don't mean LeBron James. I'm talking about James Jones. James Jones has been a teammate on the Cleveland Cavaliers for the last two years when they made the NBA finals. And he was a teammate of LeBron James on the Miami Heat the four years prior to that when they made the NBA finals. So these two players, just LeBron James and James Jones, who is safe to say not a household name, even among good NBA fans, they made this modern record together, like since the Bill Russell era. The only player is to make six straight NBA finals. And so, you know, his name came up a lot during the finals as kind of like, oh, it's this little footnote to this quirk. Like everyone's giving LeBron all this credit

like, LeBron, man. He's amazing. Six straight NBA finals. And it's like, oh, you know, James Jones also did it too. It's not really just a coincidence, when LeBron James met James Jones when they were playing for the Heat, he fell in love with him as a player, just said, this is my guy. This guy, this is a quote from LeBron James. He's the greatest teammate I've ever had. Okay. So when LeBron left the Miami Heat to go to Cleveland Cavaliers, he said, I want you.

Come join me. He said to management. He's like, look, I'm coming back. You got to make this happen. This is my guy. We're going to find a spot on the team. for him and sure enough they did and so it's this great case of if you're a truly great transcendent player like lebron james and you identify somebody who's you know your friend or your buddy or a really

solid teammate you can kind of make that happen you know what i mean you can say to management like this guy's coming with me and sure enough you know what like all all praise to james jones for being a great teammate and hitting the shot when he's open and being the kind of guy that lebron james wants to bring along with him so so then i was thinking more than i was thinking more about just this idea of like the sort of the friend in sports how you can really be a kingmaker here it's like the sport BFF and this is not the only case of that for sure there are a lot of case of superstars over the years in all the pro sports who have you know one teammate who they just love to practice with or always has their back in the locker room or you know

kind of make sure that no one's talking trash about them or maybe is their enforcer on the court you know and they don't always get the glory but they will ride along for the rings and the trophies as the other player goes. So I thought the idea of best friends and BFF and all that comes with it might be a good topic for our show. So this week BFFs forever.

Forever. See you next summer. Hags. What's what you do if I sang out of tune? Would you stand up and woke out on me? Let me your ears.

So I'll sing you a song I will try not to sing how to keep me yet Oh, baby, I'll give it my love. I'll see what I'm going to get a high. So I have a fun little quiz for you guys. I hope it's fun. I know. We're all fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed. We'll give it a go. We'll see what happens. The worst quiz for you guys. I mean, it's about TV best friends. People on TV shows. shows that we've probably all watched, who had best friends. And I'm going to tell you their first names.

Fictional. Fictional TV shows. Characters. Yes, not reality shows. Gotcha. Okay. TV shows. Fictional characters from TV, only, not movies.

They are best friends on the show. I want you guys to tell me what show they came from. All right. Buzz in. I bet we'll get through this real quick. All right. Let's see. All right.

Just kicking it off. Mary and Rhoda. Colin. Mary Tyler Moore Show. Mary Tyler Moore Show. How about Meredith and Christina? It's so weird when it's first name. Is that a Grey's Anatomy?

Gray's Anatomy. Yes. Meredith, yes. J.D. and Turk. Chris. Scrubs. Scrubs. What about Nick and Schmidt?

Nick? Karen. New girl. Oh, of course. Yeah. Oh, Nick and Schmitty. Yeah, of course. Like, that was just a unique name.

Yep, yeah, okay. DJ and Kimmy. We'll do Colin. I think Chris had it first, but I will gladly say full house. Full House. No, also Fuller House. Oh, you're right. Two acceptable answers.

Karen and Jack. Karen and Jack. Oh, that is Will and Grace. Will and Grace. Oh. Yeah. How about Leslie and Ann? Leslie and Anne

Yeah Wow it's so hard with Just first thing Colin Oh that's Parks and Recreation Maybe it's like When you tap out a song And you're like

Oh I tell This is the happy birthday song And nobody's everybody's just like This is just no Right right Right Right yeah How about Patsy and Edina

Oh Oh I'll go to Karen Absolutely fabulous Yes Oh yeah And the new movie's coming out Yeah

One last one. Max and Caroline. Max. This show is about these two people. Oh, so it must be their last names. Caroline in the city. Oh, that's pretty good. I wish.

It's not. That's really good. Max and Carol. The show is about them. Yeah. The title after them? But it's only like a two broke girls. Two broke girls.

Oh, my job. Yeah. Because it's a girl. I was like, I wonder if Max is a girl. or a guy. Solved it. Nice. Woo.

Best friends. Colin, when you said BFFs, I was, immediately there was one photograph that popped into my head. And I knew that I had to, I wanted to do something about the greatest pair of best friends forever of our time. Oh, yeah. Which would be, of course.

You're keeping me on my toes. It's. serves Patrick Stewart and Ian McHillard. We all know our absolute best buddies and in fact love to show it on social

media because they will go to Coney Island and play ski ball together. They're awesome. And they cook dinner for each other. It is magical. And so, I don't know

if they're both Order of the British Empire, are they? I know Sir Patrick's... Oh, I know Sir Ian McKellon. Yeah, yeah, they are. So Knights and Pals, I thought, oh, great, I should do something about the movies that, like, they have done together. Wasn't there only just two? Yeah, so I scrapped that idea because it literally would have been just an X-Men.

Yeah, and so I got rid of that idea, and then I started thinking about, well, what is the, one of the, the, one of the, the, the, the common thread that kind of connects these two guys. And one of those threads, you know what? It's the Royal Shakespeare Company. That's what immediately popped into my head. The Royal Shakespeare Company being, and I'll give you the very brief rundown of this, its history goes back to 1879 and the performers in the theaters that were putting on, Shakespeare's plays in the theaters that are in Stratford-upon-Avon,

from which Shakespeare hailed. And so they formalized it in around the 60s as this one, like, company of players that would do the absolute, they are the pinnacle of Shakespeare. Right. Like, you go to see the Royal Shakespeare Company in London. That is the best Shakespeare. Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen both had performed with the Royal Shakespeare Company. So that's how they know each other? I don't know if that's how they know each other, but, I mean, it is sort of a tight-knit, you know, group of people, right?

So, with all that talent, many of the Royal Shakespeare Company players would go on to then be in Hollywood films, television shows, people that you know. So this is a quiz about that group of people who have been in the Royal Shakespeare Company. And I assume it's super hard to get into. Oh, yeah. They're like, you've got to be the best of the best. Yeah, right, right, right. So I will tell you a little fact about an actor or an actress who played what role they played in the role. Royal Shakespeare Company production.

Maybe give you another couple little clues about who they are, and you have to guess what actor-actress I'm talking about. You all have your paper, you all have your pens. This is a write-down quiz. So it's everybody against everybody in a battle to the death. So with the Royal Shakespeare Company, he played Shylock in the

Merchant of Venice, and his other roles on film have included Enrico Salvatore Ratso Rizzo, Ted Kramer, and Raymond Babbitt. Do you guys all know? I know.

I know from one of the rules. Only one of the rules. That's, you know, I gave you three chances. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think I know. Now I'm, now I'm sickening. Well, I was like, oh.

I'm 100%. Rizzo, as in from Greece, so it's Stocker Channing. You know, like, I was like, oh, look, that's not in RICO. Yeah. All right. All right. Answers up. Karen says Tom Wilkinson.

Colin says Dustin Hoffman and Dana has drawn a bear. No. And then below the bear. is Dustin Hoffman. Yes, it's Dustin Hoffman. Those were his roles from Midnight Cowboy, Kramer versus Kramer, and Rayman.

Yes. Kramer versus Kramer is how I got it. Yeah, yeah. I put it to the middle. So they're not all British. I didn't want to stick it at the end. A lot of these people are British. Okay, here we go.

This actor, director, and many other things, is very closely associated with making film versions of Shakespeare plays. He has directed five of them. And in 2015, he directed a live-action Cinderella for Disney. What's up now? I don't know. I'm guessing that we all got it. I'm guessing.

All right, let's see the answers up. Dana says Kenneth Branagh. Colin, Kenneth Branagh. Karen, Kenneth Branagh. I guess it is Kenneth Branagh. What's up, Karen? Yeah, what's up, Karen. With the Royal Shakespeare Company, like, four times, five times, many, many times.

Yeah. Very closely associated in the 1990s with being the. epitome of the Yes. I definitely stage. Yeah. He was

Professor Gilderoy Lockhart. Also true. Also true. And you know, Karen, you mentioned that and there will be

some Harry Potter actors coming up in this quiz, as I might imagine. But before we get there, she played with the RSC. She played Cordelia in King Lear. Roles on television,

after that include Dr. Elizabeth Corday in ER and River Song in Dr. Oh, what's her name? What is her name? What is her name?

She was in something. I just listened to a book where she was the narrator. And I was like, oh, it's River Song. Who is it? This is going to be sad. I don't know. I'm not going to retrieve this. I don't know.

I was going to give you a hint, but then it looks like Colin got it. I know. I know. I know the first name. I know the first name. I don't know the last. Okay. What's the hint?

I'm not writing a joke necessarily. Oh, you want the hint? Does everybody want the hint? Sure. She was in King Lear, and her name has either King or Lear somewhere in it. Still, so no, it's okay. Time is up. Oh, my goodness.

Karen has Alex and then a blank, and then it says King underneath it. Colin has Christine, something when it's crossed out, says Kingston. If you put it all together, you get Alex Kingston, and you know what? You each get half a point because I can do that. She also played Cordelia in King Lear, and then she played Viola in Twelfth Night. And most recently, you might know her as Lady Olena Tyrell on Game of Thrones. Yo, what is her name? I don't know her name.

Oh, my God. I need more caffeine, I think. You know, I can't. Like, even if the credit... No. I was obsessed with Game of Thrones recaps, and people were always like, oh, yes, queen to this lady. Like, what is her name? What is her name?

You have the chance to write down something if you want. No hints this time. All right. Papers up. Karen has written the letter D. Colin has written Diana Rigg. Yes, that's her name. And that is her name.

And Dana has written the question. Queen. Yes, Colin gets a point for Diana Rigg. Yes. Shakespearean actress. All right. She's so good. Oh, she's great.

She's great. Another person who played the character Shylock in 1960 on stage, and two years later would go on to play the title role in 1962's Lawrence of Arabia. My favorite. Oh, yeah. Okay, so throwing Karen one here is what this apparently is. Do you know why he's my favorite? I don't know.

No. Colin says Peter O'Toole. Karen says Peter O'Toole. Dana put Lawrence Olivier. No, it's Peter O'Toole. Why is he your favorite? Because he was in King Ralph when I was a kid. And I was like, that guy rocks.

Yes, Peter O'Toole. My dad was like, you know, he was in a really big movie called Lawrence of Rabe. I was like, I don't care, he's in Queen Ralph. So here's some Peter O'Toole. Here's some Peter O trivia. He was nominated eight times for Best Actor in a Leading Role, but he never won. They gave him a Lifetime Achievement Award, but he never won a competitive Oscar. Wow.

And yes, that is eight, it was eight times. That's painful. That is the most times somebody has been nominated for Best Actor in a Leading Role and not one. Ouch. Yeah. That's good trivia. I gave him a lifetime achievement award. Yeah.

Unfortunately, you tend to get it within a few. few years of your death, generally, yeah. So here's some topical current events. This one-time Royal Shakespeare Company actor will star in, very soon later this year. He will star in the upcoming remake of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, playing the character, The Criminologist. Oh, right. This one-time Royal Shakespeare Company actor will star in the upcoming remake of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, playing the character of The Criminologist. What else was he in?

I know who's playing Rocky Horror. I know he's playing Janet, I think. Yeah. Who is playing the any other role of the criminologist. Yeah, the guy in the wheelchair. The guy in the wheel. No, no, no, no, no. No, it's the guy who's relating the events of the film. Yeah.

He's sitting behind the, yeah, he's not in a wheelchair. No. Dr. Scott is in a wheelchair. When was this person active in the Royal Shakespeare Company? Did you tell us that? No. Okay. I did not tell you that.

I did not tell you that. Have you looked at the IMDB page? I mean, the person in question just turned 70 years old. So, I mean, I don't know if that's going to help you or what, but he's 70. He's playing the criminologist. Dana is writing something down. Maybe that hint helped her out. Somebody who's 70.

Yeah, yes. He is 70 years old as of a couple of months ago. Karen wrote something down. Colin wrote something down. Answers up. Dana says Donald Trump. Colin guesses that maybe this. This is the Ian McKellon question.

It's Ian McKellon. Karen writes Tim Curry. Karen is the trick question. Oh, that is a trick. Tim Curry will be playing the real of the criminologist in the upcoming Rock of Horo. Once you said the age, I was like, who would be in this movie that could be in the first movie? Right. There you go.

I thought he was sick. I'm not to fan. So he had a stroke a few years ago when he's in a wheelchair, but he's, he's, You know, good enough to play the criminologist. That's a good one. That's a good one. I love Tim Curry. Oh, who doesn't love Tim Curry?

He, it's a ridiculous question. He won a Tony for his performance of Hamlet in 1995. Now, it's not Royal Shakespeare Company. And then later he came to Broadway. And he also played possibly Hamlet, won a Tony. But he is also the only actor to have played both the roles of Lord Voldemort and Jesus Christ. Wow. Real yin and yang of this actor.

The only person. Yes, the only person to ever play both. Karen says Ray Fines. Colin says Ray Fines. Dan says Ray Fines. Yes, indeed. Not the only actor to have ever played Lord Voldemort. That's true.

I actually made up that joke. Somebody's now going to write in and say, I'm actually. Whoever the guy was in the suit, you know, for like Harry Potter 2 or whatever, also played Jesus in his eighth grade, you know, Sunday school. No, Ray finds with the voice of Jesus in an animated motion picture spectacular about Jesus. He, this person, this next person, played Romeo in 1986 for the Royal Shakespeare Company, which is appropriate, considering his reputation for dying tragically and nearly everything he stars in. Whoa Wait, dying tragically

Not in real life Not in real life Still alive in real life So many of his characters Got it. He's renowned for this Oh my god It was a meme

It was a meme You know a couple years ago But he played Romeo in 1986 Huh He was a lot younger then I have a guess I have a guess I have a guess

There is I'm trying to run and see if the ages work. There's a reputation of always dying. I think the ages could work. Yeah? If I have the age right. All right.

I don't know. Draw another bear. Half point. Oh, okay. Okay. Give me a moment. Okay. Chris is really making Dana work for this bear.

I have to say, yeah. I'll dance for these points that count for it. Oh, that's good. That is better than the first one. Okay. Dana has bear. That's half point. Colin says Sean Bean.

Karen says Sean Bean. It is yes, indeed. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Wow, so how old was that in the 86? Probably youngish. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Romeo.

This distinctive-looking character actor was in Mary Wives of Windsor, Royal Shakespeare Company, and also played Peter Pedigrew in the Harry Potter films. Wow, what is his name? He was also an enchanted. Yes. Yes. Playing pretty much the same character. Yeah, basically.

Man, I don't know his name. No. It's not even... The Harry Potter clue does not help me and the slightest. Well, it's basically just who played Peter Pettyville in the Harry Potter. Distinctive looking, though. I'm trying to latch onto that. He's like, you know what?

If they were to make, like, remake Batman Returns, he would be the new penguin. Huh, okay. He's a very, like, bird-ratty fate, like... Okay. Pronounced facial feature. It's... Again, I'm sure some people at home get this, and they're just saying, ha-ha-ha, got I'm just in the naming British people section of the quiz now.

You never know. You never know. Colin says Pete Posslethwaite. No. Oh, I love the name. Karen, thematically appropriately enough, has drawn a rat and gets half a point. And Dana says Rattail McKenzie and draws a picture of what he looks like in proximate. Actually, he's pretty good.

That's not bad. That's not bad. This actor's name is Timothy Spall. Timothy Spall is his name. commit that one to memory. And here is one final head scratcher brain stumper of a question

maybe unless you know this piece of trivia. This guy played Richard the second. Barty Crouch and Doctor Who? It's a free point for everybody. Junior. Oh, excuse. Well, you know, he's also

Barty Crouch, yes, sorry. Barty Crouch Jr. and Dr. Who? If it was just Barty Crouch, I'd be like, like, no. I have my answer, by the way. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say... Let's put these illustrations.

It's like a show and tell now. Dana Drew, I think that's Doug, from the Nickelodeon show, Doug. But she also wrote David Tennant. Karen wrote David Tennant and drew a Tartis. Colin wrote Matt Smith. Oh, the next one. That's the next one. It was David Tennant.

Okay. All right. If you look at pictures of him playing Richard the second, the second, he looks like David Tennant with a really bad wig on. It's kind of for you. I've met most of them, yeah, ended up in Harry Potter

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Smooth puzzles, smart trivia. Good job, brain. BFFs, because I love animals, and, you know, there are a lot of viral videos of, like, weird animals being friends and stuff. I was hoping this is the direction that you went out. I really was. And, and, like, friendship in animals is just, it's so, it's so cute. And I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to read more about, like, do they understand friendship? Yeah.

And then I fell into a research hole about symbiotic. relationships with animals, right? These are animal relationships where it's like two different types of animals and they help out each other. And we hear a lot of like examples of them. And so I've heard two examples of animal BFF, so it seems, in symbiotic relationships. So these are two and they're very similar for a special reason. So I'm going to introduce you to the Japanese oak blue butterfly in Japan. They're native to Japan. And so when they're the fatty caterpillars, when they're born, they wrap themselves inside leaves of oak trees to protect themselves because they're kind of like, you know,

vulnerable. Fat caterpillars are always, they can't, they have no defense me. Yeah, what do they do? I'm not even a bird and they look tasty to me. Yeah. It's like nature's sausages. Nature's a cocktail wean. Scientists notice that like to, in order to protect themselves against predators like spiders, wasp, bird, there is a relationship with ants, with this type of ants. And these ants would hang out with the caterpillar because the caterpillar

will secrete sugar droplets called, and they're called dew patches, either on them or on the leaf they're on, and the ants would come, and, you know, they get fed on the dew patches, and in a way, kind of protect, guard the caterpillar, the Japanese oak blue caterpillar.

And another example, example, we see a lot, we see a lot, especially like in like Lion King or like the, the, when you ever think of like a safari scene, you know, we see all these big mammals and they have birds on them. Yeah. So there's egrets. They're the white birds that like hang out with the rhinoceros. There's another type of bird and you've seen these before. They're called oxpeckers. Ox peckers.

Well, you know, and named for because they peck on oxes. As advertised. Yes. And they're, they're dark gray. And then they have like orangey eyes. and beaks, and they hang out with a lot of, like, large animals, not just oxes. And so in these relationships, the bird will pick out larva and worm and parasites on the big animal, and also, you know, they get to hang out on the big animal and kind of, you know,

it's big, right? That's kind of the protection. It's like being in an SUV. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is on a big Jeep wrangler. Yeah. So those are two examples of very cute animal BFFs. However, there's a twist in this story.

Okay. Why these two are very similar. Because these two cases, for the longest time, scientists deemed them as mutually symbiotic relationships, right? They benefit each other. Okay. Took a turn. Turns out these relations are not. Which one's the selfish jerk in the scenario?

So. Should we try to guess? Yeah, guess. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, why don't you guys spitball? Like how, you know, this is actually not really symbiotic. I'm going to say that the ants don't actually protect the caterpillar. They just piece out.

They just, yeah, they're just like, okay, thanks for the food to see it. If they get hungry, they eat it. But what are they going to do? A bird comes by when the ant is going to fight him off with his ant. Yeah, I'm a client to agree with that. I mean, they might protect them from other ants, maybe, but, yeah. And butterflies aren't usually carnivorous. They wouldn't eat ants or anything.

Yeah, what about the oxpecker, though? Like, that does seem pretty straightforward. word, like, the bird's getting food, the ox is getting parasites off his back. Like, maybe... Sometimes they, like, peck so hard, it starts eating the oxen. Oh, like, it actually does... Or maybe, or maybe it's, like, the parasites wouldn't be there if the bird wasn't there or something.

Oh, the birds bring you in, but, like, farming them on the ox. Right, right. This is dark. What is it? It's dark. The real life is darker. All right, all right. Okay, let's go back to our first scenario, the caterpillar and the ants.

for the long time, until last summer. Oh. Until last summer, scientists have agreed, yes, this is, you know, they're BFFs. You know, this is, this is proven. Until one scientist in his team in Japan was like, you know, you know, like, yeah, how much benefit does this bring to both parties? What Dr. Hojo noticed was that the ants around the caterpillar, they don't seem like they're going back to their nests. And it does seem like they're going anywhere. And then if they do go anywhere, the ones that come back are the same individual ants.

Oh, that's drugging them. Yes. So the dew patches, the sugary droplets that they're eating, it has sugar in it but has a whole bunch of other things in it that dopes the ants. No. And it doesn't stop there. So the ants, they just hang out there. They're just like, oh, this is a store. We're hanging.

We're hooked on this stuff. The candy man. The can't, the can't, yeah, yeah. First Dupatch is free. So the caterpillars, you know, some of the cannipollars are, they have, like, tentacles or they have, like, weird protruding things and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, they actually had a control experiment.

They have a bunch of ants to hang out and eat the, the dew droplets, and they have ants that don't. Right. And then they notice that every time. They put little tiny tags on your teeth. It's so cute. Yeah. The caterpillar will sometimes flip its tentacle as a, like, as a, a thing that it does. does, when that happens, the doped up ants go nuts.

They go nuts. They get super aggressive, going nuts. And so not only are they doped up and hooked on the sugar water, something about the dew droplets have some sort of dopamine, menacing dopamine effect on them. So when the cat put goes, it's go time and switches on a chemical switch. It turns on the ants into super aggressive, like, beings. So if there is maybe a big wasp that's like, you know, kind of in the vicinity, Cattle Pillar puts off the switch, the ants just go on attack mode.

Like, just look scary. They're like remote control mercenaries. Yes. And then they did this experiment with ants that never ate the dew droplets and no effect. Wow. No effect. It was not until recently that they're like, turns out they're not friends at all. One's drugging the other.

Just making a slave warrior. Yeah. But not even zombie because they're not dead. Right, right, right. They're still alive. Wow. Okay. Now let's go back to our second scenario.

The oxpecker and the ox. Dana's not far for the longest time. Like EGrets, those are actually BFFs. Like they actually do, you know, have a... That's an honorable bird. Yeah, it's all. There's debate. There is debate.

They're like, is this actually like mutual symbiotic relationship? So the evidence suggests that the. oxpeckers are the parasites because they, sure, they eat, you know, the worms or the little bugs on big animals, but they notice that they intentionally leave marks. They would peck into the flesh to allow more bugs to grow from their food. They're farming on it. They're farming. It's their farmland on time. Wow. And that, you know, a lot of scientists, they research that, like the overall number of parasites on the animal actually doesn't really decrease that much with their help because they're actually farming more parasites and there's some animals,

some bigger animals who catch on. And so when oxpecker comes, they're trying to shoot them away. Elephants, elephants try to like, eh, get away from me. That is pretty dark. Yeah, man, it's just kind of just like, if you're an ox, that's kind of depressing. I mean, these are cases, these two examples were the longest time. People are like, yes, oh, wow, they're so great. They're friends.

They're helping each other. No. Birds, man. Birds, man. The more we learn about them, the worst they sound. Oh, yeah, a side story. This is not a BFF, but I found a bird who's, I forgot the name, but the chick looks like the Newport Channel looks like a crazy caterpillar, and it starts to learn how to move like a

caterpillar. And it's like, it's to signal predators that I'm a poisonous, scary caterpillar. Don't eat me. I'm a vulnerable chick, actually. Wow. Oh. It's like spiky and has like orange, you know, weird, like, and it starts wriggling around. Really weird.

Nature is weird. Nature is amazing. Crafty. That feels like a, that the bird with the ox, the ox pecker, that feels like a horror thing, like a vampire almost. Yeah. Well, yeah. So some of those oxpeckers actually eat the flesh.

I bet. Yeah. I bet they do. They're like, oh, it just so happens. The piracized on flesh. They got a little more. Yeah. Oh, they took some of your flesh off accidentally.

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a happy one it's a little bit lighter with markedly less flesh eating significantly less flesh eating in my quiz. So I have a quiz for you about bands, musical bands, musical acts, because, you know, as you guys know, when you research band histories, many, many, many bands started off as friends, childhood friends. Oh, yeah. So this is a common theme. I'm going to give you guys some hints and questions about very well-known recording artists, bands, and who all started off as childhood friends, or at least in their teenage years. years. And you guys tell me who the band is. So these will be bands from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, even bands still recording today, Karen, bands that you may have actually heard of. So get your buzzers ready. I'll give you some hints. I just like drawing.

We started drawing. I won't stop you from drawing pictures if you want, Dana, but this is a buzzer-oriented quiz. Well, I get points for bears. I can't rule it out. Yeah, I'm easily swayed. The members of this World Famous Rock Band met while they were attending Abingdon School in England in the mid-1980s. Before changing their name at the urging of their record label, they were known as on a Friday, reference to their typical practice day. Oh. Huh. So now remember. So now remember, yeah, because these are bands that met when they were younger, you know, this may be a few years before they became world famous.

One of the best-selling recording artists of the 90s and the 2000s. Wow. They changed their name to a song by the Talking Heads. Any guesses? No. Well, it seems like it's British. A selling British band. Yeah, let's work together.

Best-selling artists of 90s and 2000s. Yeah, co-play. They were. Colplay? No, not Colplay. They were named the number two band of the 90s by Rolling Stone Readers. Oh. Carbache.

Chris. Oasis? Not Oasis, but you're getting a lot closer. Karen? Radiohead. Radiohead. Oh, I don't know anything about radio head. Well, apparently not.

Well, now you do. You know, they were called on a Friday. Yes. So I thought the band was going to be like Monday, you know, like another day. And so I was like trying to think I was like, oh, well. Ah, no, it was just one of those cases where the record label is like, this name is really confusing, really hard to say. It's not easily marketable. Yes, the band on a Friday.

We'll be there on Wednesday. Yes, right. It's like how, you know, when we go at public quiz, there's a team sometimes that shows up and they're called and in second place. Right. Right. This is the most successful vocal group in the United States with 12 number one hits on the Billboard Hot 100. They are no longer recording. The founding members were all friends and classmates living in the Brewster Douglas housing projects in Detroit, Michigan.

Dana. The Supreme? It is the Supremes. Yes, that's right. Florence Ballard, Mary Wilson, Betty McGlown, and of course, Diana Ross. Yeah, they all met through common friends together and just one of these things like, hey, we should start singing together. And Motown is like, yes, you should start singing it together. Yeah, far and away, the biggest hit for Motown.

How many 12? 12, 12 number one Billboard Hot 100 hits. And no, nothing has taken it down, taking that record down. Not in terms of a vocal group. Wow. Yeah, pretty amazing, pretty amazing. This six-time Grammy Award-winning musical duo met in secondary school in 1987. They took their current name.

from a negative review of one of their only rock and roll performances, soon after which they changed musical styles. Oh, okay. So start it out rock and roll. They're a duo. They're a duo. And when were they active? They are still active.

Okay. Sorry, when did they start being active? They started being active in the 90s. Did you say they were British? I did not say that. You said secondary school. Secondary school. That seems very British.

Dana. Daft punk? Daft punk. Oh my God. Correct. Dana's got it. French. Yes.

They have school in France as well. But like we don't call us secondary. You don't know who I mean like that. I was trying to give you guys a little European nod to there. I was like what sounds like an offensive review, like a bad review. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yes.

Yes. I have heard that made of trivia. Dana sunk her teeth into all the clues I was giving her there. Yes, absolutely right. Yeah, they were in a band called Darling, kind of doing rock style stuff, and they got a negative review that called their performance a daft, punky thrash. And they decided to latch onto that. Man, look at them now. Yes, look at them all the way from Paris.

I wonder how that reviewer feels. Right. You know, probably fine, because now he can claim that he was, yeah, he coined the turd. Yeah, it's the ultimate hipster move. This garage rock duo from Akron, Ohio, have been friends. since they were eight and nine years old. They recorded their debut album in 2002, reportedly using cheap microphones they bought on eBay to save money wherever possible.

I think Karen first. White stripes. No. Black keys? It is the black keys. Dana has it. Yeah. Yeah.

My colors. Yeah. Colors. Ninety-two? debut album in 2002. Oh, 2000. This New York-based trio founded by two neighborhood friends was one of the top selling acts of the 1990s and had a later career bump in just the last few years on reality TV programs. I can give you a hint.

Is it because their song was used or they're on the reality? They were actually on the reality TV programs featured. I believe the show was eventually canceled. Karen. Salt and Peppa. No. And Spinderella. No.

That was a good yes. Trio. The trio consisted of, Chris. I do. Coco, Lili, and Tage. Oh. Oh. What?

Ceres with Voices. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. SWV. Sisters with Voices. I'm sorry.

13-year-old Dana. They had their own show. I think it's on BT. Really? I didn't know they had their show. It's a reality show. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They were my favorite. Sisters with voices. Sisters with voices. I torture my fiancé in the car singing this. What were some of their songs? Don't let go. Oh, okay.

I get, no, I'm not going to do it. It's bad. It's bad. Oh, okay. He, like, unrolls the window. He, like, starts messing with the locks when I do it. No, because it's the high pitch. It's like in the nasal, in the nose area.

This all-girl band emerged from the post. post-punk scene in the late 1970s, and though they were pretty successful in their native UK, they didn't have a U.S. top 10 hit until their biggest U.S. hit appeared on the soundtrack for the movie The Karate Kid. Whoa. All right. Rewind that. This all-girl band emerged in the late 1970s.

Successful in the native UK, their first U.S. top 10 hit, and by far their biggest U.S. hit, uh was on the soundtrack for the karate kid chris we want to take a guess here heart not heart not heart dana the go-go's not the go-goes both both american yes for british band here chris again banana ramma it is banana they're the same to me the go-go's i was just about to give you the hint there are five a's in their name

yeah yeah yeah but you got it without the hint yeah and then uh they formed uh Shakespeare sisters, the two of them from Banana Ramas formed a... I got to write it down. Karen Woodward and Sarah Dellen from the band had been friends since I guess they were four years old. Wow. Yeah, going way back. Yep.

All right. Last one. This hard rock and band was founded by two Dutch immigrant brothers in the 1970s. Dutch. In the 1970s. Immigrants where? To here. To the U.S.

I'll give you that. And an early version of the band performed out the name Genesis, before finding it out it had already been taken. I was like, Phil Collins. Two Dutch immigrant brothers. Yes, hard rock and band. Hard rocking band. Hard rock.

So it's two guys who are brothers. Their last one must be like vander something, maybe. You might be right. Chris. Van Halen. It is Van Halen. Thanks, Karen. Thanks for me a sis

I was your James Whatever to your LeBron James You were the James Jones That's right We're a team Yes Eddie and Alex Van Halen They were immigrants Well the family

Yep yep So they were born in Edward Van Halen was born in Nymegan And Alex was born in Amsterdam The family The family moved here in the early 60s Yeah to Southern California That's awesome

And they picked up some other members along the way. They've had a kind of a rotating cast of characters over the years. Now I got to go, you know, I love finding videos of people who you think are like, you know, who are American or racer, but like they speak another language. I wonder if they speak Dutch. That'd be so crazy. I got YouTube that.

I bet they do speak a little Dutch. I bet they do. Yeah. So they were Genesis and then they changed the name to mammoth. And then they changed the name to. Mammoth. That's so metal too. It's so hard rocks.

Yeah. Then finally to Van Halen. It seems so. you know like what else could they be now but yeah right all right good job guys good job and that is our show about BFFs thank you guys for joining me and thank you guys listeners for listening in hope you learned a lot of stuff about music about TV BFFs about the royal Shakespeare company and about fake BFFs in the animal kingdom you can find our show on iTunes Stitcher SoundCloud, Spotify, and on our website, goodjobbrain.com.

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